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  6. # [00:09] <Jesse> nemo: they'll still appear in stats based on web server logs (and why would you not use those stats?)
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  28. # [00:57] <Callek_Away> question, what gecko comp would I stuff Bug 714434 into?
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  30. # [00:57] <Callek_Away> ooo wait, bug report seems to suggest it is SM only (will have to be sure)
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  69. # [02:44] <regen> do people still work albeit holiday?
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  74. # [02:46] <qheaden> Hey everyone! Quick question. How does firefox do with Visual Studio 2010?
  75. # [02:49] <tbsaunde> huh? it builds just fine usually
  76. # [02:50] <qheaden> Oh ok. I'm thinking about upgrading to 2010 (for some other side projects of mine), and I want to make sure that it won't break any mozilla functionality.
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  79. # [02:56] <tbsaunde> qheaden: wel, its been a while but I'm pretty sure there's alot of people who build with it
  80. # [02:57] <tbsaunde> err, while since I've built on !linux
  81. # [02:57] <qheaden> I see that it can compile on express edition. So i take it that FF doesn't use any ATL or MFC.
  82. # [02:57] <qheaden> Because you can't get those in express versions.
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  84. # [03:00] <biesi> correct, it does not
  85. # [03:05] <qheaden> I think Microsoft should also come out with a command line only version of the visual C++ compiler, like linux has gcc. Unless they do, and I don't know it.
  86. # [03:06] <qheaden> I hate that you have to install the whole graphical IDE just to get the compiler.
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  88. # [03:06] <qheaden> Mossop: Ping
  89. # [03:07] <Mossop> qheaden: pong
  90. # [03:08] <qheaden> Mossop: I wanted to help out on bug 335718. You made a comment on there saying that you had worked on some code for it.
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  92. # [03:08] <qheaden> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335781
  93. # [03:08] <Mossop> Yeah a log time ago, I have no idea where that patch went
  94. # [03:09] <qheaden> Mossop: Ha ha. No prob then.
  95. # [03:09] <Mossop> I did look for it recently but to no avail, which is strange, could have sworn I kept it around somewhere
  96. # [03:09] <qheaden> McBride is the new owner of the addons right?
  97. # [03:09] <Mossop> yep
  98. # [03:10] <qheaden> OK. I dropped him an email last night. So hopefully he will respond soon.
  99. # [03:10] <qheaden> I've been wanting the same functionality explained in this bug. :p
  100. # [03:11] <Mossop> As a rough idea, you have to have the search engine manager component call AddonManagerPrivate.registerProvider and supply it with an object that implements all the methods expected
  101. # [03:12] <qheaden> Ok.
  102. # [03:12] <qheaden> Where does the search engine manager component live?
  103. # [03:12] <Mossop> Here is some example code that I wrote a while ago to do that that may be a good resource. It is a little outdated but many of the methods are the same: http://www.oxymoronical.com/blog/2010/07/How-to-extend-the-new-Add-ons-Manager
  104. # [03:13] <qheaden> Mossop: Thanks
  105. # [03:13] <Mossop> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/search/nsSearchService.js
  106. # [03:13] <qheaden> Thanks again. :0
  107. # [03:13] <qheaden> :)
  108. # [03:15] <qheaden> I'll start looking into this bug.
  109. # [03:15] <Mossop> ooh hang on
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  111. # [03:17] <Mossop> qheaden: During the development of Firefox 4 when I wrote the initial search engine stuff we were working in a different mercurial repository. Looks like the changes I made are still in there so with a bit of digging you could probably put together a rough idea of what the changes were, see all the changesets here with my name on them; http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/addonsmgr/log/11169b0f10ab/tool
  112. # [03:17] <Mossop> kit/components/search/nsSearchService.js
  113. # [03:19] <qheaden> Wonderful! I'll take a look at this.
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  115. # [03:19] <Mossop> Maybe just comparing this version of that file with the current version in mozilla-central would tell you a lot: http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/addonsmgr/log/11169b0f10ab/toolkit/components/search/nsSearchService.jshttp://hg.mozilla.org/projects/addonsmgr/log/11169b0f10ab/toolkit/components/search/nsSearchService.js
  116. # [03:20] <qheaden> Yeah, it will guide me in the right direction.
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  118. # [03:21] <qheaden> So basically, this javascript code is what allows you to change search providers on the search box?
  119. # [03:21] <Mossop> Again, a little outdated so will be in need to tinkering with but should get you a long way
  120. # [03:22] <Mossop> That code and some other code somewhere that handles the actual UI element
  121. # [03:22] <qheaden> Ok
  122. # [03:22] <Mossop> gavin is the owner of the search engine stuff so you may also want to chat with him at some point once you've got a good idea of how you're doing it
  123. # [03:23] <qheaden> Sounds great.
