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1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 28 00:00:00 2012
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9. # [00:04] <mbrubeck> jlebar: Will do.
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20. # [00:08] <Jesse> bhearsum|buildduty: i'm confused, why were inactive branches using up resources? were we making no-change nightlies for them or something?
21. # [00:09] <bhearsum|buildduty> Jesse: it's hard to explain - there's a built in limit in Buildbot of number of "builders" per slave - once you go past that it breaks in really werid ways
22. # [00:09] <bhearsum|buildduty> by turning off branches, we reduce that number and get back into a workable state
23. # [00:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> it's a somewhat artificial limit though, so we'll probably double or quadruble it at some point - i just don't want to be doing that on a whim
24. # [00:10] <Jesse> hmm, ok. i hope we can eventually get to a point where inactive branches do not use up resources.
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30. # [00:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah
31. # [00:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> they're not using resources persay
32. # [00:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> like, we don't do nightlies or other jobs for them
33. # [00:11] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
34. # [00:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> so having the mdoesn't affect wait times until we hit this particular issue
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36. # [00:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> we've got a lot of blue sky plans for the infrastructure in general that we're hoping to get started on soon
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38. # [00:13] <camd> akeybl: are we meeting now in warp for for GC / CC?
39. # [00:13] <camd> or is that cancelled now?
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51. # [00:19] <@khuey> Jesse: does your fuzzer fuzz xhr?
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54. # [00:20] <@smaug> Jesse: and WebSocket?
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57. # [00:21] <Jesse> khuey: it uses sync XHR for the "spin the event loop" craziness, and creates XHR objects to poke at, but probably doesn't fuzz the interesting bits
58. # [00:21] <Jesse> smaug: i'm not testing websocket at all
59. # [00:21] <akeybl> camd: yep we're in warp core, but it's more of just a strategy meeting of where to move the bisection
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61. # [00:21] <Jesse> i think cdiehl has fuzzed websocket
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63. # [00:22] <@khuey> Jesse: we're starting the new dom bindings with XHR
64. # [00:22] <Jesse> khuey: ooh
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66. # [00:22] <@khuey> Jesse: so fuzzing xhr's knobs would be nice
67. # [00:22] <Jesse> khuey: can you help me figure out what the interesting bits are to fuzz? :)
68. # [00:22] <@khuey> Jesse: smaug can ;-)
69. # [00:22] * @smaug is interested in mem leaks with WebSocket and other new DOM stuff
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71. # [00:23] * @smaug throws some cheese to khuey
72. # [00:23] <@khuey> ha
73. # [00:23] <@khuey> hope it's not that last kind of cheese
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82. # [00:29] <@smaug> http://b/issue?id=xxxxx?
83. # [00:29] <@smaug> is that some Google internal thing
84. # [00:29] <blizzard> yeah
85. # [00:29] <blizzard> it is
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87. # [00:29] <blizzard> their bug tracker
88. # [00:29] <jhammel> chromezilla? ;)
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91. # [00:29] * jhammel wonders what architecture they use
92. # [00:29] <jhammel> but since they probably use SQL i probably don't care
93. # [00:30] <philor> having /b/ be your bugtracker would be sort of odd
94. # [00:30] <jhammel> no more so than me having my inbox be my bugtracker
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96. # [00:31] <qDot> "Why is this bug pedobear severity?"
97. # [00:31] <Jesse> philor++
98. # [00:31] <mauke> well, it would certainly lead to more cats and/or dicks in the bug comments
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102. # [00:32] <Jesse> RESOLVED ORLY
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104. # [00:32] <@dolske> khuey: "new dom bindings" as in dom.js?
105. # [00:33] <@smaug> dolske: no
106. # [00:33] <mauke> RESOLVED REPOST
107. # [00:33] <jdm> jwatt: can you drop a link to the relevant file in bug 299351?
108. # [00:34] <@smaug> dolske: new thing where super fast JS<->C++ bindings are automatically generated from webidl files
109. # [00:34] <@dolske> philor: VERIFIED TOOOLD ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ
110. # [00:34] <jwatt> jdm: sorry, what?
