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# Session Start: Tue Mar 27 00:00:01 2012
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# [00:01] <Noah> mak: oddly enough I did run into one instance of -journal. The file is called extensions.sqlite-journal. I'm guessing there still some situations where we use the old name? Or maybe it varies depending on which .sqlite file it is? I see it in a profile running 10.0.2.
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# [00:01] <mak> Noah: each connection can choose the preferred journaling mode
# [00:01] <mak> Noah: only cookies and places use wal, afaik
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# [00:02] <Noah> mak: yeah, that's what I've been noticing. thanks again
# [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/360c61ec152a - Serge Gautherie - Bug 739008. (Av1a) Fix and improve test_sts_privatebrowsing.html. r=sstamm.
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# [00:04] <joe> ehsan: demo it on windows? :)
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# [00:04] <@ehsan> joe: well, this is something that we'd like to blog about when we're ready...
# [00:04] <@ehsan> as a technology demo
# [00:05] <@ehsan> and the performance problem only happens in one specific case
# [00:05] <@ehsan> other than that things are smooth...
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# [00:06] <Noah> joe: hi. i was wondering if you had a spare moment if you could check out this thread: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/922995 since you are the graphics guy I hear.
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# [00:06] <Noah> someone is trying to disable GPU acceleration
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# [00:10] <@smaug> MOZ_ASSERT_IF o_O
# [00:10] <@smaug> what is that doing
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# [00:10] <bz> smaug: asserts the second arg if the first one is true
# [00:10] <gavin> assert if another precondition is true
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# [00:10] <bz> smaug: so MOZ_ASSERT_IF(x, y) is the same as MOZ_ASSERT(!x || y)
# [00:10] <bz> smaug: but may be simpler to read
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# [00:11] <joe> Noah: it's very likely that that's just GDI using his graphics card
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# [00:11] <joe> nothing we can do there
# [00:12] <@smaug> horrible macro
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# [00:13] <nrc> How can I disable the 'continue in safe mode?' dialog which appears after a crash?
# [00:14] <nrc> It is so annoying when debugging!
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# [00:17] <blassey> does anyone have an indexedDB example that will work on trunk?
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# [00:18] <@ehsan> joe: filed bug 739431
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# [00:28] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7f4d6e62d1f7 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 736114 - Fire an event every 5 seconds containing the signal strength and link speed of the connection. Also add a synchronous API for clients that don't want to wait for the
# [00:29] <firebot> signal. r=cjones DONTBUILD
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# [00:31] <Noah> nrc: are you getting this dialog? https://bug732303.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=604367
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# [00:32] <nrc> Noah: that's the one, well the windows version anyway
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# [00:33] <Callek> mrbkap: am I missing something or why the heck is that DONTBUILD?
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# [00:34] <Callek> mrbkap: given that its code inside of /dom/
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# [00:35] <mbrubeck> WinXP debug M5 is near-perma-orange on inbound
# [00:35] <Noah> nrc: yup, asking someone about it right now.
# [00:35] <Noah> nrc: set toolkit.startup.max_resumed_crashes to -1 to disable startup crash detection
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# [00:36] <mbrubeck> Callek: /dom/wifi is only built on B2G
# [00:36] <Callek> ahhh ok
# [00:36] <nrc> Noah: great thanks!
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# [00:38] <mrbkap> mbrubeck: thanks
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# [00:38] <mrbkap> Callek: sorry, didn't see your question until now.
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# [00:38] <Noah> nrc: no prob :)
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# [00:40] <@dbaron> bz, rdesktop is port 3389
# [00:40] <jwir3> philor, ping?
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# [00:40] <Waldo> Yoric: is your PGP uploaded to any of the usual servers, or no? now that I have enigmail installed to read secure bugmail, I keep getting enigmail nag UI about your mail not being verified
# [00:40] <Waldo> oh, hm, he left :-\
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# [00:43] <Noah> nrc: I was also told: by the way, if the user is using Aurora with the profile manager then there is a bug that will make them run into this more than usual. I was just requesting Aurora approval for the fix.
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# [00:43] <Noah> nrc: bug 731613 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731613
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# [00:44] <nrc> Noah: running nightly I see it all the time, but then I've been causing a lot of crashes :-)
# [00:44] <philor> jwir3: pong
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# [00:45] <philor> oh, pushed on top of red and now you're regretting it, huh? :)
# [00:45] <jwir3> philor: have you see the crazyness in the log for the orange on winxp debug on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=79f4d3ddee57 before?
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# [00:45] <jwir3> perhaps... heh
# [00:45] <Noah> nrc: hehe are you using something to crash on purpose like the crashmenow addon? does that still work even?
# [00:46] <Waldo> smaug: why is an assert-if macro horrible, exactly?
# [00:46] <jwir3> philor: here's the link to the actual log: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10382522&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1
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# [00:46] <nrc> Noah: no, I'm just writing buggy code :-)
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# [00:48] <philor> ah, that
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# [00:48] <philor> see above, where I said "I told you so" and above that where I said "no, you needed to disable that test, it's completely broken"
# [00:49] <philor> it attaches a console listener, believes incorrectly that only its messages will go to the console, then times out
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# [00:49] <philor> notice the lack of any mention of removing the listener after the timeout
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# [00:50] <mbrubeck> jwir3: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739354
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# [00:50] <mbrubeck> I'll go disable it now...
# [00:50] <philor> yay!
# [00:50] <jwir3> mbrubeck, philor: Ok, thanks!
# [00:51] <philor> and don't sweat the beta red much, though really people shouldn't be pushing on it, but it is infra
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# [00:53] <mbrubeck> philor: r? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1535833
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# [00:54] <jhammel> hmmm....it would be really nice if we had a way of disabling from tbpl
# [00:54] <mbrubeck> jhammel: Yeah, I wonder how many tests would still be running. ;)
# [00:54] <jhammel> that said, it would require me to revisit the test manifest issue
# [00:55] <jhammel> mbrubeck: heh, so harder == intertia? ;)
# [00:55] <philor> mbrubeck: r+, thanks
# [00:55] <philor> wonder whether than inbound win64 failure is real
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# [00:56] <philor> there was something earlier that smelled like bustage after one of the interrupted builds, so I clobbered, but apparently not quite hard enough
# [00:56] <philor> or maybe I clobbered after the first set of interrupts, not the second?
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# [01:02] <philor> indeed, silly of me
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# [01:06] <masterofhats> I have built my own xulrunner for getting a gecko-sdk, however the xpidl does not work. when running typelib.py I get "ImportError: No module named ply". this is mozilla-release
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# [01:06] <@ehsan> roc: ping
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# [01:07] <@roc> hi
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# [01:09] <@ehsan> roc: hey
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# [01:09] <@ehsan> roc: do you know why nsColumnsetFrame tries to disallow overflow frames?
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# [01:10] <@roc> not sure what you mean
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# [01:10] <@ehsan> roc: I'm looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724978
# [01:10] <@ehsan> nsColumnsetFrame derives from nsContainerFrame
# [01:11] <@ehsan> which is able to handle overflow lists (iinm)
# [01:11] <@ehsan> and then it does things like overloading SetInitialChildList and return error from Append/Insert/RemoveFrames
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# [01:11] <@ehsan> I'm not quire sure why it can't just let nsContainerFrame handle all thatr
# [01:12] <@roc> an nsColumnSetFrame can only have one child, a block
# [01:12] <@ehsan> roc: not if it's an absolute containing block
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# [01:13] <@roc> right, well, it isn't right now :-)
# [01:13] <@ehsan> roc: I'd like it to be
# [01:14] <@ehsan> roc: my real question is, is it safe to change that stuff?
# [01:15] <@roc> I think so
# [01:15] <@roc> who decided that abs-pos children of an element with columns should not break across column boundaries?
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# [01:15] <@ehsan> roc: nobody yet
# [01:16] <@ehsan> roc: I think the spec doesn't say anything about that
# [01:16] <@roc> yeah
# [01:16] <@roc> it needs to
# [01:16] <@ehsan> roc: but my goal for now is to fix the regression
# [01:16] <@ehsan> roc: so that the child doesn't get parented at the wrong frame
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# [01:23] <masterofhats> xulrunner sdk building anyone?
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# [01:24] <nthomas> care to elaborate ?
# [01:24] <masterofhats> [15:58] masterofhats I have built my own xulrunner for getting a gecko-sdk, however the xpidl does not work. when running typelib.py I get "ImportError: No module named ply". this is mozilla-release
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# [01:25] <masterofhats> nthomas: no idea why xpidl does not work. the downloaded gecko sdk works
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# [01:27] <nthomas> masterofhats: hmm, I dunno what's up with that
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# [01:41] <philor> can't somebody find another tree and push something else? we're never going to make it over 1500 pending this way!
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# [01:43] <@dbaron> philor, RESOLVED NOTABUG
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# [01:53] <philor> another two or three hundred of bug 703774 and I'm going to think maybe something's up
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# [01:54] <WG9s> philor:hmm that seems now. I don;t recall ever starring a build with that.
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# [01:55] <sicking> froydnj: ping
# [01:55] <mbrubeck> it exploded into prominence in the past couple weeks
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# [01:56] <philor> aww, the ProxyListener leak is going to knock it out of first place in this week's email :(
# [01:56] <mbrubeck> now it's the #2 randomorange: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/?display=Bug&bugid=703774&startday=2012-02-26&endday=2012-03-26&tree=mozilla-inbound
# [01:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/18fedd79d6cc - Michael Wu - Bug 739417 - InputReader doesn't send motion up events, r=cjones NPOTB DONTBUILD
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# [01:58] <rnewman> nice/away
# [01:58] <rnewman> OK chaps, anyone seen this before?
# [01:58] <rnewman> ld: duplicate symbol smsGetCalibration(sms_calibration*) in ../../hal/smslib.o and ../../dom/system/cocoa/smslib.o
# [01:58] <rnewman> I blew away my tree and it still happens
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# [01:59] <rnewman> bz did, too
# [01:59] <philor> fx-team did, too
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# [01:59] <rnewman> time to walk my lucky dog yet again
# [02:00] <rnewman> I swear I've spent my whole day fixing fallout from other people's broken builds
# [02:00] <rnewman> I feel like philor
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# [02:02] <mbrubeck> rnewman: I feel your pain
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# [02:04] <RyanVM> jlebar: ping
# [02:04] <RyanVM> or bz: ping
# [02:04] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: hi
# [02:04] <RyanVM> hey
# [02:04] <RyanVM> I've got a regression from bug 737307
# [02:04] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: Uh oh.
# [02:04] <RyanVM> can't log in to ING banking
# [02:05] <WG9s> This is just my $.02 but it seems to me that all of these random failure test bugs need to be given a much higher priority than they are or the entire test system is really not that usefaul. a non-green build anywhere should be a major alarm adn not a oh we get a lot of random failures so this all needs to be taken with a gran of salt.
