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# Session Start: Mon May 07 00:00:00 2012
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# [00:00] <@roc> sounds good
# [00:00] <@roc> where did you suggest it?
# [00:00] <@smaug> here :)
# [00:00] <@smaug> just a random comment
# [00:01] <@roc> should apply to tests too
# [00:01] <@roc> I'd make it apply to everything, and require a special token in the checkin comment to override
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# [00:02] <@smaug> yup
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# [00:40] <Bas> roc: It's tricky, there's some auto-generated files for example in gfx which have windows newlines.
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# [00:41] <@roc> true
# [00:41] <@roc> we could fix that in the generator script
# [00:41] <Bas> We could, I'm not too eager to do that though, although I wouldn't object strongly.
# [00:43] <@smaug> Bas: why does some generator create windows newlines?
# [00:43] <@smaug> or is it some windows only tool
# [00:43] <Bas> smaug: Because it's windows software? :P
# [00:43] <Bas> Right
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# [00:44] <Bas> It's pretty frustrating that the windows line-endings are 2 bytes, since it's technically the correct line-endings, I wish there had been a CrLf single character.
# [00:47] <Havvy> Is there any need in today's world to have both?
# [00:47] <Havvy> Other than Windows using both...
# [00:48] <Bas> Havvy: I don't think so, the only real reason is that we should fix the names if we don't :P Ever tried typing on a typewriter after -just- a carriage return or just a line feed? :P
# [00:48] <Bas> A line ending implies both a 'carriage return' and a 'line feed
# [00:49] <Bas> We should just rename it to 'Line Ending' or something like that :p
# [00:49] <Havvy> Bas: Sort of. For awhile, I was splitting on \n which made the code keep \c in it when using Windows-edited files.
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# [00:50] <Havvy> It was overwriting the buffer on the output, leading to the most confusing output that I couldn't figure out. Especially since it only happened occasionally.
# [00:50] <Bas> Hehe
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# [00:53] <jtcranmer> sheesh
# [00:53] <jtcranmer> basic parameter parsing, even excluding the #@$!@# that is RFC 2231
# [00:53] <jtcranmer> is 52 lines of JS
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# [00:53] <Havvy> jtcranmer: Email?
# [00:53] <jtcranmer> yeah
# [00:53] <jtcranmer> I'm partially rewriting libmime
# [00:53] <jtcranmer> in JS
# [00:54] <Havvy> I wish you luck.
# [00:54] <jtcranmer> the core of it is only 622 lines or so
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# [00:55] <jtcranmer> of course, this 622 lines allows me to get rid of a few hundred lines of code elsewhere by introducing unified MIME parsing
# [00:56] <Havvy> So a net win in terms of complexity?
# [00:56] <jtcranmer> nah, not quite
# [00:56] <jtcranmer> it does immediately get rid of three hellish hacks
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# [00:57] <jtcranmer> I'd write more tests, but I've found that "use this in other places" + existing tests actually works fairly well for ironing out bugs
# [00:57] <JonathanS> jcranmer, I hate those things
# [00:57] <Havvy> Hellish hacks = complexity, no?
# [00:57] <jtcranmer> this._splitRegex = new RegExp('(?:\r\n|[\r\n]|^)--' +
# [00:57] <jtcranmer> contentType['param-boundary'].replace(/[\\^$*+?.()|{}[\]]/g, '\\$&') +
# [00:57] <jtcranmer> '(--)?[ \t]*(?:\r\n|[\r\n])');
# [00:57] <jtcranmer> I'm not sure that's a net win for complexity
# [00:58] <Havvy> I'd declare that regex in a variable.
# [00:58] <JonathanS> new tab and line? :(
# [00:59] <jtcranmer> Havvy: note carefully that the regex is dynamically composed
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# [00:59] <Havvy> Hmm, oh...gross...
# [01:00] <jtcranmer> (I use a regex to compose a regex)
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# [01:00] <JonathanS> mind blown!
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# [01:01] <jtcranmer> on the plus side, it reduces parsing to "find this regex" in a lot of cases
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# [01:02] <JonathanS> jtcranmer, Im sure you caches the value too?
# [01:03] <jtcranmer> well, it's the same regexp object
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# [01:04] <dwendorf> Hi, everyone. I'm about to submit my second Bugzilla patch, and wanted to make sure I follow proper form. My patch for bug 702159 updates the bug's first patch. Should I submit my patch as a second patch that depends on the first (and requires both patches to be committed to mozilla-central), or should I include the changes from the first patch and obsolete it?
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# [01:05] <dwendorf> I am not the author of the first patch, so I don't want to "steal credit".
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# [01:07] <@smaug> dwendorf: both approaches are ok
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# [01:08] <dwendorf> Great. Thank you!
# [01:09] <@smaug> dwendorf: it is possibly easier for the reviewer if you add a patch which depends on the first one
# [01:10] <@smaug> but that depends on the changes you make
# [01:10] <@smaug> and also what kind of patch original patch is
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# [01:10] <dwendorf> My changes are only to the testcase's Javascript, and the original patch is a small amount of XUL and Javascript.
# [01:11] <dwendorf> 6 KB patch for only my changes versus 16 KB patch for everything
# [01:12] <@smaug> if you have both versions, you can attach them both
# [01:12] <@smaug> then reviewer can select which one to look at
# [01:13] <@smaug> jaws: ^
# [01:13] <dwendorf> Sounds good. I think I'll do that, then. Thank you!
# [01:16] <ohsix> hi, i'm not that familiar with the development process with mozilla, how soon can i expect this to be in a stable version? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650353
# [01:16] <ohsix> (of firefox)
# [01:18] <@smaug> ohsix: as the topic says, Fx15 will go to Aurora 2012-06-05
# [01:18] <@smaug> then 6 weeks in Aurora, and 6 weeks in Beta
# [01:18] <@smaug> so, should be 12 weeks from 2012-06-05
# [01:19] <ohsix> so it will be in 15 and just wait for that?
# [01:20] <@smaug> ohsix: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
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# [01:21] <@smaug> ohsix: yes, it will be in Fx15, unless it gets backed out
# [01:21] <philor> Callek: "elapsed: 10 hrs, 25 mins, 2 secs"
# [01:22] <ohsix> smaug: is there one firefox tree this comes from or what, what is mozilla-central?
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# [01:23] <@smaug> ohsix: the patch is now in mozilla-central. mozilla-central -> aurora uplift will happen 2012-06-05
# [01:23] <@smaug> and from aurora branch to beta 6 weeks from that
# [01:24] <ohsix> ok, thanks; bit less confused now :D
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# [01:25] <Callek> philor: yea :(
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# [01:25] <ohsix> i thought there was a tagged version that got fixes or something, but it's just copied out on 2012-06-05, then it lives there to get tests/patches, then beta, then release
# [01:28] <ohsix> behavior WRT the bug i filed that actually depended on that one ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680784 ) actually seemed to improve with ff12, but given the timing it couldn't have been that change :P
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# [01:55] <njn> 201 system principal compartments, oy vey
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# [01:57] <KWierso> njn: I have 230 "[System Principal]" components, and a good 30 more system principal ones coming from addons
# [01:58] <KWierso> so ha, or something
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# [02:04] <njn> KWierso: I wonder if not printing the address is now a good idea, so they are merged into a single entry
# [02:04] * philor wonders what the point of Serge having someone else push to aurora and beta for him is, when that person ignores the tree rules and fails to star either
# [02:04] <njn> KWierso: like is done in about:compartments
# [02:05] <njn> 30,496,912 B ── js-main-runtime-gc-heap-arena-unused
# [02:05] <njn> humph
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# [02:26] <Havvy> Evil use for spambots: Spam bugzilla.
# [02:26] <KWierso> Unfocused: ping?
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# [02:29] <RyanVM> njn: is that gcc warning pointing to something severe enough that the jsid patch shouldn't merge to m-c without your fix?
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# [02:33] <njn> RyanVM: no
# [02:33] <RyanVM> ok
# [02:33] <njn> RyanVM: oh wait
# [02:33] <KWierso> Unfocused: unping :)
# [02:34] <njn> RyanVM: it's probably ok, but it would be safer to include my patch
# [02:34] <RyanVM> ok, then I'll let someone else merge in the morning :)
# [02:34] <njn> k
# [02:34] <RyanVM> or I could just go back a few revs
# [02:35] <philor> edmorley's off tomorrow, dunno about the other two possibles
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# [02:39] <philor> 2ee4a5436340 looks like it still gives you enough to be worth merging
# [02:39] <RyanVM> philor: exactly what I did :)
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# [02:40] <njn> why are all these people landing patches on a Sunday?
# [02:40] <philor> because we were closed on Saturday
# [02:41] <njn> ah
# [02:41] <njn> my Monday is normally quiet
# [02:41] <philor> dunno about billm, did you kidnap him and force him to switch to your crazed timezone?
# [02:42] <njn> yes
# [02:42] <philor> excellent
# [02:42] <njn> he's in my basement
# [02:42] <njn> chained to my pet kangaroo
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# [02:48] <RyanVM> just keep him away from the dingoes
# [02:50] <philor> njn: you're burning
# [02:50] <njn> philor: dammit
# [02:51] <njn> looking
# [02:51] * njn is really sick of GCC 4.2 on mac
# [02:51] <njn> philor: oh great, it's that stupid STATIC_ASSERT bug where if I insert a line of whitespace it'll be fixed
# [02:52] <philor> oh, I love that one
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# [02:52] <RyanVM> some day, we'll just use clang for everything
# [02:53] <njn> hmm, maybe not that one
# [02:53] <njn> still, it's a GCC-4.2-sucks one
# [02:53] <RyanVM> and msvc apparently :P
# [02:55] <njn> huh
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# [02:55] <njn> are you ok if I do a follow-up, or do you want me to back out?
# [02:55] <njn> it's a small change, and I can test on mac
# [02:55] <philor> it's Sunday, and Ms2ger isn't here, just fix it
# [02:56] <njn> philor: is Ms2ger a stickler for the rules?
# [02:56] <philor> he's a voice of reason and good sense
# [02:56] <RyanVM> I'm always a fan of giving them one chance to fix it before backing them out
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# [03:30] <RyanVM> double scrollbars on tbpl = sux
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# [03:31] <philor> get a bigger monitor
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# [03:34] <philor> hmm, or different fonts or a different OS, I always thought I saw them at work on Windows with a smaller monitor because of the monitor, but apparently not
# [03:34] <Callek> RyanVM: better than tripple scrollbars on Tinderbox itself
# [03:34] <Callek> :-P
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# [03:37] <RyanVM> the reftest analyzer line pushes things down a bit
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# [03:41] <philor> probably because it thinks it can get away with the same size for either Lucida Grande or Verdana
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# [03:42] <darktrojan> needs more font-size-adjust?
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# [04:14] <KWierso> bz: I think they have a PDF Viewer component/product in Bugzilla
# [04:14] <KWierso> and they should still have an issues thing up on github
# [04:14] <@bz> aha
# [04:14] <@bz> under Firefox
# [04:14] <@bz> great
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# [06:31] <njn> who knows about how Firefox updates occur? I want to understand why I had to manually update Firefox on my parent's Mac from 8 to 11 a few weeks ago, and then from 11 to 12 yesterday. They tend to turn it on only for short periods of time (often less than 1 hour), I wonder if that's a factor
# [06:32] <darktrojan> is it set to 'don't check for updates'?
# [06:33] <romaxa_> glandium: ping
# [06:33] <njn> darktrojan: no, I did check that
# [06:34] <darktrojan> just checking :P
# [06:34] <njn> darktrojan: I also looked at all the "update" options in about:config, nothing looked strange; it was set to check every day
# [06:34] <njn> darktrojan: the Time Machine back-ups often weren't happening because the machine has to be for one hour before that happens; I wonder if something similar was happening with Firefox
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# [06:35] <njn> darktrojan: I told them to put it to sleep instead of shutting down, maybe that'll help.
