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- # Session Start: Mon Jan 23 00:00:01 2012
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:02] <khuey> nah they decided not to pay for my hotel
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- # [00:03] <mcpherrin> Does anybody know offhand what portion of linux firefox users are 64 bit?
- # [00:03] <derf> khuey: You got bit by the Egencia card change, too, huh?
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- # [00:06] <edmorley> mcpherrin: Linux_x86-gcc3 537863 vs Linux_x86_64-gcc3 299309 on 21st Firefox for firefox 9
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- # [00:07] <edmorley> mcpherrin: (only public metrics page is https://metrics.mozilla.com/stats/firefox.shtml that I've ever been able to find)
- # [00:07] <mcpherrin> edmorley: Thanks
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- # [00:09] <edmorley> s/21st Firefox/21st January/
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- # [00:09] <edmorley> time for an early night methinks
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- # [00:54] <ttaubert> what exactly leads to maxheaps/allocs increase in debug builds? I have a patch that increases these values on all platforms by ~5% but I don't understand it since it's a JS only patch...
- # [00:55] <ttaubert> (besides some makefile additions)
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- # [01:14] <lurking> Something is leaking or not being cleaned up in m-c tbpl - this is m-c with browser open ~12hrs or so..., My Internet is too slow tonight to start looking for regression possibility - anyone else seeing this ?
- # [01:14] <lurking> http://pastebin.com/tTLgNVth
- # [01:14] * njn just got bit by JS's "you can't put the return value in a |return| statement on the next line", grr
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- # [01:15] <njn> stupid semicolon insertion
- # [01:15] <lurking> Note the massive use of mjit - tested today at work on 9.0.1 and I don't see mjit hanging around, growing
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- # [01:20] <njn> lurking; bug 693016
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- # [01:22] <lurking> ok, thanks - but this is new, usually it will stay !11 to 13 meg, with no mjit showing at all - so I think this is more recent
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- # [01:30] <lurking> I added a comment, and usage snapshot to bug - thanks again - will try to regress test tomorrow
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- # [02:52] <edmorley> um yeah :-/
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- # [03:44] <reuben> hm, does idl generate Get/Set for C++ and get/set for JS?
- # [03:44] <biesi> yes for C++. for JS it just generates property getters/setters
- # [03:45] <biesi> so you just access "object.property"
- # [03:45] <reuben> oh nvm
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- # [04:16] <reuben> aaargh, there's too much code involved in about: protocol handling!!!
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- # [04:21] <biesi> reuben, hey, it's much better than, say, http!
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- # [06:27] <philor> nah, attaching
- # [06:28] <philor> heh, that might have been better than the ancient Kid Rock I was listening to instead
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- # [08:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4e12e9a68795 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 719389. (Av1) Fix "#ifdef MOZ_WINSDK_TARGETVER >= MOZ_NTDDI_LONGHORN" from bug 441197. r=khuey.
- # [08:10] <Mavericks> hello all
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- # [08:11] <Mavericks> i've been thinking about this today morning. almost forgot to mention it here and recalled it just a a minute ago. not sure if this has already been considered
- # [08:13] <jdm> Mavericks: eh?
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- # [08:14] <Mook> it might have; but since we won't know unless you say what it is, might as well do it. (well, unless you feel like reading through all the mailing lists and the irc logs...)
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- # [08:15] <Mavericks> jdm: give me a minute. i'm composing my message
- # [08:15] <jdm> ok, sure
- # [08:16] <Mavericks> Mook: haha
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- # [08:19] <Mavericks> http://mibpaste.com/N9haic
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- # [08:20] <Mavericks> i've a feeling that idea might already be considered. if so, i'm interested to know thoughts on it
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- # [08:21] <Mavericks> if not, eager to know thoughts on such an idea
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- # [08:23] <Unfocused> Mavericks: the idea has been thrown around a few times before, but i don't know how much serious thought has been put into implementing it. there are the usual security/maintenance/infrastructure concerns, of course
- # [08:24] <jdm> Mavericks: https://github.com/jdm/foxinabox
- # [08:24] <Unfocused> there's a pre-built VM floating around somewhere, that people can download and use
- # [08:24] <Unfocused> oh, thats probably what i'm thinking of :)
- # [08:24] <jdm> granted, that's a very basic and underpowered machine
- # [08:24] <jdm> it's better for regression testing than real development
- # [08:25] * Unfocused foods
- # [08:26] <jdm> oh, I didn't read your suggestion close enough
- # [08:26] <jdm> I doubt that there would be enough usage to justify a shared environment like that
- # [08:27] * Mook suspects there would not be enough resources to host those machines, given the state tinderboxen are in
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- # [08:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/758005504cab - Mike Hommey - Bug 683127 part 12 - Enable the new linker on Android native UI. r=khuey
- # [08:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fd8fc492279c - Mike Hommey - Fixup for bug 683127 part 11 to properly load sqlite3. rs=tbsaunde
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- # [08:55] <glazou> bonjour
- # [08:55] <jdm> salut
- # [08:56] <darktrojan> \o.
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- # [09:07] <Mavericks> Unfocused: jdm : justification's very easy well not so from the cost of creating such an opportunity
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- # [09:08] <Mavericks> benefits are obvious. i can see many people chip in the language they know, understand and who knows probably learn from it. a nice tutorial would help
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- # [09:08] <jdm> If only a nice tutorial were possible.
- # [09:09] <Mavericks> on using such a shared environment, vm or instructions to follow for fair use, and if found violating rules banned etc implementation wise , yes it could be tough
- # [09:09] <Mavericks> jdm: heh
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- # [09:10] <Mavericks> getting bogged down with minor issues - well minor is relative to the person - instead of real development's major issue for some who're interested. i think dev. efforts could sped up by multi,million ,or whichever suits
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- # [09:11] <cmr> It's really not that much trouble to get a dev env setup, IMO
- # [09:11] <Mavericks> fold. may be a test basis or a pilot project for set # of people/users could give useful information on sustainability, expectations, demand etc
- # [09:14] <jdm> Mavericks: I don't expect that a shared environment will ever be particularly viable.
- # [09:15] <jdm> Mavericks: a downloadable VM is much more likely - I linked to one that I created, earlier.
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- # [09:23] <Mavericks> cmr: opening it up for public's and hoping it doesn't get abused's tough with crooks and users with crooked mentality. i've this gut feeling positives/advantages outweigh the negatives from it - hmmm, may be sandboxing could help
- # [09:24] <Mavericks> cmr: that's true. i'm looking at 100% possibility of having no trouble
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- # [09:25] <Mavericks> cmr: easy for me and might not be for some others. then again there are ones who know it's easy, did the setup, but either don't have the time or energy to do it from scratch for any reasonable reason or not
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- # [09:27] <Mavericks> definitely debatable. thinking about it. a survey on how many all over the world felt it easier to get the dev env setup would be nice with some serious stats.
- # [09:27] <cmr> All the stats in the world won't make the resources for a shared env like that magically appear
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- # [09:27] <Mavericks> agreed
- # [09:28] <Mavericks> it could be a start assuming survey's worth in first place
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- # [09:32] <Mavericks> Unfocused: instead of a pre-built vm. it's nice too as long as it isn't too big of a file. well that's not an issue either. one of those chrome notebooks which has a login and lets assume that machine's at a data center in arizona or somewhere, someone could just login or not and start contributing,
- # [09:33] <Mavericks> if power /network outage happens, no problems, session's saved, or recovery happens, session resumed later etc
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- # [09:33] <Mavericks> for sure, it's not as easy as I say it but it's happening and doable
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- # [10:07] <Yoric> Gasp. 2h lost on a forgotten |return|.
- # [10:07] * Yoric bashes head against wall.
- # [10:07] * Yoric hopes that we will have static analysis for JS one of these days.
- # [10:08] <mounir> Yoric: need help to kill yourself? :)
- # [10:08] <Yoric> :)
- # [10:08] <cmr> Almost as bad as 2h lost on mixing up loop variables.
- # [10:09] <cmr> i and j get real tricky sometimes..
- # [10:13] <Ms2ger> It's more fun if you use i for two nested loops
- # [10:14] <cmr> heh
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- # [10:16] <Unfocused> Mavericks: you're preaching to the choir :) i'd love to see such a thing set up, but it's not up to me, and it's not something i can do
- # [10:17] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: that's one time that let can actually save you :-)
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- # [10:17] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, or using C *gasp*
- # [10:18] <Yoric> mounir: I think that JS gives me all the help I need on that front, thanks.
- # [10:21] <Mavericks> Unfocused: oh, oops sorry about that. got a little carried away. I'm just concerned about the costs to do it\
- # [10:21] <Unfocused> :)
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- # [10:22] <Mavericks> Unfocused: if a neat little document that explains how to set it up with all the constraints, references, help stuff would be nice. or a small test-basis project for stipulated time could give useful info. of its impact.
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- # [10:32] <Mavericks> Unfocused: an ad-supported (atleast less annoying ones which's again relative :| ) model could do away with costs. yea, would be nice to see such thing setup tho.
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- # [10:38] <Unfocused> i doubt that would offset the cost of setting up the ads
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- # [10:47] <Mavericks> yea. thanks Unfocused , jdm and cmr for answering my query
- # [10:47] <Mavericks> gotta go now
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- # [10:58] <Yoric> On the other hand, investing a few lines of code into something that lets me print useful traces for asynchronous JavaScript was A Good Thing (tm).