# [02:05] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: I just landed on Aurora.
# [02:05] <jlebar|mac> :)
# [02:05] <@khuey> I bet that's exactly what jlebar|mac wanted to hear
# [02:05] <WG9s> the entire system is really borken.
# [02:05] <RyanVM> hahaha
# [02:05] <WG9s> broken.
# [02:05] <mbrubeck> hg log -u mbrubeck --template '{desc}\n' | head -100 | egrep -ic 'back.*out|merge'
# [02:05] <mbrubeck> 49
# [02:05] <RyanVM> what component should I file under since I can't see which one the original is in?
# [02:05] <WG9s> almost as borken as my tpying. ;-)
# [02:05] <mbrubeck> awesome, more than half of my commits are actual code! :D
# [02:05] <RyanVM> (actually, can you just CC me to it so I can mark the dependency?)
# [02:06] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: Definitely.
# [02:06] <RyanVM> thanks
# [02:06] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: Thank you!
# [02:06] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: I'm sure I won't be so enthusiastic in a few hours. :)
# [02:06] <RyanVM> heh
# [02:06] <RyanVM> well, for a sneak preview
# [02:06] <RyanVM> ingdirect.com
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# [02:07] <RyanVM> "View My Account"
# [02:07] <RyanVM> enter something and click on Continue
# [02:07] <RyanVM> nothing will happen
# [02:07] <RyanVM> hitting enter works fine
# [02:07] <RyanVM> problem is, if you're already logged in, your username is in a dropdown, so you can't hit enter
# [02:07] <jlebar|mac> RyanVM: Awesome.
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# [02:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5adbca606d51 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 739008. (Bv1) Fix patch Av1a. r=sstamm.
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# [02:14] <RyanVM> jlebar: hopefully you can reproduce :)
# [02:14] <@bz> jlebar|mac: fwiw, I have an ING account
# [02:14] <@bz> jlebar|mac: if that would be useful
# [02:15] <@smaug> do we have any helper method to check if a document is in a background tab?
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# [02:15] <jlebar|mac> bz: Sounds good. I'll see what I can do without one, first.
# [02:16] <@bz> jlebar|mac: sounds good
# [02:16] <@bz> smaug: from JS or C++ ?
# [02:16] <@bz> smaug: but in general, "yes"
# [02:16] <@bz> smaug: though it depends on how specifically you mean "background tab"
# [02:16] <@bz> smaug: what if it's in a minimized window?
# [02:17] <@smaug> bz: whatever IsActive returns
# [02:17] <@smaug> default is true..., good
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# [02:40] <@smaug> bz: what is sInterruptChecksToSkip?
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# [02:42] <@bz> smaug: something to avoid checking for interrupts too often
# [02:42] <@bz> smaug: because HavePendingInputEvent() is not exactly cheap....
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# [02:43] <@smaug> that is what I guess
# [02:43] <@smaug> ok
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# [02:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c3cb87871829 - Chris Jones - Bug 739090: Dynamically call the right *ForceUse interface. r=mwu (npotb)
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# [02:51] <mib_ktnh6w> Hi
# [02:51] <mib_ktnh6w> Do you reproduce this bug you have? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733634
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# [03:02] <felipe> do we have something in the tree to properly escape strings for use in XML text nodes (not attributes)?
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# [03:03] <@smaug> felipe: I'd ask hsivonen
# [03:03] <@smaug> but probably quite late or early for him atm
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# [03:04] <tn> ehsan, patch you posted in 612128 is empty
# [03:04] <@ehsan> tn: wut?!
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# [03:05] <felipe> smaug: ok thanks for the suggestion, i'll talk to him later
# [03:05] <tn> ehsan, https://bug612128.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=609563
# [03:05] <@ehsan> how did that happen?!
# [03:05] <@ehsan> yeah
# [03:05] <@ehsan> dammit
# [03:05] <@ehsan> oh yeah
# [03:06] <@ehsan> tn: turns out that hg doesn't support diffing stuff which lives in a git repo ;)
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# [03:06] <tn> ehsan, odd, file a bug on hg?
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# [03:06] <@ehsan> absolutely
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# [03:07] <@ehsan> tn: thanks for letting me know
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# [03:18] <gavin> ehsan: ping (question about bug 723353)
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# [03:25] <mayhemer> is there anything wrong with ssh://hg.mozilla.org?
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# [03:26] <mayhemer> remote: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
# [03:26] <mayhemer> hmm.. looks like it's up again
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# [03:26] <mayhemer> ah, no... it isn't
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# [03:28] <RyanVM> ehsan: sheesh, you'll do anything to avoid working on editor :P
# [03:28] <RyanVM> (saw you assigning yourself to js and layout bugs recently :))
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# [03:29] <rnewman> anyone else having trouble sshing to hg.mo?
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# [03:30] <bjacob> will there be a m-i -> m-c merge before tomorrow's nightly?
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# [03:31] <rnewman> I might even volunteer, but right now I can't actually touch hg, so :D
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# [03:32] <RyanVM> rnewman: looks like c-c builds are
# [03:32] <RyanVM> lots of 500 internal server errors
# [03:32] <RyanVM> though that's not SSH...
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# [03:33] * rnewman files
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# [03:36] <rnewman> filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739492
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# [03:39] <Callek> RyanVM: which tree?
# [03:39] <RyanVM> ldap it appears
# [03:39] <RyanVM> Callek: http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=SeaMonkey/1332809033.1332809182.29427.gz
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# [03:41] <Callek> RyanVM: ugh will have to look into that later, thanks
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# [03:41] <RyanVM> np
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# [04:33] <philor> hmm. if I closed beta, would it keep people out, or would they just make me even more sad by CLOSED TREE pushing?
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# [05:55] <mbrubeck> dolske: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20sw%3A%22good%20second%20bug%22
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# [05:57] <mounir> can someone enable more connections to IRC from a specific IP?
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# [05:57] <mounir> there is a work week and some people in the hotel can't connect to moznet
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# [05:58] <gavin> need to file a server ops bug, provide the external IP and ask for a IRC connection limit exemption
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# [06:13] <@bz> anyone around who can bump the connection limit for a particular IP up?
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# [06:13] <@bz> or know where I should ask about that sort of thing?
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# [06:14] <Callek> bz: irc?
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# [06:15] <jdm> smaug just filed a bug about it
# [06:15] <Callek> bz: if so, head to #it and ask I *think* any ircop can, if not its a real ServerOps issue I think
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# [06:15] <Callek> or that
# [06:15] <dumitru> hi
# [06:15] <dumitru> who summoned me?
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# [06:16] <Callek> dumitru++
# [06:16] <dumitru> Callek: you are wrong, irc limits are handled by server ops only :)
# [06:16] <dumitru> Callek: bz : what's the bug #?
# [06:16] <@bz> dumitru: 12.197.88.10
# [06:16] <Callek> dumitru: I take it you were stalking irc-op
# [06:16] <@bz> dumitru: That's the IP for the network the SF work week folks are all on
# [06:16] <dumitru> Callek: because I am one
# [06:16] <@bz> dumitru: can you bump the connection limit for that IP, please?
# [06:16] <dumitru> bz: I think I already increased that today
# [06:17] <dumitru> bz: do you have a bug number?
# [06:17] * @bz is still getting "too many connections"
# [06:17] <dumitru> we need to keep track of them
# [06:17] <@bz> no bug number
# [06:17] <philor> dumitru: bug 739516
# [06:17] <@bz> aha
# [06:17] <dumitru> maybe it's a dynamic IP
# [06:17] * @bz looks at bug
# [06:17] <@bz> could be
# [06:17] <dumitru> yeah
# [06:17] <@bz> the bug there is about the whole ip range
# [06:17] <dumitru> I'll fix
# [06:17] <@bz> thanks!
# [06:17] <dumitru> np
# [06:18] * @bz is sorta going through two separate ssh tunnels to get here. ;)
# [06:18] <@bz> it's a little silly
# [06:18] <dumitru> ancy
# [06:18] <@bz> also high latency
# [06:18] <dumitru> fancy
# [06:18] <dumitru> why need the increase then? :)
# [06:18] <@bz> see "high latency"
# [06:18] <smontagu> lots of tunnels in SF
# [06:18] <@bz> I like it when I can type and see what I typed
# [06:18] <dumitru> I don't see it
# [06:18] <dumitru> :)
# [06:18] <dumitru> what smontagu said also
# [06:18] <@bz> dumitru: just let me walk over there....
# [06:18] <@bz> dumitru: then you'll _really_ see what high latency means
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# [06:19] <philor> masayuki: looks like your bug 668606 is going to be really really flaky on WinXP at least
# [06:19] * @bz more meant in terms of walking latency.... ;)
# [06:20] <philor> err, your bug 668606 *test*
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# [06:24] <avih> jaws: hi :) couldn't quite follow your explanation. how does removing the checkin flags makes it easier for someone to check it in?
# [06:25] <dumitru> bz: done, give it 30 mins max for puppet to deploy the changes
# [06:25] <@bz> dumitru: thanks!
# [06:25] <dumitru> np
# [06:26] <dumitru> I added the entire block AMERISUITES has from AT&T
# [06:26] <dumitru> so it should be good
# [06:26] <jaws> avih: when checking in, they have to click on each patch to mark check-in+
# [06:26] <avih> ok
# [06:26] <jaws> avih: with the keyword, they only have to remove the keyword
# [06:26] <avih> keyword?
# [06:26] <jaws> check-in? is good for when some patches should be checked while others shouldn't
# [06:27] <jaws> the checkin-needed is a keyword, so they just remove that keyword on the bug to state that checkin is no longer needed
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# [06:29] <avih> jaws: i must be missing something. when i post a patch, and i want it reviewd, i mark it as "? :jaws" for instance. shouldn't i mark it with checkin if i want that someone checks it in for me?
# [06:29] <jaws> avih: so each patch could have "check-in?" but that requires the person doing the checking in to update each patch to say that each patch has been checked in
# [06:29] <jaws> avih: if the "checkin-needed" keyword is used, then they will only have to update the keywords list on the bug, so it is a little less work for them
# [06:30] <avih> so what's the alternative? can i somehoemark the entirepatch as checkin?
# [06:30] <jaws> avih: yeah i did that already, see the keywords where i put "checkin-needed"
# [06:30] <avih> oh, so checkin and checkin-needed are 2 different keywords?
# [06:31] <avih> and teh keyword is for the bug? or per patch?
# [06:31] <jaws> putting "checkin-needed" as a keyword says that all the patches here should be checked in. "checkin?" is a flag that is used on patches, whereas "checkin-needed" is used for the whole bug
# [06:32] <avih> jaws: i see. and you need to manually type checkin-needed at the keywords firld?
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# [06:32] <jaws> avih: yeah, you type it but there is also autocomplete
# [06:32] <avih> oh, i see
# [06:33] <jaws> keywords are a fixed set
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# [06:34] <avih> jaws: sorry that i didn't follow you earlier. must have intermixed checkin flag with the checkin-needed keyword, and just couldn't understand what u mean :)
# [06:35] <jaws> oh no problems :)
# [06:35] <avih> basically, i just didn't expect it would be 2 different things ;)
# [06:35] <jaws> its a kind of hard thing to describe over text
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# [06:36] <avih> jaws: well.. u managed to ;) so thx
# [06:36] <jaws> thanks :)
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# [06:37] <avih> jaws: u know, especially for noobs, drop down or checkbox is much easier than checkin-needed keyword (even if it has autocomplete), and afterall, this feature IS for noobs.. so.. a bit backward imo
# [06:38] <jaws> avih: yeah, i can see how it is hidden
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# [06:42] <@bz> A C question
# [06:42] <@bz> say I have |typedef void (FooCallback*)(void* arg)|
# [06:42] <@bz> If I then declare a function like this:
# [06:42] <@bz> void someFunc(MyStruct* arg);
# [06:42] <@bz> and pass it to someone expecting a FooCallback (with a manual cast)
# [06:43] <@bz> will that do the right thing?
# [06:43] * @bz thinks it should.....
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# [06:48] <Mossop> Ugh, why is typing on twitter.com so insanely laggy?
