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# Session Start: Sat May 19 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <@bz> khuey: ping
# [00:02] <jphan> jdm: yes im working with marcos
# [00:02] <jdm> ok
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# [00:02] <jlebar> jviereck1, You want to find the place in nsDocShell where your events are fired.
# [00:03] <@bz> khuey: unping, your parser works better than I hoped. ;)
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# [00:04] <jlebar> jviereck1, I'd also check the return value of webProgress->AddProgressListener.
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# [00:05] <khuey> bz: woo
# [00:05] <@bz> WebIDL.WebIDLError: error: Cannot coerce null value to type <unresolved scope>::TestInterface., TestCodeGen.webidl line 1:65
# [00:05] <@bz> void passOptionalNonNullSelfWithDefault(optional TestInterface arg = null);
# [00:05] <@bz> ^
# [00:05] <@bz> In particular
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# [00:06] <@bz> awesome
# [00:06] <@bz> this case, though
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# [00:06] <@bz> void passOptionalNonNullSelf(optional TestInterface arg);
# [00:07] <@bz> Leads to code that does not compile..... ;)
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# [00:10] <Waldo> bjacob: could you briefly mention CheckedInt stuff on https://developer.mozilla.org/en/mfbt?
# [00:10] <bjacob> Waldo: ok
# [00:11] <Waldo> I'm trying to have the source code, as much as possible, be the definitive documentation source, but we want something overviewish to guide people to the right thing
# [00:12] <Waldo> bjacob: also ThreadLocal, too
# [00:12] <sheppy> Waldo: That's reasonable. It would be good if that had good links to the interesting headers as well, especially if we could link to a javadoc-like output.
# [00:12] <WG9s> jphan: the bug has mentor=felipe in the whiteboard. that kind of means if you need help you should be asking felipe.
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# [00:12] <bjacob> Waldo: yo
# [00:12] <jphan> WG9s i am actualy talking to felpie right now
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# [00:13] <justdave> is someone mass-changing lots of bugs on bugzilla this afternoon?
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# [00:13] <Allisoneer> Is anyone experienced with scratchpad? I am new to scratchpad and may have found a bug but there's the possibility it is intended behavior. Can anyone help?
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# [00:13] <sheppy> Waldo: In fact, perhaps for MFBT we need to look at having some kind of javadoc cronjob that builds output from the MFBT headers every once in a while so we have those available on a special area on MDN.
# [00:14] <Waldo> sheppy: seems plausible
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# [00:14] <sheppy> OK, gotta run, Sophie is done with karate. Later.
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# [00:14] <Waldo> chop chop!
# [00:14] <sheppy> Waldo: Could you file a bug suggesting that, and cc me?
# [00:14] <Waldo> sure
# [00:14] <sheppy> I'd do it but can't since I have to run. :)
# [00:14] <sheppy> Thanks!
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# [00:18] <WeirdAl> a review, a review, a lunch for a review :)
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# [00:21] <jviereck1> so the nsIWebProgressListener is not added to the same docShell the load events happen in :/
# [00:21] <bjacob> Waldo: done
# [00:22] <dholbert> epic netsplit
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# [00:22] <Waldo> bjacob: thanks!
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# [00:23] <dholbert> ahh
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# [00:23] <Waldo> last one, they said; disruption will be over, they said
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# [00:27] <Waldo> bjacob: do you have any idea what you changed when you made the source link display properly? interdiff is telling me nothing :-\
# [00:28] <bjacob> Waldo: i went to source view, and added <code>...</code>
# [00:29] <bjacob> Waldo: i wish we used mediawiki
# [00:29] <Waldo> me too :-(
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# [00:30] <Waldo> too bad Ms2ger's not here to say so too
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# [00:30] <Waldo> and sheppy's not here to hear it ;-)
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# [00:38] <jviereck1> is there a way to get from a PresShell to the docShell?
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# [00:40] <@khuey> jviereck1: get the document from the presshell, and then get the document's container
# [00:40] <jdm> jviereck1: you can probably get one from the document
# [00:40] <@khuey> (which is the docshell)
# [00:41] <jdm> jviereck1: in fact, apparently you can get the prescontext, container and QI to docshell
# [00:42] <jdm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#1259
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# [00:42] <jviereck1> jdm: khuey: awesome, thanks!
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# [00:44] <mcot> qq
# [00:44] <mcot> anyone know why a site like amazon would choose to preload images using the object tag and data attribute rather than img/src in mozilla
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# [00:45] <philor> because they like to sometimes half load and look utterly broken?
# [00:45] <mcot> there is specific code to branch and load using object for ff
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# [00:46] <cjones> dzbarsky, ping
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# [00:47] <dzbarsky> cjones: pong
# [00:48] <cjones> hi dzbarsky, how much did andreas talk to you about async animation?
# [00:48] <mcot> from: http://www.phpied.com/preload-cssjavascript-without-execution/ "new Image().src doesn't do the job in FF because it has a separate cache for images."
# [00:49] <mcot> I guess that explains that...
# [00:49] <dzbarsky> very little. i skyped with him but his internet kept getting cut out. he told me to start with 754542 and do async animation after
# [00:49] <@khuey> mcot: what does that even mean?
# [00:50] <@khuey> if you're preloading images presumably you want them in the image cache ...
# [00:50] <mcot> I am just trying to understand these crazy hacks people do
# [00:50] <mcot> don't ask me to explain them :)
# [00:50] <cjones> dzbarsky, want to catch up on skype for a bit?
# [00:50] <dzbarsky> yes please.
# [00:51] <jviereck1> so I a progress listener via AddProgressListener to an nsDocLoader. The actual loads happen in different nsDocLoader. Any idea how I can figure out what's going wrong here?
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# [01:03] <gcp> go to youtube
# [01:03] <gcp> click at the bottom of the page "report a bug"
# [01:03] <gcp> BOOM
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# [01:05] <@khuey> WFM
# [01:06] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754600
# [01:06] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756683
# [01:06] <@khuey> gcp: got a breakpad link?
# [01:06] <gcp> this is mine:
# [01:06] <gcp> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-cab10ddc-09a3-4a86-b556-c6f2c2120518
# [01:07] <gcp> this is the reporter:
# [01:07] <gcp> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-5036acfd-cee7-409c-bf18-972a92120518
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# [01:11] <zzzzz_> YT had some poisoned cookies and I think a UA sniffing problem, they pushed a fix for that a couple nights ago - maybe try clearing your cookies for YT or opt out of HTML5 and back in again
# [01:12] <@khuey> well content crashing the browser is our bug no matter what
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# [01:13] <@dolske> khuey: and by "our" bug you mean "bholley's bug", right? :)
# [01:13] <@dolske> at least, i spy some xpconnect on those thacks
# [01:13] <@dolske> stacks, even.
# [01:13] <@khuey> dolske: indeed
# [01:13] <@dolske> aaaand now i want pancakes.
# [01:14] <@khuey> dolske: and it involved adopting nodes
# [01:14] <@khuey> chances of being a cpg regression are pretty good
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# [01:18] <@dolske> hmm. I don't believe the GC/CC times in the error console
# [01:18] <jviereck1> 2013948256[100379380]: DocLoader:115fe7400: ++ Firing OnStateChange for end document load (...). URI: file:///Users/jviereck/develop/moz/pdfjs/notes/printing_callback/print_font_iframe.html Status=0
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# [01:18] <@dolske> :-o
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# [01:18] <rniwa> LOL. that was annoying :\
# [01:18] <@khuey> killer++
# [01:19] <@dolske> indeed
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# [01:19] <@khuey> jviereck1: pastebin.mozilla.org is your friend
# [01:19] <@dolske> ahem. as I was saying... error console says I'm getting ~500ms CCs, but my browser is utterly nonresponsive and pinwheeling.
