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# Session Start: Sat Feb 11 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:00] <mbrubeck> aja: What sort of cleanup?
# [00:01] <aja> tons of duplicate folder names, tons of adjacent dividers
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# [00:02] <mbrubeck> hmm, an AMO search finds https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bookmark-duplicate-detector/ but it's for Firefox 3.0. :(
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# [00:03] <kwierso> mbrubeck, aja: doesn't checkplaces do that stuff?
# [00:03] <jhammel> aja: are you using sync? i found sync has introduced a few artefacts in that department
# [00:04] <aja> every kind of nasty that sync ever had
# [00:04] <jhammel> kwierso: it certainly couldn't hurt
# [00:04] <jhammel> aja: heh, there you go
# [00:04] <jhammel> not that it fixes your problem, mind you :/
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# [00:04] <aja> and =pre-sync (forget what it was called before sync)
# [00:04] <kwierso> weave
# [00:04] <aja> yep....weave
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# [00:04] <kwierso> aja: try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkplaces/
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# [00:05] <aja> heh
# [00:05] <jhammel> kwierso: hmm, not available for nightly :/
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# [00:05] <kwierso> should still work, though
# [00:05] <kwierso> (at least, I've used it post-fx10
# [00:05] <kwierso> )
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# [00:06] <jhammel> i'll stubbornly install anyway
# [00:06] <jhammel> if it breaks my Firefox, by god! ... ;)
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# [00:07] <aja> fwiw, i have run places maintenance recently w/o probs
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# [00:11] <aja> perhaps i need to occasionally declare bookmark bankrupc...like with email. giving checkplaces a shot
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# [00:14] <kutsurak> Waldo: ping
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# [00:15] <Waldo> kutsurak: pong
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# [00:15] <kutsurak> Waldo: Hi, do you have some time to talk about Bug 507998?
# [00:16] <kutsurak> (the JSON.parse() error reporting)
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# [00:16] <Waldo> kutsurak: somewhat; want to move to #jsapi so other SpiderMonkey hackers can chime in?
# [00:16] <kutsurak> sure
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# [00:20] <jhammel> kwierso: CheckPlaces worked wonderfully...so wonderfully in fact that now i'm cleaning out my bookmarks instead of working
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# [00:22] <kwierso> hehe
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# [00:23] <jhammel> though now i have about 200 less ;)
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# [00:28] <philor> is it a problem when you fail so many reftests that the data: URLs overflow the max log size?
# [00:28] <philor> in related news, romaxa needs a backout :)
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# [00:29] <edmorley> philor: in progress :-)
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# [00:30] <edmorley> jhammel: how many?
# [00:32] <WG9s> is there a bug for this new 322 bytes leaked issue? seems to be coming up on a lot of builds
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# [00:33] <edmorley> 689247
# [00:33] <edmorley> :-)
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# [00:34] <edmorley> (or in my world: awesome bar -> con ; albeit not as amusing as some of philor's awesomebar associations)
# [00:36] <aja> welll...i have about 10% as many items in bookmarks as i had before checkplaces (and still have tons of dividers in there)
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# [00:37] <philor> yeah, that'd be "cac"
# [00:37] <philor> too many things can leak a condvar
# [00:38] <edmorley> bring on tbpl suggestions for leaks (and yeah, if only it were open source....)
# [00:39] <philor> if only we had any way of knowing one leak from another
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# [00:40] <edmorley> yey for Steam: "Recently we learned that it is probable that the intruders obtained a copy of a backup file with information about Steam transactions between 2004 and 2008. This backup file contained user names, email addresses, encrypted billing addresses and encrypted credit card information. "
# [00:41] <edmorley> to be fair, at least they've done full disclosure
# [00:42] <jgilbert> fun times for everyone
# [00:43] <WG9s> edmorley: so no wonder the issue does not match a bug summary cause the summary has leak of blah blah or blah which is never going to match anything. really useful
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# [00:44] <edmorley> quicksearch using one of the items it leaked, normally works
# [00:44] <bent> khuey, my full rebuilds hit this a lot: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1481973
# [00:44] <bent> khuey, any ideas?
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# [00:46] <@khuey> bent: nope
# [00:46] <@khuey> don't think I've seen that before
# [00:47] <WG9s> edmorley: but orangefactor bugs are aupposed to have a summary in a fomat that tbpl will match
# [00:47] <WG9s> this one is not even close
# [00:48] <WG9s> so if you want to be the onloy one starring this issue that is fine with me.
# [00:48] <philor> WG9s: and what is that format?
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# [00:50] <WG9s> NO speciall format just If a bug is marked orange factor it should be something that tbpl matches agains.
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# [00:50] <WG9s> just my opinion I could be wrong
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# [00:51] <philor> it's software, it doesn't really call for opinions so much as a description of what the code does
# [00:51] <RyanVM> jimm: Yep, it's --disable-parental-controls that's causing my breakage. Bizarre....
# [00:51] <WG9s> but then i took leaked 322 bytes and serched all of bugzilla and found zero matches so that is also an issue.
# [00:52] <WG9s> the summary of this bug should be sjuch that if you try to find it form an ornage build you actually can by looking at the log
# [00:53] <WG9s> serachtin gor leaked 322 matches in bugzuilla finds zero matches is what i am compalining about here
# [00:53] <WG9s> if there is already an orange bug on this then there is an issue.
# [00:53] <jgilbert> yeah, it's hard to figure out how to star some of them
# [00:54] <@khuey> why do you expect the exact number of bytes to match?
# [00:55] <@khuey> that vries from platform to platform
# [00:55] <@khuey> *varies, even
# [00:55] <WG9s> well my issue is the summay nees to be such that if tbpl does not find it hten at elast what you are likely to search on shoudl otherwise it si not a properly filed orangefactor bug.
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# [00:58] <WG9s> A proper ornagefactor bug either need to be automatically found by tbpl or be easiy found by what a normal person would search for based ont eh log
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# [00:59] <WG9s> this bug is non findable via a serc via either mans
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# [01:00] <WG9s> ok one more time
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# [01:00] <WG9s> this bug is non findable via a search using either means.\
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# [01:03] <WG9s> the issue i am complaining about is tbpl does not find a match and searching for leaked 322 bytes does not find anything either.
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# [01:05] <WG9s> So, if you want to keep starring builds to those who know the secret handshake I guess that is what you have, but I did not think that was how open source was supposed to work.