# [06:48] <jesup> It should, though the spec says it's undefined: "By the C specification, casting a function pointer results in undefined behavior."
# [06:48] <jesup> bz: GCC 4.3 returned NULL from a cast for a while in beta apparently
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# [06:55] <jesup> bz: in practice, that's probably ok so long as there are no other differences in the function specs
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# [06:57] <@bz> jesup: yeah, no other differences
# [06:58] <@bz> jesup: heh
# [06:58] <@bz> jesup: in all fairness, I would be passing this function pointer to a jit
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# [06:58] <@bz> jesup: which would then bake it into the code it's generating....
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# [06:58] <@bz> jesup: as a pointer to jump to...
# [06:59] <@bz> jesup: so.... ;)
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# [06:59] <@dolske> mbrubeck: so, after folks first their first bug they have to work on MathML? cool! ;)
# [07:00] <mbrubeck> it's the hazing ritual. :)
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# [07:01] <jesup> mbrubeck: If you want to haze them, have their second bug be a layout or reflow bug.... ;-)
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# [07:03] <@bz> dolske: you laugh, but...
# [07:03] * @bz tries to recall what :tn's first bug was
# [07:04] <@bz> not sure I can get bugzilla to sort things that wy for me
# [07:04] <@bz> er, way
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# [07:17] <mbrubeck> bz: bug 486644?
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# [07:17] <mbrubeck> That's the first one in hg with tn's email address
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# [07:20] <@bz> mbrubeck: I meant the first one he fixed, not file
# [07:20] <@bz> mbrubeck: er, filed
# [07:20] <@bz> mrbubeck: in any case, I think it wasn't as scary as I recalled it being... ;)
# [07:21] <mbrubeck> bz: That's what I was looking for... I used "hg log -u nikkel"
# [07:22] <jdm> I remember roc talking about it
# [07:23] <jdm> something to do with border-collapse, maybe?
# [07:23] <jdm> and tables?
# [07:25] <@bz> mbrubeck: oh, ok
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# [07:26] <mbrubeck> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=485275 was checked in on the same day
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# [07:32] <tn> me ears are burning? :)
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# [07:32] <@bz> heh
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# [07:33] <tn> i think 485275 was the first i fixed and the first i filed
# [07:34] <@ehsan> gavin: pong
# [07:35] <dholbert> bz, does this look like a reasonable way to honor whitespace between flexbox items (assuming we do want to honor it)? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1536892
# [07:36] <dholbert> bz, basically, adding an arg to SkipWhitespace to let us optionally honor the white-space property
# [07:36] <dholbert> (Maybe I don't need to check that per-whitespace chunk?)
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# [07:38] <dholbert> (I wasn't sure whether <span style="white-space: pre"> </span> would be considered IsWhitespace()... now that I reconsider it, it's probably not. So maybe I can just do the white-space property check once, on the flexbox's StyleContext, and just skip the SkipWhitespace call depending on the response?)
# [07:38] <@bz> Seems fine, though the "this is whitespace" comemnt is wrong; we don't know whether it is
# [07:38] <dholbert> bz, oh right
# [07:39] <@bz> but yes, this is only relevant for text items
# [07:39] <@bz> so yeah, you could do the check just on the flexbox
# [07:39] <dholbert> ok, that's cleaner then
# [07:39] <dholbert> thanks!
# [07:39] <@bz> at least as long as we don't have a way to style text with a separate white-space from the parent element... ;)
# [07:39] <@bz> which is a safe assumption
# [07:39] <dholbert> heh
# [07:40] <dholbert> .foo { white-space: normal} .foo:white-space-children { white-space: pre }
# [07:41] <@bz> ::white-space-children!
# [07:41] <dholbert> er, right
# [07:41] <dholbert> anyway: pleaseno
# [07:41] <@bz> heh
# [07:41] <@bz> indeed
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# [08:03] <jdm> hate hate hate
# [08:03] <jdm> one more week of school
# [08:04] <Mark_Capella> jdm: wyb?
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# [08:04] <jdm> Mark_Capella: I am unfamiliar with that acronym.
# [08:04] <Mark_Capella> where ya been ?
# [08:05] <jdm> I've been slogging on writing a paper all weekend long
# [08:05] <jdm> and today as well
# [08:05] <Mark_Capella> oh well ... thats important
# [08:05] <jdm> arguing that the baroque period wasn't terrible for women composers
# [08:05] <Mark_Capella> cool! major?
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# [08:07] <Mark_Capella> hey you're cc:ed on a bug712936 ... involved or just watching?
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# [08:48] <glazou> ooooh a new version of colloquy...
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# [08:54] <hsivonen> Jesse: <script> elements created by innerHTML are inert. I'd expect onfoo event handlers to get compiled with the script global object of the owner doc, but I haven't tested.
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# [09:01] <jlebar|mac> You know, on second thought, pushing that patch without pushing to try was probably not the best idea.
# [09:01] <jlebar|mac> Oh well. philor|away, it's my fault if the tree burns. I'm sorry.
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# [09:03] <Ms2ger> Want me to do a preemptive strike?
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# [09:05] <jlebar|mac> Ms2ger: Might as well let it get a free try run.
# [09:05] <jlebar|mac> Ms2ger: I mean, there's a chance it'll work. :)
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# [09:06] <jlebar|mac> Ms2ger: otoh, I need to get ready for bed, so, up to you!
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# [09:08] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: let's see what inbound-try says
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# [09:09] <jlebar|mac> Sorry, I should have thought about my past experiences with small, harmless imagelib changes. :)
# [09:09] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, looks good for you, at least :)
# [09:10] <Ms2ger> Though I saw these patches on try yesterday
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# [09:13] <Ms2ger> Nice troll in mdp
# [09:13] <hsivonen> hey. nsIParser::GetCommand had its 14th birthday on Sunday
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# [09:14] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: the "user choice" thread?
# [09:14] <Ms2ger> http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/19989376034/works-every-time < except when you've got xpidllex.py in your sourcedir
# [09:14] <Ms2ger> Tep
# [09:15] <Ms2ger> Yep, even
# [09:15] <@bz> Look, users should have the choice to shoot themselves in the head
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# [09:15] <@bz> and not only should they have that choice, but it should be a preferece in the prefs dialog
# [09:15] <@bz> a hidden preference is just not good enough
# [09:16] <@bz> Because it makes it hard to shoot self in the head on a whim
# [09:16] <Ms2ger> Let's ask on startup if they want the external view source viewer
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# [09:17] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: occasionally (whenever I accidentally break it) I wish a user of the external view source editor pref volunteered to write some test cases for it
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# [09:17] <Ms2ger> Heh
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# [09:18] <hsivonen> sigh. this clipboard thing still isn't over
# [09:19] <hsivonen> looks like I have to emulate the oddities of the old code in order to pass review and then file a new bug about removing the oddities
# [09:19] <Ms2ger> "Compat"
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# [09:19] <Ms2ger> Also, I liked the idea of hiring someone full time to fix XXXbz comments
# [09:19] <@bz> hmm?
# [09:19] <@bz> who had that idea?
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# [09:20] <@bz> hey
# [09:20] <@bz> that's my strategy
# [09:20] <hsivonen> bz: my idea
# [09:20] <@bz> hsivonen: you ran into a few more of them, eh? :(
# [09:20] <hsivonen> bz: yes
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# [09:20] <@bz> hsivonen: :(
# [09:21] <hsivonen> for example, yesterday's accidental extenal view source editor breakage was thanks to code you had already flagged as bogus
# [09:21] <hsivonen> *external
# [09:21] <@bz> heh
# [09:21] <@bz> which code?
# [09:21] <@bz> "Found 353 matching lines in 166 files"
# [09:22] <hsivonen> bz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/viewsource/content/viewSourceUtils.js#159
# [09:22] <@bz> ah
# [09:22] <@bz> well, so...
# [09:22] <@bz> yeah
# [09:23] <@bz> I tried to talk people out of that code and failed...
# [09:23] <@bz> not least because I had no particularly better option to offer at the time. :(
# [09:23] <hsivonen> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739184 but I'm not holding my breath until someone decides to fix it
# [09:24] <@bz> indeed
# [09:25] <@bz> ah
# [09:25] <@bz> script global
# [09:25] <@bz> nice
# [09:26] <@bz> So they could even keep using the source thing
# [09:26] <@bz> just need to use an iframe
# [09:26] <@bz> instead of an in-memory docshell
# [09:27] <hsivonen> or we could have a way to tell chrome XHR to load from the cache if there's a cache entry (even if on the verge of being doomed)
# [09:27] <@bz> yeah
# [09:27] <hsivonen> and let XHR fish out the data from the cache as arraybuffers
# [09:27] <@bz> that's not the hard part
# [09:27] <@bz> the hard part is giving the XHR the data it needs to do the load
# [09:27] <@bz> the cache token, to be precise
# [09:28] <@bz> that's why that stuff goes through the docshell right now
# [09:28] * @bz shoul really come up with a better cache api sometime
# [09:28] <@bz> but not tonigher
# [09:28] <@bz> er, tonight
# [09:28] <@bz> because it's late
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# [09:46] <jlebar|mac> Hey, maybe it's green!
# [09:46] <jlebar|mac> Yay.
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# [09:48] <Chetan> hey
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# [09:49] <Chetan> I am interested in applying to Mozilla for GSoc...
# [09:51] <Mavericks> Chetan: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/mozilla
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# [09:56] <jdm> Chetan: oh, did you email the security list about the CSP project?
# [09:56] <Mavericks> Chetan: and another one - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode12#Developer_Tools]
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# [10:09] <MarcoZ> Any estimate when mozilla-beta will be reopened? I have an approved patch to push. :)
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# [10:14] <@roc> nthomas: ^^^
# [10:14] <nthomas> I'm working on it, probably take another hour or so
# [10:15] <MarcoZ> nthomas: Thanks!
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# [10:24] <glandium> what is the magical incantation to build for x86 on x64 OSX ?
# [10:27] <josh> glandium: this is what I use, if you want gcc instead of clang just s/clang/gcc/
# [10:27] <josh> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1537231
# [10:27] <glandium> josh: thanks
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# [10:31] <NeilAway> hsivonen: what does it mean to load an HTML document as data? just XHR?
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# [10:36] <glazou> NeilAway: yes
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# [10:38] <jdm> what's the common definition of clobbering?
