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  1. # Session Start: Sat Apr 14 00:00:01 2012
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  5. # [00:01] <bdahl> gregglind: has something changed how you load the page? resource urls have been regular content privilege for awhile
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  12. # [00:02] <gregglind> bdahl, could be. How long is a while? 11? older?
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  15. # [00:03] <bdahl> gregglind: i think older
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  17. # [00:04] <gregglind> bdahl, I am having trouble finding this in bmo, any idea of what this was called?
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  20. # [00:04] <bdahl> gregglind: do you need chrome privileges?
  21. # [00:04] <sheppy> I think 8 maybe or 9.
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  23. # [00:05] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Crossing fingers... https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=770b9aef8f40
  24. # [00:05] <Yoric> Hopefully, this is the last test.
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  26. # [00:07] <jwir3> hm... I can't seem to compile firefox on windows. I haven't tried to do it for a while, but it's giving me an error with nsFilePicker.obj, even if I remove my source tree completely and recomplie. Am I missing a recently modified build prerequisite ?
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  29. # [00:07] <gregglind> bdahl, I do, but I am also trying to figure out when this went bad :) THe testpilot debug pages are built around this. Obv, I can build a new addon to do it. Just trying to diagnose the scope of the problem :)
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  31. # [00:08] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Since I cannot rebuild PGO, can I find somewhere the binaries of a version that crashes?
  32. # [00:09] <mbrubeck> Yoric: Yes, just a second...
  33. # [00:09] <bdahl> gregglind: instead using a resource url just register it as a chrome url
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  35. # [00:10] <mbrubeck> Yoric: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-pgo/1334289601/
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  37. # [00:10] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Thanks
  38. # [00:10] <Yoric> I assume it is compiled for debugging, isn't it?
  39. # [00:10] <gregglind> bdahl, that is a good tip.
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  43. # [00:11] <mbrubeck> Yoric: It should be compiled approximately like our release builds, as far as I know. There are symbols there...
  44. # [00:12] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Not quite sure which one I should download.
  45. # [00:12] <mbrubeck> The actual binary is https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-pgo/1334289601/firefox-14.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
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  50. # [00:13] <Yoric> Thanks.
  51. # [00:13] <Yoric> I'll use this to try and reproduce the bug.
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  78. # [00:37] <jbuck> hm. anyone else getting a 403 on http://nightly.mozilla.org/ ?
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  80. # [00:39] <mimcpher> I just get "Zeus is alive" on that domain.
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  83. # [00:39] <mimcpher> Now I can't connect
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  86. # [00:39] <mimcpher> And now I get the regular page.
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  99. # [00:45] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Actually, I will probably get that much-needed sleep now and wait until Monday for a more in-depth debugging session.
  100. # [00:46] <Yoric> In any case, I need to find out how to run my xpcshell tests with this binary.
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  103. # [00:46] <bsmith> Does the Platform product have a code review document like Toolkit/Firefox?: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Code_Review
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  105. # [00:47] <Yoric> But, well, my workday has started about 15h ago, and there is only so much blind debugging I can do in one day :)
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  107. # [00:48] <gregglind> bdahl, problem was me, calling it as chrome:// fixed it. me foolish :)
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  111. # [00:53] <mounir> anant: pong
  112. # [00:53] <anant> mounir: unping, sorry, I found someone else to answer my question :)
  113. # [00:54] <mounir> anant: ok, good
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  117. # [00:56] <NeilAway> who did html progress meters?
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  128. # [01:00] <mbrubeck> NeilAway: mounir, I think
  129. # [01:00] <jst> yes
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  131. # [01:01] <NeilAway> mounir: does html do indeterminate progress meters? how do they get drawn?
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  133. # [01:01] <mbrubeck> yes, it does - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/progress
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  136. # [01:02] <anant> I cannot get m-c to compile on Mac OS 10.7 with Xcode 4.2. Is this a supported configuration?
