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  22. # [00:16] <cpearce2> tn: Recall how the other day you wanted to understand why we needed to guard against newRootView already being in rootViewParent's tree in this patch: http://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/65d9e9a5f1c5 ? Well I caught a call stack of newRootView being reinserted here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1514716 . Looks like the view heirarchy is being recreated due to the window's fullscreen state change...
  23. # [00:16] <cpearce2> ...showing the window.
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  33. # [00:33] <dholbert> reed, ping?
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  40. # [00:39] <dholbert> Bas, ping?
  41. # [00:41] <dholbert> Bas, you've got linux crashtest perma-orange on your push, it looks like. (one on your push, 2 on my merge immediately after)
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  46. # [00:44] <dholbert> Bas, /me backs you out
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  50. # [00:47] <edmorley> dholbert: about to back out an unrelated cset for talos regressions, have you started or shall I push?
  51. # [00:47] <dholbert> edmorley, go for it
  52. # [00:47] <edmorley> thank you
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  55. # [00:49] <edmorley> dholbert: I can do Bas' one as well, if you want? not sure if all three csets just need to come out or the last two?
  56. # [00:50] <dholbert> edmorley, thanks! I'm already partway through. I agree that it's probably just the last two
  57. # [00:50] <edmorley> :-)
  58. # [00:50] <dholbert> edmorley, (given that the first appears to be windows-specific)
  59. # [00:51] <edmorley> hah, missed the filename
  60. # [00:51] <edmorley> true :-)
  61. # [00:51] <edmorley> well and commit message
  62. # [00:52] <edmorley> sad faces about the downloads panel regressions
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  69. # [01:01] <mcsmurf> what does the list_id= param in a bugzilla query mean?
  70. # [01:02] <mcsmurf> like for example
  71. # [01:02] <mcsmurf> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=2577139;short_desc=preferences%20;resolution=---;query_format=advanced;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr;product=SeaMonkey
  72. # [01:02] <mcsmurf> oh, I see :)
  73. # [01:02] <mcsmurf> well, no, actually not
  74. # [01:03] <mcsmurf> wonder why I never noticed this one before
  75. # [01:04] <reed> dholbert: pong
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  84. # [01:10] <dholbert_> reed, un-ping, sorry
  85. # [01:10] <dholbert_> was going to see if you could do something about a spammer, but he seems to have left
  86. # [01:11] <Callek> dholbert_: he already took care of it
  87. # [01:11] <dholbert_> nice
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  89. # [01:12] <Callek> dholbert_: also feel free to go into #it in the future and ping irc-ops (without the dash)
  90. # [01:14] <edmorley> jwatt: sorry, seems to be M1 orange on your push
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  94. # [01:15] <jwatt> edmorley: what the?
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  96. # [01:16] <jwatt> how is that possible, I only changed a method name and a comment
  97. # [01:17] <edmorley> gremlins :-)
  98. # [01:17] <edmorley> it's a new orange on two platforms
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  101. # [01:18] <NeilAway> jwatt: obviously needed review on that comment change
  102. # [01:18] <NeilAway> ;-)
  103. # [01:19] <jwatt> hmm, seems like that method was hiding another method
  104. # [01:21] <Callek> jwatt: yea http://dxr.lanedo.com/search.cgi?tree=mozilla-central&request_time=1331511201016&string=MaybeInvalidate helps
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  106. # [01:22] <Callek> not sure on all the finer details though
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  112. # [01:25] <jwatt> Callek: yeah, I was aware of the DOMSVGTests one, but I mistakenly thought the two were unrelated because they weren't virtual
  113. # [01:26] <Callek> ahh ok
  114. # [01:26] <jwatt> edmorley: when you said "sorry", I assumed you were backing me out
  115. # [01:26] <Callek> yea DOMSVGTests one does a static-cast to the SVGSWITCH ;it looks like
  116. # [01:26] <jwatt> or are you waiting for me to?
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  118. # [01:26] <Callek> fwiw, I would have hit the same problem if I coded the patch, I'm sure
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  120. # [01:27] <edmorley> jwatt: ah sorry I wasn't very clear, I wasn't backing out (but can now), I meant sorry in the it always seems a bit rude if I just utter "inbound busted" :-)
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  122. # [01:28] <edmorley> s/"/" sense /
  123. # [01:29] <jwatt> edmorley: nah, "inbound busted" followed by "you idiot" is fine ;)
  124. # [01:30] <jwatt> edmorley: if you really don't mind backing out for me, I'd appreciate it
  125. # [01:30] <jwatt> (trying to get a bunch of other things finished)
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  127. # [01:32] <edmorley> jwatt: no problem :-) pushed
  128. # [01:32] <jwatt> edmorley: thanks! :)
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  130. # [01:33] <edmorley> np
  131. # [01:33] <Asa> someone needs to ban luke.leighton from our newsgroups.
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  133. # [01:34] <froydnj> Asa: write a code of conduct first
  134. # [01:35] <myk> froydnj: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
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  139. # [01:38] <philor> write a Win64 plan first, that'll scare him away
  140. # [01:38] <Asa> we don't need a code of conduct to say "you're wasting everyones time and not contributing anything of value so we are kicking you out."
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  145. # [01:40] <mattwoodrow> :q
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  148. # [01:40] <@dolske> Asa: I already email him suggesting he blog this stuff on Planet instead. ;-)
  149. # [01:40] <Asa> dolske: perfect!
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  170. # [01:56] <Matti> Asa: Do you have an example post from this guy ?
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  176. # [02:00] <Matti> ah, that is the PyXPCOM troll
  177. # [02:00] <NCommander> hey all
  178. # [02:01] <NCommander> I'm curious if patches to re-add support to Firefox on IRIX have a chance of acceptence?
  179. # [02:01] <NCommander> (I currently have Spidermonkey running (slowly), and working my way through the rest of the codebase)
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  183. # [02:07] <heycam> AryehGregor, ping
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  186. # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9688c946636f - Dão Gottwald - Bug 734273 - tab bar sometimes shows scroll arrows with only one tab after startup. r=felipe
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  189. # [02:13] <edmorley> Asa: has he posted more recently then? Not sure how much I'm missing due to bug 716007
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  194. # [02:17] <philor> hmm, how long have I been starring timeouts in Android XUL R3?
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  204. # [02:42] <kanru> what is the best way to convert a RefPtr to a COMPtr? Assume they are the same type
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  210. # [02:50] <ejpbruel> kanru: why do you have a RefPtr to a COM object in the first place? (im no authority, but im pretty sure youre not supposed to do that)
  211. # [02:51] <kanru> ejpbruel: it was a concrete class that implements the interface, so they are type in the interface point of view
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  213. # [02:53] <ejpbruel> kanru: right. well, i'd love to give you an answer, but im afraid ill be giving you the wrong advice :)
  214. # [02:53] <ejpbruel> kanru: better try again tomorrow
  215. # [02:54] <Mook> nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> foo = do_QueryInterface(bar)?
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  219. # [02:56] <ejpbruel> kanru: ^ that looks like it might work
  220. # [02:56] <kanru> Mook: unfortunately bar also implements other interfaces so I have to static_cast<nsISupports*> it first, which looks overly complicated.
  221. # [02:57] <kanru> the best I can think of is nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> foo = bar.get()
  222. # [02:57] <kanru> the get() looks scary though :-/
  223. # [02:58] <Mook> and wrong, given what you just said about needing to cast
  224. # [02:58] <Mook> (also: see NS_ISUPPORTS_CAST
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  228. # [03:00] <kanru> yes I know it. so there is no other way to do it?
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  250. # [03:29] <philor> mattwoodrow: it burns!
  251. # [03:30] <philor> we're looking might good, I must say: three backouts in a row, one landing, it's coming out
  252. # [03:31] <mattwoodrow> dammit, i swear i tryserver'd that too
  253. # [03:32] <philor> first one - do the other two depend on it?
  254. # [03:32] <mattwoodrow> no they don't
  255. # [03:32] <jwatt> followed by that tiny little tweak prior to landing that couldn't possibly break the build ;)
  256. # [03:33] <philor> it's out
  257. # [03:33] <mattwoodrow> exactly!
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  259. # [03:33] <mattwoodrow> thanks philor
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  275. # [03:47] <philor> which part of that push slipped out of "it's just D3D!" and into "I'm just making Android XUL R3 hang!"?
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  287. # [03:58] <philor> Bas: you're not around, so I'm going to just have to take out all three of them, aren't I?
  288. # [03:58] <philor> mmm, merged
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  290. # [04:00] <philor> or, not
  291. # [04:00] <philor> &noignore=1 so you can see native R3, which has 5 permafails
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  293. # [04:02] <philor> everything up to and including 2065117f4150 has those 5, then f667f6c22bed through f0a006794b94 time out or crash, then 52e11f6c80b9 which backed out something that landed after the problem started is back to green/5 fails
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  295. # [04:02] <philor> without being a clobber
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  298. # [04:04] <philor> who's a fragile widdle platform? yes, you, you're a fragile widdle platform!
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  311. # [04:28] <kwierso> don't worry, philor, it's not like there's a big merge in 20-30 hours or anything...
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  316. # [04:32] <philor> I can't think where I would have put them
  317. # [04:32] <jtcranmer> Greece?
  318. # [04:33] <nthomas> a certain won't give them back
  319. # [04:33] <nthomas> *museum
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  374. # [05:41] <glob> mcmanus, in ancient versions of bugzilla this was stored in a cookie, since 4.0 it's stored server-side with an associated list-id
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  397. # [06:31] <Bas> philor: Did I actually do something wrong?
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  402. # [06:31] <philor> Bas: I don't have the slightest idea, since what happened makes no sense at all
  403. # [06:31] <Bas> philor: Okay, I really hope not :)
  404. # [06:32] <philor> you landed: bustage; someone else landed: still bustage; they got backed out: unbusted
  405. # [06:32] <Bas> philor: I had a clean try run which is why I head out for drinks after landing :)
  406. # [06:34] <philor> it's Android - I quite often star half of a run where it doesn't even start before I notice, 5 inexplicable pushes of bustage on one suite is nothing
  407. # [06:34] <Bas> philor: So did I get backed out? Because the bug said my backout and initial push got backed out.
