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# Session Start: Tue Feb 21 00:00:01 2012
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# [00:09] <luke> igor: i forgot removing that word meant touching all JSClass defs. still glad you did it :)
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# [00:15] <darktrojan> Unfocused: indicator alerts for when something goes orange? they'd never go away!
# [00:16] <@smaug> um, "implement XXX in JS rather than C++" and make it leak
# [00:17] * @smaug doesn't understand the reason to convert code to JS
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# [00:17] <@khuey> what did we leakify?
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# [00:17] <@smaug> nsFormFillController looks very leaky
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# [00:18] <@khuey> that's in C++, no?
# [00:18] <@smaug> or how it is used in js
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# [00:18] <@khuey> ah
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# [00:19] <@khuey> mFocusedInput looks a little sketchy
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# [00:20] <@smaug> mPwmgrInputs looks even scarier
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# [00:29] <@dolske> parting shots!
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# [00:34] <lurking_work> njn: so if this non-coder is reading 702300 right - there is a new command line about:compartments ? or just complements about:memory
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# [00:34] <njn> lurking_work: it's a new page
# [00:34] <lurking_work> sweet
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# [00:34] <darktrojan> does --disable-libxul still work?
# [00:34] <njn> lurking_work: it shares a lot of code with about:memory, but makes zombie compartment hunting a lot easier
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# [00:35] <lurking_work> nice
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# [00:37] <zwol> darktrojan: almost certainly not
# [00:37] * lurking_work would sure like to somewhat understand what facebook is doing in a 15meg compartment when visiting http://www.msnbc.com
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# [00:38] <njn> lurking_work: tracking your every move
# [00:38] <lurking_work> yeah, that's what I'm afraid of - and I don't even use FB
# [00:38] <njn> lurking_work: the web is mostly a giant user-tracking and web-serving network, with a thin layer of content and services on top
# [00:38] <njn> :(
# [00:38] <lurking_work> yeah
# [00:38] <njn> lurking_work: install the Ghostery add-on, you'll be appalled
# [00:39] <lurking_work> other sites FB is around 2meg or so, but only on MSNBC does it go through the roof
# [00:39] <njn> I did, and then I uninstalled it, because it was too depressing
# [00:39] <njn> lurking_work: we've seen that before, something to do with lots of comments
# [00:39] <lurking_work> I probably don't want to know - depressed enough now that the world seems hell-bent to filter 'everything' through FB
# [00:39] <njn> lurking: I meant "ad-serving", not "web-serving" above
# [00:39] <lurking_work> comments on which end ? msnbc ?
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# [00:40] <zwol> there are ABP lists specifically tailored for anti-user-tracking
# [00:40] <zwol> they can be used without also blocking ads, even
# [00:41] <lurking_work> zwol: been playing with some of those - does not prevent the creation of the 15meg compartment
# [00:41] <zwol> :(
# [00:41] <zwol> does it still happen if you're logged out of facebook?
# [00:41] <zwol> not that i'm going to have a great idea either way, but it might tell you something
# [00:41] <lurking_work> I don't even use FB - no account , nada - just visit msnbc and look at about:memory
# [00:43] <zwol> doesn't happen for me
# [00:43] <zwol> #memshrink might be better at helping you further
# [00:44] <lurking_work> ok, tnx
# [00:45] <lurking_work> strange you don't see it
# [00:45] <lurking_work> currently on work machine XPsp3 with 10.0.2 19.17 MB (07.25%) -- compartment(http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?ap
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# [00:46] <lurking_work> I use Win7 64bit at home with m-c nightly's and see approx same thing
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# [00:49] <lmeyerov> hi I'm lmeyer
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# [00:51] <lmeyerov> hi is anyone familiar with the CSS layout specs?
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# [00:51] <zwol> undoubtedly
# [00:51] <zwol> what is your question?
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# [00:51] <lmeyerov> I'm a little confused by dbaron's proposed table alg ( http://dbaron.org/css/intrinsic/ ) for "intermediate intrinsic minimum width for span N (N > 1)"
# [00:52] <lmeyerov> for "The contribution of the cell is the sum of:
# [00:52] <lmeyerov> the intrinsic minimum width of the column for span N-1"
# [00:52] <lmeyerov> is that the baseline intrinsic minimum width?
# [00:52] <edmorley> darktrojan: that option has been removed
# [00:52] <lmeyerov> or say just by looking at the column for span == 1? [I realize this is a little detailed a question :)]
# [00:54] <zwol> i'm afraid that one's a little above my pay grade
# [00:54] <lmeyerov> me too :)
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# [00:54] <zwol> dbaron himself is usually here, but today is a holiday in the USA
# [00:54] <jrmuizel> zwol: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/027f56e65a84 is lovely to see
# [00:54] <lmeyerov> yeah I'll try to ask him a bit later. not a big issue. thanks!
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# [00:55] <zwol> I say thankya
# [00:55] <zwol> it's not very often I get to delete twelve files
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# [01:12] <nthomas> oh dear, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711900#c58
# [01:14] <Unfocused> how many changes? let me count them for you...
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# [01:22] <cilias> can someone help me add a commit message to a patch? I've been trying the instructions at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F, and when I type hg qnew name.patch in terminal, I get this http://ilias.ca/screenshots/hg%20qnew%20name.patch.png
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# [01:22] <biesi> that's your editor
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# [01:22] <biesi> to enter the commit message into
# [01:23] <biesi> vim, in this casze
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# [01:23] <biesi> cilias, ^
# [01:23] <cilias> biesi: thanks. I've tried entering text, but it didn't work
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# [01:24] <biesi> cilias, vim is a bit tricky to use
# [01:24] <biesi> press a
# [01:24] <biesi> then enter text
# [01:24] <biesi> then press esc
# [01:24] <biesi> then enter :wq
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# [01:24] <biesi> alternatively, find a vim tutorial online :)
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# [01:25] <cilias> biesi: w00t! thanks
# [01:26] <biesi> np
# [01:26] <biesi> you can probably export EDITOR=emacs if you prefer
# [01:26] <@dolske> :q
# [01:26] <biesi> or =joe or whatever
# [01:26] <@dolske> joe is my favorite editor! he reviews all my patches!
# [01:27] <biesi> :)
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# [01:35] <NeilAway> darktrojan: Gecko 2 supported it, but then it got ripped out
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# [01:36] <NeilAway> dolske: ehsan is my favourite editor ;-)
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# [01:37] <NeilAway> njn: why isn't it called about:compartments in the first place?
# [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f7ccbfd0b7c6 - Justin Dolske - Backout bfc937247f3c (bug 588909), UA change breaks Google and Zimbra.
# [01:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d07998fb3530 - Justin Dolske - Backout 0a7410527788 (bug 572659), UA change breaks Google and Zimbra.
# [01:38] <njn> NeilAway: I don't understand the question
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# [01:39] <NeilAway> njn: well, the url is about:compartment but the title is about:compartments
# [01:39] <njn> njn: the URL is about:compartments
# [01:39] <njn> as is the title
# [01:40] <njn> NeilAway: where do you see otherwise?
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# [01:41] <NeilAway> njn: in the patch you just got review on
# [01:41] <NeilAway> njn: } else if (location.href.startsWith("about:compartment")) {
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# [01:42] <NeilAway> ah, so the code happens to work by accident
# [01:42] <njn> NeilAway: that's a typo, in this case a harmless one, but I'll fix it
# [01:43] <njn> NeilAway: "about:compartment" doesn't work in the address bar
# [01:43] <NeilAway> njn: ok, thanks for clearing up my confusion
# [01:43] <njn> NeilAway: thanks for spotting
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# [01:50] <Matti> dolske: If I ever meet you somewhere you will get a free beer from me (for the UA backout)
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# [01:55] <NeilZZZ> darktrojan: bah, browser_viewsourceprefs.js should just bite the bullet and check for == "true" like everyone else does :-P
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# [02:02] <Callek> matti: cset link?
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# [02:03] <Matti> Callek:: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d07998fb3530
# [02:03] <darktrojan> neil?
# [02:04] <darktrojan> did you read the original bug?
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# [02:30] <cadecairos> roc: ping
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# [02:31] <@roc> hi
# [02:32] <Matti> we hae a netsplit ...
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# [02:33] <cadecairos> roc: hey, wanted to run a question by you re: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726904#c12 ... you metioned a setTimeout loop
# [02:33] <cadecairos> did you mean setInterval?
# [02:33] <@roc> either one works
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# [02:34] <cadecairos> I was playing around with it and noticed that before readystate 1 the video will always have 0,0 for intrinsic size
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# [02:42] <@roc> hmm really?
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# [02:43] <@roc> looks to me like nsHTMLVideoElement::GetVideoSize should return the passed-in default until metadata has loaded
# [02:44] <@roc> as expected
# [02:44] <@roc> the JS videoWidth and videoHeight methods have different behavior (as per spec)
# [02:44] <@roc> they return 0
# [02:44] <@roc> see nsHTMLVideoElement::GetVideoWidth/Height
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# [02:50] <@khuey> bug 728972 is pretty creepy
# [02:52] <cadecairos> roc: ah yes, that makes sense
# [02:53] <kwierso> khuey: well, they have to pair the google account to a version of firefox
# [02:53] <cadecairos> I guess I'll just ensure that the size is set to the video dimensions after metadataloaded
# [02:53] <kwierso> how else would they send the correct customized empirical search results?
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# [02:54] <@khuey> kwierso: well the creepy part is that it only happens on certain terms
# [02:54] <lurking_work> KWierso if things come to life in Australis there will be no Firefox button to drop on - unless your going to drop onto the gear-cog
# [02:54] <@khuey> kwierso: that happen to be related to what we do all day
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# [02:55] <lurking_work> not creepy anymore - UA stuff was backed out
# [02:56] <kwierso> lurking_work: now back to your normal creepy account/search/browser associations...
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# [04:31] <dRdR> is there a good way to compare an nsString to another nsString incase-sensitively
# [04:32] <dRdR> the best way I can see is to convert to ascii then use LowerCaseEqualsASCII()
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# [04:34] <Mook> there should be a CaseInsensitiveCompare in nsReadableUtils.h
# [04:34] <dRdR> Mook: from what I can see that takes two const char types
# [04:35] <dRdR> oh, there's another useful function here though
# [04:35] <dRdR> ToLowerCase()
# [04:35] <dRdR> I could just use that on it and then compare
# [04:35] <dRdR> though that's still kind of bad
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# [04:36] <dRdR> what about this ComparatorFunc parameter to Equals() which has a default?
# [04:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/57c613f56cf9 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 728932 - needHomepageOverride should use nsIXULAppInfo::platformVersion instead of nsIHttpProtocolHandler::misc. r=gavin
# [04:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/be559203ece8 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 572659 - Don't expose the Gecko patch level (13.X.Y) in the UA string, only show the major version (13.X). r=glandium,bz sr=gerv
# [04:37] <Mook> ah, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/intl/unicharutil/util/nsUnicharUtils.h#76 ?
# [04:37] <dRdR> Mook: yeah you're right, I think I misinterpreted what you were saying, I can use CaseInsensitiveCompare as the ComparatorFunc parameter
# [04:38] <dRdR> see http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/mozilla-central/xpcom/glue/nsStringAPI.h.html#l641
# [04:38] <Mook> oh, you're using external strings
# [04:38] <Mook> then, yes, exactly
# [04:38] <dRdR> awesome, thanks
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# [05:29] <markh> does anyone know off the top of their head why trying to postMessage an object fails with NS_ERROR_DOM_DATA_CLONE_ERR even though the same object can be passed to JSON.stringify() and have sensible data returned?
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# [05:31] <heycam> markh, has it got accessor properties on it? I think the structured clone algorithm that postMessage uses throws on those. but JSON.stringify() might not.
# [05:32] <markh> heycam: I'm not sure actually - the object is coming from facebook :) But that's possibly likely and interesting - thanks!
# [05:33] <@khuey> the structured clone algorithm invokes getters
# [05:34] <heycam> hmm
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# [05:34] <heycam> I just tried locally, seems to throw the data clone error
# [05:34] <heycam> tried with: `var o = { }; Object.defineProperty(o, "x", { get: function() { return 1 } }); window.postMessage(o, "*")`
# [05:35] <heycam> wait a minute, even doing window.postMessage({ }, "*") is failing for me
# [05:36] <markh> fyi, I'm actually doing messagePort.postMessage, but I assume that's using the exact same mechanism
# [05:37] <markh> oops - I mean worker.postMessage
# [05:37] <heycam> turns out calling window.postMessage inside the web console fails, but if I call it from script in the page it works :(
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# [05:37] <@khuey> heycam: that's just the web console being weird
# [05:38] <@khuey> markh: if I had to take a guess, I'd guess this is bug 667388
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# [05:40] <markh> khuey: yeah, sounds possible. The object is coming from content into chrome which is doing the postMessage, so could well be a security wrapper...
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# [05:42] <@khuey> you can bug him about it now ;-)
# [05:42] <bholley> markh: hm?
# [05:43] <markh> bholley: original question was: does anyone know off the top of their head why trying to postMessage an object fails with NS_ERROR_DOM_DATA_CLONE_ERR even though the same object can be passed to JSON.stringify() and have sensible data returned?
