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- # Session Start: Sat Dec 17 00:00:00 2011
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:01] <BenWa> Is a JS denial of service attack considered a platform bug?
- # [00:01] <BenWa> (locks up the browser)
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- # [00:03] <darktrojan> try just got swamped
- # [00:03] <darktrojan> 5 pushes in 5 minutes :/
- # [00:04] <mak> does that mean my try builds will take a while? :)
- # [00:04] <darktrojan> do they ever not?
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- # [00:04] <mak> well, not as bad as pgo builds!
- # [00:05] <darktrojan> good point
- # [00:05] <mbrubeck> mak: It's not too bad at the moment: http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/pending.html
- # [00:06] <mbrubeck> but the pending test count will probably grow once all those builds start finishing at the same time (along with all the pushes to inbound at just now)
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- # [00:07] <khuey|away> jlebar++
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- # [00:07] <khuey> BenWa: yea
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- # [00:13] <Waldo> Julian: fwiw, I can't reproduce the vc10 build failure, against 61a46d539c69
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- # [00:15] <wg9s> I would think clobbering the OBJDIR before changing msvc versions would be advised. Just a thought.
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- # [00:17] <Waldo> wg9s: hm, did he say he'd built with 9 and then was trying 10?
- # [00:17] * Waldo missed that, if it was said
- # [00:17] <Waldo> my tree has separate vc9 and vc10 objdirs
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- # [00:17] <wg9s> Not at all sure just trying to give a sugesstion was from befor I joined the channel
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- # [00:18] <taras> joe: ping
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- # [00:18] <philor> mbrubeck: finally got tired enough of fetching summary timed out to file bug 711639 - stick 'em in there if you find others that would have a different bad choice of search term, like the one I'm forgetting other than it being 9 failures plus a leak
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- # [00:21] <Jesse> sewardj: do you know why --track-origins=yes didn't give me a function name this time? https://bug711638.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=582405
- # [00:23] <sewardj> Jesse: no, i don't. The inability to associate an address with a particular bit of code (as in this case) doesn't have anything to do with --track-origins tho
- # [00:24] <Jesse> k
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- # [00:25] <sewardj> Jesse: if you can figure out some other way to map the address to a name ...
- # [00:25] <sewardj> Jesse: nm, or objdump, or whatever (otool, on mac) ..
- # [00:25] <biesi> addr2line
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- # [00:26] <sewardj> Jesse: yeah, the gnu tools tend to be more robust than V in addr->name mapping
- # [00:26] <sewardj> so perhaps worth a try. or i can look at it for you if you want
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- # [00:31] <Julian> Waldo: did you disable webm?
- # [00:31] <Waldo> Julian: I used the default build options
- # [00:31] <Julian> Waldo: so: no :-)
- # [00:32] <Waldo> indeed
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- # [00:33] <reuben> jlebar, nice post re. boolean params. avoiding the boolean trap is one of the tips in this nice article about the Qt API design: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qq/qq13-apis.html#thebooleanparametertrap
- # [00:33] <reuben> Qt has the best API I've ever used, btw
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- # [00:46] <philor> catlee: and simplejson for w32-ix-slave43
- # [00:46] <philor> and yeah, I do sort of kind of wish I hadn't bitched quite so much about the lack of slaves this week
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- # [00:52] <jlebar> reuben, thanks for the link!
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- # [00:52] <jlebar> reuben, I do think we at Mozilla need to think harder about our APIs.
- # [00:52] <jlebar> We're stewards for a frozen API used by millions of people.
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- # [01:09] <jcranmer> I once did a #typedef enum to get around a warning in a platform header that was being compiled with -Werror
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- # [01:10] <jcranmer> er, #define enum
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- # [01:11] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: you mean #define foo 1 \n #define bar 2 ...?
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- # [01:16] <jcranmer> no
- # [01:16] <jcranmer> #define the enum keyword
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- # [01:39] <taras> gcp: url classifier is among the slowest sql stuffs in our telemetry data :(
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- # [01:41] <robcee> philor: ?
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- # [01:42] <philor> robcee: bug 711619
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- # [01:42] <robcee> sure
- # [01:43] <robcee> if I'm the owner then a=me
- # [01:43] <robcee> or, just a=me
- # [01:43] <robcee> I won't remember that in the morning
- # [01:43] <philor> :D
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- # [01:45] <mconnor|m> Drunk approvals are a longstanding Mozilla tradition
- # [01:45] <mconnor|m> <3 robcee
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- # [01:56] <dolske> lawl
- # [01:56] * dolske adds a comment to bug 701655... trophies are not food-safe, should not be used as shot glasses
- # [01:58] <darktrojan> you're giving away pre-used trophies now?
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- # [01:59] <dria> dolske :)
- # [02:00] <dolske> they're not pre-used!
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- # [02:01] <darktrojan> how did you test if they were food safe?
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- # [02:01] <philikon> is there an "else if" thing for makefiles?
- # [02:01] <dolske> darktrojan: pretty sure it says that on the original package.
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- # [02:02] <darktrojan> and you just took their word for it?
- # [02:02] * darktrojan expects experimentation
- # [02:03] <dolske> made in china, I just assume lead and/or melamine.
- # [02:03] <darktrojan> probably both
- # [02:03] <mbrubeck> melaming
- # [02:05] <darktrojan> philor, do you recognise this leak? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=45f799c8e9d3
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- # [02:05] <mbrubeck> darktrojan: bug 653080
- # [02:05] <darktrojan> woo, not me
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- # [02:05] * mbrubeck retriggers anyway, because other "leak the world" bustage has looked like 653080 before
- # [02:06] <darktrojan> oh yeah good point, just retrigger
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- # [02:07] <lsumar> does anybody know what hulahop?
