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# Session Start: Tue Feb 07 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <darktrojan> bah, no ms2ger
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# [00:00] <dholbert> do you want to dupe the other one to it, for now? that seems not-unreasonable
# [00:01] <RyanVM> dholbert: bz: Respectfully, bug 653355 hasn't seen any activity in 9 months. Bug 478834 hadn't in a year. If there's another bug filed, it doesn't seem like it's been anyone's priority to fix it either (if nobody can even remember if it exists or not). Why put a DUPEME on 478834(basically admitting that it's not likely to go anywhere) for a bug that people can't even find apparently? Why not...
# [00:01] <RyanVM> ...dupe 653355 to 478834 and fix that bug, and if the older bug ever turns up, dupe it forward?
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# [00:01] <dholbert> RyanVM, sounds good to me. The only reason I didn't dupe it was that it sounded like bz might have another dupe-target in mind
# [00:02] <dholbert> RyanVM, but yeah, assuming that other dupe-target isn't about-to-be-uncovered (which I think is a valid assumption), duping the two we know about seems reasonable
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# [00:02] <edmorley> philor: legal?
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# [00:02] <RyanVM> dholbert: I'll see if I can find the original bug, but it doesn't sound like it's high on the priority list
# [00:02] <philor> edmorley: Prior Art, no idea what group that's restricted to but it could be legal
# [00:02] <RyanVM> which is a shame since it obviously affects real sites
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# [00:03] <dholbert> RyanVM, given that it's a bug dating back to Firefox 2, I think that's true. :)
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# [00:03] <dholbert> RyanVM, but it sounds like it might not be too hard to fix... just needs someone to look into it
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# [00:03] <RyanVM> pretty amazing that after all these years, it hasn't gotten randomly fixed by another refactoring
# [00:03] <dholbert> yeah
# [00:04] <RyanVM> lord knows float handling has had a lot of work done
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# [00:05] <dholbert> (RyanVM, actually maybe it doesn't go quite back to firefox 2 -- I thought I remembered that, but I can't find a comment saying it at the moment)
# [00:05] <dholbert> (but anyway, yeah, old bug regardless. :))
# [00:05] <RyanVM> bug 14984 might be related
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# [00:06] <dholbert> related, but distinct I think
# [00:06] <dholbert> based on the summary, at least
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# [00:13] <RyanVM> dholbert: You're mostly hacking on SVG these days, right? Is there someone from the layout team (mats?) that might be interested in looking at it?
# [00:14] <dholbert> RyanVM, SVG & flexbox. float-handling sounds like mats or bz or dbaron or roc, though I think they're all pretty busy
# [00:14] <dholbert> RyanVM, possibly fantasai
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# [00:14] <RyanVM> yeah, all the above sound busy :-\
# [00:15] <RyanVM> oh well, I've done what I can do. I guess I'll move on to the next testcase-wanted bug
# [00:16] <dholbert> RyanVM, thanks very much for the testcase-reduction
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# [00:16] <dholbert> RyanVM, sounds like it was very non-trivial :)
# [00:16] <RyanVM> lots of trial and error
# [00:17] <RyanVM> sucks because most of the bugs I've filed lately have basically stalled out after triage (in fairness, they're some ugly/obscure ones)
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# [00:17] <RyanVM> as someone who's been around for awhile, I've at least seen enough of the big picture to understand
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# [00:18] <RyanVM> I pity a first-timer, though
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# [00:18] <dholbert> RyanVM, yeah, understood. if you feel up to taking a crack at fixing any of these bugs, of course... ;)
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# [00:19] <RyanVM> yeah, all that would require would be for me to learn how to hack layout
# [00:19] <RyanVM> and more c++ than I currently know ;)
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# [00:20] <RyanVM> so yeah, my basic strategy is take it as far as I can and then keep my fingers crossed from there
# [00:20] <RyanVM> ....which usually doesn't end up going anywhere because they end up on the plates of people with already full plates
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# [00:24] <jhammel> we need bigger plates!
# [00:25] <dholbert> perhaps if we invested in developing the drug from Limitless ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1219289/ )
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# [00:25] <jhammel> i was thinking more than cloning developers
# [00:26] <dholbert> we sort of tried that with bz; his younger brother dz has written some patchs
# [00:26] <dholbert> *pateches
# [00:26] <dholbert> *patches
# [00:27] <RyanVM> Warns about buffer overrun when specific C run-time (CRT) functions are used, parameters are passed, and assignments are performed, such that the data sizes are known at compile time. This warning is for situations that might elude typical data-size mismatch detection.
# [00:27] <RyanVM> does that sound like a potentially bad warning to anyone other than me?
# [00:27] <darktrojan> I could do with another me if you figure out this cloning stuff
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# [00:28] <dholbert> RyanVM, sounds vague but worthy of investigation
# [00:29] <RyanVM> that's one that's been sitting on a plate ;)
# [00:29] <RyanVM> only filed it 14 months ago (though admittedly it didn't become an official issue until the V10 switch)
# [00:29] <RyanVM> VC10*
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# [00:31] <RyanVM> if it's nothing, I can at least shut up about it :P
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# [00:31] <dholbert> the determination of whether it's nothing is non-trivial in some cases and requires much of the same work as actually fixing the bug
# [00:32] <dholbert> Not necessarily an easy call, sadly. (dunno about that specific case)
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# [00:37] <RyanVM> yeah, like my "js pgo breaks gmail" bug
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# [00:39] <RyanVM> but I guess buffer overruns can potential be security issues, right?
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# [00:40] <heycam> sfink, with your "bzexport --new" I reckon it should assign the newly created bug to me (and set status to assigned)
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# [00:41] <sfink> heycam: Hey, that's what Ms2ger said. I suppose I ought to get off my butt and do it.
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# [00:41] <heycam> sfink, (or I could quit complaining and submit a patch myself I guess!)
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# [00:42] <heycam> sfink, I'm liking it btw, especially for small changes I've got in my tree that I want to get out
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# [00:43] <sfink> Feel free to submit patches. I can probably get to a couple of things that have piled up by tonight or tomorrow.
# [00:43] <sfink> What are you tweaking?
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# [00:44] <heycam> sfink, oh, no I don't have any tweaks in my copy of that. I meant code changes I want to get out into bugzilla where actually filing the bug is the hardest part. :)
# [00:44] <heycam> (is why I'm liking bzexport --new)
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# [00:44] <sfink> Oh! Sorry, totally misread what you said.
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# [00:44] <jhammel> bzexport --new is still an hg extension, right?
# [00:45] <sfink> Yeah, I've found that I now actually file bugs for things that I would previously just let sit in some local queue and rot.
# [00:45] <jhammel> heh
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# [00:45] <sfink> jhammel: It hasn't achieved sentience yet, if that's what you're asking. (Yes, it's still an hg extension.)
# [00:45] <hub> should we merge the qimport bz: and bzexport?
# [00:45] <jhammel> (and bzconsole, etc)
# [00:45] <darktrojan> bz, khuey, I've fixed that file input patch
# [00:46] <darktrojan> I can land it if you like
# [00:46] <sfink> I'm not sure. The actual code for qimport has less in common with bzexport than you'd expect.
# [00:46] <hub> sfink: it is more about the functional portion
# [00:46] <birtles> btw, has anyone else complained about trouble running bzexport on windows? I have to run a different version of hg to use bzexport and I wonder if I'm the only one
# [00:47] <hub> like one extension to rule them all
# [00:47] <sfink> (qimport really wants one or two core changes to mercurial, and then it would just be a protocol handler plugin)
# [00:47] <sfink> birtles: I've never tried running it on Window, to be honest. If I did and it broke, I'd blame khuey. Mostly because he's the most fun to blame.
# [00:48] <birtles> sfink, :)
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# [00:48] <birtles> I think the problem was not finding the json module in the version of python packaged with hg for win
# [00:48] <birtles> you have to run the python version of hg or something like that
# [00:48] <sfink> See, there you go. khuey is making the MozillaBuild releases these days, isn't he?
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# [00:48] <birtles> but it's really slow so I only run the python version when using bzexport
# [00:49] <birtles> I wouldn't recommend using it otherwise
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# [00:49] <sfink> birtles: please file a bug on MozillaBuild for including that module or extension or whatever python calls those doohickeys.
# [00:49] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ping
# [00:50] <birtles> sfink: ok, will do but I don't think it's easily fixable in MozillaBuild, I think it's the way hg is packaged
# [00:50] <sfink> MozillaBuild contains mercurial
# [00:51] <birtles> right, it's the way mercurial is package
# [00:51] <birtles> using py2exe
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# [00:51] <sfink> Oh. You meant "easily fixable", not "fixable", when you said "easily fixable". Funny that.
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# [00:51] <sfink> I don't know how any of that works.
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# [00:54] <stuart> i love the outstanding bugmail requests
# [00:54] <stuart> (2829 days old)
# [00:54] <stuart> lol?
# [00:55] <jhammel> INT_OVERFLOW days old
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# [00:55] <stuart> nope its real
# [00:55] <darktrojan> sfink, if you need json in mozillabuild python, python just needs an update to 2.7
# [00:55] <jhammel> better get on that! ;)
# [00:55] <stuart> yeah
# [00:55] <stuart> it came in on my birthday in 2004
# [00:55] * jtcranmer hopes this will finally convince those on whom he's been waiting for years to finish their reviews
# [00:56] <jhammel> jtcranmer: it will probably just convince them to filter their email more :/
# [00:56] <stuart> i would just clear it since its not really real anymore
# [00:56] <stuart> but want to break 3000!
# [00:56] <Fallen> 1$ donation per day of outstanding requests per patch? ;)
# [00:56] <jhammel> Fallen++ ;)
# [00:56] <darktrojan> who gets the dollar, Fallen ?
# [00:56] <@khuey> I'd just start r-ing patches immediately
# [00:56] <jhammel> mofo
# [00:57] <darktrojan> :(
# [00:57] <Fallen> I would say me, but I guess I should say mozilla ;-)
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# [00:57] <jhammel> khuey: that might still be better than having them outstanding
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# [00:57] <sfink> darktrojan: Ok, thanks.
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# [00:57] <sfink> birtles: darktrojan says json needs python 2.7. Release notes for MozillaBuild 1.6 say it contains python 2.7.2. Upgrade?
# [00:58] <@khuey> sfink: the python that hg uses is not the python mozillabuild ships
# [00:58] <Fallen> "r-, I can't afford this bug" ;-)
# [00:58] <birtles> sfink: mercurial comes bundled with it's own python
# [00:58] * darktrojan notes he hasn't used mozillabuild since 1.5
# [00:58] <jhammel> Fallen: lol
# [00:58] <jhammel> that is in fact what py2exe does
# [00:58] <darktrojan> birtles, it does? ew
# [00:59] <birtles> darktrojan: yeah, and it doesn't include the json module from memory
# [00:59] <sfink> Ok, while my parents are fighting it out, I'll run off to #jsapi
# [01:00] <jhammel> birtles, darktrojan : it won't unless the python version used is 2.6 or later
# [01:00] <jhammel> at least not by default
# [01:00] <@khuey> jhammel: py2exe omits unneeded modules
# [01:00] <@khuey> so if mercurial doesn't use json it won't be available
# [01:00] <@khuey> regardless of the version
# [01:00] <jhammel> khuey: oh, for some reason i thought stdlib was always included
# [01:01] * jhammel wonders how it knows what is "unneeded"
# [01:01] <@khuey> jhammel: it might be
# [01:01] <@khuey> not sure
# [01:01] * darktrojan is glad he doesn't use windows for development any more
# [01:01] <@khuey> jhammel: I know that ted ran into this problem with the sqlite module
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# [01:02] <birtles> yeah, if I try running "hg bzexport" using the version of mercurial shipped with MozillaBuild I get "Error sending patch: No module named json"
# [01:02] <birtles> if I use the mercurial version that runs as a python application it works
# [01:03] <birtles> but it's really slow
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# [01:51] <jgilbert> if I wanted to dereference a three-byte value, is there a good thing to cast it through?