- # [10:59] <whimboo> smaug: ping
- # [10:59] <@smaug> whimboo: pong
- # [11:00] <whimboo> smaug: hey, i wonder if you could ask for approval of the focus manager fix yourself and give the risk assessment
- # [11:00] <@smaug> ah, sorry, forgot to update that bug
- # [11:03] <whimboo> smaug: while talking about it, could you also explain the risk for fx 10? we really want to have it there and having a better description from you would probably help
- # [11:04] <@smaug> whimboo: added a comment
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- # [11:05] <whimboo> smaug: thanks! Lets see if we will be lucky
- # [11:06] <smontagu> Ms2ger: do you read every patch and try checkin?
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- # [11:07] <Ms2ger> smontagu, roughly every m-c checkin, and I skim over try pushes regularly
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- # [11:10] <darktrojan> he has so many try pushes himself that he can't help but notice
- # [11:13] <Cwiiis> for the crash tests on tbpl on mobile, can you see the logcat from before the crash? Or even the partial stack-trace? All it seems to be telling me is that it crashed...
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- # [11:21] <Ms2ger> darktrojan, pff
- # [11:21] <darktrojan> :)
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- # [11:25] <mfinkle> Cwiiis, you might be able to get access to one of the tinderbox machines
- # [11:25] <mfinkle> jmaher would know more, when he comes online
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- # [11:34] <smontagu> what should I put for "Risk for taking this patch", viz. bug 705407 on aurora?
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- # [11:35] <smontagu> nor why "infallible but liable to crash" is a good thing
- # [11:36] <andrei> are you talking about the windows version?
- # [11:36] <smontagu> to me it sounds like legalizing theft to reduce the crime statistics
- # [11:36] <smontagu> andrei: the patch is cross-platform
- # [11:36] <Ms2ger> smontagu, better than fallible and still going to crash somewhere randomly
- # [11:37] <Ms2ger> Risks: none, IMO
- # [11:38] <Ms2ger> Random code of the day: #if defined(mips) || defined(__mips__) || defined(MIPS) || defined(_MIPS_)
- # [11:39] <cmr> :|
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- # [11:46] <andrei> ehum, thanks. does the windows version still crash after being build with msvc?
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- # [11:50] <smontagu> andrei: oh, sorry, was that to me? someone tested a try build on windows and said it didn't crash (or rather that it crashed somewhere else) -- bug 705407 comment 10
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- # [11:58] <andrei> yes, also, strange
- # [11:58] <andrei> let me run it again and see where it crashes
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- # [12:04] <andrei> it's line 5464 in jsobj.cpp
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- # [12:28] <Unfocused> edmorley: pretty much just that. there's some high-level overlap, but the data collected is very different
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- # [14:28] <KaiRo> heh, MS apologizes for IE6 - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1209712
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- # [14:32] <glob> KaiRo, page broken :( "current_user is not defined"
- # [14:32] <glob> (javascript error, nightly and chrome)
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- # [14:35] <KaiRo> glob: bah, if that's broken for someone not logged in, a bug should be reported against diaspora - wherever that is to be done
- # [14:35] <mauke> I don't even get an error, just a blank page
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- # [14:36] <lurking> blank page here also
- # [14:36] <KaiRo> glob: and yes, it's that poster, just that in the photo in diaspora, there's a gux standing next to it and reading it who wears a Firefox t-shirt :)
- # [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/42368fe44c8c - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
- # [14:36] <KaiRo> s/gux/guy
- # [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/946022ef981f - Robert Strong - Bug 720016 - warning when compiling the maintenance service - swprintf takes a count parameter. r=bbondy
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- # [14:40] <glob> reported; http://getsatisfaction.com/diaspora/topics/_current_user_is_not_defined_javascript_error
- # [14:40] <KaiRo> glob: cool, thanks
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- # [14:41] * KaiRo is also seeing a blank page in a browser that isn't logged in
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- # [14:42] <Callek> bah I can't do "I'm seeing this too" with browserID
- # [14:42] <Callek> and I don't have an openID
- # [14:43] <Callek> (I don't want to link google/facebook with diaspora)
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- # [14:49] <MarcoZ> KaiRo: Diaspora? Is *anyone* actually using it?
- # [14:49] <tbsaunde> MarcoZ: clearly he is ;-)
- # [14:50] <tbsaunde> thus yes
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- # [14:51] <MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Well, KaiRo appears to be the first person I know who is actually using it for longer than just for looking at it briefly. Astonishing. ;)
- # [14:52] <glob> MarcoZ, i heard that it's broken :P
- # [14:52] <Callek> MarcoZ: kairo also cares about the privacy/ownability concerns over Facebook/Google+ fwiw
- # [14:52] <Callek> I however care that someone actually reads my stuff :-P
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- # [14:54] <MarcoZ> Callek: Yeah same here. Although I'm on FB, but not G+.
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- # [14:54] <Callek> well I have a G+ but I never use it
- # [14:54] <Callek> mostly for the same reasons :-)
- # [14:54] <MarcoZ> glob: That's what I heard, too. :)
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- # [15:00] * glandium is neither on FB nor G+, that solves all problems
- # [15:01] <lurking> glandium: +1
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- # [15:01] <glandium> and not on twitter either
- # [15:03] <MarcoZ> Ah, AutoComplete got re-enabled recently. Was starting to wonder why my screen reader is so talkative while I type. ;)
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- # [15:18] <MarcoZ> Do the Canadians have a public holiday today or something?
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- # [15:20] <Standard8> MarcoZ: nafaik, and I've seen some of them coming online
- # [15:20] <lurking> MarcoZ: not according to Google for holidays in Canada
- # [15:21] <KaiRo> Callek: well, getsatisfaction is not diaspora, so you wouldn't link any account with diaspora itself
- # [15:21] <Callek> fair
- # [15:22] <KaiRo> glandium: I'm also neither on FB nor G+ nor twitter - but I'm casually checking diaspora, mostly for the reason of me wanting a decentralized network to succeed
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- # [15:28] <edmorley> !seen bent
- # [15:28] <firebot> bent was last seen 2 days, 13 hours, 54 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying 'but i don't think we do' in #b2g.
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- # [15:29] <vingtetun> does anyone else have an error when compiling m-c with gcc 4.4? http://pastebin.com/DEECn2Ri
- # [15:30] <khuey> edmorley: what do you need from bent?
- # [15:30] <khuey> Pike: it's on my list for today
- # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Busted again?
- # [15:30] <edmorley> yup
- # [15:30] <edmorley> khuey: I tend to see if someone is present in #developers / do a !seen before backing out
- # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Back out and revoke his commit access
- # [15:30] <edmorley> I imagine it's a qref fail
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- # [15:31] <Ms2ger> It's certainly fail
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- # [15:33] <khuey> edmorley: he's on it
- # [15:33] <edmorley> already done
- # [15:33] <edmorley> (sorry)
- # [15:33] <Ms2ger> Nothing to apologize for, he could have testes
- # [15:33] <Ms2ger> tested, even
- # [15:34] <hsivonen> how do I tell whether something in m-c is part of XULRunner, SeaMonkey and Thunderbird?
- # [15:34] <hsivonen> this time http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/feeds/nsScriptableUnescapeHTML.cpp
- # [15:34] <glandium> vingtetun: android builds are using gcc 4.4, and they don't get that
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- # [15:35] <khuey> hmm
- # [15:36] <khuey> who is awake that knows things about webidl
- # [15:36] <@smaug> heycam|away just pretends to sleep ^^
- # [15:36] <vingtetun> glandium: it could be my version of gcc specifically (i have done a clobber already and there is nothing in my patch queue)
- # [15:36] <hsivonen> I'm trying to figure out if I should put functionality for XULRunner/Thunderbird/extensions in nsScriptableUnescapeHTML or if I should create a new set of nsIFoo.h/nsFoo.h/nsFoo.cpp
- # [15:36] <protz> hsivonen: IIRC mailnews has its own feed code, and doesn't use the toolkit one
- # [15:36] <hsivonen> protz: but does it include the toolkit code in the build_
- # [15:37] <glandium> khuey: ted?
- # [15:37] <protz> Standard8: ^^
- # [15:37] <khuey> glandium: hi?
- # [15:37] <khuey> oh
- # [15:37] <khuey> hmm
- # [15:37] <khuey> not sure
- # [15:37] <protz> hsivonen: bug 450543 (for switching mailnews to using the toolkit code for feed parsing)
- # [15:38] <protz> hsivonen: comm-central builds the entirety of mozilla-central as part of its build, yes, including the toolkit/ directory (I'm not I understand your question)
- # [15:38] <hsivonen> protz: does XULRunner include everything under toolkit/, too?
- # [15:39] <protz> hsivonen: I'm not so sure about that, but I would tend to say yes
- # [15:39] <protz> bsmedberg may know
- # [15:39] <hsivonen> protz: ok.
- # [15:40] <hsivonen> though maybe it's poor form to add stuff to nsScriptableUnescapeHTML in any case...
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- # [15:44] <hsivonen> nsIFormatConverter is sad
- # [15:44] <khuey> many of our interfaces are
- # [15:47] <hsivonen> So do I add an aptly-named nsIFoo.idl/nsFoo.h/nsFoo.cpp set or do I add non-feed functionality to nsScriptableUnescapeHTML...