# [01:19] <jviereck1> why are the DocLoader's pointer addresses not the same?
# [01:19] <jviereck1> khuey: sorry!
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# [01:20] <@khuey> jviereck1: you get notifications for all the child docloaders too, iirc
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# [01:21] <@dolske> oh wait, my bad, it's that damn socorro bug thrashing my browser.
# [01:21] <dRdR> cjones: so it looks like from my reading that one of the assumptions we talked about, that b2g and fennec both use an nsEvent or some kind of common container for touch events is wrong
# [01:21] <jviereck1> khuey: that means the DocLoader with address 115fe7400 is the "parent" and the others are children of the DocLoader?
# [01:22] <dRdR> cjones: it seems like fennec uses AndroidGeckoEvent, and b2g uses nsTouchEvent
# [01:22] <@khuey> jviereck1: possibly
# [01:22] <dRdR> cjones: they're pretty similar but they don't have any common base that I can see
# [01:22] <rhelmer> dolske: the one where it prints out the same (huge) page like 5 times?
# [01:23] <@khuey> jviereck1: whichever one you called addProgressListener on is the "parent"
# [01:23] <@khuey> no idea if that's guaranteed to be the first one or not
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# [01:24] <@dolske> rhelmer: yeah
# [01:25] <rhelmer> dolske: that's annoying, thought we got rid of that.. crash-stats uses an old now-unsupported php framework, so it's probably some other race condition in it's session code (besides the one they documented!)
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# [01:25] <@dolske> lovely
# [01:25] <rhelmer> dolske: i am actually moving crash-stats over to the same framework addons, marketplace etc. use so that should help
# [01:25] <@dolske> ^5
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# [01:26] <jviereck1> khuey: wonderful. Then I got it. For some reason we use the same nsDocLoader for loading all the resources from the print document, although we created a static cloned document and new presShells
# [01:26] <rhelmer> dolske: would you mind commenting on bug 702318 that you hit it again?
# [01:27] <rhelmer> dolske: I'll prioritize getting that page moved over sooner, and we can look at it in the meantime too
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# [01:37] <Waldo> hmm, anyone else seeing bugmail showing up really slowly today?
# [01:37] <Waldo> like, I'm only just getting bugmail from half an hour ago
# [01:38] <@khuey> Waldo: yes
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# [02:13] <dria> i just made a minor change to the feature page system (just adding some values to dropdowns) -- ping me if anything breaks.
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# [02:19] <dev> the bug I am working on has HONEYSWEETNESS17@HOTMAIL.COM in the CC list. I refuse to believe that is a real developer
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# [02:20] <Waldo> :-)
# [02:20] <Waldo> CC lists aren't just "real developers" :-)
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# [02:22] <cjones> dRdR, sorry, missed your ping
# [02:22] <cjones> dRdR, that's one of the things we need to unify
# [02:22] <cjones> there's always a platform-specific input event at some point
# [02:22] <cjones> by the time it gets into the generic controller code, it needs to be a platform-neutral representation
# [02:22] <cjones> nsEvent is a convenient one
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# [02:23] <cjones> IIRC AndroidGeckoEvent is used to communicate from java UI thread to gecko content thread
# [02:23] <cjones> and there's code in gecko to convert that into ns*Event
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# [02:27] <dRdR> cjones: ah ok, so I'll write an intermediate step to convert AndroidGeckoEvent to nsTouchEvent/whatever else
# [02:27] <cjones> that code should already exist
# [02:27] <dRdR> yeah, but it's not being used it doesn't look like
# [02:27] <dRdR> at least within fennec
# [02:28] <cjones> what does PZC.java consume?
# [02:28] <dRdR> MotionEvents
# [02:28] <jlebar> Waldo, arguments.callee inside a bound function is the unbound function?
# [02:28] <Waldo> jlebar: yes
# [02:28] <cjones> k, the raw android thing
# [02:28] <jlebar> Waldo, I knew JS was messed up, but...
# [02:28] <Waldo> jlebar: that's a spec requirement
# [02:28] <dRdR> yes
# [02:28] <jlebar> wow.
# [02:28] <cjones> we don't necessarily need to round-trip through MotionEvent->AGE->nsEvent
# [02:29] <Waldo> jlebar: I'm not so sure it's messed up, honestly; it lets you implement bound functions by just chaining function calls a bit
# [02:29] <cjones> we can cut out the middle man
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# [02:29] <Waldo> jlebar: which seems pretty desirable
# [02:29] <cjones> whatever is most convenient
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# [02:29] <dRdR> but the native event queing system uses AndroidGeckoEvent
# [02:29] <jlebar> Waldo, It kind of misses the base on what people use arguments.callee for.
# [02:29] <dRdR> and that has code other than just touch event handlers
# [02:29] <Waldo> jlebar: it's not like you're "instantiating" the unbound function multiple times
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# [02:29] <jlebar> Waldo, There are nutso uses, but then there's also removeEventListener(arguments.callee)
# [02:30] <cjones> dRdR, the controller should eventually feed that queue
# [02:30] <cjones> i don't know all the details of how that works currently
# [02:30] <Waldo> people could name their functions and remove them just as easily that way, prior to bound functions; note also that libraries that invented their own binding mechanisms would have had arguments.callee != the bound function as well
# [02:30] <Waldo> jlebar: ^
# [02:31] <Waldo> so this is a "deficiency" people live with, and have lived with, for some time
# [02:31] <jlebar> Sure, and in that sense, removing arguments.callee suggests not much is lost.
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# [02:31] <jlebar> If it never worked how I wanted it to in the first place!
# [02:31] <Waldo> stack introspection is just evil
# [02:31] <Waldo> and that's what arguments.callee does
# [02:32] <jlebar> I agree in general. But sometimes I just want to say "don't call me again! Take me off your mailing list!"
# [02:32] <jlebar> It'd be like if you were getting spammed and you couldn't tell what e-mail address it was coming from. So then every time you signed up for something online, you had to write down the e-mail address you put down...
# [02:32] * jlebar is not sure about this analogy.
# [02:33] <jlebar> You don't really need arguments.callee for that.
# [02:33] <Waldo> I'm not so sure of it either :-P
# [02:33] <jlebar> Just an "unsubscribe" button.
# [02:34] <Waldo> might be better if you could register one-shot event listeners for that purpose
# [02:34] <jlebar> Like, return false from the event handler, for example. Although that probably does something else.
# [02:34] <jlebar> Or one-shot listeners, that would work.
# [02:34] <jlebar> For some things, anyway.
# [02:34] <Waldo> the return value of an event listener controls default prevention...I think
# [02:34] <Waldo> might be different for programmatically-added ones versus on* attribute ones
# [02:35] <jlebar> (It's like someone tried to make this impossible to learn.)
# [02:35] <Waldo> it's the web, situation normal, everything fouled up
# [02:35] <jlebar> Indeed.
# [02:35] <jlebar> Well, thanks for teaching me something!
# [02:35] <Waldo> er, s/everything/all/
# [02:35] <Waldo> np :-)
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# [02:38] <dzbarsky> cjones: ping?
# [02:38] <cjones> hey dzbarsky
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# [02:40] <dzbarsky> whats up with the XInitThreads() call you added in nsAppRunner? is that from something else in your queue?
