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  1. # Session Start: Sun Dec 04 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  4. # [00:01] <cers> khuey: argh, sorry - very long phone call came in - something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/preferences/tests/browser_bug567487.js
  5. # [00:01] <cers> khuey: I'm trying to write a test for bug 705422
  6. # [00:03] <khuey> cers: ok, so you'd run that test by doing
  7. # [00:03] <khuey> python path/to/objdir/_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py --test-path=browser/components/preferences/tests/browser_bug567487.js --browser-chrome
  8. # [00:03] <khuey> that's a mouthful :-P
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  10. # [00:04] <darktrojan> what about ... TEST_PATH=browser/components/preferences/tests/browser_bug567487.js make -C path/to/objdir mochitest-browser-chrome
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  12. # [00:05] <Ms2ger> d
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  14. # [00:05] <khuey> yeah, that works too
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  19. # [00:07] <cers> I see - thanks
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  23. # [00:15] <Asa> Opera made $50M last year in search revenue (Google/Bing/Yandex/Amazon/etc) with about 53M users http://grab.by/blcC
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  25. # [00:18] <khuey> how do you get $50 million from that chart?
  26. # [00:19] <khuey> oh
  27. # [00:19] <khuey> yearly
  28. # [00:19] <khuey> ok
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  30. # [00:21] <bernard> Please help fix the problem https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668813
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  36. # [00:26] <lurking> bernard: I told someone earlier today - the devs are having trouble getting it to fail and are needing more information, and also if your crashing on the try-build they need crash-reports -
  37. # [00:27] <bernard> crash-reports https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-86baeaf5-7ea5-4172-b558-324ec2111203
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  39. # [00:29] <lurking> Ad that to the bug please
  40. # [00:29] <Asa> khuey: If we were getting paid at opera's rate, I estimate we'd be getting $400M/yr or more for search traffic We're undervalued.
  41. # [00:29] <lurking> *Add
  42. # [00:29] <lurking> oops, never-mind, I bet that try build does not have symbols - making the report useless
  43. # [00:30] <lurking> khuey: ? can you confirm my statement ?///
  44. # [00:31] <bernard> lurking: This report of the crash https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-58f11e0c-a36a-4305-8859-8721e2111203
  45. # [00:32] <khuey> Asa: maybe a bit less than that, but certainly more than we're getting now
  46. # [00:32] <lurking> that one also looks to be withoug symbols
  47. # [00:32] <lurking> s/without
  48. # [00:33] <khuey> lurking: the report itself will be useless, but a developer could download the dump and combine it with the symbols from the try build
  49. # [00:33] <lurking> Ahh, thanks
  50. # [00:33] <khuey> so if there's a reason for someone to care about it it could still be useful
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  52. # [00:33] <lurking> bug 668813
  53. # [00:34] <lurking> someone asks about that bug every few days
  54. # [00:34] <lurking> bernard: please add your crash-report links to the bug
  55. # [00:34] <edmorley> bhackett: thanks
  56. # [00:34] <khuey> yes, I generally assume it's the same person and ignore it
  57. # [00:34] <khuey> :-P
  58. # [00:34] <bhackett> edmorley: np
  59. # [00:35] <khuey> if we could get jfkthame a crash report he might be able to do something with it
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  61. # [00:36] <lurking> bhackett: I'm wondering if its placebo effect - or is the browser that much faster now after your landing - it sure seems to be flying right along, and memory use is down just a bit here from what I see on average - good job
  62. # [00:36] <khuey> we should do some double blind tests
  63. # [00:36] <bhackett> lurking: thanks, but it's probably mostly placebo effect. memory use should go down ~5% though
  64. # [00:37] <lurking> that seems about right as a ruff guess on the memory usage decrease - Good Job, I know you worked long/hard on that one
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  67. # [00:38] <Asa> khuey: we have about 10x their usage according to net applications and statcounter.
  68. # [00:38] <edmorley> bhackett: 5% of js or total?
