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# Session Start: Wed Mar 14 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:02] <@ted> Bas: that sounds horrible
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# [00:03] <Bas> ted: Ok, I'll just copy the cpp files I need and compile them in there :p
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# [00:04] <@ted> ugh
# [00:04] <@ted> horrid
# [00:04] <@ted> stupid msvc
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# [00:05] <Bas> ted: Well, we should just have a nice clean portability layer, that we could link in from anywhere (i.e. not NSPR :P)
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# [00:09] <rnewman> headsup: current inbound head might fail to build on android, due to deleting tons of stale tests
# [00:09] <rnewman> fix en route
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# [00:11] <cers> If I wanted to talk to someone who knows a lot about the font system in Firefox, who might that be?
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# [00:11] <Waldo> nattokirai in JP
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# [00:12] <Bas> ces Waldo: Or jfkthame in UK
# [00:12] <Waldo> point
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# [00:13] <edmorley> rnewman: delete all the tests \o/ :-)
# [00:14] <rnewman> raaaar
# [00:15] <edmorley> rnewman: and the builds should be fine, *makefiles.sh entries for non existent files just emit a not found warning during configure, they don't abort the build (yet, until bug 734125)
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# [00:16] <edmorley> (as long as there isn't a syntax error with the scripts themselves that is)
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# [00:16] <rnewman> I killed those two builds anyway; save the resources for the follow-up push
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# [00:17] <philor> urgh
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# [00:19] <edmorley> philor: to be fair, we shouldn't give people a "break things" button if it shouldn't be used on tree X
# [00:19] <Waldo> it's true
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# [00:20] <rnewman> should I not touch the big red X?
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# [00:20] <mbrubeck> The big red X is safe on Try, and safe for killing tests
# [00:20] <mbrubeck> but not safe for killing builds anywhere else
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# [00:21] <cers> Bas, Waldo: those names were for me?
# [00:21] <Bas> cers: Indeed.
# [00:21] <cers> ahh - thanks
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# [00:24] <mak> Bas: I crashed like this (https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-6a83276e-8502-42e3-b011-8c5802120313) after installing updated nvidia drivers without restarting firefox
# [00:24] <mak> Bas: I suppose you may be interested into that... do you want me to file a bug or is it known?
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# [00:25] <Bas> mak: Exception 0x00000879, known driver bug.
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# [00:25] <Bas> I've been suggesting trapping and ignoring it.
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# [00:26] <mak> Bas: where do you see that message?
# [00:26] <Bas> mak: In your crash report :)
# [00:26] <Bas> Under crash reason
# [00:27] <mak> Bas: ah! so, ok. I suppose this latest version is not better than the previous one then :p
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# [00:27] <mak> thanks
# [00:27] <Bas> mak: Actually, this crash is more or less the result of your old drivers, I believe :)
# [00:27] <Bas> But I still wouldn't bet on it :p
# [00:28] <mak> was not that old, 2 weeks ago I think
# [00:28] <mak> btw, whatever
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# [00:30] <philor> edmorley: if only I had filed multiple bugs about taking it away...
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# [00:31] <edmorley> philor: indeed
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# [00:36] <philor> killing tests isn't particularly safe, either
# [00:36] <philor> if you kill something that looks pending to you, but it has already been coalesced with a test on a later push, then you kill that running test
# [00:36] <philor> and if you kill running Android tests, you cause bug 687098 the next time that slave runs
# [00:37] <philor> including when you kill your whole set on try, next time that slave runs on a non-try tree, you blow up an m-c or m-i or m-r test run
# [00:38] <philor> there are times when killing anything is the right thing to do, and I'm sort of glad self-serve still lets us kill builds since otherwise you wouldn't be able to kill a runaway retry during the middle of the night, but it is a footgun
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# [00:40] <Mossop> gps: Is there any way that add-on sync could be calling into the add-ons manager during shutdown?
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# [00:42] <edmorley> philor: perhaps we need to just make it try non-android only, unless you have the sheriffpass?
# [00:42] <philor> rnewman: oh, and it looks like you'll need a clobber, too
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# [00:43] <rnewman> apparently so :/
# [00:43] <edmorley> s/it/it be for/
# [00:43] <philor> we'd simplify our lives a whole lot if we just stopped doing dep builds
# [00:44] <philor> edmorley: as soon as someone asks where the self-serve code is and how to set it up so they can test their patches, I'll be all over telling them things they should do :)
# [00:44] <gps> Mossop: add-on sync unregisters its add-on manager listener during xpcom-shutdown
# [00:45] <darktrojan> simplify by finding out that 7 other things have pushed before you find out you broke it?
# [00:45] <philor> but tbpl is just a teeny tiny front end over self-serve, breaking the tbpl X without breaking self-serve too seems silly
# [00:45] <gps> services/sync/modules/addonsreconciler.js:157
# [00:45] <edmorley> philor: yeah true
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# [00:48] <rnewman> clobbered android
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# [00:48] <philor> felt good, didn't it?
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# [00:49] <rnewman> :D
# [00:49] <rnewman> it deserved it
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# [00:53] <Mossop> gps: Curses, I wanted to blame you for more stuff ;)
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# [00:55] <gps> Mossop: I'm glad I'm off the hook!
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# [01:00] <Jeffrey> who would be able to close bug 727335
# [01:01] <dholbert> Jeffrey, define "close"?
# [01:01] <Jeffrey> remove the bug
# [01:01] <dholbert> Jeffrey, ah -- I can do so. I assume this is because it's to be implemented on the Ubuntu packaging side, yes?
# [01:02] <Jeffrey> yes, and taking with the ubuntu mozilla team the options will never be accepted
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# [01:04] <dholbert> Jeffrey, ok
# [01:04] <jaws> how do i convert from nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument> to nsCOMPtr<nsDocument>? I've tried static_cast but I get: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1517779
# [01:04] <Jeffrey> dholbert: thank you for the help also
# [01:04] <dholbert> no problem!
# [01:04] <WeirdAl> jaws - I don't think you can - I think you want nsRefPtr<nsDocument>
# [01:05] <jaws> this is the code that i have btw: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1517780
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# [01:06] <WeirdAl> actually, since you already have a strong ref to the document, nsDocument* would be safe
# [01:06] <jaws> so i should just do: static_cast<nsDocument*>(doc)->GetPlugins() ?
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# [01:07] <jaws> i think i tried that also but it didn't work. how do i get to the raw pointer?
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# [01:08] <Mook_as> you can look at doc.get() (which is a raw pointer), but... are you sure that's safe?
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# [01:08] <jaws> i think this is more work than necessary really
# [01:08] <jaws> this is coming from a comment in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730318#c30
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# [01:09] <jaws> khuey|away asked that i remove the functions from the interface, and just static_cast to the concrete class, but that requires more work and if i have to get at raw pointers then i don't think it's worth it
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# [01:49] <satdav> hey guys why wont the symbals download from https://developer.mozilla.org/en/How_to_get_a_stacktrace_with_WinDbg
# [01:49] <satdav> that doc
# [01:49] <satdav> tried the commands and it wont download
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# [02:19] <Callek> khuey|away: not sure if you still awnt me but pong
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# [02:21] <ewong> Callek probably about last night's issue with the build..
# [02:21] <Callek> yea I bet it is :-)
# [02:22] <Callek> since I pinged him diectly too
# [02:23] <ewong> Callek so c-c is now 2.11?
# [02:23] <Callek> yes
# [02:23] <Callek> err -- I think
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# [02:24] <rnewman|afk> philor: *sadface*
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# [02:26] <rnewman> philor: so how do I *really really* blow away the objdir on the tinderboxes?
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# [02:27] <rnewman> ah, shit
# [02:27] <ewong> Callek misak's solution to the problem was remove ./mozilla and clone again..
# [02:27] <rnewman> I might have missed a line
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# [02:27] <philor> rnewman: dunno - if you're absolutely sure that's what's ha
# [02:27] <philor> oh
# [02:27] <philor> yay, then you won't have to back out and file a blocker against the clobberer :)
# [02:27] <ewong> Callek gonna rebuild.. w/o blowing the ./mozilla
# [02:28] <rnewman> http://rnewman.pastebin.mozilla.org/1517874
# [02:28] <philor> indeed
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# [02:29] <rnewman> *two* places where we enable tests! one of them conditionalized!
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# [02:31] <rnewman> alright, let's see if that helped
# [02:32] <rnewman> remind me not to fix things I find in other components :D
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# [02:36] <philor> ah, good, that fx-team leak managed to survive the merge and leak all over aurora
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# [02:42] <edmorley> rnewman: TEST_DIRS is conditionalised in rules.mk and was the primary means for including the makefile, makefiles.sh is just a performance optimisation to pre-generate the makefiles in the objdir during configure, to speed up the build
# [02:43] <rnewman> :(
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# [02:43] <@ehsan> vladan: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2011/01/restartless-add-ons-more-resources/
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# [02:43] <edmorley> rnewman: yey to build system duplication
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# [02:45] <edmorley> and let's not forget the js/src/config+build copy paste test :-)
# [02:46] <Waldo> so, um, is it just me, or does mozilla-beta have a lot more orange than it did before the various merge pushes?
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# [02:46] <Waldo> Android XUL opt seems to be kinda perma-orangeish on b-c
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# [02:48] <Waldo> lsblakk|afk: so, given the Android XUL opt fail is complaining about a wrong number of locales, and it wasn't on mozilla-aurora prior to that tree's merge today, is it possible the l10n fixing-up you did today didn't quite work properly?
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# [02:50] <Waldo> akeybl: ^ no idea if this is actually the case, but something seems smelly with current mozilla-beta's results for Android XUL opt b-c, especially with their failing basically the same way consistently since that push
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# [02:54] <gavin> Callek: yes
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# [02:56] <Callek> gavin: if this is re: my ping yesterday, was wondering if you recalled [or could lookup easily] what the value for the order.n prefs was keying off of (for opensearch)
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# [02:56] <gavin> I don't understand the question
# [02:56] <Callek> gavin: my best opinion after skimming was the opensearch <shortname>...</shortname> but I could not easily verify that
# [02:57] <gavin> the values are reference to ShortNames
# [02:57] <Waldo> actually, Android results post-beta-merge look generally pretty horked, even moreso than usual
# [02:57] <Waldo> aurora both pre-merge and post-merge is normally greeny with hints of orange
# [02:58] <Callek> gavin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/browser-region/region.properties#5 ahh so it does reference http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/locales/en-US/searchplugins/google.xml#12 ok, sounds good -- thanks
# [02:58] <akeybl> Waldo: lsblakk just clobbered the builds on beta - we may have clobbered m-r instead of m-b
# [02:58] <Waldo> ah
# [02:58] <lsblakk|afk> not m-r, but mozilla-beta release builders
# [02:58] <Waldo> We Shall See.
# [02:58] <Waldo> :-)
# [02:58] <lsblakk|afk> my bad
# [02:58] <gavin> Callek: yes
# [02:58] <Callek> I had a case where a l10n review I was doing (for a new suite locale) was certainly wrong there, but I wanted to tell them what to change it to correctly ;-)
# [02:58] <Waldo> no worries
# [02:58] <Callek> gavin: thank you
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# [03:27] <akeybl> Waldo: any luck with those tests??
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# [03:27] <akeybl> sorry, s/??/?/
# [03:28] <Waldo> akeybl: hm, I might have misunderstood, was I supposed to do something? the builds don't appear retriggered on tbpl
# [03:28] <akeybl> oh thought you retriggered them
# [03:29] <Waldo> I can do that, certainly, if it's needed
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# [03:29] <Waldo> for the test runs, tho, I don't actually know if that would pick up the rebuilt thing, or just rerun tests with the non-clobbered build
# [03:30] <qheaden> Has anyone been having trouble with the smartmake.py script?
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# [03:31] <qheaden> When I run it, it is showing the commands that it plans to execute, but it doesn't run them. BTW, I don't have DEBUG set to 1 in the environment.
# [03:31] <Waldo> akeybl: ^
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# [03:32] <akeybl> hmm that's valid
# [03:32] <akeybl> I've kicked off the tests now
# [03:32] <akeybl> if those fail, we'll figure something out
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# [03:38] <philor> what tree are you figuring things out on?
# [03:40] <Waldo> mozilla-beta
# [03:41] <Waldo> which is...mottled right now
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# [03:41] <philor> android? just a miss-aimed clobber, the builds that are running right now will trigger happy tests
# [03:41] <Waldo> We Shall See.
# [03:41] <akeybl> awesome yep
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# [03:41] <akeybl> philor: what's the secret to kicking off a number of tests at once?
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# [03:42] <philor> akeybl: "a build"
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# [03:42] <akeybl> ah ok
# [03:42] <philor> you don't actually want to retrigger the tests, because they'll run on the old half-n-half build
# [03:42] <akeybl> understood
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# [03:43] <philor> but the closest to a secret I know is to click on the first, put the mouse on the +, then click, n, click, n, click, n
# [03:43] <philor> since n/p take you through failing jobs
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# [03:44] <akeybl> bb in a bit
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# [03:47] <qheaden> Unfocused: ping
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# [03:51] <Olipro> whoever does the Windows builds - ever considered switching the MSVC compiler flags from -O1 to -O2
# [03:51] <Olipro> -O1 is the equivalent of GCC's -Os
# [03:51] <Olipro> I.e., size, NOT speed
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# [03:53] <Olipro> and even though PGO is used, I'm sure it has a negative impact since the PGO process relies on running the first iteration of generated code
# [03:53] <Olipro> namely, code that has been optimised for size
# [03:53] <Unfocused> qheaden: pong
# [03:54] <qheaden> Unfocused: Hey there. Thanks for the last feedback you gave. I'm working on the suggestions.
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# [03:55] <qheaden> Unfocused: But I have a question about the DTD file for the "Search Engine Keyword" setting text. Where should the DTD file go, and what should it be named?
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# [03:58] <Unfocused> qheaden: put it in here: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/search/
# [03:58] <Unfocused> named search.dtd
# [03:58] <qheaden> Unfocused: Sounds good.
# [03:59] <qheaden> Unfocused: Also, is the search prefs xul file in good shape name and location wise?
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# [04:00] <Unfocused> qheaden: yep :)
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# [04:01] <qheaden> \o/
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# [04:04] <qheaden> Unfocused: BTW, I made a constant for that "@search.mozilla.org" suffix string. Is the name for the constant SEARCH_ADDON_ID_SUFFIX okay?
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# [04:07] <Unfocused> yep :)
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# [04:24] <darktrojan> hmm, moz-page-thumb images seem to have a black line down the side
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# [04:40] <krit> AryehGregor: ping
# [04:41] <jaws> darktrojan: i was thinking that could be from scrollbars... what do you think?
# [04:42] <darktrojan> yeah, it is
# [04:42] <darktrojan> there's a bug on it already
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# [05:00] <akeybl> philor: still running into failures on m-b huh
# [05:01] <philor> akeybl: yep, still looking for fire, still only smelling smoke
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# [05:02] <philor> it all seems reasonable, other than the minor detail where the browser doesn't actually start
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# [05:05] <darktrojan> does anyone else see headlines like "Firefox 11 released with Style Editor and 3D DOM viewer" and think, "wasn't that months ago?"
# [05:06] <Mossop> Yep
# [05:06] <kanru> o_o/
# [05:06] <akeybl> philor: Pike asked lsblakk|afk to "for the central-aurora merge, I'd appreciate if you could persist the state of all-locales/l10n-changesets/maemo-locales in browser/locales and mobile/android/locales" earlier today
# [05:06] <Mossop> But then that was even more true when we were on a slower release cycle
# [05:06] <akeybl> perhaps still l10n related?
# [05:07] <akeybl> oh but that was only aurora hmph
# [05:08] <Waldo> darktrojan: I barely even know what version we released, honestly
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# [05:09] * Unfocused wonders what component to put a bug about touch input
# [05:09] <akeybl> philor: should I get help from the mobile guys?
# [05:10] <mfinkle> ?
# [05:10] <jaws> is there a reason to prefer do_queryObject over do_queryInterface? my lvalue is a nsCOMPtr<nsIContent> so it is my understanding that do_queryInterface would be the preferred way.