# [02:42] <cjones> i was testing with omtc on X11, and you have to call that for Xlib to multi-thread properly
# [02:43] <cjones> that should be split into another bug
# [02:43] <cjones> nical ^^
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# [02:44] <dzbarsky> cjones: ^
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# [02:44] <cjones> <cjones> i was testing with omtc on X11, and you have to call that for Xlib to multi-thread properly
# [02:44] <cjones> <cjones> that should be split into another bug
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# [02:44] <dzbarsky> cjones: ok cool
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# [02:46] <dzbarsky> cjones: well its giving compiler errors, thats what I asked ;)
# [02:46] <cjones> ah :)
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# [03:29] <RyanVM> khuey: you there?
# [03:30] <RyanVM> otherwise, Waldo, maybe you can help
# [03:30] <Waldo> ?
# [03:30] <@khuey> RyanVM: for a few minutes
# [03:30] <RyanVM> Waldo, do you have access to s-s bugs?
# [03:30] <RyanVM> i need someone to close a bug
# [03:30] <@khuey> what bug?
# [03:30] <@khuey> and what rev?
# [03:31] <RyanVM> PMing you
# [03:31] <@khuey> k
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# [03:37] <Callek> s-s?
# [03:37] <Callek> "services security"?
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# [03:40] <Waldo> also, grmbl about GNOME 3.0 not having persistently visible notifications of some sort
# [03:41] <Waldo> maybe if I'm lucky they have something new that'll be in Fedora 17 when I upgrade
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# [03:49] <ewong> Callek, I've set up a local instance of tbpl.. just wondering.. under what condition would going to http://localhost/tbpl immediately redirect me to http://localhost/tbpl/wrongtree.html?
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# [03:49] <ewong> or if someone else can answer that question.. very much appreciated :)
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# [04:31] <@khuey> lol
# [04:31] <@khuey> http://qtmemes.tumblr.com/post/22206892761/working-on-android-requires-some-serious-drugs
# [04:31] <mbrubeck> http://pulseaudiomemes.tumblr.com/post/22895589698/nuff-said
# [04:32] <@khuey> heh
# [04:32] * mbrubeck submits a patch to add that image to the TBPL comment form if /android/.test(jobname)
# [04:33] <@khuey> :-D
# [04:33] <@khuey> r+
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# [04:46] <JonathanS> khuey, what is a wrong with Android?
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# [04:46] <JonathanS> mbrubeck http://qtmemes.tumblr.com/post/22832720769/weve-all-done-it
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# [04:47] <@khuey> JonathanS: everything
# [04:48] <JonathanS> how it can be everything? do you prefer walled gardens iOS?
# [04:49] <@khuey> I'm not talking about using it
# [04:49] <@khuey> I'm talking about writing software for it ;-)
# [04:49] <@khuey> or even worse, debugging software on it
# [04:49] <JonathanS> khuey, oh? I wrote Java and C# for it :)
# [04:49] <JonathanS> in app
# [04:50] <lduros> _holy cow_ am I dreaming or does nightly execute <script> with an invalid type these days?
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# [04:51] <lduros> this is running for me locally: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1645761
# [04:52] <lduros> the script is being interpreted and executed
# [04:52] <lduros> that's not the case in FF12
# [04:52] <JonathanS> lduros, if I have text/diejs, it executed?
# [04:52] <lduros> it looks like it
# [04:52] <lduros> that's a huge issue for me
# [04:53] <@khuey> lduros: that's a spec violation, iirc
# [04:53] <lduros> khuey: my extension blocks js by changing the type
# [04:53] <@khuey> lduros: file a bug, Core::DOM, cc me
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# [04:53] <lduros> to librejs/block
# [04:53] <lduros> :-(
# [04:53] <lduros> so now it's not blocking it
# [04:53] <lduros> ok
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# [04:54] <lduros> a few months ago I asked in this chan. Is this _ever_ going to change
# [04:54] <lduros> someone told me no. It's pretty safe..
# [04:54] <lduros> :-(
# [04:54] <lduros> haha
# [04:54] <@khuey> heh
# [04:54] <@khuey> should have written a test for it! :-P
# [04:55] <lduros> well, I have a js_load_observer as well which prevents the execution at the last minute
# [04:55] <lduros> if the script isn't found in a hashmap of scripts
# [04:55] <lduros> so it's still prevented
# [04:55] <lduros> good luck I'm paranoid :D
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# [04:57] <@khuey> lduros: I suspect I know what broke it, and it was pretty recent, but a bug report and testcase would be very useful
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# [04:57] <lduros> yeh, I'm writing it
# [04:57] <lduros> :-)
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# [05:02] <lduros> khuey: how can I add you to the bug >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756715
# [05:02] <capella> Bug 749367 related?
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# [05:03] <@khuey> capella: that's what I'm thinking, yes
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# [05:04] <@khuey> lduros: don't worry about it, I'l ldo it
# [05:04] <lduros> khuey: ok cool
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# [05:05] <@khuey> lduros: hmm
# [05:05] <lduros> I wonder if FF14 and FF13 have the same problem
# [05:05] <@khuey> lduros: doesn't reproduce here
# [05:05] <@khuey> lduros: what version of nightly are you on?
# [05:05] <lduros> 15.0a1 (2012-05-06)
# [05:05] <@khuey> aha
# [05:05] <@khuey> update please :-)
# [05:05] <@khuey> I think capella already fixed this
# [05:05] <lduros> i'm updating
# [05:05] <lduros> ah
# [05:05] <lduros> khuey: it's fixed now
# [05:05] <lduros> :-D
# [05:05] <lduros> with 15.0a1 (2012-05-18)
# [05:06] <lduros> ok, I can recover from my heart attack now
# [05:06] <@khuey> cool
# [05:06] <capella> me too B)
# [05:06] <lduros> thanks much
# [05:06] <lduros> my extension is supposed to block nonfree js and it was running gmail just fine suddenly
# [05:06] <lduros> :-)
# [05:07] <lduros> good grief. Alright then
# [05:07] <@dolske> heaven forbid
# [05:07] * @khuey wonders how much of the JS on the web gets to run with that extension
# [05:07] <@dolske> ooooh, can I guess?
# [05:08] <lduros> about 0.001% currently
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# [05:08] <lduros> but it only takes to give proper license information
# [05:08] <@khuey> higher than I might have guessed :-P
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# [05:09] <lduros> khuey: thanks
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# [05:12] <mbrubeck> \o/ my viewport patch is green
# [05:12] <scientes> GREEN!
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# [05:15] <sicking> khuey: hey, i didn't invent the expression
# [05:15] <sicking> khuey: and you're implementing indexeddb jars by the way
# [05:15] <sicking> :-)
# [05:15] <rniwa> sicking: hi sicking!
# [05:15] <sicking> rniwa: hey!
# [05:16] <rniwa> sicking: i'm about to start another bikeshedding on document.parse thread about whether we should set alreadyStarted flag on script elements or not LOL
# [05:16] <@khuey> sicking: we're going to have to discuss that ;-)
# [05:17] <sicking> rniwa: heh
# [05:17] <rniwa> sicking: my gut tells me we don't want to set alreadyStarted true
# [05:17] <sicking> rniwa: i would prefer not to set it. I don't think we do for createContextualFragment
# [05:17] <rniwa> sicking: because then you can never have script element in the template
# [05:17] <rniwa> sicking: we have a bug to set it true for createContextualFragment in webkit now :(
# [05:18] <rniwa> i'm gonna write a patch to fix that tonight if things go smoothly
# [05:18] <sicking> rniwa: really? We don't set it to true in gecko, do we?
# [05:18] <rniwa> it's super overdue since feb of 2011 :(
# [05:18] <rniwa> sicking: you don't
# [05:18] <rniwa> sicking: i started a thread about on whatwg back in 2010
# [05:18] <sicking> rniwa: so why do you want to set it in webkit to true?
# [05:18] <rniwa> and hixie replied in feb 2011
# [05:18] <rniwa> sicking: it's a bug like i said.
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: but the behavior wasn't really well defined back then
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: since we set it true in innerHTML
# [05:19] <sicking> rniwa: oh, you're saying that you currently set it to true, but you're going to change it to be false?