  69. # [00:38] <bhackett> edmorley: 5% of total, 9% of js
  70. # [00:38] <bernard> lurking: This is also related to the crash report https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678181
  71. # [00:38] <edmorley> bhackett: nice :-)
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  73. # [00:38] <bhackett> edmorley: there will be another bug in the next two weeks which should take another 2% off the browser's total usage
  74. # [00:39] <khuey> Asa: I'd be interested to know how they calculate the 50 million user figure
  75. # [00:39] <lurking> bernard: yes, I see that in the blocks bug number
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  77. # [00:40] <lurking> bernard: if your not going to add your crash-report links to the bug, I'll paste them in real quick
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  79. # [00:40] <NeilAway> glob|away: is it me or has bug 675941 stopped working?
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  82. # [00:44] * lurking pastes the links to the bug
  83. # [00:44] <bernard> lurking: This version, which, who spoke on the problem http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2011/08/2011-08-10-03-07-38-mozilla-central/
  84. # [00:45] <lurking> k
  85. # [00:46] <Asa> khuey: yeah. though it sort of matches up against our 3x ADUs to get monthly users. If we assume that our users are about the same in usage, then the math works out pretty close suggesting they're doing a 3xADU or our formula happens to match their formula.
  86. # [00:46] <bernard> lurking: Developer Jonathan Kew asked to help identify bugs https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668813#c23
  87. # [00:48] <lurking> yes, that"s why I was asking for the crash-reports _ I just now posted your crash-reports to the bug - lets give them some time and see where it goes - since its the week-end I would guess it will be next week before anyone gets to looking
  88. # [00:49] <lurking> bernard: crash-reports added to bug - thanks for posting those
  89. # [00:52] <bernard> lurking: thanks
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  288. # [05:52] <heycam> Does the Bugzilla Tweaks "Collapse all tbplbot comments" link not work any more?
  289. # [05:53] <darktrojan> I noticed that too, so I guess not
  290. # [05:53] <philor> bug 685909
  291. # [05:54] <heycam> thanks
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  300. # [06:07] <heycam> lol at "… | Test timed out … If you fixed bug 589668, you'd get a screenshot here"
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  302. # [06:08] <philor> yeah, isn't that wonderfully placed?
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  306. # [06:08] <heycam> right when you want it
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  330. # [06:41] <heycam> is Orange Factor broken? seems to stay stuck on "Loading…" for me
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  332. # [06:45] <heycam> front page of it works, actually, but not looking for a particular bug
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  349. # [07:19] <KWierso> heycam|away: maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems to work for me
  350. # [07:19] <KWierso> I go to http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/ and the page loads, with a list of bugs at the bottom
  351. # [07:20] <KWierso> clicking the "details" link for any particular bug in the list loads up details about that bug
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  354. # [07:21] <philor> 5.01
  355. # [07:21] <philor> that's pathetic
  356. # [07:21] <regen> recent firefox nightly seems bumpy
  357. # [07:22] <regen> it's fast, but I can feel the car is vibrating
  358. # [07:22] <KWierso> of course, now that I say that, it stops loading for me at all...
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  360. # [07:22] <KWierso> "data is null", line 305
  361. # [07:22] <KWierso> hrm
  362. # [07:23] <regen> but seems overally faster
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  399. # [09:11] <philor> so, bug 656943
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  401. # [09:13] <philor> why do we waste so much time and effort writing and running tests, given our utter indifference to their results?
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  407. # [09:29] <rnewman> depressing
  408. # [09:31] <nigelb> Hrm, my build keeps segfaulting :(
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  470. # [12:06] <NeilAway> why do I have 361 threads?
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  476. # [12:09] <NeilAway> hmm, mostly owned by Flash
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  478. # [12:09] <NeilAway> (old --disable-ipc build)
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  480. # [12:22] <auscompgeek> how old exactly?
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  485. # [12:32] <NeilAway> auscompgeek: Gecko 2.0
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  515. # [13:38] <nigelb> Can I make changes to the files in omni.ja and have firefox pick it up?
