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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 30 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:02] <philor> the part that amazes me is how much better the Android tests look after just throwing out six or seven ill-behaved slaves
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  6. # [00:07] <darktrojan> firefox 12: the one where we fixed the tree?
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  10. # [00:10] <@khuey> heycam: ping
  11. # [00:11] <heycam> khuey, pong
  12. # [00:12] <@khuey> heycam: is 'Constructor' a valid interface name
  13. # [00:12] <heycam> khuey, it is. the names of extended attributes aren't reserved words
  14. # [00:13] <@khuey> yeah, I was afraid of that
  15. # [00:13] <heycam> khuey, ?
  16. # [00:13] <heycam> the reserved words are only the quoted tokens you see in the grammar
  17. # [00:13] <heycam> and even then, you can escape them with a leading "_" if you really want to define an interface with such a name
  18. # [00:14] <kaie> if I want a gender neutral term that describes the area above the chest and between the shoulder, left hand side, how would you call that? (for the purpose of an email where I want to propose to wear a name sticker at this position)
  19. # [00:14] <@khuey> heycam: well it makes it a bit more difficult to parse, I think
  20. # [00:14] <kaie> "above the heart"?
  21. # [00:15] <@khuey> kaie: historically that's what 'breast' meant
  22. # [00:16] <kaie> yes, will everyone be happy with that term, or will some complain about the ambiguity?
  23. # [00:17] <kaie> maybe I'll just say "attach to your t-shirt or jacket"
  24. # [00:17] <kaie> I'll do that, thanks for listening
  25. # [00:17] <@khuey> depends on your audience, I suppose
  26. # [00:17] <@khuey> I'd probably pick a different term
  27. # [00:17] <kaie> fosdem crowd
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  38. # [00:26] <jtcranmer> sigh
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  40. # [00:26] <jtcranmer> why do people take so long to review my patches?
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  43. # [00:27] <jtcranmer> they're only like 50KiB
  44. # [00:27] <jtcranmer> (and half of that is pretty much just code motion)
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  82. # [01:22] <@khuey> bsmith: ping
  83. # [01:22] <bsmith> khuey: pong
  84. # [01:22] <@khuey> bsmith: so I've been following these cache service blocking the main thread bugs
  85. # [01:23] <@khuey> bsmith: how come we're not fixing the cache service doing i/o while holding a lock?
  86. # [01:23] <@khuey> and instead trying to fix the main thread attempting to acquire that lock?
  87. # [01:23] <bsmith> khuey: That is one of the thinks that hutley is trying to do
  88. # [01:24] <bsmith> hurley
  89. # [01:24] <@khuey> ok
  90. # [01:24] <bsmith> but, AFAICT, it is easier to do things the other way
  91. # [01:24] <bsmith> and just not access the cache service on the main thread at all
  92. # [01:24] <@khuey> cache sounds pretty broken then ;-)
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  94. # [01:25] <bsmith> :)
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  97. # [01:26] <bsmith> khuey: the cache lock needs to be split up into multiple locks
  98. # [01:26] <@khuey> ah
  99. # [01:26] <bsmith> the problem is there are ~50 places where that lock is acquired, it takes some time to figure out which operations really need to block each other
  100. # [01:26] <@khuey> that sounds fun
  101. # [01:27] <bsmith> so the same lock that protects the index to the metadata protects each individual entry's data too
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  103. # [01:28] <bsmith> and the same locks that protect each entry's disk I/O protect everything else
  104. # [01:29] <bsmith> It is not easy to answer the question "which operations directly or indirectly do disk I/O in the cache holding the cache lock"
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  120. # [01:44] <qheaden> How can I invoke a refresh of the addon manager addon list?
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  124. # [01:49] <Unfocused> qheaden: hi :) where do you want to do that from?
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  126. # [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d10da858631a - Joe Drew - Back out 9699edcbcedd (bug 721467) for causing bug 722167.
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  129. # [01:55] <qheaden> Unfocused: Hey there! I'm trying to do it from the search addon provider.
  130. # [01:55] <qheaden> Basically, I am notifying the provider of a reordering of addons, and I need it to refresh the screen after moving the search engines around.
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  133. # [02:00] <Unfocused> qheaden: ah... you should try to avoid refreshing the entire list - it will lead to flickering
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  135. # [02:01] <Unfocused> when the UI sets the uiPriority property, the provider should send a onPropertyChanged event - with ["uiPriority"] as the argument
  136. # [02:01] <Unfocused> and do that for all search engines who's order got changed
  137. # [02:02] <qheaden> Ahh ok. So what object should that event be sent to?
  138. # [02:02] <Unfocused> then the UI can just move specific items in the list
  139. # [02:02] <Unfocused> use AddonManagerPrivate.callAddonListeners()
  140. # [02:03] <Unfocused> like this here: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/XPIProvider.jsm#7581
  141. # [02:03] <qheaden> Thanks.
  142. # [02:03] <Unfocused> (where "this" is the addon whose property changed)
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  145. # [02:06] <qheaden> Is there an easy way I can hook a callback into onPropertyChanged for a specific property?
  146. # [02:07] <qheaden> For example, could I create a function that reacts to a change of uiPriority?
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  151. # [02:09] <Unfocused> qheaden: yep, something like this: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/extensions.js#3029
  152. # [02:09] <Unfocused> just add a onPropertyChanged function, and you'll automatically get those events
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  157. # [02:15] <qheaden> Hmm, I'm trying to call the addon listener, but the list still isn't updating. Should it automatically update, or do I have to hook into the event and update myself?
  158. # [02:16] <Unfocused> oh, you'll need to write the code to update the list when you get that event - it won't happen automatically
  159. # [02:17] <qheaden> Ahh ok.
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  163. # [02:21] <jdm> hooray, today's nightly keeps spinning at 100% for me
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  165. # [02:22] <qheaden> So how can I get the gListView.show method to be called again? That's the function which pushes all of the addon richlist items, and sets up their events. Do I need to dispach some sort of event?
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  169. # [02:27] <Unfocused> qheaden: in your provider, send the onPropertyChanged event (using AddonManagerPrivate.callAddonListeners). in the addon XBL binding, add a function named "onPropertyChanged" - that will be called when you send the onPropertyChanged event
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  171. # [02:28] <Unfocused> in that function, call a function you've added in gListView (like gListView.reorderItem) to re-position that item
  172. # [02:28] <qheaden> Ok, I understand that, but what should that function call in order to have the addons change order on the screen?
  173. # [02:29] <qheaden> In other words, how do I make the uiPriority change visible?
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  177. # [02:32] <WG9s> I remember going to see this move when it first came out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windjammer_%281958_film%29
  178. # [02:32] <Unfocused> thats what gListView.reoderItem is for - get the element you want to change the position of, and use item.parentNode.insertAfter() to move it
  179. # [02:33] <Unfocused> (insertAfter is a normal DOM method)
  180. # [02:33] <Unfocused> er, sorry - insertBefore, not insertAfter
  181. # [02:33] <Unfocused> see https://developer.mozilla.org/En/DOM/Node.insertBefore
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  185. # [02:39] <qheaden> Unfocused: Ok, I don't see any gListView.reorderItem, but I get the concept. Just remove the addon richlist item from the list, and reinstert it in its new priority location.
  186. # [02:40] <Unfocused> yep :)
  187. # [02:40] <Unfocused> you'll need to implement gListView.reorderItem yourself
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  191. # [02:42] <@dolske> hmm, anyone seeing graphical gliching on icloud.com?
  192. # [02:43] <@dolske> (like uninit memory, garbarge squares from other pages)
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  194. # [02:43] <philor> with the tip of m-c?
  195. # [02:44] <joe> dolske: bug 722167, I just checked in the backout
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  198. # [02:45] <Unfocused> qheaden: btw, you can use richlistbox.getItemAtIndex() to get an item at a specific index. that will help with where to insert the item you want to change the position of
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  200. # [02:50] <@dolske> ah, cool
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  204. # [02:54] <@dolske> oy, imma need to install yesterday's nightly. :(
  205. # [02:59] <joe> or just turn off hw accel
  206. # [02:59] <joe> for now
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  208. # [03:02] <larfdesk> I found a crasher! http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/Preschool/Default.html
  209. # [03:02] <larfdesk> I"m using the latest beta... crashes every 2-3 times I go through it
  210. # [03:02] <joe> dolske: I'd respin the nightly, except the nightly is going to respin itself in like 5 hours
  211. # [03:03] <@dolske> yeah
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  213. # [03:03] <@dolske> kinda a shame we didn't catch it on the test boxes.
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  216. # [03:03] <joe> yeah
  217. # [03:03] <joe> somehow this doesn't break tests
  218. # [03:03] <joe> oh, and it happens mostly on intel as well
  219. # [03:03] <joe> our test machines are nvidia
  220. # [03:03] <joe> soooo
  221. # [03:04] <joe> larfdesk: do you have an example of the crash in about:crashes?
  222. # [03:04] <larfdesk> one sec
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  224. # [03:04] <@dolske> might be interesting to consider a small, varied pool of gfx testers, just running some gfx tests.
  225. # [03:04] <WG9s> Ohh. was going to ask how the developer didn't find the issue, but I guess that explains it.
  226. # [03:05] <larfdesk> yeah.. its in here... what do you want tme to do with it?
  227. # [03:05] <joe> give the link
  228. # [03:05] <larfdesk> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-bd5de7aa-7704-425f-8c87-ac53f2120130
  229. # [03:05] <joe> huh
  230. # [03:05] <joe> that's very odd
  231. # [03:05] <joe> what about others?
  232. # [03:06] <joe> that one is "empty"
  233. # [03:06] <larfdesk> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-87e36ea7-6913-45c0-a823-7e0a12120130
  234. # [03:06] <jdm> woo, something about sqlite3 has changed recently
  235. # [03:06] <joe> gah same issue
  236. # [03:06] <jdm> and now the sqlite thread spins at 100% if my screen shuts off
  237. # [03:06] <jdm> and doesn't stop
  238. # [03:06] <joe> it's a feature
  239. # [03:08] <larfdesk> where is the example at?
  240. # [03:08] <WG9s> and so is that one.
  241. # [03:08] <larfdesk> cancel the last statement :P was scrolled up
  242. # [03:09] <joe> larfdesk: possibly it's an out-of-memory issue
  243. # [03:09] <jdm> either that or the empty plugin crash submissions
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  245. # [03:10] <larfdesk> I get crashes for out of memory.. when 2gigs of physical memory are taken up.. but I'm currently at 1.4
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  268. # [03:47] <reuben> weird, I'm seeing corrupted widgets on firefox when scrolling and then selecting something: http://cl.ly/Dk4H
  269. # [03:47] <@khuey> yes, we know it's broken
  270. # [03:47] <@khuey> it'll be fixed tomorrow
  271. # [03:47] <reuben> ah, okay.
  272. # [03:49] <jdm> I can't wait
  273. # [03:49] <WG9s> assuming you are using a MAC
  274. # [03:49] <jdm> it's almost as frustrating as the sqlite3 cpu gobbler
  275. # [03:50] <@khuey> if you can't wait you can turn off hw accel
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  277. # [03:50] <WG9s> the offending patch was backed out.
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  282. # [03:55] <WG9s> Trying to make things work better with vendor N graphics card made things work worse with vendor A graphics card as I understand the issue.
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  286. # [03:57] <WG9s> Type of thing I thought was not supposed to happen on MACs because there was only one hardware configuration. GO figure!
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  347. # [05:40] <glob> my nightly install has hung again; anyone awake who can guide me though gathering diagnostic info before i restart it?
  348. # [05:41] <glob> i have a backtrace for all threads: http://glob.pastebin.mozilla.org/1468079
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  353. # [05:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e33539a90ae2 - Doug Turner - Bug 722118 - Android make package fails if --disable-tests. r=blassey
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  373. # [06:25] <jtcranmer> probably a bad time to ask this
  374. # [06:26] <jtcranmer> but on which threads can I call socket::isAlive?
  375. # [06:28] <biesi_> funny you should ask...
  376. # [06:28] <biesi_> jtcranmer, is it an SSL socket?
  377. # [06:28] <jtcranmer> let me rephrase
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  379. # [06:29] <jtcranmer> I've got a socket connection (may be SSL, may not be) which delivers to the main thread
  380. # [06:29] <jtcranmer> is it safe to try on the main thread?
  381. # [06:29] <biesi_> well
  382. # [06:29] <biesi_> on the one hand, there's http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/public/nsISocketTransport.idl#51
  383. # [06:29] <jtcranmer> I've been looking at the bugs
  384. # [06:29] <biesi_> on the other hand, that's broken for non-sockettransport thread, AIUI
  385. # [06:29] <jtcranmer> it says it's safe to run on the "socket thread"
  386. # [06:30] <jtcranmer> I think bienvenu fixed it for IMAP by moving the call to the IMAP thread
  387. # [06:30] <roc> glob: still got it?
