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# Session Start: Sat Apr 28 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <blassey> Callek: does it?
# [00:00] <dholbert> jviereck, which makes layout/reftests/css-visited/ (and a few other files) visible to the mochitest harness
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# [00:00] <Callek> blassey: bottom of https://build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-aurora
# [00:01] <dholbert> jviereck, ...and the mochitest that loads them is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/test/test_visited_reftests.html?force=1
# [00:01] <jviereck> dholbert: the thing is a little bit more complicated. I save a page to PDF that uses the new mozPrintCallback. Then I have a ref-test page, that has exactly the same output as the canvas, but using divs. I save the ref-test as a PDF as well
# [00:02] <jviereck> dholbert: then I load both PDFs using PDF.JS, create some pixel data and compare them using reftest
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# [00:02] <dholbert> jviereck, gotcha. then you probably want to just stick it in a mochitests directory
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# [00:02] <jviereck> dholbert: that's the "/test" ones?
# [00:02] <dholbert> jviereck, yup, exactly.
# [00:02] <dholbert> jviereck, possibly a new mochitests directory
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# [00:03] <dholbert> jviereck, if there's a logical place for it (maybe a new 'test' folder in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/printing/ )
# [00:03] <jviereck> dholbert: there is none under /layout/printing yet, so I will create one. Good to know what needs to be done and knowing the TODO list gets longer and longer for this feature :/
# [00:03] <dholbert> jviereck, heh
# [00:04] <jviereck> dholbert: do you think this kind of testing mght be useful for testing other printing features as well?
# [00:04] <jviereck> seems like you have already a bunch of ref-tests for printing/pagination
# [00:05] <joduinn-mtg> blassey: on it.
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# [00:05] <blassey> joduinn: I think I did it
# [00:05] <blassey> with rail's help
# [00:05] <blassey> it would be good to confirm that though
# [00:05] * Callek compares his face with rail
# [00:05] <Callek> :-P
# [00:06] <blassey> Callek: rail came over here physically :-)
# [00:06] <dholbert> jviereck, Yeah, I think so
# [00:06] <aki> blassey: you kicked off the aurora nightly?
# [00:06] <blassey> aki: I think I did
# [00:06] <blassey> but I don't see it yet
# [00:06] <aki> i can look
# [00:06] <Callek> blassey: ahh ok, well yea I know I didn't go over there physically
# [00:06] <dholbert> jviereck, printing is mostly (/entirely?) tested via reftests at the moment, but as soon as we have some printing mochitests to add (as we now do), that's the time to create a printing mochitests directory
# [00:07] <dholbert> jviereck, and your code will totally help us test situations that reftest-print won't let us test
# [00:07] * joduinn thanks aki for the assist, and goes back to figuring out 10.0.4 / l10n snafu
# [00:07] <dholbert> jviereck, so I imagine we'll have more mochitests added to this directory going forward
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# [00:09] <jviereck> dholbert: how does the ref-tests for printing work right now? Is the print output forwarded to some image surface and that's then used as reference image?
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# [00:10] <dholbert> jviereck, nope, nothing as fancy as that
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# [00:10] <dholbert> jviereck, we use a special hook to render to a paginated area instead of a normal area
# [00:10] <dholbert> s/area/container/
# [00:11] <aki> yeah, i don't either. i'm going to kick one off and if we get two then oh well, if we get one we can figure it out later
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# [00:12] <dholbert> jviereck, it's effectively like a simplified Print Preview rendering (windows & linux-style, not mac-pdf-preview style)
# [00:13] <jviereck> dholbert: does it use the exact same code path as for printing or the ones for print preview then (they are different as I've noticed)
# [00:13] <dholbert> jviereck, it's closer to the print-preview code-path, IIRC
# [00:13] <dholbert> jviereck, & I believe it exercises nsPageFrame / nsSimplePageSequenceFrame in some form
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# [00:15] <jviereck> dholbert: sorry, I don't get what you mean by "exercises" from a language point. Do you mean, it changes these classes slightly?
# [00:15] <dholbert> I just mean we create instances of those classes and use them
# [00:15] <jviereck> ahh
# [00:16] <dholbert> as opposed, to, say, a "printing" test that might use -moz-column instead of an actual page
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# [00:16] <@smaug> 2 days still and I've been @mozilla 6 years
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# [00:18] <Waldo> nice
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# [00:18] <Matti> smaug: come back at 10 years and you get a beer from me :-)
# [00:18] <jviereck> dholbert: thanks a lot for these explainations - that was very helpful again.
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# [00:19] <dholbert> jviereck, no problem!
