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  1. # Session Start: Sun Jan 22 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <philor> Waldo: dunno whether or not -extra is supposed to work, but the mozconfig try uses is in-tree, so I know adding it to browser/config/mozconfigs/win32/nightly works
  4. # [00:01] <Jesse> RobertClaypool: can you file a bug in Core:Internationzliation ?
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  7. # [00:01] <Jesse> RobertClaypool: is this something you noticed in a perf profile?
  8. # [00:03] <RobertClaypool> No special steps other than going to bugzilla and selecting Core, then Internationalization, right?
  9. # [00:03] <philor> Waldo: oh, were you expecting tbpl to say "Win PGO"? it won't, because the jobname doesn't come from evaluating the mozconfig, and tbpl only knows from the jobname
  10. # [00:03] <Jesse> RobertClaypool: that's right
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  12. # [00:03] <Waldo> oh, hm
  13. # [00:04] <Waldo> philor: so how is it I know how the PGO builds did? the changeset is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9082a83d1a50
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  15. # [00:04] <Waldo> I have it on good authority that msvc's PGO optimizer was cracktastic on this code in the past, so I have reason to be extra-leery
  16. # [00:05] <aleth> Do XBL key event handlers automatically do a event.preventDefault(); after executing their action?
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  19. # [00:07] <Jesse> RobertClaypool: you might be intested in following or joining the MemShrink or Snappy projects. they discuss measurement (of memory use and responsiveness), troublesome areas of code, and clever solutions :)
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  21. # [00:07] <philor> edmorley: does that whatsit that prints how much memory doing PGO took only print in PGO builds, so Waldo could use that to tell him he got one?
  22. # [00:07] <Jesse> RobertClaypool: and also the Rust language, which has some neat tricks to let programmers avoid heap allocations
  23. # [00:08] <philor> personally, I avoid ever looking at Windows build logs, they choke my connection and then my browser
  24. # [00:08] <Waldo> I'd guess that 124mins is not enough time to get a full PGO build, but that is just a guess
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  26. # [00:09] <philor> seems to be a normal time for a non-PGO, yeah
  27. # [00:11] <Waldo> philor: does http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1457662 look right to you, using the in-tree mozconfigs?
  28. # [00:13] <philor> Waldo: yep, should work
  29. # [00:13] * Waldo goes to push again, then
  30. # [00:13] <philor> oh, neat, I think we broke WinXP reftests while the slaves were napping
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  32. # [00:14] <Waldo> hopefully I'll get PGO results sometime before Monday, and then I can push a reviewed patch at the start of the week or something
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  35. # [00:16] <philor> mmm, bunch of focus, maybe that's the result of an invisible hand
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  41. # [00:24] * Waldo kicks off https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3b0d90538d2b and hopes it triggers pgo properly
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  47. # [00:34] <NeilAway> Jesse: yeah, those methods should be converted to use xpcom strings
  48. # [00:35] <NeilAway> aleth: no, except in two magic cases
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  51. # [00:36] <aleth> NeilAway: Thanks. And is it possible to redirect an event which is bubbling up its chain to another element (with the bubbling continuing from there)?
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  53. # [00:38] <NeilAway> aleth: not directly, except in one magic case, but there's not much to stop you cancelling the event and dispatching a new event
  54. # [00:39] <aleth> NeilAway: To cancel, is "stopPropagation" enough?
  55. # [00:40] <NeilAway> aleth: that's all I know, smaug might know of something newer though
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  79. # [01:33] <edmorley> philor: yeah believe only PGO say that, plus values are different ie shortly after the pgo fun and games, pgo got broken and max vsize dropped from 2.9GB to 2.2 ish
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  83. # [01:37] <edmorley> philor, Waldo: string to grep for is "linker max virtual size:"
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  90. # [01:50] <tan> This inline autocomplete thing on nightly = <3
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  92. # [01:52] <kwierso> tan: I didn't think I would like it, but it's not bad, actually
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  144. # [03:24] <jwir3> what's the course of action if a module owner just doesn't seem to have time/desire to review a patch that has been posted on a bug for > 6 months?