  388. # [06:30] <biesi_> it's kinda messy right now because of recent changes
  389. # [06:31] <biesi_> the intention is/used to be that you can call it anywhere
  390. # [06:31] <jtcranmer> that's why I'm asking and not merely assuming that the IDL is correct
  391. # [06:31] <glob> roc, sorry, had to start work
  392. # [06:31] <biesi_> I think we should try to make impl match the IDL
  393. # [06:31] <biesi_> but it sounded like other people don't necessarily agree
  394. # [06:32] <jtcranmer> (actually, I knew that it was problematic before and only stumbled on the fact that the IDL claims to be threadsafe last night when I was trying to find the interface that went ERK, MAIN THREAD ONLY)
  395. # [06:32] <jtcranmer> (that latter interface is nsIChannel for future reference)
  396. # [06:32] <biesi_> ah yes
  397. # [06:32] <glob> roc, anything else you suggest i point at it the next time it happens? (to me it looks like it's hanging while crashing)
  398. # [06:32] <biesi_> channels are indeed mainthread only
  399. # [06:32] <biesi_> jtcranmer, I think the upshot is, talk to jduell tomorrow
  400. # [06:33] <jtcranmer> I posted it in the bug I was about to work on
  401. # [06:33] <roc> glob: yes, in your pastebin thread 28 looks guilty
  402. # [06:33] <jtcranmer> hopefully I can ping bienvenu tomorrow and go from there
  403. # [06:33] <roc> js::crash::Ring::push
  404. # [06:34] <roc> so you should file a bug on the JS engine and mention that
  405. # [06:34] <jtcranmer> mozilla::mailnews::mime, maybe I ought to go with mozilla::mime instead :-)
  406. # [06:34] <glob> roc, thanks :)
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  414. # [06:47] <ewong> hi.. if given https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f6e9e43435b6, I'm looking at |Rev3 Fedora 12 try debug test mochitests-1/5|, it's giving me an 'undefined' error and I have no clue what this means
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  416. # [06:49] <ewong> how do I know if it's related to my patch?
  417. # [06:50] <heycam> ewong, you have a look at the actual test
  418. # [06:50] <heycam> ewong, the author of the test just didn't put any informative string in for their ok() calls
  419. # [06:50] <ewong> heycam oh.. ok. thanks!
  420. # [06:52] <heycam> ewong, the test has to do with JS object wrappers on XHR objects
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  424. # [06:56] <ewong> hrm.. it does sound like something is screwy with my patch.. :(
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  429. # [07:08] <ewong> it goes to say.. just because it builds/compiles, it doesn't mean it works...
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  507. # [09:14] <ewong> !seen darktrojan
  508. # [09:14] <firebot> darktrojan was last seen 9 hours, 7 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying 'firefox 12: the one where we fixed the tree?' in #developers.
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  515. # [09:26] <ewong> can someone point out how I can just run a specific test instead of the whole mochitest-plain?
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  519. # [09:28] <kwierso> ewonghttps://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mochitest#Running_select_tests ?
  520. # [09:28] <ewong> right... thanks kwierso
  521. # [09:29] <darktrojan> https://www.darktrojan.net/news/2012-01/test-running-script ?
  522. # [09:29] <darktrojan> ;-)
  523. # [09:29] <kwierso> darktrojan: cert error known?
  524. # [09:29] <darktrojan> oh yeah ditch the s
  525. # [09:29] <darktrojan> I blame my awesomebar
  526. # [09:30] <kwierso> it loves you anyway
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  528. # [09:30] * darktrojan always forgets that other people haven't added an exception
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  531. # [09:33] <ewong> darktrojan: do I run this runtests.py from a specific dir?
  532. # [09:33] <darktrojan> from the src root
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  534. # [09:34] <darktrojan> best documentation EVER
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  537. # [09:38] <ewong> darktrojan: reason why I ask is I'm getting this :http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468238
  538. # [09:39] <ewong> Oooh nvm.. I think I saved the wrong file...
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  540. # [09:39] <darktrojan> I think so too
  541. # [09:39] <darktrojan> try getting the script not the hg page with the script on it
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  545. # [09:41] <ewong> darktrojan: right.. that's what I did.. saved the hg page.. silly me.\
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  547. # [09:41] <darktrojan> I hate it when that happens
  548. # [09:42] <ewong> darktrojan: just want to confirm.. |python ./runtest.py content/base/test/test_bug382871.html| right?
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  550. # [09:42] <darktrojan> yeah, shouldn't need the |python| though
  551. # [09:42] <ewong> it does
  552. # [09:42] <darktrojan> hm
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  555. # [09:42] <ewong> running on a Windows system
  556. # [09:43] <darktrojan> oh
  557. # [09:43] <darktrojan> I think you can change the first line and it works on windows
  558. # [09:44] * darktrojan hasn't used windows for a while
  559. # [09:44] <ewong> darktrojan: with |python ./runtest.py content/base/test/test_bug382871.html| I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468251
  560. # [09:46] <darktrojan> bah, I'll go have a look at that makefile
  561. # [09:48] <darktrojan> ewong, can you just check it runs on toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/browser/browser_inlinesettings.js ?
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  565. # [09:49] <ewong> darktrojan: nope.. get this :http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468266
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  568. # [09:50] <ewong> so I dunno if I'm running it wrongly
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  570. # [09:50] <darktrojan> wtf
  571. # [09:50] <darktrojan> could be a windows problem
  572. # [09:50] <darktrojan> hmm
  573. # [09:51] <ewong> ahh.. would probably make sense.. seeing as your script is *nix based
  574. # [09:51] <ewong> and Windows' path are so different... ;/
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  576. # [09:52] <darktrojan> but if you run that first line of output, it works, right?
  577. # [09:52] <ewong> sorry.. you mean I run |TEST_PATH=.... |?
  578. # [09:52] <darktrojan> yes
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  580. # [09:53] <ewong> it works
  581. # [09:53] <darktrojan> odd
  582. # [09:53] <darktrojan> something funny going on there with the way I'm running stuff then
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  589. # [09:59] <darktrojan> ewong, found the first bug (doesn't help you much if it won't run, but progress!)
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  599. # [10:04] <ewong> wish there was something I can do to help.. don't really understand python code that much
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  606. # [10:08] <gcp> mak: for bug 721320 your "if your app exits abruptly may easily corrupt the db" has me puzzled.
  607. # [10:08] <gcp> mak: sqlite docs pretty much claim that needs a 1/2^32 checksum collision to happen
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  612. # [10:14] <darktrojan> ewong, try this version: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468286
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  615. # [10:15] <darktrojan> I don't want to do it that way, but if it works...
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  618. # [10:18] <ewong> darktrojan: it works.. :)
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  621. # [10:18] <darktrojan> okay, I'm blaming windows' rubbish build environment
  622. # [10:19] <ewong> heh
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  624. # [10:19] <glazou> bonjour
  625. # [10:19] * darktrojan makes a snarky commit message and pushes
  626. # [10:19] <darktrojan> hi
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  628. # [10:19] <glazou> is there anything better than a good french croissant and an espresso when you wake up...
  629. # [10:20] <Unfocused> world peace?
  630. # [10:20] <glazou> Unfocused: I can't buy that next corner, unfortunately
  631. # [10:20] <darktrojan> probably but I'm single right now so that isn't going to happen soon
  632. # [10:21] <Unfocused> although,admittedly, the croissant is extremely temping (i really miss being able to eat croissants)
  633. # [10:21] <Unfocused> darktrojan: haha...
  634. # [10:21] <darktrojan> he did ask
  635. # [10:21] <glazou> darktrojan: lol
  636. # [10:23] <glazou> darktrojan: it's only because you can't buy that next corner either ? ;-)
  637. # [10:23] <Unfocused> well, you can....
  638. # [10:24] <glazou> chhhhhhhhh, don't tell him
  639. # [10:24] <ewong> ok.. I've run the single test and it's confirmed that the test fails.. given https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8923638&tree=Try, can someone point out how i can figure out how it breaks? I'm getting 'undefined' which doesn't help me :(
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  646. # [10:28] <Unfocused> ewong: wow, that's an incredibly unhelpful error :\
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  648. # [10:28] <ewong> and it doesn't help me more as this is my first foray into these tests
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  650. # [10:29] <mak> gcp: not just file corruption, data coherence corruption is also a possibility
  651. # [10:29] <Unfocused> ewong: i'd start by adding some logging to that test, but it's most likely line 23
  652. # [10:30] <mak> gcp: that said, it may depend on the synchronous mode of the db
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  654. # [10:31] <mak> gcp: (depending on what you mean by abruptly, like removing the power plug?)
  655. # [10:32] <gcp> mak: I think app crashes are most relevant for the Android app
  656. # [10:32] <ewong> Unfocused: thanks for the hint!
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  658. # [10:32] <mak> gcp: yeah, btw likely in normal mode ou're more than safe
  659. # [10:32] <gcp> mak: ok
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  662. # [10:34] <darktrojan> glazou, I meant having someone else bring you the croissant and coffee, what were you thinking of?
  663. # [10:35] <glazou> how can you think I was thinking of something else... :-)
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  674. # [10:44] <ewong> Unfocused: just wondering.. in this test_bug382871.html, where exactly is this 'randomProperty' set?
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  677. # [10:46] <ewong> Unfocused: oh..nvm.. noticed it after I asked that question.. sorry
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  682. # [10:49] <ewong> does Venkman exist for Nightly?
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  684. # [10:50] <glazou> you have to build it yourself but it works
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  687. # [10:51] <glazou> ewong : clone http://hg.mozilla.org/venkman and launch makexpi.py in the xpi directory
  688. # [10:52] <glazou> I am using it right now in bluegriffon
  689. # [10:52] <glazou> of course, venkman is still abandonware :-(
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  691. # [10:52] <glazou> we don't have a real chrome debugging environment at this time
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  695. # [10:53] <glazou> :(
  696. # [10:53] <ewong> isn't there supposed to be a JSD2 or something like that?
  697. # [10:53] <ewong> oh I mean Venkman 2 or something like that
  698. # [10:54] <glazou> there is a JSM allowing to build a new debugger
  699. # [10:54] <glazou> I have not seen the debugging environment yet if it even exists
  700. # [10:57] <Unfocused> it's going through reviews
  701. # [10:58] <ewong> is it possible to get -console when running local tests?
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  708. # [11:05] <jaws> roc: ping?
  709. # [11:05] <roc> hi
  710. # [11:06] <roc> Unfocused: you mean, there is an actual JS debugger UI going through reviews?
  711. # [11:06] <Unfocused> roc: yep!
  712. # [11:06] <jaws> roc: have you had a chance to look at the comment i posted on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710373 ?
  713. # [11:06] <roc> Unfocused: bug#?
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  715. # [11:08] <Unfocused> roc: bug 676586 and it's numerous dependents
  716. # [11:09] <protz> Unfocused: is there a preview release, or screenshots, or anything? that's be worth posting on planet imho
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  718. # [11:11] <Unfocused> no idea :)
  719. # [11:11] <Unfocused> i haven't been following it that closely
  720. # [11:11] <glazou> protz: +1
  721. # [11:11] <protz> that would be good PR for the mozilla community as a whole: not having decent tools when working on the platform is a pretty big pain point, and I'm happy that someone's working on it; I'm sure others would be happy too
  722. # [11:12] <protz> any idea who I should try to lurk into writing something with perty pictures on planet?
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  727. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> past, I guess
  728. # [11:20] <Unfocused> yea, him
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  733. # [11:21] <Ms2ger> Or clone http://hg.mozilla.org/users/dcamp_campd.org/remote-debug/ and push it to try
  734. # [11:25] <cers> trying to compile mozilla-central with make -f client.mk, I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468323 - any ideas what could cause that?
  735. # [11:27] <Ms2ger> Eh
  736. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> !summon khuey
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  738. # [11:33] <shng> hello
  739. # [11:33] <shng> I need to change the background color of a popup menu
  740. # [11:33] <shng> it it possible?
  741. # [11:33] <shng> plz help thx
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  763. # [12:10] <smontagu> if i look at any more you tube javascript, I will be seriously ill
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  766. # [12:13] <@khuey> heh
  767. # [12:14] <@khuey> gerv thinks we think before we name things
  768. # [12:14] <@khuey> that's amusing
  769. # [12:14] <gerv> We are calling BrowserID "Persona"/.
  770. # [12:14] <gerv> Because that's not a name we've used before,
  771. # [12:14] <gerv> so there's no possibility of confusion at all.
  772. # [12:14] <glob|away> haha
  773. # [12:14] <gerv> (This could be a false rumour, of course. I really hope so.)
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  780. # [12:19] <Ms2ger> gerv, must be a false rumour if anybody told you before the decision was made ;)
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  782. # [12:20] <Unfocused> it's not a false rumour.
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  788. # [12:27] <glob> that's ... interesting
  789. # [12:28] <Ms2ger> Sounds like something we would do
  790. # [12:29] <@khuey> indeed
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  792. # [12:31] <@smaug> looks like performance team has quite interesting place for their work week
  793. # [12:31] <Ms2ger> Oh?