- # [02:07] <lsumar> *is
- # [02:07] <lsumar> what hulahop is?
- # [02:08] <darktrojan> with another o it's a large ring of plastic :P
- # [02:08] <mbrubeck> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/HulaHop says that it's a Gecko-based browser for the One Laptop Per Child project http://wiki.laptop.org/go/HulaHop
- # [02:08] <dolske> it's.... you know, for kids.
- # [02:08] <mbrubeck> dolske++
- # [02:08] <lsumar> lol, yeah… i read that but it is sparsely populated...
- # [02:09] <mbrubeck> or rather, a Gecko Python widget
- # [02:09] <lsumar> it seems to be used on the olpc's and they have been stuck on ff 3.6 because support was dropped
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- # [02:10] <lsumar> i was curious if anybody could explain what exactly hulahop did…?
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- # [02:10] <mbrubeck> let you embed Gecko into a Python app, apparently
- # [02:10] <mbrubeck> Do you have a specific thing you want to do with it?
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- # [02:11] <lsumar> not myself, i'm at a conference for the olpc and they don't seem to have a browser
- # [02:11] <lsumar> not a proper one
- # [02:11] <lsumar> i was curious how difficult it would be to build firefox (a newer one) for the olpc
- # [02:12] <mbrubeck> I seem to remember running Firefox on my XO-1, but I don't know if that was within Sugar or in a different OS
- # [02:12] <mbrubeck> probably only within the Gnome desktop
- # [02:12] <mbrubeck> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox
- # [02:13] <WeirdAl> Hmm... aminutewithbrendan usually has an update every other month... we're due :)
- # [02:14] <lsumar> that link seems out of date. they are on 3.6 now...
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- # [02:16] <@dbaron> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=MOZ_BUILD_APP shows a bunch of tests for whether MOZ_BUILD_APP is "mobile"
- # [02:17] <@dbaron> but it looks like it's now "mobile/android" or "mobile/xul" which means those tests don't check anything useful anymore
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- # [02:17] <@dbaron> unless I'm missing something
- # [02:17] <mbrubeck> I have a fix for just one of those in bug 710960.... :/
- # [02:17] <@dbaron> perhaps somebody should go through them all?
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- # [02:19] <lsumar> thanx mbrubeck. it helped.
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- # [02:42] <aki> i think dougt intentionally is allowing for --enable-application=mobile to be silently translated to mobile/xul
- # [02:43] <aki> i don't particularly care, but we may want to check for any errant --enable-application=mobile mozconfigs before we change those
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- # [03:36] <ewong> in mxr, how do I search for this Error function's definition : http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/local/src/nsPop3Protocol.cpp#2422
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- # [03:38] <jcranmer> http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/comm-central/mailnews/local/src/nsPop3Protocol.cpp.html#l1299 ?
- # [03:38] <jcranmer> ewong: ^^ ?
- # [03:38] <ewong> jcranmer: dxr?
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- # [03:39] <ewong> jcranmer, cool! Thanks.. what was the search pattern you used?
- # [03:39] <jcranmer> I loaded nsPop3Protocol, and noticed that there was a nsPop3Protocol::Error before I scrolled down to read the code?
- # [03:40] <ewong> Oh.
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- # [03:40] <jcranmer> [the DXR instances are a bit old, but ns*Protocol tends to be fairly stable]
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- # [03:40] <ewong> I feel stupid.
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- # [03:40] <jcranmer> if I didn't do that
- # [03:40] <jcranmer> I would have clicked on it
- # [03:41] <jcranmer> and noted that the method name in question is
- # [03:41] <jcranmer> PRint32 nsPop3Protocol::Error(PRInt32)
- # [03:41] <ewong> I was using all sorts of regexp on MXR, but wasn't getting anything useful
- # [03:41] <ewong> of course, my regexp fu isn't great.. so I probably made some mistakes
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- # [03:41] <jcranmer> C++ isn't syntactically regular, it's recursively enumerable
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- # [03:42] <ewong> jcranmer: btw, have you built mail lately? (within the past 24hrs)?
- # [03:42] <jcranmer> actually, given other domain knowledge, I would have figured that `Error' was either a member of nsPop3Protocol or nsMsgProtocol
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- # [03:42] <jcranmer> Dec 13 is the last non-local revision I have
- # [03:43] <jcranmer> I have built it within the past 3 hours, just not tip of c-c
- # [03:43] <ewong> jcranmer: hmm I updated my local repo last night... and I'm getting this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408774
- # [03:43] <jcranmer> also, I'm on Linux
- # [03:44] <ewong> Ooh
- # [03:44] <jcranmer> also, that's an m-c problme
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- # [03:47] <ewong> gonna try building m-c and see if it chokes..
- # [03:48] <ewong> hmmm maybe the lastest pull from m-c might fix this
- # [03:49] <ewong> jcranmer: thanks!
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- # [03:49] <jcranmer|away> np
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- # [03:58] <joe> taras: late pong
- # [03:58] <Waldo> ewong: the latest pull definitely fixes that
- # [03:58] <taras> joe: nm
- # [03:59] <ewong> Waldo: yes.. I think it does.. \o/
- # [03:59] <taras> joe: was trying to find your profile
- # [03:59] <Waldo> even a long-ago latest, probably since 10:15 or so ZST
- # [03:59] <taras> but then i found it
- # [03:59] <ewong> Waldo just pulled again.. now it seems to be compiling..