# [00:19] <jviereck> roc: dholbert: I try to look into the testing stuff next week then and let you know what I come up with - have a good weekend guys!
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# [00:36] <joduinn> blassey: mfinkle hey, in MoTo are there any of the mobile QA folks still there (vs on a plane)?
# [00:37] <blassey> yes
# [00:37] <blassey> mostly drinking though
# [00:38] <philor> that's the best sort of QA folks
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# [00:40] <blassey> joduinn: I'll go get one
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# [00:41] <jhammel> jwir3: like tallowen?
# [00:41] <jhammel> sorry, talloween
# [00:41] * jwir3 was already drinking, prior to that message. ;)
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# [00:41] <jhammel> you mean you drank him already? :(
# [00:41] <jwir3> haha
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# [00:44] <kbrosnan> joduinn: aurora build ready?
# [00:45] <joduinn> kbrosnan: even better. in addition to aurora, we now also have a chemspill 10.0.4xulfennec
# [00:45] <joduinn> builds just starting.
# [00:45] <joduinn> who from mobile QA is still around?
# [00:45] <kbrosnan> well i'm on a plane in 30m
# [00:46] <kbrosnan> or heading to one
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# [00:47] <jlebar> Is the guy who wrote the hacks blogpost around on IRC? Jean-Yves Perrier?
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# [00:49] <padenot> jlebar: he is teoli on irc
# [00:49] <jlebar> Thanks.
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# [00:50] <bmoss> kbrosnan: png
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# [00:53] <kbrosnan> bmoss: pong
# [00:54] <jtcranmer> is there a plan to implement <http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/StringEncoding> in Mozilla?
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# [01:01] <bmoss> kbrosnan: pong
# [01:01] <kbrosnan> present
# [01:01] <bmoss> hey there how do we test localization on mobile?
# [01:02] <bmoss> is this the language button in settings?
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# [01:02] <kbrosnan> bmoss: there are l10n smoketests
# [01:02] <kbrosnan> on litmus
# [01:02] <bmoss> were they run on 10.0.4
# [01:03] <kbrosnan> bmoss: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/6.0/Beta_1/L10N_matrix
# [01:03] <kbrosnan> bmoss: apparently not from what aaron and I saw
# [01:04] <bmoss> i know you're on a plane in just a bit
# [01:05] <bmoss> is aaron going to cover the chemspill?
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# [01:06] <kbrosnan> i'll contact him and see
# [01:06] <bmoss> thanks
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# [01:25] <jlebar> So for a remote frame, there's no chrome event handler. Do I just create a dummy node and set it as the chrome event handler?
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# [01:27] <@smaug> jlebar: chrome event handler is the message manager
# [01:27] <jlebar> smaug, docshell.chromeEventHandler is null.
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# [01:27] <jlebar> smaug, And I don't see where it would be set...
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# [01:28] <jlebar> smaug, The only place I see docshell.chromeEventHandler being set is in nsFrameLoader::MaybeCreateDocShell, but that's only for non-remote frames.
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# [01:29] <jlebar> smaug, Unless you don't expect the chrome event handler to be set as docshell.chromeEventHandler?
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# [01:30] <@smaug> jlebar: well, events propagate from top level window to message manager
# [01:31] <jlebar> smaug, Hm, okay...how do I add an event handler to the message manager, from content script? I get the message manager service?
# [01:32] <@smaug> so, ok, mm isn't chrome event listener, but a target between top level window and possible chrome event target
# [01:32] <@smaug> jlebar: from content script?
# [01:32] <@smaug> this mm isn't a service
# [01:32] <@smaug> there is separate mm for each tab
# [01:32] <jlebar> smaug, Sorry, from JS running via mm.loadFrameScript
# [01:32] <@smaug> jlebar: what do you mean with content script
# [01:33] <@smaug> yes, you can add listener there
# [01:33] <@smaug> just addEventListener("foo", ...);
# [01:33] <jlebar> smaug, Just against the global?
# [01:33] <@smaug> right
# [01:33] <jlebar> Okay, I'll try that.
# [01:33] * jlebar thinks that would be too easy.
# [01:33] <@smaug> jlebar: so, that listener runs in the child process
# [01:34] <jlebar> smaug, Right; I want to hear DOMTitleChanged.
# [01:34] <@smaug> for debugging, dump() should work
# [01:34] <@smaug> in mm context
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# [01:36] <jlebar> smaug, addEventListener against the global seems to work. I never would have tried that. Thanks. :)
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# [01:44] <joduinn> blassey: sanity check, did you see those new aurora builds available for you?