  794. # [12:32] <@khuey> smaug: looks cooler than ours :-P
  795. # [12:32] <@smaug> indeed
  796. # [12:32] <Ms2ger> Ah, yes, taras mentioned it yesterday
  797. # [12:32] <Unfocused> https://autonome.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/firefox-performance-work-week-fosdem/
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  804. # [12:41] <kaie> what's the closest to bonsai that we have for hg ?
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  807. # [12:44] <firebot> I've never seen a 'doskey', sorry.
  808. # [12:44] <espindola> dolske: ping
  809. # [12:44] <@khuey> heh
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  816. # [12:57] <ejpbruel> does anyone else encounter internal compiler errors when building firefox with g++-4.4?
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  819. # [13:00] <espindola> ejpbruel: I don't think it is supported, but bsmedberg might do it for old debians...
  820. # [13:01] <espindola> if 4.4 is still supported, report a bug on gcc
  821. # [13:01] <ejpbruel> espindola: thats exactly what i was getting at :) we don't support debian stable because of this
  822. # [13:01] <espindola> or at least the distro you are using
  823. # [13:01] <espindola> ah
  824. # [13:01] <espindola> is gcc 4.4 supported upstream?
  825. # [13:02] <espindola> ejpbruel: is our build system trying to use c++11?
  826. # [13:02] <espindola> if so, try forcing that off
  827. # [13:02] <ejpbruel> espindola: good question! im not sure actually
  828. # [13:02] <Ms2ger> I'm pretty sure not
  829. # [13:02] <Ms2ger> Because we started to use C++11-only enum syntax, IIRC
  830. # [13:03] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: i see
  831. # [13:03] <ejpbruel> that sounds like a reasonable explanation
  832. # [13:03] <ejpbruel> how can i get g++-4.5 on my debian install without having to upgrade the entire damn thing to the unstable repo
  833. # [13:04] <Ms2ger> Use ubuntu ;)
  834. # [13:04] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: why do you think im using debian? :P
  835. # [13:04] <Ms2ger> To use software that was written in the nineties? :)
  836. # [13:04] <espindola> ejpbruel: you can bulid it...
  837. # [13:04] <cers> trying to compile mozilla-central with make -f client.mk, I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468323 - any ideas what could cause that?
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  839. # [13:05] <ejpbruel> espindola: actually, i couldnt :( but that might be my fault
  840. # [13:05] <ejpbruel> cers: did you do a pull lately?
  841. # [13:05] <cers> ejpbruel: about 12 hours ago
  842. # [13:05] <ejpbruel> cers: one of your makefile.in's is still referring to a dir thats no longer there
  843. # [13:06] <ejpbruel> cers: i recall having a similar problem a while ago
  844. # [13:06] <cers> ejpbruel: I've run a make distclean, and deleted my obj dirs, still same problem :-S
  845. # [13:06] <cers> ejpbruel: do you remember how you fixed it?
  846. # [13:07] <ejpbruel> cers: yeah, i did a clean clone :S but i think you should be able to fix it by changing a single line somewhere
  847. # [13:07] <ejpbruel> cers: edmorley would know
  848. # [13:08] <espindola> ejpbruel: http://people.mozilla.org/~raliiev/gcc/
  849. # [13:08] <espindola> you might be able to extract the .rpm
  850. # [13:08] <ejpbruel> espindola: looks promising, thanks!
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  852. # [13:08] <ejpbruel> bsmedberg: are you working on debian?
  853. # [13:08] <espindola> ejpbruel: there is also a script I am working to build gcc. It is is build/unix/build-toolchain
  854. # [13:09] <espindola> but it is incomplete at the moment
  855. # [13:09] <ejpbruel> espindola: too bad :(
  856. # [13:09] <cers> ejpbruel: clean clone it is then
  857. # [13:10] <ejpbruel> cers: sorry, i know there is a better solution than that, but i dont know what it is :(
  858. # [13:10] <cers> ejpbruel: no worries - it's a good excuse to get some breakfast ;-)
  859. # [13:10] <ejpbruel> cers: or swordfight!
  860. # [13:11] <cers> ejpbruel: indeed :-P
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  866. # [13:22] <protz> ejpbruel: you can add the testing repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
  867. # [13:22] <protz> ejpbruel: then sudo apt-get install -t testing gcc-4.7
  868. # [13:23] <protz> use --dry-run before, just to make sure it doesn't pull too many things with it
  869. # [13:23] <ejpbruel> protz: i tried adding the unstable repositories yesterday, but that lead to all kinds of conflicts (unmet dependencies when trying to install gcc)
  870. # [13:23] <ejpbruel> protz: then i read somewhere that you cant mix repos like that on debian, you have to upgrade your entire system to unstable
  871. # [13:23] <ejpbruel> protz: tried that too, btu then debian didnt boot anymore on my vmware box
  872. # [13:24] <protz> I wouldn't recommend unstable, testing is a pretty good compromise
  873. # [13:24] <protz> I've been running it for years, my system never broke, and the maintainance burden is very low
  874. # [13:24] <ejpbruel> protz: ill give that a shot then after my reinstall is complete :)
  875. # [13:24] <protz> didn't you make a snapshot before? I thought that's what virtualization if for ;-)
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  877. # [13:25] <ejpbruel> protz; what can i say, im an idiot
  878. # [13:25] <protz> ejpbruel: I don't think I wouldn't do the same mistake :)
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  881. # [13:26] <ejpbruel> khuey:: ive been experimenting with calling calling nsIAppShellService::UnregisterTopLevelWindow on a window after creating it via nsIWindowWatcher::openWindow, in order to make sure it doesnt show up in any window lists. however, if we do that, the window wont be automagically closed when firefox shuts down, so we need to do so manually. is there any existing event that i can hook into on nsIObserveService thats appropriate to
  882. # [13:26] <ejpbruel> protz: you live and learn ;)
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  884. # [13:27] <@khuey> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Observer_Notifications#Application_shutdown ?
  885. # [13:27] <gerv> Does anyone feel like rewriting https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_basics so it wouldn't scare anyone off from using Mercurial?
  886. # [13:28] <lduros> how many times does Firefox allows for redirect loops before it determines that it's 'not redirecting properly' and stops the request?
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  888. # [13:32] <ejpbruel> khuey: that one looks like it might work
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  891. # [13:37] <gerv> Can someone tell me: when we switched to hg, did we import CVS history?
  892. # [13:37] <@khuey> no
  893. # [13:38] <@khuey> nice, firefox just froze
  894. # [13:39] <protz> gerv: I don't think so, although ehsan uploaded a mirror on github with the entire history
  895. # [13:39] <protz> (the entire history, as git, that is)
  896. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> gerv, we didn't
  897. # [13:39] <gerv> If a (smaller than mozilla-central) project were to convert today, are we in a better position to bring history along?
  898. # [13:39] <gerv> (I am thinking of NSS.)
  899. # [13:42] <Ms2ger> Probably
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  902. # [13:44] * @khuey wonders why we have two implementations of nsIINIParserFactory
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  904. # [13:44] <Ms2ger> Why not? :)
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  909. # [13:47] <gcp> what's the actual buildconfig for android nightlies?
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  911. # [13:48] <gcp> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/abb8a4f02595/mozilla2/mobile/android/mobile-2.0/nightly/mozconfig
  912. # [13:48] <gcp> this? or am I looking in the wrong place?
  913. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> gcp, they should be in m-c now
  914. # [13:51] <gcp> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/bfeeb813aef2/browser/config/mozconfigs and http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/bfeeb813aef2/mobile/android/config/mozconfigs/android/nightly
  915. # [13:52] <gcp> (in case anyone else wonders)
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  917. # [13:54] <ted> heh, are we really renaming Personas so we can name BrowserID "Persona"?
  918. # [13:54] <ted> that seems like a terrible idea
  919. # [13:55] <ted> gerv: i think the reason we didn't convert CVS history was more due to repo size and not technical concerns
  920. # [13:55] <gerv> OK.
  921. # [13:55] <gerv> ted: it seems so.
  922. # [13:55] <gerv> (about Persona)
  923. # [13:55] * ted doesn't understand taht
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  925. # [13:55] <gerv> Make that two of us.
  926. # [13:56] <Ms2ger> ted, "marketing"
  927. # [13:56] <ted> gerv: if you get NSS to switch, maybe you can work on wtc next with NSPR :)
  928. # [13:56] <@khuey> who said anything about renaming personas?
  929. # [13:56] <ted> i asked him about it and he told me he didn't have time to learn how to use hg
  930. # [13:56] <gerv> ted: I guess both would switch at the same time.
  931. # [13:56] <Ms2ger> "The existing Personas product will be renamed (name TBD). I suggest that this is off-topic for this list: marketing list is most appropriate. "
  932. # [13:56] <gerv> The problem is,
  933. # [13:56] <Ms2ger> On m.mozillians
  934. # [13:56] <gerv> without using hg, they can't get on our build and test infra
  935. # [13:56] <gerv> and as you may have noticed,
  936. # [13:56] <gerv> Snoracle's support for open source has waned of late.
  937. # [13:56] <ted> yup
  938. # [13:57] <@khuey> I see
  939. # [13:57] <gerv> So there's a rock and a hard place.
  940. # [13:57] <gerv> I'm working on looking at what it would take for them to switch.
  941. # [13:57] <gerv> One great thing would be if https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_basics
  942. # [13:57] <gerv> was less "wow, Mercurial will eat your data - deal with it".
  943. # [13:57] <gerv> Anyone feel like rewriting it in a less aggressive way?
  944. # [13:57] <ted> heh
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  946. # [13:58] <bkero> "mercurial eats babies"
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  948. # [13:58] <bkero> "We're trying to make it suck less -- honest"
  949. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> bkero, you are mistaken; that's git
  950. # [13:58] <bkero> Ms2ger: That's what I meant. http://git.allizom.org ;)
  951. # [13:59] <KaiRo> wow, renaming Personas and immediately naming something else similarly will cause a whole heck of confusion
  952. # [13:59] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, sure, but marketing!
  953. # [13:59] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: yes, ikt will be BAAAAD marketing
  954. # [14:00] <KaiRo> but then, that the problem of that team
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  957. # [14:00] * KaiRo feels like back when when everyone was calling Netscape Marketing bad names
  958. # [14:00] <KaiRo> well, not really, but it has its connotations
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  961. # [14:01] <cers> would seem like a natural choice to just call it an "Identity", instead of Persona
  962. # [14:01] <KaiRo> I'd feel way better with that
  963. # [14:02] <KaiRo> I'm happy with renaming Personas if we put a new emphasis on it, as any "Persona" stuff always is bad for international things - there is no word like "persona" in other countries that means what this word means in the US
  964. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> khuey, how do you get a .cpp with its macros expanded again?
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  966. # [14:05] <@khuey> Ms2ger: make foo.i?
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  968. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> Ta
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  973. # [14:15] <ted> argh
  974. # [14:15] <ted> inner/outer windows
  975. # [14:15] <@khuey> mmm windows
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  978. # [14:16] <ted> inner/outer windows always come exactly in pairs, right?
  979. # [14:16] <ted> i guess i can just forward this to the inner
  980. # [14:16] <Ms2ger> Nah
  981. # [14:17] <@khuey> not really
  982. # [14:17] <ted> well
  983. # [14:17] <@khuey> but maybe close enough for your purposes
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  985. # [14:17] <ted> i mean for a given outer window, at any given moment in time there's only one matching inner window
  986. # [14:17] <Ms2ger> Maybe
  987. # [14:17] <@khuey> there's only one matching inner window in which script can execute
  988. # [14:17] <ted> okay
  989. # [14:17] <ted> that wfm
  990. # [14:17] <@khuey> there may be lots of inner windows corresponding to that outer alive though
  991. # [14:18] <ted> in bfcache or whatever
  992. # [14:18] <@khuey> this is how bfcache works, for instance
  993. # [14:18] <@khuey> also, leaks
  994. # [14:18] <ted> heh
  995. # [14:18] <ted> okay
  996. # [14:18] <ted> that's actually informative
  997. # [14:18] <ted> and i might need to handle that case
  998. # [14:19] <ted> right now in my gamepad patch i have gamepad objects (they'll eventually live in navigator.gamepads[])
  999. # [14:19] <ted> and we update the state of each gamepad that a window can see
  1000. # [14:19] <ted> but not if that window is background
  1001. # [14:19] <ted> so when a window goes background->foreground we need to sync the state
  1002. # [14:19] <ted> i hooked into ::SetIsBackground, but that gets called on the outer
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  1005. # [14:20] <ted> and all my gamepad state is on the inner
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  1009. # [14:21] <@khuey> you should just be able to forward to the outer's current inner
  1010. # [14:21] <@khuey> and not worry about it
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  1014. # [14:22] <ted> okay, that sounds good
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  1018. # [14:26] <@khuey> ted: btw, do you know why we have two ini parser impls?
  1019. # [14:27] <Ms2ger> Because that's how we roll
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  1022. # [14:28] <Ms2ger> /usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: /content/canvas/src/ImageData.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined hidden symbol `vtable for mozilla::dom::ImageData::cycleCollection' can not be used when making a shared object
  1023. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> /content/canvas/src/ImageData.o: In function `cycleCollection':
  1024. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> /content/canvas/src/ImageData.h:43: undefined reference to `vtable for mozilla::dom::ImageData::cycleCollection'
  1025. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, what'd I miss?
