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1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 19 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <timeless> WG9s: this is more sync related stuff?
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5. # [00:00] <timeless> tools>options>sync says "set up firefox sync"
6. # [00:00] <WG9s> timeless no
7. # [00:00] <timeless> which i assume means i'm not using it
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9. # [00:00] <timeless> WG9s: some general bustage?
10. # [00:01] <WG9s> it is bug 725408 checkin issue reported in bug 746457 related
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12. # [00:01] <timeless> which about:magic lets me see my hg rev(s)?
13. # [00:01] <timeless> oh, there it is
14. # [00:01] <WG9s> so there is a checout windwo during which extensions were broken.
15. # [00:01] <timeless> 28ebf87f14a9
16. # [00:02] <timeless> afaict i'm after that changeset
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18. # [00:02] <timeless> which i think means i'm in your window
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21. # [00:03] <WG9s> so i think just doing a new pull should perahps fix your issue
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24. # [00:04] <WG9s> but perhaps not my poor typing issue ;-)
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27. # [00:04] <timeless> i'm using nightly, not self builds :)
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29. # [00:04] <timeless> i'll see what tomorrow brings
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31. # [00:05] <timeless> now brings time for me to go home...
32. # [00:05] <WG9s> timeless: hm i think the nightly is supposed to work.
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34. # [00:05] <timeless> WG9s: well... i don't really know what's broken/how
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36. # [00:05] <timeless> all i have are some errors in jsconsole
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41. # [00:06] <WG9s> So might be a different issue. You could ask Myk Melez. I thought the backout that made the nightly actually fixed the issue and the follwup only removed everything becuase it was decided backing the whole thing out was the correct thing to do, but I am really not certain.
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48. # [00:11] <WG9s> timeless in any event the issue was that the extension did not manage to read it's default preferences file if your issue seems different from that, then there is probablhy a different issue
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62. # [00:18] <WG9s> timeless:well today's nightly has the patch that was thought was going to fix it but missed by one chekcin the complete backout of the patch that caused the issue. SO if this is your issue tomorrow's nightly should fix it.
63. # [00:18] * mbrubeck wonders if every Bugzilla bug should have a "talk" page, like in Mediawiki
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75. # [00:22] <zzzzz> WG9s: there was a respin that picked up the patch for the broken addons
76. # [00:23] <WG9s> timeless: ^^^^^^^
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91. # [00:35] <WG9s> zzzzz: Good to know I am now re-spinnning my nightly like builds based on the same changeset build-id etc.
92. # [00:35] <zzzzz> :)
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95. # [00:37] <WG9s> I have an automated process that does this every morning but respins I somehow have to find out about and do a amnual respin if is seem warranted.
96. # [00:38] <WG9s> s/amnual/manual/
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130. # [00:57] <nthomas> is there a known issue with jetpack consuming a bunch of memory on mac Nightly ?
131. # [00:57] <nthomas> I'm on the build with rev 28ebf87f14a9
132. # [01:00] <Waldo> firebot: ping
133. # [01:00] <firebot> Waldo: pong
134. # [01:01] * WG9s wonders exactly what exif bug Waldo is actually referring to.
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138. # [01:03] <edmorley> WG9s: Bug 298619 I would imagine
139. # [01:03] <Waldo> WG9s: bug exif, of course
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141. # [01:03] <Waldo> (strangely that alias was taken already, I had to remove it from an existing bug to assign it just now!)
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179. # [01:37] <taras> does the browser fire events to tell webpage to calm down when we switch tabs?
180. # [01:37] <taras> or do pages have to assume the tab is always active?
181. # [01:37] <@dolske> I don't believe so
182. # [01:38] <@dolske> there was some whatwg discussion on doing something like that, but ran into issues like privacy
183. # [01:38] <taras> ie what i am supposed to tell webdevs when i see their settimeouts murdering cpu/battery
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185. # [01:38] <taras> ie for etherpad
186. # [01:38] <@dolske> (we do automagically throttle some things, we just don't explicitly tell the page)
187. # [01:38] <taras> we fail there
188. # [01:39] <@dolske> setTimeouts are supposed to backoff in background tabs, afaik
189. # [01:39] <taras> they do, but poorly
190. # [01:39] <@dolske> we should probably be more aggressive, especially on mobile.
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193. # [01:40] <Mossop> taras: Webpages can tell when we switch tabs and turn down their own settimeouts in that case. Using the blur event I guess
194. # [01:40] <taras> i filed bugs but apparently there are other things that content people like to work on
195. # [01:40] <taras> Mossop: is that on a window?
196. # [01:40] <@dolske> not sure if an explicit notification will really help, at least in the long-tail of webdevs who don't care
197. # [01:40] <@dolske> we do?
198. # [01:40] <Mossop> I'm pretty sure. Certainly mibbit has always been able to tell when I switch tabs
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200. # [01:41] <taras> The onblur property can be used to set the blur handler on the window, which is triggered when the window loses focus.
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202. # [01:41] <taras> that sounds useful
203. # [01:42] <wesj> we also fire visibility change notifications (I think?): http://www.w3.org/TR/page-visibility/
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206. # [01:44] <Mossop> wesj: mxr yields no results for "visibilitychange" so I'm not sure that is true
207. # [01:44] <taras> Mossop: seems to work, thanks
208. # [01:45] <wesj> Mossop: hmm.. i thought i saw those firing at one point. maybe it all a dream
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211. # [01:46] <Mossop> wesj, taras: Oh, it's vendor prefixed currently. Fires the "mozvisibilitychange" event
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219. # [01:50] <IanN> Is "/usr/bin/ld: ../../../mozilla/dist/lib/libmozglue.a(double-conversion.o): undefined reference to symbol '__cxa_guard_acquire@@CXXABI_1.3'
220. # [01:50] <IanN> /usr/bin/ld: note: '__cxa_guard_acquire@@CXXABI_1.3' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line
221. # [01:50] <IanN> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation" a known issue on current trunk?
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224. # [01:51] <IanN> has something landed that requires a clobber?
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248. # [02:16] <gps> JavaScript WTF? http://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/1577806
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255. # [02:19] <@bz> gps: what's the issue?
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258. # [02:20] <gps> bz: it is converting string keys to numbers! it shouldn't do that (possibly the spec says to do that)
259. # [02:20] <@bz> gps: all property names in JS are nominally strings
260. # [02:20] <@bz> gps: [1,2,3]["1"] will return 2
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262. # [02:21] <Havvy> What bz says is true.
263. # [02:21] <@bz> gps: the fact that Iterator() produces non-string keys is interesting
264. # [02:21] <gps> so why is typeof(k) == "string" ?
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266. # [02:21] <gps> sorry - typeof(k) == "number"
267. # [02:21] <@bz> gps: what keys would you expect Iterator([1,2,3]) to return?
268. # [02:22] <gps> numbers
269. # [02:22] <@bz> ok
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271. # [02:22] <@khuey|away> ehsan++
272. # [02:22] <gps> but I'm assigning string keys in the example!
273. # [02:22] <@bz> that's what it's doing
274. # [02:22] <@bz> again
275. # [02:22] <gps> the keys are {"1": "foo}
276. # [02:22] <@bz> all keys in JS are strings
277. # [02:22] <ehsan|extremely-busy> khuey|away: ?
278. # [02:22] <@bz> all property names
279. # [02:22] <@bz> _all_ of them
280. # [02:22] <gps> yes
281. # [02:22] <@khuey|away> ehsan|extremely-busy: for taking on that bug
282. # [02:22] <@bz> Arrays have properties named "0", "1", "2", etc
283. # [02:22] <gps> yes
284. # [02:22] <ehsan|extremely-busy> khuey|away: oh :)
285. # [02:22] <ehsan|extremely-busy> wasn't that hard
286. # [02:23] <@bz> so if you want Iterator([1,2,3]) to return 0, 1, 2 as keys, instead of "0", "1", "2"
287. # [02:23] <ehsan|extremely-busy> sort of had a hunch ;)
288. # [02:23] <gavin> bz++
289. # [02:23] <@bz> then Iterator has to convert strings to numbers in some cases
290. # [02:23] <@bz> gavin: hemm?
291. # [02:23] <ehsan|extremely-busy> khuey|away: read that bug about the assertion for some amusing stuff!
292. # [02:23] <@bz> gavin: for explaining JS braindamage? ;)
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294. # [02:23] <gps> bz: I want to know why the typeof() of the key in this case is a number
295. # [02:23] <gps> lines 8 and 9
296. # [02:24] <gps> I would expect a string
297. # [02:24] <@bz> gps: again, if you passed an array to Iterator, would you expect the keys to be numbers?
298. # [02:24] <gps> but I passed an object and the properties of objects are always strings
299. # [02:24] <@bz> no
300. # [02:24] <gps> and they are strings in my example!
301. # [02:24] <@bz> arrays and objects are the same thing
302. # [02:24] <@bz> all their properties are always strings
303. # [02:24] <@bz> there's nothing special about arrays
304. # [02:24] <@bz> in terms of property names
305. # [02:25] <@bz> so if you want to get numbers for an array
306. # [02:25] <Havvy> The only thing special is the magical length property.