# [01:52] <jgilbert> we don't have a PRUint24 or something, do we?
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# [01:53] <Mossop> A PRUint16 and a PRUint8? ;)
# [01:53] <jhammel> :shudder:
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# [01:53] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=PRUint24
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# [01:54] <derf> jgilbert: There is no mass-market processor that supports reading 3-byte values in a single instruction.
# [01:54] <@khuey> I sense a business opportunity :-P
# [01:55] <jgilbert> derf: sure, but can I punt 'doing it fast' to the compiler somehow?
# [01:55] <jhammel> i sense insanity :P
# [01:55] <derf> jgilbert: No.
# [01:55] <Mossop> khuey: Remind me not to invest in any startup to create
# [01:55] <Mossop> *you create
# [01:55] <jgilbert> 16 and an 8 it is then
# [01:55] <@khuey> Mossop: :-D
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# [01:56] <Mook_as> jgilbert: reading a whole 32 bytes _might_ work, if it's safe; then you can discard 8 bits. But that seems odd.
# [01:57] <jgilbert> Mook_as: it's not necessarily safe here, I think
# [01:57] <jgilbert> 24-bit pixel formats
# [01:57] <jgilbert> unsafe at either the beginning or the end
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# [01:57] <@khuey> Mook_as: 32 _bytes_?
# [01:57] <@khuey> :-P
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# [01:58] <jgilbert> khuey: just in case! :D
# [01:58] <Mook_as> do you end up with a memory allocates a block size that isn't actually a multiple of 4?
# [01:58] <derf> Really, you'd read 24 bytes. Preferably with ARM's strided loads.
# [01:58] <Mook_as> khuey: .... I guess I can't divide 32 by 8 correctly :(
# [01:58] <jgilbert> Mook_as: probably not. Is that guaranteed somewhere?
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# [01:59] <Mook_as> jgilbert: if you don't know, let's say no :p (I bet jemalloc, and any libc we end up with, do... but that's not a guarantee)
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# [01:59] <derf> malloc requires pointers to be aligned to the largest aligned required for any type on the target platform.
# [01:59] <@khuey> yeah
# [01:59] <@khuey> we found that out the hard way with jemalloc
# [02:00] <derf> In theory, on x86, that's 1 byte, but in practice it's 8 bytes on x86-32.
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# [02:00] <jgilbert> pointers yes, but is the 'end' of the alloc'd space also aligned?
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# [02:01] <derf> jgilbert: Well, it ain't gonna segfault unless it passes a page boundary.
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# [02:01] <@khuey> derf: it's not 8 bytes with our allocator
# [02:01] <@khuey> derf: at least, not consistently
# [02:01] <derf> khuey: Wonderful.
# [02:01] <tbsaunde> khuey: what is it then?
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# [02:01] <@khuey> tbsaunde: it can be as little as 2 byte aligned
# [02:01] <jgilbert> I still don't love accessing out-of-bounds stuff
# [02:02] <jgilbert> but speed is nice
# [02:02] <@khuey> if you do malloc(1)
# [02:02] <@khuey> and you're on windows
# [02:02] <derf> khuey: Crazy!
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# [02:02] <@khuey> derf: on linux we had to bump it up because system libraries end up using our allocator and they expect word alignment
# [02:02] <tbsaunde> mallocing less than largest required alignment is sort of a special case
# [02:02] <@khuey> tbsaunde: right
# [02:03] <derf> jgilbert: Well, there's only a few pixels near the end of the buffer.
# [02:03] <derf> Process most of them fast, special case the end.
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# [02:03] <tbsaunde> its kind of odd that jemalloc doesn't make all allocations some minimum size that it can stuff pointers in etc
# [02:04] <jgilbert> derf: yeah, true
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# [02:04] <jgilbert> I'd prefer less special cases
# [02:04] <derf> Wouldn't we all.
# [02:04] <derf> But you asked for fast.
# [02:04] <jgilbert> ><
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# [02:04] <jgilbert> it's almost as if doing it well is harder than doing it poorly.
# [02:05] <@khuey> that's generally the case
# [02:05] <derf> If it wasn't, it would already be done well!
# [02:05] <jgilbert> \o/
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# [02:06] <jlebar> jgilbert, We have a 4-byte minimum on platforms where we use GCC (i.e., everywhere but Linux), and it seems to work fine. I bet we could bump it up on Windows too, if it mattered.
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# [02:07] <derf> I still don't think it helps.
# [02:07] <jlebar> derf, We use 4 bytes because that's what gcc seems to assume.
# [02:07] <tbsaunde> so, one thing to consider is if you read 4 bytes at a time starting at the beginning of what you actually want
# [02:07] <jlebar> You can see that this was done extremely scientifically.
# [02:07] <tbsaunde> you will have unaligned reads
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# [02:07] <jgilbert> it is still worrisome, because you could have a case with packed bytes. And accessing the last byte would also access the next three.
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# [02:08] <derf> E.g., your buffer is 24 pixels. The last pixel is not at an aligned address. If you read 4 bytes starting there, you'll go past the end of the buffer, which _could_ be nicely aligned with the end of a page.
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# [02:08] <jlebar> oh, if that's what we're talking about... :D
# [02:09] <@khuey> jlebar: "extremely scientifically" indeed
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# [02:09] <tbsaunde> I assume this is a memory mapped buffer so rules for struct layout don't apply?
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# [02:10] <jlebar> khuey, In some sense, I guess it was scientific. Observation: "We see crashes." Hypothesis: "GCC is screwing us by assuming 4 bytes" "Experiment: Make jemalloc's minimum allocation size 4 bytes." Conclusion: "Fuck gcc."
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# [02:10] <derf> Nobel Prize material.
# [02:10] <jgilbert> truly
# [02:10] <jlebar> lol
# [02:10] <@khuey> heh
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# [02:13] <lsblakk> dear anyone who has used autoland so far: what would you prefer to happen when bzapi is down and we cannot return results to your bug a) a delayed post (poss 10 hours or more late) b) an email c) to check a status page to confirm that your bug comment _would_ have been posted and just letting you know bzapi was down or d) other, please comment
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# [02:14] <jlebar> lsblakk, I guess "bugzilla should work" is not an option, is it?
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# [02:14] <lsblakk> sometimes it goes down
# [02:14] <jlebar> indeed.
# [02:14] <lsblakk> seems to get caught pretty fast cause of tbpl dependencies
# [02:15] <jlebar> You might say, "Sometimes it's up." :)
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# [02:15] <lsblakk> at least you still have (hopefully) your tbpl page to check results against
# [02:15] <philor> I wouldn't count on tbpl keeping it up
# [02:15] <lsblakk> this is just in case the final bug post isn't posted
# [02:15] <jlebar> lsblakk, I kind of like an e-mail, 'cause presumably I would have gotten an e-mail from bugzilla.
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# [02:17] <lsblakk> ehsan ^ any preference? edmorley?
# [02:17] <@ehsan> lsblakk: can we have this conversation in an email thread please? I need to leave :/
# [02:18] <lsblakk> sure - good idea :)
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# [02:26] <jlebar> Heh, I know why my macos reftests have been pending forever.
# [02:26] <jlebar> It's because I created a backlog this morning by running 40 of them.
# [02:26] <jlebar> :(
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# [02:28] <edmorley> lsblakk: I'm not sure to be honest. For now I've mainly been using it for checkin-neededs, so it's pretty much set + forget (and I don't CC myself) and when I come back to the checkin-neededs list the next day I can follow the tbpl results (using the initial starting run post) to see what is random orange etc, so I don't need the final post
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# [02:29] <edmorley> but I can see how someone CC'd on a non checkin-needed bug might need the final email as a reminder to actually check it in
# [02:29] <edmorley> s/final email/final bugzilla comment and subsequent email/
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# [02:34] <edmorley> lsblakk: I suspect a delayed bugzilla post might be best (and hopefully easiest for you too), since at least non checkin-needed bugs won't end up stuck in the black hole between r+/awaiting try results and being checked in, due to no email reminder
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# [02:35] <edmorley> and a direct email would only go to the person requesting autoland-try/patch author, rather than all of those CC'd to the bug who might actually be the ones to check it in
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# [02:36] <lsblakk> ya, good points
# [02:37] <lsblakk> i sent out a dev.planning thread to ask for input there too
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# [02:56] <@roc> I am surprised that a 100x100 opaque black PNG with an alpha channel is more than twice the size of the same image encoded with no alpha channel
# [02:57] <cmr> Is that compressed at all?
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# [02:59] <darktrojan> doesn't PNG have an 8bit format as well as 32?
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# [03:26] <@roc> cmr: yes
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# [03:29] * @bz was more or less caught up with reviews on Friday. :(
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# [03:30] <darktrojan> time to implement reviewbot
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# [03:31] <birtles> bz, sorry! --;
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# [03:35] <Waldo> you know, if programmers reviewed academic papers, every single one would be r-'d for poor variable naming
# [03:35] <cmr> Heh
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# [03:36] <Waldo> at least micro- and macroeconomics use English letters for the most common variables
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# [03:36] <@bz> birtles: hmm?
# [03:37] <@bz> birtles: not your fault
# [03:37] <@bz> birtles: yours was one of the ones I finished!
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# [03:37] * @bz got 8 review requests today
# [03:38] <@bz> It wouldn't be so bad except for the context-switching overhead. :(
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# [03:38] <@bz> birtles: though if you're here....
# [03:39] <@bz> birtles: what's this "move redundancy checking" patch really doing?
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# [03:39] <birtles> bz: oh man, thanks so much for the review. If I was in your shoes I'd take a lot longer :)
# [03:39] <@bz> birtles: is it handling cases when we didn't optimize away the attr change but the value didn't really change?
# [03:39] <birtles> bz, so I was trying to match our current behaviour with regards to dispatching mutation events
# [03:40] <@bz> birtles: but didn't want to do the "is it changing" check up front
# [03:40] <birtles> previously we were relying on checks inside nsGenericElement to compare strings and ignore redundant changes
# [03:40] <@bz> birtles: right
# [03:40] <@bz> ok
# [03:40] <birtles> but now that we're pointing to SVG objects we can't rely on that
# [03:40] <birtles> so I moved all the redundancy checking to the SVG code
# [03:40] <@bz> right
# [03:40] <birtles> before it called Will/DidModifyXXX it would check for redundant changes
# [03:40] <@bz> because we're no longer coming in through SetAttr
# [03:41] <@bz> right?
# [03:41] <birtles> right
# [03:41] <birtles> but that seemed a bit fragile
# [03:41] <birtles> and increased code size
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# [03:41] <birtles> so I just added a string comparison at the moment when we dispatch the mutation events
# [03:41] <@bz> ok
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# [03:41] <birtles> since we don't normally dispatch those events
# [03:41] <birtles> it didn't seem a big performance hit
# [03:42] <@bz> so from the SVG point of view, this means more processing, even when no mutation handlers, when no-op changes are made
# [03:42] <@bz> but maybe that's ok
# [03:42] <@bz> for the non-SVG case this is not a big deal
# [03:42] <@bz> thanks
# [03:42] <birtles> yeah, it's a trade-off
# [03:43] <birtles> jwatt was suggesting it's better to do the checks in SVG land
# [03:43] <@bz> In some ways, the right place to do the check is as early as possible
# [03:43] <birtles> ok, I'm fine with that
# [03:43] <@bz> at the entry point into the objet that's changing
# [03:44] <@bz> unless there are too many of those
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# [03:44] <@bz> It would certainly lead to the best behavior in the face of dumb scripts (so most of them)
# [03:44] <birtles> so basically, just drop that patch
# [03:45] * @bz would be fine with it either way, probably
# [03:45] <@bz> I'll say that in the bug
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# [03:45] <birtles> thanks!