# [05:10] <philor> akeybl: as it happens, "**kats looks at logs"
# [05:10] <philor> though mfinkle looking at logs would be good too :)
# [05:11] <philor> mfinkle: post-merge, mozilla-beta Android doesn't start for mochitests and talos, and crashtests and reftests bitch about not being able to drawWindow remote content
# [05:11] <mfinkle> looking
# [05:12] <philor> "Unknown permission android.permission.DOWNLOAD_WITHOUT_NOTIFICATION in package org.mozilla.firefox_beta" just before it doesn't start makes it look to me like the branding's right, but I'm not so good with a logcat
# [05:13] <kwierso> Unfocused: Core:Event Handling?
# [05:13] * kwierso sees lots of mentions of the word "touch" in there
# [05:14] <Unfocused> kwierso: bah, just put it in Core :: Widget: Win32
# [05:14] <Unfocused> ok
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# [05:16] <@khuey> man
# [05:16] <@khuey> missing your caltrain when they run every hour is awful
# [05:16] <jtcranmer> could be worse
# [05:16] <jtcranmer> could be raining out
# [05:16] <nigelb> yeah, you could miss the last caltrain!
# [05:16] <Unfocused> khuey: i'm sure there's a pub nearby
# [05:17] <nigelb> Unfocused: that means missing the next one too :P
# [05:17] <Unfocused> hehe
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# [05:21] <kwierso> khuey: I was out in the bay area last month apartment hunting, a place I was going to look at was just a few minutes from a caltrain station. got to the place, waited for the guy to show up so I could see it, went in with him, spotted cockroaches, quickly left the place.
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# [05:21] <kwierso> thought I could get back to the station before the next train left.
# [05:21] <kwierso> too late :(
# [05:22] <glob> d'oh
# [05:22] <kwierso> so then I got to sit at the station for an hour thinking about cockroaches
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# [05:23] <jtcranmer> were they flesh-eating roaches thinking of roasting your liver/
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# [05:23] <kwierso> most likely
# [05:24] <darktrojan> tasty
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# [05:25] * jtcranmer still hasn't tried foie gras
# [05:25] <@khuey> Unfocused: not in Santa Clara
# [05:25] <@khuey> jtcranmer: is is raining
# [05:25] <@khuey> kwierso: haha
# [05:25] <jtcranmer> next you're going to tell me something about walking uphill, both ways
# [05:25] <Unfocused> in 10ft of snow
# [05:26] <@khuey> no snow in the bay
# [05:26] <jtcranmer> miserable little place, then
# [05:26] <jtcranmer> what's winter without snow/
# [05:26] <kwierso> ^
# [05:26] <kwierso> ^
# [05:26] <Unfocused> not now, no - kids have it so easy these days...
# [05:26] <jtcranmer> wait
# [05:26] <jtcranmer> that was this winter
# [05:26] <kwierso> ^
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# [05:26] <Unfocused> hah
# [05:26] <jtcranmer> I'm in the midwest
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# [05:27] <jtcranmer> it's not even Spring yet
# [05:27] <jtcranmer> and I'm wearing shorts
# [05:27] <kwierso> well, fine, killer, I won't agree with people...
# [05:27] <jtcranmer> o_O
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# [05:28] <jtcranmer> I was prepared for the cold, I got loads of new sweaters, etc. for it
# [05:28] <jtcranmer> even a nice new warm hat
# [05:28] <jtcranmer> and what happens?
# [05:28] <jtcranmer> the NAO decides to lock in the polar air and we get warm weather all winter
# [05:28] <kwierso> jtcranmer: this will probably have been my last winter in iowa before I move to california. I wanted the winter to go out with a bang
# [05:28] <kwierso> nothing
# [05:29] <jtcranmer> although, ironically
# [05:29] <jtcranmer> the only days it did any significant snowfall
# [05:29] <jtcranmer> was first the day I drove back here from winter break
# [05:29] <kwierso> jtcranmer: the week I'm out in mountain view for a work week, there was 7 inches of snow
# [05:29] <kwierso> all melted by the time I got back
# [05:29] <jtcranmer> and then the day I was flying back from rochester, ny
# [05:36] <jaws> dholbert: i needed the static_cast because of "nsObjectLoadingContent.cpp(569) : error C2594: 'argument' : ambiguous conversions from 'nsObjectLoadingContent *const ' to 'nsISupports *'"
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# [05:36] <@khuey> this sounds like something relevant to me
# [05:36] <dholbert> jaws, ah -- gotcha
# [05:36] <jaws> oh hey khuey!
# [05:36] <dholbert> khuey, indeed! jaws was asking me about do_QueryObject, and I was being unhelpful. :)
# [05:37] <dholbert> having only used do_QueryInterface myself
# [05:37] <jaws> khuey: i tried changing the line from do_queryInterface to do_queryObject and I got hit with a bunch of ambiguous conversions to nsISupports
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# [05:38] <@khuey> that's ... surprising
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# [05:39] <jaws> i'm rebuilding now to get a build log of the errors
# [05:39] <@khuey> what is the type you're do_QueryObjecting?
# [05:39] <qheaden> Did the -no-remote flag get taken out?
# [05:39] <jaws> nsCOMPtr<nsIContent> thisContent = do_QueryObject(this);
# [05:39] <jaws> shouldn't i use do_queryInterface since the left-side is an interface?
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# [05:40] <jaws> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1518044
# [05:40] <kwierso> qheaden: working for me with a nightly from a few weeks ago; updating to see if it changed
# [05:41] <kwierso> qheaden: yeah, still working
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# [05:41] <qheaden> kwierso: Hmm. I'm getting
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# [05:42] <@khuey> shitty wifi
# [05:42] <@khuey> jaws: gotta run, Caltrain coming
# [05:42] <jaws> k
# [05:42] <@khuey> kinda surprised it doesn't work, but w/e
# [05:42] <kwierso> khuey: don't miss it again!
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# [05:44] <jgilbert> qheaden: one windows, at least, you also need -P. -no-remote doesn't seem to work as I'd expect it to there
# [05:45] <kwierso> qheaden: oh. yeah. using two separate profiles as well.
# [05:45] <qheaden> Yeah, I use a separate profile. So I guess I don't need the -no-remote flag then?
# [05:45] <kwierso> if you want two instances at the same time, yes
# [05:45] <qheaden> I'm using Windows.
# [05:45] <qheaden> Ok.
# [05:46] <kwierso> for at least one of them
# [05:46] <darktrojan> bah, I've hit the idl parser bug
# [05:46] <qheaden> Because I am also running normal Firefox to browse the web.
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# [05:48] <qheaden> Unfocused: Come to find out, the last patch I released was completely broken. :P
# [05:48] * ewong wonders if it's possible to kill that idl parser bug once and for all.
# [05:48] <qheaden> Unfocused: I was passing the same position into moveEngine, and the engines weren't moving at all.
# [05:48] <qheaden> Guess that's the result of coding late at night after school. :P
# [05:49] * kwierso uses "-P nightly" in the target box in my 32-bit nightly's shortcut's Properties window's "Shortcut" tab, "-no-remote -P x64" in the target box for my win64 nightly, and finally "-P -no-remote" in his release firefox build
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# [05:50] <darktrojan> aha
# [05:50] <kwierso> that all seems to work, links from other programs open in the 32-bit nightly build
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# [05:51] * qheaden need better profile names.
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# [05:51] <kwierso> on my old desktop, I had a bunch of "default", "newDefault", "newerDefault" profile names
# [05:52] <qheaden> I just use "-P mozdev"
# [05:54] <jtcranmer> -P a, b, c, d, e, f, g... how could you go wrong? :-P
# [05:55] <kwierso> I usually start out with decent profile names, but after a while they all end up getting screwed up horribly via extensions or Nightly/Minefield silliness, and I just abandon my good naming conventions
# [05:55] <qheaden> jtcranmer: lol
# [05:55] <gavin> [gavin@gavin-mbp:~]$ grep Name ~/Library/Application\ Support/Firefox/profiles.ini | cut -b6- | xargs
# [05:56] <gavin> default trunk test new debug old_default proxy beta aurora ux 192
# [05:56] <qheaden> gavin += 5
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# [06:17] <philor> I'm not sure I approve of intentionally expecting someone to back your bustage out of inbound
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# [06:18] <qheaden> I'm trying to stay under 80 characters per line. Is the inline function formatted correctly? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1518098
# [06:18] <philor> particularly since it's just sat there for three hours, how is it that nobody has piled multiple pushes on top of it?
# [06:18] <dholbert> heh
# [06:18] <qheaden> Should that function be right above the if?
# [06:19] <dholbert> philor, hmm -- at least he says in the bug that it seems to be an inbound-specific failure
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# [06:20] <dholbert> ("this time with better diagnostic info so we can see why this only seems to fail on inbound and not try")
# [06:20] <gavin> qheaden: I'd use http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1518099
# [06:20] <gavin> or, just define the function separately
# [06:20] <philor> dholbert: if he had backed out as soon as his builds got scheduled, rather than treating the volunteers who manage inbound as his bitches, I would not be saying anything at all
# [06:21] <dholbert> philor, ah that's true, he absolutely could've backed himself out right away
# [06:21] <gavin> say so in the bug
# [06:21] <gavin> preferably without the "bitches" part
# [06:21] <dholbert> philor, I'll back him out, unless you're already doing so
# [06:22] <philor> dholbert: already did
# [06:22] <gavin> I'm guessing he doesn't realize that what he did would bother you
# [06:22] <dholbert> philor, you are a gentleman and a scholar
# [06:22] <philor> gavin: check my backout commit message, I'm a good little boy
# [06:23] <philor> shit
# [06:23] <Unfocused> qheaden: pong
# [06:23] <Unfocused> er, what gavin said
# [06:23] <philor> could someone please comment in the bug for me? thank you
# [06:24] <jdm> poor jason
# [06:24] <jdm> the test timed out this time, so no debug output at all
# [06:24] <qheaden> Unfocused: Ok. I was going to ask you another quesiton, but I solved it. :)
# [06:25] <dholbert> philor, doing so
# [06:25] <Unfocused> qheaden: glad i could help!
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# [06:26] <qheaden> Unfocused: I finally moved the position reordering event into the moveEngine code like you have been suggesting.
# [06:26] <qheaden> Unfocused: Just tested it by reordering using the old engine manager, and it reflects the changes in the new one.
# [06:26] <Unfocused> ah, excellent
# [06:26] <qheaden> I still have to contact Frank Yan about that drag feedback.
# [06:27] * Unfocused nods
# [06:28] <jaws> fryn: ^
# [06:29] <fryn> qheaden: hi
# [06:30] <fryn> what question(s) do you have about drag feedback?
# [06:30] <qheaden> fryn: Oh hi. Didn't think you were on. :P
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# [06:31] <qheaden> fryn: I'm trying to add some drag feedback to the menu items in the addons manager. I am moving the search engine management into the addons section, but I need reordering feedback like the old search engine manager.
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# [06:31] <qheaden> Here is the bug I am talking about: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335781
# [06:32] <qheaden> fryn: I added the ability to reorder addon items in the addons list, but I don't think the built in drag/drop feedback stuff works for it.
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# [06:32] <qheaden> I mean for ghosting the feedback image.
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# [06:33] <philor> dholbert: thanks, I could keep the whine out, or the rage out, but I couldn't manage one with neither one
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# [06:34] <fryn> qheaden: do you want the feedback to be like how dragging the thumbnails works on the new tab page?
# [06:34] <dholbert> philor, I'm trying to strike the right balance. :) (nearly posted before but midaired)
# [06:35] <qheaden> fryn: Yeah, that's a good template.
# [06:35] <fryn> i'm not sure what ttaubert did. i think he used a combination of position: relative; and position: absolute;
# [06:35] <fryn> ttaubert: ping ^
# [06:35] <Unfocused> fryn: yep. though i was thinking more like the tabstrip (limited to only one axis)
# [06:35] <fryn> for the tab animation that i have been working on,
# [06:36] <qheaden> Unfocused: Yeah, that would be better.
# [06:36] <fryn> i've been using -moz-transform: translateX(insertnumberhere);
# [06:36] <fryn> since position: absolute; doesn't work well with most flexbox & XUL stuff
# [06:36] <qheaden> fryn: So that's for CSS?
# [06:36] <fryn> if you look at my work in progress patch in this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674925
# [06:37] <Unfocused> hm, yea, that's all in xul (it's richlistitems in a richlistbox)
# [06:37] <dholbert> fryn, it works better as of a few days ago. I fixed a few bugs
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# [06:37] <dholbert> fryn, at ttaubert's request
# [06:37] <fryn> you can see that i apply a -moz-transform to the tab
# [06:37] <fryn> on every dragover event.
# [06:37] <fryn> i'm using dragover events, not drag events, because of a platform bug
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# [06:38] <qheaden> Hmm ok. I see.
# [06:38] <fryn> dholbert: yeah, i saw those. thanks :) positioning like that doesn't support the tab use case, because each tab doesn't have a wrapper on which you can set position: absolute
# [06:39] <qheaden> Is there a way to limit the axis as Blair was mentioning?
# [06:39] <dholbert> gotcha
# [06:39] <fryn> if you're curious, here's the platform bug for why you can't use drag events https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505521
# [06:40] * fryn obviously wishes that bug could get fixed.
# [06:41] <fryn> qheaden: you mean limit the events received to one axis? no, there isn't.
# [06:41] <qheaden> fryn: That's no problem then.
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# [06:41] <fryn> you simply get all dragover events and only use the event.clientX/Y or event.screenX/Y values
# [06:41] <fryn> depending on the orientation of the list.
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# [06:41] <fryn> XUL wasn't designed to do these fancy things unfortunately,
# [06:42] <fryn> so we have to build them ourselves at a high level now.
# [06:42] <fryn> and it gets pretty messy.
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# [06:42] <Mossop> Was HTML designed to do these fancy things?
# [06:42] <dholbert> philor, posted -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664163#c9 :)
# [06:42] <fryn> no.
# [06:42] <philor> thanks
# [06:42] <dholbert> np
# [06:42] <fryn> but flexbox was especially not designed to handle these fancy things.
# [06:43] <fryn> well, at least our implementation of flexbox.
# [06:43] <dholbert> fryn, I've only been partly following your conversation. New-flexbox should handle these things better
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# [06:43] <fryn> the CSS3 working draft for flexbox has some fancy stuff
# [06:43] <dholbert> yeah
# [06:43] <Mossop> Oh? I've not been following it really
# [06:44] <fryn> free link: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-flexbox/
# [06:44] <dholbert> it plays a lot more nicely with HTML
# [06:44] <dholbert> fryn, that's so last year!
# [06:44] <fryn> it even can wrap!
# [06:44] <dholbert> fryn, http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/ is the new sauce
# [06:44] <Mossop> Oh man, words and stuff? Boo
# [06:44] <fryn> oh oops.
# [06:44] * fryn looks for newer version...
# [06:44] <dholbert> fryn, ^
# [06:44] <fryn> bam! http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/
# [06:45] <fryn> oh i'm so 5 seconds ago.
# [06:45] <dholbert> haha
# [06:46] <fryn> qheaden: using -moz-transform is probably the cleanest way to do it, since the transform doesn't affect any of the other elements around it.
# [06:46] <fryn> since animation is so complex,
# [06:46] <fryn> i recommend splitting it off into a separate bug
# [06:47] <fryn> and not have it block the landing of the search engine manager integration.
# [06:48] <qheaden> fryn: Well, it looks kinda weird without some sort of feedback. The user doesn't know whether or not the engine is dragging until they release the mouse.
# [06:48] <Mossop> Just update it's position in the list so they see the end result, no animation so should be fairly straightforward to start with?
# [06:48] <qheaden> From the looks of it, addon CSS is defined per-theme.
# [06:48] <fryn> qheaden: you can make a ghost of the engine using setDragImage
# [06:49] <qheaden> fryn: I tried it, but it didn't seem to work. Maybe I was doing it wrong.
# [06:49] <qheaden> What should be passed to setDragImage?
# [06:49] <philor> somebody remind me, what's at KERNELBASE.dll + 0x9617?
# [06:49] <fryn> qheaden: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/DragDrop/Drag_Operations#Setting_the_drag_feedback_image
# [06:49] <fryn> you can pass an image that represents the engine. for example, the engine's icon.
# [06:50] <qheaden> Let me try it again.
# [06:50] <fryn> or you can pass the richlistitem itself. not sure if that will work.
# [06:51] <fryn> qheaden: you have to call setDragImage inside a dragstart handler.
# [06:51] <qheaden> ok
# [06:51] <fryn> Mossop: oh you mean update the position as the search engine is being dragged?
# [06:52] <Mossop> Yeah that was my first guess
# [06:52] <Mossop> Setting the drag image probably works too
# [06:52] <fryn> what i dislike about drag images is that it looks like you're copying the engine, not moving it,
# [06:52] <qheaden> The drag image route would be more natural to other interfaces.
# [06:53] <fryn> which is precisely why i started working on tab animation,
# [06:53] <fryn> since direct manipulation is more natural for moving objects,
# [06:53] <fryn> and creating "ghosts" is more natural for copying objects.
# [06:53] <qheaden> fryn: Well, it can be a workaround for now, but as you suggested, I could create a new bug for adding animation.