307. # [02:25] <@bz> that means numbers for strings that happen to be numbers for all objects
308. # [02:25] <@bz> Havvy: yes
309. # [02:25] <Mook_as> Havvy: that's just having custom getters and setters, though, so it's still not _special_ special.
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312. # [02:26] <@bz> gps: that said, the fact that we don't stringify the key is probably a bug
313. # [02:26] <@bz> gps: it should be a string perhaps for both arrays and object
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315. # [02:26] <@bz> gps: check in #jsapi?
316. # [02:27] <Mook_as> that would be fun for people adding things to indices...
317. # [02:27] <@bz> mmm
318. # [02:27] <gps> http://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/1577812
319. # [02:27] <@bz> Mook_as: one sec
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321. # [02:28] <@bz> js> for (let k in [1,2,3]) { print("Key: " + k + " type: " + typeof(k)); }
322. # [02:28] <@bz> Key: 0 type: string
323. # [02:28] <@bz> Key: 1 type: string
324. # [02:28] <@bz> Key: 2 type: string
325. # [02:28] <gps> bz: the reporting numbers as the keys is the "bug" I was WTF'ing :)
326. # [02:28] <@bz> yeah
327. # [02:28] <@bz> internally we store those propnames as numbers
328. # [02:28] <gps> I'll just file a bug and worst case is dev-doc-needed
329. # [02:28] <@bz> and Iterator is failing to convert
330. # [02:29] <@bz> Mook_as: or even more clearly:
331. # [02:29] <gps> bz: I couldn't care less about how you are doing it internally :)
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333. # [02:29] <@bz> js> for (let k in [1,2,3]) { print(k + 2) }
334. # [02:29] <@bz> 02
335. # [02:29] <@bz> 12
336. # [02:29] <@bz> 22
337. # [02:29] <@bz> gps: heh
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341. # [02:30] <Mook_as> huh. I thought it was.. saner than that. I guess I'm wrong!
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344. # [02:30] <@bz> there's a reason iterating arrays with for...in is discouraged
345. # [02:31] <@bz> well, lots of reasons, actually
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348. # [02:31] <Mook_as> yeah, iterating over things (in general) in JS has... odd bits all over the place.
349. # [02:31] <gps> bz: bug 746814
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352. # [02:32] <@bz> gps: thanks
353. # [02:32] <Mook_as> gps: fwiw (not very much), it's the same w/ gecko7. (don't ask me why I'm on it...)
354. # [02:32] <@bz> Mook_as: why are you on it?
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356. # [02:33] <Mook_as> bz: because the rapid release trains doesn't work well with products that have major versions ~ once a year? branches and all that...
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360. # [02:33] <@bz> Mook_as: oh, Gecko 7, not Firefox 7, ok
361. # [02:34] <Mook_as> yeah, I'd be silly to be on _firefox_ 7 :)
362. # [02:34] <@khuey|away> I hear there's this thing for that
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364. # [02:34] <@khuey|away> cause I keep having to land my security bugs on it
365. # [02:35] <Mossop> Hmm, are we doing esr builds of XULRunner?
366. # [02:35] <@dolske> I would hope not!
367. # [02:35] <Mook_as> yeah, that ESR thing 1) predates us getting on any sort of train, and 2) doesn't work with stuff we require (pyxpcom) and we haven't ported stuff over yet.
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369. # [02:36] <Mossop> dolske: Why not?
370. # [02:36] <Ameya> is there a method to compare two URLs?
371. # [02:37] <@bz> Ameya: compare in what sense?
372. # [02:37] <biesi> Ameya, convert them to nsIURI and call .equals
373. # [02:37] <biesi> hm yeah, what bz said
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375. # [02:37] <Callek> khuey|away: at least you don't have to do like glandium and land your sec bugs for Firefox 3.5 *!*!*!
376. # [02:37] <@dolske> because afaik xulrunner is still in the quasi-unsupported state, so I'd be quite surprised if we were officially doing it for ESR
377. # [02:37] <Ameya> string equality...
378. # [02:38] <Mossop> dolske: I don't necessarily mean officially, but just making builds, same as we do for release, beta, aurora and central
379. # [02:38] <@dolske> ah
380. # [02:39] <@bz> Ameya: what are you actually trying to do? And in what language?
381. # [02:39] <Ameya> I have chrome:// URL of addon & need to compare with URL given by of addon.getResourceURI()
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384. # [02:41] <gavin> didn't I point you to convertChromeURL weeks ago? :)
385. # [02:41] <gavin> though I have no idea what kind of URI addon.getResourceURI returns
386. # [02:41] <Ameya> Yes.. i know
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390. # [02:42] <Ameya> gavin: but output of convertChromeURL & from addon.getResourceURl() is different
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392. # [02:42] <gavin> different how?
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394. # [02:44] <Jesse> jrmuizel: should i keep filing skia assertion bugs that i hit by enabling azure on linux? 746491, 746495, 746497 so far and i have about 3 more
395. # [02:44] <Ameya> addon.getResourceURl().spec addons some extra characters in it.. like %
396. # [02:45] <Ameya> which convertChromeURL does not
397. # [02:45] <jrmuizel> Jesse: I think so yeah
398. # [02:45] <jrmuizel> if it's not too much hassle
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405. # [02:46] <Ameya> gavin: I have chrome://sample/content/clock.js want to check whether it belongs to any addon or not...
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411. # [02:48] <gavin> Ameya: can you please pastebin both URLs that you're trying to compare?
412. # [02:48] <Ameya> ok
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424. # [02:53] <Ameya> gavin: I have to compile FF again to get those URLs...
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431. # [02:59] <Ameya> gavin: I am getting urls of scripts that are calling nsICookieManager in xpcjsid.cpp. final objective is to find which of those belong to addon.
432. # [03:00] <gavin> it sounds like th eonly differecne is some encoding issue
433. # [03:01] <Ameya> Yes i think...
434. # [03:01] <Ameya> gavin: actually i want to track addons which access cookie in private browsing
435. # [03:01] <gavin> if you list both URLs you're seeing, I would be better able to suggest ways to massage one into the other
436. # [03:02] <Ameya> yes... wait
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461. # [03:13] <WeirdAl> Help! XULRunner won't start: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1577891
462. # [03:13] <WeirdAl> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XULRunner/Deploying_XULRunner_1.8#Mac_OS_X
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468. # [03:15] <Mossop> WeirdAl: Which XULRunner? Various versions of the stub are all messed up
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470. # [03:15] <WeirdAl> latest-mozilla-aurora, from last night
471. # [03:15] <Mossop> Yeah, that is affected
472. # [03:16] <WeirdAl> :|
473. # [03:16] <WeirdAl> bug #?
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475. # [03:18] <WeirdAl> (at least it wasn't something dumb I did, this time)
476. # [03:18] <Mossop> WeirdAl: bug 738790
477. # [03:19] <WeirdAl> hmm, what're the odds of getting that into FF13?
478. # [03:19] <WeirdAl> which is about to go beta, I note
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480. # [03:20] <Mossop> Yeah at this late stage Im not sure
481. # [03:20] <Mossop> WeirdAl: All you have to do is add the line to the start of dependentlibs.list though
482. # [03:20] <WeirdAl> hmm, well, the only reason I'm using Aurora builds is Map isn't available on beta
483. # [03:21] <Mossop> And just for fun we haven't been generating OSX builds on nightly since before that bug was fixed :(
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485. # [03:22] <WeirdAl> hmm, I noticed builds going to ftp.m.o's nightly folder, but not migrating to latest-mozilla-aurora
486. # [03:22] <WeirdAl> I filed that last night and it was resolved within an hour
487. # [03:22] <WeirdAl> or are you referring to something else?
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489. # [03:23] <Mossop> Yeah. We changed the packaging of XULRunner on OSX, but the stuff that handles uploading the builds to ftp hasn't been fixed to work with it yet
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492. # [03:24] <WeirdAl> well, this is just all-around unfortunate :)
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494. # [03:25] <Mossop> Yeah
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497. # [03:26] <@bz> bjacob: ping
498. # [03:27] <WeirdAl> Mossop: but it _is_ fixed on central...
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500. # [03:28] <Mossop> WeirdAl: Yep, just need to wait for builds to start showing up (bug 744098)
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502. # [03:29] <WeirdAl> mm, I really don't like using central builds... aurora at least offers a modicum of stability
503. # [03:29] <WeirdAl> and the whole point of my little project is to avoid building XR
504. # [03:30] <Mossop> WeirdAl: Well, we're on approvals only right now so more stable than normal. Hopefully the ftp builds will be fixed by the time we merge to aurora on Tuesday
505. # [03:30] <WeirdAl> ok.
506. # [03:31] <WeirdAl> assuming I can get the other pieces I need in place, I'm going to write a python port of --install-app
507. # [03:31] <Mossop> That runs on all platforms
508. # [03:31] <Mossop> ?
