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# Session Start: Fri Mar 02 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:01] <bjacob> lsblakk: done
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# [00:01] <lsblakk> bjacob: awesome!
# [00:02] <Standard8> sfink: is there some rate limiting on bugzilla api or something?
# [00:02] <Standard8> sfink: getting lots of "Error: Logged-out users cannot use the "match" argument to this function to access any user information."
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# [00:03] <Standard8> sfink: followed by an occasional success
# [00:03] <bjacob> KaiRo: the basic rule is: as long as you use only GL, you're fine (except if using Nouveau). If you're mixing GL with other X stuff like pixmaps, you're dead (on all drivers). That's why switching away from any X-based drawing is a prereq before we can turn on GL layers by default
# [00:03] <Standard8> all from the same script run
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# [00:03] <sfink> Standard8: urk?
# [00:04] <Standard8> yeah strange
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# [00:05] <sfink> that must be from /user?match=blah, called when finding reviewers
# [00:05] <Standard8> sfink: I'm guessing this is probably server-side then
# [00:05] <sfink> yeah, sounds like it
# [00:05] <Standard8> I suspect not many people try creating 40ish bugs in a row and attaching patches
# [00:05] <Standard8> oh actually
# [00:05] <Standard8> this isn't quite the same script run
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# [00:05] <Standard8> its the same script I'm running, but its running hg bzexport multiple times
# [00:06] <Standard8> I should try a sleep next time around
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# [00:06] <sfink> it looks like bzexport itself may call that multiple times
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# [00:06] <Standard8> interesting
# [00:07] <KaiRo> bjacob: interesting - I guess I should try GL layers again some time now that I switched my window manager to GL compositing
# [00:08] <sfink> hm, that's only if you give multiple -r options, or a comma-separated list as a reviewer name. So probably not relevant.
# [00:08] <bjacob> KaiRo: no, again, GL layers wont work as long as we use X pixmaps
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# [00:08] <mattwoodrow> bjacob: it works!
# [00:08] <bjacob> KaiRo: the interop path between X pixmaps and GL textures is broken
# [00:08] <mattwoodrow> I had no issues on my system
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# [00:09] <bjacob> mattwoodrow: on what driver?
# [00:09] <mattwoodrow> it's just unstable, a lot of drivers are crashy
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# [00:09] <mattwoodrow> bjacob: Don't remember sorry
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# [00:09] <Standard8> sfink: hmm, one thing in common so far could be spaces in the -r names
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# [00:09] <bjacob> mattwoodrow: we know it doesn't work on NVIDIA proprietary and Intel drivers... that is already a good half of users, and supposedly the best drivers!
# [00:10] <mattwoodrow> bjacob: I was using nvidia drivers
# [00:10] <KaiRo> bjacob: oh, hmm... well, when I forced GL layers the last time on my machine, I had drawing artifacts but else it seemed to work
# [00:10] <KaiRo> bjacob: that's on open Intel drivers
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# [00:10] <bjacob> mattwoodrow: when i try it on nvidia driver, i get whole-system freezes. i also get some glitches, and some slowness
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# [00:10] <mattwoodrow> I had none of that
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# [00:12] <KaiRo> bjacob: btw, while we're on that, will the work happening on maple improve all this for desktop as well?
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# [00:13] <mbrubeck> "-funwind-tables" sounds almost as exciting as "-funroll-loops"
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# [00:13] <mbrubeck> Those will definitely be the names for the air hockey and roller coasters at my geek amusement park.
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# [00:14] <jhammel> -funwind-tables sounds fun
# [00:14] <jhammel> i'd go on that ride
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# [00:14] <bjacob> KaiRo: yes, in the sense that off-main-thread-compositing is being pioneered there, and will be useful everywhere
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# [00:15] <bjacob> KaiRo: but that's orthogonal to X issues
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# [00:15] <Standard8> sfink: doesn't seem to like spaces in the reviewer name
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# [00:16] <sfink> Standard8: you're passing them in via -r?
# [00:16] <Standard8> yep
# [00:16] <Standard8> well
# [00:16] <Standard8> --review= actually
# [00:16] <Standard8> '--review=%s'
# [00:17] <sfink> ok. (The alternative is pulling them out of the patch comment.)
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# [00:17] <sfink> let me look at that code path
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# [00:17] * Standard8 checks the affect of '--review="%s"'
# [00:17] <jtcranmer> s/a/e/
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# [00:18] <sfink> Standard8: just spaces, no commas?
# [00:18] <Standard8> jtcranmer: ?
# [00:18] <Standard8> sfink: yep
# [00:18] <Standard8> and it doesn't like the double quotes
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# [00:18] <jtcranmer> Standard8: you ment effect, not affect... unless you're doing weird things with your code :-P
# [00:18] <sfink> I bet the URIs aren't being escaped
# [00:19] <KaiRo> bjacob: ok, interesting to know, thanks
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# [00:22] <Standard8> sfink: oh look at that, replacing space by %20 works...
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# [00:23] <Anonymous> # Appears as LYNNEA
# [00:23] <sfink> yes, definitely looks like escaping. (and for once, I can blame this on somebody else)
# [00:23] <Standard8> :-)
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# [00:24] <@bz_away> bjacob: ping
# [00:25] <bjacob> bz_away: pong
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# [00:25] <@bz_away> bjacob: if you do come up with a testcase that shows the too-quick firing after a pause, I'd love to see it
# [00:25] <@bz_away> bjacob: again, with that timer delay line stuff set to 0
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# [00:26] <@bz_away> bjacob: also, if you know someone who wants to fix timers... ;)
# [00:26] <bjacob> bz_away: how would that be different from the test case i alrady attached?
# [00:26] <@bz_away> well, the testcase you already attached doesn't show that problem for me
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# [00:26] <@bz_away> with the delay line clamped to 0
# [00:27] <@bz_away> you were saying you could see a bunch of quick firings after a pause
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# [00:27] <@bz_away> which should not be able to happen when the delay line is 0
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# [00:27] <bjacob> bz_away: only in a non-optimized build
# [00:27] <@bz_away> even so
# [00:27] <bjacob> ah
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# [00:27] <@bz_away> it's totally expected with the normal delay line setup
# [00:27] <@bz_away> but with the zero clamp it shouldn't happen
# [00:27] <bjacob> but what could i try, to trigger that?
# [00:27] <@bz_away> see my comment in the bug?
# [00:27] <@bz_away> about just doing a busy-loop in JS for 100ms or so
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# [00:27] <bjacob> oh right, i got distracte
# [00:28] <bjacob> d
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# [00:28] <bjacob> bz_away: what system are you on? so i can try to reproduce
# [00:28] <bjacob> ok
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# [00:28] <@bz_dinner> I'm on Mac
# [00:28] <@bz_dinner> but I have Linux too
# [00:28] <@bz_dinner> so if you can reproduce on either one....
# [00:28] <bjacob> i'm on linux
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# [00:31] <sfink> Standard8: I've just put 5 patches up for review (thanks to you), but you can try https://bitbucket.org/sfink/bzexport for now. Let me know if it fixes the user problem.
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# [00:32] <Standard8> sfink: ok thanks, certainly running a lot better locally now :-)
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# [00:33] <@dolske> win 36
# [00:33] <@dolske> grr
# [00:33] <mattwoodrow> bz_dinner: When a table has an image as the background, what code is responsible for invalidating it once the image loads?
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# [00:37] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, (I think http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsImageLoader.cpp#239 ? not table-specific, just for backgrounds in general)
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# [00:38] <mattwoodrow> thanks dholbert
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# [00:38] <dholbert> np
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# [00:40] <WG9s> It is my change and Great I am here when it got chedcked in. If it causes issues it shouldbe my fault i feel and not really yours
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# [00:46] <jrmuizel> bz_dinner: ping
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# [00:55] <Cww> Anyone want to help a very techincal user trying to debug CPU spikes on linux?
# [00:55] <Cww> otherwise I'm going to ask him to file a bug.
# [00:55] <Cww> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/921635
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# [00:55] <nemo> Cww: well. he could try building the sources
# [00:56] <nemo> Cww: then doing profiling
# [00:56] <nemo> Cww: are these reproducible?
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# [00:57] <Cww> nemo: I understand all the words but none of the content so I don't feel like I'm a good person to follow up with him.
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# [00:58] <blizzard> sigh
# [00:58] <blizzard> hg keeps resetting
# [00:58] <blizzard> too many checkins!
# [00:58] <nemo> Cww: ehm. well. I'm not a dev or anything, but, you know, if he does something and it causes a spike reliably
# [00:58] <blizzard> stop coding, guys!
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# [00:58] <nemo> Cww: he just needs to check out the code, build it (and that's all covered on DMO) then run a profiler
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# [00:59] <nemo> perf record -g ./firefox;perf report -v -i perf.data > results.txt
# [01:00] <nemo> Cww: and just make sure he has debug symbols enabled
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# [01:01] <nemo> Cww: oh. and if he doesn't want to do a build
# [01:02] <nemo> Cww: he can just download symbols for linux
# [01:02] <nemo> and then record against his regular firefox
# [01:02] <Cww> nemo: ok, can you type that in a reply to him?
# [01:02] <Cww> please?
# [01:02] <nemo> um. don't have an account there :)
# [01:02] <Cww> nemo: make one!
# [01:02] <nemo> eh
# [01:02] <nemo> I hate making accounts
# [01:02] <nemo> I have so many already
# [01:03] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Build_Documentation
# [01:03] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_the_Mozilla_symbol_server
# [01:03] <nemo> https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/
# [01:04] <nemo> but. yeah. IANAMD
# [01:04] <nemo> Say. Anyone ever notice that time_t on 64 bit system can't do 2^56 as a date? Just noticed this, thought it was weird
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# [01:07] <@dolske> Cww: sounds like sumo needs browserid support! :)
# [01:07] <Cww> dolske: it's coming... maybe browserid needs to be faster :P
# [01:08] <@dolske> :P
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# [01:10] <Cww> nemo: you asked for it. I'm going to link him to dmo and tell him to file a bug.
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# [01:13] <nemo> fizzle points out that year is still a 4 byte value in the time struct. well. that makes me feel better. I thought that was kind of odd.
# [01:14] <nemo> Cww: BTW, did he test a new profile?
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# [01:14] <nemo> none of the stuff there seems to indicate "new profile tested"
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# [01:15] <nemo> Cww: but, yeah. lack of debug symbols which he mentions can be solved by the symbol server :)
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# [01:18] <njn> why is the "Don't load tabs until selected" option *greyed out* in my dev build?
# [01:19] <njn> oh
# [01:19] <njn> I need to select "show my windows and tabs from last time"
# [01:20] <mounir> aja: pong
# [01:21] <aja> mounir: was looking at input type=email checkin and noticed no tests for comment part (i.e. username+comment@example.com). dunno if there's any issues with that or not re punycode/intl chars
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# [01:22] <froydnj> dougt: ok to just add something to LOCAL_INCLUDES to fix build issues with 666612?
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# [01:24] <mounir> aja: I don't think that's related
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# [01:24] <mounir> aja: but username+comment@example.com should work
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# [01:24] <aja> you may well br right.....haven't reread rfc
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# [01:25] <aja> but will it work with int'l chars? (if they're even allowed by spec)
# [01:26] <mounir> aja: you mean like foè+commènt@example.org ?
# [01:26] <mounir> I guess it will
# [01:26] <aja> yeah
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# [01:29] <aja> k....just noticed lack of test for comment portion...which i use regularly, albeit in usascii
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# [01:44] <cers_> Unfocused: ping
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# [01:45] <GPHemsley> gavin: Out of curiosity, what's your usual turnaround time for a review?
