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# [00:02] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-rename.h
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# [00:05] <romaxa> bsmedberg: yep, but that stuff does not prevent sqlite.so from exporting sqlite3_ symbols
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# [00:18] <bbondy> taras: Can I filter data by channel on the telemetry dashboard, if not is there a task for that I can CC myself on?
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# [00:18] <masterofhats> xpidl (header.py) stopped working for me in Gecko 10 beta. Quick google revealed nothing. Suggestions? bsmedberg?
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# [00:23] <Waldo> jtcranmer: top. men. are working on xbl2
# [00:24] <romaxa> bsmedberg: I've created sqlite3-rename.h, added it into sqlite3.h, but it does not have any effect, and I did not get how it could have any effect
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# [00:26] <jtcranmer> Waldo: orly?
# [00:26] <Waldo> jtcranmer: top. men.
# [00:26] <jtcranmer> then Prove It
# [00:26] <Waldo> although I believe the right response was, "who?"
# [00:27] <Waldo> jtcranmer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/quotes
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# [00:27] * jtcranmer was making a reference to Magic School Bus
# [00:27] <Waldo> went over my head :-)
# [00:27] * Waldo played some sort of magic school bus computer game a bit, was aware of the books, never did much beyond that
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# [00:28] <Swatinem> philor: hi, you there?
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# [00:29] <taras> bbondy: should be in a couple of days
# [00:29] <taras> we just landed that
# [00:29] <bbondy> great thanks
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# [00:30] <taras> bbondy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720785
# [00:30] <bbondy> thx
# [00:31] <taras> romaxa: why are you messing with sqlite symbols?
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# [00:31] <sicking> khuey|away: bah
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# [00:33] <romaxa> taras: I use gecko in embedding mode, so native UI (Qt/QtSql which is linking against system sql), and as soon libxul loaded it is loading also mozsqlite and after that QtSql goes into mozsqlite
# [00:33] <romaxa> taras: and crash
# [00:33] <taras> yuck
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# [00:34] <philor> Swatinem: I am
# [00:34] <Swatinem> philor: awesome
# [00:34] <romaxa> taras: and I don't understand how to add rename wrapper without changing nss/storage sqlite->_moz_sqlite calls and keeping mozsqlite library as shared at the same time
# [00:34] <Swatinem> I’d like to get logs in mysql landed on the staging server
# [00:35] <Swatinem> so you have access to that, right?
# [00:35] <philor> no more access than you do
# [00:35] <philor> land in the repo, it auto-updates every 15 minutes
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# [00:36] <Swatinem> yep
# [00:36] <Swatinem> but it needs an additional table
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# [00:36] <Swatinem> thats what i need before pushing
# [00:36] <Swatinem> otherwise it will break
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# [00:37] <philor> ah, alas, that would be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&component=Server%20Operations:%20Web%20Operations
# [00:37] <philor> rhelmer: you don't have any access to tbpl-dev, do you?
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# [00:39] <masterofhats> never mind, works now... python and windows...
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# [00:39] <jduell> froydnj: ping
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# [00:46] <Swatinem> philor: can we get this done tomorrow? I’m kind of in bed already :-D
# [00:47] <gavin> ehsan: are you a better reviewer for bug 649840 than I am?
# [00:47] <@ehsan> firebot: bug 649840
# [00:47] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649840 nor, --, mozilla6, linux.anas, RESO FIXED, RTL on forms inputs autocomplete
# [00:47] <@ehsan> gavin: sure, please switch the review to me
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# [00:49] <blizzard> robcee: I have a scratchpad feature request
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# [00:49] <blizzard> robcee: "save as JS bookmark"
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# [00:50] <robcee> copy and paste!
# [00:50] <robcee> but yeah
# [00:50] <robcee> that'd be fun
# [00:50] <robcee> file it!
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# [01:01] <jaws> roc: ping?
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# [01:03] <froydnj> jduell: pong (in and out atm, though)
# [01:03] <jduell> froydnj: hey, I've looked over your patch
# [01:03] <jduell> nice stuff
# [01:03] <froydnj> thanks for looking at it!
# [01:03] <jduell> i was wondering how much time you'd have to spend on this, as I have some ideas
# [01:04] <froydnj> depends how complicated the ideas are :)
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# [01:04] <jduell> In particular, I've discovered that gperf has a -P flag that makes it generate strings the same way that your patch does
# [01:04] <jduell> and it also generates the hashtable statically, so we don't have to construct a 5K-entry hashtable at startup--it's just ready as it loads off the disk
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# [01:05] <froydnj> ah, so go see whether gperf does any better than what we have now?
# [01:05] <jduell> The one thing it doesn't have is that it provdes an "int" offset, rather than a 16 bit offset. But I'm guessing we could either hand-tweak that, or patch gperf to
# [01:05] <jduell> have a flag for 16-bit offsets
# [01:06] <froydnj> I could easily imagine that for a 5k entry perfect hash, you'd need > 16 bits for addressing
# [01:06] <jduell> (Since we only need to change the generated .c code when the ETLD list changes, we don't have to wait for gperf changes to filter out to all dev's)
# [01:07] <jduell> Well, we should find out. There are lots of knobs that one can tweak. And even if the hashtable's table is >16bits, the actual offset in the entries doesn't need to be >16bits so long as the strings stay less than 64K
# [01:07] <jduell> right?
# [01:07] <@ehsan> is somebody planning to merge inbound to central within the next few hours?
# [01:08] <froydnj> oh, oh, I see what you're saying. yes, that's probably true
# [01:08] <jduell> froydnj: so I'm planning on giving it a quick go today, but if it takes longer than that, I might have to punt to you.
# [01:08] <mak> mrbkap: ping
# [01:08] <jduell> Would you have time for it?
# [01:08] <@ehsan> mak: perhaps you? :)
# [01:08] <mak> ehsan: what?
# [01:08] <froydnj> jduell: I might not get it done straightaway, but I'll definitely have time to poke at it this next release cycle
# [01:08] <mak> ehsan: I just merged minutes ago...
# [01:09] <@ehsan> mak: are you planning to merge mc and mi within the next few hours?
# [01:09] <@ehsan> oh you did?
# [01:09] <@ehsan> dammit
# [01:09] <@ehsan> I guess I'll push to central then :/
# [01:09] <mak> yes, though there's still lot of backlog in inbound
# [01:09] <@ehsan> ok, it's fine
# [01:09] <@ehsan> thanks :)
# [01:09] <mak> yw!
# [01:10] <jduell> froydnj: ok, cool. In the bug you say you save 40-50K binary size. I was wondering how you get to that. By my calculation, the space saving
# [01:10] <jduell> is all by going from 8 byte entries to 4 bytes
# [01:10] <jduell> and with 5K entries, that's 20K for 32 but, 40KB for 64 bit.
# [01:10] <jduell> Is there more stuff I'm missing? Do we save space from the relocations too?
# [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/347bd6430923 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 721564 - Get module information for the profiler on Windows; r=BenWa
# [01:11] <froydnj> yeah, 8 bytes/relocation, and we currently have one relocation per entry
# [01:11] <mak> ehsan: though, you may mark a couple security bugs for me :)
# [01:11] <jduell> froydnj: 8 byte on 64 bit, and 4 bytes on 32 bit?
# [01:11] <@ehsan> mak: of course
# [01:11] <mak> ehsan: Bug 664737 Bug 720305
# [01:11] <froydnj> jduell: 8 bytes on 32-bit (x86/arm linux), 24 bytes on 64-bit linux
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# [01:12] <jduell> froydnj: ah, good to know. OK cool. Sorry it took so long to review this--none of us on the necko team actually knew the code at all :)
# [01:12] <mak> ehsan: thanks!
# [01:13] <@ehsan> mak: done
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# [01:13] <froydnj> jduell: :) I thought about having Waldo take a lot at it, since his name was on the python code
# [01:14] <jduell> froydnj: yeah, he's usually busy :) It's good to know it--I'm up to speed now.
# [01:14] <Waldo> hmm?
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# [01:14] <jduell> Waldo: Effective TLD database, in case you really want to know. Bug 704848
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# [01:17] <Waldo> hmm, that's quite the blast from the past
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# [01:18] <Waldo> froydnj: note that MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT from "mozilla/Assertions.h" is preferable to PR_STATIC_ASSERT; just add an explanation string literal as a second argument to switch
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# [01:22] <froydnj> Waldo: true. can't recall whether MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT existed two months ago :)
# [01:22] <Waldo> probably not :-)
# [01:22] <Waldo> well
# [01:22] <Waldo> I think, starting *today*, it did, now :-)
# [01:22] <Waldo> or maybe two days ago
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# [01:22] <jduell> froydnj: Waldo: I also thought of a way to avoid doing 5000 static asserts :)
# [01:22] <Waldo> still, probably not on the radar much
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# [01:24] <Waldo> less code is usually nicer
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# [01:24] <jhammel> thats why i make all of my programs just exit 0 right off the bat
# [01:24] <jhammel> also, the only program i have ever written was `true` ;)
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# [01:28] <Waldo> bad jhammel, no documentation, someone else had to do it for you http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/oreilly/truenut.html
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# [01:30] <jhammel> yeah, i was hoping to do the consulting thing until mike taylor ruined it for me :/
# [01:30] <jhammel> now you have all these script kiddies running around invoking true like they're hackers
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# [01:36] <jhammel> sounds like you could use some highly paid consulting!
# [01:36] <WG9s> guess not but that is kind of backwards since false is defined as zero and true is defined a NOT false.
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# [01:36] <jhammel> not for exit codes
# [01:37] <WG9s> well you see not on all operating systems.
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# [01:37] <WG9s> VMS had tha lame odd even scheme
# [01:37] <WG9s> so the low order bit indicated success or failure
# [01:37] <jhammel> well, VMS had a lame everything ;)
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# [01:44] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: ping
# [01:45] <cdleary> can anybody point me at a function that can deflate a PRUnichar string into a C string?
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# [01:47] <froydnj> cdleary: something like NS_LossyConvertUTF16toASCII?
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# [01:48] <ejpbruel> can we have 64-bit constants in IDL currently?
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# [01:48] <ejpbruel> id like to extend the chrome flags to 64-bit, since i need an additional flag, and theyre all taken atm :)
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# [01:49] <NeilAway> jhammel: you don't actually write `true`, since it's an empty file :-P
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# [01:51] <jhammel> beh, that's for wimps
# [01:51] <Jesse> mbrubeck: can you fix this template so the bug number always gets linked? i've seen other people use the template incorrectly too. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721301#c1
# [01:52] <Jesse> oh, you used it correctly
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# [01:53] <Jesse> it was used incorrectly in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714067#c10
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# [01:53] <jhammel> i do `import random, sys; b=random.random(); sys.exit(-((2*b or not 2*b) - True)
# [01:53] <philor> jlebar: woo, made it four pushes before your test failed!
# [01:53] <jhammel> thats a true with some hair on its chest
# [01:54] <jlebar> philor, My day was going too well, anyway.
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# [01:55] <jlebar> philor, where's the fire?
# [01:55] <jlebar> oh, that reftest? Mmmm
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# [01:56] <philor> jlebar: no, not the reftest, that's a badslave, four pushes up from you
# [01:56] <jlebar> Aha.
# [01:56] <philor> the reftest is just what you get when you run Mac reftests at 800x600
# [01:57] * jlebar has been pushing a lot lately, wasn't sure four pushes up from which.
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# [01:59] <philor> ah, indeed, that crashtest shutdown is also on you :)
# [02:00] <philor> though all in all, I'd blame media/ whether or not they're actually on the stack
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# [02:01] <philor> but indeed, they are all over multilple threads, I'll just star it as whatever
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# [02:11] <masterofhats> I just found out by accident as header.py would not work any longer
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# [02:13] <ejpbruel> anybody around with some IDL know how?
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# [02:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c07595bee6cf - Gregory Szorc - Merge mozilla-central into services-central
# [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2879d93049e8 - Murali - Bug 715877 - JPAKE pairing code is not accessible to accessibility APIs. r=philikon
# [02:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/93c071e2d4ea - Gregory Szorc - Bug 710448 - Rewritten Sync record reconciling to handle edge cases; r=rnewman, r=philikon
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# [02:23] <WeirdAl> ejpbruel: ask
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# [02:23] <ejpbruel> WeirdAL: im trying to extend the chrome flags constants to 64-bit (i need an additional flag, and the existing ones are all taken), but the IDL compiler complains constants can only be unsigned short or unsigned long, not long long
# [02:24] <WeirdAl> oh, I think that's an old, old bug
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# [02:25] <WeirdAl> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374231
# [02:26] <ejpbruel> DO NOT FIX THIS WITHOUT PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR JAVASCRIPT *FIRST*.
# [02:26] <ejpbruel> right
# [02:26] <ejpbruel> this might be non-trivial to fix
# [02:26] <ejpbruel> especially for what i want to do (which is essentially a prototype)
# [02:26] <WeirdAl> sorry :|
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# [02:27] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: naw, its the answer i needed :)
# [02:27] <ejpbruel> thanks!
# [02:27] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: ping
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# [02:29] <tbsaunde> ejpbruel: just do the dumb thing and have two bit fields?
