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# Session Start: Fri Mar 23 00:00:01 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:14] <RyanVM> ok, looks like I'll do the honors on inbound....
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# [00:15] <zpao> so is there a known clang linking failure or is that just me?
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# [00:19] <Callek> -WERROR
# [00:19] <RyanVM> philor (or whoever else is watching): I'll star things if the backout is green
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# [00:19] <Callek> zpao: http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/19738565245/turn-all-the-errors-into-warnings
# [00:19] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: ping
# [00:20] <zpao> Callek: i was wondering if that's what the reference was
# [00:20] <Callek> ;-)
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# [00:21] <JonathanS> Callek, clang is very strict on errors.
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# [00:23] <Jesse> i thought -Werror was "turn warnings into errors"
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# [00:24] <zpao> Jesse: ah yea it is
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# [00:26] <JonathanS> should this be added? http://i.imgur.com/GKQP8.jpg
# [00:26] <reuben> hehe, I've used -w before to build on clang
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# [00:28] <RyanVM> philor: seeing a lot more <random js file> | load failed: null orange lately
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# [00:36] <zpao> oooo, looks like i can blame dougt (and probably do a clobber & be fine)
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# [00:42] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, and a lot more jsreftest timed out - I figure they broke it again, but not quite as severely this time
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# [00:44] <Sirisian> What username does Masayuki Nakano use here?
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# [00:46] <kwierso> Sirisian: masayuki
# [00:46] <Sirisian> ah was confused. Didn't see anything when I did a /whowas.
# [00:47] <Sirisian> might not be supported on this server.
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# [00:47] <reuben> it expires quickly
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# [00:48] <Sirisian> hmm 8:40 AM in japan. Now we play the waiting game
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# [00:50] * jhammel hates that game
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# [00:56] <JonathanS> did somebody lost the game?
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# [01:12] <njn> how did PDF.js end up installed as a third-party add-on in my dev build on Ubuntu?
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# [01:12] <kwierso> njn: it's now shipping with mozilla-central as of last night
# [01:12] <njn> kwierso: as a 3rd-party add-on? yuk
# [01:13] <gavin> as an add-on, yes
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# [01:13] <gavin> not sure what you mean by "third party"
# [01:13] <jhammel> what? as of *last* night?
# [01:13] <jhammel> it is not in my nightly, unless i'm missing something
# [01:13] <njn> gavin: I get the about:newaddon pop-up saying "are you sure you want this?"
# [01:13] <gavin> the issue with it being caught by the drop-in install prompter is known and they're going to fix it
# [01:14] <gavin> jhammel: it may not have made the last nightly, but it did land on mozilla-central
# [01:14] <Unfocused> what gavin said
# [01:14] <jhammel> gavin: cool, i'll see what happens tomorrow
# [01:14] <Unfocused> and no, it didn't make the nightly build
# [01:14] <njn> gavin: ok, good
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# [01:19] <njn> huh, pdf.js does a pretty good job! :)
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# [01:20] <njn> hmm, but it's struggling on a 190 page PDF I just gave it... lots of spinning icons, and pages that were being displayed have disappeared and been replaced by spinning icons :(
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# [01:29] * @smaug decides to print html spec to a pdf and try
# [01:30] <njn> smaug: good luck with that :(
# [01:30] <darktrojan> hopefully it'll get some UX love now that everyone's getting it
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# [01:31] <@smaug> darktrojan: as initial reaction I didn't have anything major to complain in the UI
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# [01:32] <darktrojan> I like to nitpick
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# [01:33] <@smaug> 673 pages
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# [01:35] <@smaug> yeah, not really usable
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# [01:37] * NeilAway wonders why pdf.js would have UI
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# [01:37] <darktrojan> same reason print preview has a UI
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# [01:38] <darktrojan> it makes dealing with pages easier
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# [01:39] <mak> the words easy and print-preview are quite far imo
# [01:39] <@smaug> njn: bug 738507
# [01:39] <darktrojan> heh mak
# [01:39] <darktrojan> our print preview, at least
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# [01:40] <@smaug> I'm just waiting for someone to make our print preview awesome ;)
# [01:40] <@smaug> print preview is after all just a new tab which has the clone of the original document
# [01:40] <darktrojan> or, make pdf.js awesome, then adopt it as print preview
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# [01:41] * kwierso prints... to pdf
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# [01:43] * darktrojan print previews a print preview
# [01:43] <darktrojan> yo dawg
# [01:43] <kwierso> previewception
# [01:45] <timA> kwierso: printception?
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# [01:47] <darktrojan> if we had a shared UI that could be used for print preview and pdfs, that would be hot
# [01:48] <timA> Mossop: I CCed you on bug 738500; rs said you might be interested in taking a look since you wrote the original redit
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# [01:48] <@smaug> darktrojan: indeed
# [01:48] <@smaug> shouldn't be hard
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# [02:13] <aja> dholbert: ping
# [02:13] <dholbert> aja, pong
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# [02:14] <aja> dholbert: is flex supposed to be its own property, or value for width and/or height?
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# [02:14] <dholbert> aja, its own property
# [02:14] <aja> thought so, but....
# [02:15] <dholbert> aja, though that's a relatively new development (spec changed maybe a month ago)
# [02:15] <aja> confused by tests just checked into webkit
# [02:15] <aja> guess it's just interim steps
# [02:15] <dholbert> yeah, that'd be my guess too
# [02:15] <dholbert> (not having seen the tests)
# [02:16] <dholbert> you can basically convert with a search-and-replace
# [02:16] <dholbert> not quite, but that works for most circumstances
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# [02:17] <aja> width: -webkit-flex(1 0 50px); min-width: 50px; maxwidth: 100px; <=this sorta thing
# [02:17] <dholbert> aja, yup, that's what the spec called for up until a month or so ago
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# [02:19] <aja> it's main thing that seemed missing in my testing over lasst day or two. will try old syntax for that property for now
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# [02:20] <aja> btw.....think i found an unrelated text bug. a bit more research b4 i file though
# [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/901727f56830 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 604266. (Av1c) Remove --disable-installer option from configure.in. r=ted.mielczarek.
# [02:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2cec1f79a141 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 735573. (Av1) Document UseDefaultPrefFile() and fix its nsresult value. r=bsmedberg.
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# [02:25] <saad> is there a git repo for firefox?
# [02:26] <jgilbert> yes, actually, somewhere
# [02:26] <saad> I cant find it on github..
# [02:26] <saad> I hope you dont use git svn..
# [02:26] <jgilbert> we use mercurial internally
# [02:26] <saad> hmmm
# [02:27] <saad> so mercurial it is :)
# [02:27] <darktrojan> mercurial sucks let's use svn
# [02:27] <saad> can I contribute?
# [02:27] <darktrojan> :D
# [02:27] <jgilbert> saad: always, and forever
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# [02:27] <saad> on hg.mozilla.org
# [02:28] <saad> I need a repo then :))
# [02:28] <saad> can you please link me?
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# [02:28] <dholbert> saad, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction
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# [02:28] <saad> mozilla-central?
# [02:28] <dholbert> saad, yeah
# [02:28] <saad> Ahh thnx!
# [02:28] <dholbert> np
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# [02:29] <jgilbert> you can browse http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ also
# [02:29] <saad> Thnx :D
# [02:29] <@roc> smarter to write "static const char STATE_ENABLED[] = "state_enabled";"
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# [02:30] <@roc> oops, failed to scroll down
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# [02:30] <jbuck> saad: https://github.com/doublec/mozilla-central
# [02:30] <tan> Does anybody happen to know when the hard-reload was switched from CC:no-cache to IMS? A user in #firefox is wondering, and searching bugzilla turns up nothing
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# [02:31] <saad> jbuck: parallel with the mercurial repo?
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# [02:31] <jbuck> it's updated hourly, I believe
# [02:31] <saad> Great
# [02:31] <saad> you saved me, Lol
# [02:31] <jbuck> actually, probably even faster than that... I see a commit from 10 minutes ago
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# [02:32] <saad> yea
# [02:32] <saad> seems it is
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# [03:01] <spartan> i'm getting an error when trying to push to the try server, anyone seen anything like this before => http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1531831
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# [03:05] <nthomas> does 'ssh hg.mozilla.org' connect and then boot you out with 'No interactive shells allowed here!' ?
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# [03:06] <spartan> yes, I would double check to be sure
# [03:06] <@bz> If I want to add a new mochitest test dir
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# [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/996b89200406 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 712552. (Av1) Remove MSVC6 support from trace-malloc. r=dbaron.
# [03:06] <spartan> I will*
# [03:07] <spartan> here is my output => http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1531833
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# [03:08] <nthomas> ok, but try it bare like I suggested so that you verify your ssh config is right
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# [03:09] <spartan> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic).
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# [03:10] <nthomas> have you pushed to hg.m.o successfully before ?
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# [03:10] <nthomas> sounds like your ssh config isn't right
# [03:10] <mbrubeck> Looks like we can re-land bnicholson and back out jgilbert instead
# [03:10] <spartan> no, this is my first time trying to push anything
# [03:11] <nthomas> ok, one sec
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# [03:11] <nthomas> spartan: the topmost section of https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Creating_Mercurial_User_Repositories
# [03:12] <jgilbert> mbrubeck: what'd I hit?
# [03:12] <mbrubeck> jgilbert: some failures in android robocop: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10296760&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [03:13] <jgilbert> interesting...passed on try
# [03:13] <mbrubeck> yeah
# [03:13] <mbrubeck> it *could* be ehsan or wesj
# [03:13] <@ehsan> ?
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# [03:14] <spartan> nthomas: may be a stupid question but do I add those lines to .ssh/.config? or .ssh/config.txt? etc.
# [03:14] <nthomas> without the .txt
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# [03:15] <mbrubeck> ehsan: Don't worry, I don't actually think your build fix caused robocop failures on Android...
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# [03:15] <nthomas> spartan: and once you've done that try 'ssh hg.mozilla.org' again
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# [03:16] <mbrubeck> jgilbert: I'm going to back out your patch on inbound for now and see if the backout fixes the failures
# [03:16] <spartan> nthomas: ok, now I get => http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1531835
# [03:16] <jgilbert> mbrubeck: alright
# [03:16] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: yeah I'd be surprised!
# [03:16] <jgilbert> I am running rc again a few times on the try build
# [03:16] <nthomas> spartan: yay, that's correct. Pushing to try should work now
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# [03:18] <spartan> looks like it is working! thanks a bunch nthomas!
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# [03:24] <Sirisian> masayuki, Hello. I see you're working on the DOM 3 event stuff. Are you implementing it per the current editor draft? I was curious.
# [03:24] <Sirisian> for mouse event stuff I mean
# [03:25] <Sirisian> If so there was a change to the editor draft a few days ago. I submitted this bug to stir discussion: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738105
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# [03:46] <rniwa> does anyone know if gecko has imported CSS working group's tests?
# [03:47] <@bz> not en masse, no
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# [03:47] <rniwa> bz: do you if you've imported any at all?
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# [03:47] <@bz> not sure
# [03:47] <rniwa> bz: there's some discussion about adding ref-test results for css level 3 selectors test on webkit-dev
# [03:48] <@bz> we certainly have the ones we contributed
# [03:48] <rniwa> and i was wondering if mozilla already had reference files for them
# [03:48] <rniwa> okay
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# [03:48] <rniwa> bz: these: http://hg.csswg.org/test/file/8ca008901be5/approved/selectors3
# [03:48] <@bz> and at some point fantasai was going to work on syncing the two
# [03:48] <rniwa> i see.
# [03:48] <@bz> I don't think we have reftests for those
# [03:48] <rniwa> i'm going to suggest that we check in ref. files into w3c respository
# [03:48] <@bz> yes
# [03:48] <@bz> please
# [03:49] <rniwa> it's kind of silly for all browser vendors to re-invent the expectation files
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# [03:49] <@bz> indeed
# [03:49] <@bz> though...
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# [03:49] <@bz> are webkit's expectation files images?
# [03:49] <rniwa> bz: yes
# [03:49] <rniwa> bz: but we've recently added ref-tests support
# [03:49] <@bz> ah, ok
# [03:50] <@bz> good
# [03:50] <rniwa> bz: so given these are selector tests
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# [03:50] <rniwa> ojan suggested that we can probably convert them to reftests quite easily & safely
# [03:50] <@bz> for something like this reftests with html+css references should work pretty well
# [03:50] <rniwa> there was a concern for other tests as to whether can come up with good enough ref. files
# [03:50] <@bz> yeah
# [03:50] <rniwa> such that it catches all intended bugs
# [03:50] <@bz> that's always the hard part
# [03:51] <rniwa> in fact, i'm very hesitant to have webkit-specific ref. files
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# [03:51] <rniwa> bz: because then most of authors can't check whether our ref. files make sense or not
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# [03:52] <@bz> You should really ping fantasai
# [03:52] <@bz> if we have any sort of plans around this stuff, she would know
# [03:52] <@bz> last I heard there were plans but not anyone tasked with implementing them.....
# [03:53] <@bz> (and these plans might not affect what you want to do anyway, since I'm pretty sure that you adding decent references to the w3c tests would work quite nicely with whatever we'd like to do)
# [03:53] <rniwa> bz: okay
# [03:53] <rniwa> bz: yeah
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# [03:56] <rniwa> bz: k, thanks for the info.
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# [03:57] <rniwa> even though it's the least controversial thing to collaborate on :(
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# [04:00] <@bz> rniwa: it's a bit hard
# [04:00] <@bz> rniwa: because the test frameworks that grew up are all different
# [04:00] <@bz> rniwa: but yes, I'm sorta sad about it too
# [04:00] <rniwa> bz: yeah, but it seems like we're all converging to ref-tests at this point though
# [04:00] <@bz> rniwa: feels like we're duplicating a lot of work
# [04:00] <@bz> rniwa: yeah
# [04:00] <rniwa> bz: right.
# [04:00] <rniwa> bz: it's super silly
# [04:01] <@bz> rniwa: with any luck, this will get better in the near future
# [04:01] <rniwa> bz: it's hundreds of millions of dollars wasted :(
# [04:01] <@bz> rniwa: and worse yet, people's time!
# [04:01] <rniwa> bz: yeah
# [04:02] <@bz> rniwa: at least on our end, hiring is not money-constrained so far.....
# [04:02] <rniwa> bz: e.g. http://www.ohloh.net/p/WebKit/estimated_cost
# [04:02] <@bz> rniwa: so wasting time is strictly worse. ;)
# [04:02] <rniwa> bz: if each each engineer makes 100k, then markup (~tests) roughly accounts for 50million dollars LOL :(
# [04:03] <rniwa> bz: well i'm kind of converting time to money but yeah, we're on the same page here
# [04:03] <@bz> rniwa: heh
# [04:03] <@bz> rniwa: yeah, I agree it's ridiculous
# [04:03] <@bz> rniwa: I think we'd all like to make it better
# [04:03] <rniwa> right.
# [04:04] <rniwa> it's just that nobody has put much efforts into it :(
# [04:04] <@bz> rniwa: just need to find the resources to get out of the local optimum where everyone is working on other things... ;)
# [04:04] <@bz> rniwa: yeah
# [04:04] <rniwa> i might start working on this stuff next quarter or so
# [04:04] <rniwa> since nobody else is doing it :(
# [04:04] <rniwa> now we have w3c's testharness.js in our repository
# [04:04] <@bz> I think we're trying to convince either Gerard or Aryeh to maybe work on this
# [04:04] <@bz> on our end
# [04:04] <rniwa> so all regions tests Adobe folks are writing will be ran using testharness.js :D
# [04:04] <@bz> again, fantasai would know for sure
# [04:04] <rniwa> bz: oh yeah?
# [04:04] <rniwa> bz: that'l be nice
# [04:05] <rniwa> bz: I think ehsan was interested in exchanging tests between WebKit & Gecko as well
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# [04:05] <@bz> yeah
# [04:05] <rniwa> i haven't really followed up on that since i couldn't find a person interested in doing that
# [04:05] <@bz> he's too swamped to work on it
# [04:05] <rniwa> yeah
# [04:05] <rniwa> it seems like he's a really busy guy
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# [04:07] <rniwa> bz: anyway, this might be a good topic for this year's TPAC :)
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# [05:49] <newn> hi
# [05:49] <newn> how can I get "content" from event of TabOpened(event) ?
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# [05:49] <newn> plz help
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# [06:22] <boiled_sugar> I'm suffered from PGO crash of VS2010 x64. is there any resolution?