# [01:45] <gavin> it depends
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# [01:46] <GPHemsley> How long should I wait to ping you? :)
# [01:46] <drice> biesi: my bug was flagged dev-doc-needed. Is that something I need to do? (pointers?)
# [01:46] <gavin> GPHemsley: I wanted to ask you how ocmmon all of the cases you're trying to support are
# [01:46] <njn> azakai: I like that in the Ars Technica market share article, the first "Firefox is bloated" comment came *after* two "I switched from Chrome back to Firefox" comments :)
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# [01:47] <biesi> drice, no, someone (sheppy) will get to it
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# [01:47] <azakai> njn: heh yeah, i saw that too. overall though, the trend is positive, the amount of 'bloat' comments is declining
# [01:47] <drice> Oh cool. Thanks.
# [01:47] <GPHemsley> gavin: Ah, well... what was your concern?
# [01:47] <gavin> GPHemsley: i.e. are there actually any real-life examples of dictionaries whose decriptions would be made clearer for supporting variant sub tags?
# [01:47] <GPHemsley> oh
# [01:47] <njn> azakai: yeah, and they tend to be comments from people who clearly haven't used FF in a while and don't provide data
# [01:47] <GPHemsley> gavin: well, variant subtags are often orthographic conventions
# [01:47] <azakai> njn: yes, exactly
# [01:48] <GPHemsley> gavin: So, probably higher in spellchecker than in other places in the code
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# [01:48] <gavin> I'm mostly looking for a yes/no - i'm not overly concerned with the details :)
# [01:48] <njn> "Mozilla have done a great deal for firefox performance recently, it is now faster than chrome, and uses less ram. Part of that is to do with chrome's stupid process per tab behaviour, but firefox has become very responsive, and chrome has bloated."
# [01:48] <azakai> heh
# [01:48] <GPHemsley> gavin: I'll say yes, then :)
# [01:48] <njn> azakai: I wonder how much of what people see is slowdowns caused by big profiles
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# [01:49] <njn> azakai: and Chrome users are starting to see that, whereas FF users have had that for years
# [01:49] <@khuey> njn: the more things change ... :-
# [01:49] <@khuey> P
# [01:49] <azakai> njn: could be, hard to tell though
# [01:49] <jhammel> chrome will probably aggressively purge though, or do something else that divorces user control of data
# [01:49] <azakai> very clear though that their download size is bloating up, with all the new code they are adding (NaCl, soon Dart)
# [01:49] <jhammel> like keeping your profiles in The Cloud
# [01:49] <azakai> and people notice that
# [01:50] <jhammel> lol, Dart
# [01:50] <azakai> we might put profiles in the cloud too, with pancake ;)
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# [01:50] <jhammel> hmmm....me googling pancake there might not have been what i wanted to do
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# [01:51] <njn> azakai: having read all those comments, I think there were definitely more pro-FF ones than pro-Chrome ones! haven't seen that for a long time
# [01:51] <azakai> njn: yeah
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# [01:53] <Unfocused> cers: pong
# [01:53] <cers> Unfocused: hey - do you happen to know why it isn't possible to select text in the addon manager?
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# [01:53] <romaxa> azakai: ping
# [01:54] <azakai> romaxa: pong
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# [01:54] <Unfocused> cers: because we haven't made it possible
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# [01:54] <Unfocused> it's xul, which isn't selectable by default
# [01:54] <cers> Unfocused: I see
# [01:54] <Unfocused> there's a few specific cases where it's been enabled
# [01:54] <romaxa> azakai: do you know how to connect firefox-13.0a1.en-US.linux-i686.crashreporter-symbols.zip to FF when I'm running it with ./run-mozilla -g -d gdb ./firefox ?
# [01:55] <cers> Unfocused: ok - just saw someone complaining about it on twitter - figured I'd ask you :-)
# [01:55] <Unfocused> but in general, i'd like to keep it like a normal UI (non selectable), not a webppage (selectable)
# [01:55] <romaxa> azakai: I'm trying to load it with add-symbol-file ../libxul.so/A91A33C54A67B1628C7E2917E0A1066B0/libxul.so.sym 0xaddr... but it does not work
# [01:55] <azakai> romaxa: no, never tried that. ted might know though, he works on crashreporter stuff
# [01:55] <azakai> doesn't seem to be online now though
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# [01:56] <Unfocused> yea, there's been a few bugs filed in the past. pretty much all use-cases i've seen so far are obscure - "i want to select so i can copy so i can do X so i can do Y so i can do Z, which is what i really want to do"
# [01:56] <romaxa> glandium: ping
# [01:56] <romaxa> glandium: ^
# [01:56] <cers> Unfocused: ok - I'm guessing what he wanted was to select maybe the name
# [01:57] <Unfocused> like selecting text in the list of addons - we should just support putting a proper text representation of the addon in the clipboard, not exactly what's shown on screen (which would copy a lot of useless fluff)
# [01:57] <glandium> romaxa: the 0xaddr you pass to add-symbol-file needs to be lib_base_addr + vaddr_of_.text
# [01:58] <cers> Unfocused: might be a good idea
# [01:58] <glandium> cumbersome, but it's how it is
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# [01:58] <Unfocused> cers: i'll most certainly take patches to do that.. hint hint ;)
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# [01:59] <cers> Unfocused: hehe, I might just look into it then ;-)
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# [01:59] <romaxa> glandium: I'm checking info sharedlibrary, and getting 0xb5c170c0 0xb710e318 Yes (*) /tmp/ff/firefox/libxul.so
# [01:59] <romaxa> glandium: after that I call add-symbol-file ../libxul.so/A91A33C54A67B1628C7E2917E0A1066B0/libxul.so.sym 0xb710e318
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# [02:00] <romaxa> glandium: and see libxul.so.sym': can't read symbols: File format not recognized
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# [02:01] <glandium> romaxa: ah wait, that's breakpad symbols, not elf debug info
# [02:01] <glandium> romaxa: is the sym file the only file in there?
# [02:02] <glandium> if it is, which i suspect, you need to download debug info files
# [02:02] <glandium> which, obviously, are not available for custom builds or try builds
# [02:03] <glandium> romaxa: you need this http://hg.mozilla.org/users/jwatt_jwatt.org/fetch-symbols
# [02:03] <@khuey> I just totally reworked a crazy patch
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# [02:04] <@khuey> added lots of fatal asserts
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# [02:04] <@khuey> and the browser started up without a hitch the first time
# [02:04] <@khuey> there is clearly something sinister happening here
# [02:04] <glandium> khuey: the force is with you
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# [02:14] <romaxa> glandium: hmm, trying to call it with /tmp/ff$ python ./fetch-symbols/fetch-symbols.py /tmp/ff/firefox http://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-symbols /tmp/ff/, but it does not work and complain about if not repo.endswith("mozilla-central") and repo.index("/releases/") == -1:, ValueError: substring not found
# [02:15] <romaxa> glandium: I'm trying to get symbols for http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/maple-linux-debug/1330637084/firefox-13.0a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
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# [02:20] <njn> wow, the press coverage of the Moz apps market is amazingly positive
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# [02:23] <@khuey> it's mostly about packaging and monetization
# [02:23] <@khuey> AIUI
# [02:23] <mbrubeck> It seems like an important part of the "web intents" system too
# [02:24] <mbrubeck> So you have a set of installed or available intent handlers that other apps/pages can talk to.
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# [03:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/2b31786f3b3e - Brian Birtles - Fix Bug 708186. r=dholbert,jwatt a=dveditz
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# [03:50] <aja> gavin: scrollback last few mins on #mobile
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# [04:14] <RyanVM> khuey: ping
# [04:15] <@khuey> hi
# [04:15] <luke> any #jsapi irc ops around? we need some banning in #jsapi
# [04:16] <aja> he's all over....sysop
# [04:16] * @bz_dinner hates imaglib
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# [04:16] <@khuey> don't we all
# [04:16] * @bz bet he hates it more
# [04:16] <@khuey> maybe
# [04:16] * @khuey spent a good chunk of today wrestling it though
# [04:17] * @bz tried to fix a security bug in it, but bets it leaks
# [04:18] <@khuey> mmm
# [04:18] <@khuey> sounds fun
# [04:18] <@bz> or at least all debug reftests on the try push are orange with a leak!
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# [04:25] <@khuey> aha, my patch does have bugs
# [04:25] * @khuey feels reassured now
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# [04:33] <timdream> I have questions regarding `oninput` event; MDC said it's a XUL event but it works on HTML
# [04:34] <timdream> Q: bug or feature for this event to fire in HTML?
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# [04:34] <@khuey> it's intended
# [04:34] <@bz> MDC lied
# [04:35] <timdream> Q2: the difference between `input` event and the DOM3 textinput event? The latter one is a yet-to-implement feature in Gecko with a bug # ...
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# [04:38] <masayuki> timdream: textinput is still in draft, I guess it will be renamed or removed.
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# [04:39] <masayuki> timdream: input event is a notification, it's fired after contents of editor is changed by some reason.
# [04:40] <timdream> masayuki: ic. i guess my use case is correct (i was working on code to update height of textarea as text is being inputed)
# [04:40] <@bz> how do I run reftets under a debugger?
# [04:41] <timdream> https://github.com/andreasgal/gaia/pull/695/files#L0R338 it's B2G Gaia actually
# [04:41] <mattwoodrow> bz: EXTRA_TEST_ARGS='--debugger=gdb'
# [04:41] <@bz> aha
# [04:41] <@bz> thanks
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# [04:42] <timdream> masayuki: thanks
# [04:43] <masayuki> timdream: you're welcome.
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# [04:45] <@bz> oh, feh
# [04:45] <@bz> it's the parser's fault
# [04:45] <@khuey> heh
# [04:46] <Unfocused> anyone know the exact string of nsIXULLAppInfo.OS on android is? android/Android/something else?
# [04:47] <@bz> though
# [04:47] <@bz> sorta
# [04:47] <@bz> the parser was incorrectly preloading images with CORS
# [04:47] <@bz> iamgelib was definitely leaking them, though
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# [04:50] <philor> we're failing an *example* xpcshell test?
# [04:51] <philor> where do I even file that?
# [04:51] <@khuey> lol
# [04:51] <philor> oh, hello Storage, meet your assertion
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# [04:57] <kinetik> what's up with mozilla-esr10?
# [04:57] <@bz> hmph
# [04:58] <kinetik> gkw2|mini: ping
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# [05:00] <@khuey> ugh
# [05:00] <@khuey> <canvas> is awful
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# [05:04] <philor> I'm not sure this system where Gary pushes everything for js hackers, and then doesn't watch it, is going to actually work out to be a net win
# [05:05] <philor> also? I went to update my esr10 tree to back it out, but hg.m.o says 404 Not Found
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# [05:08] <philor> oh, access denied, guess I'll just count on the backout itself as sufficient notice that I backed it out
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# [05:14] <@bz> effing imagelib
# [05:14] * @bz reviewed this code again
# [05:14] <@bz> I need to stop doing that
# [05:15] <mattwoodrow> reviewing things?
# [05:15] <@bz> yes
# [05:15] <philor> getting review-blame
# [05:15] <philor> which leads to further review requests
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# [05:17] <mattwoodrow> damn, because you were near the top of my list to review this 1.5mb DLBI patch
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# [05:17] <@bz> mattwoodrow: funny man
# [05:17] <mattwoodrow> I wish i was kidding about the size :(
# [05:17] <@bz> differential long baseline interferometer?
# [05:17] <@bz> heh
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# [05:17] <mattwoodrow> display list based invalidation!