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# [06:35] <KWierso> njn: isn't it on an idle timer? app.update.interval is set to 3600 seconds for me
# [06:35] <darktrojan> I was just going to say that
# [06:36] <njn> KWierso: ah, that's the kind of thing I was worried about
# [06:36] <darktrojan> app.update.idletime 60 kinda implies it would only wait for an idle minute before checking too
# [06:36] <njn> Firefox really has to be idle for an hour before it updates? I bet that almost never happens with my parents' uses
# [06:36] <njn> oh
# [06:36] <njn> 1 minute, hmm
# [06:36] <njn> they tend to just open it up, check email, and jump off again
# [06:36] <darktrojan> I guess that's seconds
# [06:37] <njn> though surely they'd be idle for 1 minute every so often
# [06:37] <darktrojan> to the MXR!
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# [06:37] <KWierso> When a software update for Firefox becomes available, a dialog box pops up allowing the user to download and install the update. However, this dialog may pop up unexpectedly, causing the user to accidentally accept or cancel the update. To solve this, Firefox now waits until the browser has been left idle for a set amount of time before displaying the dialog. This preference determines how...
# [06:37] <njn> my idletime setting is 3600
# [06:37] <KWierso> ...long the browser should be idle before opening the dialog.
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# [06:38] <njn> KWierso: that would explain it -- I bet they never leave Firefox idle for a whole hour
# [06:38] <njn> KWierso: I wonder how many other users are in the same boat
# [06:38] <KWierso> njn: there might also be some issue if they're running from a non-admin account?
# [06:38] <KWierso> (or at least on Windows that's the case)
# [06:38] <njn> KWierso: I don't think so... this is on mac, I could do the manual update without needing a password
# [06:39] <mbrubeck> I wonder how your idletime pref got set to 3600
# [06:40] <njn> mbrubeck: on my mac it's 86400!
# [06:40] <njn> mbrubeck: oh, wait, scratch that
# [06:40] <njn> on my mac it's 60
# [06:40] <mbrubeck> are you looking at services.sync.scheduler.idleInterval ?
# [06:40] <njn> on my linux box it's 3600
# [06:40] <mbrubeck> or app.update.idletime
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# [06:40] <njn> mbrubeck: app.update.idletime
# [06:40] <mbrubeck> idleInterval just controls how long before we show the nag dialog.
# [06:40] <mbrubeck> err
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# [06:41] <mbrubeck> no, sorry, that's app.update.promptWaitTime
# [06:41] <mbrubeck> I'm just confusing things further. :(
# [06:41] <KWierso> njn: by "manual", do you mean "going into Help - About Firefox", or "download the new version from the website myself and install it manually"?
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# [06:42] <njn> KWierso: "about firefox" -- as soon as I opened that it started auto-downloading the new version, both times
# [06:42] <larfdesk> when was it going to change from a version to just "current" or "not current" ?
# [06:43] <njn> larfdesk: that won't happen, it was just a misunderstanding
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# [06:43] <njn> KWierso: I can't find that text you quoted above
# [06:43] <njn> mbrubeck: oh, whoops
# [06:43] <njn> yeah, 60, sorry
# [06:44] <KWierso> njn: which text?
# [06:44] <njn> KWierso: "When a software update for Firefox becomes available..."
# [06:45] <KWierso> njn: from a mozillazine knowledge base entry
# [06:45] <njn> ah
# [06:45] <mbrubeck> philor: Another dust-on-monitor bug on Aurora...
# [06:45] <KWierso> http://kb.mozillazine.org/App.update.idletime
# [06:46] <philor> mbrubeck: yeah, I was just trying to find one that would show me what color the dust is
# [06:46] <philor> the crashtest is nice, too
# [06:46] <philor> out of memory / out of memory / out of memory / Not enough memory
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# [06:47] <KWierso> I think it's trying to tell you something
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# [06:47] <philor> if only it could remember what
# [06:47] <darktrojan> hmm
# [06:48] <darktrojan> clones
# [06:48] <njn> app.update.silent must be false for app.update.idletime to have an effect
# [06:49] <njn> I think I changed "Automatially install updates" to "Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them" on my parents' machine yesterday
# [06:49] <njn> just to see if that helped...
# [06:49] <KWierso> njn: you might also drop those various timers/intervals down to less than an hour, just to see if it is that they just don't leave it up long enough to start looking
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# [06:52] <njn> sorry, app.update.idletime
# [06:52] <njn> KWierso: anyway, stuff to investigate next time I'm there
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# [07:15] <glandium> romaxa_: no, but on the other hand, i only cross-compile for android
# [07:16] <romaxa_> glandium: after bug 751727 landing I got linking error on TimeStamp creatur, and noticed that monotonic is not detected TimeStamp_posix not compiled et.c.
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# [07:17] <glandium> romaxa_: there used to be a problem for android, because it's not in -lrt, but that's been solved
# [07:17] <romaxa_> glandium: config.log show only configure:12229: checking for clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC)... and immediately jump to if test "$ac_cv_clock_monotonic" != "no"; then
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# [07:18] <glandium> romaxa_: remove config.cache
# [07:20] <romaxa_> glandium: oh, sure http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1622474
# [07:20] <njn> has the invocation of chrome mochitests changed? I can get multiple ones to run fine, but single ones don't run...
# [07:20] <romaxa_> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1622475
# [07:21] <njn> e.g. |python runtests.py --chrome --autorun --test-path=toolkit/components/aboutmemory/tests/tests_aboutmemory.xul| isn't working
# [07:21] <glandium> romaxa_: looks like it's neither in libc nor librt on your system
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# [07:24] <fabrice> is anyone else seeing errors on inbound : |undefined reference to `mozilla::TimeStamp::Now()| (and other undefined references in mozilla::TimeStamp) ?
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# [07:28] <romaxa_> fabrice: just was discussing that problem
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# [07:29] <njn> why we we need so many globals for the system principal?
# [07:29] <romaxa_> fabrice: sounds like you also have monotonic clock_gettime detection failed, and there are no TimeStamp fallback anymore
# [07:29] <fabrice> romaxa_: ok... this is on desktop linux
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# [07:30] <romaxa_> fabrice: try revert 751727, or define monotonic by force
# [07:30] <philor> bug 752280 and the tail of bug 751727 suggest that there may be a fair number of people with a sys/time.h instead of a time.h
# [07:31] <fabrice> philor: I'm compiling on ubuntu 12.04
# [07:32] <philor> and there you go
# [07:32] <glandium> fabrice: are you building for desktop or mobile?
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# [07:32] <fabrice> glandium: for desktop
# [07:33] <glandium> philor: that shouldn't make much difference
# [07:33] <glandium> ah yes, it should
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# [07:34] <smontagu> AFAICT the problem on Ubuntu is not time.h sys/time.h
# [07:34] <glandium> romaxa_: do you actually have clock_gettime on your cross-compile environment?
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# [07:35] <smontagu> CLOCK_MONOTONIC is defined in bits/time.h which is #included by time.h
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# [07:39] <glandium> smontagu: the reason why it wasn't backed out is in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751727#c0 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751727#c6
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# [07:40] <smontagu> glandium: the "as long as this doesn't break any builds." in comment 1 seems like a reason it should be backed out
# [07:40] <glandium> smontagu: depends if any means any tinderbox or any any
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# [07:41] <romaxa_> glandium: yep, and it is available in librt
# [07:41] <smontagu> also, comment 0 says nspr TimeStamp is being used on ubuntu, and I don't see how the patch was expected to affect that
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# [07:42] <glandium> smontagu: comment 0 says that's a mistake
# [07:42] <glandium> that it does
# [07:42] <romaxa_> glandium: I added force ac_cv_clock_monotonic=" -lrt " and it works
# [07:42] <glandium> romaxa_: you'll have to find why the second compile works
# [07:42] <glandium> err doesn't work
# [07:43] <glandium> in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1622475
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# [07:44] <smontagu> glandium: I understand that it's a mistake. I don't see how the patch as it stands was supposed to correct the mistake
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# [07:44] <glandium> smontagu: by ensuring it's never used. at all
# [07:45] <smontagu> well that was certainly achieved, lol
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# [07:45] <njn> philor: I pushed before dbaron's tests went red, I promise
# [07:46] <philor> smontagu: just install an ancient version of centos, you'll be much "happier"
# [07:47] <philor> njn: the red is a lie, it's the purple of ftp.m.o not being terribly happy in its new home
# [07:47] <smontagu> given that ubuntu was using nspr TimeStamp, and the patch just removes it without substituting anything else or changing configure.in, why is anyone surpirsed that ubuntu builds started failing?
# [07:47] <smontagu> also given that it was the final catch-all option in xpcom/ds/Makefile.in
# [07:48] <romaxa_> glandium: yep, will try
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# [08:17] <gaston> why does in break ubuntu (ie how is it different from other sane linux) ?
# [08:17] <gaston> i've has a look and apparently only openbsd has clock_gettime in sys/time.h and it's "our" mistake
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# [08:25] <romaxa_> glandium: ping
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# [08:25] <glandium> romaxa_: pong
# [08:25] <romaxa_> glandium: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870586, -Wl,--no-as-needed - make it works
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# [08:27] <glandium> romaxa_: oh my
# [08:27] <glandium> romaxa_: that suggests a serious bug in the linker
# [08:27] <glandium> romaxa_: because it's throwing away libraries it *does* need
# [08:28] <romaxa_> glandium: so what I should do?
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# [08:28] <glandium> romaxa_: let me see if i can reproduce
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# [08:30] <romaxa_> glandium: I see it on oneiric 10.11
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# [08:33] <glandium> romaxa_: file a bug on binutils
# [08:33] <glandium> romaxa_: on ubuntu
# [08:33] <glandium> fwiw, gold doesn't have the problem
# [08:33] <glandium> actually, let me file this
# [08:34] <romaxa_> glandium: ok
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# [08:39] <glandium> romaxa_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/995787
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# [08:44] <glandium> romaxa_: try this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1622619
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# [08:48] <Yoric> Mark_Capella: ping
# [08:49] <Mark_Capella> yoric: poing
# [08:49] <Yoric> Hi
# [08:49] <Mark_Capella> hello!
# [08:49] <Yoric> I'm looking at your patch for 723530.
# [08:49] <Yoric> (essentially, because I am patching the same lines for other reasons)
# [08:49] <Yoric> I have the impression that your patch can break stuff.
# [08:49] <Yoric> I may be wrong, though.
# [08:49] <Mark_Capella> hmmm ... that looked pretty stright forward
# [08:50] <Mark_Capella> >reading<
# [08:50] <Mark_Capella> there were a couple double if NOT conditions I changed, but s/b ok
# [08:50] <Yoric> What happens when called with |CData.prototype.readString|?
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# [08:51] <Yoric> Mmmhhh..
# [08:51] <Yoric> No, you are probably right.
# [08:52] <Mark_Capella> not sure how we could have made something worse this way .... code s/b plug 'n play logically
# [08:53] <Yoric> I had a freeze in one of my tests that was caused by the interaction between your patch and mine.
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# [08:53] <Yoric> Yours removed error reporting in one case and mine was counting on that error reporting.
# [08:53] <Yoric> But you are right, your patch is probably good.
# [08:54] <Yoric> I will just have to rework mine slightly.
# [08:54] <Mark_Capella> cool ... always o to worry too much :)
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# [09:01] <AryehGregor> Is it worthwhile to link using gold on Linux instead of ld? Does this happen by default on common distros, and if not, how do I enable it?
# [09:06] <gcp> afaik its not default. wortwhile -> depends on how long your link takes
# [09:06] <gcp> Android with debugging info takes ages without gold
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# [09:21] <Mark_Capella> still... the point of my patch was to remove double reporting ... wonders how it skipped
# [09:21] <Mark_Capella> error reporting entirely in your case...
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# [09:32] <Yoric> Mark_Capella: This was the patch: https://bug748745.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=621510
# [09:32] <Yoric> Mark_Capella: CDataFinalizer::GetCData did not report errors.
# [09:33] <Yoric> So if JS_THIS_OBJECT succeeded but CDataFinalizer::GetCData failed, nobody was reporting the error.
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# [09:35] <Mark_Capella> well you're not using JS_THIS_OBJECT anymore ... so that kills the first error report, my patch bails before the assert
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# [09:35] <glazou> bonjour
# [09:35] <Mark_Capella> that kills the econd report
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# [09:37] <Mark_Capella> no thats not it
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# [09:45] <gcp> 2.4 didn't, 2.5 did
# [09:46] <glandium> so, that's interesting... if you don't put "from __future__ import with_statement", it says "Warning: 'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6", and then fails with a syntax error on the line with the "with"
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# [11:10] <_AtilA_> Buenos dias :)
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# [11:11] <glandium> that's interesting... running reftests from cmd.exe doesn't work, but the same command line from the msys shell works
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# [11:31] <romaxa_home> smaug: ping
# [11:32] <MarcosS> im learning to run the Browser Chrome Tests, but when I do "make -C $(OBJDIR) mochitest-browser-chrome", in cmd I get "bash'': OBJDIR: command not found" and "make: *** mochitest-plain: No such file or directory. Stop."