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  138. # [01:02] <mbrubeck> NeilAway: With platform-dependent rendering, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=665368
  139. # [01:02] <anant> It fails with gcc, clang and llvm, I have tried all 3 with fresh objdirs
  140. # [01:02] <reuben> what's the error you're getting? I'm in a very similar setup and it works fine
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  142. # [01:04] <mounir> NeilAway: html does indeterminate <progress>
  143. # [01:04] <NeilAway> mounir: yes, I was reading mbrubeck's bug
  144. # [01:04] <mounir> NeilAway: what do you mean for drawing? It's using widget code
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  146. # [01:04] <NeilAway> mounir: where does the 100%-full progress bar come from?
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  148. # [01:04] <mounir> NeilAway: the layout set the size to 100% and the widget shows the native indeterminate rendering
  149. # [01:05] <NeilAway> mounir: where is that done in layout?
  150. # [01:05] <mounir> NeilAway: nsProgressFrame.cpp
  151. # [01:05] <mounir> in layout/forms/
  152. # [01:07] <NeilAway> mounir: ah, so for indeterminate you skip the size *= position?
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  157. # [01:10] <mounir> yes
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  165. # [01:15] <NeilAway> mounir: ok, I think I'd like XUL progressmeters to do that too
  166. # [01:16] <mounir> NeilAway: or use the html elemnet in xul ;)
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  170. # [01:19] <NeilAway> mounir: can't, it's not themeable :-P
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  174. # [01:20] <NeilAway> glandium++
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  210. # [01:52] <@roc> for some reason, now when I make in 'layout' and 'toolkit/library', it also makes in 'widget' :-(
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  215. # [01:58] <gavin> blame glandium!
  216. # [01:59] <gavin> roc: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2544
  217. # [01:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/55e7efcc1946 - Honza Bambas - Bug 744887 - Build error: nsFilePicker.cpp(227) : error C2065: 'nsPIDOMWindow' : undeclared identifier, r=jmathies
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  220. # [02:00] <jwir3> thanks, mayhemer__
  221. # [02:00] <jwir3> (that bug was causing me difficulty. :> )
  222. # [02:00] <mayhemer__> jwir3: np :)
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  249. # [02:22] <@roc> gavin: that doesn't describe my bug
  250. # [02:22] <gavin> roc: I'm assuming it's the cause of your bug
  251. # [02:23] <@roc> ok, sure
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  297. # [02:47] <philor> jduell: dteller@mozilla.com, though :yoric works fine
  298. # [02:47] <jduell> philor: thnx
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  306. # [02:55] <bsmith> What was the first version of Firefox that we compiled with VS2010? 12?
  307. # [02:55] <philor> I'd bet on 11
  308. # [02:56] <edmorley> 13, bug 563318
  309. # [02:57] <Callek> first one we tried to, or first one we plan on shipping with?
  310. # [02:57] <Callek> bsmith: ^
  311. # [02:57] <Callek> edmorley: is right if you mean shipping
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  313. # [03:00] <bsmith> Callek philor edmorley: Thanks. I am trying to figure out if the change in compiler might have caused a change in structure padding or something that might be resulting in disk cache corruption
  314. # [03:00] <bsmith> in FF 12
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  316. # [03:01] <Callek> bsmith: so yea if thats FF12 on aurora or beta on win, then its not a compiler change
  317. # [03:01] <bsmith> OK Thanks.
  318. # [03:01] <Callek> we did switch briefly on 12 on trunk iirc
  319. # [03:01] <Callek> but we switched back
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  321. # [03:01] <bsmith> I guess it could be if the user is alternating between 13a and 12b on the same profile
  322. # [03:02] <Callek> I have no idea how "disk cache" woks to know how it invalidates
  323. # [03:02] <Callek> so no abil for me to comment on that theory
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  325. # [03:03] <bsmith> I will investigate it. If the padding between structure members is different, thren reading/writing structs will result in quite strange effects
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  447. # [04:17] <darktrojan> file a bug, set it to blocker
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  453. # [04:22] <@bz> eh
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  461. # [04:30] <Mossop> I hate trying to get sed expressions right :(
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  467. # [04:33] <ekw> Can someone help me push bug 724841 to try server? It's my first patch so I don't have access.
