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1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 16 00:00:02 2011
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <mcpherrin> derf: clang got plugins in gcc 4.5! That's something.
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5. # [00:00] <gps> mcpherrin: only of of necessity - they didn't want to maintain the GCC bridge on their end forever
6. # [00:01] <gps> especially since GCC has a number of undocumented arguments. ugh, GCC
7. # [00:01] <mcpherrin> The GCC folks used to be horribly opposed to having a plugin system.
8. # [00:01] <derf> khuey: I enjoyed the bit where the developer of graphite for gcc got hired to add the feature to clang, and his employer now prohibits him from contributing to GPL'd projects.
9. # [00:01] <derf> So now graphite in gcc 4.7 is broken, and no one is fixing it.
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11. # [00:02] <khuey> derf: is http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2574298&cid=38374912 you?
12. # [00:02] <khuey> :-P
13. # [00:02] <derf> khuey: No. I've been /. free for 10 years and 35 days.
14. # [00:02] <khuey> heh
15. # [00:02] <jduell> edmorley: so is inbound closed?
16. # [00:02] <roc> nsTArrays default to infallible these days, right?
17. # [00:02] * njn hopes not
18. # [00:02] <gcp> it does
19. # [00:02] <gcp> OOM's
20. # [00:02] <Ms2ger> roc, yes
21. # [00:02] <jlebar> roc, yes, they do.
22. # [00:02] * njn was responding to jduell, not roc
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24. # [00:03] <cpeterson> We shouldn't print warnings no one is going to fix. If many gcc warnings are bogus, we should -Wno-all and then opt into the useful ones.
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26. # [00:03] <edmorley> jduell: it's open
27. # [00:03] <jduell> yay
28. # [00:03] <gcp> njn: I CC'ed you on a bug because I'm OOM-ing, but I think its not my fault :P
29. # [00:03] <jlebar> cpeterson, maybe we should still print them, but I agree they shouldn't all be errors by default.
30. # [00:04] <edmorley> jduell: the closed tree appended to the penultimate push's commit message was so that I could push the backout without being beaten to the rebase twice in a row
31. # [00:04] <derf> cpeterson: It's not that simple.
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34. # [00:04] <derf> For example, "Variable <x> may be used uninitialized" is _sometimes_ useful.
35. # [00:04] <cpeterson> We print the warnings now, but does anyone fix those? The noisy warnings numb people to all warnings.
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37. # [00:04] <derf> It tells you you need to go look at that code very carefully, and make sure you understand why gcc is saying that.
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39. # [00:04] <jdm> cpearce: yeah, there are a few people that go and do surgical warning strikes
40. # [00:05] <derf> But gcc is often dumb, and doesn't know as much about your code as you do.
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42. # [00:05] <derf> So it prints that warning in many cases where it isn't true.
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44. # [00:05] <derf> But the cases where it _is_ true are very important to fix.
45. # [00:05] <cpearce> jdm: you mean cpeterson I assume?
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47. # [00:05] <jdm> heh, yeah
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50. # [00:05] <gps> if we had a warnings bash day, we could probably nuke 80% of them easily
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52. # [00:06] <gps> it is just a matter of time investment
53. # [00:06] <jdm> jeeze, somebody get a name change so I don't need to change my tab-complete habits
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55. # [00:06] <cpeterson> gps: and risk of bug injections..
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57. # [00:06] <Ms2ger> gps, we could get rid of them if people were willing to take my patches
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59. # [00:06] <derf> gps: Keep in mind you'll have to re-invest some of that time every time you want to upgrade your toolchain.
60. # [00:07] <derf> Because the warnings will change.
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65. # [00:11] <Waldo> cpeterson: it's a broken window thing; there are so many that they encourage neglect
66. # [00:11] <Waldo> cpeterson: that said, I do sometimes fix warnings as I cross them if they look easy
67. # [00:12] <Waldo> cpeterson: the JS engine's where I usually work, tho, and it's warning-free, hence why I don't fix very many usually
68. # [00:12] * Waldo maintains the existence of a warning-free JS engine demonstrates that it is feasible beyond
69. # [00:12] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&usetinderbox=1&jobname=spidermonkey
70. # [00:12] <philor> s/warning-free/sometimes warning free for a few hours/
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72. # [00:13] <khuey> philor++
73. # [00:13] <Waldo> also, because those warnings aren't errors on tinderbox, sometimes we mess up
74. # [00:13] <Waldo> and philor gets angry
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76. # [00:13] <Waldo> and I get correspondingly angry
77. # [00:13] <cpeterson> Waldo: broken windows is a good analogy.
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81. # [00:14] <Waldo> I believe I saw someone post a patch to get rid of that warning in a bug
82. # [00:14] <Waldo> which, incidentally, I take as proof that certain fixes should be made outside bugs as a matter of course
83. # [00:15] <Waldo> rubber-stamp on IRC from someone else, and land
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90. # [00:17] <florian> the runtime warnings on debug builds are also very noisy.
91. # [00:17] <derf> Waldo: Or automate the process of putting such patches in bugzilla.
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94. # [00:17] <jduell> edmorley: mwah--I can't seem to link libxul with linux/gold on the latest inbound: do we use gold on the buildbots?
95. # [00:18] <edmorley> I don't believe so
96. # [00:18] <Waldo> derf: what's having the patch in bugzilla really gain? that, I've never understood
97. # [00:18] <florian> I sometimes silence some of them locally to see better the warnings actually caused by the code I'm debugging.
98. # [00:18] <edmorley> ^khuey
99. # [00:18] <Waldo> runtime warnings are a bit of a different beast :-)
100. # [00:18] <jduell> and now regular ld croaks because of unrecognized option '--icf=safe'
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102. # [00:18] <khuey> edmorley: 99% sure we're not using gold on tinderbox
103. # [00:19] <florian> Waldo: they are also staying there unfixed for years...
104. # [00:19] <jduell> khuey: even seen above -icf error?
105. # [00:19] <mbrubeck> Waldo: The advantage of a bug is that it gives me a place to tell you I've backed out you patch, when I back it out, which I do. :)
106. # [00:19] <taras> smaug: ping
107. # [00:19] <derf> Waldo: For those patches, I don't know. But consistency is good for automation, if nothing else.
108. # [00:19] <smaug> taras: pong
109. # [00:20] <mbrubeck> s/you patch/your patch/
110. # [00:20] <taras> smaug: so i filed 710927 because i would like to see how much cpu time is spent servicing webpage events, perhaps dom event is the wrong category
111. # [00:20] <khuey> jduell: nope, but I live on windows
112. # [00:20] <florian> could we have a generic bug for some known types of warnings, and just post there the changeset urls?
113. # [00:21] <taras> smaug: am i looking in the right place?
114. # [00:21] <taras> or do you have a better suggestion?
115. # [00:21] <Waldo> mbrubeck: I'm willing to take the risk to avoid process for the sake of process
116. # [00:21] <smaug> taras: what kinds of events are you talking about?
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118. # [00:21] <smaug> taras: event loop?
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121. # [00:21] <Waldo> mbrubeck: and be very very careful about no-bug stuff
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126. # [00:21] <taras> smaug: like i said timeouts and any other events webpages can observe
127. # [00:22] <mbrubeck> I'm not one to complain too loudly about people landing patches without bugs, but personally I find it takes about 20 seconds to file a bug, so I'm not sure what the benefit is either.
128. # [00:22] <taras> smaug: xhr, etc
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130. # [00:22] <smaug> taras: do you mean events, or places where C++ calls some JS ?
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132. # [00:22] <taras> smaug: i was hoping timeouts were handled as events internally
133. # [00:22] <cpeterson> Does anyone have bugzilla scripts to create bugs from the command line? :)
134. # [00:23] <taras> perhaps that's a wrong assumption
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138. # [00:24] <smaug> taras: I don't quite understand what kind of event are you talking about
139. # [00:24] <smaug> I think you mean something close to things which event loop handles
140. # [00:24] <smaug> nsIRunnables and such
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142. # [00:24] <taras> smaug: i have a very vague idea of what i want
143. # [00:25] <taras> smaug: i want to be able to do a top for your open tabs
144. # [00:25] <taras> smaug: ie assign blame on time spent processing webpages..and/or filter inputs into those webpages
145. # [00:25] <smaug> right. So you want to know when JS runs in page X, or when layout is flushed in page X
146. # [00:26] <taras> i think i'm less worried about layout
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149. # [00:26] <smaug> I wonder why
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151. # [00:26] <jdm> cpeterson: I know of at least one (which requires attaching a patch as well), and I'm pretty certain there's at least one other
152. # [00:26] <taras> since layout is triggered by a user explicitly doing something or some js(which i would be measuring already)
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154. # [00:27] <smaug> taras: well, JS can trigger layout changes, which happen usually asynchronously
155. # [00:27] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: I think is http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/2.16/html/cmdline.html is read-only, but could be extended to use the write APIs too...
156. # [00:27] <taras> smaug: ok so i want to look at that too
157. # [00:27] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: And there's the "bzexport" hg extension
158. # [00:28] <jdm> cpeterson: give http://k0s.org/mozilla/hg/bzconsole a shot?
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160. # [00:28] <smaug> taras: what about XHR? what are you interesting in that case?
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162. # [00:29] <smaug> taras: basically when XHR's load event fires and some JS is called?
163. # [00:29] <taras> yes
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165. # [00:30] <smaug> taras: I wonder how to do this all without slowing down things badly
166. # [00:30] <jdm> cpeterson: http://k0s.org/mozilla/hg/bzconsole/file/85357b075211/README.txt specifically mentions it being useful for filing bugs from the command line
167. # [00:31] <taras> smaug: i think as a first step it would be good to know how to do this
168. # [00:31] <taras> smaug: ie we could turn it on termporarily
169. # [00:31] <taras> temporarily
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172. # [00:31] <smaug> taras: I'm about to add code which gets triggered always when the outermost script execution ends
173. # [00:32] <smaug> that should help with this
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175. # [00:33] <taras> smaug: so can you suggest a recipe for doing this in the bug?
176. # [00:34] <smaug> k
177. # [00:34] <taras> thanks
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184. # [00:41] <bjacob> bhearsum|afk: finally got around to pinging a couple gfx people to look at the reftest and canvas2d mochitest failures (mattwoodrow and jrmuizel)
185. # [00:41] <bjacob> for what i've done... you could have done it too :)
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190. # [00:42] <bjacob> (maybe i should learn to use reftest-analyzer)
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198. # [00:45] <smaug> taras: another thing to count is generated garbage. I don't know whether it is possible to tag JS garbage to some tab, but it should be possible to tag at least DOM nodes to a certain tab
199. # [00:46] <taras> smaug: indeed
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211. # [00:57] <Unfocused> mbrubeck: i can see that ref fixing browser_addons.js (i wondered as much), but why does it fix it?
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213. # [00:57] <mbrubeck> Unfocused: Not sure exactly - I didn't investigate beyond testing to see which line caused the regression.
214. # [00:58] <Unfocused> hah
215. # [00:58] <Unfocused> ok
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218. # [00:59] <Unfocused> mbrubeck: i assume the desktop log contained more log lines?
219. # [01:00] <Unfocused> cos that would explain so so much
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221. # [01:00] <mbrubeck> Unfocused: It just timed out slightly later in the test -- nothing more informative.
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223. # [01:01] <Unfocused> yea, that's what i meant
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241. # [01:13] <rillian> Waldo|dinner, FWIW, I find the AM_SILENT stuff to just print "CXX file.cpp" instead of the full compile line, to make the warnings stand out more helpful motivation
242. # [01:13] <rillian> we could do that easily
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247. # [01:15] <hub> rillian: there was a discussion and a bug open about the new silent mode
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249. # [01:15] <hub> rillian: let me find the bz
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251. # [01:15] <rillian> oh cool
252. # [01:15] <rillian> I really like it, but I understand why people might not.
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254. # [01:16] <rillian> I'm used to having to remake with less -j to find command lines anyway, so adding V=1 doesn't seem like a burden
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256. # [01:16] <rillian> but reasonable people might feel differently
257. # [01:17] <hub> rillian: you can also add -s to MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS in the .mozconfig
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259. # [01:18] <rillian> hmm. normally that's useless, but I guess we have enough directories one still gets some progress feedback
260. # [01:19] <hub> rillian: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705332
261. # [01:19] <rillian> but the directory change lines are still noisy
262. # [01:19] <rillian> it's the contrast between the warning lines and the clean 'ACTION file' lines which really makes them stand out
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266. # [01:20] <hub> rillian: there is an option for that
267. # [01:20] <hub> rillian: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705332#c1
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270. # [01:20] <gps> if we had a driver around invoking make and were using the low-level PyMake API to invoke makefiles, we could have CLI arguments like —print-targets —print-directories etc and all would be happy
271. # [01:21] <gps> that is the only way you will satisfy all the parties. yes, it requires PyMake (unless you want to do ugly Makefile output parsing, which I'd rather not)
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273. # [01:22] <gps> and, yes, I have the groundwork for doing what I propose sitting in a branch somewhere :)
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277. # [01:24] <mayhemer> is here anyone able to help with link error while building comm-central?
278. # [01:25] <mayhemer> gkmedias.lib : fatal error LNK1120: 24 unresolved externals
279. # [01:25] <rillian> hub: I see. 'make -s' to silence the complete recipe, but the REPORT_BUILD define prints the filename
280. # [01:25] <rillian> thanks. I hadn't pulled since that was committed, so I didn't notice the change
281. # [01:26] <rillian> still not on par with SILENT_RULES or whatever it's called, but it's progress
282. # [01:26] <edmorley> mayhemer: sounds like fallout from bug 709721 perhaps
283. # [01:27] <hub> rillian: at one point it was on par
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286. # [01:27] <hub> rillian: then they suppressed it all, that's when I filed that bug
287. # [01:28] <mayhemer> edmorley: sound like..
288. # [01:28] <mayhemer> edmorley: don't you if I can switch the feature off in .mozconfig?
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291. # [01:29] <edmorley> mayhemer: try the followup fix in that bug locally perhaps/
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294. # [01:30] <mayhemer> edmorley: the first or the second patch?
295. # [01:30] <mayhemer> edmorley: "Move video" or "part 3"
296. # [01:31] <mak> mayhemer: part 3
297. # [01:31] <smaug> gavin: when a tab is activated, is nsIDocShell::isActive true, and is it otherwise false?
298. # [01:31] <mayhemer> mak: thanks
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302. # [01:32] <felipe> smaug: should be
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304. # [01:33] <gavin> smaug: yes (assuming by "activated" you mean "selected")
305. # [01:33] <felipe> smaug: it's also false if the window is minimized
306. # [01:33] <gavin> smaug: although, a selected tab can also be inactive, if the window it is in is minimized
307. # [01:33] <gavin> felipe: jinx
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309. # [01:34] <felipe> :D
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311. # [01:36] <smaug> gavin: felipe: ok, thanks
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317. # [01:40] <smaug> gavin: felipe: is it active also when the FF window isn't actually active?
318. # [01:40] <smaug> I assume it is
319. # [01:40] <gavin> yes
320. # [01:41] <gavin> background windows can still be visible so I think it would be bad to mark selected tabs in unfocused windows as "inactive"
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324. # [01:46] <njn> |mCurrent = false;| is great when mCurrent is an nsCOMPtr
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327. # [01:48] <njn> |*((char*) siteEnd) = NULL;| is equally interesting
328. # [01:49] <mwu> nsCOMPtrs can probably catch someone trying to assign a boolean now
329. # [01:50] <mwu> though I'd be surprised if it happened that often
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332. # [01:53] <mayhemer> mak, edmorley: confirming that Bug 709721 part 3 patch fixed the problem, thanks for help
333. # [01:53] <njn> mwu: GCC's -Wconversion-null catches it
334. # [01:53] <bsmith> "Matthew McPherrin - Platform - Leveling LevelDB or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the XPCOM"
335. # [01:53] <bsmith> We have completely corrupted at least one intern
336. # [01:53] <edmorley> mayhemer: np
337. # [01:54] <mcpherrin> So corrupted.
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339. # [01:55] <jdm> haha
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364. # [02:12] <NeilAway> grrr, inline history extension is too slow :-(
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372. # [02:17] <edmorley> NeilAway: bmo server side?
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391. # [02:35] <Hughman> njn: ping
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393. # [02:35] <njn> Hughman: pong
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396. # [02:36] <Hughman> njn: i just got a strange set of compartments in about:memory
397. # [02:36] <njn> Hughman: pastebin?
398. # [02:36] <Hughman> njn: *looks for pastebin*
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400. # [02:37] <njn> pastebin.mozilla.org :)
401. # [02:37] <njn> paste some text, hit "send", you get a link you can share
402. # [02:37] <njn> cut+paste about:memory into it
403. # [02:38] <smaug> about:memory?verbose is perhaps better
404. # [02:38] <Hughman> njn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1407116
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406. # [02:38] <njn> Hughman: interesting, but I have no idea what it means :)
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408. # [02:38] <Hughman> this was a restored session of mapcrunch and the page looks fine
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412. # [02:39] <smaug> about:neterror
413. # [02:39] <smaug> so firefox could load some page, but shows the network error page
414. # [02:39] <njn> smaug: "Nightly can't load this page for some reason."
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416. # [02:40] <Hughman> njn: so it looks like about 4MB of neterror messages which are never shown
417. # [02:41] * njn shrugs
418. # [02:41] <smaug> Hughman: you have only one tab open?
419. # [02:42] <smaug> does MapCrunch (I have no idea what that is) perhaps use lots of iframes
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421. # [02:42] <smaug> each of those iframes could for some reason load network error page
422. # [02:42] <smaug> (if there are iframe or such)
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424. # [02:43] <mbrubeck> edmorley++ for monster merge
425. # [02:43] <Hughman> ah yes... there is just enough space at the bottom of each map view for a like button which is currently grey
426. # [02:43] <edmorley> 55 csets merged, 39 left on inbound post last PGO green
427. # [02:43] <njn> Hughman: that'd be it
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430. # [02:44] <edmorley> mbrubeck: hopefully once the followup fix for 3 hr inbound pgo is landed and reconfig'd, it will be less of a problem trying to get a recent pgo green
431. # [02:44] * Hughman thinks its a waste of memory anyway since the error page itself cannot be read in that case
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433. # [02:45] <edmorley> mbrubeck: for now, I'm going to trigger a PGO just before I go to bed, so tomorrow morning I can merge ready for Waldo's regex spectacular
434. # [02:45] <mbrubeck> sounds good
435. # [02:46] <mbrubeck> and one of us North America people can merge from the 6AM or 9AM (US/Pacific) PGO changeset
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442. # [02:49] <Hughman> njn: sorry for wasting a bit of time. I was suprised to see a mass of repeating compatments when usually domains reuse compartments
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444. # [02:50] <njn> Hughman: np. there are some circumstances where reuse doesn't happen, I don't know the details, but I guess this is one of them
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446. # [02:53] <Waldo|dinner> rillian: I can totally believe that; I'd just make silent the default, if it were me, even filed a bug on it, but people wanted the compile command lines (notwithstanding they're printed for failing build steps) at the time, so it didn't happen
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452. # [02:57] <njn> rillian: I tried my best, but people love their noisy builds, it seems
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455. # [03:00] <roc> njn: just so you know, I often see a compartment leak involving nytimes.com
456. # [03:00] <njn> roc: addons?
457. # [03:00] <roc> no
458. # [03:00] <njn> roc: file a bug, please?
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460. # [03:01] <njn> (you knew I was going to say that, right?)
461. # [03:01] <roc> I have DOM Inspector, about:telemetry, and Font Information 0.1 only
462. # [03:01] * Waldo|dinner is now known as Waldo
463. # [03:01] <roc> I haven't found steps to reproduce yet
464. # [03:01] <njn> oh, so when you say "no" you mean "yes" :P
465. # [03:01] <Waldo> doesn't everybody?