# [11:33] <jdm> MarcosS: you need to specify your actual objdir instead of $(OBJDIR)
# [11:33] <jdm> for example, mine is obj-x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0/
# [11:33] <MarcosS> oh ok
# [11:33] <jdm> also be warned that that command will run all of the browser-chrome tests
# [11:33] <jdm> and that will take a long time
# [11:34] <MarcosS> "TEST_PATH=browser/base/content/test/ make -C $(OBJDIR) mochitest-browser-chrome" seems like what i need then
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# [11:35] <@smaug> romaxa_home: pong
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# [11:37] <jviereck> can someone help me to save a page as PDF?
# [11:37] <jviereck> or give me a pointer where to look at?
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# [11:38] <jdm> jviereck: it's easy on mac; it's in the print dialog.
# [11:39] <jviereck> jdm: I need to do it "scriptable" for writing unit tests
# [11:39] <jdm> ah
# [11:39] <jdm> the mobile folks might know
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# [11:40] <romaxa_home> smaug: I have this test http://hg.mozilla.org/users/romaxa_gmail.com/js_global_api_example/file/98e5d3e2d67d/test/api.test.html
# [11:40] <jviereck> I'm looking at that code already, but it doesn't work. The browser takes some time before saying it's done saving, but I can't find an output file
# [11:40] <romaxa_home> smaug: and global js object extension
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# [11:41] <Archaeopteryx> jviereck: have you tried the code from pavlov's Print PDF extension?
# [11:41] <jviereck> Archaeopteryx: nope, I take a look at it. thanks!
# [11:41] <romaxa_home> smaug: as soon I call global js object extension ctor http://hg.mozilla.org/users/romaxa_gmail.com/js_global_api_example/file/98e5d3e2d67d/src/ProcInfoJS.js, any method, after that I cannot fire any custom event to domWindow
# [11:42] <Archaeopteryx> jviereck: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/printpdf/
# [11:43] <romaxa_home> smaug: do you know what could be the problem?
# [11:45] <@smaug> romaxa_home: document.write creates a new window object
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# [11:45] <@smaug> romaxa_home: window.addEventListener adds listener to the original window object
# [11:45] <@smaug> document.write() (happening after page parsing) creates a new window object
# [11:46] <@smaug> so, you don't have any listener for the event
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# [11:47] <romaxa_home> smaug: oh
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# [11:48] <romaxa_home> smaug: ok, got it thanks
# [11:48] <@smaug> romaxa_home: I assume changing the document.write call fixes the problem
# [11:49] <@smaug> so something like document.body.innerHTML = "moz Proc CPP Navigator /proc/uptime:" + navigator.mozProcInfoCPP.getProcInfo("/proc/uptime") + "<br><br>\n"
# [11:50] <@smaug> also document.write in the event listener need to be changed
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# [11:51] <romaxa_home> smaug: yep, I see
# [11:55] <@smaug> (document.write is a horrible API)
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# [13:09] <zzzzz> surkov: you have red on linux M5 on m-c and a few others
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# [13:10] <darktrojan> by m-c you mean m-i
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# [13:10] <zzzzz> yes, not awake
# [13:10] <zzzzz> :(
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# [13:11] <darktrojan> I can see that, your nick says so
# [13:11] <surkov> zzzzz: they are like: Connecting to ftp.mozilla.org|63.245.215.46|:80... connected.
# [13:11] <surkov> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
# [13:11] <surkov> 2012-05-07 02:32:46 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
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# [13:11] <surkov> it doesn't look like my patch is guilty
# [13:11] <jfkthame> i think philor filed a bug about that
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# [13:11] <zzzzz> oh.. that again ..
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# [13:11] <jfkthame> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752330
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# [13:44] <darktrojan> and Honza's burning inbound
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# [13:48] <darktrojan> not the one in here, clearly
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# [13:50] <NeilAway> darktrojan: do you mean mayhemer?
# [13:50] <darktrojan> do I?
# [13:50] <darktrojan> I do
# [13:51] <darktrojan> backed it out
# [13:52] <jfkthame> good man … tell him to go stand in a corner and take tryserver with him :)
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# [13:55] <darktrojan> my inbound was only 2300 changesets behind
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# [14:14] <darktrojan> ok, looks like something is broken
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# [14:14] <darktrojan> burn ALL the things
# [14:15] <Callek> darktrojan: "something broken"?
# [14:15] * darktrojan goes looking for a sheriff
# [14:15] <Callek> what something
# [14:15] <darktrojan> m-i
# [14:15] <Callek> backouts?
# [14:15] <darktrojan> bad responses from ftp.mo
# [14:16] <Callek> darktrojan: oooo retrigger
# [14:16] <darktrojan> lots of them
# [14:16] <Callek> and poke ashish
# [14:16] <Callek> darktrojan: Bug 752330
# [14:17] <darktrojan> ta
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# [14:21] <darktrojan> ashish, ^
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# [14:22] <darktrojan> I'm guessing since he's active atm he's on it
# [14:22] <ashish> darktrojan: thanks, yes i am
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# [14:23] <darktrojan> I won't retrigger the m-i stuff, we know it's green from before the backout
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# [14:24] <glob> darktrojan, bug 743090
# [14:24] <darktrojan> a [rap] button would be cooler
# [14:25] <glob> darktrojan, no, no it wouldn't
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# [14:25] <darktrojan> but I want my comments read out by a rapper
# [14:25] <Callek> where is said wrap button?
# [14:26] <darktrojan> on comments where there's a quote
# [14:26] <glob> Callek, it isn't on every comment, try bug 742438 comment 0
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# [14:27] <Callek> glob: ooo so on *pre* existing long-quoted comments
# [14:27] <glob> Callek, well, for all long-quoted comments
# [14:27] <glob> Callek, bugzilla doesn't wrap any line which starts with >
# [14:27] <Callek> glob: I tried hittinng reply on 743090's c#0 and got a wrapped-quoted section, so I didn't see any magic button ;-)
# [14:27] <jfkthame> though it's not quite clever enough to *only* appear if the quoted comments are long enough to actually benefit from wrapping
# [14:27] <glob> Callek, ahh
# [14:28] <glob> Callek, k
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# [14:32] <jviereck> does anyone has an idea why gfxSurface::createSimilarSurface(printSurface) doesn't create a vector like surface on linux?
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# [14:33] <evilpie> jesup: did you see Bug 752226?
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# [14:37] <@smaug> glandium: ping
# [14:38] <glandium> smaug: pong
# [14:38] <glandium> smaug: don't tell me you crash in nss
# [14:38] <@smaug> glandium: what was the bug about ssl and makefile
# [14:38] <@smaug> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744722
# [14:38] <@smaug> I get that now very often
# [14:38] <@smaug> glandium: so, just wondering if you landed the patch and whether it is causing the problems
# [14:39] <glandium> smaug: I landed it again
# [14:40] <glandium> smaug: bug 736066
# [14:40] <@smaug> I'll try backing it out locally
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# [14:40] <@smaug> my browser isn't really useable atm
# [14:40] <glandium> smaug: but it wasn't landed on the date the bug was filed
# [14:40] <@smaug> ah, hmm
# [14:41] <glandium> first landed on 3/31, then it was backed out on the same day, and relanded on 4/31
# [14:41] <glandium> 4/30
# [14:42] <glandium> 4/29 on inbound
# [14:42] <@smaug> right
# [14:42] <@smaug> glandium: ok, nm
# [14:42] <@smaug> looks like the crash is different
# [14:42] <@smaug> but still somewhere in ssl code
# [14:43] <@smaug> kaie: Bug 744722
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# [14:48] <darktrojan> "wtf, Chrome? 1 tab should not be using 1.5GB of rams..."
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# [14:51] <@smaug> what is wrong with windows boxes
# [14:51] <@smaug> aurora and beta are burning quite well
# [14:51] <darktrojan> windows
# [14:51] <@smaug> well, what else :)
# [14:52] <darktrojan> windows users
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# [14:52] <jfkthame> smaug: that's probably more of bug 752330
# [14:52] <darktrojan> smaug, ftp.m.o seems to be having a bad day
# [14:52] <@smaug> ah
# [14:52] <@smaug> ok, thanks
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# [15:02] <Callek> smaug: yea, IT is on it
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# [15:02] <Callek> (the real cause is unknown as of last I heard, but there should be a relatively simple short-term solution to our woes here
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# [15:19] <@smaug> kaie: has there been any ssl changes recently
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# [15:19] <@smaug> in the last 5 days or so
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# [15:25] <glob> back
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# [15:26] <evilpie> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ed23e42a2e8f ftp server issue ?
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# [15:29] <mayhemer__> what is happening with the test boxes for aurora, beta and esr? most of them are becoming red but summary is empty and builds pass ok
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# [15:29] <zzzzz> mayhemer__: maybe https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752330
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# [15:30] <zzzzz> evilpie: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752330
# [15:30] <evilpie> thanks
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# [15:31] <mayhemer__> zzzzz: thanks too
# [15:31] <zzzzz> yw
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# [15:34] * zzzzz wonders if the trees should be closed until 752330 is fixed ?
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# [16:01] <decoder> anyone here who is familar with stuff around nsPrefBranch::RemoveObserver / ~nsScriptSecurityManager
# [16:01] <decoder> ?
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# [16:19] <@smaug> anyone else using 64bit linux and having major problems with m-c
# [16:19] <@smaug> crashing all the time in ssl code
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# [16:34] <jesup> Hmmm. I'll rebuild off head
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# [16:49] <ttaubert> smaug: no problems here
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# [16:51] <gcp> smaug: about SSL: I'm getting reports Nordea is unusable with firefox again :P
# [16:51] <@smaug> ttaubert: FYI, I'm getting https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744722 pretty often
# [16:51] <@smaug> gcp: I just used Nordea Solo today
# [16:51] <@smaug> using up-to-date m-c
# [16:51] <gcp> http://www.nordea.fi/Henkil%C3%B6asiakkaat/Verkkopankkiin/816202.html
# [16:51] <gcp> first link will give connection reset
# [16:52] <@smaug> oh, that is something new
# [16:52] <@smaug> the error happens only once
# [16:52] <@smaug> gcp: is there a bug open?
# [16:52] <gcp> It's due to BEAST mitigation.
# [16:52] <evilpie> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3p5zyc/ no?
# [16:52] <gcp> bug got closed after they seemingly updated firmware, but the problem is back now
# [16:53] <gcp> bug 698222 and bug 698203
# [16:53] <@smaug> (Looks like this build from 2012-05-01 doesn't crash)
# [16:53] <@smaug> gcp: well, new bug should be created
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# [16:55] <gcp> should crosscheck against chrome
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# [16:56] <@smaug> gcp: no problem with chromium
# [16:56] <@smaug> although there is "[10737:10751:45545975230:ERROR:ssl_client_socket_nss.cc(1540)] handshake with server solo1.nordea.fi:443 failed; NSS error code -12286, net_error -113"
# [16:56] <@smaug> in the terminal
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# [17:00] <gcp> Chrome Canary works fine
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# [17:02] <smontagu> damnit, I checked in on closed inbound.
# [17:02] <smontagu> y u no make hook?
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# [17:03] <gcp> I reopened that bug.