- # [03:59] <joe> taras: mozillians?
- # [04:00] <taras> joe: places.sqlite
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- # [04:33] <ewong> just did a |hg pull| and |hg update -r default| (these are the right commands?), and I'm getting this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1408820
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- # [04:39] <Waldo> ewong: I think you might need to clobber (?)
- # [04:39] <Waldo> I seem to recall hearing that pldhash got converted from C to C++
- # [04:39] <Waldo> with a file name change
- # [04:39] <Waldo> this was a long time ago, tho
- # [04:39] <ewong> hmmm thanks Waldo.. I always forget to clobber..
- # [04:40] * Waldo doesn't clobber unless his build fails, generally
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- # [05:31] <@dbaron> Waldo, amusingly enough, ZST does not occur as a timezone abbreviation in the TZ database
- # [05:31] <Waldo> jlebar was saying there was conceivably ambiguity with Zulu
- # [05:32] <Waldo> gerv's definitely used it a bunch, can't recall others using it too much tho
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- # [06:04] <darktrojan> oh fun, the leak I've been chasing is not in my test, or in the code I'm testing, but in a component I have absolutely no understanding of and that doesn't have tests of its own
- # [06:04] <darktrojan> advice?
- # [06:07] <roc> which component?
- # [06:07] <darktrojan> the find service
- # [06:08] <darktrojan> doesn't appear to have changed since we moved to hg
- # [06:08] <darktrojan> :/
- # [06:12] <roc> you mean find-as-you-type?
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- # [06:13] <Unfocused> that's ear-marked as needing a re-write. thanks for volunteering!
- # [06:13] <darktrojan> I guess, although in this case it's being used a different way
- # [06:13] <philor> there are some tests in toolkit for those bits, but the core bits? yeah, you own that now
- # [06:14] <philor> at least, there must be one, since the very first orange bug I filed was on one, which has been disabled ever since
- # [06:15] <darktrojan> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/viewsource/content/viewPartialSource.js#283
- # [06:15] <roc> darktrojan: is this bug 669865?
- # [06:15] <roc> er, bug 699845?
- # [06:16] <darktrojan> no
- # [06:16] <darktrojan> I'm not mad enough to go hunting for leaks to fix
- # [06:19] <darktrojan> er, we insert '\u200B\u200B\u200B\u200B\u200B' into the partial source and find it again later
- # [06:19] <darktrojan> that sounds like a great idea
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- # [07:59] <mib_8dpfmi> hi
- # [07:59] <mib_8dpfmi> I want to know the cause of the crash the browser through the GDB
- # [07:59] <mib_8dpfmi> bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668813
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- # [08:04] <mib_8dpfmi> I want to help in the cause of the crash of the browser through the GDB https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668813
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- # [08:09] <brahmana|web> mib_8dpfmi: Are you asking how you should debug FF with GDB?
- # [08:10] <mib_8dpfmi> brahmana|web: Yes
- # [08:11] <brahmana|web> mib_8dpfmi: Do you have a debug build of Mozilla?
- # [08:11] <mib_8dpfmi> brahmana|web: Yes
- # [08:13] <brahmana|web> Great. If you haven't already read this, here is a page dedicated to GDB : https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Linux_FAQ
- # [08:14] <hub> mib_8dpfmi: MacOS or Linux?
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- # [08:14] <brahmana|web> Now the code associated with the bug you mentioned is not familiar to me. But since it happens to be a re-opened bug the patches previously submitted should give you a starting point.
- # [08:16] <mib_8dpfmi> I try to run it through GDB
- # [08:16] <mib_8dpfmi> This report of the crash https://rapidshare.com/files/2925207438/carsh_report.zip
- # [08:17] <mib_8dpfmi> Do you show the cause of the crash through the report ?
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- # [08:19] <brahmana|web> No, I am not familiar with font rendering code.
- # [08:20] <brahmana|web> You probably want to put up the stack on the bug itself. That will get the developer's attention.
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- # [08:24] <mib_8dpfmi> This interface xcode http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq217/movh/d60b56fe.png
- # [08:24] <mib_8dpfmi> What do I do to find out the cause of the crash?
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- # [08:28] <brahmana|web> mib_8dpfmi: Are you familiar with gdb? Have you used it previously to debug other programs?
- # [08:29] <mib_8dpfmi> brahmana|web: No
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- # [08:31] <brahmana|web> You should first get familiar with GDB. This might help : http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/
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- # [08:32] <brahmana|web> mib_8dpfmi: Also, as mentioned in the topic of this channel, if you are new to mozilla and want to help #introduction is a better place to start.
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- # [08:33] <brahmana|web> mib_8dpfmi: Although it is late Friday night or early Saturday morning for most developers. So you will have to wait a little longer to get answers.
- # [08:34] <Unfocused> saturday evening for me :P
- # [08:34] <Unfocused> (and no, i don't know gdb either)
- # [08:34] <brahmana|web> oh yeah.. totally forgot the folks from down under.. !! :)
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- # [08:35] <mib_8dpfmi> brahmana|web: Thank you
- # [08:35] <brahmana|web> np
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- # [16:31] <Ahmed> Hello, I am currently doing a study on the fix-time of reported bugs in Mozilla, I noticed that many bugs are fixed very fast. Some in a few minutes, others within a few hours. What is/are the potential causes for this? I am currently thinking of developers first fixing a bug and then afterwards reporting it en setting the status to resolved. Does this make sense? Thanks in advance!
