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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 16 00:00:00 2012
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  9. # [00:07] <nemo> bz_sleep: sometime in past few days, 1px thick border vanished on a collapses, fixed layout table
  10. # [00:07] <nemo> only at certain sizes though, like it is a rounding error issue
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  12. # [00:08] <nemo> nightly that is, stable and beta seem fine
  13. # [00:09] <mats> nemo: please file a bug in Layout/Tables with a testcase and CC me and bernd
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  20. # [00:17] <lurking> nemo: maybe this bug caused ? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618353
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  22. # [00:20] <nemo> lurking: this was noticed on a linux system
  23. # [00:20] <nemo> guess I'll try to pin down 'sactly what day it changed
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  25. # [00:21] <lurking> oh, ok..
  26. # [00:21] <RyanVM> tinderbox uses gcc 4.2 for linux64 builds, correct?
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  30. # [00:26] <nemo> rounding error of some kind I guess - looks like the table has 5 cells of width 15% and 2 of width 5% - that adds up to 85% so, not sure how browsers handle that
  31. # [00:26] <nemo> anyway, setting 6% fixes the missing borders vertically
  32. # [00:27] <nemo> on the other hand, now missing borders horizontally. hrm
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  34. # [00:27] <nemo> odd.
  35. # [00:27] <nemo> ehm. I'll just have to try builds I guess
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  63. # [01:23] <AndChat|> Is there a way to have a reftest change an about:config option before running?
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  65. # [01:25] <philor> eflores: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/README.txt#149
  66. # [01:27] <eflores> Ah
  67. # [01:28] <eflores> Oops, didn't see that linked off the wiki
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  69. # [01:28] <eflores> Cheers philor
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  72. # [01:42] <RyanVM> philor: what were your concerns with the sqlite upgrade?
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  74. # [01:45] <philor> RyanVM: near as I can remember, I was concerned by the way it made Windows PGO builds crash in every single test suite
  75. # [01:46] <RyanVM> I thought that was bholley bustage
  76. # [01:46] <RyanVM> it passed on try OK
  77. # [01:47] <RyanVM> ...though that wouldn't have been PGO
  78. # [01:47] <RyanVM> *sigh*
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  80. # [01:48] <philor> RyanVM: bholley's was crashing during the profiling phase of the PGO build, yours was crashing in tests, and yeah, you'd have to tell try you wanted PGO, because there's only two letters difference between try and trap
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  82. # [01:49] <RyanVM> hah
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  84. # [01:49] <RyanVM> at least my MSVC2010 PGO builds are fine with it
  85. # [01:49] <RyanVM> so I'll blame 2005
  86. # [01:50] <RyanVM> when are we upgrading compilers again?
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  88. # [01:50] <philor> whatever the longest you'd be willing to wait is, plus six months
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  91. # [01:51] <RyanVM> sure seems that way
  92. # [01:52] <mario> hi guys, can anybody help me out, to make mochitests running with xulrunner-sdk 9.0.1 + buildsystem? I've read: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_Mochitests_in_a_XULRunner_Application but anyhow the testharness part is not executed by the buildsystem.
  93. # [01:53] <mario> may be its easy, but i can't see something… :(
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  95. # [01:54] <mario> is there an extra command for building the harness?
  96. # [01:56] <Mossop> Have you tried adding --enable-tests to your build config, can't remember if that is necessary or not
  97. # [01:57] <Mossop> And once build you'd use something like make mochitest to run them
  98. # [01:59] <mario> thx Mossop, but i am a bit more closer to the point. The xpcshell-tests are running and i did the build config part also the make mochitest-1 part in the object dir, but then its throws an error that the _test/testing/mochitest/runtests.py is not found … :x
  99. # [01:59] <mario> :(
  100. # [02:00] <Mossop> I think that'd suggest you haven't done this part correctly: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_Mochitests_in_a_XULRunner_Application#Enable_test_support_to_top-level_build.mk_file
  101. # [02:01] <mario> mhhh
  102. # [02:01] <mario> my build.mk looks like this: https://gist.github.com/1618305
  103. # [02:02] <mario> what i am missing? :(
  104. # [02:03] <mario> oh
  105. # [02:03] <mario> :D
  106. # [02:04] <Mossop> Why did you put it in the else for LIBXUL_SDK?
  107. # [02:04] <mario> …. still check - looks like an path issue in the mochitest/Makefile.in
  108. # [02:06] <mario> no, sorry - no path issue :(
  109. # [02:06] <mario> ? is that wrong? just copied it from the mobile
  110. # [02:07] <mario> but no matter if i leave it out or put it seperately, same thing :(
  111. # [02:07] <tan> What is the command to force Firefox to crash in command line? Something like killall -13 firefox, I thought, but it doesn't kill it, nor force it to crash.
  112. # [02:07] <mario> i am not sure if this tier_testharness_dirs - thing
  113. # [02:07] <mario> really gets executed anyway
  114. # [02:09] <mario> it seems so that even the tests/mochitest/Makefile.in did not get executed…. (i've just put some error throwing dummy-statements there, nothing happends build-runs)
  115. # [02:09] <mario> :(
  116. # [02:09] <mario> the funny thing is that the xpcshell-tests are running
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  130. # [02:35] <mario> does anybody got the mochitest+xulrunner running?
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  139. # [02:57] <mario> no i've got another problem
  140. # [02:58] <mario> as i enabled the testharness tier
  141. # [02:58] <mario> the build fails with libxul_sdk -> libs -> libmozutil.a not found - any suggestions?
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  157. # [03:35] <cshields> anyone around right now consistently getting the "abort: unknown parent" hg bug right now?
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  160. # [03:41] <ewong> cshields: so far, no.. I am cloning from http:// it looks like it's running well
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  162. # [03:44] <cshields> bummer.. heh I need another fail case
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  164. # [03:45] <philor> hmm, fascinating: turning off cache compression busts tests? do we not actually create fresh profiles like we think we do?
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  166. # [03:46] <cshields> philor: hrm?
  167. # [03:46] <philor> cshields: off-topic for you, something I pushed to inbound which is causing test failures that it really really shouldn't cause
  168. # [03:47] <cshields> oh :) cause my problems are all about caching right now heh
  169. # [03:47] <cshields> and by tomorrow I'd like to be singing "I got 99 problems but a cache ain't one"
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  172. # [03:50] <biesi> cache compression? we do that?
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  174. # [03:51] <philor> we don't just do that, we apparently now *have* to do that, despite the fact that we can't do that
  175. # [03:53] <philor> bug 648429
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  180. # [03:56] <philor> maybe there's some explanation that doesn't involve "we don't actually run tests on a clean profile"?
  181. # [03:57] <ewong> cshields: on second thoughts.. just got that |abort: 00changelog.i@21c84409902e: unknown parent!"
  182. # [03:57] <cpearce> glandium: what do I have to build in order to link gkmedias.dll? I'm building layout/media, but gdmedias.dll isn't being rebuilt...
  183. # [03:57] <cshields> ewong: me too!
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  185. # [03:57] <cshields> and then it went away
  186. # [03:57] <ewong> hmm lemme try again
  187. # [03:58] <cshields> like, it failed twice on me and then started working (I'm trying and ctrl-c'ing rather quickly)
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  189. # [04:01] <ewong> hrm seems to be stuck..
  190. # [04:03] <biesi> philor, why can't we do that?
  191. # [04:03] <biesi> or would reading the bug explain that?
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  193. # [04:05] <philor> biesi: dependencies would - bug 715198 and whatever actually talks about why it's going to get turned off on mobile, which is where we apparently actually wanted the compression
  194. # [04:05] <biesi> ah
  195. # [04:05] <philor> 715198 and its acres of orange being why we now can't not and have to
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  198. # [04:22] <philor> cshields: did you do anything around 18:35 that means I shouldn't reopen bug 718251, despite it hitting again then?
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  200. # [04:23] <cshields> philor: hmm not sure
  201. # [04:25] <cshields> oddly enough, around 18:49 I see about 3 varnish child procs panic'd
  202. # [04:30] <philor> and again, 18:55
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  218. # [05:05] <@dbaron> What's up with smaug's tip cset on mozilla-central?
  219. # [05:05] <@dbaron> I just pulled, and it took a *long* time (and a lot of network), and I got:
  220. # [05:05] <@dbaron> added 1 changesets with 2 changes to 89803 files
  221. # [05:06] <darktrojan> eep
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  223. # [05:06] <darktrojan> those changes must've been spread pretty thin
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  225. # [05:08] <dolske> we changed to tab-indents on the whole tree. hope everyone likes it!
  226. # [05:08] <darktrojan> \o/
  227. # [05:10] <dolske> hg web doesn't seem to show anything odd about 047c8ba7d2e4...
  228. # [05:14] <philor> who put a quarter in Serge? and *why*?
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  234. # [05:30] <darktrojan> which version is becoming the ESR? is it 10?
  235. # [05:31] <Jesse> dbaron: i experienced the same when updating to smaug's rev, and i'm equally confused
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  238. # [05:32] <@dbaron> philor, eh?
  239. # [05:33] <glob> darktrojan, yes
  240. # [05:33] <glob> darktrojan, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal
  241. # [05:33] <Jesse> cshields: see dbaron's question
  242. # [05:33] <darktrojan> thanks glob
  243. # [05:33] <cshields> "philor, eh?"
  244. # [05:34] <philor> yeah, tell him who I'm bitching about!
  245. # [05:34] <cshields> heh
  246. # [05:34] <cshields> dbaron: is that happening consistently for you?
  247. # [05:34] <ewong> "put a quarter in Serge? and *why*?" not familiar with this phrase
  248. # [05:35] <@dbaron> cshields, just once, but Jesse said he saw the same thing
  249. # [05:35] <@dbaron> not sure why it's a question for cshields, though
  250. # [05:35] <philor> because everything hg does is his fault now
  251. # [05:35] <cshields> because hg is a bit of a mess right now with the varnish cache in front of it
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  253. # [05:36] <ewong> cshields: because of the hg update?
  254. # [05:36] <cshields> the new hg and the way it handles commands through http headers plays hell with varnish
  255. # [05:36] <ewong> ;/
  256. # [05:36] <cshields> (or, better put, varnish plays hell with it)
  257. # [05:36] <cshields> we're working on a way around varnish..
  258. # [05:37] <cshields> in the meantime, if that specifically is causing a problem I can clear the cache and see if it goes away
  259. # [05:37] <ewong> cshields: so updating the local client hg won't make a diff?
  260. # [05:38] <cshields> updating the local client will cause the problem if your local client was previously < 1.9
  261. # [05:38] <ewong> Oh.. ok.
  262. # [05:39] <ewong> so it's a downgrade local client hg then that 'solves' the problem?
  263. # [05:39] <cshields> in theory
  264. # [05:39] <cshields> or we get hg devs to fix the bug and then require clients to be 2.0.3
  265. # [05:39] <cshields> which is out of the question IMO
  266. # [05:39] <cshields> too many users and too obscure of an expectation
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  268. # [05:42] <ewong> I agree.. the people with mozbuild 'll need to update the mozbuild hg version
  269. # [05:42] <ewong> and iirc, khuey says releasing a new version of mozbuild is hell.
  270. # [05:42] <ewong> (but don't quote me on that :))
  271. # [05:44] <cshields> well, they haven't hit the problem you all are seeing with the unknown parent
  272. # [05:44] <cshields> I think in part because they are somewhere around 1.8
  273. # [05:45] <cshields> but they are seeing a couple of other issues related to varnish and the new version :|
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  275. # [05:51] <lduros> hello, currently Firefox will interpret the contents of <script> only if it does not have a type, or if the type is text/javascript and a few other, is that correct?
  276. # [05:51] <lduros> My question is, where in the source can I see what are the types that it accepts
  277. # [05:51] <lduros> what makes the parser determine which will be interpreted as javascript versus the rest
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  282. # [05:56] <Jesse> lduros: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsScriptLoader.cpp#437
  283. # [05:57] <lduros> Jesse: nice, thanks. So any other string in the type attribute will prevent the js from being interpreted, correct?
  284. # [05:58] <Jesse> it can be followed by a version number
  285. # [05:58] <Jesse> and i wouldn't be surprised if there were null byte bugs lurking
  286. # [05:58] <Jesse> why?
  287. # [05:59] <lduros> Jesse: I'm working an addon which blocks JavaScript, but so far I have completely removed the <script> tags, but if I were to enter a custom type (like blocked-js, whatever) to prevent it from being interpreted
  288. # [05:59] <lduros> Jesse: I just want to make sure it will block it, and that it is future-proof
  289. # [06:00] <jbuck> lduros: we use that property in Processing.js to have Processing code live in the same page as HTML. it works cross-browser, and while nothing is guaranteed, is probably very future-proof
  290. # [06:01] <lduros> Jesse jbuck: maybe a better solution for me (and less prone to confusion for my user which might look at the source code and wonder why there is still js) would be to replace <script> with another tag that would be valid but prevent the execution of the js
  291. # [06:01] <Jesse> lduros: how are you changing the page?
  292. # [06:01] <jbuck> just changing the types on the script works pretty well. assuming that your add-on executes before the rest of the page
  293. # [06:01] <Jesse> replacing <script> with another tag is more dangerous, since <script> has special parsing rules
  294. # [06:02] <lduros> Jesse: yes, the script intercepts responses using nsITracingListener
  295. # [06:03] <lduros> the issue I have is that I need to retrieve the js later, for the user's info panel
  296. # [06:03] <lduros> so keeping it in the dom would be best
  297. # [06:03] <lduros> instead of storing the js in an array, which is what i do now
  298. # [06:03] <lduros> jbuck: ok, sounds good
  299. # [06:04] <jbuck> yeah, I'd go with changing the type on the script tag, with those constraints
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  301. # [06:04] <lduros> jbuck: OK :-)
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  304. # [06:06] <lduros> oh since i've your attention also, I've noticed that when I get the response html from amazon, I see some vb code it seems, but then on the actual page I never see it
  305. # [06:06] <lduros> does this get stripped by firefox?
  306. # [06:06] <lduros> when it gets parsed?
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  311. # [06:09] <lduros> maybe I just dreamt
  312. # [06:09] <lduros> can't find it now
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  325. # [06:28] <roc> I can't get tryserver symbols to be loaded from http://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-symbols/ ... has anyone here ever got that working?
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  372. # [08:23] <philor> wow, and I thought Android tests were annoying before
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  395. # [08:44] <hsivonen> I get "abort: stream ended unexpectedly (got 567695 bytes, expected 775753)" when trying to hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/ . Why?
  396. # [08:44] <hsivonen> doh.