- # [15:47] <hsivonen> smaug: which way will pass review better?
- # [15:48] <hsivonen> smaug: this is to make it possible for extensions and XULRunner external components to call a method that's on nsContentUtils and is thus Gecko-private otherwise
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- # [15:49] <hsivonen> maybe I should download a XULRunner SDK to see if nsIScriptableUnescapeHTML is supported
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- # [15:54] <hsivonen> does XPIDL support optional arguments?
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- # [15:56] <khuey> hsivonen: yes
- # [15:56] <Ms2ger> [optional] in foo
- # [15:57] <hsivonen> thanks
- # [15:57] <hsivonen> I guess I'll add optional arguments to nsIScriptableUnescapeHTML::Unescape
- # [15:57] <hsivonen> which is incredibly badly named, but that's what we have
- # [15:58] <hsivonen> nsIScriptableUnescapeHTML.h is in the XULRunner SDK
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- # [15:59] <Ms2ger> unsigned long
- # [15:59] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: thanks
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- # [16:00] <vingtetun> hsivonen: time for a quick question about l20n?
- # [16:00] <hsivonen> vingtetun: ok
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- # [16:01] <vingtetun> do you prefer <div l10n-id="foo"> or <div data-l10n_id="foo"> ?
- # [16:01] <hsivonen> vingtetun: l10n-id
- # [16:01] <vingtetun> my question is mostly about the data- prefix, not the name of the attribute
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- # [16:02] <hsivonen> vingtetun: using data- for this would be abuse of data-*
- # [16:02] <hsivonen> vingtetun: since this isn't for a page-provided script lib but for a Web engine-provided feature
- # [16:02] <vingtetun> right
- # [16:02] <hsivonen> vingtetun: also, underscores are not HTML naming style
- # [16:02] <mounir> hsivonen: then that should be x-l10n-id
- # [16:03] <Ms2ger> It definitely shouldn't start with x-
- # [16:03] <vingtetun> but until it is provided by the web engine, should we use data- since it will be provided by a page script
- # [16:03] <hsivonen> mounir: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/vendor-prefixes/
- # [16:03] <hsivonen> vingtetun: if it's provided by a script, then data-*, sure
- # [16:03] <hsivonen> vingtetun: but with hyphens instead of underscores preferably
- # [16:03] <mounir> hsivonen: oh, indeed, I shouldn't have point that to you ;)
- # [16:04] <vingtetun> hsivonen: agreed for the hyphens
- # [16:05] <vingtetun> thanks for the answer
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- # [16:05] <vingtetun> Pike: just to keep you up, see the above discussion.
- # [16:06] <hsivonen> vingtetun: you're welcome
- # [16:06] <vingtetun> gandalf: you too ;)
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- # [16:06] <gandalf> vingtetun: mhm
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- # [16:07] <gandalf> hsivonen: so you'd recommend us to go for x-l10n-id, x-l10n-args, x-l10n-attrs and x-l10n-path ?
- # [16:08] <hsivonen> gandalf: I don't recommend x-
- # [16:08] <gandalf> ah, ok
- # [16:08] <Pike> nope, I read that as data-l10n-id for the in-content shim library
- # [16:08] <hsivonen> gandalf: I recommend l10n-* for a platform feature and data-l10n-* for a script library feature
- # [16:08] <gandalf> so, you recommend us to stick to l10n-*
- # [16:08] <Pike> and to go for l10n-id as soon as we have a gecko-level implementation?
- # [16:09] <gandalf> hmm, ok, understood, this will make it a bit harder to write tests and tutorials, but if that's more correct, I'm ok with that.
- # [16:09] <gandalf> what should we do for B2G/Jetpack?
- # [16:09] <gandalf> data-l10n-* or l10n-* ?
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- # [16:10] <gandalf> btw. here's my complete API proposal for l20n-xml feature set http://zbraniecki.github.com/l20n/
- # [16:10] <Pike> gandalf: data-l10n- for now, I think
- # [16:10] <gandalf> ok
- # [16:10] <ted> vingtetun: yeah, i hit that same compiler error (ubuntu, right?)
- # [16:10] <ted> i just installed gcc 4.5 and moved on with my life
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- # [16:11] <hsivonen> gandalf: is Gecko-based l20n going to make it in time for B2G?
- # [16:11] <vingtetun> ted: debian stable
- # [16:11] <hsivonen> gandalf: if B2G apps include a library via <script>, then it fall under the JS library case
- # [16:12] <gandalf> ok
- # [16:12] <gandalf> I'd like to use Gecko-based l20n
- # [16:12] <vingtetun> ted: and obviously there is not such thing as a gcc 4.5 on stable ;)
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- # [16:13] <glandium> vingtetun: why do you use debian stable?
- # [16:13] <gandalf> my question now is - if we provide Gecko-based impl. for Gaia, and use l10-*, and will want to test Gaia on another engine by enabling fallback clientside JS lib for l20nxml, it will not work
- # [16:13] <vingtetun> gandalf: until then we should use data- imo
- # [16:13] <gandalf> is that a problem?
- # [16:13] <chrisccoulson> ted, vingtetun - https://launchpad.net/bugs/918763
- # [16:13] <glandium> ted: "The application did not leave a crash dump file." where can i poke to see why this happens?
- # [16:14] <chrisccoulson> it's http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/63c3d103610c causing the compiler error if you hadn't already worked it out
- # [16:14] <vingtetun> glandium: because i'm a poor admin-sys and having something stable protect my system from myself!
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- # [16:14] <mrbkap> vingtetun: sysadmin :)
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- # [16:14] <vingtetun> mrbkap: oups! french word!
- # [16:14] <vingtetun> chrisccoulson: looking. thanks
- # [16:14] <hsivonen> gandalf: in general, it's a problem to implement something as a JS lib first, ship it in the wild and then use the same syntax in a platform feature
- # [16:15] <bhearsum|buildduty> man, i love the new address bar completion in nightlies
- # [16:15] <hsivonen> gandalf: stuff goes wrong. the script library doesn't get out of the way when the platform feature exists.
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- # [16:15] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum|buildduty, i still keep pressing the down arrow to select the first result
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- # [16:15] <ted> glandium: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/client/linux/handler/exception_handler.cc#346
- # [16:15] <ted> somewhere in there
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- # [16:16] <gandalf> hsivonen: so we must think of a clientside library as a full feature rather than a potential fallback for platforms that does not support the feature nativly? :(
- # [16:16] <hsivonen> gandalf: when a platform feature exists first, then making a polyfill library for old browsers can work if it gets tested with a platform implementation so that it's truly tested to get out of the way when not needed
- # [16:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> chrisccoulson: yeah, same - but i'm starting not to!
- # [16:16] <Yoric> I have an assertion failed during shutdown.
- # [16:16] <Yoric> Is this known? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1459768
- # [16:17] <hsivonen> gandalf: well, if you ship the library before you've tested it with a native impl, it's very likely that the library will misbehave when running on an engine that has a native impl
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- # [16:17] <glandium> ted: thanks
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- # [16:17] <hsivonen> gandalf: also, if this can now run as a library, why is a native impl needed anymore?
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- # [16:18] <hsivonen> gandalf: a library can't deliver shadow DOM semantics in old browsers
- # [16:18] <vingtetun> hsivonen: the shim library is just a workaround
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- # [16:19] <vingtetun> the content will be first processed by the html parser (yours!) and then rewritten during the onload event handler
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- # [16:20] <hsivonen> vingtetun: who will the shim know when to turn itself off if it's shipped before a native impl exists and if it uses the same attributes?
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- # [16:21] <hsivonen> s/who/how/
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- # [16:21] <bsmedberg> bah, I take one day off and now I have 17 reviews to do?
- # [16:21] <vingtetun> oh to me it should not use the same attributes!
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- # [16:21] <hsivonen> vingtetun: right.
- # [16:22] <vingtetun> that's why i was asking
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- # [16:25] <gandalf> ok, so we move the clientside JS lib to operate on data-l10n-*
- # [16:25] <gandalf> and keep native implementation use l10n-*, right?
- # [16:25] <gandalf> that's the consensus?
- # [16:25] <hsivonen> gandalf: makes sense
- # [16:25] <gandalf> hsivonen, vingtetun, Pike ?
- # [16:25] <vingtetun> gandalf: yep
- # [16:25] <vingtetun> that's fine with me
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- # [16:26] <vingtetun> chrisccoulson: have you opened a bug on bugzilla?
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- # [16:26] <chrisccoulson> vingtetun, i didn't, but it looks like the change which breaks it is only meant to be temporary
- # [16:27] <Pike> yep
- # [16:27] <chrisccoulson> i wasn't sure if there was any point in opening a bug
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- # [16:27] <gandalf> ok
- # [16:28] <vingtetun> chrisccoulson: i will just do a comment in bug 621446, thanks.
- # [16:28] <chrisccoulson> vingtetun, thanks
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- # [16:29] <bbondy> I have an hg branch (elm) that I'd like to resync to mozilla-central. It has some changesets pushed to it previously that differ from the changesets pushed to mozilla-central but with the same code. How would I repurpose elm to be a clone of m-c again? And hence get rid of any differences on elm.
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- # [16:30] <Callek> bbondy: two options, file a ServerOps bug to have elm be wiped clean and recloned from mozilla-central
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- # [16:31] <Callek> bbondy: option 2, do a pull from mozilla-central, and then --close-branch (i think the command is) on the old head
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- # [16:33] <bbondy> I'll attempt option 2 thanks
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- # [16:36] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: so with optional [optional] in unsigned long, how do I tell from C++ whether the caller didn't specify the argument?