# [02:30] <ejpbruel> tbsaunde: yeah, my original idea was to add an additional boolean to the function i want to change
# [02:30] <ejpbruel> tbsaunde: bsmedberg suggested we might use a chrome flag instead, since then we wouldnt have to change any function prototypes
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# [02:31] <ejpbruel> tbsaunde: ofc, since all the chrome flags are taken, extending them to 64-bit would be more actually intrusive, not less
# [02:31] <ejpbruel> so i think ill revert to the original plan
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# [02:33] <ejpbruel> tbsaunde: would that ever be r+'d though?
# [02:33] <WeirdAl> ask the peers :)
# [02:35] <tbsaunde> ejpbruel: why not?
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# [02:36] <tbsaunde> ejpbruel: well, if you goal is less intrusive the bool might be better
# [02:37] <Mook_as> or possibly a second 32-bit flag param?
# [02:37] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: who are the peers in this case? benjamin told me this part of the code is currently unowned
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# [02:37] <tbsaunde> ejpbruel: but if your api needs a set of bits > 32 then 2 bit fields seems fairly reasonable
# [02:37] <ejpbruel> Mook_as: the problem is that if i actually extend the chrome flags i have to alter every piece of code that uses them, and i suspect thats not easy to find (since chrome flags are just a PRUint32)
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# [02:38] <ejpbruel> Mook_as: I only need this flag in one specific location, so a boolean seemed better to me
# [02:38] <ejpbruel> Mook_as: that way i would only have to refactor code that calls into the function i changed, which is much easier to find
# [02:38] <Mook_as> ejpbruel: well, either add a boolean or add a pruint32, what's the difference? they're both adding a param
# [02:38] <WG9s> ejpbruel: If a review objects on the this shoudlbe a chrome flag then just give that explanation. Thehy will either agree or give you a way to do it using chrome flags that perhaps you have not thought of.
# [02:39] <ejpbruel> Mook_as: makes no difference to me, just making sure im not going against good practice here :)
# [02:39] <ejpbruel> WG9s: fair enough
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# [02:39] <Mook_as> ejpbruel: I think good practice starts with not listening to random people on IRC ;)
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# [02:40] <WeirdAl> Mook_as++
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# [02:41] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: is it possible to specify default args in IDL?
# [02:42] <WeirdAl> I don't think so, but that may have changed in the last year or so
# [02:42] <Mook_as> yes, but they always default to 0 / false / null
# [02:42] <Mook_as> (via [optional])
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# [02:43] <WeirdAl> I did think of optional, but that wasn't precisely what he asked
# [02:43] <Mook_as> oh, and they don't apply to c++, it's always required there; and they must be at the end of the arg list, of course. yada yada.
# [02:43] <ejpbruel> ugh
# [02:43] <ejpbruel> why dont we have more documentation on IDL, anyway?
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# [02:43] <WeirdAl> s/on IDL//
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# [02:44] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: well, I mention IDL in particular because its one of these all pervasive things. you can't really do anything substantial without it.
# [02:44] <WeirdAl> oh, really? :)
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# [02:44] <WeirdAl> if you're operating in pure JS, XPCOM is actually frowned on these days
# [02:45] <WeirdAl> if it's JS calling on C++, there's quickstubs
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# [02:45] <WeirdAl> if it's C++ calling on JS, yeah, you're outta luck
# [02:45] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: well, im mostly operating in C++, so thats my perspective. XPCOM wont go away, no matter how hard people frown.
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# [02:46] <WeirdAl> who are the callers?
# [02:47] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: C++
# [02:47] <WeirdAl> actually, step back: what part of the code are we talking about?
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# [02:47] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: yeah good point. basically im changing nsIAppShellService
# [02:47] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: it has a function, CreateTopLevelWindow
# [02:47] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: i want to extend it so it can create hidden windows instead
# [02:48] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: the idea is that we want to be able to use the window watcher to create hidden windows (via openWindow, which calls CreateTopLevelWindow if the window is a chrome window)
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# [02:48] <WeirdAl> ok, so why do you need another flag?
# [02:49] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: right now CreateTopLevelWindow assumes that you only want to use it to create non-hidden windows
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# [02:49] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: this is a problem, because it always registers these windows with the window mediator
# [02:49] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: so i want to tell CreatTopLevelWindow: don't do that, I'm never going to call Show on this window
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# [02:50] <WeirdAl> ah, you're talking about PRUint32 aChromeMask
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# [02:50] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: yes
# [02:50] <WeirdAl> yeah, screw it, just define another boolean for now
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# [02:50] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: good enough for me :)
# [02:50] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: does what im doing make sense to you btw?
# [02:51] <WeirdAl> just enough, yes
# [02:51] <WeirdAl> don't ask me to review :p
# [02:51] <ejpbruel> :D
# [02:51] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: jimm already volunteerd for that, no worries
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# [02:52] <WeirdAl> ejpbruel: should that no-show be usable by privileged script?
# [02:52] <WeirdAl> or native code ONLY?
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# [02:52] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: the former. the background story is that we need a dedicated hidden window in the addon-sdk, to which we can control access
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# [02:53] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: right now we use the special hidden window provided by firefox to do things like loading documents that stay alive even if the last window closes
# [02:53] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: but other addons can (and have, in the past) overwritten the document loaded in the hidden window, which completely breaks our API
# [02:53] * WeirdAl notes that he also forgets to explain the why's behind questions up front ;)
# [02:54] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: not so much forgetting as not wanting to repeat myself 5 times a day unless people are interested :)
# [02:54] <jaws> kinetik: ping?
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# [02:54] <WeirdAl> ejpbruel: the important thing is that these interfaces are no longer frozen, so if it doesn't work, it can be changed easily
# [02:55] <WeirdAl> and this is deep in the guts of the thing anyway, not a lotta people calling on it
# [02:55] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: true
# [02:55] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: but thats also why im cautious :)
# [02:55] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: C++ doesnt scare me but changing anything deep in the platform does, tbh
# [02:56] <WeirdAl> anybody messing around with the app shell service really should know what they're doing
# [02:56] <WeirdAl> not you, I mean
# [02:56] <WeirdAl> addon devs
# [02:56] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: true
# [02:56] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: im in this awkward position as one out of two platform devs for the addon-sdk team
# [02:57] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: which means that i dont really get to specialize in anything
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# [02:57] <WeirdAl> I know that feeling ;)
# [02:57] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: whys that? :)
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# [02:57] <WeirdAl> hmm, well, I've avoided layout code mostly, and things like printing...
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# [02:58] <@dolske> eww, another hidden window?
# [02:58] <@dolske> I thought we were trying to get rid of the one we have, eventually.
# [02:58] <WeirdAl> but I've had to root around the code for about 10 years now
# [02:58] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: 10 years? i hope it gets easier with time...
# [02:59] <WeirdAl> it does... in the sense that you get used to the pain, and don't even notice it anymore
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# [02:59] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: :D
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# [03:00] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: go figure, my very first project on Mozilla was to add out-of-process support for addons
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# [03:00] <WeirdAl> I think my first one was DOM Inspector
# [03:00] <kwierso> e10s is dead, long live e10s!
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# [03:01] <WeirdAl> and my second one Venkman (which is even more dead, but still has a Zombie Nation of fans)
# [03:01] * ejpbruel loves how kwierso basically lurks around everywhere :D
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# [03:01] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: Venkman? thats ancient technology, but even I heard of it
# [03:01] <Bas> Does anyone know what could cause XPCOM shutdown not to execute properly?
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# [03:01] <ejpbruel> Bas: how about 'anything'?
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# [03:02] <philor> media/*?
# [03:02] <WeirdAl> ejpbruel: I blog about it probably every 2 years, bemoaning its lack of support and trying to rally help.
# [03:02] <WeirdAl> but really, it's dead
# [03:02] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: too bad :(
# [03:02] <ejpbruel> does make[5]: *** [components_libs] Error 2 have any special meaning other than 'your build is screwed'
# [03:03] <ejpbruel> it doesnt seem to give me a lot to go on
# [03:03] <WeirdAl> anyway, I gotta run
# [03:04] <ejpbruel> WeirdAl: thanks for your help!
# [03:04] <WeirdAl> anytime I'm around - I'm wearing that old red star shirt from Mozilla Party 1.0
# [03:04] <WeirdAl> -- celebrating that XHR2 timeout checkin landing today
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# [03:05] <WeirdAl> I don't get to write code for check-in to the main tree that often :p
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# [03:12] <Bas> ejpbruel: Well, I can appreciate the thought but it's not very helpful ;)
# [03:12] <njn> seems like the DOM inspector is busted in close-to-trunk builds...
# [03:12] <ejpbruel> Bas: sorry, just being a smartass. could it be that you have a reference leak somewhere? (just guessing)
# [03:12] <njn> JavaScript error: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul, line 1: InspectorUI is not defined
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# [03:22] <Callek> Waldo: ping (you're jwalden right?)
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# [03:23] <Waldo> Callek: yes
# [03:24] <Callek> Waldo: any chance http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/886f040f2844 could have caused the suite linux l10n configure issue: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk-l10n/comm-central-trunk-linux-l10n-nightly-pl-build2275.txt.gz
# [03:24] <Callek> note suite doesn't use a mozconfig for l10n repacks
# [03:25] <Callek> Waldo: all l10n nightlies fail with that same error
# [03:25] <Callek> and that cset is one of two failing in this same range
# [03:25] <Waldo> the "These compiler flags are invalid: -Os -freorder-blocks -finline-limit=50" bit?
# [03:25] <Callek> err one of two configure.in changes in that range
# [03:25] <Callek> Waldo: yes
# [03:25] <Waldo> I can't see how it would have
# [03:26] <Waldo> what's the other change in the range?
# [03:26] <Callek> Waldo: this is during the check for "conic"
# [03:26] <Waldo> Callek: config.log might be informative
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# [03:26] <Waldo> probably would be, actually
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# [03:28] <Callek> Waldo: let me see....
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# [03:29] <Callek> Waldo: the other change was http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/92844ace31ec btw
# [03:32] <Callek> Waldo: I'm forcing a build of l10n nightly repack right now (I clobbered "everything" since yesterday, due to a master restart today)
# [03:32] <Callek> I'll have a conf.log for you to skim shortly
# [03:32] <Waldo> hmm
# [03:33] <Waldo> I also might not be surprised if clobbering fixes
# [03:33] <By-Tor> This would seem to be a problem: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463594 at least on x64 Windows builds.
# [03:33] <Waldo> although, I'm still not seeing why it broke
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# [03:34] <Callek> Waldo: yea, if it gets past this I'll be happy on the clobber
# [03:34] <Callek> but we'll find out soon
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# [03:35] <Callek> I noticed it broken yesterday but just now got around to trying to narrow down to potentials in the range
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# [03:44] <Jesse> taras: yikes, all those huge CC and GC changes are planned to land right at the end of one cycle?
# [03:44] <Jesse> http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2012/01/26/snappy-january-26/
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# [03:47] <Callek> Waldo: ok, even stranger: the error now is being unable to find curl.h
# [03:47] <Callek> I'm like WTF
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# [03:48] <Bas> ejpbruel: No reference should be able to keep XPCOM shutdown from taking place afaik :s
# [03:49] <Callek> Waldo: I don't suppose you have any suggestions?
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# [03:49] <Callek> of course, means my ability to identify the reg range is harder
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# [03:57] <Waldo> Callek: no, not really
# [03:57] <Callek> yea, I'm manually bisecting on the slave with full clobbers each time
# [03:57] <Callek> to try and find the "real" regression range
# [03:57] <Callek> kinda a pain
# [03:58] <diogogmt> what happened to the js console on the nigthly?
# [03:58] <bbondy> where would the profiling branch's symbols be found? For example the firefox symbols are here: http://symbols.mozilla.org/firefox/, the try build symbols are here: http://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-symbols/
# [03:58] <nthomas> should be the first url
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# [03:58] <bbondy> k thx
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# [04:02] <bbondy> ya works with the first URL, just had to reload the summary table from xperf after the symbols were already loaded. thx.
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# [04:18] <taras> Jesse: yup
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# [04:30] <Callek> philor|away && sheriff fyi [72] dm-wwwbuild01:http_age - build-4hr is CRITICAL: HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - Last modified 0:22:50 ago - 684248 bytes in 0.041 second response time
# [04:30] <Callek> which means, in lamense terms "expect at least a 22 min delay in a finished build appearing on tbpl"
# [04:30] <Callek> (for now)
# [04:36] <Callek> Waldo: soooo, so far in my bisection you're still at fault ;-) (but it *could* be something else), but *why* you're at fault is a question in and of itself
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# [04:43] <kinetik> jaws: pong
# [04:43] <Callek> Waldo: ping (still there?)
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# [04:43] <Callek> Waldo: if I back out http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/886f040f2844 what is the impact?