# [10:38] <jdm> I've always assumed it was rm -rf objdir
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# [10:39] <gaston> *remove all the things*
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# [10:46] <hsivonen> NeilAway: XHR or one of the Thunderbird message conversion things
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# [10:48] <Mark_Capella> WIN its rd /s /q objdir
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# [10:53] <glazou> someone posted an article on pmo about the new fullscreebutton attribute for OS X fullscreen and since the article is not on pmo any more, I can't find it; any clue anyone ?
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# [10:54] <glandium> glazou: http://zpao.com/posts/lion-full-screen-coming-to-firefox/ ?
# [10:54] <glazou> exactly
# [10:54] <glazou> thanks a lot glandium
# [10:54] <glandium> glazou: thank google reader
# [10:55] <glazou> should have been in my rss reader but since I had to reinstall my laptop in the meantime...
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# [11:36] <hsivonen> hmm. searching on the AMO Web site consistently gives me more complete results that searching in the in-app Add-ons Manager
# [11:36] <hsivonen> and Google gives me better results *that point to AMO* than AMO's own search
# [11:36] <hsivonen> when trying to locate particular extensions
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# [11:37] <KaiRo> hmm, never tried Google there, but have seen the first part quite a few times
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# [11:42] <glob> anyone awake with a pgp enabled email client?
# [11:42] <Standard8> hsivonen: could it be that the missing add-ons are not marked as compatible with your current version of FF, and the in-app version isn't taking account of the strict compatibility being turned off?
# [11:42] <Standard8> glob: try Usul in #maildev
# [11:42] <glob> Standard8, thanks
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# [11:43] <Standard8> hsivonen: if so that's a know issue that AMO haven't fixed yet
# [11:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8ff0525ff798 - Andreas Gal - mozSettings is missing a few files in the b2g package manifest (bug 739536, r=cjones).
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# [11:46] <hsivonen> Standard8: ok. thanks
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# [12:14] <nthomas> MarcoZ - mozilla-beta is reopened
# [12:14] <avih> can firefox be built using clang on windows?
# [12:15] * NeilAway doubts it
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# [12:16] <avih> NeilAway: afaik, on osx it can build firefox, is wondows that far from building?
# [12:16] <jacek> probably not out of box, but since it may be built with GCC for windows, it shouldn't be too far from possible
# [12:17] <glandium> http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1islgRwmb1rrf1eeo1_500.png not even true, cf. bug 729752
# [12:17] <@roc> nthomas: thanks!
# [12:17] <@roc> now go to bed
# [12:18] <avih> jacek: assuming it can be done, would it have any advantage over msvc builds? (build time, runtime performance)
# [12:18] <nthomas> same to you!
# [12:18] <glandium> roc: good night
# [12:18] <@roc> I'm just getting going
# [12:18] <glandium> avih: build time
# [12:18] <glandium> that's about all you'd get
# [12:19] <NeilAway> glandium: heh
# [12:19] <avih> i see. well.. build time on windows can be an issue, so maybe for the try servers, it would be useful (also for other devs, for the same reason)
# [12:19] <NeilAway> glandium: but wouldn't distclean have removed the $GARBAGE ?
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# [12:19] <jacek> avih: yeah, build time plus possibility to cross compile
# [12:20] <avih> jacek: to or from windows?
# [12:20] <glandium> avih: not sure it would help that much for try servers. because i get about the same build times on my mac under linux with gcc and windows with msvc
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# [12:20] <jacek> (plus full open source toolchain stack if you care)
# [12:21] <glandium> avih: which means the slowness of windows builds on buildbots is due to something else (i think we are still not building with pymake and thus not with -jsomething)
# [12:21] <avih> glandium: interesting. I'm getting 37 mins with pymake in core 2 duo (2 cores, no HT) @3GHz/6G ram, cpu is at 100% about 70% of the build process. i could do with less than almost 40 mins...
# [12:21] <NeilAway> indeed, we're still at -j1 on Windows buildbots
# [12:22] <mak> and not pymake
# [12:22] <avih> also, getting rid of msvc dependency can never be too bad..
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# [12:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7731e8b41a70 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 736114 - Fix dumb typo. r=vingtetun DONTBUILD
# [12:23] <avih> is gcc better than msvc for build time?
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# [12:26] <jacek> avih: I meant cross compiling to windows
# [12:26] <avih> ok
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# [12:28] <jacek> I'm not sure about compilers' speeds, but cross compiling is way faster. you get configure script ran with normal speed (unlike on windows) and my feeling is that regular make on linux is faster than pymake on windows
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# [12:28] <avih> jacek: the configure script is the initial part which runs just before compilation starts, yes?
# [12:29] <avih> the check etc?
# [12:29] <avih> checks*
# [12:29] <dwarfcrank> configure generates the makefilea
# [12:29] <avih> on my system it's about 2 mins. not THAT much in the grand scheme of things...
# [12:29] <dwarfcrank> makefiles*
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# [12:30] <@roc> I've always wondered why configure is so ridiculously slow on Windows
# [12:30] <avih> I also tried to build it on a ramdrive, got literally zero speedup...
# [12:30] <avih> maybe 1-2% tops.
# [12:31] <avih> though searching through files is much faster on a ramdrive :)
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# [12:31] <dwarfcrank> roc: Also the random "compiler not found" errors with msvc are annoying :)
# [12:31] <avih> pymake must be doing a very good job
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# [12:31] <avih> (-j4)
# [12:32] <jacek> roc: afair it's about creating processes is slow on windows (at least the way msys does it)
# [12:32] <@roc> that's certainly part of the problem, but it's hard to believe that it's the whole problem
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# [12:40] <glazou> NTFS file access is also a problem ; a |rm -fr| on a large directory takes ~20 times more time on win than on linux/mac
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# [12:44] <gcp> yes, thats also very noticeable
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# [13:05] <glandium> roc: it is. running configure runs a *lot* of processes
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# [13:06] <@roc> is that because it's written in sh?
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# [13:07] <@roc> AHA
# [13:07] <@roc> found my bug, finally
# [13:08] <@roc> I hate debugging stuff like "audio crackles a bit"
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# [13:09] <avih> roc: buffer underrun?
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# [13:09] <@roc> yeah
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# [13:10] <avih> roc: due to cc?
# [13:11] <@roc> figuring out why underruns kept happening was hard
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# [13:11] <avih> well.. if timing is tight, buffer can always be extended, while aiming abit further down it.
# [13:11] <@roc> in this case it turned out to be because one piece of code was keeping track of time in milliseconds and passing values to another piece of code that expected values in units of 2^-20 seconds
# [13:12] <@roc> er, the former piece of code was using microseconds
# [13:12] <avih> heh
# [13:12] <avih> ugly
# [13:12] <avih> (good bug, ugly to figure)
# [13:14] <darktrojan> 2^-20?
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# [13:26] <@roc> it's close to microseconds, but you can divide by it efficiently
# [13:27] <@roc> this code converts from "audio sample count" to "media time" a lot
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# [13:27] <@roc> audio sample rates are in Hz
# [13:27] <@roc> so the conversion is a multiply and a shift when media time is in 2^-20 seconds
# [13:27] <@roc> when media time is microseconds, it's a multiply and a divide
# [13:28] <@roc> integer division on ARM is horrible
# [13:28] <@roc> it's a library call
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# [13:28] <darktrojan> ah yeah that figures
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# [13:33] <Unfocused> perwsonas*
# [13:33] <Unfocused> ... wow, io botched that
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# [13:34] <MarcoZ> nthomas|away: Thanks! Will land my patch.
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# [14:05] <KaiRo> hrm, as long as the Firefox password manager can't fill in a BrowserID/Persona password, I guess I'll have to keep a simple one I can easily remember and type there - would be nicer if I could use a more secure one
# [14:06] <hsivonen> KaiRo: is there a bug filed? Browser ID being password manager-hostile is sad-making.
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# [14:41] <mak> edmorley: thanks
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# [14:41] <mak> just have to send mails for security stuff
# [14:42] <edmorley> you can /msg me if you want?
# [14:42] <edmorley> i've done 733640
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# [14:42] <mak> ah good
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# [14:43] <JesperHansen> I need to test all tinderbox builds between nightly build 2012-03-21 and 2012-03-22. Anyone got a link to those builds? Hopefully something better than ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/
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# [14:48] <edmorley> JesperHansen: I don't know of anything better sorry
# [14:48] <edmorley> the quickest way I've found is to use the txt file inside each to find out the changeset it was built from
# [14:48] <edmorley> and just bisect from those
# [14:49] <edmorley> (using the timestamps of the folders as a rough guide to where to start looking)
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# [14:49] <edmorley> although the older builds get symlinked aiui, which messes with the timestamp :-(
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# [14:51] <JesperHansen> yea, I tried to do that at first thinking "woot, this will be easy"
# [14:51] <edmorley> would be a good improvement to mozregression, to have tinderbox build support too
# [14:53] <JesperHansen> anyways, something happened with forms between the 22nd and 23rd (not 21st and 22nd) when pdf.js was introduced too. Forms with action="#" method="post" that does a javascript submit is not reading the 303 it gets properly and I have hunted it down to that window so far
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# [14:54] <JesperHansen> seems I need to look at 1332411140 - 1332503479
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# [14:55] <JesperHansen> 12 builds
# [14:55] <JesperHansen> let the fun begin
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# [14:57] <Matt> I'm trying to hide that new(ish) tooltip that displays "Transferring data from…", "Waiting for…", etc.
# [14:57] <Matt> i.e. what the status bar used to do
# [14:57] <Matt> anyone know of hand where it is displayed?
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# [15:04] <JesperHansen> that was surprisingly easy...
# [15:05] <JesperHansen> works in 1332411140 - broken in 1332418159
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# [15:07] <JesperHansen> so.. What in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b622d692b8ec could have broken that I wonder
# [15:07] <edmorley> sounds like you need to try the inbound tinderbox builds now ;-) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=b622d692b8ec
# [15:08] <edmorley> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win32/
# [15:09] <JesperHansen> That rev is a killer to look at!
# [15:09] <JesperHansen> its when the lot of code from pdf.js was added :C
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# [15:10] <JesperHansen> salute edmorley and thanks for that
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# [15:12] <edmorley> JesperHansen: if you ever see a merge changeset, look for the "pushlog: ..." link in the meta at the top of the rev page, and it will show you the more useful pushlog view :-)
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# [15:19] <JesperHansen> edmorley: guess I'll just pick a random place to start on inbound
# [15:21] <ewong> are mozilla/xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py and mozilla/xpcom/idl-parser/xpidlyacc.py both needed?
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# [15:22] <JesperHansen> could totally use a program that lists all the inbounds, lets me pick one to download and it extracts it into the folder
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# [15:25] <edmorley> JesperHansen: ok so ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win32/1332386300/ is the newest end of the merge 4790b56fe677
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# [15:27] <JesperHansen> edmorley: alright. Was 14 builds ahead of that and started going backwards
# [15:27] <glandium> ewong: in srcdir or in objdir ?
# [15:27] <edmorley> JesperHansen: and ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win32/1332337122/ the older end (149eff9b7b92)
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# [15:29] <ewong> srcdir
# [15:29] <ewong> glandium: ^
# [15:29] <glandium> ewong: none, then. beware of .pyc files if there are some, too
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# [15:30] <JesperHansen> is 1332386300 unixtime?