  145. # [03:24] <jwir3> and the response from the module peer was 'the module owner needs to review this'? heh
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  149. # [03:29] <dolske> jwir3: bug #?
  150. # [03:29] <jwir3> dolske: bug 78808
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  153. # [03:31] <dolske> I'd ping him again in the bug just to be sure, then move the review to bsmith.
  154. # [03:31] <jwir3> dolske: ok. thanks
  155. # [03:31] <dolske> hmm, just JS and XULy stuff, lemme to a quick first-pass review
  156. # [03:32] <jwir3> ok
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  158. # [03:32] <bsmith> wjir3 dolske: cert manager is basically unmaintained
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  161. # [03:33] <dolske> bsmith: itym jwir3 is the new owner. :)
  162. # [03:33] <jwir3> heh
  163. # [03:34] <bsmith> I can try to find some time to review the patch but it would be better to find out why Kai hasn't reviewed it yet
  164. # [03:34] <bsmith> since I've never even looked at the cert manager code before
  165. # [03:34] <bsmith> jwer3: I will now mass-assign all cert manager bugs to you
  166. # [03:34] <bsmith> thank your for volunteering
  167. # [03:35] <bsmith> er, jwir3 ^
  168. # [03:35] <jwir3> bsmith: That's fine. We ship it as part of our product, so it seems like it should have an owner. :)
  169. # [03:35] <bsmith> jwir3: the last conversation I had about it was Asa suggesting to find a way to stop shipping it in the product
  170. # [03:35] <jwir3> If, for nothing else, than to make sure that other first patches don't go unanswered (as we might lose potentially valuable contibuters that way)
  171. # [03:36] <bsmith> Also, I met with limi before about a bunch of UI design problems with it and the result of that was "this is unfixable"
  172. # [03:37] <jwir3> bsmith: ok. is it something that we need? I mean, it seems like in TBird, for example, a cert manager would be quite useful.
  173. # [03:37] <jwir3> iow, does it need a redesign?
  174. # [03:37] <bsmith> jwir3: it needs a redesign, at best
  175. # [03:37] <dolske> it needs an initial design. :)
  176. # [03:37] <jwir3> :)
  177. # [03:37] <bsmith> IMO, we should just use the OS's cert manager
  178. # [03:37] <bsmith> but with our own root store
  179. # [03:38] <dolske> "Scott Johnson (:jwir3) (First Patch)" First patch? how can that be true?
  180. # [03:38] <jwir3> dolske: Indeed. I posted that patch back in June. :)
  181. # [03:38] <jwir3> dolske: Like the day after I was hired. :)
  182. # [03:39] <dolske> oh, hmm, I assumed it just meant "user has never attached a patch"
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  184. # [03:39] <dolske> guess it literally sticks to one's first patch.
  185. # [03:39] <jwir3> oh, I see what you mean
  186. # [03:39] <jwir3> yeah, I think it actually sticks to the first patch you submit
  187. # [03:39] <dolske> the "New To Bugzilla" thing disappears that way.
  188. # [03:40] <dolske> anyway, first patch in PSM? bold move. :)
  189. # [03:40] <jwir3> dolske: ah. yeah, well, maybe this is in case people get nostalgic, they have a reference for things they have done :)
  190. # [03:40] <jcranmer> first patch I think applies to all patches on the bug on your first patch
  191. # [03:40] <jwir3> dolske: Heh. Well, it was a UI part of PSM. :)
  192. # [03:40] <jcranmer> in other words
  193. # [03:41] <jcranmer> if bug X is the bug for which you submitted your first bu
  194. # [03:41] <jcranmer> s/bu$/patch/
  195. # [03:41] <jwir3> bsmith: Re: using the OS's cert manager, I can look into this and see what it would take to transition to this.