# [05:18] <@bz> oho!
# [05:18] <@bz> rs=me
# [05:18] <@bz> landit
# [05:18] <mattwoodrow> might make it pass tests first
# [05:19] <@bz> well, of course
# [05:19] <@bz> that's a prereq for landing
# [05:19] <@bz> seriously, though....
# [05:19] <@bz> most of it is code removal, I would think
# [05:19] <@bz> right?
# [05:19] <@bz> lots and lots of code removal
# [05:19] <mattwoodrow> a lot of it, yeah
# [05:19] <mattwoodrow> I guess a lot of the patch size is that, 8 lines of context per Invalidate() call removed
# [05:20] <@bz> yeah
# [05:20] <@bz> Woohoo!
# [05:20] * @bz has minimal leaking testcase
# [05:20] <@bz> <img crossorigin src="data:a/a,">
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# [05:27] <@khuey> 732316 is lovely
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# [05:29] <@bz> yeah
# [05:29] <@bz> isn't it?
# [05:30] <@khuey> want to review the fix? ;-)
# [05:30] <@bz> sure
# [05:30] <@bz> given that I've already thought about the problem.....
# [05:30] <@khuey> er, wait
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# [05:30] <@khuey> this is fixed on my m-c checkout ...
# [05:30] <@bz> oh?
# [05:31] <@khuey> firebot: bug 723472
# [05:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723472 nor, --, mozilla13, jfkthame, RESO FIXED, reftest graphite-03a causes spurious "out of memory" crash due to zero-sized allocation request
# [05:31] <@bz> nice
# [05:31] <@bz> backport time
# [05:31] <@khuey> indeed
# [05:32] * @khuey looks for the regressing bug
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# [05:34] <qheaden> Hi all.
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# [05:34] <qheaden> Unfocused: ping
# [05:35] <philor> oh joyous day, somebody else hit bug 582821 on try
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# [05:39] <@khuey> "test which breaks the slave"
# [05:39] <@khuey> that's ... impressive
# [05:39] <philor> would be six broken, but somebody filed a bug about just one of them, got the file removed
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# [05:41] <philor> sigh, and there's another of RyanVM's unTried checkin-needed pushes failing tests
# [05:42] <philor> froydnj: is that you that's busted in it, next to tip inbound, xpcshell?
# [05:43] <philor> got a third of my dinner eaten between backouts, though!
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# [05:46] <jduell> is there a better way to clear a string than string.Assign("")?
# [05:46] <qheaden> Is Frank Yan (fryn) usually in the IRC chat?
# [05:46] <qheaden> I mean actively?
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# [05:56] <qheaden> Is code for Boot to Gecko included in the mainstream Mozilla code base yet? Or is it private right now?
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# [05:56] <Octayn> does mozilla have private code?
# [05:56] <qheaden> Yeah, that was a stupid question. :P
# [05:57] <Octayn> well no
# [05:57] <qheaden> Rather, I mean, is it in a separate repository?
# [05:57] <Octayn> I'm genuinly interested
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# [05:57] <Unfocused> qheaden: pong, but my brain is fried at the moment
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# [05:58] <qheaden> Unfocused: To fried to play some IRC ping-pong? :P JK
# [05:58] <Unfocused> and yes, fryn is usually around on irc. but it's also 9pm where he is
# [05:58] <qheaden> Unfocused: Just wanted to let you know that I released a patch. Not sure if you knew or not.
# [05:58] <qheaden> Unfocused: Get to it when you get the chance. I'm not rushing.
# [05:58] * @bz mutters about silly PR_LOG code
# [05:59] <Unfocused> yep, i saw it - sorry for the lag, been crazy busy lately :\
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# [05:59] * philor downloads a 3.5M log, expects to become joyful at what he finds inside
# [05:59] <qheaden> Unfocused: Same here, no problem at all. I just like to let you know because I know your bugmail must be overflowing. :P
# [06:00] <Unfocused> as for boot2gecko code: there's https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/ and https://github.com/andreasgal/B2G
# [06:00] <qheaden> Ahh cool.
# [06:00] <Unfocused> heh indeed
# [06:00] <@bz> this code logs the this pointer
# [06:00] <@bz> on all the PR_LOG calls
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# [06:01] <WeirdAl> Hey, guys... trying to build tip of mozilla-aurora, and this happens:
# [06:01] <WeirdAl> make[6]: *** No rule to make target `../../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py', needed by `libs'. Stop.
# [06:01] <Unfocused> qheaden: fwiw, i have a bugzilla search always open for review requests, specifically so they can't get lost in bugmail :)
# [06:01] <WeirdAl> I'm in /home/ajvincent/repositories/aurora/fx-opt/xpcom/typelib/xpidl
# [06:02] <@bz> WeirdAl: find $srcdir -name "*.pyc" | xargs rm
# [06:02] <@bz> WeirdAl: and thank Python for sucking
# [06:02] <qheaden> Unfocused: Smart. :)
# [06:02] <philor> hmm. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1498193 followed by most of that 3.5M being more of the same
# [06:02] <glob> qheaden, or use https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi
# [06:02] <philor> what *is* that?
# [06:02] <WeirdAl> bz: oh, it's been happening a lot, huh?
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# [06:02] <jdm> Unfocused++
# [06:02] <jdm> WeirdAl: oh yes
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# [06:03] <qheaden> Unfocused += 2;
# [06:03] <jdm> qheaden: while you're waiting, do you have any interest in bug 502307?
# [06:03] <WeirdAl> does a newer version of Python fix whatever caused that?
# [06:03] <Unfocused> heh :)
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# [06:04] <qheaden> jdm: Looks cool, but its assigned to Ehsan. He needs help on it?
# [06:04] <jdm> qheaden: see last comment :)
# [06:05] <qheaden> Ahh ok. Well, I'll take a look at it.
# [06:05] <qheaden> I don't want to be assigned just yet thought.
# [06:05] <qheaden> *though
# [06:05] <jdm> no problem
# [06:05] <jdm> qheaden: don't you have editbugs, so you could assign yourself?
# [06:05] * jdm checks
# [06:05] <jdm> :o
# [06:06] <jdm> there, I fixed it
# [06:06] <jdm> qheaden: use your new powers responsibly!
# [06:06] * qheaden reassigns core bugs to himself, planning to overtake the code base.
# [06:06] <Unfocused> we only support responsible world domination here
# [06:06] <jdm> oh noooooo
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# [06:07] <qheaden> jdm: You did a baaaad thing. :P JK
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# [06:08] <qheaden> I'm trying not to pile up too many bugs, because I hope to be accepted to Summer of Code with Mozilla, if Mozilla is accepted this year (which I'm sure it will be).
# [06:08] <qheaden> So I would have to work on my proposal project. Who knows, it could be one of these bugs. :P
# [06:08] <Unfocused> cool :)
# [06:08] <@khuey> bz: I think you got your bugs confused
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# [06:12] <@bz> khuey: er... i did?
# [06:13] <@bz> ah, no
# [06:13] <@bz> I was all OK
# [06:13] <@bz> but Firefox was not
# [06:13] <@bz> it has a tendency to not copy when I tell it to. :(
# [06:14] <Waldo> bz: fwiw, https://bug732321.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=602253 will hopefully address your style-documentation concerns in the future
# [06:15] <@dolske> better to have a hg hook that enforces it. :)
# [06:15] <@bz> Waldo: I was serious about the public/private thing: if there is a way to make editors do that, it should be in the modelines
# [06:16] <@bz> Waldo: otherwise it's a huge pain
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# [06:16] <@bz> Waldo: and the struct rule is just nuts as a result, btw
# [06:16] <Waldo> bz: which public/private thing again?
# [06:16] <@bz> Waldo: because again, there's no way to configure editors to do that
# [06:16] <@bz> waldo: the one where you have to indent them and then indent again for the members
# [06:17] * @bz mutters about putting private members before public ones
# [06:17] <Waldo> fields before methods, rather
# [06:17] <@bz> yes, but in practice what that often means is "implementation details before API"
# [06:18] <Waldo> at the end would also work as far as keeping them all in the same place
# [06:18] <Waldo> anyway, we'll see, I guess
# [06:18] <@bz> I think that would be better
# [06:18] <@bz> but anyway
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# [06:19] <@bz> oh, I need to add include guards for Likely.h
# [06:19] * @bz goes to do that
# [06:19] <qheaden> Well, see you later everyone.
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# [07:50] <gozala> bz: I'm still fighting https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731817
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# [07:50] <gozala> bz: do you have a minute to help me out ?
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# [08:04] <ewong> think I'll check my comp...
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# [08:04] <kwierso> ewong: what if you go a few levels deep in mozilla/ and delete some stuff from there first?
# [08:04] <kwierso> then work your way back up?
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# [08:19] <hendry> i'm trying to debug some app caching behaviour, is there a way to see network bg downloading in FF10? http://demo2.webconverger.com
# [08:25] <@bz> gozala: still there?
# [08:26] <gozala> bz: yeap but I figured out the issue
# [08:26] <gozala> thanks ;)
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# [08:26] <@bz> gozala: ok, good
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# [08:26] <gozala> bz: btw do you know if it's possible to
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# [08:27] <@bz_sleep> to what?
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# [08:27] <gozala> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIFrameLoaderOwner#swapFrameLoaders%28%29
# [08:27] <gozala> between local browser and remote one
# [08:27] <@bz_sleep> it's not
# [08:27] <@bz_sleep> at the moment
# [08:27] <@bz_sleep> could be fixed, possibly
# [08:27] <gozala> bz_sleep: thanks
# [08:28] <@bz_sleep> no problem
# [08:28] <gozala> have a good night
# [08:28] <@bz_sleep> you too
# [08:28] <gozala> tnx
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# [08:28] <m4g0g> hi
# [08:29] <m4g0g> Could I get the latest information about Electrolisys here?
# [08:29] <m4g0g> about it's status?
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# [08:29] <mcpherrin> As good a place as any on IRC.
# [08:29] <kwierso> m4g0g: it's on hold indefinitely, last I heard
# [08:29] <kwierso> the focus is on the snappy project at the moment
# [08:30] <glob> http://lawrencemandel.com/2011/11/15/update-on-multi-process-firefox-electrolysis-development/
# [08:31] <m4g0g> you want to say that to wait separate process in firefox - it is stupid idea?
# [08:32] <mcpherrin> m4g0g: More that it turned out to be hard, and there's other improvements that can be made first.
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# [08:33] <m4g0g> it is very sad
# [08:33] <mcpherrin> m4g0g: The primary goal (responsiveness) can be addressed in other ways, and doing that first will produce a better browser faster
# [08:33] <m4g0g> separate process very important
# [08:34] <@bz_sleep> is it important enough to break every single Firefox extension for it?
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# [08:46] <maledictus> so. My firefox leaks very strong when I use google+
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# [08:54] <birtles> maledictus, does it just use a lot of memory? or does the amount of memory continue to increase forever?