  124. # [03:23] <squib> qheaden: some of the thunderbird search stuff might help too: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/base/content/webSearchTab.js
  125. # [03:24] <squib> it's definitely more recent than the firefox stuff, anyway
  126. # [03:24] <qheaden> squib: Cool. Thanks.
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  151. # [05:07] * philor changes topic to 'm-c: CLOSED m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: January 31 || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year Mozilla!'
  152. # [05:08] <khuey> heh, infra is broken on new years
  153. # [05:08] <khuey> bet the oncall appreciates that
  154. # [05:09] <philor> oh, pretty bustage, since the mirror is out of sync it just builds on Standard8's DONTBUILD :)
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  156. # [05:09] <philor> I thought they were disappearing, didn't notice they were sliding down the page until I got a purple down there
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  163. # [05:26] <philor> I'm not surprised 2011-12 wanted to get one last shot in, though, it's been that sort of a month
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  174. # [06:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d77b056ed4bd - Phil Ringnalda - No bug, remove trailing whitespace to trigger builds on a CLOSED TREE
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  182. # [06:56] * philor changes topic to 'm-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: January 31 || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year Mozilla!'
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  196. # [07:29] <philor> whoa, I won the lottery! TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS when according to the comment in the test, there's a 1/39,916,800 chance of that happening
  197. # [07:30] <Callek> philor: when it comes to TEST-UNEXPECTED-* you are our reigning champ already
  198. # [07:30] <Callek> no need for lotto to tell us that ;-P
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  217. # [09:26] -reed- Happy New Year, everyone! May 2012 be a happy, healthy, and prosperous year for all! Long live Mozilla.
  218. # [09:31] <tonymec> "reed is a *Bot* on Mozilla" Really? Well, happy new year anyway.
  219. # [09:31] <reed> tonymec: that's what they all tell me
  220. # [09:31] <tonymec> :-)
  221. # [09:32] <reed> I'm even in qbo for it multiple times. http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/search?query=reedbot
  222. # [09:32] <reed> :(
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  224. # [09:33] <reed> though, not as bad as gavinbot!
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  228. # [09:52] <ewong> reed: Happy New Year!
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  230. # [10:05] <reed> philor: do you still have to do new year bumps?
  231. # [10:05] <reed> or did you work yourself out of a job
  232. # [10:05] <philor> reed: the latter, unless 1.9.2 still has any, but if it does then looking dated is perfect for it :)
  233. # [10:06] <philor> pretty sure 1.9.1 had the last of them, though
  234. # [10:08] <philor> uh oh, bug 622234 says it didn't
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  275. # [11:47] <Callek> ummm... http://cb-seamonkey-linuxmaster-01.mozilla.org:8010/builders/Seamonkey%20comm-central-trunk%20linux%20l10n%20nightly
  276. # [11:47] <Callek> ick
  277. # [11:47] <Callek> all failed, building libmar
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  279. # [11:49] <Callek> /bin/sh: /builds/slave/comm-cen-trunk-lnx-l10n-ntly/build/comm-central-trunk/mozilla/dist/sdk/bin/nspr-config: No such file or directory
  280. # [11:52] <Callek> ooo that was "yesterdays" l10n nightly
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  282. # [11:52] <Callek> and I won't bother to find out what if anything is broken there
  283. # [11:52] <darktrojan> last year's nightly
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  291. # [12:19] <darktrojan> probably
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  295. # [12:30] <darktrojan> hmm, it seems I installed the sdk without the compilers
  296. # [12:31] <darktrojan> not that I (a) build on windows any more, or (b) don't have VS
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  298. # [12:32] <tonymec> NeilAway: You mean Visual Studio, Visual C++? Yeah, that should be included in the build instructions for Windows (if still true, and I can't test it on this Linux box).
  299. # [12:35] <darktrojan> it should be said as much as possible since installing VS is such a PITA
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  302. # [12:41] <jgilbert_> I found it easier than installing xcode, but I think they fixed that issue
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  325. # [14:10] * Ms2ger curses compilers
  326. # [14:12] <khuey> the compilers curse back
  327. # [14:12] <khuey> Nietzsche for programmers
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  329. # [14:23] <nigelb> gcc knows a few choice swearwords I think.
  330. # [14:28] <mauke> -malign-double
  331. # [14:33] <khuey> oh joy
  332. # [14:33] <khuey> mailing list reminder day
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  334. # [14:33] <nigelb> Yeah.
