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  49. # [10:57] <@MarcoZ> Good morning all!
  50. # [10:59] <Ryuno-Ki> Good Morning, MarcoZ :)
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  55. # [11:31] <Ryuno-Ki> Good morning, MarcoZ :)
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  60. # [12:07] <SteveF> hey MarcoZ!
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  80. # [14:18] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 638465 from --- to FIXED.
  81. # [14:18] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 638465 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  82. # [14:18] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 638465 from --- to mozilla31.
  83. # [14:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638465 nor, --, mozilla31, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, We're not picking up the insertion into the newly created window of testcase for bug 637644
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  89. # [14:38] <@MarcoZ> Hi SteveF! :)
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  104. # [15:12] <@yzen> morning
  105. # [15:14] <@yzen> MarcoZ interesting about the 3 point swipes
  106. # [15:15] <@yzen> MarcoZ btw i saw what you experienced in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981015#c12 . It happens sometimes when you try to do 2 finger scroll on the page without scroll, which might be the issue with how the accessfu handles the gesture
  107. # [15:15] <@firebot> Bug 981015 nor, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Improve TouchAdapter.
  108. # [15:17] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Hi! Oh interesting, good that you also saw it and have an idea! I wasn't sure whether it actually has to do with this version of the patch, since I didn't see it with the second version.
  109. # [15:18] <@MarcoZ> "This" being V3.
  110. # [15:21] <@yzen> ya i think i saw it in both..
  111. # [15:21] <@yzen> ill take a look
  112. # [15:22] <@yzen> my main goal is to make sure that the right events are firing with the adapter, the way they are handled might be a separate issue
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  115. # [15:24] <@davidb> heyo!
  116. # [15:28] <@MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
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  120. # [15:35] <@MarcoZ> yzen: But beside those slight problems, version 3 is way way better in terms of responding to exploration movements! :)
  121. # [15:37] <@yzen> MarcoZ that's great. ill try to figure out why the 3 point swipes are acting up
  122. # [15:40] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Fantastic!
  123. # [15:41] <@MarcoZ> Hm, wondering if eeejay saw my second review request on bug 989958. It's not a big code change, but still big enough that it warrants re-review.
  124. # [15:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989958 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, A html:button element with aria-pressed="true" does not expose pressed state
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  129. # [15:57] <@yzen> MarcoZ have you had a chance to play with the patch on fxos device ?
  130. # [15:58] <@davidb> MarcoZ: heyo. i asked you to get me looped in because i think it is important to get this right and i have a few things to say/ask.
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  134. # [16:08] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Will do!
  135. # [16:09] <@davidb> ta
  136. # [16:12] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Done!
  137. # [16:16] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Sorry, no, I haven't had a chance to try to build a FF OS build with that patch in.
  138. # [16:16] <@MarcoZ> I am having trouble getting back into that VM setup we did together when I was in Toronto.
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  140. # [16:16] <@yzen> MarcoZ oh no worries, i was just curious. btw let me know if you need help with that
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  142. # [16:17] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yeah, I think I might take up this after I return from Sweden end of next week. Right now I am getting prepared for a presentation in Stockholm, and will use a nightly build from either today or tomorrow with hopefully all the good new fixes in for demonstration. You know, tabs and dialler and all. :)
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  144. # [16:18] <@yzen> YEAH!
  145. # [16:18] <@MarcoZ> yzen: BTW: Congrats on landing those!
  146. # [16:18] <@yzen> MarcoZ thanks
  147. # [16:18] * @yzen feels good
  148. # [16:18] <@MarcoZ> Definitely! It's taken a long time and lots of iterations!
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  151. # [16:34] <@davidb> MarcoZ: HTH
  152. # [16:39] <@davidb> and the meeting i rushed for is cancelled
  153. # [16:41] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Thanks, this is huge!
  154. # [16:41] <@davidb> glad to hear it
  155. # [16:41] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Oh no re the meeting! :)
  156. # [16:41] <@davidb> i'll survive :)
  157. # [16:42] <@davidb> MarcoZ: is it 4:41pm for you?
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  160. # [17:14] <@davidb> yzen: your current bio is a damn lie https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/yzen/
  161. # [17:15] <@yzen> is it :) ?
  162. # [17:16] <@yzen> ohh right, i had to log in
  163. # [17:16] <@davidb> yerp
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  165. # [17:18] <slee> davidb:
  166. # [17:18] <slee> davidb: hi
  167. # [17:18] <@davidb> slee: hi
  168. # [17:18] <@davidb> slee: am i correct that jambu is dead?