509. # [03:31] <WeirdAl> yeah
510. # [03:31] <Mossop> Nice
511. # [03:31] <WeirdAl> I'm just good enough with Python that I can do that.
512. # [03:31] <Mossop> I may have need of that
513. # [03:32] <WeirdAl> it'll also have much better console output
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516. # [03:33] <WeirdAl> that's bug 741462 - right now the summary is misleading because comment 1 came later :)
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521. # [03:36] <WeirdAl> gotta run, college beckons
522. # [03:36] <WeirdAl> thanks Mossop
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533. # [03:48] <tonymec> “Tap here to activate plugin. Click here to activate plugins.” I have a desktop computer (with a mouse, of course) but with neither a trackpad nor a sensitive screen. How do I “tap”?
534. # [03:49] <jtcranmer> try left-clicking?
535. # [03:50] <bjacob> bz: i'm mostly offline, maybe a quick question :)
536. # [03:50] <tonymec> jtcranmer: What difference with "Click" then? The word plugin is in singular for “tap”, plural for “click”.
537. # [03:51] <jtcranmer> my first guess is TYPO!
538. # [03:51] <tonymec> hm
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541. # [03:52] <tonymec> jtcranmer: could be: I clicked, and the same placeholder wasn't changed in a different tab. Yet I wonder.
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547. # [03:56] <fryn> khuey: ping
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549. # [03:56] <@khuey> fryn: pong
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551. # [03:56] <fryn> khuey: i made some windows installers (make install, etc.)
552. # [03:57] <fryn> but they hit 'Missing msvcr100.dll'
553. # [03:57] <fryn> for people without VS
554. # [03:57] <fryn> how to make installers w/o this dependency?
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556. # [03:59] <@khuey> fryn: you need to se WIN32_REDIST_DIR
557. # [03:59] <@khuey> *set
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565. # [04:07] <fryn> khuey: ah, i see
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574. # [04:13] <fryn> khuey: thanks
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584. # [04:37] <nrc> does anyone know how to enable the crash reporter in debug builds? I've tried adding ac_add_options --enable-crashreporter to my mozconfig, but MOZ_CRASHREPORTER still ends up undefined
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588. # [04:39] <Xtremer> Hey guys, I'm trying to build firefox for the first time on a mac, and I'm getting this error: "client.mk:80: *** The mozilla directory cannot be located in a path with spaces.. Stop."
589. # [04:40] <Xtremer> My hard drive name comes as default as "Macintosh HD", so I suspect I'm not the only one with this problem
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591. # [04:40] <Ameya> gavin: are u there?
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594. # [04:44] <mattwoodrow> Xtremer: what does 'pwd' say in your mozilla directory?
595. # [04:45] <Xtremer> mattwoodrow: It's /Volumes/Macintosh HD/Users/Raffi/Documents/_opensource/mozilla-central -- I know the space is in the Macintosh HD, but the reason why I'm asking is because I can't be the only one since this is the default drive name for OS X
596. # [04:46] <Ameya> I got actual URL of addon such as file:///c:/users/Yogesh%20G/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/ubymda1i.default/extensions/sample@exmaple.net.xpi & I have chrome url of the script belongs to same addon such as "chrome://sample/content/clock.js".
597. # [04:47] <mattwoodrow> Xtremer: for most people it just shows up at /Users/..., so the hard drive name doesn't matter
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599. # [04:47] <mattwoodrow> is that a secondary hard drive or something?
600. # [04:47] <mattwoodrow> I don't know why its mounted under Volumes
601. # [04:47] <Xtremer> Actually yes, my MBP has two drives… An SSD where the OS is installed, and a HDD. One is called Macintosh SSD and the other is Macintosh HD… I guess I might have to build under the SSD then?
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603. # [04:47] <Ameya> Here I know that script belongs to same addon but I dont know then I how to find?
604. # [04:48] <heycam> /Volumes is like /mnt or /media
605. # [04:48] <Ameya> I mean how to compare two URLs
606. # [04:48] <heycam> but you should be able to "cd /Users/Raffi/Documents/..."
607. # [04:48] <heycam> (on my machine /Volumes/Macintosh HD is a symlink for /)
608. # [04:48] <mattwoodrow> Xtremer: Yeah that makes sense then
609. # [04:49] <mattwoodrow> Your choices are, rename the hard drive, or build from the SSD
610. # [04:50] <Xtremer> Alright, if I build off my SSD, is it going to wear down my drive too much? It's the reason why I didn't put it there in the first place.
611. # [04:50] <Xtremer> I might try renaming my drive but I don't know what consequences there might be from doing that.
612. # [04:51] <Ameya> How to find out any URL whether that belongs to any of addon directory.
613. # [04:51] <Ameya> Any one ??
614. # [04:51] <Xtremer> heycam: I use symlinks to point from my SSD to my HDD, but not the other way around, since my OS and apps are on the SSD, I just point Documents, Downloads, etc from the SSD as a symlink to my HDD
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616. # [04:52] <heycam> Xtremer, and your home directory is on the SSD?
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618. # [04:53] <Xtremer> heycam: Yes, but I symlink some subfolders away to the HDD, while the others remain on the SSD.
619. # [04:54] <Xtremer> I just moved the big and heavy files or the ones I write to often out to the HDD
620. # [04:54] <heycam> Xtremer, it sounds like the build scripts need the "real" directory to have no spaces, so renaming Macintosh HD or moving the tree to the SSD might indeed be your only options
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622. # [04:55] <heycam> Xtremer, (since the home directory on your ssd would have its "real" directory at /Users/Raffi)
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626. # [04:56] <Ameya> heycam: any idea?
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629. # [04:56] <Xtremer> heycam: Makes sense… But is that by design? I know that normally you can simply apply "" marks around the path so that it works with spaces, but in this case I can't since it's in the script
630. # [04:56] <heycam> Ameya, don't know sorry
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632. # [04:57] <heycam> Xtremer, I'm not a build script expert, maybe there are many places to do that (since the build system isn't simple) and it would be tricky to find them all
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636. # [04:58] <Xtremer> heycam: Fair enough. Thanks for the help.
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638. # [04:59] <heycam> Xtremer, ok good luck
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659. # [05:20] <@bz> where do bugs on the HUDService go?
660. # [05:22] <KWierso> bz: a google search brings up a bug in firefox - dev tools for the top result
661. # [05:22] <@bz> yeah
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692. # [05:55] <@ehsan> roc: orange reftests on inbound
693. # [05:55] <@ehsan> roc: should I back you out?
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695. # [05:55] <Callek> ehsan: you should back out anyone who busts things :-P
696. # [05:55] <Callek> the time for followup fixes is over ;-)
697. # [05:56] <@ehsan> hehe, ok
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701. # [06:01] <@ehsan> roc: backed out both, sorry!
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716. # [06:20] <Ameya> how to convert nsXPIDLCString to nsCAutoString
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720. # [06:26] <@roc> thanks
721. # [06:27] <aja> hmmmm....anything new re: supercookies on inbound ?
722. # [06:28] * aja is getting some new errors out of BetterPrivacy extension
723. # [06:29] <KWierso> aja: how current is your copy of inbound?
724. # [06:29] <KWierso> there was something that was breaking noscript/adblock/stylish/others on central last night, but it was fixed before today's nightly came out
725. # [06:30] <aja> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c209b10216fb
726. # [06:30] <aja> yeah....maybe the preferences reading thang
727. # [06:30] <jdm> Ameya: you might just be able to use string.Assign(xpidlstring)
728. # [06:31] <Ameya> ok
729. # [06:32] <KWierso> aja: yeah, I don't see the bustage fix on inbound's pushlog
730. # [06:33] <aja> k....tks
731. # [06:33] <KWierso> well, I do, but the merge that brought it in is newer than your revision
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735. # [06:37] <Ameya> jdm:i tried this nsCAutoString stringURL=fileName;.... got error. lets try your way
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743. # [06:43] <Mark_Capella> njn: Re:Bug 570785 - Add about:memory report Thanks! The error console pointed out my description didn't end with a 'period' :)
744. # [06:44] <njn> Mark_Capella: it's picky like that :)
745. # [06:45] <Mark_Capella> thnx!
746. # [06:45] <aja> KWierso: latest build _much_ better....the one i'd been trying was seriously borked in all kinds of ways....surprised if whole tree wasn't ablaze
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760. # [06:57] <rillian_lime> philor: does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=11023172&tree=Try look familiar? (leak during test execution, only on WinXP debug)
761. # [06:58] <rillian_lime> I'm not seeing it on adjacent pushes, but the symbols it found aren't anything my patch touches either
762. # [06:58] <philor> rillian_lime: bug 723832 if it's intermittent, all your fault if it's not intermittent :)
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764. # [06:59] <philor> the problem is that it's just "this is what it looks like to leak everything" so telling a new one from the existing one is... difficult
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767. # [07:00] <rillian_lime> ok, that explains the giant size
768. # [07:00] <rillian_lime> well, or I leaked a few decoded audio buffers :)
769. # [07:00] <rillian_lime> philor: thanks!
