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# Session Start: Fri Mar 09 00:00:01 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <@dolske> bjacob: they were talking with Bas about that when I left the meeting a bit ago.
# [00:01] <tn> cpearce, cool, if you want to tackle that too :)
# [00:01] <bjacob> dolske: akeybl: yeah ok, doing it now. taking 5 min because there are 8 patches
# [00:01] <cpearce> tn: I'm more than happy for someone else to! :)
# [00:02] <tn> cpearce, heh, ok
# [00:02] <akeybl> bjacob: thank you
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# [00:13] <Cww> smaug: how do I use about:cc? not sure what you meant when you linked me to a bug.
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# [00:13] <@smaug> Cww: did you install the addon?
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# [00:14] <@smaug> Cww: the bug has the addon as an attachment
# [00:14] <Cww> nevermind, was looking at the wrong attachment.
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# [00:14] <bjacob> akeybl: pushed
# [00:15] <akeybl> bjacob: thanks!
# [00:15] <Cww> smaug: ok, installed, now what?
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# [00:15] <@smaug> Cww: you load about:cc url
# [00:15] <@smaug> and click Run cycle collector
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# [00:15] <@smaug> and then Find documents
# [00:16] <Cww> smaug: do I need to restart?
# [00:16] <Cww> address not valid.
# [00:16] <@smaug> hmm
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# [00:16] <@smaug> is it restartless addon
# [00:16] <Cww> yeah.
# [00:16] <Cww> that's what it looks like
# [00:16] <Cww> but about:cc not working.
# [00:16] <@smaug> do you have about:telemetry?
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# [00:17] <Cww> smaug: yes
# [00:17] <@smaug> though, the latest version of about:cc shouldn't have any problems with about:telemetry
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# [00:17] <@smaug> Cww: did you install the very latest version of about:cc
# [00:17] <@smaug> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=602281
# [00:17] <Cww> I took what was in the attachemnt.
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# [00:18] <Cww> huh, that worked.
# [00:18] <Cww> I think I just failed at attachments.
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# [00:19] <@smaug> Cww: anyway, I think restart might be good
# [00:19] <Cww> ok
# [00:19] <@smaug> otherwise you may see some random xbl documents
# [00:19] <@smaug> in the cc log
# [00:19] <Cww> ok, restarting.
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# [00:23] <@smaug> Cww: so, normally after running cycle collector and clicking find documents, the tool should report "No possibly-leaked nsDocument objects in the log"
# [00:24] <Cww> smaug: yep, that's what I get.
# [00:25] <@smaug> Cww: also, a normal cc log should have less than 10000 objects
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# [00:26] <RyanVM> PSM patches land on inbound, right?
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# [00:28] <philor> we're going to LOAD_BYPASS_CACHE for live bookmarks because a test times out, and loading the test feed is blazing fast without the cache?
# [00:28] <Cww> smaug: 9357 objects after restart.
# [00:28] <Cww> that's less good.
# [00:28] <Cww> ran it again, 11527 objects
# [00:29] <philor> not "for the test," not "temporarily for all live bookmarks until this dependent bug is fixed," just "screw caching, everyone has a fast connection and every server has unlimited bandwidth"
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# [00:32] <@smaug> Cww: yeah, you may see random higher numbers
# [00:32] <@smaug> Cww: but 9000 after restart is high
# [00:32] <@smaug> very high
# [00:32] <@smaug> if I have only one tab, I get something like 2000, IIRC
# [00:34] <Cww> well my restart reloads 12 app tabs.
# [00:34] <WeirdAl> *sigh* so now --disable-accessibility means busted build, at least on Win7 :(
# [00:34] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger was right
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# [00:34] <hub> WeirdAl: uh?
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# [00:35] <WeirdAl> hub - I've been having trouble building mozilla-central
# [00:35] <hub> davidb: <WeirdAl> *sigh* so now --disable-accessibility means busted build, at least on Win7 :(
# [00:35] <@smaug> Cww: I have 23 tabs
# [00:35] <@smaug> and 7000 objects in cc log
# [00:35] <hub> WeirdAl: unfortunately I don't do Windows, but --disable-accessibility should work IMHO
# [00:35] <cpearce> tn: so it seems that when the subdocframe's inner view doesn't match the rootViewSibling we calculated earlier, the newRootView has already been inserted into the subdocframe's inner view's tree, so there's no point in re-inserting it. So perhaps we should just check to see if the subdocframe's inner view is different to the rootViewTree, and only insert the newRootView if they don't differ,...
# [00:35] <cpearce> ...i.e. subdoc's not got a new inner view.
# [00:35] <WeirdAl> I had --disable-accessibility in my mozconfig, and died in WinMouseScrollHandler.cpp
# [00:36] <Cww> smaug: ;_;
# [00:36] <WeirdAl> removed that, and it built fine
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# [00:36] <Cww> anyhow, is there anything in particular you're looking for wrt https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734171
# [00:36] <davidb> WeirdAl: first I've heard of this
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# [00:36] <WeirdAl> of course, I can't build with a11y w/o VS pro
# [00:37] <hub> WeirdAl: mind filing a bug ? the component is Core | Disability Access API
# [00:37] <hub> WeirdAl: davidb and I are in the A11y team
# [00:37] <WeirdAl> hub - not at all, but it might take me a while to grab the exact failure again.
# [00:37] <cpearce> tn: s/rootViewsibling/rootViewParent/
# [00:38] <WeirdAl> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1507644
# [00:38] <cpearce> tn: (the assertion at nsViewManager.cpp:993 is firing when we insert newRootView, when we're using the subdocframe's inner view as the rootViewParent in the crashing case - the case where rootViewParent and the subdocframes inner view differ)
# [00:38] <WeirdAl> davidb, hub: ^^
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# [00:40] <WeirdAl> hub: already filed by someone else as bug 733988
# [00:40] <WeirdAl> :)
# [00:40] <WeirdAl> I didn't realize that
# [00:40] <hub> oh
# [00:40] <hub> ok
# [00:40] <hub> changeset: 88303:611579ad9098
# [00:40] <hub> user: Masayuki Nakano <masayuki@d-toybox.com>
# [00:40] <hub> date: Tue Mar 06 12:20:28 2012 +0900
# [00:40] <hub> that's the commit
# [00:40] <Cww> smaug: forgot to ping you... is there anything wrt about:cc that you wanted for bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734171
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# [00:41] <hub> WeirdAl: and it is on inbound
# [00:41] <WeirdAl> so it'll be fixed with the next inbound->central rollup
# [00:41] <WeirdAl> all righty then!
# [00:41] <philor> WeirdAl: I don't think it's true anymore than you can't build a11y with express
# [00:41] <@smaug> Cww: so, I assumed the hang is there all the time after switching to private browsing
# [00:41] <philor> pretty sure I haven't been disabling it on Windows for quite some time
# [00:41] <hub> WeirdAl: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/afa6624ca059
# [00:41] <WeirdAl> news to me, philor, but obviously I haven't tried
# [00:42] <@smaug> Cww: can you load about:cc in private browsing mode
# [00:42] <hub> WeirdAl: you can fix manually
# [00:42] <@smaug> Cww: does it show any leaked documents?
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# [00:42] <WeirdAl> hub - meh, I'm not in that big a hurry :)
# [00:42] <hub> davidb: looks like it was fixed in inbound
# [00:42] <hub> WeirdAl: your call :-)
# [00:43] <Cww> smaug: no, it just hangs for 4 minutes and then it's fine.
# [00:43] <Cww> but it's a very long hang.
# [00:43] <@smaug> oh
# [00:43] <@smaug> right
# [00:43] <davidb> hub: good
# [00:43] <RyanVM> hmm...maybe now isn't the best time to be checking in to inbound
# [00:43] <@smaug> Cww: so you have tons of objects alive, I guess
# [00:43] <@smaug> and those are deleted
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# [00:44] <@smaug> Cww: someone should profile that case
# [00:44] <@smaug> (use Shark on OSX)
# [00:45] <RyanVM> mwu: ping
# [00:45] <Cww> smaug: I'm afraid I need step by step instructions.
# [00:45] <RyanVM> philor: I'm going to back mwu out for the android bustage
# [00:46] <@smaug> Cww: are you in MV?
# [00:46] <Cww> smaug: yes.
# [00:46] <@smaug> I'm sure someone could do that for you
# [00:47] <@smaug> or if you could create exacts steps to reproduce
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# [00:47] <tn> cpearce, can i see your code?
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# [00:47] <WeirdAl> hub - of course, the question then becomes: why'd it work with a11y and not w/o it?
# [00:48] <WeirdAl> where'd the gkAtoms.h header come from under a11y
# [00:48] <philor> RyanVM: who which where?
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# [00:49] <RyanVM> philor: REFTEST TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | http://10.250.48.210:30072/tests/image/test/reftest/colordepth.html | image comparison (==)
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# [00:49] <philor> oh, yeah
# [00:49] <Cww> smaug: I wish I could... I gave away my profile as well as disk images and we coudln't repro
# [00:49] <mwu> RyanVM: pong
# [00:49] <RyanVM> mwu: just backed you out
# [00:49] <tbsaunde> WeirdAl: if you mean nsGkAtoms.h that comes from content/base/src/ but I don't think we pull that into any header
# [00:49] <mwu> ok thanks
# [00:49] <mwu> that test is likely just bogus
# [00:50] <philor> I just saw two oranges and two purples and was thinking "failure? that's not failure, that's only 4!"
# [00:50] <WeirdAl> right, thanks tbsaunde
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# [00:50] <RyanVM> mwu: Hopefully :)
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# [00:50] <mwu> yeah that test is completely bogus.
# [00:51] <mwu> android has been 16bit for a long time
# [00:51] <mwu> we're just telling the truth now and it can't handle it
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# [00:51] <RyanVM> all jack nicholson and stuff
# [00:51] <cpearce> tn: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1509517
# [00:52] <WeirdAl> bool tellTheTruth = true // throws Out Of Memory because it can't handle it any more
# [00:53] <NeilZZZ> WeirdAl: if you were really bored you could ask it to make the .i file and see what includes nsGkAtoms.h
# [00:53] <cpearce> tn: without the change to nsViewManager::InsertChild, we go into an infinite loop inside layout, when looping over view children in nsView::ResetViewBounds.
# [00:53] <WeirdAl> I'm rarely that bored :p
# [00:53] <cpearce> Sorry, ResetWidgetBounds
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# [00:55] <tn> cpearce, i don't think root frames have content, and i don't think they are documents if they do
# [00:55] <tn> cpearce, go from the view to the frame to the presshell/context and get the doc from that
# [00:55] <cpearce> tn: those are always null, so you're probably right ;)
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# [00:58] <tn> cpearce, the code that you added in blocks that just checks assertions, i don't think its right because we haven't inserted the root view into the view manager hierarchy yet, so that document is disconnected still
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# [00:59] <cpearce> tn: right, that's left over from yesterday. The third block (line 118 of patch) is where I'm retrieving the rootViewParent. Is that block ok?
# [00:59] <tn> cpearce, in the crashing case rootViewParent has been destroyed, so the assertion at 116 doesn't make sense in that case
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# [01:00] <tn> cpearce, yeah, that should be the correct parent
# [01:00] <Waldo> bjacob: ping
# [01:00] <tn> cpearce, but subDocFrame can be null
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# [01:01] <tn> cpearce, because container->GetPrimaryFrame() can be null
# [01:01] <cpearce> tn: I was more using that to check that I was actually not still retrieving the stale pointer, though there's admitedly a chance that memory could be being reused for a new view.
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# [01:01] <tn> cpearce, ok, it makes it hard to reason when there is code that we know is wrong :)
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# [01:03] <cpearce> tn: heh, yeah, this is still my dirty, hacky, figuring out how stuff works, work in progress patch.
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# [01:05] <tn> cpearce, so 115 is the right rootViewParent if it does indeed exist, then you just need to find where in its child list to insert
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# [01:11] <NeilZZZ> mrbkap: I heard you like throwing exceptions so you threw an exception trying to throw an exception
# [01:11] <NeilZZZ> mrbkap: "Permission denied for <moz-safe-about:blank> to get property Function.caller"
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# [01:14] <darktrojan> pimp my exception?
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# [01:15] <@smaug> Cww: hey, one thing
# [01:16] <@smaug> are you almost out-of-memory?
# [01:16] <Cww> smaug: what's up?
# [01:16] <@smaug> when you do that private browsing thing
# [01:16] <Cww> smaug: sometimes?
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# [01:16] <@smaug> is it possible that we page fault a lot
# [01:16] <Cww> smaug: I'll keep an eye out.
# [01:16] <@smaug> Cww: could you check about:memory before and after entering private browsing
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# [01:17] <Cww> smaug: ok.