111. # [00:35] <jdm> jwatt: the bug says that changes need to be made in certain functions. could you leave a comment with an mxr link to the relevant files?
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113. # [00:35] <jdm> mentored bugs are often worked on by people who have no idea where anything is in the codebase
114. # [00:35] <jdm> links to files are a very helpful starting point
115. # [00:35] <qDot> WONTFIX tl;dr
116. # [00:35] <jwatt> jdm: ah, ok - there are dozens of files, so i'll link to the directory
117. # [00:35] <jdm> jwatt: great, thanks.
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127. # [00:44] <philor> jorendorff: a stack, a stack! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8890519&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error0
128. # [00:45] <jorendorff> thank you so much!
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137. # [00:52] * philor gets nervous about how tp is apparently the only thing exercising that bit of jseng
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143. # [00:53] * Waldo wonders when he'll get around to reading/listening to http://dbaron.org/tmp/poem.ogg so he doesn't get surprised by his computer making noises every time he session-restores
144. # [00:54] <Waldo> (hi, my name is Jeff, and I'm a tabaholic)
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147. # [00:55] <jhammel> lol
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149. # [00:55] <jhammel> sounds like you need bookmarks
150. # [00:55] <@dolske> Waldo: no puns? (boo-ze!)
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152. # [00:55] <jhammel> Waldo: well, its in tmp so it will eventually just 404
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154. # [00:55] <@dolske> Waldo: or flip the pref so that tabs don't load until selected
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157. # [00:56] <mbrubeck> Needs browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand
158. # [00:56] <@dolske> or the checkbox at the top of prefs -> general
159. # [00:59] <dholbert> mats, ping?
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161. # [00:59] <mats> dholbert: pong
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163. # [01:01] <dholbert> mats, it looks to me like this is sufficient to nerf direct-children-of-flexboxes from floating: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1464687 -- does that seem reasonable?
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165. # [01:01] <dholbert> mats, (this is orthogonal to your suggestion in the bug for transfering children between anonymous wrappers -- thanks for that, that's what I'm going to work on next)
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167. # [01:02] <dholbert> mats, no worries if you're not sure; just wanted a quick sanity check, if that code happens to look familiar to you. :)
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170. # [01:03] <espindola> where do we get the hg in the bots?
171. # [01:03] <espindola> is there a rpm somewhere?
172. # [01:04] <mats> dholbert: hmm, sufficient for what exctly?
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174. # [01:04] <dholbert> mats, to have "float:left" have no effect on direct children of a flexbox frame, basically
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176. # [01:05] <dholbert> mats, aside from the fact that it changes the computed value of "display" (since e.g. a floated inline becomes a block)
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178. # [01:06] <mats> dholbert: I don't see how the patch makes frames "not float", just that they will be on a child list of some ancestor...
179. # [01:06] <dholbert> mats, that's what happened to me before that pastebin'd patch (the floated frame would attach to an ancestor)
180. # [01:07] <dholbert> mats, but it looks like the GetFloatContainingBlock() teak prevents the floated frame from being able to find such an ancestor
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186. # [01:09] <mats> dholbert: sounds a bit weird to be honest...
187. # [01:09] <mats> dholbert: don't you need to change the computed value of 'float' to make things not float?
188. # [01:09] <dholbert> mats, the flexbox spec says "no". it's supposed to just be ignored
189. # [01:10] <dholbert> mats, (just from looking at the contextual code, it looks like this is how we nerf float inside mathml & display:-moz-box frames)
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193. # [01:12] <mats> dholbert: that's what I understood "ignored" to mean here - force any specified value to "none"
194. # [01:12] <mats> dholbert: I'd have to look at details to say anything for sure...
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196. # [01:13] <dholbert> mats, (nope -- in this case it's supposed to compute to "left", but it's just supposed to have no effect on layout, if it's the direct child of a flexbox)
197. # [01:14] <dholbert> (source: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/#display-flexbox -- <<‘float’ and ‘clear’ have no effect etc >>)
198. # [01:15] <mats> dholbert: oh, ok. I still don't see how the suggested patch would do that
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202. # [01:15] <mats> dholbert: it will still float right?