# [05:43] <markh> and khuey suggested: if I had to take a guess, I'd guess this is bug 667388
# [05:43] <bholley> markh: probably bug 667388
# [05:43] <bholley> heh
# [05:43] <markh> yeah
# [05:44] <markh> thanks guys - no big deal - I can just stringify and parse the data and post that which works for my purposes
# [05:44] <@khuey> so, silly question
# [05:44] <@khuey> why can't we just do whatever JSON.stringify does for unwrapping?
# [05:45] <markh> iiuc, cloning is much more sophisticated in terms of object cycles etc
# [05:45] <markh> so I expect there are many objects which fail to stringify but clone ok?
# [05:46] <bholley> khuey: really, we probably can just fix the bug
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# [05:46] <@khuey> markh: right, I'm just talking about the security perspective here
# [05:46] <bholley> khuey: I didn't proceed on it because it wasn't possible to write test coverage to make sure we kept throwing when it was security sensitive
# [05:46] <markh> right
# [05:46] <@khuey> bholley: mmm
# [05:46] <@khuey> that's fun
# [05:47] <bholley> this really only affects chrome code
# [05:47] <bholley> markh: you're working on chrome code, right?
# [05:48] <markh> yep
# [05:48] <njn> bugzilla is down?
# [05:48] <markh> and the object came from content
# [05:48] <glob> njn, yes :(
# [05:49] <njn> glob: ok
# [05:49] <richardus> spah sappin my bugzilla
# [05:49] <glob> njn, the bmo servers aren't getting any network traffic, so i'm guessing the zeus is unhappy
# [05:49] <glob> in related news, the load on the bmo servers is way down now :)
# [05:51] <bholley> markh, khuey: yeah, I think we should stop beating around the bush and just fix the bug and review the patch very carefully
# [05:51] <njn> glob: silver lining
# [05:51] <@khuey> bholley: sounds like a plan to me
# [05:51] * njn just went to file a new bug... d'oh
# [05:51] <bholley> khuey: I'll make you a deal - you write the mochitest, I'll fix the bug :-)
# [05:52] <glob> njn, IT are aware of the issue and are working on it
# [05:52] <njn> glob: I have no doubt! :)
# [05:53] <Matti> who killed bmo :-)
# [05:54] <glob> Matti, i'm guessing it was the father of gods and men
# [05:54] <@khuey> bholley: I'm booked solid through at least 2014
# [05:54] <njn> it's not until you lose your left leg that you realize how much you use it
# [05:55] <hub> njn: same here. fail :-/
# [05:56] <hub> I just landed some stuff.
# [05:57] <Jesse> good timing, now i can't file regressions
# [06:00] <bholley> markh: wait, so what exactly are you stringifying?
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# [06:01] <markh> bholley: it is an object that comes from facebook which I'm attempting to use directly in a worker.postMessage - however, just stringify and reparsing works (so I'm not actually blocked - it was more for interest etc)
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# [06:02] <markh> so I'm not even sure how the object is put together
# [06:02] <bholley> markh: Well, I'm looking at the code, and it seems like stringify doesn't handle native objects at all.
# [06:02] * bholley tries stringifying a dom object
# [06:03] <mattwoodrow> anyone around that knows about refresh driver(s)?
# [06:03] <markh> I *think* it is going to be a normal object - it holds "state" information which is being broadcast to a few other windows
# [06:04] <markh> and the fact JSON.stringify works reinforces my belief it's nothing too special
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# [06:05] <bholley> markh, khuey: oh, I see. So I think the issue is that JSON.stringify works on objects entirely as JS Objects. It's blind to the fact that some of them are wrapped DOM objects
# [06:05] <bholley> so it gets around this little issue
# [06:05] <bholley> whereas structured clone has callbacks for native stuff
# [06:05] <mattwoodrow> tn: ping
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# [06:06] <tn> mattwoodrow, pong
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# [06:06] <mattwoodrow> tn: Got a minute to help me understand the frame/presshell/context/refresh driver relationship?
# [06:06] <markh> right - so the object might have a reference to the sending window, for example, but that would be dropped by stringify?
# [06:06] <tn> mattwoodrow, sure
# [06:06] <mattwoodrow> or more specifically, how can I get the widget (painting) refresh driver from any frame
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# [06:07] <bholley> markh: yeah, something like that
# [06:07] <mattwoodrow> getting the refresh driver from the prescontext doesn't seem right
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# [06:08] <tn> mattwoodrow, you want to get the display root, and then get the nearest widget
# [06:08] <tn> mattwoodrow, nsLayoutUtils::GetDisplayRootFrame
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# [06:09] <Jesse> https://www.google.com/search?q=%3Cmarquee%3E
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# [06:10] <kwierso> I see what they did there
# [06:10] <tn> mattwoodrow, hmm, actually i'll have to look to see how the refresh driver flushes invalidates on popups
# [06:10] <mattwoodrow> tn: I need to look at that too :)
# [06:10] <mattwoodrow> since I've completely broken them
# [06:11] <Jesse> kwierso: sadly i don't think it's intentional
# [06:11] <tn> mattwoodrow, so without popups the answer is just the get the root document/prescontext and its refresh driver is the one that paints
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# [06:13] <mattwoodrow> tn: That's a good start!
# [06:13] <mattwoodrow> I think it'll fix the current bug I'm working on
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# [06:23] <tn> mattwoodrow, yeah, the root document refresh driver also handles invalidates being flushed for popups
# [06:23] <tn> mattwoodrow, that's the current setup anyway, you are changing some of that of course
# [06:23] <mattwoodrow> tn: Where is the code for that?
# [06:23] <mattwoodrow> I probably need to look at fixing that soon
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# [06:24] <tn> mattwoodrow, mViewManagerFlushIsPending in refresh driver, and then follow that to the view manager, ProcessPendingUpdates/ProcessPendingUpdatesForView
# [06:25] <mattwoodrow> ugh, views
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# [06:27] <mattwoodrow> thanks tn, this should be enough to keep me busy for a while longer
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# [06:29] <tn> mattwoodrow, cool, let me know when you need more :)
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# [06:31] <dRdR> Mook: any idea why I'd get an error that CaseInsensitiveCompare doesn't exist? it seems to be defined with all the other string stuff
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# [06:35] <dRdR> anyone else know? trying to include CaseInsensitiveCompare, which is defined in nsStringAPI.h, but I can't include it directly (also it seems to just be a prototype or declaration but not a definition)
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# [06:44] <mattwoodrow> tn: Ok so next question :)
# [06:45] <mattwoodrow> How do I find the display refresh driver from an arbitrary prescontext
# [06:47] <tn> mattwoodrow, GetRootPresContext()->RefreshDriver() should do it
# [06:49] <Mook> dRdR: where are you?
# [06:50] <dRdR> Mook: working in mozilla-central/widget/
# [06:50] <Mook> okay, that's internal API land; you need to look at nsTString & friends, not nsStringAPI.h
# [06:51] <dRdR> ah, okay
# [06:51] <dRdR> does that mean CaseInsensitiveCompare is off limits now?
# [06:52] <Mook> yep!
# [06:52] <dRdR> heh, great, any suggestions then? my next best guess is to convert to ASCII then use LowerCaseEqualsASCII
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# [06:52] <dRdR> which is pretty painful when you need to repeat it several times on different strings
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# [06:56] <Mook> I _think_ you want http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsTSubstring.h#814 with nsTStringComparator_CharT&=nsCaseInsensitiveStringComparator
# [06:56] <dRdR> yeah I just saw that, I'll try it
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# [06:56] <Mook> or possibly .Equals
# [06:57] <dRdR> I think I want .Equals(compareWith, nsCaseInsensitiveStringComparator)
# [06:57] <Mook> yeah, that's what OS/2 does! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/os2/nsDeviceContextSpecOS2.cpp#278
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# [06:58] <dRdR> ah, nice
# [06:58] <dRdR> that's weird, I read somewhere on a wiki article that it's the old way of doing that
# [06:58] <Mook> some times old = keeps working ;)
# [06:58] <dRdR> as in someone supposedly updated everything to use CaseInsensitiveComparator and nsCaseInsensitieStringComparator is deprecated
# [06:58] <dRdR> yeah, whatever works
# [06:59] <Mook> no, there's just two separate (but confusingly similarly named) string APIs
# [06:59] <Mook> (actually, there's... more than that, but we'll pretend we're only slightly crazy for now)
# [07:00] <dRdR> I never fully understood that, is one for XUL plugins and the other for our internal code?
# [07:00] <dRdR> internal vs external
# [07:00] <Mook> yeah; one is "inside of libxul", one is "everybody else"
# [07:01] <dRdR> is there a quick way to distinguish them?
# [07:02] <Mook> yeah, #define MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API for the first set
# [07:02] <dRdR> oh ok
# [07:02] <Mook> they should complain loudly if you have the wrong set
# [07:02] <Mook> also, the second one is only inside nsStringAPI.h, and it's actually quite readable
# [07:03] <dRdR> ok, that makes it simpler
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# [07:06] <Mook> the internal set is in about five hundred header files, that #define various CharT bits to be char* and PRUnichar* versions, and... that sort of fun.
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# [07:14] <markh> dumb question: on my linux VM I load some html with dump() statements, but I can't see them on the console - but dump() statements in a worker do appear ok - anyone know where the ones from content are going?
# [07:15] <kwierso> markh: eaten by the other console?
# [07:15] <markh> maybe - but what "other" console is there? :) They aren't in the error console
# [07:16] <kwierso> web console
# [07:16] <kwierso> or the command line terminal?
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# [07:16] <markh> oh - I bet I know - that pref!
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# [07:17] <markh> browser.dom.window.dump.enabled!
# [07:17] <kwierso> that works too
# [07:17] <markh> yep - that was it. please ignore me :)
# [07:19] <markh> kwierso: dump() is the bane of my life - first with jetpack a while ago and now with workers :)
# [07:19] <kwierso> :)
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# [07:19] <markh> stooopid windows is really more to blame...
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# [07:36] <dRdR> Mook: thanks for the help, seems to work
# [07:37] <Mook> yay!
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# [08:46] <bholley> Mook: about to head to bed - what's up?
# [08:47] <Mook> oh, just wanted to ask if the still from bug 683802 is all in m-c, or if there's still vestigial code reviews on github or something I could look at
# [08:47] <Mook> s/still/stuff/
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# [08:48] <bholley> Mook: it all landed in m-c if that's what you're wondering
# [08:48] <bholley> Mook: the reviews are all on bugzilla
# [08:48] <Mook> ah, okay, thanks
# [08:49] <bholley> Mook: anything in particular you're looking for?
# [08:49] <Mook> no, just trying to make pyxpcom slightly less broken
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# [08:49] <Mook> (by which I mean "stop crashing when running what tests it has")
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# [08:49] <bholley> :P
# [08:50] <bholley> Mook: you're aware that the DOM is going to be non-xpcom soon, right?
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# [08:51] <Mook> yep
# [08:51] <bholley> ok :-)
# [08:51] <Mook> stupid treadmill
# [08:51] <Mook> but, hey, getting _something_ to work is better than none of it... right?
# [08:51] <Mook> (pydom is already dead, anyway)
# [08:51] * Mook already has lovely, should-fail-any-sort-of-review-possible changes like http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489327
# [08:52] <gaston> erm
# [08:52] <gaston> firefox-11.0beta3/mozilla-beta/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp:976: error: 'SSL_RestartHandshakeAfterAuthCertificate' was not declared in this scope
# [08:52] <gaston> so ffx 11.0b3 doesnt build with systemwide nss 3.13.2 ?
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# [08:53] <gaston> i see that function in the bundled nss in security/nss/lib/ssl/ssl.h, but not on my systemwide install...
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# [08:58] <Mook> https://bit.ly/x9QNjE - that appears to have been removed in NSS 3.13.2
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# [09:01] <gaston> erm...
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# [09:02] <gaston> but it's in the nss provided in mozilla-beta
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# [09:02] <gaston> so it came back after ?
# [09:03] <gaston> oh, mozilla-beta when b3 was tagged didnt have plain 3.13.2 rtm
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# [09:04] <gaston> will wait for b4 then...
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# [09:22] <Mark_Capella> Is anyone familiar with the new [autoland] whiteboard tag? I've set it today on a bug of mine and nothing seems to have happened ... It's a new feature and a search reveals I'me only one of two people who are trying it ... does it function yet?
# [09:23] <Mark_Capella> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:Autoland
# [09:23] <Mark_Capella> Bug 407221 - Change l10n notes in places.properties
# [09:24] <nthomas|away> where did you hope it would land ?
# [09:24] <Mark_Capella> Try server
# [09:25] <Mark_Capella> That's what it says its designed for
# [09:25] <Mark_Capella> I
# [09:25] <Mark_Capella> ve got a review+
# [09:26] <nthomas|away> yeah, I was just wondering why a comment only change needs to go to try
# [09:26] <Mark_Capella> It needs me to be L1 or get a L1+ review
# [09:26] <Mark_Capella> Oh ... testing the functionality it probably didnt need try
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# [09:27] <Mark_Capella> autoland functionality that is
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# [09:28] <nthomas|away> you should ask lsblakk or mjessome about autoland, I'm not sure what state it's in right now
# [09:28] <nthomas|away> they'll be sleeping right now
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# [09:29] <glob> fwiw we'll be adding better visibility of the autoland status to bmo soon
# [09:29] <Mark_Capella> thanks ... ill poke around later in the day then
# [09:29] <Mark_Capella> getter how?
# [09:29] <Mark_Capella> better
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# [09:30] <Mark_Capella> oic thx
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# [09:34] <NeilAway> darktrojan: sorry, I was referring to --disable-libxul
# [09:35] <NeilAway> darktrojan: oh wait, you said something else
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# [09:37] <NeilAway> darktrojan: ah, so I should really thwap jaws instead?
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# [09:42] <@dolske> firebot: passive aggressive
# [09:42] <firebot> dolske: Sorry, I've no idea what 'passive aggressive' might be. Maybe if someone had bothered to tell me, this channel would be better off. But it's hardly worth trying any more, since I'm never appreciated for my work.
# [09:43] <glob> haha
# [09:45] <Mark_Capella> :-P can anyone play?
# [09:46] <Mark_Capella> firebot: gamma ray burst
# [09:46] <firebot> Mark_Capella: Sorry, I've no idea what 'gamma ray burst' might be.
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# [09:47] <Mark_Capella> <=== jumps back to his bugs ... thanks for the help all
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# [10:36] <Ms2ger> jdaggett++
# [10:39] <msucan> chrisccoulson: thanks for your in depth analysis of bug 694594 !
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# [10:49] <jlebar|mac> // public methods
# [10:49] <jlebar|mac> nsPIDOMWindow* GetPrivateParent();
# [10:49] <jlebar|mac> I love it. :)
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# [10:57] <darktrojan> NeilAway, I'll hold that thwap against you until it comes in handy one day
# [10:58] <mrbkap> jlebar|mac: It makes me sad that my first reaction to that was "that makes total sense"
# [10:59] <Ms2ger> You must work on XPConnect
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# [11:04] <hsivonen> ah. Editor. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729041
# [11:05] <darktrojan> heh
# [11:06] <Ms2ger> Indeed so
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# [11:10] <darktrojan> huh, it's probably not good that pdf.js stores stuff in localstorage with the key 'database'
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# [11:25] <darktrojan> http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/py6p3/firefox_to_get_a_new_default_theme_other/c3tds5m
# [11:25] <darktrojan> apparently firefox can time travel
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# [11:26] <NeilAway> darktrojan: which one, yesterdays?