# [01:17] <@smaug> Cww: (not sure if it shows page faults on your OS)
# [01:17] <Cww> smaug: If I switch in and out of private browsing a lot, it doesn't happen... I think it needs to build up a problem and then when I switch it goes nuts.
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# [01:17] <Cww> so I'll browse for a few hours and get back to you.
# [01:17] <@smaug> Cww: yeah, makes sense
# [01:18] <@smaug> Cww: have you seen Bug 720512
# [01:18] <@smaug> Cww: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720512#c16 has link to tryserver. You might want to try those builds
# [01:19] <@smaug> if you have problems with gmail
# [01:19] <@smaug> though, mccr8 is still investigating the other problem he got
# [01:20] <mccr8> Cww: it could be a similar problem to the Gmail problem I'm having. It is leaking a huge number of nodes, but the CC doesn't traverse them, so the CC time stays fast.
# [01:20] <mccr8> the GC times get a little bad.
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# [01:20] <mccr8> but then when I close a tab, the CC times become horrible for a long time.
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# [01:20] <mccr8> switching into private mode closes all tabs, so it may induce a similar problem.
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# [01:20] <Cww> mccr8: that would make sense ... I have 2 gmail tabs and 4 other things that have the google bar.
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# [01:21] <mccr8> Cww: in my experience, with smaug's patch, the garbage still accumulates, but it is all freed at once when you close a tab, instead of lingering for a long time.
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# [01:23] <Callek> woa holy hell, somehow our make package is no longer crashing all of a sudden [SeaMonkey]
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# [01:24] <NeilZZZ> mrbkap: WinDbg doesn't really like a 1551-deep stack, but it looks like nsTextBoxFrame tried to QI an nsXULElement to an XBL-defined interface, and then when xpconnect tried to convert the JS object back to a C++ object it wanted to QI it to nsISupports, and that then blew up for some reason
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# [01:25] <Waldo> understandable
# [01:26] <NeilZZZ> oh, that's actually 0x1551 or so
# [01:26] <Cww> mccr8: ah, so that's why switching to private browsing gets super slow.
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# [01:31] <mccr8> Cww: Though hanging for four minutes is pretty phenomenal...
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# [01:33] <@smaug> mccr8: which is why I was thinking the machine must be swapping like ...
# [01:33] <@smaug> and page faulting and what not
# [01:33] <mccr8> smaug: yeah but it is weird it would be worse than shutting down. though maybe it takes 4 minutes for him to shut down too.
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# [01:34] <@smaug> I should run FF in a VM with very little memory
# [01:34] <@smaug> hmm
# [01:35] <@smaug> but this machine would be still too fast
# [01:35] <@smaug> some netbook
# [01:35] <@smaug> 512Ram and slow hd
# [01:35] <mccr8> smaug: yeah, gregor browses on a netbook to experience that kind of fun.
# [01:35] <@smaug> I was actually testing my friend's netbook and cc was about 15-20ms usually
# [01:36] <@smaug> (Nightly)
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# [01:37] <RyanVM> philor: I can't find a bug for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=9922859&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [01:38] <philor> RyanVM: aww, did you hit that? now you'll have to file it!
# [01:38] <RyanVM> NOOOOOOO
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# [01:38] <RyanVM> mwu hit it :P
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# [01:38] <philor> feel free to use my line about "This is not even remotely new, it has been going on for weeks now, but since nobody is responsible for filing weird randomorangepurple, nobody does."
# [01:39] <Cww> smaug: yeah, I get hangs so bad it script errors on shutdown
# [01:39] <philor> I don't have the slightest idea what product to file it under, and I've tried a few times to troll someone into making a guess, without success
# [01:39] <dholbert> "weird randomorangepurple" is a much more disturbing phrase, taken outside of the context of tbpl
# [01:40] <RyanVM> philor: you can't make me!
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# [01:40] <mak> philor: then must be Places, any bug is due to it.
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# [01:41] <philor> mak: no, it must be the cache, let's just unilaterally disable it globally!
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# [01:41] <mbrubeck> when in doubt, just file it in WebKit's bugzilla
# [01:41] <mak> philor: ah, yeah, sounds good!
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# [01:41] <philor> I can't believe you're going to do that
# [01:41] <@smaug> it must be XBL. let's back it out and blame hyatt
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# [01:43] <RyanVM> philor: I'm beginning to think that the Android issues on my push are real, though
# [01:43] <mak> smaug: if we backout XBL, there's no more way to talk about XBL2. it's a no go.
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# [01:44] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, looks likely to be real
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# [01:45] <philor> they do, they just don't have it build android-xul
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# [01:45] <RyanVM> cpeterson: ping
# [01:45] <RyanVM> i bet it's the breakpad patch
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# [01:45] <cpeterson> RyanVM, uh oh..?
# [01:46] <RyanVM> bustage on my push
# [01:46] <RyanVM> i'm wondering if it's the breakpad patch
# [01:46] <RyanVM> (es)
# [01:46] <mbrubeck> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5026c5ad25e7 also touches widget/android which is a warning sign...
# [01:46] <cpeterson> let me look.
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# [01:47] <mbrubeck> yeah, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5026c5ad25e7 looks like it needs a corresponding change in embedding/android
# [01:47] <mbrubeck> the breakpad changes are native-only, so they should be safe.
# [01:48] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, do you have a link to the try bustage? Was this a XUL problem?
# [01:48] <mbrubeck> RyanVM, cpeterson: I can back out 5026c5ad25e7
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# [01:48] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: Yeah, XUL Fennec looks to be crashing on startup.
# [01:48] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: this is on inbound, not try
# [01:48] <RyanVM> cpeterson: ^
# [01:48] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=19b7ccace430
# [01:48] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, please backout Do XUL and
# [01:48] <cpeterson> ^^^ back out 5026c5ad25e7
# [01:48] <mbrubeck> yes, they share widget/android
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# [01:49] <cpeterson> This will be a JNI crash in XUL from my change.
# [01:50] <mbrubeck> yup, we that pretty often. Should probably have less code duplicated between embedding/android and mobile/android/base
# [01:50] <mbrubeck> s/we/we get/
# [01:51] <RyanVM> so are we backing out or spot fixing?
# [01:51] <mbrubeck> RyanVM++ for always keeping such a close eye on inbound pushes
# [01:51] <cpeterson> If you will back out my change from m-i, I will investigate a fix for XUL Fennec.
# [01:51] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Backed out
# [01:51] <RyanVM> ok then
# [01:51] <cpeterson> Sorry for the firedrill! <:\
# [01:52] <RyanVM> not a prob
# [01:52] <RyanVM> that's what inbound's for
# [01:52] <RyanVM> better than m-c anyway :P
# [01:52] <mak> RyanVM++
# [01:53] <mak> and mbrubeck++ as well, srsly
# [01:53] <cpeterson> I'm fixing my try scripts to be sure XUL Fennec is always included...
# [01:53] <mbrubeck> Maybe we should just give XUL fennec its own copy of /widget/android ...
# [01:54] <cpeterson> what is XUL Fennec's life expectancy?
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# [01:55] <mbrubeck> The front-end (/mobile/xul) will live on after we stop shipping it, because the MeeGo community is still using it
# [01:55] <mbrubeck> but the Android back-end (/embedding/android) will probably be EOL later this year when we develop the native tablet UI.
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# [02:51] <bholley> who reviews maintains places? mak?
# [02:51] <bholley> er
# [02:51] <bholley> reviews/maintains
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# [02:55] <@dolske> yup
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# [02:58] <@dolske> philor: what happens when an assert is triggered on an XP debug build? can it ever pop-up a dialog?
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# [03:15] <philor> dolske: don't think so, that's not an NS_ASSERTION behavior, is it?
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# [03:16] <@dolske> I just remember it being the annoying default that one often had to fiddle with XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK
# [03:16] <philor> the env spew at the start of the buildstep says XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK=warn, so it should just ring the bell and print to stderr
# [03:16] <@dolske> but I think it's unrelated here, there are other earlier asserts
# [03:17] <philor> "bug nnn: please give dolske access to a WinXP test slave"
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# [03:18] <Waldo> anyone know offhand if this warning's been reported as a bug? seems pretty clearly wrong http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1509685
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# [03:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c2d1c97a8a2f - Vicamo Yang - Bug 733981 - Part 2: Early return may ignore the optimum SMS length. r=philikon DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [03:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/db2954a4c62f - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 734181 - [B2G] SMS database: filter with `endDate` but no `startDate` parameter throws an exception. r=philikon
# [03:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f20ede6f964a - Vicamo Yang - Bug 733981 - Part 1: Fix mis-calculated userDataLength. r=philikon
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# [03:46] <firebot> Check-in:
# [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/26f18d41a88a - Smokey Ardisson - Bug 656990 - Ensure compatibility with OS X 10.7's arrowless scrollbar. Original patch by Steven Michaud <smichaud@pobox.com>, r=mstange; backported by smorgan and me.
# [03:46] <firebot> a=smorgan,me for Camino 2.1 series.
# [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/7e57b6f4d41b - Gavin Sharp - Bug 723808 followup: fix shared builds by avoiding use of nsContentUtils::IsSystemPrincipal, r=bz, a=bustage
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# [04:34] <cpearce> tn: how's about this: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/65d9e9a5f1c5 it fixes the crash. For some reason in the crashing case newRootView is already a child of rootViewParent when we come to insert it, so I need to guard against that case. Not sure why.
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# [04:36] <tn> cpearce, we could have done the reconstruct part of the "destroy and reconstruct" cycle
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# [04:37] <cadecairos> cpearce: ping
# [04:37] <cpearce> cadecairos: 'sup!
# [04:37] <mattwoodrow> froydnj: pong
# [04:37] <cadecairos> hey
# [04:38] <cadecairos> so I beleive those reftest failures are happening because I created tow images, and my patch didn't include the files >.<
# [04:39] <cpearce> d'oh!
# [04:39] <cpearce> cadecairos: you know how to add them to your patch?
# [04:39] <cadecairos> I've been using mozilla-central on github, so when I generate my patch, it's excluding binary files
# [04:39] <cadecairos> not sure how to include them, no
# [04:40] <cpearce> I don't know how to do it on mozilla-central on github.
# [04:41] <cpearce> using mercurial you could just `hg add path/to/image/; hg qref`
# [04:41] <mwu> cadecairos: how are you generating patches?
# [04:41] <tn> cpearce, that looks good but i want to understand more fully why you need to guard against that
# [04:42] <mwu> and when you commit, how did you apply/commit the patches?
# [04:42] <nattokirai> sorry about the linux bustage on inbound, fixing now...
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# [04:43] <cpearce> tn: I guess a call stack at the point where newRootView is inserted is in order...
# [04:43] <cadecairos> mwu: show --format=\"From: %an %n%s%n%b\" -U8 then pipe it into a file
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# [04:44] <mwu> hm that's probably ok
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# [04:45] <mwu> cadecairos: is that after you commit?
# [04:46] <cadecairos> yes
# [04:46] <mwu> and you git added the binary files during the commit?
# [04:46] <cadecairos> all my changes are in the one commit, even the new files
# [04:46] <tn> cpearce, yeah, that would be helpful
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# [04:47] <mwu> because there shouldn't be a problem with having binaries in an exported patch
# [04:47] <mwu> you just have to remember not to use patch to apply them
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# [04:47] <cadecairos> mwu: apply them to what?
# [04:48] <mwu> the hg tree m-i/m-c
# [04:49] <cadecairos> hmm I never apply them to hg, just put the patch I generate up on bugzilla
# [04:50] <mwu> it should have the binary files then.. the diff viewer won't show it but it should be there
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# [04:53] <cadecairos> When I took a look at the failing reftests using the viewer tool on TBPL, I noticed that all of the ref images that were supposed to use new files had just used the alt value ( which is "poster" )
# [04:53] <cadecairos> led me to think that the ref images weren't there
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# [04:54] <mwu> well, easy to check at least
# [04:56] <cpearce> cadecairos: they aren't there.
# [04:56] <cpearce> cadecairos: I can't see them in the patch.
# [04:56] <cadecairos> yeah, I was just taking a look, definitely not there
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# [05:04] <cadecairos> cpearce: i need to add a --binary ...derp
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# [05:06] <cadecairos> awesome, it works
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# [05:21] <heycam> ehsan_ or mats, ping
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# [05:32] <froydnj> mattwoodrow: was just wondering if you can take a look at my 603350 patch soon
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# [05:44] <mattwoodrow> froydnj: sorry, will look at it now
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# [05:59] <mattwoodrow> anyone around that knows how -moz-appearance native theming of forms works?