- # [16:36] <hsivonen> s/optional [optional]/[optional]/
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- # [16:37] <mounir> hsivonen: PRUint8 optional_argc
- # [16:38] <mounir> hsivonen: you can add that to the C++ function
- # [16:38] <mounir> if true, it means the optional arg has been passed IIRC
- # [16:38] <hsivonen> mounir: the generated .h says: /* AString unescape (in AString src, [optional] in unsigned long flags, [optional] in unsigned long wrapcol); */ NS_SCRIPTABLE NS_IMETHOD Unescape(const nsAString & src, PRUint32 flags, PRUint32 wrapcol, nsAString & _retval NS_OUTPARAM) = 0;
- # [16:39] <hsivonen> mounir: how do I get the generator to add PRUint8 optional_argc to the signature?
- # [16:39] <mounir> hsivonen: add [optional_argc] before the method name in the idl
- # [16:39] <hsivonen> mounir: thanks
- # [16:39] <mounir> yw
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- # [16:46] <hsivonen> does XPConnect guaranteed optional integer arguments to be set to zero?
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- # [16:47] <hsivonen> s/guaranteed/guarantee/
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- # [16:49] <biesi> hsivonen, yes
- # [16:49] <mounir> hsivonen: might be actually
- # [16:50] <mounir> khuey|away, mrbkap ^
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- # [16:50] <mreid> I just updated from m-c and now get build errors related to security/nss/lib/freebl/rsa.c and friends
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- # [16:51] <mreid> am I missing something obvious?
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- # [16:56] <sid0> is anyone building firefox opt on vc10 crashing at startup?
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- # [16:57] <jprmc> bsmedberg: https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/rkaiser/2012-01-22/
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- # [16:58] <espindola> armenzg, ok, the universal builds are now uploading to http://people.mozilla.org/~respindola/builds/
- # [16:58] <sid0> only opt builds are crashing, which makes it really annoying to debug
- # [16:58] <espindola> what should I do to test them on the bots?
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- # [16:58] <sid0> but the failure seems to be somewhere with xpc native wrappers
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- # [16:58] <armenzg> espindola: I will put 3 slaves in my testing environment and trigger jobs for them
- # [16:58] <espindola> ah, ok
- # [16:58] <espindola> thanks
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- # [16:59] <sid0> > xul.dll!XPC_WN_Helper_NewResolve(JSContext * cx, JSObject * obj, int id, unsigned int flags, JSObject * * objp) Line 1163 + 0xd bytes C++
- # [16:59] <sid0> that's where it's crashing
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- # [17:03] <uafx10> khuey another bad user agent sniffing by Google bug, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720179 . please tell Mozilla's Google contacts about it, thanks
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- # [17:05] <bholley> jlebar: hi
- # [17:06] <Ms2ger> Yoric, I've seen that assertion on tinderbox, at least
- # [17:06] <jlebar> bholley, Do we always kick off a size decode before a full decode?
- # [17:06] <bholley> jlebar: not necessarily
- # [17:06] <bholley> jlebar: it depends if we know we want a full decode (a la RequestDecode)
- # [17:06] <jlebar> That's what I thought.
- # [17:06] <bholley> jlebar: there's some logic somewhere that converts size decoders into full decoders
- # [17:06] <jlebar> So in the case that we're doing a full decode...
- # [17:07] <bholley> jlebar: eShutdownIntent_Interrupted or something
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- # [17:07] <armenzg> espindola: these are builds on 10.7 with 10.6 sdk, correct?
- # [17:07] <jlebar> bholley, So how is this true: In the current world, onload doesn't fire until all images fire the OnStopDecode+OnStopRequest siamese twins. This doesn't happen until a full size decode has happened, which means that every byte of data needs to have passed through the decoder,
- # [17:07] <jlebar> If, in the current world, we don't necessarily *do* a full size decode?
- # [17:07] <decoder> everyone always wants to pass data through me :(
- # [17:08] <bholley> jlebar: a regular decode implies a size decode
- # [17:08] <bholley> jlebar: it was somewhat ambiguous wording
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- # [17:08] <bholley> jlebar: I really meant "_at least_ a full size decode"
- # [17:08] <bholley> jlebar: but a regular decode works too
- # [17:08] <espindola> armenzg, correct
- # [17:08] <espindola> and xcode 4.1 (gcc-4.2)
- # [17:08] <jlebar> bholley, Okay... But now we go back to an earlier comment:
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- # [17:09] <jlebar> bholley, But I investigated it, and it turned out that browsers only fire |onerror| if the network load fails, or if the mimetype sniff fails (ie, the first few bytes are garbage). See bug 435296 comment 27.
- # [17:09] <armenzg> espindola: I will file a bug to keep track of the experiment
- # [17:09] <jlebar> (comment 24)
- # [17:09] <ted> ick
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- # [17:09] <ted> my windows nightly is getting really unresponsive
- # [17:10] <ted> playing flash videos from youtube
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- # [17:10] <Ms2ger> ted, slacker! ;)
- # [17:10] <ted> just intermittent periods where it stops responding
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- # [17:10] <ted> Ms2ger: background music
- # [17:10] <ted> :-P
- # [17:10] <Ms2ger> Ya sure ;)
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- # [17:11] <bholley> jlebar: yeah?
- # [17:11] <sid0> 587A5091 cmp dword ptr [ebp-54h],0
- # [17:11] <sid0> and ebp is 0
- # [17:11] <espindola> armenzg, thanks. Let me know if there is anything else I should do
- # [17:11] <jlebar> bholley, That seems to suggest that we're happy to let onload fire before we've touched very bit of the data?
- # [17:12] <bholley> jlebar: well, sort of
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- # [17:13] <sid0> ted: do we use ebp for something else these days?
- # [17:13] <armenzg> espindola: thanks a lot; actually there is something you could for me
- # [17:13] <bholley> jlebar: first of all, I'm just describing the behavior in the status quo. The things that cause onload to fire are the siamese twins, and those don't get fired (in the current code) until decoder shutdown (either size decode or full)
- # [17:13] <armenzg> could you have a look at bug 720027?
- # [17:13] <armenzg> there are some open questions that jhford wrt Xcode versions and clang
- # [17:13] <decoder> sid0: do you mean if any code uses ebp in general?
- # [17:13] <decoder> (of ours)
- # [17:13] <bholley> jlebar: this could be changed. But we still have to wait until the source data is complete
- # [17:13] <jlebar> bholley, Well, if that's true (and I believe you!) then that's not the issue here.
- # [17:13] <ted> sid0: we built without a framepointer everywhere in release builds
- # [17:13] <ted> AFAIK
- # [17:13] <sid0> ted: hrm
- # [17:13] <ted> so yeah
- # [17:14] <jlebar> bholley, At issue here are a few separate thing:
- # [17:14] <sid0> decoder: I guess
- # [17:14] <decoder> sid0: the JS engine does afaik
- # [17:14] <sid0> well, our code's trying to deref ebp
- # [17:14] <sid0> when it's set to 0
- # [17:14] <sid0> decoder: hm
- # [17:14] <jlebar> bholley, (1) We have to sync decode a few bytes in SourceDataComplete and return the error code if that fails.
- # [17:14] <jlebar> bholley, I presume this is so that we can fire a proper onerror.
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- # [17:14] <espindola> armenzg, sure, what is it?
- # [17:15] <jlebar> bholley, (2) For some tests, we have to sync decode a few bytes in SourceDataComplete, even if we ignore the error code. I'm not sure why that sync decode is important.
- # [17:15] <armenzg> espindola: it's on the bug
- # [17:15] <espindola> ah :-)
- # [17:15] <decoder> sid0: more precisely i think it's the type inference in the JS engine that uses ebp. but you better ask a JS dev :)
- # [17:15] <armenzg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720027 ^ espindola
- # [17:15] <sid0> decoder: hmm interesting
- # [17:16] <armenzg> I guess it was more of a left arrow :)
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- # [17:16] <sid0> decoder: but then shouldn't we not use -fomit-frame-pointer
- # [17:16] <sid0> unless the pointer's restored or something
- # [17:16] <ted> the JIT can use ebp if it wants
- # [17:16] <espindola> armenzg, you want me to comment on it?
- # [17:16] <ted> it's just a general purpose register
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- # [17:16] <armenzg> espindola: yes, please
- # [17:16] <armenzg> and see if that helps him
- # [17:16] <ted> our code being compiled -fomit-frame-pointer doesn't mean other code can't use it
- # [17:17] <decoder> sid0: i think they're using it in the JIT and can restore it later :)
- # [17:17] <sid0> ted: as long as it's restored, sure
- # [17:17] <sid0> there are two different places where it seems to be happening, ebp set to 0
- # [17:17] <ted> interesting
- # [17:18] <jlebar> bholley, I guess a question is: To what extent do we need to understand (2), given that fixing (1) implies (2)?
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- # [17:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> espindola: do you have build-vpn access right now?
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- # [17:21] <bholley> jlebar: wait, I was totally confused
- # [17:21] <TheOne> NeilAway: hey may I bug you again with something?