  169. # [17:18] <@davidb> (last update around 2008)
  170. # [17:18] <@davidb> just want to be sure
  171. # [17:19] <slee> we'll it's been parked for ages. It was Linux only too. Would be interesting to explore.
  172. # [17:19] <@davidb> ok
  173. # [17:19] <@davidb> slee: you got a ffos tablet?
  174. # [17:19] <slee> I was just going to ask you about Firefox OS AT plans - like VO
  175. # [17:19] <@davidb> eeejay, yzen, and MarcoZ are working on the out of the box screen reader solution
  176. # [17:19] <slee> will have as have been contributing ot TCP programe. Making sure a11y included on landing page
  177. # [17:20] <@davidb> TCP?
  178. # [17:20] <slee> Really good team and Asa isa great leader
  179. # [17:20] <@davidb> glad ot hear that
  180. # [17:20] <@yzen> davidb better ?
  181. # [17:20] <@davidb> yzen: haha
  182. # [17:20] <slee> davidb: Tablet Contrib programe - https://wiki.mozilla.org/FirefoxOS/TCP#
  183. # [17:21] <@davidb> ah ok
  184. # [17:21] <slee> Mo giving 500 tablets away - had to select 'winners' and contract them
  185. # [17:21] <@davidb> contract or contact?
  186. # [17:22] <slee> david: so out of the box Screen Reader.
  187. # [17:22] <@davidb> slee: note yzen, who works on ffos didn't make the winner list
  188. # [17:23] <slee> I saw TTS works on FFxOS not browser. I added XPCOM to Maavis (well borrowed form CHarles Chen)
  189. # [17:23] <@davidb> i'm not familiar with it
  190. # [17:23] <slee> oops, sorry yzen; I look at why but I was away in africa so missed (phew)
  191. # [17:24] <@davidb> oh tis is that thing you started for elderly?
  192. # [17:24] <slee> so what about switch access on FirefoxOS? Somehting like Jambu? with lots of options like OS X / iOS ?
  193. # [17:24] <slee> GOK ?
  194. # [17:25] <@davidb> i want to investigate a solution there that has support
  195. # [17:25] <@davidb> like third party stuff
  196. # [17:25] <@davidb> but the door isn't closed to somethign like jambu
  197. # [17:25] <slee> good!
  198. # [17:25] <@davidb> i want it to work with people's existing switch hardware etc
  199. # [17:25] <slee> Jambu is just one part - the in UI navigation
  200. # [17:25] <slee> need grids like GOK.
  201. # [17:25] <slee> not many 3rd party options out there
  202. # [17:25] * @davidb nods
  203. # [17:26] <slee> Grid 2 on WIndows with eye track and switch but that writen in VB :D
  204. # [17:27] <slee> I'll think about it some
  205. # [17:27] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Oops sorry, got distracted. It's 5:20PM now.
  206. # [17:27] <slee> MarcoZ: hi
  207. # [17:27] <@davidb> i know these folks http://komodoopenlab.com/
  208. # [17:28] <@davidb> reminds me...
  209. # [17:28] <@davidb> yzen: can you connect with Jorge and see if they applied to TCP?
  210. # [17:29] <@davidb> either way I want to get them a device
  211. # [17:29] <@yzen> i ll ask but from talking to him yesterday i dont think so
  212. # [17:29] <@yzen> he gave me a theirs btw
  213. # [17:29] <@yzen> the tecla shield
  214. # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> davidb: yzen: I got a tablet. Was just told the other day.
  215. # [17:30] <@davidb> cool
  216. # [17:30] <@yzen> MarcoZ ya i got a no
  217. # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> Well, it'll be sent to me in the coming weeks, but I got selected in the Tablet Contribution Programme.
  218. # [17:32] <slee> davidb: Can't see either Jorges in lists. They should next round!
  219. # [17:33] <@davidb> slee: did you write a proposal?
  220. # [17:37] <slee> davidb: yes I wrote a proposal and then volunteered for TCP which turned out to be a good way to get one.
  221. # [17:38] <@davidb> slee: so is the proposal attached to your TCP approval? i'm just curious if there is some planned work or anything?