  196. # [03:41] <jcranmer> then all comments by you for any patch on that bug have (First Patch) added to them
  197. # [03:41] <jwir3> ah
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  200. # [03:45] <bsmith> jwir3: If you can do that, that would be great
  201. # [03:45] <edmorley> jwir3: kaie isn't CC'd btw
  202. # [03:45] <jwir3> bsmith: Sure. I'll file a bug for it and start looking into it asap.
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  204. # [03:45] <jwir3> bsmith: oh. that's rather embarassing. :|
  205. # [03:47] <dolske> eh, bugzilla fail. it finally does that by default now when someone's flagged for review.
  206. # [03:48] <bsmith> we get bugmail for review requests
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  208. # [03:49] <bsmith> jwir3: I wouldn't jump down the rabbit hole of replacing the cert manager with something new just yet
  209. # [03:49] <jwir3> bsmith: ok
  210. # [03:49] <bsmith> I will talk to the other people who are interested in what to do about cert manager and figure out what we want to do
  211. # [03:49] <jwir3> bsmith: Ok. that sounds good.
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  279. # [06:12] <WG9s> dolske: Use a bundle. Once you hve the bundle loaded it takes about 12 minutes. Still a bit of time thought but you only have to do the budle load part once at least.
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  300. # [07:10] <philor> bug 225185
  301. # [07:12] <philor> fine, it wasn't *that* funny anyway
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  305. # [07:21] <dolske> "that's the joke"
  306. # [07:23] <philor> bug 250393 is sort of funny, though, as long as you don't think about how someone will someday write their first patch for it, and get their first smackdown with it
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  311. # [07:38] <dolske> wow
  312. # [07:39] <dolske> are you triaging FF:General starting from the paleolithic end?
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  314. # [07:40] <philor> no, I needed the count of open bugs in it, so I loaded the quicksearch and stopped it after 40 or so loaded, but then a few caught my eye
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  316. # [07:41] * Mitch wonders if anyone else can't add a bookmark tag unless it already exists
  317. # [07:42] <kwierso> Mitch: ew, is the new inline autocomplete screwing it up?
  318. # [07:42] <Mitch> That's what I was thinking.
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  320. # [07:44] <kwierso> Mitch: you want to file the bug or shall I?
  321. # [07:44] <Mitch> You seem to know more about the context that broke, so you do it please. :)
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  323. # [07:45] <kwierso> Mitch: hrm, I just turned off autocomplete, and it's still screwing up...
  324. # [07:45] <kwierso> er, s/complete/fill/
  325. # [07:46] <Mitch> Where's the user-visible pref?
  326. # [07:47] <kwierso> dunno if there's a checkbox anywhere for it, but if you filter for "autofill" in about:config, you'll find the pref
  327. # [07:49] <Mitch> This is one of those abrupt behaviour changes that "people" get upset about when it's the default AND there's no proper option.
  328. # [07:50] <darktrojan> having a UI is so 2007 apparently
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  330. # [07:51] <Mitch> kwierso: Yeah. Even after a restart turning it off still causes problems.
  331. # [07:52] <philor> safe mode?
  332. # [07:52] <darktrojan> I see it too, btw
  333. # [07:52] <kwierso> Mitch: filed bug 720197
  334. # [07:52] <Mitch> kwierso: Ah, it's already reported and blocking the autofill. Oops.
  335. # [07:53] <Mitch> Bug 720066.
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  337. # [07:53] <dolske> fail
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  339. # [08:01] <philor> wtf? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8727545&tree=Try&full=1 is a reftest-no-accel, dumping the sandbox says "layersGPUAccelerated":false, and it failed tests that are fails-if(/^Windows\x20NT\x206\.1/.test(http.oscpu)&&!layersGPUAccelerated)
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  361. # [09:25] <Ms2ger> philor, thanks for starring my try push :)
  362. # [09:26] <philor> I was in the neighborhood ;)
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  364. # [09:31] <Ms2ger> And now hsivonen is reviewing my patches on a Sunday morning... Looks like a good say for me :)
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  372. # [09:54] <Mark_Capella> I've developed a patch for my first bug fix / enhancement, but the DIFF shows code changes in a module that I changed, but the changes are mixed in with mine. Is this normal / part of the change control process? Anyone?