770. # [07:00] <philor> np
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817. # [07:56] <philor> yay, 500 from bugzilla
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823. # [08:01] <rillian_lime> ok, not repeatable
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827. # [08:06] <KWierso> you just shouldn't have doublechecked bmo
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861. # [08:46] <@khuey> Jesse: so your fuzzer picks up on chrome JS exceptions now?
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863. # [08:47] <Jesse> khuey: it tries
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867. # [08:48] <@khuey> Jesse: cool
868. # [08:48] <@khuey> Jesse: this will be really useful for bug 695480
869. # [08:48] <@khuey> which throws exceptions when chrome accesses "dead" objects
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873. # [08:50] <Jesse> khuey: it only sees exceptions that aren't caught
874. # [08:50] <Jesse> khuey: so you might want to add a warning or assertion that i can see reliably
875. # [08:50] <cadecairos> roc: ping
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878. # [08:54] <@roc> hi
879. # [08:54] <@roc> actually I gotta run
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883. # [08:58] <@khuey> Jesse: interesting
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888. # [09:02] <Jesse> khuey: the relevant code is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1578370
889. # [09:02] <Jesse> so it looks for "uncaught exception" or "JavaScript error" from chrome://browser/ or resource:///components
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891. # [09:03] <Jesse> and ignores a bunch of known bugs, as well as anything that happens during shutdown or after a testcase has done an evil recursion thing
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893. # [09:04] <Jesse> those might not be the right things to look for ;)
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904. # [09:13] <aja> Jesse: saw an interesting bug fix (in another browser) the other nite....wondered if your fuzzer handles
905. # [09:14] <aja> stylesheets recursively @import'ing each other
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924. # [09:35] <hsivonen> which Ubuntu package provides what the Firefox configure script calls gstreamer-app?
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930. # [09:36] <hsivonen> hmm. configure seems to pass now
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977. # [10:13] <AryehGregor> Could someone add something to <https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Mozilla_Coding_Style_Guide> about use of const? It looks like we use it for params, but generally not local variables, or . . . ?
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988. # [10:28] <textcore> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/04/18/apple_issues_xcode_44_developer_preview_3.html
989. # [10:28] <textcore> "The notes also cautioned that performance of ATS APIs will suffer in OS X 10.8 because the ATS.framework is being deprecated. Developers are instructed to replace all their ATS code with CoreText as it will be removed in future OS X releases."
990. # [10:28] <textcore> has Firefox moved completely to CoreText since ATSUI is getting the boot?
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1017. # [10:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d42051ed9a81 - Tim Taubert - Bug 745303 - Part 1 - Make Panorama use the thumbnail service; r=dietrich
1018. # [10:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5d69cf5ce278 - Raymond Lee - Bug 659594 - Use MozAfterPaint to redraw thumbnails r=ttaubert
1019. # [10:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/15387b04ebf2 - Tim Taubert - Bug 745303 - Part 2 - Correct Panorama tests; r=dietrich
1020. # [10:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c2ee16305bc6 - Tim Taubert - Bug 745303 - Part 3 - Remove empty method; r=me
1021. # [10:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a9b543de6b67 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team; a=desktop-only
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1031. # [11:04] <jfkthame> bugzilla down? :(
1032. # [11:04] <ttaubert> fuuuuuuuuuu
1033. # [11:04] <ttaubert> :(
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1035. # [11:05] <mounir> damn
1036. # [11:05] <mounir> just when I left the shower after putting aside all bugmail than need an action...
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1038. # [11:07] <ttaubert> back
1039. # [11:07] <jfkthame> oh, it's back :)
1040. # [11:08] <mounir> \o/
1041. # [11:08] <jfkthame> or is it?
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1043. # [11:09] <jfkthame> ah, there…. just slow
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1046. # [11:14] <glandium> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1583943 wtf
1047. # [11:15] <glandium> (and obviously, I'd like the second output when running make)
1048. # [11:22] <hsivonen> aargh. why does the XSLT processor use integers as its string ids instead of easy-to-search tokens?
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1079. # [11:56] <gabor> bholley: you might be interested in it, an article about wrappers I just published: http://blog.mozilla.org/gabor/?p=1
1080. # [11:57] <bholley> gabor: hm, broken link?
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1084. # [11:58] <gabor> bholley: ah well... I'm not a very good with this blogging thing... the linked worked for me, I have to figure out what is wrong with it
1085. # [11:59] <bholley> gabor: did you click publish? If not, it's only visible to you (when you're logged in)
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1089. # [12:00] <gabor> bholley: yes I did, I also made it public, now it's status is scheduled...
1090. # [12:00] <bholley> gabor: still can't see it...
1091. # [12:01] * gabor cusing WordPress
1092. # [12:02] <gabor> bholley: I will try to find someone who can help me with this and let you know when it's up and running
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1094. # [12:03] <bholley> gabor: http://en.support.wordpress.com/posts/schedule-a-post/
1095. # [12:04] <bholley> gabor: it's probably scheduled to be published in the future
1096. # [12:04] <gabor> bholley: right... I changed the published date from february to today, I guess it's a time zone issue, I'll try it
1097. # [12:06] <gabor> bholley: it seems to work now
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1099. # [12:06] * bholley looks
1100. # [12:06] <bholley> gabor: whoa, this is huge!
1101. # [12:07] <gabor> bholley: my plan was to write several short ones instead of one big one... well... this is the first small one :)
1102. # [12:07] <bholley> gabor: ah, XPConnect...
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1109. # [12:11] <NeilAway> gabor: mind = blown
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1111. # [12:11] * NeilAway never knew XPCNativeWrapper.unwrap() was so complex
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1114. # [12:14] <gabor> NeilAway: it's not that complex... it just has some scary looking names :) like math...
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1121. # [12:16] <bholley> gabor: I might suggest writing "Cross-Origin Wrapper" rather than "CrossOriginWrapper", given than "CrossOriginWrapper" is not actually a XOW
1122. # [12:17] <bholley> gabor: in general, PuttingWordsTogetherLikeThis makes it look like the name of a class in the code, but we don't actually have ChromeObjectWrapper and XPCSafeJSObjectWrapper
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1124. # [12:18] <gabor> bholley: when you see CrossOriginWrapper I refer to the class that has nothing to do with XOW
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1127. # [12:18] <bholley> gabor: ah! /me reads on
1128. # [12:18] <gabor> bholley: it is actually the old XPCSafeJSObjectWrapper class just it was renamed
1129. # [12:18] <gabor> bholley: I would in fact like to rename it back or find a better name for it
1130. # [12:19] <bholley> gabor: yeah. I think TransitivelyWaivingWrapper is the best
1131. # [12:19] <gabor> bholley: I like that
1132. # [12:19] <bholley> gabor: and NoWaiverWrapper will go away after cpg
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1138. # [12:22] <bholley> gabor: nice post!
1139. # [12:23] <gabor> bholley: thanks, I hope it'll help some... I would have loved to have it a few months ago for sure...
1140. # [12:24] <bholley> gabor: definitely
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1189. # [13:37] <@smaug> hsivonen: why do we have nsHtml5ExecutorFlusher and nsHtml5ExecutorReflusher ?
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1192. # [13:43] <pranavrc> mozilla-central/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/common/linux/../../../../../../dist/include/mozilla/mozalloc.h:253: undefined reference to `moz_free'
1193. # [13:43] <pranavrc> been getting this error since I upgraded my distro(Arch)
1194. # [13:44] <pranavrc> tried the solutions suggested in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558888 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557125 but they don't seem to work
1195. # [13:45] <pranavrc> also tried reverting to an older version of gcc, that doesn't work either
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1202. # [13:51] <hsivonen> smaug: do you mean why do we have both?
1203. # [13:51] <@smaug> hsivonen: right
1204. # [13:51] <@smaug> well, actually, runnable method would probably work
1205. # [13:53] <hsivonen> smaug: we have nsHtml5ExecutorFlusher, because nsHtml5StreamParser needs to have a runnable that doesn't refcount the executor from the parser thread
1206. # [13:54] <hsivonen> smaug: we have nsHtml5ExecutorReflusher, because another source file also needs a runnable
1207. # [13:54] <hsivonen> and that source file needs it even whan when an nsHtml5StreamParser instance doesn't exist
1208. # [13:54] <@smaug> but couldn't we just move the class to some header
1209. # [13:55] <@smaug> and use it in both places
1210. # [13:55] <hsivonen> smaug: you need to have some place where to hold an instance of the runnable nsHtml5StreamParser uses
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1212. # [13:56] <hsivonen> smaug: but yeah, the runnable could be held by the executor itself or something if you wanted to eliminate duplicate runnables
1213. # [13:56] <hsivonen> smaug: oh and even if you had duplicate instances, you could have the class definition in one header, sure
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1215. # [13:57] <@smaug> nsCOMPtr<nsIRunnable> event = NS_NewRunnableMethod(some_nsHtml5TreeOpExecuto, RunFlushLoop);
1216. # [13:57] <@smaug> that should work, I think
1217. # [13:57] <@smaug> no need for those helper classes at all
1218. # [13:57] <@smaug> I'll fix this
1219. # [13:58] <@smaug> minor cleanup
1220. # [13:58] <hsivonen> ok
1221. # [13:59] <@smaug> ah, runnable method doesn't work after all
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1323. # [15:37] * AryehGregor has 17 patches applied in mq from the last three days or so; will probably have 100+ by the time m-c reopens at this rate . . .