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  469. # [04:36] <jbuck> ekw: sure
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  473. # [04:38] <ekw> jbuck: thanks!
  474. # [04:38] <jbuck> ekw: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c6ef72f5f196
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  477. # [04:39] <jbuck> noooo I forgot to set no email again
  478. # [04:40] <ekw> what happens if you don't?
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  480. # [04:42] <@bz> you get email
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  482. # [04:43] <@bz> figure ~100 of them
  483. # [04:43] <@bz> if the patch is not broken
  484. # [04:43] <@bz> more if it is
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  486. # [04:51] <gps> bz: I /think/ you might be able to help me with bug 745345
  487. # [04:51] <gps> I'm just looking for someone to review parts of that patch
  488. # [04:52] <gps> it's not Friday night urgent :)
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  490. # [04:53] <@bz> um
  491. # [04:53] <@bz> which part of it?
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  493. # [04:54] <gps> the content interaction bits
  494. # [04:54] <gps> sandboxes, uriloader
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  497. # [04:55] <@bz> ,mmm
  498. # [04:55] <@bz> ok, I can look
  499. # [04:55] <@bz> but yes, not tonight
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  501. # [04:55] <gps> no worries!
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  503. # [04:57] <gps> thanks a bunch. if you want to punt, just tell me who to (I have no clue)
  504. # [04:57] * @bz neithre
  505. # [04:57] <@bz> er, neither
  506. # [04:58] <sheppy> Is there any chance we have a built-in service somewhere for taking hard-to-read HTML and cleaning it up?
  507. # [04:58] <sheppy> I can use a library for it but if we have one already, why bother? :)
  508. # [04:58] <@bz> roundtripping through DOMParser and a serializer?
  509. # [04:59] <sheppy> Hm.
  510. # [05:00] <sheppy> That oughta work. Thanks.
  511. # [05:01] <Mossop> That would still keep a lot of the bad whitespace right? (and also throw away potentially useful whitespace in the middle of start tags)
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  515. # [05:04] <sheppy> Hm. Maybe. Worth an experiment though, since it wouldn't take long.
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  558. # [06:34] <Mark_Capella> something like http://tools.arantius.com/tabifier ?
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  685. # [10:51] <@smaug> Not nice: ../../gdb/dwarf2read.c:13789: internal-error: follow_die_offset: Assertion `dwarf2_per_objfile->reading_partial_symbols' failed.
  686. # [10:51] <@smaug> A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
  687. # [10:52] <@smaug> how can I debug this problem...
  688. # [10:52] <@smaug> in FF
  689. # [10:52] <@smaug> if GDB crashes
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  691. # [10:54] <Ms2ger> gdb gdb ./firefox?
  692. # [10:55] <nigelb> that doesn't sound convoluted at all.
  693. # [10:55] * @smaug tries gcc build
  694. # [10:56] <@smaug> I guess clang could do something which gdb doesn't expect
  695. # [10:56] <@smaug> I really should stop using clang
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  711. # [11:28] <Yoric> What does firefox-14.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tests.zip contain, exactly?
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  713. # [11:28] * Yoric would like to run tests on a nightly build that he cannot build on his machine.
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  725. # [11:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b79c787bc18b - Tim Taubert - Bug 721442 - [New Tab Page] Display the URL of the page on mouseover of thumbnails on about:newtab; r=dietrich
  726. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e89cf2062b31 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
  727. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ae940000a826 - Tim Taubert - Bug 740807 - Clean up favicon code in Panorama; r=dietrich
  728. # [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fc693ba6ce24 - Tim Taubert - Bug 744152 - [Page Thumbnails] Capture thumbnails only for the selected tab; r=dietrich
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  750. # [12:31] <gaston> meh tbpl fails to load my try run from yesterday...
