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# [00:00] <timeless> drice: MXR parses @ things a bit
# [00:00] <timeless> as does doxygen
# [00:00] <timeless> which is sometimes also linked from MXR
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# [00:01] <timeless> Mossop: technically the old xpidl had an html output mode
# [00:02] <timeless> which never had much love
# [00:02] <timeless> but since doxygen works well enough, it wasn't worth saving w/ the rewrite
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# [00:45] <romaxa> what the point of keeping 2 versions sqlite lib in mozilla tree?
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# [00:54] <diogogmt> How can I change the target element from a mousemove event? I've tried switching the element that is passed to the NotifyMouseOver method, but the original element that received the move is still receiving the event. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/events/src/nsEventStateManager.cpp#4024
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# [00:56] <mak> romaxa: at first glance, NSS has a different version with custom changes
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# [00:56] <mak> romaxa: I don't know the historical reasons though
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# [00:59] <WG9s> NSS is a seperately released product. so if we make custom changes we can't use the same versionnumber as the releaswed product.
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# [01:01] <WG9s> NSS is released by mozilla for use in other products (perhaps not even mozilla products like other browsers)
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# [01:02] <WG9s> so if we make custom changes to what we use, using the same version number as the product we released but have differnet code in our version would not be a very good thing to be doing. and woudl be frowned upon by others using NSS in thier product.
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# [01:03] <luke> what brave devs claim to know NPAPI
# [01:03] <luke> ?
# [01:03] <nthomas> cue *crickets*
# [01:04] <luke> i bet... khuey|way does!
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# [01:05] <WG9s> luke: you think he claims to know, or actually does? :-)
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# [01:06] <luke> WG9s: khuey has a knack for knowing about gross things
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# [01:06] <WG9s> but the origianl question was not who knows, it was who claims to know! ;-)
# [01:07] <Unfocused> i'm not sure that's something i would openly admit to
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# [01:10] <WG9s> Difference is 1: people how don;t have a clue but claim to know and; 2: People who do know but don't want to admit it because they don't want to be roped into working on it; vs 3: people who do know it and are willing to help. ;-)
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# [01:12] <mounir> cpearce: ping
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# [01:12] <cpearce> mounir: pong
# [01:13] <mounir> cpearce: is the fullscreen api implemented for Fennec?
# [01:13] <cpearce> mounir: "yes", but I have not tested it. margaret has reported some difficulties recently.
# [01:13] <mounir> cpearce: do you have any simple example page I could try to use?
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# [01:14] <cpearce> http://pearce.org.nz/full-screen/
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# [01:14] <cpearce> mounir: just heading of to lunch, bbl.
# [01:14] <mounir> cpearce: thanks
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# [01:15] <@smaug> mounir is still awake
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# [01:15] <mounir> smaug: I envy you!
# [01:16] <mounir> smaug: and I should go to sleep actually otherwise I will feel even worse tomorrow than today
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# [01:17] <cjones> cpearce, native-frontend-fennec?
# [01:17] <@smaug> mounir: just FYI, the people in the hotel will meet at 10am in the lobby
# [01:18] <mounir> cjones, cpearce: just tried, it's working with Fennec Native
# [01:18] <mounir> but not verry well
# [01:18] <mounir> the layout is pretty broken
# [01:18] <cjones> cool. good start
# [01:18] <mounir> maybe related to dbaron's patch
# [01:18] <mounir> cjones: I guess I could use that for screen orientation api then
# [01:19] <margaret> mounir: see bug 709813
# [01:19] <cjones> mounir, well, you need to test in b2g too :)
# [01:19] <mounir> cjones: btw, leaving fullscreen should unlock()?
# [01:19] <mounir> cjones: b2-what?
# [01:19] <cjones> :)
# [01:19] <cjones> leaving fullscreen should unlock orientation lock, you mean?
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# [01:20] <mounir> orientation lock_s_ even
# [01:20] <cjones> interesting question
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# [01:21] <cjones> that makes sense for the case we go fullscreen --> mode where lock isn't supported
# [01:21] <cjones> but it also means we might want a notification that the locks were killed
# [01:22] <mounir> cjones: we will get notifications that the orienatation has changed if it happens
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# [01:22] <mounir> cjones: we can fire an event to the ScreenLock object
# [01:22] <cjones> right, but dropping a lock doesn't necessarily change orientation
# [01:22] <cjones> yep
# [01:23] <mounir> but I shouldn't try to think about that know, it's late and I'm tired
# [01:23] <cjones> i'm trying to think of when that might be useful
# [01:23] <cjones> sure
# [01:23] <mounir> cjones: could you bring this to the list? with a solution that would be awesome :)
# [01:23] <cjones> dropping the locks makes sense when we go supported-state -> unsupported-state, but i'm not sure if we need a notification
# [01:23] <cjones> can resume tomorrow
# [01:23] <cjones> yeah, on my list
# [01:23] <mounir> thanks :)
# [01:23] <mounir> and night
# [01:23] <cjones> 'night
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# [01:54] <Mossop> Hrm, builds I'm doing on windows are just refusing to startup
# [01:55] <kwierso> Mossop: saw the same thing
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# [01:55] <kwierso> I gave up, personally
# [01:55] <kwierso> but then I don't NEED to do builds ;)
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# [01:55] <Mossop> Neither do I really these days, except for the occasional patch review
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# [01:56] <kwierso> maybe I should try something older than VC2010
# [01:56] <philor> bug 718541
# [01:57] <Mossop> ugh
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# [01:57] <philor> edmorley: wouldn't you rather push a merge to b-s, and then star all those native crashtests and reftests as fixed by it?
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# [01:58] <Mossop> Any reason that hasn't landed yet I wonder
# [01:58] <WG9s> Mossop: but the patch was just r+ at least.
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# [01:59] <edmorley> philor: yeah I suppose :-) though will inevitably have to play the pull-merge-push-strip game
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# [02:01] <philor> getting rid of it would probably be the best thing to do
# [02:01] <rnewman> anyone sheriffing inbound this afternoon?
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# [02:02] <edmorley> philor: the repo or those oranges?
# [02:02] <philor> edmorley: the repo
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# [02:02] <philor> they said they'd feed it and water it and walk it twice a day
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# [02:02] <philor> rnewman: yeah, edmorley is
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# [02:03] <philor> I saw him starring it
# [02:03] <edmorley> hehe
# [02:03] <philor> fingerprints all over it
# [02:03] <edmorley> that's cheating :P
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# [02:03] <edmorley> rnewman: were you needing a merge?
# [02:03] <edmorley> was eyeing one up
# [02:04] <philor> heh, he's only building on two platforms, no merges for him, two weeks!
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# [02:05] <philor> three if you count the platform that doesn't count, I guess
# [02:05] <rnewman> heh
# [02:05] <rnewman> edmorley: yeah, latest Sync drop to Fennec
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# [02:05] <rnewman> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=6eecafcc7914
# [02:06] <jaws> smaug: i'm working on bug 693230 at the moment fyi, but i think zwol can ping you again when i get the bug fixed
# [02:06] <philor> maybe trigger pgo on mak up above him, since that's where his Mac builds are anyway?
# [02:07] <edmorley> philor: done
# [02:07] <philor> cool
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# [02:10] <@smaug> jaws: ok, good to know
# [02:11] <edmorley> rnewman: it will be at least 90 mins before the non-android pushes prior are green (or more given infra load), and more like 3-4 hours for the pgo to go green (there are about 3-4 non-android csets since the last green PGO so could be worse I guess, but would probably still be best to wait)
# [02:11] <@smaug> jaws: there is just so much to review in zwol's bug
# [02:11] <jaws> smaug: yes.... :-/
# [02:11] <@smaug> jaws: so it will literally take days to review
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# [02:11] <jaws> smaug: i feel bad for the reviewers... and it is scary to me to know that everything will still work
# [02:12] <edmorley> rnewman: do you need it sooner? could double land on m-c if that helped
# [02:12] <jaws> smaug: i don't doubt that the reviewers can do a good job, but it is hard to catch a slight bug with all the refactorings
# [02:12] <@smaug> jaws: yeah
# [02:13] <@smaug> jaws: when the patches are finally reviewed, they should land to m-c very early in the cycle
# [02:13] <@smaug> like right after an Aurora uplift
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# [02:13] <jaws> yeah
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# [02:14] <@smaug> printing is tricky, since regressions are found slowly
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# [02:14] <@smaug> after clone-doc-for-printing, regressions were found like a year after the patch landed
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# [02:16] <WG9s> smaug:not sure that has to do specfiically with printing. has to to more i think with pre-rapid release and lots of things are not found until beta becuase manyu people refuse to run anything earlier than beta.
# [02:16] <WG9s> which is still really too late to be finding issues.
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# [02:17] <WG9s> even if it is only within 12 weeks now.
# [02:17] <@smaug> WG9s: well, it is also about printing
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# [02:17] <@smaug> printing is just very rarely used feature
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# [02:17] <@smaug> s/very/quite/
# [02:18] <@smaug> jaws: hey, are you interested in print preview UI ?
# [02:18] <WG9s> smaug: not really i use prinitng every time i order anything online.
# [02:18] <gavin> jaws: save yourself now!
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# [02:18] <biesi> WG9s, I suspect not everyone does that
# [02:18] <jaws> smaug: not really... maybe at a later date
# [02:18] <@smaug> gavin: jaws: it should be reasonable easy to improve pp UI
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# [02:18] <jaws> smaug: thanks for asking though
# [02:19] <gavin> smaug: I'm just joking
# [02:19] <@smaug> we already open pp in a new tab, it is just the UI which needs some modernizing
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# [02:19] <jaws> smaug: it would be nice to improve it, and would be a good win, but i don't want to take on more work until i am finished with the bugs i have already taken
# [02:19] <WG9s> But the real issue is trying to get poeple to test such things
# [02:19] <WG9s> like perhaps the testdays we have
# [02:19] <philor> downside of triggering on mak's push is that it needs a backout for busting tests :(
# [02:20] <WG9s> there should be a testday on nightly builds before they go to aurora for example. just a thought.
# [02:20] <edmorley> WG9s: I don't even own a printer
# [02:20] <WG9s> but you can do print previews.
# [02:20] <edmorley> (though conversely my dad is one of these annoying people that has their emails printed out for them every day at work)
# [02:20] <WG9s> or print to a psotscritp file etc.
# [02:20] <mak> philor: damn trimURL!
# [02:21] <jaws> yeah, that's a normal printing though. many bugs show up in areas where people have adjusted the margins to specific values, etc.
