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  1. # Session Start: Thu Feb 27 00:00:00 2014
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  13. # [01:37] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 972047 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  14. # [01:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972047 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Add tests for OOP message handling and general integration
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  27. # [04:02] <@tbsaunde> surkov: it would be nice if you try and fix the signed vs unsigned warnings in the text API code ;)
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  30. # [04:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: agree they are annoyinng
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  67. # [14:49] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 972047 from --- to FIXED.
  68. # [14:49] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 972047 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  69. # [14:50] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 972047 from --- to mozilla30.
  70. # [14:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972047 nor, --, mozilla30, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Add tests for OOP message handling and general integration
  71. # [14:52] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 976142 from --- to FIXED.
  72. # [14:52] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 976142 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  73. # [14:52] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 976142 from --- to mozilla30.
  74. # [14:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976142 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Create useful debug event string for vc change events
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  79. # [15:17] <@yzen> http://www.polymer-project.org/
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  84. # [15:50] <eeejay> surkov, Ливан
  85. # [15:54] <@yzen> http://sublimetext.com/
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  88. # [15:58] <@davidb> heyo
  89. # [15:59] <SteveF> bugger you bolter
  90. # [16:00] <SteveF> sorry meant Hi! davidb
  91. # [16:00] <SteveF> davidb: CSUN it is then
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  94. # [16:02] <@davidb> SteveF: :P
  95. # [16:02] <@davidb> SteveF: i'm not hitting csun this year
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  97. # [16:02] <SteveF> CSUN it isn't then
  98. # [16:03] <SteveF> anybody from moz acc (apart from eejay) gonna be there?
  99. # [16:07] <@davidb> no but next year hoping to have a splash
  100. # [16:08] <@davidb> SteveF: as i see people sign up for the tweet up and tweet it, i have some regret
  101. # [16:08] <@davidb> would be cool to know earlier who is going
  102. # [16:08] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ping
  103. # [16:09] <SteveF> davidb: yeah there is a good crowd as usual
  104. # [16:09] <@davidb> yeah
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  112. # [16:40] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 971255 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  113. # [16:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971255 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make it easier to run code conditional on debug log level
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  118. # [17:14] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
  119. # [17:14] <@surkov> tbsaunde: can you update me on patch?
  120. # [17:14] <@surkov> hey
  121. # [17:15] <@tbsaunde> surkov: text range one? I think its about done
  122. # [17:15] <@surkov> tbsaunde: awesome!
  123. # [17:31] <eeejay> tbsaunde, jwei, i am headed to banditos burritos, if you want one
  124. # [17:31] <jwei> eeejay: I'll come with.
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  133. # [18:14] <@firebot> manishearth@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 755621 from nobody@mozilla.org to sid3129@gmail.com.
  134. # [18:14] <@firebot> manishearth@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 755621 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  135. # [18:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755621 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add downcasting for nsXULTreeItemAccessibleBase
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  143. # [19:04] <@MarcoZ> Gijs: Awesome reply, thank you!
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  153. # [19:56] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 977723 filed by continuation@gmail.com.
  154. # [19:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977723 nor, --, ---, continuation, NEW, Remove two unused vars in accessible/
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  156. # [20:16] * slee looks around and sees some peeps he knows
  157. # [20:18] <slee> MarcoZ: : ping
  158. # [20:21] <@MarcoZ> Hi slee!
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  162. # [20:39] <slee> howdy. Just passing by as visiting B2G
  163. # [20:40] <slee> got a warm fuzzy feeling being back on Moz turf and trying to build and run B2g :)
  164. # [20:42] <slee> MarcoZ: ^ forgetting how to use chatzilla - no sound
  165. # [20:43] <@yzen> slee hey
  166. # [20:44] <slee> yzen: hey! have you started at mo now?
  167. # [20:44] <@yzen> slee yes just over a month now
  168. # [20:44] <slee> I think kasper is missing you :)
  169. # [20:44] <slee> wow time flies
  170. # [20:44] <@yzen> ya
  171. # [20:44] <slee> Are David / Marco looking after you?
  172. # [20:45] <@yzen> :) yep
  173. # [20:45] <slee> so I'm play with B2G and so far not getting a build to run in emulator - sheesh
  174. # [20:45] <slee> just like the good old days building FFx
  175. # [20:45] <@yzen> slee are you building gaia or all of b2g ?