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# [11:27] <darktrojan> tomorrows
# [11:27] <darktrojan> oh you're talking about thwaps
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# [11:27] <darktrojan> it really is difficult trying to keep up with this discussion, NeilAway
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# [11:28] <NeilAway> darktrojan: especially since you don't consistently ping the person you're talking to :-P
# [11:28] <Octayn> At least on linux, can't you opt out of the titlebar with an ewmh or something?
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# [11:28] <Octayn> And paint your own?
# [11:28] <NeilAway> darktrojan: you were lucky it was still on NeilZZZ's scrollback
# [11:30] <darktrojan> NeilAway, I don't constantly ping people because I hate the way the message indicator gives me a slow-mo replay of what was just said when people do it to me
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# [11:35] <hsivonen> I'm not surprised anymore, but it always saddens me to find code that's COMtaminated just so that Gecko could be built as a zillion small DLLs in 1998
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# [11:36] <darktrojan> I'm not surprised anymore, but it always saddens me to find code that's got absolutely no tests because it was written in a hurry
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# [11:40] <darktrojan> actually that's not true, but it still doesn't surprise me
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# [11:43] <Ms2ger> Morning edmorley
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# [11:43] <darktrojan> woah, thunderbird just told me I got 134 new messages, when actually I got 2
# [11:43] <darktrojan> good counting!
# [11:43] <edmorley> good morning Ms2ger :-)
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# [11:43] <chrisccoulson> msucan, you're welcome :)
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# [11:45] <msucan> :)
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# [11:45] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, so are you doing the nsIParserService bugs or are they up for grabs?
# [11:45] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: up for grabs
# [11:46] <Ms2ger> Want to make them mentored bugs?
# [11:47] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: ok, I guess. How do I make bugs mentored?
# [11:47] <hsivonen> apart from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729046 , they are rather mechanical
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# [11:47] <Ms2ger> Add [mentor=hsivonen][lang=C++] to the whiteboard
# [11:47] <hsivonen> (which is why I'm particularly hoping that someone grabs https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729046 )
# [11:47] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: ok
# [11:48] <Ms2ger> Eh, editor :)
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# [11:50] <Ms2ger> ehsan_xchat, ping
# [11:50] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: well, I hope someone is searching mentored bugs for easy stuff to do. There isn't really much to mentor when these are cut this code over here and paste it there
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> I think it's a good way to get into the process
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# [11:51] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: it would definitely be nice to get more people into the process of "see nsI and do_GetService? zap that."
# [11:51] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [11:52] <Ms2ger> We're not there yet: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82202374e8f0
# [11:53] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: :-(
# [11:55] <@smaug> mats: that amey is tiny bit annoying
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# [11:58] <edmorley> bah, we really need to start running win x64 talos on inbound, another regression https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/Z5S85krObNk
# [11:58] <edmorley> (or else decide win64 talos shouldn't run on m-c either)
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# [12:01] <Ms2ger> s/talos//
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# [12:11] <edmorley> what's 'funny' is that there are still people who somehow think that the win64 builds are in some way faster (eg see mozillazine)
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# [12:12] <edmorley> though it doesn't help that nightly.m.o doesn't add "experimental"/some kind of warning next to the windows x64 build
# [12:13] <edmorley> and https://metrics.mozilla.com/stats/firefox.shtml says there were 29128 Nightly x86 users on 19th, compared to 35825 x64
# [12:13] <edmorley> (MSVC)
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# [12:17] <lurking_work> IMO we should just hide win64 builds until which time they get promoted to tier 1
# [12:18] <Octayn> What is the advantage of win64? I've heard lots of people say that it's faster
# [12:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8822243a8d6c - Blake Kaplan - Bug 725750 - Modify this hack to include "mozilla demo". rs=cjones
# [12:19] <edmorley> lurking_work: I think I'm going to make a dev.platform (or should it be planning?) post
# [12:20] <lurking_work> only advantage is that is can use more memory making it seem faster , but for now win64 builds have not had near the optimization that the win32 have, so its actually slower in some respects
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# [12:20] <lurking_work> edmorley: I'd say planning -
# [12:20] <lurking_work> or maybe both?
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# [12:21] <m_kato> edmorley: no build pool for win64 now. so m-i is no test and no talos.
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# [12:22] <edmorley> ah ok
# [12:23] <darktrojan> NeilAway, this is valid, isn't it? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489449
# [12:23] <Ms2ger> That is correct
# [12:23] <Ms2ger> Assuming you mean aEL/rEL
# [12:24] <darktrojan> it always feels wrong listening for events after the code that should trigger them
# [12:24] <lurking_work> edmorley: probably should continue to build win64 as it was there for sanity purposes mostly to make sure something in the build-infra didn't get stupid - I'm only suggesting the builds that are produced not be made public
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# [12:26] <edmorley> I don't mind too much what decision is made either way - it just seems counter-productive to have people spending time fixing win64 issues/us pretending to call it tier 1, if we don't have proper talos coverage. And it seems worrying that over half of our Windows Nightly users are using win64 (presumably because our messaging via nightly.m.o and other channels hasn't been clear enough), which is slower and not actually test
# [12:26] <edmorley> lurking_work: ah, so turn off Nightly updates perhaps?
# [12:26] <edmorley> s/updates/builds/
# [12:27] <darktrojan> but it's so fast! http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/puaw3/firefox_nightly_is_blazing_fast/
# [12:27] <lurking_work> maybe, but the build itself should be in non-public folder so no one can get them, thus for now reducing the number of bugs filed on win64 that no one is really looking at
# [12:27] <regen> darktrojan: I wondered why 32 bit is still around and kicking
# [12:27] <lurking_work> or maybe a password access folder
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# [12:28] <edmorley> I'm going to try to consolidate my rambling ideas and post on dev.platform
# [12:28] <lurking_work> ok
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# [12:42] <NeilAway> hsivonen: except back in 1998 they weren't small; how many people could afford the 2GB to link libxul back then? personally even layout took far too long for my computers
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# [12:44] <@smaug> hmm, how much memory did my pc have 1998
# [12:44] <NeilAway> darktrojan: oh, well, tabs are always confusing, because of the about:blank loads :s
# [12:44] <@smaug> 512Mb perhaps, or 256
# [12:45] <Ms2ger> 512? That's what my laptop had in 2011
# [12:46] <@smaug> hmm, indeed, 1998
# [12:47] <darktrojan> I had 96Mb, iirc
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# [12:47] <@smaug> it was 2001 when my laptop had 256 or 512
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# [12:52] <@smaug> whaat, did we lost few days telemetry data o_O
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# [12:53] <@smaug> (but 16ms mean time for CC looks still pretty nice)
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# [12:58] <edmorley> starring on tbpl broken for anyone else? (forgets after page reload)
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# [13:01] <darktrojan> edmorley, seems to be
# [13:02] <edmorley> \o/
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# [13:09] <darktrojan> who wants to do a rubber-stamp review for me?
# [13:09] <evilpie> http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/puaw3/firefox_nightly_is_blazing_fast/ this fuzzy feeling :P
# [13:10] <@smaug> someone mentions scrolling. I've been wondering too why scrolling is so very very smooth
# [13:10] <@smaug> on linux
# [13:10] <@smaug> way better than on Opera or Chroe
# [13:10] <@smaug> Chrome
# [13:11] <Octayn> This is in nightly?.
# [13:11] <@smaug> hsivonen: did nsWebBrowserPersist::GetQuotedAttributeValue do exactly the same thing as the other GetQuotedAttributeValue
# [13:12] <Octayn> Oh wow, it is wicked smooth
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# [13:13] <hsivonen> smaug: it's used for the same purpose but is an older copy, so if there were differences, I'd expect the one I used to contain fixes
# [13:13] <hsivonen> smaug: that is, both are exclusively used for parsing pseudo attributes in processing instructions
# [13:15] <darktrojan> ah stuff it, goodnight
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# [13:28] <@smaug> hsivonen: so, nsWebBrowserPersist::GetQuotedAttributeValue doesn't handle entities
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# [13:30] <hsivonen> smaug: seems like a bug. it was copied and pasted long ago and never updated in sync
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# [13:30] <hsivonen> smaug: consider this a bug fix by side effect
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# [13:31] <@smaug> ok
# [13:32] <hsivonen> smaug: note that the entity expander that the newer flavor uses calls into expat rather than the HTML parser, so it seems to do what the xml-stylesheet spec requires
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# [13:32] <hsivonen> (rather awkward way of accomplishing that)
# [13:32] <hsivonen> (but I'm not trying to fix all the flaws in the code I'm moving from one file to another)
# [13:33] <hsivonen> (the design that you reparse the PI for each pseudo attribute sucks)
# [13:33] <@smaug> yeah
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# [13:37] <hsivonen> I wonder if there's a plan to remove the MOZ_MEDIA define and assume that Gecko always gets built with <video> support
# [13:38] <@smaug> I hope so
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# [14:12] <hsivonen> hmm. I wonder why the tryserver isn't completing builds in the usual time
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# [14:14] <sheppy> So, uh… if you restart Aurora to pick up a prompted update to a new build while at the "Well this is embarrassing" session restore window, the "Well this is embarrassing…" window is what gets saved in your session store for your next restart.
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# [14:14] <edmorley> head's up: I'll likely be closing the trees soon for bug 729074
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# [14:15] <edmorley> s/'//
# [14:16] <hsivonen> hmm. tryserver is completing builds but tbpl isn't updating
# [14:18] <edmorley> builds missing from m-c too, going to close
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# [14:26] <tonymec> luke: ping
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# [14:32] <edmorley> (trees were closed ~15 mins ago)
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# [14:34] <robcee> wunnerful
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# [14:36] <Standard8> comm-central is still open ;-)
# [14:36] <Standard8> (as we have a separate tbpl)
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# [14:37] <edmorley> I don't believe I have access to the status message for that?
# [14:37] <Standard8> edmorley: its a separate tbpl
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# [14:38] <edmorley> yeah but the main tbpl fetches the status from tinderbox
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# [14:38] <Standard8> edmorley: I was more implying that if devs can't work in m-c, they are welcome to submit patches to c-c ;-)
# [14:38] <edmorley> ah
# [14:38] <edmorley> :-)
# [14:40] <hsivonen> Standard8: I see the smiley, but more seriously, it seems hard to use Thunderbird Try for stuff that adds files to the m-c subrepo :-(
# [14:40] <Standard8> hsivonen: I don't think its that hard - just get an m-c patch and dump add it as a file
# [14:40] <Standard8> to the patch you're pushing
# [14:41] <hsivonen> Standard8: didn't work for me when the patch added new files to m-c
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# [14:41] <Standard8> hsivonen: afaik it does a hg import, so it should work fine aiui
# [14:41] <hsivonen> likely my fault, but still didn't work for me
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# [14:42] <Standard8> if there were logs or an active run about, I could probably take a look
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# [14:45] <hsivonen> Standard8: too long ago to look up the logs. sorry
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# [14:46] <Standard8> hsivonen: np, but if it happens again, feel free to ping me
# [14:46] <hsivonen> Standard8: ok
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# [15:07] <gcp> how do you undo a qfinish -a again? qimport -r tip gets one patch. there's a way to get multiple/all of them, right?
# [15:07] <@ted> yeah, you can hg qimport -rwhatever:tip i think
# [15:07] <@ted> there's not one single command to undo it, it hink
# [15:07] <@ted> unless "hg rollback" works, i'm not sure
# [15:08] <gcp> can I say "tip minus 3":tip for example?
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# [15:09] <@ted> possibly, i forget what syntax hg takes
# [15:10] <@ted> http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/hg.1.html#specifying-revision-sets
# [15:11] <@ted> try tip-3:tip
# [15:11] <@ted> er, maybe tip~3
# [15:11] <@ted> weird
# [15:11] <gcp> tip~3
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# [15:11] <gcp> yes
# [15:11] <@ted> i misread that
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# [15:24] <gcp> hmm, if I try to review patches, I get a few pixels high grey line instead of the editbox I'd expect
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# [15:25] <gcp> anyone else seeing this?
# [15:25] <edmorley> first time I've heard that excuse before... ;-)
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# [15:26] <Standard8> gcp: splinter review or normal review? Though for me both are working fine
# [15:26] <gcp> splinter
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# [15:27] <edmorley> wfm
# [15:27] <@smaug> Hrm
# [15:27] <@smaug> function nextTest(aTestNum) {
# [15:27] <@smaug> setTimeout(runTest, 50, aTestNum + 1); // XXX 40ms was too slow, why?
# [15:27] <@smaug> }
# [15:28] <gcp> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32496746/splinterbug.png
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# [15:29] <gcp> its not related to nightly btw. Internet Explorer shows the same.
# [15:30] <edmorley> autoland down :-( http://people.mozilla.org/~lsblakk/autoland_status.html
# [15:30] <@ted> smaug: :-/
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# [15:31] <PoorYoric> I haven't been able to build m-c on Windows for a few days.
# [15:31] <PoorYoric> Has something changed?
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# [15:32] <edmorley> specifically?
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# [15:33] <PoorYoric> Latest error message: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489521
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# [15:34] <PoorYoric> I have also had linking errors with sqlite symbols.
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# [15:34] <@ted> haven't heard of anything
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# [15:35] <gcp> interesting, it only happens in that bug. I can review others fine.