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# [15:31] <glandium> JesperHansen: current time being 1332854614, i'd say yes
# [15:31] <ewong> glandium: thanks!
# [15:31] <JesperHansen> k, it works in 1332386300 and 1332386300 doesn't work
# [15:32] <JesperHansen> it works in 1332337122 I meant
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# [15:34] <edmorley> JesperHansen: each inbound tinderbox build will just be a few changesets, so once you have it down to one build, should be fairly clear
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# [15:34] <JesperHansen> edmorley: thanks. Seems its a range of 39 builds then
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# [15:36] <hsivonen> hmm. browserquest doesn't work in IE10
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# [15:39] <JesperHansen> edmorley: found it to be broken in ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win32/1332338261/ and not 1332337122. Changeset: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a2c57fa8edf
# [15:39] <JesperHansen> which does implment a StopOutstandingOtherDocumentLoad()
# [15:40] <edmorley> JesperHansen: ah
# [15:40] <edmorley> JesperHansen: what broke out of interest?
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# [15:41] <JesperHansen> all the toolbar buttons in joomla installations
# [15:41] <edmorley> (that bug has regressed another site too it would appear)
# [15:42] <JesperHansen> hmm, bug I cant see :(
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# [15:42] <edmorley> JesperHansen: please may you file a bug in core::document navigation, CC: ":bz:", mark as blocking bug 737307
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# [15:43] <edmorley> and also CC :jlebar please
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# [15:43] <JesperHansen> will do
# [15:43] <edmorley> thanks :-)
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# [15:44] <edmorley> the other site regression was bug 739478 btw
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# [15:45] <edmorley> JesperHansen: don't worry too much about the other bug fields, I can fix those up if needed
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# [15:47] <JesperHansen> edmorley: filled this in CC field: ":bz: :jlebar" it looks wrong since I am used to emails. Does bz support aliases now?
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# [15:48] <edmorley> JesperHansen: if you put ":bz, :jlebar" (comma separated) bugzilla should work it out. if not, just paste the number # and I'll add
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# [15:54] <JesperHansen> edmorley: I think it is 737307
# [15:54] <JesperHansen> I dont have access to the bug report I made lol
# [15:54] <JesperHansen> I usually do tho
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# [15:55] <JesperHansen> well, got to downgrade my firefox. Got work to do in joomla
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# [15:55] <edmorley> JesperHansen: 737307 is the bug that caused the regression, do you have the # for the new bug?
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# [15:57] <edmorley> JesperHansen: there's nothing new in the recently filed bugs saved search yet, unless the cache is getting carried away
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# [15:59] <edmorley> glob: it is possible to file a bug and list a closed bug in the blocking field yeah?
# [15:59] <froydnj> edmorley: yes
# [15:59] <glob> edmorley, yup
# [15:59] <givanica> All: Hy. I have a question about GSoC if someone can help me. So i should get that the projects that don't provide contact information for mentor are considered less important.?
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# [15:59] <edmorley> glob, froydnj: thanks, just checking that wasn't what was causing problems for JesperHansen
# [15:59] <Ms2ger> glob, really?
# [15:59] <JesperHansen> edmorley: guess I'll have to remake my bug report
# [16:00] <glob> Ms2ger, on bmo you can even resolve a bug without having first resolved the blockers
# [16:00] <Ms2ger> If you can't access the bug, I don't think you can add a blocking bug
# [16:00] <Ms2ger> glob, other "closed"
# [16:00] <edmorley> glob: s-g
# [16:00] <glob> Ms2ger, ah, i was thinking "closed" as a bug status
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# [16:01] <edmorley> sorry I could have been clearer
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# [16:01] <Ms2ger> Yeah, ambiguous terms ftl
# [16:01] <glob> edmorley, i don't think you can add a bug which you don't have access to
# [16:01] <JesperHansen> edmorley: I dont think I can make a bug report marking it as blocking to another bug I cant access
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# [16:01] <jbuck> givanica: most of the people on that list are using their IRC nicks, that's all
# [16:01] <edmorley> JesperHansen: yeah sorry, I was not aware of that :-( might the bug form still be in your session history?
# [16:02] <edmorley> JesperHansen: did it not prompt you to correct the form?
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# [16:02] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I think it just does "Access denied"
# [16:02] <edmorley> nice UX :-/
# [16:02] <JesperHansen> edmorley: no, just gave me a "nono, you cant access this bug". Then I... did something
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# [16:03] <JesperHansen> I'll just remake it
# [16:03] <JesperHansen> without the blocking bug id
# [16:03] <edmorley> JesperHansen: sorry
# [16:03] <JesperHansen> edmorley: You've more than made up for it already :)
# [16:03] <NeilAway> glandium: last time I deleted them from my srcdir they got recreated in my srcdir :s
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# [16:05] <NeilAway> glandium: 11 days ago
# [16:06] <glandium> NeilAway: weird
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# [16:08] <givanica> jbuck: most of them , but not all. So anyone know who's : Sheppy or Teoli , because I can't find their IRC
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# [16:15] <JesperHansen> edmorley: :jlebar
# [16:15] <JesperHansen> edmorley: 739588*
# [16:15] <JesperHansen> hate my copy sometimes
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# [16:19] <edmorley> JesperHansen: thanks, looks good :-) (have added the regression bug to the blocks list)
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# [16:21] <JesperHansen> edmorley: I tried to do a testcase with a normal 303 redirect, but that didn't break firefox. So it must just be that submit function.... I should minify the testcase
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# [16:22] <nemo> Hixie: so. just wondering. why novalidate instead of validate="no" ?
# [16:23] <nemo> Hixie: if it was validate="no" then you could have formvalidate="yes" as an override in a button
# [16:23] <nemo> not to mention seems odd to embed the state into the name...
# [16:24] <nemo> almost like someone doesn't like the fact that attributes are key/value
# [16:24] <edmorley> JesperHansen: if you do get a chance to do that, bz/jlebar would love you :-)
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# [16:29] <edmorley> mak: hate to say it, but looks like you have orange on 033512dd3678
# [16:30] <mak> uh
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# [16:34] <mak> edmorley: yeah, too many braces
# [16:34] <mak> running the fix locally
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# [16:47] <firebot> Ms2ger: told givanica
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# [16:50] <@khuey> hmm
# [16:50] <@khuey> USER6708 doesn't like me very much
# [16:50] <JesperHansen> khuey: o, you too?
# [16:50] <jbuck> I think it spammed everyone online
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> icorps?
# [16:50] <froydnj> oh good, I thought it was just me
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> Or ircops?
# [16:51] <dumitru> I think it's been already taken care of
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# [16:51] <mak> khuey: not just you
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# [16:52] <@khuey> I thought I was special for a minute there
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> Hah
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> You're unique, khuey
# [16:52] <mak> no doubt
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# [16:54] <Ms2ger> peterv, ping
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# [17:10] <froydnj> hm, looks like a good chunk of the warnings on a Linux build are from cairo
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# [17:26] <@khuey> glandium: vtable isn't defined means I missed some of the virtual functions on the class, right?
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# [17:27] <glandium> khuey: i'm missing context
# [17:27] <@khuey> I'm getting a vtable for Foo isn't defined error when linking libxul
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# [17:28] <@khuey> and yeah, it was because the class declared a virtual dtor but didn't implement it
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# [17:28] <glandium> khuey: yeah, missing virtual function causes that
# [17:29] <@khuey> very helpful error message :-P
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# [17:39] <@smaug> mercurial or diff
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# [17:44] <@smaug> ok, this is so crazy patch that it is worth to try it
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# [17:45] <NeilAway> glandium: sorry, was busy... it was m-c
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# [17:45] <@smaug> hsivonen will probably kick me
# [17:46] <NeilAway> hey, who's the op around here ;-)
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# [17:48] <Metapioca> Does reftest have an option to run through xvfb ?
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# [17:49] <Metapioca> So that it doesn't go to the current display
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# [18:03] <espindola> how do I finalize a query created with
# [18:03] <espindola> <query>
# [18:03] <espindola> ?
# [18:03] <espindola> i.e., how do I access it from js?
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# [18:04] <@smaug> espindola: what query ?
# [18:04] <espindola> we are leaking one in test_bug476634.xul
# [18:04] <@smaug> ah, xul query
# [18:05] <@smaug> you need Enn :)
# [18:05] <espindola> ?
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# [18:06] <@smaug> espindola: if you have questions about xul:templates, you need Enn
# [18:06] <@smaug> who is not here atm
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# [18:06] <espindola> ah :-)
# [18:06] <espindola> thanks
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# [18:06] <@smaug> MDN might have some documentation
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# [18:07] <@smaug> espindola: ^
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# [18:08] <espindola> smaug, thanks
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# [18:27] <espindola> smaug, do you know Enn's bugmail?
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# [18:28] <@smaug> firebot: Enn
# [18:28] <firebot> smaug: enn is Neil Deakin, XUL master, mailto:enndeakin@gmail.com
# [18:28] <@smaug> espindola: ^
# [18:28] <espindola> thanks
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# [18:33] <dumitru> hi ircop gavin
# [18:33] <dumitru> Y U HILIGHT ME AGAIN??
# [18:33] <reed> hi ircop dumitru!
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# [18:33] <dumitru> hahaha
# [18:33] <reed> hi ircop gavin!
# [18:33] <dumitru> hi ircop reed
# [18:33] <gavin> this has been a test of the emergency ircop system
# [18:33] <dumitru> how is your ircop morning ?
# [18:34] <froydnj> keep calm and carry on
# [18:34] <reed> it's full of red hilights
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# [18:34] <dumitru> :)
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# [18:35] <reed> mmm, bed so warm
# [18:35] <reed> don't want to get up
# [18:35] <gavin> TMI
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# [18:36] <reed> lol
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# [18:36] <@dolske> mmm, cat so warm, etc ect etc tmi. ;)
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# [18:37] <jhammel> mmmm.....cat....
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# [18:41] <Callek> philor: is |WARNING (robocop): zip file not as expected: There is no item named 'bin/robocop.apk' in the archive (("There is no item named 'bin/robocop.apk' in the archive",))| a <s>orange</s> purple bug you know about?
# [18:41] <@smaug> hsivonen: ping
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# [18:41] * Callek is looking at tegra fails for the foopy his changes landed on
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# [18:48] <philor> Callek: is that immediately before a "process killed by signal 15"?
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# [18:49] <glandium> jlebar|mac: victory. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0a12a84e0660 there's one orange on osx64 opt that i have no idea where it comes from, though
# [18:49] <philor> I've never known whether the message was actually related, but I doubt it, just 660480 as far as I'm concerned
# [18:49] <Callek> it was immediately before a situation where things are disco'ed
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# [18:49] <jlebar|mac> glandium++
# [18:50] <Callek> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10406248&tree=Fx-Team&full=1
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# [18:50] <jlebar|mac> glandium: Attempted to register zone more than once?