# [06:53] <fryn> but direct manipulation is a pain to implement for lists.
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# [06:53] <Mossop> fryn: Sure, but this is just a first pass with the better animation as a follow-up
# [06:54] <fryn> qheaden: yeah, definitely. try using setDragImage for now.
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# [07:15] <qheaden> Well, its bed time for me.
# [07:15] <qheaden> fryn: Thanks for the help on the feedback.
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# [07:42] <jaws> philor: should we back out bug 729111 due to the leaks? i don't know why that change would cause the leaks...
# [07:45] <philor> jaws: yeah, it looks solid as can be, but smells iffy - if I was awake 24/7, I'd back it out on inbound immediately after a merge to central, to get the maximum number of pushes to make sure that got rid of it
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# [08:50] <glazou> bonjour
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# [08:59] <glazou> hmmmm DOMProcessingInstruction.target does not work as setter
# [08:59] <glazou> sounds like a bug, let's write a test
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# [09:04] <glazou> OMG
# [09:05] <glazou> why the hell is that readonly :-)
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# [09:05] <glazou> thanks darin_
# [09:05] <glazou> er
# [09:05] <darktrojan> someone made it so
# [09:05] <glazou> thanks darktrojan
# [09:05] <glazou> yeah
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# [09:05] <glazou> pffff
# [09:06] <glazou> so it's a bug, but in the spec;-)
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# [09:34] <darktrojan> dear guy writing about firefox 11 on lifehacker, screw you
# [09:34] <lsumar> ?
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# [09:35] <lsumar> link?
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# [09:39] <darktrojan> http://lifehacker.com/5893067/firefox-11-introduces-add+on-sync-and-new-developer-tools
# [09:39] <glob> heh, "I switched to Waterfox the other day, and it's surprisingly less buggy than Firefox on my computer."
# [09:39] <darktrojan> laugh
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# [09:40] <darktrojan> people are stupid
# [09:40] <glob> what i guess s/he meant is "a clean profile solved some of my issues"
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# [09:41] <glob> darktrojan, i like how they took a screenshot of the massive 'download' button, but didn't link it up
# [09:42] <darktrojan> I think that's what counts as reviewing software these days
# [09:42] <Cork> darktrojan: hey, don't complain, i'm sure they spend a full 10 minutes on that review :)
# [09:43] <darktrojan> I've spent a full 10 minutes bashing them so I think we're even now
# [09:43] <Cork> :D
# [09:44] <NeilAway> jaws: if both sides are nsCOMPtr (or the RHS is nsIFoo) then use do_QueryInterface, else use do_QueryObject
# [09:45] <jaws> NeilAway: ok cool. my RHS is nsIFoo and LHS is nsCOMPtr<nsIContent>
# [09:46] <jaws> thanks
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# [09:47] <NeilAway> jaws: I don't know why your do_QueryObject(this) wouldn't work though
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# [09:53] <jaws> me neither
# [09:53] <jaws> but to me do_queryInterface seems more semantic, but that's probably just due to my ignorance
# [09:54] <jaws> or poor naming on behalf of do_queryObject :)
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# [10:16] <gcp> god, thunderbird has tabs on top without a firefox-style menu
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# [10:20] <Standard8> gcp: that's the next step
# [10:20] <gcp> I'm tempted to say, it should have been a dependency
# [10:21] <gcp> is there a way to rever it? firefox still allows that
# [10:21] <Standard8> not really: http://breakingtheegg.tumblr.com/post/17210480692/about-toggling-tabs-on-top
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# [10:25] <gcp> in firefox, the menu is *above* the tabs
# [10:25] <gcp> in thunderbird, it's below it
# [10:25] <Standard8> http://areweprettyyet.com/thunderbird
# [10:25] <Standard8> in case anyone wants to help
# [10:26] <Standard8> and I feel I should also point out we have beta releases available: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/channel/
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# [10:26] <gcp> I'm making remarks on the state of our release.
# [10:26] <Standard8> there's a lot of benefits to having it
# [10:27] <Standard8> and we've not been receiving negative feedback from the beta community
# [10:27] <Standard8> whilst I realise the menu location does feel strange, I think its one of those things that people will get used to
# [10:28] <gcp> are you arguing it makes sense in your ui concept?
# [10:28] <gcp> the menu contents is fixed and doesn't very per tab
# [10:28] <Standard8> no, but I'm saying it is reasonable
# [10:29] <gcp> so there's no point in putting it in the contextual area
# [10:29] <Standard8> actually, I believe it follows the models of some other windows apps
# [10:29] <Standard8> or at least so I've heard
# [10:30] <Standard8> I believe there's also limitations to putting it above
# [10:30] <gcp> it fixes 1 issue though: the menu is actually readable due to better background contrast
# [10:30] <nigelb> oh wow. I wish we had something like this for mozilla-central :-) http://dddash.ep.io/
# [10:31] <Cork> that would be kinda neet
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# [10:35] <Ms2ger> That would be so morale-boosting
# [10:36] <Ms2ger> New tickets this week: 14000
# [10:36] <Ms2ger> Commits in the last week: 20
# [10:37] <kanru> could I rely on the fact that nsIAsyncOutputStream->AsyncWait will hold a reference to the callback object and release it after OnOutputStreamReady is called? so that I can keep a reference of the stream object without worry cycle references..
# [10:37] <nerovengene> when I do a notifyobserver on an observer proxy to the main thread, the observers are processed on my calling thread itself. Shouldnt the event be posted to the main thread's event queue, and my calling thread not be blocked? If not, or not any longer, whats the right way to do this?
# [10:38] <NeilAway> we don't do proxies any more
# [10:38] <NeilAway> dispatch a runnable to the main thread to notify your observers
# [10:38] <ewong> Ms2ger: heh
# [10:39] <nerovengene> NeilAway: ouch, well.. how do I dispatch a runnable?
# [10:39] <nigelb> Ms2ger: hehe
# [10:39] <NeilAway> nerovengene: NS_DispatchToMainThread(runnable);
# [10:40] <nerovengene> NeilAway: thanks, will try that
# [10:40] <NeilAway> nerovengene: also you could try MXR for NS_DispatchToMainThread to find examples
# [10:41] <nattofriends> why no one uses dxr?
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# [10:42] <NeilAway> nattofriends: not friendly enough yet?
# [10:43] <nattofriends> friendly?
# [10:43] <nigelb> does it have all the repos yet?
# [10:44] <NeilAway> does it have all the links yet?
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# [10:45] <nattofriends> doesn't seem to have all repos, just m-c
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# [10:45] <nattofriends> and by links you mean links to definitions and all that?
# [10:46] <nigelb> NeilAway: The good thing is it's on someone's radar.
# [10:47] <nigelb> The bad thing is... I may be the guy writing the fixes :P
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# [10:51] <gcp> Lightning font rendering is also broken btw.
# [10:51] <gcp> the agenda items seem to end up at a non-integer pixel offset, so the text gets fuzzy and unreadable
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# [10:55] <glandium> so, do we have mercurial push hooks for clobber ?
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# [10:57] <darktrojan> thunderbird tabs on top++
# [10:58] <darktrojan> but
# [10:58] <darktrojan> it does look much better on gnome than on windows
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# [11:01] <darktrojan> also, hello what, irc in thunderbird?
# [11:01] <nigelb> lol
# [11:01] <nigelb> also, IM
# [11:01] <darktrojao> this seems a bit wrong
# [11:01] <nigelb> why are there 2 of you?
# [11:02] <darktrojao> thunderbirding
# [11:02] <nigelb> ooooh
# [11:02] <nigelb> how's the UX?
# [11:02] <darktrojao> it is there
# [11:02] <darktrojao> not sure if want
# [11:02] <nigelb> heh
# [11:02] <nigelb> maybe it's a joke for april fools? ;)
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# [11:04] <darktrojan> pretty sure they're serious
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# [11:17] <gaston> is there a bug open/something pending on inbound for '../../dist/include/mozilla/Telemetry.h:47:30: error: shared-libraries.h: No such file or directory' ?
# [11:18] <Ms2ger> glandium, (re clobber) no
# [11:18] <glandium> gaston: yes
# [11:18] <glandium> Ms2ger: sad
# [11:18] <Ms2ger> Would be nice, yes
# [11:18] <Ms2ger> Patches welcome ;)
# [11:19] <glandium> gaston: bug 735422
# [11:19] <gaston> thanks!
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# [11:29] <mounir> our build system *requires* python 2 ?
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# [11:33] <kanru> ipdl parser is python (didn't know if it's python 3 compatible)
# [11:33] <mounir> js/src/config/check-sync-dirs.py fails with python 3
# [11:33] <glandium> mounir: as in *requires* that it's not python 3 ? yes
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# [11:35] <glandium> i'm not even sure it would be possible for all our python script to work with both python 2 *and* python 3
# [11:35] <glandium> so it's actually nice that it fails early
# [11:35] <mounir> glandium: it would be nice if it was using the correct version of python auto-magically
# [11:36] <mounir> I have three different versions installed
# [11:36] <gaston> glandium: do we know if sps is enabled when building xpcom which includes Telemetry.h ? (ie is it just a matter of adding #ifdefs...)
# [11:36] <mounir> i thought that was doable in the shebang
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# [11:36] <gaston> i cant easily hack on #691898 if other breakage gets in the way :)
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# [11:38] <glandium> gaston: it's a matter of adding ifdefs
# [11:38] <glandium> mounir: there's a bug on that
# [11:39] <mounir> I guess I will switch back to 2.7 for the moment
# [11:39] <glandium> mounir: and it's not easily doable in the shebang because 1. windows doesn't support the shebang 2. different oses have a different name for different version of the python interpreter
# [11:39] <mounir> glandium: wouldn't #!/usr/bin/env python2 work?
# [11:40] <mounir> but that means the shebang is used too which might not be the case if we call python file.py I guess?
# [11:40] <glandium> mounir: 1. not on windows, and 2. i'm not sure "python2" works everywhere.
# [11:40] <glandium> that too
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# [11:41] <glandium> glandium: you can backout 734335 locally, that will help you
# [11:42] <mounir> glandium: do you have the bug number by any chance?
# [11:43] <glandium> mounir: what is the error message you got from check-sync-dirs?
# [11:43] <mounir> glandium: "file isn't a global var"
# [11:43] <mounir> or something like that
# [11:44] <mounir> I switched back to python2.7 and re-run make -f client.mk so I don't have it in front of me anymore
# [11:45] <glandium> mounir: without the exact message, i can't find it in my mailbox
# [11:46] <mounir> glandium: I will check that when the build will be done
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# [11:47] <glandium> mounir: can you just try python3 check-sync-dirs.py ? it'll likely give the same error. if not, you can try python3 check-sync-dirs.py build js/src/build
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# [11:48] <gaston> glandium: should i file another bug for moving enable_yarr_jit/enable_assembler to configure.in/js-config.h.in ?
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# [11:48] <mounir> glandium: I get another error about files not in sync
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# [11:49] <glandium> gaston: no
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# [11:50] <gaston> okay
# [11:50] <glandium> mounir: interesting
# [11:50] <gaston> i'll try to whack the stuff..
# [11:51] <glandium> gaston: r?me on the build stuff
# [11:53] <gaston> trying to fix/workaround 735422 first
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# [11:57] <glandium> gaston: backout 734335 locally is what you want
# [11:57] <glandium> gaston: ah though that's going to break for other reasons
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# [12:12] <jesup> Got an interesting one - I'm importing some code that's using ostreams to turn things into strings like this: template<class T> ... explicit ValueContainer(T data) : data_(data) {} ... std::stringstream ss; ss << data_ << ","; (http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1518434) Works find in debug, but in opt fails with TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | | We don't want these libstdc++ symbols to be used:...
# [12:12] <jesup> ...(SNIP) _ZNSo9_M_insertIxEERSoT_
# [12:13] <jesup> Any suggestions on a good way to avoid the problem? (I could always simply blow away the logging class, but that would be unfortunate)
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# [12:13] <jesup> that mangled symbol is std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >::_M_insert<long long>(long long)
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# [12:15] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(foo()) is DebugOnly<bool> ok = foo(); MOZ_ASSERT(ok);
# [12:15] <darktrojan> <3 other people's code http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/sourceeditor/orion/orion.js#3421
# [12:15] <darktrojan> gecko is gecko, people!
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# [12:16] <Callek> jesup: check with glandium, the reason we don't want those libstdc++ symbols is so we don't iterate on the linux system req's, and can build with newer gcc without _requiring_ newer gcc
# [12:17] <Callek> jesup: it *might* be possible/reasonable to add to the list of stub shit we do for compat, but I make no claims to that
# [12:18] <jesup> glandium: ^
# [12:18] <Ms2ger> jesup, bah, stl
# [12:19] <Callek> Ms2ger: note he said importing code, not designing new code
# [12:19] <jesup> Ms2ger: got a good alternative I can insert in it's place?
# [12:19] <Ms2ger> Yeah, he's importing a lot of junk
# [12:19] <Callek> if it was new code you *know* I would have suggested one of the many in-tree logging functionalities we have
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# [12:20] <glandium> jesup: add the function to the appropriate place in build/stdc++compat.cpp
# [12:21] <glandium> jesup: you may have an old tree, though, because bug 676071 added that particular one
# [12:24] <jesup> glandium: aha! yeah, I merged m-c to alder last.... on Feb 21. So that checkin post-dates it. How convenient! Probably time to merge again
# [12:24] <jesup> thanks!
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# [12:32] <hsivonen_> whoa. we now have a "checkin" flag on attachments. How does that interact with the checkin-needed keyword?
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# [12:33] <darktrojan> manually
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# [12:37] <hsivonen_> darktrojan: are people supposed to use both?
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# [12:38] <darktrojan> don't quote me on this, but I think just checkin-needed is fine unless it's not obvious what to check in
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# [12:41] <hsivonen_> darktrojan: ok
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# [12:43] <darktrojan> s/had the time/could exchange the time for money/
# [12:44] <Callek> jesup: even one week of m-c checkins is A LOT of code... nevermind more than 1 week, one of which being the "train is leaving the station stampede"
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# [12:44] <darktrojan> only about 1000 changesets
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# [13:22] <glazou> ../distbibl
# [13:22] <glazou> er sorry
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# [13:43] <bhearsum> does anyone know if we should build betas/releases with --enable-warnings-as-errors and/or --enable-js-diagnostics? yesterday's merge pulled those options into the beta mozconfigs but we haven't built betas with them in the past
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# [13:48] <NeilAway> wait, so MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE doesn't even know what it's asserting? :s
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# [14:05] <NeilAway> mak: do Livemarks now start automatically?
# [14:06] <mak> NeilAway: start() is a no-op now. though you should port the views changes
# [14:06] <mak> NeilAway: the service is started on first use, as any other service, though it won't auto refresh anymore until some code does that (that is what the views do when accessing a lm)
# [14:07] <mak> NeilAway: otherwise, you can just setup a timer and call RefreshAllLivemarks
# [14:07] <mak> ehr ReloadLivemarks()
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# [14:07] <NeilAway> mak: so, it will refresh e.g. when opening bookmarks manager?
# [14:08] <mak> NeilAway: when opening a livemark container
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# [14:08] <mak> it's on-demand, to avoid doing anything unless you actually use a livemark
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# [14:11] <NeilAway> mak: but before, you had to call start otherwise nothing would ever happen?
# [14:11] <mak> NeilAway: yes
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# [14:14] <jfkthame_> hmm.... i guess this code must predate 64-bit architectures......
# [14:14] <jfkthame_> char * key = new char[16];
# [14:14] <jfkthame_> sprintf(key, "%p", (void*)aFrame);
# [14:14] <jfkthame_> looks to me like a recipe for trouble
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# [14:14] <edmorley> hsivonen_: your last reply to bug 733282 reset the flags, presume that was unintentional? :-)
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# [14:16] <NeilAway> mak: ah, so we need the views changes too, otherwise our livemarks won't ever update
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# [14:16] <NeilAway> jfkthame_: I don't see anything wrong with that
# [14:16] <mak> NeilAway: yes, that's what I said above, I think!
# [14:16] <NeilAway> mak: you said "should"
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# [14:17] <mak> NeilAway: actually, not just update, they are likely empty now
# [14:17] <jfkthame_> NeilAway: surely a 64-bit pointer could require up to 19 bytes in the sprintf buffer?
# [14:17] <mak> NeilAway: sorry, you MUST port views changes
# [14:17] <NeilAway> jfkthame_: oh, fair enough
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# [14:17] <Ameya> Is it possible to write .sqlite query statements in browser.js?