# [01:44] <joduinn> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [01:44] <joduinn> specifically for 14.0nativefennec
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# [01:59] <dbuc> dbaron: do we not support the nsresolver in querySelector?
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# [01:59] <@dbaron> dbaron, bz would know
# [01:59] <@dbaron> dbuc, ^
# [02:00] <dbuc> bz: do we support the nsresolver arg in querySelector?
# [02:00] <dbuc> I keep getting this no matter what I try for the nsresolver arg: Error: An attempt was made to create or change an object in a way which is incorrect with regard to namespaces
# [02:00] <dbuc> all im doing it logging the prefix
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# [02:04] <@smaug> !seen teoli
# [02:04] <@killer> I don't know who teoli is.
# [02:04] <firebot> teoli was last seen 3 hours, 46 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying 'Et certains hommes d'ailleurs' in #frenchmoz.
# [02:05] <sheppy> smaug: he's online right now, I'm sitting like 5 feet from him
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# [02:05] <sheppy> Not in this channel though, hm.
# [02:05] <@smaug> sheppy: wrong link in the http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/04/aurora-14-is-out-whats-new-in-it/
# [02:06] <@smaug> sheppy: MutationEvents replacement part
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# [02:06] <@smaug> should point to http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#mutation-observers
# [02:06] <@smaug> not ancient http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0745.html
# [02:06] <@smaug> teoli: ^
# [02:07] <teoli> smaug: I fix it.
# [02:07] <@smaug> thanks
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# [02:08] <teoli> smaug: fixed
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# [02:09] <@smaug> thanks
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# [02:09] <teoli> Thanks to you to point the error :-)
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# [02:44] <espindola> gosh, it was faster to build llvm+clang+compiler-rt
# [02:44] <espindola> then use that to build firefox with asan
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# [02:44] <@bz> lol
# [02:45] <espindola> and run crashtest two times with different schedulings
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# [02:45] <espindola> than to do a single windowns build to reproduce a crash
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# [02:45] <espindola> asan found the use after free I was looking for, the windows build is still going...
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# [03:06] <Bas> taras: So, initial data is D2D is much worse at drawing our chrome than GDI, D2D easily fills up a core on my CPU when rapidly switching tabs (i.e. keeping ctrl+alt pressed), GDI doesn't even fill half a core. 32% of that time is spent creating linear gradient brushes.
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# [03:07] <Bas> Most of it for backgrounds.
# [03:07] <Bas> taras: On GDI painting is 28% of the profile, on D2D 67%
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# [03:09] <@bz> bas: heh
# [03:09] <@bz> bas: webdevs do like their gradient
# [03:10] <@bz> bas: also shadow blurs
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# [03:13] <@bz> "
# [03:13] <@bz> Although it's logically wrong for an HTTP server to reply before receiving the
# [03:13] <@bz> request, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the wild."
# [03:13] * @bz bets jduell is right.
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# [03:14] <jduell> It's a wild and wooly Internet
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# [03:17] <@bz> indeed
# [03:17] <@bz> jduell: as long as they don
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# [03:17] <@bz> jduell: don't reply before the TCP connection request.... ;)
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# [04:15] <Mavericks> if a filename ends with -nx_kll what could it mean ?
# [04:16] <Mavericks> least I could find's http://www.md5center.com/md5-reverse-index.php?start=NXkLL
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# [04:21] <Mavericks> what's best way to clean up the objdir folder after completing a local build? rm -rf objdir ?