1324. # [15:37] <AryehGregor> I guess no one is volunteering to set up a tree that birch will merge into once a day when there's a successful try run? :)
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1326. # [15:38] <AryehGregor> Actually, how about a tree that just updates to the latest birch version that passed a try run with no commits allowed to it, so it's always a fast-forward?
1327. # [15:38] <AryehGregor> Then I could base development off that. I don't really want to use birch for development when there's no guarantee it will build . . . maybe that's easiest, though.
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1334. # [15:41] <AryehGregor> I guess I could base development off birch, but only pull the latest version I see that passed all tests.
1335. # [15:41] <AryehGregor> I think I'll do that.
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1338. # [15:45] <AryehGregor> There, that was easy.
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1340. # [15:46] <AryehGregor> It makes pushing to try more annoying, though. Sigh.
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1342. # [15:48] <catlee-buildduty> who wants to see a shutdown hang?
1343. # [15:48] <catlee-buildduty> I've got firefox trying to shutdown on linux64, and the process is doing lots of io across a few unix sockets
1344. # [15:49] <catlee-buildduty> doesn't seem to be getting anywhere...
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1417. # [16:29] <Yoric> mak: ping
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1423. # [16:32] <Yoric> I am not used to looking at tbpl logs on inbound.
1424. # [16:32] <Yoric> Is it normal to have less logging than on TryServer?
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1426. # [16:32] <mbrubeck> Yoric: Example?
1427. # [16:32] <mak> Yoric: hi
1428. # [16:33] <Yoric> i.e. is it built in non-DEBUG or non-LOG mode?
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1430. # [16:33] <Yoric> mbrubeck: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10934056&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound
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1432. # [16:33] <mbrubeck> The log parsing should be the same... We do both debug and opt builds...
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1437. # [16:34] <mbrubeck> That one is an opt build; they are build with mostly the same options as our release builds, so I expect logging is disabled.
1438. # [16:34] <Yoric> So either the test that fails has never started in the first place... or there is something I don't understand.
1439. # [16:34] <Yoric> Ok, but this one is non-debug if I understand correctly: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10830007&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1
1440. # [16:34] <Yoric> And still no log.
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1443. # [16:35] <mbrubeck> hmm, also very little logging... I wonder if it's something to do with it being xpcshell...?
1444. # [16:35] <Yoric> mak: Attempting to figure out bug 744698 (while it's not raining :) )
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1446. # [16:35] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Normally, this test prints out lots of stuff.
1447. # [16:36] <mbrubeck> Picking a random xpcshell run from Try, it looks like it doesn't pick up any log output either: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=11037425&tree=Try
1448. # [16:36] <Yoric> :/:/
1449. # [16:36] <mak> Yoric: which kind of logs are you looking for? the xpcshell test run?
1450. # [16:37] <Yoric> mak: Indeed.
1451. # [16:37] <mak> those logs look common
1452. # [16:37] <mak> unfortunately
1453. # [16:37] <Yoric> Otoh, I cannot find recent traces of this orange.
1454. # [16:37] <mak> could be a rare orange... that happens only every X runs
1455. # [16:37] <mak> we have some that happen once a month or such
1456. # [16:38] <Yoric> I'd still be interested in finding out what happens with that orange.
1457. # [16:38] <Yoric> And without any log, I won't go very far.
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1459. # [16:38] <mak> sure, the log doesn't help though, you have to modify the test adding more sanity checks probably and hope it fails on one of those
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1461. # [16:39] <mbrubeck> If you can't reproduce it, one option could be to use info() to log things from the test code...
1462. # [16:39] <Yoric> mak: Thing is, the test normally prints pages and pages of log.
1463. # [16:39] <mbrubeck> or fix whatever prevents the debug output from ending up in the xpcshell log...
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1466. # [16:39] <mak> I thought reducing the log was a feature, actually (the full log would be very very long)
1467. # [16:39] <mbrubeck> reftest logs pick include the debug output; maybe xpcshell output is not sent to the same place or something. (stdin vs. stderr?)
1468. # [16:40] <Yoric> mak: And anything that can kill that test (except perhaps one thing) should also be visible on the log.
1469. # [16:40] <mbrubeck> s/pick//
1470. # [16:40] <Yoric> Actually, most of the log is in the code of the service used by that test.
1471. # [16:40] <Yoric> It has to be activated by a preference – which is activated as part of the test.
1472. # [16:40] * Yoric will check if that preference has changed for any reason.
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1479. # [16:43] <Yoric> No, no such change.
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1484. # [16:45] <mbrubeck> Yoric: Where does the test set the pref?
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1493. # [16:47] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Last line of head_search.js
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1496. # [16:48] <Yoric> Is there a quick way of searching for failed xpcshell tests on tbpl?
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1498. # [16:49] <jdm> Yoric: in a log, you mean?
1499. # [16:49] <mbrubeck> Yoric: You can click on "Filters" in the header and type xpcshell<enter>
1500. # [16:49] <mbrubeck> under "Job Name"
1501. # [16:49] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Thanks.
1502. # [16:50] <mbrubeck> No way to filter out green ones, though.
1503. # [16:50] <Yoric> jdm: Nope, in all builds.
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1505. # [16:50] <Yoric> mbrubeck: A little faster to read, thanks.
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1510. # [16:52] <Yoric> Well, I can't find any occurrence on the past 4 days.
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1514. # [16:55] <mbrubeck> Oh, I assume this is a new, unfiled orange? In that case you can press "u" to show only unstarred jobs, making the search easier.
1515. # [16:55] <Yoric> What exactly are starred/unstarred jobs?
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1521. # [16:57] <jdm> Yoric: starred means that the failure was been identified
1522. # [16:58] <Yoric> ok
1523. # [16:58] <jdm> ie. either a known intermittent one or the offending changeset
1524. # [16:58] <Yoric> mak: Did you do anything to star that orange?
1525. # [16:58] <mak> Yoric: filed the bug...
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1527. # [16:59] <mak> btw, didn't follow the last 10 minutes of discussion, so I could be OT :D
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1530. # [16:59] <Yoric> mak: Just trying to find out whether I should look at starred or unstarred jobs on Inbound for that bug.
1531. # [17:00] <gcp> I have a feature that I need to back out because of a critical bug.
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1533. # [17:00] <gcp> Do I just make backout patches and reattach those to the original bugs that added the feature?
1534. # [17:01] <gcp> add those backout patches in the bug that is forcing the backout?
1535. # [17:01] <mak> gcp: backout in aurora or globally?
1536. # [17:01] <gcp> nightly and aurora
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1538. # [17:01] <mak> so it's a full backout, I think it's better to reopen the bug then
1539. # [17:01] <Yoric> Well, I am catching my death out there in the cold.
1540. # [17:01] <Yoric> Talk to you later.
1541. # [17:02] <gcp> mak: do I need to put specific patches if they're essentially the previous ones in reverse?
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1546. # [17:02] <mak> gcp: no, if it's a plain backout I think you can just paste the changesets
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1548. # [17:02] <mak> if you need special patches better to post the patches
1549. # [17:03] <Yoric> Back at it from a better place.
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1563. # [17:08] <mkaply> It's been a while since I've debugged on Windows. Can someone remind me - isn't there a command line option to avoid the restart? I'm trying to debug a startup crash so I need to debug the whole path.
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1574. # [17:14] <mkaply> looks like vcexpress can't attach to a process. How sad
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1597. # [17:22] <Yoric> mak: Still trying to find out. As far as you know, should I be searching for starred or unstarred xpcshell jobs?
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1599. # [17:23] <Yoric> (reminder: it's bug 744698)
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1601. # [17:24] <mbrubeck> Yoric: Any jobs starred with that bug will automatically be added as comments to the bug
1602. # [17:24] <mak> Yoric: not sure what you are asking, starred jobs are already annotated in the bug, unstarred ones, well, may be anything
1603. # [17:24] <mbrubeck> You can just sit back and wait for the comments to roll in...
1604. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c55ce76c8dac - Serge Gautherie - Bug 743692. (Fv2-FF) nsBrowserGlue.js: fix 2 nits. r=mak77 a=(desktop-only).
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1607. # [17:25] * philor actually looks at his existing logs
1608. # [17:25] <Yoric> But what I don't understand is how/when a job is starred with a bug.
1609. # [17:25] <philor> so, xpcshell only sticks the output from a test into the log when it fails?
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1611. # [17:26] <philor> and timing out without output doesn't actually get its output up to that point into the log?