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# [09:00] <maledictus> amount of memory continue to increase forever. Slowly, but increase
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# [09:03] <ewong> I'm building Calendar and it fails with : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1498412, can someone point out why (if it can't find the symbol) did it compile whatever requires that header file?
# [09:04] <gcp> maledictus: can you file a bug with the steps to reproduce it?
# [09:04] <gcp> maledictus: and maybe the contents of about:memory
# [09:04] <mauke> ewong: why wouldn't it?
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# [09:05] <ewong> mauke if the symbol was missing during compile, it would complain? but since it is in the linking mode (I think?) it's not finding that symbole from gfx/harfbuzz/src/hb-ot-layout-common-private.hh ?
# [09:06] <mauke> headers don't contain symbols
# [09:06] <mauke> compilation doesn't require symbols
# [09:06] <mauke> "undefined symbol" is a linker error
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# [09:07] <ewong> right.. so basically it's not finding the symbol because ... ?
# [09:07] <ewong> it can't find the symbol (naturally)..
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# [09:09] <gaston> ewong: so you're back at trying to build calendar standalone ? :)
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# [09:09] <ewong> gaston :)
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# [09:10] <ewong> gaston Sunbird keeps calling me.. :)
# [09:11] <ewong> oh.. it's a hidden symbol.. (not that that makes any sense to me)..
# [09:13] <gaston> mh, my c++ is really rusty, but the signature might not match
# [09:13] <gaston> since it's inline int search (const SearchType &x) const
# [09:14] <gaston> where SearchType seems to be unsigned int
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# [09:14] <gaston> and the method ld looks for is search<unsigned int>(unsigned int const&) const
# [09:14] <gaston> ie (SearchType const&), not const SearchType &
# [09:14] <gaston> that *might* matter
# [09:15] <mauke> it doesn't
# [09:15] <gaston> but don't trust me on that, i didn't have coffee yet
# [09:15] <mauke> in a type, the order of the initial typey words doesn't matter
# [09:16] <mauke> static const unsigned long int == long const int unsigned static
# [09:16] <ewong> maybe I'll file a bug to track this..
# [09:17] <gaston> mauke: oh, ok, i though the const applied to & and not to the type itself
# [09:18] <mauke> that wouldn't even make sense
# [09:18] <mauke> there's no such thing as a "const reference" because references have no mutable parts
# [09:19] <mauke> (when people say "const reference" they always mean "reference to a const object")
# [09:19] <gaston> mkay, so my c++ is really rusty :)
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# [09:25] <ewong> mauke so what would make the linker think that such a symbol is 'hidden'?
# [09:25] <mauke> oh, no idea
# [09:30] <timdream> Interesting question from me for the layout experts: https://github.com/andreasgal/gaia/pull/695#r510250 the possible alternative to scrollHeight
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# [09:41] <smontagu> timdream: yes
# [09:41] <smontagu> timdream: I found what I was looking for, more or less
# [09:41] <smontagu> http://coq.no/character-tables/mime/en
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# [10:34] <ewong> can someone point out what a .hh file is?
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# [10:37] <ewong> oh.. nvm.. just an alternative extension for a header file.
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# [10:43] <Octayn> ewong: not sure but .hh is probably a c++ header in the spirit of .cc being the associated source. not sure.
# [10:43] <ewong> Octayn: thanks!
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# [11:01] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I was going to tell jduell about Truncate(), but he doesn't seem around
# [11:02] <smaug_> ttaubert: what causes newtab screenshots to be updated
# [11:02] <smaug_> (they are still usually just gray)
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# [11:17] <ttaubert> smaug_: navigating to those sites
# [11:18] <smaug_> doesn't help
# [11:18] <ttaubert> smaug_: unless they're redirects
# [11:18] <ttaubert> that's a known bug
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# [11:18] <smaug_> ah
# [11:18] <smaug_> don't know whether there is redirect involved
# [11:18] <smaug_> though, in this profile all the canvases are gray
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# [11:19] <ttaubert> smaug_: maybe disk cache turned off?
# [11:19] <smaug_> ah, that it is
# [11:20] <ttaubert> the cache situation isn't ideal, not at all
# [11:20] <ttaubert> you can turn it off, it throws away our images :/
# [11:20] <smaug_> there is some reason why disk cache should be turned off when using SSD
# [11:20] <ttaubert> orly?
# [11:20] * smaug_ tries to remember the reason
# [11:20] <ttaubert> smaug_: bug 729165?
# [11:20] <smaug_> I mean, I did explicitly turn it off
# [11:22] <smaug_> ttaubert: ah, yes
# [11:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/c23ed8a949b2 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 730425 - Perform an additional range checks in stream read functions. r=roc a=lsblakk
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# [11:33] <Ms2ger> mounir--
# [11:33] <Ms2ger> (dom/battery)
# [11:33] <kaze> hsivonen_: ping
# [11:34] <mounir> Ms2ger: hey, stop minusing me because of that :(
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# [11:34] <Ms2ger> sofixit
# [11:34] <mounir> dom/bttery ? :)
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# [11:35] <hsivonen_> kaze: pong
# [11:35] <Octayn> kinetik: ping
# [11:35] <kaze> hsivonen_: I'm looking for an offline html5 validator, I thought you would know whether such a thing exists and is easily installable
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# [11:36] <hsivonen_> kaze: You can run a copy of the Validator.nu software locally and talk to it via a socket to 127.0.0.1
# [11:36] <kinetik> Octayn: hi
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# [11:36] <kaze> hsivonen_: http://adammonsen.com/post/741 this tends to say it won't be straight-forward :-)
# [11:37] <kaze> hsivonen_: that'd be to use for B2G/Gaia
# [11:37] <Ms2ger> mounir, rs=me
# [11:37] <hsivonen_> kaze: on a B2G device?
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# [11:37] <hsivonen_> kaze: or on a desktop Linux box?
# [11:37] <kaze> hsivonen_: no, on the desktop, along with gjslint and other tools
# [11:38] <Ms2ger> "The sale of teapots has fallen" Noooooooo
# [11:38] <hsivonen_> kaze: well, it should work if you download the build script and run it *twice*
# [11:38] <kaze> hsivonen_: ok, I try that, thanks!
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# [11:38] <Octayn> kinetik: I played with that bytebeat thing I showed you the other day. Playing with the amount of data written at once seems to have helped a little bit but not much and not reliably. It's bug 732046. You might be able to add useful information to it, me being new to the whole topic, I'm unsure
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# [11:40] <hsivonen_> kaze: you're welcome
# [11:40] <kinetik> Octayn: okay, thanks. i'm almost done reworking part of the underlying audio code, so i might ask you to test a build in a few days and see if that works for you.
# [11:40] <Octayn> kinetik: Sure, no problem. Just give me a ping
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# [12:08] <glazou> is that possible in chrome JS to get the geometry (list of rects) of the selection into a html doc?
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# [12:09] <glazou> nsTypedSelection has GetSelectionAnchorGeometry but that's of course not exposed
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# [12:10] <Ms2ger> window.getSelection(), iterate over the ranges, and then some CSSOM stuff, maybe?
# [12:10] <glazou> hmm probably not since the CSS OM needs elements to query computed style
# [12:10] <darktrojan> DOM selection has getBoundingClientRects
# [12:10] <glazou> darktrojan: aaaah
# [12:10] <glazou> looking
# [12:10] <darktrojan> or DOM range, can't remember which
# [12:11] <Ms2ger> DOM Range
# [12:11] <Ms2ger> It's in CSSOM or -view
# [12:11] <glazou> good catch
# [12:11] <glazou> thanks guys
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# [12:11] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [12:15] <darktrojan> bah, I read 3 email messages through my webmail before, so thunderbird didn't download them
# [12:15] <darktrojan> real smart
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# [12:17] <mak> you're lucky, my tb refuses to download any mail
# [12:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning
# [12:20] <darktrojan> that'd make life less busy
# [12:20] <edmorley> afternoon for you even :-)
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# [12:20] <Ms2ger> Good, edmorley :)
# [12:20] <darktrojan> good day to you, sirs
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# [12:29] <edmorley> :-)
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# [12:34] <NeilAway> darktrojan: ooh, xhtml today :-)
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# [12:35] <darktrojan> bonus
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# [12:42] <NeilAway> glandium: so, if you're using dhcp, why do you need to configure a dns server?
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# [12:43] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, freelance writer
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# [12:55] <Ms2ger> "I am really not sure if this is a bug or not, as firefox doesn't crush or anything like that."
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# [13:00] <glandium> NeilAway: because the android stack is stupid
# [13:02] <NeilAway> glandium: fair enough
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# [13:02] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
# [13:03] <mounir> NeilAway++
# [13:03] <darktrojan> oh why is there purple all over tbpl :/
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# [13:05] <Ms2ger> mounir--
# [13:06] <mounir> Ms2ger: that's not fair!
# [13:06] <Ms2ger> :)
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# [13:10] <Octayn> Does anyone know what is happening with the Filesystem API? A few bugs seem to reference that it is less-than-ideal and should be changed, but I don't see too much
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# [13:11] <Ms2ger> We're ignoring it, I presume
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# [13:11] <darktrojan> 'nothing much' is probably an accurate answer
# [13:12] <Ms2ger> We're doing useful stuff already
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# [13:13] <darktrojan> which one's the filesystem api? dom file and co?
# [13:14] <Octayn> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/file-system/pub/FileSystem/, directories and stuff
# [13:14] <Octayn> oops, that's the old one, sorry. It's http://www.w3.org/TR/file-system-api/
# [13:14] <Octayn> (Was looking to see what changed)
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# [13:15] <Ms2ger> Note: TR stands for TRash
# [13:15] <darktrojan> same document, Octayn :)
# [13:15] * darktrojan has not seen this stuff before
# [13:15] <Ms2ger> Be happy
# [13:16] <Octayn> I have to agree with Ms2ger
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# [13:17] <Ms2ger> !summon bz_sleep
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# [13:17] <darktrojan> erm, how come on inbound I've got PGO builds finishing before the regular ones?
# [13:17] <darktrojan> seems bad
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# [13:19] <Unfocused> Octayn: afaik (and this is by no means my area), the plan is to implement FileReader and FileWritter instead
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# [13:27] <ochameau> hsivonen_: hey
# [13:28] <ochameau> hsivonen_: I was wondering what was the best/cheapest way to parse a (local) html document from JS. new Xmlhttprequest feature that allows to use html5 parser? Or is there any API exposed in JS that allow to use Html5Parser directly?
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# [13:33] <Cwiiis> If I want to have a stack of integers, is there an nsObject I ought to use for that?
# [13:34] <Ms2ger> nsTArray?
# [13:34] <Ms2ger> ochameau, DOMParser, perhaps?
# [13:35] <Ms2ger> ochameau, does that document have scripts?
# [13:35] <hsivonen_> ochameau: if the document is URL-addressable, use XMLHttpRequest
# [13:35] <hsivonen_> ochameau: otherwise, if you have the source in a string, use DOMParser
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# [13:36] <Cwiiis> Ms2ger, I guess so... There's nothing more specialised for when you just want to push and pop?