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# [04:23] <Waldo> Mavericks: yeah
# [04:23] <Mavericks> Waldo: funny as it looks like it took files i didn't to be gone . now they show up in my diff that they are deleted
# [04:24] <Waldo> erm, say again? not parsing :-)
# [04:24] <Mavericks> i mean i know i didn't delete them
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# [04:25] <Mavericks> Waldo: http://pastebin.com/ucs3U1qE
# [04:26] <Mavericks> Waldo: files under ipc/app are deleted , couple of them. i know i didn't and checked they are there as per http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/0f8ea3826bf7/ipc/app
# [04:26] <Waldo> Mavericks: use pastebin.m.o? that tells me I can't view it
# [04:26] <Mavericks> oh
# [04:27] <Mavericks> Waldo: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1602913
# [04:28] <firebot> Check-in:
# [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b5c0d6abf69b - Serge Gautherie - Bug 741070. (Bv1b-FF) browser_394759_basic.js: Use 'Services.prefs', Set 'general.warnOnAboutConfig' preference, Remove a 'whenWindowLoaded()' call, Add an 'info()' call, Nits.
# [04:28] <firebot> f=neil r=zpao.
# [04:28] <Waldo> odd; that shouldn't happen
# [04:29] <Waldo> it's definitely the case that you can have multiple objdirs for a single tree, too, so touching one modifying the srcdir would be...uncoool
# [04:29] <Waldo> uncoooooool, even
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# [04:30] <Mavericks> i think when i built it locally , i disabled angle and enabled debug. built it probably was a make error after a very long time. then i rm -rf on objdir. unapply my patch, update and apply back
# [04:30] <Mavericks> oh I see. hmmm
# [04:31] <Mavericks> what i'm thinking if those files were deleted even before I did the update (hg pull -u), shouldn't it detect they are gone and get those files
# [04:31] <Mavericks> pretty much all files except macbuild folder under http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/0f8ea3826bf7/ipc/app
# [04:32] <jtcranmer> hg revert should be capable of undeleintg files
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# [04:34] <Waldo> this stuff is only a couple steps above disgusting
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# [04:34] <Mavericks> didn't realize two more files missing under macbuild until i perused the diff
# [04:34] <Mavericks> jtcranmer: will do
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# [04:37] <Mavericks> heh they are back
# [04:37] <Mavericks> i mean the files
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# [04:52] <Mavericks> jtcranmer: once i do the revert is it possible to update existing diff to reflect that change? obviously i can't apply and do hg qrefresh as it will just end up previous unwanted state
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# [04:53] <jtcranmer> hg revert affects only the current working tree
# [04:53] <jtcranmer> the patch might not reflect those diffs
# [04:54] <jtcranmer> if it does, you'd have to apply it, revert to an older revision's copies and then refresh
# [04:55] <Kailas> Does anyone knows how to hook 'shouldLoad' or 'shouldProcess' hooks of nsIContentPolicy interface using jetpack API?
# [04:56] <Mavericks> since it's only a couple of files, is it recommended to manually add them and just do qrefresh as i'm using mq's
# [04:56] <Mavericks> jtcranmer:
# [04:56] * jtcranmer shrugs
# [04:56] <Mavericks> got it
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# [06:10] <Mavericks> jtcranmer: am at older revision, but can't refresh as working directory revision is not qtip
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# [06:38] <philor> "test_performance_now.html | undefined" feels like a test failure message that could be quite a bit funnier with a little work
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# [06:38] <catlee-away> sounds a bit like haiku
# [06:39] <philor> hmm, and mxr doesn't know of such a file, did it just get added shortly before it failed?
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# [06:42] <@khuey> or MXR isn't updating
# [06:42] <@khuey> it breaks every now and then
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# [06:43] <philor> I should be unlazy and try the new mxr
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# [06:44] <philor> ah, I didn't look far enough down the page, Gijs added it this morning
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# [06:48] <@bz> philor: it's new
# [06:48] <@bz> oh, you saw that
# [06:48] <@bz> ok, then. ;)
# [06:49] <philor> the log is filled with juicy info - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=11281645&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [06:49] <philor> INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_performance_now.html | undefined
# [06:49] <philor> ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_performance_now.html | undefined
# [06:50] <@bz> so...
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# [06:50] <@bz> what does the checked in test look like?
