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- # Session Start: Mon Mar 12 00:00:00 2012
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- # [00:16] <cpearce2> tn: Recall how the other day you wanted to understand why we needed to guard against newRootView already being in rootViewParent's tree in this patch: http://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/65d9e9a5f1c5 ? Well I caught a call stack of newRootView being reinserted here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1514716 . Looks like the view heirarchy is being recreated due to the window's fullscreen state change...
- # [00:16] <cpearce2> ...showing the window.
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- # [00:33] <dholbert> reed, ping?
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- # [00:39] <dholbert> Bas, ping?
- # [00:41] <dholbert> Bas, you've got linux crashtest perma-orange on your push, it looks like. (one on your push, 2 on my merge immediately after)
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- # [00:44] <dholbert> Bas, /me backs you out
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- # [00:47] <edmorley> dholbert: about to back out an unrelated cset for talos regressions, have you started or shall I push?
- # [00:47] <dholbert> edmorley, go for it
- # [00:47] <edmorley> thank you
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- # [00:49] <edmorley> dholbert: I can do Bas' one as well, if you want? not sure if all three csets just need to come out or the last two?
- # [00:50] <dholbert> edmorley, thanks! I'm already partway through. I agree that it's probably just the last two
- # [00:50] <edmorley> :-)
- # [00:50] <dholbert> edmorley, (given that the first appears to be windows-specific)
- # [00:51] <edmorley> hah, missed the filename
- # [00:51] <edmorley> true :-)
- # [00:51] <edmorley> well and commit message
- # [00:52] <edmorley> sad faces about the downloads panel regressions
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- # [01:01] <mcsmurf> what does the list_id= param in a bugzilla query mean?
- # [01:02] <mcsmurf> like for example
- # [01:02] <mcsmurf> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=2577139;short_desc=preferences%20;resolution=---;query_format=advanced;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr;product=SeaMonkey
- # [01:02] <mcsmurf> oh, I see :)
- # [01:02] <mcsmurf> well, no, actually not
- # [01:03] <mcsmurf> wonder why I never noticed this one before
- # [01:04] <reed> dholbert: pong
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- # [01:10] <dholbert_> reed, un-ping, sorry
- # [01:10] <dholbert_> was going to see if you could do something about a spammer, but he seems to have left
- # [01:11] <Callek> dholbert_: he already took care of it
- # [01:11] <dholbert_> nice
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- # [01:12] <Callek> dholbert_: also feel free to go into #it in the future and ping irc-ops (without the dash)
- # [01:14] <edmorley> jwatt: sorry, seems to be M1 orange on your push
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- # [01:15] <jwatt> edmorley: what the?
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- # [01:16] <jwatt> how is that possible, I only changed a method name and a comment
- # [01:17] <edmorley> gremlins :-)
- # [01:17] <edmorley> it's a new orange on two platforms
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- # [01:18] <NeilAway> jwatt: obviously needed review on that comment change
- # [01:18] <NeilAway> ;-)
- # [01:19] <jwatt> hmm, seems like that method was hiding another method
- # [01:21] <Callek> jwatt: yea http://dxr.lanedo.com/search.cgi?tree=mozilla-central&request_time=1331511201016&string=MaybeInvalidate helps
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- # [01:22] <Callek> not sure on all the finer details though
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- # [01:25] <jwatt> Callek: yeah, I was aware of the DOMSVGTests one, but I mistakenly thought the two were unrelated because they weren't virtual
- # [01:26] <Callek> ahh ok
- # [01:26] <jwatt> edmorley: when you said "sorry", I assumed you were backing me out
- # [01:26] <Callek> yea DOMSVGTests one does a static-cast to the SVGSWITCH ;it looks like
- # [01:26] <jwatt> or are you waiting for me to?
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- # [01:26] <Callek> fwiw, I would have hit the same problem if I coded the patch, I'm sure
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- # [01:27] <edmorley> jwatt: ah sorry I wasn't very clear, I wasn't backing out (but can now), I meant sorry in the it always seems a bit rude if I just utter "inbound busted" :-)
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- # [01:28] <edmorley> s/"/" sense /
- # [01:29] <jwatt> edmorley: nah, "inbound busted" followed by "you idiot" is fine ;)
- # [01:30] <jwatt> edmorley: if you really don't mind backing out for me, I'd appreciate it
- # [01:30] <jwatt> (trying to get a bunch of other things finished)
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- # [01:32] <edmorley> jwatt: no problem :-) pushed
- # [01:32] <jwatt> edmorley: thanks! :)
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- # [01:33] <edmorley> np
- # [01:33] <Asa> someone needs to ban luke.leighton from our newsgroups.
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- # [01:34] <froydnj> Asa: write a code of conduct first
- # [01:35] <myk> froydnj: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
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- # [01:36] * edmorley backs away slowly...
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- # [01:38] <philor> write a Win64 plan first, that'll scare him away
- # [01:38] <Asa> we don't need a code of conduct to say "you're wasting everyones time and not contributing anything of value so we are kicking you out."
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- # [01:40] <@dolske> Asa: I already email him suggesting he blog this stuff on Planet instead. ;-)
- # [01:40] <Asa> dolske: perfect!
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- # [01:56] <Matti> Asa: Do you have an example post from this guy ?
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- # [02:00] <Matti> ah, that is the PyXPCOM troll
- # [02:00] <NCommander> hey all
- # [02:01] <NCommander> I'm curious if patches to re-add support to Firefox on IRIX have a chance of acceptence?
- # [02:01] <NCommander> (I currently have Spidermonkey running (slowly), and working my way through the rest of the codebase)
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- # [02:07] <heycam> AryehGregor, ping
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- # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9688c946636f - Dão Gottwald - Bug 734273 - tab bar sometimes shows scroll arrows with only one tab after startup. r=felipe
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- # [02:13] <edmorley> Asa: has he posted more recently then? Not sure how much I'm missing due to bug 716007
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- # [02:17] <philor> hmm, how long have I been starring timeouts in Android XUL R3?
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- # [02:42] <kanru> what is the best way to convert a RefPtr to a COMPtr? Assume they are the same type
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- # [02:50] <ejpbruel> kanru: why do you have a RefPtr to a COM object in the first place? (im no authority, but im pretty sure youre not supposed to do that)
- # [02:51] <kanru> ejpbruel: it was a concrete class that implements the interface, so they are type in the interface point of view
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- # [02:53] <ejpbruel> kanru: right. well, i'd love to give you an answer, but im afraid ill be giving you the wrong advice :)
- # [02:53] <ejpbruel> kanru: better try again tomorrow
- # [02:54] <Mook> nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> foo = do_QueryInterface(bar)?
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- # [02:56] <ejpbruel> kanru: ^ that looks like it might work
- # [02:56] <kanru> Mook: unfortunately bar also implements other interfaces so I have to static_cast<nsISupports*> it first, which looks overly complicated.
- # [02:57] <kanru> the best I can think of is nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> foo = bar.get()
- # [02:57] <kanru> the get() looks scary though :-/
- # [02:58] <Mook> and wrong, given what you just said about needing to cast
- # [02:58] <Mook> (also: see NS_ISUPPORTS_CAST
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- # [03:00] <kanru> yes I know it. so there is no other way to do it?
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- # [03:29] <philor> mattwoodrow: it burns!
- # [03:30] <philor> we're looking might good, I must say: three backouts in a row, one landing, it's coming out
- # [03:31] <mattwoodrow> dammit, i swear i tryserver'd that too
- # [03:32] <philor> first one - do the other two depend on it?
- # [03:32] <mattwoodrow> no they don't
- # [03:32] <jwatt> followed by that tiny little tweak prior to landing that couldn't possibly break the build ;)
- # [03:33] <philor> it's out
- # [03:33] <mattwoodrow> exactly!
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- # [03:33] <mattwoodrow> thanks philor
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- # [03:46] * philor eyes Bas suspiciously
- # [03:47] <philor> which part of that push slipped out of "it's just D3D!" and into "I'm just making Android XUL R3 hang!"?
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- # [03:58] <philor> Bas: you're not around, so I'm going to just have to take out all three of them, aren't I?
- # [03:58] <philor> mmm, merged
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- # [04:00] <philor> or, not
- # [04:00] <philor> &noignore=1 so you can see native R3, which has 5 permafails
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- # [04:02] <philor> everything up to and including 2065117f4150 has those 5, then f667f6c22bed through f0a006794b94 time out or crash, then 52e11f6c80b9 which backed out something that landed after the problem started is back to green/5 fails
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- # [04:02] <philor> without being a clobber
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- # [04:04] <philor> who's a fragile widdle platform? yes, you, you're a fragile widdle platform!
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- # [04:28] <kwierso> don't worry, philor, it's not like there's a big merge in 20-30 hours or anything...
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- # [04:32] <jtcranmer> Greece?