# [18:50] <GPHemsley> Silly question... is there a way to create/test mochitests without having to build the full browser?
# [18:50] <jlebar|mac> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1538324
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# [18:50] <GPHemsley> (I've been editing omni.ja for my development up until this point)
# [18:50] <Jesse> Timestamp: 3/27/12 9:42:51 AM
# [18:50] <Jesse> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "An attempt was made to use an object that is not, or is no longer, usable" code: "11" nsresult: "0x8053000b (InvalidStateError)" location: "http://browserquest.mozilla.org/js/game.js Line: 1"]
# [18:50] <glandium> jlebar|mac: oh, i missed that
# [18:51] * Callek is mostly looking for "did things get worse, or is there any problems caused by his code" atm :-)
# [18:51] <philor> Callek: bug 711725 - best to wait for things to settle down a little, touching foopies leads to dozens of that
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# [18:52] <philor> or "doing things" - nobody has ever really told me exactly what they were doing at the exact time that a dozen disconnected
# [18:52] <Callek> philor: ahh ok, likely related to that then -- since more than one tegra failed with that error
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# [19:02] <froydnj> philor|away: what is the a;r tbpl annotation stand for? android;retriggered?
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# [19:09] <jdm> does anyone know if we bug people about any flag request that's >1 week old, or just review?
# [19:09] <jdm> if the latter, we should probably expand that to feedback as well
# [19:10] <NeilAway> !seen tbsaunde
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# [19:10] <firebot> tbsaunde was last seen 24 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying 'aaronlev_: that might be useful' in #accessibility.
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# [19:21] <philor> froydnj: exactly
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# [19:22] <philor> we have cycles where we decide we want me to stfu, and then we decide we want me to tell us whether or not thing happen and how often, and at the moment we're in a stfu cycle
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# [19:24] <espindola> azakai, ping
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# [19:24] <azakai> espindola: pong
# [19:24] <espindola> in the test of pr12351
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# [19:24] <espindola> where is @_ZN22ThemeCharacterInstance11changeStateERKNSt3__112basic_stringIcNS0_11char_traitsIcEENS0_9allocatorIcEEEEb
# [19:24] <espindola> ?
# [19:25] <espindola> azakai, sorry, nevermind, artifact or running llvm-extract
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# [19:25] <azakai> espindola: ok. code should all be in there. thanks for checking this out
# [19:25] <froydnj> philor: thanks
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# [19:29] <edmorley> philor: gotta love consistency :-)
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# [19:35] <glandium> mounir: pong
# [19:35] <mounir> glandium: issue solved actually
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# [19:37] <philor> mmm, I like josh's 10.7 reftest failures on aurora
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# [19:38] <philor> apparently the problem is that there's a speck of dust on the lens of the camera that takes the picture of the reference image :)
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# [19:44] <espindola> azakai, I reduced it a bit. Will try to debug it for real after lunch
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# [19:44] <espindola> thanks for the testcase!
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# [19:44] <philor> the real explanation is something about reusing a canvas, but that's less fun
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# [19:44] <azakai> espindola: np, and thanks for looking at it so quickly :)
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# [19:53] <Mossop> What is gkmedias.dll?
# [19:54] <glandium> Mossop: a library containing all libraries from media/, as well as ANGLE, so that we can successfully link xul.dll on windows with pgo
# [19:54] <hsivonen> smaug: pong
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# [19:55] <gavin> Mossop: iirc that's what the codec code was split into when we needed to reduce libxul
# [19:55] <gavin> 's size
# [19:55] <@smaug> hsivonen: now I should remember what I was going to ask...
# [19:55] <gavin> also because we don't ever really need to load it during startup
# [19:55] <Mossop> glandium: Someone in the newsgroups is saying they have to copy that alongside the xulrunner-stub to make their xulrunner app work :(
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# [19:55] <gavin> oh
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# [19:56] <glandium> Mossop: that doesn't sound right
# [19:56] <Optimizer> how ot do this : gavin missed glandium's answer ?
# [19:56] <glandium> Mossop: normally, only xul.dll requires it
# [19:56] <Mossop> No, not what I saw when I was testing either
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# [19:59] <hsivonen> smaug: how did you decide on 7 as the magic number of ops for "tiny" tasks?
# [19:59] <hsivonen> smaug: 7 seems too tiny
# [19:59] <@smaug> it is just random
# [19:59] <hsivonen> smaug: ok
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# [19:59] <@smaug> hsivonen: I'm playing around with the patch
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# [20:00] <@smaug> hsivonen: right now I'm testing whether parser could use timer
# [20:00] <@smaug> and not runnables
# [20:01] <@smaug> hsivonen: btw, why is that too low?
# [20:02] <@smaug> hsivonen: I'd like parser to block event loop very short time
# [20:02] <@smaug> like 5ms or less
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# [20:04] <hsivonen> smaug: it means lots of overhead for every 7 tags/text runs
# [20:04] <froydnj> wow, we get clobbered on the v8 benchmarks
# [20:04] <hsivonen> smaug: what's the problem with runnables?
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# [20:05] <@smaug> hsivonen: they happen too often :)
# [20:05] <@smaug> they are too fast
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# [20:06] <@smaug> hsivonen: again, I'm still just playing around with different things
# [20:06] <@bsmedberg> glandium/khuey: doesn't gkmedias.dll need to be in dependentlibs.list?
# [20:06] <@bsmedberg> That seems to be necessary for the glue to work correctly for webapprt, for example
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# [20:08] <hsivonen> smaug: if there's work to be done, no point in idling
# [20:09] <hsivonen> smaug: so while it makes sense to let the event loop spin, letting stuff wait on a clock doesn't make sense to me
# [20:09] <@smaug> hsivonen: except that we're faster at handling user input if we're idling
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# [20:09] <@smaug> but, it is possible that this approach doesn't work too well :)
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# [20:13] <@khuey> edmorley: have we merged inbound recently?
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# [20:14] <edmorley> khuey: mak did ~ 6 hrs ago
# [20:14] <@khuey> ok
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# [20:16] <glandium> bsmedberg: it shouldn't be needed
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# [20:16] <glandium> but i could be wrong
# [20:17] <@bsmedberg> glandium: why not? people keep reporting that it can't be found when they are launching using the xulrunner stub (or webapprt)
# [20:17] <@bsmedberg> that is, when the launching executable is not in the same directory as gkmedias.sll
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# [20:19] <@khuey> edmorley: what's your email address?
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# [20:19] <edmorley> / msg'd :-)
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# [20:20] <avih> can someone please commit a patch for me? it's been r+ yesterday, and i was hoping to get it into aurora too.. so time is (kinda) of the essence... bug 737758
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# [20:21] <jwir3> avih: I can do it for you
# [20:21] <jwir3> avih: Has it been approved for aurora?
# [20:21] <avih> jwir3: thx. not yet.
# [20:21] <avih> just m-c for now
# [20:21] <jwir3> ok
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# [20:23] <avih> Also, i've seen one bug approved for aurora (736251), but it wasn't me arguing for it. Is there a page describing what should one do to ask commit to aurora?
# [20:24] <@smaug> hsivonen: still there?
# [20:24] <hsivonen> smaug: yes
# [20:24] <@smaug> hsivonen: do you have any educated guesses what the value could be, if not 7
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# [20:24] <@smaug> it is like 100 or more+
# [20:24] <avih> brb
# [20:24] <@smaug> s/+/?/
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# [20:25] <hsivonen> smaug: 100 seems large to me, but I don't really know
# [20:25] <@smaug> ok
# [20:25] <@smaug> I'll try something...
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# [20:25] <hsivonen> smaug: I suggest measuring how many units of time it takes per op on average
# [20:26] <jwir3> avih: You need to edit the patch details, and under "approval-mozilla-aurora" select "?". Then, in the comment, explain why you think it needs to go into aurora.
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# [20:27] <avih> jwir3: oh, i saw when jaws asked for one, it he seemed to use "fields" such as "user impact if declined", "tested" etc..
# [20:27] <jwir3> avih: Yeah, it puts that into the comment field automatically when you change approval-aurora to ?.
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# [20:28] <jwir3> avih: Then you can just answer those queries and RM will review it (probably akeybl)
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# [20:28] <avih> RM ==?
# [20:28] <jaws> release management
# [20:28] <avih> ok
# [20:28] <avih> i'll do that after the patch is committed then. thx :)
# [20:29] <avih> jwir3: i should probably download and rebuild aurora for it, and test it, right?
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# [20:30] <jwir3> avih: Yeah, that's a good idea. Depends on who's checking it in. I always download the patch and rebuild, just to be sure.
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# [20:30] <jwir3> But, if you want to be nice to your committer, then, yes. :)
# [20:30] <avih> i usually take responsibility for my code, so, i should probably do that first ;)
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# [20:31] <avih> brb
# [20:31] <jwir3> avih: I'm building your code now, just to double-check, that's what's taking a bit.
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# [20:34] <jlebar|mac> smaug: new Event() doesn't work.
# [20:35] <@smaug> jlebar|mac: new somewindow.Event();
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# [20:38] <@khuey> there should be one day of the week where all patches that touch configure have to land
# [20:38] <jlebar|mac> smaug: yay, thanks.
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# [20:42] <jwir3> khuey: Saturday.
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# [20:44] <avih> jwir3: are you building it on OSX/Linux by any chance?
# [20:44] <jwir3> avih: Linux
# [20:44] <jwir3> avih: Ubuntu 11.04
# [20:45] <bjacob> can someone please explain the JS exception i'm getting here:
# [20:45] <bjacob> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bjacob_mozilla.com/webgl-perf-tests/raw-file/43025e3ba686/webgl-performance-tests.html
# [20:45] <@smaug> hmm, should I review something today...
# [20:45] <hsivonen> smaug: yes! :-)
# [20:45] <bjacob> "Illegal operation on WrappedNative prototype object"
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# [20:45] <@smaug> hsivonen: jlebar|mac: looks like so
# [20:46] <avih> jwir3: ok, could you please just verify that it does what it should? I only tested on windows. On linux it should change smooth scroll animation duration for mouse wheel, from 150ms to 200ms-400ms (400ms for a single roll "click")
# [20:46] <avih> (200ms for continuous roll)
# [20:47] <jwir3> avih: Sure, I can test that. Is there a script to detect exactly how much time it should take? (Sorry, I just don't know how exactly to guage it)
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# [20:49] <avih> jwir3: not that i know of, but a good enough verification is that it disables smooth scroll for the mouse wheel when you set general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel to false
# [20:50] <avih> jwir3: essentially, this means that mouse wheel event is propagated properly (and wasn't prior to this patch on OSX/Linux)
# [20:50] <jwir3> avih: ok. I'll test it as soon as I'm done compiling.
# [20:50] <avih> k, thx.
# [20:51] <avih> jwir3: also, if you'd like some fun, and further verification, set general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMaxMS to 1000, it should be more noticeable.