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# [06:50] <catlee-away> ERROR PASS success | undefined
# [06:50] <@khuey> sounds like a commentary on life
# [06:50] <@bz> the test does ok(foo)
# [06:50] <@bz> with no message
# [06:50] <@bz> I bet
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# [06:51] <philor> filed bug 749894 if you need a place to discuss that
# [06:52] <@bz> hrm
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# [06:52] <philor> but yeah, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21dcf77f7b18#l6.3
# [06:52] <@bz> the problem with no messages is we don't know which line failed, right?
# [06:52] <@bz> that's annoying
# [06:52] <@bz> thank you for filing
# [06:52] <philor> we can count, unless there's a loop
# [06:52] <@bz> there is not
# [06:52] <@bz> ah
# [06:53] <@bz> the last one failed
# [06:53] <@bz> on winnt?
# [06:53] <philor> yep
# [06:53] <philor> winxp even
# [06:53] <@bz> right
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# [06:54] <catlee-away> our trained monkeys are equally fast on xp as on other platforms
# [06:55] <philor> this would have been about the 30th run of it, so if we do and it's testing that, it isn't testing well
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# [06:57] <@bz> well
# [06:58] <@bz> this test sets a 20ms timeout
# [06:58] <@bz> and then asserts that when the timeout has fired performance.now() returns a bigger value than it did when the timeout was set
# [06:58] <@bz> and _that_ assertion is failing
# [06:58] <@bz> which I can only see happening if:
# [06:58] <@bz> 1) The timeout fired way early (can happen)
# [06:58] <@bz> 2) We only have performance.now() accurate to 1ms on that setup
# [06:58] <@bz> because otherwise it should have increased in spite of #1
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# [07:00] <catlee-away> so...
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# [07:01] <catlee-away> this reminds me of another problem we hit a few years ago
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# [07:01] <catlee-away> where we had different timer resolultions
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# [07:01] <catlee-away> so it looked like time was going backwards
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# [07:02] <catlee-away> but instead the time was being calculated in two different ways, and the floating point precision was different
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# [07:05] <@khuey> SFO
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# [07:21] <@dolske> khuey: 4chan wants to know which gate
# [07:22] <@khuey> dolske: 46
# [07:22] <@dolske> thanks
# [07:22] <@khuey> lol
# [07:22] <@khuey> I hope anonymous doesn't attack my plane
# [07:23] <KWierso> "Air your personal Firefox grievances to a Firefox developer in SFO gate 46!"
# [07:23] <KWierso> guaranteed solutions!
# [07:23] <@khuey> heh
# [07:24] <@khuey> I had a nice chat with the guy giving me the TSA grope about Firefox
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# [07:33] <darktrojan> if only it didn't take so damn long :(
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# [07:35] <nigelb> ok, what's current nightly? 15?
# [07:35] <darktrojan> da
# [07:35] <nigelb> This is confusing. A website is broken on Fx11. Do I fix or not fix :|
# [07:36] <darktrojan> probably
# [07:36] <KWierso> is it broken on 10?
# [07:36] <darktrojan> we know how many of our users don't update
# [07:36] <nigelb> I'm downloading 12. I don't have anything older than Aurora :/
# [07:37] * darktrojan doesn't have anything older than nightly
# [07:37] <darktrojan> except chrome
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# [07:40] <darktrojan> \o/ leak found
# [07:40] <darktrojan> I am an idiot
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# [07:44] <darktrojan> to get nsCOMPtr<nsIFile> from nsIFile*, I have to use do_QueryInterface, correct?
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# [08:00] <@bz> darktrojan: no
# [08:01] <@bz> darktrojan: you just assign
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# [08:40] <kanha> Hi
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# [08:40] <kanha> I want some work
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# [08:49] <@bz> kanha: ok. What can you do? ;)
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# [08:51] <Mavericks> kanha: anything specific ?
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# [09:06] <kanha> just give me something
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# [09:07] <@bz> kanha: looks for one of the bugs in bugzilla annotated [mentor= ?
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# [09:08] <kanha> anyspecific bug?
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# [09:09] <kanha> test writing or something like that
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# [09:12] <kanha> or some code writing
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# [12:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f377102841b - ffxbld - Automated blocklist update from host moz2-linux-slave44
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# [12:33] * darktrojan wonders who'd like a 600kB review
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# [12:36] <@roc> of what?