# [06:23] <kwierso> build the 32-bit version?
# [06:23] <boiled_sugar> I WANT 64BIT!
# [06:24] <kwierso> disable PGO?
# [06:24] <boiled_sugar> lol
# [06:25] <biesi> upgrade to linux ;)
# [06:26] <kwierso> boiled_sugar: you're probably seeing https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682788
# [06:27] <kwierso> which is waiting on Microsoft to fix Visual Studio
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# [06:27] <boiled_sugar> the patch of fix v1 there used to work
# [06:27] <boiled_sugar> but it no longer works
# [06:28] <boiled_sugar> shlibsign crashes
# [06:28] <kwierso> I got nothin
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# [06:49] <m_kato> boiled_sugar: our buildbot uses PGO via http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/config/mozconfigs/win64/vs2010-mozconfig?raw=1
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# [07:04] <boiled_sugar> m_kato: thx, LD seems the key
# [07:05] <boiled_sugar> I'll have a try on it
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# [07:05] <ewong> do..or do not.. there is no try.
# [07:05] <ewong> ;P
# [07:05] <kwierso> there is, but no one uses it
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# [07:15] <boiled_sugar> /c/Program\ Files\ $x86$/Microsoft\ Visual\ Studio\ 10.0/VC/BIN/x86_amd64/link.exe
# [07:16] <boiled_sugar> a lot of escapes...
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# [07:19] <philor> glandium: ping
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# [07:20] <boiled_sugar> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
# [07:20] <boiled_sugar> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0/...
# [07:20] <boiled_sugar> so... do I have to re-install visual studio to another directory?
# [07:21] <timA|away> boiled_sugar: that line looks like it doesn't escape all the necessary characters...
# [07:21] <boiled_sugar> but /c/Program\ Files\ \\$x86\\$/Microsoft\ Visual\ Studio\ 10.0/VC/BIN/x86_amd64/link.exe fails during configure
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# [07:23] <timA|away> boiled_sugar: why the "\\$" and "\\$"? shouldn't those be "$" and "$"?
# [07:24] <boiled_sugar> because it fails with the error above
# [07:25] <boiled_sugar> with /c/Program\ Files\ $x86$/Microsoft\ Visual\ Studio\ 10.0/VC/BIN/x86_amd64/link.exe, configure passes but actual copiling fails
# [07:28] <timA|away> boiled_sugar: I must have missed part of the conversation... but if you want to avoid spaces in the path AND avoid reinstalling VS, open a command prompt as an admin and "mklink /D new_path_for_VS current_path_to_VS" and then use new_path_for_VS
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# [07:29] <boiled_sugar> I just copied the link.exe to the root of C:
# [07:30] <boiled_sugar> if it fails, I'll take your suggestion, thx
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# [07:31] <boiled_sugar> it fails, as some dlls are missing
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# [07:40] <shri> Could anybody here provide advice on full screen implementation of Firefox? I would really appreciate the help #gsoc
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# [07:41] <newn> shri: "full screen implementation" means?
# [07:41] <boiled_sugar> can mozconfig use #include or something?
# [07:42] <newn> boiled_sugar: yes kind of
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# [07:50] <newn> rohan: kya haal hai ji?
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# [08:06] <glandium> philor: pong
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# [08:08] <philor> glandium: turned out to be infra - the merge from m-i needed a clobber on Android, but then confused me by managing to download my first build a second time instead of downloading the clobbered retrigger
# [08:08] <glandium> philor: yeah that happened on m-i too
# [08:08] <philor> so I needed you to explain to me why two logs had the same startup crash when the answer was "they ran on the same build"
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# [08:09] <philor> ah. I filed it, since we never had that problem before we switched to downloading from ftp.m.o instead of stage
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# [08:10] <philor> but at least I pinged the right person, for the wrong reason
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# [08:15] <Sirisian> masayuki, Was just cuious if you saw my message earlier regarding this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738105
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# [08:36] <newn> i want to do both these , gbrowser.stop() and gbrowser.loaduri() kind of things on aWebProgress.DOMWindow , how can i do them?
# [08:36] <newn> plz help
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# [09:10] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=06a8c2979321 < If you look at that, the tree doesn't look in that bad a shape
# [09:12] <darktrojan> pity about your landing
# [09:13] <nigelb> another rainbow?
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# [09:14] <Ms2ger> Well, 'twas philor's
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# [09:17] <darktrojan> I'm getting a lot of connection resets today :/
# [09:18] <newn> hi
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# [09:19] <newn> i want to get gBrowser from aWebProgress.DOMWindows , how can i get it?
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# [09:43] <NeilAway> whoa, we've finally removed all VC6 support ;-)
# [09:44] <boiled_sugar> I get an error WindowsError: [Error 2] 指定されたファイルが見つかりません。(specified file not found)
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# [09:45] <darktrojan> reed, you just set "Vary: Accept,User-Agent, Accept-Encoding"? didn't work, I got cached text/html
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# [10:05] <Usul> Morning
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# [10:06] <Usul> does someone knows if PSM is logable ? (i.e. what do I need to set to get PSM log files )
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# [10:09] <Ms2ger> I think you want to look for nspr logging
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# [10:10] <Usul> Ms2ger: do you think PIPNSS is the good one.
# [10:10] <Usul> I'm trying to figure out which one to set to get some logs
# [10:11] <Ms2ger> That looks correct
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# [10:12] <Usul> Thanks
# [10:12] <Ms2ger> Np
# [10:13] <NeilAway> reed, darktrojan: heh, I now get an ISE when visiting Planet in IE6 ;-)
# [10:13] <darktrojan> ISE?
# [10:13] <nigelb> Wait, IE6?
# [10:14] <Ms2ger> glazou, fwiw, I think makes sense to keep technical discussion on www-style, but I do think that filing editorial issues directly into bugzilla should be allowed
# [10:15] <NeilAway> darktrojan: Internal Server Error
# [10:15] <darktrojan> oh
# [10:15] <NeilAway> nigelb: I try stuff out in IE6 just to see whether it degrades well
# [10:15] <darktrojan> why didn't you just say 500
# [10:15] <NeilAway> darktrojan: sorry, the 500 was only in the title, so I overlooked it
# [10:16] <darktrojan> heh
# [10:16] <NeilAway> nigelb: in the case of planet, it used to degrade badly, because it sent a content type that IE6 didn't want
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# [10:16] <darktrojan> yeah, it's borked now
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# [10:17] <Unfocused> "we don't serve your kind here"
# [10:18] <nigelb> NeilAway: I like how Unfocused is thinking.
# [10:18] <glazou> Ms2ger: if we do that, there are two different sources of info to monitor
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# [10:19] <nigelb> However, we should probably support users using IE6 to download Firefox.
# [10:19] <Unfocused> on planet?
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# [10:19] <darktrojan> support ALL the browsers
# [10:21] <hsivonen> hmm. mak and Mano aren't here. Anyone have any idea what the deal with the mozilla::storage::StatementCache<mozIStorageStatement>::GetCachedStatement crash on Mac is?
# [10:21] <hsivonen> (X orange on inbound)
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# [10:27] <hsivonen> well, I guess I won't be meeting my Q1 goals today after all
# [10:27] <hsivonen> I suppose I have to back out my patch
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> :(
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# [10:36] <aregee> hi i am interested in ISPDB /thunderbird project for gsoc..
# [10:36] <aregee> who is mentoring this project ??
# [10:37] <Unfocused> aregee: someone in #maildev will know
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# [10:39] <aregee> thanks for the pointer :)
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# [10:49] <dwarfcrank> hsivonen: Hi, are you particularly busy? I'd like to ask a few questions about this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729048
# [10:50] <Ms2ger> dwarfcrank, hi, what's your question?
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# [10:50] <hsivonen> dwarfcrank: what's the question?
# [10:51] <dwarfcrank> There's already CheckQName in nsContentUtils, though it just calls nsParserService::CheckQName
# [10:51] <dwarfcrank> The function arguments differ though, and apparently the colon parameter of nsParserService::CheckQName is ignored in the one in nsContentUtils
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# [10:52] <hsivonen> dwarfcrank: if there are callers of the nsParserService version that use the colon parameter, you could add the colon parameter as an optional parameter to the nsContentUtils version
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# [10:53] <dwarfcrank> Yeah, thought so, I'm about to go through the other call sites and see if they use it
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# [11:03] <ztane> is the geolocation popup dialog dismissal going to ever be fixed in any way or another, that is, bug 591745?
# [11:03] <ztane> or where to discuss tihs?
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# [11:04] <ztane> *this
# [11:05] <hsivonen> is there a way to view full email headers in zimbra?
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# [11:06] <Unfocused> hsivonen: pretty sure there used to be... don't remember seeing it in the new version
# [11:07] <nthomas|away> in the list of messages, right click and select Show Original
# [11:07] <Unfocused> hsivonen: oh, in the message list, right click - show original
# [11:07] <Unfocused> ... damnit
# [11:10] <Unfocused> ztane: fwiw, i have no idea
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# [11:14] <hsivonen> nthomas|away, Unfocused: thanks
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# [11:16] <mak> hsivonen: hi, see my comment in the bug
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# [11:18] <hsivonen> mak: thanks
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# [11:22] <NeilAway> mak: is bookmarkProperties a modal dialog?
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# [11:23] <mak> NeilAway: hm, iirc not always but that changed a couple times
# [11:23] <hsivonen> mak: is it the same problem with the other failing test, too?
# [11:23] <mak> hsivonen: which other failing test?
# [11:23] <NeilAway> mak: ah, ok, that would explain why it calls uninitPanel(true) - false suffices for a dialog because it's going away anyway
# [11:23] <hsivonen> mak: test_clearHistory_shutdown.js
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# [11:24] <mak> hsivonen: ah yes
# [11:24] <NeilAway> mak: so there's no point collapsing the expanders in that case
# [11:24] <mak> NeilAway: so I just checked, it's always modal
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# [11:26] <mak> NeilAway: hm, I think we do that collapsing cause we remember their status?
# [11:27] <mak> and likely in the dialog we don't want to
# [11:27] <@smaug> hsivonen: does Bug 672453 mean that one needs to put charset to all the data urls ?
# [11:27] <mak> but I could just recall wrongly
# [11:27] <@smaug> ...to avoid the warning
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# [11:28] <hsivonen> smaug: yes if you want to avoid the warning
# [11:28] <@smaug> huh
# [11:28] <@smaug> that is annoying
# [11:28] <@smaug> very annoying
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# [11:29] <@smaug> hsivonen: do other browsers warn if you use data urls without charset= ?
# [11:29] <hsivonen> smaug: dunno, but it would be nice to be a leader instead of just following what IE and Chrome do
# [11:29] <@smaug> sure
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# [11:29] <hsivonen> smaug: the thing is that without an explicit charset, the problem that's being warned about exists
# [11:30] <@smaug> but as someone who uses data: for all sorts of testing etc. it would be annoying to get warnings all the time
# [11:30] <hsivonen> smaug: well, sure, it's annoying for the people who write test cases
# [11:30] <hsivonen> smaug: but the purpose is to make non-test real sites suck less
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# [11:31] <hsivonen> smaug: FWIW, Hixie also optimized HTML conformance reqs in this area for test case writers instead of real sites, which I think is a priority of constituencies violation
# [11:31] <@smaug> hsivonen: would it be possible to fix data url to default to utf8 or something ?
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# [11:31] <hsivonen> smaug: dunno.
# [11:32] <hsivonen> smaug: it would be odd if different URL schemes were different
# [11:32] <hsivonen> in terms of payload behavior
# [11:32] <hsivonen> smaug: a recent IETF draft (rightly IMO) says not to do that
# [11:33] <hsivonen> smaug: for test cases, the warning doesn't matter if you aren't also listening to console messages as part of the test
# [11:33] <@smaug> hsivonen: well, what about not whining about data: urls
# [11:33] <newn> hi
# [11:33] <hsivonen> smaug: that would mean sites could make more undetected errors so that test case writers could pretend they aren't writing errors
# [11:33] <@smaug> data: urls should stay IMO very simple to use
# [11:33] <@smaug> hsivonen: right
# [11:34] <@smaug> hmm
# [11:34] <NeilAway> mak: well, if you do, that bit didn't get ported to SeaMonkey
# [11:35] <hsivonen> smaug: this isn't a real problem for all your tests that don't listen to the console
# [11:36] <hsivonen> smaug: listening to the console is very rare in our tests
# [11:36] <newn> how can i check if a progresslistener is attached to any tab or not ?
# [11:36] <newn> plz help !
# [11:36] <hsivonen> smaug: it would be super-sad not to do this just because of test cases
# [11:37] <@smaug> hsivonen: well, it is not just that
# [11:37] <@smaug> it is about making harder to write simple things
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# [11:38] <hsivonen> smaug: making it simple to write simple things has the problem that English-oriented people test with ASCII only and then their stuff breaks with non-ASCII content
# [11:38] <hsivonen> smaug: so perf aside, Hixie's idea of being silent when the content happens to be all-ASCII is a bad idea
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# [11:40] <hsivonen> smaug: but inspecting the payload for all-ASCIIness seems like a bad idea in a browser perf-wise
# [11:40] <hsivonen> smaug: also, you still get to write erroneous simple things if you ignore the console whine
# [11:40] <hsivonen> smaug: if you know what you are doing, you can ignore the whine for test cases
# [11:41] <@smaug> I'm going to r+ this, but I'm not sure if the patch will stick
# [11:41] <newn> PLZ HELP
# [11:41] <hsivonen> smaug: I think we shouldn't optimize for non-test-case ASCII-only data: URLs
# [11:41] <hsivonen> smaug: thanks
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# [11:44] <Unfocused> newn: afaik, you can't
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# [11:45] <newn> damn
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# [11:48] <hsivonen> smaug: what's wrong with <meta charset=utf-8> ? It's less keystrokes to type.
# [11:48] <@smaug> hsivonen: rest of the file doesn't use attribute values without ""
# [11:49] <@smaug> at least most of those test files
# [11:49] <@smaug> consistency
# [11:49] <hsivonen> smaug: :-( grr. legacy XHTMLism. ok.
# [11:49] <@smaug> also, with "" it is easier to read
# [11:49] <newn> XHTMLism is a religion?
# [11:50] <@smaug> it is a dying religion
# [11:50] <@smaug> but "" is, IMO, not XHTMLism
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# [11:50] <newn> why? whats the alternative
# [11:51] <newn> what other religion would allow to , for example , embed flash object ?
# [11:51] <newn> i will proteest
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# [11:55] <glazou> wow, pmo is down for me
# [11:56] <darktrojan> yes it is
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# [11:56] <darktrojan> reed broke it
# [11:56] <glazou> quite rare event
# [11:56] <newn> pmo means prime minister's office ?
# [11:56] <darktrojan> pimp my onion
# [11:56] <Ms2ger> planet.mozilla.org
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# [11:57] <newn> what does that mean? that looks like y0 y0 america roX type english
# [11:57] <mak> hsivonen: fwiw, those are not crash, but fatal assertion (MOZ_ASSERT likely)
# [11:57] <Ms2ger> Like bmo for bugzilla.mozilla.org
# [11:57] <newn> Ms2ger: hmmm
# [11:57] <glazou> newn: not even, that's just local jargon
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# [11:58] <newn> how much engineers get paid who work for mozilla (firefox) ?