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# [05:36] <@bz> what's a good way, in python, to express a many-to-one mapping from some integers to other data? :(
# [05:36] <heycam> bz, a dictionary?
# [05:36] * heycam is not a python programmer
# [05:36] * @bz point to many-to-one
# [05:36] <@bz> think this situation
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# [05:37] <@dolske> eval a perl script? ;)
# [05:37] <@bz> switch type:
# [05:37] <@bz> case int8:
# [05:37] <@bz> case int16:
# [05:37] <@bz> case int32:
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# [05:38] <@bz> return " int32_t arg0;\n JS_ValueToInt32(cx, argv[0], &arg0)"
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# [05:39] <@bz> Though I suppose in practice I'll have to cat to different things, hmm
# [05:39] <heycam> I guess you could do `if type in [int8, int16, int32]:`
# [05:39] * @bz just hates the code duplication
# [05:39] <@bz> oh, good point
# [05:39] <heycam> saves a bunch of anded things
# [05:39] <@bz> yeah, that works
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# [06:11] <Callek> I saw the initial post, but I can't find it now
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# [06:12] <kwierso> Callek: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/k4sRq9tV3RU ?
# [06:13] <Callek> kwierso: ahh so it is
# [06:13] <Callek> thx
# [06:13] <kwierso> not a problem
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# [06:20] <Ventron> can we still disable the js jit if needed?
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# [06:20] <@roc> yes
# [06:20] <Ventron> roc: using the same prefs as before? (javascript.options.jit.chrome) i thought i read they were removed
# [06:21] <@roc> I didn't think so, but maybe
# [06:21] <Callek> jlebar: ping, do we have a running example of: http://jbalogh.me/2012/01/30/push-notifications/ ?
# [06:22] <Callek> assuming it works in trunk Firefox, I want to test it in Trunk SeaMonkey as well ;-) (to find out if UX patches are needed, for example ;-) )
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# [06:24] <Ventron> roc: now it's crashing under jemalloc. given that valgrind hooks into malloc and free etc, do i have to recompile without jemalloc?
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# [06:26] <ewong> btw, is it actually possible to develop under the MSVC 2010 IDE?
# [06:27] <@roc> you mean it's crashing in jemalloc when you run it under valgrind?
# [06:27] <Ventron> roc: i found a doc, turns out i do need to disable jemalloc
# [06:27] <Ventron> roc: yes, that's what i meant
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# [06:39] <gen> is planet.mozilla down for everyone else too?
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# [06:41] <glob> gen, works for me
# [06:41] <ewong> gen wfm
# [06:41] <ewong> slow..
# [06:41] <gen> hrm
# [06:43] <gen> why would it not work for me...
# [06:43] <gen> let me try with the VPN
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# [08:08] <thomaslee> hi folks ... I'm eagerly awaiting CORS support for Server-Sent Events. So two questions: Is there anything holding up CORS support for SSE (speaking from the perspective of security / policy / whatever), and, if not, can I help implement it?
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# [08:13] <MattN> thomaslee: IIUC, it's been implemented already in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664179
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# [08:14] <MattN> it says it was in version 10 but I think it was actually in 11
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# [08:14] <thomaslee> oh really? that's awesome news if it has already landed.
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# [08:18] <MattN> thomaslee: yes, it's in 11 (currently aurora channel). I verified in the code and with https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Server-sent_events/EventSource#Browser_compatibility
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# [08:19] <thomaslee> MattN: great! thanks very much for investigating, really appreciate it.
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# [08:22] <thomaslee> yep, understand that -- just glad to see it's on its way :)
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# [10:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3c1cdbbea964 - Olli Pettay - Bug 724284, cleanup XBL proto setup, r=bz
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# [10:23] <mak> k, proceeding
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# [11:14] <firebot> god was last seen 33 weeks, 2 days, 5 hours, 16 minutes and 33 seconds ago, changing nick to jcranmer.
# [11:14] <grubshka> D'oh
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# [11:16] <darktrojan> aha!
# [11:18] <mak> http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6250
# [11:19] <mak> at least now we know who is
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# [11:22] <Mnyromyr> LOL
# [11:23] <edmorley> I kind of expected "firebot: I've never seen a 'god', sorry.", should have known someone would have used the nick at some point...
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# [11:34] <edmorley> mak: I've clobbered this, but is it actually a real issue? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=9142992&tree=Firefox
# [11:36] <edmorley> I'm sure I've seen it before (+bug), but can't find anything filed
# [11:36] <mak> edmorley: heh, hard to tell, from the text it may be a g++ bug. maybe should file a bug and link it to an upstream report. though may even just be a bad slave >/
# [11:36] <edmorley> although I was using quicksearch, so I'll maybe search fixed too
# [11:38] <mak> edmorley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711869
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# [11:39] <edmorley> ah, thank you :-)
# [11:39] <mak> should be fixed in gcc 4.5.3, though looks like we use 4.5.0
# [11:40] <mak> edmorley: actually google did a better job than quick search
# [11:41] <mak> maybe I should add a gbug keyword to search google for bugs
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# [11:47] <IanN> heh
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# [12:01] <NeilAway> darktrojan: yeah, you're lucky that was too late at night for me, even last night, when I was later than usual
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# [12:02] <darktrojan> NeilAway, ?
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# [12:06] <IanN> i guess it was either reviewbot or shared dictionaries
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# [12:12] <@smaug> hsivonen: sorry, I'm late with reviewing
# [12:12] <@smaug> your patches are quite difficult
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# [12:15] <NeilAway> darktrojan: just reading scrollback re dictionary sharing
# [12:15] <darktrojan> oh right
# [12:15] <hsivonen> smaug: ok. (the plain text serializer patch is mostly code removal even though a lot of lines are affected)
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# [12:15] <darktrojan> I made a rude remark about seamonkey, didn't I
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# [12:31] <NeilAway> roc: using a cheap paint package I took a grey-scale image and turned it into an alpha channel with a black foreground and it only increased file size by a quarter
# [12:31] <@roc> heh
# [12:33] <darktrojan> hmm, I really think the 'undo add to dictionary' menuitem should disappear after a while
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# [12:33] <darktrojan> it's kinda unnecessary an hour later
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# [12:42] <glandium> wolfiR: missing / :)
# [12:43] <wolfiR> glandium: yeah ;-)
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# [12:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d25faacb769 - Mats Palmgren - Backout bug 722325 (a8b8c4489e4e). r=roc
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/43251fa50e35 - Mats Palmgren - Backout bug 719177 (2cae7e5c62ae,07bd73451aa4,13739446fc8e,0246973f2513,f222fbece983,8f11aaac24dc). r=roc
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/66458f5036df - Mats Palmgren - merge backout
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f1b1574e4b0 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 724432 - Skip UpdateOverflow if we did Reflow. Don't propagate UpdateOverflow in ReResolveStyleContext. r=roc
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9237d0cacba5 - Mats Palmgren - merge backout
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# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4eda0eecbb95 - Mats Palmgren - merge backout
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cffa39f708c0 - Mats Palmgren - Backout bug 722117 (a5569fc4c390). r=roc
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f7ca5d73bbdd - Mats Palmgren - merge backout
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/14e550268f98 - Mats Palmgren - Backout Part 4 of bug 524925 (73eaf1199ff0). r=roc
# [12:58] <@roc> woah
# [12:58] <@roc> did Jeff M fix the PAC bug?
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# [13:00] <@smaug> nsIDOMMozConnection o_O
# [13:01] <Ms2ger> The Moz Connection?
# [13:01] <@roc> looks like some unholy alliance of Jeff M, Josh Matthews, Boris, Biesi, and Steve Workman
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# [14:00] <mounir> smaug: I just asked you a review but you should note that I wanted to point it to Ms2ger but he is not here
# [14:00] <mounir> feel free to blame him :)
# [14:00] <mounir> (it's a *very* trivial patch)
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# [14:02] <@smaug> mounir: could you explain the patch
# [14:04] <@smaug> mounir: the patch is perhaps trivial, but I don't understand why it is needed
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# [14:10] <mounir> smaug: form:invalid is going to be added
# [14:10] <mounir> and some tests are failing because they have :invalid { something }
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# [14:11] <mounir> while they meant input:invalid { something }
# [14:11] <mounir> they don't want to match form elements
# [14:11] <@smaug> is it defined in some spec that form element can have :invalid
# [14:11] <mounir> smaug: it's new ;)
# [14:11] <mounir> in html specs
# [14:11] <gcp> taras: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1478131
# [14:12] <@smaug> mounir: it is a bit strange to fix test in a separate bug, but ok
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# [14:45] <@ted> roc: gamepad API doesn't really have a forum at the moment
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# [14:46] <@ted> it was webevents wg, but got punted
# [14:46] <@ted> probably will be another wg, but hasn't been accepted yet
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# [14:46] <@ted> mak: do we have a possible fix for this sqlite issue yet?
# [14:46] <@ted> because it's killing me
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# [14:46] <mak> ted: the hang when coming back from idle? it's pending review
# [14:46] <@ted> okay
# [14:47] <@ted> i sure hope that's what this is
# [14:47] <@ted> i sampled a stack on mac yesterday
# [14:47] <mak> 99% sure it is
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# [14:47] <mak> btw, I also added telemetry on frecency for future, so we can keep an eye on it.
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# [14:49] <@ted> mak: http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/hang-sample-mac.txt
# [14:50] <@ted> look like the issue you're fixing?
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# [14:51] <gcp> mak: oh, the pastebin I just did was exactly that
# [14:51] <mak> yeah, we mostly increased the contention possibility
# [14:51] <gcp> mak: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1478131
# [14:51] <gcp> mak: browser hung for a minute or 3
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# [14:51] <mak> my patch goes back to where we were
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# [14:51] <mak> yeah I tried on my mac and it was hung for about 300s
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# [14:52] <gcp> (this was aurora)
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# [14:52] <mak> yep, the fix will be ported to aurora
# [14:52] <mak> as soon as a I get a review and land in central
# [14:52] <@ted> huh
# [14:52] <@ted> my windows firefox is hung doing some selector matching apparently
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# [14:53] <mak> selector matching is not my fault, at least :)
# [14:53] <@ted> heh
# [14:53] <@ted> it's been pretty hang-y lately though
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# [14:54] <@ted> i just opened two crash-stats tabs and now it's basically hung
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# [14:54] <@ted> i'm a few days out of date
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# [14:55] <cers> my nightly has been more unstable/hangy lately too actually - crashed a few time either going into or coming out of idle
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# [14:55] <@ted> cers: crashed or hung?
