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  82. # [15:07] <~davidb> heyo
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  85. # [15:12] <tbsaunde> heya
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  90. # [15:24] <~davidb> FWIW WFH today
  91. # [15:27] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Heyo! I hear some snow came your way last night? ;)
  92. # [15:28] <~davidb> yep - nothing too crazy
  93. # [15:28] <~davidb> it is still coming down
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  95. # [15:29] <&MarcoZ> Wow! We're having a real strong autumn storm coming our way, but no snow in sight until at least the weekend of the 20th. We may not get a white Christmas.
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  102. # [15:37] <~davidb> MarcoZ, how important is text navigation for reading? (wow that sounds like a silly question lol)
  103. # [15:37] <&MarcoZ> davidb: It's the only way for reading. Like if I right now want to look at how something is spelled on Firefox OS, I cannot do it with the screen reader.
  104. # [15:38] <&MarcoZ> So right now, what gets spoken gets spoken, and then dissolves into vapor. No way to review it.
  105. # [15:38] <~davidb> MarcoZ, so what happens on FFOS, do we only have paragraphs?
  106. # [15:38] <~davidb> ok
  107. # [15:38] <&MarcoZ> davidb: We only have single accessibles. Buttons, paragraphs, links, headings etc.
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  109. # [15:39] <~davidb> i thought i could go next and previous by paragraphs
  110. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> Or other block elements such as list items.
  111. # [15:39] <~davidb> yeah
  112. # [15:39] <~davidb> ok
  113. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> davidb: You can go by previous or next paragraph, but only because we create accessibles for them. And if there are links within a paragraph, we even split that up into text -- link -- more text -- within a paragraph.
  114. # [15:40] * ~davidb nods
  115. # [15:40] <~davidb> so, text nav should be easier than editing...
  116. # [15:40] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Mind you, iOS does that, too, but both iOS and Android have special gestures to review text char by char, word by word, and in the case of iOS, line by line.
  117. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Yes I think so.
  118. # [15:41] <~davidb> controlled via the iOS dial presumably
  119. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Correct.
  120. # [15:41] <~davidb> ok
  121. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Editing is also important, and functions by the same principle, e. g. when the cursor is in an edit field and that one is focused, the gestures for char, word etc., affect how far the cursor moves.
  122. # [15:42] <~davidb> yeah
  123. # [15:59] <~davidb> MarcoZ, can you find me a link to the kind of glasses we were discussing in portland?
  124. # [15:59] <~davidb> i found some paper ones https://www.good-lite.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=766
  125. # [15:59] <~davidb> which are very affordable
  126. # [15:59] <~davidb> i think we could put some kits together
  127. # [16:02] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Those were the ones I was referring to I think. I actually never tried them myself for obvious reasons, but they always referred to as "glasses". Or the German word, which has nothing to do with glasses actually, but is more broad in that those can be of different materials.
  128. # [16:02] <&MarcoZ> And no, they are indeed not expensive.
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  130. # [16:02] <~davidb> we'd call them glasses here as well
  131. # [16:02] <~davidb> ok cool
  132. # [16:02] <&MarcoZ> OK!
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  134. # [16:03] <&MarcoZ> You could also ask the CNIB if they sell them, they have an office in Toronto.
  135. # [16:04] <~davidb> good idea
  136. # [16:09] <~davidb> i'll order from that site
  137. # [16:10] <~davidb> hemifield loss probably not useful
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  139. # [16:18] <clown> surkov: a question. Is the fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013584 in the latest release? FF34.0?
  140. # [16:18] <@firebot> Bug 1013584 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Children of tables and lists with role='presentation' should each be exposed as if they were div ele
  141. # [16:18] <@surkov> clown: bug says fx 36
  142. # [16:19] <@surkov> see target milestone field
  143. # [16:19] * clown slaps head and says "d;oh!".
  144. # [16:19] <clown> thanks surkov. can I test with a nightly?
  145. # [16:21] <@surkov> clown: sure
  146. # [16:21] <clown> okay, thanks surkov.
  147. # [16:21] <@surkov> you very welcome
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  163. # [17:27] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1110211 filed by stransky@redhat.com.
  164. # [17:27] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1110211 — NEW, stransky@redhat.com — [gtk3] Atk update
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  191. # [19:45] <goetsu> Hi
  192. # [19:46] <goetsu> I'm looking for some help on a git rebase command on the PR https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/pull/26568
  193. # [19:46] <goetsu> what is the correct command to rebase this PR to have just one commit
  194. # [19:47] <goetsu> git rebase -i Bug-1069614---Albums-are-not-accessible- ?