# [11:58] <newn> i mean whats thier salary
# [11:58] <hsivonen> mak: well, the log says "crash" even though they are intentional crashes
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# [12:01] <newn> darktrojan: you built a trojan?
# [12:01] <Ms2ger> Yay
# [12:01] <Ms2ger> The patch for the new DOM bindings is up to 25000 lines
# [12:02] <@smaug> Ms2ger: mostly new code?
# [12:02] <darktrojan> newn, yes I'm haxing you with it now
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> Mostly workers
# [12:02] <@smaug> workers!
# [12:02] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: generated or manual?
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> Actual m-c code
# [12:03] <@smaug> so bent is rewriting workers again
# [12:03] <Ms2ger> The generated code for XHR itself is ~2000 lines
# [12:03] <newn> darktrojan: well trojan cant , only that pwn20wn guyz hax FF everytime quite easily , so FF is better to hax me !
# [12:03] <@smaug> and then he will rewrite it again once I make CC to work in workers...
# [12:04] <Ms2ger> smaug, well, he manages to get paid for it, so good for him ;)
# [12:05] <Ms2ger> 17000 lines diff excluding workers...
# [12:05] <@smaug> that is a lot
# [12:05] <@smaug> hopefully it is code I don't understand at all
# [12:05] <@smaug> (so that I don't have to review it )
# [12:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: you're counting also all the generator code
# [12:06] <@smaug> python thingie
# [12:06] <Ms2ger> The python, yes
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# [12:07] <hsivonen> Don't we have a REWRITE ALL THE THINGS Mozilla Meme yet?
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> And the WebIDL parser
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> (~5000 lines together)
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# [12:09] <@smaug> hsivonen: :)
# [12:09] <@smaug> I was just reading masayuki's comment about rewriting ESM
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# [12:09] <@smaug> though, I think he means only wheel handling
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# [12:10] <Ms2ger> The fun stuff about this mass of code is that we're still slower than Safari
# [12:10] <@smaug> but faster than chrome
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# [12:10] <@smaug> so the situation isn't that bad
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# [12:11] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: what does Safari do to make the JS/C++ boundary faster?
# [12:11] <Ms2ger> No idea
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# [12:12] <newn> hsivonen: they do js to asm directly
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# [12:13] <Ms2ger> Well, so do we
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# [12:14] <newn> then !! still!
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# [12:17] <newn> Ms2ger: one confession , reading such large open source software is like drinking beer.
# [12:17] <newn> its so pleasurable
# [12:17] <newn> *open source software source code
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# [12:23] <newn> how can i check if a progresslistener is attached to any tab or not ?
# [12:23] <newn> PLZ HELP
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# [12:28] <darktrojan> for all those of you missing planet http://www.darktrojan.net/test/venus/
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# [12:31] <hsivonen> weird. PDF.js gets a foreign-install warning
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# [12:32] <@smaug> hsivonen: yeah, that is strange
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# [12:32] <@smaug> I did assume there is a bug filed
# [12:32] <@smaug> mak: right?
# [12:33] <mak> yes
# [12:33] <ztane> jdm: hi, about bug 591745, geolocation and popup permission query...
# [12:33] * @smaug filed few other pdf.js bugs last night
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# [12:34] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: I wonder if it's worthwhile to make nsParser::OnStopRequest call some kind of nsIHTMLContentSink::GenerateAboutBlank for now and carve out all the near-dead-code from nsDTD and nsHTMLTokenizer
# [12:34] <mak> smaug: well, actually not sure if a bug already exists, I just know the discussion in bug 714712 is going on and all sides are well aware of the issue
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# [12:34] <jdm> ztane: yes?
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, might be nice
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# [12:37] <ztane> jdm: there is still no way to have either callback given to navigator.geolocation.getCurrentPosition called when the user clicks on the x, or outside of the popup message?
# [12:37] <jdm> ztane: correct.
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# [12:38] <Unfocused> hsivonen / smaug: yea, it's known
# [12:39] <hsivonen> Unfocused: ok
# [12:39] <ztane> jdm: many sites seem to expect that callback to be called, and for our project it would be nice too...
# [12:40] <jdm> ztane: it's something you're going to have to deal with. sorry!
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# [12:46] <ztane> jdm: hmm... is there any way to know that the user has not previously accepted sharing the location?
# [12:46] <jdm> ztane: how previously do you mean?
# [12:47] <jdm> you could store a cookie/localStorage/indexedDB item saying that they have accepted the sharing if they do so
# [12:48] <ztane> true, but it does not tell if it is now or always
# [12:48] <jdm> oh, no.
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# [12:48] <ztane> I expected the callback being called immediately if I set timeout to 1, but that is not true either
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# [12:49] <jdm> ztane: the timeout will throw an error if the position is not cached, in that case
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# [12:50] <ztane> yes, but not if the user never accepted :D
# [12:50] <ztane> would have expected it to give error: permission denied or not available or something in that case
# [12:50] <ztane> but no.
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# [12:51] <jdm> yeah, the timeout only has to do with the actual location information request, as opposed to the permission request.
# [12:51] <ztane> :/
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# [12:52] <jdm> ztane: I'm curious - you already handle the fact the getCurrentLocation is asynchronous. Why is dealing with no response for an unbounded amount of time so much harder?
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# [12:53] <ztane> bc the position information is optional in this case
# [12:53] <ztane> it provides better user experience, but we can still work without it
# [12:53] <jdm> ah, I see.
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# [12:54] <ztane> so we can wait for 5 seconds say, if it could works, if it does not work for sure, we do not want to wait for 5 seconds :)
# [12:54] <ztane> *could work
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# [12:57] <jdm> 8am - sounds like my bedtime
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# [12:58] <ztane> :D
# [12:58] <ztane> gnight
# [12:58] <jdm> night!
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# [13:27] <Ms2ger> Hi edmorley
# [13:27] <edmorley> Ms2ger: hi :-)
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# [13:31] <ztane> hmm, w3c draft for geoloc says that navigator.watchPosition error callback shall be called repeatedly, mdn states that it would be called at most once
# [13:33] <@smaug> ztane: better to ask dougt
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# [13:40] <ztane> dok
# [13:40] <ztane> *ok
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# [13:42] <NeilAway> Unfocused: do you know whether it's going to be fixed in packaging or in a grungier way?
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# [13:44] <Unfocused> pdf.js? no idea yet
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# [13:52] <dao> michal: you don't need to add [inbound] anymore. in fact you shouldn't, since removing it is extra work for those resolving the bug
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# [14:02] <@smaug> hsivonen: I wonder if we could hook the parsing of background tabs to the refreshdriver of the chrome
# [14:02] <@smaug> right now, I think, whenever parsing is interrupted, parser just dispatches a new runnable
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# [14:03] <@smaug> but if it would actually use refresh timer, there would be more time for other things to happen, I think
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# [14:07] <@smaug> hsivonen: basically, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/parser/html/nsHtml5TreeOpExecutor.cpp#322 could do something else when the document is in background tab
# [14:07] <@smaug> hsivonen: does that make sense?
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# [14:10] <sewardj> mats: ping
# [14:11] <mats> pong
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# [14:11] <@smaug> hsivonen: DidProcessATokenImpl() should also more likely return NS_ERROR_HTMLPARSER_INTERRUPTED when in background tab
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# [14:11] <mats> sewardj: pong
# [14:12] <sewardj> mats: can i ask something (simple) about nsFrameSelection::GetFrameForNodeOffset?
# [14:12] <mats> sewardj: sure
# [14:13] <sewardj> mats: basically that there seems to be some type confusion between HINT and bool
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# [14:13] <sewardj> mats: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1532105
# [14:13] <sewardj> is this intended?
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# [14:15] <mats> sewardj: no, that's a bug
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# [14:16] <sewardj> mats: ok .. came across it whilst trying to track down bug 726592
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# [14:17] <mats> sewardj: nice catch
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# [14:18] <mats> sewardj: it looks like nsIFrame::GetFrameForNodeOffset and its subclasses use bool throughout...
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# [14:19] <sewardj> mats: ok, noted in the bug.
# [14:19] <mats> sewardj: so perhaps it's easiest to change nsSelection.cpp to aHint==HINTLEFT
# [14:20] <sewardj> mats: well sure (I might do that) but atm I'm trying to find out why aHint is used uninitialised
# [14:20] <mats> sewardj: correction, false actually means left, so aHint!=HINTLEFT
# [14:21] <mats> sewardj: ok, please file a separate bug if you want and CC me
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# [14:21] <mats> sewardj: it might be clearer to remove 'bool' actually...
# [14:25] <sewardj> mats: it gets worse
# [14:26] <sewardj> tHint = (HINT)pos.mAttachForward;
# [14:26] <sewardj> mAttachForward is bool
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# [14:27] <mats> sewardj: enum HINT { HINTLEFT = 0, HINTRIGHT = 1}
# [14:28] <mats> sewardj: so, while cryptic, it might just work :-)
# [14:29] <mats> sewardj: we should definitely clean this up though
# [14:29] <sewardj> mats: oh, i know, i saw that. but am wondering what happens in the compiled code if sizeof(HINT) != sizeof(bool)
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# [14:30] <sewardj> can we wind up making decisions on uninitialised garbage in the top half of a word, or some such?
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# [14:30] <sewardj> (i wonder -- am not asking you)
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# [14:30] <mats> sewardj: assignment between int/bool is well defined, no?
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# [14:31] <sewardj> mats: probably is, I guess (dunno for sure)
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# [14:33] <sewardj> mats: maybe I'll temporarily redefine HINT to be a struct, so g++ will complain about the mismatch points
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# [14:47] <mats> sewardj: I suspect that "pos.mAttachForward" was never set...
# [14:47] <mats> sewardj: does the problem go away if you set aPos->mAttachForward to false at the top in nsIFrame::PeekOffset ?
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# [14:51] <froydnj> do I need to set any bugzilla flags for bugs uplifted to aurora?
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# [14:52] <Ms2ger> status-firefox13: fixed?
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# [14:52] <Ms2ger> froydnj, ^
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# [14:52] <froydnj> Ms2ger: thanks
# [14:52] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [14:53] <dwarfcrank> hsivonen: I got a couple of patches for that nsParserService::CheckQName bug, can I ask you to review them or is there someone else who should do it?
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# [14:53] <Ms2ger> dwarfcrank, hsivonen can do it
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# [14:53] <dwarfcrank> All right
# [14:54] <Ms2ger> And thanks for fixing!
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# [14:54] <dwarfcrank> No prob, glad to help
# [14:54] <dwarfcrank> It's in multiple parts, separated by files, is that all right or should I roll them into one?
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# [15:12] <decoder> this safe mode startup prompt is the most annoying feature ive ever encountered so far >.<
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# [15:15] <Ms2ger> 2222 // Note: Don't use NS_ENSURE_* here since we return a failure result to
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> 2223 // inicate that we found the magical cookie and we don't want to spam the
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> 2224 // console.
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> 2225 rv = FindTargetNode(child, aResult);
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> 2226 NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv);
# [15:15] <froydnj> fail
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# [15:16] <Ms2ger> I'd call it "editor"
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# [15:21] <Steve> so you guys will probably laugh at me but I want to propose an xml enhancement. <element> hierarchy </> should be legal. </> means close current element.
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# [15:25] <tonymec> Steve: I don't know which editor you use, but Vim with the CloseTab plugin can help you, see http://www.vim.org/
# [15:26] <Steve> I don't want an editor to change it. I want it to be legal syntax.
# [15:26] <Ms2ger> Well, you're out of luck, then
# [15:26] <Steve> no. been using it in our custom xml parser for ages. it's feking annoying when I do stuff in html browsers that I have to use the old long hand.
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# [15:27] <Steve> firebug just whined at me that my file has invalid syntax and I just sigh & go, no, you're wrong.
# [15:27] <Ms2ger> On the contrary, it is correct
# [15:27] <Ms2ger> </> is not valid XML
# [15:27] <froydnj> if you're using that syntax, you're not writing xml, you're writing something else (like sgml)
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# [15:28] <Steve> it is correct to current spec. hence recommendation for xml syntax enhancement
# [15:28] <Ms2ger> You're wrong there
# [15:28] <Steve> no I'm extending.
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# [15:28] <Ms2ger> "it is correct to current spec"
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# [15:28] <Steve> you laugh because this is really low level stuff that's been cast in stone for years.
# [15:28] <Ms2ger> Oh, that way
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> I misread you, sorry
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# [15:29] <Steve> anyway you get it I think. not expecting an overnight change. just wanted to share a thought.
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> In any case, this is up to the XML Core WG; feel free to propose it at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/
# [15:30] <Steve> thanks for the link. will do.
# [15:30] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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# [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8042c37b8100 - Kyle Huey - Bug 737875. r=hsivonen
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# [15:58] <@khuey> so
# [15:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dc5c600d5fe3 - Joel Maher - Bug 737458 - add tp5row and cleanup config.py. r=armenzg
# [15:58] <@khuey> who knows how to operate dxr?
# [15:58] * @bz usually operates it via Cmd-W after discovering it's still broken. :(
# [15:59] <Ms2ger> A little
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# [15:59] <@khuey> heh
# [15:59] <edmorley> bz++
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# [16:00] <Ms2ger> Who reviews localStorage?
# [16:00] <Ms2ger> khuey?
# [16:00] <@khuey> no
# [16:00] <@khuey> mayhemer
# [16:00] <Mavericks> khuey: what about dxr
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# [16:01] <Mavericks> khuey: interested to know
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# [16:02] <@khuey> I want to find all callers of nsCOMArray::AppendElement
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# [16:02] <@khuey> I have no idea how to do that though
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# [16:02] <@khuey> er
# [16:02] <@khuey> AppendObject, of course
# [16:02] * @khuey could probably just MXR for AppendObject
# [16:03] <Ms2ger> khuey, http://dxr.lanedo.com/search.cgi?tree=mozilla-central&string=AppendObject
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# [16:03] <Ms2ger> No callers, apparently
# [16:04] <@khuey> heh
# [16:04] <@khuey> is this the part where we operate it with Ctrl W?
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# [16:07] <@khuey> [nsresult] rv = agentSheets.AppendObject(sheet);
# [16:07] <@khuey> NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv);
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# [16:08] <Ms2ger> AppendObject returns bool?
# [16:08] <@khuey> yes
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# [16:08] <@khuey> ehsan: ping
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# [16:08] <@ehsan> khuey: hi
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# [16:08] <@khuey> ehsan: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/25e44442a6e8#l1.108 is a little busted
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# [16:09] <@ehsan> khuey: how come?
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# [16:09] <Ms2ger> <Ms2ger> AppendObject returns bool?
# [16:09] <@ehsan> huh
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# [16:10] <@ehsan> oh C++ how I loathe thee
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# [16:10] <@khuey> heh
# [16:10] <@ehsan> I'll file a bug
# [16:10] <@khuey> ty
# [16:10] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: how do you find this stuff?!
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> Ask khuey
# [16:11] <@khuey> not with DXR!
# [16:11] <@khuey> :-P
# [16:11] <@ehsan> lol
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# [16:11] <@khuey> ehsan: a quick mxr search for anything like 737875
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# [16:12] <@khuey> "rv =" stuck out
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# [16:12] <@khuey> you're not the only one who has done that, fwiw ;-)
# [16:12] <@ehsan> nice
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# [16:12] <@ehsan> yeah I'm sure
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# [16:13] <@ehsan> implicit conversions are the worst idea ever in PLs
# [16:13] <@khuey> yep
# [16:13] * @khuey wonders who to ping about the one in nsXULTemplateQueryProcessor.cpp
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# [16:13] <@ehsan> khuey: bz ;)
# [16:14] <@khuey> actually, looks like Enn
# [16:14] <@khuey> though bz reviewed
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# [16:16] <Mavericks> khuey: do you get an ambiguous function message when u search for it using callers ?