203. # [01:15] <dholbert> mats, nope, it doesn't seem to
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205. # [01:15] <dholbert> mats, and no float-list / placeholder frame is generated
206. # [01:16] <dholbert> mats, anyway, I'll dig a bit more to be sure it's sane & I'm not missing something
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208. # [01:16] <dholbert> mats, (but IIUC our ability to actually float frames depends on GetFloatContainingBlock() returning something useful)
209. # [01:16] <mbrubeck> mozilla-central is pretty much caught up; I'm going to reopen it.
210. # [01:17] <mats> dholbert: ok, no float-list/placeholder seems right
211. # [01:17] <dholbert> mats, cool
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213. # [01:17] <dholbert> thanks!
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216. # [01:17] <mbrubeck> inbound is still lagging a bunch; I'll wait a while. Hopefully it can reopen in an hour or so.
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228. # [01:26] <philor> wow, how did I break spacing between letters, with a backout?
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230. # [01:27] <philor> but at least I didn't cancel the tip Linux32 jsreftest, like someone did :)
231. # [01:29] <mbrubeck> I hope that wasn't me...
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234. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> I see it as purple in self-serve, but I don't actually see the log.
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236. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> oh, the debug one
237. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> It was me?
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239. # [01:31] <mbrubeck> Oh, I bet I was trying to be clever and cancel something it was coalesced with.
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242. # [01:32] <mbrubeck> retriggered
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254. # [01:39] <mbrubeck> looks like I was wrong to back out jlebar.
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272. # [01:58] <luke> mbrubeck: any eta on open m-i?
273. # [01:59] <mats> dholbert: your GetFloatContainingBlock() patch will probably do what you want in frame construction
274. # [01:59] <mbrubeck> luke: It's almost ready... I could probably open it now.
275. # [01:59] <mats> dholbert: watch out for existing uses of GetStyleDisplay()->IsFloating() though
276. # [01:59] <mats> dholbert: (which will still return true)
277. # [01:59] <jwatt> can someone with IE9+ to hand tell me if this shows red or green? https://bug721920.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=592325
278. # [01:59] <luke> mbrubeck: ooh yeah, do that :)
279. # [02:00] <mats> dholbert: it's used in nsIFrame::BuildDisplayListForChild for example, to create pseudo stacking context...
280. # [02:00] * mbrubeck opens the tree, hoping enough people are at MFBT that it doesn't get totally buried in pushes.
281. # [02:00] <luke> first!
282. # [02:00] * mbrubeck changes topic to 'm-c: OPEN m-i: OPEN || Next aurora uplift: January 31st || If you are new or want to help, see irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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284. # [02:01] <mbrubeck> People waiting for Try results are going to be waiting.... quite a while.
285. # [02:01] <mats> dholbert: which would make backgrounds different for float:none/left - that is, not "ignored" per flexbox spec
286. # [02:02] <dholbert> mats, ok, thanks for the IsFloating() warning
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288. # [02:02] <mats> dholbert: long term solution is to have GetUsedIsFloating() or something, that returns false in your case...
289. # [02:02] <qheaden> Hi all.
290. # [02:02] <dholbert> mats, heh
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292. # [02:04] <Pike> is this the time when we start worrying about stability for tuesday?
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295. # [02:06] <mbrubeck> philor: Looks like you're not the only one to break XP reftests with a backout!
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301. # [02:08] <dholbert> mats, (looks like in a few places we check (GetStateBits() & NS_FRAME_OUT_OF_FLOW) && GetStyleDisplay()->IsFloating(), which seems like a reasonable definition of GetUsedIsFloating() )
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303. # [02:09] <dholbert> mats, though actually never mind, because that bit is set for abspos content too, not just floats
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310. # [02:16] <cpearce> jaws: lol, I was literally just about to do that.