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# [01:09] <romaxa> hmmm google chrome crashes all the time on tbpl reftests analyzer
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# [01:10] <philor> DOS ain't done till Lotus won't run
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# [01:13] <romaxa> heh, safari crashes too
# [01:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dbaa3efa31fa - Joel Maher - Bug 726087 - Deploy a new talos.zip to fix the --ignore-first errors on a dataset of size 1. r=armenzg
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# [01:15] <aja> philor: know where i can get some blank 5 1/4 floppies?
# [01:15] <darktrojan> romaxa, put that stuff in a popular browser benchmark, stat!
# [01:15] <philor> aja: in the drawer by my left knee, as it happens, how many boxes, and do you need the write-protecting labels?
# [01:15] <aja> :)
# [01:15] <@dolske> aja: here, cut these 8" floppies down to size.
# [01:16] <romaxa> darktrojan: popular browser benchmark - where is that?
# [01:16] <jimm> RyanVM: you should file a bug, so we can fix that.
# [01:16] <philor> I'm not convinced that Firefox's unending stream of slow script dialogs is any better than a crash
# [01:16] * aja still has a green card in desk drawer, too
# [01:17] <darktrojan> romaxa, there must be one we can use somewhere to prove that gecko is superior to webkit
# [01:17] <RyanVM> jimm: Will do
# [01:17] <jimm> RyanVM: thx!
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# [01:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8b51d903ee0b - Olli Pettay - Bug 726007 - Add telemetry probes for forgetSkippable, r=mccr8
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# [01:21] <@smaug> imelven: I could feedback+/- the sandbox patch later this weekend
# [01:21] <@smaug> (sorry for the delay)
# [01:23] <imelven> smaug: no problem !
# [01:23] <imelven> smaug: i just put up a new version that addresses most of bz's feedback
# [01:24] <imelven> (and realized i forgot to actually try building it which im doing now ;( )
# [01:24] <imelven> smaug: ill feedback? the most recent one to you if thats cool
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# [01:26] <RyanVM> jimm: going to work on a regression range too. Right now all I have is a 5 day range (sucktastic)
# [01:26] <@smaug> imelven: yes, use feedback? so that I remember to actually read the patch
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# [01:28] <imelven> smaug: will do. thanks very much ! :)
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# [01:38] <smaugIC> .
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# [01:39] <jhammel> bash: .: filename argument required
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# [01:40] <@smaug> heh
# [01:40] <@smaug> just testing irccloud
# [01:40] <jhammel> evidently you can run bash commands using jhammel-bot
# [01:41] <@khuey> cat /etc/passwd
# [01:41] <@smaug> rm -Rf /*
# [01:42] <@dolske> crap, I meant to type that here but did it in my terminal!
# [01:42] <jhammel> lol, i hope you're joking
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# [01:42] <jhammel> khuey: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory *(did smaug remove it?)
# [01:43] <@dolske> did I not /nick dolske?
# [01:44] <jhammel> i don't know; /msg me your NickServe password and i will help you debug :P
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# [01:45] <kbrosnan> http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/5007
# [01:45] <NeilZZZ> philor++
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# [01:45] <jhammel> kbrosnan: heh, nice
# [01:46] <jhammel> i made a calculator like that once ;)
# [01:46] <jhammel> you'll notice it isn't running on my website "for some reason"
# [01:48] <edmorley> kbrosnan: I dread to think how the rest of that log went...
# [01:49] <jhammel> edmorley: not as long as eval("cat /urandom") ;)
# [01:49] <jhammel> er, /dev/urandom
# [01:49] <edmorley> :-)
# [01:49] <jhammel> which, btw cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp will get you the sweetest white noise you will ever hear ;)
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# [01:50] <jhammel> maybe you have to use dd, i can't recall
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# [01:52] <edmorley> jhammel: ha, that actually works in MozillaBuild - I didn't think it would (given msys's usual standard)
# [01:52] <jhammel> hah!
# [01:52] <edmorley> albeit locks up the console, but hey
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# [01:54] <kbrosnan> edmorley: they reported it to wolf rather quickly
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# [01:54] <kbrosnan> though they may have crashed the bot, my logs are on a computer that is offline atm
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# [01:55] <Waldo> if it were me I'd have found an admin to /kb firebot, then notified wolf
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# [01:56] <jhammel> if it were me i would cat /etc/shadow and feed them to my rainbow tables :P
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# [02:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c8aee2ac4eba - Olli Pettay - Bug 725768 - BBP for ObjectHolders, additional patch, mccr8
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# [04:11] <@stuart> hrm
# [04:12] <philor> smaugIC: you've got unstarred orange on your mozilla-central pushes
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# [04:12] <philor> if you want someone else to deal with it for you, you might consider using mozilla-inbound instead
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# [04:31] <RyanVM> did hg.m.o just die for anyone else?
# [04:31] <RyanVM> ....and there it goes
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# [04:36] <philor> and it's once again time for my favorite game, Who Caused That GC Crash?
# [04:38] <philor> was it... the GC push on which it hit?
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# [04:41] <philor> or, could it be that talos is so broken that no results from it convey any actual information?
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# [04:50] <philor> oh well, at least it's only six
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# [04:56] <philor> and, yay, I can see four of the six
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# [04:57] <edmorley> \o/
# [04:59] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716067 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723773 if you want to mark them so you'll tell you when you merge them that you also merged the backouts
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# [05:00] <edmorley> philor: cool, thank you
# [05:00] <edmorley> I can CC if that helps?
# [05:01] <edmorley> (depends how many more times they bounce I suppose... :-))
# [05:01] <philor> heh
# [05:03] <philor> wow, I'm stinking up the tree on beta
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# [05:13] <edmorley> tomorrow's Nightly is going to be fun for regression-range finding in however many weeks time, when the issues crawl out, fair few csets and the day isn't over yet! http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=fb81c9a433e4&tochange=d71dab82fff4
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# [05:35] <philor> wow, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3Auntriaged is depressing
# [05:35] <Unfocused> dragons be there
# [05:36] <philor> a homogenous slurry of things that obviously shouldn't be there and things that obviously have no useful place to go
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# [05:37] <@khuey> sounds like you volunteered to me
# [05:37] <@khuey> woah
# [05:37] <@khuey> when did I become an op on #developers?
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# [05:38] <philor> you weren't here
# [05:38] <@khuey> apparently not
# [05:38] <@khuey> btw, as you have no doubt noticed, I was wrong about fixing the worker hang
# [05:38] <Unfocused> khuey: that means i get to reassign all my bugs to you, right? :P
# [05:38] <@khuey> we definitely fixed a hang, but apparently there's more than one :-/
# [05:39] <philor> yeah, it does feel like you slowed it down
# [05:39] <philor> so to speak ;)
# [05:39] <@khuey> heh
# [05:40] <@khuey> well, I got another hang in the replay setup
# [05:40] <@khuey> didn't finish analyzing it though
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# [05:40] <@khuey> didn't help that bent doesn't go to the office on fridays ;-)
# [05:42] <philor> probably for the best, what with his "don't get dressed on fridays" thing
# [05:42] <@khuey> lol
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# [05:43] <Unfocused> you know who else wore pants? hitler
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# [07:37] <@dolske> sorry. it was me. I had a burrito for lunch. :(
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# [07:40] <JonathanS> dolske, the national pancake day is coming up.