  397. # [08:44] * hsivonen sees topic
  398. # [08:47] <Mano> hsivonen: just landed my part on inbound
  399. # [08:48] <Mano> did you have a chance to test again?
  400. # [08:48] <ewong> hsivonen: actually, that's not exactly the problem.. could be part of the problem.. fwiw bug #718186
  401. # [08:49] <darktrojan> answered the question though, didn't it? ;-)
  402. # [08:50] <ewong> oh well, yeah. heh :)
  403. # [08:50] <Mano> hsivonen: there's a bundle, fwiw
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  405. # [08:50] <hsivonen> Mano: I haven't had a chance to test again yet
  406. # [08:50] <Mano> hsivonen: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/mozilla-1-9-2.hg
  407. # [08:50] <hsivonen> Mano: thanks
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  418. # [09:12] <glazou> bonjour
  419. # [09:12] <khuey> guten tag
  420. # [09:12] <Callek> glandium: thats mostly my point
  421. # [09:12] <Callek> glandium: I don't see a real reason to do |make fast-package| by default, and cut corners
  422. # [09:13] <Callek> when its normally not what you want, but if you *know* you want it, then you can execute it manually
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  424. # [09:13] <glandium> Callek: you were saying make fast-package could be used on clobber builds. I'm saying it's not going to be faster
  425. # [09:13] <Callek> glandium: especially if the whole speedup is about not dealing with copied files
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  427. # [09:14] <glandium> in my experience, copying file is not what takes most time
  428. # [09:14] <Callek> glandium: I'm saying if thats /all/ the magic, its not worth it
  429. # [09:14] <glandium> xpt.py and jsshell.zip are
  430. # [09:14] <Callek> glandium: sure
  431. # [09:14] <Callek> glandium: I don't see why we need/should be doing jsshell without an explicit configure/package variable/env-variable, etc.
  432. # [09:15] <Callek> glandium: imo, a MOZ_PACKAGE_JSSHELL=1 in mozconfigs should be what we're using
  433. # [09:15] <glandium> yeah, agreed
  434. # [09:15] <glandium> and these jsshell packages are not even tested, i wouldn't be surprised they don't work on e.g. android
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  436. # [09:18] <hsivonen> does blocking1.9.2: .26+ imply approval or do I need to now request approval separately?
  437. # [09:21] <khuey> separately
  438. # [09:21] <khuey> iirc
  439. # [09:21] <khuey> it's been a while
  440. # [09:22] <hsivonen> khuey: ok. thanks
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  444. # [09:26] <nthomas> yes
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  450. # [09:33] <glandium> khuey: when is your work week in paris?
  451. # [09:33] <khuey> next wekk
  452. # [09:33] <khuey> *week
  453. # [09:33] <khuey> even
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  455. # [09:36] <ewong> khuey: traded to Paris?
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  457. # [09:38] <khuey> ewong: for a bit
  458. # [09:39] <ewong> khuey: how long? bienvenu a Paris (??)
  459. # [09:39] <khuey> I'm in paris next week
  460. # [09:39] <khuey> been in germany since tuesday
  461. # [09:40] <ewong> didn't know Moco had a Paris office
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  463. # [09:40] <khuey> and am here this week too
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  465. # [09:41] <ewong> picked up any French?
  466. # [09:42] <darktrojan> in germany?
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  468. # [09:42] <ewong> no, in Paris
  469. # [09:42] <ewong> Oh Next week...
  470. # [09:43] <ewong> sorry..
  471. # [09:43] <glob> can i get a sanity check please: using a recent nightly on osx, enter no longer works in the web console
  472. # [09:44] <khuey> does "bonjour" count?
  473. # [09:44] <darktrojan> non
  474. # [09:44] <khuey> then no
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  477. # [09:45] <ewong> sure.. bonjour counts.. well if it wasn't for the fact that glazou keeps on saying it.. :)
  478. # [09:45] <glazou> there's a story behind that
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  480. # [09:46] <ewong> glazou ahh just the person.. but I need to find that bug first..
  481. # [09:46] <glazou> long, very long ago, pavlov (stuart parmenter) was greeting me here on IRC every day with a bunch of funny french-bashing
  482. # [09:46] <glazou> so I started saying bonjour every day :-)
  483. # [09:46] <khuey> sounds like stuart
  484. # [09:47] <glazou> but it was really funny and it was only meant to be funny, no real bashing of course
  485. # [09:47] <ewong> glazou does bug #57805 sound like something you can mentor?
  486. # [09:47] <glazou> was at the time of the worst bushisms against french
  487. # [09:47] <glazou> looking
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  490. # [09:48] <glazou> wow an <100k
  491. # [09:48] <glazou> ewong: yeah, I tried
  492. # [09:48] <ewong> yeah.. Mardeg said you'd probably be a good mentor for it as youv'e touched on code like it..
  493. # [09:48] <glazou> I even transformed my code for ff
  494. # [09:48] <glazou> but some shortcuts in ff are really weird
  495. # [09:49] <glazou> so
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  497. # [09:49] <glazou> a. I think it should remain an add-on
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  499. # [09:49] <ewong> glazou ok.. just wondering.
  500. # [09:49] <glazou> b. even as an add-on, it will require minor changes in FF code
  501. # [09:50] <glazou> ewong: have you tried bluegriffon's feature ?
  502. # [09:50] <glob> for those playing at home, i hit bug 717972
  503. # [09:50] <ewong> glazou nope.. not yet.
  504. # [09:51] <glazou> ewong: v1.4 should be released tomorrow
  505. # [09:51] <glazou> my RC1 seems ok
  506. # [09:51] <ewong> glazou: nice!
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  508. # [09:52] <glazou> ewong: yeah, major improvements and BlueGriffon starts being big
  509. # [09:53] * glazou cannot believe he says earlier today he found a feature in MS Word impressive
  510. # [09:53] <glazou> said even
  511. # [09:53] <glazou> hmmmm, I do have a JS problem ; apparently it's hard to get the rects for the current selection from JS since frames are not reachable from script ; is there any API I could use here?
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  513. # [09:54] <glazou> something equivalent to boxobject
  514. # [09:56] <darktrojan> can't you call getBoundingClientRect or something on it?
  515. # [09:56] <darktrojan> or on the ranges?
  516. # [09:56] <glazou> oooh
  517. # [09:56] <glazou> right
  518. # [09:56] <glazou> that works with a DOMRange
  519. # [09:56] <glazou> very nice, thanks darktrojan
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  522. # [09:57] <darktrojan> no problem, I knew something like that worked
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  561. # [10:43] <NeilAway> ewong: iirc it's bienvenue à Paris; bienvenu can be found in #maildev during US hours ;-)
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  563. # [10:44] <ewong> NeilAway: close enough.. :)
  564. # [10:44] <ewong> got confused there
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  566. # [10:45] <NeilAway> ewong: although presumably should he ever visit, Bienvenu à Paris might be the correct thing to say ;-)
  567. # [10:45] <ewong> NeilAway: true!
  568. # [10:46] <ewong> or umm they say.. "Vraiement"?
  569. # [10:46] <ewong> or was that Vraie?
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  573. # [10:49] <glazou> "vraiment"
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  575. # [10:50] <glazou> you say "bienvenue à Paris" for a male or a female; but you say "tu es bienvenu à Paris" for a male
  576. # [10:50] <glazou> in first sentence, "bienvenue" is noun, in second "bienvenu" is an adjective
  577. # [10:51] <glazou> "bienvenue à Paris" is a short form of "je te souhaite la bienvenue à Paris"
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  583. # [10:55] <ewong> glazou: thanks! been a long time since I've touched French.. surprised I remember this much.
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  615. # [11:34] <arovij> Hi.. what env variable do I have to set to view logs from "modules/libpr0n/src" ... setenv("NSPR_LOG_MODULES", "all:5", 1); is logging everything but above. Thanks.
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  617. # [11:36] <arovij> To be specific am talking about modules/libpr0n/src/imgLoader.cpp
  618. # [11:36] <mak> NeilAway: ping
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  628. # [11:49] <mounir> glandium: you around?
  629. # [11:49] <glandium> mounir: maybe ;)
  630. # [11:49] <mounir> glandium: we have to talk about that ominijar
  631. # [11:49] <mounir> :)
  632. # [11:50] <glandium> mounir: seriously, it's not what takes the most time
  633. # [11:50] <mounir> the fact that we are using -m to zip removes browser.xpt
  634. # [11:50] <mounir> regenerating that takes a lot of time
  635. # [11:50] <glandium> and *that* is the real problem
  636. # [11:50] <glandium> not that we are using -m
  637. # [11:50] <mounir> we don't need to delete that file
  638. # [11:51] <mounir> we could just re-create it when required
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  641. # [11:51] <glandium> mounir: we could make its generation fast enough that it doesn't matter.
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  643. # [11:51] <glandium> and there's no reason it should be impossible
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  648. # [11:54] <NeilAway> mak: pong
  649. # [11:55] <mak> NeilAway: hi. string question, is this nsDependentCString usage always safe? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/extensions/cookie/nsPermissionManager.cpp#431
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  651. # [11:56] <NeilAway> mak: no, it will crash if you pass null
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  653. # [11:56] <NeilAway> well, depends on the CRT
  654. # [11:57] <mak> NeilAway: hm, I have a stack that begins from js, goes through that, and finally crashes in je_free
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  656. # [11:57] <NeilAway> mak: wait, there's an NS_ENSURE_ARG_POINTER(aType)
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  661. # [11:58] <NeilAway> mak: well, that shouldn't be allocating or freeing anything itself
  662. # [11:59] <mak> NeilAway: right, the free call comes from sqlite after it has bound the string to a statement... at this point is likely just a msvc bug. I was looking if I could find something dangerous along the stack
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  665. # [12:04] <mounir> glandium: so why not removing the files we have to remove manually so we keep some files that can be kept?
  666. # [12:04] <glandium> mounir: why not fix xpt.py?
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  668. # [12:04] <mounir> glandium: you mean making generation faster?
  669. # [12:04] <mounir> that's way more complex and will still take some time
  670. # [12:05] <glandium> mounir: it would make much more than make package faster, too
  671. # [12:05] <glandium> and i doubt that it would take more than 1s
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  673. # [12:06] <mounir> will look at the bug...
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  676. # [12:06] * darktrojan wonders why there's suddenly interest in making make package faster
  677. # [12:07] <mounir> glandium: sorry, I can't find the bug number, did you paste it?
  678. # [12:07] <mounir> (to make xpt.py faster)
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  680. # [12:08] <glandium> darktrojan: because you need it a lot when working on android
  681. # [12:08] <glandium> mounir: i pasted it in your bug
  682. # [12:08] <darktrojan> oic
  683. # [12:08] <glandium> mounir: 654448
  684. # [12:09] <mounir> glandium: but unless this really takes 1 sec, not regenerating if not needed seems to be a win
  685. # [12:09] <glandium> mounir: you can already start by adding a ifdef MOZ_PACKAGE_JSSHELL for jsshell.zip
  686. # [12:09] <mounir> for example, just copying the files at the beginning of the package process takes some time
  687. # [12:09] <mounir> not a lot but not doing it is saving a few seconds
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  689. # [12:12] <mounir> glandium: ideally, I think calling twice make package in a row should be a no-op
  690. # [12:12] <glandium> mounir: well, that could be done with stamp files, but who cares, really?
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  692. # [12:13] <mounir> glandium: if we are able to do that, we can assume that changing one cpp file will not make packaging to take ages
  693. # [12:13] <glandium> the other problem with not removing files is that there could be side-effects for people that use dist/$APP as the untarballed package (which i sometimes do)
  694. # [12:14] <glandium> mounir: changing one cpp file is *meant* to make packaging to take ages. or at least to happen fully
  695. # [12:14] <mounir> glandium: a lot of steps shouldn't happen again
  696. # [12:15] <mounir> like generating xpt files or copying some other files
  697. # [12:15] <glandium> mounir: well, the whole process is pretty stupid, using one make rule when we could use make dependencies
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  699. # [12:16] <mounir> I agree
  700. # [12:16] <mounir> but I'm not going to mess with that :)
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  702. # [12:16] <glandium> like, package: $(foreach file,$(FILES_IN_TARBALL),$(dist)/$(APPNAME)/$(file))
  703. # [12:16] <glandium> and then $(dist)/$(APPNAME)/$(file): $(dist)/bin/$(file)
  704. # [12:17] <mounir> but if we are removing all the files, that's quite going to be the same
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  706. # [12:18] <glandium> mounir: there could be a rule to remove files that are in $(DIST)/$(APPNAME) and that aren't in $(FILES_IN_TARBALL)
  707. # [12:18] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/93d7303c1684 - Olli Pettay - Bug 718340 - Don't traverse black windows, r=mccr8,jst
  708. # [12:19] <mounir> glandium: basically, you are against all patches that have been made for 'fast-package', am I right?
  709. # [12:20] <glandium> mounir: i haven't seen these patches
  710. # [12:20] <glandium> the only one i saw sets a variable, i saw nothing that used it
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  712. # [12:21] <glandium> mounir: anyways, the main problem with make package is that as it grows, it's getting more and more shitty because it's cludge over cludge over cludge. Adding more cludge is only going to temporarily help
  713. # [12:22] <mounir> glandium: bug 707578, bug 707579 and bug 707580
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  717. # [12:27] <glandium> mounir: 707578 does not hurt, but i doubt it makes a significant difference. 707579 is essentially replacing make dependencies, so it doesn't really hurt, but doesn't regenerate if xpt.py itself is modified. 707580 is ... mmmm
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  719. # [12:28] <khuey> !seen njn
  720. # [12:29] <firewolfbot> njn was last seen 3 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'darktrojan: it seems to be the onclick handler' in #developers.
  721. # [12:29] <@smaug> hsivonen: still about Bug 715112. What do other browsers do with DOMContentLoaded?
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  723. # [12:33] <glandium> mounir: note we have the same problem with headers, idls, etc. during a build
  724. # [12:34] * mounir shouldn't try to do anything else with the build system
  725. # [12:34] <Unfocused> anyone know if/when we changed the behavour of html <select> element's options property? apparently select.options[index] = "something"; used to add an option
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  729. # [12:35] <mounir> Unfocused: oh when did that change?
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  731. # [12:36] <mounir> might be related to nodelist bindings change?
  732. # [12:37] <Unfocused> i got asked about it (semi-random email), apparently it used to work before Fx10, doesn't now
  733. # [12:37] * Unfocused shrugs
  734. # [12:37] <mounir> oh, proxy-based nodelist implementation came with ff10
  735. # [12:38] <Unfocused> interesting
  736. # [12:38] <Unfocused> ok
  737. # [12:38] <Unfocused> do you remember the bug#?
