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# Session Start: Mon Feb 27 00:00:01 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <Jaykay> i edited toolkit/content/widgets/scrollbox.xml, deleted the obj-folder and did make. my changes apparently did not have any effect. can anyone help me here?
# [00:03] <darktrojan> try running with -purgecaches
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# [00:08] <Jaykay> darktrojan: stoll no change
# [00:08] <Jaykay> *still
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# [00:13] <RyanVM> philor: YESSSSS
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# [00:15] <philor> purty
# [00:15] <philor> nice, m-c Win nightly goes from purple to red
# [00:16] <philor> I was going to do a merge, but I'm not sure that nasty m-c is suitable for our nice m-i
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# [00:49] <RyanVM> the weird thing about the comm-central windows bustage is that the most likely patch also landed on m-c without trouble
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# [00:51] <WG9s> RyanVM: not just windows. the OSX nightly was red also.
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# [00:51] <RyanVM> WG9s: On my push?
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# [00:52] <WG9s> OH I thought you were commenting on philors the nightlies were red comment.
# [00:52] <RyanVM> no, the c-c bustage on my push
# [00:52] <WG9s> OK different issue.
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# [00:55] <RyanVM> i still think it just needs a clobber
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# [00:59] * NeilAway wonders how extern "C" affects a function pointer type
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# [01:03] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: well, you need to know the calling convntion the function expects to be called with right?
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# [01:04] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: I don't think extern "C" affects that
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# [03:38] <rnewman> the best thing about working on a Sunday is how responsive the tinderboxes are
# [03:39] <philor> RyanVM: wrong assertion on that test_TelemetryPing.js failure
# [03:39] <RyanVM> damn
# [03:40] <philor> the worst thing about inbound is, when people aren't around to ask whether they caused something, that means they're doing it right
# [03:40] <RyanVM> ooo, njn's special assertion
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# [03:41] <RyanVM> philor: looks like real bustage to me
# [03:42] <philor> but if two people walk in, sing a bar of "###!!! ASSERTION: The two measurements of 'explicit' memory usage don't match"...
# [03:44] <RyanVM> sounds like a duck quacking to me
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# [03:47] <philor> backouteded
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# [03:50] <jlebar> Anyone else seeing a google-inside-a-google in nightly?
# [03:50] <jlebar> I'm not sure if someone has hijacked my quickbar search, or if somehow there's a bug displaying a google search inside a google search.
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# [03:54] <philor> jlebar: current nightly, or whatever one a while back had some UA change that made them sometimes something something?
# [03:54] <jlebar> philor, Do you get one or two google logos when you google?
# [03:55] <philor> jlebar: one, but then that's my own build from a couple of hours ago, with official branding, so I'm not much of a test
# [03:55] <jlebar> okay.
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# [04:02] <@khuey> has anyone else seen more unstyled content than normal lately?
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# [04:03] <philor> yeah, though for moderately large values of lately
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# [04:03] <philor> hmm, didn't I see something about async favicon fetches recently?
# [04:04] <philor> something on which I can blame this leak?
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# [04:04] <jlebar> khuey, I thought it was just my sucky network lately.
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# [04:05] <philor> oh, async livemarks, and hello, the leaking test (which, sadly, is mine) is a livemark test
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# [04:08] <@khuey> jlebar: btw, we should talk about your email tomorrow
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# [05:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2a18bd58aae2 - Josh Dhaliwal - Bug 727905 - Zero width window handling in nsWindow.cpp crash. r=dougt
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# [07:27] <rnewman> lol
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# [07:29] <@khuey> you should fear what those pushes look like more
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# [07:36] <@dolske> heh. NS_ABORT_IF_FALSE(IsInDoc(), "This will end badly!");
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# [07:55] <qheaden> Anyone have a idea why the file path isn't showing for the file I added? It is the first file in this diff: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=600846&action=diff
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# [07:59] <nthomas|away> splinter doesn't seem to do that
# [07:59] <nthomas|away> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=335781&attachment=600846
# [08:00] <nthomas|away> so presumably a bug in the older diff viewer
# [08:00] <qheaden> Yeah, must be.
# [08:00] <qheaden> Pushing the patch creates the file. So it is a diff viewer bug.
# [08:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d1b2fd680235 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 730551. (Av1) browser_bug638292.js: Support SeaMonkey's "about:blank" loads. r=bmcbride.
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# [08:47] <rnewman> glandium: did you see this? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=86f8ab61e755
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# [09:40] <glazou> Yoric: ping
# [09:40] <glazou> bonjour btw
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# [09:44] <Yoric> bonjour
# [09:44] <Yoric> glazou: quick pong
# [09:45] <glazou> Yoric: just saw the html-to-epub add-on
# [09:45] <glazou> will write an article about it
# [09:45] <glazou> it will be difficult for them to handle all cases
# [09:46] <glazou> because they rely on nsIWebBrowserPersist.saveDocument that is known to be limited
# [09:46] <glazou> in particular does not deal with imported stylesheets, objects referenced from CSS, webfonts
# [09:46] <Yoric> Well, the hope is that this will eventually improve :)
# [09:46] <glazou> eh
# [09:46] <glazou> ok for me to write an article giving them a few hints ?
# [09:46] <Yoric> The idea was not to add a brand new serialize-to-file method, just a new container that makes our technique relevent.
# [09:47] <Yoric> Sure.
# [09:47] <glazou> ok
# [09:47] <Yoric> I think that's great.
# [09:47] <glazou> cool, doing then
# [09:47] <Yoric> I just hope that they will not be intimidated :)
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# [09:49] <glazou> Yoric: the scope is XUL/JS/CSS only I presume ?
# [09:49] <glazou> or is c++ in his scope?
# [09:49] <Yoric> No c++.
# [09:49] <glazou> ok
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# [10:12] <glob> updates pushed to BMO; https://bugzil.la/729443,730311,692507,730279
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# [10:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2dc40eb83023 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 728633. (Av2) Add ensureElementIsVisible() calls, to support having more items. r=bmcbride.
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# [10:59] <glazou> Yoric: yt ?
# [10:59] <Yoric> Here I am.
# [10:59] <glazou> see query
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# [11:12] <Yoric> Is anybody familiar with windows GetLastError/SetLastError?
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# [11:13] <Yoric> I have traced the source of bug 684017 to a Windows library calling GetLastError at a place that we do not like, and I do not know if saving/restoring the last error around the call to this function is a good practice.
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# [11:18] <Cwiiis> roc, hey, are you still visiting the london office tomorrow?
# [11:20] <@roc> yes
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# [11:29] <glazou> hey roc, and still paris the 9th ?
# [11:30] <@roc> yes
# [11:30] <glazou> ok
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# [12:20] <eflores> Yep, I ran into that a couple months ago
# [12:20] <eflores> Just ended up duplicating the damn thing, can't remember why
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# [12:57] <hsivonen> glazou: is there a live stream from MWC?
# [12:58] <glazou> I don't think so but I don't really know
# [13:01] <hsivonen> glazou: ok. I thought you might be seeing brendan in a presentation video stream
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# [13:04] <nigelb> glazou: take a picture of this historical event ;)
# [13:05] <glazou> nigelb: http://asset3.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/27/20120227_Brendan_Eich_Mozilla_CTO_MWC2012_001_610x516.jpg
# [13:06] <nigelb> HA! thanks!
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# [13:43] <glazou> some filenames there were the same used in communicator4 codebase...
# [13:43] <glazou> s/were/are
# [13:44] <glazou> in fact no, were :-D
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# [13:55] <hsivonen> where does mailnews/ stuff get initialized at app startup?
# [13:55] <hsivonen> I'd like to add some pref migration code for both TB and SM
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# [14:05] <hsivonen> there has to be a mailnews/ equivalent of nsLayoutStatics::Initialize() right?
# [14:05] <hsivonen> where is it?
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# [14:30] <hsivonen> what's the deal with make[8]: *** No rule to make target `../../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py', needed by `libs'. Stop. on a newly-pulled tree?