# [07:42] <larfdesk> ... I have a youtube video I always like to watch relating to pancakes...
# [07:43] <JonathanS> larfdesk, with ponies?
# [07:43] <larfdesk> it has robots!
# [07:44] <Callek> about:robots
# [07:44] <Callek> !
# [07:44] <JonathanS> larfdesk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWfRy0yZKW0&feature=related How I can make sandviches?
# [07:44] <larfdesk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDU0CTDMk2g
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# [11:59] <@smaug> hmm, should I learn to use github
# [12:01] <Octayn> It's a pretty neat tool.
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# [12:05] <tbsaunde> well, git is really nice, but I'm not so sure about github
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# [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7d80f315802f - Olli Pettay - Bug 701423 - Log the id and classes of an element in cycle collector dumps, f=mccr8,r=sicking
# [12:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/db8d7fa137e1 - Olli Pettay - Bug 725752 - BBP for XBL protos, f=mccr8,r=jst
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# [12:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bf204f3df23b - ffxbld - Automated blocklist update from host linux-ix-slave17
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# [12:30] <ttaubert> smaug: yay, finally useful cc dumps :)
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# [12:34] <@smaug> ttaubert: yeah, should be easier to read now
# [12:34] <@smaug> ttaubert: though, because of other changes, CC graph should be now a lot smaller :)
# [12:35] <@smaug> *a lot*
# [12:35] <ttaubert> smaug: yes, definitely, haven't had such bad cc/gc pauses since a long time
# [12:35] <@smaug> ttaubert: try m-c
# [12:36] <@smaug> I landed yesterday something which cut 3/4 of the graph size, at least for me
# [12:36] <ttaubert> uh
# [12:36] <ttaubert> smaug: so not in nightly, yet?
# [12:36] <@smaug> dunno
# [12:36] <ttaubert> or as I call it "afternoonly"
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# [12:37] <@smaug> https://github.com/whimboo/memchaser/downloads is very useful too to check GC and CC times
# [12:37] * @smaug can't wait to see incremental GC, hopefully on Monday
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# [12:37] <ttaubert> yeah, me too :)
# [12:37] <ttaubert> yes, I saw the mem chaser add-on
# [12:37] <ttaubert> but a status bar? meh
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# [12:38] <@smaug> hmm, where else could the UI be
# [12:38] <ttaubert> I have no idea
# [12:38] <ttaubert> :)
# [12:38] <ttaubert> I'll give it a try
# [12:39] <ttaubert> I survived disabling flashblock so I'll survive a status bar
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# [12:40] <ttaubert> unfortunately, I can't use irccloud in Firefox at the moment
# [12:40] <@smaug> why not?
# [12:40] <ttaubert> I'd really like to see if it's still reproducable
# [12:40] <@smaug> (irccloud is horrible)
# [12:41] <ttaubert> well, I like it :)
# [12:41] <ttaubert> smaug: bug 724225
# [12:41] <@smaug> it is extremely inefficiently written web app
# [12:41] <@smaug> but I'm just running it in another profile
# [12:41] <@smaug> to check CC times
# [12:41] <Octayn> Is that why it times out of freenode like three times a week? ;)
# [12:41] <ttaubert> smaug: yes, indeed. it is. but I like the feature itself. was thinking a lot about writing my own open source thingy to run it on my server
# [12:42] <@smaug> CC times are 3-6ms
# [12:42] <ttaubert> cool
# [12:42] <ttaubert> mh still have GC times of ~215ms with current nightly
# [12:42] <ttaubert> let's see what the next nightly brings
# [12:42] <@smaug> GC is still bad
# [12:43] <ttaubert> monday *crossing-fingers*
# [12:43] <@smaug> :)
# [12:45] <@smaug> ttaubert: I've seen that ic flickering too
# [12:45] <@smaug> it is strange
# [12:45] <@smaug> it seems to happen for sometime after loading the page
# [12:45] <@smaug> and then it somehow stabilizes
# [12:45] <@smaug> I think
# [12:45] <ttaubert> I mean, it's obvious that it's a poorly written web app
# [12:45] <ttaubert> *but* chrome handles it better
# [12:45] <ttaubert> so we should too
# [12:46] <@smaug> yeah, chrome does handle it better
# [12:46] <ttaubert> so you say it stabilizes?
# [12:46] <@smaug> though, it is very likely that it is optimized for chrome
# [12:46] <ttaubert> probably :/
# [12:46] <smaugIC> I don't see flickering on this profile
# [12:46] <smaugIC> atm
# [12:46] <ttaubert> I see it in #developers when scrolling up and down
# [12:47] <smaugIC> works fine
# [12:47] <smaugIC> I know it happens sometimes
# [12:47] <ttaubert> yes, here too
# [12:47] <ttaubert> I have no idea
# [12:47] <smaugIC> usually after reloading the page
# [12:47] * ttaubert reloads
# [12:47] <Unfocused> it is - the devs use chrome primarily
# [12:47] <smaugIC> at least I think I've seen it usually after reloading the page
# [12:47] <ttaubert> works fine for me
# [12:47] <ttaubert> hum
# [12:47] <ttaubert> cool
# [12:48] <ttaubert> Unfocused: we shouldn't support them.. :)
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# [12:50] <Unfocused> or we should support them enough so that they switch ;)
# [12:50] <ttaubert> yes, I like that better
# [12:50] <ttaubert> I'd totally like to narrow down their repainting problems
# [12:50] <ttaubert> but of course they're not OS
# [12:50] <@smaug> ttaubert: probably bug 725437
# [12:51] <edmorley> ttaubert: memchaser ui draggable to main toolbar :-)
# [12:51] <@smaug> filed by ic dev
# [12:51] <@smaug> edmorley: what is "main toolbar" ?
# [12:51] <edmorley> navigation toolbar
# [12:51] <ttaubert> smaug: thanks, interesting (and OMG why tables?)
# [12:52] <@smaug> menu bar seems to work too
# [12:52] <ttaubert> edmorley: cool, let's see
# [12:52] <@smaug> ttaubert: btw, I certainly don't buy "IRCCloud is a complex app and this sort of layout is sadly necessary until..."
