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  47. # [14:57] <@davidb> heyo!
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  56. # [15:32] <@MarcoZ> Yay! Toronto I'm in you!
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  63. # [16:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 764757.
  64. # [16:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/764757 — NEW — NVDA announces incorrect number of items when display:inline-block; is used
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  66. # [16:21] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro requested needinfo from gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com on bug 962007.
  67. # [16:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/962007 — FIXED, gijskruitbosch+bugs — Accesskeys don't let you activate the click-to-play "Allow Now" and "Allow and Remember" buttons
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  76. # [17:25] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from paul.silaghi@softvision.ro on bug 962007.
  77. # [17:25] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/962007 — FIXED, gijskruitbosch+bugs — Accesskeys don't let you activate the click-to-play "Allow Now" and "Allow and Remember" buttons
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  80. # [17:41] <@davidb> http://www.html5accessibility.com/tests/hidden.html
  81. # [17:42] <@surkov> crazy idea, what if keep aria-hidden subtree unattached from main tree, if something inside aria-hidden subtree gets focused then you get into subtree
  82. # [17:42] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro cancelled needinfo?(paul.silaghi@softvision.ro) on bug 962007.
  83. # [17:42] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro changed the Status on bug 962007 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  84. # [17:42] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro set status-firefox34 to verified on bug 962007.
  85. # [17:42] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/962007 — FIXED, gijskruitbosch+bugs — Accesskeys don't let you activate the click-to-play "Allow Now" and "Allow and Remember" buttons
  86. # [17:42] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1051882 filed by paul.silaghi@softvision.ro.
  87. # [17:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1051882 — NEW — [Linux] Accesskeys don't let you activate the CTP doorhanger buttons
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  89. # [17:46] <Jamie> joanie: roughly distilled Google Spreadsheets test case: data:text/html,<div><textarea aria-hidden="true"></textarea></div>
  90. # [17:47] <joanie> surkov: I think that might work. And a children-changed and/or text-changed to alert ATs
  91. # [17:48] <@surkov> joanie: ok, perhaps it’s the way to go then
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  93. # [17:50] <Jamie> That could work for some cases, but I'd argue it *shouldn't* be accessible from the rest of the tree; i.e. you can get to ancestors, but you can't get to that ree via children
  94. # [17:50] <Jamie> Also, it doesn't cover the Google test case, where they *want* the textarea *not* to get focus as far as AT is concerned
  95. # [17:51] <@surkov> do they want the browser to move the focus somewhere or do they want the browser lies to AT?
  96. # [17:52] <@surkov> not sure I get about “accessible from the rest of tree"
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  98. # [17:52] <Jamie> lie to AT
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  100. # [17:53] <@surkov> yeah, they create the browser and web :)
  101. # [17:53] <@surkov> the problem is keyboard navigation gets inconsistent with a11y focus
  102. # [17:53] <Jamie> surkov: that's author error. the only concern here is defining the fail behaviour
  103. # [17:54] <@surkov> wasn’t it intentional?
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  105. # [17:57] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from paul.silaghi@softvision.ro on bug 1051882.
  106. # [17:57] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1051882 — NEW — [Linux] Accesskeys don't let you activate the CTP doorhanger buttons
  107. # [17:58] <Jamie> <img src="foo.png">Headline</img><h1><a href="bar">Headline</a></h1>
  108. # [17:59] <Jamie> sorry, I mean: <img src="foo.png" alt="Headline"><h1><a href="bar">Headline</a></h1>
  109. # [18:00] <Jamie> third time maybe? <a href="foo"><img src="Headline"></a><h1><a href="foo">Headline</a></h1>
  110. # [18:01] <Jamie> <a aria-hidden="true" href="foo"><img src="Headline"></a><h1><a href="foo">Headline</a></h1>
  111. # [18:01] <Jamie> <a tabindex="-1" href="foo"><img src="Headline"></a><h1><a href="foo">Headline</a></h1>
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  113. # [18:22] <@MarcoZ> aria-hidden captures all. Even a demo of Firefox OS devices. ;)
  114. # [18:22] <@MarcoZ> I should tweet that.