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  519. # [13:40] <Unfocused> nigelb: yes
  520. # [13:40] <Ms2ger> nigelb, if you unpack it and remove omni.ja, it should work
  521. # [13:41] <Unfocused> though when you restart firefox, oyu may need to run it with -purgecache
  522. # [13:41] <nigelb> ah
  523. # [13:41] <Unfocused> er, or -purgecaches
  524. # [13:41] <nigelb> purchecache might do the trick.
  525. # [13:41] * Unfocused forgets which
  526. # [13:42] <nigelb> Nope :|
  527. # [13:42] <Unfocused> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Simple_Firefox_build
  528. # [13:42] <Unfocused> have fun
  529. # [13:42] <Unfocused> ;)
  530. # [13:42] <nigelb> woo!
  531. # [13:43] <nigelb> mozilla-central segfaults on me on my build.
  532. # [13:43] <nigelb> So I'm having to explore "other options"
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  535. # [13:43] <Unfocused> :\
  536. # [13:44] <Unfocused> i thought you figured that out?
  537. # [13:44] <nigelb> Nope.
  538. # [13:44] <Unfocused> hm
  539. # [13:44] <Unfocused> ever get a stack trace?
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  541. # [13:44] <nigelb> I have a stracktrace though.
  542. # [13:44] <nigelb> Yeah.
  543. # [13:44] <Unfocused> ah, cool
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  545. # [13:45] <nigelb> http://nigelb.pastebin.mozilla.org/1391686
  546. # [13:46] * nigelb clobbers and tries again.
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  549. # [13:47] <nigelb> Ms2ger: what do you mean by unpack?
  550. # [13:47] <Ms2ger> $ unzip omni.ja
  551. # [13:47] <Unfocused> ugh, its far too late at night for me to look at a stacktrace like that
  552. # [13:47] <nigelb> heh
  553. # [13:48] <nigelb> Ms2ger: when prompted, replace files?
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  555. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> Probably not
  556. # [13:51] <nigelb> Did not find omni.ja and crashed.
  557. # [13:51] <nigelb> So, I may have done something wrong.
  558. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> Hmm
  559. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> I may be misremembering
  560. # [13:52] <nigelb> So, it can't be run that way?
  561. # [13:52] * nigelb looks at mdn
  562. # [13:56] <Ms2ger> <Jesse> mano: can't build, too much porn on my hd
  563. # [13:56] <nigelb> lol
  564. # [13:57] <evilpie> Ms2ger: i started looking a bit into xpconnect
  565. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh ;)
  566. # [13:57] <evilpie> and i am currently working on a patch to remove the includes of typedarray.h
  567. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> Anything in particular? :)
  568. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> \o/
  569. # [13:58] * Ms2ger strikes that off his todo list
  570. # [13:58] <evilpie> yes, this recent bug about type conversation interested me
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  572. # [14:00] <evilpie> eg. i think nsIDOMHTMLAudioElement::MozWriteAudio could now take an float32[] array as paramter
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  574. # [14:00] <nigelb> Ms2ger: What I'm finding suggests that you're right.
  575. # [14:00] <nigelb> Except its not behaving correctly :)
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  577. # [14:01] <Ms2ger> evilpie, even if we want to support plain arrays?
  578. # [14:02] <evilpie> yes because from my understanding we would just convert every element to an float32 in that case
  579. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> Hmm
  580. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> That sure would be nice
  581. # [14:04] <evilpie> see here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCConvert.cpp#1643
  582. # [14:05] <evilpie> going to fill a bug
  583. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> Is that the right line number?
  584. # [14:06] <evilpie> not quite, but the POPULATE does that
  585. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> Seems that way indeed
  586. # [14:10] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  587. # [14:12] <evilpie> Ms2ger: ah, not quite, looks like that in webidl you always need a size_is parameter
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  589. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> :/
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  591. # [14:20] <evilpie> if (js::GetObjectClass(darray) == &js::TypedArray::fastClasses[js::TypedArray::TYPE_FLOAT32]) :( :(
  592. # [14:20] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  595. # [14:22] <nigelb> Is the "firefox should work if omni.ja is extracted and deleted" case expected behavior? Can I file a bug about it not working.