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# [15:35] <edmorley> PoorYoric: useful info would be pastebins of mozconfig, whether you have clobbered, what SDK, what version of MSVC, what version of mozillabuild, what command you are using to build (ideally pymake with -f client.mk), what rev of m-c etc
# [15:35] <Yoric|Poor> mozconfig: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489522
# [15:35] <Yoric|Poor> Built from clean.
# [15:36] <Yoric|Poor> Lastest mozillabuild (downloaded 2h ago).
# [15:36] <gcp> do Splinter bugs go into bugzilla component?
# [15:36] <Yoric|Poor> Command: python -OO ../build/pymake/make.py
# [15:36] <glob> gcp: product: bugzilla.mozilla.org, component: extension: splinter
# [15:36] <Yoric|Poor> Sorry, I meant python -OO build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk
# [15:37] <Yoric|Poor> Latest changeset on m-c: 87268:4038ffaa5d82
# [15:37] <Yoric|Poor> VC++ 2010
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# [15:41] <edmorley> Yoric: only thing I can suggest is stripping out the mozconfig and see if that works
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# [15:42] <edmorley> and failing that, filing in Core::Build Config
# [15:42] <Yoric|Poor> Yeah, I'll do that.
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# [15:43] <Yoric|Poor> At least, I now have a Windows machine, so compilations 1/ do not prevent me from working 2/ do not burn my wrists :)
# [15:44] <Yoric> Btw, I should mention that I am Yoric on my main machine and Yoric|Poor on the Windows machine.
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# [15:44] <Yoric> In case anyone wants to ping me :)
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# [15:46] <hsivonen> I wonder what could make a contract id lookup for a new contract id fail on try at runtime but work locally
# [15:46] <hsivonen> if try didn't clobber properly, I'd expect a build failure on try
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# [15:52] <@ted> hsivonen: packaging problem
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# [15:59] <edmorley> jacek: hasn't appeared on tbpl yet but bruning on your push https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound/rev/e80c939cc639
# [15:59] <edmorley> burning even :-)
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# [16:01] <hsivonen> ted: this failure was cross-platform, so unlikely to be packaging
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# [16:02] <hsivonen> anyway, I pushed my patches to try in smaller pieces in order to isolate
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# [16:02] <@ted> hsivonen: er, really?
# [16:03] <@ted> if you didn't package a new library or .xpt file, it's likely to be broken cross-platform
# [16:05] <jdm> woo, watching a full reftest run do its thing
# [16:05] <jdm> fun times
# [16:05] <@ted> it's kind of trippy
# [16:05] <hsivonen> ted: I didn't touch .xpt at least not explicitly
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# [16:05] <jdm> especially the inverted css 2.1 spec reftests
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# [16:06] <hsivonen> I don't really know when I should touch an .xpt file
# [16:06] <hsivonen> what does the B2G UA string look like at present?
# [16:07] <@ted> hsivonen: if you added a new directory that contains IDL files, and the MODULE or MODULE_NAME line is different from existing ones, then you need to add it to the package manifest
# [16:07] <hsivonen> ted: thanks. that must be the problem. worked locally in debug builds, though
# [16:08] <@ted> Pike: ping
# [16:08] <@ted> hsivonen: if you run from dist/bin, it will work
# [16:08] <hsivonen> ted: I see
# [16:08] <@ted> hsivonen: try running "make package", and then using the binary from dist/firefox
# [16:08] <@ted> that's the staged bits that go into the package
# [16:09] <hsivonen> hmm. lots of types of "manifest"s on MDN
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# [16:10] <Pike> ted: pong
# [16:10] <@ted> Pike: hey, i'm trying to spin a local l10n build to see if i can fix bug 602565
# [16:11] <@ted> i cloned the bn-IN repo and configured with it
# [16:11] <@ted> it chokes in toolkit/locales on the jar.mn saying there's a file missing
# [16:11] <Pike> I recommend using the aurora repo of bn-IN, fwiw, even against central
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# [16:11] <@ted> ah
# [16:11] <@ted> the central repo is missing things?
# [16:11] <Pike> and you'll need to run with l10n-merge, that is, hit the merge-l10n target first
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# [16:12] <Pike> yeah, many locales don't work on central no more these days
# [16:12] <jacek> edmorley: sorry about that, backing out
# [16:12] <edmorley> jacek: done
# [16:12] <@ted> okay
# [16:12] <Pike> also, make sure that you specify a full path for LOCALE_MERGEDIR, at least during the repack phase
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# [16:12] <edmorley> jacek: I left the other cset since had a green try run
# [16:12] <@ted> Pike: where's the aurora repo?
# [16:13] <@ted> and where do i run merge-l10n?
# [16:13] <jacek> oh, thanks. yeah, the second one seemed safer...
# [16:13] <Pike> ted: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/bn-IN/, and pip -U compare-locales; and then
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# [16:14] <@ted> l10n is hard
# [16:14] <@ted> i remember why i didn't bother trying to fix this bug in the first place
# [16:14] <Pike> make merge-bn-IN LOCALE_MERGEDIR=$PWD/merge
# [16:14] <edmorley> jacek: sorry if it ends up being just needing clobber, but I've made the mistake of trying that before and burning a pageful of other pushes in the meantime, hope that's ok
# [16:15] <@ted> i don't seem to have a pip
# [16:15] <@ted> ah, it's easy_install
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# [16:16] <@ted> Pike: what dir am i running that make in?
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# [16:16] <@ted> ah, browser/locales
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# [16:18] <@ted> Pike: so uh
# [16:18] <@ted> i just wanted to build a local bn-IN build
# [16:18] <@ted> not do a repack
# [16:18] <@khuey|away> ugh
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# [16:18] <@khuey> I hate it when hacks post something that we absolutely don't want web authors to do
# [16:19] <edmorley> khuey: the localstorage post?
# [16:19] <janv> probably
# [16:19] <@khuey> edmorley: yes
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# [16:20] <@khuey> we spent lots of engineering effort on making sure that you don't have to do shit like that
# [16:20] <Pike> ted: ohah. so you want to configure with --enable-ui-locale (or tweak autoconf.mk), and probably pass in LOCALE_MERGEDIR to your standard make target
# [16:20] <@ted> yeah, i used that
# [16:20] <@ted> what do i want LOCALE_MERGEDIR to point to?
# [16:20] <@ted> the merge dir i just created
# [16:20] <@ted> ?
# [16:20] <hsivonen> khuey: engineering effort being Indexed DB?
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# [16:20] <Pike> what you passed in when you called merge-bn-IN
# [16:20] <jfkthame> huh.... this is new, i think.... "To rerun your failures please run 'make mochitest-plain-rerun-failures'"
# [16:21] <@ted> okay
# [16:21] <@ted> jfkthame: yeah, jmaher just fixed that
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# [16:21] <jfkthame> the odd thing is that it appeared at the end of a _reftest_ run
# [16:21] <@ted> oh
# [16:21] <@ted> that's, uh
# [16:21] <edmorley> jfkthame: bug 725112 :-)
# [16:21] <@ted> not right
# [16:21] <@khuey> hsivonen: yeah ... and what janv spent a couple months doing
# [16:21] <hsivonen> khuey: but yeah, in general, it would be nice if developer engagement pinged the relevant platform engineers for post review
# [16:21] <@khuey> to add support for files
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# [16:21] <@ted> jmaher: ^^
# [16:21] <@khuey> hsivonen: indeed :-/
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# [16:23] <jfkthame> thanks guys - added a comment there
# [16:23] * Yoric just loves being bitten by #define that shadows some name.
# [16:24] <edmorley> Yoric: found the cause?
# [16:24] <PoorYoric> No, different issue on a different machine.
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# [16:24] <hsivonen> khuey: have you sent feedback to robert nyman? (if he is on IRC, I can't figure out which nick)
# [16:24] <Yoric|Poor> edmorley: I am currently rebuilding without -j4
# [16:25] <@khuey> hsivonen: not yet, after breakfast I'll deal with it
# [16:25] <jmaher> jfkthame: oh, a reftest run :(
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# [16:26] <jfkthame> jmaher: yup ... though if you can provide "make reftest-rerun-failures" as well, that'd be extra-cool
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# [16:26] <jmaher> hmm reftest and mochitest share the same error check code...
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# [16:27] <jmaher> yeah, a reftest rerun would be really cool, probably easy to do:)
# [16:27] <@smaug> khuey|away: ugh
# [16:27] <jfkthame> consider it a feature request!
# [16:28] <@smaug> localStorage :/
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# [16:29] <hsivonen> we should have a list of stuff that must not appear in Web dev-facing communication
# [16:29] <hsivonen> synchronous XHR should be on that list
# [16:29] * hsivonen goes file a bug about that
# [16:29] <@smaug> hsivonen: yeah
# [16:29] <@smaug> localStorage is way worse than sync XHR
# [16:29] <hsivonen> smaug: how so?
# [16:30] <@smaug> hsivonen: it may do sync I/O
# [16:30] <hsivonen> I see
# [16:30] <glandium> edmorley: fwiw, a clobber would have done it
# [16:30] <glandium> edmorley: wrt 729067
# [16:30] <hsivonen> smaug: why do we let if do sync IO?
# [16:31] <jdm> hsivonen: because interrupting JS and maintaining run-to-completion is hard
# [16:31] <jdm> and it's a sync API
# [16:31] <hsivonen> why do we let anything do sync IO for that matter?
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# [16:31] <hsivonen> jdm: but can't the data go into RAM and be persisted to disk asynchronously
# [16:31] <jdm> hsivonen: we actually do have an in-memory localstorage cache
# [16:31] <hsivonen> jdm: and tough luck if the browser crashes, should have used Indexed DB
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# [16:32] <edmorley> glandium: yeah thought it might, just wasn't worth burning more of the tree just in case (a green try run in-bug makes calls like this a lot easier :-))
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# [16:32] <@smaug> hsivonen: we do try to use the cache in ram, when possible. afaik
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# [16:33] <glandium> edmorley: easily checked, though (since it fails during configure)
# [16:33] <@smaug> hsivonen: also, localStorage is horrible API by design
# [16:34] <edmorley> glandium: what easily checked? by closing the tree, clobbering, retriggering, waiting 5 mins for configure to have had time to fail, then 10 more mins for tbpl to catch up?
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# [16:35] <edmorley> if so, that's still holding the tree hostage imo
# [16:35] <edmorley> :-)
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# [16:35] <glandium> edmorley: anyways, i'm telling you, these errors would have been fixed by a clobber
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# [16:36] <glandium> that's not a "should", that's a "would"
# [16:36] <edmorley> glandium: thank you :-)
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# [16:37] <Yoric> glandium: fun fact - X11/X.h #defines None. Somehow, Scoped.h does not like this.
# [16:37] <vlad> I'd figure out where that X.h include is coming from, and fix it to not include it
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# [16:37] <vlad> X is horrible for defining some common words.. worse than windows.h in some cases
# [16:37] <Yoric> vlad: from X11Util.h
# [16:38] <Yoric> And, more generally, from our gfx subsystem.
# [16:38] <Yoric> Which seems to need it, for some reason :)
# [16:38] <glandium> Yoric: fnu
# [16:38] <vlad> Yeah, though that's usually limited to X-specific files
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# [16:38] <vlad> then again, I'm assuming that Scoped.h is a generic thing
# [16:39] <Yoric> glandium: "fnu"? What does that mean?
# [16:39] <Yoric> Ah, maybe "fun".
# [16:39] <Yoric> vlad: Indeed.
# [16:39] <Yoric> It is a mfbt header, defining Scoped pointer stuff.
# [16:39] <vlad> nod
# [16:40] <armenzg> espindola: I guess we can now do builds on 10.6 for 10.5 debug builds for ESR? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489546
# [16:40] <mjessome> froydnj: That job that you're trying to land to Try right now, I see that you've put in an order, but for some reason the tools aren't liking it (still applying in the wrong order). I'm going to do a quick debug and I'll have it fixed asap. Sorry about that
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# [16:40] <vlad> I'd add some #undefs to X11Util.h, or better yet, give X11Util typedefs for the X types that it needs
# [16:40] <Yoric> For the moment, I have added an #undef.
# [16:41] <vlad> since I'm pretty sure it's just Display, XErrorEvent, VisualID
# [16:41] <froydnj> mjessome: thanks! was just about to ask who/where to poke
# [16:41] <Yoric> I do not want to take the chance of messing with our gfx system.
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# [16:41] <vlad> meh, mess away!
# [16:42] <glandium> Yoric: you could just change None in Scope. it's not like there's a huge requirement for that method to be called None
# [16:42] <Yoric> I would like to push forward _my_ bugs, once in a while.
# [16:42] <Yoric> glandium: sure, I could.
# [16:43] <Yoric> vlad: Looks like #undef would not work.
# [16:43] <vlad> why?
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# [16:43] <espindola> armenzg, I think so
# [16:43] <armenzg> sweet!
# [16:43] <Yoric> vlad: well, because we actually use this None.
# [16:43] <espindola> not 100% update on how the branches and everything work
# [16:43] <espindola> bit I think it has been pushed everywhere it needs to be
# [16:43] <Yoric> And since it seems to be an equivalent of NULL, I would not want to mess with it too much.
# [16:44] <vlad> It's just 0
# [16:44] <armenzg> espindola: I believe so too
# [16:44] <armenzg> 3.6 is not important anymore for patches like that
# [16:44] <froydnj> firebot uuid
# [16:44] <firebot> 2bc8fdb8-0a7b-4c02-8c54-e5300fb44125 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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# [16:45] <edmorley> s/for patches like that//
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# [16:45] <Yoric> vlad: sure.
# [16:45] <Yoric> vlad: in a cross-type-and-enumeration way.
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# [16:45] <Yoric> glandium: to which name would you rename it?
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# [16:45] <Yoric> Uppercase |NONE|, |FreeState|, |Empty|?