# [14:56] <cers> ted: both has occured
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# [14:59] <JPeterson> suggestion: "Do this automatically" even when a Content-Disposition is sent, at least optionally
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# [15:59] <MarcoZ> bsmedberg: ping?
# [16:00] <mak> hm, luckily we didn't yet merge the dom perf regression
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# [16:10] <MarcoZ> Ah, and here I thought all the time those hangs were because of something on my system!
# [16:10] <mak> MarcoZ: that's the best way to introduce regressions, let the user think it's his fault :)
# [16:11] <glob> i've also been seeing loads of hangs (daily) bug 722226 has my backtraces
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# [16:11] <MarcoZ> mak: I've seen those while composing new posts in WordPress HTML editor (not wYSIWYG) yesterday and today, more or less reliably several times while working.
# [16:12] <mak> MarcoZ: this hang happens after exiting idle, once a day, so may not be the same thing
# [16:12] <MarcoZ> mak: And yes, I really thought this was someithing on my system, since I just switched work machines last week. :)
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# [16:12] <MarcoZ> mak: Interesting...
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# [16:19] <@bsmedberg> MarcoZ: pong
# [16:21] <@bsmedberg> gotta reboot
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# [16:21] <Yoric> gavin: ping
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# [16:24] <MarcoZ> bsmedbDid you get my message gerading the password problem in the status reporting tool you wrote?
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# [16:25] <MarcoZ> Oops darn :)
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# [17:00] <jwatt> mak: what steps did you go through to discover that dromaeo-DOM regression?
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# [17:00] <mak> jwatt: tree-management pointed it out, and I checked if the range was correct on graphs.m.o
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# [17:02] <jwatt> mak: let me ask a different question - how would I discover that regression without looking at tree-management?
# [17:02] <jwatt> what steps would I go through?
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# [17:02] <mak> jwatt: you should manually look at graphs.mozilla.org for regressions
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# [17:02] <mak> tree-management just automates that
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# [17:03] <mak> sometimes correctly, sometimes wrongly
# [17:03] <jwatt> oh
# [17:03] <mak> so, it's better to look at tree-management, either the ng or the mailing list
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# [17:03] <mak> that's the old and slow version
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# [17:04] <jwatt> so I also looked at http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/index.html?oldRevs=6234bb0a5f42&newRev=683c21514e28&tests=dromaeo_dom&submit=true
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# [17:04] <jwatt> but that just looks like noise
# [17:04] <hsivonen> roc: why limit -webkit-CSS support to mobile? Chrome is eating our lunch on desktop and WebKit-only desktop stuff is popping up
# [17:05] <hsivonen> e.g. TweetDeck
# [17:05] <hsivonen> though there may be non-CSS reasons for it to be WebKit-only
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# [17:06] <mak> jwatt: you can't rely on that compare-talos cause the push got PGO builds, while the previous push didn't and it gets confused
# [17:07] <mak> jwatt: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[73,131,14]]&sel=1328582827405.77,1328630375973&displayrange=7&datatype=running
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# [17:07] <jwatt> mak: thanks
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# [17:08] <mak> it's the same
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# [17:08] <mak> before graph was pointing to old, now it points to new
# [17:08] <mak> though, may be confusing
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# [17:09] <@smaug> hsivonen: are we adding -webkit-* ?
# [17:09] <ejpbruel> do we need firebug to use the new developer tools in FF10?
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# [17:10] <hsivonen> smaug: for mobile at least, it looks like it from the CSS WG minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Feb/0313.html
# [17:10] <cmr> ejpbruel: huh?
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# [17:10] <jwatt> mak: if I can't rely on compare-talos, how would I check for regressions from a Try run?
# [17:11] <ejpbruel> cmr: yeah, i know. some guy i know on twitter just made that statement, but i suspect he might be wrong :)
# [17:11] <mak> jwatt: push twice, once with the patch, once without it, and compare those
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# [17:11] <cmr> ejpbruel: I don't even understand the question
# [17:11] <@smaug> hsivonen: ah
# [17:11] <@smaug> looking
# [17:11] <jwatt> mak: ok, thanks for your help
# [17:12] <mak> yw
# [17:12] <@smaug> hsivonen: horrible. but web sucks occasionally
# [17:12] <ejpbruel> cmr: i think he probably means that we still need firebug to do debugging in firefox?
# [17:12] <cers> ejpbruel: if I understand the question, the answer is no
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# [17:14] <cmr> The devtools aren't quite up to the level that firebug is.
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# [17:15] <hsivonen> smaug: what's horrible is that other browsers have cooperated with giving WebKit a competitive advantage due to an unlevel playing field for this long
# [17:15] <@smaug> hsivonen: well, webkit should just remove prefixed properties at some point
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# [17:16] <ejpbruel> cmr: thanks
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# [17:16] <cmr> They certainly aren't replacing firebug for me, not yet.
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# [17:19] <sheppy> So what release is the Accept-Charset header removal really in? 11?
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# [17:19] <hsivonen> sheppy: 10
# [17:19] <sheppy> hsivonen: Oh. OK.
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# [17:20] <hsivonen> smaug: I think other vendors shouldn't rely on the benevolence of WebKit
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# [17:21] <@smaug> hsivonen: I guess so
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# [17:23] <sheppy> hsivonen: is it outright never sent, or is it still sent if a specific charset is being requested?
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# [17:24] <cers> cmr: that's true - but you don't need firebug to use the builtin ones - which is how I read that statement
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# [17:34] <sheppy> hsivonen: yeah, that's what I thought. so we just expect everything to be utf-8 now.
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# [18:01] <edmorley> looks like telemetry is being tarred with the MetricsDataPing brush too now... :-( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/07/mozilla_telemetry_controversy/
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# [18:02] <no_gravity> Hello! My Thunderbird always hangs after "connected to imap.my.domain" is there some log where i can see what it is doing and what is going wrong?
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> Standard8, maybe?
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# [18:03] <Standard8> no_gravity: thunderbird support is generally on #thunderbird, but you want https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
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# [18:04] <Ms2ger> bz, well, my compiler doesn't warn for unused arguments, so I don't mind those :)
# [18:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
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# [18:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: I'm not worried about warnings for now
# [18:04] * Waldo wonders what the antecedent to that was
# [18:04] <Ms2ger> Waldo, private email, sorry :)
# [18:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: just trying to make sure the pushed code _builds_ is enough of a problem
# [18:05] <Waldo> this is true
# [18:05] <@bz> Waldo: the question is whether the in-progress generated C++ for the new DOM bindings should be warning-free at this point
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# [18:05] <no_gravity> Standard8: ok, will try that
# [18:05] <@bz> Waldo: "this point" being before it can actually call into gecko or anything. ;)
# [18:05] * Waldo would think yes
# [18:05] <Waldo> broken windows and all
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# [18:05] <@bz> Waldo: so it can take the argv and convert to gecko-type args on the stack, but can't make the call
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# [18:05] <@bz> Waldo: so for example all those things on the stack are actually unuse
# [18:06] <@bz> er, unused
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# [18:07] <Ms2ger> bz, fwiw, I'd fixed the issue bug 723111 was backed out for in dom-bindings because I got a warning for the caller mrbkap missed
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> philor, seems like bug 705614 is fixed on trunk?
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# [18:08] <Waldo> also, glandium is my hero for fixing that, since I'd have next to no idea how to do it myself
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# [18:11] <gcp> edmorley: I used the "send a correction" link
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# [18:35] <Ms2ger> gcp, hah, did you expect journalists to not print things they can reasonably be expected to know are lies?
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# [18:36] * @khuey read that as nativity-tree
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# [18:37] <gcp> You could alternative read my post as "gee, what an *idiot*".
# [18:37] <gcp> Only a bad person would do that, though.
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# [18:42] <gcp> Apple users, do you see which apps get updated on Mac OS?
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# [18:44] <@bsmedberg> apps get updated?
# [18:44] * @bsmedberg wonders what gcp means exactly
# [18:44] <@bz> gcp: "sometimes"
# [18:44] <@bz> gcp: what do you mean, really?
# [18:45] <@bz> hrm
# [18:45] <@bz> what happend to NS_MAX?
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# [18:45] <@khuey> bz: nothing?
# [18:45] <@bz> Oh
# [18:45] <@bz> this file doesn't include the right header
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# [18:45] <@bz> ok, then
# [18:46] <gcp> can you see if Chess.App got updated recently?
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# [18:47] <imphil> previously when building in-tree addons with e.g. --enable-extensions=default,xforms the extension would be enabled by default, now it's by default disabled in the addon manager when I start firefox from objdir. Question is: How do I enable the addon when running mochitest?
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# [18:47] <Ms2ger> bz, so would http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCQuickStubs.cpp#475 work if obj is a new binding object?
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# [18:49] <josh> bz: I found the bug that was causing us to not create object frames.
# [18:49] <@bz> Ms2ger: looking
# [18:49] <@bz> josh: oh?
# [18:49] <@bz> Ms2ger: no
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# [18:49] <glandium> Waldo: speaking of that bug, my next iteration gets rid of Assertions.cpp in assembler/wtf
# [18:50] <@bz> Ms2ger: why do we need it to?
# [18:50] <Waldo> glandium: nice
# [18:50] <@bz> Ms2ger: oh, for xpc_qsThrowGetterSetterFailed
# [18:50] <Ms2ger> bz, dunno if we do, .. What you said
# [18:50] <@bz> Ms2ger: sounds like we need to not use that and instead hardcode the ThrowCallFail call
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# [18:50] <@bz> Ms2ger: with our own info
# [18:50] * Waldo thinks it's pretty ridiculous that the way we build requires files in different directories to have different names, sometimes
# [18:50] <glandium> Waldo: it builds fine on linux within and outside of Gecko. I have to check windows.
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# [18:51] <@bz> Ms2ger: want to push an XXX comment to that effect to the codegen?
# [18:51] <@bz> Ms2ger: or a fix?
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# [18:51] <Waldo> red-headed stepchild
# [18:51] * @bz doesn't have a working tree to push from to that tree right now
# [18:51] <glandium> Waldo: the js case is actually that we build things from different directories from js/src
# [18:51] <josh> bz: notice how we fail to set mType to plugin in this block
# [18:51] <josh> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsObjectLoadingContent.cpp#873
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# [18:51] <Ms2ger> bz, I'll start with an XXX :)
# [18:52] <josh> prior to that when we detect a new type we did UnloadContent to clean up anything old, and that sets the type to NULL, and it is being left that way which is why the frame constructor sees NULL and doesn't create an object frame
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# [18:52] <glandium> Waldo: and, above all, because we use vpaths
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> bz, same for xpc_qsThrowMethodFailed, looks like
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# [18:55] <@bz> Ms2ger: :(
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# [18:55] <@bz> Ms2ger: thanks for catching that
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# [18:56] <Ms2ger> I think editor has some test framework that relies on those error messages
# [18:56] <Ms2ger> (It started failing when I removed nsIDOMNSHTMLDocument, IIRC)
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# [18:57] <Ms2ger> There seems to be a xpc_qsThrowMethodFailedWithDetails, so that's nice
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# [19:16] <jdm> akeybl: I'll send an email einstead
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# [19:22] <deLta30> Why am I getting this when I do "hg push -f ssh://hg.mozilla.org/try" :
# [19:22] <deLta30> remote: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
# [19:22] <deLta30> abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
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# [19:25] <beltzner> deLta30: that looks like it didn't like your ssh authentication
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# [19:25] * @bz finds weird browser bugs
# [19:26] <beltzner> bz: so it's a day that ends in "y"?
# [19:26] <@bz> somewhat like that
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# [19:26] <@bz> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1478339
# [19:26] <@bz> Guess who alerts "FAIL"? ;)
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# [19:27] <Ms2ger> Interesting
# [19:27] <Ms2ger> Chrome?
# [19:27] <@bz> yes
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# [19:28] <@bz> either v8 breakage or some sort of further weirdness in how they do those handlers...