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# [14:30] <hsivonen> same thing if I remove my obj dir
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# [14:34] <jbuck> hsivonen: see topic, you need to delete .pyc files in your source directory
# [14:34] <hsivonen> jbuck: thanks. my window is too narrow to see the whole topic
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# [14:39] <Bas> hsivonen: Same issue here.
# [14:39] <Bas> Ok :)
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# [14:44] <jdm> we should make firebot watch for "xpillex.py" and tell people the solution
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# [14:49] <NeilAway> firebot: xpidllex.py is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723861#c17
# [14:49] <firebot> NeilAway: ok
# [14:49] <NeilAway> there you go, the stable door is shut now ;-)
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# [15:17] <espindola> BenWa, can I r? you on 729995?
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# [15:19] <espindola> !seen jduell
# [15:19] <firebot> jduell was last seen 3 days, 18 hours, 36 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying 'bz: do we implement the in-progress CSP spec (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/content-security-policy/raw-file/tip/csp-specification.dev.html) or the original "out of date" draft from
# [15:19] <firebot> Mozilla? http://people.mozilla.org/~bsterne/content-security-policy/' in #developers.
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# [15:19] <espindola> !seen bsmith
# [15:19] <firebot> bsmith was last seen 9 days, 13 hours, 10 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying '(And, why doesn't the build machine do a clobber all the time? Why is it so slow otherwise?)' in #developers.
# [15:19] <espindola> :-(
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# [15:20] <espindola> mak, any suggestions for bug 728653 other than bsmith or bent?
# [15:20] <mak> espindola: biesi, as I said. I have no other suggestions apart a really simple "patience"
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# [15:22] <espindola> man, do we need a lot of that
# [15:22] <mak> I know some patch is still waiting review after 2 or 3 months. Having to wait sucks for everyone
# [15:22] <espindola> !seen biesi
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# [15:22] <firebot> biesi was last seen 36 hours, 49 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'oh transformer' in #developers.
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# [15:22] <espindola> which doesn't make me feel any better
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# [15:23] <mak> I have no recipe for miracles so far
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# [15:23] <mak> nag, ping, nag, ping
# [15:23] <espindola> well, looks to be a mozilla specific problem
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# [15:23] <mak> maybe, though it's also true mozilla is special in many things
# [15:23] <espindola> mak, what is biesi bug mail?
# [15:23] <espindola> phonebook cannot find it
# [15:24] <mak> cbiesinger@moz? not sure
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# [15:24] <davidb> cbiesinger@gmail.com
# [15:24] <espindola> thanks
# [15:24] <davidb> np
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# [15:25] <@khuey> mak: espindola: biesi doesn't work for moco
# [15:25] <espindola> mak, it is *very* true that mozilla is special
# [15:25] <mak> khuey: ah ok, wasn't sure
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# [15:25] <@khuey> armenzg_buildduty: ping?
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# [15:26] <mak> espindola: btw, for any communication problems or internal problems, refer to your direct team leader, he can do much than I can
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# [15:27] <mak> that's the usual upstream fix :)
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# [15:29] <armenzg_buildduty> khuey: pong
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# [15:30] <@khuey> armenzg_buildduty: how much work is it to loan someone a build slave?
# [15:30] <jlebar> Anyone know the noscript author's bugzilla e-mail off the top of their head?
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# [15:31] <mak> giorgio maone
# [15:31] <armenzg_buildduty> khuey: 1) file a bug for IT to switch a flag for the person to get VPN access and 2) buildduty to scrape keys and set up new passwords
# [15:31] <mak> don't remember his bugmail
# [15:31] <jlebar> mak, thanks!
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# [15:31] <mak> yw!
# [15:31] <hsivonen> jlebar: g.maone@informaction.com
# [15:31] <jlebar> hsivonen, ta
# [15:31] <armenzg_buildduty> it can be done as fast as 30 minutes but depends if the buildduty can jump on it right away
# [15:32] <espindola> mak, ccing taras is getting to be part of a normal code review :-(
# [15:32] <@khuey> armenzg_buildduty: ok, thanks
# [15:32] <armenzg_buildduty> khuey: just in case I add confusion, the initial bug filed is for releng (buildduty would be filing the bug for IT)
# [15:32] <mak> espindola: sure, I understand your complains, but it's far far from anything a contractor like me could solve :)
# [15:32] <armenzg_buildduty> yw
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# [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/53e10e2b327b - Olli Pettay - Bug 730601 - Don't use GetListenerManager(false) to check existence of ELM, but HasListenerManager, r=jst
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# [15:40] <mak> espindola: fwiw, you can have multiple feedback, just open attachment details
# [15:40] <mak> there is an additional feedback flag
# [15:40] <mak> and so on
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# [16:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8ea5c983743f - Olli Pettay - Bug 730753, call CC after full GC, r=mccr8
# [16:08] <froydnj> do we have <inttypes.h> in (recent-only-)MSVC?
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# [16:11] <@khuey> m
# [16:12] <froydnj> khuey: yeah, but that doesn't provide printf format macros (and shouldn't)
# [16:12] <@khuey> ah
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# [16:13] <@khuey> I don't know if VS has it or not
# [16:13] <@khuey> if it does, I'd expect only 2010 has it
# [16:14] <@khuey> froydnj: MSVC isn't really a fan of C99 :-/
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# [16:14] <froydnj> khuey: aren't standards great?
# [16:14] <@khuey> yep
# [16:15] <@khuey> if you think standards we use are fun, you should look at the standards we implement ;-)
# [16:15] <froydnj> I am still waiting for the sausage I have eaten earlier to settle
# [16:16] <@khuey> lol
# [16:16] <reuben> http://code.google.com/p/msinttypes/ implements format macros
# [16:16] <reuben> maybe we could add that to Stdint.h…
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# [16:19] <froydnj> bug 730805
# [16:19] * glazou wonders why is -j8 build started behaving as if it were -j1...
# [16:19] <glazou> s/is/his
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# [16:24] <mcote> felipe: ping
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# [16:28] <froydnj> glazou: how so?
# [16:28] <jaws> mcote: i don't think felipe will be awake for a few hours
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# [16:28] <mcote> heh thanks, wasn't sure what tz he was in
# [16:29] <glazou> froydnj: no idea ; the activity monitor of the mac was showing build on one core only in content/ where it should really be //
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# [16:29] <glazou> stopped the build and relaunched it and -j8 came back instantly
# [16:29] <glazou> weird
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# [16:30] <froydnj> glazou: hum, odd
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# [16:30] <jaws> mcote: PST
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# [16:32] <@khuey> mcote: the kind of PST where he doesn't come in to the office until after lunch ;-)
# [16:32] <mcote> ahh :)
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# [16:34] <glazou> funny how time zones are irrelevant for real geeks :-)
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# [16:37] <hsivonen> what might cause a failure like this: http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=ThunderbirdTry/1329994027.1329994935.18390.gz&fulltext=1#err0
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# [16:41] <Standard8> hsivonen: I think its an issue with the builder itself
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# [16:44] <glandium> glazou: there are parts that are effectively built -j1
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# [16:44] <glandium> (yes, that sucks)
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# [16:45] <@khuey> but NSS is awesome
# [16:45] <@khuey> </snark>
# [16:45] <glazou> glandium: I know, but not the part I was building at that time
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# [16:47] <reuben> Network Security Services Considered Subpar
# [16:47] <reuben> “</snark>”, says Mozilla developer Kyle Huey
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# [16:49] <@khuey> heh
# [16:49] <@khuey> if that happened, I'd probably just stop talking
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# [16:50] <josh> Modified Stroustrup: There are only two kinds of security libraries: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.
# [16:50] <froydnj> heh
# [16:51] <@khuey> that holds true for just about all X
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# [16:56] <hsivonen> Standard8: ok. thanks
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# [16:57] <Standard8> hsivonen: I'll have a poke at it in a few mins, just sorting something else first
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# [17:13] <Anarchy> Is mconnor still the man for licensing?