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  1028. # [14:33] <Ms2ger> Or smaug...
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  1031. # [14:36] <@khuey> Ms2ger: did you use the CC macros to implement a participant?
  1032. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> .. Maybe?
  1033. # [14:36] <@khuey> and declare one?
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  1036. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> I've got
  1037. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_DECL_CYCLE_COLLECTING_ISUPPORTS
  1038. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_DECL_NSIDOMIMAGEDATA
  1039. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_DECL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_SCRIPT_HOLDER_CLASS(ImageData)
  1040. # [14:36] <@khuey> ok
  1041. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> And
  1042. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_CLASS(ImageData)
  1043. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_BEGIN(ImageData)
  1044. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_JS_CALLBACK(&tmp->mData, "mData")
  1045. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRACE_END
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  1048. # [14:37] <@khuey> ha
  1049. # [14:37] <IanN> heh
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  1052. # [14:38] <Ms2ger> So, what do I miss?
  1053. # [14:38] <@khuey> do you have macros for traverse and unlink too?
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  1055. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> No
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  1057. # [14:40] <@khuey> you'll need those
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  1059. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> Want to paste them? :)
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  1064. # [14:43] <@khuey> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRAVERSE_BEGIN(ImageData)
  1065. # [14:43] <@khuey> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRAVERSE_SCRIPT_OBJECTS
  1066. # [14:43] <@khuey> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_TRAVERSE_END
  1067. # [14:43] <@khuey> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_UNLINK_BEGIN(ImageData)
  1068. # [14:43] <@khuey> tmp->WhateverYourJSObjectIs = nsnull;
  1069. # [14:43] <@khuey> NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION_UNLINK_END
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  1076. # [14:48] <Ms2ger> Seems to compile, does it link?
  1077. # [14:49] <@khuey> you tell me
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  1083. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> Doesn't
  1084. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> libxul.so: hidden symbol `mozilla::dom::ImageData::Release()' isn't defined
  1085. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> khuey? :)
  1086. # [14:59] <@khuey> did you define Release?
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  1089. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> I had IMPL_RELEASE or whatever, but it complained it couldn't ++ my CC-refcount
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  1091. # [15:00] <@khuey> yeah
  1092. # [15:00] <@khuey> you need the cycle collecting versions of AddRef/Release
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  1095. # [15:01] <@smaug> can I do something like friend void foo(); in .h where void foo() is a static method in a .cpp
  1096. # [15:01] <Ms2ger> Tell me about them
  1097. # [15:01] <Ms2ger> smaug, dunno, try it? :)
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  1099. # [15:02] <@khuey> yes
  1100. # [15:02] <@khuey> Ms2ger: NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTING_[ADDREF|RELEASE]
  1101. # [15:03] <@smaug> clang doesn't seem to like static
  1102. # [15:03] <@khuey> oh
  1103. # [15:03] <@khuey> a static method
  1104. # [15:03] <@khuey> that might be problematic
  1105. # [15:03] <@khuey> a regular plain C++ method will work fine though
  1106. # [15:05] <cers> when writing a new test, do I need to do anything but drop it into the relevant test dir? running tests in the dir doesn't seem to actually run the new one...
  1107. # [15:06] <@khuey> you probably need to add it to the makefile
  1108. # [15:06] <cers> khuey: Makefile.in in the same dir?
  1109. # [15:06] <@khuey> yes
  1110. # [15:07] <Ms2ger> cers, mochitest?
  1111. # [15:08] <cers> sigh, nm - I think I figured out my mistake - I had a typo in the makefile >_<
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  1116. # [15:10] <jwatt> hmm, I'd like to get a list of bugs that have been touched by a given individual in any way
  1117. # [15:11] <jwatt> do I need to create a massive table query, or is there a better way?
  1118. # [15:11] <glob> jwatt, reports (in the header) --> user changes
  1119. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> khuey, looks like it linked!
  1120. # [15:12] <jwatt> glob: ah, thanks!
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  1124. # [15:15] <past> protz: the debugger is coming to m-c very soon (albeit disabled by default) and I plan on having an updated screencast for the weekly devtools call on Thursday
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  1128. # [15:16] <@khuey> Ms2ger: woo
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  1130. # [15:17] <@khuey> lol
  1131. # [15:18] <@khuey> who is "Bronislav Klucka"?
  1132. # [15:18] <protz> past: awesome!
  1133. # [15:18] <jwatt> glob: although I really just want a bug list (titles, and dupes removed), not a list of all the activity
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  1137. # [15:20] <glob> jwatt, ah. um.
  1138. # [15:20] <jwatt> heh
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  1173. # [15:56] <MarcoZ> Hi there! Who is maintaining/doing the merging etc. on m-c today? I have two patches I'd like to have backed out before tomorrow's uplift.
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  1175. # [16:00] <MarcoZ> mak: Ping?
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  1202. # [16:21] <Pike> oh, there's why I can't retrigger builds, the cert expired
  1203. # [16:21] <philor> yeah, isn't that an awful error message?
  1204. # [16:21] <ted> khuey: no idea
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  1208. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
  1209. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> nsCOMPtr<> foo(bar) instead of foo = bar?
  1210. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> Because the former is an abomination in the eyes of the lord
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  1212. # [16:26] <@khuey> lol
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  1231. # [16:38] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ping
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  1240. # [16:42] <mak> MarcoZ: hi
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  1243. # [16:45] <MarcoZ> mak: Are you the right person today to talk about backouts from m-c?
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  1247. # [16:45] <mak> MarcoZ: it depends on the question... I may do backouts when needed
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  1250. # [16:47] <MarcoZ> mak: Basically davidb and I decided that bug 717505 and bug 591363 need to be backed out before the uplift to Aurora tomorrow. I tried to do it, but am getting merge conflicts when trying to backout bug 591363, and since that's not an easy patch and the visual merge tool gives me some challenges, I was hoping to be able to turn to you or someone else willing for help with this.
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  1252. # [16:47] <jwatt> hmm, changing a radio button's 'checked' property doesn't fire its 'onchange' listener?
  1253. # [16:47] <mak> MarcoZ: are those bugs connected or they can be backed our separately at different times?
  1254. # [16:48] <Ms2ger> jwatt, changing from script?
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  1256. # [16:48] <philor> "the visual merge tool," nice :)
  1257. # [16:48] <jwatt> Ms2ger: yeah
  1258. # [16:48] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that typically wouldn't happen
  1259. # [16:48] <jwatt> sucks
  1260. # [16:48] <MarcoZ> philor: Yeah none of these merge tools are easy to use for a blind person, since they often use colors only to denote what's being added, removed and such.
  1261. # [16:49] <MarcoZ> mak: Unfortunately not. Basically bug 717505 fixes a crash that bug 591363 introduced.
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  1264. # [16:49] <jwatt> Ms2ger: that's really stupid, who wrote that part of the spec?
  1265. # [16:49] <MarcoZ> mak: So I first backed out bug 717505, which went without problems, and then on top of that wanted to back out bug 591363, and the merger tells me I have 9 merge conflicts within one of the files. The other files of that patch merge cleanly.
  1266. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> jwatt, jst? Dunno
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  1269. # [16:50] <jwatt> *g*
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  1271. # [16:51] <@bsmedberg> khuey: pong
  1272. # [16:52] <@khuey> bsmedberg: I want to fix 494946
  1273. # [16:52] <mak> MarcoZ: I see. so, the fact is I'm not on my usual setup (I'm in bruxelles for a work week) and a conflicting merge is something to handle with care. The ideal thing would be if the person who made the patch could look into the conflicts or make a backout patch.
  1274. # [16:52] <@khuey> bsmedberg: the interesting question there is how js components should indicate that they are services
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  1278. # [16:53] <@khuey> bsmedberg: right now I have a patch that accepts "service" instead of "component" in manifests, but idk if you'll like that approach
  1279. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> khuey: "service" as a modifier on the CID
  1280. # [16:53] <mak> MarcoZ: I may look and see how broken that is, no promises from here though :(
  1281. # [16:53] <@khuey> bsmedberg: aha
  1282. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> e.g.
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  1285. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> So what do I want if I am totally confused by the new default fedora desktop and I want to go back to something like the old one?
  1286. # [16:54] <MarcoZ> mak: Ah sorry, didn't know that you weren't in full working condition! Don't know if davidb can look into this himself, he wrote the original patches.
  1287. # [16:54] <MarcoZ> mak: If all fails, I'll back this out by hand.
  1288. # [16:54] <davidb> yeah i Can
  1289. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> multiple desktop support and a usable taskbar being the most important thing to me
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  1291. # [16:55] <davidb> MarcoZ, mak I usually do merge conflicts by hand. Not sure there is any other option.
  1292. # [16:55] <mak> khuey: are you looking into that? I have a patch providing a really simple new XPCOMUtils util to make a singleton factory to be passed as _xpcom_factory
  1293. # [16:56] <mak> davidb: I think it's the only way unless you directly write a backout patch
  1294. # [16:56] <mak> and get review on it
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  1296. # [16:56] <mak> in case some later change had some deeper dependencies on that code
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  1298. # [16:56] <davidb> right
  1299. # [16:57] <@khuey> mak: yes, I've got a patch that's enough to start the browser and browse around without hitting createInstance/getService mismatch
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  1301. # [16:57] <@khuey> lots of code that I need to exercise though
  1302. # [16:57] <mak> khuey: so, I may just finish this and ask you feedback, may e useful still, who knows
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  1304. # [16:57] <mak> your fix is more comprehensive but also lots of services don't pass the service modifier with cid
  1305. # [16:58] <@khuey> mak: can't hurt
  1306. # [16:58] <mak> ok cool, I just have to finish the test
  1307. # [16:58] <@khuey> but I really thing XPCOM should stop people from shooting themselves in the foot
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  1309. # [16:58] <@khuey> the problem is the code that expects to use createInstance and getService on the same thing :-(
  1310. # [16:58] <mak> well, provided they pass the modifier... they will still be able to shoot themselves
  1311. # [16:59] <davidb> (mak: I'll write the back out patch)
  1312. # [16:59] <mak> davidb: sounds gpood
  1313. # [16:59] <@khuey> mak: well my patch doesn't let you createInstance something you mark as a service
  1314. # [16:59] <MarcoZ> davidI'll review it.
  1315. # [16:59] <@khuey> and it doesn't let you getService something not marked as a service
  1316. # [16:59] <MarcoZ> davidb: ^
  1317. # [16:59] <@khuey> so there's no feet getting shot here
  1318. # [17:00] * davidb nods
  1319. # [17:00] <mak> khuey: yes, I meant you can forget ot mark as service and then createInstance, yet. but restricting the bad cases is fine!
  1320. # [17:00] <@bsmedberg> khuey: I would start by only doing the first thing
  1321. # [17:01] <@bsmedberg> and add the annotations in steps
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  1323. # [17:02] <MarcoZ> How do I undo a commit in hg? Basically I want to get rid of everything that's showing in outgoing.
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  1325. # [17:02] <@khuey> bsmedberg: well, I have a patch that does both
  1326. # [17:02] <@khuey> modulo some test failures
  1327. # [17:02] <@khuey> we can split it up however
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  1330. # [17:04] <@khuey> bsmedberg: the one thing that is problematic is registerFactory
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  1334. # [17:05] <@bsmedberg> khuey: enum IsAService { YES, NO, WTF }
  1335. # [17:06] <Ms2ger> Boolish?
  1336. # [17:06] <@khuey> bsmedberg: sure, just have to break the api
  1337. # [17:06] <@khuey> bsmedberg: also, there is a bunch of code that expects to use CI and GS on the same thing :-/
  1338. # [17:06] <@bsmedberg> a bunch?
  1339. # [17:06] <@bsmedberg> I know of a few cases, but I thought we fixed most of them
  1340. # [17:06] <@khuey> several tests
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  1342. # [17:07] <@khuey> and at least one thing in the product
  1343. # [17:07] <@khuey> which also uses imagelib off the main thread :-P
  1344. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> lovely
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  1346. # [17:08] <@khuey> yeah
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  1369. # [17:19] <@khuey> bsmedberg: so it's ok to change the signature of registerFactory?
  1370. # [17:19] <tbsaunde> MarcoZ: hg qimport -r tip && hg qpop should work
  1371. # [17:19] <@bsmedberg> khuey: I'm torn... it's likely to cause a fair bit of breakage
  1372. # [17:19] <tbsaunde> assuming you haven't pushed somewhere in which case afaik you are just screwed
  1373. # [17:19] <@bsmedberg> khuey: I need to circle back with Asa about the binary-components thread
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  1378. # [17:21] <@khuey> bsmedberg: yeah ... making these changes though is likely to break a lot of stuff
  1379. # [17:21] <@khuey> for addon implemented components
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  1381. # [17:23] <Kwan> heya I'm having trouble building on linux. I have yasm 1.1.0 but it's installed as yasm-1 rather than just yasm, and alias yasm=yasm-1 isn't enough to convince make that I have it. Any tips?