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# [12:37] <darktrojan> I uh, banished nsILocalFile from the tree
# [12:38] <Callek> darktrojan: ugh huh?
# [12:38] <Callek> darktrojan: whats the replacement?
# [12:38] <Callek> and what bug#
# [12:39] <Callek> darktrojan: also I'd HIGHLY suggest a .platform post before it lands ;-)
# [12:39] * darktrojan laughs
# [12:39] <darktrojan> reeeeally
# [12:39] <Callek> and a plan to help avoid bitrot like the bool changes ;-)
# [12:39] <darktrojan> this ain't going to land any time soon
# [12:39] <darktrojan> I'll have to do the same to c-c first
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# [12:41] <darktrojan> oh and that's without the changes to js
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# [12:42] <darktrojan> why do I do these things?
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# [12:46] <darktrojan> fwiw Callek, the replacement is nsIFile (it already is, just removing the references to nsILocalFile)
# [12:46] <Callek> darktrojan: can you CC me on the bug then (since didn't say it when I asked) ;-)
# [12:47] <darktrojan> I guess I'd better file it then
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# [12:49] <gaston> that'd deserve an insane wolf meme '600kb patch ? no bug #'
# [12:49] <darktrojan> heh
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# [12:49] <gaston> (but i think it was already done :)
# [12:50] <Callek> gaston: I nominate you to create it: |wonders who'd like a 600kB review...| |What, Bug #? guess I'd better file it|
# [12:51] <darktrojan> :D
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# [12:52] <darktrojan> there, it has an all important bug number
# [12:53] * darktrojan gives it the alias 'madness'
# [12:54] <darktrojan> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749930 for those playing along at home
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# [12:56] <nigelb> bugspam.Callek. Well played.
# [12:57] <Callek> nigelb: ?
# [12:57] <Callek> just a comment on my bugmail?
# [12:57] <nigelb> Callek: Heh, nice email ID :D
# [12:58] <Callek> yep, GMAIL claims that is |Using 763 MB of your 10240 MB |
# [12:58] <gaston> i wonder how many bugmail dupes gmail stores....
# [12:58] <darktrojan> ouch
# [12:58] <Callek> currently >10,000 unread gmail *conversations*
# [12:59] <gaston> or if they smartly deduplicates them :)
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# [13:18] <darktrojan> ooh I know
# [13:18] <darktrojan> firebot, review my patch
# [13:18] <firebot> darktrojan: Your patch looks good. r+sr+ui-r+a=mconnor
# [13:18] <darktrojan> thanks
# [13:18] <firebot> np
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# [13:21] <Callek> darktrojan: imo I'd post your FULL patch up soonish, as a "Heres my patch as is, still thinking about who to r? and how to break it up to be more manageable
# [13:22] <Callek> that way anyone can skim it for any major issues, or a mistake you make many places, etc.
# [13:22] <darktrojan> yeah
# [13:22] <darktrojan> skimming it myself atm
# [13:23] <darktrojan> keep finding bits where sed has left nonsensical rubbish
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# [13:24] <darktrojan> thinking of starting an mq in my mq, have we got a 'yo dawg' meme for that?
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# [14:04] <obni> hello! something changed in latest aurora relative to what I think is WM_CLASS; do you have any pointers to what I should search for in a search engine? my goal is have separate application icons depending on the profile, i.e., two firefox with two different profiles have two different icons. it was working in aurora-1, now it is not.
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# [14:06] <Callek> darktrojan: not *sure* if its necessary, but I suspect it is, IID changes on the nsILocalFile* interfaces when doing s/nsILocalFile/nsIFile/ on the inputs
# [14:06] <darktrojan> yeah, probably
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# [14:11] <obni> also, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_14_for_developers is not working, «Site settings could not be loaded»
# [14:11] <darktrojan> obni, there was a downtime scheduled for mdn, not sure when though
# [14:12] <Callek> darktrojan: also, as an FYI there is MUCH more to do in the patchset
# [14:12] <Callek> darktrojan: not to make you go googly eyed o_O http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=nsILocalFile&;find=\.js
# [14:13] <darktrojan> I'm ignoring the js, for now
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# [14:13] <darktrojan> it's hard enough getting the c++ working without breaking stuff
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# [14:14] <Callek> darktrojan: the *problem* with ignoring the JS, is that if you pass the wrong interface through the JS boundary, some stuff *can* blow up
# [14:14] <Callek> and if you drop nsILocalFile itself, you *will* break any Ci.nsILocalFile
# [14:14] <darktrojan> yeah, nsIRelativeFilePref blew up, but that's all I've seen so far
# [14:15] <Callek> darktrojan: my point is, that there is still a lot of code with little/inadequate tests
# [14:15] <Callek> so if you change API you need to change all callers of that api, even js
# [14:15] <Callek> :-)
# [14:15] <darktrojan> indeed
# [14:15] <obni> ok, thanks, darktrojan . It seems the downtime was two days ago so this one seems to be a unscheduled one. I'll check it again in one or two days if I can.