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# [21:03] <sourabh912> jaws:hi
# [21:03] <jaws> hi sourabh912
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# [21:07] <sourabh912> jaws:i studied the full screen code written in browser.js file and i think it shows how the browser works in full screen mode independent of any theme or design.so i want to ask where do we need to make changes in the browser.js file?
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# [21:07] <jaws> sourabh912: probably migrating current XUL layouts to the new one
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# [21:08] <@smaug> taras is away... who else is active in Snappy
# [21:08] <Optimizer> sourabh912: are you already selected for that google summer project ?
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# [21:09] <sourabh912> optimizer:not yet .....
# [21:09] <jaws> Optimizer: we haven't made a selection yet
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# [21:09] <lmandel> smaug: I may be able to help with Snappy. What do you need?
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# [21:09] <@smaug> lmandel: just wondering if we have any tools to check how much "jank" background tabs are causing
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# [21:11] <sourabh912> optimizer:are you too interested in the same project?
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# [21:12] <Optimizer> sourabh912: kind of ..
# [21:12] <lmandel> smaug: I don't know if there is something specific to background tabs but are you using about:bank?
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# [21:12] <lmandel> er, about:jank
# [21:13] <@smaug> well, a problem with about:jank is that it causes itself jank-ness
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# [21:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aa0f1e5fcf00 - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 739680 - onsettingchange is not called when the setting is changed inside another window r=fabrice
# [21:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7290c4f0a150 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 739234 - Deal with the odd case on a desktop computer where the backend error'd out. r=vingtetun
# [21:13] <@smaug> lmandel: but yeah, I've been using it
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# [21:14] <lmandel> smaug: there is also the profiler that BenWa and co have been working on. Not sure that's on all platforms yet.
# [21:14] <BenWa> lmandel: Mac only atm, windows support is coming
# [21:14] <@smaug> BenWa: what about linux?
# [21:15] <BenWa> smaug: It nearly done but it needs a bit of work
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# [21:21] <jwir3> avih: Hmmm... I'm not seeing a difference with any of those properties set
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# [21:22] <avih> jwir3: do you have smooth scrolling enabled?
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# [21:23] <jwir3> avih: Yes. Just Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Use Smooth Scrolling, right?
# [21:23] <avih> jwir3: yes. and does it have smooths scrolling when you use the mouse wheel?
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# [21:24] <avih> jwir3: roll it (NOT click middle button and drag)
# [21:24] <jwir3> avih: Yes.
# [21:24] <jwir3> avih: If I disable smooth scrolling, there is a noticable difference between that and when I enable smoothscrolling and set general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel to false
# [21:24] <avih> ok, and when you set general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel to false, it stll scrolls smoothly?
# [21:24] <jwir3> yes
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# [21:25] <avih> jwir3: that should be enough then. but since you didn't see a difference, just to make sure, please set both general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMaxMS and general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMinMS to, say, 2000
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# [21:26] <jwir3> ok let me try that
# [21:26] <avih> jwir3: do you use a mouse? or touchpad scroll?
# [21:26] <jwir3> mouse
# [21:26] <avih> ok
# [21:26] <jwir3> usb wireless mouse
# [21:26] <avih> ok
# [21:27] <avih> (by default they're 400 and 200, respectively)
# [21:27] <jwir3> avih: yeah, I don't see any difference. :(
# [21:27] <avih> jwir3: this is not encouraging... :/
# [21:28] <jwir3> maybe I set a property wrong? let me take a screenshot
# [21:28] <jwir3> hold on
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# [21:28] <avih> jwir3: set the filter to general.smoothScroll for that screenshot
# [21:28] <jwir3> ok
# [21:28] <avih> thx
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# [21:29] <avih> jwir3: also, that's on updated m-c, yes?
# [21:29] <jwir3> well, I haven't pushed the patch yet. I'm still testing on a local tree
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# [21:31] <avih> yes, ok.
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# [21:31] <jwir3> avih: http://i.imgur.com/jmera.png
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# [21:32] <avih> jwir3: ok, at these settings, mouse wheel smooth scroll should be DISabled, is this the case?
# [21:32] <jwir3> I've tried it with both false and true for that property
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# [21:33] <jwir3> (no difference)
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# [21:34] <avih> jwir3: well, to me that sounds as if it doesn't work on your system... :/
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# [21:34] <avih> jwir3: and when you disable general.smoothScroll.lines, does that make a difference?
# [21:34] <@smaug> bsmedberg: khuey: do you happen to know why nsHashPropertyBag is threadsafe?
# [21:35] <avih> (when global smooth scroll is enabled)
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# [21:35] <@khuey> smaug: why or how?
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# [21:35] <jwir3> avih: Yes, that disables smooth scrolling
# [21:35] <@smaug> khuey: threadsafe addref/release
# [21:36] <jwir3> avih: (or, at least it disables it with my mouse wheel)
# [21:36] <avih> jwir3: i see. well then, at least for linux, that patch didn't do what it should have (should be the same prior to that patch too)
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# [21:36] <@khuey> smaug: right ...
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# [21:37] <avih> jwir3: and you're testing the binary which you compiled with that 3 part patch applied, yes? (sorry, just rechecking)
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# [21:37] <avih> (even if for linux the 1st part should be enough)
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# [21:40] <jwir3> avih: Well, perhaps we can get someone else to take a look at this... dholbert agreed to take a 2nd look
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# [21:41] <avih> jwir3: well.. it's not enough that it works only on some systems ;)
# [21:41] <avih> (but it would still be nice to know if it does)
# [21:41] <jwir3> avih: Well, let's just make sure... it could be something with my config
# [21:41] <jwir3> dholbert is running ubuntu 12.04, I'm a year behind with 11.04
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# [21:42] <dholbert> heh
# [21:42] <dholbert> [rebuilding]
# [21:43] <dholbert> [w/ patches]
# [21:43] <avih> dholbert: thx
# [21:43] <dholbert> np
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# [21:43] <avih> jwir3: i can't think why would that matter...
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# [21:43] <jwir3> avih: (I'm just verifying it's not an issue on this end with user idiocy) :)
# [21:45] <avih> jwir3: well.. it can be that i didn't fix it for linux. i based my code on info which should be pretty good, but maybe something slipped in the way..
# [21:45] <jwir3> avih: It's possible, but it's easier to double-check something is wrong here and now than have you pour over your code only to find out it was my slip-up...
# [21:46] <avih> meh, i should setup a linux build system locally... but very little space left on my HDD (as ever :) )
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# [21:49] <@dbaron> ehsan, sure
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# [21:57] <avih> jwir3: would it be rude to ask you to triple check that the binary you're testing is the one you've compiled? for this patch not to work on linux, it could mean a hack on the linux mouse wheel scroll, which might need addressing as well (the same as part 2 of this patch does for windows). firefox on linux uses gtk2?
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# [21:58] <jwir3> avih: no, that's not rude. I'll double check.
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# [21:58] <avih> thx
# [21:58] <avih> appreciated
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# [22:01] <jwir3> avih: Yeah, sorry... I'm using the correct binary :(
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# [22:02] <avih> jwir3: ok, that was a longshot. but i just had to really be sure. thx, and that's good that we found it now and not after it's in aurora ;)
# [22:02] <jwir3> avih: Agreed.
# [22:02] <jwir3> avih: Let's just wait though before we come to any conclusions until after dholbert sees what he sees on his machine
# [22:02] <dholbert> (still building, sorry)
# [22:02] <jwir3> np
# [22:03] <avih> jwir3: sure, we'll wait, but i still must investigate the case where the patch apparently did nothing.
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# [22:04] <avih> if i can see the code that does it, i can at least know what are the cases at which it doesn't work. right now, i don't know why, and that's not good enough for commit in my book.
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# [22:08] <sourabh912> jaws:you told earlier that xul layouts have to be migrated into new ones .can you please explain it a bit. is this different from what have to be done in browser.css files?. i think browser.css files are meant to apply styles to these layouts
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# [22:09] <dholbert> avih, ok, so what should I try in the patched build?
# [22:10] <dholbert> avih, (build finished)
# [22:10] <avih> dholbert: do you use a mouse with a wheel?
# [22:10] <dholbert> yup
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# [22:10] <avih> ok, is smooth scrolling on? (should be on by default)
# [22:11] <dholbert> avih, I've got planet open as a scrollable page. yup
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# [22:11] <avih> dholbert: ok, disable general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel . this should... disable smooth scrolling for the mouse wheel :)
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# [22:12] <avih> dholbert: this didn't work for jwir3
# [22:12] <dholbert> WFM
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# [22:12] <dholbert> smooth scrolling turned off
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# [22:12] <@smaug> khuey: so, I blame you :) doubles are broken in dictionaries
# [22:12] <dholbert> when I tweaked that pref
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# [22:12] <@khuey> smaug: fun
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# [22:13] <@khuey> smaug: you blame me for being coerced into r+ing it by sicking?
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# [22:13] <dholbert> jwir3, ^ (patch seems to WFM -- turning off "general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel" successfully disables smooth scrolling)
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# [22:13] <avih> dholbert: ok, so it appears to be working on your system. just ot make sure, turn that on again, then set both general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMaxMS and general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMinMS to 2000, see that it becomes way too slow.
# [22:13] <@smaug> khuey: you just happen to be in the room and I need to blame someone :p
# [22:14] <@khuey> ah
# [22:14] <@khuey> ok
# [22:14] <avih> dholbert: only for the mouse wheel, that is.
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# [22:14] <dholbert> avih, that toggles slow craaazy-smooth scrolling
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# [22:14] <avih> dholbert: right. so it works on your system.
# [22:14] <dholbert> woot
# [22:14] <avih> :)
# [22:15] <dholbert> avih, jwir3 and I are watching a presentation at the moment; I'll sanity-check with him afterwards
# [22:15] <avih> but now we have a problem, i can't vouch for that patch when i know it doesn't work for jwir3's system..
# [22:15] <jwir3> avih: yeah it looks like I did something weird, then, so I'll check in with dholbert after the presentation
# [22:15] <avih> dholbert: thankx. much appreciated. could you please port your conclusion at that bug?
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# [22:16] <dholbert> avih, sure
# [22:16] <dholbert> avih, ping me if I forget :)
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# [22:16] <avih> post* (grr :) )
# [22:16] <avih> jwir3: thx to you too :)
# [22:16] <jwir3> np
# [22:16] <avih> dholbert: will do :)
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# [22:16] <avih> k, later now.
# [22:18] <dholbert> avih, later
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# [22:20] <avih> dholbert: I'm removing checkin-needed for now. if your conclusion is that there was some setup error with jwir3, i'll restore it and appreciate a commit.
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# [22:21] <jwir3> avih: sounds good
# [22:21] <avih> thx
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# [22:22] <sourabh912> jaws:there?
# [22:22] <@khuey> smaug: did nsDOMEventTargetHelper::Disconnect go away?
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# [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/273173a592dc - Serge Gautherie - Bug 483992. (Av1) dom-level*-*/DOMTestCase.js: Remove sayrer's override of SimpleTest._logResult(). r=rcampbell.