# [19:28] <deLta30> beltzner: what might be the problem? I am pushing to try server for the first time
# [19:28] <kwierso> khuey: yup
# [19:28] <@khuey> kwierso: awesome, welcome aboard (again)
# [19:28] <@bz> we and opera and safari get ir right
# [19:28] <beltzner> deLta30: not sure, I don't do any hg-age
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# [19:28] <beltzner> just decoding your error message :)
# [19:28] <Ms2ger> We knew that Chrome has its setup there wrong, right?
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# [19:29] <@bz> yes, but not in ways that I thought should affect this
# [19:29] <@bz> though....
# [19:29] <@bz> maybe
# [19:29] <@bz> maybe
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> Have you been applying logic to browser behaviour, sir?
# [19:30] * @bz thinks he can create a simpler testcase
# [19:30] <@bz> one sec
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> It somewhat saddens me that I can reason about that test case
# [19:30] <@bz> heh
# [19:30] <@bz> it's a fun one
# [19:30] <@bz> one sec
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# [19:32] <imphil> deLta30, can you ssh hg.mozilla.org ? make sure you have your username and your keys set up correctly. when connecting with ssh to hg.mozilla.org you'll get sth like "no interactive shells allowed". If you get that, the push should work as well
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# [19:32] <@bz> hmm
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# [19:33] <@bz> modified testcase totally fails to work in Opera?
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# [19:33] <Ms2ger> Go Opera
# [19:33] <@bz> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1478347
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# [19:33] <Ms2ger> Nice
# [19:33] <@bz> in Opera I get "x is not a function"
# [19:34] <@bz> Safari and we pass this testcase
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> How about n.onclick()?
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# [19:34] <@bz> checking
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# [19:34] <deLta30> imphil: I am getting 'ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer' for 'ssh hg.mozilla.org'
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# [19:34] <@bz> same thing
# [19:34] <@bz> "not a function"
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> deLta30, wfm
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# [19:35] <jwir3> the new nightly home screen is strange
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# [19:35] <@bz> if I can find where...
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# [19:35] <imphil> deLta30, looks like your keys are not set up correctly. you can get more info with ssh -vvv hg.mozilla.org you might want to google for the error messages as well
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# [19:35] <Ms2ger> bz, http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/
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# [19:37] <jlebar> mccr8, smaug ping
# [19:37] <@bz> Ms2ger: thanks
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# [19:39] <mccr8> err pong
# [19:39] <@smaug> jlebar: pong
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# [19:39] <@khuey> cross pings
# [19:39] <jlebar> mccr8, smaug, https://metrics.mozilla.com/data/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics2&path=%2Ftelemetry&file=telemetryEvolution.wcdf
# [19:39] <jlebar> mccr8, smaug login telemetry, pass mozilla. Look at the cycle collector graph.
# [19:39] * @smaug crosses fingers if telemetry page loads today
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# [19:40] <jlebar> smaug, This is the public server, which has been working well for me all day.
# [19:40] <jlebar> smaug, This same graph did not load on the private server.
# [19:40] <@smaug> nothing in metrics.mozilla.com works well here usually
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# [19:40] <jlebar> smaug, I'll cc you on the bugs I file, so you can complain. :)
# [19:40] <mccr8> jlebar: what about it? I'm not good at interpreting these charts.
# [19:40] <jlebar> mccr8, It looks great!
# [19:41] <jlebar> mccr8, Before 11/15/11 on Nightly, we had many CC time outliers
# [19:41] <jlebar> Each dot is the mean of the CC pings for the day.
# [19:41] <mccr8> jlebar: ah, phew. That's what I thought, but I've been dealing with so many CC-related crises I assumed it must be something bad. ;)
# [19:41] <@khuey> heh
# [19:41] <jlebar> So a high dot for the day means we got lots of outlier pings.
# [19:41] <mccr8> yeah I wonder what happened on 11/15.
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# [19:41] <@smaug> jlebar: I'm waiting to get some new data
# [19:41] <@smaug> jlebar: all the interesting stuff landed end of Jan, early Feb
# [19:41] <jlebar> There's a slight decline in the last few days...maybe a week ago?
# [19:42] <jlebar> Well, something interesting landed on 11/15!
# [19:42] <mccr8> yeah I should look into that.
# [19:42] <jlebar> smaug, Preliminarily, the data from end of Jan, early Feb looks really good.
# [19:42] <@smaug> the most recent thing I see is 26-01
# [19:42] <jlebar> smaug, yes.
# [19:42] <mccr8> jlebar: as for recently, smaug landed a bunch of stuff on 1/30.
# [19:42] <jlebar> if you get the rollovers to work. :)
# [19:43] <mccr8> or around there. and some other stuff about 5 days before that.
# [19:43] <jlebar> I wonder why it takes them so long to get data in here.
# [19:43] <jlebar> :sigh, I'll file another bug.
# [19:43] <jlebar> Anyway, the progression is in the right direction. :)
# [19:44] <mccr8> yeah that's always good to see.
# [19:44] <jlebar> mccr8, now look at MEMORY_RESIDENT.
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# [19:44] <@smaug> jlebar: well, I'm a bit surprised ... that CC data looks mostly just random
# [19:45] <jlebar> smaug, Yeah, I'm filing a bug on that.
# [19:45] <@smaug> not many CC handling patches landed before end of Jan
# [19:45] <jlebar> smaug, I think it's because they use mean rather than median.
# [19:45] <jlebar> smaug, Oh, you mean that big drop?
# [19:45] <@bz> reporting bugs to opera is so annoying
# [19:45] <jlebar> smaug, There's gotta be an explanation for it. If it's not a CC patch, then something else.
# [19:45] <mccr8> yeah looks like memory started creeping up early jan...
# [19:45] <mccr8> too early for CC patches.
# [19:45] <jlebar> mccr8, yeah. Looks pretty bad. :(
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# [19:46] <@smaug> bz: it is very annoying. I think last time I tried, the form submission just failed
# [19:46] <Ms2ger> bz, yeah, I tend to poke people in #whatwg instead
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# [19:46] <mccr8> jlebar: johns found a spike in the last few days on areweslimyet, but I would guess that is somehow related to smaug's GC patch that was backed out. ;)
# [19:46] <@smaug> jlebar: there have been some patches
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# [19:47] <@smaug> mccr8: I'd like to try a new version of the patch
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# [19:48] <@smaug> mccr8: it should be very conservative
# [19:48] <kutsurak> jdm: ping
# [19:48] <mccr8> smaug: yeah I think what you said about being a little more aggressive about running globals is probably a good idea.
# [19:48] <jdm> kutsurak: hi
# [19:49] <kutsurak> jdm: Hi! I wanted to ask you something about Bug 716661
# [19:49] <jdm> mhm?
# [19:49] <@smaug> mccr8: it is a lot more aggressive when there are new page loads.
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# [19:49] <mccr8> smaug: oh, yeah that sounds like a good idea.
# [19:50] <@smaug> mccr8: the idea is that gc/cc times should stay hopefully lower when a page has been loaded
# [19:50] <@smaug> mccr8: when user is typing
# [19:50] <kutsurak> jdm: I was wondering what the purpose of NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS3 macro is, and if I should add nsSupportsWeakReference to it
# [19:50] <@smaug> mccr8: or when some animation is running
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# [19:51] <jdm> kutsurak: NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS# allows the class to be queried for the various interfaces listed
# [19:51] <jdm> kutsurak: in this case you should add nsISupportsWeakRefererence
# [19:51] <jdm> good catch!
# [19:51] <kutsurak> Thanks.
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# [19:54] <jhammel> bz: isn't that the point of twitter?
# [19:54] <nemo> bz: is interesting to me how tweet length evolved out of the SMS which evolved out of even older limits on ancient protocols
# [19:54] <jhammel> to cram your thought into 140 characters
# [19:54] <nemo> bz: but. yeah. they say they actually kinda like it now, in how it encourages that compactness. like haiku
# [19:54] <jhammel> besides, everyone knows that 80 characters is enough for anything
# [19:54] <nemo> hah
# [19:54] <smontagu> is it 140 characters or 140 octets?
# [19:54] <kutsurak> jdm: Ok, so, I inherited from nsISupportsWeakReference, changed the false to true in the AddObserver and changed the NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS3 to 4 adding the nsSupportsWeakReference. Do I need to implement any methods in nsDownloadManager?
# [19:54] <@bz> jhammel: yes, but makes it hard to quote something and respond
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# [19:55] <kutsurak> jdm: note that the code compiles so far...
# [19:55] <@bz> jhammel: and the "something" is not linkable easily in this cae. :(
# [19:55] <@bz> er, case
# [19:55] <nemo> smontagu: bytes, yes...
# [19:55] <jhammel> fwiw, i avoid twitter ;)
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# [19:55] <taras> bbondy: ping
# [19:55] <bbondy> taras: hi
# [19:55] <jdm> kutsurak: that sounds backwards. You should inherit from nsSupportsWeakReference and add the nsISupportsWeakReference to the macro
# [19:55] * @bz finds it gets more readers than his blog
# [19:55] <taras> bbondy: think we can hook into the windows "window not responding" stuff?
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# [19:56] <nemo> bz: you have a blog?
# [19:56] <taras> bbondy: seems like it might be good for chromehang
# [19:56] <bbondy> taras: don't know off hand, I can investigate
# [19:56] <@bz> nemo: heh
# [19:56] <smontagu> so it's broken by design for SMP?
# [19:56] <@bz> nemo: I don't blog that often
# [19:56] <taras> bbondy: regarding nslocalfile cleanup stuff, good effort
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# [19:56] <nemo> well perhaps that's why it doesn't get many readers :-p
# [19:56] <nemo> bz: I don't think I've seen you on PMO ever
# [19:56] <taras> we are writing a new api, cos that api is so broken from perspective of perf
# [19:57] <bbondy> thx :)
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# [19:57] <smontagu> or is it smart about capping at character boundaries?
