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  1. # Session Start: Wed Aug 27 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  11. # [02:15] <eeejay> hey accessibility ners
  12. # [02:15] <eeejay> nerds
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  14. # [02:54] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1059020 filed by jruderman@gmail.com.
  15. # [02:54] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1059020 — NEW, jruderman — "ASSERTION: bad size recorded" with accessibility, Notification
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  23. # [04:01] <@firebot> masayuki@d-toybox.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1058423.
  24. # [04:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1058423 — NEW — Hangs up at loading Ohloh Code Search
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  33. # [05:33] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1059059 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  34. # [05:33] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1059059 — NEW — [AccessFu] Don't blur entry after focus autoMove
  35. # [05:35] <@yzen> eeejay still up ?
  36. # [05:36] <eeejay> yzen, :)
  37. # [05:36] <eeejay> yzen, more an issue for you
  38. # [05:36] <@yzen> yeah :)
  39. # [05:36] <eeejay> yzen, i'm using your aria-hidden patches here. they resolve a lot of issues
  40. # [05:37] <@yzen> eeejay awesome :) , i m about to update hopefully for the last time the c++ part
  41. # [05:37] <eeejay> ool
  42. # [05:37] <eeejay> c
  43. # [05:38] <@yzen> eeejay have you seen that transition issue at all ?
  44. # [05:38] <eeejay> yzen, STR?
  45. # [05:39] <@yzen> str?
  46. # [05:41] <eeejay> yzen, steps to reproduce
  47. # [05:41] <@yzen> eeejay oh right :) if you go to contacts -> setting (from header) then Done
  48. # [05:42] <@yzen> see if your vc jumps and the screen shifts
  49. # [05:42] <eeejay> crap yeah
  50. # [05:42] <eeejay> yzen, need to try it without your patches..
  51. # [05:42] <eeejay> looks like there is a focus before the transition ends or something
  52. # [05:43] <eeejay> yzen, also, this is the new gaia-header component afaik
  53. # [05:43] <@yzen> yes i only started seeing it with gaia-header
  54. # [05:43] <@yzen> earlier today (with my patches) they worked just fine
  55. # [05:44] <@yzen> eeejay^
  56. # [05:44] <eeejay> i see
  57. # [05:44] <@yzen> as if maybe there's a visibility transition delay or something
  58. # [05:45] <eeejay> yeah
  59. # [05:46] <@yzen> i think 2.2 should be a big web-components a11y spring
  60. # [05:46] <@yzen> sprint
  61. # [05:47] <@yzen> eeejay what do you think ?
  62. # [05:51] <eeejay> yzen, definitely
  63. # [05:51] <eeejay> yzen, i want to see the building blocks die so badly
  64. # [05:51] <eeejay> with all the role selectors
  65. # [05:51] <eeejay> everytime i makes something a button, it messes with the styling
  66. # [05:51] <@yzen> eeejay tell me about it my new pet peeve is handling of visibility for clear button based on css :active :)
  67. # [05:52] <@yzen> in entries
  68. # [05:52] <eeejay> *sigh*
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  70. # [07:08] <Jamie> hmm. any idea why when I run this command "./mach mochitest-browser browser/devtools/webconsole/test" it just says running 0 tests and runs... well... no tests?
  71. # [07:09] <eeejay> sounds consistent
  72. # [07:09] <Jamie> right, but undesirable
  73. # [07:09] <Jamie> mochitest documentation is somewhat lacking... :)
  74. # [07:10] <eeejay> Jamie, those arent mochitests
  75. # [07:11] <Jamie> ug.
  76. # [07:12] * Jamie hunts
  77. # [07:12] <eeejay> maybe they are xpcshell tests. dunno
  78. # [07:12] <Jamie> problem is I can't find any documentation on what tests are what
  79. # [07:13] <Jamie> nm. I'll ask on the relevant bug
  80. # [07:13] <Jamie> thanks anyway :)
  81. # [07:13] <Jamie> they same to be using mochitest style ok, is, etc. functions, which is why I thought they were mochitests, but I suppose lots of tests do that
  82. # [07:14] <Jamie> s/same/seem/
  83. # [07:16] <Jamie> actually, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Browser_chrome_tests, they are mochitests after all
  84. # [07:16] <Jamie> but slightly different... or something...
  85. # [07:24] <Jamie> screw it, I've wasted way too much time on this already :)
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  108. # [09:51] <@MarcoZ> Good day all!
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  116. # [10:35] <@MarcoZ> Jamie: Hi! Great work on the web console! Let me know if you need any more help beyond what was already provided in the latest comment to bug 977267. :)
  117. # [10:35] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/977267 — ASSIGNED, jamie — [a11y] autocomplete suggestions not visible in screen reader
  118. # [10:35] <@MarcoZ> Can Firefox OS please stop being a minefield at least for *one* day? :/
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  137. # [11:42] <trekkme> may i copy and paste a few more lines from an email in here
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  140. # [12:22] <@MarcoZ> trekkme: What for?
  141. # [12:26] <trekkme> asking a question not tzping it all over again...
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  149. # [13:37] <trekkme> maybe you are able to help me, mozilla accessibility list and esr list don't seem to.