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  1383. # [17:25] <@bsmedberg> Kwan: export YASM=yasm-1
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  1392. # [17:28] <Kwan> bsmedberg: merci beaucoup :)
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  1410. # [17:45] <cers> are there any tools to make sense of / clean up the output when running tests? - there seems to be a whole lot info there that I don't quite know what to do with...
  1411. # [17:46] <peregrino> mhhh I don't get why sometimes I have to download the full build when updating nightly and sometimes just a mb or so
  1412. # [17:46] <peregrino> cers: don't tempt me to say "grep"
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  1416. # [17:47] <cers> peregrino: it has to do with how long ago you did it last - I don't think diffs are available more than a build or two, or so it seems, and then it downloads a full version
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  1418. # [17:48] <cers> peregrino: heh, I have a feeling I'd miss some relevant information then
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  1420. # [17:48] <peregrino> weird, as I always have it open
  1421. # [17:48] <mconnor> well
  1422. # [17:48] <mconnor> if you don't restart the app, you may run for a few days
  1423. # [17:48] <cers> peregrino: so do I, but I don't restart it all that often
  1424. # [17:48] <mconnor> and by then you've already downloaded an update
  1425. # [17:49] <mconnor> and we don't grab more updates if we've already got one
  1426. # [17:49] <peregrino> cers: I usually need *more* info, not less, so I don't know how to help you there.
  1427. # [17:49] <cers> (which is actually slightly anoying to me)
  1428. # [17:49] <peregrino> mhhhh, that makes a lot of sense mconnor
  1429. # [17:50] <cers> peregrino: I might need more info from a specific test, but I'd like to hide a lot of stuff from all the others, plus what seems to be just random debug info
  1430. # [17:50] <mconnor> I still wish we'd toss previous update and get a new one, but if I don't restart for a week that's a _lot_ of downloads
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  1432. # [17:50] <peregrino> cers: but restarting now with the tab groups and loading pages in demand besides the app tabs is like a breeze.
  1433. # [17:50] <cers> mconnor: true, but maybe if the user actively asks for updates at least
  1434. # [17:50] <mconnor> yeah, maybe
  1435. # [17:50] <mconnor> it's a corner case, though
  1436. # [17:50] <peregrino> cers: you can run just *one* test case
  1437. # [17:51] <cers> true
  1438. # [17:51] <cers> peregrino: how? - I only found how to run one folder of tests
  1439. # [17:51] <peregrino> nah, I'll get you some links
  1440. # [17:51] <peregrino> you can run only one test file
  1441. # [17:52] <cers> peregrino: that would certainly help
  1442. # [17:52] <peregrino> otherise is a pain in... to run... browser tests for example
  1443. # [17:53] <cers> right now I'm writing a test in browser/components/preferences - which has ~10 tests already - so there's quite a lot of info spewed out
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  1445. # [17:53] <peregrino> yeah
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  1450. # [17:58] <felipe> bz: you make a good point about a commit that causes a problem and a later commit that fixes it.. thanks for the explanation
  1451. # [17:58] <@bz> felipe: no problem
  1452. # [17:59] <@bz> felipe: I agree that we have a problem with people landing half-baked things
  1453. # [17:59] <@bz> felipe: and I won't even claim I've never done it!
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  1455. # [17:59] <mak> khuey: sent you request
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  1457. # [17:59] <@bz> felipe: I just think that whether to flatten or not should be decided on a case-by-case basis
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  1459. # [18:01] <@khuey> mak: looking
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  1461. # [18:02] <mak> khuey: my solution is less general, though may cover temporarily the need while you figure out compatibility issues
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  1463. # [18:02] <felipe> bz: yeah, totally
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  1477. # [18:09] <@khuey> mak: looks fine to me
  1478. # [18:09] <@khuey> mak: I kicked it over to bsmedberg for a real review
  1479. # [18:09] <mak> khuey: sounds good, XPCOMUtils was usually shawn's review field
  1480. # [18:09] <@khuey> ah
  1481. # [18:09] <mak> so I was not sure who to ask
  1482. # [18:09] <@khuey> I kinda assumed it was bsmedbergs ;-)
  1483. # [18:09] <mak> well it is probably more
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  1491. # [18:13] <marco> do we use pthread or something else for mutexes and atomic operations?
  1492. # [18:13] <@khuey> we use cross-platform APIs that map to pthreads on some platforms
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  1494. # [18:14] <marco> khuey, thank you, could you point me to the API to use?
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  1496. # [18:15] <gcp> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prthrd.html
  1497. # [18:15] <@khuey> marco: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/Mutex.h
  1498. # [18:15] <@khuey> is what we use in Gecko
  1499. # [18:15] <marco> thank you
  1500. # [18:16] * @khuey really wishes people would stop bitrotting his patches
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  1502. # [18:16] <Yoric> Just to be sure: I cannot use setTimeout from a js-implemented xpcom component, can I?
  1503. # [18:17] <Yoric> I need to use nsIEventTarget::dispatch(), isn't it?
  1504. # [18:17] <@khuey> Yoric: you cannot use setTimeout from a js-implemented xpcom component
  1505. # [18:17] <Yoric> Thanks.
  1506. # [18:17] <@khuey> what you need to use depends on exactly what you're trying to do
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  1508. # [18:18] <Yoric> I want to buffer and regroup writes to a file.
  1509. # [18:18] <@bsmedberg> hrm, I told a new Firefox to sync and now it's hanging
  1510. # [18:19] <Yoric> So I want to delay a chunk of work, and if additional work is added later, cancel the first chunk and replace it with a delayed combined work.
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  1512. # [18:20] <@khuey> why are we writing to a file on the main thread to begin with?
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  1515. # [18:21] <jtcranmer> khuey: you know it's impossible to use a JS component from anything other than the main thread, right?
  1516. # [18:22] <@khuey> jtcranmer: right, which is why I asked that question
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  1518. # [18:22] <Yoric> khuey: because I am rewriting this by part.
  1519. # [18:23] <Yoric> gavin wants me to concentrate on buffering the outputs before starting to work on getting this out of the main thread.
  1520. # [18:23] <Yoric> So, here I am.
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  1522. # [18:24] <gavin> Yoric: yes, use nsItimer
  1523. # [18:24] <gavin> Yoric: the file already does that for other changes, IIRC
  1524. # [18:24] <gavin> just copy that code
  1525. # [18:24] * @khuey wanted to argue with gavin about something
  1526. # [18:24] <Yoric> Well, that's what I've been doing in the mean time.
  1527. # [18:24] <@khuey> but can't remember what it was
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  1529. # [18:25] <gavin> Yoric: (_serializeTimer)
  1530. # [18:26] <Yoric> Yeah, found it, thanks.
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  1536. # [18:29] <davidb> tn: will IsVisibleConsideringAncestors continue to work the same after you get rid of views?
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  1550. # [18:36] <jdm> felipe: it looks to me like it might be possible to use nsIEffectiveTLDService::getPublicSuffix to validate a TLD
  1551. # [18:36] <gavin> how?
  1552. # [18:37] <gavin> that will return .foo in bar.foo, AFAIK
  1553. # [18:37] <jdm> gavin: it looks like it checks against the list of TLDs
  1554. # [18:37] <jdm> gavin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/nsEffectiveTLDService.cpp#214
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  1556. # [18:38] <gavin> tld.getPublicSuffixFromHost("foo.bar")
  1557. # [18:38] <gavin> bar
  1558. # [18:38] <jdm> heh
  1559. # [18:38] <jdm> er
  1560. # [18:38] <jdm> huh
  1561. # [18:38] <Mossop> Are we still wasting time on that context menu bug?
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  1566. # [18:39] <gavin> jdm: the code doesn't bail out if !entry
  1567. # [18:39] <jdm> yeah, that's true
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  1579. # [18:44] <NeilAway> mconnor: well, hopefully with the new update in new folder stuff, you can just update the existing updated build, so that when you restart you'll be on the latest nightly
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  1593. # [18:54] <aja> what's different in esr builds? different update channel?
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  1597. # [18:55] <glandium> abort: index data/browser/base/content/newtab/page.js.i unknown format 12078!
  1598. # [18:55] <Callek> aja: "they are not for regular users"
  1599. # [18:55] <glandium> that's what i get when pulling from m-c. :(
  1600. # [18:55] <Callek> aja: in short anyway, they support matrix, plan, etc. are completely different
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  1607. # [18:58] <Callek> glandium: try hg recover then pulling again
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  1610. # [18:58] <glandium> Callek: "no interrupted transaction available", and nothing changed
  1611. # [18:58] <Callek> glandium: if that fails try to strip a day or two worth of csets, then pull again, if THAT fails, usually easiest to start again (fresh clone, or start with a fresh bundle, etc.)
  1612. # [18:58] <glandium> sigh
  1613. # [18:59] <Callek> yea, agree
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  1619. # [19:00] <glandium> Callek: starting over means having to deal with patch queues and all :(
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  1622. # [19:01] <glandium> (and apparently, this comes from a file system corruption, yay)
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  1625. # [19:01] <Callek> glandium: you can save your MQ
  1626. # [19:02] <Callek> glandium: of course it may not necessarily be file system corruption, since hg can get confused at times in my experience, -- it sucks but can happen :/
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  1628. # [19:02] <Callek> not sure what specifically causes it, but it does happen
  1629. # [19:02] <glandium> Callek: it is, in my case.
  1630. # [19:02] <Callek> glandium: oooooo in your case it is, ouch -- ok then good luck
  1631. # [19:03] <Callek> glandium: suggestion (as if you didn't already know): deal with your file system first.
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  1668. # [19:10] <glandium> Callek: is there an hg fsck to check what is fucked in a given store?
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  1670. # [19:10] * timeless sighs
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  1673. # [19:10] <Callek> glandium: not that *I* know of, there may be, just don't know it
  1674. # [19:10] <timeless> bz: i don't suppose there are any easy ways to force firefox to believe that the screen is narrower (or wider) than it really is?
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  1679. # [19:13] <Standard8> glob: ping
  1680. # [19:13] <glob> Standard8, pong
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  1683. # [19:14] <Standard8> glob: at release points, are you just hiding the old tracking-thunderbird* flags now?
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  1685. # [19:15] <glob> Standard8, yes, see https://wiki.mozilla.org/BMO/new-version
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  1687. # [19:15] <Standard8> glob: ah, I didn't realise that bug had been fixed
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  1689. # [19:15] <glob> Standard8, upstream it hasn't; so i took a shortcut
  1690. # [19:15] <Standard8> heh
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  1692. # [19:16] <Standard8> glob: do you want a bug for hiding blocking-thunderbird5.0 & status-thunderbird5.0?
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  1694. # [19:16] <glob> Standard8, you can just add a comment to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722224 if you like
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  1696. # [19:18] <Standard8> glob: will do, thanks
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  1699. # [19:19] <askalski> hi everyone, I created a script
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  1701. # [19:19] <askalski> that you may find useful in comparing mochitest results
  1702. # [19:19] <askalski> want link?
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  1706. # [19:20] <jdm> yep!
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  1708. # [19:21] <askalski> https://github.com/askalski/moz-related
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  1714. # [19:21] <askalski> it's difftest, I was developed while working for a11y team and thus tested with mochitest-a11y, but you can help me test it with other
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  1719. # [19:24] <cers> is there an easy way of getting a count of all items in a tree/treeview? rowCount only counts visible rows...
  1720. # [19:24] <gavin> not exposed through nsITreeView
  1721. # [19:24] <gavin> generally that's just a front for an underlying datastore
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  1723. # [19:25] <cers> gavin: that's what I was afraid of
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  1737. # [19:30] <BenB> I'm upgrading a big project from Firefox 3 to Firefox 7. the browser window is OK when opened normally from the commandline, but empty when opened from windowwatcher.openWindow("navigator.xul", features); any ideas what could be the reason? any API or security changes that are relevant?
  1738. # [19:30] <BenB> s/3/3.0/
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  1741. # [19:31] <timeless> navigator.xul is dead
  1742. # [19:31] <timeless> you want chrome://browser/content/
  1743. # [19:32] <BenB> timeless: in seamonkey?
  1744. # [19:32] <timeless> BenB: you said "firefox 3 to firefox 7" :)
  1745. # [19:33] <jmaher> jlebar: ping
  1746. # [19:33] <jlebar> jmaher, hey
  1747. # [19:33] <jmaher> jlebar: I have some data points for you with the new OSX based rss collection
  1748. # [19:33] <jlebar> jmaher, awesoime
  1749. # [19:33] <jmaher> jlebar: http://people.mozilla.org/~jmaher/sxs/sxs.html; click on the links for tp5_rss and it will take you to the graph server
  1750. # [19:33] <jlebar> I'm so excited, I can't type right!
  1751. # [19:34] <jmaher> jlebar: lol; the change ended up landing on Friday
  1752. # [19:34] <jmaher> but those graphs are linked to start at Saturday
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  1756. # [19:35] <jlebar> jmaher, So I'm clicking the bottommost links which say 11, 10, 11.