# [12:52] <edmorley> http://i39.tinypic.com/x43law.jpg
# [12:52] <@smaug> the UI of irccloud is pretty simple
# [12:53] <Unfocused> disaply:box *is* pretty buggy in general :\
# [12:53] <ttaubert> smaug: me neither
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# [12:56] <ttaubert> Unfocused: buggy means someone should start to use it and file bugs :)
# [12:56] <Unfocused> chicken and egg :\
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# [12:56] <ttaubert> yes
# [12:57] <@smaug> isn't dholbert|afk fixing display: box (or flexbox)
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# [12:59] <@smaug> at what time are nightlies created ?
# [12:59] <Unfocused> builds are started around 3am MV time
# [13:01] <@smaug> so, about now
# [13:01] <darktrojan> about an hour ago
# [13:02] <Unfocused> (plus time to build)
# [13:02] <kaie> who must approve changes to beta ?
# [13:03] <kaie> I mean, whom of the drivers could I talk to, to check whether he already knows that a beta patch will be necessary?
# [13:04] <@smaug> kaie: perhaps akeybl
# [13:04] <Unfocused> kaie: a few people... akeybl handles a lot of it
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# [13:04] <@smaug> kaie: could you perhaps review Bug 710176
# [13:04] <@smaug> it is a horrible bug
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# [13:05] <Unfocused> kaie: set the status-firefox12 tracking flag to "affected"
# [13:05] <kaie> Unfocused, I'm talking about 11 even
# [13:05] <edmorley> sad faces: bug 690287 c#29 :-(
# [13:05] <Unfocused> er, 11, rather
# [13:06] <kaie> smaug, looking
# [13:06] <kaie> thx
# [13:06] <Unfocused> counting is hard!
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# [13:10] <edmorley> Callek++
# [13:11] <Callek> edmorley: for what>
# [13:11] <edmorley> (adding the missing 10.0 and 10.0.1 releases on the wiki)
# [13:11] <Callek> edmorley: ahhhhh ok
# [13:11] <Callek> edmorley: by March I'm going to trim the chart down to "pre 2012 see archives" ;-)
# [13:12] <edmorley> Is December 1 (Firefox 3.6.x to 8.0.1) the last MU? Thought there was another since to 9?
# [13:12] <Callek> edmorley: there are more MU's I just don't have the data handy to mark up the chart
# [13:12] <edmorley> yeah trimming sounds good
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# [13:15] <edmorley> smaug: Nightly is being cut from d71dab82fff4 not your push earlier unfortunately :-)
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# [13:16] <@smaug> edmorley: that looks ok. c8aee2ac4eba and 04b311e4bc94 are the interesting changesets
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# [13:35] <kaie> edmorley, Let's rename Firefox 10 to Firefox 9.10 and Firefox 10.0.1 to Firefox 9.10.0.1 and Firefox 11 to Firefox 9.11 and Firefox 12 to Firefox 9.12 etc. :)
# [13:36] <edmorley> I'm sure they'd still somehow managed to mess up the UA detection
# [13:36] <edmorley> s/ed//
# [13:36] <edmorley> bah wrong again
# [13:36] <Unfocused> if you're doing UA detection, you're already messing up :P
# [13:36] <edmorley> indeed
# [13:36] <edmorley> :-)
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# [13:38] <WG9s> and then we could change the product name to Opera?
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# [13:39] <ttaubert> opera had it first
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# [13:42] <edmorley> Callek: done :-)
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# [14:12] <evilpie> what happened to http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/toolbox/ ?
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# [14:19] <NeilAway> hmm... xhtml today
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# [14:26] <NeilAway> surkov++
# [14:26] <NeilAway> (sorry, only just got around to reading your blog post)
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# [14:28] <surkov> NeilAway: thank you!
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# [16:02] <incendiarymammal> Hello firefox developers. I want to make a patch because I found a piece of code (in Java) using a deprecated (and slow) API
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# [16:06] <gcp> incendiarymammal: interesting! in what part of the code?
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# [16:07] <incendiarymammal> I was browsing random files and I found: mozilla/ java/ util/ classes/ org/ mozilla/ util/ Utilities.java which seems to be laced with old code
# [16:07] <incendiarymammal> Vectors instead of ArrayLists
# [16:07] <incendiarymammal> StringTokenizer instead of stringname.split()
# [16:08] <gcp> There is no Utilities.java in our codebase?
# [16:08] <gcp> where did you find this, specifically?
# [16:08] <cers> isn't the only place we use java on android?
# [16:08] <incendiarymammal> http://mxr.mozilla.org/firefox/source/java/util/classes/org/mozilla/util/Utilities.java
# [16:08] <incendiarymammal> There
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# [16:09] <incendiarymammal> I am somewhat confused as to what I found. Could you please tell me WHAT I found
# [16:09] <incendiarymammal> ?
# [16:09] <gcp> incendiarymammal: that's firefox 3.0 code
# [16:09] <gcp> http://mxr.mozilla.org/ -> mozilla-central is the current code
# [16:09] <incendiarymammal> Ah! Thank you very much!
# [16:10] <incendiarymammal> I was browsing that while mercurial pulled (cloned or whatever I come from git)
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# [16:10] <incendiarymammal> and mercurial is complete so I will be browsing that. Thank you very much for your help! Much appreciated
# [16:10] <gcp> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ <- this is what you want
# [16:11] <incendiarymammal> I see that now. Thanks again :)
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# [16:20] <protz> I have an iframe whose document.location.href is foo, I set it to bar, dump(href) and I get foo
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# [16:28] <NeilAway> protz: a) did you wait for the new location to load b) did you re-fetch the document and location objects from the window after the new document loaded?
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# [16:31] <protz> NeilAway: the code is literaly iframe.contentDocument.location.href = "foo"; dump(iframe.contentDocument.location.href); // get "oldvalue"
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# [16:33] <cers> protz: I suspect it's only actually updated when the new document is fetched - tried checking the value on load?