# [19:57] <@bz> nemo: well, wait an hour or two. ;)
# [19:57] <jhammel> nemo: nah, blogs are just so 10 years ago
# [19:57] <kutsurak> jdm: yes, I mixed up the "I"s :)
# [19:57] <nemo> jhammel: what about IRC?
# [19:57] <@bz> nemo: fwiw, my last post was in Oct 2011
# [19:57] <jhammel> nemo: maybe if you're a nerd ;)
# [19:57] <bbondy> well it'll help in the short (possibly long) term
# [19:58] <jhammel> nemo: now if you made a web based irc thing with shiny buttons and CSS transitions using AJAX....
# [19:58] <nemo> jhammel: walled gardens are so much safer feeling. bonus points if they ditch protocols for requiring the full set of web everything to use 'em
# [19:58] <nemo> hehe
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# [20:00] <josh> bz, bsmedberg: new patch is on bug 723379, fixing the object frame creation bug makes the picture a lot more clear
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# [20:01] * @khuey really wishes we had source for Windows :-P
# [20:01] <bbondy> I wish that all the time
# [20:01] <nemo> didn't the windows source leak once? :)
# [20:01] <nemo> or a piece of it?
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# [20:01] <@khuey> heh
# [20:01] <bbondy> ya but I don't have it :(
# [20:01] * @khuey wonders
# [20:01] <bhearsum> i can see that driving everyone to the edge of sanity...
# [20:01] <nemo> I recall vaguely some analysis of it
# [20:02] <@khuey> it's kind of lame when HeapValidate tells you your heap is invalid
# [20:02] <nemo> that was mentioning special cases or somesuch specifically to ensure some MS software worked ok, like, oh, MS Office
# [20:02] <@khuey> and you have no idea why it says that
# [20:02] <nemo> must be nice to have that flexibility
# [20:02] <smontagu> be careful what you wish for
# [20:02] <nemo> API doesn't do what you want, change the API!
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# [20:02] <bhearsum> nemo: yeah, there was a whole bunch of special cases in windows 95 even for things like Simcity iirc, which depended on a particular bug in a particular api method
# [20:03] * smontagu saw some of the source of windows 3.1 back in the day, and it's ... not pretty
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# [20:03] <nemo> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795
# [20:03] <@khuey> bhearsum: it relied on use after free, if I remember my raymond chen lore correctly
# [20:03] <bhearsum> aaaah
# [20:03] <bhearsum> i was close
# [20:04] <nemo> bhearsum: heh. heap.c and swp.c have mention of access and office? that's scary.
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# [20:04] <nemo> anyway. I avoided it at the time out of fear of contamination
# [20:04] <nemo> I had no plan to work on kernel apart from small patches for stuff I needed to work, but, you know, just-in-case
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# [20:07] <kutsurak> jdm: OK, fixed. I'll see if it compiles and submit the patch on bugzilla. Thanks for your help :)
# [20:07] <jdm> nice :)
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# [20:08] <kutsurak> jdm: should I put you in the flag for review?
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# [20:08] <jdm> kutsurak: flag me for review, and I'll give it a once-over before I send it on to mak
# [20:08] <kutsurak> great! thanks :)
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# [20:10] <BenWa> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/2012-February-6
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# [20:14] <@stuart> is there any way to make the image viewer background white?
# [20:14] <@stuart> so i can actually see transparent images with dark text?
# [20:14] <@bz> mmm
# [20:14] <@bz> chrome for android
# [20:14] <@bz> stuart: "sorta"
# [20:14] <@bz> stuart: you can do it with a user stylesheet....
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# [20:14] <philikon> first screen: Sign in to Chrome
# [20:14] <@stuart> i was able to do it with the inspector thing
# [20:14] <@stuart> philikon: yep
# [20:15] <@bz> stuart: there's a bug on making the color configurable
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# [20:16] <Pike> wondering if we could detect a "smart" background color on averages or color histograms
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# [20:17] <nemo> Pike: probably pretty easily
# [20:17] <nemo> Pike: presumably similar to what the Rainbow addon is doing already
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# [20:17] <philikon> Pike: margaret had a dominant colours algorithm
# [20:18] <nemo> you wouldn't even need colour as much as brightness no?
# [20:18] <philikon> true
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# [20:18] <philikon> and alpha channel i guess
# [20:19] <nemo> If I choose Website Analyze in the rainbow addon and point it at, oh, http://m8y.org/images/temp.png I see that it reports 46.2% for the grey of the background colour, and 42.6% the navy blue
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# [20:19] <nemo> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rainbow-color-tools/
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# [20:20] <margaret> Pike, philikon: there was a bug filed about doing that and it turned out to not work well
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# [20:21] <@bz> Pike: not very well
# [20:21] <nemo> instead of using opposite colour just use a colour from white to black relative to the overall image brightness, excluding places with an alpha of like 5% or less
# [20:21] <nemo> I'm not sure why that wouldn't work
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# [20:30] <NeilAway> smontagu++
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# [20:32] <ohsix> is there something to turn on to disable runtime code generation, or at least generate the debug info for the frames so a profiler works
# [20:32] <smontagu> NeilAway: for being generally awesome? (and modest with it)
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# [20:33] <NeilAway> smontagu: no, for complaining that twitter only allows N octets
# [20:34] <smontagu> ah
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# [20:35] <@roc> hsivonen: well, let's do it first on mobile since the problems are most acute there.
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# [20:35] <@roc> hsivonen: plus, the Webkit-only desktop stuff involves a lot more issues (UA sniffing, H.264, etc)
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# [20:42] <sfink> ohsix: just the JS shell or the full browser?
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# [20:43] <@bz> nemo: how long does that take to determine?
# [20:43] <ohsix> the full browser, i don't expect the actual js contributions to be all that much; just trying to get some of the "random" numbers out of a perf record :>
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# [20:44] <sfink> ohsix: there are about:config settings to disable the jits. Search for 'jit'.
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# [20:45] <sfink> ohsix: I have some only slightly bitrotted patches to add JIT info for oprofile and gdb, but nothing for perf.
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# [20:49] <sfink> ohsix: I assume you're building yourself, or you've figured out how to get perf to find the separate symbols downloaded via fetch-symbols.py. (But that just fixes it for non-JITted code; it sounds like you're getting mostly good stuff, so I assume you're past that.)
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# [20:50] <@khuey> bbondy: I'm finding the ReactOS source to be pretty useful ;-)
# [20:50] <@khuey> bbondy: at least to figure out layout of data structures and stuff
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# [20:50] <ohsix> yea i'm using either the -dbg symbols from the ubuntu repo and their ff version, or firefox-trunk and it's -dbg symbols from the ppa, i had considered possibly needing to build it to get jit stuff to show up in the profiler, but i'm glad i don't have to
# [20:51] <bbondy> good to know, I'll grab a copy
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# [20:54] <past> smontagu: any chance you could take a look at bug 307039 any time soon?
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# [21:00] <smontagu> past: jfkthame seems more aware than me there
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# [21:01] <past> mind passing on the review then?
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# [21:03] <smontagu> past: done
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# [21:03] <nemo> bz: how long does it take to iterate over an array and accumulate a byte value? :)
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# [21:03] <nemo> bz: I imagine a fraction of a second?
# [21:04] <past> smontagu: thank you!
# [21:04] <nemo> bz: if you're really curious I could do a C snippet on my desktop iterating over a PBM and do a timing :-p
# [21:05] <nemo> well. I guess a PPM would be more accurate
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# [21:05] <@bz> nemo: was that a serious question?
# [21:05] <@bz> nemo: keeping in mind that the iteration is in JS?
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# [21:06] <@bz> nemo: and that you have to extract the array from the image?
# [21:06] <@bz> nemo: and that it's a 40MB array?
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# [21:06] <@bz> nemo: the answer can easily be "too long"
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# [21:06] <nemo> bz: well. I guess it depends at what level it is being done at
# [21:07] <@bz> nemo: the proposal was doing it in JS attached to the page
# [21:07] <nemo> 40 megabyte would be a 3238x3238 image
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# [21:07] <nemo> I imagine you could simply have a cutoff
# [21:07] <nemo> welp. I can do a JS timing of a canvas imageData test I 'spose
# [21:08] <nemo> make a canvas where the background-colour is set based upon image content
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# [21:08] <nemo> s/colour/color/ grr
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# [21:10] <nemo> could restrict adapting background to images no larger than 1280x960 - a 4.7MiB array with only 1.2 million iterations
# [21:10] <nemo> I bet most images w/ translucency are smaller than that
# [21:11] <nemo> could maybe even limit to images no larger than one million pixels
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# [21:11] <nemo> buuut fine. lemme make a test page :-p
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# [21:13] <nemo> or. limit adapting to a size relative to overall memory of the machine, whatever :)
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# [21:15] <@bz> nemo: no
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# [21:16] <@bz> nemo: 40MB is your bog-standard 10MP medium-quality modern digital camera image
# [21:16] <nemo> no as in I shouldn't make a test page?
# [21:16] <nemo> bz: which you wouldn't need an adaptive background on
# [21:16] <@bz> nemo: it's 3000 by 3000
# [21:16] <nemo> bz: because it would not be a translucent png
# [21:16] <nemo> for such an image, the default colour is appropriate
# [21:16] <nemo> the complaint was invisible text
# [21:16] <@bz> nemo: ah, interesting
# [21:16] <nemo> text pngs are usually much much smaller
# [21:16] <@bz> nemo: yeah, agreed
# [21:16] <nemo> bz: I'm making a 1024x1024 png w/ translucency now...
# [21:17] <nemo> and I have my test page half setup :)
# [21:18] <nemo> hm.
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# [21:19] <nemo> maybe I should not have made the test PNG a jpeg of the earth - thing will be way too large to compress efficiently and my poor machine will get hammered by curious clickers
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# [21:19] <nemo> ooh. I can use a schematic like http://hhscott.com/pdf/fs/233_299C.JPG - I bet that would display horribly right now without the white
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# [21:23] <nemo> bz: hm. there's still no imageData array for straight Image() objects, is there :-/
# [21:24] <nemo> I have to make a hidden canvas and set it to that
# [21:24] <nemo> just occurred to me that's a little inefficient...
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# [21:27] <nemo> hm. I can even use the relative weightings of RGB. yeah, this'll be fun
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# [21:29] <@bz> nemo: nope
# [21:29] <@bz> nemo: have to paint to a canvas
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# [21:31] <Fallen> why is the richtext editor on wiki.m.o always broken for me?
# [21:31] <Fallen> now I can't get it to disable either
# [21:32] <edmorley> Fallen: did the same for me; in prefs you can untick if you get stuck
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# [21:34] <mak> edmorley: planning a merge?
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# [21:34] <mak> edmorley: since I was evaluating to merge i to c
# [21:34] <edmorley> $ inbound-outstanding
# [21:34] <edmorley> 51
# [21:34] <edmorley> yeah looks in need again
# [21:34] <mak> edmorley: my latest push is green and pgo
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# [21:35] <edmorley> I'm happy to do, or if you were going to do anyway?
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# [21:35] <mak> edmorley: if you could do it would be awesome, otherwise I will
# [21:36] <edmorley> sure :-)
# [21:36] <mak> likely also merging the latest merge from fx-team down to inbound may be nice
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# [21:36] <mak> later
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# [21:37] <lurking_work> mak: latest fx-team already merged to m-c, so if you merge m-c->m-i, it;ll be there no ?
# [21:37] <nemo> bz: I bet this would be a lot faster in webgl :D
# [21:37] <@bz> nemo: maybe
# [21:37] <mak> lurking_work: yes, I meant that! sorry
# [21:38] <lurking_work> np
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# [21:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: amusing, no?
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# [21:45] <@smaug> I wonder if it was easier to just modify XBL2
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# [21:46] <Fallen> edmorley: does unsticking it actually fix it? Interestingly enough, the intranet wiki rich editor works for me, but not wiki.m.o
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# [21:46] <Ms2ger> "Region Event Targets dispatch regionLayoutUpdate events"
# [21:46] <Ms2ger> Wait, what?
# [21:47] <Ms2ger> And why does "Event Targets" link to http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#glossary-event?
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# [21:47] <edmorley> Fallen: it didn't fix the rich editor, but let me actually edit again using plaintext, which was the main thing
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# [21:56] <AryehGregor> Should I be pushing things to the tryserver before marking them checkin-needed, in general? If so, should I wait until my tryserver account is created before I mark anything more checkin-needed?