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  409. # [06:35] <@dolske> oh, I see what you did wrong.
  410. # [06:35] <@dolske> always start drinking _before_ landing.
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  412. # [06:37] <philor> Bas: oh, that was *you* that got backed out for the Cipc orange, I thought that was someone else, and didn't even look at which csets the backout said
  413. # [06:37] <Bas> dolske: *grins* philor: Ah, I got backed out on an unrelated note. Never mind :) My fault.
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  416. # [06:37] <philor> Bas: so, yeah, now it makes sense - you broke both Cipc on Linux and R3 on Android, though to see that you broke R3 on native Android, you have to look at noignore=1 to see it change from 5 failed tests to a hang or a crash
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  418. # [06:40] <Bas> dholbert: Thanks for backing out, and sorry for that. It seems I wrongly interpreted try server results.
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  424. # [06:53] <jesup> bas: know anything about atlbase.h? One of the files in webrtc wants to use it
  425. # [06:53] * jesup has read the MDN page on it, doesn't really help
  426. # [06:55] <jesup> Actually, I should modify that statement: it hasn't seemed to help
  427. # [07:02] <jesup> And now, just to make me feel silly, it decided to work in VS2008 (though it fails in VS2010). Feh.
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  434. # [07:12] <mcpherrin> Documentation seems to say it shouldn't, but I can log into my web service still
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  505. # [09:23] <ewong> just wondering.. once this command is done |hg push ssh://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central| there's no way in changing the commit log comment?
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  507. # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, correct
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  510. # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, if it's really messed up, you can always back out & re-land
  511. # [09:24] <ewong> Oooh I'll do that..
  512. # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, (but the old commit message & the backout will still exist in history)
  513. # [09:24] <ewong> ohh...
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  516. # [09:26] <dholbert> ewong, what's the problem in this case? "builder" as the author on that latest cset?
  517. # [09:26] <ewong> dholbert: exactly..
  518. # [09:26] <dholbert> ewong, I'd probably just back out & re-land
  519. # [09:26] <ewong> dholbert: I've never backed out anything.. how do I do that?
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  521. # [09:27] <dholbert> ewong, basically just "hg backout [csetid]" and then "hg commit"
  522. # [09:27] <dholbert> ewong, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ#Backing_out_changes is a more definitive reference
  523. # [09:27] <ewong> dholbert: thanks!
  524. # [09:28] <hsivonen_> Asa: thank you for deciding to keep 64-bit Windows nightlies
  525. # [09:28] <dholbert> it can get slightly trickier if you're backing out multiple csets or if someone else has landed since the cset you're backing out (especially if they modify code touched by the backed-out cset)
  526. # [09:28] <dholbert> ewong, but in this case it should be problem-free
  527. # [09:29] <ewong> dholbert: good to know.. encountering problems will be a very bad thing..
  528. # [09:29] <dholbert> ewong, in the backout cset, just say "backing out cset XYZ (bug 123) due to incorrect value in author field" or something like that
  529. # [09:30] <dholbert> ewong, you probably don't need an |hg commit|, actually -- I think backout automatically prompts you for the commit message & commits
  530. # [09:31] <dholbert> ewong, (you're probably discovering that right now)
  531. # [09:33] <ewong> dholbert: yeah.. so do I need to push this backout?
  532. # [09:33] <dholbert> yeah. "hg out" should show just your backout cset
  533. # [09:34] <dholbert> ewong, if you wanted to be thrifty with tbpl cycles, you could do your fixed patch in the same push, but it's probably simpler to do them as 2 different pushes
  534. # [09:34] <dholbert> (and builder cycles are cheap this late at night)
  535. # [09:34] <ewong> dholbert: right..
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  539. # [09:41] <NeilAway> kanru: your question makes no sense, you would never template nsRefPtr and nsCOMPtr over the same type T
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  541. # [09:42] <ewong> dholbert: thanks for the help! I've backedout and pushed an updated cset..
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  546. # [09:44] <ewong> just hope Standard8 doesn't wring my neck for this tbpl churn
  547. # [09:45] <Asa> hsivonen_: I do want to get 64-bit elevated to release eventually. I just don't think right now it's more important than some other things.
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  552. # [09:50] <Asa> ok. it's past my bedtime.
  553. # [09:51] <mcpherrin> Sweet: My university's windows systems all run 3.5.7
  554. # [09:51] <dholbert> ewong, no problem!
  555. # [09:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6f26a8dcd08 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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  557. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/310226a5234a - Mihai Sucan - Bug 731394 - Source Editor in read only mode is not entirely read only; r=rcampbell f=rcampbell
  558. # [09:51] <darktrojan> mcpherrin, could be worse, it's not IE8
  559. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/28cf4b50717c - Girish Sharma - Bug 729480 - Link to rule in Style Editor should show the relevant line at the top of the editor's viewport; r=msucan f=msucan
  560. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fef8ed335cd2 - Heather Arthur - Bug 732313 - Color of style editor links in rule view should be higher contrast. r=jwalker
  561. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82531ecd89f1 - Mark Capella - Bug 730898 - Reuse editMenuKeys in scratchpad.xul, r=msucan
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  570. # [10:04] <Optimizer> :ttaubert , Why was I (was assigned to bug 729480) not able to set the resolution to fixed ?
  571. # [10:05] <nigelb> Optimizer: do you have editbug permission?
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  573. # [10:05] <Optimizer> hmm
  574. # [10:05] <ttaubert> Optimizer: so you wanted to set it to fixed before it was merged? :)
  575. # [10:05] <Optimizer> As in I can change everything else, set resolution to resolved wontfix, invalid etc etc
  576. # [10:06] <Optimizer> but not resolved fixed
  577. # [10:06] <Optimizer> nope, You saw my last comment with the link of merge ?
  578. # [10:06] <Optimizer> I am Girish Sharma
  579. # [10:06] <Optimizer> but there was no option to set the resolution to resolved fixed
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  581. # [10:07] <ttaubert> oic, you wanted to help me. than that's fine!
  582. # [10:07] <ttaubert> *then
  583. # [10:07] <Optimizer> but why wasn't I able to ?
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  585. # [10:07] <ttaubert> dunno
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  588. # [10:08] <Optimizer> do one have to do something else before the Fixed options appears in the list next to resolved ?
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  590. # [10:08] <glob> Optimizer, what's your bmo login?
  591. # [10:09] <Optimizer> scrapmachines@gmail.com
  592. # [10:09] <nigelb> there ya go. bugzilla export.
  593. # [10:09] <Optimizer> ?
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  595. # [10:09] <nigelb> *expert
  596. # [10:09] <glob> Optimizer, you could set all the other ones because the bug is assigned to you
  597. # [10:09] <nigelb> I suspect you don't hav e enough permissions, because I see it.
  598. # [10:09] <nigelb> Ah.
  599. # [10:09] <glob> Optimizer, you need at least canconfirm to set a bug as fixed
  600. # [10:10] <glob> Optimizer, which you _didn't_ have
  601. # [10:10] <Optimizer> I have no idea what is canconfirm or what all did I have
  602. # [10:10] <nigelb> canconfirm is a bugzilla permission
  603. # [10:11] <Optimizer> that was my first bug you see :)
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  606. # [10:11] <glob> Optimizer, \o/
  607. # [10:11] <nigelb> I can't find that wiki page with bugzilla information
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  609. # [10:12] <nigelb> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/What_to_do_and_what_not_to_do_in_Bugzilla
  610. # [10:12] <nigelb> There ya go
  611. # [10:12] <ewong> glob = wiki page with bugzilla information ;)
  612. # [10:12] <Optimizer> :D
  613. # [10:12] <nigelb> ewong: Hahaha
  614. # [10:12] <glob> heh
  615. # [10:12] <glob> nuts.
  616. # [10:12] <nigelb> Tis true.
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  625. # [10:21] <NeilAway> ttaubert: is the source editor a frame or is it a contenteditable area?
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  631. # [10:28] <ttaubert> NeilAway: no idea, I just merged it :)
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  640. # [10:32] <NeilAway> ttaubert: bah
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  643. # [10:33] <NeilAway> ttaubert: if it was a frame, we have ways of making it readonly, but I get the feeling it isn't
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  648. # [10:36] <past> NeilAway: I believe it's a bit of both, but msucan would know better
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  650. # [10:37] <msucan> hello past and NeilAway
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  652. # [10:37] <past> hi!
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  655. # [10:38] <NeilAway> msucan: I just wanted to point out that you can turn on readonly for an entire window, but I don't know whether that's useful for your source editor
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  657. # [10:39] <msucan> NeilAway: turn on readonly for an entire window? how? you mean disable contentEditable?
  658. # [10:39] <NeilAway> msucan: no
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  660. # [10:39] <NeilAway> msucan: like <input readonly> or <textarea readonly>, but for a design mode frame
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  663. # [10:40] <msucan> NeilAway: any link to docs about what you suggest i could use?
  664. # [10:40] <msucan> or what to search for
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  669. # [10:43] <NeilAway> msucan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/compose/content/MsgComposeCommands.js?mark=195,204#192
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  671. # [10:44] <glazou> bonjour
  672. # [10:44] <nigelb> Gutten Morgen
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  679. # [10:47] <msucan> NeilAway: thanks!
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  681. # [10:49] <hsivonen_> I wonder how much work it would take to make the current Maemo/Qt Fennec run on RIM PlayBook
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  712. # [11:47] <hsivonen_> what's the easiest way to run some chrome-privileged JS in Firefox (for ad hoc non-automated testing)?
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  718. # [11:48] <@smaug> hsivonen_: error console
  719. # [11:48] <hsivonen_> smaug: ok. thanks
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  721. # [11:49] <@smaug> hsivonen_: or web console if you first open a chrome tab, like about:config
  722. # [11:53] <NeilAway> gah, so how am I supposed to scroll small amounts these days?