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  739. # [12:39] <mounir> Unfocused: bug 648801
  740. # [12:39] <mounir> though, I can't reproduce the described behavior with ff9
  741. # [12:39] <Unfocused> from a brief skim of the html5 spec, it doesn't look like the spec supports that behaviour anyway
  742. # [12:40] <mounir> yes, i'm really surprised it was working
  743. # [12:40] * khuey grumbles about shitty legacy code
  744. # [12:40] <mounir> khuey: you are trying to get grumpy to be like French people in Paris? :)
  745. # [12:40] <Unfocused> yea, i don't know exactly what version this guy had been using it in before seeing it doesn't work in fx10
  746. # [12:41] <mounir> Unfocused: are you sure he said he was doing s.options[idx] = "foo";
  747. # [12:41] <Unfocused> quoting: "The problem I had was that it is no longer possible to add options to a select element in Javascript by setting .options[index], as it used to be. Calling the .add() method works. I don't know if this is an intentional or publicised change - it may be. "
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  749. # [12:42] <khuey> mounir: too late
  750. # [12:42] <khuey> already there
  751. # [12:42] <heycam> Unfocused, the spec does require a setter
  752. # [12:42] <heycam> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-dom-interfaces.html#htmloptionscollection-0
  753. # [12:43] <mounir> khuey: don't want to come at the office?
  754. # [12:43] <Unfocused> oh, huh... i didn't scroll down that far when i skimmed :)
  755. # [12:44] <Unfocused> thanks
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  757. # [12:44] <khuey> mounir: it's a bit of a journey to the office from here
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  759. # [12:46] <mounir> khuey: where are you?
  760. # [12:47] <khuey> germany
  761. # [12:47] <mounir> glandium: btw, you said I could ifdef jsshell.zip with MOZ_PACKAGE_JSSHELL but I don't see MOZ_PACKAGES_JSSHELL in our code
  762. # [12:47] <mounir> khuey: you said you were in Paris...
  763. # [12:47] <khuey> mounir: I did?
  764. # [12:47] <mounir> khuey: [12:35] < khuey> mounir: too late
  765. # [12:47] <mounir> [12:35] < khuey> already there
  766. # [12:47] <khuey> oh
  767. # [12:48] <khuey> lol
  768. # [12:48] <khuey> I meant to being grumpy
  769. # [12:48] <mounir> oh, ok
  770. # [12:48] <glandium> mounir: the point is to add it to mozconfigs
  771. # [12:48] <khuey> not getting to paris until sunday night
  772. # [12:48] <mounir> khuey: will you stay after the work week?
  773. # [12:48] <khuey> no
  774. # [12:48] <mounir> glandium: ok
  775. # [12:48] <mounir> khuey: yeah, you prefer germans...
  776. # [12:49] <glandium> khuey: do you go to fosdem or go back to the us?
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  778. # [12:49] <khuey> glandium: I'm going back to the US
  779. # [12:50] <khuey> I will have been in europe for three weeks at that point
  780. # [12:50] <khuey> and I need to move to SF too
  781. # [12:51] <mounir> khuey: still want to stay in the US after being in Europe for three weeks? :o
  782. # [12:51] <Unfocused> and in SF, even
  783. # [12:52] <Unfocused> heycam: so, i don't suppose you know of an existing bug for that, do you? :)
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  785. # [12:52] <Unfocused> heycam: n/m, found it
  786. # [12:52] <Unfocused> bug 715156
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  788. # [12:52] <khuey> mounir: well, as nice as it is here, being somewhere I can speak the language and legally work is nice too
  789. # [12:53] <mounir> khuey: man, if mrbkap can speak french, you can :)
  790. # [12:53] <@smaug> mounir: we have still time to convert khuey to an European
  791. # [12:53] <Unfocused> just fake it. i'm pretty sure more french do
  792. # [12:53] <Unfocused> er, most*
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  794. # [12:57] <mrbkap> smaug: what language do they speak in Europe? :)
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  796. # [12:58] <Unfocused> european, OBVIOUSLY
  797. # [12:58] <darktrojan> most of them speak better english than the americans do
  798. # [12:58] <mrbkap> My dad once saw a wanted ad for "people who speak Belgian".
  799. # [12:59] <mauke> it's called "Belch"
  800. # [13:00] <khuey> darktrojan: that's really not true
  801. # [13:00] <@smaug> btw, does anyone know when the London office will open
  802. # [13:01] <darktrojan> khuey, I might be joking :P
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  804. # [13:02] <mrbkap> khuey: I'm pretty sure I met a Danish girl who spoke English better than me, fwiw.
  805. # [13:02] <mrbkap> So it isn't entirely false.
  806. # [13:02] <khuey> there are plenty of people over here who speak english well
  807. # [13:02] <khuey> but "most" is far from true
  808. # [13:03] <khuey> smaug: this quarter, i believe
  809. # [13:03] * mrbkap shrugs.
  810. # [13:05] <khuey> I will grant that just about everyone here speaks english better than I speak french or german though ;-)
  811. # [13:05] * @smaug could spend some time in London
  812. # [13:05] <mounir> smaug: and not in Paris? :o
  813. # [13:06] <@smaug> mounir: sorry. I can speak at least a tiny bit English
  814. # [13:06] <@smaug> and I happen to like London
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  816. # [13:06] <mounir> smaug: fwiw, French don't usually speak Finnish :)
  817. # [13:06] <mounir> actually, no one except some Finnish people
  818. # [13:07] <khuey> heh
  819. # [13:08] <@smaug> but really, I could spend time in London to finally improve my English
  820. # [13:08] <khuey> yeah but then you'll spell everything with extra 'u's
  821. # [13:08] <Unfocused> ie, the proper way
  822. # [13:08] <darktrojan> so correctly then
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  825. # [13:09] * darktrojan has eliminated all mentions of nsIPrefBranch2 from toolkit/
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  827. # [13:10] <Unfocused> \o/
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  829. # [13:10] <Unfocused> oh hell... just realised i can actually review such a patch like that now
  830. # [13:10] <darktrojan> ... assuming formalities like tryserver passing and review
  831. # [13:11] * darktrojan sets r? to Unfocused
  832. # [13:11] * Unfocused should have kept quiet
  833. # [13:11] <darktrojan> heh
  834. # [13:11] <darktrojan> it's only 27 files
  835. # [13:12] <darktrojan> should be easy :)
  836. # [13:12] * khuey wonders if Unfocused wants to review some tabbrowser changes too
  837. # [13:12] <Unfocused> that's not toolkit!
  838. # [13:13] <Archaeopteryx> darktrojan: you want to update https://developer.mozilla.org/en/NsIPrefBranch2 - i don't see a 'deprecated'
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  841. # [13:13] <darktrojan> that's because it hasn't happened yet Archaeopteryx
  842. # [13:14] <Unfocused> been on the firefox frontend team for 3 years... but i touch /browser/ so rarely that i'm not a peer there
  843. # [13:15] <darktrojan> heh
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  846. # [13:17] <darktrojan> damn, missed two occurances of nsIPrefBranchInternal
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  849. # [13:20] <darktrojan> um, inbound is looking pretty
  850. # [13:21] <darktrojan> ... red
  851. # [13:21] <Unfocused> it's the new black
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  853. # [13:22] <@smaug> um, Android is very red
  854. # [13:22] <@smaug> ttaubert: did your push cause that?
  855. # [13:23] * darktrojan deals with the orange
  856. # [13:24] <matt488> hallo
  857. # [13:24] <ttaubert> smaug: not sure, don't think so - there are no useful error messages
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  859. # [13:25] <ttaubert> and there's no mobile related code in my push, afaik
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  862. # [13:27] <darktrojan> there was an hg problem for mobile earlier
  863. # [13:27] * darktrojan scrolls up a bit
  864. # [13:28] <Unfocused> bug 718251 ?
  865. # [13:28] <darktrojan> could be, it's just off the top of my scrollback
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  868. # [13:29] <darktrojan> yeah
  869. # [13:29] <darktrojan> I'll star 'em
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  871. # [13:30] <darktrojan> boom! and the tree is green!
  872. # [13:30] <Unfocused> m-c too
  873. # [13:32] <@smaug> hsivonen's patches are tricky to review.
  874. # [13:33] <darktrojan> can we have a 'closed for anything that might break mobile' status?
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  876. # [13:33] <khuey> so, who wants to review 669845?
  877. # [13:33] * khuey is accepting suggestions for victims
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  881. # [13:37] <@smaug> khuey: I would review it, but it is somewhere in toolkit land
  882. # [13:37] <khuey> yeah
  883. # [13:37] <khuey> and browser/
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  885. # [13:37] <darktrojan> firewolfbot, bug 669845
  886. # [13:38] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669845 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The quick find bar causes a zombie compartment that lives until the next search (only on pages with
  887. # [13:38] <darktrojan> oh, I knew I recognised it
  888. # [13:38] <khuey> you filed it, no?
  889. # [13:39] <darktrojan> yes
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  892. # [13:44] <darktrojan> ok that's enough stars for now
  893. # [13:45] * darktrojan goes back to his own busted push
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  895. # [13:45] <Unfocused> khuey: punt it to gavin, assuming you don't mind waiting
  896. # [13:46] <stefanh> dao: want a new patch?
  897. # [13:46] <Unfocused> khuey: oh, or mano
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  901. # [13:49] <jfkthame> edmorley: looking at yesterday's inbound->central merge.... looks like you didn't resolve any of the bugs involved?
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  916. # [14:05] <darktrojan> ok, this is what annoys me about tryserver: I've figured out what I did wrong, changed one .js file, and now it has to make the whole thing all over again
  917. # [14:06] <darktrojan> we need a tryserver-for-not-compiled-stuff or something
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  919. # [14:08] <darktrojan> rant over, goodnight
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  924. # [14:21] <edmorley> jfkthame: yeah have the tab open to do today, got caught up exploring the maze that is AWS :-)
  925. # [14:21] <jfkthame> edmorley: i've just been through and marked them all (i think - wouldn't hurt to check)
  926. # [14:21] <edmorley> jfkthame: ah thank you!
  927. # [14:21] <edmorley> sorry didn't mean for you to have to do them
  928. # [14:22] <jfkthame> it's ok - you do far more than your share of this stuff afaict!
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  937. # [14:27] <MarcoZ> dao: Hi! If you have a good suggestion how we can perform these tests in a safe manner it would be appreciated! I remember we chose this particular test harness for the reason that it allowed us easiest access to the nsIAccessible* interfaces (which require extended privileges). No normal JavaScript web app has normally access to these interfaces.
  938. # [14:27] <khuey> ugh
  939. # [14:27] <khuey> what happened to hgweb's blame view?
  940. # [14:28] <KaiRo> hmm, good, seems to have been temporary, touch works now
  941. # [14:28] * lurking thinks your just not holding it right :P
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  943. # [14:29] <KaiRo> lurking: hah, I turned it a couple time to get it to accept what I wanted to do earlier ;-)
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  946. # [14:32] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9259ed351205 - Olli Pettay - Bug 718330 - Add URI of owning document to nsGenericElement::Traverse logging, r=mccr8
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  972. # [15:00] <Yoric> !seen dherman
  973. # [15:00] <firewolfbot> dherman was last seen 3 days, 18 hours, 13 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying 'np' in #jsapi.
  974. # [15:01] <ewong> with regards to the new MPL boilerplate, there's no longer any of the contributor attributions, right?
  975. # [15:02] <glob> ewong, correct
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  978. # [15:03] <ewong> glob ok. just wanted to make sure I'm doing this right..
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  980. # [15:03] <khuey> Yoric: it's a holiday in the us today
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  983. # [15:05] <Yoric> khuey: ah, forgot about that.
  984. # [15:05] <Yoric> Thanks.
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  987. # [15:05] <glob> khuey, i get an early night!
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  992. # [15:09] <mounir> ewong: mpl2 boilerplate didn't land yet, right?
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  994. # [15:10] <glandium> mounir: new code can land with the new boilerplate
  995. # [15:10] <glandium> that is, new files
  996. # [15:10] <ewong> mounir: I don't know.. but looking at mxr, there are already a few files using the new boilerplate
  997. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> Yeah, new files should use the new boilerplate
  998. # [15:15] * NeilAway wonders whether there's an easy way to ++ both Unfocused and darktrojan simultaneously
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  1000. # [15:17] <NeilAway> on un unrelated note, what happened to nsIPrefBranch2?
  1001. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> darktrojan is removing it
  1002. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, yt?
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  1004. # [15:18] <Yoric> Er...
  1005. # [15:19] <Yoric> I have a failure in '$ hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central'
  1006. # [15:19] <glandium> great, latest mobile nightly starts afresh wrt history and bookmarks
  1007. # [15:19] <glandium> Yoric: see topic
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  1009. # [15:20] <Yoric> Thanks.
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  1012. # [15:22] * NeilAway thinks khuey's patch has a bug
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  1019. # [15:25] <khuey> NeilAway: probably
  1020. # [15:25] <khuey> which patch?
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  1026. # [15:28] <NeilAway> khuey: SetDocShell now creates a new mFind, but currently it's Init that sets the options on the mFind
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  1029. # [15:29] * NeilAway wonders what happens if you use one of the other forms of finding
  1030. # [15:30] <khuey> NeilAway: ah, yes, that's true
  1031. # [15:30] <Gijs> So I'm being bugspammed by bug 517482 much more than in the past. Is anyone aware of changes to the test boxen, or people logging into the machines and such as of the 10th/11th of January?
  1032. # [15:30] <Gijs> If not, maybe something broke wrt that code and the orange isn't quite so completely random anymore. :\
  1033. # [15:30] * khuey wonders if he should just add a Reset function to nsIFind
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  1036. # [15:31] <Gijs> (to quantify 'much more' - the bug is from september 2009, and about 60 of the 140 auto-filed comments are from the past week)
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  1038. # [15:31] <Gijs> Obviously I can just un-CC myself, but I figured that maybe there's a real problem. :)
  1039. # [15:32] <NeilAway> khuey: nsFind should just reset itself when the document is destroyed :-P
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  1042. # [15:32] <NeilAway> khuey: or use weak references perhaps?
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  1044. # [15:33] <khuey> NeilAway: it can't use weak references, it holds on to nodes
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  1046. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Gijs, yeah, you're right, it's a new regression... I think philor|away mentioned it
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  1051. # [15:38] <Gijs> Ms2ger: Got a bug #?