# [05:59] <mattwoodrow> in particular, is there a way to get osx 10.6 theme on 10.7
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# [06:02] <hub> karl: you want me to attach a new patch following your r+ with comments?
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# [06:03] <hub> karl: or shall I just commit?
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# [06:04] <philor> nattokirai: you're busted on 10.5
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# [06:05] <nattokirai> yes, i'm going to land a patch to disable those reftests
# [06:05] <nattokirai> momentarily
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# [06:06] <philor> http://webkitmemes.tumblr.com/post/18535937403/fbf-keeps-it-green :)
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# [06:06] <nattokirai> heh
# [06:07] <nattokirai> philor: the test fails for me on nightly with my set of fonts on 10.5
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# [06:21] * nattokirai wonders why the heck we have tests for phoenician in our reftests... (u+10900:109ff)
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# [06:27] <philor> I hear we're going to add it as a localization, as soon as we can handle a mix of rtl and rtl, ltr, rtl, ltr, rtl
# [06:27] <philor> across CSS columns
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# [06:28] <JonathanS> wheee!
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# [06:34] <jtcranmer> can we do ttb and btt?
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# [07:02] <nattokirai> yeah, btt is required for the highly popular ogham
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# [07:07] <ekw> I ran mochitest on a patch to a bug I'm working on (Bug 724841) and it passed. Can someone push to try for me? This is my first bug and I don't have any access.
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# [07:12] <jdm> ekw: sure
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# [07:14] <ekw> jdm: thanks. what exactly is going to happen? you push to try and the results will appear on the bug?
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# [07:14] <jdm> ekw: more or less, yes. you will see shortly.
# [07:15] <philor> more like "bogus results will appear in the bug, with a link to confusing but non-bogus information on tbpl.m.o"
# [07:15] <jdm> now philor, don't scare off the new folks
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# [07:16] <philor> jdm: dude, you're about to get a comment added to his bug saying "47 jobs FAILED", who's the scary one?
# [07:16] <jdm> D:
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# [07:16] <philor> the spectre of Jetpack and debug 10.7 is with us always
# [07:16] <ekw> lol. i don't know what's going on, but it's interesting!
# [07:17] <ekw> "Insufficient permissions to push to try"
# [07:17] <jdm> oh foo
# [07:17] <jdm> I thought they made the change that a patch with feedback+ could be autolanded
# [07:17] <jdm> oh well, let's do it live
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# [07:19] <philor> the simplest and most reasonable way to push to try is to trigger all the tests on all the platforms, which would be cool except that there are platforms like OS X 10.7 debug where most of the test suites fail, and tests like Jetpack and Peptest which pretty much always fail everywhere, so they are hidden on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ but the comment that the tryserver adds to your bug includes those failure in the total number of things that we
# [07:19] <philor> wrong
# [07:19] <philor> so, bogus results, but once you learn how to interpret tbpl, a link to confusing but non-bogus information
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# [07:21] <jdm> the --post-to-bugzilla syntax in trychooesr lines always weird me out
# [07:21] <jdm> it is so unlike anything else ever
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# [07:23] <philor> yep
# [07:23] <jdm> ekw: the results from the try server will be posted to the bug when all the jobs complete, and you can follow along play-by-play at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d2f40a675b89
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# [07:25] <ekw> jdm: cool, thanks!
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# [07:36] <@dbaron> nattokirai, I'm curious about the scale you're using to measure popularity...
# [07:36] <nattokirai> 1/x ;P
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# [07:45] <smontagu> I was assuming nattokirai was talking through a time warp
# [07:45] <smontagu> from about 15 centuries ago
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# [08:00] <Callek> ...opinion of the 30-40 aurora approved patches not marked fixed, does anyone suspect that "if the patch applies cleanly" the authors would mind a 3rd party person checking in for them?
# [08:00] * Callek gut tells me "not mind at all" but I wanted a quick moment for any dissention
# [08:01] <Callek> (note I don't plan on checking in EVERY patch in one push, that would just be insane)
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# [08:02] <Asa> Callek: I presume "not mind at all" and more likely even "Would appreciate it"
# [08:02] <Callek> Asa: sounds good :-)
# [08:02] <Callek> I'm hoping to [help] cut the list down quite a bit, so we don't have stray aurora-approvals come tuesday
# [08:02] <Callek> since that just muddies up the water for the next train
# [08:02] <kbrosnan> Callek: just fyi if there are any Fennec Native you can ignore those
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# [08:03] <Callek> kbrosnan: I was told by akeybl a few days ago that Fennec Native for 12 was undecided for now, so to leave the aurora approval grants alone, but not to bother checking them in ;-)
# [08:03] <Callek> (I cleared remaining beta approvals on Fennec Native per him as well)
# [08:03] <Callek> kbrosnan: but thanks for the heads up
# [08:03] <kbrosnan> yeah that is right
# [08:04] <kbrosnan> was not sure if you were up to speed
# [08:04] <Callek> sure, better to be safe than sorry as well there :-)
# [08:04] <kbrosnan> well fennec native 12 is a non-starter
# [08:04] <kbrosnan> so wasted effort atm
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# [08:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/151a006fd5d1 - Tim Taubert - Bug 722273 - [New Tab Page] clear internal links cache on 'browser:purge-session-history'; r=dietrich
# [08:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cef966930777 - Dave Camp - Bug 719916 - Rule view loses focus after entering attribute name. r=jwalker
# [08:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85ba09eada58 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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# [08:24] <karl> hub: just commit if you've addressed the review comments
# [08:24] <karl> thanks
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# [08:29] <hub> karl: ok, thanks.
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# [08:44] <Callek> ...heh so after trudging through all those bugs with approval+ but not marked fixed, some of them were approvals of backouts of other bugs on new bugs that are still open, others were wrongly not set to fixed, among a few other weird cases
# [08:44] <Callek> which leaves me with (afaict) only 3 aurora things to land
# [08:45] <Callek> O well
# [08:46] <Callek> I do have to say, people need to get better at listed a cset when they land *and* status-Firefox-N:fixed when they land on a branch.
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# [09:43] <NeilZZZ> mattwoodrow: -moz-appearance generally just asks the OS to paint, so you're unlikely to be able to get the appearance of a different OS or OS version
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# [09:56] <ehoogeveen> Does anyone know why "const char* str2 = str2;" even compiles (C++)? str2 isn't shadowing another variable or anything, and I don't see how something like this could possibly be useful.. It might throw a warning, I'd have to check, but still
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# [10:01] <hsivonen_> it's one of those days when being able to step backwards from a breakpoint would be awesome
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# [10:41] <dougt> hsivonen_: msvc did that.
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# [11:04] <jfkthame> anyone know if hfiguiere is on irc?
# [11:04] <jaws|away> msvc still does that ;)
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# [11:07] <Ms2ger> !seen hub
# [11:07] <firebot> hub was last seen 2 hours, 37 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying 'karl: ok, thanks.' in #developers.
# [11:07] <Ms2ger> jfkthame, apparently not
# [11:07] <jfkthame> thx - care to back him out, or shall i?
# [11:09] <Ms2ger> Go ahead
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# [11:17] <mak> oh good, I was about to, but will let you do that
# [11:17] <jfkthame> just pushed it
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# [11:39] <heeen> http://heeen.de/tests/foo.html
# [11:39] <heeen> can someone explain this to me?
# [11:40] <heeen> and how to prevent it
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# [11:40] <heeen> ios webkit, qt webkit and fennec all do this
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# [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/89d3250b701d - Dão Gottwald - No bug - reduce MAX_LEAK_COUNT to match the status quo
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# [11:52] <KaiRo> man, people surely know what they are talking about - "For the longest time, Firefox was my go to website. I praised over all others and have used it as the primary on my Mac at work and my Windows 8 at home." (for a webmaster@m.o email)
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# [11:55] <hsivonen_> KaiRo: is webmaster@m.o all user feedback in practice?
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# [11:57] <KaiRo> hsivonen_: mostly misdirected user support requests/feedback, sometimes feedback on actual website problems as well, though
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# [12:25] <Ms2ger> mak!
# [12:25] <Ms2ger> WARNING: The SQL statement 'INSERT OR IGNORE INTO moz_hosts (host, frecency) SELECT fixup_url(get_unreversed_host(h.rev_host)) AS host, (SELECT MAX(frecency) FROM moz_places WHERE rev_host = get_unreversed_host(host || '.') || '.' OR rev_host = get_unreversed_host(host || '.') || '.www.') ) AS frecency FROM moz_places h WHERE LENGTH(h.rev_host) > 1 GROUP BY h.rev_host' could not be compiled due to an error: near ")": syntax error:
# [12:25] <Ms2ger> file /storage/src/mozStorageConnection.cpp, line 956
# [12:26] <mak> uh?
# [12:26] <mak> where did you see that?
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# [12:26] <mattwoodrow> :q
# [12:27] <mak> sounds quite bad
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# [12:29] <Ms2ger> Always when I use my testing profile
# [12:29] <Ms2ger> Also
# [12:29] <Ms2ger> JavaScript error: http://www.mozilla.org/org/script/1.0/jquery-ui-1.7.2.custom.min.js, line 10: jQuery is not defined
# [12:30] <mak> that thing is quite bad, likely a blocker
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# [12:33] <mak> though, I wonder how can the test pass with such a thing
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# [12:35] <mak> ah, I know that. will file a bug and fix after lunch
# [12:35] <mak> damn
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# [12:36] <Ms2ger> Buon appetito
# [12:36] <mak|afk> grazie!
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# [12:43] <darktrojan> is it me or does facebook put a really horrible colour profile on pictures?
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# [12:47] <bharath> mcmanus:Hello , I want to apply for GSoC this year ,can you tell me about the project "Networking DashBoard"
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# [13:03] <Archaeopteryx> bharath: mcmanus is the guy you want to talk to
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# [13:05] <Archaeopteryx> you can write him a mail: pmcmanus at mozilla.com
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# [13:15] <Standard8> dRdR: am I right in thinking that bug 711656 is only really affecting the acceleration blocklist, i.e. there won't be any affect if hardware acceleration is disabled?
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# [13:20] <NeilAway> if a test only fails when run under the harness, how can I find out which check failed?
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# [13:32] <NeilAway> bah, test passes when I turn on logging
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# [13:50] <Ms2ger> mak, ta
# [13:51] <mak> thanks for reporting the error, often people hits warnings or assertions and don't report them :)
# [13:51] <mak> this is quite important
# [13:51] <mak> (indeed I thought we had a specific test for it, looks like it doesn't work)
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# [13:55] <@smaug> dao: you might know. Is there an easy way to open a blank tab next to current one
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# [13:56] <dao> smaug: programmatically, yes. manually, no
# [13:56] <@smaug> I was asking the latter
# [13:56] <@smaug> but ok
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# [13:58] <cers> if I wanted to run only test js/src/jit-test/tests/basic/bug691797-regexp-1.js , how would I do that?
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# [14:28] <cers> luke: ping
# [14:29] <bhearsum> jesup: don't suppose you're around?
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# [14:31] <KaiRo> wow, now if I was an uninformed person, I would think "WTF?" - I'm going into the Android Market on my tablet to fetch K-9 mail (open source) as it has been recommended by other Mozillians, and the market tells me "By using Google Play, you agree to the Google Play Terms of Service. [Decline][Accept]" - they could at least tell me that the Android Market was renamed to the Google Play Market or was intergrated into Google Play or su
# [14:31] <KaiRo> ch.
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# [14:32] <cers> KaiRo: I was a bit confused about a lot of "Play" apps I suddenly had installed too
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# [14:40] <NeilAway> who tests the tests?
# [14:41] <froydnj> elves
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# [14:43] <Ms2ger> You
# [14:44] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: sadly, in this case, yes :-(
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# [14:45] <Ms2ger> Mwuahahahahaha
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# [15:31] <mounir> Ms2ger: so you don't want to look at -1.html test?