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# [14:18] <edmorley> hsivonen_: re logs scrollback about checkin-needed: unless only a subset of the non-obsoleted patches need checking in, the keywords field is preferable, since you can remove the flag + set target milestone in one go, whereas the per patch flags require the person landing to make multiple passes at setting the bug meta
# [14:18] <NeilAway> mak: ok, so is this an attachment in bug 613588 or some other bug?
# [14:18] <Ameya> I tried to write in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#1216 browserstartup()...
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# [14:19] <mak> NeilAway: the frontend part, and there are some follow-up bugs in Depends on... it may be simpler to do a diff, but porting those should be enough
# [14:19] <Ameya> but not working once I recompile FF code....
# [14:20] <mak> Ameya: why exactly you want to run SQL in browserstartup? sounds like a recipe for pain
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# [14:21] <mak> Ameya: and, against which database?
# [14:21] <Ameya> Actually I want to store info about addons...such as ID, name, nsURI in DB
# [14:22] <mak> are not those already stored in the addons manager database? you may ask to its API
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# [14:22] <mak> (btw, please not on startup, we are suffering enough already)
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# [14:23] <mak> Ameya: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Addons/Add-on_Manager
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# [14:23] <Ameya> Ok... See Actually I need to use that info in C++ code ... apparently its not possible to access info of all addons in C++.
# [14:24] <Ameya> Hence somehow via JS I need to store it into DB... & that .sqlite can be accessed from C++ code...
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# [14:25] <Ameya> mak: getting whats my problem??
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# [14:26] <Ameya> Hello...
# [14:26] <NeilAway> mak: wow, you fixed 260849
# [14:27] <mak> Ameya: is there a specific reason you can't use js?
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# [14:27] <mak> Ameya: btw, you may write an xpcom component that reads the info from addons manager component and caches them for your cpp component, without going through a db
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# [14:28] <mak> NeilAway: somehow. basically the previous solution was working by luck (ehy we appear to have a favicon!)
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# [14:28] <Ameya> Ok... Is it possble to call JS xpcom component from cpp...?
# [14:28] <mak> that's the main point of xpcom :)
# [14:29] <mak> sure, you can call js from cpp and cpp from js
# [14:30] <mak> even if when possible you should try to use js and just make minor cpp components for things you really can't do in js (that are minimal, since there are also ctypes)
# [14:31] <mak> NeilAway: the new solution uses the same exact code we use for links decoration on pages, that is quick and async
# [14:31] <Ameya> mak: Ok.... I mean I need addon info in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSID.cpp#770 .... in GetService(). So as per you i should call JS component in getservice()...
# [14:33] <mak> Ameya: ugh, what you doing exactly? (may be you want to coordinate with Unfocused if you're working on an add-ons feature)
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# [14:34] <mak> slowing down getService is not exactly a great idea... so likely should be figured out with addons peers (that I'm surely not)
# [14:34] <Ameya> mak: I am catching calls to certain nsInterfaces... hence I added little in getservice()....
# [14:34] <Ameya> mak: I am monitoring URLs of scripts that are calling some interfaces Ex. nsICookieService..
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# [14:35] <Ameya> mak: I need to chk which one of these URLs belong to addons...
# [14:35] <mak> then you likely should just cache that info in a memory cache in getService, and asynchronously go through additions at another time, I think.
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# [14:36] <Ameya> mak: i dont understand it properly..
# [14:36] <Ameya> Can u explain more..?
# [14:36] <Callek> khuey|away: btw, is there *really* a reason/need for xpidllex and xpidlyacc to be in the *srcdir* ? [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/xpcom/idl-parser/Makefile.in#72 ]
# [14:37] <Callek> khuey|away: I've been told by some people that those appear in srcdir
# [14:37] <mak> Ameya: I mean, adding a lot of complication to getService may slow it down, so you may just use a memory cache there that is fast, and parse that data later, when you need it. Though I don't know the final scope nor I know if you're working on a bug that already had hints on how to proceed.
# [14:37] <mak> Ameya: so, imo, you should really coordinate this with Unfocused or Mossop that are the Addons manager peers
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# [14:38] <Ameya> Are they online now??
# [14:39] <mak> Mossop will be online later (PDT timezone), Unfocused not sure, may be (NZ timezone)
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# [14:39] <Ameya> PDT..?
# [14:39] <Callek> Ameya: Pacific (USA)
# [14:39] <jviereck> I've added a std::cout << "Hello World"; in Gecko but I can't see it when running ./dist/Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -p profile. There is no output at all which strickes me :/
# [14:39] <Callek> where its currently 6:30am
# [14:39] <Ameya> Oho..
# [14:40] <Callek> jviereck: -console
# [14:40] <Callek> jviereck: also depends on where you stuck the std::cout specifically (are you sure its being hit)
# [14:40] <Ameya> Srry... I didnt know that... I am in India..
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# [14:42] <jviereck> Callek: thanks. Should there be some output by default when passing in '-console'? My console is still empty
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# [14:42] <Callek> jviereck: by default in opt, unless I'm mistaken no
# [14:43] <Callek> you can turn on JS dump and do an error-console |dump()| to test that stuff is being outputted properly though [I don't have instructions for that handy sorry]
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# [14:46] <Ameya> mak: I am adding only few lines in getservice so I think it wont make much difference...
# [14:46] <mak> Ameya: not matter of number of lines, but what they do.
# [14:47] <mak> like, if you there run a sql query, it will hurt badly. if you call xpcom it may hurt quite a bit, and so on.
# [14:48] <mak> if you don't add a meaningful overhead, then nevermind.
# [14:48] <Ameya> mak: Yes...now I will be calling JS XPCOM component...
# [14:50] <mak> Ameya: that's why I was suggesting a cache. do you need that info synchronously? like to make a blocklist? if you need the info later you may even just store it in a cache and retrieve it later through xpcom, when you really need it.
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# [14:52] <Ameya> mak:but even to store in cache i have to use JS means I have to do somewhere else than getservice()...
# [14:52] <mak> Ameya: btw, you can make a patch and get feedback from a peer, that may be more useful than discussing the approach with me :)
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# [14:52] <Ameya> Yes...
# [14:52] <mak> Ameya: you may store it in cpp, and retrieve it later from js, afaict
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# [14:53] <Ameya> how to store addon info in cache?
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# [14:53] <Ameya> Just tell him...how does this look...Right now on small scale if any script tries to access nsCookieService in private mode then I will call JS component where URL of calling script will be given to JS xpcom which check whether this URl belongs to addon or not....
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# [14:54] <mak> may work, it depends on how much overhead the check adds and what's the scope of the check. that's what I can't evalute
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# [14:56] <Ameya> mak: how to store in cache??....
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# [14:57] <mak> whatever caching structure you think may be fine in cpp, nsTArray of structs?
# [14:57] <mak> objects? dedicated cache component?
# [14:57] <hendry> anyone have a really simple recipe to read a file off the rootfs from a extension? can that be done?
# [14:57] <mak> there is not a "cache" thing :)
# [14:58] <Ameya> :) thats why I asked how to store....
# [14:59] <Ameya> but main problem is addon info cant be accessed from cpp... I have to use JS
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# [15:00] <Ameya> thats why i was thinking to store in in DB during browserstartup() & use in getservice...
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# [15:00] <mak> I highly doubt you may ever get a review on duplicating the addons manager database in browserstartup, the world is likely finishing before (well, on december? :) )
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# [15:01] <mak> no offense, but duplicating data and doing SQL on startup are a clear request for r-
# [15:01] <Ameya> I have to complete it before May end...So does not matter what happens next...:)
# [15:01] <Ameya> :)
# [15:02] <mak> ahah, good philosophy :p
# [15:02] <Callek> mak: the Mayan Calendar never took into account leap year, which if you account for Leap Year the world should already have ended, btw
# [15:02] <mak> Callek: they surely did that on purpose
# [15:02] <Ameya> Thats another intelligent thought...
# [15:03] <Ameya> mak: do you see the problem... somewhere i have to use JS...
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# [15:04] <Callek> Ameya: but seriously, doing ANY db actions during startup scares me enough to scream at startup-perf and hope you get r-
# [15:04] <Callek> even more so if you do so by duplicating other data
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# [15:05] <mak> Ameya: so, supposing you are in a not compatible timezone with peers, I suggest you drop a mail to bmcbride at mozilla.com, explaining what you are working on, what are the problems and what's your way of approaching those.
# [15:05] <Ameya> Ok... I also thought its not efficient but i had no other way before hence tried that...
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# [15:06] <mak> and hopefully get an answer before the end of the world
# [15:06] <mak> :)
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# [15:06] <mak> but srsly, drop the idea of duplicating the db
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# [15:06] <Ameya> Actually before mid May... I need to get degree in june...
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# [15:08] <Ameya> its a part of my master's project...
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# [15:08] <mak> heh, or just come here at a later time, and try to talk to them
# [15:09] <Ameya> dropping startup() idea...I will think of JS xpcom component...
# [15:09] <mak> sure
# [15:09] <mak> btw, if it's just for a personal project, you may not be that interested in performances
# [15:10] <mak> I though t you were working on a bug
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# [15:10] <mak> for your personal project xpcom approach may work fine
# [15:10] <mak> if you want it to become part of firefox, then you may need more insight.
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# [15:11] <Ameya> Yes...I will try to send patch......
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# [15:13] <Ameya> need to be a part of FF... 3-4 months ago read that addons are not controlled by FF even in private browsing...they can access history, cookies if they want...Hence chose this topic for my project...
# [15:13] <BYK> Does anyone know if I should erase my obj-* directory for new .mozconfig to be effective?
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# [15:14] <Ameya> mak: I created addon that stores cookies, history & can send that to any one if they want.... for demo purpose..
# [15:14] <Ameya> mak: now building solution to that....
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# [15:16] <Ameya> mak: mail id for bmcbride ??? what is it actually??
# [15:16] <mak> Ameya: ah cool. you may even want to talk with Josh Matthews (jdm) that is driving a rewrite of private browsing
# [15:16] <mak> Ameya: mail id?
# [15:17] <Ameya> bmcbride ... is this a person..?
# [15:17] <mak> Ameya: I hope so!
# [15:17] <froydnj> email address, perhaps?
# [15:17] <mak> and he has a long beard
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# [15:18] <Ameya> mak: You said...I suggest you drop a mail to bmcbride at mozilla.com,
# [15:18] <Ameya> what is his email address??
# [15:18] <Callek> Ameya: bmcbride at mozilla.com replace |at| with |@| and you got it
# [15:18] <Callek> (this channel logged so protecting e-mail harvesters)
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# [15:19] <Ameya> ok..
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# [15:21] <froydnj> what is "RF" in the context of the dev-platform codec discussion?
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# [15:23] <edmorley> froydnj: royalty free perhaps?
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# [15:23] <froydnj> edmorley: ah, that makes sense. thanks!
# [15:25] <@ted> yes, that's what it is
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# [15:25] <mak> Ameya: sure thing, bye!
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# [15:35] <stepardo> Hi everybody.
# [15:35] <stepardo> I need some help debugging the "b2g" process in B2G.
# [15:35] <stepardo> Is here anybody who is working on b2g?
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# [15:37] <mak> stepardo: probably you may also try in #mobile
# [15:38] <mak> stepardo: oh, there is also a #b2g channel
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# [15:38] <@ted> mounir: we're planning on moving everything to python 2.7 soon
# [15:38] <@ted> which i think should help us future-proof for python 3
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# [15:40] <mounir> ted: I'm using python 2.7 and have no problem actually
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# [15:42] <@ted> mounir: right, i just mean getting all the build machines etc on py 2.7
# [15:42] <@ted> so we can use the future imports that let you use python 3 features
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# [15:43] <mounir> ted: ok, good to know :)
# [15:44] <@ted> i think having the same source be compatible with both 2 and 3 is hard, but we can at least preemptively fix a lot of things
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# [15:47] <mounir> ted: or magically use the correct version of python during the build process
# [15:47] <mounir> so devs don't have to change their default version just to build
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# [15:47] <@ted> we try to do the right thing in configure
# [15:47] <@ted> but it's kind of hard
# [15:48] <@ted> MOZ_PATH_PROGS(PYTHON, $PYTHON python2.7 python2.6 python2.5 python)
# [15:48] <@ted> what are your pythons named?
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# [15:49] <mounir> ted: python2 python2.7 python3 python3.1 python3.2
# [15:49] <mounir> nothing very odd I believe
# [15:49] <@ted> so i would expect it to find python2.7
# [15:49] <@ted> unless you have PYTHON set to something
# [15:49] <@ted> in your env
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# [15:49] <mounir> echo $PYTHON returns the empty string
# [15:49] <mounir> so I guess not
# [15:50] <mounir> but make -f client.mk did fail because I was using python3.2
# [15:50] <@ted> hrm
# [15:50] <mounir> if that's a bug, I would be glad to investigate later today
# [15:50] <@ted> oh
# [15:50] <@ted> ugh
# [15:50] <@ted> we're invoking python before configure there aren't we
# [15:50] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/client.mk#107
# [15:50] <@ted> yeah
# [15:51] <@ted> blah
# [15:51] <@ted> we'd have to change that to work more like the one in configure
# [15:51] <@ted> which is tricky
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# [15:52] <@ted> i guess we could possibly do something like
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# [15:52] <@ted> PYTHON ?= $(firstword $(shell which python2.7 python2.6 python2.5 python))
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# [15:52] <@ted> not sure if that works reliably everywhere
# [15:54] <mounir> ted: because of the shell syntax or because of the binary names?
# [15:54] <@ted> not sure how portable the functionality of which is, actually
# [15:54] <@ted> it's not POSIX AFAIK
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# [16:04] <jnmichaud> I have a question regarding <canvas> and the drawImage command, specifically in FireFox 10 in Windows 7 64 bit. I'm writing a web app that uses .drawImage and it's not working correctly, but only in windows 7 64 bit. (My home computer runs the same version of firefox, so does my wife's. Both work fine.)
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# [16:04] <jnmichaud> Full details are here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9687122/html5-canvas-drawimage-issue-in-windows-7-but-only-in-firefox
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# [16:06] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, if you go to about:support, what does it list under Graphics?
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# [16:07] <Ms2ger> Hmm, 25% heap-unclassified
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# [16:07] <Ms2ger> Back in my day, that was like 60%
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# [16:08] <jnmichaud> about support? What specifically am I looking at?
# [16:08] <IanN> did something break nsIDOMDataContainerEvent recently?
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# [16:09] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, enter "about:support" in the location bar
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# [16:09] <jnmichaud> found it. looking now.
# [16:09] <IanN> I'm getting errors when trying to build in mozilla/dom/interfaces/events, do I need to clobber?
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> IanN, wasn't me
# [16:10] <@smaug> IanN: yes
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# [16:10] <Ms2ger> Jason Duell - Bug 664163: Yes this will get backed out: see bug. r=jdm
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> Wut
# [16:10] <@smaug> IanN: and you may need to delete *.pyc files in xpcom/idl-something
# [16:10] <IanN> Ms2ger: yeah, not always you, I know ;)
# [16:10] <@smaug> IanN: xpcom/idl-parser
# [16:11] <@smaug> IanN: srcdir/xpcom/idl-parser
# [16:11] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [16:11] <Ms2ger> khuey's fault, then
# [16:11] <@smaug> yes!
# [16:11] <kats> just a heads-up, i will be merging maple to m-c shortly
# [16:11] <kats> also triggering a clobber build for it
# [16:12] <Ms2ger> What's on maple?
# [16:12] <jnmichaud> @Ms2ger It's NVIDIA Quadro 600 ...There's a lot of details. Do you want me to just post them here? (Messy)
# [16:12] <IanN> leaves?
# [16:12] <IanN> pancakes?
# [16:12] <kats> Ms2ger: maple has off-main thread compositing, mostly being used in fennec native
# [16:12] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, paste the last row, maybe?
# [16:12] <kats> impact on non-android platforms should be minimal
# [16:12] <jnmichaud> GPU Accelerated Windows2/2 Direct3D 10
# [16:12] <Ms2ger> kats, ah, good
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# [16:13] <hsivonen_> edmorley: sorry about the flag reset. I blame Firefox.
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# [16:13] <jnmichaud> Only thing I see there that looks odd is this: ClearType ParametersClearType parameters not found
# [16:14] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [16:14] <edmorley> hsivonen_: no worries, just wanted to make sure it wasn't intentional :-)
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# [16:15] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, could you try disabling GPU acceleration as described on http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-disable-gpu-hardware-acceleration-in-firefox-4/ ?
# [16:15] <jnmichaud> Looking now.
# [16:16] <Ms2ger> G'afternoon, edmorley
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# [16:16] <edmorley> Ms2ger: Good afternoon :-)
# [16:17] <jesup> kats: phew! I merged m-c to alder ahead of your maple merge!
# [16:17] <kats> jesup: argh :(
# [16:18] <IanN> smaug: :( that didn't fix it
# [16:18] <kats> oh wait, m-c to alder, not the other way around
# [16:18] <kats> that's all good then :)
# [16:18] <@smaug> IanN: removing .pyc and clobber ?
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# [16:18] <@smaug> IanN: you did remove .pyc in the source directory, not in objdir, right?