  150. # [13:37] <trekkme> firefox has its own build in high contrast theme (including website rendering, which is the important part for me) which activates when the operating system is set to high contrast.
  151. # [13:37] <trekkme> this works (exept for ff31, bug is fixed) quite well on windows machines. i have not been able to put firefox into high contrast mode under linux.
  152. # [13:37] <trekkme> so i have two questions:
  153. # [13:37] <trekkme> is it possible to set a flag somewhere in firefox or its files to activate that mode manually?
  154. # [13:37] <trekkme> or what do i have to do to the operating system so it tells firefox to go into that high contrast mode?
  155. # [13:37] <trekkme> atm. i'm trying this whith wheezy/xfce.
  156. # [13:37] <trekkme> thank you so much in advance for helping, this feature made the web actually usable for me since my progressing RP ...
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  161. # [13:54] <Jamie> MarcoZ: think I'm good. working on the testing at the moment; think I'm just about ready to submit a new patch
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  164. # [14:03] <@MarcoZ> trekkme: Thanks! Sorry to hear that! I'm unfortunately the wrong person to ask. I am totally blind, so cannot even tell if high contrast mode is on or not on any operating system, and Linux is not my strong side. Perhaps joanie can help with this, she is the lead Orca developer and a heavy Gnome/Linux user.
  165. # [14:03] <@MarcoZ> trekkme: However, she is not really awake yet, being on the East coast of the U.S., and 6 hours behind Germany.
  166. # [14:06] <@MarcoZ> Jamie: Yay, another TB a11y bug landed! Took them over a week to get the tree back in order! Yikes...
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  169. # [14:10] <Jamie> MarcoZ: yeah. wish I could figure out that silly XUL tree issue, but I think that one is beyond my current Mozilla hacking capabilities
  170. # [14:10] <Jamie> I sort of understand what's going on, but don't know the XUL tree code well enough to attempt a fix
  171. # [14:10] <Jamie> woot! all tests passed
  172. # [14:11] <Jamie> patch time :)
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  179. # [14:43] <Jamie> MarcoZ: arrrg. I got a bit overzealous with my indentation trimming :)
  180. # [14:43] <Jamie> MarcoZ: the end of the function si actually incorrect too. that's running over from the previous line
  181. # [14:43] <Jamie> MarcoZ: that does lead me to ask, though: what do you do in Mozilla code when you ahve to wrap a function call? indenting up to the function name would be pretty silly here
  182. # [14:44] <Jamie> MarcoZ: that'd result in like... 40 spaces of indentatin ro something
  183. # [14:48] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1057304 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  184. # [14:48] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1057304 from --- to mozilla34.
  185. # [14:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1057304 — FIXED, eitan — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessContentInserted(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsTArray<n
  186. # [14:48] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-b2g-v2.1 to fixed on bug 1055004.
  187. # [14:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1055004 — FIXED, eitan — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTree(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*, bool)
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  192. # [14:56] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1058423.
  193. # [14:56] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1058423 — NEW — Hangs up at loading Ohloh Code Search
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  196. # [14:58] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from tabraldes@mozilla.com on bug 1041070.
  197. # [14:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1041070 — ASSIGNED, tabraldes — Update `CacheChildren` and `ShutdownChildrenInSubtree` to avoid locking up main thread
  198. # [15:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from trev.saunders@gmail.com on bug 1055004.
  199. # [15:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1055004 — FIXED, eitan — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTree(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*, bool)
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  214. # [15:33] <@davidb> heyo
  215. # [15:37] <@yzen> MarcoZ have you heard anything from vivien ?
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  217. # [15:43] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Nope, nothing.
  218. # [15:44] <@yzen> probably just back
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  224. # [16:08] <@davidb> surkov, tbsaunde, hopefully Tim can pick bug 1041070 back up, but he is also working on e10s AFAIK...
  225. # [16:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1041070 — ASSIGNED, tabraldes — Update `CacheChildren` and `ShutdownChildrenInSubtree` to avoid locking up main thread
  226. # [16:12] <@tbsaunde> davidb: well, if I work on it I won't be doing e10ns stuff tehn either
  227. # [16:13] <@davidb> yeah, well let's see what Tim says
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  229. # [16:26] <@yzen> MarcoZ pmed you
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  231. # [16:33] <@yzen> tbsaunde done with the revision of my patch, let me know if that's what you wanted :)
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  244. # [17:24] <@yzen> tbsaunde thanks!
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  249. # [17:30] <@davidb> MarcoZ, what do people do for all the images floating around twitter and facebook that are basically text?
  250. # [17:34] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(trev.saunders@gmail.com) on bug 1055004.
  251. # [17:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1055004 — FIXED, eitan — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTree(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*, bool)
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  254. # [17:50] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Find a kind soul who transcribes or reads it to them, or try to OCR them somehow. Or ignore them.
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  260. # [18:12] <@MarcoZ> Why is it that "we'l land the new layout" has a scary tone to it?
  261. # [18:13] <@MarcoZ> Because I'm now going offline. ;) See you tomorrow!
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  267. # [18:43] <@davidb> moving parts
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