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  597. # [14:24] <Ms2ger> Please do
  598. # [14:25] <nigelb> ok :)
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  601. # [14:29] <nigelb> Ms2ger: bug 707502, if you're interested in following.
  602. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> Not particularly :)
  603. # [14:30] <nigelb> heh
  604. # [14:30] * nigelb hopes this build works.
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  610. # [14:41] <wg9s> nigelb: when you unziped omni.ja did you tell it to replace chrome.manifest?
  611. # [14:42] <wg9s> It will definitely crash if you tell it to leave the existing chrome.manifest
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  633. # [15:14] <nigelb> wg9s: ah, I didn't.
  634. # [15:14] * nigelb retries.
  635. # [15:14] <nigelb> Unfocused: \o/ Pulling mozilla-central fixed the segfault :)
  636. # [15:15] <nigelb> wg9s: Thanks, looks like the bug was unncessary :)
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  638. # [15:17] <wg9s> well at least a place to douument this so the next person who runs into this might find your bug with the answer.
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  640. # [15:19] <nigelb> I closed the bug with that answer.
  641. # [15:19] <nigelb> I'm thinking of modifying https://developer.mozilla.org/en/About_omni.jar with this information.
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  656. # [15:44] <nigelb> Unfocused: bah, I take that back. I still have segfaults.
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  670. # [16:12] <NeilAway> bah, I can't figure out the right IFSummary invocation :s
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  675. # [16:17] <st3fan> mmm SPDY .. is this in Nightly?
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  677. # [16:17] <edmorley> st3fan: yes, but preffed off
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  684. # [16:26] <st3fan> edmorley: interesting
  685. # [16:26] <st3fan> i wonder what server i need to use to play with it
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  689. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Gmail?
  690. # [16:28] <erione> msucan: i was bit away, but will upload the new patch soon,most probably today only...:)
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  694. # [16:33] <st3fan> Ms2ger: no i mean locally :)
  695. # [16:34] <deLta30> Can anybody tell me reason of this error?
  696. # [16:34] <deLta30> /home/jiten/mozilla/src/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSCallbacks.cpp:79:21: fatal error: sslimpl.h: No such file or directory
  697. # [16:34] <deLta30> I have tried to add sslimpl.h to local includes in make file in src/security/manager/ssl/src but that won't work
  698. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> Did you pastebin your patch last time I asked?
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  715. # [17:05] <msucan> erione: no worries
  716. # [17:05] <msucan> thanks for your contribution!
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  718. # [17:06] <erione> :)
  719. # [17:06] <deLta30> khuey: ping
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  723. # [17:13] <khuey> deLta30: pong
  724. # [17:13] <deLta30> i am getting this error: /home/jiten/mozilla/src/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSCallbacks.cpp:79:21: fatal error: sslimpl.h: No such file or directory
  725. # [17:13] <deLta30> I have tried to add sslimpl.h to local includes in make file in src/security/manager/ssl/src but that won't work
  726. # [17:13] <deLta30> can you help?
  727. # [17:14] <khuey> are you building with --enable-system-nss?
  728. # [17:14] <deLta30> no
  729. # [17:15] <khuey> hmm
  730. # [17:15] <khuey> ok
  731. # [17:15] <deLta30> there are already other files used from the same directory as src/security/manager/ssl/src
  732. # [17:15] <khuey> did you add the #include "sslimph.h"?
  733. # [17:15] <deLta30> yes,tha's why i am getting this error
  734. # [17:16] <khuey> mmm
  735. # [17:16] <khuey> it doesn't look like this header is used outside of nss itself
  736. # [17:16] <deLta30> can you have a look at the make file and tell me exactly what to add?