# [21:56] <Ms2ger> Yes; no
# [21:56] <AryehGregor> . . . then what should I do?
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# [21:56] <AryehGregor> (until my tryserver account is created)
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# [21:57] <heycam> AryehGregor, you can use the new autoland feature! put "[autoland]" in the whiteboard field of your bug
# [21:57] <AryehGregor> . . . what does that do?
# [21:57] <heycam> AryehGregor, and a bot will come along and push it to try for you
# [21:57] <lsblakk> AryehGregor, heycam someone has to have permissions to push to try though
# [21:57] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [21:57] <heycam> lsblakk, the reviewer, is that right?
# [21:57] <lsblakk> so you would need an r+ on your patches
# [21:57] <lsblakk> yes
# [21:58] <AryehGregor> Yes, I have.
# [21:58] <AryehGregor> Okay, let me do that.
# [21:58] <lsblakk> cool
# [21:58] <lsblakk> AryehGregor: see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:Autoland
# [21:58] * heycam loves autoland
# [21:58] <lsblakk> :)
# [21:58] <Ms2ger> I can r+ in case you don't have the flag set on the attachment you need tried
# [21:58] <kutsurak> !seen khuey
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# [21:58] <Ms2ger> ^Such a nice guy
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# [21:59] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, I have it, no problem.
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# [21:59] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, btw, is there a way to autoland patches from multiple bugs in one push?
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# [22:00] <lsblakk> Ms2ger: no, and that is not a goal for this quarter
# [22:00] <@khuey> kutsurak: hi
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# [22:01] <kutsurak> khuey: hey
# [22:01] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, so is the list of attachment IDs cross-checked with the bug they're attached to? :)
# [22:01] <kutsurak> I wanted to talk to you about the patch I submited last week
# [22:01] <@khuey> ok
# [22:01] <lsblakk> actually, i don't think they are - interesting possible workaround^^ mjschranz
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# [22:02] <lsblakk> sorry mjschranz, unping - i was trying to ping mjessome ^^
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# [22:02] <@khuey> kutsurak: what about it?
# [22:02] <kutsurak> I mean bug 702388, I missed some files, so I did a made a new patch
# [22:03] <lsblakk> Ms2ger in that case you might be able to specify other attachment ids (right now, we will have to investigate whether cross-checking should happen) but the reporting would only come to the bug where the whiteboard tag is set
# [22:03] <kutsurak> but I was wondering about one specific file
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# [22:03] <kutsurak> $ROOT/layout/Makefile.in
# [22:03] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, mm
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# [22:03] <mjessome> ehy are crosschecked, actually.
# [22:04] <mjessome> s/ehy/they
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# [22:04] <Ms2ger> mjessome, boo :)
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# [22:04] <AryehGregor> Should patches be submitted to the try server before or after review? Also, how do I decide whether to run all tests or only some?
# [22:04] <kutsurak> There are two instances of DIRS += <foo> inside ifdef ENABLE_TESTS
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# [22:04] <@khuey> kutsurak: I wouldn't touch that one, it's doing some crazy stuff
# [22:04] <Mossop> AryehGregor: I would do it before to save the reviewers time if you find errors
# [22:04] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [22:04] <kutsurak> Ah ok. Thanks :)
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# [22:05] <Mossop> As for tests, pick the smaller set that you think the changes could affect. If in doubt run them all
# [22:05] <@khuey> kutsurak: np
# [22:05] <@khuey> kutsurak: thanks for patching that btw
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I tend to run all tests, unless there's a particular test I'm investigating
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# [22:05] <kutsurak> OK, I'll see if the new patch compiles and resubmit :)
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# [22:05] <AryehGregor> So it's not like tryserver time is limited and running all tests might slow down other people's work or such?
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Well, it will
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# [22:06] <Ms2ger> But we're used to that :)
# [22:06] <AryehGregor> Hmm, okay.
# [22:06] <kutsurak> khuey: np. It was not a lot of work anyway, some regexp and emacs ;)
# [22:06] <AryehGregor> Then when it going to -incoming, all tests are always run, right?
# [22:06] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [22:06] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [22:06] <@bz> AryehGregor: for that patch, I'd skip the perf tests and run all correctness tests
# [22:07] <AryehGregor> bz, which, the origin serialization thing?
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# [22:07] <lsblakk> AryehGregor: you can put try syntax in your whiteboard tag for autoland
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# [22:07] <Ms2ger> Having a try run is useful in case sheriffs are looking for someone to blame for breakage, and you're in the suspicious range
# [22:08] <Jesse> Ms2ger: i was trying to paste from iTerm2 and as far as i could tell nothing happened. i didn't realize it had pasted an invisible character.
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# [22:08] <@bz> AryehGregor: I was thinking the transform computed style patch
# [22:08] <AryehGregor> bz, right. Will do.
# [22:08] <@bz> AryehGregor: but similar for most core changes. ;)
# [22:08] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> Jesse, I was rather confused that bugzilla didn't link it
# [22:08] <Jesse> Ms2ger: me too
# [22:09] <Jesse> i was thinking "was i just That Guy who mentions a bug number without 'bug' to link it?"
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# [22:12] <ejpbruel> oh man, chrome is available for android now?
# [22:12] <ejpbruel> did anyone check it out already?
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# [22:14] <ericjung> anyone in poland?
# [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ede0d3cd7e3a - Serge Gautherie - Bug 725045. (Av1) pushPrefEnv() param is "clear" not "remove". r=jmaher.
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# [22:16] <nemo> bz: *sigh* sometimes. I do something reallly stupid
# [22:16] <nemo> and it burns a lot of time
# [22:16] <nemo> bz: like trying to figure out why all my values are 0 when my input image was black :(
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# [22:16] <Ms2ger> nemo++
# [22:16] * nemo sobs
# [22:16] <edmorley> ahhhh, why didn't I set up some inbound merging functions in my /profile sooner, this is much easier :-)
# [22:16] <edmorley> .profile even
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# [22:18] <gaston> ejpbruel: isn't the default android browser already a variant of chrome ?
# [22:18] <@bz> nemo: heh
# [22:18] <ejpbruel> gaston: yeah, i was just thinking that
# [22:18] <ejpbruel> gaston: this isnt as big news as it would seem :)
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# [22:18] <ehsan_xchat> Ms2ger, ping
# [22:19] <Ms2ger> pong
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# [22:19] <ehsan_xchat> Ms2ger, heya, do you think you'll be willing to work on bug 590640?
# [22:19] <mak> edmorley++
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# [22:19] <jesup> !seen jduell
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# [22:20] <jduell_> jesup: reports of my demise are exaggerated by firebot
# [22:20] <Ms2ger> ehsan_xchat, a bug with a community? :)
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# [22:21] <ehsan_xchat> Ms2ger, well, you've worked on editor some and the thunderbird folks are badly hurt by this
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# [22:21] <Ms2ger> I have no idea how editor works, though :)
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# [22:22] <jhammel> no one does ;)
# [22:22] <jduell> ah, that's better
# [22:22] <ehsan_xchat> Ms2ger, I can help answer questions :)
# [22:22] <Ms2ger> jhammel, thank you for that helpful comment :)
# [22:22] <ehsan_xchat> Ms2ger, but you can say no too :)
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# [22:22] <Ms2ger> Oh, I can? Alright! :)
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# [22:22] <ehsan_xchat> heh, fair enough :)
# [22:23] <Ms2ger> Also, I believe bz has work for me too... :)
# [22:23] <@bz> aryeh: bah!
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# [22:23] <AryehGregor> bz, ?
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# [22:24] <@bz> AryehGregor: I didn't want that transforms review. ;)
# [22:24] <AryehGregor> Don't blame me. :)
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# [22:24] <@bz> yeah
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# [22:24] * AryehGregor currently tends to ask for review from whoever reviewed the patch he's following up on, if applicable
# [22:24] <@bz> r=me
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# [22:24] <@bz> yeah
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# [22:24] <@bz> that's a good policy
# [22:24] <@bz> I took roc's reassignment as him being ok with the general idea
# [22:24] <Ms2ger> bent, :(
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# [22:25] <bent> ah, that's better
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# [22:26] <Callek> jlebar: Oooo I thought that blog post was yours
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# [22:28] <Callek> bah my cZ command history and scrollback here don't tell me now
# [22:28] <josh> Are we still having issues using hg (cloning) over HTTP?
# [22:29] <edmorley> Have I just missed announcements up until now, or is this just brand new? http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2012/02/chrome-for-android-beta-1.html
# [22:29] <Mossop> Pretty new, out today
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# [22:30] <edmorley> sorry, I wasn't very clear, I meant the concept of Chrome for Android
# [22:30] <gps> Unfocused, Mossop: under what conditions will addon.sourceURI be null after an AddonRepository search?
# [22:30] <Mossop> edmorley: Oh, no they've been talking about that for a while I think
# [22:30] <@khuey> edmorley: we've known it was coming for a while
# [22:30] <edmorley> oh
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# [22:31] <Mossop> gps: Off the top of my head maybe when it doesn't support the current platform. We also used to support add-ons not hosted on AMO but I think that's gone away now
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# [22:31] <gps> Mossop: thanks
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# [22:35] <aja> what, no Chrome for iOS?
# [22:36] <@bz> aja: lol
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# [22:36] <@khuey> people on hackernews were asking that same question
# [22:36] <@bz> people don't realize how effing locked down iOS is
# [22:36] <@stuart> one step at a time
# [22:37] <jtcranmer> Apple can be best described as an obssessive control freak
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# [22:37] <gcp> I said something about walled gardens and was on -1 before I knew it.
# [22:37] <gcp> Apple fanboys. Bah!
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# [22:38] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase242.xhtml
# [22:38] <nemo> bz: boss had me doing useful stuff, sooo, that + silliness took a while
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# [22:39] <cmr> 188ms isn't bad at all
# [22:39] <nemo> cmr: 22ms here, on my laptop, in Firefox 13
# [22:39] <cmr> And that's while compiling gcc, on a laptop!
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# [22:39] <nemo> cmr: 19ms on my desktop
# [22:39] <cmr> ff10
# [22:39] <cmr> nemo: also not bad
# [22:40] <cmr> 65ms when gcc isn't compiling
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# [22:43] <cmr> nemo: either way, it's not a lot of time.