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# [17:24] <bhearsum> Pike: how'd you figure out that we need all of tier_base, tier_nspr, tier_js, export_tier_platform, xpcom, security/manager now that the mar signing patches have landed?
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# [17:25] <Pike> bhearsum: trial and error
# [17:25] <bhearsum> ah
# [17:26] <Pike> make, fail, make more, fail, make more
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# [17:26] <bhearsum> so why exactly does libmar depend on so much now? like, i don't understand why it needs js....
# [17:27] <bhearsum> and for l10n purposes we really don't need 'signmar', which AFAIK is the only part that depends on them
# [17:27] <bhearsum> bbondy: is that true?
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# [17:28] <bbondy> bhearsum: signing MARs is done with NSS, so whatever NSS needs I guess is also needed.
# [17:28] <Pike> bhearsum: libmar breaks on nss headers, IIRC, and nss is built via security/manager (in weird ways)
# [17:28] <Pike> security/manager fails without xpcom, xpcom fails without js headers, at least.
# [17:28] <bhearsum> bbondy: right, but for l10n repacks we only need 'mar', because 'signmar' is run on the signing server
# [17:29] <bbondy> bhearsum: so we can just pass a define to only build it without signing enabled then
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# [17:29] <bbondy> that sounds like a better fix
# [17:29] <bhearsum> i'm wondering if we could add a new target in the modules/libmar Makefile that only builds mar.exe or whatever else
# [17:29] <bhearsum> yeah
# [17:29] <bhearsum> does that exist already? ;)
# [17:29] <bbondy> basically we have to do what it is doing for HOST_
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# [17:30] <bbondy> bhearsum: I can make a patch that excludes the signing stuff if there is a specific define defined?
# [17:30] <bhearsum> Pike: does that sound OK to you?
# [17:30] <bbondy> if you can make sure that define is defined
# [17:31] <Pike> sounds cool to me
# [17:31] <Pike> much less scary what I tried so far
# [17:31] <bhearsum> great, let's do it!
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# [17:31] <bhearsum> bbondy: point me at the patch when you have it and i'll test it by hand
# [17:31] <bbondy> bhearsum Pike: Not sure about how this works but will the same MAR ID be encoded into each MAR?
# [17:31] <bbondy> and version
# [17:31] <bbondy> with these repacks?
# [17:32] <bhearsum> bbondy: i have no idea hav the mar id is generated/encoded, so i couldn't tell you
# [17:32] <mconnor> Anarchy: nope, is this a distro request?
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# [17:32] <bbondy> so on a mar -c (create operation) it automatically uses the MAR ID and version that is listed in confvar.sh unless you override it with a specific value
# [17:33] <bbondy> bhearsum ^
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# [17:33] <Anarchy> mconnor, yes and no, fx-10 even built with --disable-official-branding uses trademark icons and Naming.
# [17:33] <mconnor> it... does?
# [17:33] <Anarchy> yup
# [17:33] <bhearsum> bbondy: and the mar ID is set based on the channel, right?
# [17:33] <mconnor> wait
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# [17:34] <mconnor> Anarchy: is that even the right build switch?
# [17:34] <bbondy> bharsum: no based on the MAR_CHANNEL_ID value of confvars.sh
# [17:34] <bbondy> err bhearsum
# [17:34] <Anarchy> been using it for ever and a day, just broke in 10
# [17:34] <bhearsum> bbondy: er, i meant MAR_CHANNEL_ID is set based on the MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL or something, right?
# [17:35] <bbondy> nope it is independent of the update channel
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# [17:35] <bbondy> the key to use for signing which is a separate security enhacement landing at the same time is related to MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL
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# [17:35] <bhearsum> ah right, i remember this now
# [17:36] <mconnor> Anarchy: just because you've been using it doesn't mean it's been working as you intended :)
# [17:36] <bhearsum> i don't see any reason why MAR_CHANNEL_ID would differ in l10n builds...
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# [17:36] <bbondy> so basically I want to make sur ethat will also be defined when building the repacks
# [17:36] <bbondy> and also that the moz version identifier will be the same
# [17:37] <bbondy> namely MOZ_APP_VERSION
# [17:37] <Anarchy> mconnor, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404999
# [17:37] <bhearsum> considering that MOZ_APP_BASENAME is defined in that file too, i think it's a safe bet.
# [17:37] <bbondy> k
# [17:37] <bhearsum> brb
# [17:37] <mconnor> ew, CACert
# [17:38] <bbondy> working on patch now
# [17:38] <mconnor> did they fix their roots issue yet?
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# [17:39] <mconnor> Anarchy: is there a link to the config you're using?
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# [17:39] <Anarchy> yeah prefer it on a pastebin so you do not have to except the cert?
# [17:40] <mconnor> please
# [17:40] <bhearsum> back
# [17:40] <mconnor> (mostly because it's a bunch of hostnames!)
# [17:40] <mconnor> Anarchy: so, going back to at least 3.5 there's no trace of disable-official-branding
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# [17:41] <mconnor> but the default was always to branding being off, you had to enable it explicitly
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# [17:41] <mconnor> so I suspect the build system just ignored it
# [17:41] <Anarchy> mconnor, you are right.
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# [17:43] <Anarchy> http://dpaste.org/sV2wK/
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# [17:50] <mconnor> Anarchy: what does mozconfig_use_enable !bindist official-branding do?
# [17:50] <mconnor> because, um
# [17:51] <bhearsum> bbondy: this define, what's it going to be called and when does it have to be defined? eg, at configure time only, or 'make' time only, or both?
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# [17:52] <bbondy> bhearsum: it has to be defined in the libmar Makefile only from building repackaged builds
# [17:53] <bhearsum> so, it has to be explicitly set when 'make modules/libmar' is called?
# [17:53] <Anarchy> mconnor, if bindist useflag is not enabled it will add --enable-official-branding to mozconfig
# [17:54] <mconnor> Anarchy: so... the patch in that bug adds something into that if statement, which works...
# [17:54] <Anarchy> that gives developer preview info.
# [17:54] <mconnor> well
# [17:54] <mconnor> it gives slightly oddball branding
# [17:54] <mconnor> but
# [17:54] <mconnor> it has an effect
# [17:54] <bbondy> bhearsum: hsa to be visible from within libmar's Makefile.in file so not sure whether it needs to be explicitly set or not as I don't understand how the build commands are defined for repackaging mars
# [17:54] <Anarchy> yeah
# [17:55] <mconnor> which means that, without it, you'll get official branding
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# [17:55] <bhearsum> bbondy: ok, i'll fiddle around after i get the patch from you
# [17:55] <Anarchy> correct
# [17:55] <bbondy> k
# [17:55] <mconnor> Anarchy: so... I am confused about what you are saying the issue is here
# [17:55] <mconnor> because, right now, it seems like you're getting something in the gentoo build script that defaults official branding on.
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# [17:56] <Anarchy> mconnor, based off configure.in branding is enabled by default.
# [17:56] <mconnor> Anarchy: link?
# [17:56] <gerv> How do I run ALL THE TESTS on mozilla-central?
# [17:57] <gerv> :-)
# [17:57] * gerv wants to verify his relicensing script hasn't broken anything
# [17:57] <jdm> gerv: I think the check target might work
# [17:57] <@khuey> jdm: nope
# [17:57] <gerv> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_automated_testing has lots of individual commands,
# [17:57] <jdm> arn
# [17:57] <Anarchy> hold on I am pulling it all out
# [17:57] <gerv> but doesn't tell me if there's one which just runs everything.
# [17:57] <@khuey> gerv: push it to try with the appropriate commit message ;-)
# [17:57] <mconnor> Anarchy: also, even if it was defaulted to off, your build script is turning it on
# [17:57] <jdm> gerv: try build with -a?
# [17:57] <gerv> khuey: I did that last time.
# [17:57] <gerv> I thought it would be easier to do locally if I had to fix and push, fix and push.
# [17:57] <gerv> Am I wrong?
# [17:58] <@khuey> well running "all the tests" will take several hours of your CPU time
# [17:58] <@khuey> and will only cover your platform
# [17:58] <gerv> True, but the sort of breakage you get from licensing changs
# [17:58] <mconnor> Anarchy: if the patch in that bug has any effect, then you are satisfying the gentoo build script's trigger to enable official branding
# [17:58] <gerv> is "the hard-coded line number in this JS error message is now wrong"
# [17:58] <Anarchy> mconnor, only if they do not enable bindist useflag which means they get a big warning about redistribution is not permitted.