  176. # [20:46] <slee> all of it for fun! perhasp there are binaries but did not find them
  177. # [20:46] <slee> Emulator just stays black :(
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  180. # [20:47] <@yzen> slee hmm , i dont think i tried to build an emulator before, just the actual device
  181. # [20:47] <slee> I don't have a device, but who knows may win a tablet
  182. # [20:47] <slee> davidb: looks who's back in town :) Me!
  183. # [20:47] <@yzen> slee if you want to play around with the user facing part I would suggest just building Gaia, since you can run with the desktop firefox
  184. # [20:48] <@davidb> cool!
  185. # [20:48] <slee> yzen: aah. I saw there was a XULRunner based one but limited.
  186. # [20:48] <slee> will go back and try Firefox, thanks
  187. # [20:49] <@yzen> one sec ill find instructions for you
  188. # [20:49] <slee> glad I dropped in :)
  189. # [20:49] <@yzen> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Trash/Using_Gaia_in_Firefox
  190. # [20:49] * slee smiles a big smile
  191. # [20:49] <@yzen> slee^
  192. # [20:50] <@yzen> much faster but you wont be able to do phone things like calling , texting etc
  193. # [20:50] <slee> yzen: cool - though now replaced with https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Hacking_Firefox_OS/Quickstart_guide_to_Gaia_development
  194. # [20:50] <slee> That#s fine as I'm trying out UI only for now. Perfect.
  195. # [20:51] * eeejay waves at slee
  196. # [20:51] <slee> yzen: you are a star!
  197. # [20:51] <eeejay> slee, do you have a nexus 4
  198. # [20:51] <slee> eeejay: yay just like old days!
  199. # [20:51] <slee> eeejay: no a cheap old HTC one
  200. # [20:52] <eeejay> slee, time to upgrade. or even a nexus 5
  201. # [20:52] <slee> eeejay: I entered the Tablet programme for Firefox OS so fingers crossed.
  202. # [20:52] <slee> they have 1000 units so odds reasonable i Guess
  203. # [20:53] <slee> eeejay: hehe 5 looks tempting - also biometric to play with
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  205. # [20:54] <slee> eeejay: MarcoZ gave you a good shout out in recent blog post - reverse engineer hackery!
  206. # [20:54] * slee waves - tea is ready
  207. # [20:54] <eeejay> what really? I was featured on marcozehe.de? fame and fortune!
  208. # [20:55] <slee> eeejay: he didn't ask first - tut
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  210. # [20:58] <@davidb> and if a flash, he was gone.
  211. # [20:58] <@davidb> if/in
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  216. # [21:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 977170 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  217. # [21:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 977170 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  218. # [21:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977170 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, can't query IAccessible from HTML area element having ISimpleDOMNode pointer
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  233. # [21:45] <@davidb> bugzilla is having problems
  234. # [21:53] <eeejay> bug #894485
  235. # [21:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894485 nor, --, mozilla25, eitan, REOP, Don't rely on roles and click listeners for default doAction()
  236. # [21:57] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  237. # [21:58] <eeejay> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-events.html
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  241. # [22:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: next patch(es) are coming up?
  242. # [22:27] * surkov sets mode: +o tbsaunde
  243. # [22:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ?
  244. # [22:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: text range patch
  245. # [22:29] <@surkov> what is next step?
  246. # [22:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: waiting for davidb?
  247. # [22:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: for what?
  248. # [22:32] <@davidb> aroo?
  249. # [22:32] <@tbsaunde> surkov: doesn't he still have a patch to review?
  250. # [22:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: he cancelled review yesterday I assume because we wanted to improve my patch
  251. # [22:33] <@tbsaunde> oh hm, seems it didn't get attached ?.T
  252. # [22:33] <@surkov> we -> you
  253. # [22:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: no new patch and new review request I saw
  254. # [22:33] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, see that now
  255. # [22:34] <@surkov> ok, cool
  256. # [22:36] <@davidb> am i the right one to review?
  257. # [22:37] <@davidb> willing but rusty
  258. # [22:37] * @tbsaunde shrugs
  259. # [22:38] <@davidb> do as you will
  260. # [22:38] <@surkov> ok, davidb, your next turn :)
  261. # [22:38] <@davidb> fantastic
  262. # [22:44] <@davidb> surkov, tbsaunde am I reviewing an inter-diff?
