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40. # [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/900945f9909a - Myk Melez - bug 746629 - package webapp-uninstaller.exe on Windows so it is available to the webapp installer; r=felipe, a=desktop-only
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95. # [00:23] <jduell> ehsan: did you get your info?
96. # [00:23] <@ehsan> jduell: no, but I worked around the problem, thanks!
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98. # [00:23] <jduell> mmmK
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116. # [00:30] * Topic is 'm-c is APPROVAL-REQUIRED, see http://goo.gl/rUYkY for details || Next uplift: 24th April || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
117. # [00:30] * Set by gavin on Tue Apr 17 20:15:14
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119. # [00:32] <philor> bent: different self-serve host (and not using rck for both robocheck and robocheck2, but that's less exciting)
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123. # [00:35] <BenWa> how do I show hidden tests in TBPL?
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127. # [00:35] <mattwoodrow> BenWa: append &noignore=1 to the url
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129. # [00:35] <BenWa> ty
130. # [00:36] <jhammel> noignore=1....forsooth
131. # [00:36] <jhammel> dontnotignore=BooleanFalse
132. # [00:36] <BenWa> haha
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134. # [00:37] <IanN> anyone else getting cxa_guard_acquire error and build process failing?
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136. # [00:39] <bnicholson> Honza, dcamp: ping
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145. # [00:46] <RyanVM> roc: ping
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148. # [00:46] <RyanVM> roc: should checkin-needed also be removed from bug 745676?
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152. # [00:48] <roc> yes, done
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175. # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3e2557ca55d6 - Kyle Huey - Bug 746834: Fix the test for Bug 575561 to not use DOM objects after navigating the Window. r=dao a=test-only
176. # [01:05] <Ameya> where can i get names of interfaces which deals with user specific parameters.
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178. # [01:08] <Ameya> I mean such as nsIPasswordManager, nsIPasswordManagerInternal, nsICookiemanager
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181. # [01:09] <Ameya> ehsan: right now i m checking on only nsICokkiemanager, nsIPropertises & file handling...
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195. # [01:17] <mbrubeck> Ameya: You're looking for interfaces that deal with users' personal data? You could start by looking at interfaces used by the "clear private data" code at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/sanitize.js
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204. # [01:20] <Ameya> ok..
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207. # [01:21] <Ameya> mbrubeck:what does it tell exaclty?
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210. # [01:23] <Ameya> mbrubeck:you there?
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213. # [01:23] <mbrubeck> Ameya: Well, reading through that code you can find things like nsIBrowserHistory and nsIFormHistory2 -- is that the sort of thing you are looking for?
214. # [01:24] <Ameya> Yes... i checked it
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216. # [01:24] <Ameya> mbrubeck:I m checking whether addons are trying to read personal data in private browsing or not..
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218. # [01:25] <Ameya> mbrubeck: for small scale right now i m monitoring cookiemanager & filehandling interfaces.
219. # [01:25] <mbrubeck> Ameya: Ah, so you are building a list of things to scan for in add-on code?
220. # [01:25] <Ameya> yes
221. # [01:25] <@smaug> addons can always open any file in the file system and read data from there
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223. # [01:25] <Ameya> yup.. I am preventing them from writing on file
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227. # [01:26] <Ameya> mbrubeck: ex. they can track cookies at the end of private browsing session & store on file which is wrong.
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229. # [01:27] <Ameya> i m notifying user if any such thing happens....
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232. # [01:28] <Ameya> mbrubeck: So i need to extend this to remaining sensitive interfaces as well
233. # [01:28] <biesi> wow, that seems really hard / perhaps impossible
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237. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> Yeah, it seems like truly malicious add-ons could probably find a way around any such sandbox... though this might be good for finding add-ons that *accidentally* record data in private browsing mode.
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239. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> like https://github.com/toolness/collusion/issues/66
240. # [01:31] <mbrubeck> Ameya: You might also want to look at all the code that calls the private browsing service. You might find more "sensitive" interfaces there: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=nsIPrivateBrowsingService
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242. # [01:31] <Ameya> biesi: I dont know...but for now i m monitoring getservice() code & finding url of script that calls sensitive interfaces via xpconnect stackframe & checking whether that URL belongs to any of addon's src
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245. # [01:32] <biesi> Ameya, what if it does window.setTimeout(0, "write some stuff") ?
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249. # [01:33] <jlebar|mac> So…changes which have no effect on mobile can be pushed to m-i? Like, it's not just "desktop-only," right? b2g-only is OK too?
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252. # [01:34] <Ameya> biesi: Yeh....actually its difficult to monitor JS which is not specific to firefox. like document.location.href
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254. # [01:35] <biesi> or if it does it in an event handler
255. # [01:35] <Ameya> Ya
256. # [01:35] <biesi> I guess what I'm saying is, if you care about stealthy addons, you can't just worry about the holes that you can easily fix
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259. # [01:35] <Ameya> but as long as they store outside firefox boundary it no problem. Bcoz to retrieve captured info once browser closed they need to store somewhere .. most general files.
260. # [01:36] <Ameya> *they dont store*
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262. # [01:36] <Ameya> change in above sentence
263. # [01:36] <@smaug> jlebar|mac: tree rules are pretty clear
264. # [01:37] <@smaug> jlebar|mac: a=b2g-only is ok, but only if it touches certain directories
265. # [01:37] <Ameya> biesi: what do you say?
266. # [01:37] <jlebar|mac> smaug: You mean, but only if it only touches certain directories?
267. # [01:37] <biesi> Ameya, I don't follow
268. # [01:37] <biesi> Ameya, why does that make it fine?
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270. # [01:37] <@smaug> jlebar|mac: right
271. # [01:38] <jlebar|mac> smaug: Okay.
272. # [01:38] <mbrubeck> I'm not sure blassey's list in https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.planning/CtbHEWOYZig/CIGaTw4Gl7cJ was really meant to be exhaustive
273. # [01:38] <mbrubeck> for example, I think we'd be fine with stuff in widget/gonk or other things that are obviously NPOTB for fennec.
274. # [01:39] <mbrubeck> but at the moment https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules has a hard-coded list
275. # [01:39] <Ameya> biesi: like if you capture suppose history or cookie & you want to know what is it after you close browser you need to store that info somewhere...
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279. # [01:41] <Ameya> may be in file.... So i think writing to file should not be allowed to addons in private browsing
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281. # [01:41] <mbrubeck> Ameya: Of course you could also store it to a server
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283. # [01:41] <mbrubeck> so anything that can make a network connection would need to be outlawed
284. # [01:42] <mbrubeck> XMLHttpRequest, loading a URL in a new tab, adding an <img src="..."> element to a document, ...
285. # [01:42] <Mook_as> and the registry. and a hidden window to be scraped on a different app on the system.
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287. # [01:42] <@dolske> josh: ping?
288. # [01:43] <jtcranmer> or you could buffer, wait until you're out of private browsing, and then dump it?
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290. # [01:43] <jtcranmer> or use ctypes
291. # [01:43] <Ameya> buffer where ?
292. # [01:43] <biesi> yeah, what they said :)
293. # [01:43] <jtcranmer> that's a great way to be unanalyzable, use ctypes
294. # [01:43] <biesi> Ameya, and my point was you can't always tell that it was an addon that was writing to a file
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296. # [01:44] <jtcranmer> or define your own custom loader that loads encrypted JS that can't be analyzed
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300. # [01:45] <Ameya> may be but this is what i think is vulnerable in firefox. Something should be done to prevent this
301. # [01:46] <jtcranmer> the only way to truly lock down private browsing is to kick out all add-ons
302. # [01:46] <jtcranmer> which wouldn't be well-received, I think
303. # [01:46] <biesi> that's sort of the chrome approach
304. # [01:46] <Ameya> biesi: i know mine is not at all complete solution but this problem needs to addressed at least we should reduce probability of happing this
305. # [01:47] <Ameya> *happening
306. # [01:47] <RyanVM> mats: are your DBLI patches far enough along that it would be useful to create a Try build to see what affect they have on some of the dependent bugs?
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309. # [01:47] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: did you mean me?
310. # [01:47] <RyanVM> yes
311. # [01:47] <RyanVM> long day
312. # [01:47] <mattwoodrow> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=28a6e68ab2de
313. # [01:47] <mbrubeck> Ameya: Well, all AMO add-ons are code reviewed for privacy violations, and we show scary warnings to users who install non-AMO add-ons. So there are *some* steps already taken to mitigate the problem.
314. # [01:48] <mattwoodrow> anything except android native is ready for testing
315. # [01:48] <mbrubeck> Also, if an add-on is malicious, I'm just as worried about what it does with my data when I'm not in private browsing mode.
316. # [01:48] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: cool
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320. # [01:50] <Ameya> biesi: yes but consider if i created addon for someother purpose along with spying data & distributed in my university. then FF community wont come there to check whether its safe or not..
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322. # [01:51] <biesi> it would need a major rethinking of how addons work, I think
323. # [01:52] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: I'm going to try get the current patches landed before looking at too many more optimizations
324. # [01:52] <Ameya> biesi: my whole point is browser should have capability to do some filtering at its level. i mean it should take care of itself.
325. # [01:52] <RyanVM> ok
326. # [01:52] <aja> did i see that Chrome (canary?) is now disabling all extensions in private mode?
327. # [01:53] <biesi> aja, you always had to specifically enable extensions individually for private mode, afaik (in chrome)
328. # [01:53] <RyanVM> i thought that was already default behavior
329. # [01:53] <RyanVM> i know i had to allow abp in pb mode
330. # [01:53] <aja> could well be....haven't run any extensions in it till very recently
331. # [01:54] <jtcranmer> Ameya: the problem is that there are so many ways to do it that we cannot possibly close all of the loopholes
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333. # [01:54] <Ameya> Yes right... atleast try to protect potential or most obvious ways...
334. # [01:54] <jtcranmer> [e.g., use ctypes + fopen/fwrite, etc.]
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336. # [01:55] <Mossop> Is there anyway to filter out the fact that I receive multiple DOMMouseScroll per "tick" of my scroll wheel?
337. # [01:55] <Ameya> biesi: i discussed this with jdm, ehan.
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339. # [01:55] <biesi> Ameya, ok. anyway, I don't have any authority on this topic
340. # [01:55] <biesi> I should get back to work
341. # [01:56] <jtcranmer> the basic Firefox policy (AIUI) has been "let extensions do what they want, but review addons on AMO according to a stringent policy and explicitly ban known-malicious plugins"
342. # [01:56] <Ameya> no problem... nice talking to you.
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344. # [01:57] <Ameya> jtcranmer: yes correct. but if i created addon for someother purpose along with spying data & distributed in my university. then FF community wont come there to check whether its safe or not..
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346. # [01:58] <jtcranmer> yes, but you could also could probably get around whatever checks we would put in
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348. # [01:58] <Ameya> Ok.. sure.
349. # [01:59] <jtcranmer> it's probably doable to protect against "accidental" maliciousness, but if someone wants to be malicious, it's pretty much impossible to close all the doors without running them in the first place
350. # [01:59] <jtcranmer> er, without not running them
351. # [01:59] <Mook_as> If you want to be malicious, you'd just distribute your addon as an .exe installer...
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354. # [02:00] <jtcranmer> ooh, here's an evil thought
355. # [02:00] <Ameya> Yes... but .exe itself says "i might be dangerous".
356. # [02:00] <biesi> Mook_as, or you'll include a cpp component/...
357. # [02:00] <biesi> in your .xpi
358. # [02:01] <jtcranmer> an addon could use jsctypes to use memory calls to patch the current instance of Firefox
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361. # [02:01] <biesi> xpi also says might be dangerous
362. # [02:01] <Mook_as> cpp component is too much pain, you'd need to recompile it every firefox release :p
363. # [02:01] <jtcranmer> so you could make your addon itself undo the security check
364. # [02:02] <@dolske> what is the current state-of-the-art for returning an array in IDL?
365. # [02:02] <jtcranmer> bwahahahaha
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367. # [02:02] <jtcranmer> "that"
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369. # [02:02] <Mook_as> getFoo([optional] out PRUint32 count, [retval, array, size_is(count)] out IFoo result); I think?
370. # [02:03] <Mossop> jsval?
371. # [02:03] * Mook_as would argue that jsval != idl :p
372. # [02:03] <@dolske> heh
373. # [02:03] <@dolske> doesn't the first form still require JS to pass in an empty object for the outparam?
374. # [02:03] <Ameya> ok fine. Its nearly impossible to prevent completely. but step by step by some ways we can minimize it
375. # [02:04] <Mook_as> no, because [optional]
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378. # [02:04] <@dolske> I was thinking the |result|
379. # [02:05] <biesi> dolske, no, [retval] makes it the actual return value
380. # [02:05] <Mook_as> ah, no, because [retval]
381. # [02:05] <Ameya> biesi: may be you people can think of some efficient way...
382. # [02:05] <Mook_as> of course, if you're c++, sux2bu
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384. # [02:05] <jtcranmer> hmm
385. # [02:06] <@dolske> what's the signature in C++? still rv = getFoo(&count, &ptrs)?
386. # [02:06] <Mook_as> yep
387. # [02:06] <jtcranmer> am I guaranteed that NS_ConvertASCIItoUTF16 will convert a char \xdf to '\u00df' ?
388. # [02:06] <Mook_as> jtcranmer: yes.
389. # [02:06] <@dolske> ah.
390. # [02:06] <jtcranmer> without complaining ever?
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392. # [02:07] <biesi> jtcranmer, nope
393. # [02:07] <biesi> I think
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395. # [02:07] <biesi> I'm not sure
396. # [02:07] <jtcranmer> no, it is not guaranteed, or no, it won't complain
397. # [02:07] <biesi> not guaranteed
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399. # [02:08] <jtcranmer> I'm looking at the source code and it seems that non-sse version does "dest = (PRUnichar)(unsigned char)src"
400. # [02:09] <Ameya> mbrubeck: thnks for help
401. # [02:09] <jtcranmer> and the sse just appears to go "insert 0s between every other char"
402. # [02:09] <mbrubeck> Ameya: You're welcome -- good luck!
403. # [02:09] <Mook_as> yeah, I don't think there's ever going to be a guarantee of not complaining, because there's no concept of being frozen...