# [17:58] <gerv> which is not platform-specific.
# [17:58] <Anarchy> http://dpaste.org/xR3dP/
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# [18:00] <mconnor> ...
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# [18:11] <glandium> pretty impressive: "(...) 8537m 6.9g (...) m4"
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# [18:14] <glandium> it OOMed my machine
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# [18:26] <@khuey> how on earth am I only geting 3 kB/s from fedora's repos
# [18:27] <Ms2ger> Use Ubuntu
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# [18:28] <@bz> khuey: are you using the fastestmirror yum extension?
# [18:28] <@khuey> bz: nope
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# [18:28] <@bz> khuey: you should
# [18:28] <@khuey> bz: presumably I would have to get it from the repository to install it
# [18:28] <@bz> one sec
# [18:28] <@khuey> bz: so there's a chicken and egg problem here
# [18:29] <@bz> yes, but it's tiny
# [18:29] <@khuey> bz: well yum says it's going to take over an hour just to download the metadata!
# [18:29] <@khuey> about what packages are available
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# [18:29] <anantzoid> How come the download speed is so slow?
# [18:29] * @khuey could install Ubuntu quicker :-P
# [18:29] <@khuey> anantzoid: I have no idea
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# [18:30] <@bz> khuey: erm
# [18:30] <@bz> yeah, suck
# [18:30] <@khuey> indeed
# [18:31] <@khuey> in retrospect, having releng loan me a linux builder would have been faster than setting up linux myself :-/
# [18:32] <Ms2ger> s/linux/Fedora/
# [18:33] <@khuey> mmm
# [18:33] <@khuey> after 7 years I have yet to find a linux distro I actually like
# [18:33] <@khuey> <cue flamewar>
# [18:33] <gaston> just use bsd and be done with it :p
# [18:33] <jhammel> a few years ago i would have said ubuntu hands down
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# [18:34] <qDot> khuey: Amen.
# [18:34] <froydnj> khuey: bah, just use git and be done with it!
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> gaston++
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> gaston, but... Free or Open? :)
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# [18:34] <froydnj> Ms2ger: dragonfly!
# [18:34] <gaston> whichever you want, i dont care :)
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> gaston, spoilsport :)
# [18:34] * qDot contemplating going Arch on a VM lately.
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# [18:35] <@khuey> Ms2ger: net
# [18:35] <@khuey> :-P
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# [18:36] <qDot> But open's the only one with release songs!
# [18:36] <qDot> Horrible, horrible release songs.
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> khuey, heh, that's so obscure I didn't know about it
# [18:36] <@khuey> jhammel: yeah but ubuntu hit the drugs a bit too hard lately
# [18:36] <jhammel> khuey: indeed :/
# [18:37] <qDot> Ms2ger: You're making Theo cry.
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> Who's Theo?
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> The one NetBSD user?
# [18:37] <gaston> haha
# [18:37] <qDot> Theo De Raadt, angriest man on the internet.
# [18:37] <gaston> Ms2ger: he founded NetBSD, then he founded OpenBSD :)
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# [18:37] <Ms2ger> gaston, ... anything to do with FreeBSD?
# [18:38] * jwir3 feels as though khuey is using his powers of trolling here....
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# [18:38] <@khuey> jwir3: I have never used a distro that I could put up with for more than a few months
# [18:38] <froydnj> jwir3: khuey missed the "great responsibility" part of the speech
# [18:38] <gaston> Ms2ger: it's just a different branch, from those days
# [18:39] <jwir3> khuey: really? you change distros every few months?
# [18:39] <@khuey> jwir3: no, I use windows
# [18:39] <jwir3> oh hahahaha
# [18:39] * mcpherrin changes distros every few month! Arch -> Debian this week ;-)
# [18:39] <gaston> Ms2ger: if you really feel bored/interested, the wikipedia page about bsd has the timeline :)
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# [18:39] <Anarchy> khuey, stop advertising you use a virus
# [18:39] <jwir3> tuche, khuey, tuche
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# [18:39] <@khuey> jwir3: but when I'm using linux, I can't manage to stay on a distro for very long
# [18:39] <@khuey> Anarchy: :-D
# [18:39] <Ms2ger> gaston, want a honest answer to that? :)
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# [18:40] <@khuey> Anarchy: at least MS's update server can do more than 3 kB/s!
# [18:40] <Anarchy> khuey, build out a gentoo setup and be done for good :)
# [18:40] <Anarchy> khuey, that is terrible.
# [18:40] <@khuey> yep
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# [18:43] <gaston> Ms2ger: it's always interesting to know where 'historic' things come from :)
# [18:43] <armenzg_lunch> espindola: I was not able to with all the mobile and release work
# [18:43] <mcpherrin> qDot: Because it's continually breaking, and I don't want to deal with that.
# [18:43] <armenzg_lunch> it's on my list of things for today/tomorrow
# [18:43] <mcpherrin> qDot: Like, right now my arch install won't boot, so I'm fixing that with Debian.
# [18:43] <Ms2ger> gaston, sure :)
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# [18:54] <Anarchy> glandium, pong
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# [18:57] <glandium> Anarchy: system hunspell patch? that landed a while ago
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# [18:57] <Anarchy> dictionaries
# [18:59] <Anarchy> bug 429023
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# [19:35] <bholley> khuey: so, the room we're in here in MV doesn't have a vidyo screen
# [19:36] <bholley> we could dial in...
# [19:36] <@khuey> bholley: uh ...
# [19:36] <@khuey> bholley: are you in the right room?
# [19:36] <bholley> khuey: yeah. 4N, right?
# [19:36] <@khuey> yeah ...
# [19:36] <@khuey> I guess you'll have to dial in
# [19:36] <bholley> we could also huddle around a laptop
# [19:36] <@khuey> please don't
# [19:36] <@khuey> that'll end poorly
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# [19:44] <Callek> jprmc: pong?
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# [19:51] <jprmc> Callek: the patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726797 only grabs more debug info, correct?
# [19:51] * Callek looks
# [19:51] <Callek> jprmc: well it merely shows the correct info in about:support
# [19:51] <Callek> as in the second GPU
# [19:52] <Callek> but it does not affect what we use when running afaict (and was told)
# [19:52] <jprmc> ok
# [19:52] <jprmc> thanks
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# [19:52] <Callek> jprmc: I'm far from an expert here and was going partly on what I was told from the reviewer/others
# [19:52] <Callek> jprmc: and from my isolated code inspection
# [19:53] <Callek> (that reminds me though that I need to land that on branches)
# [19:53] <jprmc> Callek: why is it resolved/fixed ?
# [19:53] <Callek> because it landed on trunk
# [19:53] <Callek> status-firefoxN is what we use for branch landings
# [19:53] <jprmc> ah
# [19:53] <jprmc> i see, the bug is just to report it
# [19:54] <jprmc> that was unclear
# [19:54] <jprmc> but yes
# [19:54] <jprmc> landing on the branches would be good for b5 tomorrow :-)
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# [19:56] <Callek> I'm doing my outstanding landings today :-)
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# [20:02] <Callek> bbondy: sooo btw, why don't we need signmar for repacks, wouldn't that make the mar files produced by our l10n nightlies *not* signed?