- # [04:33] <nthomas> a certain won't give them back
- # [04:33] <nthomas> *museum
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- # [05:41] <glob> mcmanus, bugzilla remembers the list of bugs returned by your search, to make the next/prev function work
- # [05:41] <glob> mcmanus, in ancient versions of bugzilla this was stored in a cookie, since 4.0 it's stored server-side with an associated list-id
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- # [06:31] <Bas> philor: Did I actually do something wrong?
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- # [06:31] <philor> Bas: I don't have the slightest idea, since what happened makes no sense at all
- # [06:31] <Bas> philor: Okay, I really hope not :)
- # [06:32] <philor> you landed: bustage; someone else landed: still bustage; they got backed out: unbusted
- # [06:32] <Bas> philor: I had a clean try run which is why I head out for drinks after landing :)
- # [06:34] <philor> it's Android - I quite often star half of a run where it doesn't even start before I notice, 5 inexplicable pushes of bustage on one suite is nothing
- # [06:34] <Bas> philor: So did I get backed out? Because the bug said my backout and initial push got backed out.
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- # [06:35] <@dolske> oh, I see what you did wrong.
- # [06:35] <@dolske> always start drinking _before_ landing.
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- # [06:37] <philor> Bas: oh, that was *you* that got backed out for the Cipc orange, I thought that was someone else, and didn't even look at which csets the backout said
- # [06:37] <Bas> dolske: *grins* philor: Ah, I got backed out on an unrelated note. Never mind :) My fault.
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- # [06:37] <philor> Bas: so, yeah, now it makes sense - you broke both Cipc on Linux and R3 on Android, though to see that you broke R3 on native Android, you have to look at noignore=1 to see it change from 5 failed tests to a hang or a crash
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- # [06:40] <Bas> dholbert: Thanks for backing out, and sorry for that. It seems I wrongly interpreted try server results.
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- # [09:23] <ewong> just wondering.. once this command is done |hg push ssh://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central| there's no way in changing the commit log comment?
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- # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, correct
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- # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, if it's really messed up, you can always back out & re-land
- # [09:24] <ewong> Oooh I'll do that..
- # [09:24] <dholbert> ewong, (but the old commit message & the backout will still exist in history)
- # [09:24] <ewong> ohh...
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- # [09:26] <dholbert> ewong, what's the problem in this case? "builder" as the author on that latest cset?
- # [09:26] <ewong> dholbert: exactly..
- # [09:26] <dholbert> ewong, I'd probably just back out & re-land
- # [09:26] <ewong> dholbert: I've never backed out anything.. how do I do that?
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- # [09:27] <dholbert> ewong, basically just "hg backout [csetid]" and then "hg commit"
- # [09:27] <dholbert> ewong, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ#Backing_out_changes is a more definitive reference
- # [09:27] <ewong> dholbert: thanks!
- # [09:28] <hsivonen_> Asa: thank you for deciding to keep 64-bit Windows nightlies
- # [09:28] <dholbert> it can get slightly trickier if you're backing out multiple csets or if someone else has landed since the cset you're backing out (especially if they modify code touched by the backed-out cset)
- # [09:28] <dholbert> ewong, but in this case it should be problem-free
- # [09:29] <ewong> dholbert: good to know.. encountering problems will be a very bad thing..
- # [09:29] <dholbert> ewong, in the backout cset, just say "backing out cset XYZ (bug 123) due to incorrect value in author field" or something like that
- # [09:30] <dholbert> ewong, you probably don't need an |hg commit|, actually -- I think backout automatically prompts you for the commit message & commits
- # [09:31] <dholbert> ewong, (you're probably discovering that right now)
- # [09:33] <ewong> dholbert: yeah.. so do I need to push this backout?
- # [09:33] <dholbert> yeah. "hg out" should show just your backout cset
- # [09:34] <dholbert> ewong, if you wanted to be thrifty with tbpl cycles, you could do your fixed patch in the same push, but it's probably simpler to do them as 2 different pushes
- # [09:34] <dholbert> (and builder cycles are cheap this late at night)
- # [09:34] <ewong> dholbert: right..
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- # [09:41] <NeilAway> kanru: your question makes no sense, you would never template nsRefPtr and nsCOMPtr over the same type T
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- # [09:42] <ewong> dholbert: thanks for the help! I've backedout and pushed an updated cset..
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- # [09:44] <ewong> just hope Standard8 doesn't wring my neck for this tbpl churn
- # [09:45] <Asa> hsivonen_: I do want to get 64-bit elevated to release eventually. I just don't think right now it's more important than some other things.
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- # [09:50] <Asa> ok. it's past my bedtime.
- # [09:51] <mcpherrin> Sweet: My university's windows systems all run 3.5.7
- # [09:51] <dholbert> ewong, no problem!
- # [09:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6f26a8dcd08 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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- # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/310226a5234a - Mihai Sucan - Bug 731394 - Source Editor in read only mode is not entirely read only; r=rcampbell f=rcampbell
- # [09:51] <darktrojan> mcpherrin, could be worse, it's not IE8
- # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/28cf4b50717c - Girish Sharma - Bug 729480 - Link to rule in Style Editor should show the relevant line at the top of the editor's viewport; r=msucan f=msucan
- # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fef8ed335cd2 - Heather Arthur - Bug 732313 - Color of style editor links in rule view should be higher contrast. r=jwalker
- # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82531ecd89f1 - Mark Capella - Bug 730898 - Reuse editMenuKeys in scratchpad.xul, r=msucan
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- # [10:04] <Optimizer> :ttaubert , Why was I (was assigned to bug 729480) not able to set the resolution to fixed ?
- # [10:05] <nigelb> Optimizer: do you have editbug permission?
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- # [10:05] <Optimizer> hmm
- # [10:05] <ttaubert> Optimizer: so you wanted to set it to fixed before it was merged? :)
- # [10:05] <Optimizer> As in I can change everything else, set resolution to resolved wontfix, invalid etc etc
- # [10:06] <Optimizer> but not resolved fixed
- # [10:06] <Optimizer> nope, You saw my last comment with the link of merge ?
- # [10:06] <Optimizer> I am Girish Sharma
- # [10:06] <Optimizer> but there was no option to set the resolution to resolved fixed
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- # [10:07] <ttaubert> oic, you wanted to help me. than that's fine!
- # [10:07] <ttaubert> *then
- # [10:07] <Optimizer> but why wasn't I able to ?
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- # [10:07] <ttaubert> dunno
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- # [10:08] <Optimizer> do one have to do something else before the Fixed options appears in the list next to resolved ?
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- # [10:08] <glob> Optimizer, what's your bmo login?
- # [10:09] <Optimizer> scrapmachines@gmail.com
- # [10:09] <nigelb> there ya go. bugzilla export.
- # [10:09] <Optimizer> ?
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- # [10:09] <nigelb> *expert
- # [10:09] <glob> Optimizer, you could set all the other ones because the bug is assigned to you
- # [10:09] <nigelb> I suspect you don't hav e enough permissions, because I see it.
- # [10:09] <nigelb> Ah.
- # [10:09] <glob> Optimizer, you need at least canconfirm to set a bug as fixed
- # [10:10] <glob> Optimizer, which you _didn't_ have
- # [10:10] <Optimizer> I have no idea what is canconfirm or what all did I have
- # [10:10] <nigelb> canconfirm is a bugzilla permission
- # [10:11] <Optimizer> that was my first bug you see :)
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- # [10:11] <glob> Optimizer, \o/
- # [10:11] <nigelb> I can't find that wiki page with bugzilla information
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- # [10:12] <nigelb> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/What_to_do_and_what_not_to_do_in_Bugzilla
- # [10:12] <nigelb> There ya go
- # [10:12] <ewong> glob = wiki page with bugzilla information ;)
- # [10:12] <Optimizer> :D
- # [10:12] <nigelb> ewong: Hahaha
- # [10:12] <glob> heh
- # [10:12] <glob> nuts.
- # [10:12] <nigelb> Tis true.
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- # [10:21] <NeilAway> ttaubert: is the source editor a frame or is it a contenteditable area?
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- # [10:28] <ttaubert> NeilAway: no idea, I just merged it :)
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- # [10:32] <NeilAway> ttaubert: bah
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- # [10:36] <past> NeilAway: I believe it's a bit of both, but msucan would know better
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- # [10:37] <msucan> hello past and NeilAway
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- # [10:37] <past> hi!
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- # [10:38] <NeilAway> msucan: I just wanted to point out that you can turn on readonly for an entire window, but I don't know whether that's useful for your source editor
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- # [10:39] <msucan> NeilAway: turn on readonly for an entire window? how? you mean disable contentEditable?
- # [10:39] <NeilAway> msucan: no
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- # [10:39] <NeilAway> msucan: like <input readonly> or <textarea readonly>, but for a design mode frame
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- # [10:40] <msucan> NeilAway: any link to docs about what you suggest i could use?