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  119. # [18:58] <@davidb> tbsaunde, do you have power now?
  120. # [18:59] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yes
  121. # [19:00] <@tbsaunde> though of course rebooting is a pain
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  126. # [19:00] <@davidb> ideally that wouldn't be necessary
  127. # [19:00] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, but I ran out of power so...
  128. # [19:01] <@davidb> ah
  129. # [19:01] <@tbsaunde> I got close to 2 months of uptime so I can't really complain
  130. # [19:04] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1052000 filed by jdiggs@igalia.com.
  131. # [19:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052000 — NEW — atk_text_get_text_at_offset sometimes returns more than one line when asking for the line at offset
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  137. # [19:40] <Jamie> a<span role="button">b</a>c
  138. # [19:40] <Jamie> damn it
  139. # [19:40] <Jamie> a<span role="button">b</span>c
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  142. # [19:50] <Jamie> This is a <a href="foo">link</a> and this text is <b>bolded</b>
  143. # [19:55] <Jamie> surkov: <p>This is a</p><p>test blah blah</p>. The user selects "This is a test"
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  148. # [20:25] <Jamie> <p><span>a<a>b</a>c</span></p>
  149. # [20:27] <Jamie> <p><span onClick="foo">a<a>b</a>c</span></p>
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  151. # [20:35] <@eeejay> yash_. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3f18984861fa
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  153. # [20:54] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1052054 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  154. # [20:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052054 — NEW — [AccessFu] Rename accessfu-output event to accessibility-output
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  156. # [21:04] <@davidb> joanie: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/windows/msaa/Compatibility.h#60
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  169. # [22:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from jamie@nvaccess.org on bug 764757.
  170. # [22:20] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/764757 — NEW — NVDA announces incorrect number of items when display:inline-block; is used
  171. # [22:21] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 1050926.
  172. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1050926 from --- to FIXED.
  173. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1050926 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  174. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1050926 from --- to mozilla34.
  175. # [22:22] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1050926 — FIXED, yzenevich — [AccessFu] Take into account aria-hidden when generating the name from subtree.
  176. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 1020548.
  177. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1020548 from --- to FIXED.
  178. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1020548 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  179. # [22:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1020548 from --- to mozilla34.
  180. # [22:22] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1020548 — FIXED, surkov.alexander — update aria-orientation impl to ARIA 1.1
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  182. # [22:26] <Jamie> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5932098
  183. # [22:32] <@surkov> Jamie: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/base/TextRange.h#52
  184. # [22:47] <Jamie> surkov: The problem re using the UIA interface is that UIA clients access UIA via the UIA client API. That API exposes IUIAutomationTextRange
  185. # [22:48] <@surkov> Jamie: ok
  186. # [22:51] <Jamie> surkov: however, to support UIA on the server side, you would implement ITextRangeProvider
  187. # [22:54] <@surkov> anyway it’s just implementation detail on our side, we can have separate classes for these two interfaces
  188. # [22:54] <@surkov> but if TextRangeProvider is what we need plus couple more methods then we could end up with ITextRangeProvider2_IA2 :)
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  196. # [23:06] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1052122 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  197. # [23:06] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052122 — NEW — derecursify TreeWalker::NextChild
  198. # [23:09] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1052124 filed by mhabicher@mozilla.com.
  199. # [23:09] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052124 — NEW — Add support for OpenBCI
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  203. # [23:16] <@surkov> tbsaunde: about bug 1052122, why array is better?
  204. # [23:16] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052122 — NEW — derecursify TreeWalker::NextChild
  205. # [23:17] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1052133 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  206. # [23:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1052133 — NEW — [AccessFu] Speak the current value of a closed combobox
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