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- # [16:34] <KWierso> Ahmed: yeah, that happens sometimes. the developer has a change already ready, then files a bug to make sure it's getting tracked in the system
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- # [16:35] <wg9s> Ahmed: Could be, sometimes a developer finds and issue and comes up with a fix. But code cannot be checked in without being associated with a a bug so a bug needs to be filed becuase fo the defined process.
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- # [16:38] <Ms2ger> Also, developers tend to subscribe to bugmail about new bugs being filed about code they work on, and sometimes just decide to fix immediately
- # [16:38] <Ahmed> I noticed that over 25 % of all bugs are fixed in less than 3 days, without the enhancements taken into account. This is quite fast I think
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- # [16:39] <Ms2ger> That's more than I'd expected
- # [16:40] <Ms2ger> Is this across all products?
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- # [16:40] <Ahmed> different product, I can upload the chart (box-plots) if you are interested
- # [16:41] <KWierso> Ahmed: you also might want to look at the actual resolution field to make sure that they're actually getting fixed and not just closing out spam bugs
- # [16:41] <wg9s> Ahmed: How fast a bug can be fixed is really based on how good you are at filing the bug. A well described bug that has reliable steps to reproduce that is an actual bug and not just a user support issue or a disagreement on how things should work, that is easily reproducible will be much easier to fix and more likely to be fixed quickly.
- # [16:41] <Ms2ger> /invalid bugs
- # [16:41] <Ahmed> different product*, I took the following product: Core, Bugzilla, Firefox, Thunderbird and Seamonkey
- # [16:42] <wg9s> so, how good a job the submitter does in describing the issue really makes a huge difference.
- # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Did you also look at differences between those products?
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- # [16:43] <Ahmed> I will put it online, sec :)
- # [16:44] <Ahmed> http://win.ua.ac.be/~alamkan/boxplot-mozilla.pdf
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- # [16:45] <Ahmed> I considered the creation time of a bug and the time the resolution is changed to resolved, leaving out reopened bugs.
- # [16:48] <Ms2ger> Fix-Time is in days?
- # [16:48] <Ahmed> yes
- # [16:48] <Ahmed> with a logarithmic scale for the fix-time
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- # [16:48] <wg9s> Ahmed: reason the ones filed as firefox took so much longer is that a lot of them are really core bugs filed ont he wrong product. I am thinking maybe some kind of wizard thing for filing bugs that asks some questions to define the component would help here.
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- # [16:51] <Ahmed> But I think in Bugzilla, the product of a bug is updated in the database whenever the product changes?
- # [16:51] <wg9s> bugs on how the page renders are never Firefox bugs but often get filed in the Firefox:General category.
- # [16:52] <wg9s> this delays resolution.
- # [16:53] <wg9s> We expect users trying to report issues to understand our product modularization.
- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> Yeah, might be interesting to look at (resolution time - last product/component change) as well
- # [16:56] <wg9s> Another approach would be to have people periodically go through all the Firefox:General bugs and figure out where they really belong.
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- # [16:57] <Ms2ger> wg9s, yeah, one problem with that is that a lot of UI bugs genuinely belong in Fx:Gen
- # [16:58] <KWierso> yeah, I've seen tons of bugs filed in Firefox:General that just sit around for weeks with no response. I move them to Toolkit:Addon Manager (for example), and it has a Mozilla employee on it right away. Firefox:General seems to be where bugs go to die lonely and unwanted
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- # [17:00] <Ahmed> (i was writing everything down) what about bugs with the wrong severity?
- # [17:01] <wg9s> MS2ger:Yes so if we make up a Firefox:UI component then anything in Firefox:General is somthing that needs recategorization.
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- # [17:01] <Ahmed> the most part of the reported bugs have severity normal. I think this is because it is the default value when submitting a bug, people leave it this way?
- # [17:01] <Ms2ger> wg9s, I think that would probably be useful
- # [17:01] <Ms2ger> Ahmed, yeah
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- # [17:01] <KWierso> some components have teams assigned to (re)triage bugs that have a wrong/missing severity/priority
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- # [17:02] <Ahmed> so maybe it is also interesting to look at the fixtimes of the different component separatly
- # [17:02] <Ms2ger> Crashes are cri, but apart from that I haven't seen severity used much
- # [17:03] <Ahmed> but when a deadline is coming close, you don't take severity of bugs into account?
- # [17:03] <KWierso> we're on a rolling release, we don't have hard deadlines anymore
- # [17:03] <KWierso> :P
- # [17:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2cff3f89e54b - Olli Pettay - Bug 711651, Clean up ResizeReflowIgnoreOverride, r=roc
- # [17:04] <Ahmed> haha, yes, I noticed that too
- # [17:04] <Ms2ger> Well, in past times, we would use blocking2.0 flags
- # [17:04] <KWierso> but yeah, the only severities I've seen used much are critical, normal and enhancement
- # [17:05] <KWierso> and blocker, I guess
- # [17:06] <KWierso> speaking just for the Jetpack team, we use the Priority field more than severity
- # [17:07] <Ms2ger> I've only seen bz use Priority in Core :)
- # [17:07] <KWierso> no one's perfect :)
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- # [17:09] <Ahmed> but is it usual/feasable that bugs reported by non-developers to get fixed in less than 3 days?
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- # [17:10] <KWierso> depends on the bug, how well the bug's reporter reports the bug, and what else is going on for the developer(s) that will be fixing the bug at the time the bug's reported
- # [17:10] <Ahmed> when the quality of the bug is ok
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- # [17:11] <Ms2ger> Then it depends how afraid developers are of touching the relevant code
- # [17:11] <KWierso> Ms2ger++
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- # [17:11] <Ms2ger> If it's spaghetti code with barely any tests, such as, say, docshell or session history...