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# [16:17] <@ehsan> khuey: hmm, so can you explain how this ever worked?
# [16:17] <@ehsan> cause true will be converted to 1
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# [16:18] <@ehsan> and 1 will fails NS_SUCCEEDED
# [16:18] <Ms2ger> 1 is a success code
# [16:18] <Mavericks> khuey: simple string search gives more information than resolving the ambiguity by clicking on AppendObject(s)
# [16:18] <@khuey> it will?
# [16:18] <@khuey> since when?
# [16:18] <@ehsan> I thought 0 is our success code!
# [16:18] <@khuey> right, all non-negative numbers are success codes
# [16:18] <@khuey> all negative numbers are failure codes
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# [16:18] <@ehsan> oh so we check the most significant bit?
# [16:19] <Ms2ger> We use the high bit, yes
# [16:19] <@khuey> Mavericks: I didn't even try to use DXR, Ms2ger said it didn't work so I used MXR
# [16:19] <@khuey> ehsan: right
# [16:19] <Mavericks> khuey: got it
# [16:19] <@ehsan> ok
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# [16:19] <@ehsan> that explains it
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# [16:19] <Ms2ger> You never noticed they all start 0x8....? :)
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# [16:19] <@ehsan> it's nice to see how little I know about xpcom after all these years ;)
# [16:19] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: yeah but I had never actually looked at the definition of NS_SUCCEEDED
# [16:20] <Ms2ger> Never seen non-NS_OK success codes either?
# [16:20] <@khuey> they're pretty rare
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# [16:20] <@bz> until you do something!
# [16:20] * @khuey is a fan of NS_SUCCESS_I_DID_SOMETHING though
# [16:20] * @bz is rather proud of that name
# [16:21] <@bz> or something
# [16:21] <Ms2ger> I've had the unfortunate experience of touching the old HTML parser
# [16:21] <@khuey> heh
# [16:21] <@ehsan> ok this is now bug 738649
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# [16:21] <Ms2ger> Oh, bz is to blame / praise for that name?
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# [16:22] <Ms2ger> I'd honestly expected it to be something to come out of Netscape :)
# [16:22] <Mavericks> is it possible for b.m.o to redirect to bugzilla. in the near future? it's handy heh
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# [16:24] <@ehsan> khuey: wanna review my patch?
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> glwt
# [16:24] <@bz> Ms2ger: well, I'm to blame, but Netscape gets the blame for the API I had to work with.... ;)
# [16:24] <@bz> ms2ger: where I had a single nsresult value that needed to effectively communicate a tristate. ;)
# [16:25] <@ehsan> or maybe bz?
# [16:25] <Ms2ger> Better than a boolean
# [16:25] <@bz> ms2ger: with two of the states being success conditions
# [16:25] <@bz> ms2ger: well, I had a boolean too
# [16:25] <@bz> ms2ger: I decided that was a bad vehicle for the tristate
# [16:25] <@khuey> ehsan: sure
# [16:26] <@ehsan> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=608716&action=edit
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# [16:26] <@khuey> ship it
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# [16:27] <Mavericks> never knew until now 0 's a success state here. does feel a little strange but know the reason now. takes some time to get used to it
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# [16:27] <@khuey> well, 0 is a success state in XPCOM because 0 is a success state in COM
# [16:27] <Ms2ger> 0 isn't a success state, NS_OK is ;)
# [16:27] <@khuey> but everyone uses the macros
# [16:27] <@khuey> so you don't have to think about it
# [16:28] <Ms2ger> Well, some people use false and nsnull
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# [16:30] <@khuey> scumbag mozilla engineer
# [16:30] <@khuey> nsresult nsFoo::DoFoo() {
# [16:30] <@khuey> return false;
# [16:30] <@khuey> }
# [16:31] <@bz> we should find a meme image for "scumbag mozilla refactoring tool"
# [16:32] <Mavericks> does http://miburl.com/ZpTy2S help any
# [16:32] <Ms2ger> bz, http://bit.ly/GIzX5M ?
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# [16:33] <jprmc> mounir: ping
# [16:33] <@khuey> Ms2ger: lolz
# [16:33] <@khuey> Mavericks: ooh nice
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# [16:33] <@khuey> now to find someone to audit all these
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# [16:34] <mounir> jprmc: pong
# [16:34] <jprmc> mounir: I'm looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708175
# [16:34] <derf> BTW, if anyone at this company still gives a damn about free codecs, now would be an excellent time to pile on: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg03752.html
# [16:34] <@ehsan> khuey: somebody was looking into making nsCOMArray infallible at some point, right?
# [16:34] <jprmc> mounir: with the latest native nightly which should have https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730289
# [16:35] <Mavericks> khuey: heh, doesn't use callers: tho. which's supposed to work. need to investigate why i don't see results that way
# [16:35] <@ehsan> do you remember anything about that?
# [16:35] <jprmc> mounir: i'm only seeing a browse button
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# [16:35] <jprmc> mounir: on my phone
# [16:35] <jprmc> mounir: using the test case in the bug http://people.mozilla.com/~jhammink/webapi_test_pages/CameraAPIdemo.html
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# [16:35] <jprmc> mounir: do you know what's up?
# [16:35] <mounir> jprmc: that's expected
# [16:35] <mounir> what you shouldn't see is a "Capture" button
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# [16:36] <mounir> someone knows where I could find a Firefox 9 tgz ?
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# [16:36] <jprmc> mounir: what do you use to get the capture button now?
# [16:36] <sourabh912> what is the name of jared wein on irc channel?
# [16:36] <jprmc> mounir: or do you just get the one button?
# [16:36] <@bz> back in a few mins
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# [16:37] <Callek> mounir: yes if you mean linux or source ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/9.0.1/
# [16:37] <Callek> (or you can do 9.0 if you really didn't want the .1)
# [16:37] <jprmc> mounir: if so, isn't that less usable in a sense? because now i have to know that I need to pick the camera app to do the live thing, correct?
# [16:37] <mounir> jprmc: if you click on the file picker, you will be asked if you want to pick a file or take a picture
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# [16:38] <jprmc> or choose a music track in my case
# [16:38] <jprmc> or use the camcorder
# [16:38] <jprmc> (galaxy nexus)
# [16:38] <@khuey> sourabh912: jaws
# [16:38] <mounir> Callek: I was exactly looking for that, thanks :)
# [16:38] <Callek> mounir: although I slightly lied, its tarbz instead of targz :-)
# [16:38] <Callek> s/bz/bz2/
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# [16:39] <@khuey> derf: you should get brendan to respond there
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# [16:41] <Ms2ger> Or just kill webrtc
# [16:41] <brendan> khuey: tim already did
# [16:41] <brendan> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg03754.html
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# [16:42] <BenWa> Nice! We're shipping pdf.js!
# [16:43] <BenWa> That's a big improvement on OSX
# [16:43] <jhammel> now i just need to find a pdf to try it on ;)
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# [16:44] <BenWa> I often see papers and manuals in PDF and I end up with 10 PDFs windows
# [16:44] <jhammel> i often avoid clicking on links because they're pdfs ;)
# [16:44] <jimm> BenWa: is that in today's nightly?
# [16:44] <jhammel> oh! my pizza place has a pdf menu
# [16:44] * jhammel looks
# [16:44] <jhammel> jimm: sure is
# [16:44] <BenWa> It will ask you to enable it when you update
# [16:45] * scrambledeggs disabled it already - someone said yesterday it leaks like crazy and would be backed out - not so far though
# [16:45] <@bz_away> jhammel: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-262.pdf is the thing I'd normally look at for pdfs... ;)
# [16:45] <BenWa> Well at least having this on the way is great
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# [16:45] <Ms2ger> scrambledeggs, if that was the same thing I heard, it was wrong
# [16:45] <AryehGregor> ehsan, pong. What do you mean by "register your own command manager"? Who can register command managers? Not webpages, I hope. Extensions? Is the editor code a mess partly because it can't be refactored too much because there are external dependencies of some kind?
# [16:45] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: extensions, and other xul apps
# [16:46] <Ms2ger> At least we can ignore Camino, then
# [16:46] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: there are some external dependencies in comm-central
# [16:46] <@ehsan> but those we can fix
# [16:46] <@ehsan> there might be things that extensions rely on
# [16:46] <@ehsan> you could find those out in mxr.mozilla.org/addons
# [16:46] <jimm> BenWa: do you have to disable the adober plugin first? it's still loading for me.
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> Blech.
# [16:46] <@ehsan> there's also stuff which is just over-engineered
# [16:46] <derf> khuey: Yes, contacted him and Mitchell.
# [16:46] <BenWa> jimm: There's no adobe reader on mac, that's why it's such a big win there
# [16:46] <@ehsan> (most of the editor code is in fact)
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> The entire editor looks massively overengineered.
# [16:46] <AryehGregor> Er, right.
# [16:46] <BenWa> But the memory usage is huge, it doesn't appear to clear stuff from previous pages
# [16:47] <lmandel> Anyone know who worked on bundling pdf.js with the latest nightly?
# [16:47] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: we've been doing a lot of small fixes over the time
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# [16:47] <@ehsan> but there's a looooong way to go still
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, like Gecko, then :)
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# [16:47] <@ehsan> lmandel: Yoric I think
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> You haven't looked at docshell yet?
# [16:47] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, most Gecko code I've worked with seems fairly reasonable.
# [16:47] <Yoric> Mmmh?
# [16:47] <AryehGregor> That means DOM stuff, I guess, and some CSS stuff.
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# [16:47] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: docshell compared to editor is like a sweet little baby
# [16:47] <lmandel> Yoric: Correct? Did you work on bundling pdf.js?
# [16:47] <Yoric> Nope.
# [16:47] <lmandel> :)
# [16:47] <Yoric> Never touched pdf.js.
# [16:48] <jhammel> is text not selectable with pdf.js? or is it just this pdf?
# [16:48] <@ehsan> oh sorry
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# [16:48] <@ehsan> I confused Yoric with someone else
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, well, we've been working on that for a decade... Editor, not so much
# [16:48] <Yoric> No problem.
# [16:48] <AryehGregor> I remember when I dived in to write my first patch (maxLength support for textarea), I thought: "If this is well-written, the patch should be only a few lines, because textarea and input should share almost all their code and it should be just a matter of enabling the same feature for textarea as is already enabled for input."
# [16:48] <Ms2ger> He. He. He.
# [16:48] <AryehGregor> The patch wound up being a few lines, and I wrote it in like two hours with no prior Gecko experience.
# [16:48] <@khuey> lmandel: yury
# [16:48] <@khuey> iirc
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# [16:49] <Ms2ger> Oh, that was actually the case?
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# [16:49] <AryehGregor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535043
# [16:49] <AryehGregor> https://bug535043.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=419293
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# [16:49] <AryehGregor> Final patch was -1 line, +6 lines.
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# [16:49] <AryehGregor> Well, I say "final".
# [16:50] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: well you were lucky ;)
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# [16:50] <@ehsan> don't get used to it ;)
# [16:50] <AryehGregor> It turns out it didn't work right with newlines, perhaps unsurprisingly.
# [16:50] <AryehGregor> Someone filed a followup.
# [16:50] <jhammel> ah, just this pdf, nm
# [16:50] <AryehGregor> ehsan, that was my experience with most of the things I've worked on so far.
# [16:50] <AryehGregor> The editor patches I've written have been very noticeably more annoying than the DOM and transforms ones.
# [16:50] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: the worst thing in the editor code is when you try to understand/modify one of the editing algorithms
# [16:51] <@ehsan> it's mostly black magic
# [16:51] <@ehsan> and you never know if you're gonna break something
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# [16:51] <@ehsan> well, now less than before
# [16:51] <@ehsan> cause now at least we have a bunch of tests
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# [16:58] <lmandel> khuey|away: thx
# [16:59] <lmandel> yury: did you work on bundling pdf.js in nightly?
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# [16:59] <AryehGregor> Some tbpl URLs seem to freeze at "Loading 9% ..." for me: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9b8810d40bea https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9a29b6e74b12
# [16:59] <AryehGregor> Does that happen for anyone else?
# [16:59] <AryehGregor> (with those URLs -- others seem to work okay)
# [17:01] <AryehGregor> Oh, they work.
# [17:01] <AryehGregor> They just took a while.
# [17:01] <AryehGregor> Never mind.
# [17:01] * AryehGregor should be more patient :)
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# [17:01] <yury> lmandel: yes
# [17:02] <lmandel> yury: Great. I have a question about the installation if you have a min.
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# [17:03] <yury> sure
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# [17:03] <lmandel> yury: When I restarted nightly I'm now prompted with "Another program on your computer would like to modify Nightly with the following add-on:". Is this correct? Is it another program on my computer or is pdf.js bundled in Nightly itself?
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# [17:05] <yury> lmandel: somebody in 714712 exposed that issue and trying to look into that
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# [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c1bfb6203345 - Dão Gottwald - merge backout
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/344e07332d52 - Dão Gottwald - Backed out changeset bf13c2253055
# [17:07] <AryehGregor> ehsan, do the crashtest failures from here look like they could be related to my patch? I don't see how they could possibly trigger it. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9b8810d40bea
# [17:07] <@ehsan> looking
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# [17:08] <AryehGregor> But the crashtest is editor-related, so I find it hard to believe it's a coincidence that it fails on six different builds with my patch applied . . .
# [17:08] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, they're passes
# [17:08] <AryehGregor> Oh!
# [17:08] <AryehGregor> Weird.
# [17:09] * AryehGregor hasn't ever dealt with crashtests before
# [17:09] * AryehGregor reads docs
# [17:09] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: seems like you've fixed an assertion :)
# [17:09] <AryehGregor> But only in some builds?
# [17:09] <lmandel> yury: I see that it was mentioned in comment 101 and later. Is there a separate bug tracking this issue?
# [17:09] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: those are only checked in debug builds
# [17:10] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: see this log https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10314703&tree=Firefox&full=1
# [17:10] <AryehGregor> Oh, okay.
# [17:10] <@ehsan> (look for 633709.xhtml
# [17:10] <lmandel> yury: (as bug 714712 has been resolved)
# [17:10] <@ehsan> to see the assertion)
# [17:10] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: you can adjust the assertion annotation in crashtests.list
# [17:11] <yury> lmandel: yeah, it's hard filter stuff out from that bug
# [17:11] <AryehGregor> ehsan, but probably my patch doesn't really fix the assertion, it just hides it because it goes down a different codepath due to styleWithCSS being false.
# [17:11] <@ehsan> indeed
# [17:11] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: bug 695364 is open for fixing the assertion for realz
# [17:12] <AryehGregor> So probably I should fix the test to run everything with styleWithCSS both true and false, so that it still asserts.
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# [17:13] <lmandel> yury: happy to file another bug if there isn't one. If there is I'll just cc myself to track (out of interest).
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# [17:13] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: you could do that too
# [17:13] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: r=me on both approaches :)
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# [17:13] <AryehGregor> ehsan, okay. :)
# [17:13] <yury> lmandel: please, thank you
# [17:13] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: fwiw, this is not very important, we hit all sorts of assertions in the editor code ;)
# [17:14] <AryehGregor> Heh.
# [17:14] <AryehGregor> General question: when I do a tryserver run and find a couple of newly failing tests, and I verify the fails on localhost and update my patch to eliminate the fails there, should I bother doing a new tryserver run before pushing to inbound? I guess there's no point, right?