# [04:43] <Callek> Waldo: is it trivial as far as impact, or likely to break stuff?
# [04:43] * Callek is not quite certain, but thats still in my range
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# [04:49] <Waldo> Callek: pong, was getting dinner
# [04:49] <Waldo> Callek: the impact is various code starts warning again
# [04:49] <Callek> Waldo: soooo just warnings?
# [04:49] <Callek> any of those warnings in warning-as-error areas?
# [04:49] <Waldo> Callek: the JS engine has a fairly consistent no-warnings policy, and gcc/clang variants don't warn when building
# [04:50] <Waldo> Callek: unfortunately no, because warning-bustage haters gonna hate
# [04:50] <Callek> ok, any of those warnings in js/* land?
# [04:50] <Waldo> yes
# [04:50] <Callek> damn...
# [04:50] <Waldo> that's how it was originally brought to my attention
# [04:50] <Waldo> that fixed a bunch of warnings in qcms, too, and probably elsewhere
# [04:51] <Callek> Waldo: I might be 'forced' to say "sorry, but this patch sucks, lets get a new one"
# [04:51] <Waldo> Callek: I'm still failing to see how it's at fault at all
# [04:51] <Waldo> but that config.log is the best source of info now
# [04:51] <Callek> ok, confirmed! 886f040f2844 is the first bad rev
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# [04:53] <Callek> Waldo: http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/1463691
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# [04:54] <Callek> Waldo: this is l10n nightly WITHOUT a mozconfig
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# [04:54] <Callek> because we haven't needed mozconfigs for suite l10n nightly repacks before
# [04:54] <Waldo> Callek: I doubt that's relevant now
# [04:54] <Waldo> Callek: what version of gcc?
# [04:54] <Callek> (we're not setting a mac prefix so we haven't needed it)
# [04:54] <Callek> Waldo: 4.1.1
# [04:55] <Waldo> ?!?!
# [04:55] <Callek> if we had teh ability (at the moment) to do mozconfig that would be the solution
# [04:55] <Callek> but for now we don't
# [04:55] <Waldo> that's ridiculously old, no?
# [04:55] <Callek> 4.5-moz2 is what we use for actual builds
# [04:55] <Waldo> like, even older than Mac gcc
# [04:55] <Waldo> why are you using such an old gcc for this?
# [04:55] <Callek> this mozconfig is *just* for mar generation in the l10n repacks
# [04:56] <Callek> err rather thats all that we even use a compiler for here
# [04:56] <Callek> The build machines have that as the default gcc
# [04:56] <Callek> (just like MoCo machines)
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# [04:56] <Waldo> okay, given this it probably won't be too bad to get a fix going
# [04:57] <Callek> the difference is that releng system wise, MoCo machines recently switched to using a mozconfig for l10n nightly repacks as well, SeaMonkey did not yet (and we have no support for it atm, I need to do some magic to do so -- like moving mozconfigs to src tree)
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# [04:58] <mcpherrin> /win 13
# [04:58] <Callek> Waldo: so are you planning on working on a fix for me/us?
# [04:58] <@roc> jaws: hi
# [04:58] <Callek> Waldo: I can get a bug on file
# [04:58] <Waldo> Callek: sure
# [04:58] <Callek> great, thx
# [04:59] <Callek> I'm not a reviewer here though, so its not going to be me reviewing, but it is important for me, since all my trunk linux repacks are broke because of it
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# [05:04] <Callek> Waldo: Bug 721625
# [05:04] <Callek> Waldo: thanks
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# [05:05] <Waldo> note that if building with -std=gnu99 but not -fgnu89-inline doesn't work for that system, I'm probably going to declare you SOL
# [05:05] <Waldo> well
# [05:05] <Waldo> maybe at that point I say you get neither, and you get warnings
# [05:05] <Callek> Waldo: well my opinion is to just not add either of those flags if we're GCC 4.1.1
# [05:06] <Callek> (or less than whatever GCC supported -fgnue89-inline)
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# [05:07] <Callek> Waldo: the only stuff we compile here in repacks is |config| |tier_nspr| and |libmar|
# [05:07] <Callek> which is just to do the update snippets :-)
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# [05:09] <Callek> Waldo: my opinion, if you want to call us SOL, I'm going to back you out for breaking us, and declare that you can't land until feb 8, so we can get infra in place to make it useable with that patch (where these next few days I can't touch much of buildot magic, due to chances of breakage when I go to spin my final release)
# [05:10] <Callek> Waldo: a "You're busted, completely" is a lot different than "We have a few warnings, but no real issue other than a desire not to have warnings"
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# [05:14] <Callek> Waldo: do let me know if you're not patching it
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# [05:14] <Callek> Waldo: if not I'll try to find a solution prior to backing out though, but the later you ask the less likely I am to be able to find a solution before said Feb 8
# [05:15] <BenWa> How do you get the crash url on crash stats if it crashes on startup?
# [05:15] <Callek> s/later you ask/later you tell me/
# [05:15] <Waldo> Callek: I didn't say I wasn't going to patch it
# [05:15] * Waldo is holding two conversations right now, fwiw
# [05:15] <By-Tor> Ok, vs2010 is broken now.
# [05:15] <Callek> Waldo: ahhh I'm not in whatever channel you're other convo is in :-)
# [05:15] <Callek> Waldo: p.s. thank you very much for working to fix this.
# [05:16] <By-Tor> <mozgraphite2.lib.desc>: Found error
# [05:17] <jhammel> By-Tor: guessing about:crashes is not an option :/
# [05:17] <By-Tor> No, compiling.
# [05:17] <By-Tor> Last merge broke building with vs2010.
# [05:19] <jhammel> sorry, meant BenWa
# [05:19] <jhammel> silly tab completion
# [05:19] <By-Tor> hah
# [05:19] <BenWa> I assume it shows up somewhere in the profile dir?
# [05:19] <By-Tor> Ok, whatever changed json.cpp is the culprit.
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# [05:20] <jhammel> BenWa: i have .mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports/
# [05:20] <Mossop> By-Tor: It is fixed on inbound
# [05:20] <By-Tor> Ah, thanks.
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# [05:20] <By-Tor> Mossop: You found it too?
# [05:21] <BenWa> ok ill liik
# [05:21] <jhammel> BenWa: fwiw, i've never looked at any of the files there ;)
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# [05:21] <Mossop> By-Tor: Yep
# [05:22] <By-Tor> Mossop: Ok, then I won't continue searching. hehehe
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# [05:24] <Mossop> By-Tor: bug 721466 if you want it
# [05:24] <mbrubeck> jmaher: Looks like native Android tests are still broken... :(
# [05:24] <By-Tor> Thanks :)
# [05:24] <jhammel> mbrubeck: backout in progress
# [05:24] <jmaher> mbrubeck: yeah, that is getting backed out
# [05:24] <jmaher> some reason uploading robocop.* allows the buildbot scripts to believe that is what we are testing instead of fennec.apk
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# [05:25] <jmaher> 'crazed infra filename dependencies' <- thanks philor :)
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# [05:25] <jhammel> lol
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# [05:26] <philor> I liked it when I discovered that jetpack tests were busted because they were downloading the .asc signature for the zip and trying to run it
# [05:27] <philor> firefox.*zip, that's gotta be the application...
# [05:28] <ddahl> A bit confused by this error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463707
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# [05:28] <ddahl> whoops
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# [05:29] <ddahl> meant to pastebin this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1463708
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# [05:30] <Mook> ddahl: GetPublicKeyByKeyID in your source is... odd; it's a global function, not a method of a class?
# [05:31] <Mook> (you should be copying the declarations from the .h generated from the .idl... assuming pyxpidl still generated those nice templates)
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# [05:34] <Mook> that's why we have IRC! :D (also, code reviews, when we get there)
# [05:34] <ddahl> Mook: extra eyes are appreciated!
# [05:34] <ddahl> irc is amazing
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# [05:39] <Callek> ok, off for the night
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# [05:44] <Waldo> hmm, a few minutes before I was going to post the patch :-\
# [05:44] <Waldo> ala{s,ck}
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# [05:49] <philor> ehsan: you probably wanted a different summary for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721573 didn't you?
# [05:50] <philor> like "actually do it since I got infrasec approval"
# [05:50] <@ehsan> philor: yeah, thanks, fixed
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# [06:19] <heycam> khuey|away, I added default values for operations in Web IDL -- void f(DOMString foo = "bar");
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# [06:26] <glob> anyone here using gmail for bugmail and having threading issues?
# [06:27] <Mossop> glob: Yeah a few people have mentioned it on yammer
# [06:27] <Mossop> Me included
# [06:28] <glob> Mossop, hrm, there's a lot of "WFM" on that thread. joy :D
# [06:29] <Mossop> Yeah :(
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# [06:29] <glob> Mossop, does any bugmail thread?
# [06:30] <Mossop> Doesn't seem to for me
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# [06:32] <glob> Mossop, even for bugs filed after early jan?
# [06:32] <Mossop> I don't think any bugmail I received since it first started happening has threaded
# [06:32] <glob> ok
# [06:33] <glob> well, not ok, but useful to know :)
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# [07:33] <philor> tbsaunde: so, do you have some better way to get to the thing with tabindex="0" than I do?
# [07:33] <tbsaunde> philor: hm?
# [07:34] <tbsaunde> you can like jump to the heading (afaik all screen readers allow you to do that) and then its a tab or two away
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# [07:34] <tbsaunde> but I guess its not as good if you can't jump between headings and stuff
# [07:34] <philor> heh
# [07:35] <philor> yeah, every changeset link, every bug link, every changeset mentioned in a commit message
# [07:36] <philor> works pretty well if I click on something down in the box where the link is, but that sort of defeats the purpose :)
# [07:37] <philor> actually, it's so far down that it's only five shift+tabs away, though that feels like cheating
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# [07:41] <tbsaunde> and every test job
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# [07:42] <tbsaunde> philor: what about control end then shift tab, or is that what your mentioning?
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# [07:44] <philor> curse you, Steve Jobs!
# [07:44] <tbsaunde> philor: haha
# [07:44] <philor> but no, it's only five back from the selected first failure
# [07:44] <tbsaunde> fn arrow is page up / down and end / home I believe
# [07:45] <tbsaunde> oh, yeah, the focus jumps
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# [07:57] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, and the other thing about tbpl-dev I forgot to mention in either the bug or the email is that if you retrigger from there, it won't actually go through, because self-serve doesn't know that it's an acceptable host to be retriggering, so tbpl will lie and say it failed from a "network error"
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# [08:01] <tbsaunde> philor: ok, thx
# [08:02] <tbsaunde> I'monly sort of hear, moving toward heading off for the night
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# [08:04] <tbsaunde> haha
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# [10:25] <jwatt> there's a macro you can use to hide a variable declaration from the compiler in non-debug builds
# [10:25] <jwatt> I can't see it in nsError.h - anyone know it's name offhand?
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# [10:35] <@khuey> glob|away: pong
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# [10:47] <ewong> khuey: ping
# [10:49] <@khuey> ewong: pong
# [10:49] <ewong> khuey: can you please tell me how I can fix this kind of error? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464180
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# [10:50] <@khuey> you're missing some NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRAVERSE_* macros
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# [10:51] <ewong> khuey: in the cpp file?
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# [10:52] <@khuey> yes
# [10:53] <ewong> khuey: ok.. I did add the traverse macros but it keeps on saying it already has a body... but I'll try again
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# [11:24] <glob> khuey, i'm seeing a beachball browser fairly often (but not now). what are the steps to get the diagnostic info you you're after for the next time it happens?
# [11:25] <@smaug> something is still leaking... I should not clean up my code. Dirty code worked just fine.
# [11:25] <@khuey> glob: attach gdb and break, and get a backtrace for all the threads
# [11:25] <@khuey> that'd be a good place to start
# [11:26] <@smaug> glob: you see pauses regularly ?
# [11:27] <glob> smaug, not pauses; it just stops responding
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# [11:27] <@smaug> like, hang?
# [11:28] <glob> yes :)
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# [11:28] <glob> also, yes :(
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# [11:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f0f0451c75eb - Paul Rouget - Bug 720975 - Switch to vertical layout only when the window width < 550px. r=msucan
# [11:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7571ade2acbf - Cedric Vivier - Bug 719021 - Saving an empty new style sheet does not display the file name upon saving. r=paul
# [11:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d5ceec63ef0a - Cedric Vivier - Bug 721350 - Style Editor auto-scroll to the selected style sheet is annoying. r=paul
# [11:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/206305cbbeb1 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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# [11:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4870e4fe1320 - Cedric Vivier - Bug 721353 - Fix invisible outline regression introduced by bug 719022. r=paul
# [11:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d11d8bc8091 - Jared Wein - Bug 666306 - Added a large play button when the video is not autoplay and with controls enabled. r=dolske
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# [11:39] <hsivonen> Am I reading the source correctly? Does mozSanitizingSerializer really implement its excess paranoia case-sensitively? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/mozSanitizingSerializer.cpp#494
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# [11:44] <hsivonen> slow mxr is slow :-(
# [11:45] <hsivonen> hmm. no. looks like Necko went crazy
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# [11:47] <@smaug> I think you're reading the code correctly
# [11:47] <@smaug> what all is using that serializer ?
# [11:48] <hsivonen> smaug: mailnews
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# [11:48] <hsivonen> I'm now even less impressed by this code.
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# [12:10] <paul> Is it possible to hide the accesskey underline in a <label>?
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# [12:26] <MarcoZ> Hi! Does anyone know what the reason for the burning Win opt machine is on this tree: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Accessibility
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# [12:42] <mats> MarcoZ: the error message is "cp: cannot copy cyclic symbolic link ../../_tests/testing/mochitest/chrome/layout"
# [12:43] <mats> MarcoZ: I don't know why something like that would happen though... probably just need a clobber build to fix it
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# [13:07] <MarcoZ> mats: Do you know how to trigger that?
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# [13:16] <mats> MarcoZ: no I don't, try asking in #build
# [13:16] <ewong> khuey: ping
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# [13:23] <MarcoZ> mats: Will do thanks. First will wait to see if it recovers on its own.