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: both gecko and webkit
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: right.
# [05:19] <sicking> rniwa: ah, i'm with you now
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: that's the only sane behavior given the spec and following the discussion on whatwg
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: hehe sorry it seems like i confused you.
# [05:19] <Waldo> plus the innerHTML += issue doesn't exist with contextual fragmes
# [05:19] <rniwa> sicking: anyway, because the thread started with discussing about document.innerHTML and document.parse
# [05:19] <Waldo> er, s/s$/nts/
# [05:19] <sicking> Waldo: indeed
# [05:19] <rniwa> i wanted to make it clear which behavior we're going to ake :)
# [05:20] <rniwa> Waldo: right.
# [05:20] <sicking> rniwa: sounds good
# [05:20] <rniwa> Waldo, sicking: but not sure if the use case of parse() match exactly that of createContextualFragment
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# [05:20] <rniwa> on the other hand, we definitely don't want the flag set true in template element's fragment
# [05:20] <RyanVM> philor: I've officially had all I can take of the steaming pile of android for one night
# [05:20] <sicking> rniwa: now if we can only convince hixie and henri to unify parsing for <script> and <style> between SVG and HTML we'll be golden! :)
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# [05:20] <rniwa> sicking: yeah
# [05:20] <rniwa> sicking: i'm fine with defaulting to html version though
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# [05:21] <Waldo> RyanVM: need a support group?
# [05:21] <rniwa> sicking: but i highly doubt it matters in practice
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# [05:21] <rniwa> sicking: i haven't seen a document where people mix html & svg and used svg script element
# [05:21] <sicking> rniwa: currently it's really hard to write scripts that you can move between html and SVG
# [05:21] <RyanVM> Waldo: maybe. Better yet would be testsuites that don't run into infra issues over half the time.
# [05:21] <philor> RyanVM: it'll be much nicer when the constant multiple failures per push of trobocheck3 display differently than the constant multiple failures per push of trobocheck(1)
# [05:21] <Waldo> :-D
# [05:22] <RyanVM> philor: yeah, why doesn't it show as rck3?
# [05:22] <rniwa> sicking: what do you mean by "move between"?
# [05:22] <rniwa> sicking: as in when you parse it inside html vs. svg?
# [05:22] <rniwa> (script elements)
# [05:22] <philor> because ateam thinks that naming of things is entirely tbpl's job, to be done after the fact
# [05:22] <sicking> rniwa: move a <script> tag in the markup from a HTML-part to a SVG part
# [05:22] <rniwa> sicking: right.
# [05:22] <rniwa> sicking: so i don't think we want to add some magic there.
# [05:23] <rniwa> sicking: author needs to be able to tell easily whether it's a svg script element or html script element
# [05:23] <sicking> rniwa: for templates in SVG it'll mean that you have to write your scripts one way when putting a script inside a template inside SVG, and another way when putting script directly in svg
# [05:23] <rniwa> sicking: unless you're saying that we should solve that problem
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# [05:23] <sicking> rniwa: i'm saying that we should have a single unified way to parse <script>, no matter where it appears
# [05:23] <philor> releng adds something, they file a tbpl bug beforehand, and then yell at me if I don't fix it; ateam adds something, I sometimes have 30 minutes of warning, assuming I'm watching all of multiple bmo components, including the one releng one I dont' watch
# [05:24] <rniwa> sicking: oh sure.
# [05:24] <rniwa> sicking: that'll be a huge win.
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# [05:24] <rniwa> sicking: although i suspect it'll be hard
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# [05:24] <sicking> rniwa: hard for whom? Developers or us?
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# [05:26] <RyanVM> philor: anyway, I'm out. Night
# [05:26] <rniwa> sicking: spec-wise
# [05:26] <rniwa> sicking: there's a lot of interop issues with XML :(
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# [05:27] <sicking> rniwa: hard for sure, but not impossible. And a lot easier for authors
# [05:27] <rniwa> sicking: sure. i definitely agree that we should definitely try :)
# [05:27] <rniwa> sicking: i haven't had experience writing scripts inside svg
# [05:28] <rniwa> sicking: but i'm sure i'll get annoyed as hell once i start doing that.
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# [05:39] <rniwa> sicking: btw, one exciting news. with the latest addition of takeRecords to MutationObserver API
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# [05:39] <rniwa> sicking: we can have a list of mutations for each input event :)
# [05:39] <rniwa> sicking: because we can just call takeRecords whenever an input event fires
# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: so that solves almost all use cases we had for editing
# [05:40] <sicking> rniwa: takeRecords clear out the pending records though
# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: yeah
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# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: and that's good
# [05:40] <sicking> rniwa: so you probably don't want to do that automatically, no?
# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: because you want to know DOM mutations happened between two input events
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# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: well for this particular use case, you'll have a special mutation observer
# [05:40] <rniwa> sicking: that listens to all changes in the content editable
# [05:40] <sicking> rniwa: oh, right, it only takes them from that observer
# [05:41] <rniwa> sicking: whenever observer is called, you just addd them to the list somewhere
# [05:41] <rniwa> sicking: right.
# [05:41] <rniwa> sicking: and then when input event fires, you take the pending list and give to whoever is using API
# [05:41] <rniwa> sicking: and clear the list you maintain yourself.
# [05:42] <rniwa> sicking: i think you guys designed this API right :)
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# [05:42] <sicking> rniwa: olli and rafael did
# [05:42] <rniwa> sicking: yeah.
# [05:43] <sicking> i was only there on the sidelines
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# [05:43] <sicking> rniwa: i honestly don't remember enough of the editing API to know if we want to hook into the mutation observers here
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# [05:43] <rniwa> sicking: oh no, we don't need to make any changes
# [05:43] <rniwa> sicking: you can do all of this in js.
# [05:43] <sicking> rniwa: ah, ok
# [05:44] <rniwa> sicking: i'm intending on writing a tiny library for that :)
# [05:44] <rniwa> sicking: it'll be like 200-line sample code.
# [05:44] <rniwa> sicking: that's why i was happy.
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# [05:44] <rniwa> sicking: this API just addressed one important use case without us adding any new APIs for it.
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# [05:45] <rniwa> that rings a bell for success in my dictionary
# [05:45] <sicking> heh
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# [05:49] <rniwa> sicking: btw, we're opening a new cafe in our SF office.
# [05:49] <rniwa> sicking: you guys should visit us sometime :)
# [05:50] <rniwa> it'll be on 6th floor and we'll have some open patios
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# [05:57] * WeirdAl should take an afternoon to visit the SF office, even though he's not a MoCo employee
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# [05:58] <rniwa> WeirdAl: you're more than welcome to :)
# [05:58] <WeirdAl> I just need an appointment first... when I dropped in unexpectedly in MV, I was turned away
# [05:58] <WeirdAl> and I'd love to talk UndoManager spec w/ you anyway
# [05:59] <rniwa> WeirdAl: oh sure.
# [06:00] <rniwa> WeirdAl: fwiw, my intern is starting next week to work on undo manager :D
# [06:00] <WeirdAl> poor bastard :p
# [06:00] <rniwa> hehehe
# [06:00] <rniwa> i'm going to help him :)
# [06:00] <rniwa> it's a bit too much to work on it by himself
# [06:00] <rniwa> on the other hand, the editor implementing a feature by himself is also problematic because then i won't be able to hash out ambiguity, etc... in the spec.