# [02:21] <WG9s> and perhaps I could even learn to type ;-)
# [02:22] <WG9s> But I think for the new way we do things there should be a test day for nightly before it goes to aurora and aurora before it goes to beta etc.
# [02:22] <WG9s> seems to make sense to me.
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# [02:22] <rnewman> edmorley: was hoping to avoid having to watch m-c while preparing aurora uplift, but I suppose I could!
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# [02:22] <WG9s> and not just have testdays on beta before release.
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# [02:23] <WG9s> there should be a testday at each stage of uplift.
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# [02:27] <mak> edmorley: backing out
# [02:27] <edmorley> mak: thanks
# [02:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/817dbb7ee947 - Richard Newman - Bug 720471 - Missing Arrays and SharedPreferences.Editor methods in Android SDK <= 8. r=rnewman
# [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4552b3b13be3 - Richard Newman - Bug 718928 - AndroidManifest.xml does not depend on Sync manifest include fragments. r=ted
# [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0d2c99684564 - Richard Newman - Bug 720933 - Android Sync 0.3 code drop. a=mobile
# [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dc81a55caf18 - Richard Newman - Bug 721129 - Incorrect BigInteger comparison in JPakeCrypto. r=dchan
# [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9d32ec36883b - Marina Samuel - Bug 709660 - correctly process resolution-specific Sync resources. r=mbrubeck r=rnewman
# [02:28] <rnewman> edmorley: double-landed :)
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# [02:29] <rnewman> thanks for timing info!
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# [02:29] <edmorley> rnewman: np :-)
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# [02:30] <gps> Aurora uplift happening? I'll try not to orange m-c for an entire day again!
# [02:30] <rnewman> heh
# [02:30] <rnewman> ME TOO
# [02:31] <gps> although nobody took me up on bug 712218, so I really have little incentive to not make that mistake again :)
# [02:31] <rnewman> not that I'll be able to uplift unless mobile/android/base's makefile changes get schlepped up first
# [02:31] <Unfocused> uplift on the 31st, so you have a few days to fix your orange
# [02:31] <rnewman> Unfocused: we're doing an earlier uplift first
# [02:32] <rnewman> this is a very very slushy freeze :)
# [02:32] <Unfocused> orly?
# [02:32] <gps> and Unfocused has a few days to bitrot everyone else's patches :)
# [02:32] <rnewman> tee hee
# [02:32] <Unfocused> heh
# [02:32] <Unfocused> shush you :P
# [02:32] <Unfocused> which reminds me, i need to fix up my lastest patch that'll bitrot everything...
# [02:33] <gps> hg rm xpcom ?
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# [02:34] <Unfocused> not quite that bad :P
# [02:34] <Unfocused> refactoring how many of the preferenes are used in the addons manager
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# [02:36] <kwierso> hrm, 27 minutes for a clobber build on Windows with Pymake on this laptop
# [02:36] <kwierso> me gusta
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# [02:37] <mwu> mak: looks like a new orange on your push?
# [02:37] <mak> mwu: backed out
# [02:38] <mwu> ah ok
# [02:38] <mak> but thanks
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# [02:42] <SeoZ> Andreas Gal here?
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# [02:44] <mwu> SeoZ: not at the moment
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# [02:45] <SeoZ> mwu: thanks :)
# [02:45] <SeoZ> mwu: what's his niick name on irc?
# [02:46] <SeoZ> or Doug Turner?
# [02:46] <SeoZ> i want to contact them.
# [02:46] <gavin> gal and dougt
# [02:46] <RyanVM> has anybody else been having problems with gmail for the last few days?
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# [02:48] <RyanVM> Source File: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=GgkbWT1cpLY.en.&am=!K44dex2vU9fZQv2QwUQ3cOvs29WB0V7rOEb7Sqjjbx092iPTTWejs2AkSSLTvRoEbw
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# [02:51] <RyanVM> OK, I guess I'm the only one with gmail issues then...
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# [02:59] <RyanVM> well, if anybody else *does* have gmail issues, feel free to comment in bug 721284
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# [03:36] <SeoZ> romaxa: hello, i'm Daniel Juyung Seo.
# [03:36] <SeoZ> romaxa: i'm talking with dougt :)
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# [03:41] <romaxa> SeoZ: ok
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# [03:42] <SeoZ> romaxa: i heard that you guys know each other :)
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# [03:44] <romaxa> SeoZ: not, much but meet couple of times ;)
# [03:44] <romaxa> :D
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# [03:46] <SeoZ> romaxa: that's great though :)
# [03:46] <SeoZ> maybe we will have lunch or dinner soon.
# [03:47] <romaxa> SeoZ: have you had any questions yesterday?
# [03:48] <SeoZ> romaxa: i need to read more about embedIPC and mails between you and kyungtae kim to ask more questions :)
# [03:48] <SeoZ> so no question atm.
# [03:49] <SeoZ> wait and see :)
# [03:51] <SeoZ> actually asking questions about gecko, etc. to dougt now.
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# [04:55] <biesi> hey j
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# [04:56] <biesi> j, what brings you to this server? :)
# [04:57] <j> I decided to download the mozilla-central repository and wade through the code, with hopes of some day contributing.
# [04:57] <biesi> nice!
# [04:57] <j> just to get a feel for what you guys do.
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# [04:58] <biesi> it's a big codebase
# [04:58] <j> fantasai and I got into an involved conversation about layout and I wanted to see what the code actually looked like.
# [05:00] <biesi> that is not necessarily the easiest part of the code to get into
# [05:01] <j> no. I discovered as much last night.
# [05:01] <biesi> :)
# [05:01] <j> anyways, gotta go for now. catch you later!
# [05:01] <biesi> cu
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# [05:16] <jlebar> Asa, Not doing so was the major mistake made with the AMO startup-time wall of shame, which was pretty controversial.
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# [07:28] <tbsaunde> ok, so, if I have heads for aurora and mozilla-central in the same repository and I want to pull a patch from m-c to aurora is there an easy way to do this like git cherry-pick?
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# [07:34] <philor> I think mbrubeck does roughly that for m-i / m-c merges
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# [07:35] <philor> though whatever it is he does always sounds too complicated for me to pay attention to, so it may not be :)
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# [07:36] <Mossop> I'd never risk putting heads for both in the same repository. I use hg transplant to copy changesets between repositories
# [07:37] <tbsaunde> yeah, it'd feel a lot safer without all the unnamed branches madness
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# [07:38] <Mossop> No problem with unnamed branches, just too much risk of me accidentally pushing the wrong things
# [07:39] <tbsaunde> Mossop: imo its a lot easier to be sure your pushing the right thing when branches have names
# [07:39] <Mossop> Not sure why that makes a difference really
# [07:39] <Mossop> Sure as heck doesn't for git!
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# [07:42] <philor> heresy! git solves everything
# [07:43] <qDot> Amen! Shun the non-believers!
# [07:43] <tbsaunde> I don't claim its perfect, but its a *lot* better
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# [07:45] <philor> I bet if we used git, I could get tbpl to load the summary for these accursed 4 media/ timeout failures
# [07:45] <tbsaunde> :p
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# [08:23] <philor> so, yay, great news, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712032 was fixed by turning off cache compression, but, wtf does that mean?
# [08:23] <philor> multiple slaves running tests on a single build somehow shared a single cache?
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# [08:24] <philor> some builds were built with a build-time pseudorandom number than made them mess up compression in the cache?
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# [08:28] <kwierso> philor: I just enjoy the lorem ipsum spam that tbplbot's providing
# [08:29] <philor> kwierso: but look, some of it's compressed, so it's not so spammy!
# [08:29] <philor> also? that's not tbplbot, that's the test, and the cache out of which it's read
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# [08:31] <philor> there's absolutely nothing that requires tests to output their entire great big long spew
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# [08:53] <glazou> bonjour
# [08:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/38eda0c8b0fd - Tim Taubert - Bug 455553 - Part 5 - New Tab Page tests and test suite; r=dietrich
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/746adaa9c9da - Tim Taubert - Bug 455553 - Part 3 - about:newtab integration; r=fryn,gavin
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/34157f4059ba - Tim Taubert - Bug 455553 - Part 1 - XUL/HTML Page and Scripts; r=blair,dietrich
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dca6fb65e46b - Owen Carpenter - Bug 716464 - Typing about:Addons into the url bar loads the add-ons manager but doesn't hide the address bar (the test is case sensitive). r=bmcbride
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/95143a881557 - Tim Taubert - Bug 455553 - Part 4 - Shared Module; r=blair,mak,dietrich
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3f30da5d0bc3 - Tim Taubert - Bug 455553 - Part 2 - Assets / CSS / Images; r=dao
# [08:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7f44427086f7 - Tim Taubert - Bug 717110 - [New Tab Page] Tooltips should be added to page thumbnails; r=dao
# [08:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/402b394b6623 - Tim Taubert - merge fx-team to m-c
# [08:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/74b125f29e23 - Tim Taubert - Bug 717492 - [New Tab Page] URL bar history pops up when pressing toolbar buttons; r=dao
# [08:55] <Unfocused> w00t
# [08:55] <darktrojan> ooh
# [08:55] <Unfocused> ttaubert++
# [08:57] <ttaubert> :)
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# [09:07] <kwierso> ttaubert: is it preffed on or off?
# [09:07] <ttaubert> kwierso: off
# [09:07] <ttaubert> bug 716538 tracks the dependencies necessary to pref it on for nightlies
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# [09:19] <regen> my latest nightly doesn't respect my wish to not search from address bar
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# [09:19] <cmr> Beat it harder
# [09:19] <regen> I told my firefox to do nothing when typing in address in urlbar
# [09:19] <regen> I dunno what happened
# [09:20] <regen> uh..Location bar I meant
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# [09:34] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: Can you give me a quick description of what this "new tab page" feature actually is?
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# [09:36] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: it's a speed dial feature
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# [09:37] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: http://cl.ly/0u3I3P0b3F1H2H2W2S0c
# [09:38] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: And here's my problem. Being totally blind, I can't see that image, thus it cannot explain this to me.
# [09:38] <philor> heh
# [09:38] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: oops sorry didn't know that :/
# [09:38] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: NP :)
# [09:38] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: I'm the guy who has to evaluate the accessibility of this new baby.
