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  59. # [07:28] <@MarcoZ> Hi and an early good morning!
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  109. # [14:44] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Hi good morning! :)
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  111. # [14:47] <@surkov> hey, MarcoZ
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  116. # [15:14] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(riteshnpatel1994@ gmail.com) on bug 819291.
  117. # [15:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819291 cri, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame, called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
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  125. # [15:47] <@firebot> mhoye@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com on bug 737766.
  126. # [15:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737766 nor, --, ---, manishsin8, NEW, Firefox can't save the homepage.
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  129. # [15:47] <@MarcoZ> Back. :) Hey everyone!
  130. # [15:49] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
  131. # [15:49] <@yzen> MarcoZ question for your regarding tabs
  132. # [15:49] <@MarcoZ> Hi yzen ! Fire away! :)
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  135. # [15:50] <@yzen> MarcoZ in terms of aria-contols and aria-labeldby, what would be ideal if the tabpanel is shared - the content is rendered based on the tab selected by JS
  136. # [15:50] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Well, aria-controls would stay the same, aria-labelledby would obviously need to be updated based on which tab is selected.
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  138. # [15:51] <@MarcoZ> aria-controls goes from the tabs to the tabpanel, and is the lesser used item by screen readers. AccessFu doesn't use it at all ATM. So aria-labelledby is the more important.
  139. # [15:51] <@yzen> cool
  140. # [15:51] <@yzen> MarcoZ so it's sensible for 2 tabs to control the same tab pabel?
  141. # [15:51] <@yzen> panel
  142. # [15:52] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Well, if there is only one tab panel whose content gets updated, yeah it would. Or you just put aria-controls on the tablist instead, since all tabs control the panel. Anyway, since that attribute isn't widely used, it's also not that crutial.
  143. # [15:53] <@yzen> roger that
  144. # [15:53] <@MarcoZ> aria-labelledby is more important so the tabpanel always reflects which tab it is showing.
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  147. # [15:56] <@MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
  148. # [15:56] <@davidb> hi!
  149. # [15:56] <@davidb> heyo
  150. # [15:56] <@davidb> MarcoZ: i just need 2 mins
  151. # [15:57] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Sure!
  152. # [15:57] <@davidb> MarcoZ: ready :)
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  161. # [16:51] <@davidb> victorporof: I hear you are in the office!
  162. # [16:51] <@davidb> welcome!
  163. # [16:51] <victorporof> \o/ thank you!
  164. # [16:51] <victorporof> are you around?
  165. # [16:51] <@davidb> i'll find ya later
  166. # [16:51] <@davidb> to say hi
  167. # [16:51] <victorporof> ok, that'd be great
  168. # [16:51] <@davidb> oh heck i'll hunt you now
  169. # [16:51] <victorporof> i'm at 5050
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  172. # [17:17] <@MarcoZ> Meeting in 10: davidb, eeejay, yzen, jwei, surkov, tbsaunde.
  173. # [17:17] <@davidb> roger
  174. # [17:17] <@yzen> MarcoZ thanks
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  178. # [17:21] <@davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Meetings/2014-02-10
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  181. # [17:26] <@tbsaunde> davidb: normal room?
  182. # [17:29] <@davidb> yeah tech problems though
  183. # [17:29] <@MarcoZ> Where is everybody?
  184. # [17:29] <@MarcoZ> Ah!
  185. # [17:30] <@davidb> waiting for eeejay and surkov
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  196. # [17:45] <@davidb> great we get to shame them!
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  199. # [17:48] <@tbsaunde> davidb: planning on grabbing food?
  200. # [17:48] <@davidb> tbsaunde: yes. not sure where yet
  201. # [17:50] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I hope you aren't looking at me for ideas ;)
  202. # [17:51] <@davidb> heh
  203. # [17:51] <@davidb> maybe yzen or jwei have ideas
  204. # [17:52] <@yzen> brought mine but as usual will eat with you guys
  205. # [17:53] <@davidb> tbsaunde: burrito?
  206. # [17:53] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i'll grab and bring back. what would you like?
  207. # [17:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: a borito would be fine if your going there
  208. # [17:55] <@tbsaunde> or I can grab a shoulder and go wherever you go
  209. # [17:55] <@davidb> tbsaunde: tempting but i think i want to bring back anyway
  210. # [17:55] <@davidb> tbsaunde: what do you want in it?
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  229. # [19:00] <@eeejay> sorry for missing that thing
  230. # [19:01] <@davidb> eeejay: s'ok your punishment is to help smaug in #content
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  235. # [19:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 970089 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  236. # [19:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 970089 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  237. # [19:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=970089 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, long (infinite?) loop in a11y:FocusManager::ProcessFocusEvent
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  242. # [19:16] <@eeejay> yzen, you manage to install the linter locally?