  723. # [11:53] <darktrojan> carefully
  724. # [11:54] <ttaubert> hsivonen_: scratchpad is much nicer, imho
  725. # [11:54] <NeilAway> oh wait, we got a pref!
  726. # [11:54] <NeilAway> jaws++
  727. # [11:55] <NeilAway> darktrojan: xhtml today agin
  728. # [11:55] <NeilAway> +a
  729. # [11:55] <hsivonen_> why do we have a pref for dom.disable_image_src_set?
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  734. # [12:08] <kaie> tbpl try. I mark stars, I click lower left star "add comment". The build IDs get updated to show *. But soon afterwards the stars go away, when the page refreshes.
  735. # [12:09] <kaie> What do I do wrong? Is it necessary to type a comment to make the stars stick?
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  737. # [12:10] <darktrojan> you know you don't have to star try, right?
  738. # [12:13] <kaie> yes. I had the same problem in the past with other branches
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  741. # [12:13] <darktrojan> you probably do need a comment
  742. # [12:14] <past> if you get a list of suggested bugs and click on a star in that list, before clicking 'add comment', then a comment will be added for you
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  744. # [12:17] <kaie> past, doesn't work for me. as darktrojan said. I must click the text "add comment", to get that popup dialog, and I need to click to confirm in that popup. Only then the star is added and actually sticks.
  745. # [12:18] <past> of course, I meant a proper comment is added to the comment area. You still have to submit it though
  746. # [12:19] <darktrojan> oh that's what you mean, yes, just clicking on the start won't do anything
  747. # [12:19] <darktrojan> star
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  753. # [12:28] <darktrojan> nitpicking after stuff lands, NeilAway?
  754. # [12:31] <hsivonen_> ttaubert: thanks. Scratchpad opened for about:config works nicely
  755. # [12:31] <Callek> darktrojan: thats what he does :-P
  756. # [12:31] <Callek> but does someone want to be gentle in INVALID setting of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734842
  757. # [12:31] <Callek> I feel atm I would be much too abrupt
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  760. # [12:35] <NeilAway> darktrojan: well, thanks to inbound, I don't notice when useful patches land any more :-(
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  773. # [12:47] <past> hsivonen_: setting devtools.chrome.enabled to true will add an Environment->Browser menu option so you can hack on the browser without going through about:config
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  777. # [12:52] <hsivonen_> past: thanks
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  792. # [13:10] <NeilAway> jaws: is it me or does the vertical scroll disance pref only affect the arrow keys (not a problem, just so that I know)
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  836. # [14:09] <glob> you'll get 'unable to update bugs' messages
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  839. # [14:14] <glandium> glob: ping
  840. # [14:14] <glob> glandium, pong
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  842. # [14:14] <glandium> glob: I received for the second time a "review cancelled" mail for a r+
  843. # [14:14] <glob> glandium, bug?
  844. # [14:14] <glandium> today it happened on bug 734812
  845. # [14:15] <glob> glandium, can you forward me the email, with the full headers please?
  846. # [14:15] <KaiRo> gah, I hope my bug comment is not lost in that message
  847. # [14:15] <glandium> it happened on bug 727959 before that. In both cases, it's froydnj
  848. # [14:16] <froydnj> may just be because froydnj is lame
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  850. # [14:17] <froydnj> ooo, shiny bugzilla update page
  851. # [14:17] <Callek> maybe froydnj should not be allowed to view/touch bugzilla
  852. # [14:17] <Callek> because when he does it breaks glandium's bugmail
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  857. # [14:18] <glandium> glob: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1515547
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  862. # [14:20] <froydnj> point of usage: are you supposed to flip the r? field on the splinter page, or the addl review field?
  863. # [14:20] <glob> glandium, that looks normal
  864. # [14:20] <glob> froydnj, flip
  865. # [14:20] <nigelb> glob: Is Tell-Us-More part of this release train?
  866. # [14:20] <nigelb> or does it need a sec review?
  867. # [14:20] <froydnj> because I might just be flipping the wrong one out of ignorance
  868. # [14:20] <glob> nigelb, we're not bound to the release train timing at all; in fact we do weekly "releases"
  869. # [14:20] <glandium> froydnj: you need to flip the one that is r? for you
  870. # [14:21] <nigelb> Oh.
  871. # [14:21] <glob> nigelb, correct; it needs a sec review before go-live
  872. # [14:21] <nigelb> glob: aww, okay :)
  873. # [14:21] <froydnj> glandium: ah, that's...strange. I was flipping the addl review, so that's probably what's breaking your bugmail
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  875. # [14:21] <glazou> hsivonen_: ping
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  878. # [14:22] <glob> froydnj, indeed; the 'additional review' used for when you do your review, but think someone else should do an additional one
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  880. # [14:23] <glandium> froydnj: interesting. that sounds like a corner case, because bugzilla looks like it properly detects that you turn a r? into a r+
  881. # [14:23] <glandium> because the other message i receive is about that
  882. # [14:23] <glob> yeah, how bugzilla internally tracks flags is wrong and broken
  883. # [14:23] <glazou> hsivonen_: nevermind
  884. # [14:24] <glandium> glob: how surprising ;)
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  887. # [14:25] <glob> glandium, most of bugzilla is surprising well designed (now, it used to be nothing but badness)
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  934. # [15:12] <KaiRo> bah, the more I read about people enthusiastically embracing github for open source projects, the more I'm disliking it - do people just not care that they are putting all the work into a closed-source centralistic system?
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  939. # [15:14] <gcp> I can see your stance, but git clones carry all their own history
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  943. # [15:14] <KaiRo> gcp: the source itself yes, not the issue tracking, pull request commenting, etc.
  944. # [15:14] <gcp> so "putting all the work" basically means "handling access control"
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  947. # [15:14] <gcp> oh, they're using it as bugzilla, too? thats worse
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  952. # [15:16] <KaiRo> gcp: browserid does, and socorro does all their review commenting there, but tracking bugs in bugzilla at least - most non-core-mozilla projects use all those offers more extenisvely, the way browserid does as well
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  954. # [15:18] <KaiRo> if it was only "I host another git clone there" (with a DVCS it doesn't matter that much what is considered "the main one"), I would say "ok, sure, why not" but it's the tools around it that are so seductive to people and that are closed-source and centralized
  955. # [15:19] <mcpherrin> KaiRo: Personally, I back up everything via their api (tools exist; mostly trivial to do so). Github is easy, functional, and "open enough" for me.
  956. # [15:19] <gcp> what's open about github?
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  960. # [15:21] <mcpherrin> gcp: I don't feel locked in. And they've open sourced "enough" code to deal with the data I get.
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  962. # [15:21] <mcpherrin> Yeah I'd be happier with an actually-open solution, but I don't know of one that doesn't suck.
  963. # [15:23] <mcpherrin> (That said, I wouldn't want to run anything mozilla off it)
  964. # [15:23] * catlee is now known as catlee-away
  965. # [15:23] <mcpherrin> Since mozilla has things like IT staff :P
  966. # [15:23] <nigelb> KaiRo: Most of webdev does review commenting on github.
  967. # [15:24] <nigelb> Actually, I only know of mozilla.org that's not on github.
  968. # [15:24] <mcpherrin> Obviously Mozilla should just buy github and open 'er up
  969. # [15:24] <nigelb> hehe
  970. # [15:25] <nigelb> The bits that we get locked is code review comments. Everything else doesn't really matter much.
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  978. # [15:30] <bhearsum> curtisk: not on people, but onm y own shell
  979. # [15:30] <nigelb> Why is the documentation for locking prefs not easy to find? is it an unsupported feature?
  980. # [15:31] <curtisk> hmm...I am looking for a way to use my people account and not use irssi
  981. # [15:31] <bhearsum> curtisk: i think there are people using znc there
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  985. # [15:32] <curtisk> thanks bhearsum, now I just need to find one of them :)
  986. # [15:33] <nigelb> curtisk: I know a bunch of people in #webdev use it. I don't know who all.
  987. # [15:33] <curtisk> thanks nigelb, I will try there
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  1006. # [15:46] <ewong> dougt ping
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  1010. # [15:47] <KaiRo> WTF? reCAPTCHA is always coming back with "The characters you entered don't match the word verification. Please try again." in all kinds of cases where I encounter it, no matter that I type exactly those random characters they title "words"!
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  1013. # [15:49] <cers> KaiRo: we're on to you, bot...
  1014. # [15:51] <KaiRo> cers: looks like it
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  1017. # [15:51] <KaiRo> whatever words stuff like "gnetword tulawn" should be :(
  1018. # [15:52] <ewong> dougt unping
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  1023. # [15:55] <jtcranmer> KaiRo: maybe you're supposed to get them wrong?
  1024. # [15:55] <bhearsum> lol
  1025. # [15:56] <KaiRo> jtcranmer: possibly
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  1048. # [16:10] <Ameya> hello All
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  1051. # [16:11] <ttaubert> whimboo: huhu
  1052. # [16:12] <whimboo> ttaubert: hossa! i have asked for a feedback via github. Not sure if you got it
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  1055. # [16:12] <ttaubert> whimboo: yes, saw it. will do that
  1056. # [16:12] <whimboo> cool. thanks
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  1058. # [16:15] <Ameya> Is there a way to do such this in C....AddonManager.getAllAddons(function(addons) {alert(addons.filter(function(addon) {return addon.type == "extension"}).map(function(addon) {return addon.name + ": " + addon.getResourceURI().spec}).join("\n"))})
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  1061. # [16:16] <Ameya> whimboo: any idea??
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  1112. # [16:47] <Ameya> which JS file gets called when FF boots up...? I need to extract addon info from it....
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  1114. # [16:49] <@smaug> many js files. browser.js for example
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  1116. # [16:50] <Ameya> smaug: Ok... Can we write AddonManager.getAllAddons(function(addons)...in browsers.js??