466. # [03:01] <roc> I don't want to file a bug which has no actionable information
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468. # [03:01] <njn> roc: ok
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470. # [03:02] <njn> roc: experience has said that when you see a zombie compartment, it's 99% likely to be an addon
471. # [03:02] <roc> yes, I know
472. # [03:02] <roc> all these addons are Mozilla-owned so hopefully they're less likely to be guilty :-)
473. # [03:02] <njn> roc: should I ask you to review the gfxSurface removal patch, or someone else?
474. # [03:03] * njn laughs
475. # [03:03] <roc> joe
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477. # [03:03] <njn> roc: ok, thx
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493. # [03:18] <edmorley> mbrubeck: I'm going to mark the merge tomorrow, in case you think I've forgotten :-)
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496. # [03:19] <edmorley> believe it or not, I'm attempting to get to bed earlier (as you can see, my plan is working well...)
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500. # [03:26] <Unfocused> whoa!
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511. # [03:33] <philor> 2:30am? have we burned him out *already*?
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524. # [03:44] <philor> and in spectacularly late-breaking news, we finally ran opt Mac tests on gavin's push from 15:17
525. # [03:44] <philor> it didn't go well
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528. # [03:47] <philor> I'm 30+ minutes from a tree, so if anyone is closer to one, don't forget to put CLOSED TREE in your backout message
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533. # [03:50] <Tannerbaum> Does anyone here happen to know who narrated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udd765yVMc ?
534. # [03:50] <Tannerbaum> i'm only asking here because this channel has the most people, so there's (in theory) a higher chance of someone knowing :P
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538. # [03:54] * philor heads for home
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543. # [03:55] <nthomas> Tannerbaum: don't recognise that voice, suspect it's voice talent
544. # [03:57] <Tannerbaum> nthomas: Alright, thanks.
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548. # [04:00] <Unfocused> .. i have no idea what push philor was referring to
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550. # [04:01] <Unfocused> oh, i see it
551. # [04:02] * ewong|Zzz is now known as ewong
552. # [04:02] <darktrojan> why are we closed?
553. # [04:02] <philikon> was just about to ask the same
554. # [04:02] <darktrojan> apart from gavin's mess?
555. # [04:02] <philikon> tbpl doesn't say :/
556. # [04:03] * Unfocused shrugs
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558. # [04:03] <philikon> i guess m-i is pretty backed up
559. # [04:03] <Unfocused> well, m-c is open
560. # [04:03] <darktrojan> I see the infr is up to it's usual busy state again
561. # [04:04] * Unfocused changes topic to 'PHX is flapping. Bugzilla, Socorro, AMO, TBPL, etc affected || m-c: CLOSED m-i: CLOSED due to backlog || Next aurora uplift: 20th Dec || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction'
562. # [04:04] <Unfocused> we'd have seen the red earlier if it weren't for the backlog :\ safer to close m-c too, i think
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566. # [04:06] * Unfocused backs out
567. # [04:06] <darktrojan> oh well, a day or two of quick results was good while it lasted
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572. # [04:09] <Unfocused> ... turns out its been quite awhile since i pulled inbound
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575. # [04:11] <darktrojan> how many csets?
576. # [04:11] <Unfocused> 5089
577. # [04:12] <darktrojan> that's only about 3 weeks
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581. # [04:14] <darktrojan> do the tests run on the same machines as the builds?
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583. # [04:14] * darktrojan notices how many builders aren't doing much
584. # [04:16] <Unfocused> i dunno, i always forget what runs on what :\
585. # [04:16] <Unfocused> nthomas will know
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587. # [04:18] <nthomas> we have machines that compile, and machines that do tests (unit + talos)
588. # [04:18] <darktrojan> thought so
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592. # [04:19] <nthomas> anyone know if gavin clobbered when he landed that mac change ?
593. # [04:19] <nthomas> I haven't actually looked at the errors but naming changes are the sort of thing that require clobbers]
594. # [04:20] <Unfocused> no idea
595. # [04:20] * nthomas loads the clobberer page
596. # [04:21] <Unfocused> well, i just landed the backout
597. # [04:21] <Unfocused> other builds may need clobbering though :\
598. # [04:21] <nthomas> python mochitest/runtests.py '--appname=./FirefoxNightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
599. # [04:21] <nthomas> ./Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin' --utility-path=bin --extra-profile-file=bin/plugins --certificate-path=certs --autorun --close-when-done --console-level=INFO --symbols-path=../symbols --total-chunks 5 --this-chunk 1 --chunk-by-dir 4
600. # [04:21] <nthomas> ...
601. # [04:22] <nthomas> Error: Path /Users/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/FirefoxNightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
602. # [04:22] <nthomas> ./Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin doesn't exist.
603. # [04:22] <nthomas> Are you executing $objdir/_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py?
604. # [04:22] <nthomas> program finished with exit code 1
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606. # [04:22] <Unfocused> heh
607. # [04:22] <Unfocused> yep, that'd be why :P
608. # [04:22] <nthomas> and he'd look green on try, since that clobbers
609. # [04:23] <nthomas> last inbound clobbers for mac where 2011-12-15 03:33:07 PST, by edmorley
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612. # [04:25] <nthomas> so, I think you have a choice. 1, Stop the builds on your backout, set a clobber, order up some more; or 2, set a clobber, revert the backout
613. # [04:25] <nthomas> depending if you want it out and green, or take a punt
614. # [04:25] <darktrojan> it's gone green from mwu's push onwards
615. # [04:26] <darktrojan> @15:39
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617. # [04:26] <nthomas> not sure why that would be
618. # [04:26] * Unfocused sighs
619. # [04:26] <nthomas> unless all the builds have been clobbers via the normal channels of clobber-every-7-days, or clobber is space is required
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621. # [04:27] <darktrojan> I'll cancel the pending builds from earlier that are going to burn anyway
622. # [04:27] <Unfocused> i'll leave gavin to re-land it
623. # [04:27] <darktrojan> good idea?
624. # [04:27] <nthomas> more info might be better than less
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626. # [04:28] <darktrojan> actually they only last ~10 minutes anyway
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628. # [04:28] * jcranmer|away is now known as jcranmer
629. # [04:28] * philor|away is now known as philor
630. # [04:29] <Unfocused> yea, they should fail quickly
631. # [04:31] * darktrojan wanders away
632. # [04:32] <Unfocused> as an upside, a closed tree requires little maintenance :)
633. # [04:32] * qDot is now known as wuDot
634. # [04:32] <philor> depends on what it's up to, though
635. # [04:33] * wuDot is now known as qDot
636. # [04:33] <philor> like, say, it clobbered and picked up the naming change after a while, and thus has renamed objdirs that it will want to continue to use...
637. # [04:33] * philor loads the clobberer
638. # [04:33] * Unfocused facepalms
639. # [04:34] <philor> just got home from work, let me pull off these clownshoes and put on my clownshoes and I'll set it for the clobbers before the clobbers
640. # [04:34] <Unfocused> software is hard, lets go shopping
641. # [04:35] <philor> here's a fun race, will buildbot manage to tell tbpl whether or not the green-producing-ones were clobbers before the clobberer loads?
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644. # [04:37] <ewong> can someone explain why this works |http://build.mozillamessaging.com/tinderboxpushlog/?tree=Calendar-Aurora|, but this : |http://build.mozillamessaging.com/tinderboxpushlog/?tree=CalendarTrunk| gives me "Please enable JavaScript."?
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646. # [04:39] <philor> nice, first-context-menu-after-sleep crash, after I got the clobberer loaded
647. # [04:41] <philor> this is your chance, buildbot, you could break your usual 20 minute time and beat clobberer's second load...
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652. # [04:48] <rnewman> anyone planning a merge from m-i to m-c tonight?
653. # [04:48] <philor> they won't be planning it for, um, five or six or so hours, if they are
654. # [04:49] <rnewman> drat
655. # [04:49] <rnewman> I need one change to mobile's manifest
656. # [04:49] <rnewman> and it's stewing in inbound
657. # [04:49] * rnewman switches to developing against an inbound checkout
658. # [04:50] <philor> embrace the inbound!
659. # [04:50] <philor> except when it's totally busted!
660. # [04:50] <rnewman> heh
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662. # [04:51] <philor> seven letters, buildbot, that's all I need, just seven letters to save several hours
663. # [04:51] <catlee> I'm just waiting until somebody writes Tclobberer
664. # [04:51] <catlee> philor: what are you looking for?
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666. # [04:51] <philor> catlee: I need to know if the Mac opt builds on 10d8aa274341 and c2466854fa15 were clobbers
667. # [04:52] <catlee> on m-c?
668. # [04:52] <philor> m-i
669. # [04:52] <philor> sorry
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671. # [04:53] <philor> they may have the excuse that they're still running make check, dunno
672. # [04:53] <philor> or they may pop up on tbpl right now
673. # [04:53] <darktrojan> so, inbound went back to red after a few greens
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675. # [04:53] <philor> yep, no surprise there
676. # [04:53] <darktrojan> software \o/
677. # [04:54] <philor> both clobbers, we're golden
678. # [04:54] * philor bets our entire future on it
679. # [04:54] <darktrojan> meh, it's not my problem
680. # [04:54] * darktrojan goes out
681. # [04:55] <catlee> philor: yeah, they were both clobbers
682. # [04:55] <philor> thx
683. # [04:55] <catlee> finished 20 minutes ago
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686. # [04:56] <philor> okay, clobbered inbound because we had to whether or not we relanded gavin, because we had objdirs going both ways; relanded gavin because that way we at least get double-duty from the clobber+closure, and don't have to do both of those again to get him landed
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688. # [04:57] <catlee> you can always go scrounging around in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64/ if you're desperate
689. # [04:57] <philor> I had typed tinderbox-bu when you asked what I was after :)
690. # [04:58] <catlee> heh :)
691. # [04:58] <catlee> your awesomebar doesn't bring that up with just ti?
692. # [04:58] <philor> but without a rev-to-timestamp map, I was getting pretty desperate
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694. # [04:58] <philor> ti is "intermittent timeout exceeded in Android Tegra Talos"
695. # [04:59] <ewong> might anyone know about this? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1407216
696. # [04:59] <philor> tin out to tinderbox is admintree.cgi?tree=Firefox
697. # [05:00] * nthomas is now known as nthomas|away
698. # [05:02] <philor> ewong: for your tbpl problem, are you blocking JS with some addon or prefs, and enabling it with some pattern that matches one but not the other? the CalendarTrunk one works fine for me, last couple of times I've seen you asking about it in scrollbacks
699. # [05:03] <Unfocused> hahahaha http://whereswalden.com/2011/12/15/seen-during-a-recent-compile-of-mozilla-central-with-clang-offered-without-comment/
700. # [05:03] <ewong> philor: nope.. no blocking..
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702. # [05:04] <philor> shift+reload? or a psycho cache between you and it?
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704. # [05:05] <ewong> gonna try the clear-the-cache and see.. shift+reload doesn't work...
705. # [05:08] <philor> when we have that entrance exam to be a sheriff, we ought to put this situation on it
706. # [05:14] <Callek> Unfocused++ (and Waldo++ )
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717. # [05:29] <philor> maybe "jimb gets a slave that clobbered earlier, so he gets a quick and usable build, gets all green, then we only need one green on the relanding"
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731. # [05:42] <jdm> secretrobotron: I like your writeups about gladius - keep it up!
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739. # [05:59] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=ec45fad57ec6 - a shame to have wasted that on a tree where you don't have to star your own push :)
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775. # [06:52] <gavin> philor: thanks
776. # [06:53] <gavin> that's weird, I didn't have to clobber for that change before
777. # [06:53] <gavin> oh wait I guess that was try, nm
778. # [06:53] <philor> yeah, it'll burn you
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780. # [06:54] <philor> in my imaginary happy world, try builds you twice, once as a clobber and once as a depend from your push's parent
781. # [06:54] <philor> also? bacon trees and beer springs
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789. # [07:01] <KWierso> mozilla-central is now bacon
790. # [07:05] <jdm> crispy and delicious?
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792. # [07:08] <philor> sizzling was my guess, glad to see it's not
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794. # [07:09] <philor> grr, and those were not the results I wanted three down and five down inbound
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797. # [07:13] * philor takes another look over the edge at the exposure
798. # [07:15] * philor changes topic to 'PHX is flapping. Bugzilla, Socorro, AMO, TBPL, etc affected || m-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: 20th Dec || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction'
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804. # [07:31] <tbsaunde|busy> philor: is m-i actually ok to push to?
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806. # [07:32] <philor> tbsaunde|busy: yep, there's a teeny tiny bit of risk, but we're only, um, five pushes on top of the risk, that's not bad exposure for m-i
807. # [07:33] <philor> and it's Mac opt only risk, which is even more minimal
808. # [07:33] <tbsaunde|busy> philor: ok, thanks, what I just pushed is mpotb on mac opt so :)
809. # [07:34] <tbsaunde|busy> *npotb
810. # [07:35] <philor> yeah, I figured you'd be happy to take Mac opt only risk
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813. # [07:44] <philor> tbsaunde|busy: except you haven't pushed anything, did you lose a push race and not notice yet?
814. # [07:45] <KWierso> it's so not part of the build, you can't even see it
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817. # [07:48] <tbsaunde|busy> philor: hmm, maybe, thx
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856. # [08:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5efcb9c3b375 - Jan Varga - Bug 661877 - Enable storing files in IndexedDB. r=bent
857. # [08:42] <blizzard> !
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860. # [08:48] <KUNAL> how to enable logging for Image modules in mozilla
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867. # [08:56] <jdm> KUNAL: that depends. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=prlogmodule&find=image%2F&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central lists a bunch
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881. # [09:17] <NeilAway> edmorley: no, it's client-side js, and in this case it was slow enough to make ChatZilla time out
882. # [09:17] <NeilAway> oh he's not here
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891. # [09:28] <mrbkap> sicking: pong
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893. # [09:29] <sicking> mrbkap: i got the answer, thanks though
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898. # [09:33] <KUNAL> thanks #jdm
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902. # [09:39] <felipe> janv++
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905. # [09:39] <janv> heh
906. # [09:40] <felipe> storing files in indexeddb is awesome
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912. # [09:45] <janv> felipe: yeah, it's nice to have it
913. # [09:45] <janv> arrays as keys might be in FF 11 too
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915. # [09:48] <janv> hmm, so green so far :-)
916. # [09:54] <dolske> 100% green = trophy! just sayin/
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918. # [09:56] <KUNAL> what value needs to be set for NSPR_LOG_MODULES in order to see Image Module log
919. # [09:57] <jdm> KUNAL: probably ImgRequest:5
920. # [09:57] <jdm> er
921. # [09:57] <jdm> imgRequest:5
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923. # [09:58] <KUNAL> thanks #jdm
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927. # [10:02] <glazou> bonjour
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939. # [10:25] <imphil> sicking, ping
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941. # [10:25] <NeilAway> edmorley: it's client-side js, and in this case it was slow enough to make ChatZilla time out
942. # [10:26] <edmorley> ah
943. # [10:26] <sicking> imphil: pong
944. # [10:26] <edmorley> isn't th new b.m.o extension enough?
945. # [10:26] <edmorley> (server side, activate in prefs)
946. # [10:26] <imphil> sicking, will you have time to review bug 693615 before the aurora uplift or should I look for sombody else for review?
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948. # [10:27] <glandium> waw, angle landed on beta between b5 and b6
949. # [10:27] <NeilAway> edmorley: well, it's in prefs, but it uses client-side js, otherwise it wouldn't hang me...
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953. # [10:28] <edmorley> oh, sorry thought you meant a bugzilla tweaks variant (there are still people that use them, even though most features have been added to b.m.o directly now)
954. # [10:28] <sicking> imphil: can you ask bz to review. I don't quite understand what's going wrong there
955. # [10:28] <edmorley> though didn't realise it was still client side
956. # [10:29] <imphil> sicking, to quote bz: "Other than that, looks ok, but have Jonas review, please?" -- should I ask him anyway? ;)
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960. # [10:31] <sicking> imphil: i'll comment in bug
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962. # [10:31] <imphil> sicking, ok, thanks. let's hope there is some sort of cycle collector for this :)
963. # [10:32] <sicking> imphil: heh
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990. # [11:12] <glazou> uuuuuh, the cmd-U shortcut for the source view is gone from nightlies ?!?
991. # [11:13] <glazou> all webdevs use that **all the time**
992. # [11:14] <glazou> ah no
993. # [11:14] <glazou> bad profile
994. # [11:14] <edmorley> wfm
995. # [11:14] <glazou> sigh
996. # [11:14] <glazou> I was using a test profile
997. # [11:14] <glazou> and it was corrupted
998. # [11:14] <glazou> nm
999. # [11:15] <edmorley> I've never used cmd+u before, cmd+shift+i plenty
1000. # [11:15] <glazou> me too
1001. # [11:15] * edmorley is looking forward to tilt merging from fx-team
1002. # [11:16] <glazou> edmorley: what version of ff are you running now ?
1003. # [11:16] <edmorley> nightly
1004. # [11:16] <edmorley> wn32
1005. # [11:16] <edmorley> win32
1006. # [11:16] <glazou> can you open http://bluegriffon.org/pages/Community#localizeBlueGriffon and use the language dropdown in the middle of the page to select "nl" ? once you've done that, do you still see the table's borders ?
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1009. # [11:18] <edmorley> glazou: http://i43.tinypic.com/11lsev9.jpg
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1011. # [11:18] <glazou> weird
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1013. # [11:18] <glazou> on mac, the table is not entirely drawn
1014. # [11:18] <glazou> regression
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1016. # [11:18] * glazou updates his nightly just in case
1017. # [11:19] <glazou> thx edmorley
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1019. # [11:19] <edmorley> np
1020. # [11:19] <edmorley> :-)
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1028. # [11:25] * glazou sees a deep hole in the Force
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1031. # [11:26] <glazou> (and it's not related to the fact in czech national census, more than 15,000 czech identified themselves as Jedi Knights:) )
1032. # [11:26] <glob> cz++
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1040. # [11:35] <glazou> edmorley: bug 711359
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1044. # [11:40] <edmorley> ah
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1052. # [11:47] <KUNAL> hi #jdm
1053. # [11:48] <KUNAL> imgRequest:5 not working
1054. # [11:48] <KUNAL> i am working with 4.0.1 fireox code
1055. # [11:49] <KUNAL> NSPR_LOG_MODULE=mgRequest:5 not working
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1061. # [11:52] <KaiRo> 4.0.1 is ancient code
1062. # [11:52] <Waldo> morning, all
1063. # [11:52] <Waldo> gonna go for a jog, then will be back for mergepushdoubleplusfun
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1065. # [11:55] <nerovengene> About Javascript components in gecko2, since NSGetModule(compMgr, fileSpec) changed to NSGetFactory(cid), is there someway for the component to know its current path, like it was possible from older NSGetModule's fileSpec argument?
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1068. # [11:58] <KaiRo> nerovengene: not sure, why do you need that? keep in mind that in many cases, it isn't a real separate file on disk any more
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1072. # [12:04] <nerovengene> KaiRo: I had a mechanism which generated contractID's and also CIDs from ContractIDs based on file paths, on the fly.
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1075. # [12:06] <nerovengene> Is there someother way for a javascript component to know its current path?
1076. # [12:07] * NeilAway wonders what happened to the gamepad vibration article (it's in planet, but the link is broken)
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1079. # [12:08] <NeilAway> nerovengene: try __LOCATION__
1080. # [12:08] <NeilAway> or is that for modules?
1081. # [12:08] * NeilAway can't remember
1082. # [12:09] <regen> NeilAway: are you actively busy?