# [06:00] <WeirdAl> well, if you're on site tomorrow, I can stop by for a quick discussion... I'm doing something a little different than most people
# [06:01] <rniwa> WeirdAl: oh yeah?
# [06:01] <WeirdAl> wrt DOM
# [06:01] <rniwa> WeirdAl: oh DOM in JS?
# [06:01] <WeirdAl> yeah - that funny undo mechanism I have which in itself needs no mutations
# [06:01] <rniwa> WeirdAl: i think it's definitely an interesting idea.
# [06:02] <WeirdAl> call undo() and it adjusts a numerical index... done
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# [06:03] <WeirdAl> well, then the only question is when we can get together. I'm free for the foreseeable future (except during weekdays daytime, when my day job keeps me anchored in Oakland)
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# [06:04] <rniwa> WeirdAl: sure. i'm actually free this weekend if you're free. (my gf is in the east coast)
# [06:04] <WeirdAl> -- I also have a tradition of buying a lunch for a fellow Mozillian whose work impacts mine...
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# [06:05] <WeirdAl> bz, khuey, and KaiRo have been prior invitees
# [06:05] <rniwa> ok
# [06:06] <rniwa> please feel free to invite other mozillans if you'd like
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# [09:25] <Callek> philor: ping
# [09:25] <Callek> philor: so, re: self-installing tbpl
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# [09:26] <Callek> philor: I'm getting errors doing the log parsing at http://tbpl.drapostles.org/
# [09:28] <Callek> from my host I see |20120519T031816: tbpl.drapostles.org/php/getSummary.php
# [09:28] <Callek> suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details |
# [09:28] <Callek> in php error log
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# [09:30] <philor> Callek: no idea, sorry
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# [09:32] <Callek> :(
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# [09:39] <Ms2ger> Hmm, Twitter claims to use DNT now
# [09:40] <philor> Callek: and you created whatever directory it was that that version of tbpl wanted, with perms that the webserver can write to?
# [09:40] <Callek> philor: yea, I *just* figured it out, two issues
# [09:41] <Callek> #1 I missed the summaries/ dir
# [09:41] <Callek> and #2 I made php/ over permissive for what my server cared about (777 instead of 755)
# [09:41] <Callek> thanks though!
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# [09:47] <Callek> philor: so in the very very slim chance you care about seamonkey at any given point, Sea TBPL is currently at http://tbpl.drapostles.org :-)
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# [09:48] <philor> sweet, it works!
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# [09:49] <philor> except for some fixed bugs it doesn't have fixed, like the columns thing
# [09:49] <markh> *sigh* Assertion failure: clasp->flags & (1<<5), at o:/src/mm/mozilla-hg/mozilla-central/js/src/gc/Marking.cpp:1126
# [09:50] <Callek> philor: well this is based on an older tbpl of course, since I don't yet have a buildAPI setup working for suite anyway
# [09:50] <philor> Callek: https://bug715434.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=585978 will pretty up the columns in the lower right
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# [09:51] <Callek> philor: thanks :-)
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# [09:51] <Ms2ger> philor, I can explain the comment above that, if you care ;)
# [09:52] <philor> I might, they are screwy
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# [09:54] <Ms2ger> We calculate the number of 40em-wide columns we can put in the available width, and then fill the entire width with that number of columns
# [09:54] <Ms2ger> So unless that width is divisible by 40em, the columns will be wider
# [09:54] <philor> ah!
# [09:56] <philor> simple, make your window the right size, and things will work :)
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# [10:01] <gaston> is it expected for the idl parser to only support PRtypes and not stdint types ?
# [10:01] <Ms2ger> Good night, philor
# [10:01] <Ms2ger> gaston, don't use either :)
# [10:02] <gaston> use jstypes then ? :)
# [10:02] <Ms2ger> IDL has unsigned long (== uint32_t) and friends
# [10:02] <gaston> argh
# [10:02] <gaston> moar types with unknown mappings to stding types \o./
# [10:03] <Ms2ger> Well, they're known
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# [10:03] <gaston> (that's re Bug 755336)
# [10:03] <Ms2ger> The idl compiler translates them into pr* types in C++
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# [10:28] <gaston> error: invalid static_cast from type 'int64_t*' to type 'PRInt64*'
# [10:28] <gaston> ; ;
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# [10:28] <gaston> fucking types
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# [10:32] <Ms2ger> Still not convinced wtc?
# [10:32] <gaston> i gave up
# [10:33] <gaston> 'no one can assume prtypes and stdint types are equivalent'
# [10:33] <gaston> what can you reply to that ?
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> I can
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Because I'm on Linux
# [10:34] <gaston> :)
# [10:34] <gaston> we
# [10:35] <gaston> well i'm going to mark as many bugs as possible blocked by this one
# [10:35] <gaston> maybe that'll raise attention
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# [10:36] <Ms2ger> Last time I needed something from nspr, it turned out to be faster to rewrite my patch on top of mfbt...
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# [11:01] <gaston> i think that's the 10th time i hit build failures because of the int64/int64_t/PRInt64 mess
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> Bah, why do we still have int64
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# [11:28] <Ms2ger> G'day
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# [11:41] <edmorley> good morning :-)
# [11:41] <atuljangra1> edmorley: Good morning :) though it's noon here.
# [11:43] <edmorley> atuljangra1: :-)
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# [11:45] <atuljangra1> edmorley: :)
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# [12:11] <capella> Bug 740688 - Use uintptr_t instead of PRUword, and intptr_t instead of PRWord
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# [12:14] <Ms2ger> Hi Mark :)
# [12:14] <capella> hey!
# [12:15] <capella> "More NSPR craziness dies a painful death." :p
# [12:15] <capella> until we lose the macros this stuff''ll keep creeping in though
# [12:16] <Ms2ger> Yeah... Will be a while until we can get rid of them, though
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# [12:18] <capella> poor gaston :)
# [12:18] <Unfocused> hm, how do i set a preprocessor define in my mozconfig?
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# [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d55df2c9c037 - ffxbld - Automated blocklist update from host linux-ix-slave25
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# [12:29] <NeilAway> khuey|away: isn't that what canconfirm is for?
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# [12:35] <gaston> capella: i'm used to it ....
# [12:35] <capella> gaston: :) was reading the scrollback ... saw all the angst
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# [12:55] <anuaimi> I'm looking at the aurora source. does anyone know if the SPDY code support SPDY proxies?
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# [12:58] <Yoric> getwd has different behavior on BSD and Linux.
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# [13:51] <@smaug> argh, 210 bugmails
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# [14:05] <{V}> anuaimi, yes bug 726366 claims that went in 15 though, so not yet in aurora
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# [14:09] <@smaug> Ms2ger: any updates on removing Attr nodes?
# [14:09] <Ms2ger> No
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# [15:19] <bhackett> can mozilla-beta be reopened?
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# [15:34] <Sebastian> Hi, I'm building Firefox on Windows, and I see a difference in behaviour on http://pseudo-flaw.net/tor/torbutton/browserfeedwriter-error.html compared to an official build
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# [15:35] <Sebastian> in the official build, the output is "found location: "resource:///components/FeedWriter.js"
# [15:35] <Sebastian> in my own build, the local path to FeedWriter.js is returned
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# [15:36] <Sebastian> the .mozconfig I'm using is at http://pastebin.com/dbPgjsZ6
# [15:36] <mbrubeck> Sebastian: That's probably because your build is "unpackaged"
# [15:36] <Sebastian> mbrubeck: what does that mean?
# [15:37] <Sebastian> (and how do I fix it :)
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# [15:38] <mbrubeck> sorry, my conection has been terrible for the past day or so
# [15:39] <Sebastian> no worries, I will pm you the last lines from here
# [15:40] <mbrubeck> There's a separate "make package" step that's done for official builds, but we don't usually do it when building and running the app locally. I'm not sure if that's related to your problem; just my first guess.