  737. # [17:16] <deLta30> I might be wrong
  738. # [17:16] <khuey> to solve your build problem you have to add sslimpl.h to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/nss/lib/ssl/manifest.mn#41
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  740. # [17:17] <khuey> whether or not the NSS peers will r+ doing that, I don't know
  741. # [17:17] <khuey> but that will get it to build
  742. # [17:17] <deLta30> ok,let me try that
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  748. # [17:26] <deLta30> khuey: now getting this error: make[7]: Entering directory `/home/jiten/mozilla/src/security/nss/lib/ssl'
  749. # [17:26] <deLta30> make -j1: *** No rule to make target sslimph.h. Stop.
  750. # [17:26] <deLta30> make[7]: *** [sslimph.h] Error 1
  751. # [17:26] <khuey> yeah that's cause you spelled the header wrong
  752. # [17:27] <deLta30> oops
  753. # [17:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, you did ;)
  754. # [17:30] <khuey> ha
  755. # [17:30] <khuey> that I did
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  763. # [17:36] <khuey> deLta30: any luck?
  764. # [17:37] <deLta30> same error for file ssl3prot.h which was included in sslimpl.h
  765. # [17:37] <deLta30> khuey: so I added that too in exports, then I am getting some syntax error in ssl3prot.h
  766. # [17:38] <khuey> mmm
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  768. # [17:38] <khuey> a fun rabbit hole
  769. # [17:38] <khuey> good luck!
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  820. # [18:59] <josh> today's nightly has SPDY in it, flip the pref in about:config to try it
  821. # [19:03] <nigelb> Is there something on how to test it?
  822. # [19:03] <nigelb> Like, how do I know its working :)
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  825. # [19:05] <josh> Not yet, but you can use it on some google sites like gmail or searching at google.com. Unfortunately at this point you have to look at HTTP headers to see if it is in use. We'll improve the docs and possibly the UI soon.
  826. # [19:05] <lurking_work> nigelb: not sure you can - other than page load speeds, but AFAIK its only working on google servers at the moment
  827. # [19:06] <nigelb> lurking_work: Hrm
  828. # [19:06] <nigelb> Will the console show HTTP vs SPDY?
  829. # [19:06] <nigelb> That'd be nifty :)
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  832. # [19:09] <erione> msucan:
  833. # [19:10] <erione> i am doing this.updateCompleteNode("") whenever items.length > 1
  834. # [19:11] <lurking_work> nigelb: no idea what It shows , not had to time to really play with it --
  835. # [19:11] <nigelb> lurking_work: np, I'm going to play around with it now :)
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  849. # [19:28] <msucan> erione: does that fix the STR?
  850. # [19:29] <erione> yes
  851. # [19:29] <msucan> good
  852. # [19:29] <erione> i just uploaded the patch
  853. # [19:30] <msucan> great. thanks a lot for your work!
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  855. # [19:30] <msucan> erione: is it fine if i look into the code tomorrow?
  856. # [19:30] <msucan> (it's evening here already)
  857. # [19:31] <erione> np,
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  859. # [19:31] <erione> i am also going to bed,since its 12am here
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  876. # [19:47] <Asa> I'm regularly getting into a state where my twitter pinned tab is sucking 25% CPU and causing Firefox to fail to load new pages until the Twitter tab is closed.
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  886. # [19:52] <bjacob> Asa: worrying!
  887. # [19:53] <bjacob> Does anyone know a tool to automatically update bugs when I land patches?
  888. # [19:54] <Asa> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707520 in case anyone wants to follow along
  889. # [19:55] <Asa> bjacob: cdleary has something like that I think.
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  891. # [19:55] <KWierso> Asa: does it happen if it's not pinned?
  892. # [19:55] <bjacob> i was wondering about the good people who do the inbound->central merges!
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  904. # [20:03] <Asa> KWierso: I should try that. I can't imagine what pinning would change though. That being said, I don't know what pinning actually does.
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  906. # [20:03] <Asa> bjacob: yeah. those people must have something.