- # [17:11] <smaug> if the right developer gets informed about the bug, less than 3 days is feasible for small-ish bugs
- # [17:12] <smaug> Ms2ger: there are tests for shistory
- # [17:12] <smaug> and shistory code isn't really that bad, it is how docshell uses it
- # [17:12] <Ms2ger> That's why I said "barely" :)
- # [17:12] <KWierso> Ahmed: you also have to take reviewers' review queue lengths into account
- # [17:12] <smaug> (and ofc session history is almost fully unspecified in HTML spec)
- # [17:13] <Ahmed> how fast possible do you estimate such bugs from non-developers to be fixed?
- # [17:13] <smaug> it really depends on bugs
- # [17:13] <smaug> I've fixed several bugs in hours (including reviews)
- # [17:13] <KWierso> couple hours to a few months, depending on circumstances
- # [17:13] <Ahmed> by reviewers, do you mean bug triagers?
- # [17:14] <Ms2ger> No
- # [17:14] <smaug> code reviewers
- # [17:14] <smaug> Ahmed: someone needs to review the fix for the bug
- # [17:14] <Ahmed> is that after the resolution has been set to resolved?
- # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Before the code can land
- # [17:15] <Ms2ger> We've got a nice graph somewhere
- # [17:16] <Ms2ger> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Developer_Guide/How_to_Submit_a_Patch
- # [17:17] <romeo> Ahmed, if a reporter sets the severity to minor then another person will think differently and there is a relatively high possibility of a useless sequence of spam comments will be added to the bug until the severity is changed back to at least normal. Once you have tried that as a bug reporter, you may choose to never use that value again.
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- # [17:22] <Ahmed> On the other hand, there are "clear" guidelines on how to assess the severity
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- # [17:34] <Ahmed> I would like to thank all of you for your feedback, new ideas! I really appreciate it :)
- # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Np :)
- # [17:37] <mbrubeck> smaug: m-c is burning
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- # [17:38] <mbrubeck> after only 1 minute; could be infrastructure
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- # [17:38] <mbrubeck> yeah, looks like a problem with the build scripts
- # [17:38] <Ms2ger> ImportError: No module named simplejson
- # [17:38] <Ms2ger> jmaher, ^
- # [17:40] <jmaher> Ms2ger: ick...we dont' have that everywhere...is there a log file for this
- # [17:40] <jmaher> no simplejson in python 2.4...talos problem I assume?
- # [17:40] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=2cff3f89e54b
- # [17:40] <Ms2ger> Windows builders
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- # [17:42] <lurking_work> I think philor was fighting some like that yesterday - I think he found it was an insane slave
- # [17:43] <Ms2ger> Hmm, they're both on -44
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- # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Dec 16 23:05:46 <philor> catlee: last two Windows debug builds on inbound, one is 44 so I know it's fresh
- # [17:44] <lurking_work> I 'think' that was one of them
- # [17:44] <philor> I blamed 43's troubles on it being freshly returned from the grave, and then aki said it was a bad patch that had been reverted
- # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Dec 16 23:06:10 <philor> mw32-ix-slave05 and w32-ix-slave44
- # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Dec 16 23:06:39 <philor> (where by fresh I mean fresh out of the grave)
- # [17:44] <philor> apparently it was both :(
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- # [17:49] <jmaher> Ms2ger: not sure I understand all of that
- # [17:49] * mbrubeck still thinks it's funny we are publishing Firefox releases every 6 weeks but haven't updated to Python 2.5 since it was released five years ago.
- # [17:49] <philor> https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/w32-ix-slave44 - it reads like a demon's resume
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- # [17:49] <mbrubeck> Hey, look, the last 2.4 release was exactly three years ago yesterday: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.6/
- # [17:49] <jmaher> mbrubeck: talos runs on 2.4, other unittests on 2.5
- # [17:50] <jmaher> we just hada bug to install 2.6 on the slave machines this past week
- # [17:50] <mbrubeck> And Python 2.5 is one month older than my daughter... :)
- # [17:50] <jmaher> heh
- # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Burn
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- # [17:51] <jmaher> mbrubeck: so we have most of the legwork done to upgrade talos to a newer python version
- # [17:51] <jmaher> the big blocker was the pywin32 modules that we use, now we have a better install/update story for that
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- # [18:02] <nigelb> Oh. Tree is open.
- # [18:02] <jhk> ms2ger: how to print stuff on the console using moz APIs? any idea.
- # [18:02] * nigelb applauds everyone who got it open :)
- # [18:02] <Ms2ger> console.log?
- # [18:02] <Ms2ger> Or stderr?
- # [18:03] <jhk> aha :)
- # [18:03] <jhk> include?
- # [18:04] <Ms2ger> Sorry?
- # [18:05] <jhk> got it . Thanks:)
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- # [18:09] <erione> jdm: ping
- # [18:09] <jdm> erione: pong
- # [18:10] <erione> i would like to work on this - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645531
- # [18:11] <jdm> erione: does the explanation in comment 2 make sense?
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- # [18:16] <erione> jdm: i haven't checked the test file, so its not making sense at the moment, but let me check iit once
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- # [18:17] <Ms2ger> jdm, ignoring failure of a jsapi function whose first parameter is a cx sounds fishy
- # [18:18] <jdm> Ms2ger: it's not ignoring failure, it's simply not killing the whole process immediately because a failure occurred
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- # [18:27] <NeilAway> how to find a NS_NOINTERFACE thrown when the C++ only contains return NS_OK;
- # [18:27] <Ms2ger> The C++ you're looking at isn't the code you're calling?