  1117. # [16:50] <@smaug> I don't know
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  1146. # [17:00] <froydnj> Ameya: what are you really trying to do?
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  1155. # [17:02] <Ameya> need to get resourceURLs of addons...
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  1158. # [17:03] <froydnj> to what end, though?
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  1163. # [17:03] <Ameya> Actually I have list of URLs of scripts that access nsICookieService ... I need to find which of these URLs belong to extensions...?
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  1169. # [17:04] <Ameya> & i did that by modifying getService() in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSID.cpp
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  1171. # [17:06] <Ameya> When I FF boots up.. I have to store extensionID & its URLs of all installed addons in file... then I will compare this file with list of URLs I got in xpcjsid.cpp
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  1174. # [17:07] <Ameya> froydnj: got it?
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  1176. # [17:07] <froydnj> Ameya: but why are you doing all this?
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  1179. # [17:08] <Ameya> Ultimately I have to prevent addons from accessing history & cookies in rivate borwsing...
  1180. # [17:08] <froydnj> Ameya: regardless, you can just add Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm"); to whatever .js file you like and go about your business
  1181. # [17:08] <AryehGregor> heycam|away, pong.
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  1186. # [17:09] <Ameya> froydnj: Ok... is there a way to get same functionality in c++?
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  1188. # [17:11] <jdm> only through the JSAPI, but that would be really awful to do
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  1190. # [17:11] <Ameya> means??
  1191. # [17:12] <froydnj> there is probably a better way to do what you want to do
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  1193. # [17:13] <Ameya> It would be most easy for me to if it is possible in C++... So I can write that code in getService() of XPCJSID.cpp
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  1195. # [17:14] <Ameya> I also dont need to store in some temp file to compare it...
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  1197. # [17:15] <Ameya> Any idea..??
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  1205. # [17:18] <Ameya> Hello...??
  1206. # [17:18] <jdm> Ameya: I don't see any way to get that data without using javascript objects. Using the JSAPI from C++ for it will be a huge pain, so I don't recommend that option.
  1207. # [17:18] * aki is now known as aki|buildduty
  1208. # [17:18] <aki|buildduty> ehsan: pong
  1209. # [17:18] <@khuey> the Addon Manager is designed to be used from JS
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  1211. # [17:19] <@khuey> trying to use it from C++ is unlikely to succeed
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  1213. # [17:19] <@ehsan> aki|buildduty: I'd like to generate nightlies on two consecutive revisions. how long should I wait after triggering the first one before I trigger the second one?
  1214. # [17:19] <aki|buildduty> hm
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  1218. # [17:21] <Ameya> another thought I read that .... chrme.menifest is read in one of the methods of nsChromeRegistry.cpp.... So can we check for installRDF which is there in every extension....By writing like installRDF.exists() ...??
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  1220. # [17:22] <ericjung> Ameya: what are you trying to do?
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  1222. # [17:23] <aki|buildduty> ehsan: not sure, would take some digging. maybe wait for it to show up in tbpl, maybe kick them off immediately to see if they merge?
  1223. # [17:23] <Ameya> Somehow trying to get resourceURLs of installed addons...
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  1225. # [17:24] <ericjung> Ameya: you mean resource definitions in chrome.manifest for addons that define them?
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  1227. # [17:25] <Ameya> URLs like.... chrome:// or real paths..
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  1229. # [17:26] <@ehsan> aki|buildduty: I think I'll just wait :/
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  1236. # [17:28] <ericjung> Ameya: what's wrong with using https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Addons/Add-on_Manager#Accessing_installed_add-ons ?
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  1244. # [17:31] <Ameya> ericjung: Nothing wrong actually I was looking for similar in C++...
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  1248. # [17:33] <Ameya> ericjung: Can you tell me which JS file is executed when FF boots up...So that I can write there something like getAllAddons(function(addons){ addon.getResourceURI().spec }to get URLs...
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  1251. # [17:36] <fabrice|afk> !seen dolske
  1252. # [17:36] <firebot> dolske was last seen 35 seconds ago, saying 'down arrow maybe? not sure.' in #fx-team.
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  1254. # [17:37] <Ameya> ericjung: any idea..?
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  1257. # [17:37] <ericjung> Ameya: no
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  1260. # [17:37] <Ameya> whom should I ask?
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  1269. # [17:41] <Ameya> ericjung: I think he is offline ....anyone else?
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  1280. # [17:45] <jdm> Ameya: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#1216
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  1304. # [17:54] <Ameya> jdm: I think I will write Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm"); AddonManager.getAllAddons(function(aAddons)...... before browserStartUP() ends....Will it work right??
  1305. # [17:54] <jdm> Ameya: no idea! I don't do much work in the front end.
  1306. # [17:54] <Ameya> Ok let me try...
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  1308. # [17:54] <Ameya> jdm: thnks...
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  1332. # [18:08] <Ms2ger> hsivonen_, I seem to remember being told that the img src setting pref was for a11y
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  1345. # [18:15] <sierk> Hi! Can anybody tell me, if the current Candicate Builds number 7 and 8 of the upcoming FF 11 are related to the currenty found issue(s) in FF while being tested in Pwn2Own?
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  1347. # [18:16] <@smaug> sierk: AFAIK no
  1348. # [18:16] <@smaug> I *think* browser vendors haven't got the details about Pwn2Own bugs yet
  1349. # [18:16] <sierk> So, build 7 and 8 do have other causes?
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  1353. # [18:17] <bhearsum> sierk: what do you mean builds 7 and 8?
  1354. # [18:17] <bhearsum> and no, we don't have details on the pwn2own bugs yet
  1355. # [18:17] <sierk> smaug: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/researchers-hack-into-newest-firefox-with-zero-day-flaw/10663
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  1357. # [18:18] <sierk> bhearsum: sorry, not builds. Beta 7 and Beta 8.
  1358. # [18:18] <bhearsum> ah
  1359. # [18:18] <@smaug> sierk: yes?
  1360. # [18:18] <sierk> bhearsum: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/
  1361. # [18:18] <@khuey> sierk: we're aware of it
  1362. # [18:18] <@khuey> sierk: we follow this stuff *very* closely
  1363. # [18:18] <bhearsum> yeah, those two were builds that address some graphics issues
  1364. # [18:19] <dao> smaug: as far as I know google fixed chrome within 24 hours
  1365. # [18:19] <@smaug> dao: they haven't fix the bug
  1366. # [18:19] <gcp> that was for pwnium issue
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  1368. # [18:19] <gcp> not for pwn2own
  1369. # [18:19] <@khuey> dao: google fixed the vulns they got in a separate competition where they got the exploit immediately
  1370. # [18:19] <sierk> khuey: Any bug number or notice about it in a Mozilla Wiki entry or discussion script?
  1371. # [18:19] <@khuey> dao: afaik we don't have the exploit code yet
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  1373. # [18:19] <@khuey> sierk: no, afaik we're waiting for ZDI to give us the exploit code
  1374. # [18:19] <@smaug> dao: https://pwnium.appspot.com/ about Pwn2Own "(Note: we have NOT received details on either bug)"
  1375. # [18:20] <philor> but it's good to see just how well pwnium will work out for Google
  1376. # [18:20] <sierk> khuey: OK.
  1377. # [18:20] <@khuey> sierk: once we get that there will be a bug, but it will be security-sensitive until it's fixed
  1378. # [18:20] <@khuey> so you won't be able to see it
  1379. # [18:20] <sierk> khuey: OK
  1380. # [18:20] <@khuey> philor: their "oh this bug isn't really in Chrome" stuff is entertaining
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  1382. # [18:21] <edmorley> Hi Ms2ger :-)
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  1395. # [18:25] <philor> wesj: it burns, it burns!
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  1397. # [18:25] <wesj> philor: grrr... i just built it here. wth. looking
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  1402. # [18:27] <Ms2ger> Evening edmorley :)
  1403. # [18:27] <jtcranmer> khuey: link?
  1404. # [18:27] <jtcranmer> (for bug isn't really in chrome)
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  1408. # [18:29] <philor> Google says that any exploit that involves the Flash plugin that they ship and that they install by default isn't actually their bug
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  1410. # [18:29] <dougt> philor: well played?
  1411. # [18:29] <philor> so, "any article where anyone from Google talks about any Vupen exploit of Chrome"
  1412. # [18:29] <@khuey> jtcranmer: yeah, pretty much read any press on this that quotes google ...
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  1415. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> We should claim that all the bugs in SpiderMonkey aren't ours either :)
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  1417. # [18:31] <@smaug> yeah, that is silly. Should we say that exploits involving for example libpng aren't our bugs
  1418. # [18:31] <@smaug> Ms2ger: that might be harder :)
  1419. # [18:31] <Ms2ger> Or blame everything on skia :)
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  1421. # [18:31] <Fallen> clever, if its not our bug maybe someone else will fix it and we get more contributors…is this the new contributor engagement? ;-)
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  1425. # [18:32] <clever> Fallen: ?
  1426. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Hah
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  1428. # [18:32] <Fallen> j/k :)
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  1435. # [18:33] <jtcranmer> Google ships it, so they're responsible for regressing it
  1436. # [18:33] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, HERESY! That almost sounds like common sense!
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  1444. # [18:37] <@ted> wow
  1445. # [18:37] <@ted> why is my win32 nightly update 19.7MB?
  1446. # [18:37] <@ted> are our full MARs that large now?
  1447. # [18:37] <@khuey> because bloat
  1448. # [18:37] <@ted> don't we compress those goddamned things?
  1449. # [18:37] <mbrubeck> funny, since the full install is only 16MB http://nightly.mozilla.org/
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  1451. # [18:37] <@ted> srsly
  1452. # [18:38] <@ted> probably 7-zip vs. bzip2
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  1454. # [18:38] <bhearsum> huh
  1455. # [18:38] <bhearsum> that sucks
  1456. # [18:38] <mbrubeck> Go complain to sewardj. :)
  1457. # [18:38] <@ted> hah
  1458. # [18:38] <bhearsum> let's just do pave over installs instead of complete MARs from now on
  1459. # [18:38] <@ted> i guess we could feasibly use some other compression method
  1460. # [18:38] <@ted> but rolling that out would be a pain
  1461. # [18:39] <@ted> since you'd have to have an updated updater to update
  1462. # [18:39] <bhearsum> yeah, i'd have to be two step
  1463. # [18:39] <mak> is someone backing out wesj already?
