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  38. # [03:28] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 996268 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  39. # [03:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996268 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Create constants for traversal prefilters
  40. # [03:28] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 996821 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  41. # [03:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996821 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, HTML semantic elements should always get an accessible, despite styling
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  48. # [04:19] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 975065.
  49. # [04:19] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 975065 from --- to FIXED.
  50. # [04:19] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 975065 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  51. # [04:20] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 975065 from --- to mozilla31.
  52. # [04:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975065 nor, --, mozilla31, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, implement Text accessible text range methods
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  65. # [07:37] <@firebot> matspal@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 298197 from --- to WORKSFORME.
  66. # [07:37] <@firebot> matspal@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 298197 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  67. # [07:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298197 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, [pango] up/down arrow doesn't keep horizontal position in textarea / mail compose
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  97. # [12:59] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 996821 from --- to FIXED.
  98. # [12:59] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 996821 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  99. # [12:59] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 996821 from --- to mozilla31.
  100. # [13:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996821 nor, --, mozilla31, eitan, RESO FIXED, HTML semantic elements should always get an accessible, despite styling
  101. # [13:00] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 996268 from --- to FIXED.
  102. # [13:00] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 996268 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  103. # [13:00] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 996268 from --- to mozilla31.
  104. # [13:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996268 nor, --, mozilla31, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Create constants for traversal prefilters
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  125. # [15:40] <@davidb> yo
  126. # [15:40] <tbsaunde> mjorning
  127. # [15:40] <@davidb> tbsaunde: how goes the food fight?
  128. # [15:40] <@davidb> haha
  129. # [15:40] <@davidb> "good fight"
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  131. # [15:45] <tbsaunde> davidb: ok
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  136. # [16:34] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 997752 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  137. # [16:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997752 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, ARIA state changes from within shadow DOM don't trigger events
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  146. # [17:35] <@firebot> jwei@mozilla.com requested needinfo from eitan@monotonous. org on bug 949518.
  147. # [17:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=949518 nor, --, ---, jwei, NEW, No ValueChangedEvent fired when changing the number in an input type="number" with the arrow keys
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  162. # [19:08] <@eeejay> jwei, ping
  163. # [19:08] <jwei> eeejay: pong
  164. # [19:09] <@eeejay> jwei, so we get isFromUserInput false because we programatically change the caret position?
  165. # [19:09] <jwei> eeejay: Yup.
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  167. # [19:10] <@eeejay> jwei, don't know how disruptive it would be, but i think if caretOffset is changed on the text accessible, it really should be considered user input
  168. # [19:11] <@eeejay> jwei, since it is being done through the at
  169. # [19:11] <@eeejay> AT
  170. # [19:11] <@eeejay> jwei, non-user input would be if it was content js driven
  171. # [19:11] <@eeejay> or css driven
  172. # [19:11] <@eeejay> i didn't read the whole bug, so maybe you glossed over that..
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  174. # [19:16] <jwei> eeejay: Hmm, okay. I'll take a look at use cases then toss a needinfo? for surkov to double check after. Wouldn't this mean that any actions done by any AT should be considered user input, then? I don't think that's currently the case.
  175. # [19:17] <@eeejay> jwei, any actions via AT *should* be considered user input
  176. # [19:17] <jwei> eeejay: Ah, okay.
  177. # [19:17] <@eeejay> oh, thats what you wrote. yeah :)
  178. # [19:17] <@eeejay> i'll comment in the bug for surkov and gang
  179. # [19:18] <jwei> eeejay: Okay, cool. Thanks.
  180. # [19:22] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled needinfo?(eitan@monotonous. org) on bug 949518.
  181. # [19:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=949518 nor, --, ---, jwei, NEW, No ValueChangedEvent fired when changing the number in an input type="number" with the arrow keys
  182. # [19:24] <@davidb> userinput used to mean something
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  184. # [19:27] <@eeejay> i remember those days..
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  222. # [22:59] <@yzen> eeejay hey
  223. # [22:59] <@eeejay> yzen, hey
  224. # [22:59] <@yzen> i guess my intention to simulate screen reader dwell
  225. # [23:00] <@yzen> just realized that it's not on :S
  226. # [23:00] <@yzen> s/to/is to
  227. # [23:00] <@eeejay> yzen, the accessibility tests should be AT agnostic
  228. # [23:01] <@eeejay> yzen, we shouldn't involve the screen reader at all. are you testing for ebtness there?
  229. # [23:01] <@yzen> eeejay that's what i wanted to do , yes
  230. # [23:02] <@yzen> any thoughts on how to do that ? i'd prefer our tests actually failing when things stop working, like the lockscreen..
  231. # [23:03] <@yzen> but i do realize that my patch does not enable the screen reader so ill cancel the review
  232. # [23:04] <@eeejay> yzen, on the dom side, you could set up a listener for maybe a mouse hover, or something harmless. then dispatch it to those coordinates and see if it gets it.
  233. # [23:04] <@yzen> eeejay i guess it's somewhat different from the actual activation test, so i can keep them separate
  234. # [23:05] <@eeejay> yzen, also, the stated purpose of the patch, and the tests are a bit at odds. i would have a tests bug and have #webqa folks review
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  238. # [23:08] <@yzen> eeejay sounds good
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