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  20. # [01:56] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1075253 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  21. # [01:56] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1075253 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu] Consecutive taps should only emit one gesture
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  74. # [11:04] <@firebot> photoart@online.no cancelled needinfo?(photoart@online.no) on bug 1073961.
  75. # [11:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1073961 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Single key shortcuts prevent typing with the assigned keys
  76. # [11:14] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from ttaubert@mozilla.com on bug 1073961.
  77. # [11:14] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1073961 from --- to INVALID.
  78. # [11:15] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1073961 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  79. # [11:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1073961 — INVALID, nobody@mozilla.org — Single key shortcuts prevent typing with the assigned keys
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  102. # [14:46] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 982842 from FIXED to ---.
  103. # [14:46] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 982842 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  104. # [14:46] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/982842 — REOPENED, trev.saunders@gmail.com — implement very basic support of OOp accessible documents
  105. # [14:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1067509 from --- to FIXED.
  106. # [14:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1067509 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  107. # [14:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1067509 from --- to mozilla35.
  108. # [14:57] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1067509 — FIXED, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu] Refactor content tests.
  109. # [15:02] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com requested needinfo from maxli@maxli.ca on bug 980510.
  110. # [15:02] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/980510 — FIXED, maxli@maxli.ca — [AccessFu] After moving by granularity, swiping to next object brings up current object.
  111. # [15:03] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox-esr to unaffected on bug 1061671.
  112. # [15:04] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox33 to unaffected on bug 1061671.
  113. # [15:04] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox34 to affected on bug 1061671.
  114. # [15:04] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox35 to fixed on bug 1061671.
  115. # [15:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1061671 — FIXED, eitan@monotonous.org — Intermittent test_content_integration.html | spoken: ["wow",{"string":"headingLevel","args":[1]},"su
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  118. # [15:05] <@firebot> ttaubert@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(ttaubert@mozilla.com) on bug 1073961.
  119. # [15:05] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1073961 — INVALID, nobody@mozilla.org — Single key shortcuts prevent typing with the assigned keys
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  124. # [15:20] <@davidb> heyo
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  126. # [15:35] <@yzen> 1 sec im gonna start a build
  127. # [15:36] <@davidb> ack
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  131. # [16:19] <slee> yzen: ping
  132. # [16:31] <slee> yzen: ping-a-ling
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  135. # [16:39] <@yzen> slee pong
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  137. # [16:44] <slee> yzen I have the screen reader working now. A few crashes but I don't think they are my work
  138. # [16:44] <@yzen> nice yeah there are some issues i m seeing with builds too
  139. # [16:44] <slee> however I can;t find where the speech "screen reader started" and "stopped" comes form. I've foudn the localised ID but have search all the code form when is used.
  140. # [16:44] <slee> *from
  141. # [16:45] <slee> yzen: I'm wondering if it comes from outside the screen reader code I'm looking at? Any clues?
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  143. # [16:47] <@yzen> slee https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/system/js/accessibility.js#L350-L356
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  145. # [16:47] <@yzen> slee oh yes started stop ones come from gecko
  146. # [16:48] <slee> yzen: thats the up down steps
  147. # [16:49] <@yzen> slee yes, the started/stopped ones come from gecko
  148. # [16:50] <slee> yzen: ahah
  149. # [16:50] <@yzen> for example, slee , https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/master/accessible/jsat/AccessFu.jsm#L139
  150. # [16:50] <@yzen> but that will probably change
  151. # [16:51] <slee> aha. I had a grep fail.
  152. # [16:52] <slee> wish I could debug. Is there way to debog on device?
  153. # [16:55] <tbsaunde> davidb: can you grab me a dump from the link in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1075387 ?
  154. # [16:55] <@firebot> Bug 1075387 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible::Shutdown()
  155. # [16:56] <@davidb> tbsaunde, i'm not set up to debug dumps
  156. # [16:56] <@davidb> oh for you yeah
  157. # [16:56] <tbsaunde> davidb: no clue if I can either, but it sounds a helk of a lot better than doing a emulator -kk build
  158. # [16:59] <@davidb> tbsaunde, this is ARM FFOS do we get dumps?
  159. # [17:00] <@davidb> oh found it
  160. # [17:00] <tbsaunde> davidb: no clue
  161. # [17:00] <@davidb> tbsaunde, do you want the dump for the comment 0 crash link?
  162. # [17:00] <slee> yzen: Just wondering if with https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/system/js/accessibility.js#L123-L126
  163. # [17:01] <slee> it doesn;t create a function observe() for each interation?
  164. # [17:01] <@yzen> slee yes
  165. # [17:01] <@yzen> webIDE
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  167. # [17:02] <@yzen> you just need to enable devtools debugging in developer settings
  168. # [17:02] <slee> yzen: is that in the desktop like appManager?