  1464. # [18:39] <mbrubeck> mak: wesj is working on it.
  1465. # [18:39] <mak> thanks
  1466. # [18:39] <@ted> the linux mars are ~18/19MB
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  1469. # [18:39] <@ted> so at least we have platform parity
  1470. # [18:39] <mbrubeck> wesj: If you're working on a fix, can we post a quick backout first?
  1471. # [18:40] <@ted> and the mac complete is 37MB
  1472. # [18:40] <wesj> mbrubeck: sure. its just a problem with some tests. just waiting for this build to finish.
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  1474. # [18:41] <wesj> mbrubeck: have to build XUL and native, which is taking a bit...
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  1476. # [18:42] <mbrubeck> Hmm, can't cleanly back out 718760 alone
  1477. # [18:42] * glandium loves how the talos regression mails are *always* wrong about the changeset ranges for Number of Constructors
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  1479. # [18:42] <wesj> mbrubeck: yeah... that's what i hate about these. they're all intertwined, you can back them all out if you want
  1480. # [18:42] <wesj> or i can push this and we can see if it works
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  1484. # [18:44] <mbrubeck> wesj: I'll back everything out now, and you can push after your local builds finish.
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  1487. # [18:44] <glandium> smaug: google must have, since, reportedly, the "5-minutes" chrome hack was fixed 24 hours later
  1488. # [18:45] <cpeterson> Question about nightly builds: Why are Mac builds on the Nightly and Aurora channels ~130 MB, but the Release channel builds are only ~80 MB?
  1489. # [18:45] * glandium should read more backlog before answering
  1490. # [18:45] <@smaug> glandium: no
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  1492. # [18:45] <@smaug> glandium: the Pwn2Own bug is not fixed
  1493. # [18:45] <@smaug> in chrome
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  1495. # [18:47] <glandium> ted: about the updater update, i mentioned it a while ago, but we should support a way to upgrade the updater kind of indepently
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  1497. # [18:47] <glandium> +den
  1498. # [18:47] <bhearsum> why?
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  1500. # [18:47] <bhearsum> we could already ship a mar that only updates updater.exe....
  1501. # [18:48] <bhearsum> (it would still dependent on the product to download/initiate it, though)
  1502. # [18:48] <@ted> cpeterson: we don't strip debug symbols from nightly builds
  1503. # [18:48] <@ted> cpeterson: it makes it so you can run Shark on them usefully, for example
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  1506. # [18:49] <cpeterson> ted, but in the Nightly ftp directories, I see two Mac .dmg builds: firefox.mac-shark.dmg and just firefox.dmg. Does the mac-shark build have additional debug info?
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  1508. # [18:49] <glandium> bhearsum: because you can't change the mar format until everyone is using the new updater
  1509. # [18:50] <bhearsum> you can provide a jump off point
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  1511. # [18:50] <@ted> cpeterson: the mac-shark build has one additional option, AFAIK: --enable-shark
  1512. # [18:50] <bhearsum> eg, everyone updates to 12.0, which has the new updater, then goes to the latest version from there
  1513. # [18:50] <@ted> which adds some content-accessible APIs to start/stop profiling
  1514. # [18:50] <cpeterson> ted, good to know. Thanks!
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  1519. # [18:51] <pallanikumaran> hello people
  1520. # [18:51] <glandium> bhearsum: why should people upgrade to an intermediate version?
  1521. # [18:52] <bhearsum> because they need the new updater :P
  1522. # [18:52] <bhearsum> obviously, that's not ideal
  1523. # [18:52] <glandium> i mean, it's a pretty terrible user experience
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  1525. # [18:52] <bhearsum> we could do fallbacks or something maybe
  1526. # [18:52] <bhearsum> send the updater version along with the firefox one, serve an appropriate mar
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  1528. # [18:53] <bhearsum> i guess i'm partly reacting to how risky it feels to do this
  1529. # [18:53] <pallanikumaran> i am trying to create a patch. but i am getting "abort: unknown revision 'qbase'!" when i he up qbase
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  1532. # [18:55] <mbrubeck> pallanikumaran: That probably means you have no mq patches currently applied.
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  1534. # [18:56] <gavin> do our docs suggest doing "hg up qbase"?
  1535. # [18:56] <gavin> I don't really understand why you'd ever want to do that
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  1539. # [18:57] <pallanikumaran> Here is my predicament: I did not use mecurial queues when i did the changes to the file
  1540. # [18:58] <pallanikumaran> i created all the patch files using patch
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  1542. # [18:59] <pallanikumaran> and then when i want to sumbit it for a review, the reviewer asked the patch to be prepared for check in
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  1544. # [18:59] <mbrubeck> pallanikumaran: In that case I would apply the patches, and then do "hg qnew <patch-name> -m <commit-message>"
  1545. # [19:00] <mbrubeck> Then you can upload the patch file from your .hg/patches directory or use hg export to print it
  1546. # [19:00] <wesj> mbrubeck: ok. here we go again...
  1547. # [19:00] <pallanikumaran> i saved the changes into ta patch file and did a qrefresh, how do i re-apply the patch
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  1549. # [19:01] <mbrubeck> wesj: Got your fingers crossed? :)
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  1551. # [19:01] <gavin> pallanikumaran: we need to figure out what state you're in at the moment
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  1553. # [19:02] <gavin> pallanikumaran: does your patch show up in hg qseries output?/
  1554. # [19:02] <Fallen> where did http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/threads/nsIDOMWorkers.idl go? I'm looking for nsIWorkerGlobalScope...
  1555. # [19:02] <Fallen> and that URL is referenced from MDN
  1556. # [19:02] <pallanikumaran> gavin: how do i do that?
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  1558. # [19:02] <gavin> pallanikumaran: just run |hg qseries| and look at the output
  1559. # [19:03] <pallanikumaran> yes there are. bug-701967-patch
  1560. # [19:03] <pallanikumaran> 701967.patch
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  1562. # [19:04] <pallanikumaran> gavin: i think only the 701967.patch is the correct one. How do i remove the other one
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  1564. # [19:04] <gavin> there are two patches that show up?
  1565. # [19:05] <pallanikumaran> gavin: actually there are three. one is a another bug i am working on
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  1568. # [19:05] <gavin> pallanikumaran: |hg qapplied| will show you which patches are applied
  1569. # [19:05] <gavin> you can delete patches with |hg qrm <patchname>| if they are not applied
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  1578. # [19:06] <gavin> hg you need to unapply them, you can use hg qpop or hg qgoto
  1579. # [19:06] <pallanikumaran> gavin: none of the patches are applied
  1580. # [19:06] <gavin> ok, so you can just hg qrm the bad one
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  1586. # [19:07] <pallanikumaran> gavin: i have removed the bad one. what do i do next?
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  1591. # [19:11] <Mossop> taras: Do we have anything in telemetry that might help us see how many users are crashing on shutdown?
  1592. # [19:11] <gavin> pallanikumaran: generally, you would apply it (using hg qpush or hg qgoto), and then |hg export qtip| to export it in patch format
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  1595. # [19:12] <pallanikumaran> gavin: is there a difference between qpush and qgoto?
  1596. # [19:12] <@ted> hrm
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  1599. # [19:12] <@ted> Mossop: we should probably add an annotation for that in crash reports
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  1601. # [19:12] <@ted> stick a Shutdown=1 annotation when we kick off the shutdown process
  1602. # [19:12] <Mossop> I like it
  1603. # [19:13] <@ted> file it?
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  1605. # [19:13] <taras> Mossop: sorta
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  1608. # [19:14] <gavin> pallanikumaran: |hg help qgoto| and |hg help qpush| should describe the differences
  1609. # [19:14] <taras> Mossop: we have one that indicates prevision shutdown was ok
  1610. # [19:14] <Mossop> ted: Where do crash reporting bugs go these days?
  1611. # [19:14] <gavin> qgoto takes an argument about where in the queue you want to go
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  1613. # [19:14] <gavin> qpush just applies the next patch
  1614. # [19:14] <@ted> Mossop: i'd file that one in toolkit somewhere
  1615. # [19:14] <taras> Mossop: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/telemetry/TelemetryHistograms.h#154
  1616. # [19:14] <@ted> or core or whatever
  1617. # [19:14] <@ted> annotations should go in the component they're related to
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  1619. # [19:15] <Mossop> ted: Filed bug 734945
  1620. # [19:16] <@ted> cool
  1621. # [19:16] <@ted> it's probably trivial to implement
  1622. # [19:16] <@ted> just pick a spot to designate as "shutdown", and annotate there
  1623. # [19:16] <Mossop> Yep, gonna see if I can convince someone to do it
  1624. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> gavin, note, hg qpush foo goes to the patch foo too
  1625. # [19:16] <@ted> Mossop: oh right, you're a manager now, you can't write code :-P
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  1628. # [19:17] <gavin> Ms2ger: only recently!
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  1630. # [19:17] <@ted> Mossop: unrelated, but my daughter loves Dr Seuss' "Too Many Daves", and every time i read it i think about your team
  1631. # [19:17] <gavin> --move is also handy
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  1636. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> gavin, really? It's done for as long as I can remember
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  1638. # [19:19] <Mossop> ted: Less about me being a manager and more about still trying to finish up patches for bugs I started weeks ago :(
  1639. # [19:19] <@ted> i hear you
  1640. # [19:20] <@ted> but i have a better excuse than you
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  1642. # [19:20] <Mossop> cuter excuse maybe ;)
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  1659. # [19:28] <pallanikumaran> gavin: thanks
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  1662. # [19:29] <pallanikumaran> gavin: what is the procedure i should follow when i want to start on my next bug
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  1671. # [19:33] <Mossop> bsmedberg: Would you object to us putting a simple zip version of the OSX XULRunner runtime on ftp as well as the current dmg+pkg version?