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  753. # [12:32] <mak> gaston: it's not loading for me too
  754. # [12:32] <mak> some network issue
  755. # [12:34] <gaston> ah, good to know, i though it had already been thrown out :)
  756. # [12:34] <gaston> hg.m.o says service unavailable too, so i guess its more general :)
  757. # [12:35] <mak> gaston: yeah http://status.mozilla.com/
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  766. # [12:51] * zzzzz_ damn, thought they moved that to the new data-center - not any better than the old one :P
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  777. # [13:10] <Yoric> I am attempting to run xpcshell tests manually and I get "failed to get nsJSRuntimeService!"
  778. # [13:10] <Yoric> Any idea what I am missing?
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  780. # [13:11] <mak> what does manually mean?
  781. # [13:11] <Yoric> I have downloaded stuff from the TryServer.
  782. # [13:12] <Yoric> Actually from inbound: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-pgo/1334289601/
  783. # [13:12] <Yoric> I have unpacked everything.
  784. # [13:12] <mak> ah, hm, not sure then I don't think I tried doing that from quite some time
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  786. # [13:12] <Yoric> And I am launching LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/Downloads/tests/firefox python xpcshell/runxpcshelltests.py bin/xpcshell xpcshell/tests/toolkit/components/ctypes/tests/unit/
  787. # [13:12] <Yoric> Problem being that I cannot build Linux64 PGO binaries on my system, so I have no choice.
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  790. # [13:18] <Yoric> Ok, copy&paste from the logs seems to work better :)
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  796. # [13:21] <Yoric> Next step is finding a way to attach a gdb.
  797. # [13:22] <mak> interactive?
  798. # [13:22] <mak> there should be a command line option as it exists for make
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  801. # [13:23] <mak> Yoric: try --interactive
  802. # [13:27] <Yoric> I'm toying with this atm.
  803. # [13:27] <Yoric> But now, time for lunch.
  804. # [13:27] <Yoric> Thanks, mak
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  821. # [14:09] <Yoric> mak: Ok, I have succeeded at attaching gdb.
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  834. # [14:24] <glandium> Yoric: you can also use --debugger=gdb (iirc)
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  837. # [14:27] <cers> mak: ping
  838. # [14:27] <mak> cers: hi
  839. # [14:28] <cers> mak: hey - do you happen to know if any changes has happened to livemarks over the last weeks? seems like they are completely broken (on mac at least) in the last nightly (not sure when it happened)
  840. # [14:28] <mak> hm, nope, I use them everyday
  841. # [14:28] <cers> huh
  842. # [14:29] <mak> though, I have a broken livemark to planet firefox...
  843. # [14:29] <mak> ehr nope, today works
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  845. # [14:29] <mak> everything fine here, afaict
  846. # [14:30] <cers> the symptoms here are: 1) even when loaded, still displays "Live Bookmark Loading..." 2) clicking anything but "Open <feed>" does nothing (but close the menu)
  847. # [14:30] <mak> cers: os x?
  848. # [14:30] <cers> yeah
  849. # [14:30] <mak> native menubar?
  850. # [14:30] <cers> correct again
  851. # [14:30] <mak> then I just pushed the fix to inbound!
  852. # [14:31] <mak> though has always been broken (from the new implementation on)
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  854. # [14:31] <mak> now trying to make a limited patch for Aurora, btw could be fixed from monday's nightly
  855. # [14:31] <cers> really? when we did the new icon stuff (which only landed in the new implementation, right?) it used to work here
  856. # [14:32] <mak> quite strange, btw sometimes it works, soemtimes doesn't, depend on when you click... it's a native menubar problem
  857. # [14:32] <cers> sometimes it would be a bit slow to figure out it had updated, but once they were actually showed, it would work
  858. # [14:32] * darktrojan wonders what's meant by "native menubar"
  859. # [14:32] <mak> darktrojan: the menubar
  860. # [14:32] <darktrojan> is it ever non-native?