# [16:33] <protz> cers: the value is correct on load, and indeed I suspect the value is updated only after the load took place
# [16:33] <protz> but I just wanted to make sure
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# [16:35] <cers> protz: if it changed before, then there would be weird situations where the href didn't reflect the actual document
# [16:35] <protz> right, so I guess what I wanted is document.location.pendingOrLoadedHref, or something like that
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# [16:39] <incendiarymammal> Hello again developers. I am looking at nsView.cpp and I notice that indentation style is erratic, such as between lines 345 and 382 - I see 4 spaces and 2 spaces
# [16:40] <incendiarymammal> and one function with tabs not spaces
# [16:41] <gcp> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Mozilla_Coding_Style_Guide
# [16:41] <gcp> should be spaces not tabs, 2 spaces indentation
# [16:41] <gcp> though, I think we don't actively clean up files where its wrong.
# [16:42] <incendiarymammal> Each file seems to have a line at the top dictating the coding style? If I were to make a patch in an old area should I use the coding guidelines or keep to old convention?
# [16:42] <gcp> if you're working in an existing file or part of the code, keep the style of the file you work in
# [16:42] <gcp> if its a new one, follow the coding guideline
# [16:43] <gcp> don't "fix up" code indentation unless you actually modify those lines for another reason
# [16:43] <incendiarymammal> OK. I understand. Was just curious
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# [16:46] <WG9s> Oh and on the new file follow mozilla syle guide. I beleive it is actually preferred to use the style of the module you are putting code in if all the other files are consistant but use diffent indent that the style guide.
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# [16:50] <gcp> bbondy: ping
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# [16:50] <bbondy> gcp: hi
# [16:50] <bbondy> great
# [16:50] <bbondy> :)
# [16:50] <gcp> it says the latter
# [16:50] <bbondy> k
# [16:50] <gcp> could not be started
# [16:51] <gcp> there is no update pending. was not sure if that was a typo
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# [16:51] <bbondy> ya started
# [16:52] <bbondy> gcp: Could you zip up this folder and attach it to the bug? C:\ProgramData\Mozilla\logs
# [16:52] <bbondy> maybe that will give some hints
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# [16:53] <Jeffrey> would anyone be able to help with some questions about bug 252602
# [16:55] <bbondy> gcp: So after you got the error was Nightly updated?
# [16:55] <gcp> Aurora was updated
# [16:56] <bbondy> sorry you were using Aurora, k
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# [16:56] <bbondy> gcp: Can you also install nightly for my steps in the bug to be valid and also so you can get more updates to test with?
# [16:56] <bbondy> ya your logs show that it applied the update fine, but something after that fails
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# [16:57] <WG9s> Jeffrey: ask the questions and then we will see if people can answer. We are not Carnac (can't divine the answer having never seen the question)
# [16:57] <gcp> bbondy: I have both nightly and aurora installed now
# [16:57] <bbondy> k cool
# [16:57] <gcp> bbondy: error happened when aurora wanted to update
# [16:57] <gcp> bbondy: I'll see what nightly does now
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# [16:58] <bbondy> gcp: k backup that folder if you alreayd have it open and you go to about
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# [17:00] <gcp> I have C:\Users\Gian-Carlo Pascutto\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox
# [17:00] <gcp> I have Aurora in there
# [17:00] <gcp> but not Nightly
# [17:01] <incendiarymammal> I found an issue on bugzilla, and in the source code. I am pretty sure this code *is* incorrect, but would someone like to confirm it for me?
# [17:01] <incendiarymammal> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710973
# [17:01] <bbondy> gcp: Is the update pending to be applied?
# [17:01] <bbondy> like the about button has an apply button
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# [17:01] <Jeffrey> WG9s: sorry, so I was trying to find out exactly where it would be possible for me to apply a gtk_set_resizable to the about window which should fix the bug and was wondering if anyone had any place that might be useful to look. I have dug through the files mentioned and haven't found exactly where i could do this. I am working on this with a group for one of my classes, first time ever...
# [17:01] <Jeffrey> ...trying to work on firefox so I might just be overlooking it
# [17:01] <gcp> ok, when I go to about I get that folder
# [17:02] <bbondy> great
# [17:02] <gcp> I'll backup now, then click apply
# [17:02] <bbondy> so seems from the logs it happens when the service tries to self update itself, hoping you can reproduce as I can add some logging to the few places it can crash
# [17:02] <gcp> crashed
# [17:02] <gcp> "good" :-P
# [17:03] <bbondy> gcp: unzip and see if it crashes again
# [17:04] <WG9s> Jeffrey:OK i don;t have an answer but now that you have identified the nature of the question, you are more likely to find someone who knows.
# [17:04] <incendiarymammal> I am 99% sure the line: * if (!(aXResolution > 0.0 && aXResolution > 0.0)) { * should be * if (!(aXResolution > 0.0 && aYResolution > 0.0)) { *
# [17:04] <zoite> incendiarymammal: Looks like the right one should be changed
# [17:04] <WG9s> but be aware that there are a lot less developers here on weekends.
# [17:04] <gcp> bbondy: yes, and now I got another window: partial update could not be applied. nightly will try again
# [17:04] <incendiarymammal> zoite: to to aYResolution, yes?
# [17:05] <bbondy> gcp: ya that's because you're trying to re-apply the partial ontop which won't work. But you do get the crash right?
# [17:05] <gcp> yes
# [17:06] <Jeffrey> WG9s: thanks, i understand and appreciate the help
# [17:07] <bbondy> gcp: I'm making a build now that has a log message after each line of code after the update succeeds so should tell us exactly where it crashes.
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# [17:10] <WG9s> bbondy: is your logging method forcing a buffer flush?
# [17:10] <bbondy> of course )
# [17:10] <bbondy> :)
# [17:10] <bbondy> I was actually going to write that int he message but dind't bother :)
# [17:11] <WG9s> Just a mistake I made once in the past!
# [17:11] <bbondy> been there too :)
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# [17:13] <bbondy> gcp: So please extract this: people.mozilla.com/~bbondy/maintenanceservice.zip to your C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Maintenance Service\ folder. Then reproduce it again and then send me the file at: C:\ProgramData\Mozilla\logs\maintenanceservice.log
# [17:13] <bbondy> I'm gonna run to get a coffee in the meantime, brb in 10 min
# [17:14] <Jeffrey> incendiarymammal: based on the if statement that follows I would say that the second "aXResolution" should be changes to "aYResolution". there is no point in checking the same thing twice
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# [17:16] <gcp> bbondy: people.mozilla.com/~bbondy/maintenanceservice.zip
# [17:16] <gcp> bbondy: afk for a bit too, I'll check scrollback
# [17:16] <gcp> oops, mispaste
# [17:16] <gcp> bbondy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32496746/maintenanceservice.log
# [17:16] <bbondy> about to leave
# [17:16] <bbondy> oh that was fast
# [17:16] <bbondy> I'll check first :)
# [17:16] <bbondy> bingo
# [17:17] <bbondy> that's an easy fix
# [17:17] <bbondy> thanks
# [17:17] <bbondy> :D
# [17:17] <gcp> yee!
# [17:18] <bbondy> I'm surprised no one has seen that crash before
# [17:18] <bbondy> just frees something it shouldn't
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# [17:18] <bbondy> and on your awesome machine crashes
# [17:18] <bbondy> thanks for the help
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# [17:20] <bbondy> gcp: So can I send you a fixed binary and have you make sure the crash is gone?