# [13:36] <ochameau> hsivonen_: Ms2ger ok, thanks guys
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# [13:36] <hsivonen_> ochameau: there's no JS API for nsHtml5Parser and it's most likely wrong to want one ;-)
# [13:36] <Ms2ger> Cwiiis, I don't think so
# [13:37] <Cwiiis> Ms2ger, ok, thanks
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# [13:37] <Ms2ger> hsivonen_, could you count the live dom viewer as one? :)
# [13:37] <hsivonen_> no API more direct than XHR and DOMParser that is
# [13:37] <hsivonen_> Ms2ger: that API is document.write()
# [13:37] <Ms2ger> The GWT one, that is
# [13:38] <hsivonen_> Ms2ger: oh. well, yeah
# [13:38] <hsivonen_> the DRM thread on public-html is such a time sink
# [13:39] <ochameau> I my usecase I just needed "parse" method of the parser so DOMParser is similar to what I was thinking
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# [13:41] <sicking> hsivonen_: hey, would you be interested on working on exposing a HTML and XML parsers to workers? Obviously they can't return a DOM, but we could expose a SAX-like interface. Or even return a JSON representation of the parsed page
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# [13:43] <hsivonen_> sicking: possibly, though my first reaction is that exposing the C++ parsers is an overkill and we should start by offering JS libs
# [13:43] <hsivonen_> (I'd be interested in workin on such libs)
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# [13:44] <Ms2ger> s/the DRM thread on//
# [13:44] <sicking> hsivonen_: that works for me. Works especially well now that we have chunked support in XHR
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# [13:59] <mak> edmorley: planning a merge today?
# [14:01] <decoder> when running a single mochitest using TEST_PATH=... make -C objdir/ mochitest-plain, can I have the browser close immediately when the test run is done?
# [14:01] <decoder> it remains open here
# [14:01] <Ms2ger> No
# [14:01] <Ms2ger> At least, afaik
# [14:02] <Ms2ger> I believe the autoclosing is a harness feature
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# [14:04] <decoder> Ms2ger: but isnt it the same harness?
# [14:04] <decoder> the only thing I add compared to regular runs is TEST_PATH=...
# [14:04] <decoder> im not using the python script directly
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# [14:05] <Ms2ger> Whereby "harness" I mean the code that's loaded in the top-level page to update the iframe and stuff
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# [14:17] <edmorley> mak: yeah I'll try to later, I just haven't had enough time spare to get to mozilla stuff the last few days (notably staring inbound/looking at dev.tree-management enough to be confident in picking safe changesets to merge from)
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# [14:28] <Cwiiis> there's a simple timer object you can use, right? Something like PRTimer? (but that isn't it) - nsITimer seems a bit heavyweight...
# [14:29] <kaie> What's your primary editor for Mozilla code? http://poll.pollcode.com/o7t
# [14:29] <Cwiiis> ah, just PRTime...
# [14:29] <kaie> I'm curious how many people use kate, to justify that I add kate modelines for indents etc.
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# [14:30] <Cwiiis> kaie, voted :)
# [14:30] <kaie> thx :)
# [14:30] <Cwiiis> kaie, I think a fair amount of people use Eclipse
# [14:30] <kaie> ok, I can recreate the poll (I think I cannot edit)
# [14:30] <Cwiiis> Might be nice to have gEdit in there for symmetry too, though I can't imagine anyone using it...
# [14:31] <Ms2ger> Yes, gedit, please
# [14:31] <kaie> any other's?
# [14:31] <glazou> voted
# [14:32] <kaie> please wait a moment
# [14:32] <Cwiiis> NetBeans, SublimeText...
# [14:32] <Ms2ger> I'd use it to lobby for gedit modelines, but it understands emacs ones
# [14:32] <kaie> I would suggest to limit the vote to public editors. Could those be summarized under "other open source"
# [14:32] <mak> Scite
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# [14:32] <mak> btw SublimeText2 is pretty good, I just tried it
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# [14:33] <kaie> maybe the poll should only include editors that do support modelines?
# [14:33] <kaie> and list everything as "other editors not supporting a modeline format"
# [14:34] <mak> most of the modelines in the codebase are wrong, fwiw
# [14:35] <mak> well, at least in the files I touched, surely somewhere there is a correct modeline
# [14:35] <mrbkap> mak: wrong how?
# [14:35] <kaie> ok. I think I missed the chance to update, we already have 5 votes
# [14:36] <mak> wrong like wrong number of spaces for tabs or tabs!
# [14:36] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, indent 20 spaces instead of 4, say
# [14:36] <mak> so I usually disable any modeline reading
# [14:36] <reuben> sublimetext2++
# [14:36] <decoder> Ms2ger: ah ok, got it =)
# [14:37] <reuben> mak, check out SublimeClang - https://github.com/quarnster/SublimeClang
# [14:37] <kaie> OK, I should ask my question differently, specifically asking for modelines.
# [14:37] <kaie> What separate modelines are out there?
# [14:37] <kaie> I know that emacs and kate have a modeline format
# [14:37] <kaie> Ms2ger, does gedit use a different format?
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# [14:38] <kaie> kate's are described here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-baseapps/kate/config-variables.html
# [14:38] <mak> reuben: interesting! though I just tried it, not yet using it as default... but I'm evaluating to
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# [14:38] <Ms2ger> It will use the emacs one, I think
# [14:39] <drice> this sounds like perfect fuel for an editor debate! /me cracks his knuckles
# [14:40] <Ms2ger> Also, 3 spaces is the only correct indentation
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# [14:40] <drice> fightin' words!
# [14:40] <mak> Ms2ger: 3 spaces is the correct indentation for Ms3ger, not for you
# [14:40] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: no, fibbonocci (or however it's spelled)!
# [14:41] <Ms2ger> Fibonacci
# [14:41] <decoder> fibbonocci sounds like italian pasta combined with math
# [14:41] <imphil> mrbkap, so what's the emacs modeline for this? :)
# [14:41] <decoder> yum :D
# [14:41] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: so, 1 space, then 1, then 2 then 3...
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# [14:41] <Ms2ger> It's filius Bonacci
# [14:41] <smaug_> decoder: :)
# [14:41] * smaug_ wants some pasta
# [14:41] <Ms2ger> Not getting mine!
# [14:42] <mak> sorry you all live in the wrong place for pasta :)
# [14:42] * smaug_ would get so fat if he lived in Italy
# [14:42] <Ms2ger> mak, can I come have pasta in the middle of your rice fields next time I'm around? :)
# [14:42] <mak> indeed, I have to go running at least 3 times a week
# [14:43] <mak> Ms2ger: you can get a risotto
# [14:43] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [14:43] * Ms2ger goes for a trattoria instead
# [14:44] <kaie> so, what about this poll: Does your primary editor support a modeline format? (to define indentation, tabs, etc.) http://poll.pollcode.com/1m43
# [14:44] <mak> edmorley: ok, don't worry, going to merge. Though if you want to remerge later feel free to!
# [14:47] <kaie> Ms2ger, it's probably unlike to convince people to introduce an editor-specific modeline, if that editor also supports the standard one (gedit vs emacs)
# [14:48] <Ms2ger> Aww, and I like trolling about editors so much! :)
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# [14:48] <edmorley> s/about editors//
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# [14:48] <edmorley> :-)
# [14:48] <kaie> but if we could find a set of 2-3 editors, maybe having at most 3 lines could be generally acceptable
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# [14:51] <reuben> my editor auto detects indentation, tabs, etc
# [14:51] <decoder> Ms2ger: in my opinion, the missing auto close is a bug in the python script itself... it has an option --close-when-done, but its not compatible with --test-path
# [14:51] <decoder> it just does nothing
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# [14:53] <Ms2ger> Yeah, it just adds a parameter to the URL, I think
# [14:53] <decoder> bleh
# [14:54] <decoder> couldnt the script just observe stdout and see when the test is done
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# [14:55] <decoder> also, how would it ever be possible to do automated bisecting for a mochitest failure when there's no automation possible to run a single test?
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# [14:59] <reuben> decoder, did you try setting TEST_PATH instead of using --test-path?
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# [15:00] <decoder> reuben: yea.. same thing
# [15:00] <reuben> lame
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# [15:01] <decoder> there isnt even anything on stdout that indicates that the test is done
# [15:02] <decoder> you have TEST-PASSes
# [15:02] <decoder> then nothing
# [15:02] <decoder> i wonder why you would ever design something like this >.<
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# [15:02] <Ms2ger> Hah, design
# [15:03] <nigelb> Asa++
# [15:03] <Ms2ger> Anyway, the ateam wants manifests for mochitests, and that will probably fix your case
# [15:03] <nigelb> Asa: That video you gave about mozilliazine and stuf was great stuff! :)
# [15:04] <decoder> Ms2ger: cool
# [15:04] <decoder> meanwhile im going try and patch mochitest
# [15:05] <reuben> weird, looking at the code, it should work if closeWhenDone=1 is actually being appended to the URL
# [15:05] <reuben> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/chrome-harness.js#373 / https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/browser-harness.xul#267
# [15:06] <Ms2ger> Single-test mode
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# [15:06] <Ms2ger> And that's mochitest-chrome, I guess
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# [15:08] <decoder> I added a dump("TESTS-DONE\n") in SimpleTest finish() method when there is no parentRunner
# [15:08] <decoder> that works fine
# [15:09] <decoder> now I can detect that and terminate the test myself
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# [16:03] <NeilAway> did Firefox 5 really not have urlbar domain name highlighting?
# [16:04] <mak> probably
# [16:04] <mak> NeilAway: bug 451833
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# [16:05] <NeilAway> mak: yes, I was surprised that the TM was 6, I thought there was some form of domain highlighting before that
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# [16:06] <Ms2ger> There was an add-on
# [16:06] <mak> yes there was dao's add-on
# [16:06] <mak> locationbar^2 iirc
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# [16:10] <ehoogeveen> Running mochitest-3 locally (vanilla mozilla-central) on Windows 7, I'm intermittently seeing test_HTMLDocument14.html time out the testing framework until it crashes itself - has anyone else seen that?
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, yes, I'd say MOZ_Assert should always be ignored
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# [16:25] <glazou> FWIW, we just released BlueGriffon 1.4.1
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# [16:28] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: then we should get a skiplist bug filed
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# [16:30] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, could you do the honours? :)
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# [16:34] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [16:34] <Ms2ger> Otoh, you already know how to do it :)
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# [16:47] <froydnj> khuey|away: "don't add tabs to makefiles" is kind of ironic
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger> twss
# [16:48] <froydnj> also, tabs for that sort of thing seems to be the prevailing style
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger> Well, XPCOM is the prevailing style too
# [16:48] <@khuey> froydnj: tabs only go on rules
# [16:48] <@khuey> nothing else
# [16:49] <froydnj> hobgoblin of little minds and all that
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# [17:10] <jorendorff> bc: it doesn't crash. it just reports OOM.
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# [17:11] <jorendorff> bc: so, if you were in the browser, I think what would happen is
# [17:11] <jorendorff> a particular event handler would be running and just suddenly die for no good reason, and you'd get an error on the error console
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# [17:19] <Ms2ger> ++DOMWINDOW == 1558 (0x2ba9b7adf878) [serial = 1744] [outer = 0x2ba9b7b25000]
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# [17:26] <jdm> mjessome: does autoland just use a continuous bzapi polling strategy? isn't that an ideal use-case for pulse?