# [17:04] <gcp> Supposedly everything with new NSS would break there. In reality, Chrome works, and we don't.
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# [17:10] <decoder> jlebar|mac: jlebar|travel: I assume you're not avail? :)
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# [17:24] <mcot> I'm getting a few curious crashes when I run a custom ff build against a few test websites
# [17:24] <mcot> http://pastebin.com/zhj4SVY1
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# [17:27] <NeilAway> (checkin comment on what was a security bug)
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# [17:28] <jlebar|mac> decoder: Send me an e-mail? I'm out and about atm.
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# [17:30] <zzzzz> that fact that m-c is closed to totally obscured by the sea of red build flags
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# [17:30] <zzzzz> err, dammit m-i
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# [17:53] <espindola> rail, can you put the clang dmg/rpms in your home dir?
# [17:53] <rail> espindola: sure
# [17:53] <espindola> thanks
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# [17:54] <decoder> if anyone can make sense of this trace, please let me know: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1623448
# [17:54] <decoder> especially note line 34.
# [17:55] <decoder> is it remotely possible that nsScriptSecurityManager::Release() is somehow triggered through nsPrefBranch::RemoveObserver ?
# [17:55] <mkaply> What's the page for tree status?
# [17:55] <rnewman> what the heck is up with tbpl/Aurora today?
# [17:55] <decoder> id like to know if the trace is complete non-sense or whats happening there
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# [17:57] <bhearsum|buildduty> folks, if you see any *new* issues with failure to download builds during a test job, please ping me immediately
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# [18:00] <NeilAway> smaug: bah, I said already
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# [18:02] <@smaug> NeilAway: oh, I should learn to scroll
# [18:02] <NeilAway> decoder: ooer
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# [18:03] <NeilAway> decoder: it's not safe for nsScriptSecurityManager to pass itself to RemoveObserver in its destructor...
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# [18:04] <NeilAway> decoder: very nasty, but only happens if your build is already sufficiently hosed that its Init fails
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# [18:07] <decoder> NeilAway: i built this from mozilla-central
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# [18:07] <decoder> NeilAway: id like to find out why it's going wrong. but im not really experienced with that code
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# [18:08] <NeilAway> decoder: yeah, well, you need to break on nsScriptSecurityManager::Init to find where it's failing, but even then, we shouldn't crash ;-)
# [18:08] <decoder> oh there was an assertion
# [18:08] <decoder> let me see
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# [18:08] <decoder> ###!!! ASSERTION: This is not supposed to fail!: 'Error', file /builds/slave/try-lnx64-dbg/build/js/xpconnect/src/nsXPConnect.cpp, line 995
# [18:08] <decoder> ###!!! ASSERTION: Failed to initialize nsScriptSecurityManager: 'NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)', file /builds/slave/try-lnx64-dbg/build/caps/src/nsScriptSecurityManager.cpp, line 3210
# [18:08] <decoder> NeilAway: something like this?
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# [18:09] <NeilAway> decoder: well, something's wrong, but I can't tell more without a debugger
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# [18:09] <NeilAway> decoder: but you still shouldn't crash ;-)
# [18:09] <decoder> well. i dont crash
# [18:10] <decoder> it's asan that says something is being used after freed
# [18:10] <decoder> maybe this would not crash without asan
# [18:10] <decoder> but just silently work
# [18:10] <decoder> NeilAway: the most interesting thing is, that i pulled this xpcshell from try and on try it worked (up to some test failures, but only very little)
# [18:11] <NeilAway> asan?
# [18:11] <decoder> address sanitizer
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# [18:12] <decoder> it detects errors like valgrind does, but it uses a compile-time instrumentation
# [18:12] <decoder> (+ intercepting malloc/free of course during runtime)
# [18:12] <Ms2ger> Hrm, why does that test pass?
# [18:12] <NeilAway> well, I'm not surprised, because the very first line of ~nsScriptSecurityManager should never have made it in to the tree!
# [18:13] <decoder> NeilAway: you mean it's broken as it is on the tree?
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# [18:13] <NeilAway> decoder: yeah, it should be a banned code pattern
# [18:14] <decoder> NeilAway: well thank you, that helps a lot. at least i know im not chasing ghosts here
# [18:14] <decoder> can we fix it?
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# [18:15] <NeilAway> decoder: well, I'm sure someone can fix it
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# [18:15] <decoder> NeilAway: could you open a bug report for this and explain what is wrong about it? then i can try to push a fix
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# [18:17] <NeilAway> decoder: well, I suppose
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# [18:17] <decoder> NeilAway: would be awesome :)
# [18:18] <dougt> /builds/mozilla-central/gfx/layers/ipc/CompositorParent.cpp:208: undefined reference to `mozilla::TimeStamp::Now()
# [18:18] <dougt> anyone seeing this locally?
# [18:19] <Ms2ger> You're on ubuntu?
# [18:19] <dougt> y
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# [18:19] <dougt> if you say, use centos... i will find you.
# [18:19] <Ms2ger> Then it's intentional
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Someone decided to remove the TimeStamp implementation ubuntu needs
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# [18:20] <jhammel> use BSD :P
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> jhammel, didn't gaston have the same issue? ;)
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> (Well, I believe he fixed it)
# [18:20] <dougt> there is a tb bug.
# [18:20] <jhammel> i just meant as a philosophic statement
# [18:20] <dougt> bug 752280
# [18:20] <jhammel> (FWIW, i don't use bsd)
# [18:20] <dougt> jhammel: i'd be surprised if it worked.
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# [18:21] <@smaug> looks like I'm doing mainly r- reviewing today.
# [18:21] <dougt> it's on inbound already
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# [18:21] <dougt> smaug: how much review time do you have?
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# [18:22] <Ms2ger> A half-time
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# [18:23] <@smaug> dougt: I could review few more small patches
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# [18:23] <NeilAway> decoder: might be a duplicate of 699529 actually
# [18:24] <@smaug> dougt: but be prepared for r-. It is the theme for today
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# [18:25] <zzzzz> now that 752330 has been fixed - are we just waiting for backlog to clear or could the tree be re-opened ?
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# [18:26] <dougt> smaug: you could start looking at 717103
# [18:26] <dougt> i do not think bent has started looking
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# [18:33] <@ehsan> jfkthame: ping
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# [18:36] <decoder> NeilAway: thx
# [18:36] <@ehsan> why is inbound still closed?
# [18:36] <decoder> ill add the other bug in there
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# [18:37] <jfkthame> ehsan: pong
# [18:37] <@ehsan> jfkthame: about bug 157681, how did you come up with that fix?
# [18:37] <@ehsan> I'm not sure I understand it
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# [18:38] <jfkthame> well, it's not really a fix, it was just an experiment
# [18:38] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [18:38] <jfkthame> i was trying to identify the circumstances where the failure happens
# [18:38] <jfkthame> but that patch is much too broad, as per dbaron's comment
# [18:39] <@ehsan> jfkthame: so this would only happen if the before and after heights are both auto?
# [18:39] <jfkthame> well, if they're not *both* auto then they won't be equal anyhow
# [18:40] <decoder> NeilAway: is there a quickfix i could do? like remove the first line in the destructor?
# [18:40] <@ehsan> jfkthame: but the thing which puzzles me is that my optimization should not even kick in if either the width or height is auto...
# [18:42] <@ehsan> cshields: ping
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# [18:44] <jfkthame> ehsan: sorry, i've been distracted from this for a few days now - i recall seeing auto involved in the tabstrip test where it seemed to be failing, but i'd have to look again to remind myself of details
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# [18:45] <@ehsan> jfkthame: ok, please let me know if you remember anything :)
# [18:45] <jfkthame> if i get some time i'll try to look again but this week is going to be pretty busy :(
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# [18:46] <jfkthame> i know i never really understood what was failing….
# [18:46] <jfkthame> was just trying to narrow down possible factors
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# [18:52] <mbrubeck> Sounds like we're clear to re-open trees
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# [18:55] <Ms2ger> philor, you're too kind.
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# [18:56] <mounir> Ms2ger: hey
# [18:57] <mounir> I was going to send an email to webapps to add DOMRequset to DOM Core
# [18:57] <mounir> as an editor, I wonder why you think about that
# [18:57] <Ms2ger> What's DOMRequest?
# [18:57] <philor> Ms2ger: so many people say that of me
# [18:57] <johnath> jorendorff: this is your debugger-in-scratchpad blog/vid prod
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# [18:58] <jorendorff> what
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# [18:58] <mounir> Ms2ger: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsIDOMDOMRequest.idl
# [18:58] <mounir> it's a generic object that can be used for async operations
# [18:58] <jorendorff> I am reshooting it in 10 minutes to post within the next hour
# [18:58] <Ms2ger> philor, (re: your claim that I am a voice of reason)
# [18:58] <mounir> Ms2ger: it allows to have only one pattern
# [18:58] <philor> ah, heh
# [18:58] <mounir> for async stuff
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# [18:59] <Ms2ger> mounir, it's got on* attributes, so probably no
# [18:59] <mounir> Ms2ger: ?
# [19:00] <mounir> why?
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# [19:00] <espindola> rail, thanks
# [19:00] <Ms2ger> Because that would mean taking a dependency on HTML, which we don't want
# [19:01] <rail> np
# [19:01] <mbrubeck> smontagu: orange on inbound (and it's open again now)...
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# [19:01] <Ms2ger> mounir, ^
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# [19:03] <mounir> Ms2ger: how is that a dep on HTML?
# [19:03] <mounir> sorry for the dumb question
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# [19:03] <khuey> Ms2ger: clearly we should just stick all of the specs into one giant shared spec
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# [19:03] <Ms2ger> Because on-attributes are defined in HTML
# [19:03] <espindola> is xpcshell-tests known to fail on 10.7?
# [19:03] <Ms2ger> khuey, when did you turn into Hixie?
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# [19:03] <espindola> just noticed we don't run it on try
# [19:03] <khuey> espindola: we run it, it's just hidden by default
# [19:03] <espindola> armenzg_lunch, do you know?
# [19:03] <khuey> iirc
# [19:03] <mounir> Ms2ger: I don't think so
# [19:04] <khuey> Ms2ger: maybe I've always been Hixie
# [19:04] <Ms2ger> mounir, yes they are
# [19:04] <mounir> Battery Information API doesn't depend on HTML AFAIK
# [19:04] <espindola> khuey, ah, is there a way to see it?
# [19:04] <khuey> espindola: &noignore=1
# [19:04] <mounir> sorry Battery Status
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# [19:04] <Ms2ger> mounir, I default to assuming DAP specs are wrong
# [19:04] <mounir> oh it does
# [19:04] <mounir> it does for the "simple event"
# [19:05] <khuey> is jdm a peer of anything?
# [19:05] <Ms2ger> We can make that happen
# [19:05] <NeilAway> decoder: I don't know, that line may be supposed to be somewhere else instead
# [19:05] <khuey> we;; O
# [19:05] <khuey> *well I'm mostly interested for vouching purposes
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# [19:06] <Ms2ger> I don't think he'd vouch for you
# [19:06] <mounir> Ms2ger: if we don't use the concept of "simple event" but simply of event, how is that going to depend on HTML?
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# [19:06] <khuey> Ms2ger: :-P
# [19:07] <khuey> Ms2ger: oh, he is
# [19:07] <khuey> apparently there's a geolocation module
# [19:07] <espindola> ok, rebooting to 10.6 :-(
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# [19:07] <Ms2ger> mounir, http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/webappapis.html#event-handler-idl-attributes ...
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# [19:08] <mounir> arf
# [19:08] <mounir> and any idea of a spec that could own this?
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# [19:08] <dougt> khuey: there is a mozilla oprah that handles out modules to all audience members.
# [19:09] <Ms2ger> mounir, HTML
# [19:09] <mounir> Ms2ger: I doubt that would be a good idea
# [19:09] <khuey> dougt: nice
# [19:09] <khuey> dougt: btw, are you in MV tomorrow?
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> mounir, then write a spec for event handler attributes :)
# [19:10] <mounir> I guess asking to move the definition of "event handler idl attributes" to dom core would be stuped
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> There's a bug
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# [19:10] <mounir> oh
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> It's non-trivial
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# [19:10] <mounir> number?
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# [19:11] <Ms2ger> Don't have it on hand, look in the list linked from the spec?
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# [19:13] <Waldo> khuey: if jdm owns memes, is he also necessarily a peer as well?