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  374. # [09:56] <mounir> Ms2ger: who wouldn't review patches on a Sunday morning?
  375. # [09:57] <Ms2ger> Mark_Capella, that doesn't sound right
  376. # [09:58] <Mark_Capella> I pulled the mozilla-central repository, and have been doing daily pull -U 's ... I thought maybe I got someone elses recently checked in code
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  378. # [09:58] <mounir> Mark_Capella: that shouldn't happen
  379. # [09:59] <mounir> Mark_Capella: what does |hg out| prints?
  380. # [09:59] <mounir> (nothing I guess)
  381. # [09:59] <Mark_Capella> right no changes found
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  383. # [10:01] <Mark_Capella> I've got the code backed up... I thought maybe now I might have to delete the repository, and clone fresh, then re-apply my changes
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  385. # [10:04] <mounir> Mark_Capella: haven't you reverted the file by mistake?
  386. # [10:04] <mounir> or copy-pasted it?
  387. # [10:04] <mounir> Mark_Capella: I don't think deleting the repo and reclonning is the best solution
  388. # [10:04] <mounir> at worst, you can revert everything and re-add your changes
  389. # [10:04] <Mark_Capella> Please explain revert
  390. # [10:05] <mounir> |hg revert [some options] [some files]|
  391. # [10:05] <mounir> Mark_Capella: ^
  392. # [10:05] <mounir> if you know what your changes are and you think you will be able to re-do them easily, you can do:
  393. # [10:05] <mounir> hg revert -a --no-backup
  394. # [10:05] <mounir> then redo your changes
  395. # [10:05] <Mark_Capella> ok .... checking into it - thanks mounir
  396. # [10:05] <mounir> hg diff should give only your changes after that
  397. # [10:06] <Ms2ger> But do save hg diff first
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  400. # [10:09] <Mark_Capella> Assuming you mean save by | hg diff -p -U 8 > SAVEFILE |
  401. # [10:09] <mounir> Mark_Capella: yes
  402. # [10:09] <mounir> Mark_Capella: you might want to add some options to your ~/.hgrc to not have to always type -p -U 8 though ;)
  403. # [10:10] <Mark_Capella> I'll learn that next :-P
  404. # [10:11] <mounir> Mark_Capella: put that in your "to read" list: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ :)
  405. # [10:12] <Mark_Capella> Got it bookmarked .... than after this is straightened out and DIFF is clean, and MAKE is good, I post the patch to the bug (assigned to me earlier) and locate a reviewer type person
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  410. # [10:15] <mounir> Mark_Capella: what's the bug?
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  412. # [10:16] <Mark_Capella> Bug 283685 - Firefox should display the current profile name somewhere
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  414. # [10:16] <mounir> oh, that might be cool :)
  415. # [10:17] <Mark_Capella> (It's an enhancement actually)
  416. # [10:17] <mounir> we call everything bug here ;)
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  418. # [10:18] <Mark_Capella> I thought it'd be a good start for my first try, not toooooo intensive a change, it's done and seems to work, >kewl<
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  430. # [10:25] <Unfocused> Mark_Capella: out of curiosity, where are you adding the profile name? cos that bug has some suggestions that i know won't pass review
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  433. # [10:27] <Mark_Capella> Well ... I diverged from the final method ... I added a group box to the top of the Tools / Options / General page displaying "Your current profile is [zzzz]"
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  436. # [10:29] <Mark_Capella> (Info only)
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  439. # [10:30] <Unfocused> i think you should get someone from the UX team to look at that bug - it's not something that fits in the options dialog, IMO (better suited for about:support, but the UX team may have other ideas)
  440. # [10:31] <Unfocused> if you attach a screenshot of that, and request ui-review from ux-review@mozilla.com, someone on that team will see it
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  444. # [10:33] <Mark_Capella> Allright ... let's try! I liked where I placed it as it shows the profile name along with the options / preferences associated ... but I'll go the ux-review way.