  169. # [17:02] <tbsaunde> davidb: yeah
  170. # [17:02] <@yzen> yes
  171. # [17:02] <slee> yay!
  172. # [17:02] <@yzen> pretty much its successro, slee
  173. # [17:02] <@davidb> yzen, are you perhaps hitting crash bug 1075387?
  174. # [17:03] <@yzen> i will check the logs
  175. # [17:03] <slee> yzen: thanks. did you see my wonder about memory excesses above.
  176. # [17:03] <slee> yzen: logcat?
  177. # [17:03] <@yzen> yesh
  178. # [17:05] <slee> yzen a quick Q - when screen reader is enable how do I scroll the home screen on FLame. 2 finger doesn't seem to work
  179. # [17:05] <@davidb> yzen, yesh to which?
  180. # [17:05] <@yzen> davidb to slee's logcat question
  181. # [17:05] <@davidb> k
  182. # [17:06] <@yzen> slee you have to be in the right frame (homescreen icons and the rest of the UI are different iframes) first focus on the icon then 2 finger scroll :S
  183. # [17:11] <slee> Yzen. Tried that, Just did again and no go. Double swiped up and to right
  184. # [17:11] <@yzen> slee so before you swipe with 2 fingers, what's the item you are focused on ?
  185. # [17:12] <slee> yzen all tht happens is icon with focs losed it.
  186. # [17:12] <slee> yzen. say browser icon
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  188. # [17:12] <slee> yzen.Oh i'm in 2.2
  189. # [17:13] <@yzen> slee same
  190. # [17:13] <@yzen> slee seems to work for me
  191. # [17:13] <@yzen> slee the swipe has to be fairly fast fyi
  192. # [17:13] <slee> yzen and from edge ?
  193. # [17:14] <@yzen> slee anywhere should work
  194. # [17:14] <slee> yzen = oh it's set too fast for me :) Works now
  195. # [17:15] <@yzen> we sped it up recently
  196. # [17:15] <slee> yzen - only works sometimes
  197. # [17:16] <slee> yzen will leave for now to tryWebIDE
  198. # [17:16] <@yzen> cool
  199. # [17:16] <slee> is 34 auria
  200. # [17:16] <slee> imean is version 34 of fireofx Aurora?
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  202. # [17:25] <@davidb> yzen, can you check recent chat in #developers and tell me if i lied
  203. # [17:27] <@davidb> yzen, or chime in if you like
  204. # [17:27] <@yzen> davidb hmm im not sure it is a11y related but we do have an almost permanent a11y b2g ui test failing
  205. # [17:28] <@davidb> yzen, not sure what is related? :)
  206. # [17:28] <@davidb> *_what_
  207. # [17:28] <@davidb> sorry, as in what is 'it'?
  208. # [17:28] <@yzen> davidb the test failure to bug 1075387
  209. # [17:28] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1075387 — NEW, trev.saunders@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible::Shutdown()
  210. # [17:28] <tbsaunde> davidb: I don't get your question, qa have some super important tests or something that crash in a11y code, it doesn't really matter why
  211. # [17:29] <@davidb> tbsaunde, it matters to me if we are getting instantiated when we don't expect to be.
  212. # [17:29] <@davidb> it is a side issue
  213. # [17:30] <@davidb> am i making sense?
  214. # [17:30] <@yzen> davidb it looks like a11y b2g test failure depends on bug 1075451, according to zac
  215. # [17:30] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1075451 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — MarionetteTestCase tries to close test container in Gaia tests.
  216. # [17:31] <tbsaunde> davidb: I guess? I don't really know that I care about these tests though?
  217. # [17:31] <@davidb> yzen, yeah i think that is a separate issue, my question is more about whether we expect a11y to be instantiated in "UI tests on B2g"
  218. # [17:32] <@davidb> tbsaunde, good thing i didn't ask you then ;)
  219. # [17:32] <@yzen> davidb oh , yes we do
  220. # [17:32] <@davidb> ok so i didn't lie, cool
  221. # [17:33] <@davidb> i *think* when someone said 'all tests are failing' they really meant 'tests are blocked by a crash'
  222. # [17:35] <tbsaunde> and of course these are tests we don't care about for merging to m-c purposes
  223. # [17:36] <@davidb> we shouldn't crash
  224. # [17:37] <tbsaunde> davidb: of course I'm not saying it isn't a bug
  225. # [17:38] <@davidb> ack
  226. # [17:39] <tbsaunde> early lunch?
  227. # [17:42] <@davidb> tbsaunde, sure, i need something light though
  228. # [17:42] <@davidb> i had a big breakfast
  229. # [17:44] <tbsaunde> davidb: I just had nuts so it can wait
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  238. # [18:01] <@davidb> tbsaunde, i just looked around for you, maybe you went with others. i'm gonna grab ramen with mconley
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  240. # [18:05] <@firebot> overholt@mozilla.com cancelled blocking-b2g on bug 1069877.