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312. # [02:16] <mats> dholbert: I think it would work, because in the abspos case we actually do force float:none per CSS spec:
313. # [02:16] <mats> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/nsRuleNode.cpp#4532
314. # [02:17] <dholbert> mats, oh, nice
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316. # [02:17] <jaws> cpearce: :P
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320. # [02:18] <niceday> hello alltogether
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322. # [02:19] <niceday> does someone know when firefox will support html5 webrtc (http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/webrtc.html) ?
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331. # [02:24] <dholbert> niceday, jesup_ or derf would know
332. # [02:24] <dholbert> though they may be gone for the day
333. # [02:25] <niceday> dholbert: ok, thanks for the info
334. # [02:25] <derf> niceday: The current plan is to have test builds by the end of Q1, and get things into an actual release at some point after that.
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336. # [02:25] <derf> But that's just an estimate.
337. # [02:26] <niceday> derf: hm ok, thanks. So it will take a a long time
338. # [02:26] <derf> Yes.
339. # [02:26] <derf> The standards aren't even finished yet.
340. # [02:27] <derf> Or even an approximation of finished.
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342. # [02:28] <niceday> derf: The idea was to have something like this: https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk
343. # [02:30] <niceday> derf: Maybe the "easiest" alternative to get something like this, is done with the flash player
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345. # [02:32] <niceday> derf: but i'm not sure if it's better to use the rtmfp protocol. Or to use flash only to get the webcam data and then do the connection with xmpp and libjingle
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355. # [02:40] <jwatt> dholbert: do you have some sort of whitespace xray vision or something?
356. # [02:40] <jwatt> :)
357. # [02:41] <dholbert> jwatt, haha. Sometimes I'll click-and-drag to select all the text in the patch, and that shows it.
358. # [02:41] <dholbert> jwatt, in this case, though, I felt bad having no review comments, so I ran it through JST review simulacrum just in case
359. # [02:41] <dholbert> and boom, that found it :)
360. # [02:41] <jwatt> yeah, it's annoying, thanks for catching it ;)
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362. # [02:41] <dholbert> np :)
363. # [02:42] <dholbert> jwatt, I'm looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=592324&action=diff now -- is there a reason nsSVGDisplayContainerFrame::Init calls nsSVGContainerFrameBase::Init? (not its parent class's method?)
364. # [02:42] <dholbert> jwatt, er actually nevermind, it makes sense
365. # [02:43] <jwatt> :)
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378. # [02:57] <jwatt> dholbert: thanks!
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428. # [03:47] <philor> that's what hg revert is there for
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461. # [04:12] <Waldo> heh
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463. # [04:12] <Waldo> for my part, I have two fixes already that I'm going to sit on til Tuesday
464. # [04:12] <philor> there's a *lot* I can't explain, between my lunchtime backout and the most recent backout
465. # [04:12] <Waldo> and a third that's just tweaks to a test that I could go either way on, we'll see how I feel
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471. # [04:25] <philor> I must be getting touchy in my old age, I'm starting to not like it when people refer to me as "noise" or "spam"
472. # [04:26] <Waldo> they do? that seems...odd
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493. # [05:01] <mike5w3c> ted: fyi, you have write access to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gamepad/ now
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503. # [05:35] <philor> as we answer the musical question "why do I not want to rebase as quickly as possible and push 45 seconds after someone else?"
504. # [05:35] <philor> roc: any reason to believe one or the other of your patches is at fault, or shall I just back them both out?
505. # [05:36] <philor> actually, let me rephrase that: "after I back both of them out, is there one that I should reland because it will have a fair possibility of not blowing up?"
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513. # [05:45] <@roc> looking
514. # [05:46] <@roc> oh
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519. # [05:52] <@roc> philor|away: it looks like bug 721627 is guilty and bug 721294 should reland
520. # [05:52] <mbrubeck> roc: Feel free to re-land it.
521. # [05:53] <@roc> I will thanks
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527. # [06:03] <philor> we need moar pushes - a few of the Linux32 slaves are escaping to do try pushes
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529. # [06:04] <mbrubeck> Pending jobs falls below 200. We are losing the War on Try.