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  908. # [20:04] <Asa> khuey|away: does a fair amount of merges I think
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  910. # [20:05] <edmorley> bjacob: I'm thinking of making such a system
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  912. # [20:05] <Asa> and marco
  913. # [20:05] <edmorley> bjacob: plans so far https://etherpad.mozilla.org/automating-merge-bug-marking
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  916. # [20:06] <bjacob> edmorley: cool, thanks
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  919. # [20:07] <Callek> edmorley++
  920. # [20:08] <edmorley> robcee: ping
  921. # [20:09] <Callek> edmorley: re that, you probably should have some sort of (yes complex) way to track for backouts so we don't resolve those bugs
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  923. # [20:10] <edmorley> Callek: they will be tracked so as to exclude them, but not as to mark them
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  926. # [20:10] <edmorley> see edge cases -> backouts
  927. # [20:10] <edmorley> :-)
  928. # [20:11] <Callek> ahh ok
  929. # [20:11] <Callek> didn't get that far
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  931. # [20:12] <edmorley> hmmm tbpl logs not showing
  932. # [20:12] <edmorley> that time of the day again... :-)
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  934. # [20:13] <edmorley> philor: ^
  935. # [20:13] <philor> except the whole day-long closure and move to different storage was supposed to fix that, and returning an empty summary is not the same as "log not available"
  936. # [20:15] <edmorley> I was paraphrasing
  937. # [20:15] <edmorley> logs work via ftp, ideas?
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  941. # [20:24] <philor> none that fit the evidence
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  943. # [20:26] <bjacob> i wish there were a hotkey for "copy link location", without even requiring a click. or maybe a mode where left click means copy link location
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  946. # [20:26] <philor> look at tbpl, tbpl-dev, and tbpl.swatinem.de - tbpl doesn't get anything for either flavor of getLogExcerpt.php, tbpl-dev never gets type=tinderbox_print and sometimes gets type=annotated, swatinem.de rarely gets type=tinderbox_print and mostly gets type=annotated
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  956. # [20:43] <philor> oh well, won't be the first incomprehensible and unhelpful server-ops blocker I've ever filed :)
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  958. # [20:44] <philor> hmm, is it actually a blocker? we've pretty much switched to never starring orange on any tree and landing on top of unstarred orange everywhere...
  959. # [20:44] <Callek> philor: if its not filed already can you please CC me
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  966. # [20:52] <bjacob> philor: i guess it's going to be a blocker very soon for that reason, when we start getting permaoranges
  967. # [20:52] * bjacob rushes to land his important beta/aurora fix before the tree gets closed
  968. # [20:53] <philor> nobody ever remembers to close them anyway
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  972. # [20:58] <philor> oh, good webgl test suite update, *that* never fails :)
  973. # [20:58] <philor> bwahaha, I was just going to say "maybe sicking should land something, his stuff never fails either" when I saw that he did
  974. # [21:00] <philor> bug 707553 for your cc'ing yourself pleasure
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  976. # [21:01] <bjacob> philor: webgl test suite updates may appear to fail often, but generally it's just a matter of updating the text file listing the tests expected to fail
  977. # [21:01] <bjacob> philor: also, i've run this on tryserver
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  981. # [21:03] * philor changes topic to 'mozilla-central: CLOSED || mozilla-inbound: CLOSED || Next aurora uplift: 20th Dec || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction'
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  983. # [21:07] <bjacob> philor: though, it does look like i regressed linux mochitest-1
  984. # [21:08] <philor> bjacob: looking at the log from ftp.m.o? because otherwise, that's probably the single most intermittent-failure-prone run that we have
  985. # [21:09] <bjacob> philor: as i replied on your bug, the logs don't even exist on ftp
  986. # [21:10] <bjacob> philor: i can back out the webgl test upgrade
  987. # [21:11] <philor> bjacob: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux/1323026301/mozilla-inbound_fedora_test-mochitests-1-build477.txt.gz sure looks to me like a log
  988. # [21:12] <bjacob> oh
  989. # [21:12] <bjacob> no
  990. # [21:12] <philor> Test failed, "fbo should be green"
  991. # [21:12] <bjacob> oh
  992. # [21:12] <bjacob> oops, somehow i failed
  993. # [21:12] <philor> Test failed, "fbo should be blue"
  994. # [21:12] <bjacob> looking
  995. # [21:13] <bjacob> ok... i'm stupid
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  1000. # [21:14] <bjacob> this is very easy to fix, it's just that i removed that test from the list of failing tests, but the patch fixing it is still pending review so i didn't land it
  1001. # [21:15] <robcee> edmorley: you pung?