- # [17:22] <bholley> jlebar: I was looking at the other siamese twins :-(
- # [17:22] <espindola> bhearsum|buildduty, not sure. I think so
- # [17:22] <espindola> I used to have access to a bot some time ago
- # [17:22] <espindola> I know I returned the bot
- # [17:22] <espindola> not sure about the vpn
- # [17:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> can you try sshing to build-vpn.mozilla.com?
- # [17:22] <bholley> jlebar: I was looking at the internal OnStopDecoder/OnStopContainer, rather than the external OnStopDecode/OnStopRequest
- # [17:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm looking to get https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719129 ready for you today
- # [17:23] <jlebar> bholley, The difference is lost on me. :-/
- # [17:24] <espindola> bhearsum|buildduty, it accepted my key
- # [17:24] <espindola> thanks!
- # [17:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> great!
- # [17:24] <bholley> jlebar: bottom line - my comment was wrong, OnStopDecode is fired on imgRequest::OnStopRequest
- # [17:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'll have that ready pretty soon
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- # [17:24] <bholley> jlebar: where it calls satusTracker.SendStopRequest
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- # [17:24] <jlebar> bholley, Okay, and what's the implication of that?
- # [17:24] <bholley> jlebar: (the confusion will go away in bug 505385, which I'm working on)
- # [17:25] <espindola> ted, can you take a look at 719499
- # [17:25] <espindola> we might want to port those patches to beta too
- # [17:25] <bholley> jlebar: I didn't actually read your patch - I was just sniping at comments I saw go by that I thought didn't make sense
- # [17:25] <espindola> so having a decision about aurora soon would be handy
- # [17:25] <jlebar> bholley, Okay, so I should just ignore everything you've said?
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- # [17:26] <bholley> jlebar: that part, yes. However I would like to get to the bottom of this "minimum size" thing. I don't have the bandwidth to look at the details, but I think anytime we're passing some constant like 4 or 32 that affects correctness we should understand it
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- # [17:27] <jlebar> bholley, I agree, I'd like to understand that too. It may be that any number greater than 1 is acceptable. But there's still a question of why.
- # [17:28] <ted> espindola: yeah, i'll get there
- # [17:29] <bholley> jlebar: it'd be best to take that up with joe or give me a week - I'm pretty swamped with binding stuff right now, so I can't really focus on this :-(
- # [17:29] <jlebar> bholley, Okay, sounds like a plan.
- # [17:29] <jlebar> Thanks.
- # [17:30] <bholley> jlebar: sorry I was more of the confused and less of the helpful :\
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- # [17:42] <nemo> So. I recall reading on PMO a while ago about an effort to add something like a meta format for localisation files
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- # [17:42] <nemo> Have a vague memory of a JSON format being proposed
- # [17:43] <nemo> anyone know anything about this or where it might be or what it is called?
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- # [17:43] <nemo> Our project is now up to 6 formats for localisation files, and was wondering about feasibility of adding an overall structure
- # [17:43] <reuben> nemo, l20n, perhaps? https://wiki.mozilla.org/L20n
- # [17:43] <Ms2ger> gandalf might know
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- # [17:45] <gandalf> nemo: was it about UI localization or content localization?
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- # [17:46] <nemo> gandalf: um. pretty sure it was browser strings, so ui I guess... trying to massage google into getting me a hit on PMO history for it
- # [17:46] <edmorley> vladan: the xpcshell failure you will get on your 2eeeaaf88af6 try push is due to something that has since been backed out of inbound btw
- # [17:46] <nemo> problem with feeds is they lack unique timestamped URLs to look up old date ranges.
- # [17:46] <nemo> not that they probably preserve history anyway
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- # [17:47] <nemo> gandalf: hrm. lemme rephrase. does Mozilla even have something like that? :)
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- # [17:48] <nemo> I was browsing the various localization web tools, and they seem to link to files in a variety of formats still
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- # [17:50] <NeilAway> TheOne: maybe
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- # [17:55] <sid0> ted: ebp being overwritten means i can't even get a valid stack trace :(
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- # [17:55] <ted> raelly?
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- # [17:55] <ted> the debug symbols should work fine for most things
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- # [17:57] <sid0> ted: i just get the function it's crashing in, not any of its callers
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- # [17:57] <ted> odd
- # [17:57] <ted> get a minidump, try breakpad? :)
- # [17:58] <ted> usually msvc/windbg does a pretty good job of recovering
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- # [18:01] <Ms2ger> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=590652&action=diff
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- # [18:06] <sid0> ted: well without a correct base pointer how do you unwind the stack?
- # [18:07] <Ms2ger> Magic
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- # [18:08] <froydnj> sid0: on-the-side unwinding information, heuristically grovelling through the instruction stream, etc.
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- # [18:09] <sid0> froydnj: right, none of which a debugger can do by itself presumably, especially in an opt build
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- # [18:09] <froydnj> sid0: debuggers do those things all the time
- # [18:09] <sid0> froydnj: in an opt build?
- # [18:09] <froydnj> especially the insn grovelling
- # [18:09] <sid0> well vc seems to have thrown its hands up
- # [18:10] <ted> sid0: breakpad resorts to scanning the stack
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- # [18:10] <ted> sid0: vc does better because it has the binaries
- # [18:10] <sid0> ted: ah hm
- # [18:10] <ted> so yeah, it can scan the stack for potential return addresses
- # [18:10] <ted> and then look at the binary to see if there's a call there
- # [18:10] <sid0> ah makes sense
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- # [18:10] <ted> breakpad is crappier because it doesn't have binaries
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- # [18:11] <sid0> oh man, this might be a corrupt stack
- # [18:12] * sid0 looks
- # [18:12] <ted> you're pretty much Fed at that point
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- # [18:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley, seen https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=lackofsex ? :)
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- # [18:35] <evilpie> edmorley: and if it was a cry for help ?!
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- # [18:44] <ted> why is this onehourpersecond.com youtube promo using flash?
- # [18:44] <ted> for simple animations
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- # [18:44] <ted> kind of lame
- # [18:44] <RobertClaypool> What? You think we should tell her husband to take her shopping? Or maybe tell her that if her husband does this she shoud see if she can catch that class she "cancelled" read skipped
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- # [18:46] <RobertClaypool> ...or that she should check with her husband to see if that's what he really wants before skipping class?
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- # [18:51] <MarcoZ> Who do I contact if I want something backed out of m-c?
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- # [18:52] <gcp> make a bug about the reason for the backout, get someone to r+ it?
- # [18:52] <mwu> khuey
- # [18:53] <gcp> or if it was inadvertently committed, almost anyone can fix it
- # [18:53] <MarcoZ> gcp: Well it introduced a serious regression that wasn't caught by tests, only by manual testing.
- # [18:54] <MarcoZ> gcp: Anyway I'll wait until davidb comes back from lunch and talk to him directly.
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- # [18:55] <edmorley> MarcoZ: was it something you landed?
- # [18:56] <MarcoZ> edmorley: Nope, surkov landed it yesterday, for today's nightly, but he's in transit until tomorrow.
- # [18:57] <ted> MarcoZ: you can just back him out yourself
- # [18:57] <ted> if it's important
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- # [18:58] <MarcoZ> ted: From m-c, or do I need to go through inbound for that, too?
- # [18:59] <edmorley> MarcoZ: I can back out of m-c now if you like, presuming surkov would be ok with it?
- # [18:59] <MarcoZ> edmorley: Difficult to ask him, since he's on the plane over Russia somewhere. Fact is this bug, see bug 720393, breaks screen readers on Windows whenever they hit a Facebook "like" button or any other iframe with focusable items on any web page.
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- # [19:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9b069a37f58f - Ed Morley - Backout ca7d87ab38b6 (bug 707654) for causing problems with NVDA (bug 720393); a=MarcoZ
- # [19:04] <MarcoZ> edmorley: Thanks! This will restore the next nightly to functionality, and we have time to get that bug back on the drawing board.
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- # [19:06] <edmorley> MarcoZ: no problem :-) (I have triggered another nightly on the backout changeset too)
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- # [19:07] <philor> is it reasonable to do runTest() before you do SimpleTest.waitForExplicitFinish()?
- # [19:07] <MarcoZ> edmorley: Thanks a bunch!
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- # [19:08] <jdm> philor: I would be worried by that
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- # [19:11] <jdm> ted: any objection to me surrounding calls to nsIProcess.kill with try/catch and just dumping an informative string if it fails, instead of taking down the whole test?
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- # [19:11] <jdm> ted: for context, this is in test_socks.js
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- # [19:16] <ted> jdm: go for it
- # [19:17] <jdm> hokay
- # [19:17] <ted> i say you make whatever changes you need to figure out what's happening there
- # [19:17] <ted> rs=me for life
- # [19:17] <ted> (on that file)
- # [19:17] <ted> :-P
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- # [19:20] <@smaug> Ms2ger: very useful reply from Glenn A
- # [19:20] <@smaug> o_O
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- # [19:21] <@smaug> Ms2ger: do you know if he represents some company?
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- # [19:22] <Paenglab> I changed in Calendar every chromedir= attribute in css to -moz-locale-dir. Now it has still chromedir references in xul and xhtml files. Are they still valid for this filetypes or should they also be changed or removed?
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- # [19:26] <Ms2ger> smaug, Samsung?
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- # [19:27] <mbrubeck> mounir: Have you seen bug 719795?