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531. # [06:05] <philor> :D
532. # [06:06] <philor> War reminds me that I haven't looked at the nginx error page for woo today
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635. # [09:36] <gaston> ie http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1465446
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638. # [09:38] <gaston> (note that it's -pedantic by default, not -pedantic-errors)
639. # [09:38] <bz_sleep> remote: abort: pretxnchangegroup.c_commitmessage hook failed
640. # [09:38] <bz_sleep> wtf?
641. # [09:38] <bz_sleep> Message was: bug702466 - Validate internal stack state in xslt parser. r=sicking
642. # [09:39] <jfkthame> does it need a space after "bug"?
643. # [09:39] * bz_sleep guesses so
644. # [09:39] <bz_sleep> silly
645. # [09:39] <bz_sleep> apparently so
646. # [09:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dba0b31edfbf - John Schoenick - Bug 702466 - Validate internal stack state in xslt parser. r=sicking
647. # [09:39] * jfkthame sighs
648. # [09:39] <jfkthame> computers...they're so..... pedantic
649. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> dumb
650. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> the word you want is dumb
651. # [09:40] * jfkthame was pretending to be polite about it
652. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> heh
653. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> ok
654. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> off to the airtubes
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656. # [09:40] <bz_sleep> later, all!
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659. # [09:48] <gaston> ah, landing of 702158 might be causing my breakage...
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662. # [09:54] <gaston> right, comma at end of list is valid in C99, but when using g++ -pedantic it barfs
663. # [09:55] <jfkthame> gaston: yeah, unfortunately we need to avoid that - some other compilers choke on it too
664. # [09:55] <gaston> and pedantic seems on by default
665. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> roc, it seems to me like most optional arguments in WebIDL can be expressed with a default value in the IDL
666. # [09:56] <gaston> jfkthame: so what should i do ? fix the enums, fix pedantic, fix my 4.2.1 cry and run away ?
667. # [09:56] <Ms2ger> Fix the enums
668. # [09:56] <jfkthame> gaston: fix the enums
669. # [09:56] <jfkthame> if you just hide the error in your builds, you'll end up breaking other people's
670. # [09:56] <gaston> yay
671. # [09:57] <Ms2ger> Just like we usually do with your builds ;)
672. # [09:57] <gaston> :)
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685. # [10:25] <@roc> Ms2ger: I don't know if that's always true
686. # [10:25] <@roc> well, I know it's not
687. # [10:25] <Ms2ger> I deliberately didn't say "always" :)
688. # [10:25] <@roc> I suppose the other cases can be resolved as overloading
689. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> That would be nice
690. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> Oh, and I hate nsresult* ;)
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692. # [10:30] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, oh, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2012JanMar/0017.html may be relevant to your Constructor question earlier
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703. # [10:49] <@smaug> ttaubert: do you know if there are any addons which would let me to add some kinds of markers to tab bar
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705. # [10:50] <@smaug> I tend to order tabs
706. # [10:50] <@smaug> and would like to have marker like "between these two markers there are tabs/pages about cycle collection"
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708. # [10:53] <@roc> panorama tab groups?
709. # [10:54] <@smaug> I don't want to open any new window/view
710. # [10:55] <@smaug> just scroll the tab bar
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714. # [10:56] <darktrojan> people keep going on about https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab
715. # [10:58] <@smaug> that might work
716. # [10:59] <Ms2ger> Woo, static functions in IDL
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749. # [11:38] <gaston> Ms2ger: re/ skia, when is update.sh run ? doesn't seem to be run in a build, so my patch isn't applied on top of skia...
750. # [11:38] <Ms2ger> It's run when we update skia from upstream
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752. # [11:39] <Ms2ger> I think you can add the patch, and then run update.sh with the upstream revision noted in README_MOZILLA
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754. # [11:40] <gaston> and generate an hg diff from all that ? ie hg add patch, update.sh, hg qref (which will include both patch and patched files) ?