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> I looked, just fix it
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> I trust you can do it ;)
# [15:32] <mounir> Ms2ger: I don't feel confortable with you trusting me
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# [15:33] <mounir> it might mean bad things will happen
# [15:33] <Ms2ger> And I can blame you for them :)
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# [15:38] <dRdR> Standard8: well, acceleration features are the only ones on the blocklist, unless you count webgl, so yes
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# [15:52] <ewong> anyone here know how the buildconfig information is filled in? particularly the configure arguments? I know the form itself is in buildconfig.html.. how how are those values filled in?
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# [15:52] <ewong> the @ac_configure_args@ is filled in by something.. but I don't know what
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> Black magic
# [15:54] <Ms2ger> Australis?
# [15:54] <ewong> Australis?
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# [15:56] <jesup> bhearsum: I'm here now (kids and in-laws with stomach flu) :-(
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# [15:56] <bhearsum> jesup: hey, i was just wondering which machines we need the updated libasound on - just build machines? or test machines too?
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# [16:00] <jesup> Just build machines for now. Once we start adding webrtc tests, we'll need it on test machines as well (which brings up the question of "why do we test only on horribly-out machines"? -- I assume it's only; we really should test on winxp, vista, win7 (and x64), all up to date (or not horribly out-of-date) on patches, all recent mac builds in use, etc))
# [16:00] <jesup> But that's another question... ;-)
# [16:01] <Ms2ger> Vista?
# [16:01] <Ms2ger> We don't have any Vista, do we?
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# [16:02] <jesup> more than we have linux i believe; maybe more than mac
# [16:02] <Ms2ger> Oh, users?
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# [16:06] <jesup> bhearsum: I believe (since libasound2 is dynamically-loaded by webrtc) that it will simply fail to initialize webrtc if the version is too old, as if the lib wasn't there. But I don't have an old enough machine to test (and no test ready). The primary issue to to unblock automatic builds; ALSA added 3 or so entrypoints in 1.0.14 that webrtc wants to see (per the bug)
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# [16:07] <jesup> Ms2ger: Yes, those invisible people we build the browser for :-) ~90+% of whom run Windows in one form or another
# [16:08] <mounir> jlebar: ping
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# [16:09] <bhearsum> jesup: OK, won't that cause test failures, though?
# [16:10] <jesup> per above, once we start writing WebRTC tests it will, yes. So we will want it on the test machines (if it's not there now), but that's not needed today. If we can get both now, all the better and nothing to worry about later!
# [16:11] <jesup> Hmmm.. s/horribly-out machines/horribly-out-of-date machines/ @9:49
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# [16:15] <ewong> ok.. buildconfig.html is preprocessed..
# [16:15] <mak> Ms2ger: ahah, you know why the test didn't catch that wrong query? the test query has a syntax too!
# [16:15] <mounir> Ms2ger: are you the guy that made irc.mozilla.org forwarding my pings to /dev/null? :(
# [16:15] <Ms2ger> \o/
# [16:15] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [16:15] <ewong> but what preprocesses it?
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# [16:40] <romaxa> mounir: did you want something from me yesterday?
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# [16:41] <Ms2ger> romaxa, something about packaging the js shell on qt builds
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# [16:41] <mounir> Ms2ger: you are promoted as my new personal assistant
# [16:41] <mounir> congrats
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# [16:42] <Ms2ger> Yw
# [16:42] <froydnj> minions++
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# [16:45] <romaxa> Ms2ger: :) ok so what was that about js shell in qt builds? ;)
# [16:46] <Ms2ger> Whether to package it
# [16:47] <romaxa> Ms2ger: it is not packaged currently
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> Indeed
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> It isn't anywhere
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> That's mounir's job
# [16:47] <gabor> khuey: ping
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# [16:48] <romaxa> Ms2ger: mounir ? or his other assistant? :)
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# [16:49] <@khuey> gabor: hi
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# [16:50] <gabor> khuey: hey there, so I filed a patch for bug 733035, do you know anyone I should ask for a review? I assigned it to you but let me know if you would like someone else to do that
# [16:51] <gabor> I have no clue who owns this code to be honest...
# [16:51] <Ms2ger> You do now
# [16:51] <@khuey> gabor: I can review it ... I just have others to do first
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# [16:52] <Ms2ger> gabor, JSObject*\nnsGlobalWindow::CallerGlobal()
# [16:52] <gabor> khuey: that's not an issue I have other stuff to do...
# [16:52] <jlebar> mounir, hey
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> And } else {
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# [16:54] <@khuey> gabor: good ;-)
# [16:54] <gabor> Ms2ger: right... let me see
# [16:54] <mounir> jlebar: did I already talked with you about <iframe mozbrowser> VS <browser>?
# [16:55] <jlebar> mounir, I think you wanted <browser> -- that's all I remember.
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# [16:55] <jlebar> mounir, What about for apps?
# [16:55] <mounir> jlebar: what do you mean?
# [16:55] <jlebar> mounir, What do you want the tag for an app to be? <app>?
# [16:56] <jlebar> mounir, I'm pretty sure we want to eventually distinguish apps from browsers.
# [16:56] <mounir> jlebar: apps are simple iframes, right? we don't have special apis for them
# [16:56] <jlebar> Maybe an app will be an <iframe sandbox>.
# [16:56] <jlebar> mounir, Apps cannot be simple iframes.
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# [16:56] <jlebar> Then if an app does something dumb, it can escape its iframe and take over all of Gaia.
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# [16:57] <gabor> Ms2ger: I get the first one but what about the else and where?
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# [16:57] <Ms2ger> s/}\nelse {/} else {/g
# [16:58] <mounir> jlebar: if <iframe sandbox> works, that would be okay
# [16:58] <jlebar> mounir, I'm not sure, but we could probably make that work.
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# [16:58] <mounir> jlebar: but we can stay focused on browser
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# [16:58] <jlebar> mounir, Well, so you want <browser> but for apps, you want <iframe sandbox>?
# [16:58] <mounir> I think using the iframe element is going to make the element quite complex
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# [16:59] <mounir> jlebar: I think those are two different problems
# [16:59] <jlebar> mounir, The complexity has to live somewhere...
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# [17:00] <jlebar> mounir, But I don't have a preference between <iframe mozbrowser> and <mozbrowser>.
# [17:00] <mounir> jlebar: yes, but better to make it live in a separate element
# [17:00] <mounir> unless we really need most of the current iframe properties
# [17:00] <@roc> wouldn't an app just be an <iframe> with a different origin?
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# [17:00] <gabor> Ms2ger: yeah true... the file is not particularly consistent about it but there are more '} else {' 's
# [17:00] <jlebar> roc, An app shouldn't be able to framebust.
# [17:00] <mounir> vingtetun: ^
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# [17:01] <@roc> is that all?
# [17:01] <jlebar> roc, We probably also need other sandboxing things, like history isolation.
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# [17:01] <@roc> ok
# [17:01] <@roc> so you do need <iframe mozbrowser>
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# [17:01] <@roc> <iframe sandbox> doesn't sound like the right thing
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# [17:01] <jlebar> roc, A browser, separate from an app, has a bunch of other things going on.
# [17:01] <@roc> e.g. I think <iframe sandbox> with scripts enabled allows framebusting
# [17:02] <mounir> roc: I don't think we want <iframe mozbrowser> for regular apps
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# [17:02] <@smaug> is roc back from holiday ?
# [17:02] <jlebar> roc, Because it sends events up to the parent window when things change, like when the location changes, or the title changes, etc.
# [17:02] <@roc> no
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# [17:03] <@roc> jlebar: but the app container could trivially ignore all that. You just want to skip it for performance reasons?
# [17:03] <jlebar> roc, You're correct -- we could use <browser> or <iframe mozbrowser> for apps. I don't know what the perf characteristics will be, but I doubt they'll matter.
# [17:03] <@roc> (don't know why, since I assume apps won't change their titles or locations much)
# [17:04] <jlebar> roc, And doing so would let us do things like read the favicon, which we may want to do.
# [17:04] <@roc> smaug: do you need something?
# [17:04] <jlebar> roc, Of course, if we call it <browser>, we're probably not going to use it for an app. :)
# [17:05] <@smaug> roc: nope
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# [17:05] <@smaug> I was just wondering
# [17:05] <GPHemsley> gavin: ping
# [17:05] <@smaug> roc: have a nice holiday :)
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# [17:06] <@smaug> (and actually yes, /me needs time)
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# [17:09] <cers> if I wanted to run only test js/src/jit-test/tests/basic/bug691797-regexp-1.js , how would I do that?
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# [17:12] <mounir> jlebar: so, the only reason to use <iframe mozbrowser> for apps is to prevent frame busting
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# [17:12] <mounir> we could probably solve that problem another way
# [17:13] <jlebar> mounir, And history isolation.
# [17:13] <mounir> (i thought sandbox was here for that actually, but I guess I'm wrong)
# [17:13] <jlebar> which is an existing attribute on <iframe sandbox>
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# [17:14] <jlebar> mounir, And maybe <iframe mozbrowser> for apps because we might want to read the favicon or something.
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# [17:14] <jlebar> mounir, Or tell whether it's an SSL page
# [17:15] <jlebar> mounir, Or even read the title.
# [17:15] <jlebar> for the app switcher?
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# [17:16] <mounir> jlebar: I'm not as deeply involved in all of that as you are but that seems weird from where I am that we need the same things for apps and browser
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# [17:17] <jlebar> mounir, They are going to be similar. The difference, if there is one, is that browser will expose more things than app.
# [17:17] <jlebar> mounir, Note too that we might run apps in a separate process, which makes them unlike normal iframes.
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# [17:20] <mounir> roc, jlebar: so you say that <iframe sandbox> can do frame busting with scripts?
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# [17:20] <mounir> from what I read in the specs, seems like allow-scripts and allow-same-origin is required
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# [17:21] <@roc> actually allow-top-navigation controls that
# [17:21] <@roc> I was wrong
# [17:21] <jlebar> roc, OTOH with disallow top navigation, the iframe content can still tell that it's inside a frame.
# [17:21] <jlebar> For purposes of e.g. the Facebook app, we needed to make it think it was not framed.
# [17:21] <Ms2ger> smontagu--
# [17:22] <Ms2ger> Adding PRBools in 2012? Srsly?
# [17:22] <jlebar> It would try to framebust, and if it failed, it would display a white page.
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# [17:23] <@smaug> Ms2ger: hey, if you've used PRBools a decade, it isn't that easy to switch to use bools
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# [17:23] <Ms2ger> Man, you must be old :)
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# [17:27] <Ms2ger> jrmuizel, backout please
# [17:27] <jrmuizel> Ms2ger: trying to
# [17:27] <Ms2ger> Ta
# [17:28] <GPHemsley> bsmedberg: When you've got a moment, I'd like to discuss bug 525494 and what needs to be done to get it started. (If it requires C++, which it seems to, I'm probably gonna need a lot of help. :) )
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# [17:30] <bhearsum> jesup: thanks for the info re: test machines - i'll update the bug
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# [17:34] <@bsmedberg> GPHemsley: the bug seems pretty detailed, and I definitely think you want to write the matching code in JS
# [17:34] <@bsmedberg> and just shim it to the chrome registry
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# [17:35] <GPHemsley> bsmedberg: Ah, that would make things easier. Though I thought there was concern about too many calls in between?
# [17:36] <@bsmedberg> GPHemsley: at least for the chrome registry I think we call this very seldom so it shouldn't be an issue
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# [17:36] <@bsmedberg> I don't think anyone else should really be calling this in tight loops either
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# [17:42] <glandium> mounir: pong
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# [17:44] <mounir> glandium: I have to set js shell packaging variable to be read in config/autoconf.mk, where should that be done? would that work from mozconfig or should it be set somewhere else?
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# [17:45] <luke> cers: pong
# [17:45] <glandium> mounir: just put an AC_SUBST in configure.in, put the variable in config/autoconf.mk, and then setting it in mozconfig will do the right thing. (so you need all three)
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# [17:46] <mounir> glandium: will do that
# [17:46] <mounir> thanks
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# [17:48] <cers> luke: hey - regarding bug 691797 you say that the test js/src/jit-test/tests/basic/bug691797-regexp-1.js fails - but (though I haven't actually figured out how to run that test in the test framework) when I run the code in it in scratchpad in a version with StartsWithGreedyStar enabled, it doesn't seem to fail
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# [17:51] <luke> cers: hm, maybe i got the wrong test, let me look
# [17:51] <luke> cers: ah, yes, i did, let me find the right one
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# [17:53] <luke> cers: hah, i see, it was jit-test/tests/basic/bug691797-2.js. emphasis on the 2 :)
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# [17:54] <luke> cers: basically, even when you do a RegExp.prototype.test, the RegExp statics (RegExp.$1 etc) still reveal which match you made (in the case of multiple)
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# [17:55] <luke> cers: v8 sees this and, if 'test' returns true, they apparently then run 'exec'. (no surprise, for the benchmark in question, the result is usually 'false')
# [17:56] <luke> err, not 'exec', but 'test' on the original source
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# [17:58] <hurley> c++ question - if i have a function inlined in a class declaration that does nothing other than return a value, is that function guaranteed to run atmoically on all our supported platforms?