# [16:18] <@smaug> IanN: could you pastebin the error
# [16:19] <IanN> smaug: yeah, just doing it again to make sure
# [16:19] <jnmichaud> Ms2ger Just tried it and it crashed Firefox. Coincidentally, FireFox had the 11.0 update waiting at the same time. I just retried it without the hardware acceleration and it worked correctly. I'm about to check it again with the acceleration. just a moment.
# [16:19] <Ms2ger> Woops
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# [16:20] <edmorley> win32 nightly partial update not applying after 4 tries :-(
# [16:20] <edmorley> and full didn't work either, weird
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# [16:22] <kats> so i got a commit message hook failure
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# [16:22] <kats> some of the patches in the merge don't have r= even though everything is reviewed. is there a way to avoid the hook?
# [16:23] <IanN> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1518856
# [16:23] <jnmichaud> Ms2ger Ok. re-enabled hardware acceleration and it stopped working again. (It was working with it disabled).
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# [16:23] <@smaug> IanN: that is the same error I and others got yesterday
# [16:23] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, I suspected that would happen
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> Let me see if I find a bug
# [16:24] <@smaug> removing *.pyc from the source dir, and doing a clobber did help here
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# [16:24] <Ms2ger> kats, yes, "IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES"
# [16:24] <@smaug> khuey|away would know more
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> But let me verify the wording
# [16:24] <kats> Ms2ger: thanks, found it on https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [16:25] <jnmichaud> Coincidentally, not all drawImage instances seem to be failing. ...One of the functions that I know uses a drawImage command is definitely working. I'm a bit puzzled now.
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# [16:25] <Ms2ger> Don't see anything...
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# [16:26] <@smaug> Bas might know more about that drawImage problem
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# [16:26] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, could you file a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core / Canvas: 2D, with a small test case?
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# [16:27] <@smaug> jnmichaud: and copy the relevant parts of about:support to the bug report
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# [16:27] <nemo> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms12-020 - for any of you still using windows
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# [16:28] <jnmichaud> Ms2ger I'll have to see if I can reproduce it first. This is one of my personal projects and the only computer I have access to that it's failing on is my work computer. I'll try to find time to build a test case later today that reproduces the problem.
# [16:28] <jnmichaud> I appreciate the help.
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [16:33] <Ms2ger> "Wow, we should delete API features more often."
# [16:33] <Ms2ger> jdm++
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# [16:34] <gcp> edmorley: I have this too
# [16:34] <gcp> edmorley: updating nightly broke
# [16:35] <edmorley> I'm about to file
# [16:35] <edmorley> I'll cc
# [16:35] <NeilAway> smaug: I don't suppose you know much about shutdown triggering numerous GCs? I was using Gecko 2, though, so it might have been fixed since...
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# [16:35] <espindola> is there any guarantee when a xpcom object destructor is called when it is used from js?
# [16:36] <mcot> hi
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# [16:36] <@smaug> NeilAway: Shutdown does trigger many CCs
# [16:36] <IanN> smaug: it is strange because it creates 3 *.pyc files without a clobber and 4 files with a clobber, the extra one being header.pyc
# [16:36] <@smaug> and could, I think, also trigger many GCs
# [16:37] <@smaug> IanN: blame khuey|away :)
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# [16:37] <@smaug> I think he is fixing the issue
# [16:37] <Ms2ger> That, or running away from justice
# [16:37] <IanN> both
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# [16:40] <kats> what's up with the OS X 64 builds? some sort of network problems?
# [16:40] <kats> tbpl has a stream of blues on both inbound and central
# [16:41] <IanN> smaug: another pull from trunk seems to have fixed the issue (fingers crossed)
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# [16:41] <catlee> wow
# [16:41] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [16:42] <catlee> same slave looks like
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# [16:42] <Ms2ger> could not lookup DNS configuration info service: (ipc/send) invalid destination port
# [16:42] <Ms2ger> abort: error: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
# [16:42] <Ms2ger> program finished with exit code 255
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# [16:44] <Ms2ger> jaws, your ignorance, btw :)
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# [16:44] <Ms2ger> do_QueryObject is used for Querying concrete Objects
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# [16:47] <IanN> smaug: ah, I was premature :( still failing - looks at khuey|away
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# [16:47] <WG9s> I just looked at tbpl and have not been invloved here becuase I was afk.
# [16:48] <WG9s> do we have a handle on this, or should the tree be closed?
# [16:48] <@smaug> IanN: you did remove objdir and all the *.pyc files in the srcdir ?
# [16:48] <@smaug> very strange the it doesn't help
# [16:48] <fabrice> !seen anant
# [16:48] <firebot> anant was last seen 18 hours, 12 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'please assign the bug to me' in #openwebapps.
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# [16:49] <Ms2ger> WG9s, catlee was taking the slave behind the shed
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# [16:49] <NeilAway> smaug: every overlay prototype document appears to trigger a gc when it is destroyed :-(
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# [16:49] <WG9s> ah the old leather strap behind the woodshed thing
# [16:50] <catlee> bots gone wild
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# [16:50] <WG9s> Is that coming out on DVD soon?
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# [16:51] <IanN> smaug: well only the *.pyc from the srcdir/mozilla/xpcom/idl-parser
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# [16:51] <@smaug> IanN: yeah, that should be enough. ... very strange
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# [16:52] <edmorley> gcp: filed bug 735693 on the nightly update issue
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> <NeilAway> mak: sadly I'm sitting at a Windows 95 PC
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# [16:52] <jnmichaud> Ms2ger thanks again. I'll be posting a bug report later (provided I can reproduce it).
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> jnmichaud, thanks!
# [16:52] <mak> Ms2ger: yes, was amusing :p
# [16:53] <Ms2ger> mak, can't we get MoCo to ship him something more recent? :)
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# [16:54] <mak> Ms2ger: like winME?
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> WinXPsp1? :)
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# [16:55] <NeilAway> IanN: the 3.51 box died before I noticed that SM1.1.17 (?) dropped support for 3.51
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# [16:56] <NeilAway> IanN: my home page still runs on NT4 though
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# [16:56] <IanN> :)
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# [16:56] <zzzzz> some needs to tak s: moz2-darwin10-slave26 out behind the shed and shoot it
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> zzzzz, yes, catlee is on it
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# [16:57] <catlee> it's been rebooted and seems ok now
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> the timing code is very old
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> but it's super-easy to regress tp by changing it
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> so I haven't
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> <3 talos
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# [16:58] <gabor> anyone knows something about how do javascript implemented components work under the hood?
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# [17:00] <hsivonen_> hmm. WebKit calls to Apple-private APIs a lot in order to use QuickTime for HTML5 video
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> gabor, "badly"? :)
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# [17:02] <gabor> Ms2ger: I already figured out that part :)
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> Well, XPConnect
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# [17:03] <gabor> Ms2ger: do you know someone who might knows more about this part?
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# [17:03] <Ms2ger> Your usual suspects
# [17:03] <Ms2ger> bholley, mrbkap
# [17:03] <gabor> right...
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# [17:05] <Ms2ger> Oh, the pwn2own bug was Waldo's? :)
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# [17:06] <Ms2ger> gabor, http://i.qkme.me/36kr7a.jpg
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# [17:08] <gabor> Ms2ger: stop trolling me :) even you cann't beat xpconnect in that anyway...
# [17:08] <Ms2ger> (http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/)
# [17:08] <Ms2ger> jdm++
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# [17:09] <Ms2ger> <@khuey> nobody is allowed to write makefiles anymore
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> khuey++
# [17:09] <sheppy> XPConnect is pretty much the Force chokehold of the Mozilla universe.
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# [17:12] <edmorley> speak of the devil :-)
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Hi bholley!
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Our favourite devil!
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# [17:19] <bholley> Ms2ger, edmorley: g'mornin!
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# [17:20] <Ms2ger> <gabor> anyone knows something about how do javascript implemented components work under the hood?
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> Ah, #content
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# [17:20] <gabor> Ms2ger: thanks anyway...
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> Np: )
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# [17:22] <nemo> wow! http://peter.upfold.org.uk/blog/2011/09/28/un-hide-the-http-in-firefox-7/#comment-134463 That's the perfect way to handle it!
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# [17:22] <nemo> I'd totally stop hating on the feature if firefox did that!
# [17:22] <nemo> Firefox should copy Opera instead of Chrome on this one...
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# [17:22] <Ms2ger> Opera did it first, of course
# [17:22] <nemo> ah
# [17:22] <nemo> first and best apparently
# [17:23] <nemo> Ms2ger: that's the same way firefox handles domain highlighting - just makes sense...
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# [17:23] <nemo> I should use opera more often... the only thing I've fallen in love with is their awesome awesome about:cache
# [17:23] <logiclord> gerv I think there is a duplicacy for project title "Thunderbird Get Satisfaction support dashboard" at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode12
# [17:24] <gerv> logiclord: Thanks.
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# [17:25] <logiclord> gerv I was not able to figure our how to contact mentor as mentioned via forum... I registered on mozillian.org but I think my account is not approved hence I can't view profiles
# [17:25] <gerv> logiclord: Which mentor in particular?
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# [17:26] <logiclord> 2-3 thunderbird projects
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# [17:26] <gerv> Give me the names, and I'll give you email addresses :-)
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# [17:27] <logiclord> wait bienvenu and jb
# [17:28] <sid0> "The Update could not be installed (patch apply failed)"
# [17:28] <taras> who owns personas?
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# [17:28] <taras> or themes
# [17:28] <Fallen> logiclord: you can find bienvenu in #maildev
# [17:28] <Ms2ger> taras, you mean browserid? :)
# [17:28] <taras> whatever you call those
# [17:28] <Fallen> the same for jb
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# [17:28] <taras> Ms2ger: not a helpful answer :)
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# [17:29] <logiclord> Fallen on it. Thanks
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# [17:30] <philor> taras: try to make dao own whatever your problem is, if he doesn't he'll at least have to force someone else to
# [17:30] <taras> philor: i will do that, thanks
# [17:30] <jbuck> sid0: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735713
# [17:31] <edmorley> sid0: I had the same, filed bug 735693, if you could comment there too please that would be great :-)
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# [17:31] <sid0> jbuck: yeah, found it
# [17:31] <philor> the same reason people panic and look for a tbpl tab when I ping them, whether or not they've pushed anything
# [17:32] <sid0> edmorley: looks like a dup
# [17:32] <jtcranmer> taras: because people don't typically ask for people if they want to praise them?
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# [17:32] <taras> philor: :)
# [17:32] <sid0> ehsan: is the patch you attached the right one?
# [17:32] <sid0> philor++
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# [17:33] <sid0> ehsan: that looks like something to do with css parsing
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# [17:33] <edmorley> sid0: ah yeah, might as well forward dupe I guess as ehsan's has patch
# [17:33] <db48x> philor: lol
# [17:33] <joe> GPHemsley: maple branch is yours
# [17:33] <@smaug> is there a list of bugs fixed in FF11 somewhere ?
# [17:33] <@smaug> like bugzilla query
# [17:33] <@ehsan> wut?!
# [17:34] <@ehsan> oh yeah
# [17:34] <@ehsan> lemme attach the right patch :)
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# [17:34] * @smaug wonders if he did anything for FF11 :)
# [17:34] <@ehsan> bbondy: uploaded the right patch :)
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# [17:35] <mccr8> smaug: you could look back at your old weekly statuses from around that period
# [17:35] <@smaug> oh, event ctors. that is possibly in FF11
# [17:35] <tchevalier> lmandel: Hi :) Just to be sure, you want I update the opt-in message in bug 730955, right?
# [17:35] <@ehsan> edmorley: duped you
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# [17:36] <lmandel> tchevalier: If you could. :)
# [17:36] <bbondy> ehsan: I have a feeling that won't work when doing minor updates.
# [17:36] <tchevalier> lmandel: Sure, I can :) I do it
# [17:36] <lmandel> tchevalier: Thanks. Much appreciated.
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# [17:37] <@ehsan> bbondy: for minor updates, the return value will be 0
# [17:37] <sid0> oh god ftp's being so slow...
# [17:37] <bbondy> I mean like a1 -> a2
# [17:37] <bbondy> or a1 -> b1
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# [17:38] <@ehsan> bbondy: NS_VersionCompare(x.0a1, x.0b1) should return -1
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# [17:39] <sid0> hm, I'm having really bad luck today, now seeing sec_error_bad_database messages on https sites
# [17:39] <bbondy> I think we've had at least one new version upgrade since this hit though on m-c 13
# [17:39] <@ehsan> bbondy: what version upgrade?
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# [17:39] <@ehsan> nightly has been 13.0a1 all along
# [17:40] <@ehsan> which is why nobody hit this bug until today
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# [17:40] <philor> ted: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10062880&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - do we not have symbols for Linux64, or are the broken, or in the wrong place?
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# [17:41] <bbondy> k so I'm thinking we probably want to put the version of the mars back to 13 for an update
# [17:42] <@ehsan> bbondy: I think we should downgrade m-c for a while
# [17:42] <@ted> philor: that is an excellent question
# [17:42] <@ehsan> I mean downgrade the version of course
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# [17:42] <bbondy> ya
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# [17:42] <@ehsan> not sure what kind of effect that would have on mac and linux though
# [17:42] <@ted> philor: i was wondering that myself after catlee showed a build log that had a symbol-free stack
# [17:42] <@ehsan> and also mobile
# [17:42] <@ted> philor: local testing shows that it works fine
# [17:42] <philor> ted: and yay, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10059845&tree=Mozilla-Inbound has symbols for an Android crash... in NSS :(
# [17:42] <@ted> well
# [17:42] <@ted> progress
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# [17:43] <bbondy> ehsan: the cehck is only made on windows at the moment
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# [17:43] <@ted> philor: mm, that particular linux64 crash is weird
# [17:43] <@ted> all those threads are in system libs
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# [17:43] <@ehsan> bbondy: yeah I know
# [17:43] <@ted> philor: hooray for android stacks though
# [17:44] <@ehsan> but I don't know what happens when a mac with fx 14.0a1 sees an update for 13.0a1
# [17:44] <bbondy> ah ok
# [17:44] <@ehsan> I think the solutions should be discussed on release-drivers
# [17:44] <@ehsan> with rs in the loop
# [17:44] <bbondy> ehsan: we don't need to downgrade it we just need to hardcode a value in the mar
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# [17:45] <bbondy> that value being 13.0a1
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> bbondy: not sure how feasible that would be...
# [17:45] <bbondy> why? it's just a 1 line change to libmar
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# [17:48] <robcee> I'm getting a broken build today, xpidl error in nsIDOMUIEvent.idl. Known?
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# [17:49] <@ted> what's the xpidl error?
# [17:49] <robcee> first is: tok = self.errorfunc(errtoken)
# [17:49] <robcee> File "/Volumes/Data/FXTEAM/fx-team-working/xpcom/idl-parser/xpidl.py", line 1563, in p_error
# [17:49] <robcee> raise IDLError("invalid syntax", location)
# [17:49] <robcee> xpidl.IDLError: error: invalid syntax, /Volumes/Data/FXTEAM/fx-team-working/dom/interfaces/events/nsIDOMEvent.idl line 185:0
# [17:49] <robcee> dictionary EventInit
# [17:49] <robcee> there's another one at ... line 77
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# [17:51] <@smaug> Remove <srcdir>/xpcom/idl-parser/*.pyc and do a clobber. That helped for me, but apparently didn't work for IanN
# [17:51] <@smaug> robcee: ^
# [17:51] <mdas> pierron: ping!
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# [17:52] <Ms2ger> Who reviewed this?!
# [17:52] <pierron> mdas: pong
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# [17:52] <@smaug> Ms2ger: what? I hope not me :)
# [17:52] <bbondy> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Elm&rev=d3befcff0d50
# [17:52] <Ms2ger> khuey :)
# [17:52] <robcee> smaug: I will try, thanks!
# [17:53] <robcee> (seems to me I did that recently with the xpidl.py changes...)
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# [17:54] <IanN> yeah, I'm sure I'd already done it previously too, but I do have more than one build machine, so not 100% sure which one I'd done it on
# [17:55] <Ms2ger> There was another issue with xpidllex.py a while ago
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# [17:55] <robcee> I should clobber anyway. New version number!
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# [17:56] <mdas> pierron: hey there, I just read your email about your hg-git bridge, thanks! You offered commit access, but I'm not clear on what commit access you're talking about
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# [17:57] <mdas> pierron: I was thinking of taking the code and setting up a similar bridge on a machine and running it there, but did you mean your machine could do that on our behalf?