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# [09:39] <Unfocused> haha... epic fail
# [09:39] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: And for that, I need to know what it is supposed to do. :)
# [09:39] <cmr> It has 9 tiles containing the most visited pages in a 3x3 grid for easy access when launching a new tab.
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# [09:39] <ttaubert> yes, that
# [09:39] <darktrojan> for various vales of "easy"
# [09:39] <darktrojan> values
# [09:39] <cmr> Yeah, I don't consider clicking easy but my mother would disagree
# [09:40] <MarcoZ> cmr: Cool thanks! So it is similar to Safari's "Top sites" feature?
# [09:40] <cmr> MarcoZ: Yup! Also similar to chrome's
# [09:40] <MarcoZ> cmr: OK!
# [09:40] <ttaubert> cmr: you can disable it if you don't like it, I'm more of a keyboard user myself but it serves the mouse users :)
# [09:41] <darktrojan> ttaubert, does it have keyboard shortcuts?
# [09:41] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: It can also serve keyboard users if the grid is keyboard navigable.
# [09:41] <cmr> ttaubert: how is that page implemented? will pentadactyl follow them?
# [09:41] <hsivonen> NeilAway: Web XML doesn't use internal subsets except very rarely and doesn't use entities from outside the MathML set
# [09:41] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: yes but maybe not as quick as using the awesome bar
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# [09:42] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: It should still be keyboard accessible.
# [09:42] <ttaubert> darktrojan: it doesn't have any special shortcuts, just normal keyboard accessibility
# [09:42] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: it is, maybe not perfect yet
# [09:42] <ttaubert> cmr: pentadactyl?
# [09:43] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: Will check it out and file bugs if necessary.
# [09:43] <cmr> ttaubert: it's an extension (fork of vimperator) giving keyboard bindings for tons of things, like following links
# [09:43] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: thanks! keep in mind, it's pref'ed off for now
# [09:43] * MarcoZ thinks the exposure to assistive technologies of the most important content of these tiles is probably even trickier.
# [09:44] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: What's the pref's name?
# [09:44] <ttaubert> cmr: ah yeah that sounds familiar, hope the add-on dev includes the new tab page
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# [09:44] <NeilAway> lol @ about:Addons
# [09:44] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: you need to set 'browser.newtab.url' to 'about:newtab'
# [09:45] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: Cool thanks!
# [09:45] <glazou> hmmm
# [09:45] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: So could I also just enter about:newtab in the awesomebar for testing it without having to change a pref?
# [09:46] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: oh, yeah, that's easier :)
# [09:46] <MarcoZ> ttaubert: Groovy!
# [09:46] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: the grid is hidden by default, though, you need to 'show the grid' - there is a button
# [09:46] <MarcoZ> OK!
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# [09:48] <ttaubert> MarcoZ: and the accessibility bug for the page is bug 719675
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# [09:51] <MarcoZ> Cool, commented that I'll test the feature and report findings back there.
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# [10:45] <edmorley> ttaubert: I suspect philor might agree with you there :-)
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# [10:49] <@smaug> hsivonen: ah, I was wrong
# [10:49] <@smaug> .value uses serializer
# [10:49] <@smaug> (textarea/input)
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# [10:51] <hsivonen> smaug: also some contenteditable editing commands, it seems
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# [10:55] <NeilAway> smaug: do you remember whether we are still using <br>s in textareas?
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# [11:00] <@smaug> NeilAway: we aren't
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# [11:00] <@smaug> NeilAway: ehsan fixed that, IIRC
# [11:01] <@smaug> hmm
# [11:01] <@smaug> why are we using serializer
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# [11:01] <@smaug> or hmm, is there still some mysterious <br moz> somewhere in the native anonymous content
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# [11:07] <hsivonen> hmm. what's the --enable-application value for thunderbird these days?
# [11:08] <gcp> who are our SQLite experts?
# [11:08] <darktrojan> mine says mail
# [11:08] <hsivonen> darktrojan: thanks
# [11:13] <hsivonen> kinda scary that "XPCOM will be disabled for Web pages". So not completely disabled yet.
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# [11:14] <@khuey> hsivonen: well, that's what enablePrivilege does
# [11:14] <@khuey> it's not available by default of course
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# [11:20] <Standard8> hsivonen: mail
# [11:20] <Standard8> hsivonen: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Simple_Thunderbird_build
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# [11:23] <hsivonen> Standard8: thanks
# [11:24] <hsivonen> Standard8: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650776 on your radar? See comment 13.
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# [12:20] <jwatt> anyone know if http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/ is expected to work with Try?
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# [12:21] <jwatt> it seems to think there's no data for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3c3c80fb5b0d
# [12:21] <jwatt> but Talos tests were turned on
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# [12:24] <jfkthame> jwatt: there was some kind of try reset yesterday iirc, that may have broken it for you
# [12:25] <jfkthame> jwatt: unless your push was recent enough to ignore that
# [12:25] <jwatt> jfkthame: yeah, this push was after that though
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# [12:25] <jfkthame> dunno, in that case
# [12:25] <jwatt> thanks for the suggestion anyway
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# [12:30] <hsivonen> does it matter if Core-ish code lives under toolkit? should I move the code to Core?
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# [12:32] <jfkthame> bjarne: afaik .... i've backed out dao's changeset that turned X orange
# [12:32] <bjarne> jfkthame: ok - pushing...
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# [12:43] <gcp> did we enable compatible-by-default, and where?
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# [12:45] <Standard8> FF 10 & onwards
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# [12:47] <mak> edmorley: are you merging or do you prefer if I do?
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# [12:50] <edmorley> mak: I'm on a Skype call at the moment, I would be able to do one after (say 30 mins) if it hasn't been done by then
# [12:50] <mak> ok
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# [13:01] <@smaug> hsivonen: do you want bug 650784 to be fixed for FF12 ?
# [13:01] <@smaug> (just trying to prioritize my todo list)
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# [13:03] <hsivonen> smaug: It's not critical for 12. However, I could use your opinion on whether nsScriptableUnescapeHTML.h/cpp should stay in toolkit in order to avoid moving files or whether I should put them in a logical place (under parser/html/)
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# [13:04] <hsivonen> I'm not sure if we are trying to avoid moving files these days
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# [13:04] <hsivonen> but that class is in a weird place
# [13:04] <@smaug> hsivonen: I think we're not trying to avoid moving files anymore
# [13:05] <hsivonen> smaug: ok. I'll write part 1.5 then for moving that class
# [13:05] <@smaug> (although moving files makes reading blame harder)
# [13:05] <@smaug> ok
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# [13:10] <mak> edmorley: merged, but not yet marked bugs. going lunch and will do later, unless you want to begin before I'm back
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# [13:14] <hsivonen> Is there a reason why we put CIDs in separate .h files instead of putting them conveniently in the relevant idl file?
# [13:14] <hsivonen> other than pretending that interfaces and CIDs are totally unrelated
# [13:14] <Pike> not pretending it is
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# [13:44] <edmorley> mak: marked :-)
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# [13:44] <mak> edmorley: all of them?
# [13:44] <edmorley> mak: yup
# [13:44] <mak> wow, I was about to start, thank you!
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# [13:45] <edmorley> that's ok, Ms2ger did most of mine yesterday (and that was the 100+ cset merge), so I'm still in deficit :-)
# [13:46] <edmorley> or winning, depending on which way you look at it :-D
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# [13:48] <edmorley> (and Ms2ger, since I know you'll be peering in the logs, see yes I do say nice things about you too and don't just wind you up... ;-P)
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# [14:00] <hsivonen> aargh. the mechanism Thunderbird try uses for patching m-c is annoying if you are adding files to m-c or renaming files there
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# [14:04] <dao> hsivonen: can you comment in bug 721142?
# [14:05] <ted> ugh
# [14:05] <ted> my nightly builds have been super unresponsive lately
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# [14:06] <hsivonen> dao: ok. weird. last time I tested, it was pretty clear IE did tab stops, IIRC
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# [14:14] <protz> hsivonen: patching m-c ? you mean the fact the mozilla/ is a checkout of m-c inside c-c ?
# [14:14] <hsivonen> protz: yes
# [14:14] <protz> hsivonen: I think that's pretty much what all applications based on gecko do (seamonkey, songbird, instantbird...), do you have any better idea for handling this?
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# [14:15] <hsivonen> protz: how does the mozilla-* patch get applied on try?
# [14:15] <hsivonen> patch or qimport to mozilla/
# [14:16] <protz> that's a question for gozer in #maildev, although Standard8 might know :)
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# [14:22] <mak> jfkthame: thanks for the backout, I was doing but I hit a "new remote head" :)
# [14:23] <jfkthame> mak: oops, sorry to get in your way - didn't know anyone was working on it
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# [14:23] <mak> no worries!
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# [14:34] <sheppy> In-page (instead of the dialog-based) preferences… what release are we expecting that in? 12?
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# [14:42] <Mitch> When it's ready?
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# [14:43] <sheppy> Sigh. :)
# [14:43] <sheppy> Yeah.
# [14:43] <sheppy> Was hoping we had some idea when it was likely to go, but sounds like it's not that far along yet. OK.
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# [15:11] <sid0> it's a wonder our popup/panel code works :)
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# [15:15] <@khuey> s/popup\/panel//
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# [15:21] <sid0> khuey: I doubt most of our code has multiple bugs coming together to cancel each other out
# [15:21] <@khuey> I wouldn't be so sure
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# [15:22] <Ms2ger> sid0, we call that "the web"
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# [15:23] <sid0> Ms2ger: Mozilla's truly of the web, eh
# [15:23] <Ms2ger> Certainky
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# [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e3e1d313f956 - Tim Taubert - Bug 716855 - [Page Thumbnails] Screenshots should contain the the top-left corner; r=dietrich
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e758551e3924 - Tim Taubert - merge fx-team to m-c
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bff640abf40c - Tim Taubert - Bug 715710 - [New Tab Page] Black bars behind titles should be lowered in opacity from 80% to 50%; ui-r=limi r=dao
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# [15:34] <Ms2ger> OH: "i don't want to take on more work until i am finished with the bugs i have already taken"
# [15:36] <nigelb> True story.
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# [15:38] <Ms2ger> philor|away, any day is a good day for nice long strings of orange oths
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# [15:41] <Ms2ger> edmorley, thanks
# [15:41] <edmorley> hehe :-)
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# [15:43] <Yoric> There must be something I don't understand with xpcshell tests.