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  458. # [10:43] <Mark_Capella> Off went the eMail ... fingers crossed ... :-o
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  529. # [11:34] <andrei> Hello, everyone! Anyone here interested in joining GSOC 2012?
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  538. # [11:45] <aleth> To simulate a cursor up/down keypress in the browser, what DOM element do I need to dispatch the event to? ('body' doesn't seem to work)
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  540. # [11:46] <aleth> (just using this as an example - my problem isn't scrolling ;) )
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  544. # [11:52] <NeilAway> aleth: normally I think you're supposed to dispatch it to the focused element
  545. # [11:53] <cmr> Yeah, and then it bubbles up
  546. # [11:53] <NeilAway> aleth: if the element you want to dispatch to isn't focused, then maybe you need to focus it first
  547. # [11:53] <aleth> NeilAway: but if that element was focused I wouldn't have to do it ;)
  548. # [11:53] <cmr> heh
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  550. # [11:55] <aleth> NeilAway: I'll give it a try, though it seems surprising that event propagation depends on focus (other than as a starting point for events)
  551. # [11:57] <NeilAway> aleth: keyboard events are special though
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  558. # [12:06] <aleth> NeilAway: Thanks! That did the trick!
  559. # [12:06] <edmorley> Cwiiis: sorry, there seem to be reftest crashes from your push inwards
  560. # [12:06] <aleth> NeilAway: How are keyboard events special by the way?
  561. # [12:06] <edmorley> s/inwards/onwards/
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  565. # [12:14] <lurking_work> has anyone noticed that m-c tbpl, maybe others, are leaking/using alot of memory in past few days when left up for several hours
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  569. # [12:28] <NeilAway> aleth: in that they are always directed at the focused element
  570. # [12:29] <NeilAway> aleth: in fact, the point of focus is to be where keyboard events are dispatched to
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  590. # [13:14] <Callek> .....tree closure time
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  603. # [13:34] <aleth> NeilAway: Right, of course. Thanks again!
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  616. # [13:59] <Callek> edmorley: tree-reopened
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  619. # [14:04] <edmorley> Callek: thanks :-)
  620. # [14:05] <Callek> edmorley: there may need to be some jobs re-triggered, I'm not doing that
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  667. # [15:50] <edmorley> Hi Ms2ger :-)
  668. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Morning edmorley
  669. # [15:51] <Ms2ger> (Yes, morning, I just had breakfast)
  670. # [15:53] <edmorley> hehe
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  672. # [15:53] <edmorley> hmm we're still building nightlies for Birch
  673. # [15:54] <edmorley> wonder how many other trees are unnecessarily churning out builds
  674. # [15:55] <Ms2ger> services-central
  675. # [15:55] <Ms2ger> a couple of the twigs
  676. # [15:55] <Ms2ger> 3.6
  677. # [15:56] <Callek> edmorley: "unnecessarily"?
  678. # [15:56] <edmorley> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Birch&noignore=1
  679. # [15:57] <edmorley> that's a fair amount of machine time
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  681. # [15:57] <Ms2ger> Looks like normal Android colours too
  682. # [15:57] <edmorley> ha
  683. # [15:57] <edmorley> many of those have been fixed on m-c since
  684. # [15:58] <edmorley> only native b-c R2 R3 are permaorange now
  685. # [15:58] <Callek> edmorley: oooo just android eating up time?