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759. # [11:44] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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781. # [12:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1e69d4086400 - ffxbld - Automated blocklist update from host linux-ix-slave32
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804. # [13:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/04d19214f561 - aceman - Bug 559500 - On about:support, "Open Containing Folder" is misleading. r=gavin
805. # [13:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/771fbd0b8718 - aceman - Bug 593443 - Add some new prefs to the about:support whitelist. r=Mossop
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861. # [15:24] <ewong> I had a working patch which I copied to this machine and applied it to an updated m-c.. (had some rejs..) refreshed.. and now it gives me http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1465709
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875. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> ewong|sleep, looks like you made IDBDatabase.h no longer include nsDOMEventTargetWrapperCache.h somehow
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882. # [15:58] <catlee-away> grrrrr...just restarted firefox to apply my nightly update and one of my windows with tons of tabs didn't come back
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903. # [16:17] <ewong|sleep> Ms2ger: thanks... I'll check the code when I'm back awake :)
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996. # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/284bcd56f151 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 652297. (Bv1) Add '-DMOZ_DEBUG=1' too to actually stop trying to package MSVC DLLs in debug Windows Firefox. r=ted.mielczarek.
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1030. # [18:49] <qDot> Is linux firefox-trunk built with gtk enabled? Trying to figure out the differences between protocol handling between a packaged firefox-trunk and my own build.
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1033. # [18:51] <mbrubeck> qDot: Yes, official builds use the default configure options for the most part, including MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT=gtk
1034. # [18:52] <qDot> Huh, ok, well, that kills that hypothesis.
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1036. # [18:56] <mbrubeck> https://build.mozilla.org/ is returning a certificate error... looks like the cert expired today.
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1041. # [19:01] <Gijs> mbrubeck: check if a bug has been filed and/or check with #it ?
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1043. # [19:02] <mbrubeck> will do
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1045. # [19:04] <mbrubeck> filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722061
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1048. # [19:06] <mbrubeck> and added an exception so I can use TBPL in the meantime. :/
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1119. # [20:45] <Gijs> mbrubeck: sorry for the late reply. Did you get no response in #it ? I'd imagine this is a fairly high-prio issue...
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1121. # [20:45] <Gijs> (but, like anyone, I could be wrong!)
1122. # [20:46] <Callek> Gijs: you mean build.m.o cert?
1123. # [20:46] <Callek> Gijs: I CC'ed release@m.o and someone will notice soonish, that its a weekend compounds the issue -- especially since there are plans in place for many teams to work this weekend, but very very focused
1124. # [20:47] <Callek> s/.o/.c/
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1126. # [20:47] <Callek> Gijs: if that is it: Bug 722061
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1142. # [20:58] <Gijs> Callek: yes. OK, if people are on it, that works. But you're confirming to me it's high prio, in which case maybe severity > normal is warranted. :)
1143. # [20:58] * Gijs has been trying to find the magic list of how IT interprets severity (ie pagers, phones ringing etc.) but has been unsuccessful
1144. # [20:59] <Callek> Asa: happen to have a few brief moments? I feel we may need to sync re: the very brief e-mail convo, I just want to make sure we're both looking at that with the same (Firefox-side) thoughts in mind
1145. # [20:59] <Callek> Gijs: I'm not sure if people are actually working on it, just know theres a bug on file... I don't pretend to understand (at this time) what the right prio is there, but if you feel it needs to be high, feel free to set a severity a bit higher, but say why when you do :-)
1146. # [21:00] <Gijs> Callek: I'm not involved, so I'm not the right person to tickle that bug. ;)
1147. # [21:00] <Callek> Asa: I have a suspicion the overall point of me e-mailing you on it was lost, but thats what I want to chat about -- basically.
1148. # [21:00] * Gijs would still like to find IT's magic list
1149. # [21:01] <Gijs> I have a feeling it was a blogpost by justdave sometime or something, but google has so far not helped me find it back.
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1153. # [21:02] <kwierso> Gijs: "normal" = "it should get to it within the next week", according to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/form:itrequest
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1156. # [21:03] <philor> Gijs: https://blog.mozilla.com/it/2011/09/26/working-with-it-bug-submissions/
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1160. # [21:04] <Gijs> kwierso, philor: Thanks!