# [14:16] <Callek> obni: actually I'd file an IT bug and CC |:sheppy|
# [14:17] <Callek> obni: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/form:itrequest
# [14:17] <Callek> obni: thank you for reporting it
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# [14:18] <Callek> obni: and of note: http://status.mozilla.com/11627/214048/developer.mozilla.org-%28https%29
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# [14:22] <darktrojan> there are some really odd coding styles in the tree
# [14:22] <darktrojan> this is one of the things I have learnt
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# [14:25] <obni> Callek, ok, thanks, filled #749934
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# [14:29] <zzzzz_> obni: this might be of interest http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
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# [14:30] <zzzzz_> obni: also http://jagriffin.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/profilemanager-1-0_beta1/
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# [14:31] <obni> zzzzz, thank you but I'm on Linux; I had a working setup on gnome-shell which involved changing the "Icon=" on the .desktop file. It stopped working now with latest Aurora.
# [14:31] <zzzzz_> ok
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# [14:32] <obni> zzzzz_, thank you anyway :)
# [14:32] <zzzzz_> np, wasn't aware , or missed the memo you were in Linux :P
# [14:34] <obni> I didn't mention it sorry :)
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# [14:42] <darktrojan> looks like we just lost MV
# [14:44] <decoder> + developer.mozilla.org is down
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# [14:44] <zzzzz_> someone mentioned they were moving data-centers - on the week-end ? seems a bit strange to do it on week-end
# [14:45] <darktrojan> best time for it, but they're a bit mad if they're up at 0530 to do it
# [14:45] <zzzzz_> haha
# [14:45] <zzzzz_> when I worked for telco, we did all out switch cut-overs starting at mid-night
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# [15:00] <Callek> obni: can you check MDN again?
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# [15:09] <obni> Callek, done, works, commented such in bug report. Thank you for your help!
# [15:09] <Callek> np
# [15:10] <Callek> thanks for reporting it
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# [15:33] <TheCrap> hi there. when deleting chromeappsstore.sqlite, the table webappsstore2 is empty after restore so search on about:home doesn't work anymore. is this wanted?
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# [15:37] <RyanVM> it would be cool if you filter tbpl on unstarred and pending builds
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# [15:50] <Standard8> RyanVM: you can do only unstarred
# [15:50] <Standard8> ah yeah
# [15:51] <Standard8> pending in that as well could be useful
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# [15:58] <RyanVM> yeah, I think it would be
# [15:58] <RyanVM> basically, if a build finishes OK, I don't care about it anymore
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# [16:17] <decoder> macosx-universal/nightly I guess?
# [16:17] <decoder> and what does that correspond to in try?
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# [16:23] <avih> hi, is there a tool to "fix" a rejected patch (reapplied queue after rebase) with hg/mq? i know mozilla-tools for windows include kdiff3, which supposedly should help, but what's the best procedure to do this?
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# [17:22] <cers> does anyone know if there is anyone working on improvements for the profile manager? Or who "owns" that component?
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# [17:25] <RyanVM> cers: profile manager is kind of dead man walking
# [17:25] <RyanVM> at some point it's slated for removal
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# [17:26] <cers> RyanVM: really? I mean I'm not surprised about the first part, but different profiles are pretty important to many aspects of web/addon development