404. # [02:10] <jtcranmer> rather, I want to convert a char* string into a "binary" JS string
405. # [02:10] <Jesse> taras: what will the new extension be called? JankBlock Plus?
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407. # [02:10] <taras> Jesse: JankShank Plus
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409. # [02:10] <Mook_as> jtcranmer: what sort of binary JS string?
410. # [02:11] <jtcranmer> a JS string where all the chars are between \x00 and \xff
411. # [02:11] <Mook_as> then yeah, I think NS_ConvertASCIItoUTF16 does what you want
412. # [02:11] <jtcranmer> or, the "binary" encoding according to http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/StringEncoding
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414. # [02:12] <WG9s> mbrubeck: and thanks for the help in getting my patch for bug 745567 landed after I realized it would also fix the issue with "Check For Updates" it seemed to me to be the correct thing to do, despite any approval-required rules.
415. # [02:13] <@dolske> firebot: uuid
416. # [02:13] <firebot> b8bf0a06-e395-4f44-af39-a51d3e7ef4b9 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
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420. # [02:19] <jdm> riddle me this
421. # [02:19] <jdm> I have copied an OS_ARCH check directly from another makefile where it passes
422. # [02:19] <jdm> in this makefile, it does not
423. # [02:19] <jdm> one is in netwerk/test, the other is docshell/test
424. # [02:19] <jdm> whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
425. # [02:19] <jdm> ifneq ($(OS_ARCH),Darwin)
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427. # [02:20] <jesup> jdm: I think you want OS_TARGET
428. # [02:20] <jdm> I don't think so
429. # [02:20] <jdm> there, fixed it
430. # [02:20] <jdm> the relevant test was occurring before including autoconf.mk
431. # [02:20] <jesup> ah
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441. # [02:27] <WG9s> jusup: I believe OS_ARCH is the OS and architencture you are using to do the build. OS_TARGET has to do with the target OS and architecture it all ahs to do with compileing for a different OS and hardware environment.
442. # [02:27] <WG9s> Or cross-compiling as it is called.
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445. # [02:28] <WG9s> Or i think that is how it works (i could be mistaken)
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449. # [02:32] <IanN> anyone else building on Linux 64-bit?
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451. # [02:33] <mbrubeck> IanN: Yes
452. # [02:34] <IanN> don't suppose "/usr/bin/ld: ../../../mozilla/dist/lib/libmozglue.a(double-conversion.o): undefined reference to symbol '__cxa_guard_acquire@@CXXABI_1.3'
453. # [02:34] <IanN> /usr/bin/ld: note: '__cxa_guard_acquire@@CXXABI_1.3' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line
454. # [02:34] <IanN> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation" means anything to you?
455. # [02:35] <mbrubeck> I'm afraid not...
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461. # [02:39] <jesup> WG9s: (who is gone) yea, that's right. I'm just betting there are a lot where ARCH is used and TARGET is correct
462. # [02:39] <jesup> and probably some vice-versa
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465. # [02:42] <njn> roc: I'm glad you started the "Antivirus Hall Of Shame" thread
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482. # [02:52] <jdm> firebot: uuid
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499. # [03:01] <aja> hmmm....post from the future on planet
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503. # [03:02] <mbrubeck> another victim of bug 742834!
504. # [03:03] <mbrubeck> :)
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512. # [03:07] <aja> this one's a week in the future
513. # [03:08] <rhelmer> hah, so will it stay on top for a week?
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529. # [03:23] <heycam> is there a list of all properties we support?
530. # [03:23] <zwol> css properties?
531. # [03:23] <heycam> yeah
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533. # [03:24] <zwol> heycam: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/nsCSSPropList.h is the authoritative source
534. # [03:24] <heycam> zwol, excellent, thanks
535. # [03:24] <zwol> but somewhat lacking in documentation
536. # [03:24] * cjones is now known as cjones-dinner
537. # [03:24] <jtcranmer> huh
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539. # [03:25] <heycam> somewhat hard to read but it'll do :)
540. # [03:25] <jtcranmer> does xpconnect set CStringsAreUTF8?
541. # [03:25] <zwol> also, beware of wild macros
542. # [03:26] <@bz> heycam: hmm?
543. # [03:26] <@bz> heycam: you have two options
544. # [03:26] <@bz> heycam: 1) Be a ppreprocessor
545. # [03:26] <@bz> heycam: 2) run it through cpp with the macro defined to make it easier. ;)
546. # [03:26] <@bz> heycam: what are you really trying to do?
547. # [03:26] <@bz> jtcranmer: absolutely not
548. # [03:26] <@bz> jtcranmer: and if you set it, tests fail. ;)
549. # [03:26] <jtcranmer> so...
550. # [03:27] <jtcranmer> can I assume that xpconnect will do a string conversion that maps \u0000-\u00FF -> \x00-\xFF?
551. # [03:27] <heycam> bz, I need to have some properties set from the UA style sheet so they don't mess up my SVG-using-CSS-text-frames, and though I should look at the list of properties we support to see which ones I should neuter rather than guess
552. # [03:27] <heycam> *thought
553. # [03:27] <@bz> jtcranmer: given what IDL?
554. # [03:27] <jtcranmer> the IDL `string' type
555. # [03:27] <jtcranmer> or IDL `ACString'
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557. # [03:28] <@bz> jtcranmer: ACString, yes
558. # [03:28] <@khuey> Delta email: "Please go to our website to check in"
559. # [03:28] <@khuey> Delta website: "Please go to Virgin Australia's website to check in"
560. # [03:28] <@khuey> VA website: "Please go to the airport to check in"
561. # [03:28] <heycam> haha
562. # [03:28] <jtcranmer> yep, screwed by online checkin
563. # [03:28] <@bz> jtcranmer: checking the other
564. # [03:28] <heycam> Airport: "you've missed your flight"
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566. # [03:28] <@khuey> haha
567. # [03:29] <@khuey> that's ok
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569. # [03:29] <@khuey> I wouldn't mind staying here
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571. # [03:29] <@khuey> might need to negotiate a raise to deal with the cost of living though
572. # [03:29] <@bz> jtcranmer: "string" will.....
573. # [03:30] <ewong> just wondering.. is there still a Mozilla office in Vancouver, or is that just MoMo?
574. # [03:30] <ewong> err ex-MoMo?
575. # [03:30] <@bz> jtcranmer: also work
576. # [03:30] <jtcranmer> okay
577. # [03:30] <@bz> jtcranmer: I was checking whether it would assert, but that code is ifdefed out
578. # [03:30] <jtcranmer> I recall it used to complain bloody murder at you if you did non-ASCII
579. # [03:30] <@bz> #ifdef STRICT_CHECK_OF_UNICODE
580. # [03:30] <@bz> #define ILLEGAL_RANGE(c) (0!=((c) & 0xFF80))
581. # [03:30] <@bz> #else // STRICT_CHECK_OF_UNICODE
582. # [03:30] <@bz> #define ILLEGAL_RANGE(c) (0!=((c) & 0xFF00))
583. # [03:30] <@bz> #endif // STRICT_CHECK_OF_UNICODE
584. # [03:30] <@bz> And before all that
585. # [03:30] <@bz> //#define STRICT_CHECK_OF_UNICODE
586. # [03:31] <@khuey> ewong: there is still a Mozilla office in Vancouver
587. # [03:31] <zwol> *cough* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234856
588. # [03:31] <@bz> So it'll complain on values > 0xFF
589. # [03:31] <jtcranmer> that wfm, then
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591. # [03:32] <njn> khuey: if you lived here you wouldn't eat every meal out in the city
592. # [03:32] <njn> khuey: that'd save some $$$
593. # [03:33] <@khuey> probably true
594. # [03:33] <@bz> khuey: they have cheese there? ;)
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596. # [03:34] <ewong> khuey: nice.. thanks!
597. # [03:34] <jtcranmer> * nsIMsgRFCParser Interface declaration
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599. # [03:34] <jtcranmer> interface nsIMsgHeaderParser : nsISupports {
600. # [03:34] <jtcranmer> just another day in mailnews ...
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605. # [03:34] <@bz> parsing rfcs would be cool
606. # [03:34] <@bz> even just the message rfcs
607. # [03:34] <@bz> in an automated way
608. # [03:35] <jtcranmer> o_O
609. # [03:35] <jtcranmer> those RFCs are weird
610. # [03:35] <@khuey> bz: I assume they do, but most of what we've done has been fairly light on the cheese
611. # [03:35] <@khuey> bz: the hotel is in the middle of chinatown
612. # [03:35] <@bz> ah
613. # [03:35] <bonnie_> khuey: great now i'm thinking of packing my bags and coming back!
614. # [03:35] <zwol> is there a story behind why mailnews code is so legendarily terrible?
615. # [03:36] <@khuey> bonnie_: hah
616. # [03:36] <@bz> there were a few issues
617. # [03:36] <@khuey> bonnie_: its quite nice here
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619. # [03:36] <@bz> one being that necko kept changing under them
620. # [03:36] <@bz> in terms of its API and contract
621. # [03:36] <bonnie_> khuey: and to think i go through u.s. immigration when there is better :D
622. # [03:36] <@bz> another that there were some people who just weren't that good
623. # [03:37] <@bz> and a third that they were understaffed/overworked
624. # [03:37] <@bz> the fact that sspitzer once had ~1000 bugs assigned to him is indicative
625. # [03:37] <@khuey> heh
626. # [03:37] <@khuey> bonnie_: I did actually get asked questions this time
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628. # [03:37] <@khuey> unlike France
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630. # [03:38] <bonnie_> khuey: paris is super lax
631. # [03:38] <@khuey> ###!!! ASSERTION: Wrong bounds: 'bounds.IsEqualInterior(aChildren.GetBounds(aBui
632. # [03:38] <@khuey> lder))', file c:/dev/mozilla-central/layout/base/FrameLayerBuilder.cpp, line 196
633. # [03:38] <@khuey> 6
634. # [03:38] * @khuey wonders how bad that is
635. # [03:38] <@khuey> bonnie_: so I noticed
636. # [03:38] <bonnie_> hahahahaha
637. # [03:38] * lsblakk is now known as lsblakk|afk
638. # [03:38] <bonnie_> you havent seen port of entry in the u.s.
639. # [03:38] <jtcranmer> zwol: for a few years, the number of full-time mailnews contributers was around 2
640. # [03:39] <bonnie_> and i've got one of the easiest visa's too
641. # [03:39] <@bz> khuey: roc or tn would know
642. # [03:39] <bonnie_> but yeah overall paris is super lax
643. # [03:39] <@khuey> us passports are pretty convenient for that
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645. # [03:39] <jtcranmer> zwol: so if you think Gecko has a lot of technical debt, mailnews has orders of magnitude more
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647. # [03:40] <zwol> so, not different in *kind* from the situation in gecko, then, just the usual thing turned up a bit
648. # [03:40] <@khuey> bonnie_: I was a bit amused how all the people from the flight from LA were organized into a few stations and the people on the flight from Dubai were organized onto another few stations
649. # [03:40] <@khuey> and the line from Dubai was going much slower
650. # [03:40] <bonnie_> hahahaha
651. # [03:40] <jtcranmer> and also, somehow, we seem to be unable to convince people to help in that regard
652. # [03:40] <@bz> zwol: I think some of it was different in kind
653. # [03:40] <bonnie_> i usually land with the aussi fleet from brissy, perth, syd, and melb at 7am in the morn
654. # [03:40] <jtcranmer> maybe it's because the things we need "help
655. # [03:41] <bonnie_> so they just let the kangaroos through
656. # [03:41] <jtcranmer> " with include libmime and mork
657. # [03:41] <bonnie_> not too many questions
658. # [03:41] <@bz> zwol: though there are some pretty crappily written parts of Gecko too, of course
659. # [03:41] <@bz> the aussies are sending a fleet?
660. # [03:41] <@bz> run for your lives!
661. # [03:41] <jtcranmer> for which being called "unmaintainable" is a bit flattering
662. # [03:41] <nigelb> bonnie_: hahahaha
663. # [03:41] <jtcranmer> the compose code too is pretty wretched
664. # [03:41] <bonnie_> i mean the flights
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666. # [03:42] <@khuey> bonnie_: how has SF been?
667. # [03:42] <@khuey> I hear there was lightining
668. # [03:42] <zwol> i should go eat dinner
669. # [03:42] <bonnie_> VERY LONELY
670. # [03:42] <bonnie_> no one's around
671. # [03:42] <@khuey> heh
672. # [03:42] <gavin> I saw lightning yesterday
673. # [03:43] <fantasai> dholbert: ping
674. # [03:43] <dholbert> fantasai, pong
675. # [03:43] <bonnie_> anyways i'd better get my mercurial sorted out
676. # [03:43] <bonnie_> laters
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694. # [03:56] <dholbert> bonnie_, I'd be up there, but my team is all traveling :)
695. # [03:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/22bfdebf5cae - Felipe Gomes - Bug 746369. Add support for installing apps that do not provide an icon, falling back to the standard webapp icon. r=gavin a=desktop-only
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697. # [03:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac6e651207d3 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 746848. Support pref for webapps installer dry-run. r=gavin a=desktop-only
698. # [03:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ebec7bc561e1 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 747205. Webapps installer follow-ups. r=timA a=desktop-only
699. # [03:58] <bonnie_> dholbert: no worries, please feel free to travel till aug cause then i can take your desk :)
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702. # [03:58] <dholbert> bonnie_: haha, happy to share :)
703. # [03:58] <bonnie_> dholbert, no worries
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712. # [04:10] <Waldo> whee, blog post datadumps http://whereswalden.com/2012/04/19/introducing-mozillafloatingpoint-h-methods-for-floating-point-types-and-values/
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717. # [04:18] <roc> cool
718. # [04:19] <roc> I nominate you to implement nullptr
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720. # [04:20] <roc> Waldo: BTW is anyone signed up to replace the old stuff with the cool new stuff?
721. # [04:22] <Waldo> roc: people do stuff when they need it; I don't think there's much in the way of signup other than assigned-to status in bmo
722. # [04:22] <Waldo> and I'm on the critical path to ionmonkey being finished, so I really don't have time to pursue it right now
723. # [04:23] <jtcranmer> you know what's ironic?