# [13:26] <gaston> isn't --disable-debug supposed to remove -g from global cflags ? MOZ_DEBUG_FLAGS is set anyway, but even with --disable-debug i get -g in the build lines
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# [13:29] <m_kato> gaston: --disable-debug-symbols?
# [13:30] <m_kato> gaston: -g needs for debug symbol file.
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# [13:36] <ted> do i need to be using the profiling branch nightly to use about:jank?
# [13:36] <ted> my nightly builds have been horribly janky lately
# [13:36] <ted> like, borderline unusable
# [13:36] <ted> gaston: we build --enable-debug-symbols by default
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# [13:45] <Mark_Capella> define janky?
# [13:46] <Mark_Capella> ok i c it
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# [13:55] <ted> about:jank says it's GC :-/
# [13:55] <ted> on windows
# [13:56] <Mark_Capella> <--- new developer whose seen build issues
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# [13:56] <ted> Mark_Capella: hi there
# [13:57] <Mark_Capella> hi ted
# [13:57] <ted> you may find #introduction a friendlier channel if you're new, but you're welcome here as well
# [13:57] <Mark_Capella> ah just bored waiting for a build
# [13:57] <ted> okay
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# [14:03] <@khuey> ewong|sleep: pong
# [14:03] <@khuey> jlebar|away: ping
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# [14:04] <Ms2ger> khuey, are your enum types going to have a literal "generated_" in front?
# [14:05] <@khuey> no
# [14:05] <@khuey> that was just to make it clear
# [14:06] <Ms2ger> Made it unclear to me ;)
# [14:07] <lurking> khuey: you home ? have a good trip ?
# [14:07] <Ms2ger> Still in Paris, I assume
# [14:08] <lurking> k
# [14:08] <Ms2ger> Oh, and you mistyped Node? as Node&
# [14:08] <@khuey> lurking: still in paris
# [14:08] <@khuey> fly back tomorrow
# [14:08] <lurking> ahh, ok
# [14:08] <@khuey> but yeah, it's been a pretty awesome trip
# [14:09] <@khuey> Ms2ger: er, yeah
# [14:09] <@khuey> I screwed that up
# [14:11] <Ms2ger> "I don't think this could break stuff without tests catching it."
# [14:11] <Ms2ger> Brave words, bjacob
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# [14:23] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, does it suck? Probably mozilla/editor/ :)
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# [14:28] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: no, I think even mozilla/editor/ could probably do a better job :-P
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# [15:01] <Wiesel> Hi guys. Any ideas how I could get the parent of an xtf element?
# [15:02] <paul> Do we still support this? wow :)
# [15:02] <Wiesel> paul, I hope you will continue to do so for a long time because I really need it ;-)
# [15:03] <Wiesel> paul, at least till XBL2 makes it obsolete
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# [15:15] <jandem> peterv: dromaeo (talos) is burning
# [15:16] <jandem> can I push a patch or should I wait until this is resolved?
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# [15:23] <jandem> bhearsum|buildduty: any advice on ^^?
# [15:25] * bhearsum|buildduty looks
# [15:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> which tree? inbound?
# [15:25] <jandem> yeah, inbound
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# [15:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> that looks like a browser crash to me
# [15:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> it's having trouble parsing the dump afterwards, but it's still a crash
# [15:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> let's trigger a few additional runs of that and see what happens
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# [15:26] <Ms2ger> jlebar|away, fwiw, apparently people use namespace detail for implementation details
# [15:27] <ewong> khuey: sorry for the delay.. I'm getting this even though I have added the traverseal macro
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# [15:30] <peterv> bhearsum|buildduty: any chance to get the stack from that dump?
# [15:32] <bhearsum|buildduty> peterv: if it's reproducable, i can loan a slave out for someone to get it
# [15:32] <bhearsum|buildduty> but test machines clean up at the end up of the test run iirc
# [15:32] <ewong> khuey ;/ helps if I gave the pastebin http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464306
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# [15:38] <Ms2ger> jwatt, did you find DebugOnly in mozilla/Util.h?
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# [15:40] <Ms2ger> Cipc?
# [15:40] <@khuey> ewong: isn't this the same thing you showed me earlier?
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# [15:43] <ewong> khuey: yeah.. which is whyI"m a bit confused as I have added the traverse macro (though I'm a little unsure which one to add so I commented out the other traverse macro) should I send you a patch (via some form)?
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# [15:45] <bhearsum|buildduty> hm, so those dromao's are all red
# [15:46] <peterv> bhearsum|buildduty: I've already backed out
# [15:46] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah, ok
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# [15:46] <bhearsum|buildduty> does someone need a slave to debug with?
# [15:46] <@khuey> ewong: can you pastebin a diff?
# [15:46] <@khuey> ejpbruel: pong
# [15:46] <ewong> khuey: ok
# [15:47] <Callek> khuey: ooo since you're up wanna r+ Waldo's patch in 721625 perhaps?
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# [15:47] <@khuey> I want to go to sleep :-P
# [15:47] <Ms2ger> At 3pm?
# [15:47] <ejpbruel> khuey: i have kind of a general problem, with which is was hoping you could help
# [15:47] <Callek> khuey: fixes trunk repacks across all products ;-)
# [15:47] <@khuey> looks like it's already been r-d
# [15:48] <@khuey> ejpbruel: sure
# [15:48] <Callek> huh it was???
# [15:48] <ejpbruel> khuey: when creating a top level window, the window is registered with the window mediator, which keeps the owning addref to the window. when the window is destroyed eplicitly via nsXULWindow::Destroy, it unregisters itself, thus allowing it to be freed
# [15:48] <Callek> oo espindola again its NOT just the issue of updating the compiler
# [15:48] <Callek> espindola: for Suite at least we have NO way to support mozconfigs atm
# [15:48] <Callek> espindola: at least not for l10n
# [15:49] <Callek> espindola: and we won't have it supported until at least Feb 8
# [15:49] <ejpbruel> khuey: when creating a *hidden* top level window (which is what i want to do), i shouldnt register it with the window mediator. the special hidden window doesnt do this either. but then the question becomes who keeps the window alive.
# [15:49] <Callek> espindola: its either this patch, or backout
# [15:49] <ejpbruel> khuey: the special hidden window is kept alive by storing it in a nsComPtr on the appshellservice
# [15:49] <Callek> espindola: its also breaking Firefox linux l10n nightlies fwiw
# [15:49] <Callek> espindola: we have GCC-4.5 for the real builds, and this stuff is not shipped, and its actually not even needed for what we are building here, so its pointless churn for no gain
# [15:50] <Callek> espindola: at least in terms of these l10n repacks
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# [15:50] <ewong> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464369
# [15:50] <espindola> Callek, go again, why can't you usu another compiler
# [15:50] <espindola> I am sure there is a script running, right?
# [15:50] <espindola> add an export CC to that script
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# [15:51] <ejpbruel> khuey: im not sure how to work around this. ideally, i'd want to do an explicit addref, and then pass the ownership of nsIXulWindow* to whatever JS object ends up wrapping it
# [15:51] <Callek> espindola: because this is teh tool chain on all our build machines, and the way to add another compiler here is to use mozconfig, which SeaMonkey can't do (Firefox has that abil though)
# [15:51] <Callek> espindola: (SeaMonkey will be able to do that within a month)
# [15:51] <@khuey> ejpbruel: something needs to hold it alive
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# [15:51] <espindola> Callek, a mozconfig is a way to do it
# [15:51] <Callek> espindola: updating our tool chain globally moments before a real release is painful
# [15:51] <@khuey> I don't have any suggestions
# [15:51] <@khuey> ewong: looking
# [15:51] <espindola> but all it does to select a compiler
# [15:51] <ejpbruel> khuey: oh well
# [15:51] <espindola> is set CC and CXX variables
# [15:52] <espindola> Callek, you can use the very same compiler we use for production
# [15:52] <Callek> espindola: yes, but we have no ability to set CC/CXX elsewhere
# [15:52] <Callek> at elast not for suite, without affecting 'everything else' in a hacky way
# [15:52] <espindola> using the same compiler everywhere would be the least painful
# [15:52] <Callek> and affecting 'everything else' is a no go for suite until after Feb 8, due to the release train model and shipping soon
# [15:52] <espindola> Callek, what is calling configure or "make -f client.mk". It is a script, right?
# [15:52] <Callek> espindola: its buildbot
# [15:53] <Callek> espindola: and its calling configure
# [15:53] <espindola> Callek, which script
# [15:53] <Callek> espindola: and its not a script
# [15:53] <espindola> Callek, buildbot use scripts
# [15:53] <espindola> point me to the file and I can add the CC for you
# [15:53] <Callek> espindola: seriously, I can't/won't change this for the buildbot, globally, which affects _all release trains_ this close to before a release
# [15:54] <Callek> and I won't do it "just for suite" when it affects Firefox as well
# [15:54] <Callek> I'm tempted to backout for "causing bustage" (incl. for Firefox) if we can't get a patch in to fix this
# [15:54] <espindola> the bots have individual configs for each "product" and branch
# [15:54] <@khuey> ewong: those comments on lines 896 - 904 are probably relevant
# [15:54] <Callek> espindola: http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/buildbotcustom/process/factory.py#2984
# [15:54] <Callek> espindola: is part of the point here
# [15:54] <Callek> espindola: again, SeaMonkey is on a different buildbotcustom branch, and has no ability to do it here
# [15:55] <Callek> espindola: which I won't even update buildbotcustom until after the stable release which is out the 31
# [15:55] <espindola> ted, Callek my main objections are
# [15:55] <espindola> * maintaining the configure scripts are very real burden on us
# [15:55] <Callek> espindola: sure, they are a real burden for us
# [15:55] <espindola> * adding another supported compiler, specially one this old would worse
# [15:56] <Callek> espindola: if we want to desupport GCC-4.1 _entirely_ for every part of official mozilla, lets do so
# [15:56] <Callek> but _after_ the uplift, not now
# [15:56] <espindola> So if it is really not possible to change tho buildbot configs
# [15:56] <Callek> espindola: the point is, "it works for libmar, nspr, etc."
# [15:56] <espindola> Callek, that will never happen
# [15:56] <Callek> espindola: and it has for a long time
# [15:56] <espindola> I have remove bits about cfront
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# [15:56] <espindola> I would say backing this out
# [15:56] <espindola> is better
# [15:57] <espindola> because it forces us to put it back in
# [15:57] <espindola> and this time
# [15:57] <espindola> make sure we drop the old compiler
# [15:57] <Callek> espindola: gcc-4.1 is not supported to build the full products, and this is not for anything that is actually shipped
# [15:57] <espindola> if we work around this now
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# [15:57] <espindola> we will have gcc 4.1 check 10 years from now
# [15:57] <Callek> espindola: and frankly, when we change cflags/cxxflags in configure, we should/need to test them, rather than having weird other checks fail
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# [15:57] <espindola> because people will point out the script and say: look, we check that we support it...
# [15:58] <Callek> espindola: we can fail if the checks are not supported sure, but adding a cflag adjustment and then failing in things like curl.h is bad
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# [15:58] <Callek> espindola: I disagree that people will point and say "we support it"
# [15:58] <Callek> espindola: but I do say we need to have a fix
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# [15:58] <Callek> espindola: is this worse than having js/src warning heavy for the whole 12 train?
# [15:59] <espindola> So my vote is for reverting it, to make sure we put it back in again
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# [15:59] <Callek> espindola: if so, then backout it is, if not I say r+ and land it
# [15:59] <espindola> Callek, adding a check for gcc 4.1 is a terrible precedence
# [15:59] <espindola> in a very slippery slope
# [15:59] <Callek> espindola: well imo, its not a "check for gcc 4.1" its a check "for these cflags"
# [15:59] <Callek> espindola: which may go away in the future
# [15:59] <Callek> espindola: its a feature check, not a version check
# [15:59] <espindola> and those flags exist on gcc 4.2 and newer
# [16:00] <Callek> it just so happens that my issue is exposed on gcc 4.1
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# [16:00] <espindola> and if for some reason we absolutely must check for gcc 4.1, it has to go to a .m4
# [16:01] <espindola> with a *very* big comment saying it should be deleted
# [16:01] <WG9s> Oddly I had the same thoughts about the change yesterday to drop support of all Windows SDKs before windows 7 SDK seemed too close to the uplift for this type of change.
# [16:01] <espindola> and a bug open for doing so
# [16:01] <Callek> espindola: either way, I'm mostly concerned that this regression is fixed, either by backout or a real patch, comment in bug your solution to it, and I'll follow through
# [16:01] <Ms2ger> heycam|away, khuey, DOM4 uses defaults for its optional arguments
# [16:01] <Callek> WG9s: I agree there, but I didn't feel like arguing with people over that, since it didn't come with real bustage
# [16:02] <@khuey> Ms2ger: defaults?
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# [16:03] <Ms2ger> khuey, the thing he added this morning
# [16:03] <@khuey> Ms2ger: ah, ok
# [16:03] <@khuey> Ms2ger: that was the result of our conversation ;-)
# [16:04] <Ms2ger> Which is why I told you :)
# [16:04] <WG9s> Well, didn;t impact me, but it seems that makeing developers scample to get thier build environments working again, when they are trying to get stuff landed before the uplift is not the best way to get things fixed quickly.
# [16:04] <WG9s> changes to build requirment thype things should be landed early int he cycle rather than in the last week.