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# [17:15] <Ms2ger> Depends on how paranoid you are :)
# [17:15] <lsblakk> heh
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# [17:15] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: there's no point if you understand the failure completely
# [17:15] <@ehsan> (and you believe in luck ;)
# [17:15] <jhammel> Ms2ger: you stole exactly what i was going to say
# [17:15] <lsblakk> you could do a push with just those tests, if you were really worried
# [17:15] <@ehsan> I usually don't bother
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> jhammel, only you would have introduced grammatical errors
# [17:15] <lsblakk> this is why inbound exists, right? :)
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# [17:16] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, no, inbound is for when you don't want to use try
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# [17:16] <lsblakk> ah, my bad
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> Nah, their bad
# [17:17] <catlee-buildduty> hehe
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# [17:21] <humph> there's a page somewhere on mozilla.org that has all the various mpl2 headers for c++, makefile, etc.
# [17:21] <humph> anyone know where it is?
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# [17:21] <humph> I can't seem to locate it
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# [17:22] <jdm> humph: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mozilla.org%2FMPL%2Fheaders%2F&ei=a6FsT_vqGuPs0gGRnN22Bg&usg=AFQjCNGXL68KxuVl0v37hf6UQMRvKNkcJg&sig2=MtWMz-EaYLW1serDAEEhvg
# [17:22] <jdm> oops
# [17:22] <Ms2ger> http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/headers/
# [17:22] <jdm> http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/headers/
# [17:22] <jdm> curses
# [17:22] <Ms2ger> :)
# [17:22] <jwir3> freelance writer
# [17:22] <jwir3> :D
# [17:22] <humph> is it cut down to that?
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# [17:22] <jdm> humph: yes, and it's fantastic
# [17:22] <humph> it used to be long, so I assumed this was not what I needed
# [17:22] <humph> well then
# [17:23] <jdm> the old headers were the silliest thing
# [17:23] <lmandel> yury: bug 738674 submitted.
# [17:23] <smaug> hmm, in which case do we try to open pdf using pdf.js
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# [17:24] <jdm> smaug: in as many cases as possible, afaik
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# [17:25] <smaug> but apparently not always
# [17:25] <smaug> maybe it depends on content type
# [17:25] <yury> correct
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# [17:28] * yury points that pdf.js team's home at #pdfjs
# [17:29] <jmaher> did the build requirements change for building inbound? I did a clobber with no luck, but mozilla-central builds just fine. here is what I see: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1532180
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# [17:29] <Ms2ger> error: taking address of temporary [-fpermissive]
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# [17:31] <jmaher> Ms2ger: does that make sense? I built on Wednesday no problem, just no luck today
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# [17:32] <Ms2ger> 1188 mImages.ReplaceElementAt(i, &teximg.forget());
# [17:32] <bdahl> smaug: pdf.js won't open under a few conditions: - 1) ff can't figure out the correct content type "application/pdf" 2) it wasn't a GET request 3) the page specified content-disposition header as attachment
# [17:32] <Ms2ger> Nice
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# [17:33] <jdm> bdahl: I thought POST requests were ok as well?
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> jmaher, feel free to back out 14b05b24d1e5
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# [17:34] <jhammel> bdahl: beh, i really wish it ignore content-disposition
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# [17:35] <jhammel> since it seems to be use wrongly 80% of the time
# [17:35] <bdahl> jdm: we currently pop up the save dialog on post request
# [17:35] <bdahl> jhammel: yes this has been a request, hopefully an option in the future
# [17:36] <AryehGregor> Is there a list somewhere of Mozilla employees/contractors?
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> phonebook.mozilla.com?
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# [17:36] <Ms2ger> If you have access to that
# [17:36] <AryehGregor> Doesn't seem to resolve.
# [17:36] <Mossop> The staff group in mozillians perhaps
# [17:36] <bent> phonebook.mozilla.org
# [17:37] <froydnj> what is the [orangefactor] annotation for on tbpl?
# [17:37] <jmaher> Ms2ger: seems as though linux64 builds are working fine on buildbot, not sure why I would need to back it out
# [17:37] <newn> hi , how can i get the url from onStateChange ?
# [17:37] <jmaher> froydnj: a link to orangefactor website for historical/graphical look at the failure
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# [17:40] <froydnj> jmaher: why does it automagically get added for some bugs but not others?
# [17:40] <froydnj> or is that just tree rules?
# [17:40] <jmaher> froydnj: not sure, maybe there isn't a reference in orangefactor for all bugs?
# [17:41] <jdm> newn: can you use the nsIRequest argument?
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# [17:42] <froydnj> jmaher: ah, still learning here. thanks!
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# [17:43] <froydnj> Kwan: no, tbpl
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# [17:44] <Kwan> froydnj: sorry, I meant maybe tbpl adds the link based on whether the bug entry has orangefactor in keyboard or title
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# [17:45] <jhammel> so i'm getting a lot of python: can't open file 'tools/buildfarm/maintenance/count_and_reboot.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
# [17:45] <jhammel> known?
# [17:45] <jhammel> on try
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# [17:45] <smontagu> What is this "Another program on your computer would like to modify Nightly with the following add-on: PDF Viewer"?
# [17:46] <gavin> a bug
# [17:46] <jhammel> smontagu: pdf.js
# [17:46] <smontagu> seems scary to me
# [17:46] <jhammel> (and a bug)
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# [17:46] <smaug> smontagu: it seems scary, yes
# [17:46] <gavin> bug 738674, in fact
# [17:46] <smaug> smontagu: but pdf.js is actually quite nice :)
# [17:46] <smaug> works reasonable well when pdf isn't huge
# [17:46] <smontagu> smaug: totally rocking :)
# [17:47] <sourabh912> can anyone tell me the irc channel name of jared wein
# [17:47] <gavin> jaws
# [17:47] <gavin> he's offline at the moment
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# [17:47] <AryehGregor> Why does it prompt you on whether you want the add-on if it's bundled? Is the idea that in the release, it will install itself silently?
# [17:48] <sourabh912> gavin:at what time I can contact him?
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# [17:49] <smaug> AryehGregor: because there is a bug
# [17:49] <AryehGregor> Makes sense. :)
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# [17:50] <newn> jdm: but how ??
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# [17:50] <jdm> newn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/public/nsIRequest.idl#48
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# [17:50] <jdm> the name attribute looks useful
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# [17:51] <gavin> sourabh912: he's usually always online, but his client got disconnected for some reason. he'll likely be around later today (maybe in an hour or two)
# [17:51] <jdm> newn: you could try querying to an nsIChannel as well
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# [17:52] <newn> jdm: but there ain't anything??
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# [17:56] <AryehGregor> ehsan, why does test_bug408231.html not test queryCommandIndeterm? Should I add tests for that while I'm updating it?
# [17:56] <@bz> newn: which url?
# [17:56] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: please
# [17:56] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [17:57] <mak> is planet mozilla broken? (not fetching new contents)
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# [17:58] <newn> bz: the url which the user runs or which opens when clicked on "open in new tab"
# [17:58] <@bz> so you have a STATE_IS_DOCUMENT|STATE_START notification or something?
# [17:59] <newn> bz: yes STATE_START
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# [17:59] <@bz> newn: QI the nsIRequest to nsIChannel
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# [17:59] <@bz> newn: and then if that's non-null get its URI
# [17:59] <newn> newn: thats the problem
# [17:59] <newn> bz: thats the problem
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# [18:00] <newn> bz: in case of "open in new tab" this listener is attached to that tab and in that particular case QI to nsIChannel fails with NO_INTERFACE
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# [18:01] <newn> bz: it works for tab under focus
# [18:01] <@bz> newn: well, what's the request when the QI fails?
# [18:01] <@bz> newn: the request.name, say
# [18:01] <@bz> newn: or is the request null?
# [18:01] <newn> request.name contains the url
# [18:01] <@bz> that's... quite odd
# [18:01] <newn> yes !
# [18:02] <@bz> what does your code look like, if I might as?
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# [18:02] <newn> oh wait i think i found some mistake
# [18:02] <newn> i hv been doing: aRequest.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsIChannel);
# [18:03] <newn> but i did not define nsIChannel !
# [18:03] <@bz> er....
# [18:03] <@bz> you don't need to define nsIChannel....
# [18:03] <jdm> that looks ok to me
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# [18:04] <newn> jdm: not defining nsIChannel , look ok??
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# [18:04] <jdm> yeah, there's no defining necessary
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# [18:04] <smaug> tn: ping
# [18:05] <@khuey> !seen ddahl
# [18:05] <firebot> ddahl was last seen 1 day, 22 hours, 17 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying 'Ms2ger: yep. but I did not grock it' in #developers.
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# [18:05] <newn> lets see
# [18:05] <newn> bz is this ok : const nsIChannel = Components.interfaces.nsIChannel; ?
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# [18:05] <newn> bz: is this ok : const nsIChannel = Components.interfaces.nsIChannel; ?
# [18:06] <@khuey> lol
# [18:06] <@khuey> who made my comment earlier into a meme?
# [18:07] <@bz> newn: should be fine
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# [18:09] <jdm> khuey: ms2ger, probably
# [18:09] <bent> gps, figured out that crash
# [18:09] <bent> gps, will post to bug soon
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# [18:09] <bent> gps, thanks for your help!
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# [18:11] <@khuey> bent: woo!
# [18:11] <bent> khuey, reentrant code ftl
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# [18:12] <@khuey> mmm
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# [18:13] <AryehGregor> So if a function in JS is throwing an exception and I don't know why, what's the easiest way to tell where the exception is being thrown from?
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# [18:13] <AryehGregor> Changing the type of the exception is a bit of a headache, because I have to recompile every time . . . is it a good idea to use NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS, maybe, so it will print a backtrace?
# [18:13] * AryehGregor should maybe learn how to use gdb at some point :/
# [18:14] <Ms2ger> bjacob taught me, maybe he can help ;)
# [18:14] <@khuey> gdb is terrible
# [18:14] <@khuey> printf ftw
# [18:14] <jhammel> hah!
# [18:14] <AryehGregor> Oh, right, printf.
# [18:15] * AryehGregor is spoiled by easy-to-use in-browser JS debuggers
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# [18:17] <mcot> can anyone point me to which dir in the src builds the plugin-container
# [18:17] * kwierso wonders what flipping devtools.debugger.enabled to true would do...
# [18:18] <@khuey> mcot: ipc/app
# [18:18] <mcot> nice, thanks
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# [18:20] <newn> bz: not working , so i am using .location
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# [18:21] <jdm> newn: what does that mean?
# [18:21] <newn> Location = aWebProgress.DOMWindow.top.document.location;
# [18:22] <derf> jlebar: Ping.
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# [18:22] <jlebar> derf, ack
# [18:22] <derf> In re: http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html
# [18:22] <newn> jdm: but Location.indexOf i m not able to use !
# [18:22] <derf> hg strip --no-backup 'roots(outgoing())'
# [18:22] <@bz> newn: that seems broken
# [18:22] <derf> abort: unknown revision 'roots(outgoing())'!
# [18:22] <@bz> newn: to me
# [18:22] <derf> jlebar: What's up with that?
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# [18:22] <@bz> newn: it'll completely f-up subframe navigations
# [18:22] <newn> bz: you mean ff code is broken?
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# [18:22] <jlebar> derf, Perhaps they changed the refspec syntax. Let me see if it wfm still.
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# [18:23] <jlebar> derf, Does |hg outgoing| work?
# [18:23] <derf> Oh, this is with hg version 1.4.1, if that matters.
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# [18:23] <derf> And yes, it does.
# [18:23] <gavin> 1.4.1!? that's ancient!
# [18:23] <jlebar> derf, 1.4.1 is pretty old; I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't have refspec.
# [18:23] <@khuey> aren't they on 2 something now?
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# [18:24] <gavin> 2.0.2
# [18:24] <jlebar> gavin, 2.1.
# [18:24] <jlebar> gavin, But don't upgrade, because it breaks pushing to try.
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# [18:24] <jlebar> Actually, 2.1.1
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# [18:24] <derf> That is why I don't upgrade software.
# [18:24] <derf> Something always breaks.
# [18:24] <gavin> oh, right, my hg-stable clone is out of daate :)
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# [18:24] <gavin> jlebar: what version was that introduced in exactly?
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# [18:25] <jlebar> gavin, 2.1, I believe. Checking
# [18:25] <derf> Anyway, I guess I can upgrade to 2.0.
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# [18:25] <jlebar> gavin, Yes, 2.1 introduces hg phases.
# [18:25] <@khuey> derf: what version of firefox are you using?
# [18:25] <derf> khuey: I use Seamonkey.
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# [18:26] <newn> bz: now why i m not able to use Location.indexOf :(
# [18:26] <@khuey> derf: heh
# [18:26] <jlebar> gavin, FWIW, it's easy to work around: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#hg_phases
# [18:26] <derf> jlebar: Also, btw, it's --nobackup, not --no-backup, on that blog post.
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# [18:27] <jlebar> derf, Maybe they changed that in a later version of hg, too. It's --no-backup in newer versions.
# [18:27] <jlebar> er, in my version, anyway.
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# [18:27] <derf> Oh, indeed.
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# [18:27] <derf> Well, --nobackup still works.
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# [18:28] <derf> But --no-backup doesn't work in 1.4.1.
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# [18:28] <cpeterson> MacPort's recent update of openssl broke my hg. I had to downgrade from openssl@1.0.1_1 to 1.0.0g_0.
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# [18:28] <reuben> macports is baaaad
# [18:28] <reuben> use homebrew
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# [18:31] <Mook_as> newn: isn't it location.href.indexOf? (location isn't a string)
# [18:31] <gavin> jlebar: thanks; I'll just stuck with 2.0.2 for now
# [18:31] <bhearsum> i just logged into a website through http auth, how do i make firefox let me login to the same site with a new one?
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# [18:32] <reuben> about:permissions and clear your passwords for that site?
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# [18:32] <bhearsum> there's nothing in about:permissions
# [18:32] <gavin> bhearsum: cmd+shift+delete, select only "active logins" ?
# [18:32] <bhearsum> and deleting the saved password doesn't do it
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# [18:33] <bhearsum> ah!
# [18:33] <bhearsum> that does it, thank you gavin!
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# [18:34] <newn> hmm
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# [18:43] <AryehGregor> Editing code is a *nightmare*.
# [18:43] <AryehGregor> Arrrarrgh.
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# [18:43] <AryehGregor> Trivial changes are a massive headache.
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# [18:43] <@khuey> you should rewrite it!
# [18:43] <@khuey> preferably in js this time
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# [18:43] <AryehGregor> Rewriting it in JS would be awesome.
# [18:44] <@smaug> uh, writing in JS
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# [18:45] <@smaug> though, I guess that will happen at some point with servo
# [18:45] <Ms2ger> smaug, yeah, python would be much better!
# [18:46] <froydnj> Ms2ger--
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# [18:46] <Ms2ger> :'(
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# [18:46] <froydnj> otoh, I think Ms2ger just volunteered to maintain pyxpcom!
# [18:46] <jhammel> ++
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# [18:47] <mcot> what actually is the status of pyxpcom?
# [18:48] <gavin> it would revolutionize the world, if only we would listen
# [18:48] <mbrubeck> "maintained by a belligerent one-man community"?
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# [18:52] <Mook_as> mcot: doesn't build on m-c, but works okay-ish on some older branches.
# [18:53] <mcot> thought what I thought
# [18:54] <mcot> Tried using it but it needed something like 9.0
# [18:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d41503780635 - Kyle Huey - Bug 738334: Fix a worker timer race condition. r=bent
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# [18:58] <froydnj> khuey: why not return the result of ->Run there?