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# [20:02] <bbondy> Callek: there is a signing server that does the actual signing
# [20:03] <bbondy> so builds do not use the signmar binary as part of the build process.
# [20:03] <Callek> bbondy: ahhh so for mar signing we use the signing server instead, got it
# [20:03] <bbondy> builds do use the host/bin/mar as part of the build process, which doesn't need the signing
# [20:03] <bbondy> yup
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# [20:03] <Ms2ger> Evening edmorley
# [20:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: Good evening :-)
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# [20:04] <Callek> I got confused there (I know the mars are created initially by the libmar in a repack, though I do know that nothing compiled binary in a l10n job is shipped, so if we only use the signmar code for parsing signed mars, then I get it now)
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# [20:05] <bbondy> ya I guess we probably use it for unpacking and for repacking the mar, then it gets sent to the signing server again
# [20:05] <bbondy> you don't *need* to verify a mar to unpack it
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# [20:06] <glandium> Anarchy: 20 minutes passed ;)
# [20:06] <glandium> Anarchy: i'll be off soon, fyi
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# [20:07] <Callek> bbondy: so yea, if libmar can unpack a signed mar, without issue even if libmar is not using the signcode you added, then this will work, of course
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# [20:07] <Anarchy> sorry I am done....
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# [20:08] <bbondy> Callek: Yup the normal mar program can unpack a signed mar. All of the new additions to MAR files are backwards compatible.
# [20:08] <Callek> bbondy: my concern is that in cases where the app doesn't do signing, we should probably define the NO_SIGN thingy automatically and use mozconfig to turn it on, imo
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# [20:08] <Callek> but I trust bhearsum to help come up with a good solution
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# [20:09] <bbondy> Callek: it's kind of detached from the build process and based on builtbot config in my understanding
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# [20:09] <Callek> bbondy: well yea, but its still sorta build process
# [20:09] <Callek> bbondy: basically if configure used a mozconfig to turn ON signmar
# [20:09] <bbondy> Callek: we could probably disable it by default since it's not used as part of the build process
# [20:09] <Callek> bbondy: we could stuff it in the in-tree mozconfigs that get used by the *build* process
# [20:09] <glandium> Anarchy: so what is your question?
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# [20:10] <Callek> bbondy: the l10n process passes specific configure args at present rather than using a mozconfig, so thats good
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# [20:10] <Anarchy> how you suggest I make the path configurable is the question, I follow all your other comments
# [20:10] <Callek> bbondy: and lastly the other apps that don't do sign-mar can still be fine ;-)
# [20:10] <billm> does anybody know what's happening with inbound? mochitests are showing up red.
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# [20:10] <Callek> bbondy: it *can* change in the buildbot code, but imo the less we have to rely on buildbot magic, the better
# [20:10] <glandium> Anarchy: an option in configure
# [20:11] <bbondy> Callek: They are still fine as they are not forced to do signing and it builds fine, it's just when you build only selective things instead of a full build
# [20:11] <glandium> Anarchy: though i'm not entirely sure we need to make it configurable
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# [20:11] <Callek> bbondy: of course, but yea the fact that buildbot doesn't build nss (and doesn't need to for repacks) is the issue here
# [20:12] <bbondy> for repacks ya
# [20:12] <Anarchy> glandium, if it is not configurable what ya thinking?
# [20:12] <Callek> bbondy: but it won't hurt, say seamonkey, NOT to do the signmar magic, since we're not (yet) doing signed mars ;-)
# [20:12] <bbondy> so I think it's fine to disable it by default and add a mozconfig option to enable signmar
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# [20:13] <glandium> Anarchy: hardcoding the path.
# [20:13] <Callek> bbondy: and yea if we do it that way (disable by default, mozconfig option to enable it) we're actually making it simpler on the releng side, since no releng/buildbot changes needed
# [20:13] <Callek> cc bhearsum ^
# [20:14] <bbondy> Callek: ya
# [20:14] <Anarchy> so basically leave it hard coded and just cleanup the makefile/
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# [20:15] <glandium> Anarchy: yeah, but i'm not sure. we probably would need input from other distros
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# [20:15] <glandium> (about configurability vs. hardcoding)
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# [20:16] <Anarchy> glandium, as you know more of the distro maintainers care to get them wheels in motion, I would love to get this off my todo list.
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# [20:18] <glandium> Anarchy: you can send a mail to mozilla-linux-taskforce at kuix dot de
# [20:19] <Anarchy> glandium, sure, I did not know how many of the distros had a maintainer monitoring the list.
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# [20:20] <Anarchy> glandium, putting it together right now.
# [20:21] <glandium> Anarchy: there's a least debian, fedora and opensuse on that list
# [20:21] <glandium> probably ubuntu, too
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# [20:21] <Anarchy> good start
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# [20:22] <@khuey> nice
# [20:22] <@khuey> I'm finally getting reasonable download speeds from fedora
# [20:22] * @khuey might actually be able to build the browser on linux before he goes home
# [20:23] <blizzard> heh
# [20:24] <blizzard> khuey: weh?
# [20:24] <@khuey> blizzard: hmm?
# [20:24] <blizzard> khuey: like, downloading fedora or downloading on fedora?
# [20:24] <@khuey> blizzard: downloading packages from fedora's repos
# [20:24] <@khuey> blizzard: I was getting 3 kB/s downloading the rpm database this morning
# [20:24] <blizzard> oof
# [20:24] <@khuey> blizzard: from the office, no less
# [20:24] <blizzard> find another mirror :)
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# [20:26] <Anarchy> or another distro :b
# [20:27] <robcee> (gentoo joke)
# [20:27] <bbondy> Callek: Going ahead with your suggestion and adding --enable-signmar option, signmar will not be built without it. It will be turned on in the nightly and debug config/mozconfigs files though so unit tests will run.
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# [20:28] <Anarchy> robcee, I can not complain, gentoo might be my host system, but I have vm's for debian suse and arch
# [20:28] <Callek> bbondy: sounds good
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# [20:28] <robcee> Anarchy: it's cool
# [20:28] <Callek> bbondy: I'm (soon, as in likely this week) going mozconfig-in-tree for suite as well, so can turn it on for myself anyway, for unittests if nothing else
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# [20:29] <bbondy> k
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# [20:33] <gkw> armenzg_buildduty: does production go live every Thursday or only as announced?
# [20:34] * gkw wondering when i can see the bundle
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# [20:34] <armenzg_buildduty> gkw: Mondays and Thursdays
# [20:34] <armenzg_buildduty> so it won't conflict with release days
# [20:34] <armenzg_buildduty> we also can do it out of schedule if needed
# [20:34] <gkw> armenzg_buildduty: so i checked it in this morning
# [20:35] <gkw> armenzg_buildduty: does it make today's train?
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# [20:35] <armenzg_buildduty> I believe the weekly bundles occur on Sundys
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# [20:35] <armenzg_buildduty> gkw: no; I run a reconfiguration this morning before your change
# [20:35] <gkw> i see
# [20:35] <gkw> but anyway it would make thursday's
# [20:35] <gkw> and we'll have a bundle this sunday :)
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# [20:35] <Waldo> the most recent inbound changeset looks suspiciously empty...
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# [20:38] <edmorley> tbsaunde: ^
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# [21:10] <@bz> hmm
# [21:10] <@bz> gdb behavior differs for clang and gcc builds
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# [21:14] <jtcranmer> ehsan: your changes to the style guidelines are self-contradictory
# [21:14] <jtcranmer> "Modules should avoid adding nested namespaces under mozilla unless they are meant to contain names which have a high probability of colliding with other names in the code base (e.g., Point, Path, etc.). Such symbols can be put under module-specific namespaces under "mozilla", with short all-lowercase names, but are not allowed to add declarations to the "mozilla" namespace."
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# [21:14] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [21:15] <@ehsan> jtcranmer: that's stuff from the old text at the end...
# [21:15] <jtcranmer> I realize that
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# [21:16] <biesi> bz, interesting, how does it differ?
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# [21:17] <@ehsan> jtcranmer: should be fixed now. thanks!
