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- # Session Start: Fri Aug 01 00:00:00 2014
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
- # [00:13] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1047076 filed by wmccloskey@mozilla.com.
- # [00:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1047076 — NEW, wmccloskey — Disable e10s if screen reader is installed
- # [01:07] <yash_> eeejay: hey, you there?
- # [01:07] <eeejay> yash_, hi
- # [01:08] <yash_> eeejay: I talked with TimAbraldes regarding the try fail, he suggested to talk with the the #build people
- # [01:09] <eeejay> yash_, great
- # [01:10] <yash_> But, It's taking a lot more than expected time
- # [01:10] <yash_> eeejay: and yeah, I have started working for the Mac also.
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- # [01:21] <eeejay> yash_, great!
- # [01:22] <yash_> eeejay: Did you try the patch on your local system, if that's possible?
- # [01:22] <eeejay> yash_, i don't have a win dev machine to build it on. i am relying on try :P
- # [01:23] <yash_> eeejay: oh
- # [01:24] <yash_> eeejay: actually, the code review is also getting delayed due to this.
- # [01:24] <eeejay> yash_, yes. correct. it will need to build on try before we send this for review
- # [01:25] <yash_> eeejay: hmm..that's why I started for mac while this is going on.
- # [01:26] <eeejay> yash_, ok. that sounds good. let me know when you resolve something. i'll take another look at the windows patch tomorrow for feedback (without actual testing)
- # [01:27] <yash_> eeejay: Sure.
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- # [05:14] <@firebot> alive@mozilla.com requested needinfo from yzenevich@mozilla.com on bug 1030465.
- # [05:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1030465 — NEW, yzenevich — [AccessFu] Volume change should update the screen reader volume.
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- # [14:58] <@davidb> heyo
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- # [15:26] <@tbsaunde> heya
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- # [15:37] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(yzenevich@mozilla.com) on bug 1030465.
- # [15:37] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1030465 — NEW, yzenevich — [AccessFu] Volume change should update the screen reader volume.
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- # [15:49] <@MarcoZ> Good day tbsaunde, davidb, yzen, surkov! :)
- # [15:50] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
- # [15:51] <@davidb> hi hi hi hi hi
- # [15:51] <@davidb> yzen, linux caffe closed right?
- # [15:51] <@davidb> a while ago?
- # [15:51] <@yzen> yeah
- # [15:51] <@davidb> what is there now?
- # [15:52] <@yzen> the original owner's nephew took over and basically revamped it into something uninteresting
- # [15:52] <@davidb> boo
- # [15:52] <@yzen> yeah
- # [15:53] <@surkov> hey, MarcoZ!
- # [15:58] <@yzen> MarcoZ question for you about this bug 1030405
- # [15:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1030405 — NEW — Dialer phone number text area should not say entry.
- # [15:59] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yes?
- # [16:00] <@yzen> MarcoZ i was just comparing how things are announced with VO
- # [16:00] <@yzen> MarcoZ main difference is that we *always* announce the role
- # [16:00] <@yzen> MarcoZ i wonder if we can be smarter about it accessfu
- # [16:01] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I totally missed when this bug was filed, and was wondering who thought it wrong that the role be announced here. After all it is an entry field where a number is being input.
- # [16:01] <@yzen> MarcoZ eeejay thought it's confusing because it's readonly
- # [16:01] <@MarcoZ> It isn't. You tap on it, and you have a keyboard that changes it, right? It's just that it is a number pad.
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- # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> yzen: ^
- # [16:05] <@yzen> MarcoZ not in the phone app, in the phone app the keypad is present always , and the phone entry just displays it
- # [16:05] <@MarcoZ> Yes but conceptually, a keypad changes the contents of another field. So in a strict sense, this is still an entry field. :)
- # [16:06] <@MarcoZ> yzen: ^
- # [16:06] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I don't see much difference to other fields, only that there is a regular keyboard with these other fields.
- # [16:15] <@yzen> MarcoZ right
- # [16:16] <@yzen> so i think it should be resolved as invalid then, MarcoZ , but do we want to report it's readonly ?
- # [16:17] <@yzen> MarcoZ i think entry makes sense especially when we ll have the ability to copy/paste the number in there ?
- # [16:33] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yes I think this bug is invalid. :)
- # [16:33] <@yzen> ok
- # [16:39] <@yzen> MarcoZ and regarding the read only state ?
- # [16:46] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Hm, you could try overriding with aria-readonly="false" and see if that wins. Not sure if the priority is still aria over native in this regard.
- # [16:46] <@MarcoZ> Or let me see if that is the correct attribute...
- # [16:47] <@yzen> MarcoZ sorry what i meant was if accessfu should report dead only state, atm it does not
- # [16:47] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Yes, correct attribute: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-readonly
- # [16:48] <@MarcoZ> yzen: I think AccessFu should report read-only states of editables, yes.
- # [16:48] <@yzen> ok
- # [16:48] <@yzen> ill file a bug
- # [16:48] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Not all elements, since by default all text leafs and other stuff are, but editable text fields and entries etc. should have read-only reported if it is present.