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1163. # [21:05] <philor> but normal is fine, people aren't dying from having to accept an expired cert to retrigger builds
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1166. # [21:06] <Gijs> :)
1167. # [21:06] <philor> tbpl's ui for letting you know what the problem is could conceivably be a little better, though...
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1169. # [21:06] <philor> "(network error)"
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1171. # [21:07] <Gijs> Does tbpl do client-side requests to build.m.o for that stuff? If so, it might not get any better info...
1172. # [21:07] <philor> it does, and I wondered whether or not it was possible to do better
1173. # [21:07] <philor> since one of the possibilities catlee raised first thing this morning was using the self-signed cert
1174. # [21:09] <Gijs> Hmm, so it does, but in fact it looks like it's requesting build.m.o over http rather than https?
1175. # [21:09] * Gijs might not have used the right requests...
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1177. # [21:09] <Gijs> Anyway, my experience with jQuery (which it uses) is that you get an error callback which says 'error', and very little else.
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1179. # [21:10] <philor> GET https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c215e31b7d0?format=json, POST https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound/build
1180. # [21:11] * Gijs wonders if we're looking at the same page.
1181. # [21:11] <Gijs> I just see it looking for builds-running / builds-pending.
1182. # [21:12] <philor> oh, them, I'm retriggering
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1184. # [21:12] <Gijs> Ah.
1185. # [21:12] <Gijs> You actually *need* auth + ssl for that, I suppose?
1186. # [21:13] <philor> yeah, pretty sure buildapi redirects you if you don't hit ssl
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1189. # [21:13] <philor> indeed
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1191. # [21:14] <Gijs> The easiest (general way around that I can quickly think of would be proxying through tbpl itself and overriding the cert warning there.
1192. # [21:15] <Gijs> What was the idea with the self-signed cert?
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1195. # [21:17] <philor> like https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/ - it would be faster than updating a real cert, with the slight disadvantage that it wouldn't really do any good :)
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1198. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> bholley, boo ;)
1199. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> dholbert, *really* done with bugspam? :)
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1201. # [21:20] <dholbert> Ms2ger, yes, now I am :D
1202. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> bholley, 8 non-xpc includes... Of which two are in DOMClassinfo :)
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1205. # [21:32] <Callek> Asa: I'll take the no reply here as "I don't have time" please ping me if you notice this and have time later.
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1221. # [21:52] <Asa> Callek: wasn't following this channel closely. What's up?
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1223. # [21:52] <bjacob> When I try to find the correct arguments to pass to a function i don't understand, it feels like i'm filling out a government form
1224. # [21:53] <Callek> Asa: do you have a few minutes to discuss the e-mail exchange we had, I have a gut feeling based on your reply that the main point I was trying to express was missed (and/or that we may not have a shared understanding of the overall issue [with Firefox in mind of course])
1225. # [21:53] <Callek> Asa: just want to be sure we are on the same page there
1226. # [21:54] <Callek> Asa: it is not urgent, and we can defer even a week or two if need be, just figured it best to discuss while its in both our minds.
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1228. # [21:58] <Asa> Callek: sure. tell me more.
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1230. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> bjacob, IDL? :)
1231. # [22:02] <bjacob> Ms2ger: trying to figure how to call xpc_qsXPCOMObjectToJsval in CustomQS_Canvas2D.h
1232. # [22:02] <bjacob> there is already a use of it in that file, but it seems very intricate
1233. # [22:02] <bjacob> i dont know what qsObjectHelper to pass it
1234. # [22:03] * Ms2ger has a look
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1236. # [22:03] <bjacob> rather, i dont know what 'interface' object to pass to qsObjectHelper. Should I just create a new ImageData and cast?
1237. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> Huh
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1239. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> It seems to me that the xpc_qsGetWrapperCache users in that file are just broken
1240. # [22:05] <bjacob> oh :)
1241. # [22:06] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, yt?
1242. # [22:06] <Ms2ger> Or peterv, but I guess that's even less likely
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1245. # [22:07] * bjacob notes that xpc_qsXPCOMObjectToJsval has 4 different acronyms in its name
1246. # [22:07] <jtcranmer> s/To/2/ and you'd have five
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1249. # [22:08] <jtcranmer> hell, make it xpc_qsXPCOMObj2Jsval
1250. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> // This is one of the slowest things quick stubs do.