- # [10:40] <msucan> or what to search for
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- # [10:43] <NeilAway> msucan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/compose/content/MsgComposeCommands.js?mark=195,204#192
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- # [10:44] <glazou> bonjour
- # [10:44] <nigelb> Gutten Morgen
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- # [10:47] <msucan> NeilAway: thanks!
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- # [11:47] <hsivonen_> what's the easiest way to run some chrome-privileged JS in Firefox (for ad hoc non-automated testing)?
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- # [11:48] <@smaug> hsivonen_: error console
- # [11:48] <hsivonen_> smaug: ok. thanks
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- # [11:49] <@smaug> hsivonen_: or web console if you first open a chrome tab, like about:config
- # [11:53] <NeilAway> gah, so how am I supposed to scroll small amounts these days?
- # [11:53] <darktrojan> carefully
- # [11:54] <ttaubert> hsivonen_: scratchpad is much nicer, imho
- # [11:54] <NeilAway> oh wait, we got a pref!
- # [11:54] <NeilAway> jaws++
- # [11:55] <NeilAway> darktrojan: xhtml today agin
- # [11:55] <NeilAway> +a
- # [11:55] <hsivonen_> why do we have a pref for dom.disable_image_src_set?
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- # [12:08] <kaie> tbpl try. I mark stars, I click lower left star "add comment". The build IDs get updated to show *. But soon afterwards the stars go away, when the page refreshes.
- # [12:09] <kaie> What do I do wrong? Is it necessary to type a comment to make the stars stick?
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- # [12:10] <darktrojan> you know you don't have to star try, right?
- # [12:13] <kaie> yes. I had the same problem in the past with other branches
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- # [12:13] <darktrojan> you probably do need a comment
- # [12:14] <past> if you get a list of suggested bugs and click on a star in that list, before clicking 'add comment', then a comment will be added for you
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- # [12:17] <kaie> past, doesn't work for me. as darktrojan said. I must click the text "add comment", to get that popup dialog, and I need to click to confirm in that popup. Only then the star is added and actually sticks.
- # [12:18] <past> of course, I meant a proper comment is added to the comment area. You still have to submit it though
- # [12:19] <darktrojan> oh that's what you mean, yes, just clicking on the start won't do anything
- # [12:19] <darktrojan> star
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- # [12:28] <darktrojan> nitpicking after stuff lands, NeilAway?
- # [12:31] <hsivonen_> ttaubert: thanks. Scratchpad opened for about:config works nicely
- # [12:31] <Callek> darktrojan: thats what he does :-P
- # [12:31] <Callek> but does someone want to be gentle in INVALID setting of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734842
- # [12:31] <Callek> I feel atm I would be much too abrupt
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- # [14:09] <glob> you'll get 'unable to update bugs' messages
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- # [14:14] <glandium> glob: ping
- # [14:14] <glob> glandium, pong
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- # [14:14] <glandium> glob: I received for the second time a "review cancelled" mail for a r+
- # [14:14] <glob> glandium, bug?
- # [14:14] <glandium> today it happened on bug 734812
- # [14:15] <glob> glandium, can you forward me the email, with the full headers please?
- # [14:15] <KaiRo> gah, I hope my bug comment is not lost in that message
- # [14:15] <glandium> it happened on bug 727959 before that. In both cases, it's froydnj
- # [14:16] <froydnj> may just be because froydnj is lame
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- # [14:17] <froydnj> ooo, shiny bugzilla update page
- # [14:17] <Callek> maybe froydnj should not be allowed to view/touch bugzilla
- # [14:17] <Callek> because when he does it breaks glandium's bugmail
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- # [14:18] <glandium> glob: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1515547
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- # [14:20] <froydnj> point of usage: are you supposed to flip the r? field on the splinter page, or the addl review field?
- # [14:20] <glob> glandium, that looks normal
- # [14:20] <glob> froydnj, flip
- # [14:20] <nigelb> glob: Is Tell-Us-More part of this release train?
- # [14:20] <nigelb> or does it need a sec review?
- # [14:20] <froydnj> because I might just be flipping the wrong one out of ignorance
- # [14:20] <glob> nigelb, we're not bound to the release train timing at all; in fact we do weekly "releases"
- # [14:20] <glandium> froydnj: you need to flip the one that is r? for you
- # [14:21] <nigelb> Oh.
- # [14:21] <glob> nigelb, correct; it needs a sec review before go-live
- # [14:21] <nigelb> glob: aww, okay :)
- # [14:21] <froydnj> glandium: ah, that's...strange. I was flipping the addl review, so that's probably what's breaking your bugmail
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- # [14:22] <glob> froydnj, indeed; the 'additional review' used for when you do your review, but think someone else should do an additional one
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- # [14:23] <glandium> froydnj: interesting. that sounds like a corner case, because bugzilla looks like it properly detects that you turn a r? into a r+
- # [14:23] <glandium> because the other message i receive is about that
- # [14:23] <glob> yeah, how bugzilla internally tracks flags is wrong and broken
- # [14:23] <glazou> hsivonen_: nevermind
- # [14:24] <glandium> glob: how surprising ;)
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- # [15:12] <KaiRo> bah, the more I read about people enthusiastically embracing github for open source projects, the more I'm disliking it - do people just not care that they are putting all the work into a closed-source centralistic system?
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- # [15:14] <gcp> I can see your stance, but git clones carry all their own history
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- # [15:14] <KaiRo> gcp: the source itself yes, not the issue tracking, pull request commenting, etc.
- # [15:14] <gcp> so "putting all the work" basically means "handling access control"
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- # [15:14] <gcp> oh, they're using it as bugzilla, too? thats worse
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- # [15:16] <KaiRo> gcp: browserid does, and socorro does all their review commenting there, but tracking bugs in bugzilla at least - most non-core-mozilla projects use all those offers more extenisvely, the way browserid does as well
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- # [15:18] <KaiRo> if it was only "I host another git clone there" (with a DVCS it doesn't matter that much what is considered "the main one"), I would say "ok, sure, why not" but it's the tools around it that are so seductive to people and that are closed-source and centralized
- # [15:19] <mcpherrin> KaiRo: Personally, I back up everything via their api (tools exist; mostly trivial to do so). Github is easy, functional, and "open enough" for me.
- # [15:19] <gcp> what's open about github?
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- # [15:21] <mcpherrin> gcp: I don't feel locked in. And they've open sourced "enough" code to deal with the data I get.
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- # [15:21] <mcpherrin> Yeah I'd be happier with an actually-open solution, but I don't know of one that doesn't suck.
- # [15:23] <mcpherrin> (That said, I wouldn't want to run anything mozilla off it)
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- # [15:23] <mcpherrin> Since mozilla has things like IT staff :P
- # [15:23] <nigelb> KaiRo: Most of webdev does review commenting on github.
- # [15:24] <nigelb> Actually, I only know of mozilla.org that's not on github.
- # [15:24] <mcpherrin> Obviously Mozilla should just buy github and open 'er up
- # [15:24] <nigelb> hehe
- # [15:25] <nigelb> The bits that we get locked is code review comments. Everything else doesn't really matter much.
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- # [15:30] <nigelb> Why is the documentation for locking prefs not easy to find? is it an unsupported feature?
- # [15:31] <curtisk> hmm...I am looking for a way to use my people account and not use irssi
- # [15:31] <bhearsum> curtisk: i think there are people using znc there
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- # [15:33] <curtisk> thanks nigelb, I will try there
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- # [15:47] <KaiRo> WTF? reCAPTCHA is always coming back with "The characters you entered don't match the word verification. Please try again." in all kinds of cases where I encounter it, no matter that I type exactly those random characters they title "words"!
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- # [15:51] <KaiRo> cers: looks like it
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- # [15:51] <KaiRo> whatever words stuff like "gnetword tulawn" should be :(
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- # [15:55] <bhearsum> lol
- # [15:56] <KaiRo> jtcranmer: possibly
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- # [16:10] <Ameya> hello All
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- # [16:11] <ttaubert> whimboo: huhu
- # [16:12] <whimboo> ttaubert: hossa! i have asked for a feedback via github. Not sure if you got it
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- # [16:12] <ttaubert> whimboo: yes, saw it. will do that
- # [16:12] <whimboo> cool. thanks
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- # [16:15] <Ameya> Is there a way to do such this in C....AddonManager.getAllAddons(function(addons) {alert(addons.filter(function(addon) {return addon.type == "extension"}).map(function(addon) {return addon.name + ": " + addon.getResourceURI().spec}).join("\n"))})
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- # [16:47] <Ameya> which JS file gets called when FF boots up...? I need to extract addon info from it....