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  242. # [18:05] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1069877 — FIXED, yzenevich@mozilla.com — [AccessFu] Entering SIM PIN broken, focus gets taken from password entry field
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  246. # [18:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/980510 — FIXED, maxli@maxli.ca — [AccessFu] After moving by granularity, swiping to next object brings up current object.
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  251. # [19:08] <tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, grabbed afgan
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  254. # [19:25] <@davidb> tbsaunde, cool
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  263. # [19:45] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/670928 — REOPENED, eitan@monotonous.org — HTML5 element and WAI-ARIA landmark roles easily navigable in Firefox
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  267. # [20:01] <slee> davidb: how do I run the gaia UI test? The page forgets to say https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developing_Gaia/Testing_Gaia_code_changes
  268. # [20:01] <@davidb> i dunno. best to ask yzen or eeejay
  269. # [20:01] <eeejay> slee, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Automated_testing/gaia-ui-tests
  270. # [20:02] <eeejay> slee, i often run ./tests/travis_ci/gaia_ui_tests/install
  271. # [20:02] <slee> eeejay: thanks! I'll update MDN
  272. # [20:02] <eeejay> slee, and then ./tests/travis_ci/gaia_ui_tests/script
  273. # [20:04] <slee> eeejay: I'll try that then :) All new to me Py code seem to be marionett
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  285. # [20:24] <@yzen> eeejay hi
  286. # [20:24] <eeejay> yzen, howdy
  287. # [20:24] <eeejay> mtg?
  288. # [20:24] <@yzen> eeejay ya
  289. # [20:26] <slee> eeejay: it seems make b2g is failing. I installed npm. Any thoughts?
  290. # [20:26] <slee> when I run make b2g I get DEBUG=* .....
  291. # [20:27] <slee> i have no./node_modules
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  296. # [20:37] <slee> sigh - it seems mozilal-download quietly does nothing :(
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  299. # [20:38] <slee> yzen: ping
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  320. # [21:49] <@davidb> eeejay, you must have a high yammer klout score now :)
  321. # [21:53] <eeejay> davidb, is that a thing?
  322. # [21:53] <tbsaunde> yzen: do you know anything about running gaia tests on emulators?
  323. # [21:53] <@davidb> eeejay, i hope not
  324. # [21:54] <@yzen> tbsaunde gaia ui tests yeah
  325. # [21:54] <eeejay> heh
  326. # [21:54] <tbsaunde> yzen: I guess so, which ever one it is that does a11y stuff
  327. # [21:55] <@yzen> tbsaunde yeah, do you need to run them locally ?
  328. # [21:56] <tbsaunde> yzen: yeah
  329. # [21:56] <@yzen> tbsaunde do you use virtualenv ?
  330. # [21:56] <tbsaunde> yzen: for what?
  331. # [21:57] <@yzen> tbsaunde well the setup to run the tests installs bunch of stuff so i try to keep it clean
  332. # [21:57] <tbsaunde> yzen: ah, I've never tried to run them before
  333. # [21:58] <@yzen> tbsaunde in any case well the steps are as follows:
  334. # [21:58] <@yzen> in gaia directory: go into tests/python/gaia-ui-tests
  335. # [21:58] <@yzen> run
  336. # [21:58] <@yzen> python setup.py develop
  337. # [21:58] <@yzen> sorry before you go there just run make in the top level gaia directory
  338. # [21:58] <@yzen> to build a profile
  339. # [22:00] <@yzen> and to run all a11y tests, run: gaiatest --binary=/path/to/b2g/b2g-bin --profile=/path/to/gaia/profile --testvars=testvars.json --restart --type=b2g ./gaiatest/tests/accessibility/manifest.ini
  340. # [22:00] <@yzen> you also need to create a testvars.json file that the --testvars arg poitns to
  341. # [22:01] <@yzen> that contains this JSON : {
  342. # [22:01] <@yzen> "acknowledged_risks": true,
  343. # [22:01] <@yzen> "skip_warning": true
  344. # [22:01] <@yzen> }
  345. # [22:01] <@yzen> tbsaunde more details are on MDN : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Automated_testing/gaia-ui-tests/Gaia_UI_Tests_Run_Tests
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  347. # [22:03] <tbsaunde> yzen: what about the branch thing?
  348. # [22:04] <tbsaunde> yzen: I didn't see that talking about emulators though maybe its the same as devices?
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  350. # [22:07] <@yzen> tbsaunde if you mean gaia, master should be fine, i guess
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  355. # [22:20] <@davidb> odd... " The search named Productivity [b2ga11y p=1] has not been made visible to you. "
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  364. # [22:33] <@davidb> surkov, how was aaron's visit on Friday?
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  366. # [22:34] <@surkov> davidb: we talked, had a lunch, then he worked and then we had a glass of beer, it was cool
  367. # [22:35] <@davidb> nice
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