1251. # [22:08] * jtcranmer wonders
1252. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> XPConnect, always inspiring confidence
1253. # [22:08] <jtcranmer> how many people know about the js-ctypes getRuntime backdoor
1254. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> bjacob, looks like qsObjectHelper helper(imageData, NULL); should work
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1257. # [22:10] <Jesse> wtf, firefox can't connect to anything, but safari can
1258. # [22:11] <Ms2ger> But can you watch porn with it?
1259. # [22:11] <Jesse> i have a bunch of tabs trying to load bug reports from bugzilla
1260. # [22:11] <Jesse> and one tab trying to load something, but its url bar shows about:blank, so i'm scared to stop it or use session restore
1261. # [22:12] <Jesse> and reload doesn't do anything at all in the tabs that do have the URL they're trying to load in the url bar
1262. # [22:12] <Jesse> aaaargh
1263. # [22:13] <bjacob> Ms2ger: thanks. here, imageData is a new ImageData I just construct? and keep alive with a ref to it?
1264. # [22:13] <Ms2ger> Mm
1265. # [22:14] <Ms2ger> Note that if you pass a nsCOMPtr to qsObjectHelper, it will be null afterwards
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1268. # [22:15] <Jesse> ok, at least session restore didn't completely fuck that up
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1276. # [22:25] <jtcranmer> "Keys equality is not based on the same algorithm than the one used in the === operator."
1277. # [22:25] <jtcranmer> what does that mean?
1278. # [22:25] <jtcranmer> maybe s/than/as/ is appropriate
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1282. # [22:27] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, where'd you get that from?
1283. # [22:28] <jtcranmer> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map
1284. # [22:28] <Ms2ger> Ah
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1286. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, I assume it uses the 'is' operator, then
1287. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> Also, -t-?
1288. # [22:30] <jtcranmer> trying to decide if I should use that yet or not
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1290. # [22:31] <Ms2ger> Do it and provide feedback :)
1291. # [22:31] <jtcranmer> I need to update my trunk fist
1292. # [22:31] <jtcranmer> first
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1294. # [22:32] <Ms2ger> twss
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1333. # [23:21] <@khuey> firebot: mrbkap?
1334. # [23:21] <firebot> khuey: mrbkap is Blake Kaplan <mrbkap@gmail.com> - interested in parser and js
1335. # [23:21] <@khuey> ah, @gmail
1336. # [23:23] <@khuey> philor: that log that you CCd me for is a nice worker shutdown hang
1337. # [23:24] * @khuey is going to make bent debug it when he gets back from paris
1338. # [23:24] <@khuey> also
1339. # [23:24] <@khuey> bholley++
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1343. # [23:29] <@khuey> so, when did we make mochitest start leaking every subframe window?
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1348. # [23:33] <philor> we had a knife, we wanted to poke something with it, next thing we knew we were leaking
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1353. # [23:46] <bjacob> anyone knows what constants such as k_nsIDOMCanvasPattern are and where they are defined?
1354. # [23:47] <bjacob> MXR doesn't know about them, the only occurence is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/canvas/src/CustomQS_Canvas2D.h#120
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1357. # [23:49] <bjacob> oh, it's defined in dom_quickstubs.cpp
1358. # [23:49] <bjacob> in objdir
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1360. # [23:51] <sicking> do we have a macro or similar for aborting in optimized builds?
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1363. # [23:52] <adeubank> Hi malen
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1367. # [23:53] <Standard8> sicking: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/nsprpub/pr/src/io/prlog.c#570 ?
1368. # [23:54] <sicking> perfect
1369. # [23:54] <Standard8> :-)
1370. # [23:55] <malen> Hi I am new to this. I am looking for a tiny project to work on for my software development class. Does any body have any idea?
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1373. # [23:58] <jbuck> malen: you can search for bugs that have mentors on them with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sw%3A[mentor%3D&list_id=2170097 or http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
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