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- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [03:58] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 966851 filed by philringnalda@gmail.com.
- # [03:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966851 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent a11y/accessible/tests/mochitest/jsat/test_traversal.html | Test timed out
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- # Session Start: Mon Feb 03 09:11:00 2014
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [09:11] * Topic is 'build the web for everyone | http://is.gd/yqDl6M'
- # [09:11] * Set by davidb on Mon Jan 06 15:34:52
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- # [10:47] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 966910 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
- # [10:47] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 966910 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
- # [10:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966910 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, List Items for the BugZilla autocomplete should not have states OffScreen when visible.
- # [10:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966910 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, List Items for the BugZilla autocomplete should not have states OffScreen when visible.
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- # [15:19] <@yzen> MarcoZ, surkov, tbsaunde good morning/afternoon
- # [15:19] <@surkov> yzen: hey
- # [15:20] <@MarcoZ> Hi yzen ! surkov ! tbsaunde ! :)
- # [15:20] <@surkov> hey, MarcoZ !
- # [15:20] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I filed (yet another) offscreen/invisibility bug this morning. Bug 966910. :)
- # [15:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966910 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, List Items for the BugZilla autocomplete should not have states OffScreen when visible.
- # [15:21] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yep, I saw it
- # [15:22] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 819291 from riteshnpatel1994@gmail.com to yzenevich@mozilla.com.
- # [15:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819291 cri, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame, called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
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- # [15:23] <@davidb> heyo!
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- # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
- # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Bug 907682 is about PosInSet and such, is it not? Mine is about visuals.
- # [15:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907682 nor, --, mozilla29, jwei, RESO FIXED, HTML:option group position is not correct when select is collapsed
- # [15:26] <@davidb> hi hi hi
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- # [15:27] <@surkov> MarcoZ: ah, right, that one was about invisible state
- # [15:27] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Yeah, and this one is about state offscreen when the bounds indicate the element is clearly within the bounds of my screen resolution.
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- # [15:28] <@surkov> I see
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- # [15:29] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Let's hope bug 923139 will be finished soon! :) Poor you, what did I dump on you there! :)
- # [15:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923139 nor, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, Make the phone app accessible
- # [15:30] <@yzen> MarcoZ i believe it will soon :) , I split it up into legible task-based commits so the reviewer should have an OK time :)
- # [15:31] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yeah I saw the exchange on Bugzilla. Hopefully this will all work out soon and we can move on to the next one!
- # [15:31] <@yzen> MarcoZ agreed, which one would you say should be the next one ?
- # [15:33] <@yzen> MarcoZ also I chatted with the marketplace content guy and he suggested coming up with a list of apps that are accessible to be featured in the accessible apps collection when the marketplace feed rolls out some time in march, i believe :)
- # [15:33] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I'd say Contacts, the Messages, then Browser.
- # [15:34] <@yzen> MarcoZ something that eeejay and i found out about the browser is that it's going away
- # [15:34] <@yzen> it will be replaced by the rocket bar
- # [15:34] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Whatever that will be! :)
- # [15:34] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Anyway, I think Contacts and Messages should be next.
- # [15:34] <@MarcoZ> yzen: It's a phone after all. :)
- # [15:35] <@yzen> ok
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- # [16:02] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Ready when you are for 1:1. :)
- # [16:03] <@davidb> MarcoZ: yep 2 mins
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- # [16:04] <@davidb> MarcoZ: ready.
- # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> Hi maxli, my hero! :)
- # [16:04] <@davidb> hehe
- # [16:09] <maxli> Hi MarcoZ and all!
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- # [16:41] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Hey do you know what the current state of initial a11y Gaia tests is? is that landed, or still in the review process somewhere?
- # [16:42] <@yzen> MarcoZ so the initial tests for the lockscreen that eeejay added are landed in master, I am currently finishing up the ones for the dialer
- # [16:42] <@yzen> MarcoZ there are in:
- # [16:43] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Cool! Do you know the path where they reside?
- # [16:43] * @MarcoZ can't seem to find them.