# [15:43] <Yoric> Quite often, I have tests that clearly fail, but show up as success.
# [15:44] * Yoric wonders what he can be missing.
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# [15:45] <Yoric> i.e. tests that end with |do_throw("foobar")| and still show up as success
# [15:45] <@khuey> Ms2ger: ping?
# [15:46] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [15:46] <@khuey> Ms2ger: is 'Constructor' a legal WebIDL interface name?
# [15:46] * @khuey thinks the answer is yes
# [15:47] <Ms2ger> I'll follow you on that
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# [15:53] <espindola> armenzg, should I push the patch in 721360?
# [15:54] <espindola> you you want to run it in your test setup first?
# [15:54] <espindola> or you...
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# [15:58] <armenzg> espindola: yes, feel free to land it on "default"
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# [15:58] <armenzg> if no one does a reconfig today I will do so tomorrow morning
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# [16:01] <espindola> armenzg, http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/rev/1b5f8b65e091
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# [16:02] <armenzg> thanks espindola!
# [16:02] <armenzg> for the sake of double checking I will trigger a build on my development master
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# [16:03] <espindola> it is good, just in case there was some other fix on central that needs to be ported too...
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# [16:04] <glandium> what is the component to report bugs about the talos regression numbers sent to dev-tree-management?
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# [16:06] <@khuey> in whatever component caused the regression
# [16:06] <@khuey> Core::Graphics for the Skia stuff
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# [16:07] <glandium> khuey: no i mean for the mails and data processing itself
# [16:07] <glandium> i cant stand that the ranges are so often just plain wrong
# [16:07] <@khuey> oh
# [16:07] * @khuey doesn't know
# [16:09] <Pike> glandium: there's Testing -- Talos
# [16:09] <armenzg> espindola: I have a slave running a job now
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# [16:09] <espindola> cool
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# [16:11] <glandium> Pike: isn't that for the testsuite itself?
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# [16:11] <Pike> glandium: folks there will move it elsewhere. same might happen if you just file it in mozilla.org -- release engineering ;-)
# [16:12] <glandium> true
# [16:12] <@smaug> jrmuizel: do you know how many cycles a virtual call usually causes?
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# [16:13] <jrmuizel> smaug: on modern intel chips they can be branch predicted, so I'd expect on the order of 2-3 cycles
# [16:13] <glandium> smaug: the overhead compared to a normal call is to read 2 pointers
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# [16:14] <glandium> one of which may be in a register already depending on what was done beforehand
# [16:14] <jrmuizel> smaug: did you mean an indirect call vs a direct call or a c++ virtual call vs a regular call?
# [16:15] <@smaug> well, I was just thinking about the sampler case...
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# [16:15] <@smaug> jrmuizel: I wouldn't accept a virtual call in that place in eventlistenermanager
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# [16:15] <@smaug> I think
# [16:16] <jrmuizel> smaug: how often is the function called?
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# [16:16] <@smaug> jrmuizel: depends on the case. in some tests thousands of time per event
# [16:16] <@smaug> in normal case a lot less
# [16:17] <@smaug> but still very often
# [16:17] <jrmuizel> that doesn't actually seem that hot to me
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# [16:17] <@smaug> jrmuizel: well, tests do create thousands of of events :)
# [16:17] <@smaug> 1000*1000 is already quite a lot
# [16:18] <@smaug> jrmuizel: but, I haven't profiled your change, so I don't really know whether it shows up in profiles
# [16:18] <@smaug> I'd need my macbook for Shark to profile
# [16:18] <jrmuizel> where does 1000*1000 come from?
# [16:18] <Ms2ger> 1000 events * 1000 calls / event
# [16:18] <jrmuizel> ah
# [16:19] <@khuey> 2200% regression
# [16:19] <@khuey> that's pretty impressive
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# [16:19] <jrmuizel> what's our event handling cost?
# [16:19] <jrmuizel> i.e. approx how many cycles would an empty event take?
# [16:20] <@smaug> jrmuizel: a lot, and I wouldn't want to add more there, but remove stuff
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# [16:21] <Ms2ger> Then again, I always do
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# [16:21] <@smaug> jrmuizel: what was the reason to add the macro precisely to that place?
# [16:21] <Ms2ger> khuey, \o/
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# [16:22] <@smaug> jrmuizel: would nsEventDispatcher::Dispatch work? it is a lot less hot
# [16:22] <jrmuizel> smaug: let me look
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# [16:27] <jrmuizel> smaug: yeah, I expect nsEventDispatcher::Dispatch would work fine
# [16:27] <jrmuizel> smaug: I'll move it there
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# [16:28] <@smaug> jrmuizel: thanks!
# [16:28] <jrmuizel> smaug: thanks for catching it :)
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# [16:30] <Ms2ger> OH: "There is no reason the script shouldn't be able to do what humans can"
# [16:31] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm?
# [16:31] <Ms2ger> (Admittedly misquoted)
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# [16:36] <hsivonen> do we have some documented design principles against abstractions that might allow stuff in the future but that don't serve any product feature right now?
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# [16:37] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: is that misquoted from a W3C discussion?
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# [16:37] <@smaug> hsivonen: I guess that depends so much on the case that it is hard to have any generic principles
# [16:37] <igor> on Linux a fresh build from mc tip gives: ABORT: file /home/igor/m/mc/ipc/chromium/src/base/histogram.cc, line 778 Is this know problem?
# [16:38] <@smaug> igor: have seen
# [16:38] <@smaug> and I just compiled mc
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# [16:39] <@smaug> or did someone just push a patch
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# [16:39] <igor> smaug: any workarounds?
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# [16:39] <@smaug> igor: oops. I meant: haven't seen
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# [16:40] <igor> smaug: ok, I wil try to bisect
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# [16:40] <@smaug> igor: hey, once you here, do you know if billm is trying to get incremental GC to FF12 ?
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# [16:41] <jwatt> anyone know what this means:
# [16:41] <jwatt> test_bug393970.xul | finished in a non-clean fashion (in chrome://.../test_moz_document_rules.html)
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# [16:41] <jwatt> specifically the "(in ...)" part
# [16:41] <igor> smaug: I am not sure, but he is close to landing...
# [16:41] <jwatt> why is it saying that one test is "in" another?
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# [16:44] <sid0> got 44.100006103515625, expected 44
# [16:44] <hsivonen> smaug: regarding design principles, I was wondering if there was some document I could appeal to in order to argue my case against configurability that's not exposed in either Firefox or Thunderbird UI right now in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650776
# [16:44] <sid0> :/
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# [16:54] <ejpbruel> i messed something up in my build config, configure looks for python in /sw/bin/python2.7, but i have it installed in opt/local/bin/python2.7
# [16:54] <ejpbruel> how do i get configure to look in the right place/
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# [16:55] <ejpbruel> distclean did the trick, thanks
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# [16:58] <gcp> khuey: ping
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# [16:59] <@khuey> gcp: pong
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# [17:01] <gcp> khuey: what's a large C++ landing and does it still need to be coordinated?
# [17:02] <@khuey> what do you want to land?
# [17:02] <@bz> gcp: anything that adds a bunch of C++ code
# [17:03] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c8fb4de41b94
# [17:03] <@bz> "a bunch" is tbd
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# [17:07] <@khuey> gcp: I'd just land it
# [17:07] <@khuey> it doesn't look big enough to worry about
# [17:07] <gcp> ok
# [17:07] <@smaug> so is the shutdown regression also in m-c ?
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# [17:09] <mak> smaug: yes
# [17:09] <mak> smaug: it's the newTab page, sadly
# [17:10] <@smaug> mak: is someone backing that stuff out?
# [17:10] <@smaug> and should I wait before pushing few my patches
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# [17:10] <BenWa> Is there an easy way to define (-DFOO) something in your mozconfig?
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# [17:12] <mak> smaug: don't think so, and it's a lot of dependencies. Not sure what to do. I mean, new regressions would still be reported on top of it...
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# [17:12] <@smaug> s/a/the/
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# [17:24] <espindola> armenzg, is the new run for 720377 in?
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# [17:24] <espindola> any regression on 10.6? Are the regressions on 10.7 the same?
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# [17:26] <espindola> at least the old reftest failures on 10.7 are probably from running the 32 bit debug build ..
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# [17:28] <espindola> in fact, all the previous 3 links were using the macosx32-debug dmg :-(
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# [17:29] <sheppy> Important documentation team request for developers! Please look over http://beta.elchi3.de/doctracker/#list=fx&version=10.0 and note any bugs that you think absolutely need to be documented before Firefox 10 ships.
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# [17:30] <sheppy> Technical problems slowed down Fx 10 documentation work and we will not have everything done by launch, so any help prioritizing would be nice. Feel free to log in on that page (it uses your Bugzilla login) and set the priority field on any bugs you have thoughts on.
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# [17:35] <Ms2ger> jwatt, aiui, it's calling SimpleTest.finish() after the next test started
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, no, bug 721387
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, now now, be nice
# [17:35] <ted> ugh
# [17:35] <ted> i am going to have to bust out a profiler
# [17:35] <ted> because these hangs are seriously bothering me
# [17:36] <jwatt> Ms2ger: weirdness
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# [17:38] <@smaug> compiles... time to push
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> Hah
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# [17:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7aef3dcb28d0 - Olli Pettay - Bug 720808 - Add nsJSEventListener and nsGlobalWndow to BBP, r=mccr8
# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2bfef4ad7ad3 - Olli Pettay - Bug 720630 - Add a way to unmark all the listeners in black documents, r=mccr8
# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85b19db37fd0 - Olli Pettay - Bug 720647 - Add message managers to black-bit-propagation, r=mccr8
# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/38768b0ef1af - Olli Pettay - Bug 719949 - Unmark listeners in XHR, WebSocket and EventSource if the object is black, r=mccr8
# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ee2d438cdd77 - Olli Pettay - Bug 720686, add some cycle collection optimizations to XPC, f=mrbkap,r=mccr8
# [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4fc8228cbfa5 - Olli Pettay - Bug 720536 - unmark ELM listeners, r=mccr8
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# [18:09] <luke> is there a bugzilla privilege required to to r+ patches?
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# [18:10] <jhammel> i *think* so?