# [17:57] <pierron> mdas: I offer commit access to the git-hg bridge. So you can push to hg with your own name/key.
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# [17:58] <pierron> mdas: each push that you do on a master branch is pushed to the git-hg bridge, and then it tries to push it to hg server with your private key (forwarded agent)
# [17:58] <pierron> mdas: so you still own your pushes.
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# [18:00] <pierron> mdas: if you have no right to push to hg (like push -f), then hg will refuse and the git mirror will refuse your update of the master branch.
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# [18:02] <mdas> pierron: okay, so in my setup, I have a git repository that needs mirroring onto an hg.m.o repository. If I push to the git repo, how does the hg-git bridge detect the push? Is it based on a cron that pulls the repo and checks for changes?
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# [18:02] <pierron> mdas: the computer that I set-up should do that if you can access it with ssh (why I need your public key, and your hg-username to setup the comm with hg.m.o)
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# [18:03] <pierron> mdas: if you push to git, then there is a commit hook which is synchronous and convert to hg.
# [18:03] <charles_wh_chan> hi I think I need some help with resolving the patch for bug 729111, is there a specific channel I should discuss?
# [18:03] <charles_wh_chan> someone a simple ui change seems to have caused a bunch of memory leaks :(
# [18:04] <pierron> mdas: does the hg.m.o exists already ?
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# [18:04] <pierron> mdas: from my short experience with hg-git, mixing multiple clone made with hg-git does not work well.
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# [18:05] <mdas> pierron: that is very cool, thanks! I'll speak with ctalbert because we'll have quite few git-hg mirroring projects going on, so we may want to set up our own machine instead of asking you to deal with it on our behalf :) If not, I'll give you my information as soon as the repo is set up
# [18:05] <AryehGregor> krit, pong.
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# [18:06] <sid0> ehsan: is the update bug Windows nightly or all nightly?
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# [18:06] <mdas> pierron: no, I'm waiting on the repo (and a new user) to be created
# [18:06] <sid0> that looks like all nightly
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# [18:06] <pierron> mdas: do you want to enable pushes to hg.m.o for your repo ?
# [18:06] <bhearsum> sid0: we only verify MARs on windows, i think
# [18:07] <sid0> bhearsum: huh
# [18:07] <sid0> bhearsum: that's strange
# [18:07] <bhearsum> i know we only sign them on windows...
# [18:07] <pierron> mdas: if you don't want pushes, then just using hg-git should work fine for mirroring.
# [18:07] <bhearsum> we might look at the version/product info everywhere, not sure
# [18:07] <sid0> yeah, I'd imagine we do that
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# [18:07] <@ted> philor: FWIW, that NSS fennec crash appears to be in strcmp
# [18:07] <@ted> which is pretty dumb
# [18:07] <sid0> that looks like cross-platform code
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# [18:07] <bhearsum> i'm sure it's functional cross platform, i'm just not sure if it's used
# [18:08] <bhearsum> bbondy knows for sure
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# [18:08] <mdas> pierron: no, all of our development work is in git, and should be mirrored to hg, so the mirroring is oneway
# [18:08] <bhearsum> ehsan's mail to release-drivers says Windows only, fwiw
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# [18:08] <@ted> sid0: i think the reasoning is because we're running the updater as a privileged service on windows
# [18:08] <jlebar> philor, ping?
# [18:08] <@ted> so we don't want to invite privilege escalation attacks
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# [18:08] <pierron> mdas: ok, then you don't need git-hg-bridge, only hg-git mercurial extension should be enough for mirroring ;)
# [18:09] <@ted> if we're running the updater as the same user as the app it's not as big of a problem
# [18:09] <bbondy2> bhearsum: re "bbondy knows for sure" do you mean if the check is done on other platforms? It is only done on windows
# [18:09] <@ted> we already serve mars over HTTPS and check a hash, i think
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# [18:09] <mdas> pierron: that's what I was thinking, but that extension doesn't have support for branches
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# [18:09] <bhearsum> bbondy2: yeah
# [18:10] <mdas> pierron: I was under the impression that your hg-git bridge did
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# [18:10] <pierron> mdas: it converts branches into bookmarks
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# [18:11] <pierron> mdas: ok, then this makes sense and you can use git-hg-bridge ;)
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# [18:12] <pierron> mdas: you mean that you want one repository per branch, right ?
# [18:12] <pierron> mdas: one hg repository.
# [18:12] <NeilAway> Unfocused/Mossop: so, I was testing Frederic Wang's math font extension...
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# [18:13] <mdas> pierron: is it possible to have branches within the same repository with your bridge?
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# [18:14] <philor> jlebar: pong
# [18:14] <mdas> pierron: We don't need it at this time, most likely all development will stay on the 'master' branch, but it's good knowledge to have moving forward
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# [18:15] <jlebar> philor, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735574 Should we back out bug 729111 to see if it's causing the leak?
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# [18:16] <jlebar> philor, Poor new contributor causes randomorange with tiny, innocuous-looking change.
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# [18:16] <philor> jlebar: I'd say so, but what we really want is to back it out on inbound right after a merge to m-c, at the start of a busy day, so we get the most runs possible before we merge it
# [18:16] <pierron> mdas: the git-hg-bridge mirror every hg-repo to a git-repo, the bridge part is one hg-all-repo and one git-all-repo. So you can fork and use the git-all-repo for your branches.
# [18:16] <philor> and yeah, I was awfully glad when I looked back and at least bugzilla wasn't saying "first patch" "new to bugzilla" for him :)
# [18:16] <pierron> mdas: mirror both ways
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# [18:17] <bhearsum> next uplift is on my birthday!
# [18:17] <pierron> mdas: it plays with the bookmarks and the branch names to know in which mercurial it should push the changes.
# [18:17] <jlebar> philor, Sounds like a plan.
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# [18:18] <jlebar> Ooh, mbrubeck just merged?
# [18:18] <mdas> pierron: what is meant by 'hg-all-repo' and 'git-all-repo' ?
# [18:19] <jlebar> philor, Would you like to back out, or should I?
# [18:19] <pierron> mdas: it collect all hg-repos / git-repos into one.
# [18:19] <philor> jlebar: could you? I have something like 4 minutes left before I have to get ready for work
# [18:19] <jlebar> philor, sure thing.
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# [18:19] <mbrubeck> jlebar: Actually edmorley merged a couple hours ago but I decided to help mark bugs while I was in a meeting. :P
# [18:19] <philor> but, what merge?
# [18:19] <mdas> pierron: ah, I got you, so I can refer to this repo as if it has a bunch of branches, but those branches are actually individual repositories?
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# [18:20] <edmorley> <3 mbrubeck :-)
# [18:21] <mbrubeck> edmorley: Working from the tip down, I made it to 62c8e6a841e7
# [18:21] <edmorley> I've been seeing the open merge tab all day reminding me that I had it left to do after work
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# [18:21] <edmorley> mbrubeck: awesome, thank you :-)
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# [18:22] <sheppy> Hey all, I could use your help: if there are any major gaps or areas you'd like to see vastly improved coverage of in our documentation, please let me know. We're working up a list of things to contract out writing work on.
# [18:22] <pierron> mdas: They really exists, they are not «virtual repository». Each time you push into a git-repo, it push into the git-bridge (git-all-repo), converts the commit to changeset of of the hg-bridge (hg-all-repo) and ask the corresponding hg-repo for authentification.
# [18:22] <NeilAway> !seen dao
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# [18:23] * KaiRo discovers gal's real sinister objectives from that m.d.platform posting: to make the MPEG people be caught so much in the brouhaha that Mozilla is going to support H.264 that they forget to submit anything for WebRTC!
# [18:23] <pierron> mdas: authentification which is needed to push to the hg-repo.
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# [18:24] <pierron> mdas: but I am sure you can work on top of my scripts/hooks ;)
# [18:24] <pierron> mdas: or modify them as you want.
# [18:24] <Ms2ger> fabrice, please add the b2g version to the list of things to update
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# [18:24] <Ms2ger> I think it's on a wiki somewhere
# [18:24] <jesup> kairo: I'm subverting his plan by trying not to be sucked in (too much)
# [18:25] <KaiRo> jesup: hehe
# [18:25] <mdas> pierron: ah, I see now
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# [18:25] <fabrice> Ms2ger: ok
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# [18:26] <mdas> pierron: thanks for the clarification! I'll speak with ctalbert and see if we want to bring our own machine into this and set up automation that way for future repos :)
# [18:26] <pierron> mdas: ok ;)
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# [18:27] <pierron> mdas: do you want me to create a dedicated repository for it ?
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# [18:29] <fabrice> Ms2ger: looks like it's at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Merge_Documentation
# [18:29] <jlebar> edmorley, Can you ping me when the m-c --> m-i merge is done? I have a backout I'd like to do on m-i right after the merge.
# [18:29] <jlebar> edmorley, (Or you can back out https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729111 .)
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# [18:29] <Ms2ger> fabrice, yes, that looks corrct
# [18:29] <Ms2ger> correct, even
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# [18:30] <edmorley> jlebar: I can do an m-c to m-i now :-)
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# [18:31] <edmorley> although it's still a bit grey on m-c
# [18:32] <edmorley> might leave it a bit longer
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# [18:36] <edmorley> lol @ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/-xTei5rYThU/2T00wxsDGhMJ
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# [18:39] <mak> see all that blue, so relaxing color
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# [18:40] <kats> lol
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# [18:40] <kats> not for somebody who just landed a lot of changes
# [18:40] <kats> i'd prefer green
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# [18:41] <sid0> I can't make heads or tails of the new groups ui
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# [18:42] <sid0> there seems to be a nonsensical amount of whitespace
# [18:42] <@ted> like every other google product now
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# [18:43] <edmorley> sid0: the compact list view mode helps a bit
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# [18:44] <mdas> pierron: sorry for the delay, I was afk. I don't think that's necessary yet, we're most likely going to use the bridge on our own machines and i'll set up the repos there
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# [18:44] <sid0> edmorley: how do you do that
# [18:44] <sid0> I only see tree/flat
# [18:45] <edmorley> sid0: oh I meant the topics list, sorry
# [18:46] <sid0> ah
# [18:46] <sid0> that helps but not for individual threads
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# [18:47] <charles_wh_chan> jlebar, thanks your help on bug 729111. Looks like I should just wait at this time :) (nothing to be done)
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# [18:48] <jlebar> charles_wh_chan, Yes. :) It's very strange, whatever is going on.
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# [18:51] <pierron> mdas: if you need any help ;) Where are you located ?
# [18:52] <mdas> pierron: thanks, I'm located in Toronto
# [18:52] <AryehGregor> Yay, it turns out the bug I just reported was caused by me.
# [18:52] <AryehGregor> That's a first for me!
# [18:53] <AryehGregor> (thanks to Alice0775 White, who is awesome)
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# [18:53] <smontagu> what's the strange counter thingy in today's build?
# [18:53] <Ms2ger> Indeed so!
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# [18:53] <AryehGregor> (I was too lazy to bisect it :( )
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# [18:53] <mjessome> smontagu: if it's the pink counter in the top left corner, I was just wondering the same.
# [18:53] <pierron> mdas: So if you want a tour of the current bridge with screen, I am sure I set it up. ;)
# [18:53] <AryehGregor> (I started, but it just takes too long . . .)
# [18:53] <smontagu> white digits on a magenta backrougnd
# [18:54] <kats> that sounds like the fps counter
# [18:54] <AryehGregor> What does it mean when you have orange but clicking on it doesn't say which tests failed, like the OS X debug reftests here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=975dd82afb07
# [18:54] <kats> is that showing up in desktop?
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# [18:54] <smontagu> kats: fps?
# [18:55] <mjessome> kats: I just built from a clean m-c clone, and i didn't use my own mozconfig
# [18:55] <kats> frames per second
# [18:55] <kats> BenWa: ^
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# [18:55] <kats> is the fps counter enabled on desktop, or did i break that?
# [18:55] <mdas> pierron: sure I'd like to see how you currently use it. We're have to prepare for any kind of hg-git projects in the future, so it'll be useful to see it!
# [18:56] <BenWa> kats: Maybe the pref is in the wrong location
# [18:56] <mdas> pierron: when would you have time available? I should probably reel in dietrich, unless he's already seen it
# [18:56] <AryehGregor> Is Alice0775 White paid QA or just a random awesome person?
# [18:56] <BenWa> the pref should only be set in the mobile pref.js
# [18:56] <smontagu> BenWa: what is the pref?
# [18:56] <edmorley> AryehGregor: "Output exceeded 52428800 bytes, remaining output has been truncated", means log was too long
# [18:57] <BenWa> smontagu: layers.acceleration.draw-fps
# [18:57] <pierron> mdas: at anytime, except 1pm-2pm PDT tomorrow.
# [18:57] <AryehGregor> edmorley, so that means there was some failure but we have no idea what it was because it was too far into the log?
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# [18:57] <BenWa> smontagu: kats: It' got set in the wrong file, posting a patch
# [18:57] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, random awesome person or AI, I think
# [18:58] <kats> BenWa: thanks
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# [18:58] <mdas> pierron: does 11am PDT tomorrow work for you?
# [18:58] <smontagu> kats, BenWa: does that mean that on mobile it's supposed to be there?
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# [18:59] <edmorley> AryehGregor: I can't remember whether the log being too large can cause the orange on it's own or not, or whether it still means there was a failure after the truncation, philor will know
# [18:59] <BenWa> I don't know
# [18:59] <kats> no, it should be off but i remember when i took out of the mobile .js file it defaulted to on
# [18:59] <BenWa> Did we have the FPS on by default before maple?
# [18:59] <kats> no
# [18:59] <kats> do you pass in a default where you read the pref?
# [18:59] <BenWa> ok so turning it off by default then
# [19:00] <BenWa> no, the pref default is false
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# [19:03] <BenWa> fps counter fix: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org//show_bug.cgi?id=735763
# [19:03] <gerv> Possibly :-)
# [19:03] <gerv> Thanks.
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# [19:06] <froydnj> AryehGregor: I was amused by that bug :)
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# [19:06] <AryehGregor> froydnj, which one?
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# [19:06] <froydnj> AryehGregor: bug 735373
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# [19:07] <AryehGregor> It was so crazy I knew it had to be a recent regression.
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# [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7e158ac25de3 - Benoit Girard - Bug 735763 - Turn off FPS by default. r=kats
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# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a888f210af4e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 735713 - Make sure that we can update users if the version of the application has been bumped up; r=rstrong
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# [19:21] <bhearsum> bbondy: when you file the bug to fix up m-c users, can you put it in RelEng?
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# [19:21] <bbondy> sure
# [19:21] <bhearsum> thanks!
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# [19:22] <@ehsan> bbondy: CC me too please?
# [19:22] <bbondy> I'll CC everyone ya
# [19:22] <bbondy> I'll just move it now
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# [19:23] <@ted> how does compare-talos work, does it compare results of a try push to results on m-c?
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# [19:24] <Ms2ger> What makes you think it works?
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# [19:26] <@ted> ...
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# [19:29] <philor> AryehGregor: the bug in an overflow is whatever spewed so much it overflowed, in this case bug 720618, but you still need to retrigger it since you don't know what might have failed later
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# [19:29] <AryehGregor> philor, what do you mean by "retrigger"?
# [19:29] <AryehGregor> Rerun the tests to make sure there was nothing problematic in the run that was missed?
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# [19:31] <philor> AryehGregor: yeah, when you click on the letter for a failed test run on tbpl, down at the bottom just left of center there's a blue "+" - click that, it retriggers that test run
# [19:31] <AryehGregor> Oh, I see.
# [19:31] <AryehGregor> Thanks.
# [19:32] <AryehGregor> Do I have a username and password?
# [19:32] <philor> you do
# [19:32] <philor> do you know what they are? that's a different question :)
# [19:32] <AryehGregor> Same as Bugzilla, or something else?
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> Same as LDAP
# [19:33] <Ms2ger> Which you use for pushing to hg
# [19:33] <AryehGregor> Hmm.
# [19:33] <Ms2ger> (Should have got it with your L1 access)
# [19:34] * AryehGregor searches e-mail
# [19:34] <AryehGregor> . . . who would have told me about it?
# [19:34] <philor> or are you an employee, which complicates your LDAP situation?
# [19:34] <Ms2ger> Hmm
# [19:34] <AryehGregor> I'm a contractor.
# [19:35] <philor> Hmm
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> Right :/
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# [19:37] <Bas> terrence: You broke windows builds :)
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# [19:37] <philor> terrence++
# [19:37] <philor> saves lots of trouble
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# [19:38] <romaxa> vladan: ping
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# [19:41] <drice> What is the thunderbird dev channel?
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# [19:41] <vladan> romaxa: hey
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# [19:43] <Standard8> drice: #maildev
# [19:43] <drice> Thanks
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# [19:44] <terrence> whoops: will get right on that
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# [19:46] <Honza> window.globalStorage support has been removed (in favor of localStorage), correct?