1612. # [17:26] <mbrubeck> Yoric: Whenever a test run fails, whoever is watching the tree will examine each failure, and either file a new bug (as mak did) or comment with an existing bug.
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1615. # [17:26] <mbrubeck> philor, Yoric: Looks like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500388 is to blame for the missing logging.
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1617. # [17:27] <philor> ah indeed
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1619. # [17:28] <mak> well, on success it's still useless logging, but timeout should indeed print something
1620. # [17:28] * philor decides not to investigate how mak filed that bug from his account
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1622. # [17:29] <mak> ahah, indeed I didn't file it
1623. # [17:29] <Yoric> mbrubeck: Ok, thanks.
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1627. # [17:30] <Yoric> (and thanks for adding the blocker)
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1630. # [17:32] <philor> might be another xpcshell bug, about having it manage its own timeouts rather than waiting for buildbot to kill it
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1634. # [17:34] <philor> bug 597064
1635. # [17:35] <philor> little short on the details of why in comment 0 :)
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1640. # [17:38] <mak> if ted said that, it's enough of a reason
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1645. # [17:39] <Yoric> Bye everyone.
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1652. # [17:41] <ekr> is there an equivalent tool to webkit-patch apply-from-bug for firefox?
1653. # [17:41] <ekr> I.e., to apply patches to your local repo out of bugzille?
1654. # [17:41] <gcp> qimport/qexport?
1655. # [17:41] <gcp> err bzimport/bzexport or smt
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1657. # [17:42] <jdm> yep, those are the tools
1658. # [17:42] <jdm> there are equivalent ones for git as well
1659. # [17:42] <jdm> qimportbz, by the way
1660. # [17:42] <jdm> it's a delightful asymmetric naming scheme
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1662. # [17:42] <ekr> link?
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1664. # [17:43] <ekr> I know about bzexport but didn't realize there were others :)
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1666. # [17:45] <ekr> oh, never mind. I found it. thanks
1667. # [17:45] <jdm> uh oh, the original page is missing
1668. # [17:45] <jdm> robarnold: ping
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1670. # [17:45] <jdm> aha
1671. # [17:45] <ekr> this appears to be it: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/robarnold_cmu.edu/qimportbz/summary
1672. # [17:45] <jdm> http://robarnold.org/2009/06/02/hg-qimport-my-bugzilla-patch-redux.html
1673. # [17:46] <jdm> robarnold: unping
1674. # [17:46] <AryehGregor> Regular old "hg qimport" accepts a URL as an argument, doesn't it?
1675. # [17:46] <ekr> thanks. this will improve my life
1676. # [17:46] <AryehGregor> Why the need for a separate utility?
1677. # [17:46] <jdm> AryehGregor: because with this you can just give a bug number and download all the patches at once
1678. # [17:46] <AryehGregor> Hmm, I see.
1679. # [17:46] <jdm> hg qimport bz:123456
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1681. # [17:47] <ekr> Is this smart about multiple revisions of the same patch?
1682. # [17:47] <philor> if people are smart about obsoleting them it is
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1684. # [17:48] <ekr> so sort of :)
1685. # [17:48] <ekr> Thanks.
1686. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> "if people are smart"
1687. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> So, no
1688. # [17:48] <jdm> oh ye of little faith
1689. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> Yes?
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1756. # [18:26] <bent> ugh, busted .pyc file screws me again
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1765. # [18:33] <ekr> I'm running bzexport and getting:
1766. # [18:34] <ekr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1584106
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1770. # [18:36] <mbrubeck> ekr: Hmm, that's inside an error handler in urlopen... https://hg.mozilla.org/users/tmielczarek_mozilla.com/bzexport/file/a8ebbe6e3ddc/bzexport.py#l96
1771. # [18:36] <mbrubeck> Oh I see, Error: HTTP Error 405: Method Not Allowed
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1774. # [18:36] <ekr> I wonder if it's an authentication failrue
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1776. # [18:37] <ekr> But I did check my password twice :)
1777. # [18:37] <mbrubeck> and your email? :)
1778. # [18:37] <ekr> y
1779. # [18:38] <ekr> I did:
1780. # [18:38] <ekr> hg bzexport security-framework newbug
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1782. # [18:39] <ekr> oh, I think I have the syntax wrong
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1788. # [18:41] <ekr> oh, that worked. just a bad error message
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1790. # [18:43] <jdm> ekr: what was the problem?
1791. # [18:43] <ekr> Instead of "newbug" as the bug number, I needed to use --new
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1793. # [18:43] <ekr> So my fault for using the wrong syntax. tool's fault for not telling me:)
1794. # [18:44] <jdm> ah, I see
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1803. # [18:47] <gabor> Ms2ger: you told me to let you know when it's online: http://blog.mozilla.org/gabor/?p=1 some style changes are planned ofc...
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1805. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> gabor, I read it, it has a lot of sentences that start with "So" ;)
1806. # [18:49] <gabor> Ms2ger: so? ;)
1807. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> :)
1808. # [18:49] <jdm> ooh, I'm excited to read this
1809. # [18:49] <gabor> Ms2ger: alright I'll try to keep an eye open for thatn next time
1810. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> gabor, or you could have sheppy-lunch do a bit of copyediting ;)
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1812. # [18:52] <gabor> sheepy-lunch: let me know if you're interested and I'll give you access to it right away :)
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1854. # [19:14] <@bsmedberg> omg, webex sucks
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1857. # [19:15] <jwir3> bsmedberg: Indeed. I had to deal with that for 2 years at my old company. It was their only conferencing software
1858. # [19:15] <@bsmedberg> it has offered to install the webex plugin into every Firefox install except the one I actually use
1859. # [19:15] <@bsmedberg> by dropping the file into some location
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1882. # [19:35] <mcot> nice blog on security wrappers
1883. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> gabor++ indeed
1884. # [19:36] <mcot> someone needs to do one on docshell :)
1885. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> smaug, ^ :)
1886. # [19:36] <gabor> thanks
1887. # [19:37] <mcot> the first paragraph made me laugh since I just asked a question about xpconnect on here and got an interesting set of responses
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1896. # [19:41] <@smaug> Ms2ger: :p
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1898. # [19:42] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I put web components review before docshell cleanup in my todo list
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1900. # [19:45] <mcot> I may evenetually write down something about what Ive learned looking at the code itself
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1902. # [19:46] <mcot> but most of the links here are outdated or dead https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DocShell
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1919. # [19:54] <@ehsan> mconley: did your bisection finish?
1920. # [19:54] <@bz> a=tracking-firefox is the magic word?
1921. # [19:54] <mconley> ehsan: I'm closing in on it
1922. # [19:54] <@ehsan> cool
1923. # [19:54] <@ehsan> bz: a=anything is a magic word
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1926. # [19:54] <@ehsan> bz: the script looks for "a="
1927. # [19:54] <mconley> ehsan: I posted a revision range in the bug.
1928. # [19:54] <@bz> well, sure
1929. # [19:54] <@bz> I meant for humans
1930. # [19:55] <@ehsan> mconley: which bug?
1931. # [19:55] <@bz> clearly I could a=lumpy for the script
1932. # [19:55] <philor> a=pecked-to-death-by-ducks
1933. # [19:55] <@ehsan> bz: yes
1934. # [19:55] <@bz> ehsan: thanks
1935. # [19:55] <mconley> ehsan: bug 746993
1936. # [19:55] * @bz wonders whether he should try for the trifecta
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1938. # [19:56] <@ehsan> mconley: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f73c94b04ea perhaps?
1939. # [19:56] <mconley> ehsan: oh my, yes, that might be it
1940. # [19:57] <@ehsan> mconley: you can try backing out that patch locally and see if it makes a difference
1941. # [19:57] <mconley> ehsan: good idea
1942. # [19:57] <@ehsan> if it does, I can tell you how to debug it :)
1943. # [19:57] <mconley> whee
1944. # [19:57] <mconley> :D
1945. # [19:57] <@ehsan> thanks!
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1972. # [20:16] <mconley> ehsan: good call - bug 743632 seems to introduce the problem.
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1975. # [20:17] <@ehsan> mconley: ok, can you setup a debugging session, and I'll stop by your desk in a min?
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1979. # [20:17] <mconley> ehsan: sure - I'll let you know when I'm ready.
1980. # [20:17] <@ehsan> cool
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1995. # [20:23] <gavin> khuey|away: bug for you! bug 746207
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1997. # [20:23] <philor> Waldo: I'm right here!
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2001. # [20:25] <Waldo> coincidentally I happen to be wearing a camo shirt today, too
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2005. # [20:25] <@bz> urban, suburban, desert, forest, or exurban?
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2007. # [20:26] <mconley> ehsan: all set
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2009. # [20:26] <mconley> l
2010. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> ehsan, woo, looks like people liked their GetNextHTMLSibling wrong :)
2011. # [20:26] <jbuck> Waldo: ping
2012. # [20:26] <Waldo> jbuck: pong
2013. # [20:26] <mconley> Ms2ger: just Thunderbird, it seems. :)
2014. # [20:26] <jbuck> woah, fast. I was wondering if you had a few minutes to talk about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501739 ?