# [18:10] <mak> luke: I suppose editbugs is enough
# [18:10] <mak> not sure though
# [18:10] <Ms2ger> I can do it
# [18:11] <luke> mak: what does it take to get 'editbugs' ?
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> luke, an email to gerv
# [18:11] <Pike> bribe someone like me
# [18:11] <sheppy> Asa hooked me up with it.
# [18:11] <luke> Pike: i have... whisky
# [18:11] <Callek> donuts
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# [18:11] <Ms2ger> http://www.gerv.net/hacking/before-you-mail-gerv.html
# [18:11] <sheppy> Whiskey and donuts.
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> Whiskey donuts
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# [18:12] <sheppy> Whiskey donuts with bacon.
# [18:12] <Pike> donuts don't work, but whis*e*y would
# [18:12] <Callek> also acceptable, maple bacon chocolate cake
# [18:12] * Pike doesn't want to end up with borbon
# [18:12] <sheppy> Hm.
# [18:12] <luke> Pike: it was really for santiago.gimeno@gmail.com
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# [18:13] <luke> Pike: so he can r+ the patch i made to code he wrote :)
# [18:13] <Ms2ger> Pike, I'll support that
# [18:13] <Pike> Ms2ger: the borbon or the editbugs?
# [18:13] <WeirdAl> uh, whoopsie on mozilla-inbound, anyone seen dao?
# [18:13] <WeirdAl> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22797d62aa14#l4.26
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# [18:14] <Ms2ger> The editbugs
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# [18:14] <WeirdAl> oh, never mind, he moved it elsewhere
# [18:15] <Pike> luke: which bug? just to pretend that I fact-check
# [18:15] <luke> Pike: 720695
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# [18:15] <Ms2ger> 720695... What he said
# [18:15] <luke> Pike: and thanks
# [18:15] <Pike> PS: he doesn't even have canconfirm yet, so that might the first barrier ot review
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# [18:16] <luke> Pike: ah, good to know. i am not familiar with the lattice
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# [18:16] <Pike> updated
# [18:16] <luke> righteous
# [18:17] <lurking> don't you have to be a module peer or something to r+ patches ?
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# [18:18] <Pike> depends on teh module. an mostly no, anyone can review a patch, but not everyone's review suffices to land
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# [18:18] <luke> lurking: there is dual-review on the patch for that purpose
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# [18:18] <lurking> ahh, OK, I'm not all that familiar wither with the protocols
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# [18:31] <jwatt> wow, does mochitest keep a window open for every test it runs, and then close them all at the end?
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# [18:31] <@khuey> no
# [18:32] <gavin> it uses one window for all tests
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# [18:32] <gavin> (some tests open their own windows)
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# [18:32] <jwatt> so what's with the --DOMWINDOW in the logs starting at "--DOMWINDOW == 824" and working its way down?
# [18:32] <gavin> some windows are sometimes leaked
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# [18:32] <@khuey> is this mochitest-browser-chrome?
# [18:33] <gavin> which variant of mochitest?
# [18:33] <jwatt> mochitest-chrome
# [18:33] <jwatt> 824 windows?
# [18:33] <gavin> well, content windows most likely
# [18:33] <jwatt> sure
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# [18:33] <gavin> but yeah that sounds like it needs investigation!
# [18:33] <bhearsum|buildduty> jwatt: 32-bit linux, 64-bit linux, or mac?
# [18:33] <bhearsum|buildduty> i have all available
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# [18:34] <gavin> in all likelihood just tests doing wacky stuff, but dao has investigated similar issues with mochitest-browser-chrome that was partially the fault of real leak bugs
# [18:34] <jwatt> bhearsum|buildduty: mac please
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# [18:36] <cesar> I created a reduced test case for a bug I found. But I am not sure how I could distribute the test case. It needs to call a nsIDocument.ForceEnableXULXBL which is not scriptable. I use a binary extension to do it, but maybe there is a better way?
# [18:36] <bhearsum|buildduty> jwatt: sorry - 10.5 or 10.6?
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# [18:37] <jwatt> bhearsum|buildduty: 10.6 please
# [18:37] <@smaug> cesar: write a chrome test?
# [18:37] <bhearsum|buildduty> k
# [18:37] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'll have it ready in about 30min
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# [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d1cdc35292f1 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 34157f4059ba (bug 455553)
# [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f47e281a0509 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 7f44427086f7 (bug 717110)
# [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7cdb5f5d38c6 - Tim Taubert - Bug 721398 - moz-page-thumb protocol should not access from a web page; r=mak
# [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/02512dac94c9 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 746adaa9c9da (bug 455553)
# [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d1334baf2c1 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 3f30da5d0bc3 (bug 455553)
# [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bc1dcb97c141 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset bff640abf40c (bug 715710)
# [18:38] <jwatt> bhearsum|buildduty: thanks, I'll be in a meeting shortly for about an hour
# [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3677a84a568b - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 38eda0c8b0fd (bug 455553)
# [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/330a6839466e - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 95143a881557 (bug 455553)
# [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/104bc7e10373 - Tim Taubert - Backed out changeset 74b125f29e23 (bug 717492)
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# [18:40] <jwatt> khuey, gavin: I'm going to file a bug on the leaks - do you know which component I should put it under?
# [18:40] <@khuey> jwatt: Core::General, probably
# [18:40] <jwatt> ok
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# [18:41] <cesar> smaug: chrome tests are all done in Mochitest right? The interface which contains ForceEnableXULXBL is not accessible from JS (in that there is no idl file for it)
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# [18:42] <@khuey> you shouldn't need to ForceEnableXULXBL in a chrome test
# [18:42] <@khuey> it's already enabled
# [18:42] <Mardak> jwatt: for pointer-events: none; is there a way for me to set that on a xul:browser yet have the content of it set pointer-events: auto?
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# [18:43] <jwatt> Mardak: yes, put pointer-events:auto on a wrapper child
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# [18:43] <jwatt> Mardak: or else using a "*" child selector
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# [18:44] <cesar> khuey: even for HTML pages? If I load google.com would it automatically let me put XBL content in there? (I should have been more clear about that)
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# [18:44] <@smaug> cesar: why do you need ForceEnableXULXBL ?
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# [18:45] <@smaug> cesar: ah, hmm
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# [18:45] <@smaug> just a second
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# [18:45] <@smaug> cesar: do you have a minimal testcase ?
# [18:45] <Mardak> jwatt: mm, i'm not sure what's a wrapper child. what i have right now is a xul:browser with style pointer-events:none; and attribute transparent=true sitting on top of other chrome
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# [18:46] <Mardak> jwatt: so in my content loaded src="my page.." i have a transparent background for showing the original chrome below the xul:browser, but i want it to be able to partially overlay chrome with non-transparent pointer-events: auto; content
# [18:47] <jwatt> Mardak: wrapper child == an element you add to contain all the children of the xul:browser, so that it's now the only child of the xul:browser, and so you can add pointer-events:auto to it
# [18:47] <cesar> smaug: yes, in that I have a xml file
# [18:48] <@smaug> cesar: and yes, if you load html page as a chrome document, it has "enableXULXBL"
# [18:48] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp#3919
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# [18:49] <jwatt> Mardak: but that may not work if that wrapper takes up the same area (in terms of intercepting pointer events) as the xul:browser does
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# [18:49] <jwatt> which I'm assuming a XUL element would
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# [18:49] <Mardak> jwatt: can you link me to some code/tests that does that? i thought the 1 child of a xul:browser is automatically #document of the content?
# [18:50] <cesar> smaug: I tried putting this xml this into about:config which has enableXULXBL on. But it didn't reproduce the problem. So it might not work with chrome documents
# [18:50] <jlebar> bsmedberg, any chance you'd be able to review the FallibleTArray change before we branch? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719531 (You r+'ed the test, but not the patch.)
# [18:50] <jwatt> Mardak: I don't have an example for XUL
# [18:50] <@bsmedberg> huh really
# [18:50] <espindola> armenzg, http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=MozillaTest/1327362803.1327363627.25353.gz&fulltext=1
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# [18:50] <espindola> that is still using the 32 bit build
# [18:51] <jwatt> Mardak: try |browser > * { pointer-events:auto; }|
# [18:51] <jwatt> Mardak: does that work?
# [18:51] <armenzg> espindola: I will check in a bit
# [18:51] <armenzg> release + lunch
# [18:51] <jwatt> I have an example for HTML somewhere, but i'm not sure where
# [18:51] <@bsmedberg> whoops, I managed to forget my review queue while I was in To
# [18:51] <espindola> ok, thanks
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# [18:51] <@smaug> cesar: could you perhaps pastebin the test?
# [18:52] <armenzg> espindola: hrrmmm... I will have to reverify everything
# [18:52] <cesar> sure
# [18:52] <espindola> armenzg, :-(
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# [18:52] <armenzg> espindola: even "opt" I was running incorrectly
# [18:52] <espindola> np, ping me when you have the new tests...
# [18:52] <armenzg> since it is a 32-bit *debug*
# [18:52] <armenzg> not the universal as I thought it was doing
# [18:52] <espindola> yes, looks like everything is using the 32 bit debug build ...
# [18:53] <armenzg> why do I use scripts!?!
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# [18:53] <armenzg> (that I write myself)
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# [18:54] <stefanh> dao: do you know when you'll get to bug 713446?
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# [18:55] <jwatt> Mardak: I can't find that example right now, and I have to go to a meeting
# [18:55] <jwatt> I'll have to come back to this after
# [18:55] <Mardak> jwatt: ok thanks. i'll try playing around with what you suggested
# [18:55] <jlebar> bsmedberg, thanks!
# [18:56] <jet> jfkthame: Is bug 677144 related to your other antialiasing bug 719410 ?
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# [18:57] <cesar> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463308
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# [18:58] <@smaug> cesar: and what is broken?
# [18:58] <@smaug> I wonder what nt="action" means
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# [18:59] <cesar> smaug: you see xbl:handler? It is supposed to be event="action" but I think I chopped off a few characters with vim ;)
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# [18:59] <cesar> anyways, when I put that in a HTML document, Firefox crashes for me. At least, a debug build does
# [18:59] <@smaug> cesar: stack trace please
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# [19:00] <jfkthame> jet: no, that's a different issue, something to do with the Layers system
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# [19:00] <bhearsum|buildduty> jwatt: which account has your ssh key attached to it? gmail or mozilla?
