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  44. # [06:58] <firebot> jamie@nvaccess.org cancelled needinfo?(jamie@nvaccess.or g) on bug 1017322.
  45. # [06:58] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1017322 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, mouse events via doAction don't have correct event target.
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  100. # [15:07] <@MarcoZ> Good day all!
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  106. # [15:22] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
  107. # [15:24] <@yzen> MarcoZ so is there an actual braille feature in iOS 8 ?
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  118. # [15:46] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Hi! There was always braille support in iOS since version 4 or so. So you can pair a bluetooth display to the device and get output. You can even use the braille display's braille keyboard, which most of them have, to input text when it is connected. The braille display then in essence acts as a braille keyboard, too.
  119. # [15:46] <@MarcoZ> yzen: So what I think is new here in iOS 8, at least that's what it looks to me, is that you can tell Apple explicitly that you want to keep the on-screen keyboard, the regular qwerty, on the screen even when your braille display *has* a braille keyboard. But I will need to pair a Bluetooth display to be sure of that.
  120. # [15:47] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I haven't seen evidence of a real on-screen braille keyboard like the mBraille app from the App store provides.
  121. # [15:47] <@yzen> MarcoZ oh ok, i was intrigued by the article slee mentioned on facebook
  122. # [15:47] <@MarcoZ> (and which I've never got to work for me, btw.)
  123. # [15:48] <slee> MarcoZ: so what exactly are they claiming is new in iOS8?
  124. # [15:49] <slee> MarcoZ: oops - missed your comment above
  125. # [15:50] <slee> Marco so does a screen reader say Yo-sem-ity or Yo-so-mite ? :)
  126. # [15:50] <@MarcoZ> slee: Depends on the speech synth you're using. :P
  127. # [15:51] <@MarcoZ> slee: Well I have not yet found that on-screen braille keyboard. It may not be available on the iPad, I don't know, haven't put it on my iPhone.
  128. # [15:51] <slee> I always thought it was the latter - Was embarrassed when I heard it being spoken.
  129. # [15:51] <@MarcoZ> slee: So my guess is that this refers to the on-screen keyboard that is normally visible, and hidden when a braille display is connected to the iOS device that has a braille keyboard of its own, like the Freedom Scientific Focus Blue displays do.
  130. # [15:52] <slee> MarcoZ: Sounds plausible.
  131. # [15:53] <slee> MarcoZ: bug 1018385
  132. # [15:53] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1018385 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, [Flatfish] Update Gaia using 'make install-gaia' produce empty Homescreen
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  135. # [15:55] <@MarcoZ> slee: Yeah this still seems like a lot under construction.
  136. # [15:55] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
  137. # [15:56] <@davidb> hi!
  138. # [15:56] <@davidb> heyo
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  142. # [15:56] <slee> davidb: yo
  143. # [15:57] <@davidb> hi slee
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  150. # [16:16] <@MarcoZ> yzen: slee: Just tried it: The On-Screen Keyboard setting indeed controls whether the standard keyboard is being shown or not by default when the braille display also has a braille keyboard of its own.
  151. # [16:16] <@MarcoZ> davidb|afk: What're you using now?
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  154. # [16:35] <@davidb> MarcoZ, currently "Textual"
  155. # [16:36] <@MarcoZ> Ah OK
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  161. # [16:39] <@yzen> MarcoZ care to join #l10n , we are discussing some l10n issues for screen readers
  162. # [16:51] <@MarcoZ> yzen: OK!
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  170. # [17:44] <@MarcoZ> Ugh, Gaia tree closure.
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  176. # [17:57] * tbsaunde hungers
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  178. # [18:05] <@davidb> tbsaunde, oops I didn't see you at your desk when i stepped out for falafel
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  180. # [18:06] <tbsaunde> davidb: no worries
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  191. # [19:20] <firebot> yfdyh000@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1019110 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  192. # [19:20] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1019110 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ContentEditor Keyboard ShortCuts Not Working
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  196. # [19:41] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Component on bug 1019432 from Graphics, Panning and Zooming to Disability Access APIs.
  197. # [19:41] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Product on bug 1019432 from Firefox for Android to Core.
  198. # [19:41] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1019432 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [AccessFu] Zooming doesn't work with TalkBack enabled
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  209. # [20:45] <firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 454520.
  210. # [20:45] <firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 454520 from --- to FIXED.
  211. # [20:45] <firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 454520 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
  212. # [20:46] <firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 454520 from --- to Firefox 32.
  213. # [20:46] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454520 nor, --, Firefox 32, gijskruitbosch+bugs, RESO FIXED, Caret Browsing confirmation dialog ([F7]) should have "NO" as the default value
  214. # [20:47] <firebot> mmucci@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 454520 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
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  227. # [21:18] <@yzen> eeejay hey
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  232. # [22:07] <firebot> bugmail.mozilla@staktrace.com changed the Component on bug 1019425 from Graphics, Panning and Zooming to Disability Access APIs.
  233. # [22:07] <firebot> bugmail.mozilla@staktrace.com changed the Product on bug 1019425 from Firefox for Android to Core.
  234. # [22:07] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1019425 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, When TalkBack is suspended, Firefox partially behaves as if it isn't
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  236. # [22:39] <@davidb> tbsaunde, PMed ya
  237. # [22:43] <@davidb> surkov you too :)
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