# [16:46] <vlad> I would not rename mozilla enum API to something unnatural just to get aroud X stupidity :p
# [16:46] <vlad> around
# [16:46] <glandium> Yoric: whatever you see fit, i don't care :)
# [16:46] <Yoric> vlad: Well, it is a new API, so I can afford to rename things around.
# [16:47] <vlad> sure, but I wouldn't create an unnatural API
# [16:47] <vlad> like all caps vs studly caps etc.
# [16:47] <glandium> vlad: note that it's not for an enum
# [16:47] <glandium> vlad: it's for traits
# [16:47] <vlad> same difference :)
# [16:47] <Yoric> It is actually a method name.
# [16:47] <vlad> something that comes with a set
# [16:47] <vlad> er, in a set with other names
# [16:48] <glandium> Yoric: that it's a method is an implementation detail ;)
# [16:48] <Yoric> :)
# [16:48] <Yoric> It is a name-in-a-struct :)
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# [17:02] <jdm> I think that should be changed
# [17:02] <jdm> we should probably require proper trychooser syntax for every autolanding
# [17:03] <edmorley> we need a syntax generator for it :-)
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# [17:03] <Yoric|Poor> Obviously someone had the same issue as me: http://pastebin.com/4mfnJBe5
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# [17:04] <edmorley> july 2011
# [17:04] <@ted> Pike: neat, i have a bn-IN firefox
# [17:04] <edmorley> good find :-)
# [17:04] <@ted> except the crashreporter didn't seem to get localized
# [17:04] <@ted> which is the whole point of this exercise
# [17:05] <Pike> ted: hrmpf
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# [17:07] <glob> jdm, the UI is planned to be changed; do you want to comment on bug 726193 ?
# [17:07] <Pike> ted: the file browser/crashreporter/crashreporter-override.ini is there and in bn-IN, just copy it over
# [17:07] <Pike> ?
# [17:07] <Pike> not that I really know how stuff looks on windows these days
# [17:07] <jdm> glob: oh, excellent
# [17:07] <@ted> Pike: i'm looking at crashreporter.ini
# [17:08] <@ted> oh well
# [17:08] <@ted> whatever
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# [17:21] <glob> jdm, https://bugzilla-stage-tip.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685563
# [17:22] <drice> biesi: ping?
# [17:22] <biesi> pong
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# [17:22] <drice> Regarding nsACString(_internal).Assign: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489555 I'm worried about the OOM case.
# [17:22] <drice> According to the wiki, it should have 0 length if OOM, but my reading of the implementation leaves it unmodified.
# [17:22] <drice> Should I truncate prior to Assign and then check against 0 length?
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# [17:24] <biesi> drice, don't bother
# [17:25] <biesi> drice, we don't care about Assign failing in much more important code than this
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# [17:25] <drice> biesi: alrighty. Thanks.
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# [17:32] <gavin> smaug: pong
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# [17:33] <smaug> gavin: I was going to ask something about formfillcontroller
# [17:33] <smaug> but don't remember what :)
# [17:34] <gavin> you kicked me!
# [17:34] <gavin> you'd think it would be memorable :)
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# [17:35] <smaug> gavin: it was about leaking
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# [17:36] <smaug> gavin: MarkAsLoginManagerField
# [17:36] <smaug> nothing seems to guarantee that those fields are ever removed
# [17:36] <smaug> but I'm fixing it
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# [17:37] <smaug> once I figure out one strange test failure
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# [17:37] <gavin> I didn't write that code! :)
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# [17:38] <drice> biesi: Any suggestions for the scope of automated tests? Just some basic "does it blow up?" tests or should I try to be exhaustive?
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# [17:41] <@bz> how do I "cc" myself on a github issue?
# [17:41] <biesi> drice, how are you going to test this at all?
# [17:41] <biesi> hmm I have to go
# [17:41] <drice> biesi: alright, NP. Thanks.
# [17:41] <jdm> bz: see the "enable notifications" link at the bottom under the comments
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# [17:42] <smaug> Honza: thanks for the addon
# [17:42] <smaug> looks *a lot * better than my about:cc :)
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# [17:43] <@bz> jdm: perfect, thanks
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# [17:44] <edmorley> decoder: the failure on your inbound push is just due to a periodic clobber happening to hit on the push that was backed out earlier, I'll clobber and retrigger
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# [17:46] <jmaher> thanks edmorley
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# [17:48] <Honza> smaug: :-)
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# [17:48] <Honza> smaug: I am still fighting with how to properly query the graph to get the best results
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# [17:49] <Honza> smaug: also, having yet more info wouldn't hurt
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# [17:49] <smaug> Honza: would be nice if one could click in the graph the name or address of some object to get details
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# [17:50] <smaug> Honza: and perhaps there could be several details tabs
# [17:50] <smaug> I mean for different objects
# [17:50] <Honza> yep, I have been already thinking about more tabs too
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# [17:50] <@bz> man
# [17:50] <Honza> the link could also display a tooltip, since there is not that much about one object
# [17:50] <@bz> githi
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# [17:51] <@bz> using github's issue search after being used to bugzilla is like driving with my hands tied behind my back. :(
# [17:51] <froydnj> wonder if mfbt should have intToPtr and ptrToInt<> functions
# [17:51] <smaug> Honza: what more info would you need...
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# [17:51] <Honza> smaug: I thing that what would help the most would be real object properties
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# [17:52] <Honza> smaug: would that be doable?
# [17:52] <smaug> well, this is CC log
# [17:52] <smaug> not GC log
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# [17:52] <Honza> what is the difference actually?
# [17:52] <smaug> I'm not sure if GC log can be created only in debug buidls
# [17:52] <smaug> builds
# [17:53] <Honza> Ah
# [17:53] <smaug> well, CC tracks mainly cycles between C++ objects
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# [17:53] <Honza> but you know the address no?
# [17:53] <edmorley> jmaher: np :-)
# [17:53] <smaug> of js objects? yes
# [17:54] <Honza> Wouldn't it be possible to get more info through it?
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# [17:54] <smaug> probably
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# [17:54] <smaug> Honza: also, you may want to try allTraces
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# [17:54] <Honza> yes, I didn't yet
# [17:54] <smaug> nsICycleCollectorListener::allTraces()
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# [17:54] <smaug> it creates a lot larger log, but can be useful in somecases
# [17:55] <Honza> So, what are the additional objets?
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# [17:55] <smaug> Honza: allTraces disables most of the optimizations
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# [17:55] <Honza> So, I can get also objectes, which are actually still needed (referenced)
# [17:55] <Honza> correct?
# [17:56] <smaug> yes, you'll get more such objects
# [17:56] <Honza> That could be very interesting if I could find JS object (from JS) according to the address...
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# [17:56] <smaug> usually cc log contains always alive objects
# [17:56] <Honza> I see
# [17:56] <smaug> but I've tried to reduce how many objects there are
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# [17:58] <Honza> One of the problems, when hunting mem leaks, is to match the objects in the log with objects in the code. So, having something like Object.getObject(address) could give the exactly the object in JS
# [17:58] <Honza> smaug: would this be doable?
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# [17:59] <smaug> dunno
# [17:59] <smaug> Honza: would be better to ask #jsapi
# [17:59] <Honza> ok, will do
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# [18:00] <smaug> Honza: I wonder if the new JS debugging APIs have something for that already
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# [18:01] <jorendorff> we don't have anything like that
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# [18:04] <jdm> if I add an inline virtual function in a %{C++ block in nsIFoo.idl, will that cause problems for any class that inherits from nsIFoo and then nsIBar?
# [18:04] <jdm> I am suspicious that it would
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# [18:06] <smaug> jdm: why would it?
# [18:06] <jdm> smaug: because xpconnect wouldn't know about the extra function
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# [18:07] <smaug> jdm: well, nsIDOMEventTarget has all sorts of C++ code http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/events/nsIDOMEventTarget.idl
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# [18:07] <smaug> couldn't you just use [noscript, nostdcall]
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# [18:08] <smaug> or [notxpcom, nostdcall]
# [18:08] <jdm> smaug: those are inline, not virtual
# [18:08] <smaug> (too many no*s to remember)
# [18:08] <jdm> oh wait
# [18:08] <jdm> I could do that too
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# [18:08] <smaug> those are virtual
# [18:08] <smaug> I mean in C++ code
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# [18:09] <jdm> smaug: "// non-virtual so it won't affect the vtable"
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# [18:09] <smaug> jdm: I mean [noscript, nostdcall]
# [18:09] <smaug> that ends up being virtual
# [18:10] <jdm> ah, yes
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# [18:10] <smaug> [notxpcom, nostdcall] is probably better
# [18:10] <jdm> I think I can avoid all of the problems by using the same inline definition
# [18:10] <smaug> way too many no*s
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# [18:15] <gavin> oh, there it goes
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# [18:20] <tbsaunde> sampson stratosphere
# [18:20] <tbsaunde> I can find model number if it helps
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# [18:21] <@bz> and their title contains HTML
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# [18:24] <smaug> firebot: njn
# [18:24] <firebot> smaug: njn is the nanojit master
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# [18:25] <decoder> luke: okay, ill try out in a few thx =)
# [18:25] <jhammel> i thought njn stood for nanojit ninja
# [18:25] <luke> sweet
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# [18:29] <@bz> does kaie actually do reviews?
# [18:29] <@bz> alternately, does bsmith do reviews for the security UI code?
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# [18:29] <Waldo> we have security UI?
# [18:29] <@bz> yes
# [18:29] <gaston> kaie doesnt do much review from my experience :)
# [18:29] <kaie> I do, but I rarely find time to do it
# [18:30] <Waldo> itym "yes"
# [18:30] <@bz> the url bar color and stuff
# [18:30] <Waldo> oh, that
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# [18:30] <kaie> I do when people tell me by email "it's important, do it now"
# [18:30] <@bz> kaie: ok; is there anyone else to ask for securityuiimpl reviews?
# [18:30] <Waldo> I guess that's legit UI :-)
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# [18:30] <derf> We have lots of security UI.
# [18:30] <derf> Like all the messages you don't read when you get a certificate error.
# [18:30] <Waldo> that's not UI, that's infodump :-P
# [18:30] <gaston> bz: you want to make the url bar rainbowed ? :)
# [18:31] <kaie> bz, are you asking in general, or is about a specific bug?
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# [18:31] <@bz> kaie: specific bug. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722037
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# [18:32] <kaie> I'll review it, thanks for working on this
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# [18:33] <@ted> you know
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# [18:33] <@ted> this google search sniffing problem feels like a feature, not a bug
# [18:33] <@ted> it's less cluttered
# [18:33] <@ted> and no ads
# [18:33] <Waldo> "search sniffing problem"?
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# [18:33] <biesi> lol
# [18:34] <sheppy> Sounds naughty.
# [18:34] <jdm> ted: heck yes
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# [18:34] <jdm> let's add it to our marketing
# [18:34] <@bz> kaie: thanks!
# [18:34] <jdm> "revert the ugly new google interface!"
# [18:34] <@bz> clang question
# [18:34] <biesi> Waldo, upgrade to nightly, use google
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# [18:34] <biesi> Waldo, the sniffing problem is obvious :L)
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# [18:34] <@bz> does just tossing a symlink to ccache in my PATH before the real clang make things work right?
# [18:35] <@ted> bz: you have to explicitly --with-ccache for our build
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# [18:36] <@bz> ted: hmm
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# [18:36] <@bz> ted: for clang specifically?
# [18:36] <@bz> ted: or in general?
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# [18:36] <@ted> bz: in genera
# [18:36] <@ted> l
# [18:36] * @bz is not using that with gcc and ccache seems to work ok..
# [18:36] <@ted> oh?
# [18:36] <@bz> ted: what does that do?
# [18:36] <@ted> whatd you do, just symlink ccache to gcc?
# [18:37] <@bz> ls -l ~/bin/gcc-4.2
# [18:37] <@bz> lrwxr-xr-x 1 bzbarsky staff 21 Aug 27 2010 /Users/bzbarsky/bin/gcc-4.2 -> /opt/local/bin/ccache*
# [18:37] <@bz> and that comes in my PATH before the real gcc-4.2
# [18:37] <@ted> --with-ccache just sets your CC etc to "ccache $CC"
# [18:37] <@ted> so you don't have to do all this fiddling
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# [18:37] <@bz> ah, nice
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# [18:39] <tbsaunde> ted: on the other hand fiddling with $PATH makes things other than mozilla use ccache so...
# [18:39] <Waldo> fedora just makes gcc a symlink to clang as well
# [18:39] <Waldo> and has for awhile
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# [18:39] <Waldo> handy, things just working
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# [18:39] <@ted> tbsaunde: i suppose
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# [18:40] <tbsaunde> Waldo: fedora is shipping clang as the default cc O.O
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# [18:42] <Waldo> tbsaunde: er, sorry, misspoke, meant gcc
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# [18:43] <Waldo> ted: so, biesi says this sniffing thing is obvious, but it's not to me -- what is this?
# [18:43] <smaug> gps: ping
# [18:43] <@bz> sniffing thing?
# [18:43] <gps> smaug: pong
# [18:44] <Waldo> "this google search sniffing problem feels like a feature, not a bug"
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# [18:44] <gavin> google results being messed up/broken is a feature?
# [18:44] <smaug> gps: any idea what could lead to http://mibpaste.com/7BiFUc
# [18:45] <Waldo> searching seems to work for me...
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# [18:45] <gavin> well the UA change was backed out
# [18:45] <@ted> Waldo: the google search results page uses some old style
# [18:46] <gps> smaug: you need a clobber build?
# [18:46] <gavin> but even if you're using an affected build, it only affected some configurations/terms
# [18:46] * @ted is still on yesterday's build
# [18:46] <gavin> depended on whether you're signed in, what search you used, whether you got redirected to a localized version, etc.
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# [18:46] <@ted> mine doesn't look broken
# [18:46] <@ted> just outdated
# [18:46] <@ted> but i like it
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# [18:47] <Waldo> ted: http://web.mit.edu/jwalden/www/sniffing.png is what I see...