# [15:40] <mbrubeck> Although my guess would make more sense if you were talking about the path to a file from the Firefox source, rather than an extension file.
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# [15:41] <Sebastian> I am
# [15:41] <Sebastian> FeedWriter is part of Firefox, I think.
# [15:41] <Sebastian> found location: "file:///c:/build/firefox-12.0/obj-i686-pc-mingw32/dist/bin/components/FeedWriter.js"
# [15:41] <Sebastian> this is the output I get from my own build
# [15:41] <mbrubeck> okay, cool
# [15:42] <Sebastian> I do not get the same behaviour on OSX nor linux, by the way
# [15:42] <Sebastian> so it seems to be windows specific
# [15:42] <mbrubeck> You could try running "make installer" in your obj-* dir to create a Windows installer
# [15:42] <mbrubeck> then see if it's different if you run the installer.
# [15:43] <mbrubeck> Is this change breaking something, or are you just curious about it?
# [15:43] <mbrubeck> Some docs, though they don't explain much: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Build_and_Install
# [15:44] <Sebastian> This is a problem for us, because it means websites get to learn where the user put their firefox
# [15:44] <cers> I'm trying to debug some js in XUL, more specifically, I'd like to inspect some XUL DOM objects the script handles - but I'm not sure how to do this - passing them to console.log just writes [object XULElement] and doesn't allow me to expand it
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# [15:45] <mbrubeck> cers: One trick that sometimes helps is "console.log(JSON.stringify(someElement))"
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# [15:49] <cers> (in case anyone answered me, my lovely ISP decided to disconnect me)
# [15:49] <mbrubeck> cers: One trick that sometimes helps is "console.log(JSON.stringify(someElement))"
# [15:49] <cers> mbrubeck: thanks - I'll try that :-)
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# [15:50] <Sebastian> hrm. Not sure how I can actually run make installer there
# [15:50] <Sebastian> oh
# [15:50] <Sebastian> I guess I need the mozbuild environment
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# [15:52] <cers> mbrubeck: it seems that won't work: TypeError: cyclic object value
# [15:53] <mbrubeck> :(
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# [15:55] <Sebastian> mbrubeck: ok that fixes it
# [15:56] <Sebastian> :(
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# [15:59] <Sebastian> mbrubeck: looks like you were spot on. Now I wonder how to prevent this behaviour without installing ff
# [15:59] <mbrubeck> Sebastian: So, if you don't want this information to leak to websites, it sounds like you should either distribute packaged/installer builds, or make sure that whatever returns that path is not exposed to unprivileged scripts.
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# [16:00] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: don't ask
# [16:01] <mbrubeck> don't tell?
# [16:02] <Sebastian> yeah, I suspect we'll need a custom patch here... Firefox has that path in a javascript exception when an internal error occurs
# [16:02] <NeilAway> well, just patch the methods not to throw?
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# [16:03] <mbrubeck> I suspect you can make the build "packaged" without building the full installer, but I don't know enough about it to know how.
# [16:03] <NeilAway> what about the other objects, such as window.external?
# [16:03] <NeilAway> mbrubeck: probably 'make package'
# [16:03] <mbrubeck> yeah
# [16:04] <mbrubeck> Not sure what that produces on Windows, but that would be my guess too.
# [16:04] <RyanVM> make package puts everything in dist/firefox and creates the zip file
# [16:04] <RyanVM> I use it on my own builds :)
# [16:04] <Sebastian> heh
# [16:04] <Sebastian> I will try that then!
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# [16:08] <Sebastian> yay!
# [16:08] <Sebastian> thanks so much guys!
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# [16:11] <ewong> anyone know where I can have a peek at the self serve api code?
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# [16:22] <ewong> ah nvm.. found it at hg.mozilla.org/build/buildapi
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# [16:36] <IanN> who is good on RFC 952 and RFC 921 ?
# [16:38] <Ms2ger> Not it
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# [16:42] <NeilAway> wait, do I really run nspr-config every time I compile something?
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# [17:05] <cers> is there a way to make the developer console not do the increase counter on message thing, and just print the message (again)?
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# [17:10] <KWierso> cers: I don't think so?
# [17:10] <cers> KWierso: how unfortunate :-S I guess I'll move to using dump instead then
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# [17:16] <RyanVM> where is SeaMonkey's tbpl these days?
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# [17:17] * zzzzz_ highjacked by Somali Pirates ?
# [17:18] <mbrubeck> I only know http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey
# [17:18] <philor> RyanVM: http://tbpl.drapostles.org/
# [17:18] <mbrubeck> ooh, pretty colors
# [17:19] <philor> perhaps a little heavy on the red, like old-lady-lipstick
# [17:19] <RyanVM> philor: just where I would have thought to look for it, thanks
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# [17:46] <allison> I am just starting to debug the Nightly build, I am using gdb but not having success
# [17:46] <allison> I built with ac_add_options --enable-debug
# [17:46] <allison> when setting breakpoints, I get "No source file name <filename>" even though the file is there
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# [17:46] <allison> any thoughts?
# [17:48] <mbrubeck> allison: What OS and debugger?
# [17:49] <allison> Mac OSX 10.7.3, gdb 6.3.50-20050815
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# [17:49] <allison> open to using a different debugger if there are suggestions
# [17:51] <mbrubeck> allison: When the browser is running under gdb and you press control-C to interrupt it and then "bt" for a backtrace, do you get filenames and function names in the backtrace?
# [17:51] <allison> I'll check
# [17:52] <mbrubeck> (I have no real idea what might be wrong; just trying to think of things to check...)
# [17:53] <allison> will have to log out to check
# [17:53] <allison> brb
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# [17:56] <allison> bt shows function names and filenames
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# [17:57] <mbrubeck> allison: Now if you try setting a breakpoint using one of the filenames you see there, does it give the same error?
# [17:58] <mbrubeck> If you originally tried to set the breakpoint before the program started running, it might be that it hadn't loaded that code yet...
# [17:58] <allison> yes, same error
# [17:58] <mbrubeck> :(
# [17:58] <allison> yes, trying to start before running
# [17:58] <allison> how do I set once already running?
# [17:58] <mbrubeck> You can interrupt the program with control-C and then set the breakpoint, then type "c" (for continue)
# [17:59] <allison> great, i'll give that a try
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# [17:59] <mbrubeck> I guess she's using mibbit from within the browser she's debugging. :O
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# [18:01] <allison> ok, that works for some files
# [18:01] <allison> can you set breakpoints in javascript?
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# [18:04] <mbrubeck> allison: Not really, though the team in #devtools is working an a JS debugger that works on Firefox's internal JS code.
# [18:04] <allison> any suggestions for debugging javascript code?
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# [18:05] <mbrubeck> allison: I mostly use printf debugging using the dump() function (which should print messages to the terminal in debug builds) or the "debugger;" statement which prints a stack dump
# [18:06] <allison> ok
# [18:06] <mbrubeck> There's also Components.utils.reportError(message) which prints its message to Firefox's JS console.