1083. # [12:09] <NeilAway> regen: busy as in I shouldn't be on IRC? yes
1084. # [12:10] <regen> NeilAway: is opt-in add-on installation message dialog being disabled?
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1087. # [12:12] <NeilAway> regen: I have no idea what you mean, try asking Mossop of Unfocused
1088. # [12:12] <regen> thanks!
1089. # [12:13] <regen> unfocused: not a hassle anymore but the add-on opt-in installation dialog is no longer present when antivirus software, like Norton, installed a firefox addon which can not be removed but only disabled
1090. # [12:14] <hsivonen> why does gcli.css use both box-sizing and -moz-box-sizing? it's uncool to have browser chrome cause Error Console messages
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1106. # [12:24] <darktrojan> morning
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1110. # [12:26] <regen> darktrojan: do you see my scrolled-up message?
1111. # [12:26] <darktrojan> nope
1112. # [12:26] <darktrojan> not unless it was 8 hours ago
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1115. # [12:29] <regen> darktrojan: Are you familiar with add-on installation process?
1116. # [12:30] <darktrojan> sort of
1117. # [12:30] <darktrojan> what's up?
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1130. # [12:46] <hsivonen> aargh. did webconsole unit tests move around in the repo?
1131. # [12:46] <hsivonen> yes. :-(
1132. # [12:47] <Waldo> hsivonen: we don't support box-sizing unprefixed?
1133. # [12:47] <hsivonen> Waldo: apparently not
1134. # [12:48] <darktrojan> nope
1135. # [12:48] <Waldo> although, if it were unprefixed, I think we might warn on an *unrecognized* -moz- property
1136. # [12:48] <Waldo> anyway
1137. # [12:48] <Waldo> unless someone shouts loudly, I'm closing the trees now to land bug 708735
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1139. # [12:48] <hsivonen> Waldo: right. so product code should include only the variant that's supported
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1141. # [12:49] <Waldo> hsivonen: sure
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1143. # [12:50] <edmorley> Waldo: which tree are you landing it on?
1144. # [12:50] <edmorley> as in, do you need me to pre-emptively merge inbound to m-c
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1147. # [12:52] <smaug> if I call this->somevirtualmethod, do compilers optimize out the slowness related to the virtual call?
1148. # [12:52] <smaug> er, no
1149. # [12:52] <smaug> ofc not
1150. # [12:53] <Waldo> edmorley: Ms2ger said to land on m-c and then merge that to m-i
1151. # [12:53] <gcp> nope
1152. # [12:53] <gcp> some modern CPUs might, but not on embedded
1153. # [12:53] <Waldo> edmorley: so I was going to use m-c
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1155. # [12:53] <edmorley> Waldo: ok cool
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1157. # [12:53] <edmorley> Waldo: there's a lot unmerged on inbound atm, so I'll merge dcf6e5163e63 across first
1158. # [12:53] <Waldo> edmorley: although I'd been developing against m-i, and while my last pull was of m-c, I don't know for certain that m-c has every push I would be pushing
1159. # [12:53] <Waldo> last one from inbound I had was jimb's push yesterday
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1161. # [12:54] <Waldo> as best I recall
1162. # [12:54] <Waldo> okay
1163. # [12:54] <Waldo> I have the tree admin page pulled up, message changed, just looking up sheriffpass now
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1165. # [12:54] <Waldo> edmorley: let me know once you've merged
1166. # [12:54] <Waldo> and I'll flip it
1167. # [12:54] <edmorley> sure
1168. # [12:55] <smaug> mounir: you know something about about:memory
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1171. # [12:56] <edmorley> Waldo: I timed the PGO manual triggers last night and merge to inbound such that it would be green ready for you, so should all just work out :-)
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1174. # [12:57] <Waldo> awesome
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1176. # [12:58] <Waldo> incidentally, while I had one patch to push yesterday, I realized it could be split into a mega-patch that changes all callers, then a mini-patch that actually removes the old typedefs
1177. # [12:58] <heeen> can someone explain how nsScreen::GetRect and nsDeviceContext::GetRect get the actual values
1178. # [12:58] <heeen> it looks like they just call each other
1179. # [12:58] <Waldo> so if by chance something does break, all that should be needed is backing out the mini-patch
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1181. # [12:58] * Waldo test-compiled both steps yesterday, to be safe
1182. # [12:58] <edmorley> :-)
1183. # [12:59] <edmorley> remote: added 69 changesets with 604 changes to 538 files
1184. # [12:59] <nerovengene> NeilAway: __LOCATION__ works in components. Thankx :)
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1187. # [13:01] <edmorley> Waldo: done; only 2 csets left on inbound (since not green enough), both build-ish so should be fine
1188. # [13:01] <Callek> heen: for questions like that dxr is your friend :-)
1189. # [13:01] <Callek> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/search.cgi?tree=mozilla-central&string=GetRect
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1194. # [13:05] * Waldo rebases a bit
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1200. # [13:08] <mounir> smaug: yes?
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1206. # [13:10] * Waldo triggers the push to m-c
1207. # [13:10] <smaug> mounir: nm
1208. # [13:10] <Waldo> although, it's going to fail, of course, because I forgot I closed the tree :-)
1209. # [13:10] * Waldo waits for that
1210. # [13:11] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1211. # [13:11] <edmorley> Waldo: did you save the old tree message?
1212. # [13:11] <Waldo> edmorley: it's commented out
1213. # [13:11] <edmorley> ah cool
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1215. # [13:12] <edmorley> just thought I'd say in case before tab was closed etc
1216. # [13:12] <Waldo> hm hm hm
1217. # [13:12] <Waldo> hg o lists more than just my changes
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1219. # [13:12] <Waldo> maybe I should clone a new m-c just to be safe
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1222. # [13:14] * Waldo decides to do that, out of an abundance of caution
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1225. # [13:15] <Waldo> the extra changes look like some m-i stuff that a pul --rebase decided needed to be rebased, seems
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1228. # [13:16] <Fallen|mac> what was that hgweb param to show diffs between two csets?
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1230. # [13:16] <Callek> Fallen|mac: do you just want the list of csets between two csets?
1231. # [13:17] <Fallen|mac> Callek: ideally a diff between revA and revB
1232. # [13:17] <Fallen|mac> on the web
1233. # [13:17] <Callek> if you meant you wanted an inter-diff (as in cset 4->cset 7) I don't know of a way to do it with hgweb
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1235. # [13:17] <Callek> (there may be,I just don't know it)
1236. # [13:17] <Waldo> oh man
1237. # [13:17] <Waldo> that could have been bad
1238. # [13:17] <Fallen|mac> then just the log I guess
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1242. # [13:17] <Callek> hg diff -r revA -r revB should do it
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1244. # [13:18] * Waldo did a |hg clone .clean-base/ m-c| locally, thinking to create ~/moz/m-c, but forgot he had a |m-c = ...| in his ~/.hgrc
1245. # [13:18] <Fallen|mac> I mean on hgweb :)
1246. # [13:18] <Waldo> but the CLOSED TREE hook saved me :-)
1247. # [13:18] * Waldo changes that command to ./m-c
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1249. # [13:18] <Callek> Waldo: yea that would have been bad
1250. # [13:18] <Fallen|mac> oh well, it won't work anyway since what I get as output shows non-calendar changesets
1251. # [13:19] <Waldo> not the end of the world -- think I would have just merged in m-i -- but still bad
1252. # [13:19] <Callek> Fallen|mac: ahh ok :-) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=c722928d8b69&tochange=803b01dcc589
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1254. # [13:19] <Callek> Fallen|mac: as just the first awesomebar result for the syntax
1255. # [13:19] <Callek> Fallen|mac: fromchange is _not_ inclusive
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1257. # [13:19] <Callek> Fallen|mac: so its the "base" of whatever you care about :-) (hope that makes sense)
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1259. # [13:21] * Waldo completes the clone, then a couple strips, now runs in/out to verify sameness
1260. # [13:22] <gabor> is it just me or zimbra is down?
1261. # [13:22] <khuey> zimbra wfm
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1265. # [13:23] <gabor> I see... I had problems with my isp today, maybe it's related...
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1269. # [13:25] * Waldo does final in/out checks before pushing into m-c
1270. # [13:27] <firebot> Check-in:
1271. # [13:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d6d732ef5650 - Jeff Walden - Bug 708735 - Use <stdint.h> types in JSAPI and throughout SpiderMonkey. Continue to provide the {u,}int{8,16,32,64} and JS{Uint,Int}{8,16,32,64} integer types through a single
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1273. # [13:27] <whimboo> khuey: heh :)
1274. # [13:27] <firebot> header, however, for a simpler backout strategy -- and also to ease the transition for embedders. r=timeless on switching the jsd API to use the <stdint.h> types, r=luke, r=dmandelin
1275. # [13:27] <khuey> whimboo: :-D
1276. # [13:27] <gabor> I don't get it... I can login to zimbra but then I just get a blank screen with a big zimbra logo in the middle, and nothing else
1277. # [13:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f879c54dffae - Jeff Walden - Bug 708735 - Remove the non-<stdint.h> {u,}int{8,16,32,64} and JS{Uint,Int}{8,16,32,64} integer types from the JSAPI. The public header added in the previous commit with the old
1278. # [13:27] <firebot> typedefs should ease migration for embedders. r=luke, r=dmandelin, pushing into a CLOSED TREE so the landing is smooth
1279. # [13:27] <Waldo> \o/
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1281. # [13:27] <Waldo> now, time to pull into m-i
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1284. # [13:28] <khuey> whimboo: fwiw, once we switch to 2010 this will be easier
1285. # [13:28] <khuey> whimboo: you can download vs 2010 for free
1286. # [13:28] <whimboo> khuey: would be great if we could get this done somehow. I kinda like to have a free solution for contributors
1287. # [13:28] <whimboo> ah cool
1288. # [13:28] * Waldo clones a new m-i, again out of an abundance of caution
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1292. # [13:29] <hendry> Hello, I'm trying to disable the #urlbar for extension chrome webc-noaddressbar in https://github.com/kaihendry/iceweasel-webconverger
1293. # [13:29] <Waldo> let a thousand clones bloom
1294. # [13:29] <hendry> However when I disabled #urlbar, the back/forward buttons seem disabled. This is a Firefox8 issue seemingly
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1296. # [13:32] <hendry> furthermore ctrl+l seems to pop up a modal dialog if #urlbar is { display: none} :(
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1298. # [13:33] <hendry> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711105
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1302. # [13:36] <Waldo> edmorley: so, should I wait for green on m-c before merging to m-i, or should I just merge, so I can reopen both trees as promptly as possible? not sure what's preferable here
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1304. # [13:36] <Waldo> waiting for green on m-c will be awhile, of course, but maybe that's the right thing to do
1305. # [13:36] * Waldo has the merge to inbound queued up and ready to push now
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1312. # [13:41] <edmorley> Waldo: sorry on conf call, yeah merge sounds fine
1313. # [13:41] <Waldo> no worries :-)
1314. # [13:41] * Waldo goes to push that merge
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1323. # [13:48] <NeilAway> khuey: still? isn't 2011 out, so they'll discontinue 2010?
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1325. # [13:49] * NeilAway wonders what hendry was expecting Ctrl+L to do with a hidden URLbar
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1329. # [13:52] <Waldo> edmorley: hate to bother one last time (I really should write up this whole process in a blog post), now that everything's landed, how long should I wait to reopen the trees now that everything's landed? til I see green on m-c, or earlier as I'd built the patches recently enough to be reasonably confident in them plus having a reasonably safe backout strategy?
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1331. # [13:52] <Waldo> blog post and MDN article both, probably
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1333. # [13:53] <khuey> NeilAway: hmm, didn't think of that
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1354. # [14:10] * Waldo examines red, which looks spurious just from the summary
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1357. # [14:14] * Waldo reads bug 539334
1358. # [14:14] <Waldo> nope, that's not it (chuck testa)
1359. # [14:16] <lurking> network issues ?
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1361. # [14:17] <mak> yeah, looks a network issue
1362. # [14:17] * Mano tries to figure out how to use binary streams to ready signed integers.
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1365. # [14:17] <Waldo> I couldn't find a dup, anyone else know of one?
1366. # [14:18] <glazou_lunch> mdn times out
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1370. # [14:19] <lurking> win32 m-c opt just went red also - looks like it lost a slave
1371. # [14:20] * Waldo looks at that
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1373. # [14:20] <Waldo> that Windows one doesn't look like a slave failure
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1375. # [14:21] <Waldo> error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'JSObject *(__cdecl *)(JSContext *,JSStructuredCloneReader *,uint32,uint32,void *)' to 'ReadStructuredCloneOp'
1376. # [14:21] <Waldo> that's going to be me
1377. # [14:21] * Waldo backs out the mini-patch to fix
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1379. # [14:21] <Waldo> wonder how that got missed when I built on Windows...
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1382. # [14:23] <Waldo> ah. ha. ha.
1383. # [14:23] <Waldo> jan varga's change
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1385. # [14:24] * edmorley thawps people not using inbound
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1387. # [14:24] * Waldo looks through that to see if it could reasonably be fixed with confidence at all
1388. # [14:24] <Waldo> reasonably fair :-)
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1390. # [14:24] <Waldo> yeah, his looks biggish, definitely gonna back out the mini-patch
1391. # [14:24] <edmorley> cool
1392. # [14:25] <edmorley> btw think merge to m-c might need clobber for os x, doing one now
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1399. # [14:29] <firebot> Check-in:
1400. # [14:29] * ewong|afk is now known as ewong
1401. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/80ac06ad280d - Jeff Walden - Backed out changeset f879c54dffae: 5efcb9c3b375 introduced more JSAPI users that need fixing for the <stdint.h> types, and it's not worth trying to do fixups for that commit now while
1402. # [14:29] <firebot> holding the tree closed. uint32/JSUint32 type removals will occur later today, after I reopen up a CLOSED TREE.
1403. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> :(
1404. # [14:30] <Waldo> don't worry, the hard/most conflicty part should stick
1405. # [14:30] <Waldo> and it's just one commit to fix, if I move fast
1406. # [14:31] <Ms2ger> khuey, remind me, does notxpcom imply noscript in pyidl?
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1408. # [14:32] <khuey> don't think so
1409. # [14:32] <khuey> but idk
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1412. # [14:34] <Waldo> Ms2ger: what does nsISupports.idl say for QueryInterface, seeing as that's not XPCOM any more?
1413. # [14:34] <Ms2ger> Waldo, hmm?
1414. # [14:34] <edmorley> Waldo: off the call now, sorry about earlier, is hard to type quietly when on open mic skype call
1415. # [14:34] <Waldo> no worries
1416. # [14:34] <Ms2ger> (Note that C++ includes of nsISupports.h don't see the IDL declaration)
1417. # [14:35] <khuey> Waldo: nsISupports is not reflected into js via the typelib
1418. # [14:36] * edmorley has just remembered he has 120 merge changeset to mark :-/
1419. # [14:36] <Waldo> I think I'm going to reopen the trees now, I'll deal with the kill-uint32 users in m-i (and hope nobody lands any more in m-c in the meantime :-\ )
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1421. # [14:37] <Waldo> trees are now open for business again
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1424. # [14:38] <Waldo> and if anyone lands any more u?int(8|16|32|64) users, I am going to shoot them :-P
1425. # [14:38] <Waldo> (said as lovingly as possible, natch)
1426. # [14:38] <espindola> jrmuizel, ping
1427. # [14:38] <RemusPop> hey guys, do you know where I could find the doorhanger that appears when installing an addon?
1428. # [14:38] <jrmuizel> espindola: pon
1429. # [14:38] <jrmuizel> g
1430. # [14:38] <espindola> in 708051
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1432. # [14:38] <espindola> it is not clear if you want to know what others think
1433. # [14:39] <espindola> before it is pushed
1434. # [14:39] <espindola> and if so, who :-)
1435. # [14:39] <jrmuizel> espindola: actually, I think it would be good to ask review by a build peer
1436. # [14:39] <jrmuizel> and then maybe joe
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1438. # [14:40] <Enn> RemusPop: you want to find where in the code it is implemented?
1439. # [14:40] <espindola> jrmuizel, so ted and then joe is ok?
1440. # [14:40] <jrmuizel> espindola: yeah that would be great
1441. # [14:41] <espindola> ok
1442. # [14:41] <RemusPop> Enn, yes; my search skills on mxr are not the best
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1444. # [14:41] <Enn> RemusPop: around at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#683
1445. # [14:41] * Ms2ger double-checks his patches for Waldo
1446. # [14:42] <RemusPop> thanks Enn
1447. # [14:42] <Enn> RemusPop: the switch block at line 704 handles each type of notification
1448. # [14:42] <hsivonen> is there a known certificate problem on the hacks blog?
1449. # [14:42] <hsivonen> its cert is only valid for join.mozilla.org
1450. # [14:43] <RemusPop> Enn, thank you again; I'm trying to find out why sometimes the doorhanger hangs at 100% and the modal-dialog for installing the addon doesn't appear
1451. # [14:45] <Enn> RemusPop: that code might not help you as it sound like an issue in the addons code instead. you might ask mossop to help
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1457. # [14:52] <Pike> gerv: I'm trying to get the content https://api-dev.bugzilla.mozilla.org/0.9/configuration?flags=0&cached_ok=1 updated. I tried querying without cached_ok, and that shows the updates, but doesn't change the cache?
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1459. # [14:57] <Pike> seems I somehow got the data in
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1473. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> Looks like we're done
1474. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> Except for the hidden bugs
1475. # [15:05] <edmorley> Ms2ger: nice, thanks :-D
1476. # [15:05] <Waldo> done with which?
1477. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> Marking bugs
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1479. # [15:06] <Waldo> ah
1480. # [15:06] <edmorley> Ms2ger: msg me the bugs #s or urls and I'll send sort them out
1481. # [15:06] <Ms2ger> 7a6b3a3c0a92
1482. # [15:06] <edmorley> thanks for helping, I wasn't looking forward to doing that!
1483. # [15:06] <Ms2ger> And ab1bb6660d5c
1484. # [15:06] <Ms2ger> Np :)
1485. # [15:08] <hendry> NeilAway: in a kiosk mode webcnoaddressbar ctrl+l should not show a dialog, because a user isn't supposed to alter the urlbar
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1488. # [15:09] <NeilAway> glob|away: what's the limit on comments on the inline history extension? I'm getting slow script warnings on bugs with 100 comments
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1490. # [15:10] <NeilAway> hendry: sure, but the Ctrl+L function doesn't know about kiosk mode
1491. # [15:12] <hendry> NeilAway: fine, but I need a way to disable it next. As well as making back/forward buttons work with #urlbar is not shown.
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1493. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> Waldo, how about passing PRUint32* to JS_GetArrayLength?
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1495. # [15:13] <Waldo> Ms2ger: no good
1496. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/44777be25060#l1.186
1497. # [15:13] * davehunt is now known as davehunt|away
1498. # [15:14] <Waldo> Ms2ger: I'm pretty sure PRUint32 is not the same as the stdint.h type on every platform
1499. # [15:14] * rail_away is now known as rail
1500. # [15:14] <Ms2ger> Yeah, sounds like trouble
1501. # [15:14] <Ms2ger> 1.224 + nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMWindow> domWindow =
1502. # [15:14] <Ms2ger> 1.225 + do_QueryInterface(static_cast<nsIDOMWindow*>(win));
1503. # [15:14] <Waldo> it *might* possibly work everywhere, I dunno
1504. # [15:14] <Waldo> but that's pretty happenstancy if it does
1505. # [15:14] <Waldo> note that I mostly only fixed stuff that caused compile errors
1506. # [15:14] <Ms2ger> Mm
1507. # [15:15] <Waldo> a very few spot-fixes when fixing the compile errors, where I noticed surrounding code could use a fix
1508. # [15:15] <Waldo> but mostly just compile error fixing
1509. # [15:15] <Waldo> I figure better to leave as much to mass conversions as possible, more or less
1510. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> And hal's got its own uint32, no?