# [18:47] <gps> yay - Clang talk! If anyone is interested, I have Jenkins builders churning through m-c and m-i on Clang 3.0 and Clang SVN HEAD at http://jenkins.gregoryszorc.com:9000/. NO MOAR CLANG BREAKAGE
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# [18:47] <@ted> yeah, not that
# [18:47] <Waldo> and that's with today's nightly
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# [18:47] <Waldo> hum
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# [18:48] <gps> also, Clang SVN uses 15% less CPU cycles than GCC 4.6 on clobber builds
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# [18:50] <@ted> Waldo: http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/google.png
# [18:50] <@ted> that
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# [18:51] <smaug> I like the old style google page
# [18:51] <@ted> me too
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# [18:53] <Waldo> ted: cut out the white doubled-up search bar and that's not half bad
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# [18:54] <@ted> yeah
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# [18:59] <@bz> man
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# [18:59] <@bz> so many warnings with clang....
# [18:59] <Waldo> I rampaged through some directories a couple Sundays during football season while watching games
# [19:00] <Waldo> unfortunately the season's ended, so that's not likely to happen too soon for me :-\
# [19:00] <@bz> heh
# [19:00] <@bz> do CC and CXX make any sense as mk_add_options options
# [19:00] <@bz> ?
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# [19:01] <Waldo> I though you just exported those in your mozconfig
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# [19:01] <gerv> hg question:
# [19:01] <gerv> gerv@mink:/usr/src/mozilla-inbound$ hg push
# [19:01] <gerv> pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/
# [19:01] <gerv> searching for changes
# [19:01] <gerv> abort: push creates new remote heads on branch 'default'!
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# [19:01] <gerv> gerv@mink:/usr/src/mozilla-inbound$ hg pull --rebase
# [19:01] <gerv> pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/
# [19:01] <gerv> searching for changes
# [19:01] <gerv> no changes found
# [19:01] <gerv> ???
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# [19:01] <gerv> (I have three local checkins I want to push.)
# [19:02] <Waldo> gerv: pull --rebase doesn't also update, could you have pulled in the changes locally already?
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# [19:02] <Waldo> well, pul --rebase does update, but only if it pulled something too
# [19:02] <gerv> OK, yes, I think I have the changes locally.
# [19:02] <gerv> gerv@mink:/usr/src/mozilla-inbound$ hg rebase
# [19:02] <gerv> nothing to rebase
# [19:03] <Pike> gerv: you're having a head from central
# [19:03] <Pike> push just the revision you want to push, with -r
# [19:03] <Pike> assumption: did that a few days ago
# [19:03] <gerv> Pike: I'm not sure I understand you.
# [19:03] <Pike> if that's a clone from central, that is
# [19:03] <gerv> No, it's a clone from inbound.
# [19:04] <gerv> Note the directory name ;-)
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# [19:04] <Pike> oh
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# [19:04] <Pike> yeah, figured so later, but also noting that I had tried to take a shortcut
# [19:04] <Pike> gerv: what does hg out say?
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# [19:04] <gerv> It lists 3 changesets.
# [19:05] <gerv> I can paste 20 lines of output if you like :-)
# [19:05] <gerv> gerv@mink:/usr/src/mozilla-inbound$ hg out
# [19:05] <gerv> comparing with ssh://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/
# [19:05] <gerv> searching for changes
# [19:05] <gerv> changeset: 87304:894767a56d83
# [19:05] <gerv> ...
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# [19:05] <gerv> date: Tue Feb 21 17:52:06 2012 +0000
# [19:05] <gerv> summary: Bug 704089 - add .<Srb> to IDN TLD whitelist.
# [19:05] <Pike> pastebin ftw
# [19:05] <gerv> OK...
# [19:05] <gerv> http://pastebin.com/CXY7GjUu
# [19:05] <gerv> Seems pretty normal to me.
# [19:05] <NeilAway> bz: I assume it is just javascript images that you want to whitelist?
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# [19:06] <Pike> gerv: hg heads default ?
# [19:07] <gerv> Ah.
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# [19:07] <gerv> Two more changesets - one of mine, one random one of someone else's.
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# [19:07] <gavin> hg rebase -s 894767a56d83 -d <random one of someone else's>
# [19:07] <Pike> you need to merge or rebase your stuff on top
# [19:07] <gerv> The one of mine could be removed with hg rollback if necessary.
# [19:07] <gerv> OK, thanks :-)
# [19:08] <gerv> OK, that moved their random one onto my pile,
# [19:08] <gerv> but my last one is still there under hg heads default...
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# [19:08] <Pike> I wish I wouldn't be able to help in cases like this, it shows I've gone through way too much. oth, if we'd use git, I'd go through the same mess, without being able to help
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# [19:09] <jdm> lsblakk: ping
# [19:09] <Pike> ouch, wrong rebase :-(
# [19:09] * gerv looks at Pike
# [19:09] <gavin> gerv: "onto your pile"?
# [19:09] <gerv> gavin: actually, that's not so right.
# [19:09] <gerv> Forget that bit.
# [19:09] <gavin> yours should be the only one in hg heads default
# [19:09] <gerv> What I now have is:
# [19:10] <gerv> My most recent checkin in hg heads default
# [19:10] <gerv> and my three checkins in hg outgoing.l
# [19:10] <gerv> But hg push still doesn't work.
# [19:10] * gerv sighs
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# [19:10] <gavin> how does it fail?/
# [19:10] <lsblakk> jdm: pong
# [19:10] <gerv> New remote heads.
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# [19:11] <@bz> waldo: my mozconfig does both
# [19:11] <Pike> gerv: hg inc still empty?
# [19:11] <gavin> gerv: has someone else piushed since you pulled?
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# [19:11] <gerv> gavin: I think what happened is this:
# [19:11] <Waldo> I didn't think the mk_* versions actually did anything, but I could be wrong about that
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# [19:11] <gerv> I committed one change locally.
# [19:11] <gerv> Then another.
# [19:11] <gerv> Then someone checked in remotely.
# [19:11] <gerv> Then I did hg pull -u.
# [19:11] <gerv> Then I committed a third change.
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# [19:12] <gerv> Pike: hg inc has one entry.
# [19:12] <Waldo> landing in inbound is collidy, for sure
# [19:12] <@bz> ok
# [19:12] <@bz> gerv: ok, so either merge, or qimport, qpop, up to new head, qpush
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# [19:13] <gerv> bz: I'm not using q.
# [19:13] <gerv> So it looks like it's hg merge, with a merge commit?
# [19:13] <@bz> gerv: doesn't matter
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# [19:13] <gavin> just hg pull --rebase
# [19:13] <@bz> gerv: you can use it for just this
# [19:13] <gerv> Ah. hg pull --rebase now does something.
# [19:13] <@bz> gerv: and nothing else
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# [19:13] * @bz so does not trust rebase
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# [19:13] <Pike> poor bz
# [19:13] <gerv> And hg push now works.
# [19:13] <gerv> Thanks guys :-)
# [19:13] <@bz> After my experiences with the dom bindings branch, I'm not even sure I trust merge. :(
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# [19:14] * gerv thinks his use of hg is probably not in bz's league.
# [19:14] <@bz> given the mismerges I saw it creating
# [19:14] <gerv> Thanks, gavin.
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# [19:15] <Pike> bz: but that's probably applying to any VCS?
# [19:15] <@bz> Pike: well, yes
# [19:15] <@bz> Pike: but the point is, a merge fail on a qpush will generally say so
# [19:15] <@bz> Pike: more than an hg merge
# [19:15] <@bz> Pike: in my experience
# [19:16] <@bz> Pike: which could, admittedly, just be biased
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# [19:16] * Pike 's been through horrible conflict hells on rebasing in git, so expectations are low
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# [19:17] <Waldo> rebase has been pretty reliable in my experience
# [19:17] <@bz> see, conflict hell is one thing
# [19:17] <@bz> silently mis-merging without any conflict notification is another
# [19:17] <Waldo> although after a rebase I'll occasionally do a while-qpu-and-build loop to make sure every change works
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# [19:17] <@bz> I would _much_ rather have conflict hell
# [19:17] <Pike> bz: true
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# [19:35] <@khuey> sheppy: ping
# [19:36] <sheppy> khuey: pong
# [19:36] <@khuey> sheppy: is there an irc channel where I can find the people who do hacks.m.o?
# [19:37] <sheppy> You can try #devrel
# [19:37] <NeilAway> bz: that reminds me of older versions of hg would would silently fail to update to an earlier revision, instead just leaving the current version of the conflicting file in the working directory :s
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# [19:38] <gavin> mccr8: I broke mochitest-oth on beta, I just pushed a fix on top of your push
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# [19:38] <gavin> so the browser_homeDrop failures on your push are mine, and should be fixed!
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# [19:44] <jduell> smaug: ping
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# [19:45] <smaug> jduell: pong
# [19:45] <jduell> smaug: what do you think of my alternative hack to catch ghost ws in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696085#c23
# [19:45] <jduell> ie. having the WS protocol handler keep track of windows that have had Cancel called on their websockets
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# [19:47] <smaug> jduell: "we could then block any new websockets from being created by that window"
# [19:47] <smaug> well, a window can come out from bfcache
# [19:47] <smaug> and become the current inner window again
# [19:48] <jduell> smaug: would it get an unthaw event if that's the case?
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# [19:48] <mccr8> gavin: thanks for letting me know!
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# [19:48] <smaug> jduell: when the window is moved out from bfcache it get thaw() call (or whatever the method name is)
# [19:49] <jduell> smaug: or in my idea I mention stopping tracking of the window once we get a freeze/destroy notification for it, so bfcache would work ok?
# [19:49] <jduell> i.e we'd only keep track of the window in between Cancel->destroy/frozen.
# [19:50] <jduell> smaug: But i don't know if Cancel gives us the guarantee that the window is going to be frozen/destoyed. Does it?
# [19:50] <smaug> I don't know about that cancel
# [19:50] <smaug> do we get cancel when someone clicks stop while page is still loading
# [19:50] <jduell> smaug: my understanding is yes
# [19:50] <smaug> ws should still work in that case
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# [19:51] <smaug> well, I mean script which runs after stop should be able to start ws
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# [19:52] <jduell> smaug: well, maybe the hack we've got is good enough. I hate that we can't stop the ghost ws from connecting to the server.
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# [19:52] * @bz wishes that people who don't use some functionality wouldn't muck with it. :(
# [19:52] <jduell> I hope it's rare.
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# [19:53] <mjessome> froydnj: I've fixed and tested the patch ordering, and it looks like it's back in order. If you want to reflag that patch with ordering, that'd be great, and I'll keep an eye on it
# [19:53] <@bsmedberg> glandium: ping
# [19:53] <@bz> man
# [19:54] <@bz> the warnings from nsDocument.cpp on clang, complete with the insane whitespace, are ridiculous. :(
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# [19:54] <@bsmedberg> bz: the warnings are ridiculous, or the code which caused the warnings is?
# [19:54] <glandium> bsmedberg: pong
# [19:54] <smaug> clang's warnings are annoying
# [19:54] <@bsmedberg> glandium: libmozglue.so is android-specific?
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# [19:54] <smaug> it gives so many useless warnings that I've stopped looking at warnings at all
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# [19:56] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's not, but for the matter of bug 728071, it is
# [19:56] <@bsmedberg> glandium: can you explain what it is, then?
# [19:56] * @bsmedberg wonders why it's being built so early that we don't have NSPR headers yet.
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# [19:59] <glandium> bsmedberg: on all platforms, it contains jemalloc and mfbt stuff that is not inlined. on android, it also contains the linker and android glue
# [19:59] <glandium> bsmedberg: basically, it's because of jemalloc and mfbt that it needs to be built before nspr
# [19:59] <Waldo> clang's warnings aren't useless, they're correct
# [19:59] <glandium> jemalloc only, actually
# [19:59] <@bz> bsmedberg: the formatting of the warnings
# [19:59] <@bz> here, let me just pastebin
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# [19:59] <glandium> bsmedberg: because everything, including nspr, links against jemalloc
# [19:59] <Waldo> deleting through a derived class without a virtual destructor, as we do, is more dangerous than we treat it
# [19:59] <@bsmedberg> glandium: so, I don't think that we ought to build the xulappdata struct into that lib in general, but rather the firefox binary
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> this may be different on android because it doesn't have a main binary?
# [20:00] <glandium> bsmedberg: there is no firefox binary on android
# [20:00] <glandium> bsmedberg: and the android glue acts as the firefox binary, essentially
# [20:00] <@bz> In particular, the attempt to point to the right column
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> the java glue...?
# [20:00] <@bz> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489628
# [20:00] <@bz> Which for a long enough line looks like crap
# [20:00] <@bz> and in particular completely hides the actual warning behind a wall of whitespace
# [20:00] <@bsmedberg> bz: use emacs ;-)
# [20:01] <glandium> bsmedberg: jni stubs, library loading functions, and libxul initialization callers
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# [20:01] <jdm> holy crap
# [20:01] <@bz> bsmedberg: meh
# [20:01] <Waldo> bz: don't use cracktastic macros
# [20:01] <Waldo> :-P
# [20:01] <@bz> the macro is NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1
# [20:01] * Waldo wanders over to warpcore for the platform meeting
# [20:01] <@bz> it could be way worse
# [20:01] <@bz> could be an NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS8
# [20:02] <jdm> or the newly-minted NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS11 that I had to create
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# [20:02] <@bz> In any case
# [20:03] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I'm just wondering if we're only sticking this into libmozglue on android and don't plan to on desktop
# [20:03] <@bz> these warnings suck
# [20:03] <@bz> a lot
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# [20:03] <@dolske> jdm: so... NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS now goes up to 11? \m/
# [20:03] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's android only
# [20:03] <jdm> dolske++
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# [20:04] <glandium> bsmedberg: as a matter of fact, the file including it is under mozglue/android ;)
# [20:04] <jhammel> dolske++
# [20:04] <@bsmedberg> glandium: can we use mozilla/StdInt.h to have fixed-size ints for this struct still?
# [20:04] * @bz also wonder why people fuck with other people's whiteboard annotations
# [20:04] <glandium> bsmedberg: sure we could
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# [20:04] <jhammel> bz: i assume for the same reason people assign the wrong people to bugs and then ask why they haven't fixed it yet?
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# [20:05] <glandium> bsmedberg: (mozglue can use mfbt)
# [20:06] <Waldo> \o/
# [20:06] <froydnj> mjessome: thanks! bug flagged.
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# [20:06] <glandium> bsmedberg: do i take it that you'd r+ if i s/unsigned int/uint32_t/ ?