# [19:01] <@smaug> hey, am I still online
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# [19:04] <jlebar> smaug, yes?
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# [19:05] <jhammel> smaug: nope
# [19:05] <@smaug> :p
# [19:05] <@smaug> I was just surprised that suspending this laptop didn't disconnect me from irc
# [19:06] <armenzg> espindola: sorry about the mess. the next batch that I triggered this morning should be good
# [19:06] <armenzg> I assumed the "opt" builds from early this week had been pointing to the "universal"
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# [19:07] <Mardak> anyone familiar with how fennec was retargeting events to a xul:browser? i'm trying to pass mouse events from one xul:browser that sits in a stack over another xul:browser.
# [19:07] <espindola> armenzg, np. Let me know when the results are in and I will try to debug any new failures.
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# [19:07] <cesar> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463313 (from VS)
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# [19:08] <espindola> armenzg, about the "build on 10.6" change, do you think we should try to port it to beta if the aurora builds are green?
# [19:08] <armenzg> espindola: on another side, the 10.5 leak build on aurora passed. I am triggering once more since it failed few steps like downloading previous leak logs
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# [19:08] <espindola> armenzg, cool
# [19:08] <@smaug> cesar: ah, that is new stuff
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# [19:08] <armenzg> espindola: do you want to talk with jo and johnath about it?
# [19:08] <@smaug> cesar: file a bug and CC Enn
# [19:09] <armenzg> it is late in the game and I am not sure anyone would want to touch anything
# [19:09] <cesar> Enn?
# [19:09] <armenzg> if they thing is safe and convince drivers then we are good
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# [19:09] <espindola> armenzg, when is the beta -> release change happening?
# [19:09] <armenzg> and we won't even need darwin9 slaves for the ESR! :P
# [19:09] <armenzg> espindola: next Tuesday
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# [19:10] <espindola> yes, ESR is the main reason for me to want to port it
# [19:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> technically, the beta->release merge is happening today or tomorrow
# [19:10] <armenzg> they will probably be creating the FF10 final builds tomorrow though
# [19:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> we're not shipping until tuesday though
# [19:10] <armenzg> espindola: ^
# [19:10] <espindola> armenzg, by jo you mean jp?
# [19:10] <armenzg> espindola: yep
# [19:10] <espindola> jprmc, ^ :-)
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# [19:10] <glandium> ehsan: i'm getting between 64 and 85fps on your webglgears test. shouldn't i be capped at 60?
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# [19:11] <espindola> johnath, ^
# [19:11] <glandium> (what's interesting, though, is that when it's not displayed, i get < 1 fps, which is nice :) )
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# [19:25] <sid0> glandium: that's because timers fire once a second if a tab's not active, I believe
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# [19:25] <bahamas> hello. can anyone give me any pointers on how I can find a solution for this issue: I'm trying to open Firefox's cookies.sqlite file. on Linux, I can open it without problems, but on Windows I get "DatabaseError:file is encrypted or is not a database"
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# [19:28] <johnath> espindola: send a note to release-drivers with the ask?
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# [19:29] <espindola> johnath, will do
# [19:30] <jwatt> Mardak: did you have any luck?
# [19:30] <Mardak> jwatt: so i've used pointer-events in html with outer containers :none; and arbitrary descendants with :auto; and that works ine
# [19:31] <Mardak> *fine. but when it crosses from chrome xul:browser to the descendant content of the browser, it doesn't work
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# [19:32] <jwatt> Mardak: it sounds like you need to file a bug then :(
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# [19:32] <jwatt> did you try it with content containing an iframe?
# [19:33] <jwatt> it may just be the window boundary that's causing an issue, rather than chrome-content boundary
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# [19:35] <Mardak> jwatt: i just tested with a html iframe, and the content of the iframe only gets events if the iframe has :auto;
# [19:35] <Mardak> if the iframe container is :none; setting :auto; in the iframe contents also doesn't work
# [19:35] <jwatt> yeah, ok
# [19:36] <jwatt> Mardak: can you file a bug?
# [19:36] <Mardak> component?
# [19:36] <jwatt> Mardak: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&component=SVG
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# [19:43] <espindola> johnath, is it release-drivers@mozilla.com?
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# [19:43] <espindola> .org I guess...
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# [19:57] <cshields> jhopkins: Standard8: ping.. have you seen any issues pushing to hg (ala 718979)?
# [19:57] <Standard8> cshields: nafaik, but we probably won't know until tagging 10.0 final tomorrow
# [19:58] <cshields> ok..
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# [19:58] <Standard8> cshields: i.e. so far we've only really seen it whilst we've been doing release builds
# [19:59] <jhopkins> yes
# [19:59] <jhopkins> i mean, agreed
# [19:59] <Mardak> jwatt: i made a test case with html frames https://bug721454.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=591857
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# [20:00] <cshields> ok, let me know then guys!
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# [20:03] <@bsmedberg> luke: ping
# [20:03] <luke> bsmedberg: pong
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# [20:03] <@bsmedberg> luke: when you say "defers calls to _evaluate" what do you mean? (bug 720624)
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# [20:03] <sid0> when's the next m-i merge happening?
# [20:03] <sid0> ehsan: ^ ?
# [20:04] <@ehsan> sid0: I don't do a lot of merges these days...
# [20:04] <mak> sid0: when we get a pgo from the current merge of central
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# [20:04] <luke> bsmedberg: i meant "wait until after NPP_GetValue has returned before calling _evaluate"
# [20:04] <sid0> ehsan: ah, sorry
# [20:04] <luke> bsmedberg: i don't know when that is. can we wait until the next turn of the event loop to dispatch it?
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# [20:04] <luke> bsmedberg: or is that too long
# [20:05] <WeirdAl> hsivonen: what time frame are we looking at for banning chrome sync XHR?
# [20:05] <sid0> mak: thanks
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> luke: no, it would deadlock
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> luke: you have RPC messages on both sides
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# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> so you have to pick one to go first
# [20:05] <luke> bsmedberg: so, right now, how do we know when to inject plugin callbacks?
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> inject?
# [20:05] <@bsmedberg> we typically respond to RPC messages at the top of the event loop
# [20:06] <@bsmedberg> unless we have to process them earlier because of races
# [20:06] <luke> bsmedberg: and we can't tolerate any out-of-order execution in the browser process?
# [20:07] <@bsmedberg> we decided after looking at the data that it's better to have the plugin win
# [20:07] <luke> bsmedberg: hmm, well i guess the plugin is waiting for _evaluate to return a value, hun..
# [20:07] <@bsmedberg> yeah, you have to pick one
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# [20:07] <luke> bsmedberg: ok, i see
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# [20:08] <luke> bsmedberg: wasn't thinking about the return value of _evaluate
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# [20:27] <jrmuizel> gavin: can you review https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/aboutjank/?
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# [20:28] <Mossop> Hrm, why are my builds failing in gfx now
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# [20:30] <gavin> jrmuizel: yeah maybe
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# [20:31] <gavin> jrmuizel: where's the code?
# [20:32] <Mossop> jfkthame_afk: ping
# [20:32] <jrmuizel> gavin: doesn't that get uploaded to amo?
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# [20:32] <jfkthame> Mossop: pong
# [20:32] <jfkthame> did i break something?
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# [20:32] <gavin> jrmuizel: yes, but AMOs interface is annoying. is it in hg somewhere?
# [20:32] <jrmuizel> gavin: yes
# [20:32] <jrmuizel> gavin: https://github.com/jrmuizel/about-jank
# [20:32] <gavin> thanks
# [20:32] <gavin> git, r-
# [20:33] <Mossop> jfkthame: Getting build errors locally: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463356
# [20:33] <jhammel> gavin++
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> Seconded
# [20:34] <jfkthame> Mossop: hmm, that's odd - it doesn't seem to be broken on m-i
# [20:34] <Mossop> Maybe because I'm on VS2010?
# [20:35] <jfkthame> maybe ... i'll try it locally on windows, see if i can reproduce
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# [20:35] <jfkthame> offhand, it looks like a missing #include
# [20:35] <jfkthame> which may not be needed on older VS because it happens to get pulled in by something else
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# [20:35] <Mossop> Trying clobbering, just in case
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# [20:36] <Callek> jimm: ping
# [20:36] <jfkthame> Mossop: i doubt it'll help - if you want a quick workaround, you could disable graphite.....
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# [20:36] <Callek> jimm: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=567911&action=edit bitrotted or have you tested, willing to land etc?
# [20:37] <jfkthame> Mossop: find MOZ_GRAPHITE=1 in configure.in and remove the "1"
# [20:37] <Mossop> Ok, I'll do that for now. Should I file a bug?
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# [20:38] <jfkthame> Mossop: yes please, and cc me
# [20:38] <jfkthame> Mossop: i'll try to repro a bit later this evening, need to run for a bit - but having a bug on file is always good
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# [20:44] <jlebar> mm, is something burning?
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# [20:44] <jlebar> mbrubeck, ^
# [20:44] <romaxa> bsmedberg: ping
# [20:44] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: pong
# [20:45] <mbrubeck> jlebar: Hmm, I guess so.
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# [20:45] <romaxa> bsmedberg: is there aer any big reason why sqlite library not compiled into libxul, like cairo or pixman?
# [20:45] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: yes, because we share it with NSS
# [20:45] <mbrubeck> actually it looks like jmaher has a separate problem... whee, more backouts
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# [20:47] <romaxa> bsmedberg: hmm, I'm trying to solve problem related to mozsqlite vs system sqlite confliting when I use gecko in embedding mode
# [20:47] <gavin> jrmuizel: https://github.com/jrmuizel/about-jank/pull/1
# [20:47] <romaxa> bsmedberg: bug 719655
# [20:47] <gavin> jrmuizel: I think the unregisterFactory change is important, I'll approve on AMO with that
# [20:47] <gavin> jrmuizel: (I haven't tested that)
# [20:47] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: huh, I thought we renamed the symbols
# [20:47] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: we probably should
# [20:47] <jrmuizel> gavin: I'll pull and reupload to amo
# [20:47] <jrmuizel> gavin: thanks for the review
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# [20:47] <romaxa> bsmedberg: would it be reasonable to rename sqlite_moz
# [20:48] <romaxa> oh
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# [20:50] <romaxa> bsmedberg: what is the right way to do that? should I just rename sqlite.h/c functions with some script and all callers in storage and security? or only sqlite.h/c add some wrapper similar to cairo-rename.h and include that into nss/storage?