1511. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Yeah, makes sense
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1519. # [15:21] <lurking> Waldo: red on win32 debug build from the backout
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1521. # [15:22] <Waldo> sigh
1522. # [15:22] <Waldo> looking at it
1523. # [15:22] <Waldo> I bet the jsapi.h include, or whatever, is after one that includes a header that defined uint32
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1527. # [15:26] <Waldo> having multiple headers use the PROTYPES_H include guard is one of those ideas that seems a clever hack to fix a problem
1528. # [15:26] <Waldo> but really it creates more
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1532. # [15:29] <Waldo> testing out a fix now
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1534. # [15:29] <Waldo> gonna do at least a partial Windows build to verify
1535. # [15:29] <edmorley> Waldo: I'll close in the meantime
1536. # [15:29] <Waldo> okay
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1539. # [15:36] <Waldo> churning away on a Windows build still
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1545. # [15:42] * Waldo is building in dom/
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1547. # [15:43] <khuey> you need a faster machine
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1549. # [15:44] <Waldo> it's a 16GB core2 or something desktop, and I am using pymake here
1550. # [15:44] <Waldo> wonder what's up
1551. # [15:44] <@bz_away> In a worker, how do I postMessage to the window it was created from?
1552. # [15:44] <Waldo> and those changes seem to have passed IDBObjectStore.cpp
1553. # [15:44] <edmorley> khuey: I can't seem to find the peak vsize figure in the logs, "peak vsize" is the correct thing to search for yeah?
1554. # [15:44] <Waldo> which was the big worry point (I read through the entire patch to see what changes needed to be made, and I think only those were it)
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1556. # [15:45] <khuey> edmorley: 302 ted
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1558. # [15:45] <@bz_away> oh, I see
1559. # [15:45] <khuey> bz_away: just call postMessage on the global
1560. # [15:45] <@bz_away> hrm
1561. # [15:46] <@bz_away> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_web_workers talks about self.postMessage
1562. # [15:46] <edmorley> ah "linker max virtual size"
1563. # [15:46] <@bz_away> whattup with that?
1564. # [15:46] <Waldo> there's no |var self = this;| in some example code upward?
1565. # [15:46] <@bz_away> nope
1566. # [15:47] <@bz_away> search the page for "self"
1567. # [15:47] <khuey> http://dev.w3.org/html5/workers/#the-workerglobalscope-common-interface
1568. # [15:47] <khuey> self is equivalent to window in the normal world
1569. # [15:47] <@bz_away> I see
1570. # [15:47] <@bz_away> ok
1571. # [15:47] <@bz_away> thanks!
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1573. # [15:49] <Waldo> given the set of files changed by the indexeddb change and where I am in a build, I'm confident in my fix; pushing now
1574. # [15:49] <Mavericks|afk> heather arthur here by chance ? or anyone familiar with add-on builder ?
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1576. # [15:50] <Waldo> Mavericks|afk: that's harth, I think, and at 06:44 in California it seems unlikely
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1579. # [15:50] <Mavericks|afk> i'm trying to use https://github.com/harthur/bz.js for add-on as a module, and especially https://github.com/harthur/bz.js/blob/master/lib/bz.js
1580. # [15:50] <Mavericks|afk> Waldo: oh, ok
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1586. # [15:53] <davidb> what's going on with windows builds?
1587. # [15:53] <Waldo> I'm pushing a fix now
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1590. # [15:53] <davidb> \o/
1591. # [15:53] <Waldo> it's kind of a long story
1592. # [15:53] <davidb> then i don't need to hear it
1593. # [15:53] <davidb> :)
1594. # [15:53] * edmorley was actually quite enjoying the pretty autumn colours on tbpl :-)
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1596. # [15:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3bf9653c4e46 - Jeff Walden - Bug 708735 - Update IDBObjectStore to use the <stdint.h> types for its JSAPI interactions. r=bustage in a CLOSED TREE :-\
1597. # [15:54] <edmorley> although guess it's a bit late for autumn, actually started snowing here for 20 mins earlier, not that it's settled
1598. # [15:54] <Waldo> we had snow in MI last week and early into this week
1599. # [15:54] <Waldo> then it got warm
1600. # [15:55] <Waldo> it's 40s/50s now or something, snow's gone
1601. # [15:55] <Waldo> sadfaces
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1603. # [15:55] <edmorley> well I would have quite liked it if it had settled, but alas it had to melt and cause the roof to leak some more :-(
1604. # [15:56] <Waldo> ugh
1605. # [15:56] <Waldo> it's interesting looking at people's roofs after a lot of snow
1606. # [15:56] <Waldo> the ones that are covered, you know they've got good insulation
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1608. # [15:57] <Waldo> the ones that aren't, you know their heating bills are higher than similar nearby houses, all else equal
1609. # [15:57] <Ms2ger> Also, the one place where it doesn't immediately turn into sludge
1610. # [15:57] <@bz_away> GAH
1611. # [15:57] * @bz_away hates hates hates stupid library authors
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1613. # [15:57] * bz_away is now known as bz
1614. # [15:58] * Waldo pulls m-c into m-i
1615. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> Welcome to the web, bz?
1616. # [15:58] <Mavericks|afk> bz: wait what why the hate ? how come ? ( some strong reason)
1617. # [15:59] <Waldo> libraries tend to rely on all sorts of crazy things
1618. # [15:59] <Mavericks|afk> bz: sorry if i interrupted
1619. # [15:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: http://code.google.com/p/thermetics-forum-extensions/source/browse/war/static/scripts/jq-plugins/jquery.hive.pollen.js?spec=svn5f5ffae146171444927274bf9ce76edeeb0d65b6&r=5f5ffae146171444927274bf9ce76edeeb0d65b6#608
1620. # [15:59] <Waldo> and libraries tend to entrench awfulnesses they depend on
1621. # [15:59] <edmorley> Waldo: well funny you should say that, out of desperation, I climbed out onto the roof (weird roof access hatch thingy) and think I've managed to patch it up a bit using some spare tiles. Who knows what anyone walking past would have thought, with me + mop + 4 floors up on a flat part of the roof trying to get the pools of water off
1622. # [15:59] <Waldo> because libraries don't get updated
1623. # [15:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: guess what happens when someone uses that library in a worker?
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1625. # [15:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: and tries to use the results of the xhr immediately after dispatching it?
1626. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> ...
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1629. # [16:01] <@bz> it saddens me to see that |navigator| is even exposed in workers. :(
1630. # [16:01] <khuey> Waldo: gps's buildbot in #pymake claims you're still broken
1631. # [16:01] <@bz> and somewhat surprising, actually
1632. # [16:02] <Waldo> ##@(C?!?
1633. # [16:02] <Ms2ger> I guess you could claim that navigator.onLine is useful
1634. # [16:02] <khuey> Waldo: actually, that looks like a problem with his setup
1635. # [16:02] <khuey> Waldo: carry on
1636. # [16:02] <@bz> http://dev.w3.org/html5/workers/#workernavigator
1637. # [16:02] <@bz> Ms2ger: yes
1638. # [16:02] <Waldo> ...sigh
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1640. # [16:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: was your "..." just you being speechless? ;)
1641. # [16:03] * Waldo pushes into m-i
1642. # [16:03] <Waldo> maybe this time we keep things closed until Windows cycles :-(
1643. # [16:03] <Waldo> once bitten, twice shy
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1646. # [16:04] <Mavericks|afk> sorry for my ignorance is the worker you just mentioned the same worker object used for add-on sdk/builder ?
1647. # [16:05] <@bz> hrm
1648. # [16:05] <@bz> so wait
1649. # [16:05] <@bz> this confuses me
1650. # [16:05] <@bz> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('safari/') != -1
1651. # [16:05] <Waldo> probably he means a worker in a webpage
1652. # [16:05] <@bz> tests false for us, right?
1653. # [16:05] <@bz> so this thing should end up async...
1654. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> I sure hope so
1655. # [16:05] <Mavericks|afk> Waldo: yes, i just checked link bz posted.
1656. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> Console says yes
1657. # [16:05] <khuey> it tests false in my error console
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1659. # [16:05] <Wes_> it does indeed
1660. # [16:05] <@bz> oh
1661. # [16:05] <khuey> as I would hope it would!
1662. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> (But who knows what bent did in workers? :))
1663. # [16:05] <@bz> this code passes options.sync as the third arg to open()
1664. # [16:06] <@bz> idiots
1665. # [16:06] <Waldo> heh
1666. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Hah
1667. # [16:06] * khuey mumbles about strong typing being good for the soul
1668. # [16:06] <Waldo> tell us what you really think!
1669. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> khuey, er...
1670. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> They pass the right type
1671. # [16:07] * jfkthame is now known as jfkthame_afk
1672. # [16:07] <khuey> Ms2ger: nah, those should be enums
1673. # [16:07] <khuey> booleans suck
1674. # [16:07] * Ms2ger shrugs
1675. # [16:07] <khuey> Waldo: you can't handle the truth
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1677. # [16:07] <tbsaunde|busy> strong minds weak types etc
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1679. # [16:07] <@bz> So the caller should pass "sync: false"
1680. # [16:07] <@bz> to get sync behavior
1681. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> This API sucks
1682. # [16:08] * Waldo tries removing the uint32/JSUint32 types in a build post-IDBObjectStore-fix
1683. # [16:09] <@bz> So let me reiterate: buggy as shit libraries
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1685. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> And a horrible API
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1687. # [16:11] <@bz> well
1688. # [16:11] <@bz> just a buggy api, no?
1689. # [16:11] <Waldo> "I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations"
1690. # [16:11] <@bz> it's a bog-standard options object api
1691. # [16:12] * Waldo thinks sync XHR is what was meant
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1693. # [16:13] <davidb> wow that is bad
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1700. # [16:16] <gerv> Pike: ping?
1701. # [16:16] <Pike> gerv: pong
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1703. # [16:17] <gerv> Looks like it's one cache per thread, not one cache globally :-|
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1705. # [16:17] <Pike> ouch
1706. # [16:17] <gerv> There are 10 threads per API endpoint.
1707. # [16:17] <gerv> I've bounced the webserver; that should fix it :-)
1708. # [16:17] <Pike> thanks
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1712. # [16:19] * @bz mutters about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302566
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1716. # [16:19] <@bz> Waldo: and yeah. Clearly the options object is fine; it's passing options.sync for an argument called "async" that's a bit fishy
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1720. # [16:20] <@bz> hmm
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1722. # [16:21] <@bz> do we have a good way to write testcases for situations where script is disabled?
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1724. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> litmus?
1725. # [16:22] <@bz> ok
1726. # [16:22] * @bz assumes litmus doesn't exist
1727. # [16:22] <@bz> since I never see bugs filed on us failing litmus tests
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1729. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Maybe we don't fail them :)
1730. # [16:23] * philor|away is now known as philor
1731. # [16:23] <@bz> that seems ... unlikely
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1733. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> So either we're good, or the tests suck
1734. # [16:23] <@bz> more likely no one ever adds any
1735. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Probably the latter
1736. # [16:23] <@bz> esp because I know I don't
1737. # [16:23] <@bz> because I have no idea how to
1738. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> You set the flag and hope :)
1739. # [16:24] <@bz> oh, I do that
1740. # [16:24] <@bz> I have yet to see any of those flags change
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1744. # [16:25] <Cwiiis> so, is m-c actually open?
1745. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> No
1746. # [16:25] <edmorley> hence the "CLOSED" on tbpl :-)
1747. # [16:25] * edmorley changes topic to 'PHX is flapping. Bugzilla, Socorro, AMO, TBPL, etc affected || m-c: CLOSED m-i: CLOSED || Next aurora uplift: 20th Dec || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction'
1748. # [16:25] <Cwiiis> right - just there's a big "OPEN" in the topic of this channel :)
1749. # [16:25] <Cwiiis> aww, that's cheating...
1750. # [16:25] <edmorley> hehe
1751. # [16:25] <Waldo> heh
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1753. # [16:26] <Waldo> I hope we're not dogged by this sort of thing for long, and/or that people at least push to m-i and get backed out to learn the error of their ways
1754. # [16:26] <edmorley> Cwiiis: the status you see on tbpl determines whether the tree closure hook stops you, the channel topic is a measure of how much caffeine the sheriffs have had that day :-)
1755. # [16:27] * Waldo is on his third cup of tea, personally
1756. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Waldo, that's an excellent idea
1757. # [16:28] <hsivonen> is "PHX is flapping" the reason why m-i is still gray instead of green?
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1759. # [16:28] * Ms2ger starts a build and goes off for tea
1760. # [16:28] <Waldo> no, has nothing to do with it
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1762. # [16:28] <bhearsum> grey is just pending or building afaik
1763. # [16:28] <Callek> well without checking it could also be a symptom of builds-4hr.json being out of date as well
1764. # [16:28] <hsivonen> bhearsum: yeah, but it's been pending for quite a while already. I was wondering if TBPL has trouble reading the results
1765. # [16:29] <@bz> ok
1766. # [16:29] <@bz> so here's a question
1767. # [16:29] <@bz> I want a review for a small change to frame constructor code
1768. # [16:29] <Waldo> Windows takes forever and a day to build, ala{s,ck}
1769. # [16:29] <@bz> I don't want to bother roc with it for once
1770. # [16:29] <@bz> what are my other options? :(
1771. # [16:29] <Ms2ger> Mm
1772. # [16:29] <Ms2ger> Sparky?
1773. # [16:29] * @bz guesses tn
1774. # [16:29] <Waldo> bz: tn?
1775. # [16:30] <@bz> yeah
1776. # [16:30] <@bz> ok
1777. # [16:30] <Waldo> :-)
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1779. # [16:30] <Waldo> curate those reviewers!
1780. # [16:30] <Callek> bz: convince someone who is a contributor to take it as a goodfirstbug and get yourself to review it :-P
1781. # [16:30] <@bz> Callek: too late; I wrote the patch
1782. # [16:30] * Waldo suspects adding to bz's queue is not a win condition
1783. # [16:30] <@bz> Callek: and this is not so much a good first bug
1784. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> Mm
1785. # [16:30] <@bz> Waldo: I'm _almost_ on top of it
1786. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> Adding to bz's patch queue?
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1788. # [16:30] <Waldo> *applause*
1789. # [16:30] <Callek> well it can be if you're "mentor" :-)
1790. # [16:30] <@bz> Waldo: just in time for me to go on vacation
1791. # [16:31] <Waldo> ah. ha. ha.
1792. # [16:31] <@bz> callek: well, perhaps
1793. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> When is the first day? I'll dump a couple dozen patches into it so people are scared off :)
1794. # [16:31] * davehunt|away is now known as davehunt
1795. # [16:31] <@bz> Ms2ger: unclear
1796. # [16:31] <Waldo> bz: where to? and will you be around Boston MLK weekend next month?
1797. # [16:31] <@bz> Ms2ger: I'm traveling starting Tuesday, but I'm not on vacation the whole time
1798. # [16:32] <@bz> Waldo: DC, and yes
1799. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Waldo, please don't backout, I'm rebasing on top of you :)
1800. # [16:32] <hsivonen> bz: do you have a test case for DoneCreatingElement on <button>?
1801. # [16:32] <Waldo> heh
1802. # [16:32] <@bz> Waldo: mlk is 16th or something, right?
1803. # [16:32] <Waldo> bz: thereabouts
1804. # [16:32] <@bz> hsivonen: not offhand
1805. # [16:32] <@bz> waldo: yeah, I should be here
1806. # [16:32] <@bz> hsivonen: I can try to write one if you can't come up with one, I guess
1807. # [16:32] * Waldo wonders how much he would tempt fate to push the remove-uint32/JSUint32 patch now
1808. # [16:32] * Ms2ger has a look
1809. # [16:32] <Waldo> it builds locally
1810. # [16:33] <@bz> hsivonen: putting a <script> inside the <button> that messes with whatever state DoneCreatingElement cares about should work
1811. # [16:33] <Waldo> probably should wait til Windows cycles
1812. # [16:33] <Waldo> (what's new)
1813. # [16:33] <hsivonen> bz: ok
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1816. # [16:33] <Waldo> edmorley: all that OS X red, is that clobbertime fail?
1817. # [16:34] <@bz> back in a few
1818. # [16:34] * bz is now known as bz_away
1819. # [16:34] <Waldo> from the original m-i->m-c merge hours ago
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1824. # [16:37] <Cwiiis> edmorley, hah :)
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1828. # [16:46] <edmorley> Waldo: yeah, clobbered since
1829. # [16:46] <jesup> Wow is bugzilla slow (probably the 10000th time that's been said here)
1830. # [16:46] <Ms2ger> Yes
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1832. # [16:47] <ted> jrmuizel: there are some warnings i've only recently noticed in our windows builds
1833. # [16:47] <ted> e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-pgo\build\gfx\cairo\libpixman\src\pixman-mmx.c(166) : warning C4799: function 'to_uint64' has no EMMS instruction
1834. # [16:47] <ted> three of those for three different functions
1835. # [16:48] <jrmuizel> ted: I believe the callers of those functions have emms
1836. # [16:48] * tbsaunde|busy is now known as tbsaunde
1837. # [16:48] <ted> interesting
1838. # [16:48] <ted> can we just silence the warnings then?
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1846. # [16:55] <Bas> ted: Have you ever seen the error [Errno 22] invalid mode (`w`) or filename: `ipdl_yacctab.py` ? Or is my tree comehow corrupt.
1847. # [16:56] <ted> i can't say i have
1848. # [16:56] <ted> that's PLY erroring trying to write the generated parser
1849. # [16:56] <Bas> :s I have no idea what this could be.
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1851. # [16:57] <ted> our IPDL parser is in python, using PLY, which is roughly python lex-yacc
1852. # [16:57] <ted> it generates python code for the lexer/parser the first time it's run
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1854. # [16:57] <ted> so it's erroring during that step for some reason
1855. # [16:58] <Bas> ipdl_yacctab.py certainly exists in my objdir.
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1870. # [17:01] <robcee> augh!
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1875. # [17:05] * Waldo is extremely glad he chose such an off time to land this stuff
1876. # [17:05] <Waldo> ...at least from a North American perspective
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1892. # [17:15] <ted> edmorley++
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1896. # [17:15] <Waldo> dunno the reason, but I concur
1897. # [17:16] <ted> i couldn't possibly grant him enough karma
1898. # [17:16] <ted> in this case it's because he discovered bug 711478 by trawling through build logs
1899. # [17:16] <Waldo> we're into the 711s already? sheesh
1900. # [17:17] <espindola> Is DumpJSStack know to be broken?
1901. # [17:17] <espindola> I am getting:
1902. # [17:17] <espindola> Assertion failure: hasSlot() && !hasMissingSlot()
1903. # [17:17] <espindola> any time I call it :-(
1904. # [17:17] <Waldo> there's a fix for it
1905. # [17:17] <Waldo> I'm not sure the status of it getting its way into trees, offhand
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1907. # [17:18] <Waldo> espindola: bug 710516
1908. # [17:18] <espindola> Waldo, thanks!