# [17:27] <RyanVM> there's a dedicated profile manager app instead
# [17:27] <cers> RyanVM: is that under active development?
# [17:27] <RyanVM> i believe so
# [17:27] <RyanVM> give me a sec
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# [17:33] <cers> RyanVM: found this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager
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# [17:34] <RyanVM> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539524
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# [17:34] <RyanVM> and more to the point - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214675
# [17:34] <cers> yeah, that's linked to from the profile manager page I found - thanks
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# [17:36] <cers> I was about to work on a proposal I've been pondering for some time, which would do pretty much exactly what the new standalone profile manager does (or will do) - I wouldn't have made it solely standalone though
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# [17:37] <cers> I guess this saves me some time :-P
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# [17:38] <RyanVM> heh
# [17:39] <RyanVM> I haven't started using it yet (and probably won't until the in-tree version goes bye bye), but it does have some nice features
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# [17:39] <RyanVM> being able to run different versions for different profiles is really nice
# [17:39] <RyanVM> then my poor wife wouldn't be stuck beta testing firefox nightlies :P
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# [17:40] <cers> my main objections to the current one was that 1) no ordinary user can actually access it, 2) I can't manage the profile from it
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# [17:41] <cers> RyanVM: I guess ideally, you'd have different users on the computer
# [17:41] <RyanVM> that's not going to happen
# [17:42] <RyanVM> firefox is the only thing on the computer that we're interested in keeping separate
# [17:43] <cers> RyanVM: I guess you could always have just Nightly and Firefox installed, and edit the shortcut to launch the specific profiles
# [17:44] <RyanVM> I could but that still seems like overkill.
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# [17:44] <RyanVM> and frankly, m-c is quite stable for the most part
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# [17:45] <cers> indeed
# [17:45] <cers> I did have like one crash the other day (which btw didn't launch the crash reporter, nor created an entry in about:crashes) - but except from that, it's been a very long times ince my last crash
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# [18:04] <WG9s> Anyone have any idea why my windows builds suddenly fail with "SOURCE_REPO does not conatin a vaule"? seems to be in toolkit/xre
# [18:04] <WG9s> s/vaule/value/
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# [18:24] <WG9s> Oh I bet this is because i just remembered my sindows builds are kind of a kludge. perhaps I need to unkludge them
# [18:25] <WG9s> Because now that i am using bundles rather than doing a full clone, the kludge is probably no longer required.
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# [18:28] <RyanVM> ok
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# [19:36] <KWierso> whoa, updated to today's nightly on windows and my tab toolbar and nav bar are freaking out
# [19:36] <sheppy> KWierso: freaking out how?
# [19:37] <KWierso> the tab overflow scroll buttons are appearing and disappearing about three times per second
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# [19:38] <zzzzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749658
# [19:38] <philor> oh, are you on the cause-seizure update channel?
# [19:38] <zzzzz> KWierso: ^
# [19:38] <zzzzz> post to MZ pls ?
# [19:39] <KWierso> zzzzz: looks like it
# [19:39] <KWierso> seizure mode turned off when I opened that link, though
# [19:39] <sheppy> haha
# [19:39] <zzzzz> I filed that yesterday
# [19:40] <KWierso> started back up when I closed that tab
# [19:40] <zzzzz> def related to length of name in tab
# [19:40] <philor> ah, the new "tab overflow is required at all times" mode
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# [19:41] <zzzzz> someone want to triage m-i builds for the suspect bug jfkthame posted ?
# [19:41] <zzzzz> I won't get time till later today
# [19:42] <KWierso> I can't. gotta go buy a dishwasher
# [19:42] <zzzzz> hahaha, diswashers are cheaper than a wife
# [19:43] <zzzzz> unless you already one of those
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# [19:45] <zzzzz> worst she will do is hunt me down and shoot me :P
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# [21:08] <RyanVM> python: can't open file 'tools/buildfarm/maintenance/count_and_reboot.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
# [21:08] <philor> look further up
# [21:09] <philor> to the part where cloning build/tools timed out
# [21:09] <RyanVM> so yeah, more infra issues
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# [21:13] <NeilAway> now, this is where hg (and svn, git, etc...) sucks
# [21:14] <Optimizer> tab closing and openings are broken since todays nightly
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# [21:17] <Optimizer> when the tabs are not overflowing, but are not of their full width also, upon closing any tab, all other shift place and cover maximum size available. They do not remain of the same size until I keep my mouse on tabs stip
# [21:21] <Optimizer> and also when you open a new tab in a condition when tabs do not overflow but are also not of their full width, then each time a check happens which hides the new tab button, brings the < and > arrows on both side for around 150 ms
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# [21:45] <NeilAway> a watched libxul never links
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# [22:26] <NeilAway> ah, now that I've swapped everything else out, I can now link in 5 mintes. thanks, windows...
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# [23:40] <lduros> if a http header doesn't have a character encoding given, and there is no meta tag with a charset in the html, then utf-8 is used?
# [23:40] <lduros> or is it latin-1?
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