724. # [04:23] <jtcranmer> the trick of using union { double d; uint64_t i };
725. # [04:23] <jtcranmer> is actually illegal per the spec
726. # [04:23] <dholbert> jlebar|mac, looks like you orangeified mochitest-3 on birch
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728. # [04:24] <@bz> jtcranmer: aliasing stuff?
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732. # [04:25] <@bz> roc: fwiw, I think Peter is going to start in on the 2d canvas context soon
733. # [04:25] <@bz> roc: binding-wise
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736. # [04:26] * Waldo thought the union way was the only safe way to do it (assuming double has the IEEE-754 double-precision representation), but he could be wrong
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738. # [04:26] * @bz thought so too
739. # [04:26] <@bz> that unions were the approved way to pun
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741. # [04:27] <heycam> bz, I have a question: I need to prevent <tspan style="display: block"> from actually being laid out as a block (all non-none values should be treated as inline for SVG elements)
742. # [04:27] <Waldo> and also assuming union { double; uint64_t; } gives you the right ordering of bits when you access the uint64_t arm
743. # [04:27] <Waldo> i.e. that double endianness is consistent with uint64_t endianness
744. # [04:27] <roc> nrc is working on getting rid of the Thebes-based context
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746. # [04:27] <heycam> bz, what would be the best way to do this, given that tspans will now be given nsInlineFrames?
747. # [04:27] <roc> bz, I also have a question for you about how nsStyleStructs are cached in the nsStyleContext
748. # [04:28] * dholbert is now known as dholbert|afk
749. # [04:28] <heycam> bz, there are a heap of places that look up styleStruct->mDisplay in nsLineLayout, nsFrame, nsCSSFrameConstructor, etc., that I *could* add checks to see if it's a frame for SVG text, but that doesn't seem right
750. # [04:29] <heycam> bz, but I would be happy enough if the computed value of the property were inline if you specified block/table/etc.
751. # [04:30] <@bz> roc: one sec
752. # [04:30] <Waldo> jtcranmer: 3.10 p15's "an aggregate or union type" clause is what I thought allows the union trick
753. # [04:30] <roc> :-)
754. # [04:30] <Waldo> in c++98
755. # [04:30] <@bz> heycam: making the computed value inline is probably broken
756. # [04:30] <@bz> heycam: in that it's script-visible, right?
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758. # [04:30] <heycam> bz, yes you are right
759. # [04:30] <heycam> bz, but I could live with it :)
760. # [04:31] <jtcranmer> c99 makes it an expicit type pun
761. # [04:31] <@bz> heycam: this is not something that's easy to to in the style system...
762. # [04:31] * @bz thinks
763. # [04:31] <jtcranmer> I thought I remembered C++ at one point saying it's undefined what happens if you switch the active member
764. # [04:31] <heycam> bz, is there any way to target the nsTextFrames themselves, have the property value just be inline/none there?
765. # [04:31] <@bz> heycam: we could add a -moz value for this, perhaps
766. # [04:32] <@bz> heycam: wait
767. # [04:32] <@bz> heycam: are you creating textframes for an _element_?
768. # [04:32] <roc> I tihnk heycam meant nsInlineFrames
769. # [04:32] <@bz> ah
770. # [04:32] <heycam> I think I did mean nsTextFrame but I retract that now :)
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772. # [04:32] <heycam> I have nsInlineFrames for my tspans
773. # [04:33] <heycam> was just thinking: if I could affect the style of the nsTextFrame itself, then it wouldn't be visible to script
774. # [04:33] <jtcranmer> C++11's reading is extremely garbled thanks to C++11 adding in support for non-POD unions
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776. # [04:33] <@bz> So one option
777. # [04:33] <@khuey> how do non-POD unions even work?
778. # [04:33] <@bz> is that you could GetUniqueStyleData
779. # [04:34] <@bz> assuming you can get dbaron to sign off on it
780. # [04:34] <@bz> it's a bit of a perf drag
781. # [04:34] <roc> it would be nice to not break getComputedStyle
782. # [04:34] <@bz> but hopefully there are not that many tspans
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786. # [04:34] <@bz> if you want to not break getComputedStyle, then you need a concept of "used" display style that everyone should examine
787. # [04:34] * heycam searches for GetUniqueStyleData
788. # [04:34] <@bz> which needs to not be mDisplay
789. # [04:35] <@bz> roc: ok, what about style contexts?
790. # [04:35] <heycam> bz, ok, and I guess there's no place I can hook in for that (changing "used" style)
791. # [04:35] <@bz> or it can be mDisplay but then GetComputedStyle needs to not look at mDisplay
792. # [04:35] <@bz> heycam: nope
793. # [04:35] <roc> couldn't we add a magic field to nsStyleDisplay which means "is really inline despite what mDisplay says" and then have the Is*Inside/Outside helpers check it?
794. # [04:35] <@bz> heycam: we don't have a concept of "used" style
795. # [04:35] <jtcranmer> khuey: you kill yourself, that's how they work
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798. # [04:35] <@bz> roc: we could; that would be equivalent
799. # [04:35] <@bz> roc: and make sure people don't look at mDisplay directly....
800. # [04:35] <heycam> so add a function on nsStyleDisplay, and update many places that look at mDisplay?
801. # [04:35] <roc> yeah
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803. # [04:36] <@bz> we still have to do something like GetUniqueStyleData
804. # [04:36] <heycam> I don't know just yet what that set of places would be, but there sure are a lot to consider
805. # [04:36] <roc> for inline-y-ness, checking mDisplay directly is rarely what you want due to replaced elements and such
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807. # [04:36] <@bz> make mDisplay protected?
808. # [04:36] <heycam> that would find them
809. # [04:36] <@bz> anyway
810. # [04:37] <@bz> roc: so style structs?
811. # [04:37] <heycam> though I don't know which ones need to be changed to check for svg-text-ness
812. # [04:37] <roc> Eclipse says there are only 20 places that use NS_STYLE_DISPLAY_INLINE
813. # [04:37] <heycam> that's not too many
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815. # [04:38] * heycam will investigate this approach, thanks bz/roc
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817. # [04:38] <roc> bz: so, I was looking at some profiles, and it seems that in some cases calling nsStyleContext::GetStyleXYZ() does not set the cached style struct
818. # [04:38] <@bz> be glad we have a compiler?
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820. # [04:39] <@bz> roc: does not set in what sense?
821. # [04:39] <@bz> roc: so style structs can be cached in two places
822. # [04:39] <@bz> roc: on the style context or on the rulenode
823. # [04:40] <roc> in the "if (mDependentBits & nsCachedStyleData::GetBitForSID(aSID))) case we always ask the parent and never cache
824. # [04:40] <@bz> roc: or at least on _a_ rulenode
825. # [04:40] * @bz looks
826. # [04:40] <@bz> this is in the rulenode code
827. # [04:40] <roc> yes
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829. # [04:41] <@bz> yes
830. # [04:41] <@bz> one sec
831. # [04:41] <roc> so we end up calling nsRuleNode::GetParentData and looping
832. # [04:41] <@bz> yes
833. # [04:41] <@bz> up the tree
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835. # [04:41] <@bz> until we find where it's cached
836. # [04:41] <roc> I assume there's a reason we can't cache the result of that search in the nsStyleContext?
837. # [04:41] <@bz> so first, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572200
838. # [04:42] <@bz> there isn't a reason we _can't_
839. # [04:42] <@bz> but there may be reasons it's not desirable
840. # [04:42] <@bz> maybe
841. # [04:42] <@bz> so the basic issue is that we have lots of structs
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843. # [04:42] <@bz> 9 inherit structs
844. # [04:44] <@bz> 14 reset structs
845. # [04:44] <@bz> A struct can be cached in the ruletree if it does not depend on the parent style context
846. # [04:44] <@bz> which is pretty much never true for inherit structs
847. # [04:44] <roc> nsInheritedStyleData is already allocated inline in nsStyleContext
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849. # [04:44] <@bz> yes
850. # [04:44] <@bz> because I measured and discovered that we always cached at least on inherit struct on the style context
851. # [04:44] <roc> so you're worried about roughly doubling the size of nsStyleContext
852. # [04:44] <@bz> yep
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862. # [04:45] <@bz> we can cache on the style context
863. # [04:45] <@bz> or we can cache on the rulenode
864. # [04:46] <@bz> but on the actual rulenode involved, not just somewhere up the tree
865. # [04:46] <@bz> which is what bug 572200 is about
866. # [04:46] <jtcranmer> so u.w.~W(); new (&u.x) X;
867. # [04:46] <@bz> you'd still have an extra hop, of course
868. # [04:47] <@bz> roc: I'm not convinced our set of structs is optimal
869. # [04:47] <@bz> roc: in that a smaller set, better cached, with a big hold-all for "rare stuff" might work better
870. # [04:47] <@bz> roc: I just haven't had time to run the numbers....
871. # [04:49] <roc> isn't the allocation of properties to structs sort of orthogonal?
872. # [04:49] <@bz> roc: yes
873. # [04:50] <@bz> roc: but the number of structs is not
874. # [04:50] <roc> right, I see
875. # [04:50] <@bz> roc: if we had 6 structs total, we'd just not worry about the space
876. # [04:50] <roc> tricky
877. # [04:50] <Waldo> jtcranmer: ah, right, wasn't remembering the incantations quite exactly
878. # [04:50] <roc> that would be an interesting project
879. # [04:50] <@bz> yes, it would
880. # [04:50] <@bz> have to be very methodical
881. # [04:50] <@bz> and put some good thought into what to measure
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883. # [04:51] <@bz> oh, look
884. # [04:51] <@bz> I mentioned that in that bug
885. # [04:51] <@bz> and claimed it's an interesting project
886. # [04:51] <@bz> so
887. # [04:51] <@bz> I still think that bug is a good idea. ;)
888. # [04:51] <@bz> and it might help enough, for your use case
889. # [04:51] <@bz> because after first get, all structs would be on the rulenode
890. # [04:52] <@bz> (the ones that aren't on the style context itself)
891. # [04:52] <roc> I should try that patch to see how it helps me
892. # [04:52] <@bz> if it applies
893. # [04:52] <@bz> if not, lemme know; updating it should be easy
894. # [04:52] <roc> I can probably update it
895. # [04:52] <@bz> ok
896. # [04:53] <@bz> sorry I never carried through on that bug
897. # [04:53] <bjacob> akeybl: if i land on inbound, will that hit central tomorrow as usual?
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899. # [04:54] <bjacob> argh, i scared akeybl away
900. # [04:54] <bjacob> anyone? ^
901. # [04:55] <Callek> bjacob: yes, but it needs approval
902. # [04:55] <Callek> (in one of the methods)
903. # [04:55] <bjacob> Callek: alright, it has approval
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905. # [04:55] <bjacob> it would have been funny if the m-c approval-required process had led people to skip inbound with typical results
906. # [04:56] <mbrubeck> bjacob: Yeah, we're still doing inbound merges on about the same schedule.
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911. # [04:59] <jtcranmer> Waldo: as far as I can tell, it's not strictly legal to access a double/uint64_t through an array, but C++11 requires that the variables have the same address and also implies that pointer analysis must treat the different members as able-to-be-aliased
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921. # [05:06] <akeybl> bjacob: sorry, it looks like I closed my laptop before seeing your highlight
922. # [05:06] <bjacob> akeybl: no worries, got my reply
923. # [05:06] <akeybl> cool
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979. # [05:45] <philor> does MoCo have a Corporate Corrupt Doctor, who will prescribe me drugs over IRC?
980. # [05:45] <philor> I need something that will make me feel like I'm doing good productive work while starring Android failures
981. # [05:45] * Havvy prescribes philor all the drugs he wants. *not a certified doctor*
982. # [05:46] <philor> anything that's been marketed as "Like a chemical lobotomy!" would be good
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984. # [05:46] <Callek> philor: on the bright side I *suspect* as of tomorrow, if bear does do my rollout as planned that we'll eliminate 95% of these infra failures
985. # [05:46] <Callek> philor: I have https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tegra-deploy-todo for the rollout (bear said he was likely to do BOTH parts tomorrow, but not sure yet)
986. # [05:46] <philor> my pony gets delivered *tomorrow*? and I can ride it all day long?
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995. # [05:50] <Callek> philor: with luck it won't even be a pony but a unicorn
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998. # [05:52] <@bz> philor: we call him brendan, but he's more of a pharmacist than a doctor
999. # [05:53] <@bz> philor: also, only seems to do C_2 H_5 OH -based stuff
1000. # [05:53] <@bz> philor: and you may need to be at the MV office. :(
1001. # [05:54] <philor> well, I do have episodes where I star like I must be drunk, maybe I should try that
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1033. # [06:25] <Ameya> where to check o/p of dump() in JS?
1034. # [06:26] <roc> does b2g currently use one process for all Web content?
1035. # [06:26] <Ameya> roc: where to check o/p of dump() in JS?
1036. # [06:26] <roc> what's "o/p"?
1037. # [06:26] <mwu> roc: at the moment, yes
1038. # [06:27] <roc> and one process for each app?
1039. # [06:27] <mwu> no e10s/multiprocess is currently enabled
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1042. # [06:28] <roc> sorry, I can't parse that
1043. # [06:29] <mwu> we're currently single process at the moment
1044. # [06:29] <roc> ah
1045. # [06:29] <roc> ok
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1047. # [06:30] <roc> is the plan written down somewhere?
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1050. # [06:30] * mwu looks at the wiki
1051. # [06:30] <mwu> cjones: ^
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1053. # [06:31] <mwu> roc: I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745143
1054. # [06:31] <cjones> roc, what are you curious about?
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1056. # [06:33] <roc> I had the impression that B2G was using e10s
1057. # [06:33] <roc> or at least is going to
1058. # [06:33] <roc> and I was wondering what the process configuration was going to be/will be
1059. # [06:34] <@khuey> memshrink would be interested to know that too
1060. # [06:34] <cjones> targeting process per app, will multiplex if forced to
1061. # [06:34] <cjones> one process for all browser "tabs"
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1063. # [06:35] <cjones> and a "server process" that doesn't load any content code
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1065. # [06:35] <cjones> and has high priveleges
1066. # [06:35] <cjones> all others are as low as possible, just enough to run GL
1067. # [06:35] <cjones> (sadly)
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1069. # [06:36] <cjones> there are other system daemons but i assume you're just curious about gecko
1070. # [06:37] <@bz> In b2g, can we call them system lizards?