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1913. # [17:22] <Waldo> well, Win opt built
1914. # [17:22] <Waldo> that's a start
1915. # [17:22] <Waldo> at this point might as well wait for debug too
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1918. # [17:24] <edmorley> \o/
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1920. # [17:24] <Waldo> I think once I get debug, I'm going to push the patch to remove uint32/JSUint32, then merge it to m-i, then declare victory
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1922. # [17:24] <Waldo> and reopen everything
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1925. # [17:25] <Waldo> because it's ludicrously easy to keep adding uses of this stuff, and nipping it early is safer than trying to wait for a m-i pull to pick up that extra bit of change
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1929. # [17:27] <philor> tree state's pretty much "fucked" right now, though - your unbound push has been waiting for Windows build slaves to exist for over an hour
1930. # [17:27] <philor> closed is a pretty good status for that
1931. # [17:27] <Ms2ger> :(
1932. # [17:27] <Waldo> you're the expert at this :-)
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1940. # [17:32] <Ms2ger> Huh
1941. # [17:32] <Waldo> it seems to be defined in a clang build
1942. # [17:33] <Waldo> not sure if that's spec-compliant or not
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1953. # [17:37] <Mano> in what context does filereader's onloadend run?
1954. # [17:37] <Mano> it cannot access anything in my global object
1955. # [17:38] <Waldo> "A virtual function declared in a class shall be defined, or declared pure (10.4) in that class, or both; but no diagnostic is required (3.2)." [class.virtual]p11
1956. # [17:38] <Waldo> interesting
1957. # [17:38] <Waldo> at least in C++11
1958. # [17:38] <Waldo> p8 in C++98
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1966. # [17:42] <Waldo> mm, and Windows debug is now built \o/
1967. # [17:43] <Waldo> perhaps I wait on win64 just to be safe, still
1968. # [17:44] <philor> ted: should we also be staying closed for 711478 since if we landed something that took us over the limit yesterday afternoon, we wouldn't know it yet?
1969. # [17:44] <jesup> !seen roc
1970. # [17:44] <firebot> roc was last seen 13 hours, 42 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying 'yes' in #gfx.
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1972. # [17:44] * Waldo still has the type-removal patch queued up for when he decides he's satisfied with the tree
1973. # [17:45] <Waldo> jesup: it's Saturday there, too
1974. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> And 5:40AM
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1976. # [17:45] <philor> armenzg (and the way your jobs got picked up) says that the Windows build slave shortage is fixed, so that's not holding us closed anymore
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1982. # [17:50] <ted> philor: sort of
1983. # [17:50] <ted> philor: it's probably intermittent
1984. # [17:50] <ted> because non-clobber PGO builds would have leftover pgd files from previous builds, so they'd get built with optimization
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1986. # [17:51] <philor> okay, I'm afk until after 10, so somebody else is going to have to make the calls
1987. # [17:51] <ted> k
1988. # [17:51] <ted> if we're already closed we might as well stay closed till we fix it
1989. # [17:51] <ted> should be a small patch
1990. # [17:51] * philor is now known as philor|away
1991. # [17:51] <Waldo> ted: infrastructure patch, or to m-c code?
1992. # [17:52] <ted> m-c
1993. # [17:52] <Waldo> ted: I have one last small followup ready to push before reopening, too
1994. # [17:52] <BenWa> How does the 'Unresponsive script' dialog pause running script? It appears to pause the script until you hit 'continue'
1995. # [17:53] <Waldo> ted: happy to push both at once, if you can serve up the small patch to me
1996. # [17:53] <ted> Waldo: i have to write it first
1997. # [17:53] <ted> heh
1998. # [17:53] <Waldo> I got time :-)
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2000. # [17:54] <BenWa> ted: Is there a bug for fixing event tracing on linux?
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2003. # [17:55] <ted> BenWa: yes
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2006. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> Urgh
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2009. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> Still broken crash stacks on tinderbox :/
2010. # [17:56] <ted> if i could find it
2011. # [17:56] <BenWa> Yea, me neither :(
2012. # [17:57] * Waldo settles down for leftover pineapple, anchovy, and jalapeno pizza
2013. # [17:57] <ted> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710296
2014. # [17:57] <ted> aha
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2016. # [17:58] <ted> Ms2ger: link?
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2018. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=7981661&tree=Firefox
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2025. # [18:01] <ted> Ms2ger: hrmph
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2030. # [18:06] <Ms2ger> Waldo, so, stuff left to land?
2031. # [18:06] <lurking> Waldo: for some reason I'm not seeing win64 build on tpbl - m-c
2032. # [18:07] <Waldo> hmm
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2034. # [18:07] <Waldo> it used to show...
2035. # [18:07] <Waldo> Ms2ger: just http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408150
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2037. # [18:08] <lurking> maybe tbpl is just being wonky
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2041. # [18:09] <lurking> Waldo: ahhh, this it is ' green even'
2042. # [18:09] <Waldo> whee, yeah
2043. # [18:09] <Waldo> it's green now
2044. # [18:09] <Waldo> now just waiting for that PGO patch from te d, I think
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2046. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> From tenacious d?
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2048. # [18:11] <Waldo> sure, why not
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2051. # [18:13] <ted> trying to get my tree in a reasonable state
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2053. # [18:14] <Waldo> story of my day :-)
2054. # [18:14] <@bz> man
2055. # [18:14] <Waldo> I think I cloned a tree at least three times today
2056. # [18:14] <@bz> bugzilla is so effing slow
2057. # [18:14] <@bz> like "interfering with my work" slow
2058. # [18:14] <Waldo> and copied patches from mq to mq about an equal number of times
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2060. # [18:15] <@bz> setting a review flag on a patch takes over a minute
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2062. # [18:16] * @bz wonders what's going on
2063. # [18:16] <@bz> It's only about 4s latency to wget a bug...
2064. # [18:16] <@bz> but maybe this is running into lots of 4s latencies?
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2078. # [18:21] <jesup> bz: seriously ("interfering with work")
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2081. # [18:22] <jesup> khuey: ping
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2083. # [18:22] <jesup> works better if he isn't away...
2084. # [18:23] <jesup> khuey|away: ping when you get a chance. I'm about to go to lunch myself
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2087. # [18:24] <froydnj> mak: given your comment about mozilla::services:: -> services:: in bug709205, ok to drive-by-fixup the other mozilla::services:: in the files touched? (or even all of places/)
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2090. # [18:24] <mak> froydnj: where it's defined, should be ok. there isn't great value in doing it though
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2092. # [18:25] <froydnj> mak: where 'using namespace mozilla' is in effect, you mean?
2093. # [18:25] <mak> yep
2094. # [18:25] <@bz> ok
2095. # [18:26] * @bz tries to figure out where the canonical place is to file a hive.pollen bug
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2100. # [18:26] <froydnj> mak: ok, will just touch the files already being tweaked. thanks!
2101. # [18:27] <mak> bz: bugzilla is damn slow for me too, many seconds to post a 3 lines patch
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2103. # [18:27] <@bz> perhaps https://github.com/rwldrn/jquery-hive/issues ?
2104. # [18:27] <mak> froydnj: makes sense, yw!
2105. # [18:27] * @bz wonders whether he can post an issue there without a github account
2106. # [18:27] <@bz> Apparently not
2107. # [18:27] <Ms2ger> "*aRefCnt--"
2108. # [18:27] <@bz> Does someone who has one want to do that for me?
2109. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> Is that correct? I get "warning: value computed is not used"
2110. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> bz, if you tell me what to write
2111. # [18:28] <biesi> Ms2ger, that is not correct
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2113. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> Good
2114. # [18:28] * Ms2ger gets on a pedestal
2115. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> We should enable WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS
2116. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> Thank you.
2117. # [18:28] <@bz> Ms2ger: one sec
2118. # [18:28] <biesi> (gets interpreted as *(aRefCnt--)
2119. # [18:28] <biesi> )
2120. # [18:28] * froydnj cheers for Ms2ger
2121. # [18:28] <@bz> Ms2ger: two separate bug reports
2122. # [18:29] <armenzg> do we run the linker with /OPT:REF?
2123. # [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: http://code.google.com/p/thermetics-forum-extensions/issues/detail?id=32
2124. # [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: http://code.google.com/p/thermetics-forum-extensions/issues/detail?id=33
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2126. # [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: I filed those in what I thought was the right place, but it clearly isn't
2127. # [18:29] <Ms2ger> OK.
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2129. # [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: where is that aRefCnt code, dare I ask?
2130. # [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: and thanks@
2131. # [18:29] <@bz> er, !
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2134. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> Window utils
2135. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> Just landed
2136. # [18:30] <@bz> ah, ok
2137. # [18:30] <@bz> new code
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2141. # [18:30] * @bz is glad someone is still reading all commits
2142. # [18:30] <biesi> I'm somewhat surprised to see a refcount pointer
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2145. # [18:31] <@bz> it's returning 3 refcounts
2146. # [18:31] <@bz> 1940 PRInt64 aId, PRInt32* aRefCnt,
2147. # [18:31] <@bz> 1941 PRInt32* aDBRefCnt, PRInt32* aSliceRefCnt,
2148. # [18:32] <biesi> interesting
2149. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Even seems to have tests
2150. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=fileRefCount&filter=%28[GSgs]et|\b%29[Ff]ileRefCount
2151. # [18:32] <@bz> Ms2ger: hrm
2152. # [18:32] <@bz> Ms2ger: how do those pass?
2153. # [18:32] <biesi> hum, does that mean I'm wrong?
2154. # [18:33] <biesi> I am fairly sure I'm right...
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2156. # [18:33] <Ms2ger> biesi, gcc seems to agree with you
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2158. # [18:33] <@bz> man
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2160. # [18:33] <@bz> and this hive.pollen thing claims that it's for making it possible to write cross-browser worker code
2161. # [18:33] * @bz cries
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2163. # [18:33] * Waldo updates tinderbox statuses to the present situation
2164. # [18:33] <@bz> and it's been out there for over a year... :(
2165. # [18:34] <@bz> so it's been imported into all sorts of stuff in its broken state
2166. # [18:34] <jesup> bz: and we all know how good web devs are at updating the things they import :-(
2167. # [18:34] <@bz> jesup: indeed
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2170. # [18:34] <@bz> Ms2ger: do let me know once you file those?
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2173. # [18:35] <@bz> fwiw
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2175. # [18:35] <@bz> as far as * and -- go
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2177. # [18:35] <@bz> my K&R says -- has higher precedence
2178. # [18:35] <@bz> So at least biesi, gcc, and K&R agree
2179. # [18:35] <@bz> implying that it's true
2180. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> Will do
2181. # [18:36] * @bz should probably create a github account one of these days...
2182. # [18:36] <janv> ms2ger, bz: I'll fix it
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2184. # [18:37] <janv> however, it seems to pass on all platforms :)
2185. # [18:37] <janv> pass tests
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2187. # [18:38] <@bz> janv: that's the confusing part, yes
2188. # [18:38] <@bz> janv: are the tests non-buggy?
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2190. # [18:38] <janv> yeah
2191. # [18:38] <janv> it works w/o problems
2192. # [18:39] <jlebar> Can we sprintf to an nsACString?
2193. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> bz, https://github.com/rwldrn/jquery-hive/issues/7 and https://github.com/rwldrn/jquery-hive/issues/8
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2195. # [18:40] <jlebar> Wow, if that isn't an argument against having boolean parameters to API functions, I don't know what is!
2196. # [18:40] <@bz> jlebar: nsPrintfCString ?
2197. # [18:40] * jlebar bookmarks that bug report
2198. # [18:40] <jlebar> bz, Oh, cool.
2199. # [18:40] <jlebar> bz, Thanks. :)
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2201. # [18:41] <ted> Ms2ger: i think RelEng broke this
2202. # [18:41] <@bz> jlebar: no problem
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2204. # [18:41] <@bz> jlebar: just watch out for the length footgun
2205. # [18:41] <ted> looking at that log file, they unzip the symbols to PWD=/Users/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/symbols
2206. # [18:41] <ted> but then they run
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2208. # [18:41] <@bz> jlebar: depending on what you're trying to sprintf
2209. # [18:41] <ted> python reftest/runreftest.py --appname=./FirefoxNightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin --utility-path=bin --extra-profile-file=bin/plugins --symbols-path=../symbols reftest/tests/layout/reftests/reftest.list
2210. # [18:41] <ted> PWD=/Users/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build
2211. # [18:41] <Ms2ger> :/
2212. # [18:41] <ted> so it's looking for symbols in /Users/cltbld/talos-slave/test/symbols
2213. # [18:41] <jlebar> bz, sigh, 15 characters ought to be enough for anyone.
2214. # [18:42] <jlebar> I guess I'll have to do it myself.
2215. # [18:42] <ted> Ms2ger: probably fallout from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693352
2216. # [18:42] <ted> file a new bug?
2217. # [18:42] <edmorley> Waldo: I'm afk until Monday now (gf just arrived), so I won't be around to reopen etc
2218. # [18:42] <ted> edmorley: have a nice weekend, we'll sort it out
2219. # [18:42] * mcote is now known as mcote|lunch
2220. # [18:42] <jlebar> Oh, I see...I can specify a length.
2221. # [18:42] <jlebar> okay.
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2223. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> See you
2224. # [18:42] <ted> you did a lot this week :)
2225. # [18:42] <Waldo> edmorley: no problem, I'll be around -- thanks for the help!
2226. # [18:42] <Waldo> no kidding
2227. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> s/this week//
2228. # [18:42] <edmorley> ted, Ms2ger: thanks, have a good weekend too :-)
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2230. # [18:42] <Waldo> no kidding
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2232. # [18:42] <@bz> jlebar: oh, we fixed the footgun!
2233. # [18:42] <jlebar> (This is not much better than calling sprintf myself. Figuring out the length is the whole point!)
2234. # [18:43] <@bz> jlebar: or so the comments claim
2235. # [18:43] * armenzg is now known as armenzg_lunch
2236. # [18:43] <@bz> jlebar: in that not fitting in the length makes it allocate, not just truncate
2237. # [18:43] * Ms2ger grumbles at people who just dump hashes in bugs instead of links to hgweb
2238. # [18:43] <ted> srs
2239. # [18:43] <ted> not so hard to copy paste
2240. # [18:44] <@bz> er...
2241. # [18:44] <jlebar> bz, It appears that it'll truncate to the length you gave it.
2242. # [18:44] <@bz> except maybe the commentsl ie?
2243. # [18:44] <jlebar> snprintf truncates.
2244. # [18:44] <@bz> yeah
2245. # [18:44] <jlebar> so lame.
2246. # [18:44] <@bz> oh, I see
2247. # [18:44] <@bz> yeah
2248. # [18:44] <@bz> this is stupid
2249. # [18:44] <@bz> ted: easier, in fact
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2253. # [18:45] <ted> can i just give up on getting anything i planned to done this week and declare MFBT?
2254. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> You can write some mfbt code?
2255. # [18:46] <ted> hah
2256. # [18:46] <@bz> oh, I see
2257. # [18:46] <ted> did you file that bug yet?
2258. # [18:47] <@bz> bugzilla slowness is knon
2259. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> I ccd you on a bug
2260. # [18:47] <@bz> er, known
2261. # [18:47] <@bz> alright
2262. # [18:47] <ted> bz: btw, i think releng broke stacks on tinderbox
2263. # [18:47] <ted> if you missed that
2264. # [18:47] <ted> Ms2ger: thx
2265. # [18:47] <@bz> ted: I missed that, but that would make sense
2266. # [18:47] <@bz> ted: in the "set of people who can break that" sense
2267. # [18:47] <ted> yeah
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2270. # [18:47] <ted> i mean, we fiddled some of that automation.py code recently, so i looked at it for a sanity check
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2274. # [18:48] <ted> bug 711179 for anyone playing along at home
2275. # [18:49] <ted> *sigh*
2276. # [18:49] <ted> why is my hg pull taking 4ever
2277. # [18:50] <ted> there it goes
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2281. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> Whoa
2282. # [18:54] <joe> </keanu>
2283. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> bz, your bugs are fixed :)
2284. # [18:54] <catlee> what did we break?
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2286. # [18:55] <ted> catlee: stacks from tinderbox crashes
2287. # [18:55] <catlee> inpossible
2288. # [18:55] <jlebar> catlee, I think that word does not mean what you think it means...
2289. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> ispossible?
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2298. # [18:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: indeed, I saw
2299. # [18:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: good stuff
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2301. # [18:59] <Waldo> ted: patching 711478 still? just curious on status of that effort
2302. # [19:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: (almost as good as not putting code like that on the web)
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2305. # [19:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: now just have to make all consumers update their code... :(
2306. # [19:00] <Ms2ger> Mm
2307. # [19:00] * Ms2ger goes off
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2309. # [19:01] * @bz really hopes web script doesn't use "window.something" too much
2310. # [19:03] <ted> Waldo: yeah, fought hg there briefly, was thinking about how to fix it
2311. # [19:03] <catlee> is PGO unbusted yet?
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2313. # [19:03] <mbrubeck> Is there an ETA for re-opening the tree? I'd like to do an m-i to m-c merge at some point in the next couple of hours, if possible.
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2315. # [19:04] <Waldo> mbrubeck: waiting on ted's PGO patch for bug 711478
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2318. # [19:05] <Waldo> mbrubeck: note that there are only like four changes in m-i that aren't in m-c
2319. # [19:05] <ted> catlee: working on it
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2325. # [19:06] <Waldo> some useful fruit of a precondition to the super-early-morning landing I've half-pulled off so far
2326. # [19:06] <mbrubeck> Waldo: Ah yeah, I don't actually have any new PGO-green changesets to merge. So nevermind.
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2328. # [19:06] <Waldo> :-)
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2330. # [19:06] <catlee> silent errors FTL
2331. # [19:07] <catlee> ted: can we add some check that the profile data actually exists?
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2335. # [19:09] <ted> catlee: i was just thinking about that
2336. # [19:09] <ted> i think so, yeah
2337. # [19:09] <ted> we can make pgomerge.py error in certain circumstances
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2344. # [19:10] <catlee> fail early, fail often
2345. # [19:11] <ted> heh yeah
2346. # [19:11] <ted> we don't want it to always error
2347. # [19:11] <ted> because some things might legitimately not get profiled
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2351. # [19:11] <ted> but libxul should definitely always have profile data
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2357. # [19:13] <khuey> jesup: pong
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2362. # [19:18] <NeilAway> BenWa: it's just like any modal dialog
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2365. # [19:19] <BenWa> NeilAway: I mean I didn't think we could pause JS script
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2367. # [19:19] <khuey> BenWa: define pause
2368. # [19:19] <khuey> you can spin up a nested event loop
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2370. # [19:19] <NeilAway> BenWa: depends on what you mean by pause... a script pauses if it calls alert()
2371. # [19:19] <khuey> which looks an awful lot like a pause
2372. # [19:20] <BenWa> khuey: I assume you can't access the DOM
2373. # [19:20] <khuey> who is "you"
2374. # [19:20] <BenWa> My test case is: http://people.mozilla.com/~ajuma/omtc/Flash.html
2375. # [19:20] <BenWa> Flash continue to plays when the dialog comes up
2376. # [19:21] <khuey> right
2377. # [19:21] <BenWa> So is this method hacky? If not we should let other things run when a script doesn't return
2378. # [19:21] <BenWa> We should prevent long running scripts for locking up the browser
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2382. # [19:21] <BenWa> or even the content tab
2383. # [19:21] <khuey> well flash continues to run because it's in another process ...