# [21:17] <espindola> ehsan, good new, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=5176e915dfd9
# [21:17] <espindola> that was the last patch blocking building with clang and the official mozconfig
# [21:17] <@ehsan> awesome!
# [21:18] <espindola> rail push a new clang to the bots
# [21:18] <espindola> so we should be able to do try runs tomorrow
# [21:18] <@ehsan> cool
# [21:18] <@ehsan> espindola: have you also looked at the talos numbers?
# [21:19] <espindola> ehsan, no, I was unable to run them before
# [21:19] <espindola> that is what I am most interested in having try working with clang
# [21:19] <@khuey> jlebar: more group theory is always a good thing :-P
# [21:19] <@ehsan> I see
# [21:20] <@ehsan> yeah that makes sense
# [21:20] <jlebar> khuey, I took this class just a year ago, and I feel like I remember nothing at all. So maybe I should sprinkle reminders of what I once knew in *all* my patches. :)
# [21:20] <@khuey> heh
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# [21:23] <jtcranmer> khuey: no, it is not
# [21:23] <jtcranmer> group theory is magical shit theory
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# [21:34] <@bz> need to find out the order of a number in the multiplicative group mod 2^32? Brute-force it!
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# [21:41] <jlebar> bz, Are you sure that (non-1) odd numbers mod 2^32 have different orders?
# [21:41] <sheppy> bz: computers have basically destroyed my handwriting skills.
# [21:41] <jlebar> bz, 3, 5, and 7 all have order 2 mod 8, for example.
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# [21:42] <@bz> jlebar: 8 is a special case
# [21:42] <@bz> jlebar: try 16
# [21:42] <@bz> jlebar: where 3 has order 4
# [21:42] <@bz> jlebar: but 9 has order 2
# [21:43] * Waldo senses a relatively-prime constraint here
# [21:43] <@bz> jlebar: I mean....
# [21:43] <@bz> jlebar: think about it
# [21:43] <Waldo> or something like that
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# [21:43] <@bz> jlebar: if x has order 2^k, then x^2 has order 2^{k-1}
# [21:43] <jlebar> bz, No, you're right, if it's not prime...
# [21:43] <@bz> jlebar: right
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# [21:44] <@bz> jlebar: even for primes the multiplicative orders are different
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# [21:44] <jhammel> heh, if these are "destroyed" math skills....i guess i never had chops ;)
# [21:44] <@bz> jlebar: the wikipedia entry on multiplicative order has a nice section on 2^k
# [21:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/34c94825a183 - Josh Aas - Bug 729673: Fix cases in which plugin instance src data stream is not delivered properly. r=bsmedberg
# [21:45] <@bz> jlebar: basically, the multiplicative group is C_2 \times C_{2^{k-2}} or something like that
# [21:45] <jlebar> Oh, this is the whole primitive roots thing.
# [21:45] <@bz> jlebar: where those are cyclic
# [21:45] <@bz> jlebar: precisely
# [21:45] <Anarchy> khuey, http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/images/fx-11.0_beta4.png
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# [21:45] <@bz> jlebar: golden ratio is not a primitive root, looks like, but it's the square of one
# [21:45] <@bz> jlebar: which is good enough for our purposes
# [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/9b893007fa4e - Kyle Huey - Fix Bug 657588. r=bsmedberg a=dveditz
# [21:46] <jlebar> bz, I'll add a comment. :)
# [21:46] <@khuey> wow, we still announce pushes to 1.9.2?
# [21:46] <@bz> jlebar: sounds good. ;)
# [21:46] <Waldo> khuey owns 1.9.2!
# [21:46] <@khuey> haha
# [21:47] <@khuey> if I own it that means I can WONTFIX it, right?
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# [21:47] <Waldo> good call!
# [21:47] <@khuey> by the power invested in me
# [21:47] <jdm> Anarchy: what.. am I looking at?
# [21:47] <@khuey> by being that last person to check in to 1.9.2
# [21:48] <@khuey> I hereby WONTFIX the entire branch
# [21:48] <@khuey> bring out the booze
# [21:48] <Anarchy> jdm, you can see official trademark icons and such with --disable-official-branding
# [21:48] <jhammel> khuey: i guess that means you've shipped ESR :P
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# [21:53] * Waldo wonders how long it's been since he built this tree, if it's complaining about xpidllex.py or somesuch
# [21:53] <gaston> khuey: hey i've been the last person having a commit on 1.9.1 :)
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# [21:54] <biesi> sicking, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730765 - how was multiplex stream broken for seeking?
# [21:54] <biesi> since it seems it did have code for that purpose
# [21:54] * Waldo recommends not trumpeting that fact on IRC...oh wait
# [21:54] <@khuey> Waldo: that was thursday or friday
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# [21:55] <Waldo> hmm, that's more recent than I'd have bet :-)
# [21:55] * Waldo wonders who's at fault for ChatZilla's faces motif being broken for him
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# [21:56] <Waldo> hmm
# [21:56] <@bz> waldo: you need to nuke some .pyc crap
# [21:56] <@bz> waldo: in the srcdir
# [21:56] <@bz> waldo: I believe
# [21:56] <Waldo> bz: thanks muchly, I was just about to ask about this, since blowing away the objdir didn't work :-)
# [21:57] <Waldo> we should do tinderbox builds against trees stored on readonly filesystems
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# [21:58] <@dolske> Anarchy: oh god, what have you done to your fonts. :(
# [21:58] <Anarchy> dolske, lmao just a chroot'd system I did not set it up for anything special,
# [21:58] <@bz> waldo: the problem is that python sucks
# [21:58] <@bz> waldo: right?
# [21:58] <@bz> waldo: wrt pyc files....
# [21:58] <biesi> sicking, nvm
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# [21:59] <jhammel> that and we probably should blow away .pyc on make clobber/make clean
# [21:59] <Waldo> bz: do you remember where these pyc files are, since hg st is ignoring them probably because .hgignore told it to?
# [21:59] <jhammel> find . -iname '*.pyc'
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# [21:59] <dholbert> jaws, ping
# [21:59] <@dolske> Anarchy: is that the default system font?!
# [21:59] <bent> hm, dumb question, what's the preferred way to get a random number in C++ code nowadays?
# [21:59] <Anarchy> dolske, in this chroot yes.
# [22:00] <dholbert> Waldo, are you looking for "rm xpcom/idl-parser/*.pyc " ?
# [22:00] <@khuey> bent: http://xkcd.com/221/
# [22:00] <Anarchy> I hardly ever use that chroot so does not bother me, I use it for testing of mozilla products only
# [22:00] <Waldo> yeah, I probably should just do the find-thing
# [22:00] <bent> khuey, *slap*
# [22:00] <@khuey> bent: anytime
# [22:01] <jhammel> khuey++
# [22:01] <@khuey> bent: you ask a dumb question, you get a dumb answer
# [22:01] <Waldo> bent: what kind of random number?
# [22:01] <bent> Waldo, not a crypto-strong one
# [22:02] <bent> just something like math_rand
# [22:02] <bent> but in c++
# [22:02] <Waldo> bent: add something to mfbt; I doubt we have anything canonical now
# [22:02] <Waldo> because we are awesome like that
# [22:02] <bent> well, there's PR_GetRandomNoise
# [22:02] <dholbert> "HONK"
# [22:02] <dholbert> "SQUEAK"
# [22:02] <bent> so for the time being i'm going to pretend it's perfect
# [22:02] <Waldo> random noise, you said? http://vuvuzela.vorb.is/
# [22:02] <dholbert> [chainsaw]
# [22:02] <@khuey> dholbert: thanks for making me almost spit out my drink
# [22:03] <dholbert> khuey, anytime
# [22:03] <bent> you guys know it's monday right? friday isn't for whole week ;)
# [22:03] <Waldo> http://rimshot.vorb.is/
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# [22:04] <dholbert> jaws, BTW, I just got a Cheevos achievement for "about:" page-visits, but the page I visited wasn't actually a valid about: page. :)
# [22:05] <Anarchy> dolske, so you see the problem I am having with --disable-official-branding?
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# [22:05] <@dolske> no, I can't get past the fonts.
# [22:05] <jdm> for future reference:
# [22:05] <jdm> firebot: xpidllexer.py?
# [22:06] <firebot> jdm: Sorry, I've no idea what 'xpidllexer.py' might be.
# [22:06] <Anarchy> lmao
# [22:06] <jdm> but :(
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# [22:06] <Anarchy> dolske, http://dpaste.org/uxTWU/ .mozconfig used
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# [22:06] <jdm> firebot: xpidllex.py?