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# [20:51] <@bsmedberg> I don't actually know how I'd do it, I'd have to look at the setup
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# [21:00] <mak> sid0: fwiw, I triggered pgo on my central-to-inbound merge, in the hope to merge that. if you were looking for your patch that is just before my merge, we just have to wait for those win pgo things
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# [21:01] <jrmuizel> gavin: I've put a new version up with your changes
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# [21:01] <mbrubeck> Hmm, maybe my patch just needed a clobber.
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# [21:03] <mak> mbrubeck: well you can always clobber, retrigger and backout the backout
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# [21:03] <mak> hm no, not backout the backout, it's coalesced
# [21:04] <mbrubeck> I prefer re-landing the original patch anyway.
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# [21:04] <mbrubeck> Looks nicer in the blame. :)
# [21:04] <gavin> jrmuizel: did you test them?
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# [21:05] <gavin> jrmuizel: I guess I will anyways
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# [21:07] * mbrubeck <3 new clobberer
# [21:08] <catlee> woot
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# [21:09] <NeilAway> gavin++
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# [21:11] <mwu> huh, new cloberrer
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# [21:13] <mreavy> sworkman: Hey Steve, it's Maire Reavy. Would you like to go to lunch with me and Randell Jesup? We could then transition into our meeting.
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# [21:18] <gavin> jrmuizel: does about:jank need to do something to stop the profiler on shutdown/uninstall?
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# [21:19] <jrmuizel> gavin: it probably should
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# [21:22] <gavin> jrmuizel: will it get turned off after restarting if it doesn't?
# [21:22] <jrmuizel> gavin: restarting firefox?
# [21:22] <gavin> yeah
# [21:23] <jrmuizel> yeah, it doesn't persist the on-ness of the profiler
# [21:23] <gavin> ok
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# [21:25] <gavin> jrmuizel: I reviewed the addon and now it seems to have disappeared
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# [21:28] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I've put up some more cleanup I hope you'll like :)
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# [21:31] <Mardak> is there a way to get an element given some mouse coordinates and a xul:browser?
# [21:31] <jrmuizel> gavin: thanks
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# [21:31] <Ms2ger> // MOOSE: we should group the children together if possible
# [21:31] <Ms2ger> Say what?
# [21:31] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm sure I'd like them!
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# [21:32] <jwatt> when invoking mochitest/runtests.py, does anyone know how to specify the xpcshell path?
# [21:33] <gavin> does runtests.py --help not mention it?
# [21:33] <jwatt> no
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# [21:33] <gavin> probably not an option for it then
# [21:33] <dholbert> jwatt, looks like --utility-path might
# [21:33] <jwatt> ah
# [21:33] * jwatt tries that
# [21:33] <dholbert> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/runtests.py?mark=92-94#92
# [21:34] <Ms2ger> One could spend a lifetime cleaning up editor
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# [21:35] <Mook_as> Mardak: you probably want to look for things on nsIDOMWindowUtils?
# [21:35] <gavin> elementFromPoint
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# [21:37] <jwatt> dholbert: yeah, that kinda helps
# [21:38] <jwatt> so let me be more specific
# [21:38] <jwatt> does anyone know how to get the test bundles from try to run locally?
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# [21:42] <Mardak> Mook_as, gavin: thanks, hopefully i can use that to take a mouse event and redispatch it to elementFromPoint of a different xul:browser
# [21:43] <gavin> Mardak: fennec used to do that
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# [21:43] <Mardak> ok that's what i thought. and it's necessary to dispatch to an element and not just a xul:browser's contentWindow, yeah?
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# [21:53] <W4RP3D> hi , can anybody help me with PHPBB coding ?
# [21:53] <W4RP3D> please
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# [21:56] <@smaug> W4RP3D: you are aware that this is Mozilla #developers channel ?
# [21:56] <W4RP3D> oops..... no i was not aware
# [21:56] <W4RP3D> Sorry, do you know any channel where I could get help for this?
# [21:58] <jbuck> firebot: uuid
# [21:58] <firebot> f000afac-11b3-4c06-a35f-8db411f1cf54 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [21:58] <W4RP3D> anyway ill try to find one, sorry, cya
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# [22:02] <Ms2ger> At this rate, I'll end up owning editor :/
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# [22:03] <Ms2ger> And then edmorley has even more opportunities to laugh at me :\
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# [22:04] <kbrosnan> someone start a dev-planning thread, Ms2ger wants to own editor
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# [22:05] <Ms2ger> kbrosnan, I'm afraid I shall be leaving for webkit
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# [22:05] <@smaug> Ms2ger: sounds good!
# [22:05] <@smaug> er
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> smaug, why thank you
# [22:05] <@smaug> that was about owning editor
# [22:06] * Ms2ger rm -rf's his mozilla trees to make room for webkit
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# [22:06] <@smaug> don't leave for webkit
# [22:06] <@smaug> no no
# [22:06] <Ms2ger> Alright, if you ask so nicely
# [22:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: we all like you :)
# [22:06] * Ms2ger coughs
# [22:06] <sheppy> Especially because he's going to own editor!
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# [22:07] <Ms2ger> sheppy, want to be a peer? :)
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> Or I'll make it use lots of templates first...
# [22:08] <lurking> Ms2ger: Give me to gun before you shoot yourself in the other foot
# [22:08] <@smaug> oh, Ms2ger owns editor code and sheppy is a peer
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# [22:08] <@smaug> sounds better all the time
# [22:08] <sheppy> Ms2ger: I'll peer into the padded cell we keep put you in after you've spent a few months as editor owner.
# [22:08] * Ms2ger passes lurking the gun
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> Thanks, good idea
# [22:08] <jhammel> Ms2ger: don't forget pointers to member functions!
# [22:08] * sheppy replaces all the editor code with Beef-a-roni.
# [22:08] <sheppy> Let's see if anyone notices.
# [22:09] <jgilbert> template & macro stew, mmmm
# [22:09] <jhammel> template macros? ;)
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# [22:09] <jgilbert> only the finest ingredients
# [22:10] <@smaug> I have a bad feeling...
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# [22:10] <@smaug> I will own docshell at some point
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# [22:10] <jhammel> smaug: sounds like you just volunteered!
# [22:10] <NeilAway> so, when is the next inbound merge due?
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# [22:11] <@smaug> I'll own it only after I'm done with CC and MutationObserver ... and some other stuff
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [22:11] * Ms2ger puts that on his list for 2015
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# [22:11] <lurking> NeilAway: someone said the next merge would be after m-c gets a green PGO build
# [22:11] <@smaug> I'm done with CC next Tuesday
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# [22:12] <@smaug> MutationObserver two weeks from that, I hope
# [22:12] <Ms2ger> sheppy, you could change the page... But it uses mediawiki
# [22:12] <Ms2ger> smaug, that would be great ;)
# [22:12] <sheppy> hahaha
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# [22:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> espindola: you're still using talos-r3-fed-010? (np if you are, just checking)
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# [22:14] <espindola> bhearsum|buildduty, might be. The bug I needed it for is still open, trying another patch
# [22:14] <espindola> I will update the bug if it is all green
# [22:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> np
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# [22:23] <jfkthame> Mossop: ping
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# [22:23] <Mossop> jfkthame: pong
# [22:23] * jwatt discovers that bugzilla lost his "track SVG component" option
# [22:23] <jfkthame> Mossop: i just posted a patch in bug 721466....
# [22:23] <jwatt> no wonder my bugzilla mail has been quiet for a while
# [22:23] <jfkthame> Mossop: could you verify that it resolves the problem for you?
# [22:23] <jwatt> err, well, quiet*er*
# [22:24] <Mossop> jfkthame: Yeah in a little while
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# [22:25] <jfkthame> Mossop: thanks - if it works (seems to for me locally), i think we should land it asap
# [22:25] <@smaug> jwatt: hey, I have an SVG bug for you. I have a tool which creates massive SVG files in some case (cycle collector graphs) and Firefox is a bit slow with such files :)
# [22:25] <@smaug> they are something like 10MB
# [22:25] <mcsmurf> so there's Components.interfaces.nsIImageDocument and there is ImageDocument (this is new to me)
# [22:26] <mcsmurf> does now every nsI* interface "translate" to an object?
# [22:26] <jfkthame> smaug: you just need a faster computer :)
# [22:26] <mcsmurf> or just this one?
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# [22:26] <biesi> mcsmurf, all nsIDOM*
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# [22:26] <biesi> and, apparently, some others!
# [22:26] <@smaug> yeah, all nsIDOM
# [22:26] <@smaug> and some others
# [22:26] <mcsmurf> ok
# [22:26] <@smaug> like nsIXMLHttpRequest, nsIWebSocket etc
# [22:27] <WeirdAl> how is that implemented? I've wondered for years.
# [22:27] <mcsmurf> this already exists for years? :o
# [22:27] <mcsmurf> (I dunno)
# [22:27] <WeirdAl> oh, yes
# [22:27] <@smaug> WeirdAl: there is a special case for nsIDOM*
# [22:27] <@smaug> you could look at scriptnamespacemanager
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# [22:28] <@smaug> WeirdAl: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsScriptNameSpaceManager.cpp#217
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# [22:29] <@smaug> jfkthame: faster...hmm, there aren't really too much faster laptops
# [22:29] <WeirdAl> interesting
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# [22:30] <@smaug> WeirdAl: that all, I assume, will change a bit with new DOM bindings
# [22:32] <WeirdAl> what _are_ DOM bindings, anyway? I get that they're different than XBL bindings, but that's all I get :)
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# [22:33] <@khuey> WeirdAl: the code that glues JS and C++ together
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# [22:33] <@khuey> today they're XPConnect and quickstubs
# [22:34] <WeirdAl> oh, XPConnectish space
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# [22:34] <@khuey> tomorrow they will be generated C++ glue
# [22:34] <@khuey> (not literally tomorrow)
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# [22:35] <@smaug> khuey: tomorrow!