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# [20:06] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I'm putting notes in the bug
# [20:06] <glandium> bsmedberg: ok
# [20:06] <glandium> thanks
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# [20:07] <@khuey> oh god
# [20:07] <@khuey> are we really talking about NS_ENSURE* again?
# [20:07] <glandium> khuey: it seems so
# [20:07] <jdm> :(
# [20:08] <@bz> jhammel: possible
# [20:08] <@bz> khuey: it's like probing a loose tooth
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# [20:08] * smaug could always repeat himself... NS_ENSURE_ macros are very useful
# [20:08] <froydnj> more like probing a pulled tooth
# [20:08] * Waldo prefers to think of it like duct tape
# [20:08] <Waldo> gotta rip it off all at once
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# [20:09] <jdm> Waldo: is that something you're... experienced with?
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# [20:09] <smaug> I'll stop debugging anything if we get rid of NS_ENSURE_ macros :)
# [20:09] <Ms2ger> Likewise
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> Not that I debug anything now :)
# [20:10] <@bz> The real question is how many people will stop buggigying
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# [20:10] <mjessome> froydnj: \o/ worked, thanks for bearing with us :)
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# [20:10] <@bz> er, buggifying
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# [20:10] <Ms2ger> philor, edmorley, thanks for starring/retriggering
# [20:10] <froydnj> mjessome++ what was the bug?
# [20:10] <edmorley> Ms2ger: np
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# [20:11] <mjessome> froydnj: Just an issue with how messages were being constructed and sent to workers. It wasn't properly preserving specified patch order.
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# [20:13] <jdm> hee hee, I like Eitan's tl;dr in m.d.platform
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# [20:14] <jdm> mjessome: what are your thoughts on requiring trychooser syntax for all autoland-try annotations?
# [20:14] <Waldo> jdm: not personally :-)
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# [20:15] <lsblakk> jdm: we can't require that yet - but we could put in a very tight default
# [20:15] <jdm> lsblakk: I just noticed that virtually every autolanded try push is doing a full test run - a tighter default sounds like a good idea to me
# [20:15] <mjessome> jdm: Requiring I think it would take a bit away from the simplicities of autoland, although I would like to find a good default syntax
# [20:15] <jdm> lsblakk: ooc, why can't you require that?
# [20:15] <Waldo> jdm: heh, yeah
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# [20:15] <lsblakk> we can't restrict what someone enters in the whiteboard tag jdm
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# [20:16] <lsblakk> not like with the hg hook
# [20:16] <jdm> lsblakk: well, you can not push if the syntax isn't there
# [20:16] <@bz> I think having a default of "run all correctness tests but not talos"
# [20:16] <lsblakk> on the try repo
# [20:16] <@bz> would make a lot of sense....
# [20:16] <lsblakk> ah but that means having a lot of bug noise for incorrect syntax
# [20:16] <lsblakk> seems like it would piss more people off than help them
# [20:16] <jrmuizel> ehsan: ping
# [20:16] <lsblakk> at least with the push, you learn right away
# [20:16] <lsblakk> and it's quick to fix
# [20:16] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: hey
# [20:16] <Waldo> bz: didn't we kinda have that and dump it so that people would have to affirmatively choose what to do, to save resources?
# [20:16] <@bz> for pushes, yes
# [20:16] * Waldo thought that was a Good Thing
# [20:17] <jrmuizel> ehsan: my profiling build is stuck on the 18th of Feb
# [20:17] * @bz notes that generally he just does that anyway
# [20:17] <lsblakk> jdm: i'd be up for limiting an autoland push to just builds on linux unless you ask for something custom
# [20:17] <@bz> because 99% of the time it's what I want
# [20:17] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: yeah fixed it this morning
# [20:17] <lsblakk> jdm: or perhaps, just builds period
# [20:17] <jrmuizel> ehsan: great
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# [20:17] <lsblakk> that would require people to at least *think* about what they actually want
# [20:17] <lsblakk> (which is the goal with the try hook too)
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# [20:19] <jdm> lsblakk: what about emailing the initiator to inform them that the autoland was rejected? it avoids bug noise that way.
# [20:19] <lsblakk> jdm: we are currently avoiding out-of-band communication in the autoland system, it's a bug comment feedback loop atm
# [20:20] <mjessome> I would like to change the default try syntax to something a little more restrictive, however I'm not exactly sure what the best choice would be in terms of what most developers use regularly.
# [20:20] <lsblakk> definitely turning off tests by default will save resources
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# [20:22] <NeilAway> jdm++
# [20:22] <@bsmedberg> jlebar|mac: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=597957&action=diff#a/xpcom/tests/static-checker/override-namespace-typedef.cpp_sec1 why is MOZ_OVERRIDE in front instead of at the end?
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# [20:28] <bhearsum> how do i get a list of all the heads in a repository (or on a branch) in git?
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# [20:28] <froydnj> git branch?
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# [20:29] <bhearsum> i don't think that gives me all of them
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# [20:29] <bhearsum> i'm pretty sure i have multiple heads on the "master" line right now...
# [20:29] <mbrubeck> Note that there are no "multiple heads" in a branch in git... a branch is just a named "head"
# [20:29] <mbrubeck> look in .git/refs/heads/
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# [20:30] <bhearsum> hm
# [20:30] <bhearsum> ok
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# [20:30] <bhearsum> so i want commits without children, i guess
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# [20:30] <bhearsum> that directory only has "master" in it
# [20:31] <bhearsum> maybe this repo is in a different state than i thought....
# [20:31] <espindola> ted: is there a way for more information to be added to a crash report?
# [20:31] <espindola> a js backtrace in https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/1326c731-c2a4-4cc1-906d-9ecfd2120221
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# [20:31] <espindola> would be very useful
# [20:31] <jst> bz: ?
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# [20:32] <froydnj> bhearsum: unless you want remote branches, too?
# [20:32] <@ted> espindola: JS backtraces are hard
# [20:32] <espindola> ted: what about one small string?
# [20:32] <bhearsum> froydnj: nope, i was basically just looking for the git equivalent of 'hg heads'
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# [20:32] <bhearsum> but now that i inspect this repo further, i don't think that's what's going to help me here
# [20:32] <@ted> espindola: "it depends"
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# [20:33] <@ted> generally we have to be very cautious about doing anything after a crash has occurred
# [20:33] <espindola> ted: const nsACString& aName
# [20:33] <espindola> in RemoveItemAnnotation
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# [20:33] <froydnj> bhearsum: I think hg heads are just git branches, so what git branch is telling you is correct
# [20:33] <froydnj> bhearsum: maybe there is some other misunderstanding?
# [20:33] <espindola> knowing that value it should be possible to figure out where we are coming from...
# [20:33] <mbrubeck> though it's true you can have orphaned commits that are not ancestors of any branch
# [20:34] <mbrubeck> bhearsum: So, what *is* happening? (i.e., what is the specific info you are looking for, or behavior you are trying to explain?)
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# [20:35] <bhearsum> mbrubeck: i'm trying to figure out why my hg -> git sync caused my clone of the git repo to have a ton of conflicts
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# [20:35] <bhearsum> i think i accidentally lost my map file before i synced last, so all of the commit ids changed...and then the forced push changed the remote
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# [20:35] <mbrubeck> Sorry, I don't have any experience with hg<->git syncing
# [20:35] <bhearsum> no worries
# [20:36] <blizzard> wow
# [20:36] <blizzard> firefox is crashy this morning
# [20:36] <smaug> crash id?
# [20:36] <blizzard> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-9b7ced5c-cf9e-4134-9747-963d02120221
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# [20:36] * jduell needs someone with JS chops to run a necko patch by
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# [20:37] <blizzard> smaug: ^^^
# [20:37] <smaug> MMDevAPI.dll o_O
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# [20:38] <@khuey> mmm
# [20:38] <@khuey> that's windows
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# [20:38] <Pike> awesome, my update progress was at 9895972/38717524
# [20:38] <@khuey> blizzard: bbondy was looking at something like that recently, I think
# [20:38] <bhearsum> blizzard: >< my firefox _just_ crashed right after you said that
# [20:39] <blizzard> bhearsum: it is all going according to plan
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# [20:41] <jduell> Waldo: ping
# [20:42] <Waldo> jduell: pong
# [20:42] <@khuey> blizzard: 691355 is what I was thinking of
# [20:42] <jduell> Waldo: you know JS, right?
# [20:42] <Waldo> jduell: yes
# [20:42] <jduell> Waldo: I'm looking at an 8-year old patch for necko to cache JS regexes: bug 185108
# [20:42] <Waldo> one from the vaults
# [20:42] <blizzard> Waldo: bingo
# [20:43] <blizzard> Waldo: that's when it crashes
# [20:43] <blizzard> Waldo: when I plug or unplug
# [20:43] <Waldo> blizzard: ?
# [20:43] <jduell> Waldo: it looks fine, but I'm wondering about whether the space/speed tradeoff is right , esp for mobile--we'd cache all the regexps indefinitely
# [20:43] <blizzard> err
# [20:43] <blizzard> khuey: ^^^
# [20:43] <blizzard> Waldo: sorry
# [20:43] <Waldo> blizzard: UNACCEPTABLE
# [20:43] <jduell> But there may not be that many--prob just noise in the big scheme of things?
# [20:43] <blizzard> khuey: I thought it was suspend/unsuspend
# [20:43] <Waldo> ;-)
# [20:43] <blizzard> khuey: but it was also when I plugged in headphones
# [20:43] <@khuey> blizzard: you should talk to bbondy
# [20:44] <Waldo> jduell: caching forever seems like a really really bad idea
# [20:44] <blizzard> khuey: looks like it's fixed-on-trunk?
# [20:45] <@khuey> blizzard: that is, yes
# [20:45] <@khuey> blizzard: you're not using trunk?
# [20:45] <Waldo> jduell: that said, I'm not sure that it's possible to do better in JS, at least not without writing your own cache-instrumenting code
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# [20:46] <jduell> Waldo: well, it sounds like the code isn't so horribly slow w/o the caching. (and should be much faster since 2002 when this was reported :)
# [20:46] <blizzard> khuey: yes I am
# [20:46] <Waldo> jduell: could you do it with some sort of n-element MRU cache or something maybe? I assume the same pattern is getting used an awful lot, but is it only one, only a few, etc.?
# [20:46] <blizzard> khuey: today's nightly
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# [20:46] <@khuey> blizzard: ok, so you should talk to bbondy
# [20:46] <@khuey> cause apparently this isn't entirely fixed
# [20:46] <Swatinem> philor: hi
# [20:46] <jduell> Waldo: I think the # depends on the PAC file, but I'd suspect fairly small N
# [20:46] <Waldo> jduell: real timing data seems like a good idea if you're going to actually do something like this
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# [20:47] <Waldo> jduell: yeah, that's my thought; I'd still want something guaranteed to entrain only a bounded set of maybe-garbage, myself
# [20:47] <jduell> Waldo: so something as stupid as "only cache up to N entries then don't put new entries into the cache", or fancier (like LRU)?
# [20:48] <jduell> I should understand the usage pattern here better--not sure what the domain for this function is...
# [20:48] <Waldo> jduell: I'd think LRUish, but really I think you want data on actual real-world use patterns
# [20:49] <Waldo> PAC is flexible enough that people *could* be doing a lot of different things here
# [20:49] <jduell> Waldo: I'm inclined to r- then, unless someone's got the energy to look into it--
# [20:50] <jduell> Waldo: thanks
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# [20:50] <Waldo> jduell: it's also the case that we cache compiled regexps now anyway, so your extra stuff might not make a difference anyway
# [20:50] <Waldo> data seems key to doing anything here
# [20:50] <jduell> Waldo: right, I was wondering about that.
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# [20:50] <Guest_> Hi everyone, is this the right channel to ask about firefox's XPCom functionality?
# [20:51] <Waldo> jduell: caching lives til the next GC, although I'd guess that might be longer than PAC-hit interval
# [20:51] <Waldo> er, shorter, I meant
# [20:51] <jdm> Guest_: yep!
# [20:51] <Waldo> Guest_: it's a reasonable channel, yes
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# [20:52] <Guest_> Is netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege("UniversalXPConnect") enabling access only temporary or for all other pages using it (at same time or after)? If so, how do I make sure that access permissions are revoked once the page I'm willing to authorize is closed? (I want it to be enabled only when necessary)
# [20:53] <Swatinem> does anyone know in which channel is for it/db?
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# [20:53] <Waldo> Guest_: I think it enables only for the duration of the stack frame in which it's called, but do note that n.s.PM.eP is deprecated, and if you want to do stuff like that, you should embed it in an extension instead
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# [20:55] <Guest_> Waldo: does it mean it will be taken off future releases or just deprecated as in "good/right usage"?
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# [20:55] <Waldo> Guest_: the former, although I'm not quite sure of the time scale
# [20:56] <Guest_> ok, thank you a lot Waldo
# [20:56] <Waldo> Guest_: np
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# [20:58] <@bz> Guest_: A given enablePrivilege call enables access for the stackframe it's made in
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# [20:58] <@bz> Guest_: but you really shouldn't be using enablePrivilege, as waldo said
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# [20:59] <Guest_> ok, I understand, thank you for information bz
# [20:59] <sewardj> bc: ping
# [20:59] <bc> sewardj: pong
# [21:00] <bc> fwiw, i'm trying fair-sched and can't get it to reproduce.
# [21:00] <sewardj> bc: have you see this kind of thing before? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489652
# [21:00] * Waldo wonders what scrollback he missed while his system was paging
# [21:00] <sewardj> bc: is it just noise, or ... ?
# [21:00] <bc> i don't recall it. let me check some "stuff".
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# [21:01] <sewardj> bc: the fact that it comes from general_composite_rect is worrying. It also has a whole bunch of friends.
# [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7dcbce54a953 - Doug Sherk - Bug 711656: potentially fixed devices not being caught by blocklist, r=joe
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# [21:01] <xivix> Hey, I'm looking for the code that runs when "Set As Desktop Background..." is selected from the context menu.