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  1758. # [19:35] <jlebar> jmaher, And in each graph, there's the normal TP5 RSS and TP5 RSS with your change?:
  1759. # [19:36] <jmaher> jlebar: yes
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  1761. # [19:36] <jmaher> the red is main_rss and the green is the old method for rss
  1762. # [19:36] <@bsmedberg> mwu: ping
  1763. # [19:36] <jlebar> jmaher, The colors are non-deterministic, I think, but Tp5r is the new one, right?
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  1766. # [19:37] <jmaher> jlebar: yes
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  1769. # [19:38] <jlebar> jmaher, This looks great. The OSX 10.5 lines track each other closely, which means you're not introducing noise.
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  1771. # [19:38] <jlebar> jmaher, And obviously we're about 45mb lower with the change.
  1772. # [19:38] <jmaher> jlebar: yes, and it appears to be a bit smoother, less fluctuation
  1773. # [19:38] <jlebar> jmaher, indeed!
  1774. # [19:39] <jlebar> jmaher, The only thing which concerns me a bit is: On 10.5, tp5r is always below tp5.
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  1776. # [19:39] <jlebar> jmaher, It's not a big difference, so it probably doesn't matter.
  1777. # [19:39] <jlebar> But I would have expected some randomness.
  1778. # [19:39] <jmaher> jlebar: they are very similar
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  1781. # [19:39] <jmaher> on 10.5.8 that is
  1782. # [19:40] <mwu> bsmedberg: pong
  1783. # [19:40] <@bsmedberg> mwu: are you going to take bug 712789?
  1784. # [19:40] <jlebar> jmaher, They are similar. But I'm surprised the two lines are *distinguishable* in any way.
  1785. # [19:40] <jlebar> I don't think you should block on that, though.
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  1790. # [19:42] <jmaher> jlebar: so this will be running going forward; do you want to do the same change for windows and linux?
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  1794. # [19:43] <jlebar> jmaher, So I think the 10.6 and 10.7 change is clearly desirable, and can replace our current (basically meaningless) TP5 RSS measurement.
  1795. # [19:43] <@smaug> at what time is the Aurora uplift usually?
  1796. # [19:43] <mwu> bsmedberg: I'll take a closer look today
  1797. # [19:43] <jlebar> jmaher, But I'd like a little more data on the 10.5 case before we turn it on for Windows and Linux.
  1798. # [19:43] <jlebar> jmaher, There's no rush, is there?
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  1800. # [19:43] <jmaher> jlebar: ok; we can revisit it later this week
  1801. # [19:43] <jmaher> jlebar: no rush
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  1803. # [19:44] <jlebar> jmaher, Sounds great.
  1804. # [19:44] * jmaher just doesn't want to forget about it
  1805. # [19:44] <jlebar> jmaher, I'll put it in my calendar, so together maybe one of us will remember. :)
  1806. # [19:44] <jmaher> jlebar++
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  1810. # [19:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e61dcd6f9bd7 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 722019. (Av2) Remove some useless/redundant listbox rules, in gnomestripe and winstripe. r=neil.
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  1815. # [19:46] <protz> bjacob: you might want to read this http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/
  1816. # [19:46] <protz> bjacob: just saw you were mentioned in the latest edit, heh
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  1820. # [19:48] <bjacob> protz: i commented on his last 2 entries. didn't see the edit.
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  1829. # [19:52] <protz> bjacob: yeah, thanks for the PR handling ;-)
  1830. # [19:52] <@khuey> bsmedberg: did you leave a 'not' out of that email somewhere?
  1831. # [19:52] <@bsmedberg> khuey: which email?
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  1836. # [19:53] <@khuey> bsmedberg: the one about configure on windows
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  1840. # [19:55] <@khuey> bsmedberg: "I think that the complexity and confusion cost of removing configure would be worth the time it would take to replicate only the bits of it that we actually use."
  1841. # [19:55] <@khuey> bsmedberg: would not be worth?
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  1843. # [19:55] <@bsmedberg> oh yes, quite
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  1853. # [19:59] <gavin> freelance writer
  1854. # [19:59] <catlee> I think he got a job
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  1861. # [20:02] <bliz> hi, does Firefox use zlib? http://www.zlib.net/ says there's a new zlib 1.2.6 out, released on 29th of Jan
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  1866. # [20:04] <gavin> bz: have a second to discuss https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719994#c12 ?
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  1874. # [20:07] <dholbert> bliz, yes, it does. (looks like we're currently on 1.2.5, last updated in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573137 )
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  1888. # [20:11] <lduros> hi. I'm working on an addon that uses tracinglistener to run some code on the responses of text/html, in particular it makes xhr requests on external js files. I have an issue with a page that contains a js link that redirects to the very same page, and it loops infinitely. I have a hard time being able to chain the redirect since the requests are 'independent' for Firefox it seems (redirectLimit is always at 19). My question is,
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  1890. # [20:12] <dholbert> bliz, I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722391 on upgrading. Thanks for the heads up
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  1892. # [20:13] <bliz> thanks :)
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  1895. # [20:19] <@smaug> cpearce: ping
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  1910. # [20:25] <lduros> the only relationship I've found so far between the original request and the redirect one is request.originalURI --maybe that's all there is. :-)
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  1938. # [20:41] <dvander> how can i disable the "Your Outstanding Requests" e-mail, I don't see a bugzilla pref for it
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  1940. # [20:41] <bliz> also, libvpx 1.0.0 is out, http://blog.webmproject.org/2012/01/vp8-codec-sdk-duclair-released.html "Decoder speed on x86 processors improved 10.5%." is Firefox gonna upgrade to the latest libvpx?
  1941. # [20:41] <glob> dvander, it won't email you if you action the requests
  1942. # [20:41] * blizzard looks at bliz
  1943. # [20:41] <blizzard> (note: not me)
  1944. # [20:41] <dvander> that wasn't really the question
  1945. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> glob, dammit, beat me to it :)
  1946. # [20:42] <@khuey> dvander: set up a filter in your mail client, send it to trash
  1947. # [20:42] <dvander> khuey, okay, thanks
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  1961. # [20:48] <cers> is there an easy way to select an item in a xul tree/treeview?
  1962. # [20:49] <Mossop> You're not allowed to use the words tree and easy in the same sentence
  1963. # [20:50] <cers> :-S
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  1968. # [20:51] <@bsmedberg> jhford: if I needed the aurora 11.0a2 with buildid 20120129042007, how would I find it?
  1969. # [20:51] <sheppy> We call that "treasy."
  1970. # [20:51] <jtcranmer> easy is relative
  1971. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument> doc = do_QueryReferent(mDocWeak);
  1972. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMDocument> domDoc = do_QueryInterface(doc);
  1973. # [20:51] <@bsmedberg> does that buildID always == http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012-01-29-04-20-07-mozilla-aurora/
  1974. # [20:52] <@bsmedberg> or is there potential offset in the FTP location and the buildid?
  1975. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> There's no reason to do that when doc isn't used after that, right?
  1976. # [20:52] <jhford> bsmedberg: i am not sure if that directory is based on buildid or on upload time
  1977. # [20:52] <Mook_as> cers: you poke the nsITreeSelection and then tell the tree box object about it, don't you?
  1978. # [20:52] <jtcranmer> so easily selecting a row in a tree is as easy as programming a JS interpreter in brainfuck
  1979. # [20:52] <Mook_as> (unless you want "go click on the row" :p )
  1980. # [20:52] <@khuey> Mook_as++
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  1982. # [20:52] <jhford> coop: do you know if the directory in /nightly/ on ftp is based on buildid?
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  1985. # [20:53] <jhford> (wrong znc user)
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  1987. # [20:53] <cers> Mook_as: I don't think requiring human intervention will go over well with whoever has to approve my test :-P
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  1989. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> cers, synthetic mouse events? :)
  1990. # [20:54] <coop> jhford-buildduty: the 2012########-revision one is under tinderbox-builds/
  1991. # [20:55] <cers> Ms2ger: I've considered that, but I also need to select two non-adjacent items, which I think will become difficult
  1992. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Lovely
  1993. # [20:55] <jhford-buildduty> coop: what about nightlies, they have dated dirs as well, like http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012-01-29-04-20-07-mozilla-aurora/
  1994. # [20:56] <coop> won't the .txt file in the dir tell you?
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  1996. # [20:57] <Mook_as> Ms2ger: eew, no no no. _maybe_ if it involves building a robot arm.
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  2000. # [20:58] <coop> i.e. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2012-01-29-04-20-07-mozilla-aurora/firefox-11.0a2.en-US.linux-i686.txt
  2001. # [20:58] <coop> (so yes)
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  2003. # [20:59] <coop> buildID is the same
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  2005. # [20:59] <@bsmedberg> coop: yes, but I didn't want my script to have to deref the .txt file if I can just assume the buildids match
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  2021. # [21:06] <tn> davidb, that is the idea, yes
  2022. # [21:07] <davidb> ok
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  2031. # [21:13] <@ehsan> mjessome: should I use autoland again?
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  2036. # [21:16] <@smaug> ehsan: what is autoland?
  2037. # [21:16] <@smaug> I saw that in some hg message
  2038. # [21:16] <lsblakk|afk> smaug: it's still being tested, but it's an autolanding to try system
  2039. # [21:16] * zpao|detached is now known as zpao
  2040. # [21:16] <@ehsan> what lsblakk|afk said!
  2041. # [21:16] <@ehsan> lsblakk|afk: so, should I add more stuff to the queue?
  2042. # [21:16] <@smaug> how does one use it?
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  2044. # [21:17] <lsblakk|afk> ehsan: wait for mjessome's reply as i am off sick today and not sure the staus atm
  2045. # [21:17] <lsblakk|afk> smaug: one does not use it until we announce it is ready for widespread use
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  2048. # [21:17] <@smaug> k
  2049. # [21:17] <lsblakk|afk> smaug: ehsan is our guinea pig
  2050. # [21:17] <@ehsan> smaug: oh sure, get better soon :)
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  2052. # [21:18] <@ehsan> masayuki: ping
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  2057. # [21:19] <mjessome> ehsan: yeah, be my guest! I periodically check what's been flagged, etc, to make sure everything's going smoothly so push away :D
  2058. # [21:19] <@smaug> sometimes I wonder how I managed to get anything done in my previous job without all the awesome tools, like tbpl, mxr, and tryserver
  2059. # [21:20] <@ehsan> mjessome: if I want something definitely in today, is it a good idea to use autoland?
  2060. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> Maybe that's why you didn't finish your master's thesis
  2061. # [21:20] * @smaug kicks Ms2ger
  2062. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> smaug, <3
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  2064. # [21:21] <timeless> :)
  2065. # [21:21] <timeless> smaug: hey, how much do you know about layout? :)
  2066. # [21:21] <@smaug> I'm still writing it, just "a bit" slowly
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  2068. # [21:21] <@smaug> timeless: not much
  2069. # [21:21] <rniwa> smaug, ehsan: hi guys. does mozilla have any plans to fix this bug? https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76607
  2070. # [21:21] <@smaug> timeless: only about security bugs in layout :)
  2071. # [21:21] * timeless is trying poison gecko enough so that it believes its screen working area is 480px
  2072. # [21:21] <mjessome> ehsan: pushes that went through at 9:48 this morning finished their try runs with results back at 2:45. As far as time goes, it's not really longer than a regular try push.
  2073. # [21:21] <@ehsan> BenWa: why do we want to have "jank" enabled for all builds?
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  2075. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> smaug, I won't ask when you last touched the file ;)
  2076. # [21:22] <BenWa> ehsan: define enable?
  2077. # [21:22] <@smaug> rniwa: not sure
  2078. # [21:22] <BenWa> You need jeff's extension for it
  2079. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> rniwa, to fix the bug in WebKit? ;)
  2080. # [21:22] <@ehsan> BenWa: as in mozilla_sampler_get_features()
  2081. # [21:22] <rniwa> Ms2ger: well, we have to decide whether we should "fix" it or not
  2082. # [21:22] <BenWa> We can report the feature to others saying it can be used, yes
  2083. # [21:22] <@ehsan> rniwa: looking
  2084. # [21:22] <rniwa> Ms2ger: but we're reluctant to do so if mozilla isn't going
  2085. # [21:22] <BenWa> using it is optional
  2086. # [21:23] <@smaug> Ms2ger: my thesis... well, it was perhaps... last year
  2087. # [21:23] <@ehsan> BenWa: yeah, but do we want people to use it in non-profiling builds?
  2088. # [21:23] <rniwa> Ms2ger: there isn't much "compat issues" if two major browsers aren't doing it
  2089. # [21:23] <BenWa> ehsan: It works just fine in a non profiling build, it uses the pseudo stacks
  2090. # [21:23] <Ms2ger> What does DOM4 say? :)
  2091. # [21:23] <dholbert> ehsan, wha... what is this [autoland] magic?
  2092. # [21:23] <@smaug> rniwa: I'd need to try if changing that would break FF chrome badly
  2093. # [21:24] <@smaug> rniwa: is there a gecko bug about it ?