# [22:23] <jaws> sourabh912: i'm not sure where the migration code would be or if it is necessary. it's just something to keep in mind
# [22:24] <@smaug> khuey: DisconnectFromOwner
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# [22:25] <@khuey> smaug: oh joy, this stuff has changed a lot
# [22:25] <@smaug> khuey: though, what are you doing?
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# [22:25] <@khuey> smaug: adding more stuff that inherits from nsDOMEVentTargetHelper
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# [22:27] <sourabh912> jaws:ok and am i right about browser.css files(used to style the xul layouts) ?
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# [22:28] <jaws> sourabh912: yes
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# [22:35] <sourabh912> jaws:I would like to ask if you could please guide me in preparing the proposal.
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# [22:36] <espindola> azakai, can you try a patch?
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# [22:36] <jwir3> avih: Ok, it looks like we may have figured out what is happening. I'm trying a clobber build now and then I think it'll work
# [22:36] <azakai> espindola: sure - if it's on 3.0 (i can't build with svn)
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# [22:37] <avih> jwir3: i don't know what a clobber build is..
# [22:37] <Bas> avih: Delete your object directory
# [22:37] <jwir3> avih: Complete removal of the objdir and rebuild from scratch
# [22:37] <Bas> And rebuild.
# [22:37] <jaws> sourabh912: sorry, i don't have enough time to help you with that
# [22:37] <avih> so clobber build == clean rebuild?
# [22:38] <jaws> avih: yeha
# [22:38] <jaws> yeah*
# [22:38] <avih> :)
# [22:38] <espindola> azakai, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1538711
# [22:38] <Callek> ATTN: ALL YOUR TALOS JOBS ARE EVIL
# [22:38] <espindola> I think it should apply
# [22:38] <Callek> (ANDROID)
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# [22:39] <Callek> [fix in the works]
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# [22:39] <azakai> espindola: yes, applies. building now
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# [22:46] <jviereck> roc: hi Rob. I'm working on implementing the printCallback stuff. I got stuck at "raverse the child page frame's frame subtree (see FrameChildListIterator and its users)". I find the FrameChildListIterator on mxr, but I can't really figure out how to use it/find where it is used in the code to look up how it is used.
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# [22:47] <jviereck> can you give me a hint what to look for?
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# [22:50] <@roc> see for example the loop in nsLayoutUtils::UnionChildOverflow
# [22:50] <@roc> but don't skip anything
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# [22:52] <azakai> espindola: looks good on the bitcode, building the entire thing now to check how it runs
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# [22:53] <espindola> azakai, awesome!
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# [22:56] <Callek> FYI: android talos reds are likely not your fault right now; I'm starring tons of them right now and will retrigger
# [22:56] <jviereck> roc: guess I have to use recursion on the children again to find all the nested canvas elements?
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# [22:57] <azakai> espindola: works perfectly! thanks! :)
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# [22:58] <@roc> yes, you need to recurse
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# [23:01] <espindola> azakai, awesome! I am going for a run, but will add a patch and email to llvm-commits when I get back.
# [23:01] <azakai> espindola: great
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# [23:08] <imelven> callek: thank you ! :)
# [23:08] <Callek> imelven: for the retrigger?
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# [23:10] <Callek> [Android Talos] inbound starred up/retriggered (will double check a bit later) now to "Firefox"
# [23:10] <imelven> callek: yeah !
# [23:10] <Callek> ps. serge :/
# [23:11] <Callek> I do wish he wouldn't have stopped any jobs
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# [23:14] <@ehsan> dbaron: so... can I rely on the UpdateOverflow hint these days or not?
# [23:14] <@ehsan> not sure what stuff has been backed out
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# [23:14] <@ehsan> and what has remained on m-c
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# [23:22] <@dbaron> ehsan, UpdateOverflow is still there
# [23:22] <@ehsan> ok good
# [23:22] <@dbaron> ehsan, what was backed out was making additional properties use it
# [23:22] <Callek> ehsan: retriggering talos on Profiling for you
# [23:22] <@ehsan> dbaron: so I'm summing up our discussion on the bug
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# [23:22] <dholbert> jmaher|afk, ping
# [23:22] <@ehsan> dbaron: it would be great if you can take a look when I'm done
# [23:23] <@dbaron> ehsan, sure
# [23:23] <@ehsan> Callek: what's up with profiling? I haven't looked at it really
# [23:23] <@ehsan> ty
# [23:23] <Callek> ehsan: well there are red talos jobs from your push today -- due to a ateam bug
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# [23:24] <@ehsan> dbaron: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157681#c57
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# [23:24] <@ehsan> Callek: I see, thanks :)
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# [23:26] <jwir3> avih: I found the problem.
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# [23:26] <jwir3> avih: it was a problem with my build, not your code. it works now
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# [23:27] <jwir3> avih: I'm going to push asap.
# [23:27] <avih> jwir3: good news :) thx
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# [23:28] <dholbert> jwir3, woot
# [23:28] <Carbon> hor bhayo kya chalrya se?
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# [23:28] <jwir3> avih: With your permission, I'm going to change the commit comment to include the reviewers, is that ok?
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# [23:28] <avih> jwir3: sure, still learning the procedures.. :)
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# [23:28] <jwir3> avih: Np. It's just that if it doesn't have an r=<someone>, inbound won't take it. ;)
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# [23:29] <jwir3> avih: The commit comment should be like this:
# [23:29] <jwir3> Bug ######: <Change something> <because/in order to/to/etc...> <reason for change> r=<reviewer>
# [23:29] <jwir3> you basically got it, but just missing the reviewer, so I'll add that
# [23:30] <Carbon> India no koi se ke nah?
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# [23:30] <dholbert> avih, (it might seem presumptuous to include "r=whoever" before it has officially gotten review, but a lot of people add that up-front anyway just for convenience, to avoid needing to post an additional patch with only that changed)
# [23:30] <avih> jwir3: is the "commit comment" the string that i put at hg qrefresh -m "comment" ?
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# [23:30] <dholbert> exactly
# [23:30] <jwir3> yep
# [23:30] <avih> got it.
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# [23:31] <avih> so this patch would also be committed as 3 parts? i thought it was only ot make it easier to review..
# [23:31] <jviereck> roc: I'm not sure about this step: "change [the canvasRenderingContext2D] surface to a new surface created via renderingContext->GetThebes()->CurrentSurface()->CreateSimilarSurface()" << how does this change the current pixel based surface to a vector like surface, such that the draw commands get to the printer directly without getting rastered down to pixels? Reading mxr, the CreateSimilarSurface only takes a color type and size argumen
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# [23:32] <@roc> renderingContext->GetThebes()->CurrentSurface() should be the print surface, i.e. a vector-like surface
# [23:32] <@roc> CreateSimilar should create one just like it
# [23:33] <ehsan_> roc: could you take a look and see whether https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157681#c57 makes sense?
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# [23:33] <jviereck> roc, ahh, take the renderingContext of the printer, not the CanvasRenderingContext, got it, thanks!
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# [23:35] <avih> jwir3: so in a multipart patch, each commit comment should be compete, as if it stands by itself?
# [23:35] <jwir3> Ok, avih - it's been pushed to inbound.
# [23:35] <jwir3> avih: Yes, normally, but it's ok.
# [23:35] <jwir3> avih: They were all pushed together, so it's clear what's going on.
# [23:35] <@roc> ehsan_: it sounds right
# [23:35] <ehsan_> thanks
# [23:36] <jwir3> avih: thanks for the fix!
# [23:36] <avih> jwir3: ok, thanks :) i'll now see what it takes to request for aurora, and build aurora on win/linux for tests..
# [23:36] <avih> :)
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# [23:36] <jwir3> avih: We'll want to watch https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=6442d65f75f6 to make sure the tree doesn't turn red or too much orange that isn't intermittent failures
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# [23:37] <jwir3> avih: I'd wait until the patch gets merged to m-c from inbound, so that the release drivers can verify that it's stable.
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# [23:37] <jwir3> avih: At that time, the bug will be closed as fixed, and then you can request approval for aurora
# [23:37] <avih> jwir3: i've heard these terms before (especially orange and purple iirc), i'm guessing these are warnings/failures/etc at the nightly build?
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# [23:37] <dholbert> avih, per-commit builds, actually
# [23:37] <dholbert> avih, see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [23:38] <jwir3> avih: Yes, so if you look at that link I gave you, the B's mean build, the numbers in R() are reftest sets, and the M()s are mochitests (javascript tests)
# [23:38] <avih> each commit generates its own build??
# [23:38] <jwir3> yes
# [23:38] <avih> cool
# [23:38] <jwir3> avih: On many different platforms
# [23:38] <avih> x2 :P
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# [23:38] <philor> jaws: nice, 163 failures is always my favorite number :)
# [23:39] <dholbert> avih, so if your commit breaks the build (or breaks a test), we'll know who to blame. ;)
# [23:39] <jwir3> avih: Don't get too worried if there are *some* oranges... we have intermittent failures from time to time, but if you have a consistent failure on multiple platforms, or if someone pings either us or you, they may ask you about a particular test
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# [23:39] <avih> dholbert: jwir3? ;)
# [23:39] <jwir3> heh
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# [23:40] <avih> nice to mee tou Scott :)
# [23:40] <avih> meet*
# [23:40] <jwir3> nice to meet you, too, Avi
# [23:40] <avih> :)
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# [23:40] <avih> ok, i'll keep an eye on that link. thx again for the time to test and retest and commit etc :)
# [23:41] <jwir3> np
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# [23:47] <philor> edmorley: still early enough in the day for backing things out?
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# [23:47] <edmorley> jaws: m4 orange
# [23:47] <edmorley> philor: speaking of which :-)
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# [23:49] <edmorley> philor, jaws: back all of them out?
# [23:49] <jaws> edmorley: yeah
# [23:49] <jaws> i don't know which one caused that
# [23:49] <philor> back out ALL THE THINGS
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# [23:50] <jaws> edmorley: are you backing it out or should i?
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# [23:51] <nthomas> gavin++
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# [23:52] <edmorley> jaws: I'm happy to, is effort free with scripts :-)
# [23:53] <jaws> ok thanks edmorley
# [23:53] <edmorley> (sorry delayed response, stupid pidgin froze)
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# [23:53] <Callek> ugh we'll need to do another round of retriggers on m-c at the least
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# [23:55] <edmorley> jaws: ah, actually there are code conflicts, presumably with margaret's landing - is it ok if I leave you to pick them apart, as you know the code better?
# [23:56] <cjones> anyone know if rstrong is around?
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# [23:56] <jaws> edmorley: ok
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# [23:56] <jaws> edmorley: i just pushed all of my patches to try to try to bisect where it was coming from
# [23:57] <jaws> i'll see about tacking on margarets patches
# [23:57] <edmorley> jaws: rejects were in mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js
# [23:57] <edmorley> jaws: thank you :-)
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# [23:57] <jaws> edmorley: this push? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=3a4ed2b028ad
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# [23:58] <edmorley> jaws: that would be my guess yeah
# [23:58] <margaret> jaws: there was a conflict, but the functionality isn't dependent
# [23:59] <margaret> if you want to back it all out, i can re-land a rebased version of my patch
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# [23:59] <cjones> anyone around who can review nsUpdateTimerManager.js patches?
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