  1672. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: heh, I have a patch!
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  1674. # [19:33] <Mossop> Great, that saves me writing one :)
  1675. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: I'm removing the DMG/pkg version entirely, since it isn't something we want anyone to use
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  1677. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> and just shipping a .tar.bz2 version
  1678. # [19:33] <Mossop> Sounds good to me
  1679. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> I need to write a README file
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  1683. # [19:36] <gavin> paoletto: generally, hg qnew
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  1685. # [19:36] <timeless> Mossop: my desktop's session is always run in safe mode :)
  1686. # [19:36] <timeless> because it starts in safe mode, and i either force kill it, or get an update notification
  1687. # [19:37] <timeless> the updates come back and say "i want to run in safe mode, pick stuff to disable" :(
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  1689. # [19:37] <timeless> all i want is to restore my session and get out of safe mode :(
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  1692. # [19:39] <Mossop> timeless: You can't just exit and start in normal mode?
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  1705. # [19:43] <timeless> mbrubeck: fwiw you need some quotes after -m around <commit-message> ;-)
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  1707. # [19:44] <timeless> Mossop: um, i'm not a big exit'ing person. dunno. i don't trust exit not to do stupid things :)
  1708. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> timeless, not if it's only one word! :)
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  1713. # [19:46] <timeless> Ms2ger: that wouldn't be an acceptable commit message per mozilla policy
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  1715. # [19:46] <timeless> (there was context)
  1716. # [19:47] <timeless> :)
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  1718. # [19:47] <testman> Hello. Just one thing. I have noticed that you added "browser.newtab.url", and I am thankful for that, but it has small problem. When new tab is loaded, cursor focus is on URL bar instead of page, so when user starts typing, he writes at the end of URL address instead of some field on webpage (like Google Search)
  1719. # [19:48] <testman> can this be fixed?
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  1721. # [19:48] <testman> or at least controlled by user, where the focus will be?
  1722. # [19:48] <mbrubeck> testman: Is that true even if the page sets focus on load?
  1723. # [19:49] <mbrubeck> testman: For example by using <input autofocus>
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  1725. # [19:49] <testman> my "browser.autofocus" is set on True
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  1727. # [19:50] <testman> same thing with False
  1728. # [19:50] <testman> using latest Nightly build
  1729. # [19:50] <taras> Mossop: also, see 723802
  1730. # [19:50] <mbrubeck> testman: I mean in the source of the new tab page
  1731. # [19:50] <testman> oh
  1732. # [19:51] <loadbang> anyone finding that Facebook makes Firefox UI feel laggy and slow?
  1733. # [19:51] <loadbang> Release version on Mac here, haven't tried Windows.
  1734. # [19:52] <mbrubeck> testman: Hmm, looks like setting autofocus in the new tab page doesn't help... I just tried browser.newtab.url="http://google.com" and it still ends up with the urlbar focused
  1735. # [19:53] <testman> that is my problem :)
  1736. # [19:53] <mbrubeck> Yeah, that seems like a bug.
  1737. # [19:53] <testman> brb restart
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  1741. # [19:54] <aja> tabindex look right?
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  1747. # [19:55] <testman> but wait, when I load www.w3schools.com/html5/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_autofocus in newtab focus jumps on first field
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  1749. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Bah, w3fools
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  1751. # [19:56] <testman> so then is Google one that does not request focus or is that bug in Nightly?
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  1753. # [19:57] <Wes> wait. autofocus exists? I can stop typing document.getElementByTagName("INPUT")[0].focus() in every document?
  1754. # [19:57] * Wes needs to read up on HTML5 again
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  1756. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> HTML Living Standard, you mean :)
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  1763. # [19:59] <Waldo> Ms2ger: Wes is a Director, so HTML5 is the appropriate buzzword for him to use ;-)
  1764. # [19:59] <Ms2ger> Hah
  1765. # [19:59] <Waldo> mm, specs and politics
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  1781. # [20:06] <dao> luke: ttaubert worked on this code and should be able to answer your questions in bug 731868
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  1788. # [20:08] <luke> dao: yeah, he had been helping earlier in the bug. that's why i gave him the review
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  1792. # [20:11] <Wes> Waldo: LOL - I'm just dancing in the land of "We don't support IE<9 anymore". It's so .... refreshing!
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  1794. # [20:12] <Waldo> heh
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  1801. # [20:15] * Waldo likes where this media-decoder discussion is going in m.d.platform, after being concerned at the first few messages he read in it
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  1803. # [20:15] <Waldo> also, </3 that newsgroup/mailing-list mirroring of threading is so broken
  1804. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> ^
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  1809. # [20:17] <jtcranmer> Waldo: blame mailman
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  1811. # [20:17] <Ms2ger> Let's blame Google
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  1822. # [20:21] <philor> it's not Google's fault, it's the Flash plugin
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  1824. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> philor++
  1825. # [20:21] <loadbang> I have a file places.sqlite-wal that is 2.4GB in my profile
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  1830. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> mak, ^
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  1832. # [20:24] <gcp> "because sqlite"
  1833. # [20:25] <mak> loadbang: not usual at all, also becase we enforce a limit. I suspect you have some really bad add-on
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  1842. # [20:28] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: ok posted. I'd love suggestions for the wording of the README.xulrunner file
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  1852. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> Waldo, thank you
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  1858. # [20:36] <derf> Ms2ger++
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  1864. # [20:40] <mbrubeck> Waldo: I had read "Yes, we do" as responding to "we need to think more than just the current state of the web" (rather than to the question that immediately preceded it, which I admit is the more obvious reading). I wonder if that was just generous interpretation on my part...
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  1870. # [20:44] <wesj> mbrubeck: did i break android forever or something?
  1871. # [20:44] <jprmc> jesup: ping
  1872. # [20:45] <mbrubeck> wesj: No, infra problems
  1873. # [20:45] <mbrubeck> wesj: Apparently all the tegras went offline or something.
  1874. # [20:45] <jprmc> jesup: khuey can help out on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733002 - can you two sync up?
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  1876. # [20:45] <jprmc> jesup: perhaps having him review the overall peerconnection work would also be good?
  1877. # [20:46] * bhearsum piles on jesup
  1878. # [20:46] <bhearsum> jesup: can you have a look at the last comment of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734349, and see if i'm correct that we're done in that bug?
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  1893. # [20:53] <Waldo> mbrubeck: there's something to be said for generous interpretation, definitely
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  1913. # [21:00] <joe> how do I clobber windows debug builds? is it just covered in "build"?
  1914. # [21:00] <@khuey> rm -rf objdir
  1915. # [21:00] <@khuey> same as every other platform
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  1917. # [21:01] <joe> khuey: I meant https://build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=maple
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  1920. # [21:01] <jesup> bhearsum: done
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  1922. # [21:02] <@khuey> joe: oh
  1923. # [21:02] <@khuey> leak-test
  1924. # [21:02] <@khuey> or something
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  1926. # [21:02] * @khuey forgets
  1927. # [21:02] <joe> ok
  1928. # [21:02] <joe> kats clobbered the world anyways, so we're cool
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  1935. # [21:04] <jesup> khuey: when you've got a good point to chat, ping me. We generally chat in #media, though anywhere will do
  1936. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0fe720174e5d - Paul Rouget - Bug 717923 - Use an icon for the inspect button; r=dao
  1937. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d3737bf2bb2 - Panos Astithas - Bug 731277 - Add support for using fn.displayName as the function name in stack frames; r=rcampbell
  1938. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/849150e0fb09 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 734314 - "Unwrapped getBoolPref call causes dbg-server.jsm to fail to load in B2G" [r=past]
  1939. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1d8fdbc69641 - Blake Winton - Bug 704223 - styles added in data urls are displayed badly in the rule view; r=prouget
  1940. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/503a8074e7fe - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 703643 - Be able to copy from the rules view; r=prouget
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  1943. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6946244becb4 - Tim Taubert - Bug 734043 - Error: node.parentNode is null when I click x button of thumbnail quickly in newTab page; r=dietrich
  1944. # [21:05] <bwinton> firebot: Hurray! :)
  1945. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6dea789aeb4b - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 705276 - Split style inspector CSS between content & document CSS; r=prouget
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  1947. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/04f2053a28eb - Rob Campbell - Bug 729220 - Allow editing of attribute names in the HTML panel of the Page Inspector; r=prouget
  1948. # [21:05] <firebot> bwinton: iirc, :) is a normal smiley face
  1949. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Highly relevant: http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qgqykgi11rqvy12o1_1280.jpg
  1950. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Bas, ^ :)
  1951. # [21:06] <Bas> Ms2ger: Non-accelerated backends aren't consistent either ;)
  1952. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Shh :)
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  1955. # [21:07] <bhearsum> jesup: thanks!
  1956. # [21:07] <nigelb> where is the right place to ask questions about about:memory?
  1957. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Bas, got anybody around who feels like removing a canvas2d implementation, accidentally? :)
  1958. # [21:07] <nigelb> (mostly, about how to read it)
  1959. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> nigelb, here, I guess
  1960. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> Or whereever njn is
  1961. # [21:08] <jesup> bhearsum: thank *you*!
  1962. # [21:08] <bhearsum> yw
  1963. # [21:08] <nigelb> Ah, so, I don't see all tabs on there. Should I be seeing that?
  1964. # [21:08] * armenzg is now known as armenzg_mtg
  1965. # [21:08] <jesup> nigelb: usually #memshrink
  1966. # [21:08] <Bas> Ms2ger: What did you mean there? :)
  1967. # [21:08] <nigelb> thanks!
  1968. # [21:08] <nigelb> I also figued now how to see all tabs. Lol.