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  1026. # [21:34] <Mnyromyr> who is "Tom Schuster (evilpie) <evilpies@gmail.com>" and is he allowed to wontfix Javascript Engine Bugs?
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  1030. # [21:37] <roc> yes he is
  1031. # [21:37] <roc> he's a JS contributor
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  1035. # [21:40] <Mnyromyr> roc: thx (he's not listed as peer on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/All btw.)
  1036. # [21:40] <roc> yeah
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  1038. # [21:42] <roc> he's not a peer, but he has cred :-)
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  1042. # [21:51] <bjacob> Mnyromyr: https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/3dea86ea8f
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  1044. # [21:53] <Mnyromyr> roc: I'm always wary if random people drive by and wontfix bugs I filed ;-)
  1045. # [21:53] <roc> :-)
  1046. # [21:53] <bjacob> Mnyromyr: he's not random people; you can always CC more people on your bug and explain why you think it shouldn't be wontfixed
  1047. # [21:54] <Mnyromyr> bjacob: fwiw, you're "random people" to me as well ;-)
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  1049. # [21:55] <bjacob> Mnyromyr: you can check if someone appears in the hg logs, for instance, or in a bugzilla search
  1050. # [21:56] <bjacob> philor: looks like i'm green again
  1051. # [21:56] <Mnyromyr> bjacob: after all, what else should I say that I didn't already say, if someone wontfixes the bug without any comment?
  1052. # [21:56] <philor> yay
  1053. # [21:56] <bjacob> Mnyromyr: you could ask for an explanation!
  1054. # [21:57] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  1055. # [21:57] <Mnyromyr> bjacob: that's surely an idea that never occured to me :-P
  1056. # [21:58] <bjacob> you could even REOPEN until you've got your explanation. one shouldn't wontfix recent bugs without any explanation
  1057. # [21:59] <bjacob> (for 5 year old bugs, it's different)
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  1085. # [22:43] <IanN> Just upgraded to Fedora 14 and now getting "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++" when trying to build, anything I should be checking?
  1086. # [22:45] <smaug> upgraded to Fedora 14 o_O ?
  1087. # [22:45] <bjacob> that's your first problem. c++ wasn't invented when fedora 14 came out.
  1088. # [22:45] <IanN> I was on Fedora 12 before
  1089. # [22:45] <smaug> isn't that like "upgraded to Windows XP"
  1090. # [22:45] <IanN> ah, do I need the static version
  1091. # [22:45] <kinetik> IanN: check that libstdc++-static is installed
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  1093. # [22:46] <IanN> isn't Windows XP considered to be upgrade compared to Vista? :p
  1094. # [22:47] <smaug> well, yeah, Vista is downgrade from anything
  1095. # [22:47] <IanN> kinetik: thanks, yes, I think that is the issue
  1096. # [22:47] <smaug> how do I reproduce the high CC times people see ?
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  1099. # [22:49] <philikon> khuey: ping?
  1100. # [22:50] <Callek> smaug: yea, fwiw I wasn't expecting your try builds to lower mem usage, just wasn't sure if the "hey I don't see CC pauses normally either, but is my testing helpful"
  1101. # [22:50] <Callek> in the terms of casual testing
  1102. # [22:50] <IanN> I wish the build system would check for more missing libraries
  1103. # [22:51] <smaug> Callek: my problem is that some people are seeing 1500ms CC times, and I get 25-50ms
  1104. # [22:51] <smaug> and I do have 100+ tabs
  1105. # [22:52] <smaug> several tbpl tabs
  1106. # [22:52] <smaug> now also some news sites, facebook, etc
  1107. # [22:52] <Callek> yea, I understand just a matter of "happy to help for this type of testing IFF you thought it would help you" ;-)
  1108. # [22:52] <Callek> no worries
  1109. # [22:53] <khuey> philikon: pong
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  1111. # [22:53] <philikon> khuey: hey, would mind giving https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=578714&action=edit a quick review?