  1052. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> 517482 ;)
  1053. # [15:38] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1b89605ede03 - Rail Aliiev - bug 715586: checksums.py should generate sha1 and md5 checksums. r=catlee,ted
  1054. # [15:38] <NeilAway> khuey: well, you'd probably be better off asking a DOM peer for suggestions as to how nsFind should keep track of its state sanely, I'm not sure browser.xml is the right place to fix an issue in nsFind
  1055. # [15:39] <Gijs> ... that's a randomorange bug with only me in the CC list.
  1056. # [15:39] <Gijs> I mean a real bug which tracks the regression
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  1097. # [16:14] <ejpbruel> struggling with make on fennec here
  1098. # [16:15] <mounir> glandium, khuey: that push should generate a pgo build, right? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3c5ff50541bc
  1099. # [16:15] <ejpbruel> tried autoconf && configure && make but that fails on configure
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  1101. # [16:15] <ejpbruel> make -f client.mk fails because i previously did autoconf && configure
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  1103. # [16:15] <ejpbruel> and make distclean (which it tells me to do) does not work becuase it cant find the configure files
  1104. # [16:16] <glandium> mounir: a pgo build without a profile, yes
  1105. # [16:16] <mounir> glandium: without a profile?
  1106. # [16:16] <khuey> mounir: yeah you weren't supposed to remove the profile line
  1107. # [16:16] <mounir> oh, oups
  1108. # [16:16] <mounir> is that going to be bad for the link size check?
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  1111. # [16:17] <khuey> yes
  1112. # [16:17] <mounir> cool then
  1113. # [16:17] <ejpbruel> khuey: you do realize that today is a holiday in the states, right? ;)
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  1115. # [16:18] <mounir> he is in Germany...
  1116. # [16:18] <Ms2ger> He's on the non-lazy side :)
  1117. # [16:18] <nigelb> lol
  1118. # [16:18] <ejpbruel> oh, i didnt know
  1119. # [16:19] <ejpbruel> khuey: welcome to Europe! ;)
  1120. # [16:19] <Gijs> Ah right, today is MLK day. I forgot.
  1121. # [16:19] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: do you know if distclean actually works?
  1122. # [16:19] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: I keep getting stuck with make on mozilla-central
  1123. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> I never do that
  1124. # [16:20] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: usually because make -f client.mk refuses to work until i do a distclean, and distclean doesnt work
  1125. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> Just rm -rf
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  1127. # [16:20] <Gijs> khuey: hey, I noticed your name in some of the idleservice bugs. I don't suppose you have any clue about the possible regression with it that I just pointed out?
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  1129. # [16:21] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: seriously? i shouldnt have to do a clean clone because i accidentally ran ./configure
  1130. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, not the clone, the objdir
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  1132. # [16:21] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: right. problem is i ran ./configure without an obj dir (my bad)
  1133. # [16:21] <khuey> ejpbruel: timeshifting the holiday to tomorrow ;-)
  1134. # [16:22] <khuey> ejpbruel: and thanks, it's pretty nice here, even if a bit cold
  1135. # [16:22] <khuey> Gijs: what regression?
  1136. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> Ask khuey :)
  1137. # [16:22] <ejpbruel> khuey: Germany is pretty awesome as a country :)
  1138. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, pff ;)
  1139. # [16:22] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: that pff suggests you are French ;)
  1140. # [16:22] <khuey> would probably get more out of it if I knew even basic german
  1141. # [16:23] <khuey> but yeah, it's nice
  1142. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Pah
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  1144. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> The French are all scruffy, like mounir
  1145. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> And editor
  1146. # [16:23] <Gijs> khuey: the tests are orange ridiculously often since about a week ago. I'm CC'd on the randomorange bug (bug 517482) which is how I noticed.
  1147. # [16:23] <ejpbruel> khuey: i learned German from the Hitler rant parodies. Apparently, the word Fegelein can be used to mean almost anything in german
  1148. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> (daily editor jibe: check)
  1149. # [16:23] <ejpbruel> khuey: most germans do speak pretty decent english, dont they?
  1150. # [16:24] <Gijs> ejpbruel: depends where you are in Germany, and what age group.
  1151. # [16:25] <ejpbruel> Gijs: i guess. dutch is close enough to german that i can actually make out most of what theyre saying
  1152. # [16:25] <khuey> ejpbruel: most of the younger people I've interacted with speak at leats intelligible english
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  1154. # [16:25] <khuey> ejpbruel: helps that I'm in a major city, I suspect
  1155. # [16:25] <khuey> Gijs: looking
  1156. # [16:25] <ejpbruel> khuey: Berlin?
  1157. # [16:25] <Archaeopteryx> ejpbruel: depends if they had to use it, at least for the older ones. and older people in the east (like my father, 60+) had no english at all
  1158. # [16:25] <khuey> ejpbruel: at the moment, dusseldorf
  1159. # [16:25] <khuey> was in hamburg earlier
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  1161. # [16:26] * Gijs waves at Archaeopteryx for no particular reason.
  1162. # [16:26] <ejpbruel> khuey: cool. you should make a stop at amsterdam if you get the chance ;)
  1163. # [16:26] <Archaeopteryx> but everybody ten years younger and below should have had english at school
  1164. # [16:26] * Archaeopteryx waves back to the guy often to understand
  1165. # [16:26] <khuey> ejpbruel: don't think I'm going to make it to amsterdam on this trip, unfortunately
  1166. # [16:26] <khuey> might jaunt over to maastricht for a bit though
  1167. # [16:27] <Gijs> khuey: it's 3 hours by train from Düsseldorf to Amsterdam. Direct, too. ;)
  1168. # [16:27] <MarcoZ> Hi all! Are we still chasing the bug where Firefox would freeze for 10 seconds or so before resumign operation? I believe I found STR on my system that are reliable.
  1169. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> And they've got lots of weed!
  1170. # [16:28] <Gijs> MarcoZ: might be better off asking tomorrow, as today's a public holiday in the US... (also, hi!)
  1171. # [16:29] <ejpbruel> khuey: too bad :(
  1172. # [16:29] <MarcoZ> Gijs: Yes I know about the holiday. Just thought some Canadians might be around. ;-) Or people from Europe who might be interested.
  1173. # [16:29] <MarcoZ> Gijs: And hi, good to see you around!
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  1176. # [16:29] <khuey> ejpbruel: yeah
  1177. # [16:30] <khuey> ejpbruel: guess it means I have to come back at some point ;-)
  1178. # [16:30] <khuey> Ms2ger: not a fan
  1179. # [16:30] <ejpbruel> khuey: that works too :) if you're ever in the vicinity, you should give me a buzz
  1180. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> khuey, you could move here :)
  1181. # [16:31] <khuey> but then I'd have to deal with visas and that whole language thing
  1182. # [16:31] <khuey> much easier to just visit
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  1185. # [16:31] <MarcoZ> ms2ger: Where is "here"? ;)
  1186. # [16:31] <khuey> plus I'd be in a timezone that makes working much more annoying
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  1188. # [16:31] <khuey> MarcoZ: europe, I believe
  1189. # [16:31] <khuey> MarcoZ: btw you live in hamburg, right?
  1190. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Germany
  1191. # [16:31] <MarcoZ> khuey: That is correct, Sir!
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  1193. # [16:31] <khuey> MarcoZ: I was in your city this weekend
  1194. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Then he's far away enough to not bother me
  1195. # [16:32] <khuey> MarcoZ: it is quite nice
  1196. # [16:32] <khuey> a little cold though ;-)
  1197. # [16:32] <MarcoZ> khuey: Hey and you didn't give me aholler! I'll take that personally! :D :D :D
  1198. # [16:32] <khuey> heh
  1199. # [16:32] <khuey> sorry
  1200. # [16:32] <khuey> was busy every second I was there :-)
  1201. # [16:32] <MarcoZ> khuey: Just kidding. ;)
  1202. # [16:33] <MarcoZ> ms2ger: Where do you live?
  1203. # [16:33] <khuey> Gijs: so, it looks like this landed on inbound on january 11th
  1204. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> MarcoZ, somewhere in Europe :)
  1205. # [16:33] <MarcoZ> ms2ger: OK ;)
  1206. # [16:33] <khuey> didn't we narrow it down to the netherlands?
  1207. # [16:34] <Ms2ger> Jesse++
  1208. # [16:34] <Gijs> khuey: and 'this' meaning...?
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  1210. # [16:34] <khuey> Gijs: whatever broke it
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  1212. # [16:34] <Gijs> Ah, OK. :)
  1213. # [16:34] <khuey> Gijs: so http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/751ce658ce73 fits the timing perfectly
  1214. # [16:34] <khuey> and is in the relevant code
  1215. # [16:35] <Gijs> Wow.
  1216. # [16:35] <Gijs> Yes.
  1217. # [16:35] * Ms2ger load backedoutbykylehuey.com
  1218. # [16:35] <khuey> I'm not a betting man, but I'd put a few beers on that
  1219. # [16:35] <Gijs> Same.
  1220. # [16:35] * Gijs looked for a commit on 9 or 10 and didn't find one...
  1221. # [16:35] <Gijs> Anyway, awesome.
  1222. # [16:36] <khuey> Gijs: commented on the bug
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  1224. # [16:37] <Gijs> khuey: great. It's interesting that we considered scrapping this test many years back because it fails every now and then, and now it still proves its worth. :-)
  1225. # [16:38] <Gijs> (well, or that it really does need to get scrapped, I suppose)
  1226. # [16:38] <khuey> Gijs: yeah depends on whether the bug is in the test or the patch
  1227. # [16:38] * khuey doesn't pretend to know the answer to that
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  1229. # [16:39] <Gijs> Fair enough. Thanks for helping to figure this one out, in any case!
  1230. # [16:39] <khuey> sure, np
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  1236. # [16:41] <timeless> !seen bernd
  1237. # [16:41] <firewolfbot> bernd was last seen 2 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 43 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying 'it was just a random sample, I was trying to understand if there is a coding pattern that one should avoid ' in #developers.
  1238. # [16:41] <timeless> anyone here familiar w/ nsCellMapColumnIterator::GetNextFrame?
  1239. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Not it
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  1241. # [16:42] <timeless> i'm in there and the class has mOrigCells == 0n27135; mFoundCells == 0n19775
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  1243. # [16:42] <timeless> nightly isn't exactly "responsive"
  1244. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> 0n?
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  1261. # [16:56] <timeless> as opposed to 0x or 0b iirc
  1262. # [16:56] * timeless isn't certain about the binary prefix
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  1265. # [16:57] <timeless> nope, no binary prefix, as opposed to 0 for octal :)
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  1269. # [16:58] <timeless> i.e. "that's a decimal number, not a hex number that happens to not have any hex digits"
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  1283. # [17:05] <gabor> mrbkap: do you have a moment?
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  1297. # [17:16] <mrbkap> gabor: hey, what's up?
  1298. # [17:17] <gabor> hey, so you might remember this old bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658909#c18 and I picked it up again
  1299. # [17:17] <mrbkap> gabor: hey, yeah.
  1300. # [17:17] <gabor> got a bit further with the approach you have suggested... but found an issue
  1301. # [17:18] <gabor> can you check my latest comment and let me know if there is an easy fix for this or if you have any hints for me or if it's more complicated?
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  1307. # [17:22] <jrmuizel> khuey: ping
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  1311. # [17:26] <gabor> mrbkap: I don't really understand how does quickstub avoid this problem... maybe that QITableEntry magic?
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  1330. # [17:38] <khuey> jrmuizel: going out for dinner, will be back later today
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  1332. # [17:38] <jrmuizel> khuey|away: what timezone are you in?
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  1334. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> jrmuizel, Germany
  1335. # [17:39] <jrmuizel> ah
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  1337. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> Currently Dusseldorf
  1338. # [17:39] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b3b8d62e0d92 - Olli Pettay - Backout bug 718340 since there was unknown orange
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  1367. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> <luser> i wasn't drunk when i wrote the patch
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  1370. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> That's what they all say
  1371. # [18:00] <sid0> bbondy: hi, I saw a UAC prompt again today
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  1373. # [18:00] <sid0> bbondy: I verified that the maintenance service exe was missing
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  1376. # [18:00] <bbondy> sid0: ok great so it's the same, there's a fix pending review already
  1377. # [18:00] <bbondy> sid0: thx for verifying
  1378. # [18:00] <sid0> cool, np
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  1415. # [18:27] <gabor> mrbkap: yeah I think this comments summs up the difference: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCQuickStubs.cpp#390
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  1428. # [18:35] <felipeg> var d = document.createElement("div"); d.innerHTML = "<select><option>foo bar</option><select>"; d.firstChild.firstChild.value
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  1430. # [18:35] <felipeg> This gives “foo bar” (1 space), not 2 as given in the HTML
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  1433. # [18:35] <felipeg> WebKit honors the 2 spaces.
  1434. # [18:35] <felipeg> Does anyone know what the correct behavior is?
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  1437. # [18:39] <ejpbruel> lesson learned: DONT build firefox without an obj dir
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  1441. # [18:40] <jdm> good lesson
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  1448. # [18:44] <Ms2ger> felipeg, you saw the bug, I assume?
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  1463. # [18:50] <timeless> felipeg: collapsing spaces is almost certainly correct
  1464. # [18:50] <timeless> you should use 'foo &nbsp;bar'
  1465. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> I wouldn't be so certain
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  1467. # [18:51] <timeless> Ms2ger: i wasn't "absolutely certain", only "almost certain" :)
  1468. # [18:51] <timeless> hsivonen: ping ^
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  1470. # [18:52] <timeless> Ms2ger: should i have said "is probably not wrong" ? :)
  1471. # [18:52] <sid0> hmm
  1472. # [18:52] <ejpbruel> fennec debug crashes on my samsung galaxy 2
  1473. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> "May or may not be wrong"? :)
  1474. # [18:52] <mats> it depends on what the (CSS) white-space property is for <option>
  1475. # [18:52] <felipeg> nono
  1476. # [18:53] <felipeg> I’m not talking about how it renders
  1477. # [18:53] <felipeg> I’m talking about what gets submitted in a form.