  2094. # [21:24] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok
  2095. # [21:24] <@ehsan> dholbert: a feature in testing, by me (and only me! :P)
  2096. # [21:24] <dholbert> ehsan, nice :)
  2097. # [21:24] <lsblakk|afk> dholbert: project wiki is here https://wiki.mozilla.org/BugzillaAutoLanding
  2098. # [21:24] <lsblakk|afk> it will be open to all devs v. soon now
  2099. # [21:24] <dholbert> Cool
  2100. # [21:24] <lsblakk|afk> (for try)
  2101. # [21:24] <lsblakk|afk> Q1 goal of branch landings automatically
  2102. # [21:25] * BenWa can't wait
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  2104. # [21:25] <@ehsan> rniwa: hmm, I'm pretty sure that will break web compat, wouldn't it?
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  2106. # [21:25] <@smaug> ehsan: I doubt
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  2108. # [21:25] <dholbert> lsblakk|afk, this seems like a dangerous step towards skynet levels of sentience
  2109. # [21:26] <@ehsan> smaug: why?
  2110. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> smaug, well, it's a spec :)
  2111. # [21:26] <BenWa> dholbert: Q2 goal, have the releng bot write the patch for us [auto-write-patch[
  2112. # [21:26] <rniwa> ehsan, Ms2ger: it appears that DOM 4 doesn't say we should reset it
  2113. # [21:26] <jhammel|sandwich> beh, everyone fears skynet....it can't be any worse than how humans have ran the place
  2114. # [21:26] <dholbert> BenWa, ha
  2115. # [21:26] <rniwa> ehsan: that's my feeling as well > will break web compat.
  2116. # [21:26] <rniwa> ehsan, Ms2ger: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#dispatching-events
  2117. # [21:26] <@smaug> ehsan: events are rarely used after dispatch
  2118. # [21:26] <@smaug> ehsan: FF chrome does use them in some cases
  2119. # [21:27] <BenWa> dholbert: Then it will begin running tests on us to improve its patch writing abilities, then it's all down hill from here. #portal2
  2120. # [21:27] <@ehsan> smaug: I'm not too worried about our chrome code, but I'd be surprised if we can't find some web code which relies on it, like one which captures the event in the closure or something
  2121. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> mjessome, so how does one define "success" on try?
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  2123. # [21:28] <timeless> grr
  2124. # [21:28] <@ehsan> rniwa, smaug: also, what is the rationale in doing this? i.e., what is the benefit in doing so?
  2125. # [21:28] <timeless> smaug: so at some point gecko changed from using Pixels to some other coordinate system, right?
  2126. # [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f410bdf30132 - Kyle Huey - Bug 722428: Sprinkle weakref pixie dust on SpecialPowers to avoid leaks until shutdown. r=ctalbert
  2127. # [21:28] <jdm> lsblakk|afk: is "Insufficient permissions to push to try" expected from the autolander?
  2128. # [21:29] <rniwa> ehsan: DOM3 said so. apparently it's a backward compatibility requirement
  2129. # [21:29] <@smaug> timeless: in which case?
  2130. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> rniwa, [citation needed] :)
  2131. # [21:29] <timeless> dunno
  2132. # [21:29] <rniwa> Ms2ger: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2011JanMar/0063.html
  2133. # [21:29] <lsblakk|afk> jdm: no
  2134. # [21:29] <@smaug> timeless: and which pixels?
  2135. # [21:29] <@ehsan> rniwa: so does IE implement this?
  2136. # [21:29] <@smaug> css pixels?
  2137. # [21:29] <lsblakk|afk> jdm: unless the patch author has insufficient permissions
  2138. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> ehsan, only IE, iirtbc
  2139. # [21:29] <jdm> lsblakk|afk: bug 704394
  2140. # [21:29] <rniwa> ehsan: yes, according to the author of the patch
  2141. # [21:29] <timeless> i'm trying to find a point where i can tell layout "the screen is only 480pixels wide, please limit layout to that dimension"
  2142. # [21:29] <@smaug> IE implements D3E pretty precisely
  2143. # [21:30] <jdm> lsblakk|afk: hmm, should it be based on the patch author or the person who set the [autoland] flag?
  2144. # [21:30] * jhammel|sandwich is now known as jhammel
  2145. # [21:30] <@smaug> timeless: you really need roc
  2146. # [21:30] <timeless> yeah, *sigh*
  2147. # [21:30] <lsblakk|afk> jdm: author or reviewer - but i see ehsan reviewed that
  2148. # [21:30] <@smaug> IIRC, eli changed coordinate handling
  2149. # [21:30] <@ehsan> rniwa, smaug: do you know which version of IE implements this first?
  2150. # [21:30] <rniwa> smaug: which is nice in most cases > implements D3E precisely
  2151. # [21:30] <@smaug> so that zoomin/out works nicely
  2152. # [21:30] * Cwiiis is now known as CwiiisAway
  2153. # [21:30] <mjessome> Ms2ger: It's an interpretation of Green/Orange runs on try. lsblakk|afk can fill in more on those specifically.
  2154. # [21:30] <@smaug> but that was years ago
  2155. # [21:30] <rniwa> ehsan: no idea.
  2156. # [21:30] <@smaug> ehsan: 9
  2157. # [21:31] <@khuey> lsblakk|afk: does it handle people whose bugzilla email differs from their LDAP email address?
  2158. # [21:31] <@ehsan> 9 is pretty recent
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  2160. # [21:31] <@khuey> I expect there's a lot of that
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  2162. # [21:31] <rniwa> ehsan, smaug: it appears that we need to file a Mozilla bug and discuss there for a record
  2163. # [21:31] <lsblakk|afk> khuey: i have a bug on secreview to look at LDAP/bugzilla account issues
  2164. # [21:31] <@smaug> ehsan: IE < 9 didn't have DOM events at all
  2165. # [21:31] <@khuey> lsblakk|afk: yay
  2166. # [21:31] <lsblakk|afk> we don't know how that part will work yet
  2167. # [21:31] <@ehsan> rniwa, smaug: I guess I don't have a strong objection to implementing this, especially if both gecko and webkit do it around the same time
  2168. # [21:31] <@smaug> rniwa: yes, please do that
  2169. # [21:31] <@ehsan> smaug: ah, you're right :)
  2170. # [21:31] <timeless> lsblakk|afk: please at some point have someone figure out what happens if the system is applied to me :)
  2171. # [21:32] <mjessome> khuey: it looks at the bugzilla email field set in LDAP
  2172. # [21:32] * timeless tends to work nicely for pathological boundary cases
  2173. # [21:32] <mjessome> as well as the bugzilla email address used
  2174. # [21:32] <@ehsan> rniwa: do you know if there's a gecko bug on this?
  2175. # [21:32] <@ehsan> I'll comment on the webkit bug
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  2177. # [21:32] <timeless> mjessome: fwiw my ldap and bugzilla addresses aren't connected
  2178. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> mjessome, does that exists for non-employees?
  2179. # [21:32] <@khuey> Ms2ger: no
  2180. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> -s
  2181. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> In that case, r-
  2182. # [21:33] <timeless> oh, in that case i don't have an ldap :)
  2183. # [21:33] <@smaug> ok, these patches build, and don't leak immediately. time to land.
  2184. # [21:33] <rniwa> ehsan: don't think there's one
  2185. # [21:33] <rniwa> ehsan: that's why I asked you :)
  2186. # [21:33] <@ehsan> rniwa: I'll file one
  2187. # [21:33] <timeless> but there's a something which controls ssh key stuff... somewhere
  2188. # [21:33] * timeless thought that was an ldap
  2189. # [21:33] <rniwa> ehsan: thanks
  2190. # [21:33] <@khuey> timeless: non-employees can't set a custom bugzilla email address in LDAP, afaik
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  2192. # [21:33] <@khuey> because the only way I know to do that is through the MoCo phonebook
  2193. # [21:33] <@smaug> so, at what time will aurora uplift happen?
  2194. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> mjessome, anyway, make sure to review each step to make sure it works for non-employees
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  2196. # [21:34] <@smaug> (in other words, can I sleep soonish)
  2197. # [21:34] <@smaug> (and land patches in the morning)
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  2201. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> smaug, where "soonish" is 4AM? :)
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  2204. # [21:35] <timeless> Ms2ger: it's only ~10:30pm there, i think
  2205. # [21:35] <@khuey> smaug: 4pm your time, I think
  2206. # [21:35] <@smaug> Ms2ger: you know, I was forced to wake up early last week. something like 7:30am CET
  2207. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> Ouch
  2208. # [21:35] <@khuey> that would be 9 am PST if I did it right
  2209. # [21:35] <@khuey> smaug: hey, you could sleep in a couple days
  2210. # [21:36] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I had probably as bad jet lag as what khuey had
  2211. # [21:36] <@smaug> when he traveled to Europe
  2212. # [21:36] * timeless wonders if someone has done a useful writeup of how gecko layout starts
  2213. # [21:36] <rniwa> ehsan: thanks for filing the bug
  2214. # [21:36] <mjessome> Ms2ger: we're doing our best to allow for that. Issues come in with security, and who is allowed to autoland where. We are going to have a security chat with infrasec about all of this, and then hopefully it will be available to non-employees at release time as well.
  2215. # [21:37] <timeless> about the only thing i've managed to do is get popups constrained to the left X pixels of my primary screen (which isn't particularly useful)
  2216. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> mjessome, I take offense to the "hopefully"
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  2218. # [21:37] <rniwa> ehsan, Ms2ger: like you, I don't have a strong opinion on either behavior. I just want to make sure we agree on one behavior before someone starts depending on either behavior
  2219. # [21:37] <mjessome> sorry Ms2ger, we're doing out best ;)
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  2221. # [21:39] <timeless> ooh, i think i got it!
  2222. # [21:39] <jwatt> is there a reason DOMParser doesn't support text/html?
  2223. # [21:39] <@ehsan> rniwa: well, if IE does it, I don't have any strong objections
  2224. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> jwatt, it does
  2225. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> jwatt, update your tree :)
  2226. # [21:39] <jwatt> Ms2ger: since when?
  2227. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> O(Weeks)
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  2229. # [21:40] <jwatt> ok, so not in ff9 then
  2230. # [21:40] <@smaug> since last week
  2231. # [21:40] <jwatt> awesome
  2232. # [21:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: don't you need window/document in order to parse html?!
  2233. # [21:40] <@smaug> or perhaps week before
  2234. # [21:40] <@ehsan> oh
  2235. # [21:40] <@ehsan> that's neat
  2236. # [21:40] <@ehsan> how do we handle things like document.write in the dom parser?
  2237. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> Unscripted
  2238. # [21:40] <@smaug> ehsan: we support html docs also with XHR
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  2240. # [21:41] <@ehsan> smaug: and what will happen to document.write in those documents?
  2241. # [21:41] <@smaug> <script> doesn't get executed
  2242. # [21:41] <@smaug> IIRC
  2243. # [21:41] <@smaug> hsivonen would know the details
  2244. # [21:41] <@ehsan> hmm
  2245. # [21:41] <@ehsan> interesting
  2246. # [21:42] <@ehsan> you learn something new every day
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  2248. # [21:45] <@bz> <script> in the document doesn't run
  2249. # [21:45] <@bz> and external calls to write() are either no-ops or throw
  2250. # [21:45] <@bz> depending on how the spec got written. ;)
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  2255. # [21:49] <@ehsan> mjessome: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704394#c7
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  2260. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> bz, the spec hasn't been written yet :)
  2261. # [21:50] <jwir3> hm.. I'm seeing "Rebuild request for XXX Mochitest YY failed (network error)" every time I try to re-run something on try. Is this expected
  2262. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> jwir3, no
  2263. # [21:50] <mjessome> ehsan: thanks, I'm taking a look at it and I know what the issue was.
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  2265. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Bye bz
  2266. # [21:51] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Is it happening to you as well by any chance?
  2267. # [21:51] <Ms2ger> jwir3, dunno, got a link?
  2268. # [21:51] <jwir3> sure, here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=cc25476f1728
  2269. # [21:51] <jwir3> Try re-running any of the oranges
  2270. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> Yep, fails
  2271. # [21:52] <jwir3> ok, lemme speak with it
  2272. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> jhford?
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  2274. # [21:52] <jhford> Ms2ger!
  2275. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> You appear to be on buildduty!
  2276. # [21:52] <mconley> !seen bz
  2277. # [21:53] <firebot> bz was last seen 7 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying 'depending on how the spec got written. ;)' in #developers.
  2278. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> mccr8, just pinged out
  2279. # [21:53] <jhford-buildduty> Ms2ger: I am
  2280. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> Eek
  2281. # [21:53] <jwir3> ah hey jhford: We're seeing failures when we try to rebuild or cancel a try push
  2282. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> jhford-buildduty, retriggering https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=cc25476f1728 fails
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  2285. # [21:53] <jhford-buildduty> how does it fail?
  2286. # [21:53] <jwir3> (I also tried cancelling a build earlier)
  2287. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> Rebuild request for Win Reftest Unaccelerated opt failed. (network error)
  2288. # [21:53] <jwir3> "Rebuild request for XXX Mochitest YY failed (network error)"
  2289. # [21:53] <@smaug> I've seen similar failures lately
  2290. # [21:53] <jhford-buildduty> hmm
  2291. # [21:54] <jhford-buildduty> lets take this to #build
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  2293. # [21:55] <@smaug> could anyone watch the tree for me?