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  1972. # [21:09] <jesup> nigelb: but realize njn is in Australia, so I wouldn't expect to see him before 6 or 7pm ish
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  1976. # [21:10] <nigelb> jesup: 6 or 7pm ish where? :)
  1977. # [21:10] * nigelb is in India
  1978. # [21:10] <Waldo> jesup meant Internet Swatch Time, of course
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  1980. # [21:11] <nigelb> So, PDT?
  1981. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> Bas, that having two implementations of the API (one Azure, one not) is bad for my limited sanity
  1982. # [21:11] <jesup> nigelb: Sorry, ET :-)
  1983. # [21:11] <Bas> Ms2ger: It is bad.
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  1985. # [21:11] <jesup> EDT to be precise
  1986. # [21:11] <Bas> Ms2ger: We're working on it :)
  1987. # [21:11] <Bas> There's nothing we can do about having a transitionary period.
  1988. # [21:11] <nigelb> HA, thanks :)
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  1990. # [21:12] <Ms2ger> One that takes a decade? :)
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  2002. # [21:18] <@ehsan> BenWa: why does your cleopatra instance no longer work?
  2003. # [21:19] <BenWa> ehsan: Are you sure it's not that the nightly is broken?
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  2005. # [21:19] <@ehsan> BenWa: hmm, how can I check?
  2006. # [21:19] <BenWa> let me look at your problem
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  2020. # [21:28] <aceman> hi
  2021. # [21:28] <smaug> ++Ms2ger
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  2023. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> ++peterv
  2024. # [21:29] <aceman> In the file browser/locales/en-US/chrome/overrides/netError.dtd there is hardcoded 'Firefox' name in serveral strings. These texts are used on Firefox error pages. Is there a bug for that?
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  2026. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Dunno
  2027. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> If there isn't, can you file?
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  2033. # [21:34] <smontagu> aceman: there is bug 336029, which mentions netError in comment 12
  2034. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> heycam|away, ping
  2035. # [21:34] <smontagu> but not anywhere else so I don't know if it's the same thing
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  2043. # [21:37] <aceman> it is taht bug, thanks
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  2048. # [21:40] <philor> mbrubeck: got any idea which of 20 pushes would have broken a testPasswordUndeletion robocop test?
  2049. # [21:41] <philor> wesj: oh, hello!
  2050. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> Back it all out
  2051. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> Unless I'm in the range
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  2053. # [21:41] <philor> wesj: Error getting method - java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: ensureNSSLibsLoaded
  2054. # [21:42] <smaug> ugh, links to dxr
  2055. # [21:42] <wesj> philor: thanks
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  2063. # [21:45] <mak> mbrubeck++
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  2069. # [21:48] <aja> philor: Bug 725052 patches would be my SWAG
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  2075. # [21:50] <philor> aja: yeah, right after asking I scrolled down two pushes from the orange and saw that wesj had just added it :)
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  2077. # [21:51] <philor> mbrubeck: that Win64 build failure on inbound? don't be surprised if you hit it on m-c, since one of the things you just merged switched Win64 to using VS2010
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  2085. # [21:54] <nthomas> tmi
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  2087. # [21:54] <bhearsum> lol
  2088. # [21:54] <bhearsum> i really don't understand that phrase, and i'm probably happier that way
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  2090. # [21:57] <smontagu> phylax is greek for shield if that helps
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  2092. # [21:57] <philor> "Prophylactic: A preventive measure. The word comes from the Greek for an advance guard"
  2093. # [21:58] <philor> (an advance guard with shields, as it happens)
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  2098. # [21:58] <smontagu> maybe a metaphorical shield: "shield in front" == advance guard
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  2113. # [22:06] <mcot> ls
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  2115. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> accessible build config dbm extensions ipc Makefile.in modules parser security testing widget
  2116. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> aclocal.m4 caps configure docshell gfx js media mozglue probes services toolkit xpcom
  2117. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> allmakefiles.sh chrome configure.in dom hal layout memory netwerk profile src tools xpfe
  2118. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> b2g client.mk content editor image LEGAL mfbt nsprpub rdf startupcache uriloader xulrunner
  2119. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> browser client.py db embedding intl LICENSE mobile other-licenses README.txt storage view
  2120. # [22:08] <mbrubeck> go north
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  2122. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> You go into docshell
  2123. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> You are eaten by a grue
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  2126. # [22:09] <mcot> anyone know whats going on here?
  2127. # [22:09] <Pike> I went down south, and now I'm stuck in mfbt
  2128. # [22:09] <mcot> make[1]: Entering directory `/c/esr10src/objdir/dom/src/storage'
  2129. # [22:09] <mcot> c:/mozilla-build/python/python2.7.exe /c/esr10src/config/JarMaker.py \
  2130. # [22:09] <mcot> -j ../../../dist/bin/chrome \
  2131. # [22:09] <mcot> -t /c/esr10src -f flat -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -D_IMPL_NS_LAYOUT -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XP
  2132. # [22:09] <mcot> T_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES -DOSTYPE=\"WINNT6.1\
  2133. # [22:09] <mcot> " -DOSARCH=WINNT -DEXCLUDE_SKIA_DEPENDENCIES -DUNICODE -D_UNICODE -DNOMINMAX -D_CRT_RAND_S -DCERT_CHAIN_PARA_HAS_EXTRA_
  2134. # [22:09] <mcot> FIELDS -D_SECURE_ATL -DCHROMIUM_BUILD -DU_STATIC_IMPLEMENTATION -DOS_WIN=1 -DWIN32 -D_WIN32 -D_WINDOWS -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_
  2135. # [22:10] <mcot> MEAN -DCOMPILER_MSVC -D_CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS=1 -D_CRT_NONSTDC_NO_WARNINGS=1 -DHAVE_SEH_EXCEPTIONS=1 -DHAVE_WINSDKVER_
  2136. # [22:10] <mcot> H=1 -DMOZ_MSVC_STL_WRAP__Throw=1 -DWINVER=0x502 -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x502 -D_WIN32_IE=0x0500 -DMOZ_WINSDK_TARGETVER=0x0601000
  2137. # [22:10] <mcot> 0 -DMOZ_NTDDI_WS03=0x05020000 -DMOZ_NTDDI_LONGHORN=0x06000000 -DMOZ_NTDDI_WIN7=0x06010000 -DHAVE_IO_H=1 -DHAVE_SETBUF=1
  2138. # [22:10] * @khuey watches this channel burn
  2139. # [22:10] <mcot> -DHAVE_ISATTY=1 -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DMOZILLA_VERSION=\"10.0.1\" -DMOZILLA_VERSION_U=10.0.1 -DHAVE_SNPRINTF=1 -D_WINDO
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  2141. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Pike, at least that's a nice place :)
  2142. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Thanks, gavin
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  2144. # [22:10] <mwu> killer not nearly blood thirsty enough
  2145. # [22:10] <Pike> Ms2ger: yeah, even though Jever is actually up north, but that was taken by docshell :-(
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  2160. # [22:18] <mcot> so in trying to build dom I am getting "res/hiddenWindow.html not found"
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  2162. # [22:18] <mcot> http://pastebin.com/Fumsu9m1
  2163. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> Fascinating
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  2167. # [22:21] <mcot> not sure why the path is all messed up
  2168. # [22:21] <jdm> why is it looking for the hidden window in dom/src/storage?
  2169. # [22:22] <jdm> that's weird
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  2183. # [22:27] <mcot> I did an incremental build and just wanted to rebuild dom
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  2190. # [22:30] <jdm> mcot: what command did you use?
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  2194. # [22:30] <mcot> just make
  2195. # [22:31] <jdm> in what directory?
  2196. # [22:31] <mcot> from my objdir/dom
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  2203. # [22:35] <mcot> sourcedirs = ['c:\\esr10src\\dom\\src\\storage']
  2204. # [22:35] <mcot> topsourcedir = c:\esr10src
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  2207. # [22:38] <mcot> something seems a little weird in JarMarker.py
  2208. # [22:38] <mcot> JarMaker*
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  2212. # [22:39] <mcot> elif src.startswith('/'): # refers to a path relative to topsourcedir, use that as base
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  2216. # [22:40] <jaws> is there a way to send a patch to tryserver that runs based on the current mozilla-aurora trunk?
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  2218. # [22:41] <nthomas> jaws: depends if you want the android tests to work or not
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  2220. # [22:41] <mcot> that seems like it should be the other way around... relative path if src does not start with '/'
  2221. # [22:41] <nthomas> jaws: if not, you can just take your aurora repo, mq the patches and push to try as normal
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  2223. # [22:41] <jaws> oh ok, i didn't know if that would work. cool, thanks!
  2224. # [22:42] <nthomas> yeah, it just pushes all the history you need at the same time
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  2228. # [22:43] <tn> taras, i don't know if the benefits we'll get from 702463 and related are p1 worthy
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  2230. # [22:44] <taras> tn: not janking during scrolling?
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  2232. # [22:44] <gavin> fabrice: I think the patch you attached is missing something? I don't see any uses of the timeout pref
  2233. # [22:44] <gavin> fabrice: I think it's unnecessary to make that a pref, fwiw
  2234. # [22:44] <taras> i suppose we have multiple causes of jank during scrolling, this is just one candidate
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  2236. # [22:45] <gavin> fabrice: also it might be a good idea to check what geolocation does for its failure callbacks
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  2238. # [22:45] <tn> taras, yeah, there are other reasons
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  2240. # [22:45] <gavin> dougt might know offhand
  2241. # [22:45] <fabrice> gavin: I forgot to hg add the pref file. SO just hardcoding 30s would be enough?
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  2246. # [22:45] <gavin> fabrice: yeah, seems fine to me
  2247. # [22:45] <fabrice> ok
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  2250. # [22:46] <taras> tn: i still think it's important to get this fixed within ff14 timeframe
  2251. # [22:46] * philor|away is now known as philor
  2252. # [22:46] <taras> but we do have bigger things to fix
  2253. # [22:47] <tn> taras, yeah, this isn't too much work, so we should do it, but there are bigger problems
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  2260. # [22:50] <kaie> when is the last chance to get into ff 13 via mozilla-inbound landing? (or are we already past that point)
  2261. # [22:50] <kaie> (not urgent, not curious)
  2262. # [22:50] <@khuey> kaie: early tuesday morning
  2263. # [22:50] <kaie> thanks!