# [16:05] * Ms2ger thinks anything that stops people from landing barely-tested code on merge day is positive
# [16:05] <sid0> the point of release trains is that we should be beyond worrying about such things
# [16:06] <@khuey> sid0++
# [16:06] <Ms2ger> Speaking of which, this patch of mine *really* needs to get on this train
# [16:06] <WG9s> well, that is kind of the point. this results in stuff being landed that is less tested because people wasted 2 days that could have been used for testing jsut to get the build to work again.
# [16:06] * Ms2ger files a bug
# [16:06] <Callek> espindola: are you willing/doing the bug comment now, so we have it on record?
# [16:06] <espindola> Callek, writing it
# [16:06] <Callek> great
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# [16:06] <sid0> WG9s: if people were using older SDKs then it's good that their builds broke, I think
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# [16:07] <sid0> it's meant as a compatibility option, not something devs should be relying on
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# [16:08] <sid0> it was actually originally meant so that mingw builds didn't break
# [16:08] <sid0> but mingw seemed to have caught up a while back
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# [16:10] <WG9s> sid0: I have no issue with the change just I don;t see why it could not have landed just after the uplift on both m-c and aurora.
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# [16:11] <sid0> I honestly don't even know what the merge date is
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# [16:11] <Ms2ger> sid0, /topic ;)
# [16:11] <sid0> oh :)
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# [16:12] <sid0> but I didn't look at it, and it seemed overdue anyway
# [16:12] <WG9s> Probably true.
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# [16:12] <ewong> khuey: ok.. uncommenting those comments, I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464381
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# [16:13] <WG9s> jsut thought it was odd to make the change so close to the uplift date.
# [16:13] <Ms2ger> Patch?
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# [16:18] <hsivonen> hmm. what type of test is content/base/test/test_bug357450.js?
# [16:18] <hsivonen> it looks like a mochitest-chrome test without a XUL file
# [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1a08877de7ed - Justin Wood - Bug 721625 - Backed out changeset 886f040f2844 for regression from Bug 719659
# [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cdf89e1937eb - Justin Wood - Merge backout
# [16:19] <hsivonen> but it doesn't run from the mochitest-chrome make target
# [16:20] <@khuey> ewong: that ... uh ... doesn't make sense
# [16:20] <@khuey> ewong: unless you have another set of traverse macros for that class later in the file
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# [16:22] <ewong> khuey: oh..
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# [16:23] <@khuey> ewong: there needs to be one TRAVERSE_BEGIN
# [16:23] <@khuey> you can probably consolidate what's inside
# [16:23] <ewong> khuey: here's the cpp file.. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464387
# [16:23] <ewong> and yes..there are two
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# [16:27] <@khuey> ewong: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/?diff=1464388
# [16:28] <@khuey> and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464388
# [16:29] <jlebar|away> <Ms2ger> jlebar|away, fwiw, apparently people use namespace detail for implementation details
# [16:29] <jlebar|away> Ms2ger, Hmm?
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# [16:31] <gaston> ted: thanks (for disable-debug-symbols)
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# [16:36] <NeilAway> hsivonen: browser-chrome test?
# [16:36] <@khuey> does gerv do IDN stuff?
# [16:37] <hsivonen> NeilAway: didn't run as such
# [16:38] <Cwiiis> seems if you try to close a tab where flash has hung, firefox hangs - but you can recover by killing plugin-container... I thought the whole idea of plugin-container was to prevent situations like that?
# [16:38] <hsivonen> can do_GetService be used with any CID and interface without the implementation trying to be a service?
# [16:38] <hsivonen> so compared to do_CreateInstance, do_GetService just returns the same instance every time?
# [16:39] <@khuey> hsivonen: yes
# [16:39] <@khuey> but you should use the right one
# [16:39] <@khuey> for obvious reasons
# [16:39] <hsivonen> khuey: thanks
# [16:40] <Ms2ger> jlebar, you said something about namespaces earlier
# [16:40] <@khuey> hsivonen: bsmedberg is going to fix xpcom at some point to throw if you do the wrong one
# [16:40] <Ms2ger> khuey, what kind of IDN stuff?
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# [16:41] <@khuey> Ms2ger: approvals of new names?
# [16:41] <Ms2ger> I think so, yes
# [16:41] <@khuey> to un-punycode them
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# [16:51] <jlebar> gcp, hey
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# [16:52] <gcp> jlebar: if I want to call SizeOfIncludingThis, I have the problem that I need to add the mallocSizeOf function. If I need to call from outside the module that defines it, can I just add the definition to a .h?
# [16:53] <gcp> i.e. throw smth like +size_t StoragePrefixSetMallocSizeOf(const void *ptr); in the .h
# [16:53] <jlebar> gcp, You're calling from a module which does not include nscore.h?
# [16:53] <jlebar> gcp, Does it have mfbt headers?
# [16:53] <gcp> what's that? :P
# [16:53] <jlebar> nscore.h defines...well, lots of things. :)
# [16:54] <jlebar> gcp, Can you use mfbt from that module?
# [16:54] <gcp> what's mfbt?
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# [16:54] <jlebar> gcp, sourcdir/mfbt
# [16:54] <gcp> ah, don't see why not
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# [16:55] <jlebar> gcp, Sounds like we may need to move nsMallocSizeOfFun into mfbt.
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# [16:56] <gcp> I use the NS_MEMORY_REPORTER_MALLOC_SIZE_FUN macro
# [16:56] <gcp> but that's useless for any caller outside that .cpp file
# [16:56] <jlebar> gcp, what file?
# [16:56] <gcp> nsUrlClassifierPrefixSet in this case
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# [16:57] <gcp> anything that wants to call its sizeof now suddenly has to care about that strage argument
# [16:57] <jlebar> gcp, this almost surely has nscore.
# [16:58] <jlebar> gcp, You try to use it and get a compile error?
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> Wasn't mallocSizeOf being killer, or was that something else?
# [16:58] * jlebar does not understand Ms2ger
# [16:58] <gcp> the problem is that the .cpp which is trying to use it simply doesn't *know* what it needs to give as nsMallocSizeOfFun
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> *killed
# [16:59] <jlebar> gcp, Ah, I'm understanding now.
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# [16:59] <jlebar> gcp, You're trying to call your own mallocSizeOf function?
# [17:00] <jlebar> er, call your own sizeIncludingThis function.
# [17:00] <gcp> yes
# [17:00] <jlebar> gcp, From within or without another mallocSizeOf function?
# [17:00] <gcp> from something completely unrelated
# [17:00] <gcp> *in another .cpp file*
# [17:00] <jlebar> Sure.
# [17:00] <jlebar> we have something for that...I just forget what it's called.
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# [17:02] <jlebar> gcp, We want a mallocSizeOfFun which just forwards to moz_malloc_usable_size.
# [17:03] <jlebar> gcp, There is one, I think!
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# [17:03] <jlebar> gcp, You don't want NS_MEMORY_REPORTER_MALLOC_SIZE_FUN, unless you're using this function for a memory reporter.
# [17:03] <jlebar> gcp, Which it sounds like you're not.
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# [17:03] <gcp> I am
# [17:03] <jlebar> Oh, you are.
# [17:04] <jlebar> <jlebar> gcp, From within or without another mallocSizeOf function?
# [17:04] <jlebar> Can I see the patch, please?
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# [17:05] <gcp> lol
# [17:05] <gcp> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32496746/areyousure.diff
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# [17:05] <gcp> simply speaking, PrefixSet has a SizeOfIncludingThis that we use in the memory reporter. I want to call it from elsewhere.
# [17:06] <jlebar> gcp, It's that StoragePrefixSetMallocSizeOf() call in ConstructPrefixSet()?
# [17:06] <jlebar> Right, but when you call it, you're explicitly *not* using it for a memory reporter.
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# [17:06] <gcp> yes
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# [17:06] <jlebar> You're calling it just for your own edification.
# [17:06] <jlebar> gcp, Then you must not pass in StoragePrefixSetMallocSizeOf.
# [17:06] <jlebar> gcp, Sorry this is complicated:
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# [17:07] <jlebar> gcp, These functions declared with NS_MEMORY_REPORTER_MALLOC_SIZE_OF are special things made for DMD integration.
# [17:07] <jlebar> Oh, ouch, there's a bug in the existing code.
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# [17:07] <jlebar> nsPrefixSetReporter hardcodes in StoragePrefixSetMallocSizeOf.
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# [17:08] <jlebar> Or...I guess that's maybe OK.
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# [17:09] <jlebar> gcp, So in general, when you use StoragePrefixSetMallocSizeOf (or any of the similarly-declared functions), you're telling DMD "anything this function touches will eventually be counted in some memory reporter."
# [17:09] <gcp> well, can you call SizeOfExcludingThis with a null argument?
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# [17:09] <jlebar> gcp, No, you can't pass null. We need to find the vanilla function which DMD ignores.
# [17:09] * jlebar looks
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# [17:09] <ewong> khuey that did the trick..
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# [17:11] <jlebar> gcp, I may be wrong, but I think you can pass moz_malloc_usable_size.
# [17:12] <@khuey> ewong: cool
# [17:12] <ewong> khuey would it be ready for smaug's review? it compiles.. it builds.. it runs. the question is. does it hurl?
# [17:13] <@khuey> ewong: does it pass try?
# [17:13] <ewong> khuey: ooh right.. will push to try
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# [17:14] <ewong> can I push to try and still get that sombrero? ;P
# [17:15] <jlebar> gcp, does that work?
# [17:15] <gcp> checking now
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# [17:16] <gcp> /home/morbo/hg/mozilla-central/toolkit/components/url-classifier/LookupCache.cpp:703:73: error: no matching function for call to ‘nsUrlClassifierPrefixSet::SizeOfIncludingThis(size_t (&)(void*))’
# [17:16] <gcp> /home/morbo/hg/mozilla-central/toolkit/components/url-classifier/nsUrlClassifierPrefixSet.h:75:10: note: candidate is: size_t nsUrlClassifierPrefixSet::SizeOfIncludingThis(size_t (*)(const void*)) <near match>
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# [17:19] <jlebar> gcp, njn was supposed to add a const void* override for moz_malloc_usable_size, but it looks like he didn't.
# [17:19] <jlebar> gcp, Can you open mozalloc.h and add that?
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# [17:20] <jlebar> gcp, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464416
# [17:21] <jlebar> gcp, oh. Try moz_malloc_size_of.
# [17:21] <jlebar> If you have a new tree.
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# [17:26] <jlebar> gcp, yeah, moz_malloc_size_of is the right thing.
# [17:26] <gcp> ok
# [17:26] <jlebar> probably. :)
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# [17:27] <gcp> an unrelated question. I got an orange B. According to our docs, this means a failed compiled-code tests. But I think that's not what happened here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8876388&tree=Try&full=1#error0
# [17:27] <gcp> "alive test"?
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# [17:28] <jlebar> That's for philor or someone. ^
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# [17:29] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a crash
# [17:30] <Ms2ger> Oh, IHistory?
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# [17:30] <Ms2ger> No, not that
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# [17:31] <gcp> nsChannelClassifier. It's complaining because its Proxy is destructing it on the wrong thread.
# [17:31] <ewong> and I think I better hurry.. before someone bitrots me
# [17:31] <Ms2ger> Looks like it
# [17:31] <gcp> (dont we have that problem elsewhere where proxies are in use?)
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# [17:34] <Ms2ger> What's the story about url elision in the awesomebar?
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# [17:34] <Ms2ger> dao1?
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> Or limi?
# [17:36] <hsivonen> is mochitest-chrome expected to clip multiline string when it dumps what is() got in the case of failure?
# [17:37] <hsivonen> how do I get mochitest-chrome to stay open after the test has run?
# [17:37] <jdm> gcp: the typical solution I've seen for that is NS_ProxyRelease
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# [17:38] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, not just on the next line in the log?
# [17:39] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: apparently not
# [17:39] <gavin> Ms2ger: "url elision"?
# [17:39] <Ms2ger> http://exam...foo/
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# [17:39] <hsivonen> in other news, the HTML serializer outputs <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset="> by default
# [17:39] <gavin> Ms2ger: where do you see that?
# [17:40] <Ms2ger> I don't, a friend on another server who just got updated to Fx9 does
# [17:40] <gavin> in the popup?
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# [17:40] <gavin> file a bug, attach a screenshot?
# [17:40] <gcp> jdm: thanks for the ip
# [17:40] <bz> hsivonen: nice
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# [17:41] <Ms2ger> Popup?
# [17:41] <Callek_Away> remind me does purple auto-rebuild?
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# [17:41] <Ms2ger> Callek_Away, doesn't
# [17:41] <Ms2ger> Blue does
# [17:42] <gavin> Ms2ger: autocomplete popup
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# [17:42] <Ms2ger> No, the URL bar
# [17:42] <Callek_Away> Ms2ger: I knew blue at least did :-)
# [17:43] <gavin> Ms2ger: that makes no sense
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# [17:44] <Ms2ger> gavin, so it shouldn't happen?
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# [17:45] <mbrubeck> Some red on Jandem's inbound push...