# [17:58] <hurley> for example: class A { public: foo() { return some_member } };
# [17:59] <Ms2ger> roc, reviews on holiday? :)
# [18:00] <froydnj> hurley: define "atomically"
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# [18:01] <hurley> froydnj: basically, i want to make sure i'm going to get a consistent view of some_member within that function, but if it changes before or after the function runs, i don't care
# [18:01] <hurley> i presume that, for that definition of "atomic", the function *is*, but i want to be sure before i go screwing things up :)
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# [18:02] <@khuey> that depends on the type of some_member
# [18:02] <hurley> i should possibly note, in this case, some_member is word-sized or smaller type
# [18:02] <cers> luke: I see - so should it not be storing the match in the static RegExp when using test, or?
# [18:02] <froydnj> then you're OK
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# [18:02] <froydnj> (on all the platforms we care about, anyway)
# [18:02] <hurley> awesome, thanks
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# [18:03] <cers> luke: or what is expected behavior exactly?
# [18:03] <logiclord> Hi, I am intesrted in some of the gsoc projects at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode12. Can someone guide me to appropriate procedure to go for them... like bugfixes to illustrate familarity with platforms.. thanks
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# [18:04] <luke> cers: when you run re.test(str), RegExp.$1 et al should be correct
# [18:04] <luke> when .* is stripped from str, it causes a different match to be found, so $1 is incorrect
# [18:05] <Ms2ger> Bah, $1
# [18:05] <luke> Ms2ger: indeed
# [18:05] <Ms2ger> Let's kill it
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# [18:06] <@smaug> logiclord: gerv knows about GSoC
# [18:06] <gerv> How can I help? :-)
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# [18:07] <gerv> logiclord: It's great if you want to get involved with Mozilla in advance as a way of demonstrating commitment to the project in general and to a particular idea.
# [18:07] <@roc> Ms2ger: for you? sure
# [18:07] <gerv> I would suggest looking through the list for projects which you think fit your skills,
# [18:07] <mbrubeck> Enn: Orange on inbound; backing out...
# [18:07] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [18:07] <Ms2ger> No, I just noticed you did some
# [18:07] <gerv> and then contacting the person listed as the mentor to ask them how you could best ramp up for, and prepare for, an application for their project.
# [18:07] <gerv> I'm sure they'd be happy to help.
# [18:07] <logiclord> gerv how do i demonstrate my commitment ? I have some doubt regarding projects as well ?
# [18:07] <gerv> If you have trouble contacting them (search for their name or handle in www.mozillians.org) then ask me.
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> Anybody know if bz is going to be online from sxsw?
# [18:08] <gerv> (gerv@mozilla.org)
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# [18:08] <@khuey> Ms2ger: he's been active in bugzilla
# [18:08] <luke> cers: you can see the v8 impl of test (in JS!) in src/regexp.js : RegExpTest
# [18:08] <gerv> logiclord: Can you explain a bit more about what you mean? I'm not sure I quite understand you.
# [18:08] <NeilAway> do we have special powers for accessing components from tests, or are we still using enablePrivilege?
# [18:08] * Ms2ger kicks try
# [18:09] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, sure, SpecialPowers.wrap(Components)
# [18:09] <Ms2ger> Ask ted
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# [18:10] <cers> luke: ok - running out of battery here, but I'll take a look when I get home
# [18:10] <logiclord> gerv I was also involved in gsoc last year and most common way to understand a platform is minor bug fixes.. so i was wondering how to get started before I could contact mentor directly
# [18:11] <luke> cers: sweet, not having that opt is slaughtering us on that one peacekeeper test...
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> You could always fix bug 734023 for me
# [18:11] <cers> luke: indeed it is
# [18:11] <gerv> logiclord: It's fine to contact the mentor now; they might be able to point you at good minor bug fixes.
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# [18:11] <gerv> But if you don't want to do that,
# [18:11] <gerv> then:
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> Aww, Pokemon is NP-hard
# [18:12] <gerv> see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Hacking_Firefox , particularly the section titled "Finding what to work on"
# [18:12] <gerv> and the bit about "good first bug".
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# [18:12] <gerv> Also, you will get put in touch with a code mentore
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# [18:12] <luke> Ms2ger: NP-Chariz-hard?
# [18:12] <gerv> *mentor
# [18:12] <gerv> if you fill in the form here:
# [18:12] <gerv> v
# [18:12] <gerv> http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/
# [18:12] <Ms2ger> luke, I see what you did there
# [18:12] <gerv> Welcome to Mozilla! :-)
# [18:12] <logiclord> thanks
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# [18:13] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: great :-)
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# [18:14] <JonathanS> luke, im sure you saw the article in slashdot
# [18:14] <luke> JonathanS: ?
# [18:15] <luke> oh, i see
# [18:15] <JonathanS> luke http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/03/09/1531219/classic-nintendo-games-are-np-hard
# [18:16] <JonathanS> Msger, NP-Hard make game more addicting. :)
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# [18:18] <jdm> gerv: ps, the person that responds to that form is me :)
# [18:19] <jdm> gerv: also, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction is a much better resource than Hacking_Firefox these days
# [18:19] <gerv> OK, thanks.
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# [18:19] <gerv> That URL was the result of a Google.
# [18:19] <gerv> logiclord: ^^^
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# [18:20] <jdm> gerv: what did you search for? I'm attempting to streamline the various ways people find their way to these documents
# [18:20] <jdm> actually, this isn't a terrible page
# [18:20] <gerv> I searched for "mozilla good first bug"
# [18:20] <jdm> interesting...
# [18:20] <gerv> because I was looking for a page which documented the "good first bug" stuff.
# [18:21] <gerv> jdm: re: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction
# [18:21] * mbrubeck looks for how to do a redirect on MDN
# [18:21] <gerv> Step 3 seems entirely random.
# [18:21] <gerv> Firstly, running Firefox under a debugger is non-trivial,
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# [18:21] <gerv> and no link is given to instructions on how to do so.
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# [18:21] <jdm> yeah, I'm going to take that suggestion out
# [18:22] <gerv> Then, what are you supposed to do after doing it?
# [18:22] <logiclord> moreover I was not able to find gsoc Mozilla page from "gsoc mozilla" in google
# [18:22] <logiclord> *2012 page
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# [18:22] <gerv> logiclord: Thanks for the tip.
# [18:22] <gerv> I can add a link to the historical pages pointing at the root page,
# [18:23] <gerv> from where the 2012 set is linked.
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# [18:25] <mbrubeck> gerv, logiclord: I recently created https://wiki.mozilla.org/GSoC
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# [18:25] <gerv> mbrubeck: Why? :-)
# [18:25] <gerv> We have:
# [18:25] <gerv> https://wiki.mozilla.org/SummerOfCode
# [18:25] <mbrubeck> gerv: Because I could never remember or find the other URL...
# [18:25] <gerv> :-)
# [18:25] <mbrubeck> gerv: I'll have the former redirect to the latter
# [18:26] <gerv> You took the words right out of my, er, fingers.
# [18:26] <gerv> Thanks :-)
# [18:26] <mbrubeck> gerv: And maybe we should move the yearly pages to be real sub-pages of the parent page
# [18:26] <mbrubeck> then they will get breadcrumb navigation automatically
# [18:26] <mbrubeck> which should boost the pagerank of the parent
# [18:26] <gerv> Yep, could do.
# [18:26] <gerv> I'll look at doing that.
# [18:26] <gerv> Don't do it at the moment; I'm editing.
# [18:26] <mbrubeck> okay
# [18:26] <gerv> Although I'm just adding a link to the top of each anyway:
# [18:26] <gerv> <span style="color: red; font-weight: bold">Looking for this year's Summer of Code information? [[SummerOfCode|Step right this way.]]</span>
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# [18:27] <Ms2ger> gerv, <strong style="color:red"> ;)
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# [18:28] <gerv> Ms2gerv: :-P
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# [18:28] <Ms2ger> Seeeemantics! ;)
# [18:28] <gerv> Oops, wiki seems to have died.
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# [18:30] <jdm> does anybody know if there's a recommended way to obtain a timestamp for comparison against another timestamp? cjones?
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# [18:30] <Ms2ger> TimeStamp::Now()?
# [18:30] <jdm> are there any downsides to that versus PR_IntervalNow?
# [18:30] <@khuey> do_CreateInstance("@mozilla.org/timestamp;1");
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# [18:31] <Ms2ger> jdm, an upside, you don't have to repent for using "PR"
# [18:31] <mak> how is Timestamp resolution?
# [18:32] <Ms2ger> As good as it gets
# [18:32] <mak> I thought IntervalNow still had a better one
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# [18:42] <@ehsan> bhearsum: ping
# [18:42] <bhearsum> ehsan: pong
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# [18:42] <KaiRo> ted, glandium: congrats on the ARMv6 work, awesome to see there's first testable and apparently working builds!
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# [18:42] <@ehsan> bhearsum: do you know which file in mobile/android/config/mozconfigs is picked for opt try builds?
# [18:43] <bhearsum> ehsan: hmmmm, i'm not sure, but let's find out!
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# [18:43] <bhearsum> android XUL opt or native?
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# [18:44] <bhearsum> ehsan: ^
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# [18:44] <@ehsan> bhearsum: native
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# [18:45] <@ehsan> bhearsum: I see nightly mentioned in the logs, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something or not
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# [18:45] <@ehsan> cause, shouldn't that be used for nightly builds?
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# [18:45] <bhearsum> cp mobile/android/config/mozconfigs/android/nightly .mozconfig
# [18:45] <bhearsum> "nightly" is what we call the opt mozconfigs, confusingly =\
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# [18:46] <@ehsan> bhearsum: ok, so if I want a change in the mozconfig, putting it there is the right thing to do right?
# [18:46] <bhearsum> yup!
# [18:47] <@ehsan> bhearsum: awesome, thanks :)
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# [18:48] <@ehsan> bhearsum: here's another question, did we disable mobile builds on the profiling branch intentionally?
# [18:48] <@ehsan> (I don't remember, I might have requested it myself!)
# [18:48] <bhearsum> i don't know, let me see if the config file gives any hints
# [18:49] <@ehsan> ty
# [18:49] <bhearsum> do you know when disappeared?
# [18:49] <@ehsan> bhearsum: I think a long time ago
# [18:50] <@ehsan> maybe a month or so?
# [18:50] <bhearsum> ok
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# [18:51] <bhearsum> i don't see any configuration changes to the profiling branch this year
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# [18:51] <@ehsan> oh
# [18:51] <@ehsan> well
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# [18:51] <@ehsan> we definitely disabled debug builds there at some point
# [18:51] <@ehsan> right?
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# [18:51] <bhearsum> of you're right, jan 24
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# [18:52] <bhearsum> but yeah, nothing about mobile builds
# [18:52] <bhearsum> if you want them, we can enable them again
# [18:52] <@ehsan> bhearsum: yeah that would be awesome
# [18:53] <@ehsan> bhearsum: should I file a bug?
# [18:53] <bhearsum> yeah
# [18:53] <@ehsan> will do
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# [18:53] <@ehsan> bhearsum: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734417
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# [18:55] <anton> I asked a question on stackoverflow
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# [18:55] <bhearsum> ehsan: thanks
# [18:55] <anton> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9627876/determining-event-handlers-security-principal-at-the-spidermonkey-compiler-entr
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# [18:56] <@ehsan> thank you!
# [18:56] <anton> about pre-determining an event handler's security principal
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# [18:56] <anton> currently security principal of an event handler is determined at runtime (interpreter->scriptSecurityManager)
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# [18:56] <anton> can this be somehow simulated/approximated before the event handler gets compiled? can this be somehow simulated/approximated before the event handler gets compiled?
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# [19:10] <askalski> hi
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# [19:10] <askalski> is there a way to automatically upgrade official firefox in debian?
# [19:10] <askalski> like ubuntu ppa
# [19:10] <askalski> but for debian
# [19:11] <mwu> glandium might know
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# [19:11] <mwu> askalski: though, this is the wrong channel for that question
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# [19:12] <askalski> mwu, what channel should I use?