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# [18:59] <@khuey> froydnj: a) because if it theoretically failed we don't care
# [18:59] <@khuey> froydnj: and b) because it always returns NS_OK
# [18:59] <froydnj> heh, ok
# [19:00] <@khuey> froydnj: the only reason we call Run at all is to break a reference cycle
# [19:00] <@khuey> if it fails, we lose
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# [19:01] <@khuey> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633773#c43
# [19:01] <@khuey> u mad bro?
# [19:02] <WeirdAl> mcot: I think the ActiveState guys are still using pyxpcom
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# [19:02] <WeirdAl> they might be maintaining their own (they're certainly capable of it)
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# [19:03] <@bsmedberg> ToddW from activestate is the pyxpcom owner
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# [19:03] <@bsmedberg> it is being maintained
# [19:03] <jdm> khuey: I have the hypothesis about the correlation between roman numerals in names and strongly-worded bugzilla comments that I've always wanted to investigate
# [19:03] <Ms2ger> Oh, John A. Bilicki III
# [19:03] <Ms2ger> I've seen that name before
# [19:03] <@bsmedberg> a little slowly, but I think it was up to mozilla9 or so
# [19:03] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, wasn't that xforms? :)
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# [19:03] <gavin> khuey: nice
# [19:03] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: similar, yes ;-)
# [19:04] <mcot> with the move of some of the tools to python is there a renewed interest in using python for other things inside the browser maybe?
# [19:04] <@bsmedberg> oddly enough the xforms people are still writing patches
# [19:04] <mcot> Just curious
# [19:04] <@bsmedberg> mcot: not really, no
# [19:04] <Ms2ger> jdm, all I'm missing is it being signed "John A. Bilicki III, PhD"
# [19:04] <jdm> ha
# [19:04] <dholbert> dbaron, ping?
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# [19:06] <dholbert> bz, given an nsTableOuterFrame for an anonymous table that's been generated for table-fixup (around a <td>), do you know if we have a quick & easy way to get the nsIContent* for the <td>?
# [19:06] <dholbert> bz, e.g. GetContentThatSpawnedMe() or something?
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# [19:07] <dholbert> (GetContent() returns the parent, which I just noticed breaks my sorting-by-document-order in flexbox in cases with anonymous tables)
# [19:07] <dholbert> (the parent being the flexbox)
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# [19:10] <dholbert> bz, (I think I can basically use [[ while (frame && frame->IsAnonymous()) { frame = frame->GetFirstChild()}; return frame->GetContent(); ]] -- but it seemed like this could be something we have a utility function for already)
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# [19:11] <@bz> dholbert: I don't think we have a utility function for this
# [19:12] <@bz> dholbert: It's never been needed before, afaict
# [19:12] <@bz> dholbert: that said....
# [19:12] <dholbert> bz, ok -- I thought we might need it when sorting among kids with the same z-index or something like that
# [19:13] <@bz> dholbert: why do you need the child content?
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# [19:14] <@bz> dholbert: you need to sort the flexbox items or something?
# [19:14] <Ms2ger> rniwa, I was about to send you https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/W3C_CSS_Test_Mirroring
# [19:14] <dholbert> bz, yeah -- sort by document order, among kids with the same flex-order
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# [19:14] <@bz> dholbert: let me think about this for a sec
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# [19:15] <dholbert> bz, I might be able to just compare frame-positions in mFrames, actually
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# [19:15] <@bz> dholbert: yeah
# [19:15] <dholbert> bz, (I'm not modifying the order of that)
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# [19:15] <@bz> dholbert: the interactions with xbl will be especially fun
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# [19:15] <dholbert> oh goody
# [19:15] <@bz> dholbert: do we want DOM order or flattened tree order?
# [19:15] <@bz> dholbert: I would posit the latter
# [19:16] <dholbert> bz, I'm not sure what the distinction is
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# [19:16] <Ms2ger> The box tree doesn't exist!
# [19:17] <jviereck> is there a way to check if I have push access to try? Or should I just try to make a push to try with setting all the build and test options to none and see if it works?
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# [19:17] <@khuey> " Firefox only gained prominence because of webmasters such as myself"
# [19:17] <@khuey> "yet the people I see here are browser developers and individuals."
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# [19:18] <dholbert> jviereck, "ssh hg.mozilla.org" should give you a quick approximation
# [19:18] <froydnj> khuey has found his entertainment for the rest of the day
# [19:18] <@khuey> indeed
# [19:18] <dholbert> jviereck, "No interactive shells allowed here" = success
# [19:18] <kwierso> okay, time to cc myself to that bug
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# [19:19] <jviereck> dholbert: thanks! "Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)." < guess I don't have access anymore?
# [19:19] <dholbert> jviereck, do you have your .ssh/config set up correctly?
# [19:19] <jviereck> let me check
# [19:19] <dholbert> (is there a block for "hg.mozilla.org" with your ldap username)
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# [19:21] <@bz> dholbert: The difference is....
# [19:21] <@bz> dholbert: say I have <div><span></span><p></p></div>
# [19:21] <@bz> dholbert: and it has a binding attached that has:
# [19:21] <@bz> <content>
# [19:21] <@bz> <children includes="p"/>
# [19:22] <@bz> <children includes="span"/>
# [19:22] <@bz> <children/>
# [19:22] <@bz> </content>
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# [19:22] <@bz> then in the flattened tree (and in the frame list) the <p> would come before the <span>
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# [19:22] <dholbert> bz, gotcha
# [19:22] <AryehGregor> Why do browserscope tests have such incomprehensible error messages?
# [19:22] * AryehGregor cries
# [19:23] <dholbert> bz, yeah, flattened tree order strikes me as the sensible ordering to use, then
# [19:23] <AryehGregor> Editor code is incomprehensible, do editor *tests* really have to be incomprehensible too?
# [19:23] <@bz> and the spec
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# [19:23] <AryehGregor> Personally, I don't find the editing spec incomprehensible at all! :D
# [19:23] <jviereck> dholbert: ahh, using ssh now I get the message that my account was disabled. now I can take it form here - thanks :)
# [19:23] <AryehGregor> (it's complicated, but what are you going to do . . .)
# [19:23] <mcot> *needs to look at the editor code*
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# [19:23] <dholbert> jviereck, cool, good luck!
# [19:24] <WeirdAl> mcot: prepare for a maze of twisty passages
# [19:24] <dholbert> bz, spec says "Items with the same ordinal group are laid out in the order they appear in the source document"
# [19:24] <AryehGregor> bz, anything specifically you find incomprehensible about the editing spec?
# [19:24] <@bz> AryehGregor: hg rm for the web is always an option!
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# [19:24] <dholbert> bz, oh, your "and the spec" wasn't in response to me, nevermind :)
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# [19:24] <@bz> dholbert: yeah, once components happen the spec might need updating...
# [19:24] <Ms2ger> Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecs
# [19:24] <@bz> AryehGregor: the resulting behavior, for the most part. ;)
# [19:25] <@bz> dholbert: and yeah, the spec thing was not to you. ;)
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> Well, if you just start in the definition of execCommand() and follow all the links, you'll get there.
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> Maybe it'll take an hour or two, but . . .
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> Also, you probably won't be able to figure out what's supposed to happen in real-world test-cases without actually writing an implementation and checking that it happens to match what mine does.
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> I mean, we probably didn't both make the same mistake, right?
# [19:25] <Ms2ger> But that's less than for something as easy as "clicking a link"
# [19:25] <@smaug> AryehGregor: hey, btw, is the undomanager defined in the editing spec. I assume no
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> smaug, no, that's rniwa's spec.
# [19:25] <AryehGregor> 80 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/editor/libeditor/html/tests/browserscope/test_richtext.html | Browserscope richtext category=a test=formatblock param=0 - got 0, expected 1
# [19:26] <AryehGregor> I think it's related to this: 'formatblock' : {
# [19:26] <AryehGregor> opt_arg: 'h1',
# [19:26] <AryehGregor> wholeline: true},
# [19:26] <@bz> we're speccing rniwa now?
# [19:26] * AryehGregor shakes head in despair
# [19:26] * @smaug finds still some more open DOM4 tabs
# [19:26] <Ms2ger> smaug, do come again!
# [19:26] * @bz did not think ai research was far enough along to do that yet
# [19:26] <rniwa> bz: it's hosted at rniwa.com/editing/undomanager.html
# [19:27] <@smaug> I wish it wasn't so easy to open the same page many times
# [19:27] <rniwa> bz: i'm moving to w3c's hg repo soon (hopefully this weekend :) )
# [19:27] <rniwa> moving it*
# [19:27] <Ms2ger> Bah, W3C
# [19:27] * @bz wonders what http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9841995/how-to-change-default-request-type-in-firefox is after
# [19:27] <@bz> I mean... what do they expect to happen if they change that? ;)
# [19:28] * AryehGregor thinks the test failure means that he totally broke formatBlock, yay
# [19:28] <@bz> rniwa: yeah, it was a joke. I've seen that spec.
# [19:29] <Ms2ger> ... the spec was a joke?
# [19:29] <@khuey> bz: well if you could change GET to DELETE you could go on a rampage across the web
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# [19:29] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i think bz referred "we're speccing member:rniwa now?"
# [19:29] <rniwa> referred to*
# [19:29] <kwierso> rm -rf THEWEB
# [19:29] <jhammel> khuey: yeah, cuz so many sites respect DELETE without auth ;)
# [19:29] <rniwa> :( what's up with my proposition dropping today
# [19:30] * jhammel still wants wget http://*/
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> And where did that "member:" come from?
# [19:30] <Jesse> mccr8: are you in the office today? i might have a repro for my purple-buffer assertion
# [19:30] <rniwa> rather dropping propositions*
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# [19:30] <rniwa> Ms2ger: that's what my IRC client doing
# [19:30] <@bz> khuey: assuming web servers support DELETE!
# [19:30] <mccr8> Jesse: I am
# [19:30] <rniwa> Ms2ger: not my fault :P
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> rniwa, alright, DOM4 isn't my fault either :)
# [19:30] <@bz> sweet
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# [19:31] <@bz> the web is not our fault
# [19:31] <@bz> just our responsibility
# [19:31] <@khuey> I like how on chromium-dev they have to state that their links don't go to pr0n now
# [19:31] <@bz> moving on.....
# [19:31] <rniwa> Ms2ger: LOL
# [19:31] <Jesse> khuey: oh?
# [19:31] <@khuey> Jesse: http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/9af1c0716ef032b9#
# [19:31] <mccr8> Jesse: I tried inspecting the code yesterday, but I didn't see anything obvious that could be causing the problems.
# [19:32] <AryehGregor> Well, Gecko has a module named libpr0n, right?
# [19:32] <Jesse> khuey: heh, he could have said "(buildbot screenshot)"
# [19:32] <@bz> not anymore
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> Not anymore :(
# [19:32] <mccr8> "The tree seems pretty messed up right now. Is there a sheriff on duty?"
# [19:32] <@bz> it got renamed
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> mccr8, you are now!
# [19:33] <mccr8> Ms2ger: that was from khuey's link. It seems Chrome has not reached our enlightened state of anarchy.
# [19:33] <@khuey> indeed
# [19:33] <@khuey> it's ok, Opera was probably there first
# [19:33] <mccr8> a lot of those could be quotes about firefox. "sigh, xp tests are cycling too slowly. "
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# [19:34] <Ms2ger> khuey, well, mike5w3c worked there, so they must be used to anarchy
# [19:34] <jaws> can the same patch be pushed to inbound and central without causing issues when merging from inbound -> central?
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> jaws, it's fine, as long as the patches are identical
# [19:35] <jaws> thanks
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# [19:37] <gavin> jaws: why would you want to do that, ooc?
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# [19:37] <jaws> gavin: i pushed my backout patches to inbound because my original patches broke b2g so i want to fix their build sooner than having to wait for a merge
# [19:38] <@smaug> did we break networking somehow in the latest nightly ?
# [19:38] * @smaug got some complaints
# [19:38] <kwierso> smaug: in what way?
# [19:38] <gavin> jaws: ah, you wanted to fix the bustage on both?
# [19:39] <@bz> maybe we're doing all our fetches with DELETE now?
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [19:39] <kwierso> I can surf the web just fine
# [19:39] <jaws> gavin: well i think i should have just done the backout on central in the first place
# [19:39] <@khuey> bz++
# [19:39] <@smaug> kwierso: like, Nightly doesn't connect to any websit
# [19:39] <@smaug> e
# [19:39] <jaws> gavin: but i also worry about breaking central if i do something wrong with mercurial
# [19:39] <kwierso> smaug: works for me
# [19:40] <@bz> actually, I think we should do them with either LOOKFOR or PRETTYPLEASE
# [19:40] <kwierso> smaug: maybe something about the update confused their firewalls or something?
# [19:40] <@smaug> OT, http://www.asciiflow.com/ is great.
# [19:40] <@smaug> kwierso: I doubt. linux and all...
# [19:40] <@smaug> I'll ask
# [19:40] <@bz> "GET" is just so ... brusque
# [19:41] <kwierso> "ACQUIRE"
# [19:41] <reuben> smaug, sometimes (rarely) I get to a state where any networking action just fails, normally after notebook wake or connection change (wifi -> wired)
# [19:41] <reuben> (really rarely)
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# [19:41] <@smaug> reuben: well I did ask reload Nightly, but that didn't help
# [19:42] <@smaug> reuben: have you filed a bug?
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# [19:42] <@smaug> there has been some major changes to networking lately
# [19:42] <reuben> smaug, nope, I have no idea how to reproduce it
# [19:43] <reuben> smaug, what is "lately"?
# [19:43] <bnicholson> does anyone know what this error means? checking whether linker creates PT_GNU_RELRO segments... configure: error: couldn't compile a simple C file
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# [19:43] <@smaug> reuben: late last year, early this year
# [19:43] <@dbaron> dholbert, pong
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# [19:44] <reuben> smaug, hm, I'm pretty sure I saw this bug before that, like 6 months ago, but it could be related
# [19:44] <@bz> the problem with building with clang is that it fails....
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# [19:44] <AryehGregor> bnicholson, I always get that when I try to have ccache-related stuff in my .mozconfig
# [19:44] <AryehGregor> .
# [19:44] <froydnj> bnicholson: depends what config.log says
# [19:44] <@smaug> reuben: changes caused problems like Bug 710176
# [19:44] <dholbert> dbaron, un-ping, sorry (bz answered my question)
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# [19:45] <AryehGregor> (ccache seems to work without any line in my .mozconfig for it; I don't ask questions)
# [19:45] * reuben uses --with-ccache just to be sure
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# [19:46] <cpeterson> bnicholson, I've seen similar errors with bad configure settings cached in OBJDIR. Try clobbering OBJDIR/config*
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# [19:47] <dholbert> AryehGregor, (I assume you've got ccache auto-symlinked as gcc in your /usr/bin/ )?
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# [19:47] <dholbert> (if so, that's why it magically works for you (fedora?). The rest of us, on Ubuntu & other distros, have to use the mozconfig line)
# [19:47] <bnicholson> cpeterson: i just deleted my entire objdir, still getting the error
# [19:47] <AryehGregor> dholbert, seems not. I'm on Ubuntu, FWIW.
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# [19:48] <AryehGregor> I probably changed something like three years ago and forgot about it.
