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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jul 11 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  29. # [09:17] <@MarcoZ> Morning all!
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  37. # [13:53] <@MarcoZ> Good day all!
  38. # [14:00] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) on bug 1034978.
  39. # [14:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1034978 — NEW — crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame()
  40. # [14:00] <@surkov> hey, MarcoZ!
  41. # [14:00] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com on bug 1034978.
  42. # [14:00] <@MarcoZ> Hi surkov!
  43. # [14:15] <@MarcoZ> F*ck, cannot reproduce the crash now when it used to happen to me all morning! :(
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  52. # [15:25] <@davidb> heyo!
  53. # [15:36] <@MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
  54. # [15:36] <@MarcoZ> Good morning yzen! :)
  55. # [15:36] <@davidb> hi hi
  56. # [15:36] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
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  58. # [15:40] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Cool seeing people working on accessibility bugs in Gaia, isn't it?
  59. # [15:40] <@yzen> MarcoZ yes! but i have a worry'
  60. # [15:41] <@yzen> it seems like the mentor flag is completely ignored and we might find 'fixes' getting into master without complete testing
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  62. # [15:44] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Ouch!
  63. # [15:48] <@MarcoZ> yzen: How can we move this in the right direction so people don't get in the habit?
  64. # [15:49] <@yzen> MarcoZ well we have 2 things, mentor field and a11y-review flag, i feel like a11y-review has to be + before any of a11y bugs are landed
  65. # [15:50] <@davidb> soft admonition comments right in the bug when there are infractions is the norm.
  66. # [15:50] <@davidb> alternatively email directly
  67. # [15:51] <@davidb> the problem is common. e.g. for engineers that fix security bugs infrequently... it is extremely common for them to forget the security landing process
  68. # [15:52] <@davidb> the main thing is to make it not scary to ask us process questions everytime if necessary
  69. # [15:52] <@davidb> (which hasn't always been historically true for sec)
  70. # [15:56] <@MarcoZ> Yeah, don't scare them, but make it clear that we need to take a look at these patches.
  71. # [15:58] <@yzen> alright
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  73. # [16:00] <@davidb> YOU IDIOT YOU WORKED ON AN ACCESSIBILITY BUG AND FAILED!
  74. # [16:01] <@MarcoZ> :D
  75. # [16:01] <@yzen> ill put it in whiteboard
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  86. # [16:38] <@surkov> MarcoZ: where is video’s iframe settings?
  87. # [16:38] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Click on "Einstellungen" in the iframe, and there you'll find the "Videoformat" either "Flash or "HTML".
  88. # [16:39] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Set to HTML.
  89. # [16:41] <@surkov> MarcoZ: there’s no Einstellungen on the page
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  92. # [16:49] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Hm, if there is a video, and in the link I provided, there should be, there is something like a play/pause button, a Mute button, and right next or below it there should be a Settings button. Don't know how else to describe it.
  93. # [16:49] <@MarcoZ> It is near the text that says "Projektor..."
  94. # [16:50] <@surkov> oh, it’s on the video, I do see settings button but I don’t see videoformat there
  95. # [16:51] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Hm, I see it. I had to click Play once to get all the controls.
  96. # [16:52] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Perhaps if you don't have Flash installed, this format setting is not available.
  97. # [16:52] <@surkov> ah, so I should be good
  98. # [16:52] <@MarcoZ> Yup.
  99. # [16:53] <@surkov> ok, trying
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  101. # [16:54] <@surkov> MarcoZ, it doesn’t crash for me
  102. # [16:54] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Unfortunately it doesn't crash always.
  103. # [16:54] <@MarcoZ> surkov: But regularly for me.
  104. # [16:55] <@MarcoZ> And always with similar reports.
  105. # [16:56] <@surkov> ok, got it
  106. # [16:56] <@surkov> I’ll try more
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  110. # [17:21] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) on bug 1034978.
  111. # [17:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1034978 — NEW — crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame() called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::BGColorTextAttr::Get
  112. # [17:23] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I'm 30 minutes away from two weeks vacation. Can you take care of the bug?
  113. # [17:24] <@surkov> MarcoZ: I wouldn’t like to add extra checks just in case, so I’d be cool if you played with it
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  115. # [17:24] <@surkov> I mean add one check to see if it helps
  116. # [17:24] <@surkov> if not then add anotehr check and see
  117. # [17:25] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Then it'll have to wait. Don't feel like playing with it during my vacation.
  118. # [17:25] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Besides, I can't run debug builds with a screen reader well anyway, keeps freezing on me.
  119. # [17:25] <@MarcoZ> surkov: So a real improvement would probably only be visible in a release build for me.
  120. # [17:25] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yeah, second screen reader doesn’t help here?
  121. # [17:26] <@surkov> MarcoZ: it doesn’t look this is very often crash, right?
  122. # [17:26] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Nope, would only make things worse since they'd then battle over the keyboard and other system resources.
  123. # [17:26] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I saw it frequently over the past week or so.
  124. # [17:26] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Started happening suddenly, when I filed the bug initially.
  125. # [17:26] <@surkov> I just don’t see lot of reports
  126. # [17:27] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I now disabled all plugins, since often, PluginContainer also crashed along with it. I will watch during my vacation if the crashes happen again, then.
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  128. # [17:27] <@surkov> ok
  129. # [17:28] <@surkov> MarcoZ, PluginContainer shouldn’t be created for HTML version, no?
  130. # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> surkov: No, but if Flash is available, the Tagesschau video player defaults to it at first.
  131. # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> surkov: So before one switches to HTML, it already initializes the Flash plugin.
  132. # [17:30] <@surkov> I see, maybe that’s a reason why I cannot reproduce
  133. # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Maybe!
  134. # [17:31] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Also, other tabs may initialize it, too. Flash is still a wide-spread plague.
  135. # [17:31] <@surkov> yeah
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  139. # [18:01] <@MarcoZ> OK, see you in two weeks everyone!
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