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- # [18:32] <erione> jdm: there are many test files in netwerk/test/unit_ipc/
- # [18:32] <erione> which one should i run?
- # [18:32] <jdm> erione: yes. it doesn't matter which one, as long as you change the corresponding test in test/unit/
- # [18:33] <jdm> this is a general problem with the IPC test harness, not a particular test
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- # [18:35] <mbrubeck> dao++ for doing checkin-needed landings
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- # [18:39] <erione> jdm: i tried running 2-3, but none failed, (or i might not be getting what comment#2 wants to convey)
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- # [18:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, it is, the breakpoint proves it
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- # [18:40] <Ms2ger> nice
- # [18:40] <erione> jdm: could you please give me a slight insight that helps me to start off?
- # [18:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: the C++ is Foo::GetBar(nsIBar ** result) { NS_IF_ADDREF(*result = mBar); return NS_OK; }
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- # [18:41] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: however it appears that if mBar is a stale XBL binding then xpconnect dies
- # [18:41] <jdm> erione: yes. if you run |SOLO_FILE=test_httpcancel_wrap.js make -C objdir/netwerk/test/ check-one| you should see a test run successfully
- # [18:42] <mbrubeck> thanks for helping with bug marking, Ms2ger
- # [18:42] <Ms2ger> Np
- # [18:42] <Ms2ger> Noticed too late to be of much help, I'm afraid :)
- # [18:43] <erione> jdm: yes
- # [18:43] <jdm> erione: now, test_httpcancel_wrap.js just causes test_httpcancel.js to be run in another process
- # [18:44] <jdm> erione: so if you change test_httpcancel.js to have a syntax error, you should see something different happen when you run it again
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- # [18:53] <erione> jdm: yes
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- # [18:53] <jdm> erione: great. now, if you make the change I suggest in the bug, you should see something different happen again once you recompile :)
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- # [19:12] <Ms2ger> janv, did you file that *aRefCnt--?
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- # [19:14] <erione> jdm: in this line if (!script) { return false; } i changed return false to true, but nothing different happened :(
- # [19:15] <jdm> erione: and you rebuilt objdir/ipc/testshell and objdir/toolkit/library ?
- # [19:16] <erione> yes, i recompiled the whole firefox
- # [19:17] <jdm> that's peculiar
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- # [19:18] <erione> jdm: this is the output http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409914
- # [19:19] <jdm> erione: and what does the output look like when you revert the change?
- # [19:20] <erione> jdm: almost same - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409915
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- # [19:21] <jdm> erione: hmm, what's the change you made to test_httpcancel.js?
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- # [19:22] <erione> instead of | execute_test(); | i wrote | execute | in the function run_test()
- # [19:24] <jdm> erione: ah. try execute_test)( instead, and if nothing changes, add a foo)( at the top of the file
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- # [19:26] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, rs? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409920
- # [19:31] <jfkthame> Ms2ger: yes, that's clearly correct, as the macro includes the semicolon already
- # [19:31] <Ms2ger> Indeed
- # [19:31] <jfkthame> rs=me, if that's any use to you
- # [19:31] <Ms2ger> Sure is
- # [19:34] <erione> jdm: yes,
- # [19:35] <jdm> erione: yes, what?
- # [19:35] <erione> jdm: this portion missing when i change | return false | to | return true | - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409923
- # [19:35] <jdm> hmm, that's not what I would expect
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- # [19:35] <jdm> erione: can you paste the output of both?
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- # [19:37] <Ms2ger> Bah, 500 error on bmo
- # [19:37] <erione> jdm: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409936 and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1409937
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- # [19:39] <erione> jdm: ahh, wait - confused between all the pastes
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- # [19:47] <erione> jdm: ahh, no change....i added | foo)( |too!!
- # [19:47] <mbrubeck> argh, network troubles
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- # [19:50] <mbrubeck> philor: I got the log from FTP, and your guess is correct.
- # [19:50] <jdm> erione: oooh, I figured it out
- # [19:50] <mbrubeck> of course
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- # [19:50] <jdm> erione: I was wrong in the bug, this doesn't happen if the file is incorrect. Add sendCommand('foo)(') to the test_httpcancel_wrap.js
- # [19:50] <mbrubeck> now, if anyone can explain the WinXP pgo (perma?)-orange on my *backout* from last night, I'd love to hear it.
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- # [19:51] <jdm> erione: you should see the test hang, and if you press ctr+c then you'll see that the process crashed
- # [19:51] <jdm> erione: (without your changes)
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- # [19:52] <philor> mbrubeck: I'm with you on the theory behind that retrigger on the fx-team merge, frequent and you just happened to catch two oranges while it caught one green
- # [19:52] <mbrubeck> yeah, I'm hoping so
- # [19:53] <mbrubeck> in any case, the backout of the backout is already on inbound and can be merged if for some bizarre reason it needs to
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- # [20:00] <Ms2ger> janv, can you cc me if bmo ever comes back up?
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- # [20:00] <janv> ms2ger: you cc'ed yourself
- # [20:01] <janv> bug 711727
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- # [20:01] <janv> ms2ger: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f8446386899f
- # [20:01] <Ms2ger> Go me :)
- # [20:01] <janv> heh
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- # [20:03] <Ms2ger> Oh, that bug :)
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- # [20:07] <erione> jdm: still nothing happened :(
- # [20:07] <erione> also i couldn't see any hang
- # [20:08] <jdm> erione: to confirm: you change the return true back to false, rebuilt, reverted the change to test_httpchannel.js, and added the sendCommand('foo)(') to test_httpchannel_wrap.js?