  1478. # [18:53] <sid0> why does nsLocalFileWin declare that directories are never executable
  1479. # [18:53] <mats> oh, ok
  1480. # [18:53] <Ms2ger> felipeg, probably not collapsed then
  1481. # [18:54] <timeless> sid0: executable wasn't meant for directories to map to <can traverse/enumerate>
  1482. # [18:54] <timeless> on windows executable was meant to mean "can i run this as an application"
  1483. # [18:54] <philor> sid0: it was drunk, and its wife had gone to stay with her mother, that's how every "why nsLocalFileWin" story starts
  1484. # [18:54] <sid0> timeless: well then GetPermissions should be fixed
  1485. # [18:54] <timeless> the fact that you could always trigger <explorer>
  1486. # [18:54] <timeless> was ignored
  1487. # [18:54] <sid0> timeless: because GetPermissions will never return a set executable bit
  1488. # [18:55] <timeless> sid0: sounds like a moderately reasonable complaint
  1489. # [18:55] <sid0> assume I'm trying to write somewhat cross-platform code
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  1491. # [18:55] <sid0> I try to call IsExecutable or GetPermissions
  1492. # [18:56] <sid0> on unixes I can assume IsExecutable will return true a lot of the time
  1493. # [18:56] <sid0> philor: heh
  1494. # [18:56] <timeless> felipeg: skip White_Space characters is probably the relevant bit
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  1496. # [18:57] <felipeg> timeless: where is White_Space ?
  1497. # [18:57] <timeless> felipeg: somewhere in the html5 spec
  1498. # [18:57] <sid0> timeless: I do think we should return true for traversable dirs
  1499. # [18:58] <timeless> although reading the htlm spec is painful
  1500. # [18:58] <sid0> I realize it's terrible...
  1501. # [18:58] <timeless> sid0: the reality is that the api is crap
  1502. # [18:59] <sid0> I wouldn't disagree
  1503. # [18:59] <timeless> it was a stupid posix idea which was never going to be remotely helpful for anyone developing on windows
  1504. # [18:59] <timeless> i'd rather someone write an ACL api
  1505. # [18:59] <timeless> w/ the new version model where each major version is allowed to break apis
  1506. # [18:59] <timeless> you're free to break what IsExecutable means
  1507. # [18:59] <timeless> just do people a favor and post to <something> when you do it
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  1509. # [18:59] <timeless> md-xpcom?
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  1511. # [18:59] <timeless> hrm, i owe someone a ping
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  1515. # [19:01] <felipeg> Should I file a bug about <option>foo bar</option>?
  1516. # [19:01] <sid0> timeless: yeah, that's true
  1517. # [19:01] <timeless> felipeg: no :)
  1518. # [19:01] <timeless> 1. there's almost certainly already a complaint about it
  1519. # [19:01] <timeless> 2. i don't believe it's a bug :)
  1520. # [19:01] <timeless> if you want to file a bug you should: a. search to find a pre-existing bug
  1521. # [19:01] <timeless> b. prove to yourself that what firefox is doing violates the spec
  1522. # [19:02] <mats> felipeg: note that d.firstChild.firstChild.textContent includes the two spaces though
  1523. # [19:02] <felipeg> Yeah, I’m trying to find the part of the spec that deals with whitespace reduction and/or implicit value attributes.
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  1525. # [19:03] <timeless> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-button-element.html#dom-option-text
  1526. # [19:03] <timeless> The text IDL attribute, on getting, must return the value of the textContent IDL attribute on the element, with leading and trailing whitespace stripped, and with any sequences of two or more space characters replaced by a single U+0020 SPACE character. On setting, it must act as if the textContent IDL attribute on the element had been set to the new value.
  1527. # [19:03] <timeless> felipeg: so, as it happens, webkit is violating the html5 spec
  1528. # [19:03] <felipeg> ahh, cool
  1529. # [19:03] <timeless> The value attribute provides a value for element. The value of an option element is the value of the value content attribute, if there is one, or, if there is not, the value of the element's text IDL attribute.
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  1531. # [19:03] <timeless> value forwards to text, and text is bloody explicit on this point
  1532. # [19:03] <felipeg> sweet
  1533. # [19:03] <timeless> editor++
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  1535. # [19:04] <felipeg> :) thanks
  1536. # [19:04] <timeless> now, having established that gecko is not buggy
  1537. # [19:04] <timeless> and that webkit is
  1538. # [19:04] <timeless> you should search webkit's bugzilla(s) for existing reports
  1539. # [19:04] <timeless> and failing to find one, you should file one :)
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  1542. # [19:04] * timeless cheers well written specs
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  1566. # [19:13] <gw280> cshields: been told to ask you about why hg clone isn't working right now for moz-central?
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  1572. # [19:18] <catlee> gw280: see topic
  1573. # [19:18] <catlee> still having http caching issues
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  1578. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> timeless, White_Space is almost always wrong
  1579. # [19:23] <timeless> Ms2ger: as a spelling or a technical step in the html5 spec?
  1580. # [19:23] <timeless> because i was c+p'ing
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  1582. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> It's got the wrong set of space characters
  1583. # [19:24] * Ms2ger waves at ehsan
  1584. # [19:24] <ehsan> :)
  1585. # [19:25] <timeless> Ms2ger: if you're complaining about the `_`, that's in the spec..
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  1587. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> I'm not
  1588. # [19:26] * smontagu notes that space characters and White_Space characters are distinct in html5
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  1591. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> Indeed
  1592. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> And the latter is usually not what you want
  1593. # [19:29] <mounir> glandium: so I have a PGO build, presumably
  1594. # [19:29] <mounir> where do I look for the link size
  1595. # [19:29] <timeless> Ms2ger: yeah, welll, in this case what i wanted was a step in <.text>
  1596. # [19:29] <mounir> glandium: IOW, what's the string to grep
  1597. # [19:29] <timeless> smontagu: hey, i had a question for you
  1598. # [19:29] <timeless> (it's long since lost)
  1599. # [19:30] <timeless> smontagu: in other news... where do you sit wrt bus seating?
  1600. # [19:30] <smontagu> timeless: depends on the bus :)
  1601. # [19:30] <timeless> to me it harkens to the 60s/MLKjr
  1602. # [19:31] <timeless> smontagu: will you sit on a bus where your wife would have to sit at the back?
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  1605. # [19:32] <smontagu> unlikely
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  1607. # [19:32] <timeless> how much of a stir is that really making where you are?
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  1609. # [19:32] <timeless> it's pretty shocking for me on this side of the world
  1610. # [19:32] <glandium> mounir: "linker max virtual size"
  1611. # [19:32] <timeless> but i'm a product of the US post 60s
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  1613. # [19:33] <smontagu> it's rather stale news here
  1614. # [19:33] <timeless> (although the attempt to use yellow-stars as a 40s reference was pretty amazing..)
  1615. # [19:33] <mounir> glandium: 2266796032
  1616. # [19:33] <glandium> mounir: obviously you need to check the corresponding m-c build
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  1618. # [19:33] <timeless> smontagu: so it died out as a topic of conversation?
  1619. # [19:33] <timeless> (and nothing useful will come of it?)
  1620. # [19:34] <smontagu> there was a regulation recently introduced by the bus company disallowing it
  1621. # [19:34] <timeless> hrm, i'm not sure that made my news feeds
  1622. # [19:34] * Ms2ger wonders about context
  1623. # [19:34] <smontagu> where recently means "in the last 18 months"
  1624. # [19:34] <timeless> i don't suppose people are being arrested for blacking out faces in advertising?
  1625. # [19:34] <timeless> Ms2ger: .il disasters
  1626. # [19:35] <timeless> i'm intentionally omitting most of the words
  1627. # [19:35] <smontagu> advertisers knuckle under to pressure
  1628. # [19:35] <timeless> although i've used sufficient words that google could fill you in
  1629. # [19:35] <smontagu> don't display face likely to be blacked out
  1630. # [19:35] <smontagu> s/face/faces/
  1631. # [19:36] <timeless> Ms2ger: if you follow me on fb you'd see it somewhere in my feed :)
  1632. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> Is that Tim E. Less? :)
  1633. # [19:36] <smontagu> i haven't read the reports in foreign media, I don't know how accurate they are
  1634. # [19:37] <mounir> glandium: the size is smaller, that doesn't make any sense...
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  1636. # [19:37] <glandium> mounir: what is smaller?
  1637. # [19:37] <mounir> glandium: linker max size
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  1639. # [19:38] <mounir> with my build on try, I got 2266796032, on m-c, it's 3059470336
  1640. # [19:38] <glandium> mounir: is your value on the try push you linked earlier? the one where you removed the profile server?
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  1642. # [19:38] <mounir> glandium: yes
  1643. # [19:39] <glandium> mounir: well, then not surprising
  1644. # [19:39] <glandium> mounir: much less work to do for the linker
  1645. # [19:39] <mounir> ... no one told me that :-/
  1646. # [19:39] <timeless> Ms2ger: he got kicked off G+
  1647. # [19:39] <timeless> but She was also removed from Facebook
  1648. # [19:39] <timeless> (timeless@gmail)
  1649. # [19:40] * timeless grumbles
  1650. # [19:40] <Ms2ger> She?
  1651. # [19:40] <glandium> mounir: <khuey> mounir: yeah you weren't supposed to remove the profile line
  1652. # [19:40] <timeless> yeah, some black woman in Ohio iirc
  1653. # [19:40] <timeless> managed to add timeless@gmail as an alternate email address for facebook
  1654. # [19:40] <timeless> before they bothered to validate such things...
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  1656. # [19:40] <timeless> <grumble>
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  1658. # [19:40] <timeless> then she forgot her password and got locked out..
  1659. # [19:40] <gaston> glandium: fwiw, testing your diff from #684559 w/ 10.0b4 on openbsd/ppc
  1660. # [19:41] <mounir> glandium: yeah, it's not really like "you are going to have wrong results"
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  1662. # [19:41] <mounir> anyway, I just have to re-run a try build, no big deal
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  1664. # [19:41] <derf> glandium: Did you see cpearce's question?
  1665. # [19:41] <glandium> derf: no
  1666. # [19:41] <derf> 21:50:38 < cpearce> glandium: what do I have to build in order to link gkmedias.dll? I'm building layout/media, but gdmedias.dll isn't being rebuilt...
  1667. # [19:42] <glandium> gaston: no reason it would fail
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  1674. # [19:42] <glandium> cpearce: did you change anything under media?
  1675. # [19:42] <glandium> derf:^
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  1677. # [19:43] <derf> glandium: The original question in #media was:
  1678. # [19:43] <derf> 21:41:14 < cpearce> what directory links gkmedias.dll? layout/media/ doesn't seem to link it by itself, building in layout/ does link gkmedias.dll...
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  1682. # [19:44] <glandium> derf: layout/media links it
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  1684. # [19:44] <derf> That is what I thought as well.
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  1687. # [19:44] <jhk> mounir: is there way to verify layout/reftests?
  1688. # [19:44] <derf> But cpearce has empirical evidence to the contrary.
  1689. # [19:44] <glandium> derf: only if things changed
  1690. # [19:44] <@smaug> !seen bz
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  1693. # [19:44] <glandium> derf: and only on windows
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  1696. # [19:45] <derf> glandium: Well, his statement suggests building in layout made enough to change to cause it to get relinked.
  1697. # [19:45] <timeless> it took me a while to get facebook to remove my email address from her account..
  1698. # [19:45] <derf> s/to change/change/
  1699. # [19:45] <derf> And .dll implies Windows.
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  1702. # [19:45] <glandium> derf: if he only built layout/media without rebuilding media/something after doing changes there, then yes, layout/media doesn't rebuild stuff in media
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  1704. # [19:46] <derf> Ah, hmm.
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  1706. # [19:46] <derf> But then why would rebuilding layout make it work?
  1707. # [19:46] <josh> anyone else having trouble doing "hg update" from mozilla-central recently?
  1708. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> josh, http? See topic
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  1712. # [19:46] <derf> That shouldn't rebuild anything in media/ by itself, either, should it?
  1713. # [19:46] <josh> Ms2ger: thanks!
  1714. # [19:47] <glandium> derf: because somewhere under layout, media is rebuild
  1715. # [19:47] <derf> What?
  1716. # [19:47] <derf> Where does that happen?
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  1718. # [19:47] <glandium> derf: iirc media is not built "standalone", it's built from somewhere else
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  1720. # [19:48] <derf> glandium: How do I find where that is?
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  1722. # [19:49] <derf> grep \\\<DIRS\\\> -r . didn't turn up anything useful.
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  1724. # [19:50] <glandium> looks like i'm wrong, it seems to be plain platform tier, though make -C objdir/media won't do anything, it has to be make -C objdir/media/something
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  1733. # [19:53] <derf> glandium: Ah, I think I understand.
  1734. # [19:53] <derf> layout/build/Makefile.in is what rebuilds the actual libraries in media.
  1735. # [19:54] <glandium> derf: i don't see where
  1736. # [19:54] <glandium> derf: it builds content/media stuff, but i don't see media there
  1737. # [19:55] <derf> Oh, I am looking at an old checkout.
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  1740. # [19:58] <derf> Yeah, all that stuff is in layout/media/Makefile.in now.
  1741. # [19:58] <derf> So I'm back to being confused.
  1742. # [19:58] <derf> E.g., the $(DEPTH)/media/libvorbis/lib/$(LIB_PREFIX)vorbis.$(LIB_SUFFIX) lines.
  1743. # [19:58] <derf> Which is what I assume adds the dependency that causes those to get rebuilt.
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  1745. # [19:59] <derf> Does it not make gkmedias depend on SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS for some reason, so they get built in the wrong order?
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  1748. # [20:03] <glandium> derf: it adds dependencies, but it doesn't make them built
  1749. # [20:03] <derf> I don't understand that sentence.
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  1751. # [20:04] <cpearce> glandium: I am rebuilding media/libsydneyaudio/ and layout/media/, but gkmedias.dll isn't being linked.
  1752. # [20:04] <glandium> derf: these rules add make dependencies, such that the gkmedia lib is rebuilt when the media libs change, but doesn't rebuild the media libs
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  1754. # [20:05] <glandium> that's unexpected
  1755. # [20:05] <glandium> derf: what does make -C objdir/layout/media echo-variable-SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS_DEPS say?
  1756. # [20:05] <derf> cpearce: ^
  1757. # [20:05] <derf> cpearce: Also, good morning.
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  1759. # [20:06] <cpearce> glandium: $ make -C objdir/layout/media echo-variable-SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS_DEPS
  1760. # [20:06] <cpearce> make: Entering directory `/c/Users/cpearce/src/mozilla/yellow/objdir/layout/media'
  1761. # [20:06] <cpearce> ../../gfx/ots/src/mozots.lib.desc ../../media/libvorbis/lib/vorbis.lib.desc ../../media/libogg/src/ogg.lib.desc ../../media/libtheora/lib/theora.lib.desc ../../media/libnestegg/src/nestegg.lib.desc ../../media/libvpx/vpx.lib.desc ../../media/libsydneyaudio/src/sydneyaudio.lib.desc ../../gfx/angle/angle.lib.desc
  1762. # [20:06] <cpearce> make: Leaving directory `/c/Users/cpearce/src/mozilla/yellow/objdir/layout/media'
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  1767. # [20:07] <glandium> cpearce: is objdir/media/libsydneyaudio/src/sydneyaudio.lib.desc refreshed when you make -C objdir/media/libsydneyaudio/ ?