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1072. # [06:38] <cjones> if it pleases you :)
1073. # [06:38] <roc> ok
1074. # [06:38] <@bz> heh
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1096. # [06:56] <nrc> are there any known issues with Windows builds on Try right now? I'm seeing a lot of red and purple
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1100. # [06:58] <janv> uuidgen
1101. # [06:58] <janv> err
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1106. # [07:02] <Waldo> firebot: uuid
1107. # [07:02] <firebot> cc0d8415-de7a-4658-b06a-2450849cb53c (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
1108. # [07:02] <Waldo> janv: ^
1109. # [07:03] <@bz> we only do custom quickstubs for gl canvas for texImage2D/texSubImage2D?
1110. # [07:03] <janv> I know
1111. # [07:03] <Havvy> firebot: uuid
1112. # [07:03] <firebot> 41623bec-5d3e-4ec7-89b1-1f731190a259 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
1113. # [07:03] <janv> I msg'ed firebot directly
1114. # [07:03] <@bz> apparently so
1115. # [07:03] <janv> in a private window
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1117. # [07:04] <janv> I wouldn't need to
1118. # [07:05] <janv> but uuidgen on mac returns capitalized uuid
1119. # [07:05] <janv> :(
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1121. # [07:05] <@khuey> capitalization doesn't matter
1122. # [07:05] <janv> I know
1123. # [07:05] <janv> :)
1124. # [07:05] <@khuey> k
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1140. # [07:32] <bsmith> what is the recommended way to simulate a OOM abort? I've been using NS_RUNTIMEABORT("OOM") and similar. Is there a better way?
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1142. # [07:32] <bsmith> i.e. x = something_that_allocates_or_returns_null; if (!x) NS_RUNTIMEABORT("OOM");
1143. # [07:33] <@bz> ozalloc_handle_oom uses either gAbortHandler or mozalloc_abort
1144. # [07:34] <@bz> actually, both
1145. # [07:34] <@bz> so mozalloc_abort
1146. # [07:34] <@bz> but if you want the crash reporter stuff
1147. # [07:34] <@bz> then mozalloc_handle_oom()
1148. # [07:35] <@bz> though note that this is not guaranteed to abort. It just happens to now.
1149. # [07:35] <bsmith> bz: basically, I want to take something that isn't yet infallable, and have it act exactly like infallable new
1150. # [07:36] <@bz> mozalloc_abort, then
1151. # [07:36] <@bz> if this is not a long-term thing
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1153. # [07:36] <bsmith> Basically, NSS functions return NULL on failure
1154. # [07:36] <@bz> yeah
1155. # [07:36] <bsmith> to allocate, and I want to make them act "infallable" in the PSM code
1156. # [07:36] <bsmith> so, this is permanent code
1157. # [07:36] <@bz> ah
1158. # [07:36] <@bz> so
1159. # [07:37] <@bz> what mozalloc actually does, in theory
1160. # [07:37] <@bz> is call mozalloc_handle_oom
1161. # [07:37] <@bz> and if you're still alive after that, retry the allocation
1162. # [07:37] <@bz> for when we make mozalloc_handle_oom try to free up memory
1163. # [07:37] <@bz> if ever
1164. # [07:38] <bsmith> OK, mozalloc_abort seems like the thing to use then
1165. # [07:38] <bsmith> but, it is strange that it asks for a message
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1167. # [07:38] <bsmith> operator new can't provide a message, and if everybody provides their own message then we end up with all these strings in the executable for no good reason, AFAICT.
1168. # [07:39] <bsmith> Definitely it is to tedious to simulate the retry logic of mozalloc for interfacing with NSS and NSPR
1169. # [07:39] <bsmith> s/to/too/
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1173. # [07:40] <bsmith> thanks for the help
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1176. # [07:41] <@bz> bsmith: currently the message it's passed is "out of memory"
1177. # [07:42] <@bz> bsmith: from handle_oom
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1192. # [07:53] <bsmith> thanks bz
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1219. # [08:15] <@khuey> http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/01/pepsi-says-mountain-dew-can-dissolve-mouse-carcasses/46868/
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1221. # [08:16] <dwarfcrank> Haha
1222. # [08:16] <AryehGregor> I thought that's a standard high-school experiment -- leave a penny in some Coca-Cola and observe it dissolve.
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1224. # [08:16] * smontagu thought it was an urban legend
1225. # [08:17] <dwarfcrank> My mom once stole my Coca-Cola bottle and poured it down the toilet
1226. # [08:18] <dwarfcrank> She heard it's a good cleaning substance
1227. # [08:18] <dwarfcrank> But the results weren't that good
1228. # [08:19] <jgilbert> it's useful for cleaning car battery terminals
1229. # [08:19] <jgilbert> also, it's delicious
1230. # [08:20] <dwarfcrank> Heh
1231. # [08:23] <smontagu> lol, "coca-cola site:snopes.com" on google gives 1780 results
1232. # [08:23] <dwarfcrank> Oh wow
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1239. # [08:29] <smontagu> has the time perhaps come to use hex NCRs when saving web pages?
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1242. # [08:29] <@bz> template<typename A>
1243. # [08:29] <@bz> inline void foo() {}
1244. # [08:29] <@bz> typedef foo<int> bar;
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1246. # [08:29] <@bz> why is C++ unhappy with that?
1247. # [08:29] <@bz> and how do I make it happy?
1248. # [08:29] <smontagu> there was a time when popular UAs only supported decimal, but I think that time has passed
1249. # [08:31] <roc> very recently a NZ woman died after having consumed 7.5L of Coke a day for years
1250. # [08:32] <aja> at the age of 100 and what?
1251. # [08:32] <@khuey> bz: I don't think C++ reacts well to typedefing functions
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1253. # [08:32] <dwarfcrank> How on earth does one have that much Coke?
1254. # [08:33] <@bz> khuey: :(
1255. # [08:33] <@khuey> inline void bar() {
1256. # [08:33] <@khuey> foo<int>();
1257. # [08:33] <@khuey> }
1258. # [08:33] <@khuey> is what I would do
1259. # [08:33] <@bz> khuey: hmm
1260. # [08:33] <@bz> khuey, yeah, that works
1261. # [08:34] <@bz> but it sucks because I have to redeclare all the args
1262. # [08:34] <@bz> in my real use case the functions have args
1263. # [08:34] <@khuey> yeah ...
1264. # [08:34] <nigelb> heh, this is awesome http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/21426095019/trains-are-well-and-good-but-they-must-be-built
1265. # [08:34] <@khuey> idk if there's a better way
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1267. # [08:35] <nigelb> roc: 7.5L of Coke a day sounds next to impossible to do even :|
1268. # [08:36] <@bz> well
1269. # [08:36] <@bz> there sure is
1270. # [08:36] <@bz> it's called a macro
1271. # [08:36] * @bz writes one
1272. # [08:36] <Havvy> Sure there is. It's called not using C++.
1273. # [08:36] <Havvy> (On that note...does C++ have anonymous functions?)
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1275. # [08:37] <padenot> c++0x have
1276. # [08:37] <AryehGregor> Why MOZ_ASSERT and not NS_ASSERT? And why dom::Element rather than nsIElement?
1277. # [08:38] <@khuey> AryehGregor: because inconsistency is fun!
1278. # [08:39] <AryehGregor> :(
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1280. # [08:40] <nigelb> Heh. isn't that the topic of a lot of mozilla memes already? :)
1281. # [08:40] <smontagu> AryehGregor: what were you saying about working week from Sunday-Thursday? that didn't last long
1282. # [08:40] <AryehGregor> smontagu, that doesn't mean I'll put in no work at all on Friday.
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1284. # [08:42] <@bz> AryehGregor: When Element was created it was not an "interface"
1285. # [08:42] <@bz> AryehGregor: had no iid, etc
1286. # [08:43] <roc> AryehGregor: because next year we'll be celebrating the 10th anniversary of the death of Netscape
1287. # [08:44] <AryehGregor> roc, so let's add like two or three things that use "moz" instead of "ns" just to confuse everyone?
1288. # [08:44] <@khuey> we should mass remove 'ns' from the codebase that day :-P
1289. # [08:44] <roc> well, yeah, but it's more like dozens of things
1290. # [08:44] <roc> khuey: I'm with you!
1291. # [08:44] <Havvy> s/ns/moz/
1292. # [08:45] <smontagu> from recent developments, shouldn't we s/ns/ms/ ?
1293. # [08:45] <roc> ?
1294. # [08:45] <AryehGregor> Dozens vs. what, thousands?
1295. # [08:46] <@bz> if we mass-remove "ns" we get ISupports
1296. # [08:46] <@bz> which I vote against
1297. # [08:46] <@bz> just remove nsI
1298. # [08:46] <@bz> though you do get issues for nsDocument vs nsIDocument.....
1299. # [08:47] <Havvy> Though however it's done, somebody will have to check every occurance.
1300. # [08:48] <Havvy> Otherwise you get cases like what happened for one DnD book...
1301. # [08:48] <Havvy> Somebody did /Mage/Wizard, and every instance of damage become daWizard.
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1303. # [08:50] <@bz> - wrval->SetAsArray(nsIDataType::VTYPE_FLOAT, nsnull,
1304. # [08:50] <@bz> - unitSize, static_cast<void*>(fv));
1305. # [08:50] <@bz> + return JS::ObjectOrNullValue(NewFloat32Array(cx, unitSize, fv));
1306. # [08:50] * @bz tries to decide whether the new thing is a win over the old
1307. # [08:50] <roc> fits on one line -> win
1308. # [08:51] <roc> no casts -> win
1309. # [08:52] <@bz> also, no nsIVariant
1310. # [08:52] * @bz declares win
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1312. # [08:54] <nigelb> Woah. We have a new download manager UI?
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1314. # [08:55] <@khuey> no nsIDataType either
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1318. # [08:57] <Havvy> nigelb: Yeah.
1319. # [08:58] <@khuey> AryehGregor: http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/20900079005/in-some-parts-of-the-code-this-would-be
1320. # [08:59] <nigelb> Havvy: Damn, it looks great.
1321. # [08:59] <nigelb> I first thought I installed a plugin or something :P
1322. # [09:00] <Havvy> I don't get it for another 12-18 weeks. :(
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1324. # [09:03] <@bz> jsapi has fallible allocation
1325. # [09:03] * @bz has to write more complicated code
1326. # [09:03] <@bz> sad
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1329. # [09:04] <@bz> JSObject* obj = NewInt32Array(cx, unitSize, iv);
1330. # [09:04] <@bz> if (!obj) {
1331. # [09:04] <@bz> rv = NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY;
1332. # [09:04] <@bz> }
1333. # [09:04] <@bz> return JS::ObjectOrNullValue(obj);
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1338. # [09:07] <@khuey> hmm
1339. # [09:07] <@khuey> why do we need to catch the error there?
1340. # [09:08] <@khuey> I thought the NewFooArray stuff threw for us
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1342. # [09:09] <@khuey> bz: ^
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1345. # [09:12] <smontagu> so if a bug reporter adds testcases to the bug, and all I do to them is a mechanical conversion to reftest format, do I need to ask review from a third party or can I just check them in with r=me?
1346. # [09:12] <@khuey> just do it
1347. # [09:12] <@khuey> (IMO)
1348. # [09:13] <smontagu> AryehGregor: I mostly work for my wife on Fridays :)
1349. # [09:13] <AryehGregor> smontagu, yeah, pretty much me too -- my wife works Sunday to Thursday, and I'm not going to work on Friday instead of spending time with her.
1350. # [09:13] <AryehGregor> But right now she's at Rami Levy, so . . . :)
1351. # [09:15] <@bz> khuey: oh, it did throw
1352. # [09:15] <@bz> khuey: that's the problem
1353. # [09:15] <@bz> khuey: now you have to make sure that your jsapi callback returns false....
1354. # [09:15] <@bz> khuey: otherwise you get script running on a context with a pending exception, and JS starts asserting at you
1355. # [09:16] <@bz> khuey: if the NewFooArray stuff did NOT throw, we could just silently treat allocation failure as "return null" and move on...
1356. # [09:16] <@khuey> bz: ah
1357. # [09:16] <@khuey> fun
1358. # [09:16] <@khuey> return JS_HasPendingException(cx); :-P
1359. # [09:16] <@bz> khuey: I really hope we don't get too many web APIs returning "any"
1360. # [09:16] <@bz> khuey: in all bindings?
1361. # [09:16] <@bz> khuey: seems kinda slow. ;)
1362. # [09:17] <@bz> khuey: I suppose we could do it just for the ones returning "any"
1363. # [09:17] <@khuey> bz: well you'd think it would just boil away to return cx->hasException
1364. # [09:17] <@khuey> but who knows
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1366. # [09:19] <@bz> well, for one thing it's not inline
1367. # [09:19] <@bz> like most jsapi
1368. # [09:19] <@bz> "fail"
1369. # [09:19] <@khuey> yeah
1370. # [09:19] <@bz> And even PGO doesn't help here
1371. # [09:20] <@khuey> that's going to be a bigger and bigger problem for us
1372. # [09:20] <@bz> which?
1373. # [09:20] <@bz> jsapi suck?
1374. # [09:20] <@bz> I've been trying to fix as I go
1375. # [09:20] <@bz> but they don't want to expose their class decls
1376. # [09:20] <@khuey> the general lack of optimization opportunities at the JSAPI boundary
1377. # [09:20] <@bz> which makes it really hard to inline stuff
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1380. # [09:20] <@khuey> particularly on windows, where everything lives in a separate dso :-(
1381. # [09:21] <@bz> right
1382. # [09:21] <@bz> we need to just fix that
1383. # [09:21] <@khuey> fix what, exactly?
1384. # [09:21] <@bz> of course pgo is also still off for libmozjs
1385. # [09:21] <@khuey> right
1386. # [09:21] <@bz> fix the fact that libmozjs is a separate dso
1387. # [09:21] <@khuey> and shoving libmozjs into libxul may push us over the limit for pgo
1388. # [09:21] <@bz> and separately fix the fact that pgo is off for it
1389. # [09:21] <@bz> yep
1390. # [09:21] <@khuey> that whole situation is awful
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1392. # [09:22] <@bz> also, distinct lack of ponies in jsapi
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1394. # [09:22] <@bz> So far I've managed to inline some things
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1396. # [09:22] <@bz> e.g. the int/double conversions
1397. # [09:22] <@bz> but even inlining stuff like this unmarkgray thing....