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- # [16:49] <@smaug> many js files. browser.js for example
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- # [16:50] <Ameya> smaug: Ok... Can we write AddonManager.getAllAddons(function(addons)...in browsers.js??
- # [16:50] <@smaug> I don't know
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- # [17:00] <froydnj> Ameya: what are you really trying to do?
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- # [17:02] <Ameya> need to get resourceURLs of addons...
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- # [17:03] <froydnj> to what end, though?
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- # [17:03] <Ameya> Actually I have list of URLs of scripts that access nsICookieService ... I need to find which of these URLs belong to extensions...?
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- # [17:04] <Ameya> & i did that by modifying getService() in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSID.cpp
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- # [17:06] <Ameya> When I FF boots up.. I have to store extensionID & its URLs of all installed addons in file... then I will compare this file with list of URLs I got in xpcjsid.cpp
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- # [17:07] <Ameya> froydnj: got it?
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- # [17:07] <froydnj> Ameya: but why are you doing all this?
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- # [17:08] <Ameya> Ultimately I have to prevent addons from accessing history & cookies in rivate borwsing...
- # [17:08] <froydnj> Ameya: regardless, you can just add Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm"); to whatever .js file you like and go about your business
- # [17:08] <AryehGregor> heycam|away, pong.
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- # [17:09] <Ameya> froydnj: Ok... is there a way to get same functionality in c++?
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- # [17:11] <jdm> only through the JSAPI, but that would be really awful to do
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- # [17:11] <Ameya> means??
- # [17:12] <froydnj> there is probably a better way to do what you want to do
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- # [17:13] <Ameya> It would be most easy for me to if it is possible in C++... So I can write that code in getService() of XPCJSID.cpp
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- # [17:14] <Ameya> I also dont need to store in some temp file to compare it...
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- # [17:15] <Ameya> Any idea..??
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- # [17:18] <Ameya> Hello...??
- # [17:18] <jdm> Ameya: I don't see any way to get that data without using javascript objects. Using the JSAPI from C++ for it will be a huge pain, so I don't recommend that option.
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- # [17:18] <aki|buildduty> ehsan: pong
- # [17:18] <@khuey> the Addon Manager is designed to be used from JS
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- # [17:19] <@khuey> trying to use it from C++ is unlikely to succeed
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- # [17:19] <@ehsan> aki|buildduty: I'd like to generate nightlies on two consecutive revisions. how long should I wait after triggering the first one before I trigger the second one?
- # [17:19] <aki|buildduty> hm
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- # [17:21] <Ameya> another thought I read that .... chrme.menifest is read in one of the methods of nsChromeRegistry.cpp.... So can we check for installRDF which is there in every extension....By writing like installRDF.exists() ...??
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- # [17:22] <ericjung> Ameya: what are you trying to do?
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- # [17:23] <aki|buildduty> ehsan: not sure, would take some digging. maybe wait for it to show up in tbpl, maybe kick them off immediately to see if they merge?
- # [17:23] <Ameya> Somehow trying to get resourceURLs of installed addons...
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- # [17:24] <ericjung> Ameya: you mean resource definitions in chrome.manifest for addons that define them?
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- # [17:25] <Ameya> URLs like.... chrome:// or real paths..
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- # [17:26] <@ehsan> aki|buildduty: I think I'll just wait :/
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- # [17:28] <ericjung> Ameya: what's wrong with using https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Addons/Add-on_Manager#Accessing_installed_add-ons ?
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- # [17:31] <Ameya> ericjung: Nothing wrong actually I was looking for similar in C++...
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- # [17:33] <Ameya> ericjung: Can you tell me which JS file is executed when FF boots up...So that I can write there something like getAllAddons(function(addons){ addon.getResourceURI().spec }to get URLs...
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- # [17:37] <Ameya> ericjung: any idea..?
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- # [17:37] <ericjung> Ameya: no
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- # [17:37] <Ameya> whom should I ask?
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- # [17:41] <Ameya> ericjung: I think he is offline ....anyone else?
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- # [17:45] <jdm> Ameya: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#1216
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- # [17:54] <jdm> Ameya: no idea! I don't do much work in the front end.
- # [17:54] <Ameya> Ok let me try...
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- # [17:54] <Ameya> jdm: thnks...
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- # [18:15] <sierk> Hi! Can anybody tell me, if the current Candicate Builds number 7 and 8 of the upcoming FF 11 are related to the currenty found issue(s) in FF while being tested in Pwn2Own?
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- # [18:16] <@smaug> sierk: AFAIK no
- # [18:16] <@smaug> I *think* browser vendors haven't got the details about Pwn2Own bugs yet
- # [18:16] <sierk> So, build 7 and 8 do have other causes?
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- # [18:17] <bhearsum> sierk: what do you mean builds 7 and 8?
- # [18:17] <bhearsum> and no, we don't have details on the pwn2own bugs yet
- # [18:17] <sierk> smaug: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/researchers-hack-into-newest-firefox-with-zero-day-flaw/10663
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- # [18:18] <sierk> bhearsum: sorry, not builds. Beta 7 and Beta 8.
- # [18:18] <bhearsum> ah
- # [18:18] <@smaug> sierk: yes?
- # [18:18] <sierk> bhearsum: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/
- # [18:18] <@khuey> sierk: we're aware of it
- # [18:18] <@khuey> sierk: we follow this stuff *very* closely
- # [18:18] <bhearsum> yeah, those two were builds that address some graphics issues
- # [18:19] <dao> smaug: as far as I know google fixed chrome within 24 hours
- # [18:19] <@smaug> dao: they haven't fix the bug
- # [18:19] <gcp> that was for pwnium issue
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- # [18:19] <gcp> not for pwn2own
- # [18:19] <@khuey> dao: google fixed the vulns they got in a separate competition where they got the exploit immediately
- # [18:19] <sierk> khuey: Any bug number or notice about it in a Mozilla Wiki entry or discussion script?
- # [18:19] <@khuey> dao: afaik we don't have the exploit code yet
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- # [18:19] <@khuey> sierk: no, afaik we're waiting for ZDI to give us the exploit code
- # [18:19] <@smaug> dao: https://pwnium.appspot.com/ about Pwn2Own "(Note: we have NOT received details on either bug)"
- # [18:20] <philor> but it's good to see just how well pwnium will work out for Google
- # [18:20] <sierk> khuey: OK.
- # [18:20] <@khuey> sierk: once we get that there will be a bug, but it will be security-sensitive until it's fixed
- # [18:20] <@khuey> so you won't be able to see it
- # [18:20] <sierk> khuey: OK
- # [18:20] <@khuey> philor: their "oh this bug isn't really in Chrome" stuff is entertaining
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- # [18:21] <edmorley> Hi Ms2ger :-)
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- # [18:25] <philor> wesj: it burns, it burns!
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- # [18:25] <wesj> philor: grrr... i just built it here. wth. looking
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- # [18:27] <Ms2ger> Evening edmorley :)
- # [18:27] <jtcranmer> khuey: link?
- # [18:27] <jtcranmer> (for bug isn't really in chrome)
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- # [18:29] <philor> Google says that any exploit that involves the Flash plugin that they ship and that they install by default isn't actually their bug
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- # [18:29] <dougt> philor: well played?
- # [18:29] <philor> so, "any article where anyone from Google talks about any Vupen exploit of Chrome"
- # [18:29] <@khuey> jtcranmer: yeah, pretty much read any press on this that quotes google ...
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- # [18:30] <Ms2ger> We should claim that all the bugs in SpiderMonkey aren't ours either :)
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- # [18:31] <@smaug> yeah, that is silly. Should we say that exploits involving for example libpng aren't our bugs
- # [18:31] <@smaug> Ms2ger: that might be harder :)
- # [18:31] <Ms2ger> Or blame everything on skia :)
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- # [18:31] <Fallen> clever, if its not our bug maybe someone else will fix it and we get more contributors…is this the new contributor engagement? ;-)
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- # [18:32] <clever> Fallen: ?
- # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Hah
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- # [18:32] <Fallen> j/k :)
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- # [18:33] <jtcranmer> Google ships it, so they're responsible for regressing it
- # [18:33] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, HERESY! That almost sounds like common sense!
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- # [18:37] <@ted> wow
- # [18:37] <@ted> why is my win32 nightly update 19.7MB?
- # [18:37] <@ted> are our full MARs that large now?
- # [18:37] <@khuey> because bloat
- # [18:37] <@ted> don't we compress those goddamned things?
- # [18:37] <mbrubeck> funny, since the full install is only 16MB http://nightly.mozilla.org/
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- # [18:37] <@ted> srsly
- # [18:38] <@ted> probably 7-zip vs. bzip2
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- # [18:38] <bhearsum> huh
- # [18:38] <bhearsum> that sucks
- # [18:38] <mbrubeck> Go complain to sewardj. :)
- # [18:38] <@ted> hah
- # [18:38] <bhearsum> let's just do pave over installs instead of complete MARs from now on
- # [18:38] <@ted> i guess we could feasibly use some other compression method
- # [18:38] <@ted> but rolling that out would be a pain
- # [18:39] <@ted> since you'd have to have an updated updater to update
- # [18:39] <bhearsum> yeah, i'd have to be two step
- # [18:39] <mak> is someone backing out wesj already?