- # [16:48] <@yzen> ya i m gonna file for text area and entry
- # [16:50] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1047428 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
- # [16:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1047428 — NEW — [AccessFu] Report read only state for editables.
- # [17:05] <@firebot> mmucci@mozilla.com granted firefox-backlog on bug 1043372.
- # [17:05] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1043372 — NEW — Figure out keyboard-accessible alternative for the webrtc global indicator
- # [17:14] <@MarcoZ> 50 minutes till meeting X.
- # [17:17] <@davidb> who is taking point? eeejay called the meeting IIRC so probably should run it?
- # [17:18] <@MarcoZ> I think he will be.
- # [17:18] <@davidb> ok
- # [17:18] * @davidb steps out of the way
- # [17:18] <@MarcoZ> Probably he and yzen in tandem.
- # [17:18] <@davidb> ack
- # [17:20] <@tbsaunde> arg I hate software
- # [17:20] <eeejay> davidb, yeah
- # [17:21] <eeejay> yzen, where is does the -moz-element element live?
- # [17:21] <@yzen> eeejay https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/system/style/app_titlebar.css#L10
- # [17:23] <eeejay> thanks
- # [17:27] <eeejay> yzen, MarcoZ, is there a bug open yet for the software home button?
- # [17:28] <@MarcoZ> eeejayNot sure.
- # [17:28] <@yzen> eeejay I m fixing it :)
- # [17:28] <@yzen> right this moment
- # [17:28] <@yzen> didnt open yet
- # [17:28] <eeejay> good thing i asked!
- # [17:28] <@yzen> hehe
- # [17:29] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: yzen: It is surprising that, after so many visibility fixes, such new widgets still are being implemented wrong.
- # [17:29] <@MarcoZ> And dismal.
- # [17:29] <@MarcoZ> Sometimes makes one feel like all one does is preach to walls.
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- # [17:29] <@yzen> MarcoZ yeah, but i m writing a test to go along with it so at least we wont regress there
- # [17:30] <@MarcoZ> yzen: +1000
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- # [17:59] <@davidb> have a nice meeting guys
- # [18:00] <@MarcoZ> Thanks!
- # [18:01] <eeejay> davidb, thanks! you could join too
- # [18:01] <@davidb> got a conflict
- # [18:01] <@davidb> keep me in reserves :)
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- # [18:36] <eeejay> not too bad..
- # [18:37] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: So what's that deal with the small and bigger status bar?
- # [18:37] <eeejay> MarcoZ, i think it kind of expands and contracts when you start scrolling down
- # [18:37] <@MarcoZ> Oh...Like the dynamic thingies in mobile browsers nowadays that only pop out when on the first or last screen of a page.
- # [18:39] <@MarcoZ> OK...I trust you guys on this one! I'll go off into my weekend now! Have a great extra day off, Toronto peeps!
- # [18:39] <eeejay> MarcoZ, thanks for sticking around. have a good weekend!
- # [18:40] <@MarcoZ> Thanks eeejay, you too!
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- # [18:48] <eeejay> yzen, not too bad, right?
- # [18:49] <@yzen> eeejay ya was thinking separate elements can work for us
- # [18:49] <eeejay> yzen, that with some aria-labelledby should do the trick
- # [18:50] <@yzen> yeah
- # [18:54] <@davidb> or aria-proxyfor :)
- # [18:59] <@davidb> aria-imageelementproxyhack
- # [18:59] <@davidb> hi maxli
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- # [19:54] <slee> davidb: ping
- # [19:54] <@davidb> slee, pong
- # [19:54] <slee> davidb: can I ask a general bugzilla q?
- # [19:55] <slee> So I created bug Bug 1047341 and now want to resolve it fixed
- # [19:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1047341 — UNCONFIRMED — [flatfish] Tablet not being seen by Ubuntu 12.04 when hotplugging
- # [19:55] <slee> but it wont let me do that. Perhaps as is unconfirmed
- # [19:55] <slee> what can I do?
- # [19:55] <slee> davidb: ^^
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- # [19:56] * slee how rude
- # [19:58] <@yzen> :)
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- # [19:59] <@yzen> slee it's probably a permission problem
- # [19:59] * @davidb shakes fist at internet connection
- # [19:59] <@davidb> slee, try again.
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- # [19:59] <slee> davidb: actually I leave it open as I thnk the hardware DOES have a problem.
- # [20:00] <slee> just adding comments
- # [20:00] <@davidb> ok well anyways, you now have the power, and the great responsibility
- # [20:01] <@davidb> (how on earth did you not already have it)
- # [20:01] <slee> davidb: ooooh lots of options now!!!!!
- # [20:01] <slee> dunno
- # [20:01] <slee> davidb: PS did you see my email about the new vouching?
- # [20:02] <@davidb> slee, yes I PMed you but not sure if i had a connection then
- # [20:02] <@davidb> do you see a private msg?
- # [20:02] <slee> no
- # [20:02] <@davidb> solved.
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- # [21:09] <@yzen> eeejay ping
- # [21:09] <eeejay> yzen, pong
- # [21:11] <@yzen> eeejay nvm :)
- # [21:11] <eeejay> :)
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