  243. # [19:17] <@yzen> well i m using the google closure one
  244. # [19:17] <@yzen> eeejay is that what you mean or the jshint ?
  245. # [19:17] <@yzen> with easy_install
  246. # [19:17] <@eeejay> yzen, right. whatever the precommit hook calls
  247. # [19:18] <@yzen> eeejay i just did this to install:
  248. # [19:18] * @yzen sudo easy_install http://closure-linter.googlecode.com/files/closure_linter-latest.tar.gz
  249. # [19:19] <@eeejay> yzen, right.. and once that is installed, git will not allow you to commit bad js
  250. # [19:19] <@yzen> afaik no, but i think it ignores some things like, jsdoc
  251. # [19:19] <@yzen> which is why i had to rebase my pull for the screen reader toggle
  252. # [19:20] <@eeejay> yzen, ah. ok. usually if travis complains about it, it is in the pre-commit hook
  253. # [19:20] <@yzen> yep
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  256. # [19:22] <@eeejay> \o/ https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/commit/a504e2e01335167275e47f35ddc5b89bb858a892
  257. # [19:23] <@yzen> :)
  258. # [19:24] <@yzen> btw eeejay i dug myself into a hole with the dialer, the tabs are going to be a substantial pull
  259. # [19:24] <@yzen> eeejay perhaps you know how gaia uses bedrock ?
  260. # [19:24] <@eeejay> yzen, i do not!
  261. # [19:25] <@yzen> it looks like we use tabzilla to generate tabs markup in some cases
  262. # [19:25] <@yzen> like the browser
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  267. # [19:42] <@tbsaunde> surkov: does my comment in bug 9700005 make sense? are you ok with fixing it? I'm not sure what the right behavior is
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  269. # [19:47] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I will
  270. # [19:48] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yes, your comment makes sense, that scenario is possible
  271. # [19:51] <@davidb> I think it is safe to not support a child aria-owning an ancestor. In any event we need to be cycle proof.
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  273. # [19:53] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, that's what I think, I have no idea how you'd even do that properly
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  278. # [20:25] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 970005 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  279. # [20:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=970005 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Browser hang, when you clicked left upper red "Gmail"
  280. # [20:28] <@tbsaunde> surkov: shouldn't multiple levels of aria-owns be allowed?
  281. # [20:28] <@surkov> tbsaunde: why not
  282. # [20:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what do you mean?
  283. # [20:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I think you can use as many aria-owns as you want
  284. # [20:30] <@tbsaunde> surkov: but with your patch isn't only one going to work?
  285. # [20:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: example?
  286. # [20:32] <@tbsaunde> surkov: consider <dirv aria-owns=div1>blah</div> <div id=div1 aria-owns=div2>blah blah</div> <div id=div2>foobar</div> div2.focus();
  287. # [20:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: it doesn't valid menus hiearchy
  288. # [20:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you can do aria-owns but you should do menu hierarchy
  289. # [20:34] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, supose that whole thing is udner <div role=menuitem>
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  291. # [20:35] <@surkov> tbsaunde: maybe it's hard to say but adding role="menu item" on top doesn't seem making valid menu hierarchy
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  293. # [20:37] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) on bug 737766.
  294. # [20:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737766 nor, --, ---, manishsin8, NEW, Firefox can't save the homepage.
  295. # [20:37] <@tbsaunde> surkov: why not? a menu item can contain anything right?
  296. # [20:38] <@davidb> in the wild web, anything goes
  297. # [20:38] <@surkov> technically yes but I wouldn't take it into consideration for menu events
  298. # [20:38] <@surkov> all logic works when menu item takes the focus
  299. # [20:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ^
  300. # [20:39] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  301. # [20:40] <@tbsaunde> can we kill aria-owns drive a 2 by 4 through its heart and salt its grave with radio active cobalt?
  302. # [20:43] <@davidb> that is too kind
  303. # [20:49] <@davidb> we need a top 10 list
  304. # [20:49] <@davidb> like colbert's on notice list
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  316. # [21:51] <peteb> Where can I download FF 26? (Checking to see if something changed in 27.)
  317. # [21:53] <peteb> NM finally found it
  318. # [21:55] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 961696.
  319. # [21:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=961696 nor, --, ---, jwei, NEW, Accessible object:state-changed:focused events for imagemap links are broken
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  344. # [23:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=970005 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Browser hang, when you clicked left upper red "Gmail"
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