- # [18:39] <mbrubeck> mak: wesj is working on it.
- # [18:39] <mak> thanks
- # [18:39] <@ted> the linux mars are ~18/19MB
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- # [18:39] <@ted> so at least we have platform parity
- # [18:39] <mbrubeck> wesj: If you're working on a fix, can we post a quick backout first?
- # [18:40] <@ted> and the mac complete is 37MB
- # [18:40] <wesj> mbrubeck: sure. its just a problem with some tests. just waiting for this build to finish.
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- # [18:41] <wesj> mbrubeck: have to build XUL and native, which is taking a bit...
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- # [18:42] <mbrubeck> Hmm, can't cleanly back out 718760 alone
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- # [18:42] <wesj> mbrubeck: yeah... that's what i hate about these. they're all intertwined, you can back them all out if you want
- # [18:42] <wesj> or i can push this and we can see if it works
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- # [18:44] <mbrubeck> wesj: I'll back everything out now, and you can push after your local builds finish.
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- # [18:44] <glandium> smaug: google must have, since, reportedly, the "5-minutes" chrome hack was fixed 24 hours later
- # [18:45] <cpeterson> Question about nightly builds: Why are Mac builds on the Nightly and Aurora channels ~130 MB, but the Release channel builds are only ~80 MB?
- # [18:45] * glandium should read more backlog before answering
- # [18:45] <@smaug> glandium: no
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- # [18:45] <@smaug> glandium: the Pwn2Own bug is not fixed
- # [18:45] <@smaug> in chrome
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- # [18:47] <glandium> ted: about the updater update, i mentioned it a while ago, but we should support a way to upgrade the updater kind of indepently
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- # [18:47] <glandium> +den
- # [18:47] <bhearsum> why?
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- # [18:47] <bhearsum> we could already ship a mar that only updates updater.exe....
- # [18:48] <bhearsum> (it would still dependent on the product to download/initiate it, though)
- # [18:48] <@ted> cpeterson: we don't strip debug symbols from nightly builds
- # [18:48] <@ted> cpeterson: it makes it so you can run Shark on them usefully, for example
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- # [18:49] <cpeterson> ted, but in the Nightly ftp directories, I see two Mac .dmg builds: firefox.mac-shark.dmg and just firefox.dmg. Does the mac-shark build have additional debug info?
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- # [18:49] <glandium> bhearsum: because you can't change the mar format until everyone is using the new updater
- # [18:50] <bhearsum> you can provide a jump off point
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- # [18:50] <@ted> cpeterson: the mac-shark build has one additional option, AFAIK: --enable-shark
- # [18:50] <bhearsum> eg, everyone updates to 12.0, which has the new updater, then goes to the latest version from there
- # [18:50] <@ted> which adds some content-accessible APIs to start/stop profiling
- # [18:50] <cpeterson> ted, good to know. Thanks!
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- # [18:51] <pallanikumaran> hello people
- # [18:51] <glandium> bhearsum: why should people upgrade to an intermediate version?
- # [18:52] <bhearsum> because they need the new updater :P
- # [18:52] <bhearsum> obviously, that's not ideal
- # [18:52] <glandium> i mean, it's a pretty terrible user experience
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- # [18:52] <bhearsum> we could do fallbacks or something maybe
- # [18:52] <bhearsum> send the updater version along with the firefox one, serve an appropriate mar
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- # [18:53] <bhearsum> i guess i'm partly reacting to how risky it feels to do this
- # [18:53] <pallanikumaran> i am trying to create a patch. but i am getting "abort: unknown revision 'qbase'!" when i he up qbase
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- # [18:55] <mbrubeck> pallanikumaran: That probably means you have no mq patches currently applied.
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- # [18:56] <gavin> do our docs suggest doing "hg up qbase"?
- # [18:56] <gavin> I don't really understand why you'd ever want to do that
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- # [18:57] <pallanikumaran> Here is my predicament: I did not use mecurial queues when i did the changes to the file
- # [18:58] <pallanikumaran> i created all the patch files using patch
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- # [18:59] <pallanikumaran> and then when i want to sumbit it for a review, the reviewer asked the patch to be prepared for check in
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- # [18:59] <mbrubeck> pallanikumaran: In that case I would apply the patches, and then do "hg qnew <patch-name> -m <commit-message>"
- # [19:00] <mbrubeck> Then you can upload the patch file from your .hg/patches directory or use hg export to print it
- # [19:00] <wesj> mbrubeck: ok. here we go again...
- # [19:00] <pallanikumaran> i saved the changes into ta patch file and did a qrefresh, how do i re-apply the patch
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- # [19:01] <mbrubeck> wesj: Got your fingers crossed? :)
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- # [19:01] <gavin> pallanikumaran: we need to figure out what state you're in at the moment
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- # [19:02] <gavin> pallanikumaran: does your patch show up in hg qseries output?/
- # [19:02] <Fallen> where did http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/threads/nsIDOMWorkers.idl go? I'm looking for nsIWorkerGlobalScope...
- # [19:02] <Fallen> and that URL is referenced from MDN
- # [19:02] <pallanikumaran> gavin: how do i do that?
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- # [19:02] <gavin> pallanikumaran: just run |hg qseries| and look at the output
- # [19:03] <pallanikumaran> yes there are. bug-701967-patch
- # [19:03] <pallanikumaran> 701967.patch
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- # [19:04] <pallanikumaran> gavin: i think only the 701967.patch is the correct one. How do i remove the other one
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- # [19:04] <gavin> there are two patches that show up?
- # [19:05] <pallanikumaran> gavin: actually there are three. one is a another bug i am working on
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- # [19:05] <gavin> pallanikumaran: |hg qapplied| will show you which patches are applied
- # [19:05] <gavin> you can delete patches with |hg qrm <patchname>| if they are not applied
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- # [19:06] <gavin> hg you need to unapply them, you can use hg qpop or hg qgoto
- # [19:06] <pallanikumaran> gavin: none of the patches are applied
- # [19:06] <gavin> ok, so you can just hg qrm the bad one
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- # [19:07] <pallanikumaran> gavin: i have removed the bad one. what do i do next?
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- # [19:11] <Mossop> taras: Do we have anything in telemetry that might help us see how many users are crashing on shutdown?
- # [19:11] <gavin> pallanikumaran: generally, you would apply it (using hg qpush or hg qgoto), and then |hg export qtip| to export it in patch format
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- # [19:12] <pallanikumaran> gavin: is there a difference between qpush and qgoto?
- # [19:12] <@ted> hrm
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- # [19:12] <@ted> Mossop: we should probably add an annotation for that in crash reports
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- # [19:12] <@ted> stick a Shutdown=1 annotation when we kick off the shutdown process
- # [19:12] <Mossop> I like it
- # [19:13] <@ted> file it?
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- # [19:13] <taras> Mossop: sorta
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- # [19:14] <gavin> pallanikumaran: |hg help qgoto| and |hg help qpush| should describe the differences
- # [19:14] <taras> Mossop: we have one that indicates prevision shutdown was ok
- # [19:14] <Mossop> ted: Where do crash reporting bugs go these days?
- # [19:14] <gavin> qgoto takes an argument about where in the queue you want to go
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- # [19:14] <gavin> qpush just applies the next patch
- # [19:14] <@ted> Mossop: i'd file that one in toolkit somewhere
- # [19:14] <taras> Mossop: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/telemetry/TelemetryHistograms.h#154
- # [19:14] <@ted> or core or whatever
- # [19:14] <@ted> annotations should go in the component they're related to
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- # [19:15] <Mossop> ted: Filed bug 734945
- # [19:16] <@ted> cool
- # [19:16] <@ted> it's probably trivial to implement
- # [19:16] <@ted> just pick a spot to designate as "shutdown", and annotate there
- # [19:16] <Mossop> Yep, gonna see if I can convince someone to do it
- # [19:16] <Ms2ger> gavin, note, hg qpush foo goes to the patch foo too
- # [19:16] <@ted> Mossop: oh right, you're a manager now, you can't write code :-P
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- # [19:17] <gavin> Ms2ger: only recently!