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# [19:12] <mwu> perhaps #firefox ? or whatever support channels debian may have
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# [19:13] <glandium> askalski: mozilla.debian.net, but you'll get iceweasel, not firefox
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# [19:18] <rillian> mwu: you can also manually install one of the official binaries, and it will update itself
# [19:18] <rillian> unfortunately we haven't provided a package feed
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# [19:18] <rillian> er, that was for askalski ^^
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# [19:20] <askalski> rillian, is there an official reason for that?
# [19:21] <rillian> askalski, 'official' is hard to get at mozilla :)
# [19:21] <rillian> the short answer is that no one has volunteered to maintain it
# [19:21] <rillian> and it's not been enough of a priority for mozilla to talk someone into doing it
# [19:22] <askalski> rillian, :D, ok, I'll think about it
# [19:22] <rillian> :)
# [19:22] <askalski> rillian, I just thought there might be some issues after iceweasel breakup
# [19:23] <rillian> even just including something like a desktop file generator in our tree would help, because you could unpack a nightly in .local and have it integrate itself
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# [19:24] <rillian> askalski, I believe the iceweasel thing is all settled now :)
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# [19:25] * NeilAway wonders why trying to access documentElement fails but using getElementByID for it succeeds
# [19:25] <glandium> rillian: someone was working on rpm packages a while ago (a year ago or so). doing deb would be easy after that
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# [19:25] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, test case?
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# [19:28] <rillian> glandium, can we just wrap our current nightly builds, or would we need targetted builds for different distro releases?
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# [19:29] <Ms2ger> Is pushing to try slow for anyone else?
# [19:29] <glandium> rillian: i think that's what he was doing. (was that jhford?)
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# [19:33] <jlebar> "When Google Chrome hasn't been used for an extended period of time, you may see a little pop-up appear on your screen, asking whether you want to give the latest version of the browser a try or whether you want to uninstall the browser from your computer."
# [19:33] <jlebar> Seriously?
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# [19:33] <gaston> rillian: a desktop file !? what next,a manpage ? :)
# [19:33] <jlebar> https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=150752
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# [19:34] <@khuey> yeah, I saw that too
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# [19:35] <rillian> gaston, I like how you connect the abomination that is the .desktop format to the honoured tradition of unix documentation. :)
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# [19:37] <gaston> rillian: nah, it's just that it might be the two things most asked for by packagers/integrators on unices :)
# [19:38] <gaston> .desktop format is not so horrible, it's just good'ol .ini-style key=value
# [19:38] <rillian> if only the keys were documented
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# [19:39] <rillian> Anyway, I'm more concerned by our command line api than by documenting it. Why doesn't -P imply --no-remote if it doesn't match a running profile??
# [19:39] <rillian> aaanyway, back to work
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# [19:43] <jhford-work> glandium, rillian: i am working on rpm packaging
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# [19:44] <jhford-work> the end goal is to have a yum repository with nightly m-c and aurora builds
# [19:44] <rillian> jhford-work, that would be awesome. what's the bug number?
# [19:44] * jhford-work finds it
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# [19:45] <jhford-work> i haven't done much lately, but it's something i plan to pick up on soon
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# [19:46] <jhford-work> rillian: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649721
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# [19:46] <WG9s> jhford-work: that sounds like a good thing
# [19:46] <jhford-work> yep
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# [19:46] <WG9s> so that things like fedora automatic update will jsut do firefox as well.
# [19:46] <jhford-work> well, at this point the goal is nightly and aurora
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# [19:47] <WG9s> well that is what i meant.
# [19:47] <jhford-work> ahh, ok
# [19:47] <WG9s> still get release updates form your distro.
# [19:48] <jhford-work> distros tend to know the requirement of their distro pretty well :)
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# [19:49] <glandium> rillian: desktop keys *are* documented
# [19:50] <glandium> rillian: as for -P --no-remote, there's a patch in bugzilla, but bsmedberg doesn't want it because the profile manager is due to go
# [19:51] <rillian> *sigh*
# [19:51] <Ms2ger> It's been for years
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# [19:51] <rillian> what's it going to be replaced with?
# [19:51] * @smaug doesn't understand why profile manager should go
# [19:51] <glandium> rillian: something external
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# [19:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, because it's unmaintained, no?
# [19:51] <Ms2ger> Like docshell
# [19:51] <bent> but... it works?
# [19:52] <Ms2ger> So?
# [19:52] <rillian> glandium, I don't know what 'something external' means
# [19:52] <glandium> rillian: a separate program
# [19:52] <bent> no one is suggesting that we remove docshell because it's unmaintained are they?
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# [19:52] <derf> I think we should remove all code that is unmaintained.
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# [19:52] <bent> ha
# [19:52] <derf> You'll get maintainers for things right quick.
# [19:52] <glandium> let's see if i can find that bug
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# [19:53] <Ms2ger> derf, indeed, you get to maintain it all
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# [19:53] <derf> Ms2ger: I have an infinite capacity to maintain more code.
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# [19:53] <glandium> bug 486172
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# [19:53] <derf> As long as you don't mind me doing it badly.
# [19:53] <Ms2ger> Well, that's the current situation
# [19:54] <rillian> derf, will you maintain it by removing it?
# [19:54] <Ms2ger> I'll put you down for docshell, then
# [19:54] <derf> rillian: Perhaaaaaps.
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# [19:54] <glandium> ah, the patch didn't handle --no-remote
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# [19:55] <rillian> nspr patch taking too long to land? NO PROBLEM!
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# [19:56] <Ms2ger> rillian, well, we've got enough people who want to remove nspr already :)
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# [19:57] <rillian> :)
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# [19:57] <glandium> Ms2ger: that would almost fit the remove unmaintained code bill
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# [19:58] <Ms2ger> Last time I needed something from nspr, I ended up rewriting my patch over mfbt instead, and got that reviewed and landed before nspr moved
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# [20:00] <glandium> Ms2ger: the few last times i needed a change to nspr configure.in, I hacked around it in ours instead
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# [20:03] <glandium> jtcranmer: we could just get rid of the crazy logic
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# [20:04] <glandium> seriously, though, i don't see why getting it separate should prevent us from fixing the odd behaviours when giving -P
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# [20:19] <rillian> jhford-work, so how do I invoke your rpm builder?
# [20:20] <ekw> what is the bugzilla link to see the patches submitted by developer?
# [20:20] <ekw> or rather patches checked-in/accepted?
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# [20:21] <jhford> rillian: so... build firefox, then run |make package MOZ_PACKAGE_FORMAT=RPM| iirc
# [20:21] <jhford> the rpm build logs tell all though
# [20:21] <biesi> ekw, as an approximation search for assigned to them and resolution fixed
# [20:21] <biesi> but for a better approximation, ask mercurial
# [20:21] <jhford> currently, I don't have a way to make building rpms an autoconf option, but I'd love for that
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# [20:21] <ekw> Or maybe it wasn't in bugzilla, but I saw a page before that showed the patches contributed by developer, but I can't find it again.
# [20:22] <jhford> to be able to say in a mozconfig --with-package-formats=tar,rpm
# [20:22] <ekw> it was a very dense page, with a diff link and the description and that was it.
# [20:22] <gps> jhford: remember your jacket!
# [20:22] <biesi> well there's requests.cgi but that shows requests
# [20:22] <biesi> not checked-in
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# [20:23] <jhford> gps: thanks! got it :)
# [20:23] <jhford> rillian: make package MOZ_PKG_FORMAT=RPM
# [20:23] <jhford> that's in your objdir
# [20:23] <jhford> for example, see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=9941257&tree=Firefox&full=1
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# [20:23] <ekw> biesi: ok thanks. i'll run into it again I'm sure, but thought i'd asked if someone knew.
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# [20:24] <Ms2ger> ekw, do mention it here if you find it :)
# [20:24] <ekw> will do
# [20:26] <ekw> It's really bugging me now and I'm on a mission to find it
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# [20:28] <rillian> jhford: got that to fail, with the wrong obj directory run from the source tree, and silently from inside the obj dir, but I have enough to look at it now. thanks!
# [20:28] <jhford-work> np
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# [20:49] <ekw> aha! I was looking for this http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/summary and this http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?user=<USER_ID>
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# [20:50] <ekw> not exactly what I described, so no wonder no one could help
# [20:51] <biesi> ah
# [20:51] <biesi> that's more along what I was thinking
# [20:51] <biesi> though I didn't know about that specific feature of pushlog :)
# [20:51] <biesi> ekw, though, if you do it via pushloghtml, I expect it tells you who pushed it, not who wrote the patch
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# [20:52] <ekw> biesi: yeah, i realize that now too.
# [20:52] <ekw> biesi: so only bugzilla could tell you who actually wrote the patch? as opposed to who pushed it
# [20:52] <biesi> ekw, no, mercurial can tell you too
# [20:52] <biesi> I just don't know how to do it from the web
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> CVS can't, though
# [20:53] <biesi> hg log -u bzbarsky@mit.edu
# [20:53] <ekw> maybe replace the" user=" with something else? "patch_author=" or whatever the right param is?
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# [20:53] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/test/test_bug_627616.html?force=1#98 was the one I was looking at
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# [20:55] <Ms2ger> Where's that being called from?
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# [20:56] <biesi> ekw, looks like this works: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log?rev=bzbarsky%40mit.edu
# [20:56] <Ms2ger> philor, does "rm: cannot remove directory `build/xpcshell/tests/xpcom/tests/unit': Directory not empty" ring a bell?
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# [20:57] <ekw> biesi: thanks! how did you find that out?
# [20:57] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: a timer callback
# [20:57] <biesi> ekw, I remembered that there's an input field on the log
# [20:57] <biesi> and I entered an email address there :)
# [20:57] <Ms2ger> Eww
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# [20:57] <biesi> ekw, but it looks like you can only see the most recent 10 commits or so
# [20:58] <biesi> ekw, command line tool works better\
# [20:58] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: feel free to rewrite all the pwmgr tests, I was just confused by that code because I was looking at nearby code
# [20:58] <biesi> but it requires that you have a checkout
# [20:58] <Ms2ger> Hah
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# [20:58] <Ms2ger> 301 mounir
# [20:59] <biesi> hmm, my last commit was in july :(
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# [20:59] <Ms2ger> Slacker!
# [20:59] <biesi> srsly
# [20:59] <biesi> too much day job
# [20:59] <Ms2ger> Go fix docshell!
# [21:00] <biesi> oh god
# [21:00] <@smaug> biesi: obviously you should turn back from the dark side
# [21:00] <@khuey> rm -rf docshell/
# [21:00] <@khuey> it's fixed!
# [21:00] <biesi> smaug, I changed to a different dark side!
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# [21:00] <@smaug> (and fix docshell, so that I don't have to)
# [21:00] <ekw> biesi: do you know if this hg web log is part of mercurial, or something mozilla came up with?
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> biesi, a darker one!
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> ekw, the former
# [21:00] <@smaug> Ms2ger: not sure about that
# [21:00] <biesi> ekw, it's called HgWeb, indeed part of mercurial
# [21:00] <biesi> conceivably we have an old version?
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> Probably
# [21:01] <biesi> ekw, the pushlog part is not from mercurial, afaik
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> Right
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> pushlog is our very own
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# [21:01] <Ms2ger> smaug, yeah, too used to the times when Google didn't do evil :)
# [21:01] <biesi> hah
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# [21:02] <ekw> So this (http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log) is HgWeb, but this (http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml) is something Mozilla did?