# [17:46] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, poked him in #jsapi
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# [17:47] <Ms2ger> gavin, oh, sorry, I was wrong
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# [17:50] <gavin> Ms2ger: it shouldn't
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> And it doesn't
# [17:51] <Ms2ger> I thought it was about the url bar, but it was actually about the url in the status bar or whatever we call it
# [17:51] <Ms2ger> When you hover over a link
# [17:52] <jdm> oh cool, I think I saw the memory-pressure notification in firefox in action
# [17:52] <jdm> gdb gobbled up all available memory, and the working set of firefox dropped by about 100mb
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# [17:52] <@khuey> jlebar: ^
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# [17:53] <jlebar> jdm, You're not on Windows, are you?
# [17:53] <philor> bhearsum|buildduty: looks like that inbound Windows bustage is yours rather than the patch, isn't it?
# [17:53] <jdm> jlebar: nope, osx
# [17:53] <jlebar> jdm, Wishful thinking, then. :)
# [17:53] <Catherine> Hiya Ms2ger
# [17:53] <jdm> jlebar: oh, do we not have that on osx? :(
# [17:53] <jlebar> jdm, And on Windows, it's only enabled for low virtual memory.
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# [17:53] <Catherine> http://cynthia.facepwn.com/uploads/blah$4dea1$f247.png This is the URL elision I was referring to, by the way. Is there an about:config preference to disable this? I'd like to see what's under the ellipsis.
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# [17:55] <Catherine> I'm a new user of FF9 coming from Ubuntu updating it today from 3.6.25 to 9.0.1. Ms2ger asked me to ask about stuff I thought was wrong.
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# [17:59] <jdm> I don't believe there's any way to see the un-elided URL without copying it to the clipboard
# [17:59] <Ms2ger> jdm, :(
# [18:00] <jprmc> catlee: espindola and I can meet whenever
# [18:01] <Catherine> That is quite unfortunate to hear (or read... ;) - I like to see the full URL in case they're not phishing but cause unintended actions that are in the first ?param=value and are followed by multiple other params
# [18:01] <Catherine> Such as Special:Userlogout for wikis
# [18:01] <bwinton> jdm, Catherine: It might be overkill, but what about using something like "Inspect Element" to get at it?
# [18:01] <wesj> browser.urlbar.trimURLs should do that
# [18:02] <Catherine> bwinton: I can use Copy Location and paste it in a notepad, but it's not something I want to do all the time
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> wesj, isn't that http:// in the url bar, then?
# [18:02] <mbrubeck> wesj: I think that only affects the urlbar, not the status popup.
# [18:02] <kwierso> Catherine: http://userstyles.org/styles/45887/firefox-4-show-full-url-preview-in-status-bar
# [18:02] <wesj> oh i missed some message in there heh
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# [18:03] <gcp> what did we do before here? cut the end?
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> I think so, yes
# [18:03] <Catherine> gcp: Truncated the end with a ...
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> Back when we had a status bar
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# [18:07] <jwatt> Ms2ger: no, I didn't, thanks! (DebugOnly)
# [18:07] <Ms2ger> jwatt, np :)
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# [18:08] * NeilAway thought that the status bar used crop="center" too
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# [18:08] <kwierso> NeilAway: but it could use almost the entire length of the statusbar
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# [18:08] <kwierso> so it cropped less often
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# [18:09] <Ms2ger> Oh, lovely
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# [18:10] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, did you figure out what's up with the windows red?
# [18:10] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: Working on it in #build
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# [18:10] <Ms2ger> Great, thanks
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# [18:13] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721779
# [18:14] <Ms2ger> CCd, ta
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# [18:14] <Ms2ger> Should trees be closed in the meantime?
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# [18:21] <NeilAway> kwierso: well, I guess that depends on how many add-ons you had ;-)
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# [18:23] <Catherine> For the record I had 2 add-ons on the status bar, NoScript (still enabled) and ScreenGrab (replaced with Pixlr). My font is narrow, so there was lots of space for the URL :)
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# [18:28] <AryehGregor> I've seen people adding tags like [parity-ie] and [parity-webkit] to whiteboards on Bugzilla sometimes. Is that encouraged? I don't want to just cargo-cult it.
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# [18:29] <jwatt> did reftest-analyzer.xhtml's "Circle differences" feature stop working?
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# [18:32] <mbrubeck> jwatt: Works for me in the Linux debug failure on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=cdf89e1937eb
# [18:32] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I've cargo-culted it myself, may be useful to evaluate priority
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# [18:33] <jwatt> mbrubeck: not for me for the three failures in the log https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8880878&tree=Try&full=1#error0
# [18:34] <jwatt> weird
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# [18:37] <Ms2ger> ehsan, sorry, don't remember
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> I can push again once the windows red clears up
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# [18:37] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: that would be great, thanks!
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# [18:38] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 25 seconds ago, saying 'Ms2ger: that would be great, thanks!' in #developers.
# [18:38] <Ms2ger> Hi
# [18:39] <@ehsan> RattyAway: hey
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# [18:39] <RattyAway> ehsan: still waiting for your reply in Bug 714360 :P
# [18:39] * @ehsan looks
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Hey, he was reviewing my patches
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# [18:40] <mbrubeck> jwatt: Those ones WFM too...
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Speaking of which
# [18:41] <Ms2ger> ehsan, not sure if that will work, let me check
# [18:41] <jwatt> mbrubeck: you see a red outline?
# [18:41] <@ehsan> RattyAway: commented
# [18:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: why would it not?
# [18:41] <RattyAway> ehsan: thanks.
# [18:41] <Ms2ger> Oh, hmm
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# [18:43] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: because of brokenness! make them non-virtual while you're there :P
# [18:43] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [18:44] <Ms2ger> Also, more blame :(
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# [18:44] <jwatt> mbrubeck: what the...
# [18:44] <jwatt> I see no change
# [18:44] <jwatt> using https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/tip/layout/tools/reftest/reftest-analyzer.xhtml
# [18:45] <mbrubeck> jwatt: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2128410/Screenshot%20at%202012-01-27%2009%3A37%3A48.png
# [18:46] <jwatt> mbrubeck: hmm, so you're _not_ lying to me ;)
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# [18:47] <mbrubeck> Hmm, we might need to close the trees for bug 721779.
# [18:47] <mbrubeck> bhearsum|buildduty: ^
# [18:47] <Ms2ger> That's what I said ;)
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# [18:59] <Ms2ger> "No review because this is just syncing us with upstream. This is also doing some cleanup,"
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# [19:01] <nmatsakis> is the github import of mozilla-central maintained?
# [19:01] <nmatsakis> https://github.com/doublec/mozilla-central
# [19:01] <bhearsum|buildduty> hi
# [19:01] <bhearsum|buildduty> sorry i was afk for so long
# [19:01] <glandium> kaie: no, but in theory, we could
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# [19:03] <nmatsakis> jbuck: that's what I mean.
# [19:03] <nmatsakis> thanks.
# [19:03] <bhearsum|buildduty> it looks like the cause is clear, i'm backing out the patch at fault
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# [19:03] <bhearsum|buildduty> that will take ~20min, if someone wants to close the tree in the meantime feel free - up to you
# [19:03] <jbuck> nmatsakis: I do all of my patches based off that
# [19:04] <nmatsakis> jbuck: nifty. I'll fork that then and defer learning mercurial properly :
# [19:04] <nmatsakis> =)
# [19:04] <@smaug> why do we have xpcshell tests for Indexeddb?
# [19:04] <jbuck> it's what I did :)
# [19:04] <@smaug> (broken tests)
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# [19:12] <Ms2ger> bhearsum++
# [19:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> sorry it took me so long :(
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# [19:20] <Ms2ger> Ooh, jwatt is on a roll
# [19:21] <jwatt> Ms2ger: just trying to attract some flames :p
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# [19:21] <Ms2ger> jwatt, go ahead, then it isn't me for once :)
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# [19:22] <philor> should be a good safe time, while everyone's yelling at josh for closing their favorite 4.x plugin compat bug
# [19:22] <Ms2ger> Which one?
# [19:23] <philor> a bunch
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# [19:29] <Ms2ger> jwatt, next week on slashdot: Firefox doesn't care about SVG security!
# [19:29] <jwatt> yeah, probably
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# [19:40] <philor> could somebody good at spotting the thing to blame in shutdown hang stacks look at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8875199&full=1&branch=mozilla-aurora#error0 for me?
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# [19:40] <Ms2ger> khuey|away,
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# [19:40] <philor> miracle of miracles, we actually got a stack for a Windows M3
# [19:40] <philor> but my desire to hang it on dom workers might possibly be driven by bias
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# [19:42] <MikeK> Hi, who would be a good reviewer for a change to the idle service?
# [19:43] <@smaug> MikeK: look at the hg annotate and check how has changed that code last time
# [19:43] <@smaug> or reviewed that code
# [19:44] <MikeK> smaug: thanks, the annotate command was what I was looking for :)
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# [19:45] <jwatt> would someone who has a windows build handy mind testing whether the testcase in the following bug still hangs firefox?
# [19:45] <jwatt> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325427
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# [19:47] <mounir> does that speak to anyone: http://mounir.pastebin.mozilla.org/1464504 ? (build failure)
# [19:47] <mounir> Ms2ger: ^
# [19:47] <mounir> tell me you know :)
# [19:48] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [19:48] <havi> howdy -asking here in case anyone wants to weigh in on this
# [19:48] <havi> incoming tweet, @shaver wants to know: "does Firefox get the @SoundCloud HTML5 widget? I guess that would mean Vorbis streams?" context, if anyone cares to weigh in: https://twitter.com/#!/shaver/statuses/162653391846252544 (or maybe it's just a sound cloud question )
# [19:48] <Ms2ger> rm -rf objdir/nss
# [19:48] <mounir> Ms2ger++
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# [19:54] <bhearsum|buildduty> sorry folks - still working on the backout. some of our masters are really fussy today
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# [20:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> just one more master now
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# [20:20] <jdm> ehsan: so, the good news is that gdb trunk now appears to load the symbols for firefox correctly.
# [20:20] <jdm> ehsan: the bad news is that resolving a break point apparently causes every decoded symbol to be stored in memory
# [20:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm going to have to forcibly kill this master, and burn some more jobs
# [20:21] <jdm> so I watch gdb fill up all available ram if I attempt to set a break point at any point
# [20:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'll retrigger them with the others
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# [20:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> OK, all the masters are updated now
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# [20:24] <mbrubeck> bhearsum|buildduty: shall I reopen the trees?
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# [20:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> mbrubeck: yeah, no reason not to IMO
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# [20:25] <mbrubeck> okay
# [20:25] * mbrubeck changes topic to 'm-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: January 31st || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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# [20:27] <jlebar> jdm, With gdb trunk, have you tried |skip function| and |skip file|?
# [20:27] <@ehsan> jdm: that's... half awesome!
# [20:27] <jdm> jlebar: I have a sneaking suspicion that that will trigger the same bug
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# [20:27] <evilpie> can anybody tell me what these windows failure are ?`https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=66e63166c199
# [20:28] <jlebar> jdm, Perhaps! :D skip file might be better, although you have to type the full file path, which is unnecessarily complex in m-c.
# [20:29] <jdm> I get excited each time I pull the latest gdb changes, because it always appears as though someone else has fixed my problems
# [20:29] <jdm> and then every time I discover that there are new problems I need to fix/ignore
# [20:29] <mbrubeck> margaret: I think you broke native twinopen on inbound.
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# [20:30] <margaret> mbrubeck: looking...
# [20:30] <mbrubeck> which I wouldn't have noticed if philor hadn't just commented yesterday about how random "timeout exceeded" happens only on ts...
# [20:30] <Ms2ger> evilpie, infra
# [20:30] <mbrubeck> evilpie: bug 721779, should be fixed now if you want to retrigger and get results.
# [20:30] <bhearsum|buildduty> there, i retriggered everything on central and inbound
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# [20:31] <evilpie> thanks you ^
# [20:31] <jdm> dare I try running "valgrind gdb gdb firefox"?
# [20:31] <jhammel> heh
# [20:31] <jhammel> maybe throw another gdb valgrind up front :P
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# [20:32] <reuben> jdm, hm, are you on mac? I'm starting to think "apple gdb" is playing with me
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# [20:33] <margaret> mbrubeck: hm, could this test be depending on the progress thobber?
# [20:33] <margaret> throbber
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# [20:34] <jdm> reuben: yes, I'm on a mac
# [20:35] <mbrubeck> margaret: If it works like twinopen on other platforms then it shouldn't... it should be JS running in a content page that logs the completion...
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# [20:36] <margaret> i'm looking at the talos code now
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
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# [20:39] <@ehsan> jprmc: http://readitlaterlist.com/firefox/
# [20:40] <reuben> jdm, ugh, ok, thanks. I think I'll just… printf. a lot.
# [20:40] <jdm> reuben: apple gdb has always worked fine for me with firefox.
# [20:40] <jdm> are you having a specific problem?
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# [20:42] <jdm> ehsan: I was given a patch to fix the memory problem by the #gdb folk, but the breakpoint isn't actually resolved now :(
# [20:42] <reuben> just unexpected behavior, breaking somewhere and ending up in a different place, etc. I'm building with clang so that might be causing some problems
# [20:42] <reuben> oh! I should try lldb
# [20:42] <jdm> reuben: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_Mozilla_with_lldb
# [20:42] <@ehsan> jdm: time to start hacking on lldb I guess :P
# [20:42] <jdm> oh
# [20:42] <jdm> that page doesn't really have much info
# [20:43] <jtcranmer> I would build Mozilala with clang
# [20:43] <jdm> ehsan: nobody likes a quitter
# [20:43] <Waldo> as long as you're not building with gcc 4.1
# [20:43] <jtcranmer> but my only recentish version of clang is a hacked-up debug+asserts version
# [20:43] * Waldo is not bitter, no
# [20:43] <@ehsan> jdm: if you make lldb work, I would beg to differ!
# [20:43] <jtcranmer> which means it takes a minute to compile any decently large file
# [20:44] <Ms2ger> Mozilala?
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# [20:47] <margaret> mbrubeck: i'm not sure how my patch broke this. want me to back it out?
