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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jun 24 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  5. # [01:42] <Arron> hixie: ping
  6. # [01:42] <Hixie> hi
  7. # [01:43] <Arron> can properties be inherited from :first-line?
  8. # [01:44] <Hixie> i believe the answer at the moment is yes
  9. # [01:45] <Hixie> as in <p>hello <em>world</em></p> with ::first-line { color: blue; font-weight: bold; } em { color: inherit; font-weight: normal; } the <em> should be blue... but now that i think about it more i'm not sure
  10. # [01:46] <Arron> welcome to the club we have been discussing this for an hour
  11. # [01:46] <Hixie> maybe the last decision was that first-line gets split and the background is special cased...
  12. # [01:46] <Arron> do you remember a thread on this? Is it possibly in the archive?
  13. # [01:46] <Hixie> oh there have been dozens over the years
  14. # [01:47] <Hixie> was there a particular context for the question?
  15. # [01:47] <Arron> here is our scenatio.
  16. # [01:47] <Arron> We have an inline block inside a block with first-line
  17. # [01:49] <Arron> does the inline block get the styles from the first-line of the div or straight from the div.
  18. # [01:50] <Hixie> i vote for saying that the inline-block is inside the first-line, since iirc the first-line of the div is defined not to be inside the inline-block itself
  19. # [01:50] <Hixie> (though the inline-block has its own first-line)
  20. # [01:53] <Arron> so inline-block would inherit the first-line styles
  21. # [01:59] <Arron> thanks hixie
  22. # [02:00] <Hixie> we really should fix the specs to be way more explicit about this
  23. # [02:00] <Hixie> the "describe a model and make browsers implement it" structure that css uses isn't working, imho
  24. # [02:00] <Hixie> it leaves too many things underdefined
  25. # [02:01] <Hixie> someone needs to take a top-down approach and just rewrite the css specs in a more imperative way, with real rfc2119-based conformance requirements for everything
  26. # [02:03] <Arron> I agree but that is a huge undertaking and maybe we need to take that approach for CSS3 specs
  27. # [02:04] <Arron> for CSS 2.1 I just think we need to suffer and get it out the door.
  28. # [02:24] <Hixie> yeah i don't think we should do it for 2.1
  29. # [02:25] <Hixie> it would require someone to work fulltime on editing the css3 specs
  30. # [02:25] <Hixie> which we just don't have
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  36. # [18:13] <fantasai> Bert, can you review the status section of http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-color/ and let the WG know if it's ok?
  37. # [18:13] <fantasai> IIRC that's the main thing holding back publication as LC
  38. # [18:19] <Bert> Will do.
  39. # [18:21] <fantasai> thanks :)
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  41. # [20:32] <fantasai> plinss: should I check in the selectors spec as 'css3-selectors' or 'selectors3'?
  42. # [21:14] <fantasai> Bert, can you CC public-css-testsuite on your Ahem message?
  43. # [21:19] <fantasai> Bert, also what's the status on the CSS2 and CSS1 spec republications?
  44. # [21:44] <Bert> I was thinking we might want to discuss the Ahem font comments first, before saying anything in public.
  45. # [21:44] <Bert> As for the CSS2 and CSS1 specs: I have to find out what went wrong.
  46. # [21:44] <fantasai> well, the rest of the discussion is already public
  47. # [21:44] <fantasai> ok
  48. # [21:45] <Bert> The webmaster gave me a date, I prepared the specs, and on the day itself he seemed to have forgotten to publish (and I didn't think about it either :-( )
  49. # [21:45] <fantasai> hm
  50. # [21:45] <fantasai> when was that?
  51. # [21:46] <Bert> I have a few minutes (there is nothing on TV :-) ), let me send a msg to the webmaster right away...
  52. # [21:46] <fantasai> hehe
  53. # [21:46] <Bert> Let me see..
  54. # [21:46] <Bert> Fri 11 April
  55. # [21:47] <fantasai> as long as it was "we forgot" rather than "we don't want to" we're good :)
  56. # [21:49] <Bert> The former, I'm sure. I have the mail from ChrisL with the go-ahead and the mail from Jules the webmaster with the dates, and my message to Jules that the docs are dated and ready, and after that nothing.
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