# [19:14] <khuey> heh
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# [19:14] <khuey> mozillamemes is not a module stored in a repo requiring L3 access
# [19:14] <khuey> so it doesn't count
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# [19:14] <dougt> khuey: maybe. i might be in SF
# [19:15] <dougt> i am thinking about wfh and driving up to sf more often.
# [19:15] <dougt> most of my peeps are up in SF anyway.
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# [19:16] <khuey> dougt: well everyone is at the b2g work week this week
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# [19:16] <dougt> did you go?
# [19:16] <khuey> no
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# [19:17] <khuey> I don't work on b2g
# [19:17] <dougt> khuey: ha.
# [19:17] <dougt> everyone does.
# [19:17] <sheppy> :)
# [19:17] <khuey> nope
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# [19:17] <khuey> I'm still not on the mobile team ;-)
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# [19:17] <sheppy> We are developers of b2g. You will be assimilated.
# [19:17] <dougt> i think the first step is denial.
# [19:17] <khuey> anyways, I will be in MV tomorrow
# [19:17] <dougt> cool
# [19:17] <khuey> if you are there I will bring the box of cookies I owe you
# [19:17] <dougt> :)
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# [19:23] <Waldo> khuey: no, it's in a third-party-hosted repo; we should start a thread about this issue in m.d.planning, I think
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# [19:24] <Ms2ger> Waldo, don't forget to cc m.governance
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# [19:28] <khuey> ehsan: did we decide that 751638 was something else?
# [19:29] <@ehsan> khuey: "something else"?
# [19:29] <@ehsan> not sure what you mean
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# [19:30] <khuey> ehsan: wasn't there something weird where cat wasn't working?
# [19:30] <@ehsan> khuey: yes, that is the bug
# [19:30] <@ehsan> khuey: pymake tries to run cat from /usr/bin
# [19:31] <@ehsan> which is going to fail on windows
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# [19:33] <vlad> *** No rule to make target `../../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py
# [19:33] <vlad> hrm
# [19:33] <vlad> does this ring a bell?
# [19:33] <vlad> latest m-c, win32
# [19:33] <Ms2ger> Really old tree
# [19:33] <@bz> vlad: rm xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.pyc
# [19:33] <vlad> but..
# [19:33] <vlad> oh, .hgignore
# [19:33] <@bz> vlad: and curse python a bit for dropping turds in the srcdir. :(
# [19:34] <@bz> yeah, hgignore
# [19:34] <vlad> there it goes; thanks!
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# [19:35] <@bz> You know what would be nice?
# [19:35] <@bz> if hg out showed changeset urls sanely. :(
# [19:35] * @bz should really figure out how to make it do that
# [19:35] <@ehsan> bz: use --template?
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# [19:36] <Ms2ger> bz, I saw something about a push hook flying by
# [19:36] <@bz> ehsan: I'm using --templae
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# [19:37] <@bz> ehsan: the problem is that it's not flexible enough to do what needs to be done here
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# [19:37] <@bz> ehsan: since the url depends on the repo being pushed to!
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# [19:37] <reuben> wow. people still use the netscape.public.mozilla newsgroups…
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# [19:39] <espindola> do we know how many of the OS X users are on 10.7?
# [19:39] <@bz> some of us should
# [19:39] <@bz> asa may know where to get that data
# [19:39] <squib> reuben: i'd make a joke about people still using newsgroups in general, but i use newsgroups too...
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# [19:40] <espindola> I worry that some of the test failures we get on try on 10.7 are real bugs...
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# [19:43] <NeilAway> squib: what's wrong with newsgroups?
# [19:44] <squib> NeilAway: depends on the newsgroup, but i find that many of them are increasingly populated by curmudgeons
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# [19:45] <jlebar> smaug: ping in the right channel?
# [19:45] <@smaug> jlebar: ping
# [19:45] <@smaug> jlebar: this is better
# [19:46] <jlebar> yes.
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# [19:46] <jlebar> smaug: As usual, network connectivity is a total snafu at the work week.
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# [19:46] <@smaug> which work week you have now?
# [19:46] <jlebar> smaug: b2g
# [19:46] <@smaug> ah
# [19:46] <jlebar> smaug: There are 80 of us in San Diego.
# [19:46] <@smaug> oh
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# [19:47] <jlebar> smaug: So, the issue is what happens if we load this frame script twice?
# [19:47] <@smaug> jlebar: that would be a bug
# [19:47] <@smaug> but I mean the case if someone loads another script
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# [19:47] <@smaug> which uses same property names
# [19:47] <@smaug> jlebar: all the script use the same global scope
# [19:48] <@smaug> there is a patch to fix that, but it causes some problems, IIRC
# [19:48] <@smaug> felipe probably remembers what problems
# [19:48] <jlebar> smaug: But they're property names on BrowserElementChild.
# [19:49] <jlebar> smaug: Like, BrowserElementChild.prototype = { _webProgress = null }
# [19:49] <jlebar> er, _webProgress: null
# [19:49] <@smaug> ah, right
# [19:49] <@smaug> ok, then there shouldn't be any problem
# [19:50] <jlebar> okay, yay.
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# [19:50] <@smaug> (I'm getting a bit lost with all the changes)
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# [19:50] <jlebar> Me too.
# [19:50] * jlebar wants to land. :)
# [19:50] <jlebar> I'll post some new patches soon.
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# [19:50] <dholbert> hmm -- after my |hg pull -u| today, I'm getting build errors with "undefined reference to mozilla::TimeStamp::[everything]"
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# [19:50] <@smaug> dougt: ^
# [19:51] <@smaug> dholbert: Ubuntu ?
# [19:51] <dholbert> and "libxul.so: hidden symbol `mozilla::TimeStamp::Startup()' isn't defined"
# [19:51] <dholbert> smaug, yes
# [19:51] <dougt> smaug: yeah
# [19:51] <Ms2ger> dholbert, yeah, expected
# [19:51] <dougt> fixed on inbound
# [19:51] <Ms2ger> Broken intentionally
# [19:51] <dholbert> Ms2ger, :)
# [19:51] <dholbert> dougt, ok, thanks
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# [19:59] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: will you have time to land bug 743499 today? would like that to get into the beta3 go-to-build
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# [20:01] <rillian> do we have a download page for nightly?
# [20:01] <lsblakk> like http://nightly.mozilla.org/
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# [20:02] <rillian> nightly.mozilla.org, apparently
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# [20:03] <@ehsan> armenzg: ping
# [20:03] <armenzg> ehsan: pong
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# [20:05] <@ehsan> armenzg: is it possible to launch tests on a machine which I have access to?
# [20:05] <@ehsan> armenzg: from buildbot, that is?
# [20:05] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: sure I can do that in a couple of minutes
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# [20:05] <lsblakk> thanks jrmuizel
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# [20:06] <armenzg> ehsan: if we start buildbot from it
# [20:06] <armenzg> what are you trying to do?
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# [20:06] <@ehsan> armenzg: I have a bug which I'm unable to reproduce either locally or on the test machine
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# [20:06] <@ehsan> I want to trigger the tests from buildbot
# [20:07] <philor> bjacob: looks like you're busted on Windows
# [20:07] <@ehsan> to make the execution environment more similar
# [20:07] <armenzg> ehsan: can I have a look?
# [20:07] <@ehsan> sure
# [20:07] <armenzg> what is the bug #?
# [20:07] <bjacob> philor: looking
# [20:07] <@ehsan> it's talos-r3-w7-003
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# [20:07] <@ehsan> armenzg: oh, the bug # is 307181 but there's a lot of stuff there
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# [20:07] <@ehsan> armenzg: what I need to do is to trigger xpcshell tests from the latest oak branch build on this machine
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# [20:08] <smontagu> memo to self: always build and run tests before checkin, never mind how many times it's been through tryserver
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# [20:09] <armenzg> ehsan: what is the machine name?
# [20:09] <@ehsan> it's talos-r3-w7-003
# [20:09] <@ehsan> armenzg: ^
# [20:09] <bjacob> philor: i am. msvc stupidity. giving mysef a couple minutes before i backout
# [20:09] <armenzg> ehsan: I will grab it and trigger stuff there
# [20:10] <@ehsan> armenzg: ok thanks
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# [20:11] <bjacob> philor: ok, i back out
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# [20:11] <philor> ted: is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=11536968&tree=Mozilla-Inbound some race we already know about, or some race that I have to file despite not understanding it?
# [20:12] <philor> hmm, or since we got two in two pushes, some freshly added race?
# [20:12] <espindola> bsmith, ping
# [20:12] <bsmith> espindola: pong
# [20:13] <espindola> bsmith, bug 751899
# [20:13] <espindola> at least for the fix moving the nss shutdown earlier
# [20:13] <espindola> we can that bug a bug in how firefox uses nss
# [20:13] <espindola> and not an nss bug, right?
# [20:14] <@ted> philor: looks like a race i'm not familiar with
# [20:14] <bsmith> Probably both and there are Gecko-specific solutions, I bet
# [20:14] <@ted> in typelib.py
# [20:14] <taras> bsmith: can we take a gecko-specific solution?
# [20:14] <bsmith> That is what I would do
# [20:14] <taras> it's one of the last remaining writes on shutdown
# [20:15] <espindola> bsmith, cool, we can skip the nss call then, right?
# [20:15] <bsmith> kaie is the module owner
# [20:15] <espindola> it is the last one I was able to debug so far
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# [20:15] <bsmith> So, we should talk with kaie about it.
# [20:15] <espindola> bsmith, the nss owner, right?
# [20:15] <bsmith> rrelyea is the NSS owner
# [20:15] <espindola> the idea is to try to avoid changing nss at all
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# [20:16] <bsmith> What is the last notification we get before shutdown?
# [20:16] <bsmith> Is it the case that we always have a profile now?
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# [20:16] <bsmith> (in the _exit(0) case)
# [20:16] <khuey> xpcshell runs without a profile
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# [20:17] <taras> bsmith: https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown
# [20:17] <bsmith> I mean, once we have a profile, we never lose it anymore
# [20:17] <taras> profile-before-change
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# [20:17] <espindola> bsmith, it will be profile-before-change
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# [20:17] <bsmith> So, in that case, we do not need to call NSS_Shutdown at all, AFAICT.
# [20:18] <bsmith> So, it seems right to put NSS_Shotdown in the xpcom-shutdown observer.
# [20:18] <bsmith> The question is, why is it writing
# [20:18] <bsmith> There are two stages of a solution, probably: move the NSS_Shutdown to profile-before-change
# [20:18] <kaie> bsmith, espindola, I would like to make sure that we correctly shutdown NSS. I don't know if there are NSS caches that might be flushed to disk at NSS shutdown.
# [20:18] <kaie> relyea would know
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# [20:19] <bsmith> and, (2) for performance, figure out why NSS_shutdown writes, and try to stop it from doing that, so that we can move NSS_Shutdown back to xpcom-shutdown
# [20:19] <bsmith> because, after all, the goal of this project is to avoid unnecessary work at shutdown, and in thoery NSS_shutdown is uneecessary
# [20:19] <taras> sounds good
# [20:19] <bsmith> for example, Chromium does not call NSS_Shutdown in release builds
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# [20:20] <bsmith> taras: IMO, these issues are inter-related
# [20:20] <espindola> kaie, that is what write poisoning is there fore :-)
# [20:20] <espindola> or, will be there for
# [20:20] <gcp> bsmith: talking about chromium, bug 698203 is back :(
# [20:20] <bsmith> because, if we shut down NSS earlier, then we have to worry about components using NSS after NSS has been shut down
# [20:21] <bsmith> but, if we know that profile-before-change is the last event, then that is less of a concern.
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# [20:21] <espindola> it is the last event where one may write to disk
# [20:21] <bsmith> The problem is that other xpcom components can still access NSS during profile-before-change, right?
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# [20:22] <bsmith> in the new scheme, where are we required to join all threads?
# [20:22] <espindola> I don't know if that is defined/documented...
# [20:22] <espindola> bsmith, only on xpcom-shutdown-threds
# [20:22] <espindola> as today
# [20:22] <espindola> on a release build we _exit(0)
# [20:22] <espindola> earlier
# [20:22] <espindola> and let the os collect the threads
# [20:22] <bsmith> So, there will be background threads, in theory, that could be using NSS during profile-before-change
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# [20:23] <bsmith> PSM creates some itself, we have to make sure they are joined earlier
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# [20:23] <bsmith> if we call NSS_Shutdown earlier.