# [18:06] <mbrubeck> There's a JS debugger called Chromebug that used to (?) work for debugging Firefox code, but I don't think it works in any recent versions: http://blog.getfirebug.com/category/chromebug/
# [18:07] <mbrubeck> (I've never used it.)
# [18:07] <RyanVM> ok, I'm stepping away from bugzilla for awhile
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# [18:11] <RyanVM> BenWa: Sorry, but I swear it wasn't me breaking it
# [18:11] <BenWa> RyanVM: No problem. The emails were coming over a several minute window so it looked intential
# [18:12] <RyanVM> Bas: See above ^
# [18:12] <BenWa> I know bugzilla can be quirky sometimes
# [18:12] <RyanVM> i was seeing duplicate dependencies in a lot of bugs too
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# [18:14] <BenWa> Yea, I saw that this morning with omtagif. I fixed
# [18:14] <BenWa> weird cause I think they have hooks to prevent that
# [18:15] <RyanVM> just happened to fwang on another bug too
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# [18:43] <jwir3> when would I use nsAutoString as opposed to nsDependentCString?
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# [18:44] <NeilAway> jwir3: those are completely different classes
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# [18:44] <NeilAway> jwir3: nsAutoString is a local variable to hold an array of PRUnichar
# [18:44] <jwir3> NeilAway: So nsDependentString/nsDependentCString is used for converting from const char*, right?
# [18:45] <NeilAway> jwir3: nsDependentCString is used to wrap const char* into const nsCString, yes
# [18:45] <jwir3> why would I use nsString vs. nsCString?
# [18:45] <NeilAway> jwir3: well, it can be non-const, but I don't know who would use it that way
# [18:45] <NeilAway> jwir3: nsString is PRUnichar
# [18:48] <jwir3> NeilAway++
# [18:48] <jwir3> thanks
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# [18:48] <Bas> RyanVM: Hey, no problem :)
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# [18:48] <RyanVM> Bas: don't know what bmo's problem was this morning
# [18:48] <Bas> I figured it was an accident, just added the argumentation just in case.
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# [18:54] <jviereck> smaug: hi, have you seen my problem with adding a WebProgressListener to the cloned document? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568#c58
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# [18:54] <jviereck> smaug: I'm wondering why the loads happen not in the docShell that gets created and the reflow is called on
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# [18:57] <@smaug> jviereck: hmm, which "docshell that gets created"
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# [18:57] <@smaug> jviereck: ah
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# [18:58] <@smaug> jviereck: see nsDocument::CloneDocHelper
# [18:58] <@smaug> jviereck: we take the original loadgroup and put it to the clone
# [18:58] <RyanVM> and now bhackett got bit
# [18:58] <@smaug> that could could be changed
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# [19:01] <jwir3> when I'm printing, is there a way to get firefox to show table header backgrounds and borders?
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# [19:02] <RyanVM> who should we be contacting about the bmo issues?
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# [19:02] <@smaug> jwir3: there are some prefs for background pringing
# [19:02] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: File a bug? :)
# [19:02] <mbrubeck> !seen glob
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# [19:03] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Maybe #it
# [19:03] <@smaug> jwir3: at least on linux in the print dialog
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# [19:03] <jwir3> smaug: Interesting. I don't get that in windows
# [19:04] <jviereck> smaug: awesome, I look into it
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# [19:23] <RyanVM> philor: is there a way to kill zombie pending jobs?
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# [19:23] <RyanVM> philor: (ones pending for over a day now)
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# [19:32] <jviereck> smaug: can you give me some more guidence how to get the load groups right? I'm pritty confused with all these doc/presShell/Context
# [19:32] <jviereck> stuff
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# [19:34] <philor> RyanVM: sometimes yes, sometimes no, but those aren't just junk to kill, those are blockers holding two trees closed
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# [19:34] <RyanVM> interesting
# [19:34] <philor> ayuh
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# [19:35] <@smaug> jviereck: could you pass the loadgroup of the docshell which is used print preview to the clones?
# [19:36] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, adding some deps?
# [19:36] <@smaug> and if you're printing, you may need to create a new loadgroup
# [19:36] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: bug 756790
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# [19:36] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: trust nothing with respect to dependencies right now
# [19:36] <@smaug> since there isn't necessarily a docshell, IIRC
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# [19:37] <Ms2ger> Nice
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# [19:38] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: so yes, trying to fix things as they break themselves
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# [19:50] <jviereck> smaug: "could you pass the loadgroup of the docshell which is used print preview to the clones?" << I guess so, but how do I get the load group from the docshell and set it on the aPO->mDocument :/?
# [19:50] <jviereck> guess the answer is easy, but I don't get it
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# [19:51] <@smaug> jviereck: there is the docshell which contains the topmost document for print preview
# [19:52] <@smaug> change the cloning or some so that the new document get the loadgroup of that docshell
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# [19:53] <jviereck> smaug: mDocument->SetLoadGroup(mDocShell->GetLoadGroup());, but there are no SetLoadGroup or GetLoadGroup functions
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# [19:54] <@smaug> jviereck: nsIDocument::CreateStaticClone may need to call Reset to pass the right loadgroup to the document
# [19:54] <@smaug> Reset or ResetToURI
# [19:54] <@smaug> similar to nsDocument::CloneDocHelper
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# [19:55] <jviereck> smaug: how do I get the load group from the docShell?
# [19:55] <evilpie_> rule of thumb: in every new function we introduce were are eventually going to crash
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# [20:19] <jviereck> is there a way to see all the functions that nsDocShell implement?
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# [20:22] <jaws> anybody see this build failure with pymake recently? i clobbered my obj-dir and am still getting it: http://jaws.pastebin.mozilla.org/1646368
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# [20:22] <jaws> my last resort is to reclone
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# [20:26] <WG9s> jaws: I would think that is the next to the last resort. last resort would be to go back to not using pymake. ;-)
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# [20:27] <RyanVM> jaws: that's a new one for me
# [20:28] <RyanVM> jaws: though I haven't been using pymake for awhile due to pgo bustage
# [20:30] <WG9s> I don;t use pymake either and i don;t remember what the issue was that prevented me from using it the last time i tried (which was aobut a month ago) kind of shows you that us over 60 folk have no real memeory.
# [20:31] <WG9s> all i rmember is that it wasw either no faster or i ran into an issue that i did not have using make.
# [20:31] <WG9s> last time i had aprrelel makes working correctly under windows was when we were building using cygwin.
# [20:32] <WG9s> and my feelinhg is this is some incvompatibility between msys and the sindows anti-virus hooks cuase it all works if i disable the AV stuff.
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# [20:33] <WG9s> oh also an issue i never had on other than a multi-core amd processor running 64-bit windows.
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> 'I would like gmail to stop identifying my Camino as "an older version of Firefox"'
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> Camino uses Gecko 1.9.2.
# [20:34] <jaws> is it expected for me to see Ms2ger's name in my build directories?
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> I'd agree with gmail
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> jaws, yes
# [20:34] <jaws> k
# [20:35] <Ms2ger> Under dom/imptests, at least
# [20:35] <jaws> yes
# [20:35] <jaws> that's right near where my build is failing though, that's why i ask
# [20:35] <jst> Ms2ger: you're to blame for the stuff in that directory? :)
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> jst, the one with my name on it? Yes
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> Those are tests I wrote
# [20:36] <jst> Ms2ger: I didn't have a chance to look into it yet, but late last night my build was failing in that directory due to what looks like a makefile bug
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# [20:37] <jaws> last night i ran `make clean` from my obj-dir and it spawned close to 5000 processes.