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# [17:26] <Ms2ger> Hah, pulse
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# [17:42] <mjessome> jdm: it does right now, we didn't want to depend on pulse since it isn't really maintained anymore, and from what I understand, isn't the most reliable thing ever.
# [17:42] <jdm> hmm.
# [17:42] <jdm> mjessome: see bug 731672
# [17:43] <jdm> mjessome: specifically comment 33
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# [17:43] <mjessome> jdm: yeah, bug 732439 was filed against us a few minutes ago
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# [17:58] <edmorley> glob|away: the "bugs filed today" saved search (available in the public searches list), that I have pinned to my bugzilla footer, no longer works, and instead gives "You may not search, or create saved searches, without any search terms. " (search is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Bugs%20Filed%20Today&sharer_id=159758)
# [17:59] <edmorley> (the search is just a [bug creation] between now and -24h)
# [18:00] <WG9s> I ownder if that means the person who created it no longer has a bugzilla account.
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# [18:01] <edmorley> no, believe bug 731664 fallout
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# [18:01] <WG9s> ah tahat makes sense
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# [18:04] <edmorley> oh just seen bug 732409
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# [18:07] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: can you please review bug 665775 and bug 715744?
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# [18:17] <Ms2ger> * @return boolean
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# [18:17] <Ms2ger> Yay for most excellent javadocs
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# [18:19] <@bz_sleep> Ms2ger: thank you for putting that XHR stuff together
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# [18:19] <@bz_sleep> Ms2ger: Want to post to .platform asking people what they think about the resulting signatures?
# [18:20] <@bz_sleep> Ms2ger: btw, the binary renaming may be better to do on the webidl side, not the xpidl side....
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# [18:24] <Cwiiis> Anyone remember off-hand how to spin the main loop in Gecko?
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# [18:25] <@bz_sleep> "don't"
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# [18:26] <Cwiiis> Let's assume it's just proof-of-concept kinda stuff
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# [18:30] <Ms2ger> bz_sleep, np
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# [18:30] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, thanks
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# [18:32] <Ms2ger> bz, xpidl/webidl renaming; *shrug*, I knew how to do it in xpidl, didn't for webidl :)
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# [18:32] <@bz> we need a way for webidl
# [18:32] <@bz> is all
# [18:32] <@bz> though this may also be worth just bringing up on .platform
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# [18:34] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> Do you want to put a platform post together? :)
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> 1.67 +// Stub for other platforms. We can't use uintptr_t here since different
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> 1.68 +// processes could disagree on its size.
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> 1.69 +typedef uintptr_t CrossProcessMutexHandle;
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# [18:36] <mcsmurf> I have a question about the forEach function that can be used in chrome(?) .js files
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# [18:36] <mcsmurf> what's the second parameter for (the first one is the function to be executed)?
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> |this|
# [18:36] <mcsmurf> is this like the context that the function is executed within?
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> IIRC
# [18:36] <mcsmurf> yes, for example this
# [18:36] <Yoric> Indeed.
# [18:37] <Yoric> And I don't think its chrome only.
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> http://es5.github.com/#x15.4.4.18
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> It isn't
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> "If a thisArg parameter is provided, it will be used as the this value for each invocation of callbackfn. If it is not provided, undefined is used instead."
# [18:37] <@bz> Ms2ger: um... I can try, but not today
# [18:37] <mcsmurf> well, I saw most calls don't include a second parameter
# [18:37] <mcsmurf> ah
# [18:37] <@bz> Ms2ger: also, I'm not around on Monday
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> bz, oh, no hurry ;)
# [18:37] <@bz> Ms2ger: well, I'd like us to get a move on, which means sorting these things out
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# [18:38] <Ms2ger> Maybe bholley will volunteer ^^
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# [18:38] <bholley> Ms2ger: to do what?
# [18:38] <Ms2ger> Posting to m.d.platform
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# [18:39] <@bz> bholley: post to .platform about how we handle name collisions (rename the xpidl or webidl binary end) and about people taking a look at ms2ger's patch and seeing what they think of the APIs in practice
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# [18:39] <Ms2ger> (Also, peterv was going to continue work on the patch this afternoon)
# [18:40] <@bz> oh, ok
# [18:40] <@bz> good
# [18:40] <bholley> bz: I'm a bit out of the loop atm, so probably better for someone else to do
# [18:40] <@bz> he's one of the people who really need to look at this
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# [19:24] <jmaher> Jesse: ping
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# [19:32] <@bz> It's interesting to me that the people who're publicly saying anything about this CDM stuff are basically us and the web standards folks from Google
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# [19:42] <derf> bz: The Children's Discovery Museum?
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# [19:46] <Jesse> jmaher: pong
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# [19:46] <@dveditz> bz: and by "folks" you mean "hixie"? was there anyone else?
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# [19:48] <Jesse> derf: content decryption module http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
# [19:48] <Jesse> (sorry for linking to tip/ rather than default/, that's the link that's going around)
# [19:48] <derf> Oh, that.
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# [19:48] <@dveditz> why not call it DRM, afraid people would then figure out what they meant?
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# [19:49] <jmaher> Jesse: I am looking into the reftest stuff and it seems really hairy on android
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# [19:49] <derf> dveditz: Didn't you read the abstract? They were very clear.
# [19:49] <jmaher> Jesse: I turned off browser.tabs.remote (e10s) and all kinds of tests break on android
# [19:49] <derf> "No "DRM" is added to the HTML5 specification"
# [19:49] <derf> See, it says so right there.
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# [19:49] <jmaher> Jesse: so I don't think I will be changing tests anytime soon, but I will be filing a handful of related bugs
# [19:50] <jmaher> Jesse: do you want me to cc you on those bugs or put a whiteboard on them?
# [19:50] <@dveditz> right, the DRM is in the content
# [19:50] <@dveditz> not in the spec
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# [19:51] <Jesse> it could be an improvement to have a small DRM module that works with the web stack rather than a gigantic plugin that has its own
# [19:51] <reuben> "What use cases does this support? Everything from user-generated content to be shared with family (user is not an adversary) to online radio to feature-length movies." the use cases they list are all covered already, they didn't do a great job of hiding the DRM
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# [19:54] <Jesse> jmaher: whiteboard or metabug sounds better
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# [19:56] <espindola> rail: can you upload the clang packages somewhere?
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# [19:57] <jprmc> bhearsum: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731617 is the nightly/maple bug
# [19:57] <jprmc> bhearsum: for instance http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/latest-maple-android/ does not have a Mar 2 build
# [19:58] <bhearsum> jprmc: hmm, that folder has an android build from today for me
# [19:58] <bhearsum> fennec-13.0a1.en-US.android-arm.apk02-Mar-2012 08:30 15M
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# [19:59] <jprmc> bhearsum: hrm, you are correct, it does now, it triggered much later than the 4:40am i am used to
# [19:59] <bhearsum> yeah, that's pretty late
# [20:00] <bhearsum> looks like armen is looking at that for now, if it's still an issue on monday i'll dig into it further
# [20:00] <bhearsum> (sorry, caught up in a million things today)
# [20:01] <jprmc> np
# [20:01] <jprmc> bhearsum: thanks a lot
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# [20:01] <bhearsum> your welcome
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# [20:02] <espindola> or someone else from releng (upload the current clang packages somewhere)
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# [20:02] <philor> woo, only 79 unstarred failures on inbound
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# [20:03] <espindola> !seen armenzg_buildduty
# [20:03] <firebot> armenzg_buildduty was last seen 24 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying 'thanks :)' in #build.
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# [20:04] <mbrubeck> this browser_dbg_select-line.js timeout looks new and frequent
# [20:04] * mbrubeck eyes the fx-team merge
# [20:05] <mbrubeck> sure enough, looks like it showed up on fx-team yesterday
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# [20:08] <philor> considering how expensive fx-team is, it would be nice if we got a little more benefit from it
# [20:08] <mbrubeck> Looks like a regression from bug 690404; in fact it first showed up on the landing of 690404
# [20:08] <armenzg_buildduty> espindola: I can upload it; which bug?
# [20:08] <mbrubeck> but was mis-starred :(
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# [20:08] <Mossop> philor: Expensive?
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# [20:09] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: 731504
# [20:09] <philor> Mossop: we can't coalesce jobs there with jobs on inbound when we're busy, when I remember to star it it requires opening another tbpl tab, extra runs for every merge to it
# [20:09] <espindola> thanks
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# [20:10] <philor> which is fine if it has a benefit that I don't see, but if it's just "the inbound where nobody spots the test failures before they merge" then it's not doing us much good
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# [20:12] <armenzg_buildduty> I am trying to understand what is needed to be done in bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731504
# [20:12] <armenzg_buildduty> rail is out for few hours for appt
# [20:12] <Mossop> philor: Yeah that doesn't sound so great
# [20:12] <armenzg_buildduty> he should soon be back
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# [20:13] <Mossop> philor: Email gavin with the problems it's causing, I'm sure we can reconsider whether it is worth having it
# [20:13] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: put the package somewher
# [20:13] <espindola> e
# [20:13] <espindola> so that non-releng people can get it
# [20:13] <espindola> both the rpm
# [20:14] <espindola> and the dmg
# [20:14] <espindola> it is sad that repo is internal
# [20:15] <armenzg_buildduty> do you have any instances of where others in my team have uploaded it to?
# [20:15] <espindola> so it is hard to reproduce problems that depend on the compiler
# [20:15] <armenzg_buildduty> I will ask to see what/where I am supposed to put such
# [20:15] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: sure
# [20:15] <espindola> http://people.mozilla.org/~raliiev/clang
# [20:15] <espindola> or gcc or yasm
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# [20:15] <espindola> put you can put it anywhere really
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# [20:15] <espindola> just need to be able to copy it
# [20:16] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: this is something we really should *not* have a process on
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# [20:17] <armenzg_buildduty> espindola: imagine I put it on my people account; is it OK if I remove it few months later when I don't remember anything?
# [20:17] <Ms2ger> !summon ehsan
# [20:17] <armenzg_buildduty> on another note, I want to be sure that there is no process already
# [20:17] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: from my point of view you can remove after I download it
# [20:17] <espindola> and I can put it on my account
# [20:18] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: hi
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# [20:18] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: every other releng person I asked just uploaded to people
# [20:18] <jprmc> ehsan: do you have a few minutes to talk about bugzilla tweaks?
# [20:18] <@ehsan> jprmc: sure
# [20:18] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/
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# [20:19] <@ehsan> jprmc: where?
# [20:19] <espindola> these are open source software
# [20:19] <Ms2ger> ehsan, do you happen to know why nsHTMLEditor::GetPriorHTMLNode and nsHTMLEditor::GetNextHTMLNode have different code flow?