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  1770. # [20:07] <cpearce> glandium: nope.
  1771. # [20:08] <glandium> cpearce: that would be the problem. it should be refreshed
  1772. # [20:09] <glandium> cpearce: it works, here, though
  1773. # [20:09] <glandium> when touching a file under media/libsydneyaudio/src/, make -C objdir/media/libsydneyaudio/ does build that file and do expandlibs_gen.py
  1774. # [20:09] <glandium> cpearce: doesn't it, for you?
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  1778. # [20:10] <gavin> Unfocused: I review the vast majority of the patches in my queue promptly, I would appreciate it if you didn't suggest otherwise!
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  1780. # [20:12] <cpearce> glandium: what command line should I use for expandlibs_gen.py?
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  1785. # [20:13] <cshields> gw280: ok. I can try clearing cache and see if that helps for you - permanent solution is being worked on as we speak
  1786. # [20:13] <cshields> gw280: try again?
  1787. # [20:13] <glandium> cpearce: make -C objdir/media/libsydneyaudio/ should do it
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  1789. # [20:14] <glandium> cpearce: for example, on linux: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451209
  1790. # [20:14] <gavin> khuey|away, Unfocused: though also, the intersection of firefox reviewers / toolkit reviewers is rather large, now!
  1791. # [20:14] <glandium> no reason this wouldn't work on windows
  1792. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> Famous last words
  1793. # [20:16] <cpearce> glandium: it does not work for me. here's what I get: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451210
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  1795. # [20:17] <glandium> cpearce: it's there, line 30
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  1798. # [20:18] <glandium> cpearce: if windows is not able to see that the .lib.desc file is newer than gkmedias.dll, there's something wrong
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  1801. # [20:22] <cpearce> glandium: that doesn't make the necessary fix obvious to me. :(
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  1804. # [20:23] <derf> cpearce: make -d -C objdir/layout/media/ (and be prepared for lots of output)
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  1809. # [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1a2426b19376 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 717868. (Bv1) bug389321-1.html: Fix "Unknown key: VK_VK_BACK_SPACE". r=ehsan.
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  1811. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsCSPService.cpp#288
  1812. # [20:27] <Ms2ger> Anybody who still thinks the may-be-used-uninitialized warning is not useful, please look at that and shut up, thanks
  1813. # [20:27] <cpearce> derf, glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451219
  1814. # [20:28] <derf> Ms2ger: It's incredibly useful. And also an incredible time-waster.
  1815. # [20:28] <derf> The latter because it's so useful you can't jsut shut it off.
  1816. # [20:28] <derf> *just
  1817. # [20:31] <derf> cpearce: Oh.
  1818. # [20:31] <derf> It's remaking symbols.def, because it's the first target in the Makefile, and that makes it the default.
  1819. # [20:31] <derf> Try moving that target after the rules.mk include.
  1820. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> Who reviews calendar stuff?
  1821. # [20:34] * Ms2ger usually never gets review for his c-c patches
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  1824. # [20:36] <glandium> cpearce: ah, it's building symbols.def by default. try make -C objdir/layout/media libs
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  1828. # [20:37] <cpearce> glandium: that did it, thanks. It would be nice if it did that by default though.
  1829. # [20:37] <jdm> Ms2ger: you could try :Fallen, perhaps?
  1830. # [20:38] <gw280> cshields: hang on :)
  1831. # [20:38] <Ms2ger> Who's that? :)
  1832. # [20:38] <gw280> cshields: still not working :(
  1833. # [20:38] <glandium> cpearce: try this patch: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451223
  1834. # [20:38] <derf> cpearce: If you move the target after the include like I was suggesting, it should, I believe.
  1835. # [20:38] <jdm> Ms2ger: what's the problem in that source link?
  1836. # [20:38] <derf> Or do that.
  1837. # [20:38] <jdm> oh
  1838. # [20:39] <jdm> I see it now
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  1841. # [20:40] <glandium> cpearce: feel free to file a bug and assign it to me
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  1848. # [20:44] <Fallen|mac> Ms2ger: thats me
  1849. # [20:44] <Fallen|mac> if its that one you pushed, r=philipp
  1850. # [20:45] <Fallen|mac> bugzilla id contains :Fallen for everything else
  1851. # [20:46] <cpearce> glandium: that patch seems to work
  1852. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> No, I noticed some rather too complex code in that file :)
  1853. # [20:46] <felipeg> var d = document.createElement("div"); d.innerHTML = "<select><option>foo bar</option><select>"; d.firstChild.firstChild.value
  1854. # [20:46] <cpearce> glandium: I'll file a bug for you.
  1855. # [20:47] <felipeg> timeless: Does the spec not actually imply that .text should strip spaces, but .value shouldn’t?
  1856. # [20:47] <felipeg> The WK folks seem to think so: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76392
  1857. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> felipeg, .text definitely should
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  1859. # [20:48] <felipeg> According to this:
  1860. # [20:48] <felipeg> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-button-element.html#dom-option-text
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  1862. # [20:48] <felipeg> .value should just give textContent
  1863. # [20:48] <Ms2ger> felipeg, .value shouldn't strip
  1864. # [20:48] <felipeg> while .text is what gives the trimmed, and spaces-reduced version of the string.
  1865. # [20:49] <timeless> felipeg: err
  1866. # [20:49] <felipeg> sorry Ms2ger, I’m actually wondering about reducing spaces
  1867. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  1869. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> .value should leave all spaces alone
  1870. # [20:49] <timeless> The value attribute provides a value for element. The value of an option element is the value of the value content attribute, if there is one, or, if there is not, the value of the element's text IDL attribute.
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  1872. # [20:50] <timeless> it clearly indicates that <value> returns the value of the <text> thing if there's no <value> attribute
  1873. # [20:50] <felipeg> The value IDL attribute, on getting, must return the value of the element's value content attribute, if it has one, or else the value of the element's textContent IDL attribute. On setting, the element's value content attribute must be set to the new value.
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  1876. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> timeless, the |value| IDL attribute doesn't return the /value/
  1877. # [20:50] <timeless> option . text
  1878. # [20:50] <timeless> Same as textContent, except that spaces are collapsed.
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  1880. # [20:51] <timeless> grr
  1881. # [20:51] <timeless> The value IDL attribute, on getting, must return the value of the element's value content attribute, if it has one, or else the value of the element's textContent IDL attribute. On setting, the element's value content attribute must be set to the new value.
  1882. # [20:51] * timeless sighs
  1883. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> So submitting will strip spaces, I guess
  1884. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> /reduce/whatever
  1885. # [20:52] <timeless> collapse
  1886. # [20:52] <felipeg> real quick, what’s the diff between the IDL attr and the … non-IDL? … attr
  1887. # [20:52] <felipeg> ?
  1888. # [20:52] <timeless> one is .getAttribute("foo")
  1889. # [20:52] <timeless> the other is .foo
  1890. # [20:52] <felipeg> oh fun
  1891. # [20:52] <timeless> yeah
  1892. # [20:52] <timeless> note that .foo is idl
  1893. # [20:52] <felipeg> so one will collapse, and the other won’t.
  1894. # [20:53] <timeless> generally getAttribute should return whatever was there without doing anything particularly magical
  1895. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> There's not content attribute involved here
  1896. # [20:53] <timeless> and .foo will do lots of magic
  1897. # [20:53] <timeless> in this case it's doing forwarding to various other properties
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  1902. # [20:54] <timeless> ok, Ms2ger help
  1903. # [20:54] <timeless> i can't find "The textContent idl attribute"
  1904. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> It's in DOM4
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  1907. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> No link?
  1908. # [20:55] <timeless> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/infrastructure.html#textcontent
  1909. # [20:55] <timeless> #textcontent
  1910. # [20:55] <timeless> No references in this file.
  1911. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> In particular, the following features are defined in the DOM Core specification:
  1912. # [20:55] <timeless> hardly useful
  1913. # [20:56] <timeless> so, in the end, that's more or less http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-dom-20120105/#dom-node-textcontent
  1914. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#dom-node-textcontent
  1915. # [20:56] <timeless> felipeg: ok, so, sorry, since it looks like <.value> is forwarding to <.textContent> and not <.text>, ...
  1916. # [20:57] <timeless> Ms2ger: ok, and that doesn't do collapsing?
  1917. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> Nope
  1918. # [20:57] <timeless> it just talks about concatenation
  1919. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> Indeed
  1920. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> So it concatenates everything
  1921. # [20:58] <timeless> so...
  1922. # [20:58] <timeless> i claim this is a disaster
  1923. # [20:58] <timeless> because i'd assume the reason one would look for <.value> is to be aware of what would be submitted to the server
  1924. # [20:59] <timeless> and that's going to be the value attribute, which will be collapsed
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  1926. # [21:01] <timeless> data:text/html,<form action="data:text/plain,x"><form name=form id=form><select id=a name=a><option>hello world</option></select><input type=submit></form>
  1927. # [21:01] <timeless> does that do something useful in firefox when you click submit?
  1928. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> File bug
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  1930. # [21:02] * timeless sighs
  1931. # [21:02] * timeless still has a dozen corporate bugs to file
  1932. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> mounir may care enough to file the bug for you
  1933. # [21:02] <timeless> grr, ie9 doesn't support data urls?
  1934. # [21:02] <felipeg> timeless: in a limited sense, yes
  1935. # [21:02] <timeless> felipeg: to the firefox or ie question?
  1936. # [21:03] <timeless> i'm more interested in what firefox does
  1937. # [21:03] <felipeg> ie
  1938. # [21:03] <timeless> ie9 doesn't load my test url
  1939. # [21:03] <timeless> let alone the submitted url
  1940. # [21:03] <felipeg> sorry, will test ff here in a bit
  1941. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> No, IE only supports data URLs just enough to pass Acid2
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  1944. # [21:04] <felipeg> timeless: Is that supposed to be 2 spaces between hello and world?
  1945. # [21:04] <felipeg> cut-paste only gives one space between them…
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  1947. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> Yes
  1948. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> x?a=hello+world here
  1949. # [21:05] <felipeg> Ditto.
  1950. # [21:05] <felipeg> data:text/plain,x?a=hello+world
  1951. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> Which makes sense
  1952. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> s/makes sense/matches the spec/
  1953. # [21:06] <felipeg> Heh.
  1954. # [21:06] <felipeg> Chrome does: data:text/plain,x
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  1956. # [21:07] <@smaug> hmm, I can't select WinXP when using trychooser
  1957. # [21:07] <timeless> felipeg: yeah, the chrome behavior is what's driving me nuts
  1958. # [21:07] <timeless> the firefox behavior is what i expect
  1959. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> smaug, we don't build on winxp, do we?
  1960. # [21:07] <timeless> note that right now i'm more interested in "why the heck did chrome ignore my form!"
  1961. # [21:08] <timeless> the space count is secondary
  1962. # [21:08] <timeless> and since i don't have a firefox handy, i'm not going to poke it
  1963. # [21:08] <@smaug> Ms2ger: well, selecting win32 and mochitest-1 doesn't give me WinXP tests
  1964. # [21:08] * timeless goes back to trying to rescue a firefox
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  1966. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> :/
  1967. # [21:08] <@smaug> at least I think so...
  1968. # [21:09] * @smaug needs to wait a bit longer
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  1973. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/1936
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  1975. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> Just for you, timeless
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  1977. # [21:14] <timeless> Ms2ger: thanks
  1978. # [21:15] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  1979. # [21:15] <khuey> jrmuizel: GMT+1
  1980. # [21:15] <khuey> jrmuizel: also, pong
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  1987. # [21:22] <timeless> Ms2ger: is an xmlhttprequest with a responsebody length of 187,425,792 reasonable?
  1988. # [21:23] <Ms2ger> Sure
  1989. # [21:23] <Ms2ger> But I'm not a reasonable person :)
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  1993. # [21:23] <timeless> am i right in reading that as 187mb of text?
  1994. # [21:23] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger++ ;)
  1995. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> Could be
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  1997. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> XHR is Anne's territory
  1998. # [21:25] <timeless> (plus or minus some percent for people being anal about metric systems)
  1999. # [21:26] <@smaug> what is the scope of XBL field
  2000. # [21:26] <timeless> smaug: as in when does its content js object gc?
  2001. # [21:26] <jrmuizel> khuey: I was wondering about if there's a way to pass an array into idl that includes an implicit length, instead of having to be explicit
  2002. # [21:27] <@smaug> timeless: no
  2003. # [21:27] <jrmuizel> khuey: I now expect the answer to be no
  2004. # [21:27] <ehsan> jprmc: ping
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  2006. # [21:27] <@smaug> timeless: I mean, if the JS inside field refers to a property, where does it try to get the property
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  2009. # [21:28] <khuey> jrmuizel: nope
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  2011. # [21:28] <jrmuizel> khuey: when do we get to have webidl?
  2012. # [21:28] <timeless> smaug: i think it has access to other <field>s and of course the xbl inheritance chain
  2013. # [21:28] <khuey> jrmuizel: we're going to be hacking extensively on that in paris next week
  2014. # [21:28] <jrmuizel> khuey: nice
  2015. # [21:28] <jrmuizel> !
  2016. # [21:29] <khuey> jrmuizel: can't say when it will be done, but we're looking to stand it up as quickly as possible
  2017. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, got your parser finished already?
  2018. # [21:29] <khuey> not really
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  2020. # [21:30] <khuey> heycam kept changing the spec so I decided to work on other things for a bit
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  2023. # [21:31] <RyanVM> cshields: are you messing around with things again? :)
  2024. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Last change, 5 Jan?
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  2026. # [21:31] <cshields> RyanVM: working on building around the problem
  2027. # [21:31] <RyanVM> hah
  2028. # [21:32] <khuey> Ms2ger: yeah, and then I flew to europe on the 9th
  2029. # [21:32] <khuey> and haven't hacked on it here
  2030. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> You could fix that! :)
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  2032. # [21:33] <khuey> I could
  2033. # [21:33] <khuey> but I'm going to frankfurt tomorrow
  2034. # [21:33] <khuey> so the earliest that will get fixed is wednesday
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  2037. # [21:36] <Fallen|mac> Ms2ger: about the c-c try build, I think just pushing to ThunderbirdTry won't build calendar. Some magic is required to do so. As noted in the bug, its not that important though :-)
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  2041. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> Fallen|away, like this: http://hg.mozilla.org/try-comm-central/rev/8733095dd3cc#l4.1 ? :)
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  2043. # [21:37] <timeless> khuey: that reminds me
  2044. # [21:37] <timeless> i need to review the spec again
  2045. # [21:38] <timeless> since he changed a huge portion of it :(
  2046. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> firebot, uuid?