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  2269. # [22:51] <kaie> is that the new PR_TRUE ?
  2270. # [22:51] <@khuey> no
  2271. # [22:52] <@khuey> it's some sort of NS_ABORT_IF_FALSE lookalike
  2272. # [22:52] <gavin> # define MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(expr) MOZ_ASSERT((expr))
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  2274. # [22:54] <@khuey> I'm all for helpful macros, but this seems pretty silly
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  2289. # [22:59] <mcsmurf> hi, someone happens to know if the mitchell [at] mozilla.org address should still work?
  2290. # [22:59] <mcsmurf> I sent a mail to her, but now I saw she uses @mozilla.com now
  2291. # [22:59] <mcsmurf> got no mail bounce though so far
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  2294. # [23:00] <AryehGregor> ehsan, is there a bug to make the last two parameters to execCommand() optional?
  2295. # [23:00] * AryehGregor doesn't see one
  2296. # [23:01] <dholbert> mcsmurf, her mozillians.org page lists the mozilla.org option you mentioned
  2297. # [23:01] <mcsmurf> ok :)
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  2299. # [23:02] <@dolske> blizzard: upboat!
  2300. # [23:04] <NeilAway> smaug: during event dispatch, does Gecko take a snapshot of all the listeners on an element and then call them? do you know if it always used to do this?
  2301. # [23:04] <mcsmurf> btw: I think it's quite alarming that all three major browser got hacked in that pwn2own competition
  2302. # [23:04] <mcsmurf> software security is quite difficult to do right it looks like..
  2303. # [23:05] <@smaug> NeilAway: it creates event target chain before real dispatch
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  2305. # [23:05] <@smaug> all the elements are kept alive
  2306. # [23:05] <@smaug> and gecko < 1.9 didn't do that
  2307. # [23:05] <@smaug> and it was against the spec
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  2309. # [23:05] <@khuey> mcsmurf: indeed :-(
  2310. # [23:05] <@khuey> C++ ftl
  2311. # [23:06] <@smaug> NeilAway: er
  2312. # [23:06] <@smaug> NeilAway: you asked about listeners..
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  2314. # [23:06] <@smaug> oops :)
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  2319. # [23:07] <@smaug> NeilAway: at least it used to take a snapshot
  2320. # [23:07] <@smaug> but I'm not sure anymore...
  2321. # [23:08] <@smaug> hmm, or no
  2322. # [23:08] * @smaug tries to remember
  2323. # [23:08] <@smaug> NeilAway: look at the cvs blame
  2324. # [23:08] <NeilAway> smaug: oh, that far back? nm then
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  2329. # [23:11] <NeilAway> mcot: the / means that it's relative from the topsrcdir rather than the depth, think of it like a chroot
  2330. # [23:11] <mcot> yah I saw that
  2331. # [23:11] <@bsmedberg> inbound is going to be merged before the uplift tomorrow, right?
  2332. # [23:11] <@khuey> yes
  2333. # [23:12] <mcot> I just did a quick hack on the script to force it to be dom/src rather than dom/src/storage
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  2336. # [23:12] <mcot> res/hiddenWindow.html is relative to dom/src
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  2344. # [23:15] <bholley> dveditz: when filing a new bug, what's the difference between 'Security-Sensitive Core Bug' and 'Many users could be harmed by this security problem: it should be kept hidden from the public until it is resolved. '?
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  2354. # [23:19] <@dveditz> bholley: one everyone can see, the other you can see because you're in that group
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  2356. # [23:19] <bholley> dveditz: by 'everyone' do you mean 'everyone in the security group'?
  2357. # [23:20] <@dveditz> also the generic checkbox ("many users could be harmed...") defaults to different security groups in different products. in Core/Firefox/etc it's the same as core-security, but in bugzilla it would default to bugzilla-security
  2358. # [23:20] <@dveditz> no, everyone with an account can see the "Many users could be harmed..." checkbox when filing a bug
  2359. # [23:20] <bholley> dveditz: oh, I see. That's what i was wondering
  2360. # [23:20] <@dveditz> that's how we get security bugs from non-insiders
  2361. # [23:20] <bholley> dveditz: ohhhh, you mean 'I can see the option'
  2362. # [23:21] <bholley> not 'i can see the bug'
  2363. # [23:21] <@dveditz> the "Security-Sensitive Core Bug" checkbox is only visible if you are in that group. Happens to mean the same thing in the Client products
  2364. # [23:21] <@dveditz> doesn't matter which one you check
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  2367. # [23:23] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: not that I know of
  2368. # [23:23] <gps> I wonder how many CPU cycles, GC pressure are wasted by extensions (like adblock or ghostery) performing URL/content pattern matching using non-optimal algorithms
  2369. # [23:23] <AryehGregor> ehsan, well, now there is, and I r?'d you on the patch. :)
  2370. # [23:24] <@ehsan> good
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  2377. # [23:26] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: r=me with comments
  2378. # [23:27] <AryehGregor> :)
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  2385. # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: I think it would be better for the back-end to handle the timeouts
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  2387. # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: can we just handle this separately in a followup bug?
  2388. # [23:31] <gavin> I don't think we need to block the UI landing on it
  2389. # [23:31] <fabrice> gavin: so, I revert to using a secondary action?
  2390. # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: no I think it makes sense to remove thes econdary action, but lets not do any of the timer stuff
  2391. # [23:32] <fabrice> so the user can never deny install?
  2392. # [23:32] <gavin> right
  2393. # [23:32] <gavin> is that really a big problem?
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  2395. # [23:32] <gavin> (I can see that it's a problem, but I'm not sure it's a "need to be solved before the UI can land" kind of problem)
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  2397. # [23:33] <fabrice> I'm not sure how bad it is
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  2399. # [23:33] <gavin> the goal is to land this UI today, right?
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  2401. # [23:35] <fabrice> yes
  2402. # [23:36] <gavin> does anything bad happen if the backend doesn't get a "denied" response?
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  2407. # [23:37] <fabrice> gavin: nothing bad. The UI may use it, but that doesn't break anything
  2408. # [23:37] <gavin> yeah ok
  2409. # [23:37] * rnewman|afk is now known as rnewman
  2410. # [23:38] <fabrice> eg, on https://apps.mozillalabs.com/appdir/ the install button turns into a throbeer that is reset to either an "installed" label when installed, or back to the "Install" button if installation is denied
  2411. # [23:38] <fabrice> gavin: ^
  2412. # [23:38] <gps> beer_debt[Mossop]++
  2413. # [23:38] <gavin> ok
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  2416. # [23:41] <surkov> smaug: ping
  2417. # [23:41] <gavin> fabrice: nsGeolocationRequest::SetTimeoutTimer seems to be what is used for geolocation
  2418. # [23:42] <gavin> I think it makes sense to be consistent, and do something similar for the webapps API backend
  2419. # [23:42] <gavin> I think it's fine to land the UI with this bug, for 13
  2420. # [23:42] <gavin> and we can follow up and fix the timeout stuff on aurora
  2421. # [23:42] <fabrice> gavin: ok!
  2422. # [23:43] <fabrice> do you want to see the final patch?
  2423. # [23:43] <gavin> sure
  2424. # [23:43] <gavin> hmm, that SetTimeoutTimer might be something else
  2425. # [23:43] <@smaug> surkov: pong
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  2427. # [23:43] <gavin> anyways, we can look into it further
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  2430. # [23:43] <Waldo> khuey: MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(expr) is basically |bool _cond = expr; MOZ_ASSERT(_cond);|
  2431. # [23:43] <surkov> smaug: could you look at bug 421242 please?
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  2433. # [23:44] <gavin> oh, geolocation has an explicit timeout parameter as part of the API
  2434. # [23:44] <Waldo> khuey: the JS engine uses the idea all over the place, for things that are fallible but known in context not to be
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  2436. # [23:44] <fabrice> gavin: yep, geolocation is different
  2437. # [23:44] <gavin> this geo code is confusing
  2438. # [23:44] <surkov> smaug: tbsaunde not sure about xbl methods so wanted to get feedback from someone who knows it
  2439. # [23:44] <fabrice> blame dougt!
  2440. # [23:44] <@smaug> surkov: ah, sorry, it is in my feedback queue (which is like, look at this when the review queue is empty )
  2441. # [23:44] <Waldo> "The old Google Groups will be going away soon. Switch to the new Google Groups." so you're not going to tell me what I might be switching to before I switch? o_O
  2442. # [23:45] <surkov> smaug: I see, it'd be nice to get you there sooner ;)
  2443. # [23:45] <kwierso> Waldo: it's new, therefore better :)
  2444. # [23:46] <Waldo> possibly, and for me perhaps even probably
  2445. # [23:47] <Waldo> yet at the same time, I'd really like to know what I'm switching to :-)
  2446. # [23:47] * Waldo guesses http://groups-announcements.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-in-google-groups.html is as close as he's likely to get
  2447. # [23:48] <@smaug> surkov: I wish I could understand what the bug is about :)
  2448. # [23:48] <Waldo> seems innocuous enough, if I believe what they're telling me is important is a superset of what's actually going to be important for me
  2449. # [23:49] <surkov> smaug: aria-blabla attributes should on XBL bound element be able to point into XBL anon content
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  2451. # [23:49] <Waldo> oh, so after I've opted in, *then* they tell me "Not ready for change? Temporarily choose the old Google Groups from the gear menu."
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  2458. # [23:50] <WeirdAl> about extension ID's, is there anything that prevents them from being a URL or URI?
  2459. # [23:50] * cpearce doesn't like how the new google groups interface has lower information density. Bigger fonts != better.
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  2463. # [23:51] <mbrubeck> There's a toggle in the list view to a somewhat denser version... It doesn't address everything though.
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