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2385. # [19:21] <BenWa> khuey: It needs the main thread to composite
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2387. # [19:22] <khuey> right
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2389. # [19:22] <khuey> and before the slow script dialog stays up no pixels get painted
2390. # [19:22] <khuey> s/stays/comes/
2391. # [19:22] <khuey> but the audio keeps going because flash does that on its own
2392. # [19:22] <BenWa> So why not use this method to periodicly let plugins paint
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2394. # [19:23] <rillian> SOPA hearings continue at http://stream.zaytoon.hidayahonline.net:8000/sopa.ogv if anyone's interested
2395. # [19:23] <BenWa> khuey: So people don't care about plugins but we could also let CSS animate for example: http://people.mozilla.com/~ajuma/omtc/CSS.html
2396. # [19:23] * mbrubeck is sad that https://developer.mozilla.org/demos/detail/runfield/launch is pretty much unplayable in his Firefox because of pauses (GC?), while it runs perfectly in Chrome
2397. # [19:24] <mbrubeck> can't wait for incremental GC in Spidermonkey
2398. # [19:25] <BenWa> mbrubeck: It's pretty smooth for me
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2400. # [19:25] <mbrubeck> I'm using a pretty old machine (Core 2 Duo)
2401. # [19:25] <khuey> BenWa: well interrupting js is fraught with peril
2402. # [19:25] <mbrubeck> It pauses noticeably every few seconds -- just long enough to prevent me from jumping over a hole. :P
2403. # [19:25] <khuey> BenWa: we do it for the slow script dialog because the alternative is just to let the browser hang
2404. # [19:25] <BenWa> khuey: Right ok, so it is hacky
2405. # [19:26] <Waldo> ted: is the patch in 711478 ready to go? should I add it to my tree and push it with my patch now?
2406. # [19:26] <@bz> how do people feel about me adding a getter for inIDOMUtils on SpecialPowers?
2407. # [19:26] <khuey> awesome my firefox just hung
2408. # [19:26] * @bz is not quite sure that would be enough
2409. # [19:26] <mwu> mbrubeck: smooth here on my mbp with a c2d
2410. # [19:26] <BenWa> khuey: Wait for the dialog
2411. # [19:26] <ted> gavin: ^^ waldo
2412. # [19:26] <BenWa> The label was quite clear :P
2413. # [19:26] <gavin> Waldo, ted: just pushed
2414. # [19:27] <khuey> BenWa: no, this is unrelated
2415. # [19:27] * mbrubeck is running Aurora 10 on 32-bit Ubuntu 11.04
2416. # [19:27] <Waldo> gavin: ...sigh, I had another thing to push at the same time
2417. # [19:27] <Waldo> I guess I'll push separately
2418. # [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3749f921ee90 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 711478: fix regression from bug 696436 that broke Windows PGO builds, r=ted, landing on CLOSED TREE so that we can reopen it
2419. # [19:27] <mwu> 5 day old nightly on osx 10.6
2420. # [19:27] <gavin> thought you'd already landed your change
2421. # [19:27] <khuey> BenWa: it's not so much that it's hacky
2422. # [19:27] <Waldo> no, I was going to batch
2423. # [19:27] * lurking wonders why these demo's never have a volume control :(
2424. # [19:27] <khuey> BenWa: the problem is that it breaks the run to completion model
2425. # [19:27] <Waldo> I landed most of it, but not quite all of it
2426. # [19:27] <lurking> BTW, its smooth here
2427. # [19:28] <khuey> the implementation on our side is mostly sane
2428. # [19:28] <ted> Waldo: might as well reopen the tree now
2429. # [19:28] <ted> rather than sitting around waiting for PGO builds
2430. # [19:28] <Waldo> ted: will do once I push my last little hunk
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2432. # [19:28] <Waldo> should just be a minute
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2434. # [19:28] * Waldo built it on his Windows box so is confident in it
2435. # [19:29] <Waldo> just checking outgoing now
2436. # [19:29] <mwu> though it seems to get worse as I play more
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2438. # [19:30] <cpearce> jaws: nice blog post on proggit!
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2441. # [19:32] <firebot> Check-in:
2442. # [19:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7cc472108eb4 - Jeff Walden - Bug 708735 - Really remove the uint32/JSUint32 typedefs now that all users have been fully corrected. r=luke, r=dmandelin from the original change, landing in a CLOSED TREE (which
2443. # [19:32] <firebot> can open now!)
2444. # [19:32] <Waldo> merging m-c to m-i now, then I'll open up
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2448. # [19:35] <Waldo> m-i is merged now
2449. # [19:35] <Waldo> opening up the trees, finally
2450. # [19:36] <ted> hoorj
2451. # [19:36] <gavin> is that "hooray" in dutch?
2452. # [19:36] <Waldo> thijnk so
2453. # [19:36] <ted> beats me
2454. # [19:37] <ted> i think i saw it in pokey the penguin
2455. # [19:37] <snorp> yay trees
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2459. # [19:38] * Waldo changes topic to 'PHX is flapping. Bugzilla, Socorro, AMO, TBPL, etc affected || m-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: 20th Dec || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction'
2460. # [19:38] <wg9s> Waldo: Issue with all of this is that this should probably more correctly have been done at the beginning of a cycle rather than 4 days before the next uplift. Just a thought.
2461. # [19:39] <Waldo> wg9s: sicking had that thought; I'm not sure it makes a difference, really, as this is not actually a complex change to deal with
2462. # [19:40] <bent> bz, is the browser's js heap really unlimited?
2463. # [19:40] <wg9s> Waldo: issue is closing the tree for so long when others are trying to get stuff landed that needs to make the uplift.
2464. # [19:41] * davehunt is now known as davehunt|away
2465. # [19:41] <gavin> tree wasn't closed for that long
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2467. # [19:41] <Waldo> wg9s: it wouldn't have been closed but for a confluence of things, and also, that
2468. # [19:41] * lurking thinks intra issues, and 'fat libxul' was more of an impact than Waldo's closing
2469. # [19:42] <Waldo> wg9s: also keep in mind it was a 4am ZST closure; it's still early morning for CA now, so many people likely missed it completely
2470. # [19:42] <Waldo> less early, but still not late
2471. # [19:42] <khuey> lurking: well, some are avoidable, some aren't
2472. # [19:42] <robcee> hey friends
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2474. # [19:43] <wg9s> Justt rying to say for next time landing earlier in the cycle for things like this would probably be a better path. Just Sayin.
2475. # [19:43] <robcee> I would like to merge fx-team to central
2476. # [19:43] <khuey> no
2477. # [19:43] <robcee> yes
2478. # [19:43] <froydnj> mu
2479. # [19:43] <joe> espindola: fwiw you can have multiple reviewers; when first attaching a patch you can separate people with commas, and later you get an "additional reviewer" field
2480. # [19:44] <Waldo> if we feel we shouldn't land in m-c just yet (I am kind of sympathetic), we could keep it closed for a bit just to be safe
2481. # [19:44] <Waldo> s/could/should/, arguably
2482. # [19:44] <espindola> joe, cool, thanks
2483. # [19:44] <robcee> so, we don't have any c++ code and I would really like to get it in
2484. # [19:44] <robcee> preferably to bake over the weekend
2485. # [19:45] <wg9s> Nexct uplift is on the 20th closing the tree 4 days before would seem to me to be something to try to avoid in the future. That is all I am trying to say. Not trying to critisize what went on her, just saying we should try to aviod doing this agian.
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2487. # [19:45] <robcee> well, considering all the other outages we've had in the past week or so, this is really starting to be a problem
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2489. # [19:46] <robcee> thank you
2490. # [19:47] <ted> i think you should just merge, personally
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2492. # [19:47] <robcee> status was updated on m-c, I'm merging now
2493. # [19:47] <robcee> but thanks for your vote!
2494. # [19:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cc283f4ffdec - Jared Wein - Bug 708150 - Error text for media resource 404 is misleading when the requested media resource format or mime type is unsupported. r=dolske
2495. # [19:50] <wg9s> Robcee: That was kind of my shoe point the tree has been closed for infrstucture reasons and now we are closing it this late inthe cycle for something that coudl easily have waited till firefox 12 so I just dont get it.
2496. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19772fffc1f5 - Hugo Tavares Reis - Bug 676187 - Ensure fileContents are freed, fixed a memory leak in toolkit/mozapps/readstrings/readstrings.cpp. r=bbondy
2497. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6346cddd3c0 - Jared Wein - Bug 710967 - Incorrect argument passed to strncmp in AffixMgr::parse_convtable. r=gavin
2498. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c135571daddf - Mihai Sucan - Bug 683172 - Source Editor should automatically set up Undo/Redo key bindings; r=rcampbell
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2500. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/67500e02c844 - Paul Rouget - Bug 710878 - Bookmark label can omit part of the text in the link; r=dietrich
2501. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/97b8cff2764f - Carlo Alberto Ferraris - Bug 376997 - Images should be rendered against a neutral background. r=bz ui-r=limi
2502. # [19:50] <wg9s> Seems to me we need a rule about things that becuase of their nature reaquire a tree closere to land dannot occur within a week of the uplift.
2503. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cb4feeed6ac5 - Victor Porof - Bug 689920 - Integrate Tilt with existing Firefox developer tools; r=cedric,msucan,rcampbell
2504. # [19:50] <wg9s> seems like a reasonable rule to me.
2505. # [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac22a1aae263 - Rob Campbell - merge fx-team to m-c
2506. # [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/18d3b3a1f605 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 702861 - browser chrome mochitests trigger uncaught JS exception in CssHtmlTree.jsm; r=dcamp
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2508. # [19:51] <robcee> wg9s: I'm with you there.
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2511. # [19:51] <robcee> same goes for patches to improve the build infrastructure. If it's a week before the uplift, don't take the trees down.
2512. # [19:51] * Waldo thinks we have enough bandwidth for team-tree merges
2513. # [19:52] <robcee> hope so!
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2515. # [19:52] <wg9s> Things that disruptive to the codebase shoul not be landing that close to the Aurora uplift.
2516. # [19:52] <robcee> anyway, I hate rules. I'd just like people to be aware of it.
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2520. # [19:54] <wg9s> robcee: I know but common sense seems to not be working.
2521. # [19:54] <khuey> what's common sense?
2522. # [19:54] <robcee> :)
2523. # [19:54] <ted> i don't think it's as big a deal as you're making about it
2524. # [19:55] <KWierso> khuey: it's what I say is right
2525. # [19:55] <KWierso> duh
2526. # [19:55] <ted> i mean, yeah, probably a good idea for the future
2527. # [19:55] <ted> but this wasn't horribly disruptive or anything
2528. # [19:55] <robcee> ted: tree's been closed all day
2529. # [19:55] <ted> the fact that we found a regression in the middle of it didn't help
2530. # [19:55] <robcee> that is kind of disruptive
2531. # [19:55] <mwu> my day's just started
2532. # [19:55] <Ashe> lame question, is the mouse's back button broken in nightly or is it just my mouse being stupid?
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2534. # [19:56] <gavin> robcee: "all day"?
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2536. # [19:56] <robcee> gavin: I can check backscroll for when I started considering a merge
2537. # [19:57] <robcee> it was at least 4 hours ago, which, I guess, is some part of a day.
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2539. # [19:57] <robcee> maybe I hyperbolized a little, but I haven't really been awake much longer than that :)
2540. # [19:58] <robcee> so for me, from my perspective, in my timezone and with my lazy sleep schedule, it's been ALL DAY.
2541. # [19:58] * mdas is now known as mdas|afk
2542. # [19:58] <gavin> heh
2543. # [19:58] <robcee> I may have a nap
2544. # [19:58] <robcee> this mergine has really tired me out
2545. # [19:58] * bear is now known as bear-afk
2546. # [19:58] <robcee> merginG
2547. # [19:58] <gavin> mergine sounds like a delicious french delicacy
2548. # [19:59] <wg9s> So, not trying to criticize people here just thinking perhaps some tighter control closer to the uplift might be advised here.
2549. # [19:59] <Pike> gavin: or some grumpy old french lady
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2551. # [19:59] <derf> Pike: There's a difference?
2552. # [19:59] <robcee> gavin: now I have a craving for lemon meringue pie.
2553. # [19:59] <bent> i have a migraine
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2555. # [20:00] <robcee> migraing
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2557. # [20:00] <mbrubeck> meringug
2558. # [20:00] <lurking_work> margarita
2559. # [20:00] <ted> yes, that one
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2561. # [20:01] <wg9s> Or Rosalita won't you come out tonight!
2562. # [20:01] <khuey> I should get a few of those
2563. # [20:01] * Waldo wants a margarita so much right now
2564. # [20:01] <robcee> I no longer want a lemon meringue pie.
2565. # [20:02] * Waldo wants all of these
2566. # [20:02] <wg9s> (It's a Springsteen thing)
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2569. # [20:02] * wg9s is just old and the same age as Bruce.
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2571. # [20:02] <robcee> we did pretty good here. Went from mergine to margarita in about 6 moves.
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2573. # [20:03] <sheppy> bz++ (for the reply on that bug, thanks)
2574. # [20:03] <@bz> sheppy: no problem
2575. # [20:03] <@bz> sheppy: I can see how trying to divine that information from the bug would have been .... hard
2576. # [20:03] <sheppy> bz: yeah, I stared at it for a while before giving up and asking :)
2577. # [20:04] <wg9s> robcee: is that the six degrees of Kevin Bacon thing?
2578. # [20:04] <sheppy> I'll be working on writing that up either this afternoon or Monday.
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2581. # [20:04] <bent> bz, ping
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2586. # [20:06] <@bz> bent: ack
2587. # [20:06] <@bz> sheppy: feel free to ask before doing lots of staring, btw
2588. # [20:07] <bent> hey, this thing about worker heap size...
2589. # [20:07] <@bz> sheppy: the worst-case scenario is that I'll ask you to stare.... ;)
2590. # [20:07] <bent> you said that the browser one is basically unlimited
2591. # [20:07] <bent> how does that work?
2592. # [20:07] <sheppy> bz: I know you guys are all busy too so I try to strike a balance. :)
2593. # [20:07] <bent> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSRuntime.cpp#2189
2594. # [20:07] <@bz> bent: for all intents and purposes
2595. # [20:07] <bent> is where i got that size from
2596. # [20:07] <@bz> bent: lemme look it up
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2599. # [20:07] <bent> is there some sort of dynamic size hook i'm not seeing?
2600. # [20:07] <@bz> bent: checking
2601. # [20:08] <@bz> bent: the apis here have moved around
2602. # [20:08] <@bz> bent: so the arg to newruntime is passed to js_InitGC
2603. # [20:09] <wg9s> We have 3 builds on central with zero results what part of land on inbound first do prople not seem to get exactly?
2604. # [20:09] <@bz> bent: which sets rt->gcMaxBytes
2605. # [20:09] <@bz> bent: which can then be changed using JS_SetGCParameter
2606. # [20:09] <@bz> bent: JS_SetGCParameter(mJSRuntime, JSGC_MAX_BYTES, 0xffffffff);
2607. # [20:09] <@bz> bent: in XPCJSRuntime.cpp
2608. # [20:09] <bent> uh
2609. # [20:09] <bent> woah
2610. # [20:09] <bent> that really is unlimited
2611. # [20:10] <bent> so wait
2612. # [20:10] <@bz> bent: and fwiw, for the other place where we do this...
2613. # [20:10] <@bz> 3623 SetMemoryMaxPrefChangedCallback(const char* aPrefName, void* aClosure)
2614. # [20:10] <@bz> 3624 {
2615. # [20:10] <@bz> 3625 PRInt32 pref = Preferences::GetInt(aPrefName, -1);
2616. # [20:10] <@bz> 3626 // handle overflow and negative pref values
2617. # [20:10] <@bz> 3627 PRUint32 max = (pref <= 0 || pref >= 0x1000) ? -1 : (PRUint32)pref * 1024 * 1024;
2618. # [20:10] <@bz> 3628 JS_SetGCParameter(nsJSRuntime::sRuntime, JSGC_MAX_BYTES, max);
2619. # [20:10] <@bz> in nsJSEnvironment
2620. # [20:10] <@bz> (also unlimited unless you munge the prefs)
2621. # [20:10] <bent> basically we just don't follow that first thing at all
2622. # [20:10] <bent> ok
2623. # [20:10] <@bz> well
2624. # [20:10] <@bz> in the browser we don't
2625. # [20:10] <@bz> yeah
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2627. # [20:10] <bent> bz, so how should we do this for workers?
2628. # [20:11] <@bz> well, that's a fun question
2629. # [20:11] <bent> think they should be unlimited too?
2630. # [20:11] <@bz> sub-questions:
2631. # [20:11] <@bz> 1) Should there be a limit?
2632. # [20:11] <@bz> 2) If so, what should it be?
2633. # [20:11] <@bz> I don't know. :(
2634. # [20:11] <bent> i'll remove the limit
2635. # [20:11] <@bz> ok
2636. # [20:11] <@bz> I think Chrome may have limits
2637. # [20:11] <@bz> if so, we could maybe safely match those
2638. # [20:11] <@bz> maybe
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2640. # [20:12] <@bz> nothing says they use the same amount of heap we do for the same script!
2641. # [20:12] <bent> yeah
2642. # [20:12] <khuey> if we do have a limit we need to notify onerror when it's hit
2643. # [20:12] <bent> apples and oranges
2644. # [20:12] <@bz> khuey: yeah, we need a bug on that too
2645. # [20:12] <bent> khuey, yeah, two bugs here
2646. # [20:12] <khuey> indeed
2647. # [20:12] <bent> i suspect the problem is that
2648. # [20:12] <@bz> khuey: though running an onerror handler when you can't allocate any memory from the gc...
2649. # [20:12] <@bz> khuey: might not work very well
2650. # [20:12] <bent> an uncatchable exception is the way we kill workers
2651. # [20:12] <khuey> bz: the onerror handler runs on a different runtime, no?
2652. # [20:12] <@bz> khuey: does it?
2653. # [20:12] <bent> and that tries to be silent
2654. # [20:13] <bent> so OOM is doing the same thing
2655. # [20:13] <@bz> khuey: if so, it could work
2656. # [20:13] <bent> is there a special OOM hook?
2657. # [20:13] <khuey> bz: well workers and xpconnect don't use the same runtime anymore
2658. # [20:13] <khuey> afaik
2659. # [20:13] <khuey> bz: bent knows for sure of course ;-)
2660. # [20:13] <bent> every thread has its own
2661. # [20:13] <khuey> right so being OOM on the worker runtime doesn't mean we can't do an onerror back in xpc-land
2662. # [20:14] <bent> correct
2663. # [20:14] <bent> the problem is what i was describing above
2664. # [20:14] <khuey> unless we're physically OOM at which point it doesn't matter
2665. # [20:14] <bent> OOM and "kill this worker" look identical at the moment
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2667. # [20:14] <bent> so i need to figure out how OOM can be distinguished
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2670. # [20:17] <@bz> I just wasn't sure where the onerror ran
2671. # [20:17] <@bz> in the worker, or on the page
2672. # [20:17] <khuey> ah, yes
2673. # [20:17] <khuey> that's an important detail
2674. # [20:18] <@bz> erm
2675. # [20:18] <@bz> did bugzilla just die?
2676. # [20:18] <robcee> I guess I lied. There was a little tiny bit of C++ in our merge.
2677. # [20:18] <robcee> bug 676187 for the curious
2678. # [20:18] <mwu> snorp: no r= in your push
2679. # [20:18] <snorp> mwu: god dammit.
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2682. # [20:19] <khuey> robcee: we're past that being a problem
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2684. # [20:19] <snorp> knew I would forget something
2685. # [20:19] <mwu> I thought we had hooks to stop this
2686. # [20:19] <robcee> khuey: I am pleased, but felt horrible lying to the channel like that.
2687. # [20:19] <robcee> I just needed to get it off my chest!
2688. # [20:19] <Waldo> mwu: the hook only handles bug numbers, right now; r= was considered a separate issue
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2690. # [20:20] <mwu> oh I see
2691. # [20:20] <Waldo> which, meh, I can kind of buy
2692. # [20:20] <mwu> well, it is..
2693. # [20:20] <mwu> but I still want it
2694. # [20:20] <Waldo> I'd love it too, sure
2695. # [20:21] <Waldo> someone else was doing the work, I wasn't going to stop-energy it :-)
2696. # [20:21] <@bz> hmm... it's back
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2700. # [20:22] <robcee> bz: it's pretty slow over here
2701. # [20:22] <robcee> trying to mark these bugs fixed and it's taking awhile
2702. # [20:23] <@bz> in my case it just gave me an error page for a bit
2703. # [20:23] <@bz> not just slowness
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2710. # [20:26] <jlebar> Bas, ping?