  2047. # [21:38] <firebot> 04139dff-a6f0-446d-9aec-2062df887ef2 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
  2048. # [21:38] <khuey> timeless: yeah, it's definitely a moving target :-/
  2049. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> khuey, we call that a "Living Standard"
  2050. # [21:39] <Fallen|mac> Ms2ger: oh, missed that one. That should be enough to get it building, but I think some extra stuff is needed for try to actually upload the .xpis
  2051. # [21:40] <timeless> Ms2ger: for people who have other things to do, reviewing a living standard is problematic
  2052. # [21:40] <biesi> timeless, which spec is this?
  2053. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> And I'd say that's better than finding out after implementing it that half a dozen specs define slightly-different approached to things it doesn't support
  2054. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> biesi, WebIDL
  2055. # [21:40] <biesi> ah
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  2057. # [21:41] * Ms2ger mumbles something about infrastructure :)
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  2059. # [21:41] <timeless> Ms2ger: i'm not saying i disagree
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  2061. # [21:41] <timeless> it's just well...
  2062. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> What I want is a single place that lists diffs for all the specs
  2063. # [21:42] <cshields> RyanVM: give me a few and I hope to have cache bypassed for external hg.m.o users
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  2065. # [21:42] <RyanVM> ok
  2066. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Fallen|mac, alright, let's see what happens :)
  2067. # [21:43] <khuey> oh yay, ldap first notice
  2068. # [21:43] * khuey grumbles about our absurd password policies
  2069. # [21:43] <mwu> oh yeah, I'm on my second notice
  2070. # [21:43] <cshields> khuey: we (in IT) hate them too
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  2072. # [21:43] <mwu> guess I'll reset now.
  2073. # [21:43] <cshields> and argue them every quarter
  2074. # [21:43] <khuey> cshields: orly?
  2075. # [21:43] * khuey thought you were the bad guys :-)
  2076. # [21:43] <cshields> yeah.. its an infrasec call
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  2078. # [21:44] <khuey> fun
  2079. # [21:44] <cshields> and come to find out, "changing" the password everywhere is not a big deal for them because they just don't save passwords..
  2080. # [21:44] <cshields> so for them, changing a password means just to start entering a new one each time prompted
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  2082. # [21:44] <Cwiiis> is it a known bug that flash is broken on Linux nightly btw? (and has been for 2 or 3 days)
  2083. # [21:44] <cshields> still a PITA for the rest of us :/
  2084. # [21:44] <mwu> I don't save my passwords either but it's still a PITA
  2085. # [21:45] <kinetik> Cwiiis: bug 717906, probably
  2086. # [21:45] <timeless> anyone here know how to get to a web page's url?
  2087. # [21:45] <timeless> e.g. can i easily do it from xul!PresShell ?
  2088. # [21:45] <Cwiiis> kinetik, thanks!
  2089. # [21:45] <felipeg1> timeless: cut/paste? :)
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  2091. # [21:46] <timeless> felipeg1: that requires a working web browser
  2092. # [21:46] <khuey> timeless: grab the mDocument off the nsIPresShell
  2093. # [21:46] <timeless> what i have is a very non responsive web browser
  2094. # [21:46] <timeless> khuey: thanks
  2095. # [21:46] <khuey> timeless: grab the URI off the document (mOriginalURI?)
  2096. # [21:46] <felipeg1> timeless: yeah, was kidding. I assumed you were in a different env.
  2097. # [21:47] <timeless> mdocumenturi is 0
  2098. # [21:47] * timeless checks originaluri
  2099. # [21:47] <timeless> also 0?
  2100. # [21:47] * timeless wonders if `this` isn't happy
  2101. # [21:47] <khuey> interesting
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  2103. # [21:49] <timeless> ok, the caller let me fish around
  2104. # [21:49] <timeless> 0x12e45528 "chrome://venkman/content/venkman.xul"
  2105. # [21:49] <timeless> not a surprise (very expected actually)
  2106. # [21:49] <khuey> does the doc have a channel?
  2107. # [21:49] <khuey> oh, you're already there
  2108. # [21:49] <khuey> sweet
  2109. # [21:49] <timeless> i went to nsDocument::FlushPendingNotifications
  2110. # [21:50] <RyanVM> $ hg pull -u
  2111. # [21:50] <RyanVM> abort: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
  2112. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> cshields, ^
  2113. # [21:50] <cshields> yeah, I just pushed a fix
  2114. # [21:50] <cshields> sorry :|
  2115. # [21:50] <timeless> this->mParser.mRawPtr->mPresShell->mDocument->mDocumentURI.mRawPtr->mSpec
  2116. # [21:51] <timeless> khuey: basically i think i managed to give venkman too many "cell lines" of content
  2117. # [21:51] <RyanVM> cshields: does the fix take time to propagate? still showing the error here
  2118. # [21:51] <cshields> yes
  2119. # [21:51] <cshields> give it a cpl mins
  2120. # [21:51] <RyanVM> ok
  2121. # [21:51] <timeless> and each time a "warning" or whatever is triggered venkman needs to update its stuff
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  2123. # [21:52] <timeless> khuey: ok, next problem
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  2125. # [21:52] <jprmc> ehsan: pong
  2126. # [21:52] <RyanVM> how does one get a pgo build on try?
  2127. # [21:52] <timeless> someone is calling xul!nsIDOMElement_GetClientHeight
  2128. # [21:52] <timeless> i'd really like to figure out who
  2129. # [21:52] <RyanVM> since a matching run didn't work in try chooser
  2130. # [21:52] <ehsan> jprmc: did we ever get metrics on how many pre xpsp2 users we have?
  2131. # [21:53] <nthomas> I sent Asa mail about that
  2132. # [21:53] <ehsan> did you hear back from him?
  2133. # [21:53] <nthomas> the < xpsp2 thing
  2134. # [21:53] <nthomas> got an ack, yeah
  2135. # [21:54] <khuey> timeless: DumpJSStack()?
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  2137. # [21:54] <timeless> khuey: i'm having trouble proving to myself that DumpJSStack works at all :(
  2138. # [21:54] <timeless> i should try
  2139. # [21:54] <khuey> ehsan: nthomas: didn't we just unthrotle updates last week?
  2140. # [21:54] <cshields> d'oh. found my problem :|
  2141. # [21:54] <nthomas> khuey: to 9.0.1, yeah
  2142. # [21:54] <ehsan> khuey: I think so, yeah
  2143. # [21:55] * timeless tries it
  2144. # [21:55] <khuey> yeah, so we probably don't have much in the way of numbers
  2145. # [21:55] <ehsan> how long should we wait for that data?
  2146. # [21:55] <nthomas> a bit after 2012-01-12 16:53
  2147. # [21:55] <jprmc> ehsan: i didn't see any, i was CC'ed on the mail to metrics
  2148. # [21:55] <jprmc> he said he would push harder last week
  2149. # [21:55] <nthomas> must be multipel mails floating around
  2150. # [21:55] <jprmc> nthomas: what kind of ack?
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  2152. # [21:55] <armenzg> joe: ping
  2153. # [21:55] <joe> armenzg: hi
  2154. # [21:56] <armenzg> hi joe; happy Monday
  2155. # [21:56] <joe> and to you !
  2156. # [21:56] <armenzg> I am looking at bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712630
  2157. # [21:56] <armenzg> and have not had a reply
  2158. # [21:56] <philor> threaten his dog, that always works
  2159. # [21:56] <armenzg> if I get told "I can't even look for the next 2 weeks" that's good too
  2160. # [21:56] <joe> armenzg: yeah, I'll get on Bas about that
  2161. # [21:57] <armenzg> is that an inside joke of the two of you?
  2162. # [21:57] <armenzg> thanks joe
  2163. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> Hi philor
  2164. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> How's your day?
  2165. # [21:58] <philor> awful, how about yours?
  2166. # [21:58] <joe> armenzg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713422#c6
  2167. # [21:58] <Ms2ger> Better than yours, or so it seems :)
  2168. # [21:58] <nthomas> jprmc: see your inbox
  2169. # [21:58] <Ms2ger> joe, we should give you a dog :)
  2170. # [21:59] <joe> :(
  2171. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> Actually, expense it
  2172. # [21:59] <joe> then philor will bbq it
  2173. # [21:59] <armenzg> joe: I read it on bugmail but thanks!
  2174. # [21:59] <joe> armenzg: that's the "inside joke" though
  2175. # [21:59] <armenzg> ah
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  2178. # [21:59] <RyanVM> cshields: $ hg push -f try
  2179. # [21:59] <RyanVM> pushing to ssh://ryanvm%40gmail.com@hg.mozilla.org/try/
  2180. # [21:59] <RyanVM> remote: ssh: connect to host hg.mozilla.org port 22: Bad file number
  2181. # [21:59] <RyanVM> abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
  2182. # [22:00] <cshields> grrr
  2183. # [22:00] <cshields> thanks
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  2187. # [22:00] <gaston> awsu'm, 10.0b4 finally builds on obsd/ppc
  2188. # [22:00] <jprmc> nthomas: thank you
  2189. # [22:00] <nthomas> np
  2190. # [22:00] <cshields> ryanvm: that will flip back to the old way any min now.. should have worked though
  2191. # [22:00] * cshields tries to repro
  2192. # [22:01] <philor> it's really only an inside joke to people who read Carl Hiaasen
  2193. # [22:01] <timeless> khuey: yeah, dump-jsstack works
  2194. # [22:01] <RyanVM> cshields: working now it appears
  2195. # [22:02] <cshields> yeah, your dns updated
  2196. # [22:02] <josh> I don't think pulling from hg using ssh works any better than http, maybe we should change the topic here
  2197. # [22:03] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'hg.m.o is having problems, we're moving to git || Bug 701371 needs clobber on all platforms apart from Linux || m-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN try: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: January 31st || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
  2198. # [22:03] <khuey> !seen bz
  2199. # [22:03] <firebot> bz was last seen 1 day, 14 hours, 31 minutes and 44 seconds ago, changing nick to bz_sleep.
  2200. # [22:03] <Ms2ger> That's a good night's sleep
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  2202. # [22:04] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: damn you for beating me to the punchline
  2203. # [22:04] <cshields> josh: it will work a lot better real soon (hopefully) - http
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  2208. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/42a133039277 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 628589. (Fv2) test_acceleration.html: Add a workaround for SeaMonkey (tinderboxes) which don't support acceleration. r=joe.
  2209. # [22:10] <armenzg> philor: I put few xp slaves as well in the pool; they were green on our development masters
  2210. # [22:10] <armenzg> I put the following slaves into the production pool:
  2211. # [22:10] <armenzg> * talos-r3-xp-0{35,66,67,70,75}
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  2214. # [22:12] <nthomas> armenzg: xp-004 needs the maintenance service installed, if you have those steps at your fingertips
  2215. # [22:12] <nthomas> got reimaged a while back
  2216. # [22:12] <armenzg> nthomas: which bug?
  2217. # [22:13] <armenzg> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReferencePlatforms/Test/WinXP#Mozilla_maintenance_service.2C_associated_registry_keys.2C_Mozilla_test_CA_root
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  2219. # [22:14] <robcee> I see android is burning and serge isn't in channel
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  2225. # [22:16] <Ms2ger> robcee, it probably isn't
  2226. # [22:16] <Ms2ger> robcee, failing to clone build/tools?
  2227. # [22:17] <robcee> Ms2ger: no, just looking at mozilla-central on tbpl
  2228. # [22:17] <robcee> I guess everything's starred so it must be ok
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  2230. # [22:18] <robcee> and it's been red all day
  2231. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> All the Android reds are bug 718251
  2232. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> They try to clone some repo they don't actually need, and then go along happily
  2233. # [22:18] <robcee> ahh
  2234. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> There's nothing actually wrong
  2235. # [22:18] <jgilbert> gotta keep things interesting somehow
  2236. # [22:18] <philor> s/all/many/
  2237. # [22:18] <robcee> I am sorry I looked :)
  2238. # [22:19] <Ms2ger> And what philor said
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  2249. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> ehsan, btw, if you want me to file followup bugs, please make sure you cc me when asking that :)
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  2251. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, why'd you reset the flags on bug 712289?
  2252. # [22:30] <cshields> ok guys, changing dns for hg public connections
  2253. # [22:30] <cshields> (internal & build connections will come in a bit)
  2254. # [22:31] <cshields> so in a few mins your hg connections will bypass cache
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  2261. # [22:35] * KaiRo didn't want to reset any flags, must be inadvertent stuff due to reloading the bug
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  2263. # [22:35] <RyanVM> cshields: ping
  2264. # [22:36] <cshields> hey
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  2266. # [22:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/62df2afae1c7 - Joe Drew - Bug 473236 - Remove executable bits from ScaledFontSkia.*. r=jrmuizel DONTBUILD
  2267. # [22:38] <cshields> RyanVM: pong
  2268. # [22:38] <RyanVM> cshields: latest push isn't showing yet, it appears
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  2270. # [22:39] <cshields> RyanVM: url?
  2271. # [22:39] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=991b1ea41b08
  2272. # [22:41] <cshields> catlee: is that related to the tm-b01 db issue? ^^
  2273. # [22:42] <cshields> RyanVM: fwiw too, your public hits are no longer cached.. the build network still is (soon to fix that too)
  2274. # [22:43] <RyanVM> ok
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  2276. # [22:45] <philor> yeah, not showing anything pending or running is tm-b01 not telling the files tbpl uses that anything is
  2277. # [22:45] <catlee> hm
  2278. # [22:45] <catlee> that should only affect completed builds
  2279. # [22:45] <catlee> oh, nm
  2280. # [22:45] <philor> really? the alerts were for pending and running
  2281. # [22:45] <catlee> it would affect penidng/running too
  2282. # [22:46] <cshields> ok.. unrelated to my changes then :)
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  2286. # [22:47] * philor gets ready for a blizzard of failures
  2287. # [22:48] <TheOne> why is trying nsIEffectiveTLDService.getBaseDomain() for "http://dyndns.org" throwing an error?
  2288. # [22:49] <TheOne> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/network/effective-tld-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIEffectiveTLDService).getBaseDomain(Components.classes["@mozilla.org/network/io-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIIOService).newURI("http://dyndns.org/", null, null));
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  2291. # [22:50] <catlee> philor: good thing I made clobberer faster then!
  2292. # [22:50] <jwir3> we're moving to git for real, or its a joke?