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1438. # [10:11] <avih> hi. does anyone know where the layout flush optimizations are handled? (one flush for few consecutive layout changes)
1439. # [10:11] <avih> i'm suspecting it might optimize too much
1440. # [10:12] <@bz_sleep> handled in what sense?
1441. # [10:12] <avih> code, files
1442. # [10:12] <@bz_sleep> RefreshDriver and PresShell
1443. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> basically, when something happens that needs layout changes we set some dirty flags on frames
1444. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> and add a reflow root to a list on presshell
1445. # [10:13] <avih> i've set refresh driver to 500fps (via layout.frame_rate), and eventhough the callback arrive relatively on time, visually it seems to me quite un-smooth
1446. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> reflows are processed when someting calls FlushPendingNotifications()
1447. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> er, something
1448. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> odd
1449. # [10:13] <@bz_sleep> that's all there is to it
1450. # [10:14] <avih> bz_sleep: in that case, who calls FlushPendingNotifications?
1451. # [10:14] <@bz_sleep> refresh driver does
1452. # [10:14] <@bz_sleep> also, script can trigger it
1453. # [10:14] <@bz_sleep> if it asks for layout information
1454. # [10:15] <avih> so where's the actual optimization? i don't think i recognize it in your description, unless it results in the calls to FlushPendingNotifications
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1456. # [10:16] <avih> hmm.. i'll try to add this call at the smooth scroll iterations. let's see if that makes a differenec...
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1459. # [10:17] <@bz_sleep> avih: which optimization?
1460. # [10:17] <@bz_sleep> avih: the "optimization" is just "do reflow lazily, when someone asks us to"
1461. # [10:17] <@bz_sleep> avih: and one of the things that ask is the refresh driver....
1462. # [10:18] <avih> bz_sleep: i was lead to believe that if something does quick layout changes, the layout can be flushed only once for few changes
1463. # [10:18] <avih> i see
1464. # [10:18] <@bz_sleep> right
1465. # [10:18] <@bz_sleep> if something does quick layout changes and never asks for layout info
1466. # [10:18] <avih> so, where does this happen?
1467. # [10:18] <avih> oh, i see
1468. # [10:18] <avih> but FlushPendingNotifications() forces flush?
1469. # [10:18] <@bz_sleep> then reflowing lazily will mean that we reflow only once
1470. # [10:18] <@bz_sleep> yes
1471. # [10:19] <avih> ok, i'll try it, see if it makes a difference
1472. # [10:19] <@bz_sleep> good luck
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1474. # [10:19] <avih> :)
1475. # [10:19] <avih> night
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1491. # [10:32] <avih> bz_sleep: ok, it turns out it was a combination of secondary monitor at 50Hz while primary is @60, and firefox's hw accelaration (disabled) combination, possible with aero too (on). it can be smooth as i expect it to when i set secondary monitor to 60Hz, and re-enabled hw accel in firefox.
1492. # [10:33] <avih> (and manually calling flush (both display and layout) didn't change it.
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1521. # [11:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/134706dc07b1 - Paul Rouget - Bug 735214 - [inspector] Give the focus to the toolbar and make the buttons tabbable. a=desktop-only r=dao r=rcampbell
1522. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/db5627efe52f - Dave Camp - Bug 740662 - Replace InspectorStore dictionaries with Inspector instances. r=robcee
1523. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fe5bf2fca92e - Bellindira Castillo [:bellindira] - Bug 736476 - Title page for New tab is about:newtab after restart r=ttaubert
1524. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd8b66649278 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team; a=desktop-only
1525. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fc195f2e276a - Paul Rouget - Bug 717922 - In the PageInspector toolbar, move the HTML Tree button in front of the breadcrumbs display. a=desktop-only r=dao
1526. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/92dbde201794 - Dave Camp - Bug 707809 - Refactor creation of registered sidebar tools iframes in InspectorUI. r=robcee
1527. # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac3ea3b31fe0 - Dave Camp - Bug 702411 - Rule view shouldn't update during highlighting. r=robcee
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1531. # [11:13] <gcp> I'm shocked at reading the new EU privacy/cookie regulations.
1532. # [11:13] <gcp> "We are aware that the government is working with the major browser manufacturers to establish which browser level solutions will be available and when."
1533. # [11:13] <gcp> Really uh?
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1573. # [12:10] <edmorley> gcp: don't know if you've seen, but there are xpcshell failures on your inbound push
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1575. # [12:12] <gcp> the OS X debug one?
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1579. # [12:13] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d76fc37cf759
1580. # [12:13] <edmorley> gcp: well either; but I've since since the green retrigger (&onlyunstarred=1 was hiding it)
1581. # [12:13] <gcp> they weren't on try, and they aren't remotely in the code touched
1582. # [12:14] <edmorley> cool
1583. # [12:14] <gcp> also, the tree went green in the next push
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1587. # [12:17] <edmorley> gcp: ah indeed missed those in only unstarred view, sorry false alarm
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1634. # [13:39] <gcp> http://www.portfoliouk.co.uk/wp-includes/nationalgepartaoinc65GRF53GS6/etap1.html
1635. # [13:39] <gcp> does this trigger a phishing warning for you (I presume you're all at least on Aurora)
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1638. # [13:40] <Ms2ger> gcp, yep
1639. # [13:41] <gcp> Ms2ger: nightly? or newer?
1640. # [13:41] <Ms2ger> Nightly on a revision from... January, I think
1641. # [13:41] * Ms2ger is a little out of date
1642. # [13:41] <gcp> heh, ok, that doesn't help me :P
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1645. # [13:43] <Ms2ger> Ah, not here
1646. # [13:43] <Ms2ger> gcp, no warning on m-c tip
1647. # [13:43] <gcp> no, because I just backed that out to its january state :P
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1651. # [13:47] <gcp> hmm wait a minute
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1654. # [13:48] <gcp> does m-c tip really mean like, the very latest rev?
1655. # [13:48] <gcp> ah silly me
1656. # [13:48] <gcp> I backed out on inbound
1657. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> $ hg log -r qparent
1658. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> changeset: 91978:cd8b66649278
1659. # [13:51] <gcp> Ms2ger: yeah, your build should be an interesting one to me. But given that you only just updated, it will take a while for your db to sync.
1660. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Can I force that? :)
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1662. # [13:53] <gcp> with some hacking of source yes. dont seem to have a patch handy right now.
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1664. # [13:53] <gcp> I guess East coast will wake up soon anyway.
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1668. # [14:01] <jfkthame> gcp: still looking for answers to that phishing question? i don't get a warning here on aurora from 3/26, nor after letting it update to current
1669. # [14:02] <gcp> ok
1670. # [14:02] <gcp> yes, I can use all the answers I get.
1671. # [14:03] <gcp> Well, if 10 people all say they don't get a warning, I'm going to presume nobody does, of course :P
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1697. # [14:26] <@roc> I don't get a warning on the build I just made from m-c tip
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1738. # [15:05] <zzzzz> no warnings here on the portfolio link using m-c win32 hourly build : https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd8b66649278
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1741. # [15:06] <gcp> ok, so nobody gets them, basically
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1747. # [15:08] <zzzzz> FWIW, I do get the warning on the latest Chrome 20 dev build
1748. # [15:08] <gcp> yes. you'll also get it on m-b and release
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1751. # [15:08] <zzzzz> IE9 does not complain
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1753. # [15:09] <gcp> They don't use Google's db.
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1755. # [15:10] <gcp> Btw, if a bug is fixed by backing out (temporarily, until it gets properly fixed), should the bug itself be closed? :)
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1758. # [15:12] <mwu> assuming you don't introduce it again the next time you land it, sure
1759. # [15:12] <mwu> that's what I do
1760. # [15:12] <zzzzz> I think 'Fixed by backout of xxxxxxxx' would work
1761. # [15:13] <gcp> The weird thing is that I intend to post quite a bit more in the bug (including patches) until the solution is clear.
1762. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> mwu, what you do is introducing it again? :)
1763. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> gcp, then leave it open :)
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1765. # [15:14] <gcp> Just wondering if there's a normal modus operandi for this.
1766. # [15:14] <gcp> <troll>Though I realize we mostly just let buggy features sit and fix them 5 releases later instead of backing out.</troll>
1767. # [15:14] <mwu> which bug are you posting in? the regression one or the one that introduced the regression?
1768. # [15:15] <gcp> the regression one (the one that describes the bug)
1769. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> gcp, yep, that's what I do :)
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1771. # [15:15] <mwu> hmm I usually reopen the original bug if it got backed out
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1864. # [16:36] <mconley> ehsan_: ping
1865. # [16:36] <ehsan_> yo
1866. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> ehsan_, I hate editor, btw
1867. # [16:37] <ehsan_> Ms2ger: thanks! ;)
1868. # [16:37] <mconley> ehsan_: hey - so I've got me a reftest here, and it seems to pass alright when I run it by itself, or run through all the tests of test_reftests_with_caret
1869. # [16:37] <ehsan_> good
1870. # [16:37] <mconley> ehsan_: but it seems to fail when I run the layout/base/tests directory
1871. # [16:37] <mconley> ehsan_: comparing the screenshots, it looks like the caret in my reference isn't appearing
1872. # [16:37] <ehsan_> mconley: fail how?
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1874. # [16:38] <ehsan_> oh hrm
1875. # [16:38] <mconley> ehsan_: run into that before?
1876. # [16:38] <ehsan_> no
1877. # [16:38] <ehsan_> what does your reference look like?
1878. # [16:38] <mconley> ehsan_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1584747
1879. # [16:39] <ehsan_> mconley: I meant the code :)
1880. # [16:39] <mconley> ehsan_: ah, k - hang on...
1881. # [16:39] <mconley> ehsan_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1584749
1882. # [16:40] <mconley> ehsan_: a reminder that this is my first Mochitest / reftest, so keep your eyes sharp for newbie mistakes
1883. # [16:41] <ehsan_> mconley: why do you need the synthesizeMouse?
1884. # [16:41] <ehsan_> you should just call focus()
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1886. # [16:41] <ehsan_> also, you should not need the timeout
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1888. # [16:42] <mconley> ehsan_: ah - so this is mostly copy-paste from the bug 682712 reftest
1889. # [16:42] <mconley> ehsan_: it seemed to be doing much of the same thing
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1891. # [16:42] <ehsan_> hmm
1892. # [16:42] <ehsan_> wait
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1898. # [16:44] <ehsan_> mconley: this seems to work for me: data:text/html,<html class="reftest-wait"><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><script type="text/javascript" src="/tests/SimpleTest/EventUtils.js"></script></head><body onload="start()"><iframe src="data:text/html,<body contenteditable>Here's some text.<br /><br /></body>"></iframe><script>function start() {var iframe = document.querySelector("iframe");va
1899. # [16:44] <ehsan_> r win = iframe.contentWindow;var doc = iframe.contentDocument;iframe.focus();doc.body.focus();win.getSelection().collapse(doc.body, 2);document.documentElement.removeAttribute("class");}</script></body></html>
1900. # [16:45] <mconley> alright, lemme see here...
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1905. # [16:47] <ehsan_> mconley: running out of battery, cya at the office
1906. # [16:47] <mconley> ehsan_: alrighty
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1924. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> "I was asked privately for a link..."
1925. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> You weren't, it was right on the newsgroup
1926. # [16:56] <catlee-buildduty> where does firefox/webapprt/application.ini come from?
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1928. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Hell.
1929. # [16:57] <sheppy> Ms2ger: sorry, should I go? :)
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1968. # [17:31] <Mardak> can i push to mozilla-inbound with a=webapprt-only ?
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1973. # [17:32] <Mardak> (i.e., it doesn't touch native fennec builds)
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1976. # [17:34] <@ehsan> mconley: did that help?
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1979. # [17:35] <mconley> ehsan: it did!
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1985. # [17:39] <mconley> ehsan: thanks for your help
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1987. # [17:39] <@ehsan> np
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1999. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> Mark_Capella, so, you'll need to change all implementations of CopyInnerTo at once
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2001. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> And use const_cast<> when calling it
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2003. # [17:45] <Mark_Capella> ms2ger... well ok - though i tried that to start with ... backed down to this ...
2004. # [17:45] <Mark_Capella> its the const_cast pasrt i need clarification on
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2006. # [17:46] <Mark_Capella> just use it to wrap the function call i guess?
2007. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Like const_cast<className*>(this)->CopyInnerTo(it);
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2010. # [17:47] <Mark_Capella> k - back to the drawing board .... rebaasing some patchs now last pull was a big one
2011. # [17:47] <jgilbert> const \o/
2012. # [17:47] <johanc> I'm getting "unable to find 'testing/peptest/tests/firefox/server/mozilla.org/index.html.orig' for patching" when applying a patch
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2016. # [17:49] <jdm> johanc: does that file exist?
2017. # [17:49] <johanc> no
2018. # [17:49] <jdm> that would explain why :)
2019. # [17:49] <sheppy> :)
2020. # [17:49] <Mark_Capella> :P
2021. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> johanc, did you remove .orig files locally?
2022. # [17:49] <johanc> I want to remember something about this file being pushed accidentally a while back, or am I wrong?
2023. # [17:49] <johanc> something related to git
2024. # [17:50] <johanc> <- nab
2025. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Yeah
2026. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Which is why you should never use hit
2027. # [17:51] <johanc> sheppy: Mark_Capella: har :P
2028. # [17:51] <tbsaunde> was someone dumb and used git commit -a?
2029. # [17:52] <johanc> seeing as I aleady look silly, how can I fix this? :D remove the file from the patch?
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2032. # [17:52] <johanc> hg remove "path to file"?
2033. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> johanc, just hg qref when you fixed everything else
2034. # [17:53] <johanc> <- silly person
2035. # [17:53] <tbsaunde> johanc: unless you need to care about that file that should probably work
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2037. # [17:53] <johanc> I created a patch out of things to work around the problem back then.
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2041. # [17:55] <froydnj> anybody know how to use DMD these days? the wiki page appears to be incomplete
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2069. # [18:12] <johanc> Ms2ger: tbsaunde: cheers
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2074. # [18:15] <rillian_lime> has anyone set up github irc notifications here? I'm trying to get some commit messages to go to #media, unsuccessfully
2075. # [18:15] <jdm> ehsan: how can I obtain the gPrivateBrowsingUI of a tab created with gBrowser.addTab()?