  263. # [22:44] <@surkov> davidb: interdiff doesn't work in this case
  264. # [22:44] <@davidb> drat
  265. # [22:44] <@davidb> i mean ok
  266. # [22:44] <@surkov> davidb: I afraid you'd need to run through it
  267. # [22:45] <@davidb> surkov: what is the bug report for? i don't see a summary
  268. # [22:45] <@surkov> davidb: bug 969532
  269. # [22:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=969532 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, add TextRange stub
  270. # [22:45] <@davidb> surkov: i want at least 3 sentences :)
  271. # [22:46] <@davidb> e.g. "this will make XYZ easier" "we need it for ABC"
  272. # [22:46] <@davidb> etc
  273. # [22:46] <@surkov> davidb: it's basically stub implementation for TextRange object
  274. # [22:46] <@surkov> internal part + xpcom part
  275. # [22:46] <@davidb> splitting?
  276. # [22:46] <@surkov> that's needed for UIA text range impl
  277. # [22:46] <@davidb> hmmm
  278. # [22:47] <@davidb> ok i'll try
  279. # [22:47] <@surkov> we will have internal object, xpcom one and UIA one
  280. # [22:47] <@davidb> i don't recall we had an explicit concept of ranges before
  281. # [22:47] <@surkov> tbsaunde: btw, thanks for the patch!
  282. # [22:47] <@surkov> davidb: yes, it's new
  283. # [22:48] <@davidb> ah ok
  284. # [22:48] <@surkov> it's different concept if you compare it to ATK/IA2
  285. # [22:48] <@surkov> or accessFu if you want
  286. # [22:48] <@davidb> yeah
  287. # [22:48] <@davidb> actually i think webkit has a concept of ranges for their editor
  288. # [22:48] * @tbsaunde hits Relation with the rval ref hammer too
  289. # [22:48] <@davidb> maybe trident too
  290. # [22:49] <@surkov> it seems I'm not familiar
  291. # [22:49] <@davidb> surkov: it was something ehsan told me once
  292. # [22:49] <@surkov> ok
  293. # [22:49] <@davidb> surkov: should i read up on the UIA spec?
  294. # [22:50] <@surkov> davidb: not really necessary but you're welcome :)
  295. # [22:50] <@davidb> heh ok
  296. # [22:50] <@surkov> it has to good for a generic picture
  297. # [22:50] <@davidb> surkov: is end of day tomorrow ok?
  298. # [22:50] <@surkov> sure
  299. # [22:50] <@davidb> ok
  300. # [22:51] <@surkov> just pls don't put it into bottom of the inbox :)
  301. # [22:51] <@davidb> right
  302. # [22:51] <@davidb> you know where to find me
  303. # [22:51] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what's the bug for the warnings about multiple operator = with Relation and msvc?
  304. # [22:51] <@surkov> I don't recall
  305. # [22:52] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  306. # [22:52] <@davidb> Bug 677952]?
  307. # [22:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677952 nor, --, mozilla27, dholbert, RESO FIXED, warning C4522: 'Relation': multiple assignment operators specified
  308. # [22:54] * Parts: clown (clown@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  309. # [22:57] <@davidb> eeejay: are you okay with working out the project with yash?
  310. # [22:57] <@davidb> i'm in the middle of writing an email suggesting this :)
  311. # [22:57] <eeejay> davidb, totaly-ish
  312. # [22:57] <@davidb> heh ok
  313. # [22:58] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, just found that
  314. # [23:00] <@davidb> should have nick'd ya
  315. # [23:01] <@tbsaunde> its fine
  316. # [23:04] <@davidb> surkov: you should rewrite editor.
  317. # [23:05] <@surkov> davidb: which one?
  318. # [23:05] <@davidb> gecko
  319. # [23:05] <@surkov> you think so
  320. # [23:05] <@davidb> :)
  321. # [23:05] <@davidb> there probably isn't enough whiskey
  322. # [23:05] <@surkov> I'm not sure what will be enough for that :)
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  325. # [23:20] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 977838 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  326. # [23:23] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I hope you don't hate the approach too much ;)
  327. # [23:24] <@surkov> tbsaunde: not at all, it's unusual but that's probably ok
  328. # [23:27] <@tbsaunde> surkov: its sort of similar to strings ;)
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  330. # [23:28] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yeah, what I never wasn't fun about :) because of same reason
  331. # [23:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what's wrong with strings?
  332. # [23:30] <@surkov> tbsaunde: same T& for out arugments
  333. # [23:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: because it's not clear the argument value won't be changed, iirc that's something goes from Stroustrup guide
  334. # [23:36] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 971255 from --- to FIXED.
  335. # [23:36] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 971255 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  336. # [23:36] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 971255 from --- to mozilla30.
  337. # [23:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971255 nor, --, mozilla30, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Make it easier to run code conditional on debug log level
  338. # [23:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I don't particularly care about T& vs T*
  339. # [23:47] <@surkov> right
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