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# [20:48] <Waldo> ted: do I have any other options than waiting for recalcitrant l10n machines to be updated or something?
# [20:49] <mbrubeck> margaret: Yes, or I can back it out.
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# [20:49] <mbrubeck> Twinopen is really not liking you. :)
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# [20:51] <ted> Waldo: i don't think the machines need to be udpated
# [20:51] <ted> i think they just need to have the right CC/CXX put in their environment
# [20:51] <ted> they're the same as the build slaves
# [20:51] <margaret> mbrubeck: i backed it out. i'll have to figure out what's going on later :(
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# [20:55] <NeilAway> ehsan: hmm, I can't reproduce bug 714360 either
# [20:55] <NeilAway> kaie: we've never restarted xpcom in the past, we only every considered it briefly for profile switching
# [20:55] <NeilAway> s/y//
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# [20:56] <Waldo> ted: so, how do I make that happen? or anything that would let us get back to killing warnings, which the JS people do notice pretty much immediately when they happen (at least on non-Windows)?
# [20:56] <kaie> ok, thx. I've added a review comment in a bug, suggesting to add a TODO comment, reminding for a potential code addition, if we were ever to introduce XPCOM restarting, that should cover it.
# [20:57] <kaie> (the code I was reviewing was related to profile switching and the related events)
# [20:58] <NeilAway> masterofhats: don't header.py/typelib.py already import xpidl?
# [20:58] <bhearsum|buildduty> mbrubeck: are things looking good still from your perspective?
# [20:58] <akeybl> camd: pong
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# [21:00] <camd> hey akeybl: I was forwarded another user getting beachballing. Do we need more users to track the problem?
# [21:00] <bhearsum|buildduty> mbrubeck: great!
# [21:00] <camd> it's tantek celik, here at mozilla
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# [21:00] <camd> akeybl: do you recommend I ask him to chime in on one of the bugs?
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# [21:02] <@ehsan> NeilAway: are you on mac?
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# [21:02] <ted> Waldo: i guess file a releng bug and ask them exactly what's busted there?
# [21:04] <akeybl> if you could CC me and mccr8 on the bug, we'll take next action with reaching out to the user
# [21:04] <mccr8> camd: his problem is something else.
# [21:04] <mccr8> akeybl: ^
# [21:04] <mccr8> he has 1000 threads, apparently, compared to the normal of around 32.
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# [21:05] <Cww> I only have 29 threads... I feel so.... inadequate.
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# [21:06] <WeirdAl> gavin: ping
# [21:06] <mccr8> akeybl camd: he also has his own bug about his problems. bug 679498. it also isn't a regression, as he's had the problem since 6. khuey was helping him.
# [21:06] * WG9s had more threads, but pulled one and now has a rip in his pants :-(
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# [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e99e0dc97746 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 652297. (Av1) Stop trying to package MSVC DLLs in debug Windows Firefox, Reorder XPCOM files. r=ted.mielczarek.
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# [21:06] <camd> oh mccr8, ok..
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# [21:06] <NeilAway> ehsan: no, why should that make any difference?
# [21:07] <mccr8> camd: we definitely need to figure out what is going on there (another person on Yammer had a similar problem) but it doesn't seem like this particular CC problem we've been investigating.
# [21:07] <mccr8> camd: khuey was suggesting that he install the "crash me" addon thing and use that to generate a crash report during the pauses so we can see what is happening.
# [21:07] <gavin> WeirdAl: pong
# [21:08] <camd> mccr8: oh ok. sounds like he's already getting some attention on this. that's good.
# [21:08] <@ehsan> NeilAway: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/01acfb40a3e7
# [21:08] <@ehsan> NeilAway: afaik, this implementation is broken for mac
# [21:08] <mconley> jrmuizel: hey - just curious, what does about:jank do, and is it useful if I run it? Like, am I helping you gather stuttering data?
# [21:08] <NeilAway> ehsan: oh, did that land recently?
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# [21:08] <@ehsan> no
# [21:09] <jrmuizel> mconley: just running it isn't directly helpful, i.e. we don't collect data
# [21:09] <@ehsan> long time ago
# [21:09] <@ehsan> this has been broken forever
# [21:09] <jrmuizel> mconley: but if you're interested in jank it well help show you the problem
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# [21:09] <mconley> jrmuizel: it's not even too clear to me what jank is, for that matter
# [21:10] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, the behaviour before was definitely broken
# [21:10] <mconley> jrmuizel: but I like that you're considering Thunderbird in the code, anyhow. :)
# [21:10] <NeilAway> ehsan: not sure why you think it would interfere with the textbox though, the whole point about command controllers is that they're focus-sensitive
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# [21:11] <mccr8> mconley: in this context, it means that the browser is unresponsive for >100ms.
# [21:11] <mconley> I see. Snappy stuff. Gotcha.
# [21:11] <mconley> Thanks for clearing all that up. :D
# [21:12] <ted> jrmuizel: my firefox has been janky as hell on all platforms lately
# [21:12] <ted> i installed about:jank, not sure if it's telling me much useful
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# [21:12] <jrmuizel> ted: hopefully it gets better with incremental GC
# [21:12] <NeilAway> ehsan: SeaMonkey overlays the JS console with a real menu, and its copy command works too
# [21:13] <@ehsan> NeilAway: that's the thing, the first time you focus the textbox, cmd_copy gets updated from the textbox from that point on
# [21:13] <@ehsan> whether or not it has the focus
# [21:13] <@ehsan> so
# [21:13] <@ehsan> if you type something
# [21:13] <@ehsan> and don't select anything
# [21:13] <@ehsan> and try to copy a list item you lose
# [21:14] * NeilAway waits for his trunk build to start
# [21:14] <@ehsan> if you do select something you will lose as well
# [21:14] <@ehsan> by getting the textbox contents on the clipboard
# [21:14] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I didn't investigate why this happens though
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# [21:18] <NeilAway> ehsan: hmm, is your textbox actually losing focus? mac is probably trying to be clever and not let you focus the list
# [21:18] <NeilAway> Mac--
# [21:18] <@ehsan> NeilAway: it looks like it loses focus
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# [21:19] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, I have no problems on Linux or Windows.
# [21:19] * NeilAway suggests ehsan switches to a real OS
# [21:19] <jorendorff> is pushing on red a normal thing to do now?
# [21:19] * jorendorff is looking at m-i
# [21:19] <@ehsan> NeilAway: windows being a real os? :P
# [21:19] <NeilAway> ehsan: compared to Mac, yes :-P
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# [21:20] <jorendorff> i guess the tree rules say nothing against it
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# [21:21] <mbrubeck> jorendorff: You should not push on unstarred red.
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# [21:21] <jorendorff> yeah - all umpty-three red builds are starred
# [21:22] <mbrubeck> Yeah, I starred them. :)
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# [21:25] <jorendorff> what a mensch!
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# [21:30] <evilpie> jorendorff: nope
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# [21:31] <jorendorff> evilpie: what was that a response to
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# [21:36] <evilpie> german O-O
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# [21:37] <bhearsum|buildduty> all - philor just alerted me that we've got a really long fedora backlog - it seems like the test machines aren't taking new jobs, i'm looking into it
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# [21:38] <mwu> wesj: ping
# [21:38] <wesj> mwu: pong
# [21:38] <mwu> wesj: so I'm wondering about how we handle touchend events
# [21:39] <mwu> on android, it seems like when there's a pointer up event, android also gives you the point that was lifted
# [21:39] <mwu> so you have to use the pointer index mask to figure out which one was lifted
# [21:40] <mwu> how does the platform side code detect which pointer was lifted on a touch end event?
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# [21:40] <mwu> er
# [21:40] <mwu> gecko side, rather
# [21:40] <mwu> dom event side
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# [21:41] <wesj> mwu: yeah, in that case we only dispatch send one touch point (or only the touch points that ended) from widget to gecko
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# [21:41] <mwu> ah ok
# [21:41] <mwu> and on pointer up, we only send the pointer that was added?
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# [21:42] <wesj> then platform fills in the list with its cached elements. we only do that on up though. on down and move we send everything. kinda weird. we could change that to something more... consistent
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# [21:42] <mbrubeck> DOM touch events have a "changedTouches" list which should be just the point that was added/removed, and a "touches" list which should be all points currently on the screen.
# [21:43] <mwu> yeah
# [21:43] <mbrubeck> http://www.w3.org/TR/touch-events/#widl-TouchEvent-changedTouches
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# [21:43] <mwu> I'm more concerned about what the gecko side expects from widget
# [21:43] <wesj> mbrubeck: yeah, the platform has a list of cached touches. we send the one that came up to it. then gecko figures out what goes in all the different lists
# [21:43] <mbrubeck> got it
# [21:44] <mwu> hm, dispatchmultitouch event only seems to have special handling for pointer up
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# [21:45] <wesj> mwu: originally i wanted to support either. send only the changed touches, or send them all, the platform would figure out what to do. i thought that would work better with what I heard windows does, which was more like our old MozTouchEvents
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# [21:46] <mwu> ah
# [21:46] <mwu> wesj: but for now, we only need special handling with pointers being lifted, right?
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# [21:46] <wesj> mwu: we could still support something like that... but yeah, right now lifted ones are special
# [21:46] <mwu> ok cool
# [21:47] <bhearsum|buildduty> OK, fedora slaves are back taking jobs again, it will take a bit of time for the backlog to clear, though
# [21:47] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/v1/touchevents.html
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# [21:48] * mwu has been referring to https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/tip/touchevents.html
# [21:48] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: What about it?
# [21:48] <Ms2ger> Not out of date
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# [21:50] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: Should be the same as the latest CR... I don't think we've made any changes.
# [21:50] <mwu> oh hey, mbrubeck is listed as an editor
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# [21:50] <mbrubeck> Yes, yes I am. :)
# [21:50] <mwu> mbrubeck: so in 5.3, that default action column looks a bit wrong
# [21:51] <mbrubeck> yeah... I think you're right.
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# [21:51] <mbrubeck> fortunately it is non-normative. :)
# [21:51] <mbrubeck> (so we can still change it.)
# [21:51] <mwu> heh
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# [21:57] <mbrubeck> jlebar: There are some new intermittent Mac reftest failures on inbound... Could they be related to your push?
# [21:57] <mbrubeck> One of them is on your push, another is on the following push.
# [21:57] <jlebar> mbrubeck, looking
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# [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a59519e137e - Armen Zambrano Gasparnian - Bug 721822. Add talos_from_source.py. r=jmaher, DONTBUILD, NPOTB
# [21:59] <jlebar> mbrubeck, I would be surprised if that change were causing reftest failures, but it's certainly a possibility.
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# [22:03] <jwir3> how does one know whether a function that gets an attribute from an IDL-defined class will leak? I.e. how do I know whether I should use a standard pointer, or an nsCOMPtr?
# [22:03] <jlebar> mbrubeck, You have rs=me to back out, if you don't have a better idea about those oranges.
# [22:04] <armenzg> do most of you have a checkout of mozilla-inbound and another one of mozilla-central?
# [22:04] <jlebar> armenzg, I certainly do. But you don't need to clone them separately.
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# [22:04] <jwir3> amenzg: I do
# [22:04] <jlebar> armenzg, http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html
# [22:04] <jwir3> armenzg: ^, sorry
# [22:04] <jlebar> jwir3, Can you show me some code?
# [22:04] <Ms2ger> jwir3, always smart pointers
# [22:05] <jwir3> jlebar: sure, here's an example that dbaron said leaks:
# [22:05] <jwir3> >+ nsIDOMDocumentType* docType;
# [22:05] <jwir3> >+ nsresult rv = domDoc->GetDoctype(&docType);
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> jwir3, an interface you get from an out-param is already addreffed
# [22:05] <jlebar> Oh yeah, any time you use that pattern, you need to do already_AddRef'ed into a COMPtr.
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> So in that case the doctype will have an extra reference
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# [22:05] <Ms2ger> getter_AddRefs*
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# [22:06] <armenzg> thanks jlebar
# [22:06] <jlebar> ^yeah, that. :)
# [22:06] <jlebar> jwir3, The reason we have to addref when an object comes as an out param is:
# [22:06] <Ms2ger> And the doctype will hang on to the document and you'll leak the world
# [22:06] <jwir3> so, only if it actually returns the pointer?
# [22:06] <Ms2ger> What else did you have in mind?
# [22:06] <jlebar> jwir3, Consider the case when the function which is returning the variable as an out-param holds the last strong reference to the object. It then sets |*aOutPtr = object| and returns. This releases the last reference to the object, and it gets destroyed!
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# [22:07] <jlebar> jwir3, So the rule is, whenever you return via out-param, you always add-ref first.
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# [22:07] <bhearsum|buildduty> ehsan: who owns the electrolysis branch?