  861. # [14:33] <mak> darktrojan: sorry, I call it native in the sense it's the OS menubar and not a menu we have in the app
  862. # [14:33] <cers> darktrojan: the os x universal thing that just changes content to fit the active window
  863. # [14:33] <cers> that thing probably has a name actually :-P
  864. # [14:33] <mak> darktrojan: well, the user may mean the bookmarks menu button, or he may have a tweak adding the appmenu... so I must be sure to distinguish
  865. # [14:34] <darktrojan> k
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  867. # [14:34] <mak> cers: so, if from monday on you should still see issues, please let me know. on Aurora unfortunately I won't fix the "loading" menuitem but that's a minor annoyance
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  869. # [14:35] <cers> mak: sure thing
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  871. # [14:35] <cers> (also, apparently, it's just called "menu bar" in os x - no fancy name)
  872. # [14:35] <mak> yeah
  873. # [14:36] <darktrojan> how controversial
  874. # [14:36] <mak> linux though can be configured to have the menubar in the app or global (some de at least)
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  876. # [14:36] <mak> so one should be able to distinguish those when talking
  877. # [14:36] <mak> menu bar won't be enough
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  885. # [14:45] <mak> cers: you can cc to Bug 741506.
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  887. # [14:45] <cers> mak: done, thanks :-)
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  895. # [14:53] <NeilAway> mak, bah, is that another thing we have to port, or is that a core fix?
  896. # [14:54] <mak> NeilAway: you have to port that, it's a workaround cause native menubar popups are so broken
  897. # [14:54] <mak> (don't have a frame, don't live-update and so on)
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  916. # [15:07] <Ms2ger> mak, is the tree clear?
  917. # [15:07] <mak> yes
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  923. # [15:16] <Yoric> mak: glandium: Thanks for your help.
  924. # [15:16] <Yoric> I think that I have found the bug (at least the part of it that touches my code).
  925. # [15:16] <Yoric> Looks like the gc has a different behavior on Linux 64bit PGO and on other platforms.
  926. # [15:19] <Ms2ger> That sounds scary
  927. # [15:20] <Yoric> Indeed.
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  929. # [15:20] <Yoric> Note that the PGO version does not look wrong, just different.
  930. # [15:21] <Yoric> I will run more checks.
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  933. # [15:22] <Yoric> Do you want to know the really scary part?
  934. # [15:23] <Yoric> If I place an (empty) loop in my function, garbage-collection collects all the dereferenced values before entering the loop.
  935. # [15:23] <Ms2ger> jwatt++
  936. # [15:23] <Yoric> If I do not place that loop, garbage-collection only collects 99/100 values before entering the loop, and the last one at the end of the test.
  937. # [15:23] <jwatt> Ms2ger: hmm?
  938. # [15:24] <Ms2ger> Javadocs
  939. # [15:24] <jwatt> ah
  940. # [15:25] <@smaug> Yoric: js gc ?
  941. # [15:25] <@smaug> Yoric: what is the testcase?
  942. # [15:25] <Yoric> smaug: js gc, indeed
  943. # [15:25] <Yoric> smaug: The testcase is a little too big for the moment.
  944. # [15:26] <@smaug> Yoric: and file a bug and CC billm
  945. # [15:26] <mak> Ms2ger: did you push "some" changesets? it's almost as big as the merge :D
  946. # [15:26] <Yoric> smaug: I will.
  947. # [15:26] <Yoric> Thanks.
  948. # [15:26] <Ms2ger> You've got 44 more than me ;)
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  969. # [15:46] <jdm> jaws: wow, when you submit memes, you don't mess around
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  971. # [15:47] <nigelb> jdm: heh, what'd he do?
  972. # [15:47] <jdm> submitted something like six in a row
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  975. # [15:51] <nigelb> haha
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  978. # [15:54] <Ms2ger> Ah, there we are
  979. # [15:54] <Ms2ger> jdm, who's comparing me to an insane wolf?
  980. # [15:55] <mak> Ms2ger: thanks
  981. # [15:55] <Ms2ger> Np
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  985. # [16:06] <nigelb> Ms2ger: haha.
  986. # [16:06] <nigelb> seems to be jaws.