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- # [19:31] <mounir> mbrubeck: yes
- # [19:32] <mounir> will investigate that
- # [19:32] <mounir> I have to clobber :(
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- # [19:33] <mbrubeck> mounir: I'm working on it now; it doesn't look too complicated.
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- # [19:33] <mounir> mbrubeck: oh, that's awesome
- # [19:33] <mbrubeck> mounir: I'm just wondering if we want the SMS manager to stop while the app is paused, or only when it really shuts down?
- # [19:34] <mounir> mbrubeck: when the app shuts down
- # [19:34] <mounir> mbrubeck: please, ask me a review
- # [19:34] <mbrubeck> okay. That makes it easy. :)
- # [19:34] <mbrubeck> sure.
- # [19:34] <mounir> mbrubeck: though, I wonder why it crashes with xul and not with native
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- # [19:35] <mbrubeck> mounir: Does this code exist in mobile/android/base (native) or only in embedding/android (xul)?
- # [19:36] <mounir> mbrubeck: in both
- # [19:36] <mbrubeck> I see... I'll try to figure that out too.
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- # [19:36] <mbrubeck> Maybe the manifest settings for rotation are different.
- # [19:37] <mbrubeck> Ah, yes. Native Fennec has android:configChanges="orientation" in the AndroidManifest for the main activity, while XUL does not.
- # [19:37] <mounir> how does that change anything?
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- # [19:38] <mounir> mbrubeck: speaking of which, do you we care about new features in XUL fennec?
- # [19:38] <mounir> and why android:configChanges="orientation" isn't in XUL fennec?
- # [19:38] <mbrubeck> That prevents the activity from being destroyed/created on orientation changes.
- # [19:38] <mounir> (i'm asking because I'm going to implement a screen orientation api)
- # [19:38] <mbrubeck> I don't remember why we don't have it in XUL Fennec...
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- # [19:38] <mbrubeck> mounir: No, XUL Fennec is deprecated; we are only fixing critical bugs at this point. If it's easiest just to back out this code from it, that's an option.
- # [19:38] <mbrubeck> (I'll try to fix it first, though.)
- # [19:39] <mounir> mbrubeck: backing out will be hard because AndroidBridge is shared
- # [19:39] <mbrubeck> Right.
- # [19:39] <mbrubeck> mounir: Native Fennec doesn't crash on orientation changes, but it might crash on some of the other config changes listed here: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/activity-element.html#config
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- # [19:52] <hub> if I commit to m-i, do I need to pull from m-i first?
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- # [19:54] <gaston> so, if i get bug #306324 right, we can't build tb against libxul yet, and thus neither seamonkey? what about fennec/mobile ?
- # [19:55] <Mook_as> pretty sure you do; try is the only place you should be creating multiple heads.
- # [19:55] <edmorley> hub: most of the time inbound is a superset of m-c, so you'll need to rebase on top of the newer changes there
- # [19:55] <jimm> how would you know if your work merges with mi properly without a pull first?
- # [19:56] <hub> edmorley: ok. that what I thought
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- # [19:57] <hub> edmorley: make sense. I'll do that from now on
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- # [19:58] <ejpbruel> or khuey: ping
- # [19:58] <mbrubeck> hg qpop -a && hg pull inbound && hg up -c && hg qpush <patch> && hg push -rtip inbound
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- # [20:02] <edmorley> ah, it was using on mozilla-beta with it's relbranches that was problematic wasn't it?
- # [20:03] <jdm> probably
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- # [20:03] <gcp> jlebar: adding logging for uulAvailablePageFile is prolly easy...
- # [20:04] <jlebar> gcp, Sure, and we should probably do it, but I still don't understand why this is a malloc failure.
- # [20:04] <gcp> jlebar: me neither. it's creepy.
- # [20:04] <khuey> ejpbruel: pong
- # [20:04] <khuey> for a bit
- # [20:04] <khuey> going for dinner soon
- # [20:04] <ejpbruel> khuey: how much do you know about nsAppShell?
- # [20:04] <jlebar> gcp, Maybe the system pages before it hits SystemMemoryUsePercentage: 100?}
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- # [20:04] <khuey> ejpbruel: not much
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- # [20:05] <gcp> jlebar: not so much page as start reducing disk cache, I think
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- # [20:05] <ejpbruel> khuey: im trying to figure out how nsAppShellService::JustCreateTopWindow makes sure that a window is either shown or not (in case of a hidden window)
- # [20:05] <jlebar> gcp, Okay, but that shouldn't kill us...
- # [20:06] <gcp> jlebar: no, no way. with FF using 162M people would have to be running 192M machines to OOM us there.
- # [20:06] <ejpbruel> khuey: would expect either an explicit call to Show on some window object or an explicit check if the window is hidden somewhere in the window object
- # [20:06] <ejpbruel> didnt find either so far
- # [20:06] <jlebar> gcp, Hm, I think you're confusing virtual memory and RSS.
- # [20:07] <@smaug> ejpbruel: pong
- # [20:07] <ejpbruel> smaug: hi! i wanted to ask you the same thing i just asked kyle :)
- # [20:07] <gcp> jlebar: well, if we're only at 162M address space used, what other ways can we OOM? :P
- # [20:07] <jlebar> gcp, Firefox is using 162M of *virtual memory*. It doesn't really matter how much RAM the person has in their machine, what matters is whether their RAM plus swap space is big enough to fit us, right?
- # [20:07] <@smaug> I'm sure khuey answered something reasonable
- # [20:07] <gcp> jlebar: yes
- # [20:07] * @smaug reads
- # [20:07] <gcp> jlebar: hence AvailablePagefile which is sum of swap+ram
- # [20:07] <jlebar> Indeed.
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- # [20:08] <@smaug> ejpbruel: ok, I don't know much about it
- # [20:08] <gcp> jlebar: 162M virtual mem means that we *for certain* dont use more than 162M ram or anything
- # [20:08] <@smaug> ejpbruel: ask bsmedberg
- # [20:08] <ejpbruel> smaug: thanks
- # [20:08] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: ping
- # [20:08] <gcp> jlebar: so OOMing there is...strange
- # [20:08] <jlebar> gcp, yes, agreed.
- # [20:08] <jlebar> gcp, I think jemalloc has a flag meant to handle this.
- # [20:08] <jlebar> gcp, Instead of anonymously mmap'ing memory, it mmap's temporary files to back the heap.
- # [20:08] <jlebar> So those temp files can be swapped out.
- # [20:09] <jlebar> gcp, We could try enabling that. I'm not sure what would happen. :-/
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- # [20:09] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, no hg qfin?
- # [20:09] <gcp> jlebar: if I look at crashdumps with huge uptimes, I see much more virtual memory used
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- # [20:09] <jlebar> gcp, Right, that's expected.
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- # [20:10] <jlebar> gcp, 160mb is super-low. So low, I suspect it may be during startup.
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- # [20:10] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: No, that's why all my commits have messages like "imported patch crash-fix"
- # [20:10] <mbrubeck> :)
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- # [20:10] <Ms2ger> I see
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- # [20:10] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: No, that's why all my commits have messages like "imported patch crash-fix"
- # [20:10] <mbrubeck> :)
- # [20:10] <Ms2ger> Got that :)
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- # [20:13] <Ms2ger> khuey, early
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- # [20:13] <gcp> jlebar: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ca4a7e4f-33ad-4394-9e9e-f31e32120121
- # [20:13] <gcp> jlebar: uptime 7 seconds
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- # [20:18] <jlebar> gcp, what about the other one?
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- # [20:21] <gcp> jlebar: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/e9bedf55-0a3e-4b20-b77a-3486f2120121
- # [20:21] <gcp> jlebar: +-1 minute
- # [20:22] <jlebar> gcp, :-/ But maybe the machine is swapping so hard, it didn't start up much in 78s.
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- # [20:23] <gcp> what product/component do crash report bugs go in?
- # [20:23] <gcp> toolkit breakpad?
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- # [20:24] <Ms2ger> gcp, the component for the crashing code
- # [20:25] <gcp> I should have said "crash reporter"
- # [20:25] <gcp> as in the actual thing
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- # [20:27] <jdm> gcp: yeah, toolkit breakpad
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- # [20:44] <Ms2ger> ddahl, so every time Deborah Dahl ends up in my inbox, I think it's you
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- # [20:45] <Ms2ger> smontagu, bug number in https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/a0c19f382a3a is wrong
- # [20:45] <ddahl> Ms2ger: we clearly have a problem here. w3c thought I was her in an email exchange:)
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- # [20:45] <smontagu> Ms2ger: already corrected locally
- # [20:45] <smontagu> but thanks for pointing it out
- # [20:45] <Ms2ger> Np
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- # [20:45] <ddahl> Ms2ger: meanwhile i will begin sending you more email
- # [20:45] <Ms2ger> Had to prove I was looking at your try pushes :)
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- # [20:45] <Ms2ger> ddahl, go ahead :)
- # [20:45] * smontagu was wondering whether you would :)
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- # [20:46] <Ms2ger> smontagu, 'twas a trick, was it? :)
- # [20:46] <ddahl> Ms2ger: i will after a file a followup bug for you and sicking to discuss the merits and shortcomings of typedarray buffer views
- # [20:47] <Ms2ger> Oh, I don't care about typed arrays
- # [20:47] <jhammel> just handwritten ones?