# [20:23] <espindola> ok, so those would have to be changed
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# [20:23] <bsmith> The problem isn't all of NSS, it is the certdb
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# [20:23] <espindola> or at least not access nss after profile-bofore-change
# [20:23] <bsmith> so, probably we can make a change to say that the certdb is only available until sometime before profile-before-change
# [20:23] <kaie> bsmith, espindola we may crash if anything tries to access any active NSS resource after nss shutdown. that's why we have this complicated NSS resource tracking in PSM.
# [20:24] <bsmith> and then shut down just the certdb earlier
# [20:24] <bsmith> because, at least in the long run, we want to avoid joining those background threads unnecessarily too
# [20:24] <bsmith> kaie: yes, we can notify the nsNSSShutdown objects earlier
# [20:24] <kaie> this was necessary when we had the need to shutdown nss (which requires cleanup of any old resources) and re-init nss with different settings/profile in the same session
# [20:24] <bsmith> but, I noticed that not everything implements nsNSSShutdownObject correctly.
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# [20:25] <kaie> it might have been that code developed in the previous years failed to care sufficiently
# [20:25] <dholbert> dougt, getting same build failure (on ubuntu) from m-i tip, about TimeStamp
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# [20:25] <dholbert> dougt, (tip as of ~25min ago, at https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99d00468a0dc )
# [20:25] <kaie> this means, our resource tracking at the psm level might be incomplete, but we still need to do it correctly (in order to prevent crashing)
# [20:25] <bsmith> IMO, it will be safer to just shot down the certdb, and leave NSS running al lthe way until _exit(0)
# [20:25] <dougt> dholbert: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0321d95b860d
# [20:25] <dougt> you'll want that
# [20:26] <dougt> if you don't have it already
# [20:26] <dougt> i had to clobber to get things going again..
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# [20:26] <kaie> I think it would be helpful to present your proposals in the nss conf call, so that relyea can give his thoughts
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# [20:26] <bsmith> The point is that taras and espindola are eager to fix it before Thursday
# [20:27] <bsmith> AFAICT
# [20:27] <dholbert> dougt, I have that cset -- didn't clobber after the m-i pull though. I'll give that a try
# [20:27] <espindola> bsmith, eager to fix it, no particular date in mind
# [20:27] <bsmith> kaie: for example, even nsRandomGenerator does not implement nsNSSShutdownObject
# [20:27] <espindola> if you think it would be easier to shutdown only the certdb, I can try that
# [20:28] <bsmith> in general, I do not think we can/should rely on the nsNSSShutdownObject to work correctly at that early stage
# [20:28] <bsmith> espindola: at what stage does web content stop running?
# [20:28] <bsmith> and at what point do extensions stop running?
# [20:28] <espindola> bsmith, not sure
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# [20:28] <espindola> I know we will exit(0) just after profile-before-change
# [20:29] <@smaug> !seen mccr8
# [20:29] <@killer> I don't know who mccr8 is.
# [20:29] <firebot> mccr8 was last seen 3 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying 'Mark_Capella: I'm glad, as your patches have enabled me to do some cycle collector cleanup work. :)' in #introduction.
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# [20:29] <espindola> but it might be before that, or it might just go away with exit(0) if it knows it will not write to disk
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# [20:29] <bsmith> espindola: the call is to flush() or write(), I forget?
# [20:29] <bsmith> If it is just flush() then it might not matter.
# [20:30] <armenzg> ehsan: I have to wait for the oak build to finish to trigger anything
# [20:30] <espindola> bsmith, write
# [20:30] <espindola> I am poisoning "only" write
# [20:30] <espindola> all 13 of them
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# [20:32] <bsmith> OK, that sucks
# [20:33] <espindola> ah, "good" news, nss is not the last one. Was able to reproduce the other crash in xpcshell-tests, and we have a write after that :-(
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# [20:34] <Ms2ger> ehsan-sucks is such a nice name for a patch
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# [20:39] <dholbert> dougt, yayyy, successful build. thanks!
# [20:39] <dholbert> (after clobber)
# [20:39] <dholbert> (and m-i pull)
# [20:40] <@ted> philor: oh!
# [20:40] <@ted> looking at the full log, that error is in JarMaker.py
# [20:40] <dougt> dholbert: woot
# [20:40] <@ted> I thought I wrung all the races out of that :-(
# [20:40] <dougt> dholbert: better than installing centos
# [20:40] <dholbert> dougt, haha. indeed
# [20:42] <@ted> philor: that pretty much just wants a try/catch here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/JarMaker.py#459
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# [21:04] <gcp> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/05/jury-rules-google-violated-copyright-law-google-moves-for-mistrial.ars
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# [21:07] <romaxa> bsmedberg: any chance to get 746800 API reviewd?
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# [21:07] <josh> bsmedberg: pong
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# [21:07] <@bsmedberg> josh: I sent mail about a blocker bug
# [21:07] <@bsmedberg> bug 747055
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# [21:13] <mkaply> Apologize for the dumb question. I'm guessing this is the wrong place to check aurora status since it is empty? http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [21:14] <zzzzz_> mkaply: yep, try here https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [21:15] <khuey> mkaply: tinderbox is dead*
# [21:15] <khuey> *some exclusions may apply
# [21:15] <mkaply> khuey: Then we should probably fix the linls?
# [21:15] <khuey> what links?
# [21:15] <mkaply> http://www.mozilla.org/developer/
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# [21:15] <mkaply> oh wait, never mind
# [21:16] <mkaply> that links is fixed :)
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# [21:16] <khuey> :-P
# [21:16] <jhammel> gcp: i don't know whether to be happy or sad ;)
# [21:17] <mkaply> So what does a green tree look like? No jobs failing at all in the upper right?
# [21:17] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg, re 747055: no repro from me either so far, only got adobe reader breaking after a message box... no idea though if that is related
# [21:17] <gcp> jhammel: seems undecisive so far
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# [21:17] <@bsmedberg> gfritzsche: could be, yeah. I was trying to make the testplugin pop up a dialog or something that would trigger the nested event loop
# [21:18] <khuey> mkaply: ha
# [21:18] <khuey> mkaply: are you sure you're not new here?
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# [21:18] <Mossop> mkaply: In theory yes, I don't think anyone has seen one in a long time though so we can't be sure of that. It might look like unicorns and rainbows
# [21:18] <mkaply> khuey: The last time I checked in code was on tinderbox.mozilla.org. It's been a while. :)
# [21:18] * zzzzz_ there is no such thing as a green tree - its mostly a myth and a dream
# [21:18] <mkaply> And I've seen green trees, so I know they exist.
# [21:19] <jhammel> that's what they said about unicorns!
# [21:19] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg: will look into traces for that on wednesday
# [21:20] <mkaply> khuey: And I do feel like a total newb. The world changed while I wasn't looking.
# [21:20] <smontagu> they existed before we had automatic tests
# [21:20] <jhammel> ha!
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# [21:20] <taras> bz: ping
# [21:20] <smontagu> mkaplyRipVanWinkle
# [21:20] <mkaply> smontagu: That will teach us.
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# [21:21] <mkaply> So what I'm hearing is that as long as the tree is open, I can check in.
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# [21:21] <khuey> mkaply: no
# [21:21] <khuey> mkaply: all the things in the top right should be starred
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# [21:21] <@bz> taras: ack
# [21:21] <khuey> meaning they have the green edges
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# [21:22] <mkaply> khuey: So we kept something from the old days (the term starred even though it isn't a star). I guess dog-eared sounded weird?
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# [21:23] <khuey> yes
# [21:23] <khuey> we didn't want you old fogeys to feel too out of place ;-)
# [21:23] <jviereck> dholbert: hi. does no response on the preview-doesn't-redraw with the mozPrintCallback issue mean you have no idea how to solve it :/?
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# [21:24] <khuey> dolske: ping?
# [21:24] <mkaply> khuey: You better watch it. I might check in some fortran
# [21:24] <taras> bz: so i have a question about tab switching and refresh driver
# [21:24] <@ehsan> armenzg: you can trigger it on the latest finished build, the currently progressing build will not add anything of value here
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# [21:24] <jhammel> mkaply: f77, i hope
# [21:24] <khuey> mkaply: r- on whatever build stuff that requires ;-)
# [21:24] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: why? what did I do again?
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# [21:24] <armenzg> ehsan: ok
# [21:24] <taras> bz: on slow hw, when you do ctrl-tab, eventually it starts skipping frame
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# [21:24] <taras> bz: is that the refreshdriver doing that?
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# [21:25] <@ehsan> armenzg: thanks
# [21:25] <taras> it gets into a funny state where you can switch tabs with certain speed..but if you get any faster, tabs start drawing less frequently
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# [21:26] <@bz> taras: could be....
# [21:26] <@bz> taras: not sure
# [21:26] <taras> bz: was hoping you knew, i'll file bug and see if anyone has theories
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# [21:28] <@ted> mrbkap: up until not long ago, the data for stars was still stored in tinderbox
# [21:28] <@ted> so they were still stars in some sense :)
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# [21:29] <@ted> er, that was for mkaply
# [21:29] * @ted poor reading comprehension
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# [21:30] <@bz> taras: this is the sort of thing where one would need to debug to be sure or something
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# [21:31] <@dolske> khuey: pong!
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# [21:31] <taras> Bas: maybe you know about how to debug 752630
# [21:31] <khuey> dolske: thing #1, I will be in MV tomorrow to claim my prize
# [21:32] <khuey> for the green push
# [21:32] <khuey> dolske: thing #2, please dispose of 752590 with some form of RESOLVED INVALID/WONTFIX
# [21:33] <mkaply> khuey: Do purple build failures have the same requirements? (back in my day, we didn't have purple. We just had green and red. And we liked it!)
# [21:33] <@dolske> khuey: it's already on my desk tagged with your name :)
# [21:33] <@dolske> khuey: I will likely be in meetings, feel free to just grab it
# [21:34] <philor> mkaply: they do, mostly because none of the colors really necessarily mean what they should
# [21:34] <khuey> dolske: woo
# [21:34] <khuey> dolske: where is your desk? same place it was a year ago?
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# [21:35] <philor> purple means infrastructure exception, or a hang on Windows when the purple of releng being unable to kill a process on Windows overrides the orange of the hang, or this that or the other thing that you can only tell by looking
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# [21:38] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ping
# [21:38] <philor> ohgodesr10
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# [21:38] <bbondy> ejpbruel: hi
# [21:38] <philor> seriously, people, when you push there, you have to tell me that you did
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# [21:39] <ejpbruel> bbondy: i was working on an issue where we'd lose transparency info when copying a bitmap to the clipboard on windows. do you still remember that?
# [21:39] <bbondy> somewhat ya
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# [21:39] <bbondy> I know what you're talking about yes
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# [21:42] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ok so ive started to trace the code for a bit
# [21:42] <@dolske> khuey: nearby, where faaborg (and before that vlad) used to sit.
# [21:43] <ejpbruel> bbondy: just a hunch so far, but could it be as simple that we'd have to add a flavor to the transferable?
# [21:43] <khuey> dolske: cool
# [21:44] <bbondy> I think I mentioned previously that I thought you did not have HTML format
# [21:44] <ejpbruel> bbondy: define 'not have'
# [21:44] <bbondy> not added as a data flavour
# [21:44] <mkaply> khuey: Thanks for all the help. Got it checked in and I think I'm prepared for next time.
# [21:44] <khuey> mkaply: excellent
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# [21:45] <bbondy> use clipspy.exe a codeproject download to see what's on your clipboard
# [21:45] <ejpbruel> bbondy: im not sure i understand why we'd need that for bitmaps
# [21:45] <ejpbruel> bbondy: k, lets see
# [21:46] <ejpbruel> bbondy: btw, theres also definitely a problem when pasting, since the code in nsImageClipboard only knows how to convert to RGB in that case
# [21:46] <bbondy> what do you need to do with the data once in the clipboard?
# [21:46] <ejpbruel> bbondy: paste it back into the browser
# [21:46] <ejpbruel> bbondy: think canvas for instance
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# [21:47] <bbondy> ejpbruel: can you link me to a test case?