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- # [19:17] <@ted> Mossop: unrelated, but my daughter loves Dr Seuss' "Too Many Daves", and every time i read it i think about your team
- # [19:17] <gavin> --move is also handy
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- # [19:19] <Ms2ger> gavin, really? It's done for as long as I can remember
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- # [19:19] <Mossop> ted: Less about me being a manager and more about still trying to finish up patches for bugs I started weeks ago :(
- # [19:19] <@ted> i hear you
- # [19:20] <@ted> but i have a better excuse than you
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- # [19:20] <Mossop> cuter excuse maybe ;)
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- # [19:28] <pallanikumaran> gavin: thanks
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- # [19:29] <pallanikumaran> gavin: what is the procedure i should follow when i want to start on my next bug
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- # [19:33] <Mossop> bsmedberg: Would you object to us putting a simple zip version of the OSX XULRunner runtime on ftp as well as the current dmg+pkg version?
- # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: heh, I have a patch!
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- # [19:33] <Mossop> Great, that saves me writing one :)
- # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: I'm removing the DMG/pkg version entirely, since it isn't something we want anyone to use
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- # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> and just shipping a .tar.bz2 version
- # [19:33] <Mossop> Sounds good to me
- # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> I need to write a README file
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- # [19:36] <gavin> paoletto: generally, hg qnew
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- # [19:36] <timeless> Mossop: my desktop's session is always run in safe mode :)
- # [19:36] <timeless> because it starts in safe mode, and i either force kill it, or get an update notification
- # [19:37] <timeless> the updates come back and say "i want to run in safe mode, pick stuff to disable" :(
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- # [19:37] <timeless> all i want is to restore my session and get out of safe mode :(
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- # [19:43] <timeless> mbrubeck: fwiw you need some quotes after -m around <commit-message> ;-)
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- # [19:44] <timeless> Mossop: um, i'm not a big exit'ing person. dunno. i don't trust exit not to do stupid things :)
- # [19:44] <Ms2ger> timeless, not if it's only one word! :)
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- # [19:46] <timeless> Ms2ger: that wouldn't be an acceptable commit message per mozilla policy
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- # [19:46] <timeless> (there was context)
- # [19:47] <timeless> :)
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- # [19:47] <testman> Hello. Just one thing. I have noticed that you added "browser.newtab.url", and I am thankful for that, but it has small problem. When new tab is loaded, cursor focus is on URL bar instead of page, so when user starts typing, he writes at the end of URL address instead of some field on webpage (like Google Search)
- # [19:48] <testman> can this be fixed?
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- # [19:48] <testman> or at least controlled by user, where the focus will be?
- # [19:48] <mbrubeck> testman: Is that true even if the page sets focus on load?
- # [19:49] <mbrubeck> testman: For example by using <input autofocus>
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- # [19:49] <testman> my "browser.autofocus" is set on True
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- # [19:50] <testman> same thing with False
- # [19:50] <testman> using latest Nightly build
- # [19:50] <taras> Mossop: also, see 723802
- # [19:50] <mbrubeck> testman: I mean in the source of the new tab page
- # [19:50] <testman> oh
- # [19:51] <loadbang> anyone finding that Facebook makes Firefox UI feel laggy and slow?
- # [19:51] <loadbang> Release version on Mac here, haven't tried Windows.
- # [19:52] <mbrubeck> testman: Hmm, looks like setting autofocus in the new tab page doesn't help... I just tried browser.newtab.url="http://google.com" and it still ends up with the urlbar focused
- # [19:53] <testman> that is my problem :)
- # [19:53] <mbrubeck> Yeah, that seems like a bug.
- # [19:53] <testman> brb restart
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- # [19:54] <aja> tabindex look right?
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- # [19:55] <testman> but wait, when I load www.w3schools.com/html5/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_autofocus in newtab focus jumps on first field
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- # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Bah, w3fools
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- # [19:56] <testman> so then is Google one that does not request focus or is that bug in Nightly?
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- # [19:57] <Wes> wait. autofocus exists? I can stop typing document.getElementByTagName("INPUT")[0].focus() in every document?
- # [19:57] * Wes needs to read up on HTML5 again
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- # [19:57] <Ms2ger> HTML Living Standard, you mean :)
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- # [19:59] <Waldo> Ms2ger: Wes is a Director, so HTML5 is the appropriate buzzword for him to use ;-)
- # [19:59] <Ms2ger> Hah
- # [19:59] <Waldo> mm, specs and politics
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- # [20:11] <Wes> Waldo: LOL - I'm just dancing in the land of "We don't support IE<9 anymore". It's so .... refreshing!
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- # [20:15] <Waldo> also, </3 that newsgroup/mailing-list mirroring of threading is so broken
- # [20:15] <Ms2ger> ^
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- # [20:17] <jtcranmer> Waldo: blame mailman
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- # [20:17] <Ms2ger> Let's blame Google
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- # [20:21] <Ms2ger> philor++
- # [20:21] <loadbang> I have a file places.sqlite-wal that is 2.4GB in my profile
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- # [20:23] <Ms2ger> mak, ^
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- # [20:24] <gcp> "because sqlite"
- # [20:25] <mak> loadbang: not usual at all, also becase we enforce a limit. I suspect you have some really bad add-on
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- # [20:40] <mbrubeck> Waldo: I had read "Yes, we do" as responding to "we need to think more than just the current state of the web" (rather than to the question that immediately preceded it, which I admit is the more obvious reading). I wonder if that was just generous interpretation on my part...
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- # [20:44] <wesj> mbrubeck: did i break android forever or something?
- # [20:44] <jprmc> jesup: ping
- # [20:45] <mbrubeck> wesj: No, infra problems
- # [20:45] <mbrubeck> wesj: Apparently all the tegras went offline or something.
- # [20:45] <jprmc> jesup: khuey can help out on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733002 - can you two sync up?
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- # [20:46] <bhearsum> jesup: can you have a look at the last comment of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734349, and see if i'm correct that we're done in that bug?
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- # [20:53] <Waldo> mbrubeck: there's something to be said for generous interpretation, definitely
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- # [21:00] <joe> how do I clobber windows debug builds? is it just covered in "build"?
- # [21:00] <@khuey> rm -rf objdir
- # [21:00] <@khuey> same as every other platform
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- # [21:01] <joe> khuey: I meant https://build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=maple
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- # [21:01] <jesup> bhearsum: done
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- # [21:02] <@khuey> joe: oh
- # [21:02] <@khuey> leak-test
- # [21:02] <@khuey> or something
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- # [21:02] <joe> ok
- # [21:02] <joe> kats clobbered the world anyways, so we're cool
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- # [21:04] <jesup> khuey: when you've got a good point to chat, ping me. We generally chat in #media, though anywhere will do
- # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0fe720174e5d - Paul Rouget - Bug 717923 - Use an icon for the inspect button; r=dao
- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8d3737bf2bb2 - Panos Astithas - Bug 731277 - Add support for using fn.displayName as the function name in stack frames; r=rcampbell
- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/849150e0fb09 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 734314 - "Unwrapped getBoolPref call causes dbg-server.jsm to fail to load in B2G" [r=past]
- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1d8fdbc69641 - Blake Winton - Bug 704223 - styles added in data urls are displayed badly in the rule view; r=prouget
- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/503a8074e7fe - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 703643 - Be able to copy from the rules view; r=prouget
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- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6946244becb4 - Tim Taubert - Bug 734043 - Error: node.parentNode is null when I click x button of thumbnail quickly in newTab page; r=dietrich
- # [21:05] <bwinton> firebot: Hurray! :)
- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6dea789aeb4b - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 705276 - Split style inspector CSS between content & document CSS; r=prouget
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- # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/04f2053a28eb - Rob Campbell - Bug 729220 - Allow editing of attribute names in the HTML panel of the Page Inspector; r=prouget
- # [21:05] <firebot> bwinton: iirc, :) is a normal smiley face
- # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Highly relevant: http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qgqykgi11rqvy12o1_1280.jpg
- # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Bas, ^ :)
- # [21:06] <Bas> Ms2ger: Non-accelerated backends aren't consistent either ;)
- # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Shh :)
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- # [21:07] <bhearsum> jesup: thanks!
- # [21:07] <nigelb> where is the right place to ask questions about about:memory?
- # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Bas, got anybody around who feels like removing a canvas2d implementation, accidentally? :)
- # [21:07] <nigelb> (mostly, about how to read it)
- # [21:08] <Ms2ger> nigelb, here, I guess
- # [21:08] <Ms2ger> Or whereever njn is
- # [21:08] <jesup> bhearsum: thank *you*!
- # [21:08] <bhearsum> yw
- # [21:08] <nigelb> Ah, so, I don't see all tabs on there. Should I be seeing that?
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- # [21:08] <jesup> nigelb: usually #memshrink
- # [21:08] <Bas> Ms2ger: What did you mean there? :)
- # [21:08] <nigelb> thanks!
- # [21:08] <nigelb> I also figued now how to see all tabs. Lol.