- # [20:47] <Ms2ger> It's abarth he gets to convince
- # [20:47] <edmorley> philor: clobberer page may not have finished submitting by the time the merge to inbound occurred, so native might need a retrigger
- # [20:48] <philor> edmorley: k
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- # [20:48] <edmorley> pending may have saved the day, but we shall see
- # [20:49] <jaws> roc: feedback ping for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710373 ?
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- # [20:49] <Ms2ger> evilpie, good! Then you can discuss with sicking :)
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- # [20:49] <ddahl> Ms2ger: ah, ok, thanks, will add abarth to that email
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- # [20:49] <ddahl> evilpie will also be on that email:)
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- # [20:50] <Ms2ger> ddahl, cc to a public list? :)
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- # [20:50] <ddahl> Ms2ger: sure, plus I thought the discussion would be handy in bugzilla
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- # [20:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dead9dc86cfa - Joel Maher - Bug 719946 - please update a new talos.zip. r=armenzg
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- # [20:59] <bsmedberg> ejpbruel: pong
- # [20:59] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: hi!
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- # [21:00] <RobertClaypool> whioch public list?
- # [21:00] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: ive been studying nsAppShellService::JustCreateTopWindow. it's clear to me how it creates windows, but not how it makes sure that the window is not shown when its hidden (or rather, where it makes sure nsWindow::Show is called on non-hidden ones)
- # [21:01] <bsmedberg> ejpbruel: heh, ok. This is mostly unowned code. I think the last time I really looked at nsAppShellService was 2008
- # [21:01] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: better than nothing i guess :) got any clues?
- # [21:02] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, that makes you the last to touch it, so you own it until ejpbruel does :)
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- # [21:03] <bsmedberg> so, there are two callers of JustCreateTopWindow
- # [21:03] <bsmedberg> CreateHiddenWindow presumably doesn't show it
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- # [21:03] <bsmedberg> and CreateTopLevelWindow presumably does
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- # [21:04] <bsmedberg> the only real difference is that CreateTopLevelWindow calls into RegisterTopLevelWindow which adds that window to the window mediator and window watcher
- # [21:04] <bsmedberg> please don't get me started about those, they are both the spawn of satan
- # [21:04] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: which version of mozilla-build do our xp testers have
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- # [21:05] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: my guess is it somehow depends on the aIsHiddenWindow flag they pass to JustCreateTopWindow
- # [21:05] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: the fact that the window is hidden is stored in widgetInitData, and that is passed via via to nsWindow, so the window knows that its supposed to be hidden
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- # [21:06] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: but nsWindow's constructor (or its host, nsXULWindow, for that matter) dont seem to do anything to actually show the window
- # [21:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> ehsan: hmm, let me find
- # [21:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> out
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- # [21:06] <bsmedberg> ejpbruel: have you breakpointed nsWindow::Show (or nsCoocaWindow::Show) to find out?
- # [21:07] <bhearsum|buildduty> ehsan: 1.4
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- # [21:07] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: i was hoping you could give me a quick answer, but yeah, that sounds like the obvious next step :)
- # [21:07] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: hmm, so I installed the 1.4 version there, but I'm getting errors when launching python.exe
- # [21:07] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: about missing app config etc
- # [21:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> can you pastebin or screenshot?
- # [21:08] <bsmedberg> no, I have no quick answer
- # [21:08] <bsmedberg> I keep a debug build around for quick answers from my debugger though ;-)
- # [21:08] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: wait, I'm removing the whole directory and reinstalling just to be sure
- # [21:08] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: your point is taken :) thanks for your help
- # [21:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> ehsan: k :)
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- # [21:10] <Ms2ger> ddahl, thanks
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- # [21:12] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: ok, problem solved
- # [21:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> yay!
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- # [21:13] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: but this is an interesting data point on why we shouldn't switch to the latest mozilla-build ;)
- # [21:13] <ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: should I file a bug?
- # [21:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> sure, but it probably won't get much action
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- # [21:13] <ehsan> great
- # [21:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> we have a 'if it's not broke don't fix it' attitude towards big things like that
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- # [21:13] <ehsan> that is exactly the type of bug I need to file ;)
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- # [21:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'll come punch you later for it
- # [21:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> but thanks!
- # [21:14] <ehsan> np :)
- # [21:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbiaf
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- # [21:15] <gaston> that said, zzz
- # [21:16] <gaston> doh, ewin
- # [21:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> back
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- # [21:19] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: do we have signmar binaries for mac?
- # [21:20] <bbondy> bhearsum: I think they are built but we don't initially plan on verifying mars for mac
- # [21:20] <reuben> haha, interesting! http://www.cdecl.org/
- # [21:20] <bbondy> bhearsum: untested but tested on windows/linux
- # [21:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: yeah, this is just for running the signing server on a local mac
- # [21:20] <bbondy> k np
- # [21:20] <bbondy> you'd have to grab the patch and build it
- # [21:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> ouch
- # [21:20] <bbondy> signmar goes to dist/bin
- # [21:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> it's not built on elm or m-c?
- # [21:21] <bbondy> not landed on m-c yet and elm only does windows builds
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- # [21:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah
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- # [21:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> OK, maybe i'll rethink this then :)
- # [21:21] <bbondy> :)
- # [21:21] <bbondy> not too bad to build btw just make -C modules/libmar
- # [21:22] <RobertClaypool> I'm getting DejaVu here... wasn't there a conversation in her similar to the one between ehsan abd bhearsum before?
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- # [21:36] <irving> bsmith: having trouble nailing down the right lines of code to break on for bug 708813. where does 'wrote -1 bytes' get logged?
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- # [21:36] <bsmith> irving: Somewhere in the LDAP code
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- # [21:37] <bsmith> irving: The best place to break and step would probably be SSLServerCertCertVerfication.cpp:AuthCertificateHook
- # [21:38] <bsmith> irving: after this line: SECStatus rv = AuthCertificate(socketInfo, serverCert);
- # [21:38] <bsmith> irving: It should be the case that rv == SECSuccess, so we return SECSuccess
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- # [21:39] <bsmith> irving: The caller we return to is ssl3_HandleCertificate in ssl3con.c
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- # [21:39] <irving> bsmith: Is that patch expected to work on trunk? that might be my problem...
- # [21:40] <bsmith> irving: for LDAP, it should work on trunk
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- # [21:42] <bsmith> irving: I know the problem
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- # [21:43] <bsmith> irving: The patch in bug 708813 is about resolving *1* breakage
- # [21:43] <bsmith> irving: to get LDAP working in Thunderbird over SSL, you need *all* the patches in bug 712363
- # [21:44] * irving facepalms
- # [21:44] <irving> bsmith: thanks
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- # [21:44] <bsmith> irving: Builds with those patches are available from tryserver:
- # [21:44] <bsmith> http://build.mozillamessaging.com/tinderboxpushlog/?tree=ThunderbirdTry&rev=8f9793ec4860
- # [21:44] <bsmith> It would be great if you could test those tryserver builds with me. I haen't tested them yet.
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- # [21:45] <bsmith> irving: wait, were you testing a TB9 build?
- # [21:45] <bsmith> or a trunk build?
- # [21:46] <irving> bsmith: trunk
- # [21:46] <bsmith> TB9 should work with just that patch
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- # [21:46] <bsmith> but -aurora and -central need all the patches
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- # [21:47] <bsmith> irving: It is confusing; because we didn't know TB was broken for several weeks, I kept breaking it worse and worse over the course of those several weeks, introducing multiple problems
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- # [21:50] <irving> OK. Our big concern right now is Beta, so I should probably switch over to build against TB 10.
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- # [22:08] <bsmedberg> Is anyone else getting empty annotate results from hg.mozilla.org?
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- # [22:09] <gavin> bsmedberg: I have noticed very slow results, but not empty
- # [22:10] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
- # [22:10] <bsmedberg> maybe I just timed out
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- # [22:11] <cousin_luigi> I'm not sure this is the right channel, but where can I report a suspected bug? (can't register a new protocol and none of the solutions listed on mozillawiki works)
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- # [22:12] <bsmedberg> cousin_luigi: this isn't a bug-reporting channel
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- # [22:12] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: could you kindly point me at one?
- # [22:12] <bsmedberg> cousin_luigi: when you say you are trying to register one, do you mean you're writing an extension which tries to register one?
- # [22:13] <bsmedberg> IRC channels can answer questions, but if it's really a bug it goes in a bug report on bugzilla.mozilla.org
- # [22:13] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: no, I merely want magnet:// links to be opened by an external application.
- # [22:13] <bsmedberg> What page were you looking at on mozillawiki?
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- # [22:13] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Firefox_3.5_and_above
- # [22:14] <bsmedberg> oh god, mozillazine
- # [22:14] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: people on #firefox suggested me to ask a developer
- # [22:14] <biesi> that was removed, iirc
- # [22:14] <cousin_luigi> biesi: sorry, what was?
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- # [22:14] <biesi> cousin_luigi, wait, nevermind, the "up to 3.0" method is what I meant
- # [22:14] <biesi> which obviously got removed, coz it says "up to 3" :)
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- # [22:15] <bsmedberg> cousin_luigi: is magnet: properly registered with your OS?
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- # [22:15] <bsmedberg> and... what OS are you using?