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# [17:20] <@smaug> nsCharsetMenu
# [17:20] <incendiarymammal> Can someone please help me with this code snippet: nsPresShell.cpp @line 5215
# [17:21] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: could you post a link to that line
# [17:21] <@smaug> you mxr
# [17:21] <@smaug> er
# [17:21] <@smaug> use mxr
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# [17:21] <bbondy> gcp: New binary is at the same location
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# [17:22] <Jeffrey> incendiarymammal: If you look at the if statement that follows you can see that the x is checked then the y so it makes sense that it was probably meant to be "aYResolution" not "X"
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# [17:23] <incendiarymammal> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp
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# [17:23] <Jeffrey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#5215
# [17:23] <incendiarymammal> Jeffrey: yes but my intuition is also telling me that since that if statement is throwing an error
# [17:24] <incendiarymammal> then the comparison should check if the resolutions are LESS than zero
# [17:24] <incendiarymammal> surely a positive greater than zero resolution is OK?
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# [17:25] <incendiarymammal> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710973 - here is the bugzilla entry for this problem (was originally found with a static analyzer)
# [17:25] <Jeffrey> add the #5215 bit for the line. And I see what your saying about that also. Seems like that may be a logic error also.
# [17:26] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: so there is the !
# [17:26] <@smaug> there is certainly bug testing aXResolution twice
# [17:26] <incendiarymammal> RIGHT! smaug: Thank you for pointing that out!
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# [17:27] <@smaug> the code was added in Bug 590294
# [17:27] <incendiarymammal> Why would one check aXResolution twice and not aYResolution even once?
# [17:27] <@smaug> part 6
# [17:27] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: it is just a bug
# [17:27] <@smaug> please file a bug
# [17:27] <@smaug> and CC cjones to the bug
# [17:27] <@smaug> (he wrote that code)
# [17:27] <incendiarymammal> It was filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710973
# [17:27] <incendiarymammal> smaug: it was originally flagged by a static analyser
# [17:28] <@smaug> so?
# [17:28] <@smaug> bug is still just a bug :)
# [17:29] <bbondy> gcp: ok going for real now for coffee, be back in 10 min. If you have time to re-try the new file at the same location please update the ticket. I'm pretty sure it'll work now.
# [17:29] <incendiarymammal> I know. Just telling you. This is my first patch so I am learning the process :) :)
# [17:29] <bbondy> gcp: Thanks for your help!
# [17:29] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: notice it is marked as a good first bug. so assign the bug to yourself and attach a aptch.
# [17:29] <WG9s> a patch
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# [17:30] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: write the patch and ask cjones to review it
# [17:30] <incendiarymammal> OK thank you :smaug :)
# [17:30] <incendiarymammal> oops wth
# [17:30] <incendiarymammal> oh right colon-s makes a funny face i put the colon in the wrong place
# [17:31] <incendiarymammal> Thank you smaug:
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# [17:31] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: also, would be great to have some test for the API
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# [17:32] <@smaug> a mochitest should be able to do something like SpecialPowers.setResolution(1, -1); and that should throw
# [17:33] <incendiarymammal> I don't know how to do that but I will look into it
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# [17:33] <gaston> go little ibook g4 go build m-c
# [17:34] <WG9s> Then go to incendiarymammal: then go here to find a peer for the module you are changing to request patch review from.
# [17:34] <WG9s> th patch should be created using diff -U 8
# [17:36] <incendiarymammal> WG9S: it looks like smaug asked me to ask cjones to review the patch
# [17:36] <mascondante> I work tech support for Frontier. Quick question: Does the latest Firefox work on the original xp?
# [17:36] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: actually that link i gave for module owners was incorrect
# [17:36] <WG9s> OK so you don;t need the link for this but you shojuld have the correct one for future use
# [17:36] <mascondante> Trying to get cx off the terribad IE6
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# [17:39] <@smaug> khuey: ping
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# [17:40] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: This is the complete list of module owners and peers https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/All
# [17:41] <WG9s> IF it is a moule that requires a revew and super-review then you need a review by a peer and a super-review by the owner
# [17:41] <WG9s> THe peer doing the review should be able to tell you if wuper-review is required or not.
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# [17:42] <@smaug> cjones is a superreviewer
# [17:42] <@smaug> and he wrote the bad code
# [17:43] <WG9s> Just trying to help with process for next bug.
# [17:44] <@smaug> yeah
# [17:44] <@smaug> usually it is good to check who wrote the code
# [17:44] <WG9s> it seemed incendiarymammal has been looking for a bug all day to help with. so I suspect once this bug is filed more will come.
# [17:44] <@khuey> smaug: pong
# [17:45] <@smaug> khuey: you were fixing find-leak
# [17:45] <@smaug> or find keeping stuff alive
# [17:45] <@smaug> what is the bug# ?
# [17:45] <@khuey> yes
# [17:45] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: but past that for help you should ask the review in the bug. Just trying to help you past some normal rookie mistakes.
# [17:46] <@khuey> 669845
# [17:46] <@smaug> thanks
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# [17:46] <@khuey> it's slighty missummarized
# [17:46] * @khuey blames njn for that
# [17:46] <WG9s> Perhaps I shouldn;t becuase there is no better way to learn than by making the mistakes yourself.
# [17:46] <incendiarymammal> yes WG9s: I am a first time helper. Does this look correct to you http://imgur.com/qFMNW
# [17:46] <incendiarymammal> ?
# [17:47] <incendiarymammal> ok so my comment could be clearer but the formalities are correct?
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# [17:47] <WG9s> looks ok to me
# [17:47] <WG9s> i think there is little sense in requesting a review and a super-review forjm the same person, but it is fine the way you have it.