# [21:02] <biesi> just so you know, I'm not going to get into a "how evil is google" discussion now. :)
# [21:02] <biesi> ekw, correct
# [21:03] <@smaug> biesi: what about "how evil is FAcebook" ;)
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> biesi, how about tomorrow, then? :)
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> Or what our dragon said
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# [21:04] <biesi> :p
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# [21:05] <jdm> I might not have the attention span to read through brand new code today
# [21:05] <jdm> sigh
# [21:05] <Ms2ger> Excellent
# [21:06] <Ms2ger> Fix my bugs, then :)
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# [21:08] <@bsmedberg> ekw: yes, 'sec and I'll get you links
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# [21:10] <@bsmedberg> ekw: poke at the three repos at http://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom
# [21:10] <@bsmedberg> pushlog is the main one
# [21:10] <ekw> bsmedberg: thanks!
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# [21:12] <jdm> ... http://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/pushlog/file/e99a36d3fd4a/feedparser.py#l2645
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# [21:24] <gps> what .mozconfig magic do I need to use the gold linker? I tried LD=/usr/bin/ld.gold and that didn't seem to stick
# [21:24] <jlebar> gps, export LD= ?
# [21:25] <jlebar> gps, But in truth, I've always done it via apt-get install gold, which makes ld point to ld.gold.
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# [21:27] <gps> good point
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# [21:37] <philor> Ms2ger: fallout from bug 582821
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# [21:37] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [21:38] <philor> we move a file from an ascii name to a unicode name, then Windows keeps it locked and won't let us move it back to the ascii name, the test blows up, and msys can't rm -rf the directory
# [21:38] <biesi> o_O
# [21:38] <biesi> that seems odd?
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# [21:40] <Ms2ger> biesi, "Windows"
# [21:40] <@smaug> or "software"
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# [21:42] <Ms2ger> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | ShutdownLeaks | leaked 119 DOMWindow(s) and 2 DocShell(s) until shutdown
# [21:44] <@smaug> Ms2ger: is the chrome tests?
# [21:44] <@smaug> or browser-chrome
# [21:44] <Ms2ger> Moth on try
# [21:44] <@smaug> I guess we don't allow leaks in normal Mochitests
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# [21:49] <NeilAway> philor: msys just can't rm non-ascii names, we failed on that before
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# [21:50] <philor> NeilAway: yeah, I discovered that when I followed bs's suggestion in the bug to replace the moveTo with a copyTo, wound up leaving four slaves broken instead of just one :)
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# [21:50] <philor> unless the suggestion was meant to be "use copyTo and then removeFrom"
# [21:51] <philor> but I doubt we have an API for defeating Windows' propensity for locking newly-discovered .exe files, other than while (notRemoved)
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# [22:23] <sfink> If I have an nsICrabCakes* pointer, and nsICrabCakes has a string attribute 'texture', how can I invoke GetTexture from gdb and have it call the appropriate (most-specific, if the concrete class inherits from something else) method? Or otherwise see that attribute's value?
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# [22:24] <jtcranmer> call ptr->GetTexture() ?
# [22:24] <biesi> sfink: a string attribute? good luck.
# [22:24] <Ms2ger> What biesi said
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# [22:24] <jtcranmer> hmm
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# [22:25] <sfink> I constructed my own nsACString_internal, but I don't think it went through the constructor properly. Maybe I can find an existing one lying around to "borrow".
# [22:25] <Waldo> XPCOM was not designed for pleasant debugging
# [22:25] <jtcranmer> p ptr->GetTexture might tell you the address of the function, and you could play guess-and-check to figure out what the concrete function is
# [22:25] <biesi> jtcranmer, set print object then p *ptr
# [22:25] <biesi> that gives you the concrete class
# [22:26] <jtcranmer> ah
# [22:26] <sfink> But forgetting about the stringiness of it, how could ptr->GetTexture call the right one? GetTexture is non-virtual, right?
# [22:26] <jtcranmer> all XPIDl methods are virtual
# [22:27] <sfink> Oh. So they are. Why did I think otherwise?
# [22:27] <froydnj> debugging XPCOM screws with your head
# [22:27] <jtcranmer> your brain is made of scrambled marshmellows?
# [22:28] <Ms2ger> You looked at COM?
# [22:28] <sfink> I suppose I *did* ask the question...
# [22:28] <jdm> sfink: call malloc(200), invoke nsCString::nsCString() on it, and pass the address to the function?
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# [22:28] <sfink> What I'm doing right now is using this:
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# [22:28] <sfink> def construct
# [22:28] <sfink> p $obj = ($arg0 *) operator new(sizeof($arg0), malloc(sizeof($arg0)))
# [22:28] <sfink> end
# [22:28] <sfink> and then (gdb) construct nsACString_internal
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# [22:29] <sfink> because I thought something like that worked for me in the past. But now it doesn't seem to be invoking the constructor. Or the right constructor. Or someting.
# [22:29] <biesi> sfink: wrong constructor
# [22:29] <biesi> you need nsCString
# [22:29] <biesi> sfink: what's the exact type of your attribute though?
# [22:30] <sfink> Ah!
# [22:30] <biesi> if it literally is "string" you don't need/want a string class
# [22:30] <sfink> nsACString, I think. Lemme go find it again...
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> If it literally is "string", you need to beat up someone
# [22:30] <sfink> In the IDL, it's 'ACString'
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> nsACString, then
# [22:30] <biesi> ok, right
# [22:31] <biesi> then you want the nsCString constructor, indeed
# [22:31] <biesi> but honestly I think you should avoid trying to call the function
# [22:31] <biesi> if you can
# [22:31] <@smaug> 64 bytes from 128.214.222.4: icmp_req=15 ttl=56 time=20374 ms
# [22:31] <@smaug> that is not very good ping time
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# [22:31] <biesi> smaug, are you pinging the ISS or something?
# [22:32] <Ms2ger> Mordor
# [22:32] <jtcranmer> sounds more like Google's datacenter on the moon
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# [22:32] <sfink> So NS_IMETHOD hides a 'virtual' in it?
# [22:32] <jtcranmer> yes
# [22:32] <jtcranmer> don't you love our magic macros?
# [22:32] <sfink> Ah! That's why I was confused.
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# [22:32] <Ms2ger> And a non-standard calling convention on windows
# [22:32] <biesi> Ms2ger, which is, confusingly enough, called stdcall!
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# [22:33] <Ms2ger> Windows
# [22:33] <biesi> but that's actually a good point, can we replace NS_IMETHOD with "virtual NS_METHOD"?
# [22:33] <Ms2ger> No
# [22:33] <Ms2ger> Replace it with "virtual void" instead
# [22:33] <@smaug> biesi: I'm trying to ping one of the fastest servers in Finland, but I think my connection is not working too well :)
# [22:33] <biesi> virtual nsresult you mean?
# [22:34] <Ms2ger> No, getting rid of the nsresult
# [22:34] <biesi> smaug, if that's the fastest finnish server, scandinavian internet is worse than I thought :-)
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# [22:34] <biesi> Ms2ger, I was aiming for something achievable :p
# [22:34] <Ms2ger> One by one :)
# [22:34] <jtcranmer> biesi: on windows, it needs to be stdcall
# [22:35] <biesi> jtcranmer, yes
# [22:35] <biesi> jtcranmer, how is that incompatible with what I said?
# [22:35] <jtcranmer> hmm
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# [22:35] <jtcranmer> we also have the the imethod_visibility crap
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# [22:36] <Ms2ger> Or, as I call it, XPCOM
# [22:36] <jtcranmer> which NS_METHOD doesn't capture
# [22:36] <jtcranmer> #define NS_IMETHOD_(type) virtual IMETHOD_VISIBILITY type
# [22:36] <biesi> hmm
# [22:36] <jtcranmer> #define NS_METHOD_(type) type
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# [22:36] <biesi> true, though we don't need that anymore
# [22:36] <Ms2ger> Oh?
# [22:36] <jtcranmer> really?
# [22:36] <biesi> with the #pragma push visibility thigny
# [22:36] <stuart> it feels like there are likely better things to do than change macros
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# [22:36] <Ms2ger> stuart, no way!
# [22:37] <jtcranmer> pragma push visibility gets annoying
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# [22:37] <jtcranmer> and you'd have to audit every use of it
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# [22:37] <jtcranmer> far more productive just to kill xpidl
# [22:37] <jtcranmer> :-P
# [22:37] <biesi> ?
# [22:37] <jtcranmer> (or at least xpcom)
# [22:37] <biesi> we use that everywhere
# [22:37] <biesi> what uses do you want to audit?
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# [22:38] <jtcranmer> what I mean is everybody who uses NS_IMETHOD
# [22:38] <Ms2ger> Anyway, killing XPIDL is a Q1 DOM goal
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# [22:38] <Ms2ger> (* For XHR)
# [22:38] <jtcranmer> at least that lkcl guy shut up
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# [22:39] <Ms2ger> (** And not really)
# [22:39] <Ms2ger> But hey, kinda sorta
# [22:40] * froydnj hands Ms2ger a waffle
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> Why thank you
# [22:40] <bent> if i had a dime for every time i've seen someone say "let's kill xpcom/xpconnect/xpidl"...
# [22:40] <froydnj> you could buy Ms2ger another waffle?
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> You'd be able to hire someone to fix all your worker bugs
# [22:40] <Ms2ger> A not-khuey someone, that is
# [22:41] <bent> talk about already-solved-problems ;)
# [22:41] <rillian> bent, maybe a better question is why gdb doesn't understand xpcom?
# [22:42] <bent> it's just c++ with some fun assembly
# [22:42] <bent> what doesn't gdb understand?
# [22:42] <@khuey> why do you think gdb doesn't understand xpcom?
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# [22:43] <jtcranmer> apparently, khuey has never tried to print an nsAString before
# [22:43] <Waldo> bent: longest books ever written
# [22:43] <rillian> that's what I meant
# [22:43] <@khuey> that's not xpcom ...
# [22:43] <bent> oh, you mean gdb doesn't read your mind and do what you want without asking properly?
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# [22:43] <@khuey> bent++
# [22:43] <bent> yeah, someone should get on that
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# [22:44] <Ms2ger> I bet Google has got the mind reading tech by now
# [22:44] <bent> maybe with facial feature detection
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# [22:44] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: its no fun when the buffer is utf8 already
# [22:44] <jtcranmer> so it decides to slow down if you're getting angry?
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# [22:44] <tbsaunde> try nsAString =p
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# [22:46] <sfink> So... now that I have it working, would it be a bad idea to add a description attribute to nsIRunnable so you can figure out what the heck a given event actually is?
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# [22:46] <Callek> MattN: mak: ping?'
# [22:47] <sfink> programmatically, I mean. gdb can already tell me the concrete class.
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# [22:47] <gavin> when do you need to do it programmatically?
# [22:47] <Callek> MattN, mak: Bug 717070 part 3........ WHY O WHY do you have "Firefox" bare in the dtd but still (properly) check BRAND_SHORT_NAME etc.?
# [22:47] <bent> sfink, iirc smichaud hacked something into nsirunnable long ago, but it requires typeinfo
# [22:47] <sfink> gavin: eg when displaying long-running event handlers (jank, etc.)
# [22:48] <bent> it was in a bug somewhere
# [22:48] <mak> Callek: my fault, I missed that
# [22:48] <sfink> bent: yeah, this is basically the "rewrite the whole tree because we don't have rtti enabled" approach
# [22:48] <Callek> mak: granted I'm not in a rush since SeaMonkey doesn't have the separate suite migrator anyway, but "Are you sure you want to reset Firefox to its initial state?" is surely bad ;-)
# [22:48] <gavin> a MISTAKE WAS MADE!!?!
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# [22:48] <mak> Callek: I'll push a follow-up, thanks
# [22:48] <Callek> mak: thanks
# [22:48] <Ms2ger> LET US BLAME GAVIN!
# [22:48] <Waldo> the persons responsible have been sacked
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# [22:49] <Ms2ger> The persons responsible for the sacking have been sacked as well.
# [22:49] * Callek admits that was /much/ more emphasis than necessary
# [22:49] <sfink> bent: or, to be precise: 179 files changed, 2022 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
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# [22:50] <Ms2ger> sfink, or, "r-"
# [22:50] * mak escapes slithering
# [22:50] <Callek> sfink: 0 deletions, you should change one lines whitespace or something :-P\
# [22:50] <sfink> Ms2ger: I'm doing this programmatically, so I can just pick 2022 random lines to delete to compensate
# [22:50] <Ms2ger> mak, *Slytherin
# [22:50] <bent> sfink, though, i seem to recall that a bunch of the jank came from timer events
# [22:50] <Ms2ger> sfink, I suggest editor/
# [22:50] <bent> they do all sorts of things
# [22:50] <bent> like gc
# [22:51] <bent> so just knowing what a runnable is doesn't get you all the way
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# [22:51] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2da0106e2ad9
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# [22:52] <bent> which is why ted made his event loop stack trace thingy
# [22:52] <bent> i think
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# [22:52] <sfink> yeah, this was meant to just be a quick hack to help with an unrelated problem. I'm just wondering if it's useful more generally.
# [22:53] <sfink> not that it ended up being quick, but it kinda pissed me off...
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# [22:56] <tchevalier> gavin: Hi! Do you have some time to talk about your solution in bug 699806?
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# [22:56] <Ms2ger> biesi, well, that's because std::string is an abomination in the eyes of the loard
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# [22:56] <gavin> tchevalier: sure!