# [22:06] <firebot> jdm: xpidllex.py is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723861#c17
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# [22:07] <gavin> Anarchy: you should clean out that mozconfig
# [22:07] <Anarchy> gavin, alot easier said then done.
# [22:07] <gavin> why?
# [22:08] <Anarchy> gavin, as the config is generated from our ebuild in gentoo based on useflags
# [22:08] <@dolske> yes, blow away all that crap and I bet your problem goes away.
# [22:08] <@dolske> "ebuild in gentoo based on useflags" --> so not our problem
# [22:08] <gavin> Anarchy: why does it generate, e.g. "disable-official-branding" ?
# [22:08] <gavin> that has never done anything useful
# [22:08] <jdm> my goodness, that's some mozconfig
# [22:08] * @dolske shoos Anarchy off to some other network/channel
# [22:09] <gavin> since default branding has never been the default
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# [22:09] <@dolske> didn't mconnor just go over this like 3 hours ago? pretty sure he did!
# [22:09] * biesi ponders what happens when you seek() a stream beyond EOF
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# [22:09] <Anarchy> dolske, even if I blow it all away official branding is enabled even when I do not enable it.
# [22:10] <Waldo> biesi: tell us!
# [22:10] <Anarchy> dolske, but that is fine, I will leave have a nice day.
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# [22:11] <@dolske> if you can reproduce with a stock build from a stock tree, then it's our problem.
# [22:11] <@dolske> oh, too late. ah well, back to work!
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# [22:12] <biesi> mmm
# [22:13] <biesi> Waldo, "depends on the stream"
# [22:13] <Waldo> biesi: reread what I said
# [22:13] <Waldo> dolske: ^
# [22:13] <biesi> oy
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# [22:13] <biesi> Waldo, sorry, can we rewind this conversation?
# [22:13] <Waldo> my memory's going fuzzy, better do it stat!
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# [22:14] <sheppy> Hm, anyone know which of cancelRequestAnimationFrame() or cancelAnimationFrame() is likely to be the standard?
# [22:15] <sheppy> We implement it as mozCancelRequestAnimationFrame().
# [22:15] <sheppy> At least in 11.
# [22:15] <sheppy> Never mind, just figured it out
# [22:16] <Cww> joe: ping
# [22:17] <joe> Cww: hi
# [22:17] <Cww> joe: do you want me to only get about:support info for crashers with that specific graphics setup in the bug title or all of them.
# [22:18] <joe> Cww: anyone who sees the crashes, at this point
# [22:18] <Cww> ok.
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# [22:20] <Cww> so we're looking for crashes with TextStageManager::MapTextureTransferSurface(D2D_RECT_U const&, unsigned char**, unsigned int*) in the signature.
# [22:20] <Cww> but that's not always the whole signature, it seems.
# [22:20] <Cww> oh, no, it looks like they're all _VEC_memzero
# [22:21] <Cww> yuck, there are a bunch of different signatures, ok, I'm going to need rhelmer's help here.
# [22:22] <joe> Cww: _VEC_memzero should be in the skip list though
# [22:22] <Cww> so all the different crash sigs in the crash signature field?
# [22:22] <joe> yeah
# [22:24] <cers> if I wanted to cache the result of getContext in canvas elements, would the correct place to do so be in nsHTMLCanvasElement class?
# [22:24] <@khuey> er
# [22:24] <joe> it already is cached
# [22:24] <@khuey> the result of getContext is already cached, no?
# [22:25] <cers> khuey, joe: I err, don't think so? it's definitely really slow
# [22:25] <joe> are you sure it's the same <canvas> element?
# [22:25] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/public/nsHTMLCanvasElement.h#204
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# [22:26] <cers> joe: yes - we're about 7 times slower than chrome. When I cache it in DOM on the js-side, we become faster than Chrome
# [22:26] <@khuey> oh
# [22:26] <@khuey> that's rewrapping
# [22:27] <joe> it's possible that we have a lot of overhead, but it's definitely cached
# [22:27] * @khuey swears we were talking about that this morning ...
# [22:27] <@khuey> bz: ^?
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# [22:27] <cers> ahh - yeah - I see
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# [22:28] <cers> well at least I managed to find the right class to cache it in :-P (gotta take the small wins when trying to wrap my head around layout code)
# [22:28] <@khuey> cers: so are we slow because we have to recreate the wrapper that's been GCd?
# [22:28] <@khuey> or is something else going on?
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# [22:28] <cers> khuey: that I don't know - bz commented on it in bug 730712
# [22:29] <armenzg_mtg> khuey: edmorley how far are we from hitting upper limit of memory usage of our linker?
# [22:29] <armenzg_mtg> do you know?
# [22:30] <armenzg_mtg> I am looking at a log to see if there is info in there
# [22:30] <armenzg_mtg> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=9664050&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1
# [22:30] <@khuey> armenzg_mtg: let me check
# [22:30] <ddahl> just --updated my repo and get make[8]: *** No rule to make target `../../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py', needed by `libs'. Stop.
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# [22:30] <cers> not entirely sure what "wrappercaching" is though - caching it in the DOM instead?
# [22:30] <@khuey> ddahl: /topic
# [22:31] <@khuey> cers: the "wrapper" is the glue stuff between the C++ object and the JS
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# [22:31] <@khuey> armenzg_mtg: we have a little over 200 MB of extra space
# [22:31] <ddahl> khuey: thx
# [22:31] <armenzg_mtg> khuey: how can I figure that out myself?
# [22:31] <cers> khuey: aha - I guess I best keep my nose out of that, as I know absolutely nothing about it :-S
# [22:32] <@khuey> armenzg_mtg: look at a pgo log for a line starting with "linker max virtual size:"
# [22:32] <cers> khuey: but caching the result in DOM definitely "fixes" the problem. http://jsperf.com/getcontext/2
# [22:33] <@khuey> cers: that definitely suggests that the time is being spent rewrapping
# [22:33] <armenzg_mtg> thanks khuey
# [22:33] <Cww> joe: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730965 if you have more specifics about what you want (OS only, uptime etc)
# [22:33] * @bz is here
# [22:34] <@bz> the canvas rendering context is not wrapper-cached
# [22:34] <@khuey> right
# [22:34] <@bz> So getting the right JSObject for it is stupid-slow
# [22:34] <@bz> as I said in the bug
# [22:34] <@khuey> ok
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# [22:34] * @khuey knew there was a reason this all sounded familiar
# [22:35] <@bz> As I also said in the bug, new DOM bindings will So Fix That
# [22:35] <@khuey> heh
# [22:35] <@bz> and if we need a fix ASAP, we could do that too
# [22:35] <cers> bz: ahh - I thought you just meant that it would have to be re-fixed after they landed
# [22:35] <@bz> nah
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# [22:35] <@bz> some amount of work will have to be done that would be needed no matter what
# [22:35] <cers> well then, problem solved :-P
# [22:36] <@bz> making the context a wrappercache
# [22:36] <@bz> but once that
# [22:36] <@bz> but that's a prereq for using new bindings for it
# [22:36] <@bz> fwiw, our timeframe here, if I have my way, is to do that for 14
# [22:36] <@bz> or maybe 15
# [22:36] <@bz> of course I may not get my way. ;)
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# [22:37] <cers> bz: that would be nice - I guess there are other functions with similar performance penalties where the new bindings would also help
# [22:37] <jwir3> bz: Is there a way to determine if we are currently in reflow from within a frame (so, say I have frame A and frame B, and inside of frame A I want to check and see if we are currently in reflow) is this possible?
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# [22:41] <@dolske> khuey: will this help me get canvas working with pyxpcom? :3
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# [22:43] <@smaug> is "" false in python?