# [20:19] <espindola> it is a bug that we need to ping people to get to them
# [20:19] <jprmc> ehsan: my desk is fine
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# [20:19] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: will get back to you in a few
# [20:20] <Ms2ger> k
# [20:20] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646247 in fact
# [20:21] <armenzg_buildduty> espindola: one sec. I am trying to get to other duty stuff. 2-3 mins
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# [20:26] <armenzg_buildduty> espindola: I am fixing something with IT and it is going to take longer than I thought
# [20:26] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: can you just email the packages to me
# [20:26] <armenzg_buildduty> if you poke someone else or paste the URLs for me to download it would be much faster
# [20:26] <espindola> or scp there to a machine in the office?
# [20:26] <armenzg_buildduty> sigh
# [20:26] <armenzg_buildduty> I have to figure out the urls
# [20:26] <espindola> armenzg_buildduty: I don't have access to it
# [20:27] <espindola> that is the problem
# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> fine I will do it and tell IT to wait
# [20:27] <espindola> it is all locked up in releng
# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> I wish it wasn't
# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> I didn't set up the system
# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> *systems
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# [20:27] <espindola> I *really* wished a lot was not locked up in releng
# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> we have a thousand open bugs and we try to keep afloat
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# [20:27] <armenzg_buildduty> let me do my work please
# [20:28] <espindola> is there anyone else from releng that can scp a file in here?
# [20:28] <bhearsum> espindola: please, have some patience
# [20:28] <espindola> bhearsum: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=de68b8e80a6d
# [20:28] <espindola> that is the try to switch to clang
# [20:28] <espindola> we have a windown on 13
# [20:29] <espindola> if that passes I am afraid it will take one *long* time for it to happen
# [20:29] <espindola> that is why I am trying to work on it during pto
# [20:29] <espindola> this is a releng lockdown on top of another
# [20:29] <espindola> I cannot build the packages
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# [20:29] <espindola> and on top of that I cannot get the packages they build
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# [20:30] <bhearsum> armenzg_buildduty will get to it as soon as he can, and being pushy isn't going to make it go any faster
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# [20:31] <bhearsum> i know it's frustrating that some of these things are "locked up", but that's not something we can fix right away
# [20:31] <espindola> I don't think anything makes anything go any fast. I was never able to get someone tell me why I am not allowed to build packages
# [20:31] <espindola> just that I was not
# [20:31] <espindola> faster
# [20:32] <@bz> jlebar: dochell, eh? ;)
# [20:33] <jlebar> bz, Apt, no?
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> Wasn't smaug going to cleanup docshell?
# [20:33] <jhammel> Ms2ger: i thought you were?
# [20:33] <@bz> jlebar: a Freudian typo if I ever saw one
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# [20:33] <jlebar> bz, Kind of interesting, because the variable is used more than once.
# [20:34] <jlebar> Maybe the "s" key was broken that day or something. :)
# [20:34] <@bz> jlebar: do[M-/]
# [20:34] <@bz> jlebar: almost certainl
# [20:34] <@bz> or rather ourD[M-/]
# [20:34] <@bz> "certainly"
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# [20:39] <jhford-work> espindola: hey, i'd like to help you get what you need. can you please respond to bug 731504 comment 14?
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# [20:40] <@bz> hmm
# [20:40] <espindola> jhford-work: both rpms and dmgs
# [20:40] <@bz> we still support <svg:style xlink:href>, eh? :(
# [20:41] <espindola> and if you know I would also love to know why I am not allowed to build them
# [20:41] <jhford-work> espindola: what is stopping you from building the rpms and dmgs?
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# [20:42] <espindola> jhford-work: the fact that releng only deploys packages they build
# [20:42] <espindola> so I have to build, test them a bit locally
# [20:42] <espindola> have someone from releng build them againg
# [20:42] <espindola> deploy
# [20:42] <espindola> then I can run them on try
# [20:42] <jhford-work> for rpms that is a simple process
# [20:42] <espindola> and then beg to get the packages to try to reproduce a problem
# [20:43] <espindola> it is very easy to build
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# [20:43] <espindola> but releng will not deploy a package that I have built
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# [20:43] <jhford-work> there are reasons for that, reproducability and verifying documentation are very important
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# [20:43] <espindola> (even for stuff that is not yet used)
# [20:44] <jhford-work> i am working on a tool to make this much easier
# [20:44] <espindola> jhford-work: the process is *not* reprocible
# [20:44] <espindola> I have a bug open for making reproducible builds
# [20:44] <espindola> the current ones are *not*
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# [20:44] <jhford-work> as in the build system is non-deterministic?
# [20:44] <espindola> regardeles of what team I happen to be listed on
# [20:44] <espindola> jhford-work: yes, it yes
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# [20:45] <espindola> ar, tar, and gzip are not reproducible by default
# [20:45] <espindola> or g++ if you have anonymous namespaces
# [20:45] <jhford-work> are their outputs functionally equivalent?
# [20:45] <espindola> we also embed system headers
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# [20:45] <espindola> jhford-work: should be, in which case my packages are fine too
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# [20:46] <espindola> If I had interviwed for releng the build system would be the same
# [20:46] <jhford-work> i am not sure what you're trying to say there
# [20:46] <espindola> as non reproducible as the builds are, the team I am in doesn't make them more non reproducible
# [20:47] <espindola> so reproduciability should not be a reason for someone from releng having to rebuild the packages
# [20:47] <espindola> and me asking to get them back
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# [20:48] <jhford-work> it's also to verify the documentation is correct. the best way to verify documentation is to have someone use it
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# [20:48] <espindola> jhford-work: 683975 if you are interested in what it takes to make the build reproducible
# [20:49] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: so to answer your question, no, it's probably historical reasons I assume
# [20:49] <espindola> jhford-work: documentation? Not sure what you mean, but the very next thing that is done with a package after it is built
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# [20:49] <espindola> is push it to the bots
# [20:49] <espindola> and use it on try
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# [20:49] <jhford-work> i am working on a tool for making developer submitted toolchains available on try
# [20:49] <espindola> jhford-work: that is good. I was going to work on that on 683975
# [20:49] <espindola> after getting a reproducible build
# [20:50] <espindola> but they are independent problems, so it is awesome that you are already working on it
# [20:50] <espindola> thanks
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so, if I just replace GetPriorHTMLNode() with the implementation of GetNextHTMLNode(), with s/GetNextNode/GetPriorNode/, that would pass your review? :)
# [20:50] <jhford-work> espindola: cool!
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# [20:50] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: if it passes tests, then gladly yes@
# [20:50] <@ehsan> *!
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> Ah, tests
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# [20:52] <espindola> jhford-work: I think all that is missing to make it reproducible is passing an explicit --disable-lto (or --enable-lto) to gcc
# [20:52] <jhford-work> espindola: in the mean time, i'll post the current clang rpms and dmgs to people. i've asked our team to post the dmgs and rpms to a public http server when they're built in future
# [20:52] <espindola> and using the stage1 ar when bulding stage2
# [20:52] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: isn't it sheppy's job to clean up docs hell?
# [20:52] <espindola> jhford-work: that remove one step
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# [20:53] <jhford-work> espindola: great
# [20:53] <espindola> I really hope that once the build produces binary identical output releng will be happy with building it
# [20:53] <espindola> it would then be fully redundant to have someone else build the package again
# [20:53] <espindola> with *me* building it
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# [20:58] <akeybl> we'll wait to hear back from QA, and we may land on Monday depending on their testing
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# [21:01] <jhford-work> espindola: i've posted to the bug with location for the current toolchains, people/~jford
# [21:02] <espindola> thanks!
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# [21:45] <Ms2ger> nsDebug.h:111:0: warning: "NS_ASSERTION" redefined
# [21:45] <Ms2ger> Nice
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# [22:00] <timeless> Ms2ger: that should take effort..
# [22:01] <Ms2ger> ./xpcom/string/public/nsCharTraits.h
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# [22:04] <@bz> jlebar: how close are you to landing your hash stuff?
# [22:05] <jlebar> bz, I can land bug 729952 once I fix up per the last review.
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Ship it
# [22:05] <jlebar> So...not more than an hour, if you're waiting.
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# [22:05] <Ms2ger> (Also, hi timeless)
# [22:05] <@bz> actually, nevermind
# [22:05] <timeless> hi Ms2ger
# [22:05] <romaxa> dbaron: bz: I'm using new invalidation system from mattwodrow patchqueue, and see problem that RefreshDriver Notify->PaintFrame framerate (70FPS) is much higher than widget paint events (35)... is there are some right way to sync RefreshDriver and suspend it until screen paint happens?
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# [22:05] <timeless> have a good weekend all
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Enjoy
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# [22:06] * @bz realizes that this hash key doesn't use '^' so you didn't change it anyway
# [22:06] <@bz> alright, then
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# [22:06] <jlebar> bz, Oh, a correct hash key?
# [22:06] <@bz> once you land I can make this stuff a bit beter
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# [22:06] <@bz> jlebar: no, it just ignores some of the members
# [22:06] <jlebar> bz, heh
# [22:06] <@bz> jlebar: because it has no good way to hash them, just to compare them
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# [22:06] <@bz> romaxa: refresh driver is just a 16ms timer
# [22:07] <@bz> romaxa: pref controlled
# [22:07] <@bz> romaxa: you can change the pref to use a different timer interval
# [22:07] <@bz> romaxa: no way to sync right now
# [22:07] <romaxa> bz: ok
# [22:07] <romaxa> bz: I saw pref
# [22:07] <@bz> romaxa: (though iirc that's how it works in WebKit, which means it's not cross-platform there and stuff)
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# [22:09] <ehoogeveen> Man, this mochitest crash is leading me deep into the bowels of URI creation
# [22:09] <RobertClaypool> what file/registry key does firefox keep its list of extensions/plugins/addons it is to try to load?
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# [22:09] <@bz> ehoogeveen: what crash?
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# [22:09] <ehoogeveen> I'm seeing a Java-VM related crash locally in mochitest-5
# [22:09] <ehoogeveen> on vanilla m-c
# [22:11] <@bz> ok
# [22:11] <ehoogeveen> I'm still debugging it, will let you what comes up (at the highest level, it's a null dereference in nsPluginInstanceOwner::EnsureCachedAttrParamArrays )
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# [22:12] <@bz> ok
# [22:12] * @bz bets he knows what's going on
# [22:13] <@bz> but let's see what comes up. ;)
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# [22:13] <Ms2ger> bz, post a hash on your blog?
# [22:13] <@bz> Ms2ger: meh
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# [22:15] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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# [22:16] <Ms2ger> Instead of writing that test, you could review :)
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# [22:17] <Ms2ger> That works
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# [22:29] <RobertClaypool> Why can't you?
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# [22:34] <@bz> RobertClaypool: because they'd go randomorange?
# [22:34] <@bz> RobertClaypool: at least I haven't figured out a way to not have them do that
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# [22:37] * @bz hopes sicking will actually review this stuff
# [22:37] <@khuey> heh
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# [22:38] <RobertClaypool> So you've actually tried?
# [22:38] <@bz> RobertClaypool: writing the tests? I've done thought experiments, yes
# [22:39] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=bzbarsky%40mit.edu&product=&type=all&requestee=jonas%40sicking.cc&component=&group=type is not too bad
# [22:39] <@bz> If I ignore that request from last May
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# [22:40] <RobertClaypool> So what is your last thought before everything goes pear-shaped?