- # [16:43] <@yzen> gaia/tests/python/gaia-ui-tests/gaiatest/tests/accessibility
- # [16:43] <@yzen> crazy path :)
- # [16:44] <@yzen> now some of my tests for the dialer can only be ran on the device
- # [16:44] <@yzen> fyi
- # [16:44] <@davidb> surkov: PMed ya
- # [16:49] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I can imagine! Thanks for the path! :)
- # [16:49] <@yzen> np :)
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- # [17:54] <SteveF> davidb: was surprised (pleasantly) to find my name on moz mon
- # [17:54] <@davidb> SteveF: why are you surprised?
- # [17:54] <@MarcoZ> Hi maxli, looks you've got r+. Are you prepared to land it?
- # [17:54] <SteveF> davidb: thought one had to sign up for it
- # [17:55] <@davidb> SteveF: i dunno
- # [17:55] <@MarcoZ> Darn, that reminds me, I totally forgot to send in my name for the monument back when it was announced that we should.
- # [17:55] <@MarcoZ> Guess my name didn't make it.
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- # [17:57] <SteveF> MarcoZ: its there Side: 1, upper panel, Row: 28, Number : 7
- # [17:57] <@MarcoZ> SteveF: Oh wow!!!
- # [17:57] <@davidb> MarcoZ: pretty sure about:credits is automatic
- # [17:57] <SteveF> MarcoZ: found it using this http://thewebrocks.com/demos/mozilla-monument-name-finder/
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- # [18:00] <maxli> MarcoZ: Landed.
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- # [18:01] <@MarcoZ> maxli: Super, thanks!
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- # [18:02] <@davidb> tbsaunde, surkov where is the latest canvas hit testing spec?
- # [18:02] <@surkov> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-2dcontext-20121217/#dom-context-2d-drawcustomfocusring
- # [18:02] <@surkov> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-canvas-element.html#dom-context-2d-drawcustomfocusring
- # [18:02] <@surkov> I used these ones
- # [18:03] <@davidb> thanks
- # [18:03] <@MarcoZ> SteveF: Whoops, that link freezes my NVDA and Firefox. I can close the tab, but as long as it's open, the window no longer responds. Ouch.
- # [18:04] <SteveF> MarcoZ: blame christian heilmann :-)
- # [18:05] <@davidb> yzen, jwei I know you can't get enough of me. Any lunch plans?
- # [18:05] <@yzen> davidb i brought :)
- # [18:05] <@davidb> *shock*
- # [18:05] <@davidb> well ok then!
- # [18:06] <jwei> davidb: Didn't bring lunch as usual.
- # [18:06] <@yzen> but if you guys bring it back ill eat with you :) ?
- # [18:06] <@davidb> yzen: we will
- # [18:06] <@yzen> cool
- # [18:06] <@davidb> jwei: roll?
- # [18:07] <jwei> davidb: Sure.
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- # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> In 3 weeks I'll be having lunch with all of you guys for a whole week! Can't wait!
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- # [19:19] <SteveF> davidb: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/#drawing-paths-to-the-canvas if you are looking for the latest with changes to drawfocusthing
- # [19:19] <@davidb> thank you
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- # [19:21] <SteveF> davidb: that contains the (implementer apparently) agreed changes unsure if/when stuff will appear in the whatwg version
- # [19:21] <@davidb> SteveF: there is new discussion
- # [19:22] <@davidb> SteveF: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JanMar/0062.html
- # [19:22] <SteveF> davidb: yeah am following along sort of
- # [19:22] * @davidb nods
- # [19:28] <@davidb> SteveF: for the definition of drawFocusIfNeeded (in your link)...
- # [19:28] <@davidb> "If the given element has focus, draws a focus outline around the current path"
- # [19:28] <@davidb> SteveF: does this assume the current path corresponds to the element passed in?
- # [19:29] <@davidb> because current path and focus are in synch?
- # [19:31] <@eeejay> go hawks!
- # [19:34] <@davidb> heh
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- # [19:54] <SteveF> davidb: you are asking the wrong person, try cabanier_ on irc://irc.w3.org:6665/html-wg
- # [19:54] <@davidb> SteveF: cabanier is right here
- # [19:55] <cabanier> davidb: what is your question?