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  197. # [19:59] <@yzen_> goetsu in the branch with a new commit you should still be rebasing against master
  198. # [19:59] <goetsu> git rebase -i master then ?
  199. # [20:00] <@yzen_> goetsu it should show you the original commit + a new one, stash the new one into the original that's all
  200. # [20:00] <@yzen_> goetsu let me know if that works for you as expected
  201. # [20:01] <goetsu> it say Cannot rebase: You have unstaged changes.
  202. # [20:01] <goetsu> Please commit or stash them.
  203. # [20:01] <goetsu> (and yes I have uncommited changes showing up in the app but I don't want to commit then I don't even know why they are showing up)
  204. # [20:09] <goetsu> I think I'm doomed with all my rebase attempt ;)
  205. # [20:17] <@yzen_> goetsu right so you can use git stash (it will save your changes for later)
  206. # [20:18] <goetsu> just "git stash" on my current branch ?
  207. # [20:21] <goetsu> or git stash clear ?
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  215. # [21:29] <richardschwerdtfeger> has firefox for windows implementes a TTS Api?
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  218. # [21:33] <@yzen> goetsu hi , sorry had to step away
  219. # [21:33] <goetsu> no problem
  220. # [21:34] <goetsu> it's not working with git stash too
  221. # [21:34] <goetsu> now I have error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout:
  222. # [21:34] <goetsu> apps/keyboard/js/layouts/te.js
  223. # [21:34] <goetsu> apps/music/js/metadata/flac.js
  224. # [21:34] <goetsu> + other files
  225. # [21:34] <goetsu> Please move or remove them before you can switch branches.
  226. # [21:34] <goetsu> Aborting
  227. # [21:34] <goetsu> could not detach HEAD
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  229. # [21:42] <goetsu> any idea ?
  230. # [21:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1095927 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  231. # [21:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1095927 — NEW, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — expose HTML time element semantics in acc layer
  232. # [21:51] <@yzen> goetsu do you remember how these files got modified ?
  233. # [21:51] * Gijs_away is now known as Gijs
  234. # [21:51] <goetsu> nope I think it's due to a wrong manipulation I've made
  235. # [21:52] <goetsu> I do not change them intentionally
  236. # [21:53] <@yzen> ok so you dont care about them right ?
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  238. # [21:53] <goetsu> yes
  239. # [21:54] <@yzen> ok so do git reset --hard
  240. # [21:54] <goetsu> ok
  241. # [21:54] <@yzen> check with git log that your last commit is what you changed and need within that branch
  242. # [21:55] <goetsu> yes it is
  243. # [21:55] <goetsu> so no I can try my rebase again I presume
  244. # [21:56] <goetsu> hummm still the same message...
  245. # [21:57] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
  246. # [21:57] <goetsu> ok in the git log I have two others commits
  247. # [21:57] <goetsu> not done by myself
  248. # [21:58] <goetsu> commit 65e97a2624638c726cce27f0b7af81952a5f312b
  249. # [21:58] <goetsu> Merge: 1c636b9 913580b
  250. # [21:58] <goetsu> Author: Douglas Sherk <github@sherk.me>
  251. # [21:58] <goetsu> and
  252. # [21:58] <goetsu> commit 913580b0bf4caa5bf6dd2828aebf3e8387833a29
  253. # [21:58] <goetsu> Author: Doug Sherk <github@sherk.me>
  254. # [21:58] <@yzen> hmm that's weird
  255. # [21:59] <@yzen> did you merge anything in your branch ? like master ?
  256. # [21:59] <goetsu> As I said maybe I've made a wrong manipulation last time
  257. # [22:00] <@yzen> right ok
  258. # [22:01] <@yzen> so which message did you get now ?
  259. # [22:01] <goetsu> same
  260. # [22:01] <goetsu> error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout: etc
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  266. # [22:52] <~davidb> tbsaunde are you doing the e10s meeting today? either way consider this a reminder :)
  267. # [22:52] <~davidb> you don't need to attend them all
  268. # [22:53] <~davidb> (although that couldn't hurt)
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  274. # [23:07] <tbsaunde> davidb: I didn't realize how late it got
  275. # [23:08] <~davidb> time marchs on
  276. # [23:08] <tbsaunde> at this point I guess I'll call next week every other ;)
  277. # [23:08] <~davidb> speaking of which i have to go afk
  278. # [23:08] <~davidb> tbsaunde, sounds good
  279. # [23:09] * davidb is now known as davidb|afk
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  281. # Session Close: Fri Dec 12 00:00:00 2014

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