2711. # [20:26] <Bas> jlebar: pong
2712. # [20:26] <jlebar> Bas, In B2G, we used to define ANDROID_NDK, but now we define only ANDROID.
2713. # [20:26] <jlebar> Bas, This is breaking skia.
2714. # [20:27] <Bas> jlebar: You want mattwoodrow for that.
2715. # [20:27] <jlebar> Okay; thanks. ;)
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2717. # [20:27] <Bas> I don't know anything about the Skia build I'm afraid :)
2718. # [20:27] <jlebar> I see; I think I misremembered the hg log.
2719. # [20:27] <robcee> I thought we pulled Skia
2720. # [20:28] <lurking_work> thought so too
2721. # [20:28] <khuey> from windows
2722. # [20:28] * bent is now known as bent|nap
2723. # [20:28] <robcee> oh
2724. # [20:29] <up_up_and|away> ?
2725. # [20:29] <up_up_and|away> say cheese!
2726. # [20:30] <khuey> where's cheese?
2727. # [20:30] <khuey> speaking of which
2728. # [20:30] <khuey> mounir: I expect you to introduce me to good cheese when I'm in paris
2729. # [20:30] <jhammink> pcwalton: ping
2730. # [20:30] <mounir> khuey: count on me
2731. # [20:30] <pcwalton> jhammink: pong
2732. # [20:30] <khuey> mounir: excellent!
2733. # [20:31] <mounir> khuey: I hope you want good wine with your cheese
2734. # [20:31] <jhammink> mounir: I want this cheese too! When I next come to Paris...
2735. # [20:31] <khuey> mounir: sounds good to me!
2736. # [20:31] <lurking_work> Paris ! Graduation Present ?
2737. # [20:31] <jhammink> pcwalton: I have a few questions about testing a feature known as the Layout Transform API
2738. # [20:31] <jhammink> are you actually in MV?
2739. # [20:31] <pcwalton> jhammink: yeah, I am
2740. # [20:32] <khuey> lurking_work: some of us are getting together in paris for a dom bindings work week
2741. # [20:32] <jhammink> ok, you're on 2nd floor, near bmoss?
2742. # [20:32] <lurking_work> khuey: oh, nice...
2743. # [20:32] <pcwalton> jhammink: yup
2744. # [20:32] <khuey> lurking_work: and I'm going to take some time off while I'm over there
2745. # [20:32] <mwu> snorp: red on m-i
2746. # [20:32] <jhammink> ok
2747. # [20:32] * khuey is looking forward to it
2748. # [20:33] <snorp> mwu: what
2749. # [20:33] <snorp> uh wtf
2750. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> bz, what's wrong with window.something? Slow?
2751. # [20:34] <snorp> looks like m-i on the build machine only has part of my commits?
2752. # [20:34] <snorp> khuey: you are looking at my failure or something else
2753. # [20:34] <snorp> oh forward to it
2754. # [20:34] <snorp> sigh
2755. # [20:34] <khuey> snorp: heh
2756. # [20:35] <@bz> Ms2ger: compared to just something, yes
2757. # [20:35] <khuey> snorp: did you forget to hg add or something?
2758. # [20:35] <@bz> Ms2ger: in some cases pathologically so
2759. # [20:35] <snorp> oh I see this is the xul build
2760. # [20:35] <snorp> shit
2761. # [20:35] <@bz> Ms2ger: lemme get you an example
2762. # [20:36] <mwu> snorp: didn't test xul builds?
2763. # [20:36] <snorp> mwu: negative.
2764. # [20:36] <mbrubeck> snorp: I made the reverse mistake with the last XUL Fennec patch I landed.
2765. # [20:36] <snorp> couple ifdefs should fix it up
2766. # [20:36] <snorp> mbrubeck: heh
2767. # [20:36] <khuey> ted: ping?
2768. # [20:36] * timA is now known as timA|lunch
2769. # [20:37] <ted> khuey: pong
2770. # [20:37] <khuey> ted: can you confirm https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711549#c2 ?
2771. # [20:38] <ted> i'm...not sure
2772. # [20:38] <Waldo> someone should back out jwillcox, looks like he's burning m-i
2773. # [20:38] <khuey> yeah me neither
2774. # [20:38] <@bz> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408413
2775. # [20:38] <@bz> Ms2ger: try running that
2776. # [20:38] <khuey> Waldo: meet snorp
2777. # [20:38] <mwu> Waldo: that's snorp
2778. # [20:38] <Waldo> hi snorp!
2779. # [20:38] <snorp> hi :0
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2781. # [20:39] <Waldo> and I see scrollback, so I guess my pointing things out is done :-)
2782. # [20:39] <snorp> pushed a fix to try
2783. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> bz, where does self live? domclassinfo?
2784. # [20:39] <gavin> snorp: push it to inbound?
2785. # [20:39] <mwu> snorp: might want to back out on m-i then
2786. # [20:39] <gavin> no use waiting on try
2787. # [20:39] <gavin> or yeah, back out on inbound if you're really not confident
2788. # [20:39] <BenWa> gps: ping
2789. # [20:40] <snorp> :/
2790. # [20:40] <gps> BenWa: pong
2791. # [20:40] <snorp> how do I do that?
2792. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> Always send to try first
2793. # [20:40] <snorp> hg backout <changesets>?
2794. # [20:40] <gavin> yes
2795. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> Yes
2796. # [20:40] <snorp> Ms2ger: yeah I did, but not for xul :(
2797. # [20:40] <BenWa> gps: Would it be much trouble trying os.sep as a path seperator for bug 711549?
2798. # [20:41] <Waldo> hg backout, then also probably hg merge, hg commit, hg push
2799. # [20:41] <mwu> there's also a backout script, but there's only two changesets here so you don't really need it
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2802. # [20:41] <gps> BenWa: send me a patch and I can test it
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2804. # [20:42] <gps> oh, I see the new comment
2805. # [20:42] <BenWa> gps attaching a patch
2806. # [20:43] <gps> no need
2807. # [20:43] <gps> so, in the Makefiles, we should use UNIX style paths
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2809. # [20:43] <gps> and, Python should grok the forward slashes when writing to files
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2812. # [20:44] * sheppy is now known as sheppy-afk
2813. # [20:44] <gps> although, you have to worry about whether you have the /c foo that MINGW uses
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2815. # [20:44] <BenWa> Umm
2816. # [20:45] <gps> BenWa: care to join #pymake?
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2821. # [20:46] <gkw> catlee: ping
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2823. # [20:47] <catlee> gkw: pong
2824. # [20:49] <snorp> ugh, wtf
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2826. # [20:49] <snorp> why does push say it wants to create a new head?
2827. # [20:50] <hub> snorp: likely because there are commits in the remote that you don't have locally.
2828. # [20:50] <jlebar> snorp, hg pull --rebase
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2831. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> jlebar, I'm blaming you if --rebase's bugs strike again
2832. # [20:51] <jlebar> Ms2ger, I have never, ever seen these bugs that everyone talks about
2833. # [20:51] <hub> jlebar: does not work here, btw
2834. # [20:51] <Waldo> snorp: because your backout wasn't of tip, so you either need to merge your backout with tip, or you need to rebase it to tip
2835. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> jlebar, I have
2836. # [20:51] <jlebar> or that.
2837. # [20:51] <jlebar> Ms2ger, But is your perception my reality?
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2839. # [20:52] <Waldo> unfortunately the command to rebase to tip is kind of tricky to construct
2840. # [20:52] <snorp> I dunno, looks correct to me?
2841. # [20:52] <snorp> really?
2842. # [20:52] <Waldo> if you know what you're doing, possibly not so much
2843. # [20:52] <snorp> the backout commit is on top here
2844. # [20:52] <snorp> right above mfinkle's patch
2845. # [20:52] <jlebar> snorp, hg glog
2846. # [20:52] <gavin> did you pull in the most recent changes from m-c?
2847. # [20:52] <snorp> gavin: m-i
2848. # [20:52] <gavin> did you pull in the most recent changes from m-i?
2849. # [20:52] <snorp> yes
2850. # [20:52] <jlebar> snorp, just because it's on top doesn't mean it's *based* on that rev.
2851. # [20:52] <jlebar> snorp, gotta look at the glog.
2852. # [20:52] <snorp> jlebar: seriously? wtf.
2853. # [20:53] <Waldo> but me, I've never figured out how to construct it foolproof-ly, because the terminology for all the changes rebase takes as inputs are confusing
2854. # [20:53] <jlebar> snorp, welcome to distributed vcs.
2855. # [20:53] <snorp> (git does this correctly)
2856. # [20:53] <gavin> Waldo: I just use rebase -s <thing rebased> -d <thing to rebase on top of>
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2858. # [20:53] <jlebar> snorp, Git does it differently. I like that hg shows me the whole tree when I do log.
2859. # [20:53] <snorp> ok glog shows my backout on top
2860. # [20:53] <snorp> tag: tip
2861. # [20:53] <Waldo> log -G (probably what glog aliases to) is awesome
2862. # [20:54] <gavin> there can be multiple tips
2863. # [20:54] <jlebar> snorp, can you pastebin the first few lines of your glog?
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2865. # [20:54] <snorp> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408446
2866. # [20:54] <gavin> "hg heads default", copy the changeset ID that's not-yours, then hg rebase -s <yours> -d <copied changeset>
2867. # [20:55] <gavin> ah
2868. # [20:55] <jlebar> snorp, |hg outgoing|
2869. # [20:55] <snorp> jlebar: outgoing has a ton of stuff
2870. # [20:55] <jlebar> snorp, but you only mean to push one thing?
2871. # [20:55] <snorp> all of the stuff in m-i that is not in m-c I guess
2872. # [20:55] <snorp> well this is a m-c tree
2873. # [20:55] <snorp> I guess I'm not supposed to do that
2874. # [20:55] <jlebar> snorp, but you're pushing to m-i?
2875. # [20:55] <gavin> well you can, but you need to use push -r then
2876. # [20:55] <snorp> jlebar: after pulling from m-i, yeah
2877. # [20:56] <jlebar> Yeah, this is not git.
2878. # [20:56] <jlebar> fortunately or unfortunately.
2879. # [20:56] <snorp> oh, just -r <my backout>
2880. # [20:56] <snorp> that's fair enough
2881. # [20:56] <snorp> pushed
2882. # [20:56] <jlebar> snorp, http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html for trimming the m-c csets off your m-i tree.
2883. # [20:56] <jlebar> (or vice versa)
2884. # [20:57] <snorp> cool, I knew the strip trick already
2885. # [20:58] <Cwiiis> roc, ping?
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2892. # [21:02] <lurking_work> doesn't look like roc is around
2893. # [21:03] <jimm> 9am on a saturday for him
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2896. # [21:03] <@bz> It's nine, o'clock on a Saturday...
2897. # [21:04] <@bz> er, without the comma
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2901. # [21:06] <@bz> hmm
2902. # [21:07] <@bz> so if we're trying to beat down relocations...
2903. # [21:07] <@bz> I assume that static structs in a function that you then return pointers to count?
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2909. # [21:11] * gavin tries loading the clobberer
2910. # [21:11] * gavin waits...
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2913. # [21:13] <@bz> wait for it....
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2917. # [21:14] <gavin> there we go
2918. # [21:14] <gavin> now to submit the clobberer form...
2919. # [21:14] * gavin waits
2920. # [21:14] <froydnj> bz: I fail to parse that comment about static structs
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2923. # [21:15] <@bz> froydnj: if you're assuming that the array length will fit in a uint16_t, you should just add a PR_STATIC_ASSERT to that effect
2924. # [21:15] <@bz> froydnj: so that if that ever changes (unlikely as that seems at present) we will fail to build instead of bulding but running wrong
2925. # [21:15] <@bz> froydnj: imo
2926. # [21:16] <froydnj> bz: oh, yeah, the PR_STATIC_ASSERT is a good idea
2927. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> imo as wall :)
2928. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> With an e, perhaps
2929. # [21:16] <froydnj> bz: I was talking about your comment earlier in IRC
2930. # [21:16] <@bz> oh
2931. # [21:16] <@bz> sorry
2932. # [21:16] <@bz> say I have a function like this
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2934. # [21:16] <@bz> const Foo* LookupSomething() {
2935. # [21:16] <@bz> static Foo = { ... };
2936. # [21:17] <@bz> er...
2937. # [21:17] <@bz> static Foo foo = { ... };
2938. # [21:17] <@bz> return &foo;
2939. # [21:17] <@bz> }
2940. # [21:17] <@bz> does that involve relocations?
2941. # [21:17] * juanb is now known as juanb|brb
2942. # [21:17] <froydnj> depends what's in Foo
2943. # [21:17] <froydnj> pointers? yes, relocations
2944. # [21:18] <josh> Who develops our bugzilla API? Gerv?
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2948. # [21:18] <@bz> froydnj: what's in Foo varies
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2950. # [21:18] <@bz> froydnj: but no relocation needed for the &foo bit itself?
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2952. # [21:19] <froydnj> no, no relocations required there
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2954. # [21:19] <@bz> (the common case is for Foo to have an nsIAtom** then an integer, then a function pointer
2955. # [21:20] <froydnj> ah, yes, nsIAtom*, a constant source of relocations
2956. # [21:20] <@bz> heh
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2959. # [21:20] <@bz> This is nsIAtom**
2960. # [21:21] <@bz> but yeah, computing the thing it points to might involve a relocation
2961. # [21:21] <@bz> alright, thanks
2962. # [21:21] <froydnj> yeah, something like nsIAtom *foo
2963. # [21:21] <froydnj> bar = { ... &foo }
2964. # [21:21] <mbrubeck> hmm, no android builds on Fx-Team?
2965. # [21:21] <@bz> (changing the contents of this struct would be hard, but moving the structs themselves around to be together might have been possible)
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2967. # [21:22] <@bz> This is more like....
2968. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> Yes, burning, I'm backing out
2969. # [21:22] <@bz> &nsGkAtoms::something
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2971. # [21:22] * gps wishes bugzilla had a form where you could type the path of a file and it would suggest bug components
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2974. # [21:23] <@dbaron> so bugzilla stopped sending attachments for review in the email?
2975. # [21:23] <froydnj> the atom registration code could use some relocation-friendly love
2976. # [21:23] <@dbaron> or is that only enabled for some products?
2977. # [21:24] <mbrubeck> robcee: reftest failures on Android, possibly related to bug 376997?
2978. # [21:24] <Waldo> and why'd the URL at top of bugmail revert from the #cN form, while we're asking bugzilla questions?
2979. # [21:24] <@bz> jdm: ping
2980. # [21:24] <Waldo> seemed like the right way to solve that problem to me
2981. # [21:24] * rail is now known as rail_away
2982. # [21:25] <mbrubeck> jaws: Do you know if your tryserver run from bug 376997 was green on Android? (It won't load in TBPL, probably too old now.)
2983. # [21:25] <sfink> gps: I Have An Extension For That. install https://bitbucket.org/sfink/mqext/ then run hg components -f <filename>
2984. # [21:25] <philor> dbaron: was rumored to only be enabled for some sizes, though I never heard just how small
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2987. # [21:26] <gps> sfink: zomg!!
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2989. # [21:26] <jaws> mbrubeck: everything seemed green on tryserver, i'm not sure why it doesn't load now
2990. # [21:26] <mbrubeck> jaws: Did you include Android reftests?
2991. # [21:26] * Waldo gets around to adding a tree-relinking cron script to his setup
2992. # [21:26] <mbrubeck> I guess I can look in HG for the try revision and see...
2993. # [21:27] <jaws> mbrubeck: try: -b do -p linux,macosx64,win32,android -u all -t none
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2995. # [21:27] <mbrubeck> ah, good
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2997. # [21:27] <ted> it's possible some of these bugzilla gripes are due to them switching back to SJC while PHX is PHXed
2998. # [21:27] <jaws> mbrubeck: are there issues with that patch on android?
2999. # [21:27] <robcee> good use of the verb PHXed, ted
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3001. # [21:28] <mbrubeck> jaws: See the reftest failures on m-c: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=ac22a1aae263
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3003. # [21:28] <mbrubeck> jaws: Not sure if it's related, just guessing.
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3005. # [21:28] <mbrubeck> Fennec doesn't seem to be using the "neutral background"
3006. # [21:28] <sfink> gps: ...and of course, verifying the syntax led me to discover that my extension is busted if there happens to be a recent-ish inaccessible security bug that touches the file...
3007. # [21:29] <gps> :/
3008. # [21:29] <jaws> mbrubeck: it seems related, although i'm not sure how the tests are run differently when on android
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3010. # [21:29] <mbrubeck> jaws: Looks like TopLevelImageDocument.css is not included in the Fennec manifest
3011. # [21:29] <mbrubeck> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=TopLevelImageDocument
3012. # [21:30] <jaws> wow great catch!
3013. # [21:30] <mbrubeck> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/xul/installer/package-manifest.in and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/installer/package-manifest.in
3014. # [21:30] <jaws> mbrubeck: where is the Fennec manifest? I can add it to it
3015. # [21:30] <jaws> oh nvm, you just posted it :)
3016. # [21:31] <Waldo> dbaron: I *just* got sent bugmail for bug 711557 with a patch attached; given that the previous thing that didn't get an attachment was also a JS bug, I think the SJC guess is likely
3017. # [21:31] <jaws> mbrubeck: did you want to take it or should i?
3018. # [21:31] <jaws> thank you again for narrowing it down
3019. # [21:32] <mbrubeck> jaws: I can try it, since I should be able to test locally...
3020. # [21:32] <jaws> ok thanks a bunch
3021. # [21:32] <@dbaron> Waldo, SJC guess?
3022. # [21:32] <@dbaron> Waldo, did bugzilla switch data centers and back or something?
3023. # [21:32] <jesup> !seen khuey
3024. # [21:33] <firebot> khuey was last seen 46 minutes and 48 seconds ago, changing nick to khuey|away.
3025. # [21:33] <Waldo> dbaron: ted's guess that bmo switched to being hosted from SJC because of PHX being "PHXed"
3026. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> Wow
3027. # [21:33] <Waldo> dbaron: scrollback
3028. # [21:33] <jesup> darn
3029. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> "Incorrect decrement of the reference count of an object that is not owned at this point by the caller"
3030. # [21:33] <ted> "Bugzilla is currently running out of the San Jose datacenter due to load balancer issues in Phoenix. This is older hardware, and slower database connections, so Bugzilla will be a little slow for the time being. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience. We'll switch it back to the usual hardware as soon as we're sure it's stable."
3031. # [21:33] <ted> dbaron: from the header of bugzilla
3032. # [21:33] * lurking_work wonders if waldo meant PHuX'd
3033. # [21:33] <ted> lurking_work: something like that
3034. # [21:34] <ted> just too worn out to make a decent pun out of it
3035. # [21:34] <Waldo> lurking_work: I was quoting :-)
3036. # [21:34] <lurking_work> k
3037. # [21:34] <roc> Cwiiis: hi
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3043. # [21:36] <jesup> roc: hi! Any ETA on when you'll have a semi-usable patch for MediaStreams (non-processed ones)? I'm hitting a point in the PeerConnection impl where I need something there, either real or a stub. getUserMedia can wait a little so long as there's some way to feed data into a media stream
3044. # [21:37] <roc> yeah I see your email
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3046. # [21:37] <philor> given how little of the stuff landing on fx-team is browser/-only, we should probably make that just another runs-everything tree
3047. # [21:37] <jesup> I can work off a patch, or if we could commit it to Alder
3048. # [21:37] <jesup> roc: k, thanks
3049. # [21:37] <roc> what functionality do you need
3050. # [21:37] <roc> ?