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2077. # [18:16] <jdm> or is that only a per-window thing?
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2079. # [18:16] <jdm> rillian_lime: the pdf.js folk may have, or perhaps the addon SDK team
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2081. # [18:17] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ping
2082. # [18:17] <rillian_lime> jdm: thanks
2083. # [18:17] <bbondy> ejpbruel: pong
2084. # [18:18] <ejpbruel> bbondy: do you still remember bug 460969?
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2086. # [18:18] <bbondy> ya
2087. # [18:18] <ejpbruel> bbondy: the addon-sdk team experienced some troubles with us losing transparency info in bmps, so i'd like to fix it
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2090. # [18:19] <ejpbruel> bbondy: trying to reproduce the issue atm, but i cant seem to get a breakpoint triggerd on nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage
2091. # [18:19] <ejpbruel> bb
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2095. # [18:19] <ejpbruel> bbondy: which is supposedly called when we copy a bmp file to the clipboard, rite?
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2098. # [18:20] <bbondy> I think it should ya
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2102. # [18:21] <bbondy> but I haven't tried debugging that task yet so I'm not sure
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2108. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> huh, weird
2109. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> bb
2110. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> on
2111. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> 
2112. # [18:22] <bbondy> ejpbruel: so I think you need to add a new data format flavor of CF_DIBV5
2113. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> b
2114. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> b
2115. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> 
2116. # [18:22] <ejpbruel> 
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2120. # [18:23] <ejpbruel> ok sorry about that
2121. # [18:23] <ejpbruel> damn colloquy
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2123. # [18:23] <ejpbruel> bbondy: yeah so the problem is that we dont support the V5 bmp header format that adds alpha information to the channel
2124. # [18:23] <bbondy> correct
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2126. # [18:24] <ejpbruel> so how do these flavors come into the picture? i have a feeling that might explain why im not hitting that breakpoint
2127. # [18:24] <bbondy> maybe the CF_DIB format that we do support can be upgraded as well to specify transparency info
2128. # [18:24] <bbondy> ejpbruel: see here http://www-archive.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/introClipDD.html
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2132. # [18:26] <ejpbruel> so when copying, the image is in a transferable, which can have multiple flavors representing the same data?
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2136. # [18:27] <bbondy> ya your code will probably be in either widget/windows/nsDataObj.cpp or widget/windows/nsClipboard.cpp
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2138. # [18:27] <ejpbruel> bbondy: the image flavor im seeing is application/x-moz-nativeimage
2139. # [18:27] <bbondy> are you using a clipboard viewer?
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2141. # [18:28] <ejpbruel> not to my knowledge, no
2142. # [18:28] <ejpbruel> simply looked up a bmp file on google and clicked 'copy image'
2143. # [18:28] <ejpbruel> i end up in nsTransferable::SetTransferData with aFlavor set to the above
2144. # [18:28] <bbondy> so you want to run this to see what's going on: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/168/ClipSpy
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2147. # [18:29] <bbondy> you can for example see what formats other browsers are providing vs what we are
2148. # [18:29] <bbondy> and adjust ours as needed
2149. # [18:30] <ejpbruel> well assuming i know what code is responsible for that
2150. # [18:30] <ejpbruel> my assumption was that when copying a BMP file we'd end up in nsImageToClipboard
2151. # [18:31] <bbondy> so probably see what's calling nsImageToCipboard and set the breakpoint to the start of that function
2152. # [18:31] <bbondy> and see if that's hit, then you can see why it's not being called
2153. # [18:31] <bbondy> etc
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2155. # [18:31] <ejpbruel> looks like it
2156. # [18:31] <ejpbruel> ok, ill see what i can figure out. ill get back to you
2157. # [18:31] <ejpbruel> bbondy: thanks!
2158. # [18:32] <bbondy> ok cool, ping me if you want me to take a deeper look
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2183. # [18:40] <vikash> gerv, ping
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2185. # [18:40] <gerv> pong.
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2187. # [18:41] <vikash> I suppose today had been a great day :-)
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2192. # [18:44] <vikash> gerv, So I suppose now everything lies in a sealed box ;-) and it will open on 23 :-)
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2194. # [18:44] <gerv> vikash: Yes, pretty much :-) You will find out on the 23rd.
2195. # [18:45] <loadbang> who would be a good person at mozilla to get this through? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747432
2196. # [18:45] <loadbang> UI guys?
2197. # [18:45] <vikash> gerv, I am eagerly waiting for 23 :-)
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2201. # [18:46] <gerv> loadbang: I'm fairly sure there are existing bugs on that topic.
2202. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> gerv, this is something else, I think
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2205. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> In particular, it isn't the usual "honour EXIF orientation" bug
2206. # [18:47] <vikash> gerv, As per discussion on #gsoc on freenode I wanted to know, if you could provide any update on duplication
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2208. # [18:47] <gerv> What do you mean by an "update on duplication".
2209. # [18:47] <gerv> Mozilla did have some duplicates, but we have resolved them.
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2212. # [18:48] <vikash> gerv, ok so all the duplicates have been resolved
2213. # [18:48] <gerv> All _our_ duplicates.
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2215. # [18:48] <gerv> There's an IRC meeting tonight in case any more crop up.
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2217. # [18:48] <vikash> Yup, I am scouting that :-)
2218. # [18:49] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ping
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2221. # [18:49] <loadbang> gerv: this is displaying of meta data, not orientation or reading colour spaces which seem to to be the only exif related bugs.
2222. # [18:49] <bbondy> ejpbruel: pong
2223. # [18:50] <ejpbruel> bbondy: i just talked to the addon-sdk guys. it could be that our problem is actually the reverse: we lose transparency when pasting something back *from* the clipboard
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2225. # [18:50] <ejpbruel> bbondy: which would make sense, since ImageFromClipboard converts to an RGB image, not RGBA
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2227. # [18:50] <ejpbruel> bbondy: can i somehow simulate pasting from the clipboard?
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2231. # [18:51] <bbondy> ejpbruel: It seems you already have a way to do it which is the source of your problem? I don't understand what you're asking exactly
2232. # [18:51] <mbrubeck> What's the bugzilla component for quotes.burntelectrons.org being down? :)
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2235. # [18:52] <jhammel> Firefox::Core :P
2236. # [18:52] <mbrubeck> Oh, it's just slow.
2237. # [18:52] <mbrubeck> I guess I should file a perf bug instead. :)
2238. # [18:52] <mbrubeck> /join #perf
2239. # [18:52] <ejpbruel> bbondy: true, but the source of our problem isnt very easy for me to reproduce. so im asking if theres a 'bare bones' way to do it (if not, a teammate will write an addon that does it for me)
2240. # [18:53] <jhammel> mbrubeck: i'll write some talos tests for qbo...that should help
2241. # [18:53] <loadbang> Humm, I can search "EXIF" all day long in bugzilla, and bug 232806 does not show in the results.
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2244. # [18:53] <bbondy> ejbruel: You can try finding an application that will consume the same flavor that you are trying to use I think
2245. # [18:53] <bbondy> like maybe mspaint or soemthing
2246. # [18:53] <jtcranmer> loadbang: resolved/verified bugs do not show up by default in quicksearch
2247. # [18:53] <glob> loadbang, by default quicksearch doesn't show resolved bugs
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2249. # [18:54] <bbondy> the application that you paste to picks which flavor it wants to use
2250. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> cjones--
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2253. # [18:54] <bbondy> so you may be able to fix it by providing an additional flavor for example
2254. # [18:54] <bbondy> and the application will pick that new one which is more suitable
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2257. # [18:55] <@ehsan> jdm: it is per window
2258. # [18:55] <ejpbruel> bbondy: oh, so flavors are a windows concept, not a firefox concept?
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2262. # [18:55] <mconley> ehsan: is this comment sufficient?
2263. # [18:55] <mconley> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1584858
2264. # [18:56] <mconley> ehsan: I didn't really know what else you wanted me to mention...
2265. # [18:56] <@ehsan> mconley: that's fine, land away!
2266. # [18:56] <mconley> ehsan: cool, thanks
2267. # [18:56] <@ehsan> mconley: and keep those editor patches coming ;)
2268. # [18:56] <bbondy> ejpbruel: both ya, maybe they are called clipboard formats to windows
2269. # [18:56] <mconley> what have I gotten myself into
2270. # [18:56] <bbondy> but the ceoncept is the same
2271. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> mconley, { on the previous line
2272. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ok now i see what youre getting at
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2274. # [18:56] <@ehsan> mconley: it is too late to recover now
2275. # [18:56] <@ehsan> ;)
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2277. # [18:56] <jtcranmer> mconley: could be worse
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2279. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> You are trapped
2280. # [18:57] <mconley> nooooo
2281. # [18:57] <jtcranmer> I seem to be getting roped into fixing MIME
2282. # [18:57] <bbondy> tht program I mentioned earlier shows you which formats you support for the object that is in the clipboard
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2284. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, hey, you get memes :)
2285. # [18:57] <mconley> Ms2ger: seriously? the other conditionals put the brace on the next line. I'm seeing both styles, actually. Are we actively trying to enforce one?
2286. # [18:57] <bbondy> the programt that you paste to will determine if what you want to paste is available in a handled format
2287. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> *I* am actively trying to enforce one :)
2288. # [18:57] <mconley> Ms2ger: ah, gotcha. :)
2289. # [18:58] <bbondy> some programs may only accept html format, some may just prefer html format
2290. # [18:58] * joduinn-commute is now known as joduinn-mtg
2291. # [18:58] <bbondy> for example
2292. # [18:58] <jtcranmer> ah yes the infamous
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2295. # [18:58] <jtcranmer> "we have five different coding styles in this file. which one should I use?" problem
2296. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, the one I approve of
2297. # [18:58] <mconley> the answer is clearly to invent a sixth
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2299. # [18:58] <jtcranmer> mailnews has a worse issue... "we have years of several automated whitespace cleanup patches being applied"
2300. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> Hi, Serge!
2301. # [18:59] <jtcranmer> =G is sometimes recommended when trying to read files
2302. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> =G?
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2306. # [18:59] <jtcranmer> it's the vim command for "autoindent the rest of the file"
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2308. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> Ah
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2326. # [19:06] <mconley> ehsan: hm - so, you told me in the bug that approval is not required - but mozilla-inbound just bounced my push
2327. # [19:07] <mconley> ehsan: I guess I'll request approval?
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2329. # [19:07] <Ms2ger> mconley, bug #?
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2332. # [19:07] <@ehsan> mconley: say a=tracking-firefox in the commit message
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2336. # [19:08] <mconley> ehsan: alrighty
2337. # [19:08] <mconley> Ms2ger: bug 746993
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2339. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> What he said, then
2340. # [19:09] <jtcranmer> /m/sg firebot uuid
2341. # [19:09] <jtcranmer> bleach
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2380. # [19:27] <jdm> another per-window private browsing task bites the dust
2381. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> You?
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2386. # [19:34] <@ehsan> jdm++
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2388. # [19:35] <jdm> ah crap, my tests fail when run as part of the suite
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2395. # [19:37] <JonathanS> I would like to merge search bar and address bar :)
2396. # [19:37] <jhammel> who wouldn't? ;)
2397. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> Chrome does that, let's copy it
2398. # [19:38] <krit> Ms2ger++
2399. # [19:38] <WG9s> People who actually know the difference between i now the url and i am trying to search perhaps? just sayin'
2400. # [19:39] <krit> Ms2ger: When do you switch to WebKit?
2401. # [19:39] <JonathanS> jhammel, I usually search file name in the address bar, damn habit
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2403. # [19:39] <@bz> JonathanS: there's an extension for that
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2405. # [19:39] <jhammel> bz: there's a meme for that :P
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2407. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> krit, when you pull the Gecko source from my cold dead hands
2408. # [19:39] <JonathanS> bz, i see what you did there like replace app to extension
2409. # [19:39] <WG9s> Or perhaps another borswer that lets you do that.
2410. # [19:40] <Ms2ger> krit, when is Adobe going to base all its software on Gecko? :)
2411. # [19:40] <WG9s> Never?
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2413. # [19:41] <Ms2ger> krit, and if you can't give me that, when do I get a transforms CR? :)
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2415. # [19:42] <krit> Ms2ger: as soon as possible.(At least for the later one :))
2416. # [19:42] <@bz> JonathanS: no, I was serious
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2418. # [19:42] <@bz> JonathanS: there's an extension that does this, if you really want it
2419. # [19:42] <JonathanS> sure
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2421. # [19:42] <Ms2ger> krit, I was hoping that... Now, why hasn't the spec been updated for 3 weeks? :)
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2425. # [19:43] <krit> Ms2ger: well, just because it was not updated, it doesn't mean that the work stops :) But yes, I have some edits for next week
2426. # [19:43] <@smaug> Ms2ger: whaat, which spec is obsolete ?
2427. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> krit, I sure hope it doesn't mean that ;)
2428. # [19:44] <@smaug> no updated in 3 weeks, ancient, history
2429. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> In that time frame one can get a horticulture degree
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2432. # [19:45] <@smaug> bah
2433. # [19:45] <krit> Ms2ger: hopefully specifications are not done by people who just did a horticulture degree in 3 weeks :P
2434. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> krit, unfortunately, I haven't managed to rope smaug into editing any specs yet :)
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2437. # [19:47] <@smaug> give me some more time
2438. # [19:47] <krit> Ms2ger: I assume smaug has done more than just a horticulture degree. So push him :)
2439. # [19:47] <@smaug> Ms2ger: if you could take all my reviews ;)
2440. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> Hah
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2442. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> smaug, I get enough regressions into the tree without spending half of every day on reviews :)
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2444. # [19:48] <Ms2ger> krit, so, any ETA for CR? :)
2445. # [19:49] <krit> Ms2ger: I would vote for it
2446. # [19:49] <krit> Ms2ger: but not yet
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2449. # [19:49] <krit> Ms2ger: (after we reached LCWD of course :P)
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2451. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> krit, so, when is that? :)
2452. # [19:50] <krit> Ms2ger: hopefully as soon as possible :P
2453. # [19:50] * krit fells bad now...