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  1004. # [16:27] <@smaug> The song of today is Beethoven's 7th symphony, allegretto
  1005. # [16:28] * jdm goes and listens
  1006. # [16:29] <jdm> mmmm, this is superb
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  1008. # [16:31] * c0smikdebris doesnt get classical music
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  1011. # [16:31] <jdm> I just took a course on the baroque period; it was a great decision.
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  1014. # [16:32] <@smaug> (Beethoven didn't live during baroque)
  1015. # [16:33] <c0smikdebris> i'm more of a jazz-fusion guy.
  1016. # [16:33] <c0smikdebris> maybe i should try out more classical music
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  1023. # [16:39] <Yoric> smaug: Filed as bug 745448, btw.
  1024. # [16:40] <@smaug> thanks
  1025. # [16:41] <@smaug> Yoric: can you reproduce the problem in browser?
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  1027. # [16:41] <Yoric> smaug: I have not checked.
  1028. # [16:42] <Yoric> smaug: I can try, if necessary, but probably not today.
  1029. # [16:42] <Yoric> I have already spent most of the night isolating this.
  1030. # [16:43] <@smaug> Yoric: yeah, probably not worth to spend time
  1031. # [16:43] <@smaug> hopefully js devs can sort that all out
  1032. # [16:44] <nigelb> heh, this is awesome http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/21083301809/thats-the-one-that-looks-like-a-pokeball-right
  1033. # [16:45] <@smaug> jdm: if you like baroque music, I would highly recommend Marin Marais
  1034. # [16:45] <jdm> I'll investigate
  1035. # [16:46] <c0smikdebris> where does a newbie start? bach?
  1036. # [16:47] <jdm> c0smikdebris: bach is a good one, along with handel and beethoven.
  1037. # [16:48] <jdm> samuel barber is another favourite of mine
  1038. # [16:49] <c0smikdebris> sweet. will check them out.
  1039. # [16:50] <Yoric> smaug: anway, bhackett's reply is along the lines of "it's not a bug, it's a feature" :)
  1040. # [16:51] <newbie> I really need to fix whatever changes my name back to newbie
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  1089. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> So, why does Windows hate me?
  1090. # [17:53] <@smaug> leak! Could I finally debug this issue
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  1096. # [18:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e1bef8037d36 - Ms2ger - Backing out bf0a78471e5e:dc7022e2d807 for inexplicable windows crashes.
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  1099. # [18:03] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: Have fun figuring out what broke Windows :)
  1100. # [18:04] <Ms2ger> :(
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  1105. # [18:15] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: quickstub stuff in the stacks?
  1106. # [18:16] <Ms2ger> Nope
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  1109. # [18:17] <RyanVM> seeing a lot of xpconnect stuff
  1110. # [18:17] <@smaug> hmm, ok, can I blame sicking
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  1112. # [18:18] <@smaug> or necko
  1113. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> siking
  1114. # [18:20] <Ms2ger> sicking, I should say
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  1118. # [18:27] <jdm> RyanVM: by the way, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Creating_a_patch_that_can_be_checked_in is the wiki page we're using for best practices now (it's a cleaned up version of Marco's blog post).
  1119. # [18:28] <RyanVM> jdm: K. I'd been linking to the mercurial faq page
  1120. # [18:28] <jdm> yes, hence why I contacted you
  1121. # [18:28] <jdm> I'll spend some time making sure they're equivalent at some point
  1122. # [18:29] <RyanVM> thanks
  1123. # [18:29] <RyanVM> also, worth noting that the patch title should be a description of what it does, not the bug title
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  1125. # [18:30] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Worry not, Windows hates everyone.
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  1127. # [18:31] <gcp> jdm: maybe it should say "make sure the patch is reviewed"?
  1128. # [18:32] <RyanVM> Yoric: Hey, at least your patch finally stuck!
  1129. # [18:32] <jdm> gcp: heh, true
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  1146. # [18:43] <nigelb> jdm: lol, http://pulseaudiomemes.tumblr.com/
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  1149. # [18:43] <jdm> they're all coming out of the woodwork
  1150. # [18:43] <jdm> I'm enjoying the qt ones
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  1152. # [18:44] <nigelb> hah, the qt guys are thoruogh
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  1154. # [18:44] <nigelb> green theme and all that
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  1165. # [18:50] <nigelb> haha, they reblogged the yak shaving one :)
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  1177. # [18:57] <@smaug> what happened to printfcstring?