# [19:46] <dholbert|zzz> t
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# [19:46] <Ms2ger> Correct
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# [19:49] <jviereck> Callek: thanks a lot. I finally got it working :) Missed to build in one of the subdirs
# [19:50] <terrence> philor: last time I did this, a simple hg backout ... followed by hg push worked
# [19:50] <terrence> philor: is there some new magic I need to know of?
# [19:51] <Callek> jviereck: your welcome. Glad you figured it out.
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# [19:51] <romaxa> vladan: are you able to review that ARM SPS profiler patch?
# [19:52] <edmorley> terrence: ehsan's already backed it out aiui
# [19:52] <@ehsan> yep
# [19:52] <terrence> edmorley, ehsan: thanks!
# [19:52] <@ehsan> np
# [19:52] <terrence> that explains why "no changes found" i guess
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# [19:56] <vladan> romaxa: yup, doing that now
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# [20:00] * AryehGregor changes topic to 'Next uplift: 24th April || New/want to help? See #introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ || Windows nightly updates are broken, http://bugzil.la/735713'
# [20:00] <AryehGregor> Oops.
# [20:00] <AryehGregor> Didn't mean that.
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# [20:00] <AryehGregor> (I don't think I changed the actual contents -- XChat just makes it annoyingly easy to try changing the topic)
# [20:00] <AryehGregor> What I meant to say: Does anyone know what this means? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719518#c2
# [20:00] <AryehGregor> "hg: unknown command 'qimport'" doesn't seem right.
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Autoland is broken
# [20:01] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, ^
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# [20:01] <Ms2ger> mjessome, ^
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# [20:02] <AryehGregor> Yay.
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# [20:03] <Ms2ger> I'll push it
# [20:03] <robcee> smaug: it worked, in case you were wondering :)
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# [20:06] <@smaug> robcee: good :)
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# [20:07] <robcee> OS X here
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# [20:08] <IanN> hmmm, strange stuff
# [20:09] * IanN wonders if khuey has any hints
# [20:09] <@khuey> hmm?
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# [20:09] <Ms2ger> Your xpidl changes broke everyone
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# [20:10] <@khuey> "my" xpidl changes?
# [20:10] <AryehGregor> Oh, it turns out I was e-mailed my LDAP password after all.
# [20:10] * @khuey is pretty sure he didn't change anything
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> You reviewed the dict stuff
# [20:10] <@khuey> that doesn't make it mine
# [20:10] <AryehGregor> I was searching for the wrong keywords in my e-mail.
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# [20:10] <Ms2ger> Sure does
# [20:10] <@khuey> well you own find then!
# [20:10] <@khuey> sux2beu
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> Hah
# [20:10] <@khuey> IanN: what's the problem?
# [20:10] * Ms2ger removed find
# [20:11] <Ms2ger> *removes
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# [20:11] <Ms2ger> So, why is pushing to try so slow?
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# [20:12] <IanN> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1519155
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# [20:12] <IanN> hmmm, probably pasted a few more lines than I needed to there
# [20:13] <mjessome> thanks AryehGregor, Ms2ger. With our server switch, a few things have gone awry. Sorry for the spam.
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# [20:13] <AryehGregor> Any ETA on a fix?
# [20:13] <@khuey> IanN: what m-c rev are you on?
# [20:14] <Ms2ger> I'm trying to push your patch, btw
# [20:14] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, thanks.
# [20:14] <mjessome> AryehGregor: I'll know in 5 minutes :)
# [20:14] <IanN> khuey: where do I find that?
# [20:15] <@khuey> hg ident in your m-c directory?
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# [20:15] <AryehGregor> mjessome, thanks.
# [20:15] <IanN> khuey: a888f210af4e tip
# [20:15] <@khuey> that's ... surprising
# [20:16] <@khuey> IanN: this is building comm-central?
# [20:16] <IanN> khuey: yes, I'm just trying a FF build to see if that fails
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# [20:20] <IanN> khuey: my FF build has failed too :(
# [20:20] <edransch> IanN, khuey: I'm getting that error on both m-c and comm-c on OSX 10.7
# [20:21] <@khuey> IanN: on tip?
# [20:21] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, thanks.
# [20:21] <Ms2ger> Np
# [20:21] <IanN> khuey: yes, from same pull
# [20:21] <@khuey> bah
# [20:21] <@khuey> I thought I fixed this
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# [20:23] <WeirdAl> dom.js is 967KB?!?
# [20:23] <Ms2ger> That's all?
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# [20:24] <IanN> khuey: let me know if there is anything I can do to help diagnose it
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# [20:24] <WeirdAl> that's... kinda huge
# [20:24] <mak> hm, I get network errors on self-serve, again :(
# [20:24] <WeirdAl> for a JS library
# [20:24] <@khuey> IanN: if you touch xpcom/idl-parser/xpidl.py and rebuild, does that help?
# [20:25] <Ms2ger> It's an implementation of what, 700 pages of specs?
# [20:25] <froydnj> compared to common lisp, that's miniscule!
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# [20:26] <IanN> khuey: ok, i've done that, also removed *.pyc from that dir and now doing a clobber build
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# [20:28] <WeirdAl> ok, this sorta makes sense... the HTML stuff is by far the biggest part
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# [20:29] <mjessome> AryehGregor: fixed. Issue came from the way our daemon monitor was spawning processes, so hg wasn't locating its hgrc file properly.
# [20:29] <AryehGregor> mjessome, thanks!
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# [20:30] <IanN> khuey: no that failed too :(
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# [20:34] <@khuey> IanN: ok
# [20:34] <@khuey> IanN: you're doing a full rebuild, with make -f client.mk right?
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# [20:36] <IanN> khuey: yes
# [20:36] <IanN> khuey: and completely removing the objdir
# [20:37] <@khuey> are there .pyc files in srcdir/xpcom/idl-parser?
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# [20:38] <IanN> khuey: I remove them before doing the rebuild
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# [20:39] <@khuey> so you removed those, and you deleted the object directory?
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# [20:39] <IanN> khuey: yes, remove the 4 *.pyc files and the objdir
# [20:39] <krit> AryehGregor: ping again :)
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# [20:40] <AryehGregor> krit, pong.
# [20:40] <krit> hi AryehGregor
# [20:40] <@khuey> IanN: that's ... surprising
# [20:40] * @khuey wonders what state is left at the at point
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# [20:40] <krit> AryehGregor: Is the definition of perspective from tav in oppose to the definition in http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-transforms/#mathematical-description ?
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# [20:42] <@khuey> IanN: try grepping your tree for any xpidl*.pyc files?
# [20:42] <AryehGregor> krit, no, it's the same AFAICT.
# [20:42] <krit> AryehGregor: The math. desc. tries to describe the perspective(<length>) function
# [20:42] <@khuey> well, not grep
# [20:42] <@khuey> find
# [20:42] <@khuey> but w/e
# [20:43] <AryehGregor> His matrix applies perspective-origin explicitly.
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# [20:43] <Ms2ger> krit, no mathml? :)
# [20:43] <AryehGregor> Which I'm not sure is necessary, since we don't do it for transform-origin (we can't really).
# [20:43] <krit> Ms2ger: some browseres still don't support MathML, I would like to use it
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# [20:44] <Ms2ger> Maybe it would help them prioritize mathml support ;)
# [20:44] <krit> AryehGregor: Do you want to take care of the changes if the other editors agree to the change? Otherwise I can upload a new patch.
# [20:44] <AryehGregor> krit, sure.
# [20:44] <IanN> khuey: only three, and all in xpcom/idl-parser
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# [20:45] <krit> AryehGregor: sure? :) I would prefer if you do that, what do you prefer?
# [20:45] <edmorley> mak: burning
# [20:45] <AryehGregor> krit, it's fine by me.
# [20:45] <@khuey> IanN: and the timestamps on those are newer than the corresponding .py files?
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# [20:45] <krit> AryehGregor: I have a long line today. Can I access the bug to you?
# [20:45] <IanN> khuey: yes
# [20:45] <AryehGregor> krit, access? Assign?
# [20:46] <krit> yes :D
# [20:46] <mak> edmorley: ehr, forgot to add the namespace
# [20:46] <AryehGregor> krit, sure.
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> krit, I think he said yes ;)
# [20:46] <@khuey> IanN: I ... have no idea ...
# [20:46] <@khuey> that makes no sense
# [20:46] <krit> AryehGregor: thanks :)
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# [20:46] <jesup> IanN: find . -name "*.pyc" | xargs rm :-)
# [20:46] <krit> Ms2ger: like I said, I don't get it today :P
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> jesup, find . -name "*.pyc" -delete
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# [20:47] <mak> edmorley: fixing
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# [20:47] <taddle> Hi
# [20:48] <jesup> Ms2ger: yeah, find has a zillion options... very un-unix-like in syntax too
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# [20:48] <taddle> So, I have a question about firefox
# [20:48] <edmorley> mak: :-)
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> Yes, it's a little strange
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> Useful, though
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# [20:49] <mak> edmorley: done
# [20:50] <mak> thanks
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# [20:50] <edmorley> np :-)
# [20:50] <taddle> Basically, I'm like a junior IT technician at school, and we want firefox installed. The problem is that we have a CC4 server from RM, not just Windows. To get firefox installed properly, we need it setup to work with our CC4 server, would that bes something you could help with?
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# [20:51] <IanN> khuey: still failed after deleting all the *.xpc in the source directory
# [20:51] <jesup> Ms2ger: "find | xargs" is a very useful combo though (I repeat this pattern for h, idl, js, css, xul, and gyp files)
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# [20:51] <jesup> alias cfiles 'find . -path "*CVS" -prune -o -path ".svn" -prune -o -path "*.hg" -prune -o -name "*.[c|C]*" -a -type f -a -not -name "*~"'
# [20:51] <jesup> alias cfind 'cfiles | xargs grep \!*'
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> Heh, CVS
# [20:52] <jesup> taddle: #firefox might be better place to ask
# [20:53] <@smaug> hsivonen_: ping
# [20:53] <jesup> Ms2ger: I've been using these macros since the 0.9 days :-)
# [20:53] <taddle> jesup, Right, okay
# [20:53] <@khuey> IanN: I don't know what to tell you, sorry :-(
# [20:53] <@khuey> IanN: it's still the same error, right?
# [20:53] <taddle> jesup, I'll stay here just in case :)
# [20:53] <Ms2ger> jesup, you're old, man
# [20:54] * froydnj is lost in a maze of dom exceptions
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> froydnj, tell me about it
# [20:54] <IanN> khuey: yes, still the same error
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# [20:55] <@khuey> IanN: I'm out of ideas :-(
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# [21:01] <dietrich> bsmedberg: do you know if there are events for when plugins get focused/unfocused?
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# [21:03] <@bsmedberg> dietrich: no
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# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> I believe there are events we fire via NPAPI
# [21:04] <dietrich> bsmedberg: is there a way to find out if a plugin is focused?
# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> but I'm not sure exactly how the DOM events work
# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> this is really a smaug quetsion
# [21:04] <dietrich> thanks
# [21:05] <dietrich> smaug: i'd take notifications, events, or any other way you know of to determine if a plugin has focus :)
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# [21:07] <@smaug> let me think... Enn would know more about focus handling, of course
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# [21:11] <dietrich> smaug: ok, i'll ping him, thanks
# [21:12] <@smaug> dietrich: so, there is stuff like this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsFocusManager.cpp#1195
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# [21:13] <@smaug> dietrich: so focus/blur could be dispatched
# [21:13] <@smaug> dietrich: may I ask why you need this information
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# [21:22] <NeilAway> jesup: find --print0 | xargs -0 ?
# [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5280e98d2d77 - Kyle Huey - Bug 730587: Stash a pointer to the subtree root on DOM nodes. r=smaug, sr=jst
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# [21:24] <jesup> NeilAway: Yes, that would be better. I don't use whitespace in filenames :-)
# [21:24] <jesup> let alone newlines
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# [21:26] <@smaug> ++khuey
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# [21:27] <@khuey> lets see what Jesse's fuzzer says about it ;-)
# [21:27] <@smaug> :)
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# [21:32] <zzzzz> tbpl down?
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# [21:34] <edmorley> zzzzz: wfm
# [21:34] <dholbert> wfm too
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# [21:38] <IanN> khuey: interesting, it works okay on my Fedora 14 box but not on my Fedora 16 box
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# [21:38] <dietrich> smaug: thanks! sorry was in a mtg. we want to suspend non-critical operations when plugins are active, if possible.
# [21:38] <dietrich> smaug: for example, don't collect session restore data while a video is playing
# [21:38] <IanN> khuey: it's not completed yet, but I think it has got past the fail point
# [21:38] <drice> is there a sleep() function available in xpcshell?
# [21:38] <dietrich> or not so often, anyways
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# [21:39] <@smaug> dietrich: what has that to do fix focus?
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# [21:39] <@smaug> er
# [21:39] <@smaug> dietrich: what has that to do with focus
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# [21:46] <akeybl> bbondy or ehsan: are either of you available to talk in vidyo about bug 735713?
# [21:46] <@ehsan> akeybl: yeah
# [21:46] <@ehsan> which room?
# [21:46] <rillian_> -Werror, holding me up again
# [21:47] <bbondy> yup
# [21:47] <lsblakk> ehsan: come to Kennedy?
# [21:47] <@ehsan> ok
# [21:47] <bbondy> did you need/want me on it?
# [21:47] <Ms2ger> -Werror, making you fix bugs you would have to fix anyway
# [21:47] <lsblakk> bbondy: yes please
# [21:47] <akeybl> my room for vidyo please bbondy lsblakk
# [21:48] <bbondy> k
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# [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b52d3db4efa7 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 732982 - Expose a wifi API to the DOM. The API is very much a work in progress and will change soon. r=cjones/fabrice/vigntetun DONTBUILD
# [21:51] <edmorley> Ms2ger++
# [21:51] <Ms2ger> Had a good day, edmorley?
# [21:53] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yes thank you :-) you?
# [21:53] <Ms2ger> Good good
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# [21:55] <froydnj> this spec and example code do not seem to match up
# [21:55] <lsblakk> bbondy my question is what is different on Aurora which makes this a non-issue there?
# [21:55] <bbondy> let me get the bug number
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# [21:56] <Ms2ger> froydnj, tell me about it
# [21:56] <lsblakk> bbondy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725294
# [21:57] <romaxa> glandium: ping
# [21:57] <bbondy> lsblakk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730792
# [21:58] <Ms2ger> "its pretty clear from the claims of many who have looked deeply into it"
# [21:58] <Ms2ger> itym "it's a lie"
# [21:59] <lsblakk> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730792
# [22:00] <ddahl> what does this mean? i rebuilt dom/ - ###!!! ASSERTION: Class info data out of sync, you forgot to update nsDOMClassInfo.h and nsDOMClassInfo.cpp! Fix this, mozilla will not work without this fixed!: 'Error', file /home/ddahl/code/moz/mozilla-share/src/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp, line 4417
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# [22:00] <froydnj> Ms2ger: nsIIDBFactory.open returns a nsIIDOpenDBRequest, which is supposed to have an onsuccess attribute, but it does not, apparently, yet code still works
# [22:00] <froydnj> I must be missing something
# [22:01] <tchevalier> lmandel: Can I land Bug 730955 to inbound?
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# [22:01] <Ms2ger> ddahl, you need something in both nsDOMClassInfo.h and nsDOMClassInfo.cpp, and they need to be in the same order
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# [22:02] <ddahl> Ms2ger: ok. lemme scan my patch again
# [22:03] <@khuey> froydnj: inheritance
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# [22:03] <@khuey> froydnj: oh, actually in this case it's an object implementing multiple interfaces
# [22:03] <Ms2ger> nsIIDBOpenDBRequest
# [22:03] <froydnj> khuey: nsIIDBOpenDBRequest just inherits from nsISupports
# [22:04] <@khuey> froydnj: yes, but the object that implements nsIIDBOpenDBRequest also implements nIIDBRequest
# [22:04] <@khuey> which has onsuccess on it
# [22:04] <Ms2ger> nsIIDBRequest
# [22:04] <froydnj> and XPCOM just magically resolves this, I suppose
# [22:04] <@khuey> XPConnect and DOMClassInfo., yes
# [22:05] <lmandel> tchevalier: You've got gavin's r+ so you're good to go.
# [22:05] <froydnj> ah, I probably hadn't trawled through DOMClassInfo hard enough
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> IDBOpenDBRequest should inherit from IDBRequest per spec
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# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Can you file that?
# [22:05] <@khuey> it's filed
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Good
# [22:05] <lmandel> tchevalier: Can you confirm that the opt-in notification won't show on nightly/aurora once telemetry is opt-out on these channels?