# [22:40] <armenzg_buildduty> joe: jprmc can I assume you can trigger nightly builds if wanted until Monday, correct?
# [22:40] <armenzg_buildduty> joe: would you actually be able to not trigger anything on Monday?
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# [22:41] <armenzg_buildduty> I will mention this as well on the bug
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# [22:41] <@bz> RobertClaypool: the fact that the preload and the real load can race
# [22:41] <@bz> RobertClaypool: so afaict there is no guarantee that one will happen before the other....
# [22:42] <@bz> RobertClaypool: and hence making practical assertions about them is hard
# [22:42] <armenzg_buildduty> joe: actually it is not important
# [22:42] <@bz> RobertClaypool: I could maybe write tests that would randomly pass even if things break
# [22:42] <@bz> RobertClaypool: but might become randomorange in that situation
# [22:42] <@bz> RobertClaypool: I haven't figured out a way to write one that's reliably green when things are working and reliably orange when they're not
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# [22:43] <RobertClaypool> that's enough wor me to work with
# [22:43] <@bz> ok
# [22:43] <@bz> if you figure something out, that would rock
# [22:43] <@bz> The basic goal is to write tests that make sure that we don't end up double-fetching
# [22:43] <@bz> due to preloads
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# [22:44] <@bz> and that we do in fact end up preloading, ideally
# [22:44] * @bz is not sure how to test this last
# [22:44] <@bz> but if we could....
# [22:44] <@bz> anyway
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# [22:45] <RobertClaypool> so the can you sort things from least to most speculative... ones that are more likely to be loaded as opposed to those that are less likely?
# [22:46] <RobertClaypool> /the/then/
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# [22:48] <@bz> Not sure what you mean
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# [22:51] <RobertClaypool> Bayes' theorem is relevant here right?
# [22:52] <@bz> it's relevant everywhere
# [22:52] <@bz> at that level of vagueness
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# [22:52] <RobertClaypool> most probable to lest probable
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# [22:54] <Jesse> bz: tell the httpd to not send the rest of the file until firefox has sent a prefetch request?
# [22:54] <RobertClaypool> you need a historical database of loads to work with
# [22:55] <Jesse> bz: expose the function you want to test, and test it directly?
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# [22:56] <RobertClaypool> one problem seemss to be that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing
# [22:56] <RobertClaypool> so each of them might accidentally do the same work
# [22:56] <bjacob> oh, orange on inbound, fixing it
# [22:57] <RobertClaypool> so you need to brake the work down into bundles that can be assigned probabilities.
# [22:58] <RobertClaypool> you have the pre loader load the highest probable ones first and have the real loader load everything else
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# [23:01] <RobertClaypool> but you need to recalcul;ate the probabilites on every load.
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# [23:06] <@bz> RobertClaypool: um
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# [23:06] <@bz> RobertClaypool: do you know how the preloader works?
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# [23:06] <RobertClaypool> Not entirely...
# [23:07] <@bz> ok
# [23:07] <RobertClaypool> Where's the spec sheet?
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# [23:07] <@bz> so basically, we have internal caches
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# [23:07] <@bz> when the parser sees one of a set of tags (img, link, script, etc) it kicks off a preload
# [23:07] <@bz> when the corresponding element is created, the real load starts
# [23:07] <@bz> the idea is that the real load hits the primed preload cache
# [23:08] <@bz> and doesn't have to hit the network at all
# [23:08] <@bz> is this making any sense?
# [23:08] <RobertClaypool> yes
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# [23:09] <RobertClaypool> the preloader needs to know what to load from the cache first, then second then third
# [23:09] <@bz> ok
# [23:09] <@bz> no
# [23:09] <@bz> it doesn't need to know anything about that
# [23:09] <@bz> it just posts events to do loads as it tokenizes
# [23:10] <@bz> And what I would like to test are two things:
# [23:10] <@bz> 1) We never end up with two loads instead of one as a result of this process
# [23:10] <@bz> 2) The preloader actually works
# [23:11] <RobertClaypool> so the preloader tokenises, does it do anything else?
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# [23:11] <@bz> posts events to the main thread to start the preloads
# [23:12] <RobertClaypool> you mean start the real loads, right?
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# [23:12] <@bz> no, to start the preloads
# [23:12] <@bz> the real loads will happen when the elements are inserted in the DOM
# [23:13] <RobertClaypool> so the preloads posts events to start more preloads?
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# [23:13] <@bz> the speculative tokenizer posts events to start preloads
# [23:13] <@bz> to be more precise
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# [23:15] <RobertClaypool> so the speculative tokenizer speculates as to what?
# [23:15] <@bz> as to whether the tokens will be the ones we think they will be
# [23:17] <RobertClaypool> so you have a historical database of sort of tokens?
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# [23:18] <philor> alas, poor Yoric is getting backed out
# [23:18] <jhammel> i knew him, philor
# [23:19] <@bz> no, we have a stream of characters from the HTML file
# [23:19] <@bz> RobertClaypool: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/speculative-html5-parsing/
# [23:19] <@bz> RobertClaypool: start there and read?
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# [23:20] <@bz> RobertClaypool: including the links
# [23:20] <jdm> jhammel: a man of infinite JS
# [23:20] <jhammel> :)
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# [23:24] <jimm> ehsan: ping
# [23:25] <@ehsan> jimm: hi
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# [23:26] <jimm> ehsan: hey. in bug 694432 we added this sanitizedFilePath byte check on the first byte. I just ran into a case debugging fennec on win8 where the first byte was larger than 1024 and wasn't part of the string. The value was 2049.
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# [23:27] <jimm> I'll file a bug, just curious if you had any thoughts.
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# [23:27] <@khuey> 4096!
# [23:28] <@ehsan> jimm: see comment 12 on the bug
# [23:28] <@ehsan> that function is undocumented
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# [23:28] <@ehsan> and we don't really know what they pass in :(
# [23:28] <@ehsan> maybe we should extend that check... :/
# [23:28] <lsblakk> bent: ping
# [23:28] <jimm> ehsan: ok, will file this
# [23:28] <@ehsan> jimm: maybe a good heuristic would be checking the least significant bit
# [23:28] <bent> lsblakk, howdy
# [23:29] <@ehsan> jimm: since a valid pointer shouldn't have that set
# [23:29] <@ehsan> jimm: feel free to write a patch and ask for review ;)
# [23:29] <jimm> ok, thanks! :)
# [23:29] <bent> ehsan, when does your update-before-restart patch land?
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# [23:30] <lsblakk> hey bent, just commented on bug 718202 and hope you might be able to land it right away for esr10?
# [23:30] <lsblakk> it just showed up on our radar and we were about to go to build
# [23:30] <@ehsan> bent: when it gets reviewed?
# [23:30] <@khuey> ehsan++
# [23:31] <jimm> ehsan: interesting stack - this is on a rand_s call - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1499334
# [23:31] <bent> lsblakk, oh, didn't know that was nom'd
# [23:32] <lsblakk> heh - we missed it cause its status-firefox11 was 'verified' instead of 'fixed'
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# [23:32] <lsblakk> dveditz just caught it today, since it's fixed in 11 we do need it
# [23:32] <lsblakk> sorry to rush you
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# [23:32] <bent> lsblakk, ok, one sec
# [23:32] <lsblakk> thank you
# [23:32] <RobertClaypool> What is "Talos"
# [23:32] <@ehsan> jimm: hmm, yeah that function might be implemented in a dll
# [23:32] <@khuey> RobertClaypool: our performance measurement stuff
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# [23:33] <lsblakk> also a god, i think
# [23:33] <@khuey> no, he wasn't a god
# [23:33] <jhammel> nah, he was just a giant man of bronze
# [23:33] <RobertClaypool> Talos was a giant man of bronze
# [23:33] <lsblakk> right
# [23:33] <@khuey> he was the guardian of crete
# [23:33] <@khuey> iirc
# [23:34] <RobertClaypool> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos
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# [23:34] <darktrojan> pff, bronze
# [23:34] * jhammel wonders if talos got his baby booties bronzed
# [23:35] <darktrojan> not going to do much good guarding when you can just run around him
# [23:35] <RobertClaypool> I have Firefox set up so I can type en Topic to go to that topic in Wikipeida
# [23:35] <bent> lsblakk, i show it being applied already to esr
# [23:35] <RobertClaypool> hte english wikkipeida, rather
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# [23:35] <lsblakk> oh? that's...good
# [23:35] <bent> heh
# [23:35] <bent> i hope!
# [23:35] <RobertClaypool> now if only I could type as well as I can spell
# [23:36] <bent> lsblakk,
# [23:36] <bent> $ hg transplant -s ../mozilla-beta/ 9ce530c3cf52
# [23:36] <bent> searching for changes
# [23:36] <bent> skipping already applied revision 81618:9ce530c3cf52
# [23:36] <bent> and sure enough it looks applied
# [23:36] <lsblakk> ok, sorry - tracking on 10 wasn't marked as fixed
# [23:36] <lsblakk> thank you
# [23:36] <bent> ok
# [23:36] <bent> np
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# [23:42] <Waldo> bz: you could add some sort of internal pref that added a X-Preload:true header to the preload load, then have the request handler act specially for preload versus not to replicate whatever it was you wanted to test
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# [23:43] <joe> uh
# [23:43] <joe> make[8]: *** No rule to make target `../../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py', needed by `libs'. Stop.
# [23:43] <joe> fresh checkout of m-c
# [23:43] <squib> joe: see topic?
# [23:43] <@bz> Waldo: hmm.... maybe
# [23:43] <joe> ah
# [23:44] <joe> squib: thanks; apparently i am incapable of seeing topics
# [23:44] <squib> joe: no worries
# [23:44] <jdm> that's ok, you are in the company of every other single person here
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# [23:44] <RyanVM> jlebar: ping
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# [23:44] <jlebar> RyanVM, hey
# [23:45] <RyanVM> you broke inbound
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# [23:45] <jlebar> RyanVM so I did.
# [23:45] <jlebar> Gah!
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# [23:46] <ehoogeveen> RyanVM, sorry about earlier; I'm wrestling with mochitests at the moment
# [23:46] <RyanVM> ehoogeveen: no prob! Best way to learn is to break things :P
# [23:46] <ehoogeveen> a trial by fire as it were :)
# [23:46] <RyanVM> though I'm still waiting to have a push with no backouts....
# [23:47] <bjacob> jlebar: let me guess. your favorite color is red?
# [23:48] <jlebar> bjacob, Just wanted to give everyone a bit of excitement at the end of the day.
# [23:48] <bjacob> thanks for that!
# [23:49] <jlebar> bjacob, my pleasure.
# [23:50] <jlebar> RyanVM, I'm pushing a fix. It's a missing #include. :(
# [23:50] * Waldo goes back and reads commentary backscroll in bug 729952
# [23:50] <RyanVM> jlebar: sounds good
# [23:51] * Waldo snickers at comment 54 part b
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# [23:51] <Waldo> er, part c
# [23:52] <RyanVM> jst: probably should have waited on that push....
# [23:52] <Waldo> "I think we all are having too much fun with this (myself included!)." ahahaha, so true
# [23:53] <RyanVM> Waldo: Yeah, serious math geek mental masturbation going on in that bug
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# [23:57] <biesi_> Waldo, which bug is that?
# [23:57] <Waldo> biesi_: go back a few lines further
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# [23:57] <biesi_> Waldo, is this not the lazyweb? :(
# [23:57] * biesi_ finds it
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# [23:58] <Waldo> biesi_: I mentioned the bug number 3 minutes before, in this channel...
# [23:58] <biesi_> Waldo, i was joking
# [23:59] <biesi_> implying that I'm too lazy to read 3 lines up
# [23:59] <Waldo> biesi_: humor in this channel is completely out of line
# [23:59] <Waldo> biesi_: go sit in the corner
# [23:59] <biesi_> lcuky me, I already do
# Session Close: Sat Mar 03 00:00:00 2012

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