2454. # [19:50] * krit goes back working on the spec..
2455. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> Wasn't that *definitely* within 3 months half a year ago? :)
2456. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> Ah, mission accomplished :)
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2458. # [19:51] <mounir> our mercurial server only checks for one a in the entire push?
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2460. # [19:52] <mounir> one a=
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2462. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> Dunno, check the hook
2463. # [19:53] <mounir> it seems like
2464. # [19:53] <mounir> someone have been able to land like 10 patches with one marked a=b2g-only while only half of them were really b2g-only
2465. # [19:53] <mounir> sad... :(
2466. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> Did you really expect this to work out?
2467. # [19:54] <Ms2ger> You must be new here :)
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2470. # [19:55] <jgilbert> hilarity ensues
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2472. # [19:56] <krit> Ms2ger: at least one change for today: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-transforms/ testing information.
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2479. # [20:00] <krit> Ms2ger: it is called progress :D
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2481. # [20:00] <@bz> will passing --disable-methodjit to Firefox's build do the right thing and pass it on to the js/src configure?
2482. # [20:00] <Ms2ger> krit, I'll leave you alone to work now ;)
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2484. # [20:01] <krit> Ms2ger: hehe thanks
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2523. # [20:23] <espindola> davidb, how do I reproduce the problem in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743680?
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2527. # [20:25] <davidb> espindola: use clang on linux, make sure a11y build config is enabled (not disabled)
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2529. # [20:25] <davidb> thanks for looking
2530. # [20:25] <espindola> davidb, what is the configure option?
2531. # [20:25] <davidb> espindola: if you don't have anything about accessibility in our mozconfig you are good to go
2532. # [20:25] <davidb> our/your
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2534. # [20:26] <espindola> davidb, is browser/config/mozconfigs/linux64/debug ok?
2535. # [20:26] <davidb> espindola: for good measure (ac_add_options --enable-accessibility)
2536. # [20:26] <espindola> ok
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2543. # [20:28] <ekr_> Is there some facility for writing unit tests of code that I've added?
2544. # [20:29] <ekr_> gtest?
2545. # [20:29] <ekr_> anything?
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2547. # [20:29] <reuben> ekr_, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_automated_testing
2548. # [20:29] <ekr_> outstanding!
2549. # [20:30] <espindola> davidb, what version of clang you used?
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2551. # [20:30] <davidb> 1 sec
2552. # [20:31] <davidb> espindola: 3.0 (i386, thread model: posix)
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2554. # [20:31] <espindola> ok
2555. # [20:32] <espindola> davidb, you built it?
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2557. # [20:32] <espindola> or found a package somewhere?
2558. # [20:32] <davidb> espindola: i have the error from comment 13
2559. # [20:32] <davidb> oh clang i don't recall
2560. # [20:32] <davidb> probably a package
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2562. # [20:33] <davidb> i'm not usually on linux these days
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2566. # [20:36] <ekr_> reuben: this seems like a good start... I was kinda hoping there would be gtest-style framework with macros for ASSERT, EQUALs, etc..? No joy?
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2569. # [20:37] <jdm> this is the future - why do I still need to write tests?
2570. # [20:37] <jdm> grumble grumble
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2573. # [20:38] <bwinton> jdm: Because you haven't written the test-writing-bot yet?
2574. # [20:38] <jdm> genetic algorithm to devise tests
2575. # [20:38] <jdm> repeat until something passes that used to fail
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2577. # [20:40] <ekr_> ok, so bad.
2578. # [20:40] <ekr_> :)
2579. # [20:40] <jdm> ekr_: depending on the framework, there are functions like is(), isnot(), etc.
2580. # [20:41] <mcot> hey all
2581. # [20:41] <ekr_> I'm writing a compiled in test
2582. # [20:41] <jdm> ekr_: oh, that's unfortunate
2583. # [20:41] <ekr_> I.e. unit tests for C++ code.
2584. # [20:41] <ekr_> unfortunate?
2585. # [20:41] <jdm> yeah, that's the least pleasant way of doing it
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2588. # [20:41] <jdm> also completely outside the range of my experience
2589. # [20:42] <jdm> ekr_: what's the code you're testing?
2590. # [20:42] <mcot> I'm looking for the best way to get a notification when a page is completly loaded... meaning all documents loaded, all resources downloaded, and onload events run
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2592. # [20:42] <ekr_> Some new code I'm writing to do the WebRTC transport layer
2593. # [20:42] <ekr_> Like a wrapper for the ICE stack, etc.
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2595. # [20:42] <jdm> ouch
2596. # [20:42] <ekr_> So, unit tests are kinda needed.
2597. # [20:43] <mcot> I'm already using web progress listener
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2601. # [20:44] <nemo> So, I was experimenting with: http://css3.bradshawenterprises.com/flip/
2602. # [20:45] <nemo> hm. you know, before I ask... :)
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2607. # [20:46] <nemo> hrm. no. that's not it
2608. # [20:46] <nemo> Anyway. http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase248.xhtml - so. I was just trying to replicate his but using figure and figcaption
2609. # [20:46] <nemo> and it is very flickery in firefox
2610. # [20:46] <nemo> chrome doesn't seem to render it right at all
2611. # [20:47] <nemo> was wondering if I was doing something stupid or if this is a legit rendering bug
2612. # [20:47] <tbsaunde> espindola: davidb note it only reproduces with ld.bfd not ld.gold
2613. # [20:48] <espindola> that is strange
2614. # [20:48] <davidb> although ld.gold still gets upset right?
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2616. # [20:48] <espindola> tbsaunde, can you run
2617. # [20:48] <espindola> find . -name *.o | xargs nm | grep _ZN12nsAccessible4RoleEv
2618. # [20:49] <espindola> in your build directory?
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2620. # [20:49] <bjacob> Ms2ger: in this comment, what did you mean with "doxygen fwiw" ? this is doxygen style. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732875#c25
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2622. # [20:49] <tbsaunde> espindola: I don't build with clang do you still want that?
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2624. # [20:50] <tbsaunde> davidb: no, only before the first fix
2625. # [20:50] <espindola> tbsaunde, ah, I though you were having the same problem
2626. # [20:50] <espindola> tbsaunde, but sure, would be useful for comparison
2627. # [20:50] <tbsaunde> espindola: no
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2630. # [20:51] <tbsaunde> espindola: I don't have aterribly recent build so it'll be a little
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2633. # [20:52] <davidb> espindola: see comment 26
2634. # [20:53] <nemo> hm. chrome was me neglecting a CSS tag I think
2635. # [20:53] <nemo> hrm. nope
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2637. # [20:53] <nemo> still being silly
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2639. # [20:54] <@ehsan> jdm: do you want me to land bug 729204 on birch?
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2642. # [20:56] <@ehsan> jdm: also bug 729162
2643. # [20:56] <jdm> ehsan: yes, that would be convenient
2644. # [20:56] <@ehsan> ok will do
2645. # [20:56] <jdm> thanks
2646. # [20:57] <@ehsan> jdm: done
2647. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> bjacob, yes, that was a reply to Waldo
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2649. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> bjacob, now, I would suggest javadoc :)
2650. # [20:59] <tbsaunde> espindola: fwiw http://paste.debian.net/164014/
2651. # [20:59] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
2652. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> mounir--
2653. # [20:59] <froydnj> so much negativity
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2658. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> froydnj--
2659. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> :)
2660. # [21:00] <davidb> espindola: I was wrong earlier, gold does complete ok.
2661. # [21:01] <espindola> debugging, there is something really strange in this ...
2662. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> "Please template on the function itself, not on the function pointer."
2663. # [21:01] * Ms2ger wonders what that means
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2665. # [21:02] <sheppy> Ms2ger: ESL?
2666. # [21:02] * Ms2ger waves at edmorley|airport
2667. # [21:02] <sheppy> Or is "please" a typo of "place"?
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2669. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> Coming back to civilisation as well?
2670. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> sheppy, English as a Second LanguageN
2671. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> ?
2672. # [21:03] <sheppy> Of all the British spellings of words, why is the "s" in "civilisation" the only one that literally makes me giggle?
2673. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> Because it's so colourful?
2674. # [21:04] <Mossop> You guys spell that with a z?
2675. # [21:04] <sheppy> Yes. "Civilization."
2676. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> Mossop, they don't spell it
2677. # [21:04] <Mossop> Crazy
2678. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> Because they don't have it
2679. # [21:04] <Mossop> hah
2680. # [21:05] <sheppy> I mean, it's pronounced with a "z", so spelling it with an "s" is quaint and odd to me. :)
2681. # [21:05] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
2682. # [21:05] <espindola> ok, I can reproduce the problem
2683. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> mounir--
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2685. # [21:05] <NeilAway> (reading hours of scrollback is fun!)
2686. # [21:05] <@khuey> edmorley|airport: leaving so soon?
2687. # [21:05] <sheppy> Ms2ger--
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2689. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> sheppy--
2690. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> And congratulations on your anniversary
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2693. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> Man, you're old
2694. # [21:05] <sheppy> And that's how the Great Karma War of 2012 began. Over the spelling of "civilization."
2695. # [21:05] * edmorley|airport waves at Ms2ger and khuey
2696. # [21:05] <sheppy> Thanks. I know I am.
2697. # [21:06] <sheppy> I'm easily at the high end of the age range of mozillians. :)
2698. # [21:06] * Ms2ger has no idea how old edmorley|airport is
2699. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Should've friended him... :)
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2701. # [21:07] <NeilAway> Ms2ger++
2702. # [21:07] <edmorley|airport> Ms2ger, well if you came along to an event, you'd know :-P
2703. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, are you going to explain those? :)
2704. # [21:07] <@khuey> probably could have guessed from watching air mozilla
2705. # [21:07] <edmorley|airport> Khuey, yeah had gone really quickly :-(
2706. # [21:07] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: only if I can -- you for not remembering your own scrollback :-P
2707. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Hah
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2709. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I am unable to guess what you find offensive in what I say ;)
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2715. # [21:10] <edmorley|airport> Khuey, airmozilla? Thought camera wasn't working when Clint introduced?
2716. # [21:10] <Ms2ger> That's what they made you think
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2719. # [21:11] <@khuey> edmorley|airport: I have no idea, it was 3 am here!
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2721. # [21:12] <edmorley|airport> Ah, yes you're upside down at the moment
2722. # [21:12] <@khuey> indeed
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2728. # [21:14] <edmorley|airport> khuey, successful trip?
2729. # [21:14] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
2730. # [21:14] <@khuey> edmorley|airport: we fixed the memory leak!
2731. # [21:14] <@smaug> *the*
2732. # [21:15] <@smaug> *the* patch hasn't landed yet :)
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2735. # [21:16] <edmorley|airport> :-)
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2740. # [21:20] <edmorley|airport> ehsan, had a good chat with Clint yesterday about my role and how we should use the new sheriff duty site, will drop you an email once I'm back in the UK
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2742. # [21:20] <@smaug> edmorley|airport: will you work in London office ?
2743. # [21:20] <@ehsan> edmorley|airport: sounds good!
2744. # [21:20] <@ehsan> sancus: safe travel :)
2745. # [21:20] <@ehsan> sancus: sorry, edmorley|airport^
2746. # [21:21] <sancus> wow how do you get sancus out of that, ehsan? :P
2747. # [21:21] <@ehsan> sancus: my fingers work in mysterious ways ;)
2748. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> sancus, but safe travel to you too, if you go anywhere ;)
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2750. # [21:21] <@ehsan> oh yeah, absolutely!
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2752. # [21:22] <edmorley|airport> Smaug, yeah :-)
2753. # [21:22] <sheppy> "my fingers work in mysterious ways" sounds a little creepy, ehsan. :)
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2755. # [21:22] <edmorley|airport> ehsan, thank you
2756. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> sheppy, guttermind
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2758. # [21:22] <sheppy> Ms2ger: indeed.
2759. # [21:22] <@ehsan> sheppy: then my goal is accomplished!
2760. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> edmorley|airport, there is a new sheriff duty site?
2761. # [21:22] <edmorley|airport> There's always one that lowers the tone
2762. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> Or is writing it your job?
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2766. # [21:25] <edmorley|airport> Ms2Ger, https://sheriff-dev.allizom.org/
2767. # [21:25] <edmorley|airport> Bah can't work out tab complete in AndChat
2768. # [21:25] <Ms2ger> Are they getting you a new computer already? :)
2769. # [21:26] <mcsmurf> AndChat, is this the Android IRC client?
2770. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> Nice hat
2771. # [21:27] <edmorley|airport> Well I was given one in the SF office but en-us keyboard and mapping to en-GB gives no way to use backslash or pipe lol
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2774. # [21:27] <Callek> edmorley|airport: bah that doesn't have anything more than a login under settings
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2776. # [21:27] <Callek> I almost suspected the tree-status app to be part of that
2777. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> "Kyle Huey (me)"
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2779. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> Say what?
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2781. # [21:27] <edmorley|airport> ms2ger, So returned and en-GB on order for London office, wk or so
2782. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> I see
2783. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> "Code on Github"
2784. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> Boo.
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2786. # [21:29] <@khuey> Ms2ger: ?
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2788. # [21:29] <edmorley|airport> Ms2ger, Giving up i7, ssd and 8GB ram this morning was sad faces though
2789. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> Heh
2790. # [21:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, https://sheriff-dev.allizom.org/
2791. # [21:30] <edmorley|airport> Ms2ger, #firstworldproblems and all that
2792. # [21:30] <Ms2ger> :)
2793. # [21:32] <espindola> davidb, patch for you
2794. # [21:32] <davidb> espindola: r+ thanks
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2797. # [21:34] <espindola> davidb, do you know when m-i will open?
2798. # [21:34] <davidb> no
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2800. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> espindola, Wed
2801. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> You can land on birch
2802. # [21:34] <@ehsan> espindola: land on birch in the mean time
2803. # [21:34] <davidb> i guess wednesday is after uplift
2804. # [21:34] <espindola> Ms2ger, !
2805. # [21:35] <espindola> ehsan, that is inbound's inbound?
2806. # [21:35] <davidb> birch is the current inbound yeah :)
2807. # [21:35] <@ehsan> no
2808. # [21:35] <davidb> ?
2809. # [21:35] <espindola> do we have a bots on it?