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- # [21:09] <jesup> nigelb: but realize njn is in Australia, so I wouldn't expect to see him before 6 or 7pm ish
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- # [21:10] <nigelb> jesup: 6 or 7pm ish where? :)
- # [21:10] * nigelb is in India
- # [21:10] <Waldo> jesup meant Internet Swatch Time, of course
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- # [21:11] <nigelb> So, PDT?
- # [21:11] <Ms2ger> Bas, that having two implementations of the API (one Azure, one not) is bad for my limited sanity
- # [21:11] <jesup> nigelb: Sorry, ET :-)
- # [21:11] <Bas> Ms2ger: It is bad.
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- # [21:11] <jesup> EDT to be precise
- # [21:11] <Bas> Ms2ger: We're working on it :)
- # [21:11] <Bas> There's nothing we can do about having a transitionary period.
- # [21:11] <nigelb> HA, thanks :)
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- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> One that takes a decade? :)
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- # [21:18] <@ehsan> BenWa: why does your cleopatra instance no longer work?
- # [21:19] <BenWa> ehsan: Are you sure it's not that the nightly is broken?
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- # [21:19] <BenWa> let me look at your problem
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- # [21:28] <aceman> hi
- # [21:28] <smaug> ++Ms2ger
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- # [21:29] <Ms2ger> ++peterv
- # [21:29] <aceman> In the file browser/locales/en-US/chrome/overrides/netError.dtd there is hardcoded 'Firefox' name in serveral strings. These texts are used on Firefox error pages. Is there a bug for that?
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- # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Dunno
- # [21:32] <Ms2ger> If there isn't, can you file?
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- # [21:34] <smontagu> aceman: there is bug 336029, which mentions netError in comment 12
- # [21:34] <Ms2ger> heycam|away, ping
- # [21:34] <smontagu> but not anywhere else so I don't know if it's the same thing
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- # [21:37] <aceman> it is taht bug, thanks
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- # [21:40] <philor> mbrubeck: got any idea which of 20 pushes would have broken a testPasswordUndeletion robocop test?
- # [21:41] <philor> wesj: oh, hello!
- # [21:41] <Ms2ger> Back it all out
- # [21:41] <Ms2ger> Unless I'm in the range
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- # [21:41] <philor> wesj: Error getting method - java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: ensureNSSLibsLoaded
- # [21:42] <smaug> ugh, links to dxr
- # [21:42] <wesj> philor: thanks
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- # [21:45] <mak> mbrubeck++
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- # [21:50] <philor> aja: yeah, right after asking I scrolled down two pushes from the orange and saw that wesj had just added it :)
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- # [21:51] <philor> mbrubeck: that Win64 build failure on inbound? don't be surprised if you hit it on m-c, since one of the things you just merged switched Win64 to using VS2010
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- # [21:54] <bhearsum> lol
- # [21:54] <bhearsum> i really don't understand that phrase, and i'm probably happier that way
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- # [21:57] <smontagu> phylax is greek for shield if that helps
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- # [21:57] <philor> "Prophylactic: A preventive measure. The word comes from the Greek for an advance guard"
- # [21:58] <philor> (an advance guard with shields, as it happens)
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- # [21:58] <smontagu> maybe a metaphorical shield: "shield in front" == advance guard
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- # [22:06] <mcot> ls
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- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> accessible build config dbm extensions ipc Makefile.in modules parser security testing widget
- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> aclocal.m4 caps configure docshell gfx js media mozglue probes services toolkit xpcom
- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> allmakefiles.sh chrome configure.in dom hal layout memory netwerk profile src tools xpfe
- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> b2g client.mk content editor image LEGAL mfbt nsprpub rdf startupcache uriloader xulrunner
- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> browser client.py db embedding intl LICENSE mobile other-licenses README.txt storage view
- # [22:08] <mbrubeck> go north
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- # [22:09] <Ms2ger> You go into docshell
- # [22:09] <Ms2ger> You are eaten by a grue
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- # [22:09] <mcot> anyone know whats going on here?
- # [22:09] <Pike> I went down south, and now I'm stuck in mfbt
- # [22:09] <mcot> make[1]: Entering directory `/c/esr10src/objdir/dom/src/storage'
- # [22:09] <mcot> c:/mozilla-build/python/python2.7.exe /c/esr10src/config/JarMaker.py \
- # [22:09] <mcot> -j ../../../dist/bin/chrome \
- # [22:09] <mcot> -t /c/esr10src -f flat -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -D_IMPL_NS_LAYOUT -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XP
- # [22:09] <mcot> T_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES -DOSTYPE=\"WINNT6.1\
- # [22:09] <mcot> " -DOSARCH=WINNT -DEXCLUDE_SKIA_DEPENDENCIES -DUNICODE -D_UNICODE -DNOMINMAX -D_CRT_RAND_S -DCERT_CHAIN_PARA_HAS_EXTRA_
- # [22:09] <mcot> FIELDS -D_SECURE_ATL -DCHROMIUM_BUILD -DU_STATIC_IMPLEMENTATION -DOS_WIN=1 -DWIN32 -D_WIN32 -D_WINDOWS -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_
- # [22:10] <mcot> MEAN -DCOMPILER_MSVC -D_CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS=1 -D_CRT_NONSTDC_NO_WARNINGS=1 -DHAVE_SEH_EXCEPTIONS=1 -DHAVE_WINSDKVER_
- # [22:10] <mcot> H=1 -DMOZ_MSVC_STL_WRAP__Throw=1 -DWINVER=0x502 -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x502 -D_WIN32_IE=0x0500 -DMOZ_WINSDK_TARGETVER=0x0601000
- # [22:10] <mcot> 0 -DMOZ_NTDDI_WS03=0x05020000 -DMOZ_NTDDI_LONGHORN=0x06000000 -DMOZ_NTDDI_WIN7=0x06010000 -DHAVE_IO_H=1 -DHAVE_SETBUF=1
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- # [22:10] <mcot> -DHAVE_ISATTY=1 -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DMOZILLA_VERSION=\"10.0.1\" -DMOZILLA_VERSION_U=10.0.1 -DHAVE_SNPRINTF=1 -D_WINDO
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- # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Pike, at least that's a nice place :)
- # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Thanks, gavin
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- # [22:10] <mwu> killer not nearly blood thirsty enough
- # [22:10] <Pike> Ms2ger: yeah, even though Jever is actually up north, but that was taken by docshell :-(
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- # [22:18] <mcot> so in trying to build dom I am getting "res/hiddenWindow.html not found"
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- # [22:18] <mcot> http://pastebin.com/Fumsu9m1
- # [22:18] <Ms2ger> Fascinating
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- # [22:21] <mcot> not sure why the path is all messed up
- # [22:21] <jdm> why is it looking for the hidden window in dom/src/storage?
- # [22:22] <jdm> that's weird
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- # [22:27] <mcot> I did an incremental build and just wanted to rebuild dom
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- # [22:30] <mcot> just make
- # [22:31] <jdm> in what directory?
- # [22:31] <mcot> from my objdir/dom
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- # [22:35] <mcot> sourcedirs = ['c:\\esr10src\\dom\\src\\storage']
- # [22:35] <mcot> topsourcedir = c:\esr10src
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- # [22:38] <mcot> something seems a little weird in JarMarker.py
- # [22:38] <mcot> JarMaker*
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- # [22:39] <mcot> elif src.startswith('/'): # refers to a path relative to topsourcedir, use that as base
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- # [22:40] <jaws> is there a way to send a patch to tryserver that runs based on the current mozilla-aurora trunk?
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- # [22:41] <mcot> that seems like it should be the other way around... relative path if src does not start with '/'
- # [22:41] <nthomas> jaws: if not, you can just take your aurora repo, mq the patches and push to try as normal
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- # [22:41] <jaws> oh ok, i didn't know if that would work. cool, thanks!
- # [22:42] <nthomas> yeah, it just pushes all the history you need at the same time
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- # [22:43] <tn> taras, i don't know if the benefits we'll get from 702463 and related are p1 worthy
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- # [22:44] <taras> tn: not janking during scrolling?
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- # [22:44] <gavin> fabrice: I think the patch you attached is missing something? I don't see any uses of the timeout pref
- # [22:44] <gavin> fabrice: I think it's unnecessary to make that a pref, fwiw
- # [22:44] <taras> i suppose we have multiple causes of jank during scrolling, this is just one candidate
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- # [22:45] <gavin> fabrice: also it might be a good idea to check what geolocation does for its failure callbacks
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- # [22:45] <tn> taras, yeah, there are other reasons
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- # [22:45] <gavin> dougt might know offhand
- # [22:45] <fabrice> gavin: I forgot to hg add the pref file. SO just hardcoding 30s would be enough?