  1178. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg fixed it
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  1180. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> bug 743056
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  1195. # [19:09] <JonathanS> http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/21088867147/if-they-come-back-well-get-them-to-switch-to-pgo creepy
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  1217. # [19:33] <jcranmer> some of our code is literally impossible to compile with -Werror
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  1220. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> Most of it, in fact
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  1222. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> Netwerk, though, is getting close
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  1224. # [19:36] <@smaug> /home/smaug/mozilla/hg/mozilla/accessible/src/atk/nsAccessibleWrap.cpp:738: undefined reference to `nsAccessible::Role()'
  1225. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> \o_
  1226. # [19:36] <@smaug> who broke my build
  1227. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> Are you using clang, still?
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  1229. # [19:37] <@smaug> this is clang
  1230. # [19:37] <@smaug> I switched to gcc for debug
  1231. # [19:37] <Ms2ger> Also, /home/smaug? :)
  1232. # [19:37] <@smaug> perhaps I should dump clang altogether
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  1234. # [19:38] <@smaug> Ms2ger: what is wrong with /home/smaug ?
  1235. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> And can we have someone make windows builds fast?
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  1239. # [19:42] <edmorley> nominate Ms2ger
  1240. # [19:42] <edmorley> :P
  1241. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> Oh hey, it's edmorley
  1242. # [19:43] <edmorley> hi :-)
  1243. # [19:43] <edmorley> how are you?
  1244. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> Good good
  1245. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> You?
  1246. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> (Well, except for Windows)
  1247. # [19:43] <edmorley> ha
  1248. # [19:43] <edmorley> also good
  1249. # [19:44] <edmorley> albeit packing and I hate packing
  1250. # [19:44] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: libmime relies on a loose interpretation of C initializers
  1251. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> Moving?
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  1253. # [19:44] <jcranmer> btw, firebot is going to be tied up for a bit, I think
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  1255. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2bspq1nLc1rrf1eeo1_1280.jpg
  1256. # [19:45] <edmorley> Ms2ger: unpacking from getting back from France late last night, packing for flight tomorrow; typically everything always happens at once
  1257. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> Had a lot of cheese? :)
  1258. # [19:46] <edmorley> ha, yeah as a matter of fact... mmmmm
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  1282. # [20:01] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, do you know if anything is happening to css3-transforms?
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  1301. # [20:25] <@smaug> ok, gcc works
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  1308. # [20:33] <Optimizer> Any idea why the last line in the code : http://mibpaste.com/y7cukn is not working. My script just breaks at that point without giving any error
  1309. # [20:33] * mjschranz_ is now known as mjschranz
  1310. # [20:34] <Optimizer> The key is working fine on its own, and the script also works fine when I comment the last line in the pastebin
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  1312. # [20:35] <NeilAway> aargh
  1313. # [20:36] <NeilAway> bugzillainterdiff--
  1314. # [20:37] <Ms2ger> http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2dshdYeQF1rrf1eeo1_1280.jpg
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  1317. # [20:38] <Optimizer> Can someone help ?
  1318. # [20:38] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
  1319. # [20:38] <Ms2ger> mounir--
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  1321. # [20:38] <Ms2ger> As you insist :)
  1322. # [20:39] <NeilAway> (I already pointed glob to that)
  1323. # [20:39] * NeilAway wonders whether Ms2ger did that just to clear the -- that was pending
  1324. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> I know you did
  1325. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> :)
  1326. # [20:41] <Optimizer> Am I invisible ?
  1327. # [20:42] <dao> has anyone seen Optimizer lately?
  1328. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> I haven't
  1329. # [20:43] * @smaug has crazy ideas again....
  1330. # [20:43] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
  1331. # [20:43] <znhxr> Optimizer: yes
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  1334. # [20:45] <Optimizer> znhxr: Yes for Am I invisible ?