# [22:05] <froydnj> that would be bug 704108
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# [22:06] <ddahl> Ms2ger: the culprit might be in here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=605937&action=diff#a/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp_sec2
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# [22:06] <Ms2ger> Well, clearly
# [22:07] <Ms2ger> You didn't touch the .h
# [22:07] <tchevalier> lmandel: Hum, this bug dont treat that, here we just update the message,
# [22:07] <tchevalier> lmandel: But, this will be true when 699806 will land (let me check)
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# [22:08] <gavin> oh cool, didn't realize 699806 had an updated patch (I'm way too far behind on bugmail)
# [22:08] <gavin> tchevalier: you should put that in my review queue
# [22:08] <ddahl> Ms2ger: yeah, its bsmith's patch, I am unbitrotting it - or as some like to say, compiling it for the first time:)
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# [22:08] <gavin> oh, gues it's not complete yet
# [22:08] <Ms2ger> :)
# [22:08] <lmandel> tchevalier: Yes. 732527 is just for the message. My question comes from seeing your screenshot with the opt-in notification for nightly. Just wanted to confirm.
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# [22:09] <tchevalier> gavin: yeah, but i want to fix the define error before give you that :)
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# [22:09] <gavin> tchevalier: anything I can help with?
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# [22:09] <tchevalier> gavin: But I can't find what is wrong with my define.
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# [22:10] <tchevalier> gavin: Yeah I think all is good except for that, so I'll put it in you queue ;)
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# [22:11] <tchevalier> lmandel: confirmed: there is a return after the opt-out notification, and it's always displayed for Nightly/Aurora, so the opt-in will never be displayed
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# [22:12] <gavin> tchevalier: I was just about to say, that rather than using a return, you could use an #else
# [22:12] <gavin> depending on the define
# [22:12] <gavin> so that either the opt-in code or opt-out code are present, but never both
# [22:12] <lmandel> tchevalier: thanks for confirming.
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# [22:13] <tchevalier> gavin: Ho, yeah it's better :) It minimize the risks (if there is risks)
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# [22:13] <tchevalier> gavin: I update that add request a review
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# [22:14] <gavin> tchevalier: looking into the configure change too
# [22:14] <gavin> I'm no configure expert, but I can copy/paste with the best of them
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# [22:14] <@ehsan> mjessome: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474505#c21
# [22:14] <@ehsan> mjessome: I'm pretty sure I have commit access to a bunch of places ;)
# [22:15] <Ms2ger> ehsan, how did that happen? :)
# [22:15] <gavin> ehsan: the patch doesn't have a review flag
# [22:15] <tchevalier> gavin: I'm not an expert at all :D I tried with quotes, whiout, with only nightly ... nothing works
# [22:15] <gavin> oh, wait
# [22:15] <gavin> well, hessam's patch doesn't
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> but that's sort of the point!
# [22:16] <gavin> and there are two non-obsolete patches, so wouldn't it be trying to land both?
# [22:16] <@ehsan> he wants his patch to pass try server before asking for review
# [22:16] <gavin> you need to approve of it, then
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> gavin: yeah I am marking the first as obsolete
# [22:16] <gavin> I dunno whether f+ is enough
# [22:16] <gavin> (hope so)
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# [22:16] <@ehsan> ok lemme try
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# [22:19] <@ehsan> mjessome: "insufficient perms" again...
# [22:19] <@ehsan> mjessome: is this intended?
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# [22:21] <mjessome> ehsan: and you have the same email address for bugzilla and your commit access?
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# [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/629298cfd480 - OHZEKI Tetsuharu - Bug 735517. Web Apps icon always appears when other popup notifications appear. r=fabrice,dao
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# [22:25] <tchevalier> gavin: remote: abort: could not lock repository /repo/hg/mozilla/integration/mozilla-inbound/: Permission denied. When pushing to inbound. A level 1 access is not enough, I guess?
# [22:25] <gavin> tchevalier: yeah, inbound is level_3
# [22:26] <gavin> (just like mozilla-central)
# [22:26] <gavin> I can push if for you; eventually you can get level_3 access
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# [22:26] <tchevalier> gavin: omg! If you have the time, yeah thanks
# [22:26] <drice> biesi: ping?
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# [22:27] <biesi> drice, pong
# [22:27] <jwir3> if I'
# [22:27] <tchevalier> gavin:I can get level 3, really, you think?
# [22:27] <drice> biesi: I'm completely stumped on this windows test failure. But I just had an insane idea. Is it possible that its getting fd = 0?
# [22:27] <jwir3> if I'm doing a comparison of floats, e.g. I want to test if floatA == floatB, is there a macro for that somewhere, or do I need to explicitly perform ||floatA| - |floatB|| <= threshold?
# [22:27] <drice> biesi: nsSocketTransport::GetSelfAddr would give NS_ERROR_NOT_CONNECTED if fd=0, but if the process disconnected its stdin, windows might be reusing 0.
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# [22:28] <biesi> drice, fd is likely a pointer to PRFileDesc
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# [22:28] <biesi> drice, can you verify that?
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# [22:29] <drice> You're right: PRFileDesc *mFD;
# [22:29] <biesi> drice, ok. so that's not it :)
# [22:29] <drice> Crap. Then I'm still completely stumped.
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# [22:29] <biesi> drice, sorry, I'd like to help, but I really have no time for that :(
# [22:29] <biesi> (other than answering irc questions : ))
# [22:29] <drice> I can't reproduce, and I think I need to see the SOCKET_LOG output.
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# [22:30] <drice> Alright, well I'll probably have to throw in the towel soon. It'll be a shame if the nsNetAddr goes with it, since I'm very confident it has nothing to do with my changes, just my apparently inability to write a working test.
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# [22:31] <biesi> drice, we could always skip the test on windows
# [22:32] <drice> biesi: I'll see if anyone comes back with an idea in a couple days. If not, I'll submit a patch to disable it.
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# [22:33] <vladan> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734335
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# [22:37] <gavin> ehsan: guess it doesn't like f+ after all! :/
# [22:37] <gavin> mjessome: is that something you could change?
# [22:37] <IanN> anyone else build on Fedora 16?
# [22:37] <gavin> (autoland not accepting f+ as sign-off, as opposed to r+)
# [22:38] <josh> IanN: I've been using it quite a bit recently but I'm not using it right now.
# [22:38] <IanN> josh: 32 bit or 64 bit?
# [22:38] <josh> 64
# [22:38] <dietrich> smaug: it doesn't necessarily have to do with focus. that's just one way to tell if a user is interacting with a plugin (which i thought we already had)
# [22:38] <IanN> josh: would be interested to find out if you get the same error as me - bug 735825
# [22:39] <IanN> josh: as it works fine on my Fedora 14 x64 box
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# [22:40] <josh> IanN: I wasn't getting that the last time I built on fc16 a couple of days ago, I can't test again right now.
# [22:40] <@smaug> dietrich: but when user is watching a video, (s)he isn't really interacting with the plugin
# [22:40] <mjessome> gavin: to take feedback rather than review? yes, I could. It will be obsoleted soon with the bmo extension that we'll be switching to. For the time being, I could do it. It will need to wait a bit, though. Between bad internet connection at MoTo and preparing for tomorrow's secreview, I'm pretty busy. It'll be tomorrow aftenoon at the latest.
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# [22:41] <gavin> mjessome: no worries, it's not important
# [22:41] <gavin> tchevalier: sorry, missed your comment. of course you can - just need to keep writing excellent patches :)
# [22:41] <loadbang> have we got any UI performance problems with version 11 of firefox on mac?
# [22:41] <loadbang> everything is slow and laggy here.
# [22:41] <hub> IanN: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2012/03/13/818-building-b2g-on-fedora-field-notes
# [22:42] <dietrich> smaug: they did when they hit play. regardless, that's just one heuristic we were talking about, that i thought we could test out now. but that's not the case.
# [22:42] <hub> IanN: I just flashed my phone this afternoon. Works great
# [22:42] <loadbang> takes a second to load menu bar items, switch tabs, load contextual menus etc.
# [22:42] <tchevalier> gavin: I love it, so of course I'll continue :) I'll file a bug
# [22:43] <hub> IanN: oh shit you mean Gecko. yeah I build it too in Fedora 16
# [22:43] <IanN> josh: i've not rebuilt on my Fedora 16 box for a couple of weeks as I was testing some patches, so didn't notice it as it doesn't fail on my 14 box
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# [22:43] <hub> IanN: I remove the obj-dir
# [22:43] <hub> IanN: and then it works
# [22:43] <IanN> hub: yeah. done all that, and it still fails :(
# [22:43] <hub> IanN: weird
# [22:43] <IanN> hub: yeah, I know, it's stumped khuey too
# [22:43] <@smaug> dietrich: could we just postpone session restore data collection when user is interacting with the browser?
# [22:44] <josh> IanN: try deleting the src dir as well as the objdir, I had a problem a couple of weeks ago in which that was the fix. Some python files laying around in the src dir accidentally.
# [22:44] <hub> let me pull and check
# [22:44] <dietrich> smaug: they're not interacting when they're watching a video :)
# [22:44] <mbrubeck> loadbang: Can you see if the same problem happens if you restart in safe mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Safe%20Mode
# [22:44] <mbrubeck> Trying out a nightly build would also be useful. Or you can run Firefox 12 (beta) or later and see if the about:jank add-on outputs anything... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/aboutjank/
# [22:44] <@smaug> dietrich: also, collect that data is small pieces, so that pause times stay reasonable
# [22:44] <dietrich> but they did to *start* the video
# [22:44] <josh> IanN: and hg won't help you find them because they are ignored via hgignore
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# [22:44] <gavin> nice:
# [22:44] <gavin> abort: decoding near 'Th?o Chevali': 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 2-4: invalid data!
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# [22:45] <dietrich> smaug: that's definitely happening, patches in progress
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# [22:45] <dietrich> but we also want to not collect when it's bad to do so, or just not as often
# [22:45] <gavin> tchevalier: looks like your patches aren't utf-8 for some reason :)
# [22:45] <@smaug> dietrich: yes. and video may not have focus at that point either
# [22:45] <gavin> (at least the hg metadata isn't)
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# [22:46] <tchevalier> gavin: gah... Notepad++, i guess, let me update it, sorry
# [22:46] <@ehsan> gavin: yeah
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# [22:46] <@ehsan> mjessome: can we just allow try pushes for non-reviewed stuff?
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# [22:47] <gavin> ehsan: that's the only filter that currently exists
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# [22:47] <gavin> determining who added the tag is harder, I'm guessing
# [22:47] <loadbang> mbrubeck: still the same in safe mode, just feels slow.
# [22:47] <@ehsan> why is it a good idea?
# [22:47] <gavin> ehsan: because we don't want anyone to be able to push anything to tryserver?
# [22:47] <gavin> because you could own the tryserver machines?
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# [22:48] <mjessome> ehsan: it's either the person who posted the patch, or review+ right now. I'll switch over to feedback+ because that makes a million times more sense.
# [22:48] <tchevalier> gavin: updated ;)
# [22:48] <loadbang> mbrubeck: after about 5 minutes of use it feels sluggish.
# [22:48] <mbrubeck> ehsan: Are you already aware of the xpcshell failures on Windows?
# [22:48] <@ehsan> gavin: how about checking for access level 1?
# [22:48] <@ehsan> gavin: note that anyone can already set r+ flags!
# [22:48] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: no
# [22:48] <gavin> ehsan: only r+ flags from people with level_1 access are relevant
# [22:49] <@ehsan> crap
# [22:49] <mbrubeck> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10069277&tree=Firefox -- looks like it's permaorange on windows only.
# [22:49] <@ehsan> yeah
# [22:49] <mjessome> exactly, the person who flags it must have the correct permissions
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# [22:49] <@ehsan> lemme take a look
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# [22:49] <gavin> ehsan: assuming the patch author in question had level_1, the problem is probably that only MoCo people can request autolands atm
# [22:49] <@ehsan> bbondy: ping?
# [22:49] <gavin> ehsan: (or "bless" them)
# [22:49] <bbondy> looking
# [22:50] <gavin> ehsan: because the only bugzilla<->LDAP account mapping we have is MoCo-internal
# [22:50] <@ehsan> this is very weird
# [22:50] <bbondy> ehsan: maybe the mar files in the tests have an older version and the check was backwards
# [22:50] <@ehsan> gavin: sorry can't focus on this at the moment :)
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# [22:50] <gavin> np
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# [22:50] <@ehsan> bbondy: yeah
# [22:50] <bbondy> 2 negatives make a passing test
# [22:50] <mbrubeck> ehsan has to go un-break m-c, aurora, and beta. :P
# [22:50] <@ehsan> bbondy: cause we never updated the mar files right?
# [22:51] <bbondy> ehsan: we did but I'm not sure off hand what the version is on them
# [22:51] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: I guess I should back out for now :(
# [22:51] <bbondy> I should change it to like v999 or something like that
# [22:51] <@ehsan> bbondy: is there an easy way to check?
# [22:51] <bbondy> ya checking
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# [22:51] <@ehsan> ty
# [22:51] <@ehsan> I'll back out in the mean time
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# [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7e713db43d8d - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset a888f210af4e (bug 735713) because of test failures on Windows
# [22:56] <bbondy> arg I'm going to have to rebuild with that special option since we don't build signmar by default anymore
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# [22:57] <glandium> romaxa: pong
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# [22:58] <@ehsan> bbondy: ok
# [22:58] <@ehsan> bbondy: please ping me when you know more
# [22:58] <bbondy> k will do doing it now
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# [23:07] <bbondy> ehsan: ya the mar files have version 12.0a1 in them :( I'll need to strip the signatures and manually put the version up really high and then re-sign them. Then push your patch and mine on try.
# [23:08] <@ehsan> bbondy: that would be great
# [23:08] <@ehsan> thanks :)
# [23:08] <bbondy> ehsan: do you think 999.0?
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# [23:08] <@ehsan> bbondy: is there a length limit?
# [23:09] <@ehsan> lemme check the code
# [23:09] <bbondy> I don't think so but not sure
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# [23:10] <@ehsan> bbondy: http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/xpcom/glue/nsVersionComparator.cpp.html#l166
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# [23:10] <@ehsan> bbondy: set it to "*"
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# [23:10] <@ehsan> that should do it
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# [23:11] <bbondy> k testing locally to ensure that's a higher version number
# [23:11] <bbondy> looks like it though
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# [23:11] <@ehsan> yeah but testing never hurts :)
# [23:12] <bbondy> yup
# [23:12] <bbondy> NS_CompareVersions("13.0a1", "*") return -1
# [23:12] <bbondy> so that is correct
# [23:12] <bbondy> as far as the new correct code is concerned at least
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# [23:20] <nthomas> if you see test failures on try from download errors please let me now
# [23:20] <IanN> josh / khuey : blowing away the whole of my m-c srcdir fixed it
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# [23:20] <josh> IanN: cool, shouldn't happen again, that was just a one-off bug in our build system a while ago I think
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# [23:27] <edmorley> Waldo: dc72c4a74024 orange, not sure if you've seen it
# [23:27] <Waldo> pung already in #jsapi :-)
# [23:27] <Waldo> looking
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# [23:29] <Waldo> oh, that's stupid
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# [23:29] <Waldo> assertion botch, I can just remove that assertion
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# [23:30] <Waldo> also, what the heck is that test doing creating such a large string that it exceeds the JS engine's string length limits?
# [23:30] <Waldo> well, hm
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# [23:31] <Waldo> you know, I'm just going to back out, the new expected failure mode might tickle tinderboxen weird
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# [23:32] <ddahl> lol: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.h#145
# [23:33] <Waldo> reviewing outgoing, pushing after that
# [23:34] <Waldo> backout pushed
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# [23:54] <gavin> tchevalier: still there?
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# [23:54] <gavin> I totally forgot about your checkin, or the telemetry question
# [23:55] <tchevalier> gavin: yup, just going attach the new 699806 patch
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# [23:55] <ddahl> jst: when you see this: ###!!! ASSERTION: Class info data out of sync, you forgot to update nsDOMClassInfo.h - what exactly is it looking for? forward declared interfaces like class nsIFoo? or is there a corresponding macro or function in the header for something like: DOMCI_DATA, NS_DEFINE_CLASSINFO_DATA, DOM_CLASSINFO_MAP_BEGIN, etc in the cpp src?
# [23:56] <tchevalier> gavin: np :)
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# [23:57] <jbuck> ddahl: I remember that I needed to add goop to nsDOMClassInfo.h/.cpp and my .cpp
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# [23:58] <ddahl> jbuck: yeah, I have the MAP stuff, etc. not sure what goes in .h
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# [23:59] <jbuck> https://github.com/jbuck/mozilla-central/commit/33cc2c152ad5c0fc2e25fdfa0d92b52b8e276d74#diff-5 is my implementation, nsDOMClassInfo.h/.cpp are below that
# [23:59] <jbuck> hopefully that helps :)
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