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# [22:44] <nemo> cmr: that's also doing a luminance calc which is probably way overkill
# [22:44] <nemo> cmr: most likely simply doing r + g + b /3 is more than adequate
# [22:45] <nemo> after all, most of the time you just want to know "light background or dark background"
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# [22:46] <nemo> hrm. not that removing luminance made any significant difference in the time :)
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# [22:48] <Bas> gcp bz: You have to be highly impressed with Apple marketing though :P They're the only company ever to get away with this crap :)
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# [22:48] <cmr> nemo: it's taking its sweet time with http://www.worldcontinuitycongress.com/wcc08/images/stories/WCC_SG_2011/Exhibitors_logo/Genesis_Network_CMYK_Logo_Transparent.gif
# [22:48] <@bz> Bas: indeed
# [22:49] <cmr> Which is >=70 Megapixels
# [22:49] <jhammel> Bas: you forget MS in the mid-90s?
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# [22:49] <@bz> jhammel: Windows back then was nowhere close to as locked down as iOS
# [22:49] <@bz> jhammel: and wasn't trying to be
# [22:50] <nemo> cmr: heh. well. that's why there should be sanity limits :-p
# [22:50] <cmr> nemo: I'll tell you when it finished ;)
# [22:50] <nemo> cmr: if (image.naturalWidth*image.naturalHeight > 1000000) { /* use default */ }
# [22:50] <nemo> heh
# [22:51] <mcsmurf> we do have a size limit iirc
# [22:51] <mcsmurf> it's just a bit bigger ;)
# [22:51] <mcsmurf> either 32k or 64k pixels in one direction
# [22:52] <cmr> That is a lot of pixels
# [22:52] <jwir3> hm. so I have a crashtest that, when I load it into the browser proper, crashes the browser with a segfault. but, when I load it using the crashtest framework, it doesn't crash, or even throw assertions. I am using the line "load xxxxxx.html" in my crashtest.list file. any idea what I'm doing wrong and why this doesn
# [22:52] <jwir3> doesn't fail the crashtest?
# [22:52] <mcsmurf> 74 const PRInt32 k64KLimit = 0x0000FFFF;
# [22:52] <mcsmurf> 75 if (NS_UNLIKELY(aWidth > k64KLimit || aHeight > k64KLimit )) {return false }
# [22:53] <nemo> mcsmurf: yeah, I've run into it on minecraft maps :)
# [22:53] <mcsmurf> heh
# [22:53] <nemo> mcsmurf: oddly, whether the image was jpeg or png seemed to matter for loading purposes. so I assume there must be some other checks in there
# [22:53] <nemo> mcsmurf: eog was a bit more forgiving, and gimp even more so
# [22:54] <nemo> but. yeah, large images are a nice lil' logic bomb
# [22:54] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ping
# [22:54] <nemo> often times accidentally thrown by websites who have designers who thing the best way to get a strip is to use a really really big image as a background
# [22:55] <nemo> s/strip/stripe/
# [22:56] <nemo> cmr:
# [22:56] <nemo> Finished in: 7680ms. Average brightness of 248.6690816535112
# [22:56] <nemo> cmr: for your gif
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# [22:57] <nemo> cmr: basically same speed in FF13 - 7639ms
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# [22:58] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase242b.xhtml is a test of the insanely large image cmr linked to (click switch image)
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# [22:59] <jduell> ehsan_xchat: ping
# [22:59] <nemo> 9921 x 7016 so 265.5 MiB
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# [23:00] <nemo> and of course, since a canvas was necessary, that's really 531MiB for both image and canvas
# [23:00] <nemo> I suppose really 796.6MiB since getImageData makes a copy
# [23:00] <nemo> but one would hope that the canvas + imagedata could be skipped when done inside the browser
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# [23:02] <nemo> cmr: your image is also a better worse case 'cause it has more non-transparent pixels, I'm guessing that's why the circuit diagram averaged 48k pixels per ms while the gif averaged 9k
# [23:02] <cmr> nemo: mine is still going, heh
# [23:02] <nemo> huh. although... the image of the earth was also fast. hrm
# [23:03] <nemo> maybe just a delay based on size
# [23:03] <cmr> Actually I don't even know if it's going.
# [23:03] <nemo> cmr: must be swapping. my system has 16GiB of ram :-p
# [23:03] <Bas> jhammel: As bz said, MS was never even close to being as locked down as iOS, they abused their market position in a couple of cases, but didn't have an openly sustained policy to lock a market down.
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# [23:03] <nemo> cmr: given your speed before, it should have finished in like 30 seconds
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# [23:03] <cmr> nemo: I may have done it wrong, I just switched the src of #i
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# [23:03] <nemo> cmr: er.
# [23:04] <nemo> cmr: did you copy the file locally?
# [23:04] <cmr> No
# [23:04] <nemo> cmr: remember, getImageData across domains requires CORS
# [23:04] <cmr> Ahhh
# [23:04] <nemo> cmr: use m8y.org/tmp/testcase242b.xhtml instead - I hosted it locally. click switch image
# [23:04] <nemo> !@#$ protocol hiding :(
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# [23:04] <nemo> (that was supposed to have http:// at start)
# [23:04] <nemo> hate it hate it hate it!
# [23:05] <nemo> (I clicked on url, hit home, shift, end, ctrl-c)
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# [23:05] <nemo> oh. I know why it is failing, because I added a "b" in there :D
# [23:05] <nemo> well. I still hate it.
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# [23:06] <cmr> X is using as much memory as firefox, something is wrong
# [23:06] <cmr> nemo: 19592ms
# [23:06] <nemo> cmr: that shouldn't be abnormal in Firefox 10
# [23:06] <nemo> cmr: after all. it has to render the actual page view too
# [23:06] <nemo> xrender and all that
# [23:07] <Bas> nemo: I might be wrong, but CORS is WebGL related, which decides if you -can- load certain things cross domain at all, not readback specific. And on Canvas getImageData is simply disallowed on a tainted context, right?
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# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: um. that's what I mean
# [23:07] <Bas> Canvas 2D doesn't work with CORS yet, does it?
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# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: what? it doesn't??
# [23:07] <jwir3> hm, so it seems like I need the crashtest to do more than just load the page. it actually needs to wait for a second or two. is this functionality possible in a crashtest?
# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: you're kidding.
# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: I'm pretty sure you're wrong
# [23:07] <Bas> nemo: Maybe I'm all wrong!
# [23:07] <Bas> I don't work on the permission side of canvas :)
# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: because several webgl demos made by Google and others, stitch together in 2D first
# [23:07] <Bas> bjacob: Does Canvas2D support CORS?
# [23:07] <nemo> before writing to 3D
# [23:07] <nemo> Bas: and that actually failed in older versions of Firefox
# [23:08] <nemo> Bas: like. 9 supports but 8 didn't, or something like that
# [23:08] <Bas> nemo: Oh good, that changed then :)
# [23:08] <Bas> I guess.
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# [23:08] <edmorley> taras: spotted a missing </ul> on slide div id="ts1"
# [23:09] <edmorley> (fosdem slides)
# [23:09] <nemo> cmr: so anyway, *I* think this is very doable for reasonably sized images, and I think it'd be nice if Firefox did it :)
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# [23:09] <nemo> cmr: so add it! :D
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# [23:10] <nemo> cmr: another thought for large images, might be that you could only analyse a chunk that is no bigger than 1024x1024
# [23:10] <nemo> or even 512x512
# [23:10] <nemo> cmr: that would probably be an adequate sample size most of the time
# [23:11] <nemo> just stick to a million or quarter million pixels. then you'd keep the memory usage a lot lower
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# [23:12] <Bas> nemo: I'm wrong, you're right :) Your canvas won't be tainted if your image source has the right CORS permission.
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# [23:12] <cmr> nemo: yeah, probably.
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# [23:12] <nemo> cmr: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase242c.xhtml <- this version clamps to 512
# [23:12] <nemo> cmr: try it on your large image again :D
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# [23:12] <nemo> Finished in: 6ms. Average brightness of 248.68324401116732
# [23:12] <nemo> Finished in: 5ms. Average brightness of 0
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# [23:13] <cmr> 12ms
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# [23:13] <nemo> cmr: additadditaddit!
# [23:13] <cmr> nemo: ME add it?
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# [23:13] <cmr> Why me?
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# [23:13] <nemo> cmr: you asked for it earlier, no?
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# [23:13] <cmr> No
# [23:13] <nemo> and I assume you know more about the code of firefox than I
# [23:13] <taras> edmorley: thanks
# [23:13] <nemo> that's pretty much how it works here.
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# [23:14] <nemo> oh. it was stuart who asked for it
# [23:14] <cmr> I barely know anything besides some DOM code I poked at early but I'll take a shot.
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# [23:14] <nemo> and philikon who said that it wouldn't work (which I think is not true :-p )
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# [23:14] <taras> edmorley: fixed, why were you looking at html?
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# [23:14] <nemo> stuart: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase242c.xhtml <- add something like this to firefox plz thnx
# [23:15] <edmorley> taras: liked the slide deck so was being nosy and view source highlighted the </div> in red
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# [23:29] <nemo> stuart: which means you'll add it? :D
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# [23:33] <@stuart> nemo: they don't let me write code anymore
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# [23:34] <nemo> pshaw
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# [23:35] <nemo> stuart: http://www.pavlov.net/ <- you?
# [23:36] <@stuart> si
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# [23:36] <nemo> lot of dead links
# [23:36] <@stuart> hah yeah
# [23:36] <cmr> Beautiful artwork
# [23:36] <@khuey> stuart: is the unix version as fast as the windows version yet? :-P
# [23:36] <cmr> Better than mine, http://kb1pkl.me/
# [23:36] <@stuart> yes
# [23:37] <nemo> stuart: 4 dead links out 9. nice average
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# [23:37] <nemo> out of
# [23:37] <nemo> stuart: I avoid that by not linking to anything on my site :D
# [23:38] <bjacob> Bas: yes, since Firefocx 9
# [23:38] <Bas> bjacob: Thanks :)
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# [23:39] <jhammel> nemo: i avoid it by only linking to your site :P
# [23:39] <nemo> jhammel: clearly *someone* did that, since my site has been getting a ton of hits since the last release
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# [23:39] <jhammel> heh
# [23:40] <nemo> mostly to the http://m8y.org/tmp/cubiq.org/dropbox/3dcity/index2.html which is unfair to the poor dude who actually made it
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# [23:40] <nemo> of course, I did ask him multiple times over several months to add a full set of browser alternates
# [23:40] <nemo> hm. it does seem to work in firefox now - maybe I should setup a redirect
# [23:40] <NeilAway> wonders whether scaling an image to 1x1 would give you an accurate average luminance
# [23:40] <mcsmurf> whoa
# [23:41] <@stuart> yeah my website is kinda out of date
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# [23:41] <@stuart> but my logo is awesome
# [23:41] <@stuart> so, well, thats enough
# [23:41] <jhammel> stuart: yes it is
# [23:41] <nemo> NeilAway: heh. is that a faster operation on the canvas? :)
# [23:41] <jhammel> stuart: can i use it for my site? :P
# [23:41] <nemo> NeilAway: I wonder if the scaling alg would matter at all
# [23:41] <NeilAway> then invert that, and use it as a paint server for the background of the image document?
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# [23:41] <nemo> hm. I'd link to cubiq.org except they still haven't fixed the *first* demo. grrr
# [23:41] <@stuart> http://balsa.gnome.org/images/balsa-logo.jpg is my favorite
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# [23:42] <nemo> btw. http://m8y.org/tmp/cubiq.org/dropbox/3dcity/index.html still flickers oddly in firefox
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# [23:42] <nemo> and layers seem wrong
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# [23:42] <nemo> dude who was implementing the 3d transforms said something about spec oddities and platform inconsistencies...
# [23:43] <jhammel> stuart: i used to use http://k0s.org/logos/newspiral3.png which is pretty bad ass, just a bit big
# [23:43] <jhammel> and since i am a horrible designer ... ;)
# [23:44] <nemo> jhammel: jpeg
# [23:44] <nemo> or svg, come to think of it
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# [23:44] <jhammel> nemo: nah, i meant the image px size is big, not the file size
# [23:45] <jhammel> screen real-estate ;)
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# [23:45] <nemo> jhammel: it would be much smaller as a jpeg. I mean, assuming JNG hadn't been killed off, and any progress had been made on an alternative format amongst the several out there.
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# [23:46] <nemo> I guess the only one that seems to have any traction at all is google's new one cribbed off of a video frame w/ alpha slapped in
# [23:46] <jhammel> its only 708 k ;)
# [23:46] <nemo> jhammel: for a splash page that's big :-p
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