# [17:48] <WG9s> cjones will tell you what to do abut the sr.
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# [17:49] <incendiarymammal> OK. I have submitted it. While I am waiting for the review, I think I will acquaint myself with the source code a little better
# [17:49] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: you should ask review from someone
# [17:49] <incendiarymammal> I understand it may take a while, but I am just glad to be helping out. Firefox has added so much value to my life it is about time I gave back :)
# [17:50] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: change review? to review? cjone
# [17:50] <@smaug> er
# [17:50] <@smaug> :cjones
# [17:50] <incendiarymammal> Yes I submitted the patch on bugzilla and both added cjones to my commit message and the bugzilla request for review form
# [17:50] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: actaully the superreview is generallyh where you find out about the type of thing you were asking about earlier. with style things where a particular module might use a different style than the mozilla style guide has for the project as a whole.
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# [17:51] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: in general superreview is needed when you're adding new APIs
# [17:51] <WG9s> so that you get an r+ on thae patch for technical reasons but then on the sr you get a does nto follw the indent style of the module or does nto follwo the bracing style for ifs for this module etc.
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# [17:52] <devmikey> Suggestion: I would like it if ajax calls that replace an element's src attribute with the same filename still force an element/page reload
# [17:52] <devmikey> and a pony
# [17:52] <incendiarymammal> WG9s: ok I though because someone mentioned that cjones was a superreviewer it would be appropriate to flag the patch as such
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# [17:53] <WG9s> like i said leave it as you have it and he will tell you what you should have done.
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# [17:53] <WG9s> a lot of this is either patch dependent or module dependent. some modules rewquire a super-review for all patches.
# [17:54] <@smaug> I wonder which modules
# [17:54] <incendiarymammal> OK thank you for the guidance. I will see how this one plays out...
# [17:54] <incendiarymammal> :)
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# [17:55] <devmikey> So giddyup
# [17:55] <WG9s> incendiarymammal: Like I said I probably gave you too much help. You learn more form doing it wrong then you do form getting help to do it right.
# [17:56] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: you haven't still asked review from cjones
# [17:56] <@smaug> incendiarymammal: change the Requestee: fields to :cjones
# [17:57] <devmikey> Question: Is there any setting that will allow firefox to reload a page or some element's innerHTML when an ajax call replaces an element's src with the same value
# [17:58] <@smaug> devmikey: sorry, what?
# [17:58] <NeilAway> mascondante: it does for now, but soon it will require SP2/3
# [17:59] <devmikey> smaug: What do u mean?
# [17:59] <mascondante> Oh ok. Thank you NeilAway
# [17:59] <incendiarymammal> Ok I didn't realise you needed to add that initial colon. :cjones added as a reviewer
# [17:59] <WG9s> incendirno idea why you needed a colon.
# [18:00] <@smaug> devmikey: what do you mean with reload element's innerHTML
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# [18:00] <WG9s> the real issue is that on the intial request (for some lame reason) if what you type in matches multiple people, it just ignores what you put in
# [18:00] <@smaug> and which src are you setting?
# [18:00] <devmikey> smaug: img in particular
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# [18:01] <WG9s> if you go back and edit and jsut put in cjones, that would come back and ask which one you want if it matches multiple people.
# [18:01] <devmikey> I'm making an ajax call which sets an img's src attribute with the same value
# [18:02] <incendiarymammal> WG9s it only expanded to jones.chris.g@gmail.com on the second run. Probably my fault.
# [18:02] <devmikey> because that value is a dynamic script, not a flat image
# [18:02] <WG9s> ok
# [18:02] <WG9s> btw what is the bug number for the bug?
# [18:02] <WG9s> I might cc it to follow progress to see how you do.
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# [18:02] <incendiarymammal> WG9s: Bug 710973
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# [18:05] <WG9s> OK and you probably figured out that this is a really simple bug to fix that anyone would ahve been able to do reason it is a "good firest bug" is that it was saved for new contributeors like yourself to be able to learn the process.
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# [18:06] <devmikey> smaug: understand me now?
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# [18:07] <incendiarymammal> :WG9s yes of course it is a trivial change but I used it to learn the ropes of the system
# [18:07] <WG9s> exactly!
# [18:08] <incendiarymammal> Thank you for all the help :) it is much appreciated but now you can guarantee that the process is committed to memory for me
# [18:08] <incendiarymammal> And I can contribute more significant things than this
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# [19:30] <@khuey> don't think so
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# [20:08] <NeilAway> smaug: which one?
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# [20:11] <Daeken> hello all. i've created a new dom interface and i'm attempting to instantiate it in JS. when i create the new object, i get a null reference in nsDOMClassInfo::GetInterfaces. i'm looking at mData (my object) and the name and all that are right, but mInterfaces is null. any idea why that might be?
# [20:11] <Daeken> i've compared my code to other (working) dom interfaces and everything seems to be there, but i'm sure i'm missing some declaration.
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# [20:18] <@smaug> NeilAway: not sure
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# [20:28] <Daeken> got it -- apparently missing the DOM_CLASSINFO_MAP_BEGIN/ENTRY/END for your interface will cause mInterfaces to be null
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# [20:32] <NeilAway> bah, I got a double configure :-(
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# [20:47] <edmorley> mascondante: upto and including Firefox 12 will be fine on windows 2000 and all WinXP ; Firefox 13 and higher will require WinXP SP2 or higher
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# [20:48] <edmorley> mascondante: Firefox 13 will be in the release channel as of 2012-06-05 (https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar)
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# [20:51] <mascondante> Ok. Thank you edmorley
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# [22:22] <clever> why is most of the backtrace empty here? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-dc663909-f911-4c88-be01-0ffb92120102
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# [22:25] <@khuey> are you using a custom build?