  686. # [15:58] <Callek> edmorley: yea I can say that sounds like unnecessary and a bug
  687. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> Hah, Jägermonkey
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  689. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Alder&noignore=1
  690. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> "Fix Windows build"
  691. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> Still only one green build, and it's on OSX
  692. # [16:00] <Callek> alder needs a clobber
  693. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> Go for it
  694. # [16:01] <edmorley> done
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  700. # [16:14] <protz> I'm getting errors in mozilla/nss/freebl/Linux_SINGLE_SHLIB/
  701. # [16:14] <protz> mozilla/security/nss/lib/freebl/rsa.c:1039: undefined reference to `PR_NewLock_stub'
  702. # [16:14] <protz> zillions of undefined references follow
  703. # [16:14] <protz> does that ring a bell for anyone?
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  713. # [16:19] <smontagu> protz: I got that this morning
  714. # [16:19] <smontagu> clobbering nss was sufficient
  715. # [16:19] <smontagu> (sorry if that's too late to help)\
  716. # [16:20] <protz> smontagu: I've clobbered everything, and now I'm getting OSError: [Errno 17] File exists: '../dist'
  717. # [16:20] <protz> in nsinstall.py
  718. # [16:20] <protz> so I can't even start building stuff :-/
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  721. # [16:20] <smontagu> :S
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  723. # [16:21] <protz> huh
  724. # [16:21] <protz> trying again the build seems to move on doing stuff
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  799. # [17:18] <Bas> How do I get leak/bloat statistics on a normal OS X m-c build?
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  803. # [17:21] <jcranmer|away> XPCOM_LEAK_LOG ?
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  805. # [17:22] <Bas> jcranmer|away: Sounds like that might be it! Much appreciated!
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  840. # [17:45] <philor> edmorley: closest to an easy way I've found is two windows, and filter for "hidden" in the one that already has the right stuff hidden
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  844. # [17:47] <philor> there's probably some smart way to write a little Python to compare https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getHiddenBuilderNames.php?branch=mozilla-central and the version for the target tree, but I don't do smart way
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  852. # [17:50] * Ms2ger tries that
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  864. # [18:03] <Ms2ger> philor, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1458652
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  872. # [18:06] <philor> thx!
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  874. # [18:06] <philor> so much crap
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  876. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> lol, jetpack
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  878. # [18:08] <philor> and valgrind
  879. # [18:08] <philor> and debug Android
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  883. # [18:09] <philor> "you added three assertions to this reftest, back out now! what assertion? well, you cannot know that, but they must have been there, in the not-log!"
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  885. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> We run that? :/
  886. # [18:10] <philor> no, that's the best part!
  887. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> No we're hiding non-existent tests?
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  889. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> s/No/So/
  890. # [18:11] <philor> but only a third of them, one reftests but not the other and not crash, which at the time was apparently still singular
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  892. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> Sounds so like us, doesn't it?
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  916. # [18:21] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getBuilderHistory.php?name=mozilla-central_tegra_android-debug_test-reftest-1 is also pretty classy UI
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  918. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> Lovely
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  920. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Especially the dates
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  931. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> philor, https://hg.mozilla.org/users/Ms2ger_gmail.com/tools/file/c61a8c07d1e4/hiddencmp.py if you ever need it
  932. # [18:51] <philor> I'm bound to, thanks!
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  935. # [18:56] <philor> I seem to have been a little over-optimistic in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694772#c312
  936. # [19:00] <philor> must have been an awesome week, though, when that little minor thing was top-fail
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  942. # [19:13] <philor> edmorley: did you clobber Android on m-i already?
  943. # [19:13] <edmorley> ah, forgot, whoops
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  945. # [19:14] <philor> I'll get it
  946. # [19:14] <edmorley> thanks
  947. # [19:14] <edmorley> least clobberer is a bit more pleasant to use now :-)
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  949. # [19:15] <philor> though for some reason inbound isn't nearly as snappy as some branches
  950. # [19:15] <philor> probably because it builds more, so it uses more slaves, so it hits some critical number
  951. # [19:16] <edmorley> that doesn't sound like us at all...