2015. # [20:27] <Waldo> jbuck: sure, what's up?
2016. # [20:28] <jbuck> I just wanted to verify whether that reobj->zeroLastIndex() was meant to be in there or not (in the patch, I removed it)
2017. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> bjacob, don't forget your review in bug 711843 :)
2018. # [20:30] <bjacob> Ms2ger: yes, will do. hard for me, as i dont know this api.
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2020. # [20:30] <Ms2ger> It's pretty well documented in the API patch
2021. # [20:30] <Waldo> jbuck: hmm; that looks like someone was doing a straightforward implementation of the spec (modulo sticky)...then it veered completely off into left field
2022. # [20:32] <jbuck> heh
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2031. # [20:34] * Waldo wonders if he has blame on this
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2033. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> Of course you do
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2035. # [20:37] <Waldo> the recent history of that line's kind of amusing
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2037. # [20:37] <Waldo> it's a schizophrenic series of switches between . and -> to call the method
2038. # [20:37] <AryehGregor> philor, what's the difference between bugs 684125 and 689595?
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2040. # [20:40] <Waldo> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/f75602c6e521/js/src/jsregexp.cpp is the approximate progeny of the current code structure
2041. # [20:40] <Waldo> the null weird case may just be really really old
2042. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, is bug 689595 the one you meant?
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2044. # [20:40] <jbuck> Waldo: the bug was originally filed back in 2009, so that's entirely possible :)
2045. # [20:41] <AryehGregor> Um, probably not.
2046. # [20:41] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, philor, that's 589595, not 689595/
2047. # [20:41] <AryehGregor> .
2048. # [20:41] <AryehGregor> I can't copy-paste easily out of tbpl because it's in the middle of a link.
2049. # [20:42] * AryehGregor hits both of those at once a lot and never knows which to pick
2050. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> The crash, apparently
2051. # [20:42] <Waldo> yeah, I think I've bottomed out on archaeologizing here
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2058. # [20:46] <Waldo> now to figure out if the change is correct, hmm
2059. # [20:46] <philor> AryehGregor: the difference is which one comes first :|
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2062. # [20:48] <philor> it doesn't matter which you pick, since media/ is of the opinion that they are entirely the results of an old library on the test slaves, and releng is of the opinion that everything should work with an unupdated distro from years ago
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2064. # [20:49] <jbuck> Waldo: I don't know where to find the spec for sticky bit (is there even a spec somewhere?) but the ES5 spec is pretty clear that you update the lastIndex when it's global, and leave it alone otherwise
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2067. # [20:49] <sheppy> Is there anything in bug 672681 that needs particularly calling out to developers? Looks like there's no API change, just an implementation change.
2068. # [20:49] <Waldo> jbuck: sticky is an extension that only we implement; that's not my concern here
2069. # [20:49] <jbuck> gotcha
2070. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> sheppy, sounds like an API change
2071. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> sheppy, at least in contract, if not in signature
2072. # [20:50] <sheppy> It looks like one, but there's no IDL change, so I'm stumped.
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2075. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> mak, ^
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2079. # [20:53] <sheppy> calls to addDownload() don't seem to have changed...
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2082. # [20:55] <sheppy> Looks like Android and desktop now have different CIDs for NS_IHISTORY_CONTRACTID.
2083. # [20:55] <mak> sheppy: there should be no api change
2084. # [20:55] <sheppy> Er, NS_DOWNLOADHISTORY_CONTRACTID.
2085. # [20:55] <mak> sheppy: the difference is just that you can't expect anymore it being applied synchronously
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2088. # [20:56] <sheppy> OK, that's easy then.
2089. # [20:56] <mak> yes, android native doesn't use places
2090. # [20:56] <sheppy> Right
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2098. # [20:59] <Waldo> gah, I haven't looked at these algorithms in too long :-\
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2100. # [20:59] <Waldo> and we optimize on the spec steps, which makes the correspondence harder to double-check
2101. # [20:59] <Waldo> not that I think that was the wrong thing to do
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2111. # [21:05] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: GetNextHTMLSibling?
2112. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> editor
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2115. # [21:07] <kaie> how much RAM do I need on a Mac to build Firefox/Thunderbird? are 2 GB sufficient?
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2118. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Sufficient, probably
2119. # [21:07] <bkero> I think it takes 3gb to link, but if you have swap you should be fine
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2121. # [21:07] <kaie> ok sounds. sounds like I should go with 4gb
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2123. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> 4 is reasonable
2124. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> 8 is good-ish
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2127. # [21:09] <mcot> 8 is only good-ish :)
2128. # [21:09] <jdm> kaie: you can do it with 2 with special linker flags in gcc
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2132. # [21:10] <kaie> jdm, I'll prefer not having to tweak the standard flags
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2135. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> kaie, if this is for a work computer, get 8
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2137. # [21:11] <@bz> kaie: get 8
2138. # [21:12] <@bz> kaie: since mac is 64-bit by default
2139. # [21:12] <@bz> kaie: and hence you can actually _use_ 8
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2142. # [21:12] <kaie> Ms2ger, it's for an automated build machine. I want to order a hosted mac at macminicolo.net. It's primary purpose will be for NSS automated testing, but I want to have the freedom to occassionally run a firefox build.
2143. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> 8, definitely
2144. # [21:13] <kaie> I won't need to run anything on it besides building and testing
2145. # [21:13] <kaie> ok
2146. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> We want our results fast ;)
2147. # [21:13] <kaie> heh. I might have to pay on my own.
2148. # [21:14] <jbuck> kaie: the mac minis fit 16GB, so you could do that
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2162. # [21:19] <NeilAway> taras: I like Dan's idea of being able to freeze a background tab
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2165. # [21:20] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
2166. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> Sup
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2168. # [21:21] <NeilAway> kaie: my vm has 0.5GB of RAM and 1GB of swap and it can still link SeaMonkey
2169. # [21:21] <taras> NeilAway: yeah
2170. # [21:21] <taras> NeilAway: can we disable js per-tab?
2171. # [21:21] <kaie> NeilAway, that's good to know! thanks
2172. # [21:21] <taras> maybe that's thats the way to do it
2173. # [21:22] <NeilAway> taras: well, you have to worry about plugins and timeouts and stuff, I'm not sure how easy that is
2174. # [21:22] <taras> NeilAway: i mean an extension could do it
2175. # [21:22] <taras> "freeze tabs after 5min of inactivity"
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2177. # [21:23] <NeilAway> taras: well, I don't know of an api specifically to freeze a tab
2178. # [21:23] <taras> NeilAway: ie disable js in that tab
2179. # [21:23] <taras> and plugins :)
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2181. # [21:23] <taras> but yeah, i dont know if it's possible
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2183. # [21:24] <NeilAway> taras: you'd need to talk to someone nearer to the core code
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2185. # [21:24] <sheppy> Ha... an interface that's scriptable but only contains one, noscript, method.
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2187. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> Mark_Capella, there are a lot of implementations of nsINode::Clone, but I think doing just CopyInnerTo would be useful already
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2190. # [21:25] <Mark_Capella> ms2ger: Ok ... ill start with CopyInnerTo as in the patch comments I left
2191. # [21:25] <Ms2ger> OK, thanks!
2192. # [21:26] <Mark_Capella> np ... gotta get out of a11y more often :p
2193. # [21:26] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: I realise that GetNextHTMLSibling relates to editor, because you were talking to ehsan :-P but I've now found the reference to bug 743632
2194. # [21:27] <@ehsan> yeah
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2197. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I knew why I'd let you write that patch :)
2198. # [21:28] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: well, mconley is fixing the regression
2199. # [21:28] <@ehsan> so all in all it worked pretty well for me ;)
2200. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> :)
2201. # [21:29] <mconley> woo
2202. # [21:30] <Ms2ger> Waldo, http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2pd585sKY1rrf1eeo1_400.jpg
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2206. # [21:32] <mak> bz: looks like you may have broken m-o
2207. # [21:32] <edmorley> ah, was about to back out
2208. # [21:32] <taras> jst: should we risk a meeting at 1pm today?
2209. # [21:32] <mak> edmorley: oh sorry, didn't mean to stop the backout party
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2211. # [21:33] <taras> jst: or 2pm might work too
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2213. # [21:33] <@bz> mak: looking
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2215. # [21:34] <@bz> mak: ack
2216. # [21:34] <@bz> mak: want me to back it out, or is edmorley doing that already?
2217. # [21:35] <mak> I think edmorley was backing out
2218. # [21:35] <@bz> ok
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2225. # [21:40] <cadecairos> roc: ping
2226. # [21:40] <Mook_as> sheppy: that lets you hold on to it from script, IIRC
2227. # [21:40] <sheppy> Mook_as: ah
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2229. # [21:40] <philor> but who's backing out cpeterson?
2230. # [21:41] <cjones> is hg blame not working for anyone else?