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# [21:02] <sewardj> bc: so re 725770, i had the impression you had already a repro case w/ V
# [21:02] <xivix> Where can I find that, or where should I start looking?
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# [21:02] <bc> just that invalid read but not with a crash.
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# [21:02] <Octayn> xivix: grep for that string!
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# [21:02] <xivix> Octayn: oshit it's you
# [21:03] <Octayn> xivix: browser/base/content/nsContextMenu.js looks like
# [21:03] <@dolske> xivix: start here? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/nsContextMenu.js#263
# [21:03] <Waldo> bz: any chance you could pastebin scrollback or something from my "np" to my rejoining?
# [21:03] <sewardj> bc: well, once we have an invalid read, all bets are off, right? the computation is (potentially) off the rails
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# [21:03] <xivix> Octayn: I'm checking out the code now, so I can't yet.
# [21:03] <xivix> Thanks!
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# [21:03] <bc> i suppose.
# [21:04] <Swatinem> where can I find someone from serverops?
# [21:04] <@bz> Waldo: looking
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# [21:04] <@khuey> Swatinem: #it
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# [21:05] <Swatinem> thanks
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# [21:05] <@bz> waldo: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1489657
# [21:05] <@bz> waldo: not much there, other than me not reading up
# [21:06] <@khuey> ehsan: mind reviewing 728429 today? :-)
# [21:06] <Waldo> bz: cool, thanks
# [21:06] <@bz> waldo: np
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# [21:06] <bc> sewardj: i've never seen any stack with that in it during my testing fwiw.
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# [21:13] <bc> sewardj: i have seen stacks with sse2_composite_over_8888_8888 though
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# [21:19] <jdm> msucan: linking to the log of failing tests is also a good practice
# [21:19] <msucan> jdm: thanks!
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# [21:24] <sewardj> bc: ok, i'll add it to my list of badness to investigate
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# [21:28] <@ehsan> khuey: r=ne
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# [21:45] <jhammel> lsblakk: where is the autoland instructions again?
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# [21:46] <lsblakk> jhammel: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:Autoland
# [21:47] <jhammel> lsblakk: awesome, thanks
# [21:47] <jwir3> hm... is imap down for mail.mozilla.com?
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# [21:48] <josh> bsmedberg: I found the reason why nsNPAPIStreamWrapper was nsISupports
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# [21:49] <josh> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/plugins/base/nsNPAPIPlugin.cpp#1165
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# [21:49] <josh> We don't recount it but we do QI it
# [21:49] <josh> seems wrong somehow
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# [21:49] <Ms2ger> smaug, no, gavin isn't :gavin, he's vin.sha
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# [21:50] <jdm> what
# [21:51] <@smaug> Ms2ger: indeed
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# [22:03] <cers> does anyone have an idea what could cause this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726562
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# [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/246bc1c98175 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 728999. (Av1) browser_526613.js: Use "about:mozilla", instead of "about:robots", to support non-Firefox applications. r=paul.
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# [22:04] <froydnj> who's the right person to review dom/{battery,sms,interfaces/geolocation} changes?
# [22:04] <jdm> cers: woah, that's weird
# [22:04] <mbrubeck> froydnj: mounir would know...
# [22:04] <jwir3> cers: Is it reproducible on other machines?
# [22:04] <jdm> froydnj: what's the geolocation change?
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# [22:04] <cers> jwir3: the guy who filed it presumably, and the screenshots are from my macbook
# [22:05] <froydnj> jdm: they're all fixing idl to avoid multi-method function interfaces
# [22:05] <jwir3> cers: Hm. I don't have a mac, so I can't try to reproduce, but it looks to me like an issue with interactions on the video card...
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# [22:05] <jwir3> cers: Do you know when it started happening?
# [22:05] <cers> jwir3: no, but let me try it in stable
# [22:06] <@smaug> froydnj: dougt should probably review geolocation change
# [22:06] <jdm> froydnj: I can review the geolocation changes.
# [22:06] <jwir3> cers: if it isn't working in stable, maybe see if we can find a regression range?
# [22:06] <froydnj> jdm: smaug: thanks
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# [22:11] <cers> jwir3: huh. appears to be profile related.
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# [22:12] <jwir3> cers: How long have you had your current profile?
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# [22:12] <cers> jwir3: both nightly and stable work in a (almost entirely) clean profile, and both break with my regular profile
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# [22:12] <cers> jwir3: around a year I'd guess
# [22:12] <jwir3> cers: But disabling all add-ons doesn't help?
# [22:13] <jwir3> er, doesn't resolve the issue?
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# [22:13] <cers> jwir3: hold on, let me test
# [22:14] <jwir3> cers: could you post your about:support in the bug? This might help track it down.
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# [22:15] <jwir3> cers: I think the easiest way to do that, btw, is to navigate to about:support, then click the 'copy all to clipboard' button at the top and paste it into the bug
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# [22:16] <cers> jwir3: I'll just try to elimitate some of it beforehand, it's easier for me to do it, as I have a profile with the problem
# [22:16] <jwir3> cers: yeah, that will help a ton. :)
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# [22:17] <jwir3> cers: (and probably increase the liklihood of the bug getting fixed quickly)
# [22:17] <@khuey> ehsan: ty
# [22:17] <cers> jwir3: just in the middle of making dinner, so it'll take a little while, but I'll poke you when I get that far
# [22:17] <jwir3> cers: Sounds good. Take your time.
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# [22:32] <@smaug> khuey: did you file the bug about localStorage evangelism
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# [22:33] <@smaug> or contact Robert Nyman et al otherwise
# [22:33] <@khuey> smaug: I'm going to post to the newsgroups later today
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# [22:34] <@khuey> yeah, we really don't want to be evangelizing that :-/
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# [22:36] <@bz> josh: thanks!
# [22:37] <@bz> josh: I was fooled by clang --help not mentioning --arch
# [22:37] <biesi> khuey, smaug: what hack is this?
# [22:38] * @bz moves all his non-profiling builds over to clang
# [22:38] <@smaug> biesi: insane article in moz hacks http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/
# [22:38] <@smaug> we want to get rid of localStorage, not increase its usage
# [22:39] <biesi> ah yeah
# [22:39] <@smaug> taras: did you notice that article. I know you love localStorage ;)
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# [22:39] <taras> smaug: can we store them uncompressed?
# [22:39] <taras> to save cpu
# [22:40] <@smaug> taras: ?
# [22:40] <taras> that was sarcasm :)
# [22:40] <cers> taras: I can write an article about how to do that ;-)
# [22:40] <@smaug> sarcasm is too hard for me :)
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# [22:41] <taras> so who do we talk about taking that article down?
# [22:42] <Ms2ger> paul,
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# [22:50] <@khuey> smaug: taras: there's nobody around that can take it down at the moment, afaik
# [22:51] <@smaug> Asa: blizzard: ?
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# [22:51] <@khuey> tried blizzard
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# [22:52] <blizzard> I can
# [22:53] <blizzard> but that'd be..odd?
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# [22:53] <@khuey> yeah
# [22:53] * @bz wishes people planning to publish articles like that would check with the relevant module owners
# [22:53] <@khuey> I kind of want to talk to somebody who actually runs it about the whole thing
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# [22:54] <@bz> because this is not the first time that we have effectively tech evang that works completely against what we're trying to accomplish
# [22:54] <@bz> blizzard: ^
# [22:54] <@smaug> we really should have a list of web API to not use ever
# [22:54] <@smaug> APIs
# [22:55] <taras> blizzard: we should undo that blog
# [22:55] <taras> post that this is a terrible idea
# [22:55] <@bz> blizzard: Would it be less odd to add a big DON'T ACTUALLY DO THIS disclaimer?
# [22:56] <blizzard> bz: that would be more odd
# [22:56] <blizzard> look
# [22:56] <blizzard> let me pull it
# [22:56] <@bz> blizzard: this sort of thing causes us real credibility problems in standards groups, fwiw
# [22:56] <@bz> blizzard: every time it happens....
# [22:56] <blizzard> ahh shit
# [22:56] <blizzard> I can't edit it
# [22:56] <blizzard> I don't have those permissions anymore
# [22:56] <Ms2ger> Hmm, about:bloat?
# [22:57] * blizzard looks for stormy
# [22:57] <blizzard> bz: I'll send some mail
# [22:58] <@bz> blizzard: thanks
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# [22:58] <@bz> blizzard: and I was serious about some basic communication between people publishing stuff on hacks and the platform team
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# [22:58] <@bz> blizzard: it would be really really nice
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# [23:01] <blizzard> bz: I used to do that!
# [23:01] * blizzard feels defensive :)
# [23:01] * @khuey is writing that newsgroup post
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# [23:01] <@khuey> blizzard: hmm?
# [23:02] <blizzard> I'm writing some mail
# [23:02] <@khuey> ok
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# [23:13] <Waldo> bz: in your copious spare time it might be worth posting a better-informed comment than mine on http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2012/01/13/privacy-issues-behind-localstorage/
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# [23:14] <gkw> glandium: i was wondering if you could get to checking in bug 729010 soon
# [23:14] <gkw> :)
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# [23:15] <@bz> waldo: not touching that with a 10-foot pole
# [23:16] <Waldo> bz: why not?
# [23:16] <@smaug> Enn: ping
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# [23:16] <@bz> waldo: just in general
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# [23:16] <@bz> waldo: no wish to get embroiled
# [23:16] <Waldo> bz: :-\
# [23:17] <Waldo> I was trying to warn people off localStorage there, not entirely successfully, or at least not super-clearly
# [23:17] <Ms2ger> bz, you mean, you tell people they're wrong often enough on standards lists? :)
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# [23:17] <@bz> waldo: plus you said what I would have said, in your 2/6 2:10om post
# [23:17] <@bz> er, pm
# [23:17] <Waldo> okay
# [23:17] <Waldo> so it was clearer than I'd thought :-)
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# [23:20] <@bz> that's often the case
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# [23:21] <@bz> at least for some people
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# [23:21] <@bz> generally, any time someone thinks what they wrote is clear, it's actually not
# [23:21] <@bz> and vice versa
# [23:21] <@bz> as a rule of thumb
# [23:21] <@bz> (the sort of people who worry about being unclear tend to write clearly, see)
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# [23:26] <Waldo> heh, that's perhaps true
# [23:26] * Waldo wordsmiths himself pretty aggressively
# [23:26] <Waldo> too aggressively, if I were trying to write much more than I do now
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# [23:29] <gaston> Waldo: safari ui in the blogpost you mention is quite nice to display local data by origin
# [23:30] * Waldo has seen it, not used it himself
# [23:30] <taras> blizzard: so any progress on taking that down, the first comment on the blog post is almost right on the money
# [23:30] <taras> we should never ever argue FOR dom storage
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# [23:31] <gaston> Waldo: oh i've just realized firefox has a nicer one anyway :)
# [23:31] <blizzard> taras: see mail
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# [23:32] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hmm, nsTextEditRules is the only implementation of nsIEditRules?
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# [23:33] <eeejay> anyone know how i could figure out if an input event that has a default action of a scroll (like arrow-up), whether a scroll happened or not.
# [23:33] <taras> blizzard: where?
# [23:33] <eeejay> seems to be no easy way of doing that
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# [23:34] <blizzard> taras: oops, I no cc you
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# [23:35] <blizzard> taras: I meant to!
# [23:35] <Ms2ger> Oh, it isn't
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# [23:40] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I did, thanks
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# [23:43] <NeilAway> hsivonen: hmm, <option> doesn't allow child nodes?
# [23:43] <NeilAway> hsivonen: s/nodes/elements
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# [23:44] <Ms2ger> smaug, wdyt about adding nsINode::Length() or something like that for http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#concept-node-length ? It's currently duplicated in editor and nsDocumentEncoder (GetLengthOfDOMNode)
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# [23:46] <@smaug> Ms2ger: sounds ok to me
# [23:46] <@bz> NeilAway: correct
# [23:46] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: well there's also http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditRules.h#80
# [23:47] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [23:47] <NeilAway> bz: yeah, I fixed my problem by using xhtml instead :-)
# [23:47] <Ms2ger> Hah
# [23:47] <Ms2ger> Now you've got a million problems? :)
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# [23:48] <@bz> NeilAway: mmmm
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# [23:49] <@smaug> gavin: so why should I add anything to mutationobserver methods
# [23:49] <@smaug> am I missing some case you have in mind
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# [23:50] <gavin> smaug: well, maybe you're fixing an existing bug
# [23:50] <gavin> smaug: but we currently don't call RevalidateDataList(); for mutations on the <input>
# [23:50] <@smaug> nsFormFillController::AttributeChanged should in fact invalidate datalist
# [23:51] <@smaug> gavin: which mutations can happen to input
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# [23:51] <@bz> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | automation.py | Exited with code 1 during test run
# [23:51] <@bz> That seems .... bad
# [23:51] <gavin> smaug: well, you tell me? AttributeChanged is one case, certainly
# [23:51] <@smaug> input element doesn't have child nodes
# [23:51] <gavin> smaug: can't a random script add one?
# [23:52] <@smaug> sure, but so what?
# [23:52] <@smaug> is it bad to invalidate datalist ?
# [23:52] <darktrojan_> oops, nearly wrote 'r=NeilAway' in a commit message
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# [23:52] <gavin> smaug: I think we should try to avoid it where it makes no sense...
# [23:53] <jhammel> darktrojan_: when you meant NeilZzz ?
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# [23:54] <@smaug> well, I guess I could add "contains" checks
# [23:54] <@smaug> it make the code a bit slower in common case
# [23:54] <@smaug> makes
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# [23:54] <@smaug> er, no, contains wouldn't work
# [23:55] <@smaug> hmm, yes it would :)
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# [23:55] <Callek> darktrojan_: NeilAway doesn't like being referred to like that in commit messages
# [23:56] <gavin> smaug: why was the earlier patch crashing, ooc?
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# [23:58] <darktrojan_> huh. that's interesting
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# [23:59] <@smaug> gavin: ok, I'll add contains() checks - just to keep the behavior the same
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