  1112. # [22:53] <philikon> it would unblock a few other things from landing
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  1114. # [22:57] <philikon> khuey: you rock! thx!
  1115. # [22:57] <khuey> np
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  1136. # [23:19] <jlebar> What's the syntax for making a changelog range at hg.m.o?
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  1138. # [23:20] <Callek> jlebar: http syntax or local hg command syntax?
  1139. # [23:20] <jlebar> Callek: http syntax
  1140. # [23:21] <Ms2ger> Something with fromchange= &tochange=?
  1141. # [23:21] <Callek> jlebar: and pushlog range, or changelog range (there is a *slight* difference)
  1142. # [23:21] <jlebar> Callek: either one is fine, but I guess pushlog is better.
  1143. # [23:21] <Callek> jlebar: if you know endpoints of cset's http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=c722928d8b69&tochange=803b01dcc589
  1144. # [23:21] <Callek> where fromchange is not inclusive :(
  1145. # [23:22] <jlebar> Callek: that's perfect! :)
  1146. # [23:22] <jlebar> Thanks.
  1147. # [23:22] <Callek> (that link just happened to be one I had handy)
  1148. # [23:22] <smaug> jlebar: have you seen huge CC times lately?
  1149. # [23:22] <jlebar> smaug: No, but I never saw them without irccloud.
  1150. # [23:22] <smaug> ah
  1151. # [23:22] <smaug> k
  1152. # [23:23] * smaug tries all sorts of edge cases, like having 100+ tabs and running FotN, to get high CC times, but no luck
  1153. # [23:24] <smaug> or perhaps my patch is just perfect
  1154. # [23:24] <Ms2ger> As perfect as a spec
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  1156. # [23:24] <Ms2ger> Good evening :)
  1157. # [23:24] <nemo> so. my happy lil' firefox discovery that is probably obvious and known to you guys was that ctrl-s, save image as and save page as all can point to different directories
  1158. # [23:24] <felipe> smaug++
  1159. # [23:25] <nemo> which is very hand as I sort some backgrounds into different directories :)
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  1161. # [23:25] <nemo> er. ctrl-s = save pave as. anyway. those two :-p
  1162. # [23:25] <Ms2ger> We still use MOZ_PHOENIX?
  1163. # [23:26] <darktrojan> nemo, they're stored based on where you last saved something from that website
  1164. # [23:26] <smaug> Ms2ger: hah, my code can't be as bad as specs :)
  1165. # [23:26] <nemo> darktrojan: right. that's the handy thing for sorting. I was repeatedly browsing to save each image, but instead I just use page vs image :)
  1166. # [23:27] <Ms2ger> Hmm, wasn't the idea that you don't change stuff around in SetAttr?
  1167. # [23:28] <smaug> depends on "stuff"
  1168. # [23:29] <Ms2ger> Like the stuff in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/47eba8a9a3b8/content/html/content/src/nsHTMLMediaElement.cpp#l1507
  1169. # [23:30] <smaug> that code should use AfterSetAttr
  1170. # [23:31] <smaug> but that code is probably older than AfterSetAttr
  1171. # [23:31] <smaug> er
  1172. # [23:31] <smaug> hmm
  1173. # [23:31] <smaug> maybe not
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  1184. # [23:51] <smaug> jlebar: do you still have irccloud invites?
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  1188. # [23:55] <jlebar> smaug: invite sent.
  1189. # [23:57] <smaug> thanks
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  1192. # [23:59] <smaug> "Error signing up your account:"
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