# [21:47] <bbondy> or an html page I can load with a text description on how I can see the problem
# [21:47] <ejpbruel> bbondy: i can give you an addon that replicates the problem in a minimal way
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# [21:47] <bbondy> k
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# [21:48] <ejpbruel> bbondy at mozilla dot com ?
# [21:48] <bbondy> ya that's fine
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# [21:52] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ok so clipspy tells me that CF_DIB is on the clipboard but not CF_DIBV5 (which is what we need, according to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms649013(v=vs.85).aspx)
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# [21:53] <bbondy> my thought was that by adding the Html format (CF_HTML) we could avoid the conversion altogether
# [21:53] <bbondy> but if you can add that then that's cool :)
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# [21:53] <ejpbruel> bbondy: where do these transferables get created? can you point me in the right direction?
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# [21:54] <msucan> felipe: ping?
# [21:55] <bbondy> as I recall you have a @mozilla.org/widget/transferable;1 w/ interface nsITransferable add you call addDataFlavor and setTrasnferData
# [21:55] <Ms2ger> ehsan, ask bjacob :)
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# [21:56] <ejpbruel> bbondy: that makes sense
# [21:57] <felipe> msucan: pong
# [21:57] <bbondy> ejpbruel: so before wasting your time you could try right clicking on an image and copying it and then pasting it, what happens?
# [21:57] <bjacob> ehsan: include guards
# [21:57] <@ehsan> ah ok
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# [21:58] <ejpbruel> bbondy: looks like i still lose transparency info
# [21:59] <msucan> felipe: i have two patches waiting for review from you. i don't want to stress you but can you please provide me with an ETA?
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# [22:00] <msucan> or if you think they don't need review from you - please let me know
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# [22:01] <jviereck> roc: CreateSimilarSurface doesn't seem to work on linux for the printer surface. The PDF has a image surface for the canvas, not a vector like on. It works fine on Mac. How can that be?
# [22:01] <khuey> ehsan: ping?
# [22:01] <armenzg> ehsan: I am going to grab the slave now
# [22:01] <@ehsan> khuey: hi
# [22:01] <@ehsan> armenzg: ok
# [22:02] <khuey> ehsan: could you review 751585 today?
# [22:02] <khuey> I'd like to slip it into b3
# [22:02] <@ehsan> khuey: will do it right now
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# [22:02] <khuey> ehsan: have I mentioned lately that you rock?
# [22:03] <@ehsan> :)
# [22:03] <Ms2ger> mfinkle, bug 752428 is m-c-only, afaict
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# [22:03] <bbondy> ejpbruel: did you say it doesn't currently hit the nsImageToClipboard code last time we talked?
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# [22:04] <jesup> glandium: did about:tabs break recently? Installed and active, but about:tabs isn't recognized. V0.2
# [22:04] <jesup> glandium: TabStats 0.0.2 actually
# [22:04] <ejpbruel> bbondy: i couldnt make it hit that last time, but id have to double check
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# [22:05] <bbondy> ejpbruel: So if you can force it to copy a 32-bit bitmap instead that would work
# [22:05] <ejpbruel> bbondy: im currently checking if we dont actually create the image in such a way to lose alpha info before writing to the clipboard
# [22:05] <glandium> jesup: redownload it from my blog, i updated it
# [22:05] <glandium> jesup: it's nightly that broke it, fwiw
# [22:06] <armenzg> ehsan: when I had URLs and data where do I paste? which bug?
# [22:06] <ejpbruel> bbondy: heres what we do in the addon sdk
# [22:06] <ejpbruel> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1623961
# [22:06] <armenzg> I don't want to clutter the other one
# [22:06] <ejpbruel> where image is a data URL i believe
# [22:06] <@ehsan> armenzg: URLs to what?
# [22:06] <armenzg> if that's not the right one
# [22:06] <armenzg> ehsan: to logs
# [22:06] <@ehsan> armenzg: you can just pastebin it to me
# [22:06] <@ehsan> (or email)
# [22:07] <armenzg> ehsan: ok
# [22:07] <@ehsan> armenzg: I'm mostly interested in some other log files which will be left on this machine
# [22:07] <bbondy> where does options.data come from?
# [22:07] <@ehsan> armenzg: (can I log in back to it when you start the tests?)
# [22:07] <felipe> msucan: i'll review it today, sorry about the delay
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# [22:08] <jesup> glandium: Check for updates doesn't find the update (not AMO I assume is the reason). The description should include at least your blog's URL so people can check.
# [22:08] <jesup> tghanks
# [22:08] <jesup> thanks
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# [22:08] <bbondy> ejpbruel: So I just checked and we do call this nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage at paste time
# [22:08] <msucan> felipe: thank you! don't worry about hudservice changes too much. me and rob thought it would be good if an e10s expert would take a look at the way we use the message manager
# [22:08] <@ehsan> khuey: r=me
# [22:08] <ejpbruel> bbondy: yeah, and thats where we lose alpha channel no matter what, if im reading this right
# [22:08] <khuey> ehsan: ty
# [22:08] <ejpbruel> bbondy: because we convert the clipboard data to RGB
# [22:08] <felipe> msucan: sounds good, should I also take a look at the test changes?
# [22:09] <armenzg> ehsan: only via VNC; I had to change the Windows password
# [22:09] <armenzg> is that OK?
# [22:09] <armenzg> oh meeting!
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# [22:09] <@ehsan> armenzg_mtg: yeah vnc is fine
# [22:09] <ejpbruel> bbondy: but i suspect we already lose alpha channel during copy
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# [22:09] <msucan> felipe: hm, tests didn't change much in terms of message manager. they only wait now for async operations to complete, like a window.console API call or stuff like that
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# [22:10] <msucan> felipe: this work is really about making the web console async. we don't intend to keep this message manager code much. we want to switch to the remote debug protocol
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# [22:10] <taras> romaxa: are you coming to the meeting
# [22:10] <msucan> but the initial patch started out life as work for e10s (last year)
# [22:10] <taras> err
# [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c24b721ca5c9 - Kyle Huey - Bug 751585: Don't enforce ASLR for binary components on XP, because system DLLs don't have ASLR and trigger false positives. r=bsmedberg,ehsan
# [22:11] <taras> roc: are you coming to the meeting?
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# [22:11] <felipe> msucan: ok good, thanks for the context. which kind of leak did you fix in the updated patch? was it anything related to the message manager?
# [22:11] <ejpbruel> bbondy: btw, dont you mean that function gets called at copy time?
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# [22:11] <msucan> felipe: there were a few types of leaks - test leaks and some hudservice content script leaks. explained in the comment
# [22:11] <bbondy> it's only hit once the other app requests that format via callback I think
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# [22:12] <lmandel> jprmc: gfx priorities meeting?
# [22:12] <bbondy> from nsDataObj::GetData
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# [22:12] <Ms2ger> gfx has priorities? :)
# [22:12] <felipe> msucan: perfect, thanks
# [22:13] <bbondy> ejpbruel: I can debug this tonight and give you some more insight or a solution, can you email me the bug number?
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# [22:13] <@ted> ehsan: did you actually do a windows build with clang?
# [22:13] <jesup> glandium: Can't find an update on your blog. glandium.org/blog?
# [22:13] <@ehsan> ted: I got past configure ;)
# [22:13] <@ted> heh
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# [22:14] <@ted> ehsan: jacek posted his mozconfig for mingw builds the other day
# [22:14] <ejpbruel> bbondy: certainly, bug 460969
# [22:14] <bbondy> clang on windows, neat
# [22:14] <@ted> might be enlightening
# [22:14] <@ted> i realized one thing that i forgot about when we were discussing mingw builds last week
# [22:14] <khuey> bbondy: mmm nsDataObj
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# [22:14] <@ted> they don't produce PDB files, so you can't debug them in VS or WinDBG
# [22:14] <@ehsan> ted: yeah my mozconfig is also based on the mingw one
# [22:14] <ejpbruel> bbondy: currently, it looks as thought the initial assessment is right. nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage uses the old bitmap header, which loses alpha
# [22:14] <@ehsan> ted: right
# [22:15] <ejpbruel> bbondy: and nsImageFromClipboard::GetEncodedImageStream converts whatever is on the clipboard to RGB, which loses alpha
# [22:15] <ejpbruel> so the problem is two fold
# [22:15] <@ted> google has some PDB reader/writer code in szyzgy
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# [22:15] <@ted> wonder if someone could hook that up to mingw/clang
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# [22:15] <froydnj> probably not too hard
# [22:16] <@ted> the PDB file format looks a little goofy, but the data it contains is pretty straightforward
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# [22:17] <jdm> jrmuizel was trying to convince me to take on that task a few months ago
# [22:17] <jdm> I looked for information on the format but couldn't find anything
# [22:17] <@ehsan> jdm: yeah I still think you should do it ;)(
# [22:18] <@ted> jdm: it's pretty undocumented
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# [22:18] <@ted> there's some windows internals book that documented it a while ago, i think
# [22:18] <@ted> the google source is probably the best bet
# [22:19] <@ted> froydnj: related: did you give up on binary reordering because making it work with PGO was too hard?
# [22:19] <@ted> jdm: http://code.google.com/p/sawbuck/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fsyzygy%2Fpdb FYI
# [22:20] <jdm> good to know
# [22:21] <lmandel> roc: Can you join the gfx meeting now?
# [22:21] <froydnj> ted: IIRC, it coped with PGO just fine; I couldn't get straight perf numbers, though, and got pulled to work on other things
# [22:21] <@ted> ah
# [22:21] <froydnj> ted: taras keeps threatening to put me back to work on it
# [22:21] <@ted> heh
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# [22:24] <bbondy> ejpbruel: I think we can use our own encoder in this case which wont' give us a v5 bitmap but will give us one that is 32bit and has transparency info
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# [22:24] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ehm, anything older than v4 shouldnt support alpha at all, rite?
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# [22:25] <bbondy> no you can support it in a couple ways, one is with a transaprency mask, and the other is with the 4th byte of a 32-bit bitmap if it contains at least one non-zero bytes
# [22:25] <bbondy> sorry not transaprency mask that's only for ico
# [22:26] <bbondy> so just the 32-bit bitmap though
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# [22:26] <ejpbruel> bbondy: from msdn:
# [22:26] <ejpbruel> The bitmap has a maximum of 2^32 colors. If the biCompression member of the BITMAPINFOHEADER is BI_RGB, the bmiColors member of BITMAPINFO is NULL. Each DWORD in the bitmap array represents the relative intensities of blue, green, and red for a pixel. The value for blue is in the least significant 8 bits, followed by 8 bits each for green and red. The high byte in each DWORD is not used.
# [22:26] <ejpbruel> that last sentence is significant, and confusing to me
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# [22:27] <ejpbruel> from wiki: A 16-bit and 32-bit version of DIB with an integrated alpha channel has been introduced with the undocumented BITMAPV3INFOHEADER and with the documented BITMAPV4HEADER
# [22:27] <ejpbruel> that seems to suggest that BITMAPINFOHEADER is not meant to work with alpha channel data
# [22:28] <jimm> ejpbruel: take a look at the v5 header
# [22:28] <ejpbruel> even though some apps might interpret it
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# [22:28] <ejpbruel> jimm: my point is that we should switch to the v5 header
# [22:28] <jprmc> lmandel: still in mobile triage, please guide
# [22:28] <jimm> for alpha?
# [22:28] <bbondy> The 32-bit per pixel (32bpp) format supports 4,294,967,296 distinct colors and stores 1 pixel per 4 byte DWORD. Each DWORD can define the Alpha, Red, Green and Blue samples of the pixel.