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# [20:37] <jaws> jst: hey, me too :)
# [20:37] <jst> jaws: did you file a bug yet? (I didn't)
# [20:37] <jaws> i didn't either, i came here to see if it was known or not
# [20:38] <jst> jaws: dom/imptests/editor or somesuch?
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# [20:38] <jaws> jst, http://jaws.pastebin.mozilla.org/1646368
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# [20:38] <Ms2ger> Editor is AryehGregor's fault
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# [20:39] <jst> jaws: what I saw was slightly different, but it looked like the path to rules.mk was the culprit here as well
# [20:39] <Ms2ger> Hmm
# [20:39] <jst> jaws: IOW, please file a bug :)
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# [20:40] <Ms2ger> jaws, please cc AryehGregor, me and :jhammel
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# [20:42] <jst> jaws: also, I saw the problem on linux here, so it doesn't seem limited to pymake or whatnot
# [20:42] <WeirdAl> heh, rniwa would pick a bar right by the Giants ballpark on an A's-Giants baseball game day
# [20:43] <jaws> bug filed: d55df2c9c037
# [20:43] <jaws> fail...
# [20:43] <jaws> here's the link: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756808
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# [20:44] <Ms2ger> jst, hmm, weren't you going to blog?
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# [20:44] <jst> Ms2ger: I was?
# [20:44] <jst> Ms2ger: about what?
# [20:44] <Ms2ger> I don't remember
# [20:45] <jst> Ms2ger: last I remember about saying I'd blog about stuff was re the bindings work, which I did
# [20:45] <jst> but that was a while ago now
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# [20:46] <mbrubeck> Time to back out bhackett?
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> There is "no way" it can be his fault
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> jst, I guess that was it
# [20:48] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: words that live in infamy, of course
# [20:49] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: it's slow enough today that I don't mind him attempting to fix in place
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# [20:55] <RyanVM> epic hilarity: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=ab3f805f3210&jobname=remote-trobocheck3
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# [20:57] <Ms2ger> templates--
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# [21:00] <Ms2ger> :)
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# [21:30] <jviereck> if
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> then
# [21:31] <jviereck> if |mDocShell| is an nsIDocShell, does this make sense?
# [21:31] <jviereck> SetContainernsCOMPtr<nsILoadGroup> loadGroup;
# [21:31] <jviereck> nsCOMPtr<nsIDocumentLoader> docLoader = do_QueryInterface(mDocShell);
# [21:31] <jviereck> docLoader->GetLoadGroup(getter_AddRefs(loadGroup));
# [21:31] <jviereck> sorry, not used to this UK keyboards
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# [21:32] <Ms2ger> Apparently not
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# [21:32] <jviereck> Ms2ger: I can't really say if this is what's broken or not :/
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# [21:34] <Ms2ger> Aha
# [21:35] <JonathanS> MS dropped Aero Glass in Windows 8.
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# [21:35] <Ms2ger> jviereck, do_GetInterface
# [21:35] <NeilAway> JonathanS: great, that means SeaMonkey doesn't have to bother supporting it ;-)
# [21:35] <jviereck> NeilAway: I have an US keyboard ;)
# [21:35] <Ms2ger> That should get you there
# [21:35] <JonathanS> NeilAway. :P
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# [21:36] <jviereck> Ms2ger: what's the difference between do_GetInterface and do_QueryInterface?
# [21:36] <Ms2ger> One calls QueryInterface, the other calls GetInterface
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# [21:36] <Ms2ger> Hmm, actually
# [21:37] <jviereck> and what's the difference between Query- and GetInterface?
# [21:37] <Ms2ger> I'm wrong, QI should work too
# [21:39] <Ms2ger> GI can return whatever object it wants, QI should roughly return |this|
# [21:39] <Ms2ger> AIUI
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# [21:53] <RyanVM> philor: YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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# [21:58] <jviereck> Ms2ger: I pass this
# [21:58] <jviereck> grrr, keyboard...
# [21:59] <jviereck> I pass this |nsIDocShell| to a function that takes an |nsISupports*| as argument. Then I do
# [21:59] <jviereck> nsCOMPtr<nsIDocShell> cloneDocShell = do_QueryInterface(aCloneContainer);
# [21:59] <jviereck> printf("nsIDocument::CreateStaticClone - docShell %p\n", &cloneDocShell);
# [22:00] <jviereck> but then the address I get from this printf is not the same as the address I got when doing a prinf on the |nsIDocShell| object before sending it to the function
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# [22:00] <Ms2ger> Nearby, though?
# [22:00] <mauke> (technically invalid C since %p requires void *)
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# [22:00] <jviereck> Cloning doc from mDocShell 0x10898be80 - loadGroup 0x7fff5fbfb278
# [22:00] <jviereck> nsIDocument::CreateStaticClone - docShell 0x7fff5fbfb1b8
# [22:00] <jviereck> 0x10898be80 -> 0x7fff5fbfb1b8
# [22:01] <Ms2ger> Eh
# [22:01] <jviereck> :'(
# [22:02] <Ms2ger> Er, wait
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# [22:02] <Ms2ger> &cloneDocShell
# [22:02] <Ms2ger> That's your issue
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# [22:02] <Ms2ger> You want cloneDocShell.get()
# [22:02] <jviereck> ahh!
# [22:02] <jviereck> the .get() returns the "raw" pointer?
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# [22:03] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [22:04] <RyanVM> philor: in light of the bug you filed, I'm not going to retrigger rck3 anymore
# [22:05] <jviereck> Cloning doc from mDocShell 0x10898be80 - loadGroup 0x7fff5fbfb278
# [22:05] <jviereck> nsIDocument::CreateStaticClone - docShell 0x109168908
# [22:06] <jviereck> Ms2ger: that's closer now, but still not the same - or is that all right?
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# [22:07] <Ms2ger> Can you pastebin your code?
# [22:07] <jviereck> Ms2ger: yeah, would be cool if you could look at it - I feel pritty lost here
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# [22:08] <jviereck> Ms2ger: https://gist.github.com/2732236
# [22:09] <jviereck> the first printf comes from here: https://gist.github.com/2732236#L451
# [22:10] <jviereck> then the nsIDocument::CreateStaticClone function is called and the next printf is here: https://gist.github.com/2732236#L90
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# [22:12] <Ms2ger> Weird
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# [22:18] <Ms2ger> jviereck, no idea :(
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# [22:20] <jviereck> Ms2ger: okay. guess I leave a comment in the bug then and see if someone has an idea what to do here
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# [22:26] <WG9s> jviereck: well just sayin' but having included what bug you were talking about in this conversation might have resulted in better responses.
# [22:28] <jviereck> WG9s: sorry, that's bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568 — I try to do the work described in comment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468568#c61 right now
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# [22:29] <WG9s> jviereck: ah this is a bug I am actually interseted in, but could not figure that out from the conversation up to this point.
# [22:30] <WG9s> unfortunately, so far I have not been particularly successful in firuging out how to fix it.
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# [22:31] <jviereck> WG9s: it doesn't look to hard, but right now I'm lost on changing the loadGroups to use the ones of the docShell used in preview — right now all the resources are loaded using the loadGroup of the original document, which works, but makes it hard to listen if all the requests needed for printing have finished
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# [22:42] <jviereck> hey, seems like I got it working :)
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# [22:56] <jviereck> what's the best way to see if all resources are loaded already - check nsDocLoader::IsBusy?
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# [23:30] <evilpie> duplicate bug dependencies ... !
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# [23:44] <jviereck> what's the best way to check if all loads in a loadGroup/nsDocLoader are done? IsBusy shouldn't be used anymore if I see that right in the docs
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# [23:47] <RyanVM> evilpie: and look to make sure you didn't inadvertently clear the dependencies
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