  2293. # [22:51] <philor> joke
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  2295. # [22:51] <jwir3> ah
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  2297. # [22:53] <Mook_as> TheOne: it appears to be because it thinks of dyndns.org as an effective TLD. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/effective_tld_names.dat#4935
  2298. # [22:53] <TheOne> Mook_as: ah, there is this list. thanks!
  2299. # [22:54] <Mook_as> amusingly, passing in -1 for aAdditionalParts works ;)
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  2302. # [22:56] <TheOne> wow
  2303. # [22:56] <Mook_as> (don't assume that will keep working, though... it feels like a bug)
  2304. # [22:57] <TheOne> Mook_as: no, I'll stick to my old regex parsing when catching an error
  2305. # [22:57] <espindola> anyone else getting parsererror from tbpl?
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  2308. # [22:58] <espindola> yes, (just noticed philor's comment)
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  2311. # [22:59] <mwu> kinetik: ping
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  2314. # [23:00] <kinetik> mwu: hi
  2315. # [23:00] <mwu> kinetik: so, in the patch for the libcubeb windows backend
  2316. # [23:00] <darktrojan> do we have a bug on rendering extremely tall .jpgs?
  2317. # [23:00] <darktrojan> 10000px+
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  2319. # [23:00] <mwu> bytes = sizeof(signed int); for CUBEB_SAMPLE_S16LE
  2320. # [23:00] <mwu> in bytes_per_frame
  2321. # [23:00] <philor> espindola: probably fixed now, but tbpl's bad about caching, force reload if it hasn't gone away
  2322. # [23:01] <mwu> kinetik: is that intentional?
  2323. # [23:01] <kinetik> mwu: that is... not right
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  2325. # [23:01] <mwu> oh ok
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  2328. # [23:01] <mwu> just making sure that's not some sort of weird windows specific thing
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  2330. # [23:02] <espindola> philor, ok. Thanks
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  2332. # [23:02] <kinetik> mwu: no, it's just wrong, thanks for pointing it out.
  2333. # [23:03] <mwu> cool
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  2338. # [23:05] <Kwan> gavin: ping
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  2347. # [23:09] <mwu> kinetik: so, interesting thing - audiotrack doesn't appear to support anything but 8bit and 16bit pcm
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  2349. # [23:10] <mwu> did we just do that conversion somewhere before?
  2350. # [23:10] * davehunt|away is now known as davehunt|mtg
  2351. # [23:10] <mwu> or rather right now, since we're not using libcubeb yet
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  2355. # [23:11] <askalski> ok, it's close to midnight, I am going to sleep
  2356. # [23:11] <askalski> bye everyone
  2357. # [23:12] <kinetik> mwu: yeah, in nsAudioStream, nsNativeAudioStream converts everything to s16 right now
  2358. # [23:12] <mwu> ahh
  2359. # [23:12] <kinetik> mwu: and i was moving to using f32 for everything in cubeb, if the platform supports it
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  2361. # [23:12] <kinetik> mwu: and otherwise convert to s16
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  2365. # [23:14] <philor> mmm, interesting, the thing I thought was smaug's unspecified "unknown orange" persisted past the backout
  2366. # [23:14] <kinetik> mwu: vorbis produces f32 where we use that (everywhere but arm), and tremor produces s16 where we use that (on arm), so converting f32->s16 on arm is really only necessary for the audio data API
  2367. # [23:15] * heycam is now known as heycam|away
  2368. # [23:15] <@smaug> philor: really ?
  2369. # [23:15] <@smaug> philor: the videocontrol thing?
  2370. # [23:15] <philor> smaug: which was the unknown?
  2371. # [23:16] <philor> test_playback, Utils is not defined
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  2373. # [23:16] <@smaug> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718411 was the unknown
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  2375. # [23:16] <philor> it's on Serge now
  2376. # [23:16] <@smaug> oh
  2377. # [23:16] <@smaug> interesting
  2378. # [23:16] <@smaug> as far as I see, it is a real bug
  2379. # [23:16] <mwu> kinetik: that explains why the vorbis testcase I have here doesn't crash
  2380. # [23:17] <Kwan> hey can we pull from ssh without an LDAP account?
  2381. # [23:17] <mwu> oh yeah, that's another thing. the code doesn't check if the backend accepted the format we asked for
  2382. # [23:17] <mwu> so if the backend returns an error, we keep marching forward anyway and crash
  2383. # [23:17] <cshields> RyanVM: anymore problems? :)
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  2386. # [23:17] <RyanVM> cshields: no sir!
  2387. # [23:17] <cshields> kwan: are you having problems pulling from http now?
  2388. # [23:18] <RyanVM> cshields: Of course, I haven't tried in the last 5 minutes either :P
  2389. # [23:18] <kinetik> mwu: which code?
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  2391. # [23:18] <mwu> uhh I had it loaded in one of these tabs
  2392. # [23:18] <cshields> RyanVM: should be all fixed for developer pulls.. build pull fix is rolling out right now
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  2394. # [23:18] <Kwan> cshields: no, do I only need to worry if I get explicit errors?
  2395. # [23:18] <mwu> kinetik: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/nsBuiltinDecoderStateMachine.cpp#657 I think
  2396. # [23:19] <mwu> well
  2397. # [23:19] <cshields> yeah, let me know if you get an error doing anything with hg.mozilla.org anytime after about :30 ago
  2398. # [23:19] <mwu> maybe something else
  2399. # [23:19] <mwu> since that should be hardcoded to s16 on arm..
  2400. # [23:19] <kinetik> mwu: oh, so nsAudioStream sets mInError when something fails, and all later calls to it should fail, so it shouldn't be crashing there
  2401. # [23:19] <Kwan> okay cool, thanks
  2402. # [23:19] <mwu> hmm
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  2404. # [23:22] <mwu> kinetik: hmm I don't have a good theory for why I'm getting cubeb_stream_start called when init fails then
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  2406. # [23:25] <kinetik> mwu: sorry, i lie, mInError isn't used in the cubeb stream wrapper, but there are mCubebStream null checks instead (unless one has been missed)
  2407. # [23:26] <kinetik> mwu: nsBufferAudioStream::Init relies on cubeb_stream_init to null the cubeb_stream* if it fails, maybe that's it?
  2408. # [23:26] <roc> hmm
  2409. # [23:27] <roc> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6ac1418daa2e had a Windows build, but it just disappeared
  2410. # [23:27] <kinetik> (and it probably shouldn't rely on that)
  2411. # [23:27] <mwu> kinetik: but if it returns an error code, it shouldn't even check cubeb_stream *
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  2413. # [23:27] <philor> roc: the db that backs the datafiles is having troubles
  2414. # [23:27] <kinetik> mwu: hm, yeah
  2415. # [23:27] <mwu> and the autoptr thing never gets touched
  2416. # [23:27] <roc> philor: ah. thanks.
  2417. # [23:28] <roc> fortunately the build seems to have completed
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  2419. # [23:28] <kinetik> both of the calls to cubeb_stream_start are protected by mCubebStream null checks
  2420. # [23:28] * kinetik is confused
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  2422. # [23:29] <mwu> gdb indicated mCubebStream was set
  2423. # [23:29] <bhearsum> why do i see a bunch of "This page is restricted" here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/element#Methods
  2424. # [23:30] <bhearsum> of course, i can't repro now...
  2425. # [23:30] <jwir3> is there any talk of mozilla.org joining the web blackout on Wed in protest of SOPA (in the USA, at least)?
  2426. # [23:30] <mwu> which makes me think maybe that autoptr wasn't set to 0 on init, but that doesn't make sense either
  2427. # [23:30] <mwu> since autoptrs are in fact set to 0 on init
  2428. # [23:32] <timeless> roc: hey
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  2430. # [23:33] <timeless> is there a way for me to (in a debugger) turn off reflow?
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  2432. # [23:33] <timeless> i have a script which is going to take forever if each time it asks for a value gecko tries to reflow stuff
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  2434. # [23:33] <timeless> i'd rather be able to turn it off until i return from a certain frame (past the problem point)
  2435. # [23:33] <MichaelKohler> hi guys, I got patches for bug 716258.. who is the right reviewer for privatebrowsing? base/content? places and tabview?
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  2438. # [23:34] <artpar> i have a variable nsCOMPtr<nsIFile> icoFile; icoFile has relevant data... how to i get the Path in some variable so i can use in sprintf ??
  2439. # [23:34] <artpar> i tried ->> nsCAutoString path;
  2440. # [23:34] <artpar> rv = icoFile->GetPath(path);
  2441. # [23:35] <artpar> but path does not get the relevant data
  2442. # [23:35] <kinetik> mwu: mCubebStream is an nsAutoRef, i assumed that'd also be initialized to null
  2443. # [23:35] <mwu> yeah it should
  2444. # [23:35] <timeless> artpar: you might want nsILocalFile
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  2446. # [23:35] <mwu> wait, nsautoref is something different
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  2448. # [23:35] <kinetik> it looks like it should be, it's using the correct trait (nsPointerRefTraits)
  2449. # [23:35] * timeless can't remember which paths are friendly and which are painful
  2450. # [23:35] <artpar> how do i use that timeless ? can you give a small hint ? i am new
  2451. # [23:36] <timeless> artpar: note that `path` is not a narrow string
  2452. # [23:36] <timeless> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsIFile.idl?mark=256-257#229
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  2454. # [23:36] <@smaug> timeless: in which case does some script cause reflow?
  2455. # [23:36] <artpar> thank you timeless, i will read that
  2456. # [23:36] <timeless> you'd want to use `GetNativePath` if you're going to use nsCAutoString
  2457. # [23:36] <@smaug> timeless: could you make some element display: none ?
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  2459. # [23:36] <timeless> smaug: somewhere near the top of http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451309
  2460. # [23:37] <timeless> smaug: well um
  2461. # [23:37] <timeless> i'm not js, i'm a debugger
  2462. # [23:37] <timeless> so if you could walk me through the debugger to make something display:none, that'd probably work :)
  2463. # [23:37] <@smaug> (irccloud is such a mess)
  2464. # [23:38] <timeless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1451318 63ff has the native frames
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  2466. # [23:39] <timeless> smaug: so, in theory i could try to make the nsDocument near line 175 display:none ?
  2467. # [23:39] <@smaug> well, the js code explicitly uses methods which do reflow ..
  2468. # [23:39] <@smaug> nsDocument can't be display: none
  2469. # [23:39] <timeless> smaug: yeah, i just complained to them about it
  2470. # [23:39] <timeless> well, ok, so not nsDocument
  2471. # [23:40] <timeless> what then :)
  2472. # [23:40] <@smaug> I have no idea what the document is, but maybe document.documentElement?
  2473. # [23:40] <@smaug> that will ofc hide everything
  2474. # [23:40] <timeless> that's fine
  2475. # [23:41] <timeless> as long as i stash a pointer to the object and instructions for twiddling the bit
  2476. # [23:41] <timeless> i can untwiddle it once the code returns from the bad frame
  2477. # [23:41] * timeless hasn't quite decided what the bad frame is precisely
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  2480. # [23:41] <timeless> at the moment, it's 240--mozjs!array_forEach
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  2484. # [23:43] <timeless> smaug: [PresShell]->mDocument->mVisible == true
  2485. # [23:43] <timeless> do we honor that? :)
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  2487. # [23:44] <@smaug> don't set it to false
  2488. # [23:44] <timeless> why not? :)
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  2490. # [23:44] <@smaug> well, it won't do what you want
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  2492. # [23:44] <@smaug> read the documentation in nsIDocument
  2493. # [23:44] * timeless is really going to have to just throw out this browser session
  2494. # [23:44] <timeless> it's hopeless
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  2497. # [23:46] <@smaug> timeless: you use irccloud actively?
  2498. # [23:47] <timeless> yes
  2499. # [23:48] <timeless> i don't really have a choice
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  2501. # [23:48] <@smaug> timeless: have you had problems with CC/GC ?
  2502. # [23:48] <timeless> i used to
  2503. # [23:48] <@smaug> ah, they have fixed something, I guess
  2504. # [23:48] <timeless> nah
  2505. # [23:48] <timeless> i think i just hit something else sooner :)
  2506. # [23:48] <@smaug> perhaps you could try http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/opettay@mozilla.com-c5240065b0fe/
  2507. # [23:49] <timeless> what does it do?
  2508. # [23:50] <timeless> note that i don't have a useful reference poin
  2509. # [23:50] <timeless> my current profile has been stuck for over a weekend
  2510. # [23:50] <@smaug> timeless: it changes CC handling quite a bit
  2511. # [23:50] * timeless wonders what mMayStartLayout does
  2512. # [23:50] <@smaug> so that CC graph is usually a lot smaller
  2513. # [23:50] <timeless> can i set that to false? :)
  2514. # [23:51] <timeless> ok, i'm going to give up on this session
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  2517. # [23:52] <timeless> so, something between me and that server has terrible bandwidth
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  2521. # [23:56] <artpar> hi timeless, i read that link, though i didnt got much, not i tried nsString path;
  2522. # [23:56] <artpar> rv = icoFile->GetPath(path);
  2523. # [23:56] <artpar> and path.get() inside _snprintf
  2524. # [23:56] <artpar> but only part of string comes
  2525. # [23:57] <artpar> and rest is cut out
  2526. # [23:57] * bhearsum is now known as bhearsum|afk
  2527. # [23:57] <timeless> artpar: you need to understand the difference between utf8 and utf16
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  2529. # [23:57] <timeless> or similar things
  2530. # [23:57] <timeless> basically in gecko we have two kinds of strings, strings which are more or less char*
  2531. # [23:57] <timeless> [nsACString]
  2532. # [23:57] <artpar> i also tried this -> LossyCopyUTF16toASCII(path, iconpath); where iconpath is nsString
  2533. # [23:57] <timeless> and thing which are more or less wchar* (or however you want to call it)
  2534. # [23:57] <timeless> [nsAString]
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  2536. # [23:58] <MichaelKohler> zpao|detached: haven't forgotten bug 558425, still haven't had a chance to look into it.. but I'm sure I'll find time this week
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  2538. # [23:58] <roc> timeless: do something in FlushPendingNotifications to exit early?
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  2540. # [23:58] <timeless> since you want to deal w/ a narrow (char*) string, you might as well just start with the ->GetNativePath(path_as_nsCString) method
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  2543. # [23:59] <artpar> ok, i will try that, thank you
  2544. # [23:59] <timeless> (technically the actual wide strings could be UCS2 or some other obscure wide string format when it comes to native files, but whatever, the point is they're more or less 16bit chars not 8bit chars)
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  2546. # [23:59] <timeless> roc: ok, next time, thanks :)
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  2549. # Session Close: Tue Jan 17 00:00:00 2012

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