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  2295. # [21:55] <Ms2ger> decoder, the fuzz thing is coming up now?
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  2298. # [21:56] <decoder> Ms2ger: think so, yes
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  2302. # [21:57] <mccr8> smaug: I can. or you could land on inbound. ;)
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  2306. # [21:58] <gaston> khuey: thx for #667325 :)
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  2311. # [21:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: I have a hard time believing there is no spec on document.write
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  2313. # [21:59] <@bz> ms2ger: or that said spec doesn't say what happens for documents without a browsing context
  2314. # [21:59] <@smaug> mccr8: I don't land things to inbound
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  2317. # [21:59] <@smaug> mccr8: ok, I'll land these 3 patches
  2318. # [21:59] <@smaug> I would so much like to get the comp gc patch too
  2319. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> bz, there isn't one for text/html in DOMParser
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  2321. # [22:00] <mccr8> smaug: okay sounds good. I'll keep an eye on them.
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  2323. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> And that's all I care about, because it's the only thing on my todo list :)
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  2329. # [22:02] <@smaug> mccr8: I did push them to try also, and so far looking good
  2330. # [22:02] <mccr8> smaug: great
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  2332. # [22:03] <@smaug> mccr8: done
  2333. # [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aa0476948dc0 - Olli Pettay - Bug 721548 - Cleanup purple buffer during cycle-collector-forget-skippable, r=mrrc8
  2334. # [22:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de4f382f487b - Olli Pettay - Bug 721543 - Call forgetSkippable before CC, r=mccr8
  2335. # [22:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/89bb79343f73 - Olli Pettay - Bug 721515 - Add Documents, elements and textnodes to BBP, r=mccr8,jst
  2336. # [22:03] <@smaug> mccr8: and thanks!
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  2340. # [22:04] <mccr8> smaug: np
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  2344. # [22:05] <@smaug> mccr8: if you need to backout something, the patches in the bugs should be exactly the same ones I pushed
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  2347. # [22:05] <@smaug> (if that helps)
  2348. # [22:05] <mccr8> smug: okay great.
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  2352. # [22:07] <aja> timeless: read about a backend for that kinda thig panding in webkit in last week or so...maybe worth porting?
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  2354. # [22:07] <aja> landing
  2355. # [22:07] <timeless> aja: you're the second person to mention it
  2356. # [22:07] <timeless> (they had a link too)
  2357. # [22:07] <timeless> and it isn't a matter of porting so much as just doing it.
  2358. # [22:08] <timeless> it's only something we've needed for >12 years.
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  2361. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> [Fuzzing brownbag on at air.m.o]
  2362. # [22:10] <qDot> Ms2ger: Almost forgot, thanks.
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  2365. # [22:11] <cpearce> smaugIC: pong
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  2370. # [22:17] <Ms2ger> jhford, thanks
  2371. # [22:17] <jhford> np
  2372. # [22:17] <jhford> i don't know how self serve links to tbpl, so not totally sure that is the root of the problem
  2373. # [22:17] <philor> khuey: bustage
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  2377. # [22:19] <philor> was the answer "retriggering is broken because the cert expired, open https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve to give yourself a chance to accept the expired cert"?
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  2379. # [22:23] <cpearce> How do I tell if an nsGenericHTMLElement has display:none style from C++? Will its GetPrimaryFrame() return null?
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  2381. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> cpearce, yes
  2382. # [22:25] * KaiRo finds out again that he did get access to the main Mozilla repo with only one voucher (BenB) and no super-review - back then in 2002 ;-)
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  2384. # [22:26] <BenB> KaiRo: there was a time when there was no mandatory review.
  2385. # [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e7386241a147 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out f410bdf30132 (bug 722428) for mochitest bustage
  2386. # [22:26] <BenB> no review *at all*
  2387. # [22:26] <BenB> for netscape people, that is.
  2388. # [22:26] <IanN> biesi: ping
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  2391. # [22:27] <biesi> IanN, oong
  2392. # [22:27] <BenB> then, review was introduced, and the 2 people sitting next to each other ack-ed their changes, and controversial stuff went in just as smoothly. that situation continues until today.
  2393. # [22:27] <KaiRo> BenB: I wasn't Netscape, of course, I've been a pure volunteer contributor
  2394. # [22:27] <BenB> ditto
  2395. # [22:27] <BenB> that's why I'm surprised that I vouched for you back then
  2396. # [22:27] <IanN> biesi: in the process of reviewing SM project areas...
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  2398. # [22:28] <KaiRo> BenB: bug 134496 "I'll vouch for Robert, if I'm allowed to. He seems to be dutyful and do very good work. I don't expect problems."
  2399. # [22:28] <IanN> biesi: ...and you currently down as the owner of Download & File Handling...
  2400. # [22:28] <BenB> KaiRo: haha
  2401. # [22:28] <BenB> KaiRo: so: do good work! make no problems!
  2402. # [22:29] * bhearsum|bbl is now known as bhearsum
  2403. # [22:29] <KaiRo> BenB: seems that with time, I took the second paragraph too literally, though: "I would still vouch for him, if he get access to SeaMonkey, not just l10n."
  2404. # [22:29] <IanN> biesi: ...do you have any strong feelings about keeping ownership of that?
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  2406. # [22:29] <biesi> IanN, honestly, I'd rather not keep it :)
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  2408. # [22:29] <BenB> KaiRo: hihi
  2409. # [22:29] <KaiRo> BenB: OK, I'll try to do good work, just so that your vouch isn't shedding a bad light on you ;-)
  2410. # [22:29] <IanN> biesi: that's ok, that matches what is being proposed ;)
  2411. # [22:29] <BenB> KaiRo: thanks, kind of you :)
  2412. # [22:30] <IanN> KaiRo: isn't it a bit late for that :P
  2413. # [22:30] <KaiRo> IanN: it's never too late to be good ;-)
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  2415. # [22:30] <BenB> developers are like good wine: they ripe :)
  2416. # [22:30] <IanN> KaiRo: ah, you mean for next Christmas?
  2417. # [22:30] <KaiRo> IanN: for example
  2418. # [22:31] <BenB> lol
  2419. # [22:31] <BenB> (whereby "next" is a dynamic, not a fixed pointer)
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  2426. # [22:33] <IanN> just iterative ;)
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  2447. # [22:42] <philor> mbrubeck: ping
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  2449. # [22:44] <mbrubeck> philor: pong
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  2451. # [22:45] <philor> mbrubeck: the native Android bustage on inbound is too much for my fevered brain to figure out, can you tell me whether it's your clearly NPOTB patch, or one of the two that clearly wouldn't do that?
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  2454. # [22:47] * mbrubeck tries to find a way to blame cpeterson
  2455. # [22:47] <cpeterson> oops.
  2456. # [22:48] <philor> clobber or not can be a good way to shift the blame that far
  2457. # [22:48] <philor> except neither one seems to be
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  2459. # [22:49] <cpeterson> What is the error message? I rebased my patches on m-c this morning.
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  2461. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: It looks like the latest inbound build is crashing on startup.
  2462. # [22:49] <philor> hahaha, "error message"
  2463. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> I'm downloading it to try it locally, see if the log has anything useful.
  2464. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: Your patches built and ran fine; the bustage happened a few patches later... it's just that your stuff was the last to touch any Android code.
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  2467. # [22:50] <IanN> is chase still involved? if so could anyone tell me the correct chase on bugzilla?
  2468. # [22:50] <cpeterson> Yes. My ProGuard patch could cause some JNI exceptions on startup.
  2469. # [22:50] <mbrubeck> Right before the crash I get a lot of E/GeckoLinker(18643): /data/app/org.mozilla.fennec-1.apk!/libmozalloc.so: Warning: dynamic header type #6ffffffa not handled
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  2473. # [22:51] <mbrubeck> and then a crash in libxul.so (no symbols)
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  2475. # [22:51] <cpeterson> I've been seeing those "Warning: dynamic header type" (_without_ my patches) for about a week.
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  2478. # [22:51] <cpeterson> oh. Is this an incremental build of m-i?
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  2481. # [22:52] <mbrubeck> Yes.
  2482. # [22:52] <mbrubeck> Does it need a clobber?
  2483. # [22:52] * mbrubeck starts loading https://build.mozilla.org/clobberer/
  2484. # [22:52] <cpeterson> Very likely.
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  2486. # [22:52] <dholbert> jwir3, did you end up getting rebuilds working on try?
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  2488. # [22:52] <cpeterson> btw, where can I download the m-i builds?
  2489. # [22:52] <philor> itym ?branch=mozilla-inbound
  2490. # [22:53] <jwir3> dholbert: no. it'sbeen filed as a bug
  2491. # [22:53] <dholbert> jwir3, (I just got a successful retrigger on m-i)
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  2494. # [22:53] <jwir3> dholbert: looks like build.m.o ssl certs are expired
  2495. # [22:53] <dholbert> jwir3, oh interesting
  2496. # [22:53] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-android/1327954352/fennec-12.0a1.en-US.android-arm.apk is the crashing build
  2497. # [22:54] <IanN> is wtchang still involved? if so could anyone tell me the correct contact details for them?
  2498. # [22:54] <dholbert> jwir3, hmm if I visit https://build.mozilla.org/ I get a cert that was issued yesterday & expires in 2 years
  2499. # [22:54] <dholbert> jwir3, (but maybe you're talking about a subdomain off of that)
  2500. # [22:54] <jwir3> dholbert: hmmm... I dunno. jhford was taking care of it for us. :)
  2501. # [22:55] <dholbert> cool. :)
  2502. # [22:55] <jhford> IT is renewing the cert
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  2504. # [22:56] <mbrubeck> dholbert, jwir3: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722061
  2505. # [22:56] <dholbert> mm
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  2539. # [23:12] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, I am pretty sure the clobber will fix the Android crash. I could repro the crash with the tinderbox build, but when I sync'd m-i head, my local (incremental) build did not crash.
  2540. # [23:12] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: Great
  2541. # [23:13] <cpeterson> Sorry for snaring you in this problem. <:\
  2542. # [23:13] <mbrubeck> Oh, no problem.
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  2546. # [23:15] <mbrubeck> Has there been any discussion of an in-tree file we could touch to force a clobber?
  2547. # [23:15] <philor> lots, it just never goes anywhere
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  2549. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> Ah, I see Ehsan filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717372 earlier this month.
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  2551. # [23:17] <mbrubeck> ehsan is always one step ahead of me. :)
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  2553. # [23:19] <catlee> could make $topsrcdir/build/CLOBBER and have it contain a counter
  2554. # [23:19] <catlee> and if you want to clobber, you increment the counter
  2555. # [23:19] <mbrubeck> yeah, exactly.
  2556. # [23:19] <catlee> or dump your revision in there
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  2567. # [23:26] <jhford-buildduty> jwir3, dholbert: a new SSL cert has been installed
  2568. # [23:27] <dholbert> jhford-buildduty, nice
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  2573. # [23:30] <jtcranmer> jduell: ping
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  2579. # [23:32] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717372#c1, I wasn't the first one ;)
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  2584. # [23:34] <@khuey> philor: woops
  2585. # [23:34] <@khuey> sorry about that
  2586. # [23:34] <philor> np, I'm using it as an excuse to blame everything on you, makes starring way quicker ;)
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  2588. # [23:35] <catlee> nice truck
  2589. # [23:35] <catlee> trick
  2590. # [23:35] <catlee> I'm going to use that next time
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  2592. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8705f07a49ec - Neil Rashbrook - Better test for bug 649840 r=ehsan
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  2594. # [23:37] <@khuey> philor: ha
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  2604. # [23:42] <cers> I'm having some difficulties writing a test, and I'm pretty sure the troubles come from how I select elements in a treeview. It seems to work fine if I do it by hand, but in the test I get a js error
  2605. # [23:42] <cers> could I possibly get someone to take a quick look and see if I'm just missing something obvious?
  2606. # [23:43] <cers> test code: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468756
  2607. # [23:43] <cers> output http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468758
  2608. # [23:43] <cers> patched version of cookies.js: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1468762
  2609. # [23:44] <jwir3> jhford-buildduty: cool, thanks
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  2612. # [23:46] <@khuey> philor: for some reason I don't see this locally ...
  2613. # [23:46] <@khuey> this is going to be fun
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  2616. # [23:50] <lurking_work> khuey: blame it on jet-lag and german beer
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  2619. # [23:51] <philor> cpeterson: is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=8948879&tree=Mozilla-Inbound just another needs-clobber?
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  2622. # [23:52] <cpeterson> philor, yes (though only the compiled Java .class files need to be clobbered for this error). IDK if that surgical clobber is possible..
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  2624. # [23:53] <philor> nope, but it's already set
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  2629. # [23:56] <aja> firebot: carnitas
  2630. # [23:56] <firebot> aja: Sorry, I've no idea what 'carnitas' might be.
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