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# [22:29] <bbondy> jimm: we don't even need the v5 header, we support alpha channels with 32-bit bitmaps
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# [22:30] <ejpbruel> bbondy: we do, but do other apps as well? (also, where did you get that quote from :))
# [22:30] <bbondy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP_file_format is the most comprehensive resource for the bmp file format
# [22:30] <bbondy> but you can search wotsit.org as well for less good documentation
# [22:30] <bbondy> yes others do as well
# [22:32] <ejpbruel> bbondy: ok, you're the more knowledgeable windows guy, so ill take your word for it
# [22:32] <ejpbruel> bbondy: how do we use our own image encoder for this?
# [22:33] <bbondy> so you can use imgtools EncodeImage
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# [22:33] <bbondy> specifying a mime type for bitmap and specifying 32bpp encoder options
# [22:33] <Waldo> anyone know what the current upgrade path from 3.6 is like? do we shift people to 4 then to something newer, do we go directly to the latest release, or something more elaborate than either of those?
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# [22:35] <bbondy> ejpbruel: See JumpListBuilder.cpp line 640
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# [22:35] <bbondy> I would suggest to use similar code to that inside nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage
# [22:35] <ejpbruel> bbondy: right, so id have to change nsDataObj::GetData and SetData to use the image encoder rather than the nsImageFrom/ToClipboard clsses
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# [22:35] <bbondy> I htink you wouldn't need any changes except in nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage
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# [22:37] <gcp> wtf is a "goldilocks consult"
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# [22:39] <@dolske> looking for something "just right"?
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# [22:40] <ejpbruel> bbondy: i think we also need to make the imageencoder in nsImageFromClipboard::GetEncodedImageStream alpha aware
# [22:40] <bbondy> ejpbruel: I can do a patch if you want tonight?
# [22:41] <bbondy> it's already in the imgContainer with alpha information
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# [22:41] <bbondy> it's the code that encodes the image from that where the alpha info is lost
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# [22:42] <ejpbruel> bbondy: even though we call encoder->InitFromData with INPUT_FORMAT_RGB ?
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# [22:45] <ejpbruel> bbondy: we encode whatever is on the clipboard to whatever mime type we need, but if im reading this right nsImageFromClipboard::GetEncodedImageStream always assumes that whats on the clipboard is RGB
# [22:45] <bbondy> I don't think we're calling into the code that calls encoder->InitFromData
# [22:45] <bbondy> we're calling into nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage
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# [22:45] <ejpbruel> bbondy: when copying, yes
# [22:45] <ejpbruel> bbondy: when pasting, we call the other one
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# [22:46] <ejpbruel> bbondy: according to my debugger
# [22:46] <ejpbruel> (for jetpack, we want to be able to paste stuff from the clipboard back into the browser, so i care about that case as well)
# [22:46] <bbondy> when we paste nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage gets called
# [22:46] <bbondy> even if you paste to mspaint
# [22:46] <philor> could someone back smontagu out on inbound?
# [22:48] <philor> ehsan: you'd find ^ quite familiar, even :)
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# [22:48] <ejpbruel> bbondy: yes, and after that theres a call to nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage as well. where does that come from then?
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# [22:49] <bbondy> it comes from nsImageToClipboard :: GetPicture which comes from nsDataObj::GetDib
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# [22:49] <glandium> jesup: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2180
# [22:50] <ejpbruel> bbondy: sorry, what i meant is
# [22:50] <ejpbruel> if you paste, first i see a call to nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage , but then i see a call to nsImageFromClipboard::GetEncodedImageStream as well
# [22:50] <ejpbruel> but i think this is caused by how my colleague wrote this particular add-on
# [22:50] <bbondy> if you paste into FF
# [22:51] <bbondy> if you paste to some random other application you'll only see CreateFromImage
# [22:51] <ejpbruel> bbondy: right! so we also care about pasting to FF
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# [22:51] <ejpbruel> sorry if that wasnt clear
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# [22:54] <ejpbruel> bbondy: can i propose that i write a patch for this myself? i could use the exercise on win32
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# [22:54] <bbondy> yes that's cool
# [22:54] <ejpbruel> if you could review it, that would be swell
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# [22:54] <bbondy> ya you might need to also change GetEncodedImageStream if pasting into firefox
# [22:54] <bbondy> but i'd suggest first to get it working by copying from FF and pasting to some other program
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# [22:55] <ejpbruel> bbondy: agreed. lets do this in 2 steps. ill file the first patch tomorrow
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# [22:55] <bbondy> k
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# [22:56] <bbondy> ejpbruel: so I think as soon as you change nsImageToClipboard::CreateFromImage to use a 32bpp bitmap (via the bmp encoder encoder options) then the transparency will ork for the first part.
# [22:57] <ejpbruel> bbondy: jup, thats what im guessing too
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# [23:00] <jesup> glandium: You should make a blog post about the update. I never in a million years would have dug through the old post for the "installing it" link (hard to see when marked visited for me), and clicked on it Just In Case you had updated the extension....
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# [23:00] <jesup> And include "about:tabs" and/or "TabStats" in the title - or at least the text.... ;-)
# [23:00] <jesup> thanks
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# [23:08] <Waldo> biesi: re <http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6390>, how is "du" grammatically correct? I though only "dich" (or "sie", although it's near self-contradictory) would be right there
# [23:08] <bbondy> ejpbruel: Once you do the second part of this task you'll also have to update nsImageFromClipboard::ConvertColorBitMap to return a 4th byte of alpha data as well and update to imgIEncoder::INPUT_FORMAT_RGBA
# [23:08] <bbondy> ejpbruel: Also I can't guarantee that this will work but I suspect it will :)
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# [23:08] <RyanVM> dholbert: ping
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# [23:11] <dholbert> RyanVM, in a meeting for a few min, ping me if I don't pong w/in 20min
# [23:11] <RyanVM> ok
# [23:11] <jgilbert> Waldo: yeah, 'ich liebe dich' is the common phrase
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# [23:12] <Ms2ger> dholbert++
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# [23:14] <RyanVM> (planning to mark 750551 as failing on linux)
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# [23:15] <mkohler> hi guys, I get the following error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1624083 .. is there something wrong with the code (tbpl suggests otherwise) or is it my configuraton? here's my mozconfig: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1624084
# [23:16] <Waldo> jgilbert: yeah, I studied German long enough before high school, and in it, that I'm pretty confused about why a native speaker would be contradicting my experience
# [23:16] <@ted> man, public-webapps gets a pretty good volume of traffic
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# [23:18] <Ms2ger> ted, at least it isn't www-style or public-html
# [23:18] <@ted> i suppose
# [23:19] <jgilbert> Waldo: could've just meant 'du' vs 'sie', which would be dich/sie after applying grammar
# [23:19] <Ms2ger> Grammar--
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# [23:20] <Ms2ger> I guess the obvious next word after "grammar" on the internet would be inappropriate considering the language
# [23:20] <Waldo> hm, plausible
# [23:21] <Waldo> Ms2ger: you must have missed the mini-kerfuffle over the two guys at the last guadec (in Berlin) who played a Hitler parody discussing the gnome 3 shell UI
# [23:21] <jhammel> Ms2ger: "rodeo"?
# [23:21] <jhammel> those Germans love their rodeo
# [23:21] <jgilbert> Grammar-communist, clearly
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# [23:21] <jhammel> "The workers control the grammar of production"
# [23:21] <Ms2ger> jhammel, you have less of a soul than Kermit.
# [23:22] <jlebar> I don't have tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py, even though my mozconfig has --enable-tests. What's going on here?
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# [23:22] <jgilbert> germans do love their westerns
# [23:22] <Waldo> as I understand, generally people were not too offended, although there was some offense felt on behalf of people it was thought would be taking offense
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# [23:22] <jgilbert> meta-offense
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# [23:23] <Waldo> and apparently the audience was laughing so hard throughout that someone taking the German dialogue at face value should have learned what was up pretty quickly
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# [23:25] <RyanVM> backing out 7a8607523522
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# [23:27] <RyanVM> dholbert: ping again :) Just looking for a rubber stamp to mark the bug 750551 reftest as failing-if(gtk2widget)
# [23:27] <Ms2ger> rs=me
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# [23:28] <RyanVM> works for me
# [23:28] <bbondy> ejpbruel: Also in memory DIBs dont' have the first 14 byte bitmap file header that bitmap files do, so if you use the imagelib bmp encoder you'll have to skip over those first 14 bytes
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# [23:29] <dholbert> Ms2ger / RyanVM, thanks
# [23:29] <jlebar> What's the deal with TimeStamp::Startup() isn't defined?
# [23:29] <Ms2ger> np
# [23:29] <bbondy> ejpbruel: If there's an easy way via win32 api to get the v5 format you can do that too, that will for sure work. I suspect the other way I suggested will work also but I'm not 100% confident about it
# [23:29] <Ms2ger> jlebar, ubuntu? -> pull inbound tip & clobber
# [23:29] <dholbert> hrm
# [23:29] <dholbert> RyanVM, actually
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# [23:29] <philor> needs-clobber
# [23:29] <RyanVM> (already pushed :P)
# [23:29] <philor> but we were both too late
# [23:30] <dholbert> RyanVM, np -- I'm gonna encourage smontagu to back out & fix the test
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# [23:30] <RyanVM> dholbert: works for me. This at least gets things green for now.
# [23:30] <jlebar> Ms2ger: inbound only, not m-c?
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# [23:30] <Ms2ger> Probably not merged yet
# [23:30] <Ms2ger> Ask RyanVM :)
# [23:30] <jlebar> Damn, we really, really need a git mirror of inbound.
# [23:30] <jlebar> This makes life difficult.
# [23:31] <Ms2ger> Git? Yes.
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# [23:31] <RyanVM> Ms2ger/jlebar: wha?
# [23:31] <mkohler> why not migrate everything to git? ;)
# [23:31] <Ms2ger> mkohler--
# [23:31] <RyanVM> what Ms2ger said
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# [23:32] <@bz> mkohler: does it work in finite time on Windows now?
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# [23:32] <jlebar> Ms2ger: It's 2a0b7a536677?
# [23:32] <Ms2ger> jlebar, no idea
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# [23:32] <RyanVM> that's the backout
# [23:32] <jlebar> RyanVM: halp.
# [23:32] <mkohler> bz: haven't used Windows for a long time
# [23:32] <jlebar> RyanVM: So I need to cherry-pick that patch?
# [23:33] <@bz> mkohler: well yes, but some people still have to deal with it. That was one of the reasons we chose hg over git initially....
# [23:33] <RyanVM> jlebar: what are we trying to accomplish here? I'm a bit lost
# [23:33] <RyanVM> bz: my experience with webkit is that svn at least is insanely slow in Windows.
# [23:33] <@bz> RyanVM: svn is insanely slow
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# [23:33] <@bz> RyanVM: on mac too
# [23:33] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, no link errors on his local build
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# [23:34] <jlebar> RyanVM: mozilla::TimeStamp::Startup() isn't defined. What commit do I need to cherry-pick to fix that?
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# [23:34] <RyanVM> jlebar: Don't you just need to clobber?
# [23:35] <jlebar> RyanVM: I just clobbered.
# [23:35] <jlebar> I can clobber again...
# [23:35] * jlebar re-clobbers, just for fun.
# [23:36] <RyanVM> the backout I just did had nothing to do with TimeStamp
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# [23:36] <RyanVM> philor: Are you saying that 2a0b7a536677 really only needed a clobber?
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# [23:38] <jlebar> RyanVM: The problem is, I'm on git, and so I can't just pull inbound. :(
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# [23:43] <NeilAway> decoder: hey, I only wanted private data on a private message ;-)
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# [23:46] <RyanVM> configure: error: run `make distclean' and/or `rm /builds/slave/m-in-b2g/build/obj-b2g/tools/profiler/libunwind/src/config.cache' and start over
# [23:46] <RyanVM> I guess this is a needs-clobber issue?
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# [23:50] <mbrubeck> sounds like it
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# [23:54] <decoder> NeilAway: i just wanted to make sure you'd get it :)
# [23:55] <decoder> i commented in the bug about the resolution
# [23:55] <decoder> at least for my case
# [23:55] <NeilAway> decoder: that's a bad way, because it doesn't get highlighted
# [23:55] <decoder> that probably depends on the client
# [23:55] <decoder> but ok :D
# [23:55] <decoder> the initial failure was due to omni.ja not being in the same directory as the xpcshell binary
# [23:55] <decoder> the followup corruption is probably the same as described in the bug report, but with different source
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