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  363. # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/33e3950b5ef5 - Blair McBride - Bug 713816 - Add additional logging when parsing compatibility overrides. r=dtownsend
  364. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d702c3cf4e4a - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
  365. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5fdc72d7ac91 - Blair McBride - Bug 713815 - Addons with compatibility overrides are still able to be installed. r=dtownsend
  366. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3cd031ae2711 - Thomas Prip Vestergaard - Bug 711540 - Align text in "Video statistics" to the left
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  372. # [17:27] <micadeyeye> Happy New Year
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  374. # [17:28] <micadeyeye> can anyone help me with the scp command?
  375. # [17:28] <micadeyeye> I am getting the error "scp: ambiguous target"
  376. # [17:28] <micadeyeye> scp -t root@192.168.1.101:/opt/loco-nanostation/openwrt-atheros-* root@192.168.1.100:/tmp
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  379. # [17:36] <pedro> guys, somewhat silly question: is tabcandy built using canvas or standard html elements?
  380. # [17:37] <ttaubert> pedro: both ;)
  381. # [17:37] <ttaubert> it uses a canvas for the thumbnails
  382. # [17:38] <pedro> all the logic of resizing, dragging, etc, is done in html?
  383. # [17:39] <ttaubert> yes
  384. # [17:39] <ttaubert> js/css/html
  385. # [17:39] <pedro> bloddy hell
  386. # [17:39] <ttaubert> it's a web page basically
  387. # [17:39] * pedro bows
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  389. # [17:40] <pedro> where in the souce is that? I looked but didn't find that specific bit, prolly cause I was looking for canvas stuff
  390. # [17:40] <pedro> me needs something like that do draw our dashboards
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  392. # [17:41] <pedro> if I can avoid canvas, the better!
  393. # [17:41] <ttaubert> browser/components/tabview/
  394. # [17:41] <pedro> drag.js and ui.js?
  395. # [17:42] <ttaubert> not sure what you need exactly but you can build a lot without using a canvas (css transitions, animations, transforms etc)
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  397. # [17:42] <pedro> cool. that's what I'll do then!
  398. # [17:42] <pedro> I can go without more stuff to learn ;)
  399. # [17:43] <ttaubert> :)
  400. # [17:43] <pedro> the inspector itself is also standard html, right?
  401. # [17:44] <ttaubert> mostly. it's a mix of xul + html
  402. # [17:45] <ttaubert> but xul is not that different
  403. # [17:45] <pedro> alright - thanks!
  404. # [17:46] <pedro> ttaubert: hum - you worked with tabcandy - do you know if somehwere there's a "standalone" web page that I could use as a starting point?
  405. # [17:47] <ttaubert> standalone? a starting point for what?
  406. # [17:47] <pedro> something like tabcandy.html that worked outside the chrome
  407. # [17:48] <pedro> (does this make sense?)
  408. # [17:48] <ttaubert> um, what do you want it for exactly?
  409. # [17:49] <ttaubert> to examine how it's built?
  410. # [17:50] <pedro> I want to start with tabcandy, take a look on how it works, use the classes I'll need for my project and start modifying it, understanding the way it works
  411. # [17:51] <ttaubert> oh ok, hm. tabcandy is pretty much tied to the outer browser, getting it to work standalone requires some work
  412. # [17:51] <ttaubert> you could look up the tabview source to see how it's done and start from scratch :)
  413. # [17:52] <pedro> that sounds l;ike a plan
  414. # [17:52] <pedro> thanks
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  474. # [19:43] <philor> mmm, what a pretty line of red
  475. # [19:43] <philor> I almost hate to interrupt it with a clobber
  476. # [19:46] <philor> hrm, but that was clobbered on Friday, and I was guessing the problem was the l10n thing, which is way older than that
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  490. # [20:12] <philor> yeah, well, it fails in R.java rather than Ur.java, so I haven't done anything about it other than retriggering and clobbering so far, figure it's SEP
  491. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> The "Summary is empty." annoys me more
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  493. # [20:14] <philor> to fix probably 80% of that, all you have to do is grok enough of buildbot to understand how to apply a log filter to a single buildstep
  494. # [20:14] <philor> then it's "the run is blue, so the summary is unlooked-at"
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  496. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> Sorry, I don't grok enough of buildbot to even understand that sentence :)
  497. # [20:17] <philor> yeah. and I know approximately what I mean, but the single simple little line of code will start with "lambda" at which point my brain shuts off
  498. # [20:17] <Ms2ger> :/
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  554. # [21:34] <philor> not that that would help you much, since you have one bug 660480 that needs the RETRY treatment, and two bug 681861 and one bug 689856 of the flavor that's probably really bug 681861, which can't currently get it
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