# [22:44] <@khuey> yes
# [22:45] <@bsmedberg> dolske: damn you
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# [22:45] <@smaug> khuey: what about "0" ? I hope that doesn't evaluated as a number
# [22:46] <cers> smaug: in the sense that; not "" == True, but not in the sense that; "" == False
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# [22:46] <cers> smaug: "0" is True
# [22:46] <@smaug> cers: if (""): wouldn't execute the statement after if
# [22:47] <cers> correct
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# [22:47] <@smaug> ok, thanks
# [22:47] <cers> "0" would
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# [22:47] <@smaug> ok, that is what I want
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# [22:48] <@smaug> surprising, python does something what I want
# [22:48] <darktrojan> ITYM you want something that python does
# [22:48] <cers> heh, somehow it rarely does something I don't want (except being really slow)
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# [22:51] <jaws> dholbert, pong
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# [22:56] <Aleksej> Hi. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612246 has had a patch for a year, but the patch is not mentioned in the comments below (except for one).
# [22:57] <squib> Aleksej: no one ever asked for review on the patch
# [22:57] <Aleksej> Yep, I hope that will help. :P
# [22:57] <Aleksej> That damn bug has confused me at least twice. :P
# [22:57] <dholbert> jaws, howdy
# [22:57] <gavin> per the comments in the bug, the patch isn't the preferred solution
# [22:58] <gavin> but I'm sure it could be considered as a temporary workaround if the preferred solution si somehow too complicated
# [22:58] <Aleksej> yes
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# [22:59] <jaws_> dholbert: that's weird about the cheevo. my guess is that maybe it occurred when by a failed frame in the page loading an about: error page? or it could be from about:blanks?
# [22:59] <dholbert> jaws: ah, it may have been an about:error type page
# [23:00] <jaws_> yeah, it could be. i should add some form of logging to the add-on
# [23:00] <dholbert> jaws_, I'd absentmindedly typed "about:extensions", got a "The address isn't valid" page, and a cheevos achievement appeared :)
# [23:00] <jaws_> hehe :)
# [23:00] <Aleksej> (I mean it confused me at least twice into thinking if there was something wrong with MediaGoblin, not some boring YouTube)
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# [23:02] <gavin> Aleksej: feel free to ask for review on the patch. I think roc's on vacation, but you can ask cpearce
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# [23:02] <Aleksej> gavin: ok, thanks (the patch is not mine though, is that ok?)
# [23:02] <gavin> sure
# [23:03] <gavin> the code is free!
# [23:03] <gavin> owned by all!
# [23:03] <Aleksej> ok, thanks :)
# [23:03] <gavin> (actually owned by the person who wrote the patch, but licensed in a friendly way!)
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# [23:16] <Aleksej> gavin: is that the correct e-mail address to request review from cpearce?
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# [23:16] <gavin> yes
# [23:16] <Aleksej> (just adding [:cpearce] didn't work)
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# [23:16] <Aleksej> also my comment was lost then
# [23:17] <cpearce> Aleksej: you have successfully requested review. :)
# [23:17] <gavin> :cpearce (no brackets) should work
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# [23:17] <Aleksej> oh
# [23:17] <@khuey> downside of moving to california
# [23:17] <@khuey> the tryserver is more congested when I push to it
# [23:17] <darktrojan> unless you're asking for review from gavin, because :gavin doesn't work
# [23:18] <darktrojan> maybe that's a cunning plan
# [23:18] <derf> khuey: Just wake up at 4:30 in the morning.
# [23:18] <lsblakk> khuey: you should automate your pushes for the wee hours
# [23:18] <jesup> khuey: You should have moved to Paris (or London)
# [23:18] <lsblakk> or that
# [23:18] <darktrojan> auckland
# [23:18] <jhammel> or stay up until 4:30 in the morning ;)
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# [23:19] <lsblakk> why should he stay up when computers don't need sleep?
# [23:19] <lsblakk> automate
# [23:19] <derf> I think the target he's optimizing for here is latency.
# [23:19] <derf> It doesn't help to wait around and push later.
# [23:19] <darktrojan> push earlier!
# [23:19] <jhammel> if you built a time travel machine....
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# [23:20] <@khuey> really the tryserver should run my code everytime I qrefresh
# [23:20] <jhammel> hah!
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# [23:20] <darktrojan> you can fix that
# [23:20] <@khuey> that way when I realize I want the results they'll already be there
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# [23:20] <jhammel> and fix bugs for you too, i guess ;)
# [23:20] <derf> khuey: That doesn't sound hard to script.
# [23:20] <Aleksej> The comment loss bug is bug 36843 :(
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# [23:20] <@khuey> derf: I'm not worried about the difficulty of scripting it
# [23:20] <derf> If only running on tryserver were free.
# [23:21] <@khuey> derf: I'm worried about my commit access being turned off
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# [23:21] <lsblakk> i should start charging for that...
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# [23:21] <gkw> glandium: ping
# [23:21] <jhammel> khuey: push as someone else ;)
# [23:21] <@khuey> pretty sure that makes you lose commit access even faster
# [23:21] <jhammel> :(
# [23:21] <lsblakk> khuey: use the bzapi to input [autoland] to the bug at any time and it will be pushed for you
# [23:21] <darktrojan> getting everyone else's commit access turned off would also work
# [23:21] <derf> I'd argue for khuey's right to waste as many try server resources as he wanted.
# [23:22] <derf> Until he pushed as someone else.
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# [23:22] <darktrojan> it's better than wasting inbound's resources
# [23:22] <Aleksej> (Or maybe not, because e.g. this bug has been fixed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163714 )
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# [23:24] <@bz> MOZ_PGO in all the relevant mozconfigs?
# [23:25] <edmorley> yeah mk_add_options MOZ_PGO=1
# [23:25] <jimm> mounir: ping
# [23:25] <@bz> in browser/config/whatever?
# [23:26] <edmorley> bz: yeah browser/config/mozconfigs/foo/nightly
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# [23:27] <@bz> perfect, thanks
# [23:27] <mounir> jimm: pong
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# [23:28] <jimm> mounir: hey, any chance you can sign off on that test change in bug 373266? that's the last review I need to land.
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# [23:28] * NeilAway doesn't see a mention of 2^k on the wikipedia entry on multiplicative order, maybe bz clicked on the primitive root link
# [23:29] <mounir> jimm: first thing tomorrow
# [23:29] <jimm> mounir: thx!
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# [23:30] <@bz> NeilAway: I was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplicative_group_of_integers_modulo_n#Powers_of_2
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# [23:30] <NeilAway> bz: aha
# [23:30] <mounir> jimm: btw, thank you very much for working on those patches :)
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# [23:31] <jimm> mounir: fun stuff to work on. :)
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# [23:31] <felipe> jimm++
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# [23:32] <felipe> I'm very excited about bug 373266 landing
# [23:33] <NeilAway> Waldo: did you find out what was wrong with ChatZilla faces? I can't get it to work either :-(
# [23:33] <jimm> felipe: polish is good. :)
# [23:33] <Waldo> NeilAway: I don't know, but given that the previewer on hacksrus is also broken, I suspect it's something on their end
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# [23:34] <Waldo> http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/motifs/ and all that
# [23:34] <gavin> rginda fixed that last time it happened
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# [23:35] <Waldo> I'm not quite sure what's up, because it looks like the CSS stylesheet is doing the right thing
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# [23:48] <taras> bz: maybe this is easier to discuss on irc
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# [23:49] <taras> bz: feels like triggering arbitrary computation with 16ms ganularity is suboptimal
# [23:49] <taras> during pageload in particular
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# [23:54] <kwierso> oh, nightly-testers group, never change your ways... https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/nightly-testers/2012-February/000883.html
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# [23:59] <@bz> kwierso: that's hilarious
# [23:59] <gavin> is adam/hobophobe ever on IRC?
# [23:59] <@khuey> !seen hobophobe
# [23:59] <firebot> hobophobe was last seen 13 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 29 minutes ago, saying 'Ah, looking at the source it's called 'reflow zoom' so I'll do a search for that.' in #firefox.
# [23:59] <@bz> gavin: yeam, sometimes
# [23:59] <gavin> 13 weeks? unacceptable
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