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# [22:35] <@khuey> smaug: maybe for xhr
# [22:35] <@smaug> well, hopefully first version of one such binding
# [22:35] <@khuey> if we're lucky
# [22:35] <@khuey> and depending on how late we stop working
# [22:35] * @smaug could try to help tomorrow if I get this CC stuff done today
# [22:35] <@smaug> khuey: sorry that I've been busy with other things
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# [22:36] * WeirdAl wonders idly how domjs is proceeding
# [22:36] <@khuey> this stuff doesn't really parallelize to 8 different engineers anyways
# [22:36] <@smaug> yeah
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# [22:37] <@smaug> WeirdAl: you could look at github
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# [22:37] <WeirdAl> I did; no checkins in a month
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# [22:38] <WeirdAl> I don't even know where to reach those guys - I thought they hung out in here
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# [22:39] <@khuey> my understanding is that dflanagan got a little burned out and is working on something else for a bit
# [22:39] <@khuey> we'll probably have an intern working on it in a few months too
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# [22:43] <jhammel> is hg slow or is it just me?
# [22:43] <jhammel> i mean in particular right now for mozilla repos, not the broad philosophic discussion
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# [22:45] <mconnor> jhammel: nice save
# [22:45] <jhammel> :)
# [22:46] <jhammel> been waiting on a talos checkout for > 10 min
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# [22:59] <Wiesel> Hi guys. I want to develop a Firefox extension, which makes use of XTF (like Xforms). Do my users need to have an XTF-enabled build to see the elements I created internally?
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# [22:59] <Wiesel> that seems to be necessary back in 2004 as this website suggests: http://www.croczilla.com/~alex/fosdem2004/xtf-tags.html
# [23:00] <Wiesel> * seemed
# [23:02] <@smaug> Wiesel: XTF is enabled by default
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# [23:02] <jwatt> bug 699538 is really killing me
# [23:03] <Wiesel> smaug, cool! Do you know since which Firefox version?
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# [23:03] <jwatt> at least it seems not by how few people are CC'ed
# [23:03] <@smaug> Wiesel: since ages...
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# [23:04] <@smaug> really, XTF has been enabled for a long time
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# [23:04] <biesi> Wiesel, long enough that you don't have to worry about it :-)
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# [23:05] <Wiesel> ok, that's good to know. Do you know of any useful up2date documentation concerning the creation of XTF elements?
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# [23:06] <@smaug> Wiesel: not really
# [23:06] <@smaug> xforms is the only addon I know which uses it
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# [23:06] <@smaug> Wiesel: you could ask me, and I could try to remember how XTF works :)
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# [23:06] <@smaug> I haven't looked at that code for some time
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# [23:08] <@smaug> If I use NS_NAMED_LITERAL_STRING and the string is too long to fit in one line, how do I make it compile on windows?
# [23:08] <@smaug> "" (\n) "" doesn't work on windows IIRC
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# [23:08] <@smaug> do I need to use L?
# [23:09] <Wiesel> smaug, If you are the same smaug from this article (http://alexvincent.us/blog/?p=382) you really seem to know a lot about XTF ;)
# [23:09] <Mook_as> smaug: NS_NAMED_MULTILINE_LITERAL_STRING ?
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# [23:09] <Wiesel> smaug, If I run into any trouble, I'll let you know, thanks for the offer
# [23:09] <@smaug> Mook_as: oh, we have such
# [23:09] <@smaug> Wiesel: there is only one smaug here ;)
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# [23:10] <Mook_as> you may need to wrap the literal bit with NS_LL, see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsLiteralString.h#114
# [23:10] <Mook_as> (well, once per chunk)
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# [23:13] <WeirdAl> I've used XTF in the past, I still remember a lot about it
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# [23:13] <WeirdAl> <== Alex Vincent :)
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# [23:14] <@khuey> heycam: I'm sure I can come up with some questions
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# [23:14] <@khuey> heycam: though I did get my original question answered
# [23:14] <heycam> ok
# [23:14] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, yeah, I guess I've found the right place :-)
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# [23:15] <@khuey> heycam: is there a way to specify default values for optional arguments (through extended attrs?)
# [23:15] <WeirdAl> what's your goal, Wiesel ?
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# [23:16] <heycam> khuey, there is not currently, no
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# [23:16] <Wiesel> XTF doesn't seem to be used a lot these times. Does it still make sense to use it or has it already been replaced by something else?
# [23:16] <WeirdAl> first question you should answer is "Why do I need a new XML language?"
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# [23:16] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, I try to write a firefox extension for XML3D (http://www.xml3d.org/)
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# [23:17] <Wiesel> I don't really need a new language. I just need a new tag
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# [23:17] <WeirdAl> hmm
# [23:17] <@smaug> WeirdAl: XTF is still there, and it is still probably the easiest way to add support for new XML namespaced elements
# [23:17] <blizzard> dude
# [23:17] <blizzard> you just said XTF
# [23:17] <WeirdAl> better than WTF :p
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# [23:18] <WeirdAl> Wiesel: which element?
# [23:19] <jhammel> there is something hideously wrong with the XML3d solar system demo ;)
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# [23:19] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, the xml3d element
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# [23:20] <Wiesel> blizzard, hey, XTF could really save me. don't you make fun of it. ;-)
# [23:20] <jwatt> smaug: file a bug? :)
# [23:20] <Wiesel> jhammel, what is wrong with it?
# [23:21] <WeirdAl> well, it appears this is just implementing a DOM, no content... so yeah, you should be fine with XTF, Wiesel.
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# [23:21] <Wiesel> jhammel, you may need some additional stuff to get everything to run
# [23:21] <jhammel> Wiesel: eh, nothing big....earth didn't appear for awhile and the moon almost crashed into mercury
# [23:21] <jhammel> ....not sure how that's really possible ;)
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# [23:21] <lurking> strong solar-wind
# [23:21] <Wiesel> :D
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# [23:22] <Wiesel> jhammel, maybe try the native browsers provided on the website
# [23:22] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, ok, that's what I wanted to read
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# [23:22] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, I remember you mentioned in your post that XBL2 may make XTF obsolete one day
# [23:22] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, That's just why I asked
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# [23:24] <jtcranmer> people are actually working on XBL2?
# [23:24] <mcsmurf> XBL2, XTF, can it get worse ;)
# [23:24] <jorendorff> OK, I have a product question.
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# [23:24] <jorendorff> I recently landed Map and Set builtins for JavaScript, bug 697479.
# [23:24] <jorendorff> So that's awesome.
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# [23:25] <@khuey> heycam: we're likely to implement that for our own use
# [23:25] <@khuey> seems like something worth speccing
# [23:25] <jorendorff> These will be in the next edition of the ECMAScript standard. But they are not fully baked yet. API changes will occur; there is a chance there could be breaking changes.
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# [23:26] <WeirdAl> mcsmurf: oh, yes it can...
# [23:26] <WeirdAl> trust me, I'm working on making something even worse ;)
# [23:27] <WeirdAl> Wiesel: XBL2 is still a "someday" project
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# [23:27] <WeirdAl> sicking owns it
# [23:27] <heycam> khuey, ok. I was hoping to finish the last couple of open issues in the spec and then prep the document for last call. so I might see if I can slip it in. :)
# [23:27] <WeirdAl> I'd say go with XTF for now
# [23:28] <Wiesel> Ok, will do that although it looks a bit complex at first glance
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# [23:28] <jorendorff> Question: should I turn off Map and Set (or make it pref'd off by default) for the next branch? Or keep it?
# [23:28] <WeirdAl> Wiesel: yeah, it's intimidating at first, but really, it's easier to work with than you might think
# [23:29] <WeirdAl> if you catch me later today I can probably provide some very old boilerplate code to make your life easier
# [23:29] <jorendorff> blizzard: I'm particularly interested in your opinion on this question
# [23:29] <blizzard> jorendorff: hmm?
# [23:29] <blizzard> jorendorff: which question?
# [23:29] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, ok. If I fail I will just wait for your (even worse) project ;-)
# [23:29] <mcsmurf> jorendorff: how long will it take (roughly) until the next edition of the ecmascript standard is ready?
# [23:29] <mcsmurf> just wondering
# [23:29] <Wiesel> WeirdAl, that would be veeeery awesome
# [23:30] <jorendorff> blizzard: I landed new JS builtins, Map and Set. I'm worried we don't know if they do exactly what the eventual standard is going to say. Should I turn them off before this coming branch.
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# [23:30] <blizzard> jorendorff: or turn them off on the branch
# [23:30] <@smaug> WeirdAl: FYI, it is unclear whether we should implement shadow DOM/web components or XBL2
# [23:30] <blizzard> jorendorff: probably a good idea
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# [23:31] <@smaug> I should review shadow DOM proposal
# [23:31] <blizzard> jorendorff: unless it's privately namespaced, which I suspect it's not
# [23:31] <jorendorff> it's not.
# [23:31] <@smaug> (it is in some ways more limited than XLB2)
# [23:32] <jorendorff> privately namespaced… "MozMap"? meh
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# [23:34] <@smaug> jlebar: is mozilla::content::internal really used elsewhere?
# [23:35] <jlebar> smaug, Don't think so. Is there a different namespace you'd prefer?
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# [23:35] <jlebar> smaug, I just hate leaving these internal classes in the global namespace.
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# [23:35] <jlebar> I could make the class internal to nsGenericHTMLFrameElement.
# [23:35] * @smaug would prefer using less namespaces...
# [23:35] <@smaug> mozilla::dom ?
# [23:35] <jlebar> smaug, I think that battle has been lost. :)
# [23:35] <jlebar> smaug, mozilla::dom::internal would be fine with me.
# [23:36] <@smaug> why does it need to be internal ?
# [23:36] <jlebar> smaug, Because nobody else should use the class.
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# [23:36] <jlebar> smaug, "Polluting the global namespace." :D
# [23:36] <@smaug> bah
# [23:36] <WeirdAl> jorendorff: well, here's a thought: is it possible to define a MozBuiltIn namespace, where Map and Set are properties? I'm thinking as a library developer, what if someone writes their own Map function and I accidentally use theirs instead of the native one...
# [23:36] <jlebar> smaug, Why don't I just move it inside nsGenericHTMLFrameElement?
# [23:36] * jlebar is happy to do that.
# [23:36] <@smaug> sounds ok to me
# [23:37] <jlebar> smaug, thanks for looking at my patch so quickly!
# [23:37] <jorendorff> WeirdAl: oh, that's true of every global name though
# [23:37] <jorendorff> what if someone writes their own Array function?
# [23:37] <WeirdAl> which is my point
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# [23:38] <WeirdAl> a read-only built-in of native ctors would be pretty nice, defensively
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