- # [20:09] <erione> ahh, forgot to revert the change in test_httpchannel.js
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- # [20:16] <erione> jdm: phew.......finally crashed...
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- # [20:18] <jdm> erione: great!
- # [20:21] <smaug> I wish it was possible to append already_AddRefed object to nsCOMArray/nsTArray<nsCOMPtr<> >
- # [20:21] <smaug> without need for any extra addref/release
- # [20:21] <janv> it should be possible
- # [20:22] <smaug> how?
- # [20:22] <janv> one sec
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- # [20:23] <janv> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDOMFile.cpp#335
- # [20:23] <janv> this is nsRefPtr
- # [20:24] <janv> I guess it shoul work for nsCOMPtr too
- # [20:24] <janv> should
- # [20:24] <erione> jdm: yes, no crash after i applied the change
- # [20:24] <smaug> indexedDB::FileInfo is a concrete class, which makes this very different
- # [20:24] <jdm> erione: excellent. can you change the other return false in that function to a return true as well?
- # [20:25] <jdm> then that patch should be ready to go
- # [20:25] <janv> ah
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- # [20:31] <philor> mbrubeck: and, woo, handy example of "PGO-build-only test failure" :)
- # [20:31] <mbrubeck> yeah...
- # [20:31] <mbrubeck> thank goodness for 3-hourly PGO
- # [20:32] <mbrubeck> or actually 6-hourly-on-a-tree-with-few-enough-pushes
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- # [20:33] <erione> jdm: changed the other one also, what should i do now?
- # [20:34] <jdm> erione: the patch should be ready for submission now
- # [20:35] <erione> ok, i am uploading
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- # [20:39] <erione> jdm: shall i ask for review or feedback?
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- # [20:40] <jdm> erione: you can hit up bent for the review, I think
- # [20:40] <erione> ok
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- # [20:46] <erione> jdm: submitted for review...
- # [20:49] <jdm> erione: you'll want to revert the test_httpcancel_wrap.js change :)
- # [20:49] <jdm> erione: also, if you could follow the instructions at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F for using the correct hg settings, that would be helpful
- # [20:50] <erione> ok, np, i'll check that out and then will submit after showing the final patch to you
- # [20:51] <jdm> great
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- # [21:00] <Ms2ger> bjacob++
- # [21:01] <bjacob> Ms2ger: ?
- # [21:01] <Ms2ger> CheckedInt
- # [21:02] <bjacob> Ms2ger: oh sure, i wanted to do it but there have been too many higher priorities
- # [21:02] <Ms2ger> Of course
- # [21:02] <Ms2ger> It's hardly urgent
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- # [21:11] <qheaden> Hello everyone!
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- # [21:14] <erione> jdm: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1410029 - final patch
- # [21:14] <jdm> hi qheaden :)
- # [21:15] <NeilAway> smaug: doesn't it like it because of a const somewhere?
- # [21:15] <jdm> erione: perfect!
- # [21:15] <erione> ok
- # [21:19] <qheaden> I have a question about the browser's context menu test. My patch adds an element to the context menu only when a word is added to the spellcheck dictionary. How can I invoke adding a word to the dictionary from JS?
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- # [21:19] <qheaden> I'm dealing with the file browser/base/content/test/test_contextmenu.html
- # [21:19] <NeilAway> smaug: I can append an already_AddRefed<nsISupports> to an nsTArray<nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> > without any problems here
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- # [21:21] <jhk> jdm : here it fails. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1410032.
- # [21:21] <jhk> it appends filestream here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsFormSubmission.cpp#549
- # [21:21] <smaug> NeilAway: hmm. I guess I need to re-try
- # [21:22] <jhk> but in /home/jiggy/moxilla/asrc/src/xpcom/io/nsMultiplexInputStream.cpp, line 197
- # [21:22] <jhk> it is not mStream.available()
- # [21:22] <jhk> its not available and results fails.
- # [21:24] <wg9s> boaq
- # [21:24] <wg9s> oopps\
- # [21:24] <smaug> NeilAway: I get "error: allocating an object of abstract class < the_type_in_nsCOMPtr>"
- # [21:24] <wg9s> well i screwed it up so isnl;t useful anyway
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- # [21:27] <jdm> jhk: good find
- # [21:28] <jhk> jdm: so how to ensure that filestream is empty or not
- # [21:28] <jhk> ?
- # [21:28] <jdm> jhk: so do you know what is calling nsMultiplexInputStream::Available?
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- # [21:29] <jhk> one sec
- # [21:33] <jhk> jdm :http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsMultiplexInputStream.cpp#196
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- # [21:33] <jdm> jhk: but what is the code that calls that?
- # [21:34] <jhk> looking...
- # [21:34] <jdm> jhk: from reading nsFormSubmission, it looks like we just keep passing streams around, we don't actually try to get the information out of them for a while
- # [21:34] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsFormSubmission.cpp#573 for example
- # [21:34] <jdm> and that's called by http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsHTMLFormElement.cpp#906
- # [21:35] <jdm> jhk: I think we need to go diving into the docshell code that happens starting in OnLinkClickSync
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- # [21:36] <jhk> jdm: where it is?
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- # [21:37] <jdm> jhk: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#11391
- # [21:37] <jdm> jhk: then aPostDataStream is passed to InternalLoad
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- # [21:43] <qheaden> The context menu test is a plain mochitest. Can plain mochitests add words to a personal dictionary?