  222. # [17:43] <slee> david: oh I see. My proposal for TCP was pretty vauge and scored high. I mainly talked about exploring it's use as access technology platform so quality very important.. Much like I wanted to do with XUL. Firefox OS seems to be the platform XULRunner never quite was
  223. # [17:44] <slee> I have planned work to try porting new Maavis to web components and Firefox OS Apps .Will be doing as part of EU project work
  224. # [17:45] <slee> My TCP approval is purely as a volunteer to help run the party
  225. # [17:46] <slee> MarcoZ: Tablets should start shipping next week
  226. # [17:47] <slee> davidb: ^
  227. # [17:47] <@davidb> interesting
  228. # [17:47] <@davidb> slee: so you are sort of working on web library for building simple interfaces?
  229. # [17:48] <@yzen> MarcoZ i ll have something nice for you to tty shortly :)
  230. # [17:53] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yay!
  231. # [17:54] <slee> davidb: yes that's it in a nutshell!
  232. # [17:54] <slee> especially the "sort of" bit :)
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  238. # [18:18] <@yzen> just missed Marco :(
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  244. # [19:03] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from neil@httl.net on bug 975065.
  245. # [19:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975065 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, implement Text accessible text range methods
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  249. # [19:18] <@yzen> eeejay ping
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  253. # [19:40] <@firebot> yfdyh000@gmail.com requested needinfo from kittygrl756@yahoo .com on bug 991312.
  254. # [19:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991312 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, CTRL button zooms in browser alone
  255. # [19:49] <@eeejay> yzen, yo!
  256. # [19:49] <@yzen> eeejay hi, we can chat whenever you'd like
  257. # [19:50] <@eeejay> yzen, in an hour?
  258. # [19:50] <@yzen> sounds good
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  263. # [20:05] <@eeejay> i don't know if i should be happy or sad that my quest to get more info on the intermittent test fails has resulted in fixing the issue..
  264. # [20:06] <@davidb> sad
  265. # [20:08] <@eeejay> ok thanks
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  267. # [20:13] <@davidb> eeejay: I'm assuming that your debug output just changed the timing enough?
  268. # [20:13] <@eeejay> davidb, i slipped in a null-check that may have fixed it :P
  269. # [20:13] <@davidb> oh!
  270. # [20:13] <@davidb> sneaky devil
  271. # [20:14] <@davidb> then move on :)
  272. # [20:18] <@firebot> kittygrl756@yahoo.com cancelled needinfo?(kittygrl756@yahoo .com) on bug 991312.
  273. # [20:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991312 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, CTRL button zooms in browser alone
  274. # [20:18] <@firebot> kittygrl756@yahoo.com changed the Resolution on bug 991312 from --- to INVALID.
  275. # [20:18] <@firebot> kittygrl756@yahoo.com changed the Status on bug 991312 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  276. # [20:22] <@eeejay> yzen, you are rocking the audit there.. didn't even get started
  277. # [20:22] <@davidb> eeejay: it is because i got him a ping pong table
  278. # [20:22] <@eeejay> davidb, is that his new desk?
  279. # [20:22] <@davidb> not yet
  280. # [20:23] <@yzen> heh btw jwei won today
  281. # [20:23] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  282. # [20:23] <@yzen> luck i guess ;)
  283. # [20:23] <@davidb> heheh
  284. # [20:23] <@eeejay> i knew bench presses could be applied to ping pong :)
  285. # [20:23] <@yzen> ha
  286. # [20:23] <@davidb> i have to rely on guile
  287. # [20:24] <@davidb> and by that i mean GNU Ubiquitous Intelligent Language for Extensions obviously
  288. # [20:34] <@eeejay> of course
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  292. # [20:54] <@yzen> eeejay now's good?
  293. # [20:56] <@eeejay> yzen, yup! firing up skype
  294. # [21:03] <@davidb> guys - check your inboxes - i'll be available to chat in 45 minutes
  295. # [21:04] <@davidb> eeejay, surkov, yzen,tbsaunde ^
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  307. # [21:36] <@davidb> back
  308. # [21:36] <@davidb> anyone want to chat?
  309. # [21:37] <@eeejay> davidb. i'm tuned in to sfo commons. it is literally like being a fly on the wall
  310. # [21:40] <@davidb> tbsaunde: people are in finch if you want to join them to discuss changes
  311. # [21:40] <@davidb> yzen ^
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  314. # [22:01] <slee> bad news :(
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  316. # [22:05] <@davidb> it is a hard time
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  319. # [22:06] <@yzen> davidb ya i m at toronto commons and air mozilla with the rest
  320. # [22:07] <@davidb> ok
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  329. # [22:44] <@firebot> neil@httl.net cancelled needinfo?(neil@httl.net) on bug 975065.
  330. # [22:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975065 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, implement Text accessible text range methods
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