- # [19:57] <@davidb> cabanier: hi, I'm trying to understand the full definition of drawFocusIfNeeded, but don't want to distract you from the current explorations.
- # [19:57] <cabanier> davidb: so, the w3c version sounds like it won't be accepted by mozilla. Dominic from Google who originally implemented it, got cold feet and withdrew his intent to ship
- # [19:57] <@davidb> I saw that.
- # [19:57] <cabanier> davidb: the w3c spec is reflecting google's implementation
- # [19:57] * @davidb nods
- # [19:57] <@davidb> I want to understand it anyway.
- # [19:57] * SteveF where ever he is he is the guy to ask...
- # [19:57] <@davidb> SteveF: heh
- # [19:58] <cabanier> davidb: right now, as I understand it, drawFocusIfNeeded will only draw focus
- # [19:58] <cabanier> davidb: so, if the element is focused, a stroke will be emitted around the current path
- # [19:59] <@davidb> cabanier: and that assumes the current path is for the focused element right?
- # [19:59] <@davidb> there is a sync there
- # [19:59] <cabanier> davidb: yes
- # [19:59] <@davidb> who owns that sync?
- # [19:59] <@davidb> web dev i assume
- # [20:00] * @davidb wonders if he is making sense
- # [20:00] <cabanier> davidb: the focus is drawn immediately by the canvas code
- # [20:00] <cabanier> davidb: it doesn't happen at some later stage
- # [20:00] <cabanier> davidb: if the developer knew the focus style, he could just do this himself
- # [20:01] <@davidb> hmm, who calls drawFocusIfNeeded?
- # [20:01] <cabanier> davidb: "if(element.isFocused)context.stroke(focusstyle);"
- # [20:01] <cabanier> davidb: the developer
- # [20:01] <@davidb> ok
- # [20:03] <cabanier> davidb: our original attempt set the path that was active at "drawFocusIfNeeded" as the accessible region for the fallback content
- # [20:03] <cabanier> davidb: now, we will basically do the same when you call addHitRegion
- # [20:04] <@davidb> ok thanks
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- # [21:00] <@yzen> eeejay ping
- # [21:12] <@eeejay> yzen, yo
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- # [21:16] <@yzen> eeejay i was wondering if you had any problems with the latest build on the phone
- # [21:17] <@eeejay> yzen, have not tried it on the phone yet
- # [21:17] <@eeejay> yzen, do i screw it up?
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- # [21:17] <@yzen> eeejay well it's weird, i m getting an error in getState :( , something to do with toString of State being read only :S
- # [21:18] <@eeejay> oops
- # [21:18] <@eeejay> bad
- # [21:18] <@yzen> eeejay i have a feeling there's something weird about the fat arrow function and toString
- # [21:18] * @eeejay builds daily thing
- # [21:18] <@yzen> it seems to work if i change to a regular function declaration
- # [21:18] <@eeejay> yzen, hm. so be it!
- # [21:18] <@yzen> ill confirm it works and post a patch
- # [21:18] <@yzen> eeejay^
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- # [21:29] <@davidb> cabanier, surkov so are you guys exploring hit regions this week?
- # [21:29] <@surkov> davidb: yes
- # [21:30] <@davidb> surkov: ok and W3C wants to know if the initial approach is still a possibility. The concern about persistence of state, is it a complete show stopper?
- # [21:31] <@surkov> davidb: I would use the old approach as fallback only, in case if hit region completely fails due to some reason
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- # [21:36] <@davidb> time to translocate
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- # [22:53] <@yzen> eeejay looks like a patch for bug 965628 does not apply correctly (i tried both on master and on top of bug 965621)
- # [22:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965628 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Clear cursor position of embedded document if top cursor moves from frame
- # [22:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965621 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Use EventManager's top-level document and not event document when manipulating VC
- # [22:53] <@eeejay> yzen, oops
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- # [23:13] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 967238 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
- # [23:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967238 nor, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Avoid recreating a constructor for the internal State object in Utils.jsm.
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