# [19:48] <@bz> is there an existing bug on gfx not building with clang?
# [19:48] <bnicholson> from config.log: /home/brian/android-ndk-r6/toolchains/arm-linux-androideabi-4.4.3/prebuilt/linux-x86/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-androideabi/4.4.3/../../../../arm-linux-androideabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lstlport_static
# [19:48] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/gfx/gl/GLContext.cpp:1188:45: error: taking the address of a temporary object of type 'already_AddRefed<mozilla::gl::TextureImage>' [-Waddress-of-temporary]
# [19:48] <@bz> mImages.ReplaceElementAt(i, &teximg.forget());
# [19:48] <@bz> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
# [19:48] <dholbert> AryehGregor, oh, interesting. (you must have export CXX=ccache g++ then?)
# [19:48] <@smaug> really?
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# [19:48] <@smaug> that must be something really new
# [19:48] <AryehGregor> dholbert, yes, that looks like it.
# [19:48] <froydnj> glandium: ^ bnicholson's erroro
# [19:48] <AryehGregor> Sounds familiar.
# [19:49] <dholbert> AryehGregor, cool. If you use the mozconfig line, you don't need any of that. (neither is significantly easier than the other though)
# [19:49] <@bz> benoit: ping
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# [19:49] <@bz> bgirard: ping
# [19:50] <@bz> cwiiis: ping
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# [19:50] <Cwiiis> bz, pong
# [19:50] <@bz> cwiiis: it's your patch for bug 737434
# [19:50] <@bz> cwiiis: that's not compiling with clang
# [19:50] <@bz> mImages.ReplaceElementAt(i, &teximg.forget());
# [19:50] <Ms2ger> bz, jmaher also has build issues with that
# [19:50] <@bz> error: taking the address of a temporary object of type 'already_AddRefed<mozilla::gl::TextureImage>' [-Waddress-of-temporary]
# [19:51] <Cwiiis> bz, ugh :/ I had to add that & because for whatever reason, nsTArray->ReplaceElementAt differs from InsertElementAt in its treatment of parameters
# [19:51] <reuben> someone reported the same problem with GCC and -fpermissive earlier
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# [19:51] <@khuey> Cwiiis: didn't I tell you how to fix that yesterday?
# [19:51] <Cwiiis> khuey, you said to add the &...?
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# [19:52] <@khuey> Cwiiis: in the nsTArray code!
# [19:52] <jmaher> oh, somebody can help me fix my build!
# [19:52] <@khuey> not in the consumer
# [19:52] <Cwiiis> khuey, oh, ok... Doesn't that function get used elsewhere though? Looking it up in mxr turns up hits
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# [19:53] <@khuey> Cwiiis: I don't think anything else uses ReplaceElementAt on nsTArray
# [19:53] <romaxa> ajuma: ping
# [19:53] <@khuey> because of that whole totally broken thing
# [19:53] <ajuma> romaxa: pong
# [19:53] <@khuey> there are uses of ReplaceElementAt on other things though
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# [19:53] <Cwiiis> khuey, ah, ok - I'll file a bug and a patch then
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# [19:54] <romaxa> ajuma: about ::Open crash, is that reproducible with HW acceleration on android?
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# [19:54] <kwierso> smaug: does this sound like what was reported to you? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2447873
# [19:54] <ajuma> romaxa: yes, i've been running into it. i think i know what's going on though :)
# [19:55] <@smaug> kwierso: yes
# [19:55] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: is that Android red on your push something I should hold off pushing on top of?
# [19:55] <kwierso> smaug: huh
# [19:55] <ajuma> romaxa: sometimes we get two PaintedThebesLayers in a single transaction . the result (after the second swap) is that the front and back buffers are the same.
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# [19:56] <ajuma> romaxa: so then both sides try to delete the same surface
# [19:56] <ajuma> romaxa: or, rather, content deletes the back buffer, and then the other side tries to open its front buffer, which is deleted
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# [19:56] <tn> smaug, pong
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# [19:56] <romaxa> ajuma: I guess I was throwing that assumtion somewhere..
# [19:57] <sourabh912> jaws:hi
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# [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eb9dfe4659a7 - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 5f79a3dd45ff (bug 730318) r=bustage
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# [19:58] <bnicholson> glandium: looks like cset 4934f8f21328 is giving me those bulid errors
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/418c8f45151b - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset c120dd831b3f (bug 734323) r=bustage
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6c283714c5a9 - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 62e3e0fc06c9 (bug 730318) r=bustage
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e04dcc41a324 - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 29a7f9d3d4c4 (bug 730318) r=bustage
# [19:58] <bholley> is anyone else getting link errors with DeviceMotionChanged?
# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6470fe2fc4de - Jared Wein - Backed out changeset 1801abb2839a (bug 730318) r=bustage
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# [19:59] <Cwiiis> bz, there's no existing bug is there? Care to file it? (I'll add a patch)
# [20:00] <jimm> does anybone know in which repo the webrt work is being done?
# [20:00] <jaws> sourabh912: hey
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Alder?
# [20:00] <jimm> nm
# [20:00] <jaws> sourabh912: i got your email about the wifi api. i haven't had a chance to reply yet though. maybe later today or sometime this weekend
# [20:00] <Callek> jimm: definitely alder https://wiki.mozilla.org/DisposableProjectBranches
# [20:01] <jimm> Callek: thx
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# [20:01] <sourabh912> jaws:http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=[inFullscreen]&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central ....in this url there are two browser.css files ...........I want to know how are they different from each other?
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# [20:02] <@bz> Cwiiis: ok, filing
# [20:03] <jaws> sourabh912: the /content/ one is for all platforms, and the /winstripe/ one has windows specific css
# [20:04] <@bz> cwiiis: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738740
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# [20:05] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: looking
# [20:05] <Cwiiis> bz, thanks, will attach a patch once it builds - are you suitable to review?
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# [20:06] <AryehGregor> I hate editing. :(
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# [20:07] <Ms2ger> We all do
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# [20:07] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I'll back out
# [20:08] <@dbaron> AryehGregor, editing specs, I presume?
# [20:08] <sourabh912> jaws:in the mozilla/ browser/ themes/ their is also a folder of pinestripe ........Is it for some other OS?
# [20:08] <AryehGregor> dbaron, no, Gecko editing code.
# [20:08] <Ms2ger> dbaron, worse, our code
# [20:08] <AryehGregor> My editing spec isn't *that* bad.
# [20:08] <@ehsan> hehe
# [20:08] <Ms2ger> sourabh912, pinstripe is Linux
# [20:08] <AryehGregor> . . . I mean, I don't think it is.
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# [20:08] <@smaug> tn: nm. bz explained how lazy frameconstruction works
# [20:08] <@dbaron> AryehGregor, ah, ok, makes sense now :-)
# [20:08] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: done
# [20:08] <Ms2ger> smaug, don't you need to complain about specs? :)
# [20:09] <@smaug> which spec...
# [20:09] <sourabh912> Ms2ger:ok
# [20:09] <Ms2ger> smaug, Aryeh's
# [20:09] * Mook_as thought pinstripe was mac, winstripe windows, gnomestripe linux?
# [20:09] <@smaug> Ms2ger: oh, that one. I haven't even looked at it yet, so you'll have to wait for complains
# [20:09] <Ms2ger> Oh, yes
# [20:09] <Ms2ger> sourabh912, what Mook_as said
# [20:10] <Mook_as> from... OSX 10.1 or .2 or something, where it was all pinstripe-y
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> (Linux falls back to winstripe if there's no gnomestripe, IIRC)
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# [20:12] <bnicholson> glandium: switching from the r6->r5c ndk fixed the build errors i was having above
# [20:12] <Ms2ger> sicking, please send a rescue team for froydnj
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# [20:13] <sourabh912> Ms2ger:I think Mook_as is right.....
# [20:13] <Ms2ger> Yeah, he is
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# [20:15] <sourabh912> jaws:So in the project full screen mode has to be implemented for both all platforms as well as windows?
# [20:15] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, there's a question for you in my huge comment in the testharness.js bug, btw
# [20:15] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, link?
# [20:16] <Ms2ger> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647323
# [20:16] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so I can repro the crash with that dll! and visual studio also crashes!
# [20:16] <@bsmedberg> lovely
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# [20:17] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, I don't understand the question.
# [20:17] <Mano> For a real array, do array comprehensions run in arbitrary order?
# [20:17] <Ms2ger> Mano, I sure hope not
# [20:17] <AryehGregor> The TODO there isn't really a bug, just a convenience thing.
# [20:17] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, jhammel wants a bug on file for that TODO comment, I think
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# [20:17] <Mano> Ms2ger: well, in theory, for in, and for each do.
# [20:17] <Ms2ger> He. He. He.
# [20:18] <Mano> not sure about forEach
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> forEach is in order
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# [20:19] <WeirdAl> bsmedberg: question on xpcshell -a: it's not documented, so I'm wondering what the implications might be for loading JS-based components that way.
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# [20:19] <WeirdAl> bah, that didn't come out right :)
# [20:20] <WeirdAl> does -a mean I can point to a directory with an application.ini, as XULRunner does?
# [20:20] <Mano> Ms2ger: var a = {}; a[2]=0; a[1] = 3; var f = [i for (i in a)]; differs from var a = []; a[2]=0; a[1] = 3; var f = [i for (i in a)];, so that's probably ok.
# [20:20] <Mano> i guess that's also right for for..in, etc, but the documentation does not reflect that.
# [20:21] <edmorley> mak++
# [20:21] <Mark_Capella> eeejay: got a few minutes to to feedback/review Bug 734982 - Map ARIA role "form" ?
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# [20:22] <eeejay> Mark_Capella, oh sorry. i thought i looked at it. somehow missed it
# [20:23] <Mark_Capella> np :)
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# [20:23] <Mark_Capella> s/b easy .... hopes so
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# [20:27] <eeejay> Mark_Capella, i am out the door for an hour, i'll give it a closer look when i get back. yeah, looks simple
# [20:27] <Mark_Capella> k thx
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# [20:28] <glandium> bnicholson: weird, because i tested with r5c, r6b and r7b
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# [20:28] <WeirdAl> glandium: ah, you can answer my question too (see about fifteen lines up)
# [20:29] <glandium> WeirdAl: -app does
# [20:29] <WeirdAl> hm, I see no mention of that option in xpcshell.cpp
# [20:29] <glandium> WeirdAl: ah, xpcshell, yes, -a
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# [20:30] <glandium> WeirdAl: i was thinking firefox executable
# [20:30] <WeirdAl> right
# [20:30] <glandium> bnicholson: if you can reproduce again, please file a bug, assign it to me, and put a bit more context from the log
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# [20:31] <glandium> WeirdAl: xpcshell's -a takes a directory, not an application.ini
# [20:31] <glandium> (iirc)
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# [20:32] <bnicholson> glandium: yeah i can, just switching from r5c->r6 in my mozconfig breaks it
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# [20:35] <WeirdAl> glandium: yeah, I figured that much... but said directory is the directory holding application.ini as a direct child
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# [20:36] <WeirdAl> glandium: so my thinking is to use that for loading a dummy app to do command-line Jasmine testing
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# [20:37] <glandium> WeirdAl: depends what you expect from your "app".
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# [20:37] <glandium> WeirdAl: xpcshell is pretty far from an app
# [20:37] <WeirdAl> hehe, I don't expect much at all
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# [20:38] <mbrubeck> !seen mstange
# [20:38] <bnicholson> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738753
# [20:38] <firebot> mstange was last seen 30 weeks, 1 day, 30 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying 'Swatinem: made it ;)' in #developers.
# [20:38] <WeirdAl> glandium: really, I'm just trying to avoid loading a whole browser to run Jasmine tests
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# [20:39] <WeirdAl> and coincidentally, xpcshell is packaged with the XULRunner SDK (which is convenient for my long term plans)
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# [20:40] <glandium> bnicholson: what is there in /home/brian/android-ndk-r6/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/libs/armeabi-v7a/ ?
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# [20:41] <bnicholson> glandium: /home/brian/android-ndk-r6/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/libs/ doesn't exist
# [20:42] <bnicholson> that is, libs/ doesnt exist in stlport/
# [20:42] <glandium> bnicholson: so, where is libstlport_static.a under /home/brian/android-ndk-r6/ ?
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# [20:44] <bnicholson> brian@brian-w520:~/android-ndk-r6$ find . -name libstlport_static.a
# [20:44] <bnicholson> ./tmp/ndk-digit/build/install/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/libs/armeabi/libstlport_static.a
# [20:44] <bnicholson> ./tmp/ndk-digit/build/install/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/libs/x86/libstlport_static.a
# [20:44] <bnicholson> ./tmp/ndk-digit/build/install/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/libs/armeabi-v7a/libstlport_static.a
# [20:44] <bnicholson> glandium: ^
# [20:44] <biesi> I want to upvote http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6324 several times
# [20:44] <biesi> someone please change qdb to let me do that, kthx
# [20:45] <evilpie> i made good experiences with Waldo's reviews before so i often stick to him
# [20:45] <Ms2ger> biesi, I'd do it for you, but I don't upvote my own quotes :)
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# [20:47] <glandium> bnicholson: do you have /home/brian/android-ndk-r6/sources/cxx-stl/stlport/src/iostream.cpp?
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# [20:47] <Ms2ger> ehsan, for the sheriff app, data:text/html,philor! would warn, because it lacks a charset
# [20:47] <biesi> Ms2ger, on that note, the same goes for http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6314
# [20:47] <bnicholson> glandium: yes
# [20:47] <Ms2ger> biesi, same issue, sorry :)
# [20:47] <glandium> bnicholson: ok, thanks
# [20:48] <glandium> bnicholson: patch coming
# [20:48] <bnicholson> nice :)
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# [20:53] <glandium> bnicholson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=608826
# [20:53] <bnicholson> glandium: great, thanks
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# [20:54] <glandium> bnicholson: it should work, better if you check ;)
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# [20:56] <bnicholson> glandium: hrm, nope...same error
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# [20:58] <bnicholson> glandium: oh, i was manually running ./configure, guess i shouldnt do that
# [20:59] <glandium> bnicholson: you didn't run autoconf, did you?
# [20:59] <bnicholson> glandium: /home/brian/mozilla/inbound/configure: 6617: Syntax error: "elif" unexpected (expecting "fi")
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# [20:59] <bnicholson> no
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# [21:01] <glandium> bnicholson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=608831
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# [21:02] <Mark_Capella> yum ... grue stew
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# [21:02] <philor> is there anybody left who hasn't yet filed a bug on test_fullscreen-api.html? I wouldn't want to take away someone's chance...
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# [21:05] <bnicholson> glandium: ok, looks like its working
# [21:05] <glandium> bnicholson: good
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# [21:12] <philor> and, there's a dual lesson here: if you want to be able to ignore your test failures, land your new thing without a component, but unless you want your tests to be hated, don't run them all off a single fiename
# [21:13] <@bz> is it better for tests to be loved or feared
# [21:13] <@bz> ?
# [21:13] <@bz> how does this differ from module owners?
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# [21:18] <biesi> bz, better to be feared. love fades over time
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# [21:21] <jlebar> Hold on...are we really going to show the third-party add-on installation screen for PDF.js?
# [21:21] <jlebar> We're not really going to do this, right?
# [21:21] <kwierso> jlebar: that's a bug
# [21:21] <mak> jlebar: no, we are not going to do this
# [21:21] <jlebar> Oh thank goodness.
# [21:22] <mak> though would be interesting to telemetry how many trust mozilla as a third party :)
# [21:22] * jlebar wonders if anybody has checked pdf.js for leaks.
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# [21:23] <Ms2ger> jlebar, smaug found a lot of them, but they weren't actually in pdf.js
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# [21:23] <jlebar> Ms2ger, In the add-on SDK?
# [21:23] <Mossop> It doesn't use the add-on SDK
# [21:23] <Ms2ger> No, in print preview
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# [21:25] <kwierso> jlebar: looks like bug 738674
# [21:26] <jlebar> kwierso, As long as it's not intentional. :)
# [21:26] <Mook_as> jlebar: it's on amo, so that probably involved something?
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# [21:26] <Mook_as> (re: leaks, anyway)
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# [21:30] <jlebar> Mook_as, Oh, indeed. Although it's a somewhat cursory check.
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# [21:32] <kwierso> jlebar: except for the new AMO review policies where addons are getting downgraded to preliminary review status if a leak is detected
# [21:32] <Mook_as> for some reason lots of downstream apps do that :p
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# [21:32] <jlebar> kwierso, Yeah, that's providing some movement, I guess.
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# [21:50] <Waldo> Ms2ger, isn't that my job?