# [22:07] <Ms2ger> bhearsum|buildduty, bsmedberg, I guess
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# [22:07] <Ms2ger> Or felipe
# [22:07] <jlebar> jwir3, But yes, if a function returns a raw pointer, it usually says something about how that pointer isn't add-ref'ed. You may or may not want to store it in a smart pointer yourself.
# [22:07] <jdm> bhearsum|buildduty: it was last dolske or felipe, I think
# [22:07] <bhearsum|buildduty> dolske: do you know the e10s branch?
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# [22:08] <@bsmedberg> it was felipe last, but I'm pretty sure it's dead since we deprioritized e10s
# [22:08] <jwir3> jlebar, Ms2ger: Ok. thanks!
# [22:08] <@bsmedberg> and most of the interesting code landed in -central anyway
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> jwir3, unless it returns already_AddRefed<T>, in which case you need a smart pointer
# [22:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> bsmedberg: can i turn it off in buildbot?
# [22:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> we can re-enable it if we need to
# [22:08] <jlebar> Ms2ger, (Thankfully that won't compile!)
# [22:08] <jwir3> Ms2ger: so, if it returns already_AddRefed, then this means that it's returning a smart pointer, and we need to keep track of that?
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> jlebar, people will .get() their way to leaks anyway
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# [22:09] <Ms2ger> jwir3, almost, it's basically the same as the outparam
# [22:09] <nemo> huh. peacekeeper has changed recently
# [22:09] <jwir3> Ms2ger: gotcha. ok.
# [22:09] <nemo> there's a few new tests, like webgl
# [22:09] <nemo> and more cute
# [22:09] <jlebar> jwir3, However, you don't have to use getter_AddRefs with already_AddRefed. You can just assign straight to a smart pointer.
# [22:10] <jlebar> Somehow this all seems less confusing before you write it down.
# [22:10] <armenzg> thanks jlebar; I'm using hg relink for mozilla-central and mozilla-inbound
# [22:10] <jlebar> armenzg, Awesome. Good luck! :)
# [22:10] <jwir3> jlebar: heh.
# [22:10] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum|buildduty: if I could get http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/electrolysis/pushloghtml to load to verify that nobody has used it recently, it would be easy to say yes...
# [22:10] <armenzg> :)
# [22:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> bsmedberg: well, http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/electrolysis/ says the last check-in is roughly end of september
# [22:11] <@bsmedberg> yeah, it's fine to turn it off then
# [22:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> OK
# [22:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> thanks!
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> jlebar, it makes reasonable sense if you have the bug picture in mind ;)
# [22:14] <bbondy> taras: So I found that prefetch files won't be used/created if you replace them with a 0 byte file that has the read only attribute on it. I think this is better because there's no disk IO used to write out the prefetch file at all. Also we can set it as a 1 time operation after FF starts and to be safe on each update / install.
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# [22:14] <taras> bbondy: sweet
# [22:14] <taras> just have to make sure that file doesnt get wiped
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# [22:15] <bbondy> taras: what do you mean?
# [22:15] <bbondy> move the prefetch file instead of deleting it?
# [22:15] <bbondy> or?
# [22:15] <bhearsum|buildduty> sorry folks, 32-bit tests are blocked again, i'm working on fixing them :(
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# [22:16] <jbuck> bjacob: the jsfriend.h typed array helpers are being implemented in https://bug711843.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=588652 so I can't use the new, better API. should I just add a note to that bug saying that his patch will be slightly bitrotted, and it'll need to be updated? or file a new bug?
# [22:16] <taras> bbondy: make sure some utility or other process doesn't clear it
# [22:16] <taras> ie your readonly 0length file
# [22:17] <taras> i wish of thought of this when i did my start faster addon
# [22:17] <NeilAway> ehsan: bah, that test fails if I run it twice in a row - I think I'll need to preset the direction manually just in case
# [22:17] <Ms2ger> jbuck, that patch can land now, so please work on top of it
# [22:17] <bbondy> taras: In that rare case it'll get reset on each upgrade
# [22:17] <bjacob> jbuck: oh ok, just forget what i said about that, sorryt
# [22:17] <bbondy> which I htink is enough
# [22:17] <taras> bbondy: so long as we have telemetry to check that
# [22:17] <taras> i'm fine with that
# [22:18] <bjacob> jbuck: yes, a comment would be useful
# [22:18] <bjacob> jbuck: new bug useful too
# [22:18] <bbondy> taras: ok cool, I just want to avoid doing an fs watcher or anything like that as it'll make us more sluggish in general
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# [22:18] <taras> bbondy: ie have telemetry report that the prefetch file is what we put in there
# [22:18] <bbondy> taras: yup I'll post that as a separate task and link it up
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# [22:20] <@ehsan> NeilAway: sounds good to me
# [22:21] <@ehsan> bhearsum|buildduty: I have no idea
# [22:21] <@ehsan> sorry
# [22:21] <NeilAway> ehsan: new patch coming up shortly
# [22:21] <@ehsan> ok
# [22:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> ehsan: np, someone else answered
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# [22:25] <Ms2ger> ehsan, have a look at the IsRootNode try push when results come in, can you? :)
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# [22:26] <nemo> yep chrome still clobbers on the array stuff in http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/results?key=4q31&resultId=2118210
# [22:26] <nemo> I guess probably same stuff bz mentioned before
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# [22:29] <felipe> bhearsum|buildduty: yeah I was the one who was using that branch but it's been unused for a while, it's fine to disable it
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# [22:31] <masterofhats> NeilAway: probably they do import that but that does not trigger the creation of the lexer/parser part apparently
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# [22:40] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm going to have to restart these linux test masters - which means we won't even have 64-bit linux coverage for ~1h
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# [22:43] <NeilAway> masterofhats: well, it must work, otherwise we wouldn't be able to compile Firefox etc. ;-)
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# [22:46] <masterofhats> NeilAway: that is what I wondered. If you run xpidl.py once, everything works
# [22:47] <bjacob> ehsan: i could use your help, but you seem very concentrated
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# [22:47] <@ehsan> bjacob: where are you?
# [22:48] <bjacob> ehsan: coming
# [22:48] <@ehsan> ok
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# [22:49] <jrmuizel> jlebar: undefing the macro's breaks it
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# [22:49] <jlebar> jrmuizel, Oh, of course. Can you make it so they have less-generic names, then?
# [22:50] <jrmuizel> jlebar: I can
# [22:50] <jrmuizel> jlebar: I can
# [22:50] <jrmuizel> jlebar: how about LOG_SCOPE_APPEND_LINE_NUMBER_PASTE
# [22:50] <jlebar> r=e
# [22:50] <jlebar> *r=me
# [22:51] <jlebar> macros are hard.
# [22:51] <jrmuizel> they are
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# [22:54] <bjacob> ehsan: jrmuizel: using our finest documentation on the subject, i got it: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCQuickStubs.h#645
# [22:55] <jrmuizel> bjacob: +!
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# [23:01] <@ehsan> bjacob: surprising, we have docs on that?! ;)
# [23:01] <sheppy> Heh
# [23:01] <bhearsum|buildduty> still working on getting the 32-bit fedora test machines back
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# [23:02] <bjacob> ehsan: turns out we do: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPConnect
# [23:02] <@ehsan> surreal
# [23:02] <bjacob> it just wasn't clear to either of us that XPConnect, not JSAPI, is what i needed
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# [23:06] <sheppy> :)
# [23:06] <sheppy> MDN FTW
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# [23:07] <evilpie> XPConnect is surreal, MDN just rocks
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# [23:11] <@dolske> ehsan: "[autoland]"?!
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# [23:11] <@ehsan> dolske: shhhhhh
# [23:11] <@ehsan> dolske: just forget that bug ever existed :P
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# [23:11] <@dolske> ok!
# [23:12] <@ehsan> :D
# [23:12] <@dolske> \o/
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# [23:12] <@ehsan> dolske: hopefully a robot will visit that bug with some good news in a few hours
# [23:12] <@bsmedberg> wow, I simply cannot figure out how to use a modern fedora with just the keyboard
# [23:12] <@bsmedberg> this is unsettling
# [23:12] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: you're lucky, last time I tried I got stuck in the installation!
# [23:13] <@ehsan> fedora has been very unstable in my experience
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# [23:15] <philor> jorendorff: are you crashing in Linux64 tp?
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# [23:15] <jorendorff> looking
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# [23:16] <philor> inconveniently, we seem to get "permission denied" rather than a stack :(
# [23:17] <jorendorff> philor: wait, what are we looking at
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# [23:17] <jorendorff> philor: tp nochrome on Android is no help
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# [23:17] <jorendorff> i mean, the log is no help
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# [23:17] <philor> jorendorff: tp on Linux64, which is also no help
# [23:17] <jorendorff> rats
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# [23:19] <philor> wait, we're still *open*?
# [23:19] <jhammel> the company or the tree?
# [23:20] <philor> heh
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# [23:20] <philor> I was going to say we must be gluttons for punishment, but I guess I already knew that
# [23:20] <jhammel> there is that
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# [23:21] <jorendorff> philor: ok, well since i have no idea what it is i guess i'd better back it all out
# [23:21] <diogogmt> On linux, shouldn't this method be called when the window.innerHeight is requested? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/gtk2/nsWindow.cpp#1543
# [23:22] <philor> jorendorff: yeah, dunno, the tree's in horrible shape, maybe some other platform will give you a stack around midnight :(
# [23:22] <jorendorff> philor: do you want to do the honors? i get nervous backing out multiple changesets, but i'm totally willing to try
# [23:22] <jorendorff> philor: yes, one can always hope!
# [23:22] <philor> jorendorff: sure, I'll get it, I haven't broken the tree with a backout for several days in a row now!
# [23:23] <jorendorff> :)
# [23:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> still working on the 32-bit fedora slaves
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# [23:23] <jorendorff> philor: these changes actually got try-servered together on all platforms … with no talos though
# [23:23] <jorendorff> ops
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# [23:24] <mbrubeck> Still no Linux tests running? Yeah, let's close the tree...
# [23:24] <philor> yeah, it's always a surprise when it busts instead of just getting you with perf
# [23:24] <philor> mbrubeck: wanna close while I get this backout ready?
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# [23:25] <philor> I hate push-racing while backing out anyway :)
# [23:25] * mbrubeck changes topic to 'm-c: CLOSED m-i: CLOSED because Linux tests are backed up || Next aurora uplift: January 31st || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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# [23:25] <mbrubeck> philor: Don't forget CLOSED TREE.
# [23:26] <jhammel> mbrubeck: you're telling this to *philor*? ;)
# [23:26] <mbrubeck> That was just my cute way of saying "done." :)
# [23:26] <jhammel> :)
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# [23:30] <philor> ...but you included the magic words
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# [23:30] <philor> fortunately, the hook doesn't know that I only included them on the second of four qrefs :)
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# [23:31] <mbrubeck> If I ever add a tree hook, the override will be "PLEASE"
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# [23:35] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm about to burn a bunch of 64-bit fedora jobs an attempt to fix the 32-bit ones
# [23:35] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'll do my best to retrigger them all
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# [23:40] <philor> doesn't look like there's a tree where it would matter
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# [23:41] <philor> a single m-4 on inbound, nothing else I see has a real reason to care
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# [23:42] <bhearsum|buildduty> OK, i disabled devtools and places too, and now i've got some 32-bit fedora jobs running
# [23:43] <bhearsum|buildduty> need to fix the other test master, too, but we're makin gprogress
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# [23:43] <philor> sweet
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# [23:44] <philor> everybody must be "out sick" today anyway, only 1800 pending, on a good day we can hit that when everything *is* working
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# [23:47] <mdas> jgriffin: do you mind if I change the return value of some of the calls like getWindows to be 'value' instead of 'values' ?
# [23:47] <jgriffin> mdas: sure that's fine
# [23:47] <mdas> okay, I'll change the relevant parts of marionette.py and hte docs
# [23:47] <jgriffin> thanks
# [23:48] <mdas> thanks. it was just going to get gross on the server side to do one or the other
# [23:48] <mdas> "get gross" is a technical term, btw
# [23:48] <jgriffin> right, very specific meaning
# [23:49] <jhammel> get 144, right
# [23:49] <jhammel> or the baker's gross, 169
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# [23:51] <jhammel> mdas: congratulations!
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# [23:51] <sheppy> woot! #developers is teh awesome.
# [23:52] <jgilbert> wouldn't a baker's gross be 12x13 = 156?
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# [23:52] <mbrubeck> jlebar: Yeah, this reftest failure is looking pretty frequent. I'm going to back out your patch, sorry.
# [23:52] <jgilbert> you wouldn't need to make a whole extra batch (just in case)
# [23:53] <sheppy> Now I'm wondering what a baker's gross really would be. The great conundrum of our time!
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# [23:54] <WeirdAl> sheppy: btw, I'll be happy to answer questions on doc'ing XHR.timeout, which landed yesterday... you might need to e-mail me or ask on the weekend though
# [23:54] <sheppy> WeirdAl: kk; is that dev-doc-needed on the bug?
# [23:54] <WeirdAl> yes
# [23:54] <sheppy> Awesome.
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# [23:54] <sheppy> Dunno when I will get to it but will keep it in mind
# [23:54] <jhammel> jgilbert: nah, 13x13
# [23:55] <WeirdAl> heh, we've got 12 weeks ;)
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# [23:59] <jlebar> mbrubeck, no worries. Please let me know if you see the failure after I'm backed out, OK?
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