- # [21:44] <jhk> jdm : http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#11453 this takes document url. but then it also need to check if it exists or not.
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- # [21:45] <qheaden> Also, where does the personal dictionary actually exist?
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- # [21:47] <smaug> qheaden: chrome and/or browser-chrome mochitests can add words to the personal dictionary
- # [21:47] <smaug> (don't remember where that dictionary is stored)
- # [21:48] <NeilAway> smaug: weird. must be a gcc bug
- # [21:48] <smaug> NeilAway: I'm using clang
- # [21:48] <smaug> perhaps I'm doing something wrong
- # [21:48] <jdm> jhk: I think we need to follow the trail of aPostData until the code tries to get the data out of the stream
- # [21:49] <smaug> qheaden: and, since test_contextmenu.html uses netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalXPConnect'), it can add new words to the dictionary
- # [21:49] <jdm> jhk: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#8841 is relevant - we add the stream to the channel that performs the HTTP post
- # [21:49] <jdm> it's still only the channel, though
- # [21:49] <qheaden> smaug: Ahh ok. But now though?
- # [21:50] <jdm> er, only the stream
- # [21:50] <qheaden> smaug: Do I have to access some sort of component?
- # [21:51] <NeilAway> can anyone on a) linux b) mac please load http://xml.pastebin.mozilla.org/1410056 as a XUL document and tell me whether all the pairs of tabs match?
- # [21:51] <smaug> qheaden: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/extensions/spellcheck/idl/mozIPersonalDictionary.idl
- # [21:52] <jdm> jhk: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/protocol/http/HttpBaseChannel.cpp#466 is where the stream is stored, and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpChannel.cpp#656 is where the stream is used again
- # [21:52] <jdm> jhk: I need to run some errands, so see if you can follow the trail from there
- # [21:52] <qheaden> smaug: Ok, so I need to load that component in the test?
- # [21:53] <smaug> qheaden: search in mxr how spellchecker in used
- # [21:53] <jhk> jdm : yup. this is all it requires. Thanks! :)
- # [21:54] <qheaden> smaug: Wel, I pretty much know how the spellchecker is used, as I am on my second bugfix with it. I just need to find out how to access it in the mochitest.
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- # [21:54] <smaug> qheaden: well, check how it is accessed in the browser chrome code
- # [21:54] <smaug> and do the same
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- # [21:55] <qheaden> smaug: Ok. Thanks for the help. XPCOM is amazing, and it still confuses me at times. :P
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- # [22:06] <jcranmer> xpcom is amazing?
- # [22:07] <qheaden> :P
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- # [22:07] <jcranmer> amazingly bad more like
- # [22:07] <qheaden> HA HA HA
- # [22:07] <qheaden> I tend to agree.
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- # [22:08] <jcranmer> then there is xpconnect which is simultaneously both good and the most horrible thing you've ever laid eyes on
- # [22:08] <qheaden> This is my second spellchecker bug I'm working on. I think I'm going to move to another area of FF after this.
- # [22:09] <smaug> jcranmer: what is amazingly bad in XPCOM ?
- # [22:10] <jcranmer> lessee, where to start
- # [22:10] <jcranmer> the boilerplate you have to do, CID/contract id madness
- # [22:10] <jcranmer> pointer allocation inanity
- # [22:10] <jcranmer> especially if you use, say, inout array parameters
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> (or string/wstring instead of AString and friends)
- # [22:11] <qheaden> Gluing languages to C++ always tends to be pretty nasty.
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> error checking hooplah
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> magic macros
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> try getting cycle collection right
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- # [22:11] <jcranmer> QI fiddly edge cases
- # [22:11] <smaug> cycle collection has nothing to do with xpcom
- # [22:12] <jcranmer> similar pains of macro magic, though
- # [22:12] <jcranmer> oh, you can't easily have trees of interfaces with trees of implementing classes
- # [22:12] <smaug> cycle collection can be painful, but mainly because glue-ing JS to ref counted C++ is tricky
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- # [22:13] <qheaden> Textareas are considered nsEditors right?
- # [22:13] <jcranmer> also, it's a fun case of let's-implement-our-own-RTTI
- # [22:13] <smaug> textareas do have associated editor, yes
- # [22:14] <jcranmer> (granted, that is C++'s fault)
- # [22:16] <smaug> qheaden: Components.classes["@mozilla.org/spellchecker/personaldictionary;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.mozIPersonalDictionary).addWord("hellofff", "");
- # [22:16] <smaug> that seems to do the trick
- # [22:16] <smaug> (my test word was hellofff)
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- # [23:09] <Ms2ger> Hi Waldo
- # [23:09] <Waldo> ohai
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- # [23:11] <Waldo> Ms2ger: one of evilpie's static-analysis warnings was because a function didn't have the noreturn attribute; tried adding it to mfbt, replacing NS_NORETURN, unfortunately mozalloc uses it and builds before JS; not sure what to do about that just yet
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- # [23:12] <Ms2ger> Mm
- # [23:12] <Waldo> I could file the bug, dump the patch in it, if you want to look
- # [23:13] * Waldo might as well do that, while he's not particularly involved in figuring out a fix
- # [23:14] * Ms2ger stays away from mozalloc :)
- # [23:14] <Ms2ger> Personally, I'd ask khuey|away :)
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- # [23:45] <wg9s> ?me always thought MFBT was either something entirely inappropriate or a Mistyping of MTBF.
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- # [23:51] <Waldo> it's a bit of fun naming the stuff such that it has a fun abbreviation
- # [23:51] <Waldo> the corresponding thing in WebKit is the WebKit Template Framework, for comparison
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