  952. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> No comment :)
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  1015. # [20:59] <evilpie> i am understanding this right, we couldn't hook up auto-complete to the awesomebar, because of some timing problems or something?
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  1022. # [21:14] <jfkthame> philor: i see you're even starring tryserver jobs for me now - thanks! :)
  1023. # [21:15] * philor sings a bit of "Where the builds are, [orange] waits for me"
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  1025. # [21:15] <philor> thank your lucky stars, with the mic turned off...
  1026. # [21:16] <jfkthame> yes, well, you made sure i have plenty of lucky stars
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  1030. # [21:20] <ttaubert> rebuilding on try does not seem to work :(
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  1032. # [21:20] <ttaubert> is that known?
  1033. # [21:21] <philor> ttaubert: bug 720241
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  1035. # [21:21] <ttaubert> thx
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  1037. # [21:22] <philor> given the timing, I blame hg.m.o, but then, I blame it when I stub my toe, these days
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  1039. # [21:24] <Bas> Huh, what am I doing wrong on mac if I build FF there, but I can't seem to give the profile manager focus so I can type in it?
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  1042. # [21:27] <Mossop> Bas: You are probably running dist/bin/firefox rather than dist/Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox
  1043. # [21:27] <Bas> Mossop: I am, I can't do that?
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  1045. # [21:28] <Mossop> Nope
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  1047. # [21:28] <Bas> This is such a sad OS :) Okay, thanks a lot :)
  1048. # [21:28] <Mossop> OSX requires apps to be running out of app bundles in order to work properly
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  1050. # [21:30] <Bas> That did the trick! :) Much appreciated.
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  1055. # [21:33] <hub> Bas: it is not "sad" it is just like on UNIX most program hardcode the prefix
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  1057. # [21:33] <hub> Bas: except that it is relocatable here
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  1059. # [21:34] <Bas> hub: I have no idea except that I can run a program, and it mysteriously doesn't have focus, and there's no obvious cause as to why :p
  1060. # [21:34] <Bas> Which seems a silly feature.
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  1140. # [23:07] <edmorley> !seen mano
  1141. # [23:07] <firebot> mano was last seen 5 days, 8 hours, 38 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying 'as in, it completely relies on the prototypes design, just with a header.' in #developers.
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  1157. # [23:21] <edmorley> thanks philor
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  1166. # [23:24] <philor> np
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  1172. # [23:33] <edmorley> huh, just found about:tracing in Chrome
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  1174. # [23:33] <edmorley> didn't realise they had that
  1175. # [23:33] <@smaug> edmorley: what does that tell?
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  1180. # [23:36] <edmorley> smaug: profiling http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/trace-event-profiling-tool
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  1183. # [23:37] <edmorley> seems a little rudimentary at present
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  1185. # [23:37] <BenWa> edmorley: Here's a sample of the built in profiler we're working on
  1186. # [23:37] <BenWa> http://varium.fantasytalesonline.com/cleopatra/?report=AMIfv96M3X2ql5AOZIX9zieyKiTZTbPEyRwGlYLQ_lBPxNkbgAuA3uwE942LY5XfO2yZT2zRTBrbBXOjuullZ32vnIbOmbW128gimaBqcbH5cw7XPUGmqGKKTUiX2zlpw0Ne6wqkxq3stLtVxIOhb6BGI8e_agBHtQ
  1187. # [23:38] <BenWa> This profile for example shows that we're blocking the main thread for 2 secs loading font on a first page load
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  1193. # [23:41] <edmorley> BenWa: looking good :-)
  1194. # [23:41] <BenWa> Thanks
  1195. # [23:41] <edmorley> the best viewed in netscape + choice of refresh image are a nice touch ;-)
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  1197. # [23:42] <BenWa> haha, don't let that distract you :P
  1198. # [23:42] <khuey> gah
  1199. # [23:43] * khuey wonders if our travel people have pagers that respond to blocking bugs
  1200. # [23:45] <edmorley> last minute flights?
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