# [21:51] <cpearce> diogogmt: any reason why we Bug 735031 isn't ready to land (I just r+'d it)?
# [21:51] <Ms2ger> Waldo, what, trolling?
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# [21:51] <Waldo> Ms2ger: hiding
# [21:51] <Ms2ger> Well played, sir
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# [21:52] <cpearce> diogogmt: and have you run that new test on TryServer?
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# [21:53] <diogogmt> cpearce: not yet, should I run there first?
# [21:53] <cpearce> diogogmt: it's a very good idea. you never know whether what passes on your machine will pass on the tinderboxen
# [21:54] <cpearce> diogogmt: do you have commit access yet?
# [21:54] <diogogmt> I've applied for level1 access, I'm not sure if it's approved yet
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# [21:55] <cpearce> diogogmt: ok, I'll push it to try for you, and if it looks like it's going to pass, I'll push it to inbound this afternoon.
# [21:56] <diogogmt> k, thanks cpearce
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# [22:00] <RyanVM> wow
# [22:00] <RyanVM> so a changeset that landed 9ish hours ago and has been causing winxp-debug moth hangs since hasn't been backed out yet....
# [22:00] <Ms2ger> Evening
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# [22:02] <@khuey> RyanVM: well philor isn't here to tell us about the hangs ...
# [22:02] <RyanVM> he's the only one looking at inbound all day?
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# [22:05] <RyanVM> I'm backing out jkew's entire push unless someone can tell me which of those 5 changesets is the likely culpirt
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# [22:07] <Ms2ger> RyanVM++
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# [22:21] <philor> and since nobody looks and nobody stars, if i get done with aurora and beta and esr10 and still have lunch hour left, I'll be starring inbound starting at 3pm yesterday, that being where the unstarredness starts
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# [22:21] <biesi> philor, are we paying you yet for all your starring?
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# [22:21] <mbrubeck> We pay him in test failures.
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# [22:22] <philor> \o/
# [22:22] <biesi> sounds fair
# [22:22] * philor takes a few hundred to the bank
# [22:22] <Ms2ger> Nah, mostly infra failures and hangs
# [22:22] * kwierso isn't sure "watch tbpl all day, have some money" is a promotion...
# [22:22] <Ms2ger> Ask edmorley :)
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# [22:23] <biesi> kwierso, compared tto "watch tbpl all day, have no money"?
# [22:23] <Ms2ger> Compared to "watch tbpl all day, surprise your boss the one day you *don't* do any starring"
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# [22:24] <biesi> let's just hope philor never goes on vacation
# [22:24] <kwierso> or sleeps
# [22:24] <Ms2ger> Or gets kids
# [22:24] <mbrubeck> There was a week last summer when philor and I were both on vacation... (this was before the edmorley era, I believe...)
# [22:24] <mbrubeck> It wasn't pretty.
# [22:24] <biesi> haha
# [22:25] <biesi> it was very colorful, I'm sure
# [22:25] * kwierso prepares a new mozillameme... "Philor's on vacation; tree's closed"
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# [22:25] <Ms2ger> kwierso, that's not a meme, that's the truth :/
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# [22:26] <biesi> I should go back to debugging my code
# [22:26] <biesi> apparently someone broke it
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# [22:27] <edmorley> mbrubeck: ha I bet :-)
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# [22:27] * edmorley has finally caught up from being away and will be doing more merges and starring this coming week
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# [22:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley, you were away? :)
# [22:28] <kwierso> I think philor's only pretending to care about the jetpack tree in an effort to subtly convince me to start watching m-c's tbpl also
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# [22:28] <Ms2ger> I thought Mozilla could do job interviews over vidyo?
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# [22:29] <gavin> "can"
# [22:29] <jhermans> try sending it as a h264 stream :-)
# [22:29] <RyanVM> philor: I'm doing inbound now
# [22:29] <RyanVM> philor: already did m-c
# [22:29] <gavin> doesn't mean it always happens that way; in-person is still preferred
# [22:29] <mbrubeck> That's what we do when someone comes in for an interview in SF and everyone is working from home.
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# [22:29] <philor> RyanVM: thank you!
# [22:29] <mbrubeck> The lunch part is a little awkward. :)
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# [22:29] * gavin points candidate at snack shelf over vidyo
# [22:30] <RyanVM> philor: yessir
# [22:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: it'd probably hang right before the part where they give you an offer, in true vidyo style
# [22:30] <RyanVM> i'm more annoyed about a test being broken all day with no backout
# [22:30] * mbrubeck goes to file this 736924-1.html assertion
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> edmorley, :)
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# [22:30] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: great, I need to star one with it! :)
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I've found vidyo to work quite well, as long as you keep moving your cursor over the window
# [22:30] <edmorley> lol
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> (Seriously)
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# [22:31] <edmorley> it taxes my C2D/ 2GB ram a fair bit, I kill the background process off inbetween calls since the leaks seem to persist
# [22:31] <edmorley> bring on webrtc
# [22:32] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: seriously, let me know when you've got a bug #
# [22:32] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: bug 738803, and I just starred the two I saw (on inbound and m-c)
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# [22:34] <mbrubeck> We need to just hide robocop or something. :(
# [22:35] <@bz> anyone here an op in #jsapi?
# [22:35] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: I got a different on inbound :)
# [22:36] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: if you're feeling motivated, you can file security/ssl/stricttransportsecurity/test_stricttransportsecurity.html | Test timed out. too :)
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# [22:37] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Sure... can you paste a link to a push where that shows up?
# [22:37] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10323997&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [22:37] <mbrubeck> thanks
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# [22:38] <RyanVM> and another that's showing up on inbound in a few places - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10320105&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [22:39] <Ms2ger> bz, magic word is irc-ops without the -
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# [22:41] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: filed bug 738808 for test_stricttransportsecurity.html
# [22:41] <RyanVM> thx
# [22:41] <jgilbert_> 700ms GC and 1000ms CC times are the best
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# [22:42] <jlebar> Can I reference the width of some other element in my -moz-calc() expression?
# [22:42] <Ms2ger> Not yet
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# [22:43] <jlebar> Ms2ger, :-/
# [22:43] * jlebar hates web layout
# [22:44] * Ms2ger hates the web
# [22:44] * dholbert hates
# [22:44] <kwierso> ^
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# [22:45] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: and bug 738812 for browser_bug435325.js
# [22:45] <RyanVM> thanks!
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# [22:52] <@khuey> mbrubeck: why did you file 738808 in DOM?
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# [22:53] <mbrubeck> khuey: Because https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495115 was filed in DOM.
# [22:53] <mbrubeck> (the bug which added that test)
# [22:53] <mkelly> Is there anywhere I can find a list of possible OS_VERSION strings?
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# [22:53] <@khuey> mbrubeck: ah, fun
# [22:53] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: crap, I have unsaved changes to those robocop bugs
# [22:54] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Oops, mid-air collision fun coming up...
# [22:54] <RyanVM> yeah
# [22:55] <@bz> ld: duplicate symbol smsGetCalibration(sms_calibration*) in ../../hal/smslib.o and ../../dom/system/cocoa/smslib.o
# [22:55] <@bz> Is that expected?
# [22:55] <mbrubeck> bz: clobber
# [22:55] <mbrubeck> you can probably just clobber hal and/or dom
# [22:55] <@bz> hmm
# [22:55] * @bz tries
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# [22:56] <@bz> mbrubeck: clobbering hal seems to help not....
# [22:56] <mbrubeck> fallout from bug 735330
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# [22:56] <WG9s> I see aliitle siloetto of a man.
# [22:57] <kwierso> something something will you do the fandango
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# [22:57] <RyanVM> inbound's geting closer...
# [22:58] <WG9s> just me trying to relate the music i am listening to to the conversation here.
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# [22:59] <jhammel> i tried that with NIN once....let's just say that i was no longer required to go to parent-teacher conferences
# [22:59] <@bz> mbrubeck: clobbering both hal and dom is not enough....
# [23:00] <RyanVM> philor: mbrubeck: Seen this before? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10324343&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [23:00] <mbrubeck> bz: Okay, probably needs a full clobber then. (Clobbering fixed the same build error on inbound and m-c.)
# [23:00] * WG9s would think clobbering hal is some kind of 2001 reference.
# [23:01] <WG9s> but then he is just old.
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# [23:02] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: looks similar to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701935
# [23:02] <jhammel> i can't allow you to do that, WG9s
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# [23:04] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: looks like a different stack?
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# [23:05] <WG9s> jhammel: so I don't understand, are you are not allowing me to call myself old?
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# [23:06] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Yeah, I don't really know how to interpret those symbol-less stacks
# [23:07] <kwierso> s/WG9s/Dave/
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# [23:07] <jhammel> :sigh: paraphrasing HAL
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# [23:09] * WG9s still does not understand
# [23:10] <WG9s> I want to ride my bicycle.
# [23:10] <dholbert> bz, ping?
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# [23:10] <Mook_as> daaiii-sy daaaiii-sy give me your answer do...
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# [23:12] <jhammel> WG9s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qnd-hdmgfk
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# [23:12] <dholbert> bz, un-ping (posting bug comment instead)
# [23:13] <WG9s> jhammel: so you want me to post the bicycle race vidoe?
# [23:13] <jhammel> heh
# [23:13] <WG9s> I am sure someone will decide it is inappropriate.
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# [23:14] <mbrubeck> in b4 code of conduct
# [23:15] <jhammel> man, inline autocomplete is the new awesome
# [23:15] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, didn't you hear? You can only discuss work-related stuff on i.m.o
# [23:15] <Ms2ger> Or was that p.m.o...
# [23:16] <jhammel> i thought that was #developers
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# [23:18] <WG9s> 200 degrees that's why they call me Mr. Farneheight!
# [23:18] <jhammel> not with that spelling they don't
# [23:18] <WG9s> Travelling at the speed of light~!
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# [23:19] <jhammel> matter is just very slow light...if you think about it
# [23:19] <WG9s> well my typing is not the best
# [23:19] <jhammel> also, i would have used ~> as the photon symbol instead of just ~ :)
# [23:20] <WG9s> 200 degrees is not that high Fahrenheit actually.
# [23:20] <jhammel> 200eV isn't even that hot
# [23:20] <jhammel> ask philikon
# [23:20] <WG9s> but that is how the song goes. and is one of my favorite songs.
# [23:21] * jhammel isn't sure if he can condone a song that uses Imperial units :P
# [23:21] <WG9s> actuaylly that is one of my favorite albums
# [23:21] <jhammel> also, i don't know that song
# [23:22] <WG9s> jhammel: well feddy is dead so I am not sure he can re-record it with metric units for you.
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# [23:22] <jhammel> i dunno, Kurt Cobain did some of his best albums after he was dead ;)
# [23:22] <jhammel> too soon?
# [23:22] <AryehGregor> ehsan, my new patch for bug 738366 triggers a second assertion: ###!!! ASSERTION: null node passed to GetBlockNodeParent(): 'Not Reached', file ../../../../editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditor.cpp, line 931
# [23:23] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: that's bad...
# [23:23] <AryehGregor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10322255&tree=Try&full=1#error0
# [23:23] <AryehGregor> (in addition to the old assertion)
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# [23:23] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: can you repro locally?
# [23:23] * AryehGregor tries
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# [23:24] <WG9s> jhammel: well I think Queen is still dong new recordings so perhaps you can get them to do a metric version of "Don't stop me now"
# [23:24] <jhammel> :)
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# [23:25] <AryehGregor> This produces a pass: TEST_PATH=editor/libeditor/base/crashtests/ make -C objdir-ff-release/ crashtest
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# [23:26] <AryehGregor> But it could be it's only testing for crashes, maybe? It doesn't print any assertions for anything.
# [23:26] <AryehGregor> Do I have to compile specially to test for assertions?
# [23:26] <dholbert> AryehGregor, --enable-debug
# [23:26] <WG9s> It is now time for me to try to sing along with Somebody to love. always funny.
# [23:26] <dholbert> AryehGregor, in your mozconfig
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# [23:26] <dholbert> that's all you need for assertions to be tested & fire
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# [23:26] <AryehGregor> What's the full line I should add? Like: ac_add_options --enable-debug
# [23:26] <AryehGregor> Or something like that?
# [23:27] <AryehGregor> Also, is it a good idea in general to have this enabled, or what?
# [23:27] <dholbert> AryehGregor, "ac_add_options --enable-debug --disable-optimize" is customary
# [23:27] <@khuey> you probable want ac_add_options --disable-optimize too
# [23:27] <dholbert> AryehGregor, (all on one line)
# [23:27] <AryehGregor> Is that better for development? Like, does it slow down compiles?
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# [23:27] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: yeah without that we don't trigger assertions at all
# [23:27] * AryehGregor doesn't have time to do a full recompile now, has to run
# [23:27] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: I'm fairly confident that you'll hit that locally
# [23:27] <dholbert> AryehGregor, same-ish compile time, I think
# [23:28] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [23:28] <@ehsan> and then you should fix the caller
# [23:28] <AryehGregor> Okay.
# [23:28] <dholbert> AryehGregor, and yeah, enable-debug/disable-optimize is indeed recommended for local development builds
# [23:28] <dholbert> that's what I always build with
# [23:28] <AryehGregor> (then why isn't it default? :) )
# [23:28] <dholbert> AryehGregor, because someone wanting to do their own build of firefox doesn't want a un-optimized assertion-laden build :)
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# [23:29] <dholbert> AryehGregor, I'm pretty sure it's pretty standard to have the default build options to be opt-friendly rather than debugging-friendly
# [23:30] <AryehGregor> Is this thing with all the JSPrincipals::dump() and js::SecurityWrapper and stuff meant to be a stack trace? Because it doesn't make sense to me.
# [23:30] <AryehGregor> dholbert, I guess it depends on what you think the average compiling person is doing.
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# [23:30] <AryehGregor> Do I have to do a make clean after setting that option? Recompiling didn't seem to do anything. Still no assertions.
# [23:31] <dholbert> AryehGregor, yeah, I'd clobber if I were you
# [23:31] <dholbert> AryehGregor, move your objdir out of the way (or delete it)
# [23:31] <@bz> AryehGregor: it used to be the default
# [23:31] <@bz> AryehGregor: people were building default and distributing it
# [23:31] <@bz> AryehGregor: and complaining it was slow
# [23:31] <AryehGregor> Ah.
# [23:31] <jgilbert_> bz: hah, hilarious. ><
# [23:32] <dholbert> bz, how would I wrap things in blocks at the frame construction item list level?
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# [23:32] <@bz> dholbert: same way we do anonymous table stuff
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# [23:33] <@bz> dholbert: right after that pass, if the parent is a flexbox, we could walk the kids and wrap any runs of inline-ish stuff
# [23:34] <RyanVM> philor: I'm basically done with inbound. There were a few I wasn't sure about and left unstarred.
# [23:34] <@bz> dholbert: that's what I suggested in the other bug, if you recall
# [23:34] <@bz> dholbert: once I found out we really do want to wrap the entire ib split
# [23:34] <dholbert> bz, Yeah -- I remembered you mentioning it, and I meant to ask you about it, but hadn't yet. :)
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# [23:35] <dholbert> bz, anyway -- thanks! [looking how we do table anonymous frames]
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# [23:35] <@bz> dholbert: fwiw, I'm happy to sit down with you on Monday and just walk through this
# [23:36] <@bz> dholbert: it'll be way easier in person
# [23:36] <@bz> dholbert: assuming you'll be in SF
# [23:36] <dholbert> bz, I will be -- that would be awesome
# [23:36] <@bz> ok
# [23:36] <dholbert> bz, I won't worry about it for now then
# [23:36] <@bz> gotta run
# [23:36] <dholbert> thanks!
# [23:36] <@bz> yeah
# [23:36] <@bz> we'll just do it monday
# [23:37] <@bz> should be easy
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