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# [22:57] <sfink> |p s.c_str()| isn't so bad...
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# [22:57] <biesi> sfink: fine, neither is x/hs s.mData
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# [22:57] <jtcranmer> biesi: no, but it's still easy to read a const char* in gdb
# [22:57] <tchevalier> gavin: Nice :) There is only one part I didn't understand: "have this build time constant control which of the two prefs (toolkit.telemetry.enabledByDefault or toolkit.telemetry.enabled) exist and are used in the given build, using preprocessor defines."
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# [22:57] <jtcranmer> const PRUnichar * is trying to pull teeth
# [22:57] <biesi> jtcranmer, x/hs yourprunicharstar
# [22:58] <froydnj> biesi: recent gdb + gcc can...
# [22:58] * Waldo would dearly love to add char16_t to mfbt but is not sure if this would result in more pain or less pain in the long run than just adding unichar or some non-standard-named typedef
# [22:58] <Ms2ger> Do it
# [22:58] <biesi> _please_ let's use standard names
# [22:58] <Ms2ger> Or let a minion do it
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# [22:59] <sfink> nybble4_t
# [22:59] <Waldo> biesi: the problem is char16_t is a keyword in C++11, not one in C99/C11, and per specs is supposed to be a different type from uint16_t (but have the same underlying representation)
# [22:59] <biesi> Waldo, why is that a problem?
# [22:59] <tchevalier> gavin: To be sure, what you're saying is to use enabledByDefault only for Nightly/Aurora, and enabled only for Beta/GA. And as you said, we should replace enabled by enabledByDefault on Nightly/Aurora code
# [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b9a624c9fdbe - Marco Bonardo - Bug 717070 follow-up - remove wrongly hardcoded Firefox brand.
# [22:59] <gavin> tchevalier: yes
# [23:00] <Waldo> biesi: so you have to hack around inconsistent compiler support for char16_t in different compilers, including ones that haven't been updated where you're guessing the way in which they'll update
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# [23:00] <gavin> maybe some examples would help. let me write an example patch.
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# [23:00] <tchevalier> gavin: okay, thanks :)
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# [23:01] <mak> Callek: fixed
# [23:01] <Waldo> tchevalier: just curious, what's the distinction between tchevalier and tjc, if the two are the same person as I assume?
# [23:01] <Callek> mak: great thanks
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# [23:01] <tchevalier> waldo: Nope ^^ I'm Théo Chevalier
# [23:01] <Waldo> o_O
# [23:01] <Waldo> :-)
# [23:01] <tchevalier> :D
# [23:01] <Waldo> good to meet you then!
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# [23:02] <tchevalier> Me too :)
# [23:02] <biesi> Ms2ger, feel free to assign to me if you don't expect it to get fixed within a year
# [23:02] <Ms2ger> Pff
# [23:02] <jlebar> smaug, Can you help me use about:ccdump?
# [23:02] <Ms2ger> You're no fun
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# [23:04] <gavin> tchevalier: this is the start of what I was thinking: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1511080
# [23:04] <gavin> tchevalier: there would need to be more changes where there are other references to telemetry.enabled
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# [23:05] <gavin> tchevalier: also some build-goop to define MOZ_TELEMETRY_ENABLED_BY_DEFAULT appropriately
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# [23:06] <@smaug> jlebar: pong
# [23:06] <tchevalier> gavin: Ok, that's what i was thinking. This is what you said here? "have this build time constant control" If, so, no problem, I got it :)
# [23:06] <@smaug> jlebar: I'm more familiar with about:cc, but sure...
# [23:06] <jlebar> smaug, So I have three apparently zombie compartments, but I don't know how to analyze the situation.
# [23:06] <jlebar> smaug, I'm happy to use whatever tool.
# [23:06] <gavin> tchevalier: yep. "build time constant" is MOZ_TELEMETRY_ENABLED_BY_DEFAULT
# [23:06] <tchevalier> gavin: build-goop? To define the define in configure?
# [23:06] <gavin> tchevalier: yeah
# [23:07] <tchevalier> Okay, thx, I think I have all that I need :)
# [23:07] <Callek> gavin: I'm sure there is a good reason, but why the divergent pref?
# [23:07] <tchevalier> gavin: Btw, you're awesome!
# [23:07] <@smaug> jlebar: zombie compartments or zombie documents?
# [23:07] <gavin> Callek: so that it doesn't get clobbered when you switch from nightly<->release
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# [23:08] <Callek> gavin: ok, fair (that is indeed a good reason) thanks.
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# [23:08] <jlebar> smaug, Gah, two of the compartments went away. But one is still there.
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# [23:08] <jlebar> smaug, But...zombie compartment. I don't see a window for the compartment in about:memory.
# [23:09] <@smaug> hmm, I haven't used about:cc* for zombie compartment debugginig..
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# [23:09] <@smaug> debugging
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# [23:09] <gavin> tchevalier: I think you're awesome for fixing this bug - it will be really great to get more telemetry data
# [23:09] <jlebar> smaug, Okay. I'll go back to mccr8, then. :)
# [23:10] <@smaug> jlebar: about:cc might be better for this
# [23:10] <tchevalier> gavin: yeah, it's really exciting!
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# [23:10] <jlebar> smaug, Do you have a link? I don't see it in google or amo.
# [23:11] <@smaug> jlebar: it is in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726346
# [23:11] <@smaug> jlebar: do you see a leaked document?
# [23:11] <@smaug> in about:ccdump or about:cc
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# [23:12] <jlebar> "No possibly-leaked nsDocument objects in the log"
# [23:12] <@smaug> jlebar: it is in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726346
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# [23:12] <@smaug> hmm, ok
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# [23:12] <@smaug> so only the compartment
# [23:12] <@smaug> that is more in JS land
# [23:12] <mccr8> CC may not help then. ;)
# [23:13] <@smaug> so cc log may not be too useful
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# [23:13] <jlebar> mm
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# [23:16] <jesup> So, atlbase.h. I followed the directions on the MDN page https://developer.mozilla.org/en/atlbase.h, and when I run the 2003 SDK install it won't install (Win7 x64); tried x86 and ia64 (intel cpu)
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# [23:17] <jesup> And I can't disable use of atlbase.h in the webrtc code I think
# [23:17] <@khuey> ugh, webrtc uses atl?
# [23:18] <@khuey> we eradicated that from the rest of our code
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# [23:21] <froydnj> atl was jealous of xpcom's tenacity
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# [23:24] <jlebar> joe, You want I should land the two image patches, or do you want one last look at them?
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# [23:24] <jlebar> joe, I wrote a test for drawing a discarded image to the canvas.
# [23:24] <joe> jlebar: nah, go fer it
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# [23:25] <jlebar> joe, I also upped the mobile image cap to 50mb, since otherwise we're going to be tossing out images left and right.
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# [23:26] <@smaug> mccr8: so nsDOMEventTargetHelper doesn't have mListenerManager?
# [23:27] <@khuey> smaug: yes, it's possible necko keeps the xhr alive
# [23:27] <@khuey> it's certainly happened before
# [23:27] <@smaug> mccr8: if so, making Disconnect() virtual and clear the mFooListeners could help here
# [23:28] <@smaug> khuey: that is bad
# [23:28] <mccr8> smuag: I'm not sure... I could look at it.
# [23:28] <@smaug> really bad
# [23:28] <@khuey> smaug: yeah
# [23:29] <mccr8> it does have an mlistenermanager, or a field called that at least.
# [23:29] <@khuey> smaug: mccr8: what are the STR for this?
# [23:29] <RyanVM> mak: edmorley: ping
# [23:29] <mak> RyanVM: pong
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# [23:30] <RyanVM> mak: Do you have a preference for me setting milestone on inbound landing vs. m-c landing?
# [23:30] <RyanVM> makes more sense to me to set it when resolving the bug
# [23:30] <mak> RyanVM: the preference is to set it on inbound landing just because otherwise the sheriff has to do that (instead of just flipping resolution), but many don't
# [23:30] <mccr8> khuey: keep gmail open for a day, close it.
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# [23:31] <mak> RyanVM: so I think it's more like a suggestion to help sheriffs, than a mandatory thing
# [23:31] <@smaug> mccr8: I haven't managed to reproduce
# [23:31] <@khuey> mccr8: heh
# [23:31] <RyanVM> mak: I'll start setting it, then
# [23:31] <@khuey> mccr8: if I set the clock forward a day is that enough :-P
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# [23:31] <mccr8> smaug: I do have one gmail labs thing running, I can try to disable that.
# [23:31] <mccr8> khuey: hah, it shows up faster.
# [23:31] <mccr8> there's some leak that's happening, but it doesn't hurt the CC, until we close the tab.
# [23:32] <mak> RyanVM: ideally, having a merge script that would not be needed anymore, but till we have to do everything manually...
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# [23:32] <@khuey> sure
# [23:32] <RyanVM> mak: heh, fair enough. What ever happened to cdleary-bot that was being used for TM-m-c merges?
# [23:32] <mak> RyanVM: I think edmorley started looking into that code to reuse it and then.... no idea
# [23:33] <RyanVM> doh
# [23:33] <mccr8> khuey: smaug has a patch that seemed to fix it, but it maybe didn't help in the case of being auto logged out.
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# [23:34] <@smaug> mccr8: well, my patch leaves this one edge
# [23:34] <@khuey> hmm
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# [23:34] <@smaug> well, all the onfoo edges
# [23:34] <@khuey> gmail seems to take a minute to go away when I close it
# [23:34] <@khuey> but it does go away
# [23:34] <@smaug> because khuey hasn't fixed onfoo handlers on XHR :p
# [23:34] <@khuey> heh
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# [23:34] <@smaug> khuey: really, your patch would fix this case, as far as I see
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# [23:35] <@khuey> really?
# [23:35] <@khuey> what is the issue?
# [23:35] <@smaug> this XHR keeps lots of stuff alive
# [23:35] <@smaug> my patch clears ELM
# [23:36] <@smaug> but since XHR keeps onfoo listeners explicitly alive...
# [23:36] <@khuey> ah
# [23:36] <@khuey> yes
# [23:36] <mccr8> it keeps alive hundreds of thousands of orphan doms. ;)
# [23:36] <@khuey> that could be problematic
# [23:36] <@khuey> so
# [23:36] <@khuey> we should get Ms2ger to finish my patch
# [23:36] <@smaug> mccr8: but you could try to make that Disconnect() virtual, and manually clear mFooListeners
# [23:37] <@smaug> mccr8: we could get that to FF13
# [23:37] <@smaug> if jst reviews the bigger patch
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# [23:37] <@smaug> (there is still the possibly leaked element, but that is separate issue)
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# [23:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a521a6586e53 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 734288: Use double math instead of float math for computing surface sizes in nsSVGFE::SetupScalingFilter. r=longsonr
# [23:42] <Waldo> firebot: ping
# [23:42] <firebot> Waldo: pong
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# [23:44] <@killer> I don't know who fantasai is.
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# [23:48] <jesup> khuey: it (atlbase.h) actually shows up in a few places
# [23:48] <KaiRo> the GC/CC stuff on error console surely is chatty
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# [23:48] <jesup> khuey: However, webrtc uses it in the win32devicemanager.cc file
# [23:48] <@smaug> KaiRo: well, you've decided to activate that logging
# [23:48] <jesup> khuey: what it needs it for... who knows
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# [23:50] <jesup> So, regardless of *why* it's using atlbase (as a number of other spots in the code use it), does anyone know a way to force the 2003 SDK to install?
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# [23:53] <jesup> The ia64 is "not compatible with the version of Windows you're runninig"; the x86 version starts install and says "Error: Setup was started in a non-native or WoW environment". Hmmm, didn't know I was running Warcraft.... ;-)
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# [23:53] <biesi> windows-on-windows
# [23:53] <biesi> eg. win32 on win64
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# [23:54] <biesi> jesup, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOW64 / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_Windows
# [23:54] <jesup> Right. It is win7x64; so the ia64 should be right
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# [23:54] <jesup> but it won't install
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# [23:55] <jtcranmer> ia64 isn't necessaurly x86_64
# [23:55] <jesup> Ah. Good point
# [23:55] <jesup> So I'm screwed then?
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# [23:56] <@dolske> "you must be level 81 to equip this SDK"
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# [23:57] <@dolske> ia64 == itanium, no?
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# [23:58] <derf> It did once, when people actually thought that was going to be Intel's 64-bit platform of the future.
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# [23:58] <derf> Now enough people have forgotten about Itanium that the acronym is confused.
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