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# [22:25] <clever> khuey: not that i know of, its a crash on a friends system
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# [22:26] <clever> he doesnt know much about programing, so worst case, the distro made a custom build
# [22:26] <@khuey> clever: aha
# [22:27] <@khuey> clever: we don't have symbols for distro builds
# [22:27] <clever> but why is mozalloc showing symbols then?
# [22:27] <@khuey> though distros usually don't send us their crashreports either
# [22:27] <Ms2ger> khuey, spec stuff?
# [22:27] <@khuey> clever: ah, good point
# [22:27] <@khuey> clever: no idea then
# [22:27] <clever> khuey: the 3 last stack frames also make some sense
# [22:28] <clever> malloc() returned null, so it purposely references a null pointer
# [22:28] <@khuey> clever: yeah, we intentionally crash on OOM
# [22:28] <@khuey> Ms2ger: had some questions about getComputedStyle
# [22:28] <clever> i read the comments :)
# [22:28] <@khuey> but they're no longer relevant
# [22:28] <@khuey> clever: :-D
# [22:28] <@khuey> we have comments? :-P
# [22:28] <clever> yep :P
# [22:28] <Ms2ger> r-, too many comments
# [22:29] <@khuey> in some cases that might be true
# [22:29] <@khuey> e.g.
# [22:29] <@khuey> // Get the docshell
# [22:30] <@khuey> docshell = foo->GetDocShell();
# [22:30] <edmorley> bah tree status message has been wiped out
# [22:30] <WG9s> Or the MNG bug
# [22:30] <@khuey> you see that kind of stuff a lot in older code
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> khuey, r-, GetDocShell always uses an outparam
# [22:30] <kwierso> // Do something
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# [22:30] <Ms2ger> // Do nothing
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> ^ Applies to most of editor
# [22:31] <clever> khuey: yep, ive verified that its from a dpkg package, though i'm not sure if they just packed an official build or made there own
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# [22:32] <Ms2ger> clever, made their own, probably
# [22:32] <Ms2ger> Which distro?
# [22:32] <clever> Ms2ger: ubuntu i think
# [22:32] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [22:32] <clever> --srcdir=/build/buildd/firefox-10.0+build1/build-tree/mozilla --disable-install-strip --disable-updater
# [22:32] <Ms2ger> chrisccoulson makes those
# [22:32] <clever> yeah, looks like a debian build script
# [22:32] <clever> --enable-crashreporter
# [22:32] <clever> why he left the crash reporter on, i dont know
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# [22:33] <philor> edmorley: fixed
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# [22:34] <edmorley> lol
# [22:36] <clever> ok, what the heck
# [22:36] <clever> now all colors are busted, lol
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# [22:37] <clever> ah, that might be something else
# [22:39] <clever> hmmm, its blocking an http:// from loading file:// images
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> Duh?
# [22:40] <clever> it was working before the firefox upgrade, and we need it back on
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# [22:40] <Ms2ger> That's a security bug, so no
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# [22:41] <clever> isnt there an about:config to turn it back on?
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# [22:41] <Ms2ger> I sure hope not
# [22:41] <chrisccoulson> clever, Ms2ger, we submit crash symbols for our official builds btw
# [22:42] <clever> chrisccoulson: why might the backtrace be missing then?
# [22:42] <Ms2ger> chrisccoulson, thanks, that's good to know
# [22:42] <clever> chrisccoulson: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-dc663909-f911-4c88-be01-0ffb92120102
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# [22:43] <chrisccoulson> clever, the libxul.so module ID in your report is totally bogus
# [22:43] <chrisccoulson> 000000000000000000000000000000000
# [22:43] <chrisccoulson> which is why it hasn't worked
# [22:43] <@khuey> heh
# [22:43] <chrisccoulson> not sure why that's happened
# [22:43] <@khuey> that is pretty bogus
# [22:43] <clever> ah
# [22:44] <clever> yeah, i see that now, no clue why it did that
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# [22:45] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i've never seen that happen before
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# [22:45] <clever> same thing on the second crash report from that pc
# [22:46] <clever> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-57ec5ee9-c057-4034-8bc5-e6b812120101 looks like posible stack damage, but cant be sure
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# [22:48] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, weird ;)
# [22:48] <clever> ive got 2 more from inside a VM, but those already have open tickets
# [22:48] <chrisccoulson> Ms2ger, we also submit symbols for gtk, glib, xlib and some other libraries too btw
# [22:48] <chrisccoulson> which works for official mozilla.org builds too ;)
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# [22:50] <tchevalier> Hi everybody. Just a quick question: is it normal that a new string is already translated in Nightly and Aurora, but that a part of the sentence isn't in Beta? (I'm talking about community strings in about box)
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# [23:05] <jhermans> whois mcmanus
# [23:06] <Ms2ger> Oops :)
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# [23:06] <jhermans> Have you seen Patrick ?
# [23:07] <Ms2ger> !seen mcmanus
# [23:07] <firebot> mcmanus was last seen 2 weeks, 4 days, 3 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying 'I don't see any reason to force a patch to ship it. there are no known users if it outside of our own content' in #developers.
# [23:07] <jhermans> nope
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# [23:23] <cl> nsIPermissionManager doesn't support wildcards for dotted-quad IPs, does it?
# [23:24] <cl> "foo.com" will cover subdomains of foo.com, but there's no equivalent for "1.1.1.*", is there?
# [23:25] <kaie> do you know of a tool similar to "which", but for a .so file? A tool, giving libsomething.so, that will report which library will be loaded, based on the pathes ?
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# [23:29] <@khuey> kaie: ldd?
# [23:29] <kaie> no
# [23:30] <@khuey> oh, I see
# [23:30] <kaie> ldd libnss3.so
# [23:30] <kaie> -> not found
# [23:30] <@khuey> not sure that exists ...
# [23:30] <jtcranmer> kaie: export the LD_LIBRARY_PATH first
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# [23:31] <jtcranmer> (the actual firefox `executable' is actually a wrapper which first sets up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
# [23:31] <kaie> jtcranmer, no that doesn't help. still "not found". I need a tool that will help to analyze an environment with duplicate libraries installed. Inside a script, I want to know which one will be loaded
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# [23:40] <clever> kaie: ./firefox /bin/bash i think it was
# [23:41] <clever> kaie: that runs bash with the same LD_LIBRARY_PATH variables as it normaly runs firefox under
# [23:41] <clever> hmmm, it was something like that, /me looks
# [23:42] <biesi> run-mozilla.sh
# [23:42] <WG9s> oops put this on worng channel
# [23:42] <WG9s> kaie: well if you run ldd giving it an executabl it tells you which libraries would be loaded. Is that what you want
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# [23:42] <clever> biesi: doesnt seem to work for me
# [23:42] <kaie> no. well. thanks for your input. I think I will have to do something like WG9s suggests, although I had hoped for a more direct solution. anyway, th
# [23:43] <clever> ah wait
# [23:43] <kaie> x
# [23:43] <clever> it worked perfectly, lol
# [23:43] <clever> right down to my prompt colors
# [23:43] <biesi> haha yeah
# [23:43] <biesi> it does read .bashrc again
# [23:43] <clever> i must be thinking of when things run sh and it 'messes up' the colors
# [23:43] <biesi> might want to try ./run-mozilla.sh env next time :-)
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# [23:58] <NeilAway> biesi: would ./run-mozilla.sh ldd not work?
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