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  1338. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> fantasai, yt?
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  1340. # [20:49] <Optimizer> :(
  1341. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> mounir, hope you like :)
  1342. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, I don't think anyone knows the solution to your problem, sorry
  1343. # [20:51] <Optimizer> It should work right ?
  1344. # [20:51] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what do you mean, is anything happening to css3-transforms? Can you be more specific?
  1345. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> Are we actually getting to the point where we can unprefix?
  1346. # [20:52] <@smaug> AryehGregor is back!
  1347. # [20:52] <AryehGregor> Yes, Passover just ended in Israel.
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  1349. # [20:52] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, we were at the point where we could unprefix like a year or two ago.
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  1352. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, afaict, yes, but I don't know much
  1353. # [20:52] * @smaug checks his review queue
  1354. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, Process-wise
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  1358. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> If you want to argue that we should unprefix now, I'll happily support that :)
  1359. # [20:53] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, when do we unprefix, CR? If so, I guess we can get to that whenever the WG feels like it. Any outstanding issues can be punted, as usual for CSS.
  1360. # [20:53] <AryehGregor> I don't think we're blocked by much of any editing work.
  1361. # [20:54] <AryehGregor> We don't actually need tests for CR, but we have them anyway, more or less.
  1362. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> s/of/or/?
  1363. # [20:54] <AryehGregor> No?
  1364. # [20:54] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I thought the idea was to unprefix gecko-tranforms during this Q
  1365. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> Then my English is just bad :)
  1366. # [20:54] <AryehGregor> (My first priority is going to be getting my transforms tests officially submitted, which I was dragging my feet about because it's boring, but sometimes we have to do boring things)
  1367. # [20:55] <AryehGregor> "much of any editing work" was intended to mean "much editing work". I dunno if it's an idiom or what, it sounds right to me.
  1368. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> I can help out if you want, I love boring things
  1369. # [20:55] <AryehGregor> Hmm, that sounds attractive. :)
  1370. # [20:55] <@smaug> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-Q2-Goals#Layout is not too clear
  1371. # [20:55] <AryehGregor> But a lot of it is writing explanations of what the tests are testing, which probably I should do.
  1372. # [20:56] <AryehGregor> Do you have an account for hg.csswg.org?
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  1375. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> I think so, yes
  1376. # [20:57] <AryehGregor> Maybe tomorrow I'll tell you what you could do to save me time, if you're up for it. Adding authorship info, for instance.
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  1378. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> "CSS 2.1 Test Suite v.2"
  1379. # [20:57] <AryehGregor> There are a few hundred files to be updated.
  1380. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> I wonder what that means
  1381. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> I could probably do that :)
  1382. # [20:59] <Optimizer> Ahh, It was a typo. (It's always a typo)
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  1391. # [21:04] <AryehGregor> Do tryserver results get thrown out after a while?
  1392. # [21:05] <AryehGregor> Like, say, a week of the reviewer not reviewing the patch followed by another week of vacation?
  1393. # [21:05] <AryehGregor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3e9043417b7f seems not to work.
  1394. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> Try got broken beyond repair during those weeks, so we had a reset
  1395. # [21:09] <AryehGregor> Oh. Sad.
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  1397. # [21:09] <Ms2ger> It happens
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  1399. # [21:11] * AryehGregor is pretty sure the try was green, so pushes to inbound anyway -- that's what it's for, right?
  1400. # [21:12] <Ms2ger> Indeed :)
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  1419. # [21:31] <AryehGregor> (as green as any test run ever is . . .)
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  1422. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> Not terribly :)
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  1429. # [21:42] <AryehGregor> Ugh, updating richtext2 results causes major merge conflicts. >:(
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  1465. # [22:38] <qDot> Ms2ger: Where'd the bustage report come from for the bug 732639 backout?
  1466. # [22:38] <qDot> Do we actually have b2g try's running now?
  1467. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=db5d4c1aece7
  1468. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> Look for red
  1469. # [22:39] <qDot> Oh, huh, didn't know those were running now, thanks.
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