2810. # [21:35] <@ehsan> espindola: birch is the inbound for unapproved patches
2811. # [21:35] <@ehsan> a bots?
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2813. # [21:35] <espindola> is the code there being built?
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2817. # [21:36] <@ehsan> oh yeah
2818. # [21:36] <davidb> getting approval might be easiest
2819. # [21:36] <@ehsan> espindola: it has a tbpl and all
2820. # [21:36] <espindola> ehsan, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Birch?
2821. # [21:36] <@ehsan> yes
2822. # [21:36] <espindola> ok, will land there
2823. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> davidb, not getting approval is strictly easier, because you don't have to get approval :)
2824. # [21:36] <@ehsan> espindola: but you don't need to watch the tree
2825. # [21:37] <davidb> Ms2ger: :)
2826. # [21:37] <espindola> well, it is an extra hg clone
2827. # [21:37] <espindola> but yes, even hg is better than asking for approval :-)
2828. # [21:37] <@ehsan> espindola: I'd be happy to land the patches for you :)
2829. # [21:37] <@ehsan> lol
2830. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> espindola, you can pull it into your inbound tree too
2831. # [21:38] <catlee-buildduty> yeah, local clones ftw
2832. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> Not even a local clone, just use the same tree
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2834. # [21:40] <espindola> Ms2ger, like having multiple remotes in git
2835. # [21:40] <espindola> ?
2836. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> I am happy not to know what that means
2837. # [21:41] <Mook_as> espindola: yes, exactly.
2838. # [21:41] <tbsaunde> espindola: yes, only with a bit less sanity
2839. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> Thank you
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2841. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, more, surely :)
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2843. # [21:41] <tbsaunde> well, maybe not less sanity, but certainly more manuel
2844. # [21:41] <espindola> Mook_as, I should try that again. I tried when I started, but hg confused the hell out of me
2845. # [21:41] <Mook_as> _different_ axes of sanity, I think. they're both pretty insane.
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2850. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> fantasai, you sound a little bit annoyed in that css-wg email ;)
2851. # [21:46] * tbsaunde finds git fairly reasonable
2852. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, boo :)
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2860. # [21:52] <@smaug> so, with the new download thingie, how do I clear all the downloads in the list ?
2861. # [21:53] <@smaug> ah, contextmenu
2862. # [21:53] <@smaug> not clear
2863. # [21:53] * @smaug files a bug
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2873. # [21:58] <WG9s> smaug: bug # ?
2874. # [21:59] <@smaug> Bug 747506
2875. # [21:59] <@smaug> WG9s: ^
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2877. # [22:00] <WG9s> thanks added me as cc
2878. # [22:01] <WG9s> I might even try to figure out a ptch to fix if i have time
2879. # [22:01] <WG9s> patche
2880. # [22:01] <WG9s> patch
2881. # [22:02] <WG9s> hmm or perhaps I should just learn how to type ;-)
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2884. # [22:03] <zzzzz> maybe you were thinking in French
2885. # [22:03] <zzzzz> :P
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2893. # [22:07] <davidb> espindola: you tested your fix right? (I didn't)
2894. # [22:09] <davidb> I will if needed, but otherwise I've moved on to using ld gold
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2910. # [22:19] <@ehsan> catlee-buildduty: lol (on bug 742008) :)
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2915. # [22:20] <catlee-buildduty> ehsan: :)
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2918. # [22:25] <espindola> davidb, I tested, yes
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2921. # [22:25] <espindola> it is just that is being *really* slow at cloning :-(
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2926. # [22:30] <@bz> sfink, bjacob: the new bindings will make a lot of this gunk go away
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2930. # [22:33] <bjacob> bz: cool
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2934. # [22:35] <bjacob> Waldo: ping
2935. # [22:36] <bjacob> Waldo: as Ms2ger said, i was using doxygen markup
2936. # [22:36] <bjacob> Waldo: doxygen also accepts @foo instead of \foo. if that makes javadoc more happy, we can do that
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2938. # [22:37] <bjacob> Waldo: this syntax is very widespread across doc tools, so it's quite useful regardless of which tools may be chosen someday for mfbt docs
2939. # [22:37] <bjacob> Waldo: also, my text editor (kate) highlights it
2940. # [22:37] <@bz> bjacob: for example, there are now three overloads of BufferData, and the binding code decides which one to call directly:
2941. # [22:37] <@bz> void BufferData(WebGLenum target, WebGLsizeiptr size, WebGLenum usage);
2942. # [22:37] <@bz> void BufferData(WebGLenum target, mozilla::dom::ArrayBufferView &data,
2943. # [22:37] <@bz> WebGLenum usage);
2944. # [22:37] <@bz> void BufferData(WebGLenum target, mozilla::dom::ArrayBuffer *data,
2945. # [22:37] <@bz> WebGLenum usage);
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2947. # [22:38] <Jesse> cjones: if you want some canvas bugs, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=745676,745676,745818,745818,746489,746489,746491,746491,746495,746495,746497,746497,746813,746813,746844,746844,746847,746847,746849,746849,746866,746866,746896,746896,747132,747132,747302,747302 ;)
2948. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> bjacob, really? I very rarely see \-style
2949. # [22:38] <@bz> bjacob: btw, those last two have some code duplication, but tht was already there, so I just didn't change it
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2951. # [22:39] <bjacob> bz: wonderful, i've been looking forward to this since i started!
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2953. # [22:39] <bjacob> Ms2ger: yeah, i dont know why people use @ syntax, i find \ much cleaner as it's more visually distinguishable from a regular alnum char
2954. # [22:40] <WG9s> jesse: a shorter list might be more useful. Just sayin' a list that ling i will completelhy ignore one with more like 2 or 4 bugs I might actually look at.
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2956. # [22:40] <Ms2ger> bjacob, and my text editor highlights @s :)
2957. # [22:40] <bjacob> Ms2ger: doesn't it highlight \ ?
2958. # [22:40] <Jesse> WG9s: it's in reply to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746813#c7
2959. # [22:40] <Ms2ger> I don't think so
2960. # [22:40] <bjacob> Ms2ger: try please
2961. # [22:40] <Jesse> WG9s: also i screwed up and each bug number is in the list twice
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2963. # [22:41] <Ms2ger> bjacob, where does CheckedInt live now?
2964. # [22:41] <bjacob> Ms2ger: xpcom/ds
2965. # [22:41] <Ms2ger> Ta
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2967. # [22:41] <Ms2ger> bjacob, nope
2968. # [22:41] <WG9s> Even a liost half that size is too many for me to even look at to see if there is one I want to take. just sayin'
2969. # [22:42] <bjacob> Ms2ger: interesting. ok.
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2975. # [22:42] <Ms2ger> bjacob, not that I care strongly :)
2976. # [22:42] <WG9s> and sould be much better if they were in a bug # bug# type format so that they were seperately linked
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2980. # [22:45] <RyanVM> cjones: ping
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2986. # [22:46] <Ms2ger> Oh, is b2g "Firefox phones" now?
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2988. # [22:46] <@bz> Ms2ger: seems like the obvious way to leverage the brand
2989. # [22:47] <@bz> ms2ger: if true
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2994. # [22:48] <Ms2ger> bz, it appears to be what Aza calls them
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2997. # [22:50] <bent> PhirePhone?
2998. # [22:50] <bent> FireFone?
2999. # [22:50] <bent> choices choices
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3001. # [22:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: Aza or Asa?
3002. # [22:52] <Ms2ger> z
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3007. # [22:54] <espindola> davidb, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Birch&rev=ab142890b086
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3019. # [23:01] <bsmith> I want to write a lot of C++ unit tests for necko/psm/webrtc and somebody suggested I write them based on gtest. Is there any reason not to do so?
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3022. # [23:02] <bsmith> http://code.google.com/p/googletest/
3023. # [23:02] <derickh> I am working on a patch. During compilation, it reports an error saying function 'XXXX' is not declared in this scope. I guess it's because I missed to include a header or namespace, how can I find which header I was supposed to include.
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3029. # [23:04] <padenot> derickh: put the function name in https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ ?
3030. # [23:04] <@bz> derickh: it depends on the function
3031. # [23:04] <@bz> derickh: what function is it?
3032. # [23:05] <@bz> (e.g. this may need a Mozilla header or a system header)
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3034. # [23:06] <WG9s> well since no one seems to be able to give me a better list of bugs for help on, i am signing off for the day.
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3037. # [23:06] <derickh> thanks padenot and @bz
3038. # [23:06] <derickh> I found it using the search
3039. # [23:06] <Ms2ger> bsmith, yes
3040. # [23:07] <bsmith> Ms2ger: what should I do instead?
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3042. # [23:07] <Ms2ger> It would be the twentieth C++ unit test format
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3044. # [23:07] <Ms2ger> khuey is the expert here :)
3045. # [23:07] <bsmith> \
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3047. # [23:08] <bsmith> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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3068. # [23:19] <Waldo> bjacob: let's go with @foo, then; that gets used everywhere, \foo I'm not even sure I've seen outside that file
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3089. # [23:28] <bjacob> Waldo: alright
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3110. # [23:37] <jviereck> hi. Here is the mapping between "@mozilla.org/content/canvas-rendering-context;1?id=2d" and the actual implementation nsCanvasRenderingContext2D made? See http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/nsHTMLCanvasElement.cpp#468
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3112. # [23:37] <jviereck> sorry: "Here is" = "Where is"
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3115. # [23:39] <Mook_as> jviereck: roughly, via http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/build/nsLayoutModule.cpp#1102
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3117. # [23:39] <Mook_as> which gets you to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/build/nsLayoutModule.cpp#969
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3119. # [23:39] <jviereck> Mook_as: thanks!
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3123. # [23:40] <Mook_as> (for future reference, started with http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=canvas-rendering-context; )
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3133. # [23:45] <@ehsan> jimm: ping
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3135. # [23:47] <RyanVM> philor: I'm out
3136. # [23:47] <philor> RyanVM: have fun!
3137. # [23:47] <RyanVM> ttyl
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3139. # [23:48] <Waldo> you can't go! all the plants are going to die!
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3141. # [23:51] <bjacob> sfink: FYI, the reason why i dont like function pointer template parameters are: 1) it can easily prevent function inlining; 2) more general/abstract concern: I like to think of template resolution as an "early compile time" thing while function pointers are supposed to be known at the end of compilation
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3145. # [23:52] <RyanVM> Waldo: let em burn, I say
3146. # [23:52] <@bz> bjacob: so a template<void Foo()> would be ok?
3147. # [23:52] <sfink> bjacob: oh, I agree with you. I just hadn't figured out how to do actual function parameters when I wrote that part. You'll notice that for a test case I wrote later, I did it right.
3148. # [23:52] <@bz> bjacob: but a template<(void *)Foo()> not?
3149. # [23:52] <bjacob> bz: yes
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3151. # [23:52] <bjacob> bz: exactly
3152. # [23:53] <@bz> makes sense
3153. # [23:53] <sfink> I think that 2nd one would be template <void (*Foo)()>, no?
3154. # [23:53] <@bz> er, yeah
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3156. # [23:53] * @bz hates C's function pointer syntax
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3158. # [23:53] <@bz> I also hate C++ not allowing me to typedef function template
3159. # [23:53] * @bz had to revert to macros
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3161. # [23:54] <bjacob> bz: typedef function template?
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3163. # [23:54] <@bz> bjacob: I wanted to write code like this:
3164. # [23:54] <@bz> template<JSObject *CreateFoo()> JSObject* GetMeANewFoo() { /* call CreateFoo in here */ }
3165. # [23:54] <@bz> and then:
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3167. # [23:55] <@bz> typedef GetMeANewFoo<JS_NewInt32Array> NewInt32Array;
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3169. # [23:55] <@bz> But no can do
3170. # [23:55] <bjacob> bz: so
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3172. # [23:55] <@bz> So instead I have...
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3174. # [23:56] <bjacob> bz: the traditional way to solve that in c++98 is wrapping your function in a template struct and template in that typename
3175. # [23:56] <@bz> yeah
3176. # [23:56] <@bz> but that makes the callsites suck, right?
3177. # [23:56] <@bz> or no?
3178. # [23:56] <bjacob> not too much
3179. # [23:56] <@bz> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1585152 is what I ended up with
3180. # [23:56] <jimm> ehsan: pong
3181. # [23:56] <bjacob> you just call as foo<T>::run()
3182. # [23:56] <@bz> And callers just do NewInt32Array()
3183. # [23:56] <bjacob> instead of foo<t>()
3184. # [23:57] <@bz> see, the idea was to avoid the <t> completely
3185. # [23:57] <@ehsan> jimm: so, are we worried about whether vc11 bins are run on xp because they're run during our build process?
3186. # [23:57] <@bz> give the functions sane names
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3188. # [23:57] <bjacob> bz: well, you can make a typedef for foo<T>
3189. # [23:57] <bjacob> like FooInt32
3190. # [23:57] <@bz> hmm
3191. # [23:58] <@bz> so I could have a Int32Array::create()
3192. # [23:58] <@bz> or something?
3193. # [23:58] * philor is now known as philor|away
3194. # [23:58] <bjacob> yes!
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3196. # [23:58] <@ehsan> bz: here's something to distract you with, if you're interested in being distracted :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=617105&action=edit
3197. # [23:58] * @bz ponders
3198. # [23:58] <@bz> bjacob: I could go either way
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3200. # [23:58] <jimm> ehsan: not sure I understand the question. we can't build on XP at all because vc11 won't install on it. What we want to solve is this problem where vc11 generated bins don't execute on xp.
3201. # [23:59] <@bz> bjacob: which would you prefer to see in the canvas code? ;)
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3204. # [23:59] <@bz> right now the code ends up like so
3205. # [23:59] <@bz> JSObject* obj = NewFloat32Array(cx, unitSize, fv);
3206. # [23:59] <@bz> if (!obj) {
3207. # [23:59] <@bz> rv = NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY;
3208. # [23:59] <@bz> }
3209. # [23:59] <@bz> return JS::ObjectOrNullValue(obj);
3210. # [23:59] <@ehsan> jimm: see, that's what I thought, but then you said you're worrying about builds on xp
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3213. # [23:59] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
3214. # [23:59] <@ehsan> jimm: now, I'm confused, with a capital C!
3215. # Session Close: Sat Apr 21 00:00:00 2012

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