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  7. # [03:04] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1100715 filed by overholt@mozilla.com.
  8. # [03:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1100715 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Quick find conflicts with Gmail search
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  19. # [07:47] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1100602.
  20. # [07:47] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1100602 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible::Shutdown()
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  23. # [08:40] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 919279 from nobody@mozilla.org to fred.wang@free.fr.
  24. # [08:40] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/919279 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — No consistent way to get from web page to menu bar and back using braille display
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  67. # [15:31] <~davidb> heyo
  68. # [15:33] <~davidb> gonna reboot
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  72. # [15:36] <~davidb> -7 C in Toronto, feels like -20
  73. # [15:43] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Heyo! My, my, you already have negative temps? We still run around at 10 + and very autumn'ish cloudy skies.
  74. # [15:43] <~davidb> yeah this is pretty sudden
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  76. # [15:44] <~davidb> tbsaunde, have you been able to get any of these e10s a11y crashs locally?
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  79. # [15:51] <~davidb> tbsaunde, I guess these crashes are on windows
  80. # [15:51] <~davidb> (and android)
  81. # [15:53] <~davidb> (and mac)
  82. # [15:53] <~davidb> heh sigh
  83. # [15:53] <~davidb> at least now bug 1097614 has a test case
  84. # [15:53] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1097614 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Accessibilty crash in OOP mozilla::dom::ContentParent::RecvPDocAccessibleConstructor(mozilla::a11y::
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  89. # [15:58] <~davidb> I guess Martijn is fuzzing us again
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  92. # [16:01] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Which is not a bad thing.
  93. # [16:01] <~davidb> right
  94. # [16:02] <~davidb> might be a temptation to overblame e10s work
  95. # [16:02] <~davidb> just because of timing
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  97. # [16:11] <tbsaunde> davidb|afk: I can reproduce the talos thing, but I need to ask ow to debug it, just wrapping firefox doesn't work because the silly test harness doesn't handle stdin nicely
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  99. # [16:38] <~davidb> ok
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  101. # [17:08] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
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  109. # [17:36] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 919279 from --- to FIXED.
  110. # [17:36] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 919279 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  111. # [17:36] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 919279 from --- to mozilla36.
  112. # [17:36] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/919279 — FIXED, fred.wang@free.fr — No consistent way to get from web page to menu bar and back using braille display
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  121. # [18:07] <&MarcoZ> yzen: Hi!
  122. # [18:07] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
  123. # [18:07] <&MarcoZ> yzen: Sorry wanted to reply earlier, but you had lost connection.
  124. # [18:07] <@yzen> no worries
  125. # [18:07] <@yzen> i am working on interaction hints in accessfu
  126. # [18:08] <&MarcoZ> yzen: OK!
  127. # [18:08] <@yzen> do you think it makes sense to only provide them for the ones that have actionCount > 0 (or if there's an aria-moz-hint attribute) ? or all accessibles and then the client decides if they need to annouce hints for those
  128. # [18:09] <&MarcoZ> yzen: Hm, I think we should have a standard one like "double-tap to activate" in iOS, and for actions like "toggle" for checkboxes, for example, it should say "Double-tap to toggle" or the like.
  129. # [18:09] <&MarcoZ> (in iOS meaning "like in iOS")
  130. # [18:13] <@yzen> MarcoZ right it will be something like that , im guessing we can only interact with the ones that have more than 0 actions
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  132. # [18:14] <&MarcoZ> yzen: Well, 0 actions means there is indeed nothing to do. :) Like plain text.
  133. # [18:14] <&MarcoZ> yzen: And even there you might have the possibility to do something to select it for copying to the clipboard at some point.
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  149. # [19:33] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1099153 from General to Disability Access.
  150. # [19:34] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1099153.
  151. # [19:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1099153 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyDestroyed(mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible*)
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  155. # [19:45] <joanie> surkov: did you have any more thoughts/feedback on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739981 ?
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  161. # [20:00] <@surkov> let me look
  162. # [20:00] <joanie> surkov: if you timed out, check again please
  163. # [20:00] <joanie> we had a gnome infrastructure hiccup
  164. # [20:01] <@surkov> it works
  165. # [20:02] <joanie> yay
  166. # [20:02] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1101093 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
  167. # [20:02] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1101093 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu] When an entry has a value, do not include its placeholder into output.
  168. # [20:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1099153.
  169. # [20:06] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1099153 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyDestroyed(mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible*)
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  184. # [20:58] <~davidb> surkov, what is your position on https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/435
  185. # [20:58] <~davidb> ?
  186. # [20:59] <@surkov> davidb: either misnamed or bad idea
  187. # [20:59] <@surkov> I still don’t have good understanding what is this
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  192. # [21:03] <~davidb> surkov, and what do you think about aria-current?
  193. # [21:04] <@surkov> davidb: i’m with either boolean or text aria-current
  194. # [21:05] <@surkov> I would be ok with aria-currentfor but it was dropped
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  199. # [21:27] <~davidb> surkov, what should we map aria-current to on IAccessible2?
  200. # [21:31] <~davidb> joanie is mapping to ACTIVE for atk
  201. # [21:32] <~davidb> ACTIVE is about windows (currently) for IAccessible2
  202. # [21:37] * ~davidb gives surkov https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1528
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  207. # [21:51] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1100986 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
  208. # [21:51] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from dbolter@mozilla.com on bug 1100986.
  209. # [21:51] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1100986 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Cannot read Web site elements with physical mouse in version 33 while using Window-Eyes screen reade
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  234. # [23:45] * Quits: icaaq (icaaq@moz-g0sjkb.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: 10-79 Notify coroner, over and out)
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  237. # Session Close: Wed Nov 19 00:00:00 2014

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