3051. # [21:37] <Waldo> jlebar: so, your post about hg relink: what am I doing wrong here? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408528 (I do not have 6GB of patches in that tree)
3052. # [21:38] <Waldo> jlebar: er,never mind!
3053. # [21:38] <Julian> help: on m-c, compiling with VS2010, I get unresolved symbols; the first being "nestegg_destroy"
3054. # [21:38] <jlebar> Waldo, Happy to help. :)
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3056. # [21:38] <Julian> known issue?
3057. # [21:38] <jesup> Mostly a way to feed even dummy data into the encoders
3058. # [21:38] <philor> mmm, especially if fx-team is pgo-never, which we certainly don't want to be doing
3059. # [21:39] <@bz> Ms2ger: for CoreFoundation stuff, right?
3060. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> Yeah
3061. # [21:39] <jesup> And some way to instantiate it (doesn't have to be getUserMedia)
3062. # [21:39] <Waldo> jlebar: forgot about objdirs (!)
3063. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> Would be more useful if it knew about our refcounting
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3065. # [21:40] * rail is now known as rail_away
3066. # [21:40] <jesup> It can be very simple
3067. # [21:41] * rail_away is now known as rail
3068. # [21:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
3069. # [21:41] <@bz> So does anyone know when peterv will be back?
3070. # [21:41] <@bz> bholley: ping
3071. # [21:42] <bholley> bz: pong
3072. # [21:42] <@bz> bholley: how do you feel about me landing the precreateprototype thing on just your review?
3073. # [21:42] <Julian> sounds like disabling WebM doesn't work anymore?
3074. # [21:42] <jesup> roc: I have some dummy idl files gened up from the W3 prototype spec
3075. # [21:43] <bholley> bz: it's up to you, really. The reason it took so long for me to review it is that I had to go and read all of the relevant code for the first time
3076. # [21:43] <@bz> bholley: just like I read it all for the first tiem before writing the patch... ;)
3077. # [21:43] * jgilbert_ is now known as jgilbert_lunch
3078. # [21:43] <@bz> bholley: I'd like to get this in for Fx11, but no idea when peterv will be back....
3079. # [21:43] <@bz> bholley: I'm tempted to Just Do It
3080. # [21:43] <bholley> !seen peterv
3081. # [21:43] <firebot> peterv was last seen 4 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 6 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying 'look at the WebIDL spec' in #content.
3082. # [21:43] <@bz> er, time
3083. # [21:44] <@bz> bholley: he was maybe supposed to be back today, but I see no evidence of that
3084. # [21:44] <bholley> bz: yeah...
3085. # [21:44] * Cwiiis is now known as CwiiisAway
3086. # [21:44] <@bz> ok
3087. # [21:44] * @bz has to run
3088. # [21:44] <bholley> bz: who else knows about this code?
3089. # [21:44] <Julian> help: on m-c, compiling with VS2010, I get unresolved symbols; the first being "nestegg_destroy"
3090. # [21:44] <@bz> but sounds like you're at least not violently opposed
3091. # [21:44] <@bz> hmm
3092. # [21:44] <@bz> _maybe_ jst
3093. # [21:44] <bholley> bz: jst maybe?
3094. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Julian, hmm, might be that's khuey|away's fault
3095. # [21:44] <bholley> bz: yeah
3096. # [21:44] <@bz> I'll try him
3097. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Or was that glandium?
3098. # [21:44] * bz is now known as bz_away
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3100. # [21:45] <Julian> msg2ger: ack, thanks. So somebody is investigating?
3101. # [21:45] <Julian> ms2ger: ack, thanks. So somebody is investigating?
3102. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> I don't know
3103. # [21:45] <bholley> bz_away: you could also land it, and then get him to review it as soon as he's back, and back it out or patch it on aurora if it's terribly wrong
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3105. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> It just sounds like something that could have happened when we split out media stuff from libxul
3106. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> Can you file a bug?
3107. # [21:46] <Julian> yes; against what component?
3108. # [21:46] <roc> jesup: I'll try to put something together for that
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3110. # [21:47] <Waldo> bz_away: btw, bug 684601 comment 27
3111. # [21:48] * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|away
3112. # [21:48] <Ms2ger> Julian, Video/Audio, and cc :khuey and glandium, please
3113. # [21:48] <Julian> ok
3114. # [21:48] * Waldo hopes that vc10 failure is not his fault
3115. # [21:48] <Waldo> not entirely implausible :-\
3116. # [21:48] * Waldo kicks off a build to see
3117. # [21:48] <Waldo> vc10 build, that is
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3121. # [21:50] <mbrubeck> jaws: argh, my build kicked off a reconfig... must have had an out-of-date objdir
3122. # [21:50] <mbrubeck> let me see if I have a different tree where I can test this
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3126. # [21:54] <mbrubeck> mfinkle: ping
3127. # [21:54] <mfinkle> mbrubeck, pong
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3129. # [21:55] <mbrubeck> mfinkle: bustage fix for m-c in bug 376997
3130. # [21:56] <mbrubeck> well, if my Bugzilla form ever finishes submitting
3131. # [21:56] <mbrubeck> still working on testing it
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3133. # [21:56] <mfinkle> mbrubeck, right bug # ?
3134. # [21:56] * Julian opens https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711584
3135. # [21:56] <mbrubeck> yeah, bug 376997
3136. # [21:57] <mbrubeck> should be there now
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3138. # [21:57] <wg9s> Waldo: I home my comments were not taken as personla. Just thinking perhaps things of this type need to land earier in the cycle or wait till next cycle.
3139. # [21:57] <mfinkle> mbrubeck, only for XUL ?
3140. # [21:57] <Waldo> wg9s: no worries, I get where you were coming from
3141. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> Julian, thanks
3142. # [21:57] <mbrubeck> mfinkle: Oops, it should be for both
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3144. # [21:58] <ted> anyone have an aurora/beta tree and want to land a patch for me?
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3147. # [21:58] <Julian> Ms2ger: now I need to recall why I turned off WebM in the first place; there's probably a good reason :-)
3148. # [21:58] <wg9s> Thinking perhaps rules about what type of things cna land in last 2 weeks prior to next uplift
3149. # [21:58] <wg9s> esp since we had so many other issues during this cycle resulting in tree closures.
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3153. # [21:59] <ted> what else resulted in tree closures, aside from our flirting with linker disaster?
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3155. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> Some infra stuff?
3156. # [21:59] <mbrubeck> there've been a few network outages this month
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3158. # [22:00] <wg9s> plus the shoe win PGO memeory limit thing
3159. # [22:00] <wg9s> memory
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3161. # [22:01] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, yt?
3162. # [22:02] <wg9s> But my idea is that things that are thought require closing inbound and central should not be landing so clse to the uplift so we need a rule about this.
3163. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> I believe we've heard you
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3165. # [22:02] <wg9s> Just my opnion, I could be worng!
3166. # [22:03] <mbrubeck> ted: I can push to Aurora in a while
3167. # [22:03] <ted> mbrubeck: it's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710712
3168. # [22:03] <mbrubeck> ted: Okay
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3170. # [22:03] <Ms2ger> OH: "I'm not as enthusiastic now as I was yesterday."
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3174. # [22:04] <mbrubeck> mfinkle, jaws: This is gonna take a while to test (waiting on builds). I can push it untested, or we can back out and re-land once the Android fix is tested.
3175. # [22:05] <mbrubeck> also, I'm not set up to run Android reftests locally, so maybe it would be good to back out and push to try and then reland.
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3180. # [22:08] <mbrubeck> robcee, jaws: Want me to try backing out 376997 on m-c?
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3184. # [22:13] <robcee> mbrubeck: sure thing
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3186. # [22:13] <robcee> sounds like you've been all around the problem
3187. # [22:13] <mbrubeck> okay...
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3189. # [22:13] <robcee> should be able to just hg backout -r it
3190. # [22:14] <robcee> and a merge
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3199. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cbb0233c7ba8 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 97b8cff2764f (bug 376997) for Android reftest failures
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3207. # [22:24] <bsmedberg> Ms2ger: on PTO today (can you tell?)
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3211. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, I got a warning about a semicolon too many, r? for http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408565 ?
3212. # [22:26] <bsmedberg> rs+
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3215. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> Thanks
3216. # [22:27] <wg9s> Ms2ger: So, I guess that is only half as bad as a colon too many? ;-)
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3221. # [22:30] <jhammink> mbrubeck: ping
3222. # [22:30] <mbrubeck> jhammink: pong
3223. # [22:30] <jcranmer> wg9s: you have too many intestines?
3224. # [22:31] <jhammink> I was asked to write testcases for indexeddb as it's landing in native fennec
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3226. # [22:31] <wg9s> jcranmer: perhaps you are correct.
3227. # [22:31] <jhammink> I have only one example testpage that works: people.mozilla.com/~jhammink/webapi_test_pages/IndexeddbAPIdemo.html
3228. # [22:32] <jhammink> and have the usual series of db write/delete cases, but was wondering if there's anything special to or specific to indexxeddb as it lands in native fennec
3229. # [22:33] <gps> sfink: I'm really digging mqext!
3230. # [22:33] <mbrubeck> jhammink: No, it should work the same as on other platforms, except the default quota levels might be different (i.e., it might prompt you for access to more space sooner).
3231. # [22:33] <mbrubeck> any other difference is a bug
3232. # [22:34] <mbrubeck> oh, and of course it will likely be slower, which could affect scripts that assume things happen quickly.
3233. # [22:34] <sfink> gps: glad you like my kitchen sink
3234. # [22:34] <jhammink> ok, good to know
3235. # [22:34] <wg9s> jcranmer: but then I was NOT the one who made the original too many colons comment.
3236. # [22:35] <sfink> gps: (I picked out the faucet myself!)
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3241. # [22:39] <jhammink> mbrubeck: I understood that the method for opening db might be different also
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3244. # [22:39] <jhammink> different from how it's done presently on desktop
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3246. # [22:40] <mbrubeck> jhammink: Not as far as I know, but maybe sicking or khuey|away would know?
3247. # [22:40] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
3248. # [22:40] <mbrubeck> jhammink: There were some API changes in recent versions of Firefox, but they are all cross-platform as far as I know -- e.g. Firefox 11 on Android should support the exact same API as Firefox 11 on desktop.
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3250. # [22:41] <jhammink> ok, this is helpful
3251. # [22:41] <cl> mconnor: ping
3252. # [22:42] <@dbaron> anybody else having trouble loading tpbl?
3253. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> jhammink: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_10_for_developers#IndexedDB are the API changes I was thinking of
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3255. # [22:42] <jhammink> even better
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3257. # [22:42] <wg9s> dbaron: I am not
3258. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> dbaron: WFM
3259. # [22:42] <wg9s> so must be a your location to tbpl type issue?
3260. # [22:43] * jgriffin-afk is now known as jgriffin
3261. # [22:43] <@dbaron> probably the fact that I had build.mozilla.org in my /etc/hosts to work around other problems
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3263. # [22:43] <@dbaron> removing that seems to have fixed it
3264. # [22:43] <cl> anyone know who's currently working on cookies code?
3265. # [22:44] <wg9s> ah so you had a sepcific ip for build.mozillaorg which might be currently down.
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3270. # [22:45] <wg9s> yes kind of an issue with working around problems with /etc/hosts which I have bumped into in the past.
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3288. # [22:50] <jhammink> pcwalton: wondering if I could pop by to have a look at that layout transform stuff
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3290. # [22:50] <pcwalton> jhammink: sure
3291. # [22:50] <jhammink> ok, coming down
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3296. # [22:53] <Jesse> jlebar: any particular reason mozVibrate has no tests? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711602
3297. # [22:54] <jlebar> Jesse, there should be tests...
3298. # [22:54] <jlebar> Jesse, looking for the file...
3299. # [22:55] <Jesse> hmm, you're right, there's http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_vibrator.html
3300. # [22:55] <Jesse> but assertions aren't fatal in mochitests
3301. # [22:55] <mconnor|m> cl: Pong?
3302. # [22:55] <Jesse> and i don't know how to get from a mochitest file to the log, without opening a zillion (5 or 6) tinderbox logs
3303. # [22:55] <khuey> and?
3304. # [22:55] <cl> mconnor|m: who's working on cookies code these days?
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3306. # [22:56] <gps> cl: I believe mconnor is in flight
3307. # [22:56] <mconnor|m> gps: Nope
3308. # [22:56] <mconnor|m> In taxi
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3310. # [22:56] <gps> scrollback, duh
3311. # [22:56] <mconnor|m> cl: No one really
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3314. # [22:56] <jlebar> Jesse, looks like a problem with ClearOnShutdown.
3315. # [22:56] <cl> haha
3316. # [22:56] <cl> lovely
3317. # [22:56] <Jesse> jlebar: i was confused because https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694862 didn't add the test, never mind
3318. # [22:57] <Jesse> jlebar: yeah
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3320. # [22:58] <khuey> cl: it can be yours
3321. # [22:58] <khuey> for the incredibly low price
3322. # [22:58] <khuey> of free
3323. # [22:58] <cl> no thank you. :-p
3324. # [22:58] <cl> i don't even have a working tree ATM
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3326. # [22:58] <cl> mconnor|m: so who should I CC on a cookies code bug to get someone to actually look at it? :-p
3327. # [22:59] <mconnor|m> cl: Ummmm
3328. # [22:59] <Ms2ger> biesi?
3329. # [22:59] <mconnor|m> Me/dwitte/sdwilsh
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3331. # [22:59] <mconnor|m> But odds are slim
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3337. # [23:01] <jaws> mbrubeck: you can back it out on m-c until your test finishes
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3341. # [23:02] <cl> mconnor|m: thanks, i'll do that
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3344. # [23:03] <philor> mmm, pending
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3355. # [23:06] <mbrubeck> jaws: already done
3356. # [23:07] <jaws> ok cool. yeah i saw that after my IRC message. sorry for the delay
3357. # [23:07] <Mossop> derf: Your desktop is making a loud whining noise again!
3358. # [23:08] <derf> Dammit.
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3360. # [23:10] <philor> ImportError: No module named ssl
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3364. # [23:11] <derf> Mossop: I mean, I see it kicked off some cron jobs a minute or two before you said that, but I don't see anything really running on it now, and as far as SMART can tell there's nothing wrong with the drives.
3365. # [23:11] <philor> that'd be Python, and I'd want to point coop|buildduty at recently- resurrected slaves, right?
3366. # [23:11] <catlee> philor: where?
3367. # [23:11] <catlee> if that's recently resurrected, yes
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3370. # [23:11] <philor> catlee: last two Windows debug builds on inbound, one is 44 so I know it's fresh
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3373. # [23:11] <philor> mw32-ix-slave05 and w32-ix-slave44
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3375. # [23:12] <philor> (where by fresh I mean fresh out of the grave)
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3379. # [23:12] <jgilbert> how do I un'finish' things from my local hg?
3380. # [23:13] <gavin> hg qimport
3381. # [23:13] <gavin> -r
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3384. # [23:13] <Mossop> derf: It started a while ago, sounds more like a PSU fan to me but could be wrong
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3386. # [23:13] <coop|buildduty> hrmmm, opsi tells me those slaves are up-to-date
3387. # [23:13] <philor> oh, and your little purple Windows opt build, too
3388. # [23:14] <catlee> coop|buildduty: re-install ssl?
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3390. # [23:14] <coop|buildduty> catlee: yeah, i'm marking them all as such now
3391. # [23:14] <catlee> thanks
3392. # [23:14] <derf> Mossop: Okay, there's not a lot I can do about that from here.
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3394. # [23:16] <philor> not quite sure what mw32-ix-slave05 was doing in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=7987276&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
3395. # [23:16] <philor> "hg unbundle? sure, I can do tha ooh, squirrel!"
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3398. # [23:17] <jgilbert> so I have things in my 'hg out' that I don't want, how do I nuke them?
3399. # [23:17] <gavin> hg strip
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3401. # [23:17] <gavin> you want to strip the root revision, typically
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3403. # [23:17] <Ms2ger> hg qimp -r tip
3404. # [23:17] <Ms2ger> If you don't want to lose them entirely
3405. # [23:17] <gavin> (of the branch you want to get rid of)
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3407. # [23:19] <gavin> you can use |hg strip 'roots(outgoing())'| if you want to kill everything in |hg out|
3408. # [23:19] * jmaher is now known as jmaher|afk
3409. # [23:19] <catlee> SQUIRREL!
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3412. # [23:20] <jgilbert> thanks, hg strip on the top killed it :)
3413. # [23:20] <jgilbert> or root outgoing
3414. # [23:20] <jgilbert> terminology ><
3415. # [23:21] <philor> "I stripped, and then I was happy and outgoing" is the technical term
3416. # [23:22] <philor> oh yay, merged bustage
3417. # [23:22] <philor> who owns the fx-team tree, for me to cc?
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3419. # [23:23] <philor> on "either add a hook that rejects non-browser/ touches, or put every platform, every test suite, and every flavor of build on"
3420. # [23:23] <Ms2ger> robcee,
3421. # [23:24] * IRCMonkey21102 is now known as Tobbi
3422. # [23:24] <philor> good, I'll just claim he said it was fine, he'll never remember whether or not he did
3423. # [23:25] <gavin> philor: the latter
3424. # [23:26] <gavin> and it's fine
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3426. # [23:26] <philor> oh, the latter "he did"? good, I'll tell him you said he already had :)
3427. # [23:26] <gavin> no, the latter "turn everything on"
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3429. # [23:29] <sid0> has anyone ever tried using XBL to describe XBL?
3430. # [23:30] <dholbert> sid0, yo dawg
3431. # [23:31] <jgilbert> well that was an hg adventure
3432. # [23:31] * merike is now known as merike|away
3433. # [23:32] <dholbert> $ hg adventure
3434. # [23:32] <dholbert> You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...
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3437. # [23:33] <cpeterson> $ hg look
3438. # [23:33] <cpeterson> It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
3439. # [23:34] <hub> $ hg doctor
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3441. # [23:34] <hub> How can I help you?
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3446. # [23:36] * philor chooses a severity other than BLO, just for variety's sake
3447. # [23:37] <philor> string buffer, string buffer, who's leaking a string buffer on inbound?
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3450. # [23:38] <mbrubeck> philor: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5db46b0c2f14 ?
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3452. # [23:38] <philor> ah probably
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3459. # [23:42] <philor> so many backouts, we should figure out a way to have a tree where you could, like, try out a patch
3460. # [23:43] * jwir3|away is now known as jwir3
3461. # [23:43] <mbrubeck> Guess I should merge my backout to m-i...
3462. # [23:43] <jgilbert> philor: if you don't crash end users, does it really count as trying? :P
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3464. # [23:43] <philor> still trying, just not as much fun
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3468. # [23:46] <mbrubeck> Remember, folks: Star first, then merge.
3469. # [23:47] <Ms2ger> Two philors? :)
3470. # [23:47] <philor> three, but the other one is taking the weekend off
3471. # [23:47] <mbrubeck> good for him.
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3473. # [23:48] <mbrubeck> Now LegNeato is burning on Aurora
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3476. # [23:49] <philor> windows badslaves?
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3478. # [23:49] <mbrubeck> no
3479. # [23:49] <philor> oh, no, just burning
3480. # [23:50] <mbrubeck> Who wants to back him out? All my trees are in the middle of builds right now...
3481. # [23:51] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
3482. # [23:51] <mak> what should be backed out?
3483. # [23:51] <mbrubeck> the tip of mozilla-aurora
3484. # [23:51] <mak> ok, doing
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3487. # [23:54] * mak obvsiously forgot the approval flag :)
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3490. # [23:55] <mak> done
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3494. # [23:56] <jgilbert> heh, android builds are really fast
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