2231. # [21:41] <cjones> on hg.mozilla.org
2232. # [21:41] <cjones> huh there it goes
2233. # [21:42] <edmorley> bah, tree hook got my backout
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2241. # [21:53] <cpeterson> philor, do you know if anyone is backing out my change yet? I burned Android XUL and am looking to backout. :\
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2244. # [21:56] <edmorley> cpeterson: doing it now
2245. # [21:57] <cpeterson> edmorley, thanks for your help.
2246. # [21:57] <edmorley> cpeterson: np :-)
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2280. # [22:31] <@roc> cadecairos: hi
2281. # [22:32] <cadecairos> hey roc, I'm running into some weird behaviour with 517363
2282. # [22:32] <cadecairos> seems to not be respecting borders
2283. # [22:33] <cadecairos> hmm
2284. # [22:34] <cadecairos> is it because of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsVideoFrame.cpp#266 perhaps
2285. # [22:34] <cadecairos> probably is now that I think of it. since I'm using aMetrics for the scaling process
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2287. # [22:36] <@roc> right
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2301. # [22:45] <mconley> ehsan: hey - given some parent node, and some child node, is there a function for determining the offset for the child inside the parent?
2302. # [22:45] <@ehsan> yes
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2304. # [22:45] <@ehsan> is this in editor?
2305. # [22:46] <mconley> ehsan: this is in script, in my reftest
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2307. # [22:46] <@ehsan> oh
2308. # [22:46] <mconley> ehsan: I'm trying to find a nice way to place the caret in my reference page
2309. # [22:46] <@ehsan> then no, I don't think so
2310. # [22:46] <@ehsan> hmm
2311. # [22:46] <@ehsan> selection.collapse
2312. # [22:46] <@ehsan> does that for you
2313. # [22:46] <@ehsan> as in getSelection().collapse(node, offset)
2314. # [22:47] <mconley> ehsan: where node is the child?
2315. # [22:47] <@ehsan> no, the parent
2316. # [22:47] <mconley> ehsan: Right - so I need to determine the offset
2317. # [22:47] <mconley> ehsan: I guess I just hard-code that mutha in there, since this is a reftest?
2318. # [22:47] <@ehsan> hold on
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2320. # [22:49] <mkaply> I feel like a newb. It's been way to long since I've done this. So which tree is the one to watch after I checkin? And after the commit, what does the hg push line look like?
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2328. # [22:52] <@ehsan> mkaply: you don't need to watch anything, things which go on inbound you can forget about :)
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2337. # [22:56] <mbrubeck> mkaply: If you've only pulled from one tree and haven't done weird things to your repo, then just "hg push" should push back to that tree.
2338. # [22:57] <mbrubeck> If you've pulled from mozilla-central and want to push to inbound, see http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html
2339. # [22:58] <taras> bz: are you gonna make it to the 2pm meeting i scheduled?
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2341. # [22:58] <taras> ie one in 10min
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2343. # [22:58] <taras> bsmedberg: ^
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2350. # [23:04] <NeilAway> mconley: you could create a range, select the node, and it would tell you the parent and offset
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2352. # [23:05] <mconley> NeilAway: oh, neat, thanks.
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2354. # [23:06] <bent> taras, we doing this thing at 2?
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2356. # [23:06] <taras> bent: you/nathan confirmed
2357. # [23:06] <taras> nobody said no
2358. # [23:06] <taras> bent: so we'll see in 5-10min for sure :(
2359. # [23:07] <bent> bz, bsmedberg, roc?
2360. # [23:07] <bent> oh jst
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2371. # [23:11] <mkaply> mbrubeck: So what is inbound versus the main tree? Do things start there and if the succeed go to central?
2372. # [23:12] <mbrubeck> mkaply: Yes, exactly.
2373. # [23:12] <mkaply> I'm pretty sure I pulled from central
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2376. # [23:12] <mbrubeck> mkaply: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules has some details -- the only real difference is that you don't need to watch the tree after pushing to inbound.
2377. # [23:12] <mkaply> So should I have pulled from inbound instead of central?
2378. # [23:13] <mbrubeck> and it will take about 1 day longer for your changes to land in central/nightly.
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2380. # [23:13] <mbrubeck> mkaply: You can easily create an inbound clone based on your m-c clone, using the steps in http://jlebar.com/2011/5/20/Faster_and_smaller_clones_of_branches.html
2381. # [23:13] <mbrubeck> or you can do what I do which is to pull from both repos into the same local clone, and use "hg push -rtip inbound" (for example) to push to one or the other
2382. # [23:14] <mbrubeck> but that gets a little complicated since various hg commands don't work well be default if you have pulled from different remote repositories without merging, so I don't recommend it unless you understand what you're getting into.
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2385. # [23:15] <mbrubeck> Or you can simply push to m-c if you don't mind watching TBPL afterwards.
2386. # [23:16] <mkaply> mbrubeck: Since this is my first commit in a while, I think I'd rather go to inbound :)
2387. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> good plan :)
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2391. # [23:17] <mbrubeck> mkaply: You're aware of the current approval rules, too? (See the Tree Rules link above.)
2392. # [23:17] <mkaply> mbrubeck: Yep. It's already approved.
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2395. # [23:17] <mbrubeck> cool
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2398. # [23:18] <mbrubeck> By the way, if we are talking about bug 278860 then ehsan already landed it this afternoon...
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2404. # [23:22] <mkaply> mbrubeck: ha! That's funny. Well, I learned something at least
2405. # [23:22] <mbrubeck> :)
2406. # [23:23] <mkaply> I had put checkin-needed because my hg account wasn't working
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2423. # [23:31] <philikon> how does approval work on the trees now?
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2432. # [23:33] <philikon> ah, tree rules actually explains it
2433. # [23:33] <philikon> yay
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2442. # [23:35] <daoberes> hello, everyone! i've been playing around with where to place mimeTypes.rdf so that profiles will be created with that rdf file
2443. # [23:35] <daoberes> apparently, core/defaults/profile is a good place
2444. # [23:36] <jrmuizel> ehsan: ping
2445. # [23:36] <jrmuizel> ehsan: ping
2446. # [23:36] <jrmuizel> ehsan: ping
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2448. # [23:36] <stuart> heh
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2450. # [23:36] <@ehsan> jrmuizel got what he deserved
2451. # [23:36] <@ehsan> ;)
2452. # [23:37] <daoberes> but as far as i can tell, you can only "customize" the rdf file so that "always ask" is reflected in all profiles, but anything like save to disk or opening a content type with a specfic application isn't "good"
2453. # [23:37] <daoberes> can anybody explain why that is?
2454. # [23:37] <@ehsan> bz: ping
2455. # [23:37] <@ehsan> hmm
2456. # [23:37] <@ehsan> jduell: ping
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2458. # [23:37] <@ehsan> or anyone else who knows about necko
2459. # [23:39] <mbrubeck> daoberes: I have no idea, but it makes me wonder if those other choices are stored in some other location in the profile, outside of mimeTypes.rdf?
2460. # [23:42] <daoberes> mbrubeck: hmm, i never considered that. i would understand why it would refuse opening content types with a specific application since that would be specific to a machine's dir
2461. # [23:42] <daoberes> thanks, tho
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2465. # [23:43] <jimm> ehsan: ping
2466. # [23:43] <@ehsan> jimm: hi
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2468. # [23:44] <jimm> ehsan: hey, rs suggested cc'ing you in on bug 744942. hope you don't mind. if you have any ideas, please post them.
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2472. # [23:44] <jimm> ehsan: we're currently looking at modifying the crt dlls as a possible option
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2475. # [23:45] <@ehsan> jimm: ok
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2479. # [23:45] <@ehsan> jimm: did ms start shipping the build scripts in 11?
2480. # [23:45] <jimm> nope
2481. # [23:45] <@ehsan> jimm: cause I asked them about 10 and they said they won't
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2484. # [23:45] <jimm> ehsan: missing obj files prevents us from doing our own build afaict.
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2488. # [23:47] <@ehsan> jimm: missing obj files?
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2496. # [23:49] <jimm> ehsan: the crt source that came with the batch build scripts also came with a number of obj files for code that wasn't released. looking over the v11 crt src, those aren't present.
2497. # [23:49] <@ehsan> ok I see
2498. # [23:49] <@ehsan> jimm: so what's the proposed solution? do we have one?
2499. # [23:49] <jimm> I did try doing a build using the old build scripts, but things have changed too much, they failed pretty early on.
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2503. # [23:50] <@ehsan> yeah, I tried that with vc10 too
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2512. # [23:51] <jimm> ehsan: not yet, kicking around ideas. currently looking at modifying the import table of the ms dlls and including our own lib for the routines that don't exist. although there maybe be issues with this with the license.
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2515. # [23:52] <@ehsan> jimm: ok, so I'll read the bug and will think about it
2516. # [23:52] <@ehsan> jimm: (I'm currently working on something else, haven't read the bug yet)
2517. # [23:53] <jimm> ehsan: cool, thanks
2518. # [23:53] <jimm> no rush
2519. # [23:53] <@ehsan> np!
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