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- # [22:16] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: ubuntu 11.10 and, I don't think so
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- # [22:16] <bsmedberg> if it's not registered with the OS, I don't think it matters what the Firefox prefs say
- # [22:17] <bsmedberg> we just won't do anything with it
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- # [22:18] <cousin_luigi> bsmedberg: ok, I suppose that's the direction I have to look into
- # [22:18] <cousin_luigi> thanks
- # [22:19] <bsmedberg> e.g. if I type "foobar:itsaurl" into the URL bar
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- # [22:42] <philor> jdm: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8765778&tree=Mozilla-Inbound :(
- # [22:42] <jdm> did I break test_socks?
- # [22:42] <jdm> goddammit
- # [22:42] <philor> what is this e of which you speak?
- # [22:42] <bsmedberg> jdm: it may be worse than it was before...
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- # [22:42] <jdm> yeah, stupid mistake
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- # [22:44] <hub> oh, don't tell me I can't commit :-/
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- # [22:46] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: which patch do i need to apply to get signmar?
- # [22:46] <bbondy> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699700
- # [22:47] <bhearsum|buildduty> thx
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- # [22:47] <bbondy> np
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- # [22:48] <edmorley> hub: what's not working?
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- # [22:49] <hub> edmorley: nothing, I thought we were having a busted tree. for now, I'm just making sure I don't break the build :-)
- # [22:50] <hub> so commit soon
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- # [22:50] <edmorley> hub: ah, makes sense now :-)
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- # [22:55] <philor> given the standards of the day so far, this is pretty minor bustage
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- # [23:01] <edmorley> philor: it's certainly been a colourful day :-)
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- # [23:02] <philor> edmorley: I liked the part where the pushlog was just alternating "person: push; edmorley: back out push; person: push; edmorley: back out push" :)
- # [23:02] <edmorley> heh
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- # [23:03] <taras> is there an mq extension to import all patches in a bug?
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- # [23:04] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: so, when i try to build modules/libmar it complains about nss includes being missing
- # [23:05] <bbondy> bhearsum: did you just build libmar direct without a build of the rest of the tree?
- # [23:05] <bhearsum|buildduty> i build config and nsprub, but that's it
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- # [23:05] <bbondy> ya you have to build nss as well
- # [23:05] <bhearsum|buildduty> ahhhh
- # [23:05] <bbondy> I recommend just to build the whole tree
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- # [23:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah, nss seems to have some prereqs too
- # [23:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> stupid build systems
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- # [23:06] <bbondy> :)
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- # [23:07] <sfink> taras: qimportbz can do that
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- # [23:24] <taras> sfink: can you walk me through this, i added qimportbz = ~/work/qimportbz/ to hgrc
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- # [23:25] <taras> sfink: but if i do hg qimportbz 563742 i still get the generic hg help message
- # [23:25] <sfink> taras: try hg qimport bz://563742
- # [23:27] <taras> sfink: thanks
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- # [23:28] <sfink> taras: I'm not sure the easiest way to choose multiple. The help says there's a config option to automatically choose all of them. From the source, it looks like comma-separated numbers will work too.
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- # [23:29] <nemo> ok. something definitely changed in table rendering in FF12 vs FF9
- # [23:29] <nemo> guess I'm gonna have to file a regression bug.
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- # [23:29] <nemo> ugh. such a pain reducing and cleaning up this page. wish it wasn't internal so I could link to it :-/
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- # [23:30] <taras> sfink: doesn't work
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- # [23:30] <taras> it seems to get confused after first patch
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- # [23:30] <taras> "patch already exists" sort of thing
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- # [23:31] <sfink> that sucks. I've never actually tried multiple. (Though I might be to blame for breaking it, assuming it worked once.)
- # [23:32] <sfink> you're right, it doesn't work. Though if you rename each of the patches, it works.
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- # [23:33] <taras> sfink: i'll try it again next time i need this
- # [23:34] <taras> if it prompts me to rename stuff manually, it's not superuseful
- # [23:34] <sfink> yup, it's broken right now
- # [23:34] <taras> it should just make a name based on patch desc with s/ /_/g
- # [23:34] <sfink> it's supposed to
- # [23:34] <taras> ah ok
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- # [23:35] <taras> froydnj: uneval(obj) == "{}"?
- # [23:36] <froydnj> uneval? really? that's the best way to do it?
- # [23:36] <gavin> Object.keys(obj).length == 0
- # [23:36] <taras> froydnj: seems so
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- # [23:37] <gavin> froydnj: ^
- # [23:37] * taras bets gavin disagrees
- # [23:37] <gavin> taras: what's wrong with my suggestion?
- # [23:37] <taras> nothing
- # [23:38] <froydnj> gavin: thanks
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- # [23:40] <@smaug> how do I open a 7z file?
- # [23:40] <@smaug> er, decompress
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- # [23:40] <gavin> 7zunzip
- # [23:40] <gavin> or somesuch
- # [23:40] <cmr> p7zip on linux
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- # [23:41] <cmr> (Name of binary is '7z', use '7z x file.7z' to extract
- # [23:41] <cmr> )
- # [23:41] <@smaug> I hope there is a p7zip package for Fedora
- # [23:42] <gavin> I would be shocked if there wasnt
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- # [23:43] <@smaug> there is
- # [23:43] <ehsan> catlee: is bug 719454 comment 2 directed at you?
- # [23:43] <@smaug> 7z is not that commonly used
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- # [23:44] <bsmedberg> does anyone here have a windows build env and can quickly tell me whether a patch builds before I send it off to tryserver?
- # [23:45] <bsmedberg> it will be a very quick rebuild
- # [23:45] <ehsan> bsmedberg: sure
- # [23:45] <hub> am I allowed to do push -f ?
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- # [23:46] <ehsan> hub: to whrre?
- # [23:46] <hub> inbound
- # [23:46] <ehsan> no
- # [23:46] <bsmedberg> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=590880 just rebuild toolkit/crashreporter
- # [23:46] <ehsan> hg pull -u --rebase
- # [23:46] <bsmedberg> hub: inbound may not have multiple heads
- # [23:46] <bsmedberg> we actually have a hook which will prevent it even if you push -f
- # [23:46] <hub> ok
- # [23:47] <hub> hg pull: option --rebase not recognized
- # [23:47] <nthomas> [extensions]
- # [23:47] <nthomas> rebase=
- # [23:47] <nthomas> in your ~/.hgrc
- # [23:47] <hub> oh
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- # [23:48] <ehsan> bsmedberg: only toolkit/crashreporter?
- # [23:48] <bsmedberg> yep
- # [23:48] <ehsan> it doesn't build
- # [23:48] <bsmedberg> of course not, and I'm 350 miles from my windows build system
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- # [23:49] <hub> thank
- # [23:49] <hub> s
- # [23:49] <ehsan> bsmedberg: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1459977
- # [23:50] <zpao> josh: ping
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- # [23:50] <josh> bsmedberg: I'm honing in on a Pandora fix, nsPluginInstanceOwner::CallSetWindow bails if it doesn't have an object frame even though we already have a widget. Hopefully I can just allow it to succeed with the best possible information in the NPWindow for anything we don't know yet.
- # [23:50] <josh> zpao: ?
- # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/952491790dee - Timothy B. Terriberry - Bug 719612 - Update libvorbis. r=kinetik a=akeybl
- # [23:50] <bsmedberg> josh: cool... what don't we know yet?
- # [23:50] <zpao> any updates to my comments here? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639705#c70
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- # [23:51] <hub> I only close the bug when it hits moz-central?
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- # [23:51] <bsmedberg> hub: correct
- # [23:51] <ehsan> hub: yeah just mention the inbound revision in a comment, and set the milestone to fx12
- # [23:52] <hub> ehsan: did that already. Thanks !
- # [23:52] <ehsan> good
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- # [23:53] <josh> bsmedberg: We won't necessarily know what the dimensions will be if/when the plugin ever finally shows itself. We'll have to assume a clip rect of 0/0. Doesn't seem like that will be a problem though.
- # [23:53] <bsmedberg> oh yeah, that should be fine
- # [23:53] <bsmedberg> it's *currently* 0/0
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- # [23:54] <josh> Earlier in my patches I didn't create a widget until we had an object frame, but I had to change that for various reasons (to create on init, object frame or not), so what would be the hard part is already done.
- # [23:54] <Bas> How do I get the results from refcount logging?
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- # [23:54] <hub> I wonder why rebase is an extension
- # [23:54] <hub> *sigh*
- # [23:54] <hub> anyway
- # [23:55] <bsmedberg> because it's not "the DCVS way" !
- # [23:55] <bsmedberg> CVCS
- # [23:55] <bsmedberg> DVCS
- # [23:55] * bsmedberg gives up
- # [23:55] <taras> is there a ctypes convetion for passing a buffer of a certain length, ie is there some string-like thing for this?
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- # [23:56] <hub> bsmedberg: "git"
- # [23:56] <hub> *sigh*
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- # [23:56] <josh> zpao: Answering your questions there is going to require me to spend at least an hour looking at code and playing with fullscreen options. I can do that later this week. If you want to pick a solution based on what appears to work well for you, I'll take your word for it so long as the code looks sane.
- # [23:56] <sheppy> taras: should be able to allocate an array of characters and pass a pointer to that...
- # [23:57] <taras> sheppy: problem is passing around a buf + length in a single struct, i was wondering if there was a utility struct for this already
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- # [23:58] <sheppy> taras: ah… not that I know of. You'd need to allocate the buffer, then map it to a struct with the length field and fill that out, I think.
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- # [23:59] <taras> sheppy: ok, thanks
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