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- # [22:45] <gavin> fabrice: yeah, seems fine to me
- # [22:45] <fabrice> ok
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- # [22:46] <taras> but we do have bigger things to fix
- # [22:47] <tn> taras, yeah, this isn't too much work, so we should do it, but there are bigger problems
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- # [22:50] <kaie> when is the last chance to get into ff 13 via mozilla-inbound landing? (or are we already past that point)
- # [22:50] <kaie> (not urgent, not curious)
- # [22:50] <@khuey> kaie: early tuesday morning
- # [22:50] <kaie> thanks!
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- # [22:51] <kaie> is that the new PR_TRUE ?
- # [22:51] <@khuey> no
- # [22:52] <@khuey> it's some sort of NS_ABORT_IF_FALSE lookalike
- # [22:52] <gavin> # define MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(expr) MOZ_ASSERT((expr))
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- # [22:59] <mcsmurf> hi, someone happens to know if the mitchell [at] mozilla.org address should still work?
- # [22:59] <mcsmurf> I sent a mail to her, but now I saw she uses @mozilla.com now
- # [22:59] <mcsmurf> got no mail bounce though so far
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- # [23:00] <AryehGregor> ehsan, is there a bug to make the last two parameters to execCommand() optional?
- # [23:00] * AryehGregor doesn't see one
- # [23:01] <dholbert> mcsmurf, her mozillians.org page lists the mozilla.org option you mentioned
- # [23:01] <mcsmurf> ok :)
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- # [23:02] <@dolske> blizzard: upboat!
- # [23:04] <NeilAway> smaug: during event dispatch, does Gecko take a snapshot of all the listeners on an element and then call them? do you know if it always used to do this?
- # [23:04] <mcsmurf> btw: I think it's quite alarming that all three major browser got hacked in that pwn2own competition
- # [23:04] <mcsmurf> software security is quite difficult to do right it looks like..
- # [23:05] <@smaug> NeilAway: it creates event target chain before real dispatch
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- # [23:05] <@smaug> all the elements are kept alive
- # [23:05] <@smaug> and gecko < 1.9 didn't do that
- # [23:05] <@smaug> and it was against the spec
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- # [23:05] <@khuey> mcsmurf: indeed :-(
- # [23:05] <@khuey> C++ ftl
- # [23:06] <@smaug> NeilAway: er
- # [23:06] <@smaug> NeilAway: you asked about listeners..
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- # [23:06] <@smaug> oops :)
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- # [23:07] <@smaug> NeilAway: at least it used to take a snapshot
- # [23:07] <@smaug> but I'm not sure anymore...
- # [23:08] <@smaug> hmm, or no
- # [23:08] * @smaug tries to remember
- # [23:08] <@smaug> NeilAway: look at the cvs blame
- # [23:08] <NeilAway> smaug: oh, that far back? nm then
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- # [23:11] <NeilAway> mcot: the / means that it's relative from the topsrcdir rather than the depth, think of it like a chroot
- # [23:11] <mcot> yah I saw that
- # [23:11] <@bsmedberg> inbound is going to be merged before the uplift tomorrow, right?
- # [23:11] <@khuey> yes
- # [23:12] <mcot> I just did a quick hack on the script to force it to be dom/src rather than dom/src/storage
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- # [23:12] <mcot> res/hiddenWindow.html is relative to dom/src
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- # [23:15] <bholley> dveditz: when filing a new bug, what's the difference between 'Security-Sensitive Core Bug' and 'Many users could be harmed by this security problem: it should be kept hidden from the public until it is resolved. '?
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- # [23:19] <@dveditz> bholley: one everyone can see, the other you can see because you're in that group
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- # [23:19] <bholley> dveditz: by 'everyone' do you mean 'everyone in the security group'?
- # [23:20] <@dveditz> also the generic checkbox ("many users could be harmed...") defaults to different security groups in different products. in Core/Firefox/etc it's the same as core-security, but in bugzilla it would default to bugzilla-security
- # [23:20] <@dveditz> no, everyone with an account can see the "Many users could be harmed..." checkbox when filing a bug
- # [23:20] <bholley> dveditz: oh, I see. That's what i was wondering
- # [23:20] <@dveditz> that's how we get security bugs from non-insiders
- # [23:20] <bholley> dveditz: ohhhh, you mean 'I can see the option'
- # [23:21] <bholley> not 'i can see the bug'
- # [23:21] <@dveditz> the "Security-Sensitive Core Bug" checkbox is only visible if you are in that group. Happens to mean the same thing in the Client products
- # [23:21] <@dveditz> doesn't matter which one you check
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- # [23:23] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: not that I know of
- # [23:23] <gps> I wonder how many CPU cycles, GC pressure are wasted by extensions (like adblock or ghostery) performing URL/content pattern matching using non-optimal algorithms
- # [23:23] <AryehGregor> ehsan, well, now there is, and I r?'d you on the patch. :)
- # [23:24] <@ehsan> good
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- # [23:26] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: r=me with comments
- # [23:27] <AryehGregor> :)
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- # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: I think it would be better for the back-end to handle the timeouts
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- # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: can we just handle this separately in a followup bug?
- # [23:31] <gavin> I don't think we need to block the UI landing on it
- # [23:31] <fabrice> gavin: so, I revert to using a secondary action?
- # [23:31] <gavin> fabrice: no I think it makes sense to remove thes econdary action, but lets not do any of the timer stuff
- # [23:32] <fabrice> so the user can never deny install?
- # [23:32] <gavin> right
- # [23:32] <gavin> is that really a big problem?
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- # [23:32] <gavin> (I can see that it's a problem, but I'm not sure it's a "need to be solved before the UI can land" kind of problem)
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- # [23:33] <fabrice> I'm not sure how bad it is
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- # [23:33] <gavin> the goal is to land this UI today, right?
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- # [23:35] <fabrice> yes
- # [23:36] <gavin> does anything bad happen if the backend doesn't get a "denied" response?
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- # [23:37] <fabrice> gavin: nothing bad. The UI may use it, but that doesn't break anything
- # [23:37] <gavin> yeah ok
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- # [23:38] <fabrice> eg, on https://apps.mozillalabs.com/appdir/ the install button turns into a throbeer that is reset to either an "installed" label when installed, or back to the "Install" button if installation is denied
- # [23:38] <fabrice> gavin: ^
- # [23:38] <gps> beer_debt[Mossop]++
- # [23:38] <gavin> ok
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- # [23:41] <surkov> smaug: ping
- # [23:41] <gavin> fabrice: nsGeolocationRequest::SetTimeoutTimer seems to be what is used for geolocation
- # [23:42] <gavin> I think it makes sense to be consistent, and do something similar for the webapps API backend
- # [23:42] <gavin> I think it's fine to land the UI with this bug, for 13
- # [23:42] <gavin> and we can follow up and fix the timeout stuff on aurora
- # [23:42] <fabrice> gavin: ok!
- # [23:43] <fabrice> do you want to see the final patch?
- # [23:43] <gavin> sure
- # [23:43] <gavin> hmm, that SetTimeoutTimer might be something else
- # [23:43] <@smaug> surkov: pong
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- # [23:43] <gavin> anyways, we can look into it further
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- # [23:43] <Waldo> khuey: MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(expr) is basically |bool _cond = expr; MOZ_ASSERT(_cond);|
- # [23:43] <surkov> smaug: could you look at bug 421242 please?
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- # [23:44] <gavin> oh, geolocation has an explicit timeout parameter as part of the API
- # [23:44] <Waldo> khuey: the JS engine uses the idea all over the place, for things that are fallible but known in context not to be
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- # [23:44] <fabrice> gavin: yep, geolocation is different
- # [23:44] <gavin> this geo code is confusing
- # [23:44] <surkov> smaug: tbsaunde not sure about xbl methods so wanted to get feedback from someone who knows it
- # [23:44] <fabrice> blame dougt!
- # [23:44] <@smaug> surkov: ah, sorry, it is in my feedback queue (which is like, look at this when the review queue is empty )
- # [23:44] <Waldo> "The old Google Groups will be going away soon. Switch to the new Google Groups." so you're not going to tell me what I might be switching to before I switch? o_O
- # [23:45] <surkov> smaug: I see, it'd be nice to get you there sooner ;)
- # [23:45] <kwierso> Waldo: it's new, therefore better :)
- # [23:46] <Waldo> possibly, and for me perhaps even probably
- # [23:47] <Waldo> yet at the same time, I'd really like to know what I'm switching to :-)
- # [23:47] * Waldo guesses http://groups-announcements.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-in-google-groups.html is as close as he's likely to get
- # [23:48] <@smaug> surkov: I wish I could understand what the bug is about :)
- # [23:48] <Waldo> seems innocuous enough, if I believe what they're telling me is important is a superset of what's actually going to be important for me
- # [23:49] <surkov> smaug: aria-blabla attributes should on XBL bound element be able to point into XBL anon content
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- # [23:49] <Waldo> oh, so after I've opted in, *then* they tell me "Not ready for change? Temporarily choose the old Google Groups from the gear menu."
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