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- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:02] <jviereck> can someone tell me how to change the loadGroup for loading background images?
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- # [00:57] * NeilAway assumes jviereck found .get() works with nsCString too
- # [00:57] <jviereck> NeilAway: I just ignored the problem and went on...
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- # [00:57] <jviereck> I think I tried nsACString that then it didn't worked - but don't remember anymore
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- # [00:58] <evilpie> RyanVM: what is the meaning of "a;r" ?
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- # [00:58] <Unfocused> pirate typo
- # [00:59] <RyanVM> android infra; restarted (as explained to me by philor)
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- # [01:03] <evilpie> RyanVM: mhm okay thanks
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- # [01:10] <beboki> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/security/manager/ssl/src/nsSDR.cpp#88 - why PK11SlotInfoCleaner is not clickable? where is it defined?
- # [01:10] <mbrubeck> beboki: Because MXR is not always smart enough; you can do a plain-text search instead: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=PK11SlotInfoCleaner
- # [01:11] <mbrubeck> That doesn't exactly answer the second question, though...
- # [01:11] <beboki> mbrubeck: I did, and I still don't know where it is defined :)
- # [01:11] <Unfocused> heh
- # [01:12] <beboki> looks like there is some black magic involved here somewhere... during building maybe, or sth? anyone knows this crypto code?
- # [01:13] <mbrubeck> beboki: http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSCertificateDB.cpp.html#l85
- # [01:13] <mbrubeck> DXR is smarter. :)
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- # [01:15] <beboki> OK, defined through macro... thanks, mbrubeck.
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- # [01:20] <beboki> this DXR thing is really cool indeed. thanks for a link.
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- # [01:58] <jviereck> what does it mean if FF crash with "Segmentation fault: 11"?
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- # [02:12] <scientes> can someone push the first two patches on bug 747257 to the try server for me?
- # [02:12] <scientes> if they pass that i think they are ready to land
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- # [02:12] <scientes> also they need --enable-gstreamer if the try server don't use that
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- # [02:29] <RyanVM> didn't tbpl used to have a link to the ftp directory for a build?
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- # [02:38] <zzzzz> yeah, but it was tricky to get to - and I don't know if I recall the steps :P
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- # [02:41] <zzzzz> damn, don't remember
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- # [02:42] <zzzzz> what is this not responding BS opening a log :P
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- # [05:01] <nigelb> anyone around with firefox beta on android. I want help reproducing a bug.
- # [05:02] <rnewman> nigelb: what's up?
- # [05:03] <nigelb> rnewman: can you hit, input.mozilla.org from beta and try to submit feedback?
- # [05:03] <nigelb> I have a bug that seems to say that it doesn't let you submit feedback.
- # [05:03] <rnewman> checking
- # [05:03] <nigelb> Thanks!
- # [05:05] <rnewman> submitted a "Firefox made me happy", "testing for nigelb"
- # [05:05] <rnewman> did have to click "Learn more", "Submit feedback for your version of Firefox"
- # [05:05] <rnewman> there was no feedback link on input.mo
- # [05:06] <nigelb> rnewman: were you on m.input.mo?
- # [05:06] <rnewman> no, and I'm using Phony
- # [05:07] <nigelb> Wait, what's phony?
- # [05:07] <rnewman> I kinda forget that mobile sites exist
- # [05:07] <rnewman> because I hate them
- # [05:07] <nigelb> lol
- # [05:07] <rnewman> it's an addon that allows me to spoof my UA
- # [05:07] <rnewman> as desktop
- # [05:07] <nigelb> ah
- # [05:07] <rnewman> probably the most popular mobile addon
- # [05:07] <rnewman> for that reason
- # [05:07] <nigelb> :)
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- # [05:08] <rnewman> m.input has no input option
- # [05:08] <nigelb> rnewman: m.input.m.o/feedback
- # [05:09] <rnewman> newer, older, statistics, settings, search
- # [05:09] <rnewman> ah
- # [05:09] <rnewman> yeah, worked
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- # [05:09] <nigelb> okay, so this bug is unreproducible. bah.
- # [05:10] <rnewman> but of course, still spoofing ua
- # [05:10] <nigelb> I did a wget with fennec ua.
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- # [06:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ed488f577c84 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 733553 - Allow multipart image streams to cope with stream changes. r=joe
- # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/32cfab3a6aa5 - Brian Hackett - Use handles in API object hooks where possible, bug 750733. r=billm
- # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0e2cc686b07b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
- # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f1c93b5b549 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 733553 - Tests for multipart streams via mochitest-plain using httpd.js. r=joe
- # [06:26] <philor> nice, if you push aurora to try, the minimum expected outcome is 34 orange Android tests from branding, and 11 spuriously red builds from tooltool
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- # [06:52] <rnewman> man, I love our tests
- # [06:53] <cpearce> when the topic says "m-c > 17422a2d0c70 needs CLOBBER", that means locally we need to clobber to build??
- # [06:54] <Callek> cpearce: yes. :(
- # [06:54] <philor> nope, it means you need to clobber to run, um, mochitest-2
- # [06:54] <Callek> locally or any branches you pull m-c to
- # [06:54] <Callek> philor: ooo hrm, was I extra-confused
- # [06:54] <cpearce> make clean && make distclean won't suffice?
- # [06:55] <cpearce> what a pain.
- # [06:55] * Callek changes topic to 'm-c > 17422a2d0c70 needs CLOBBER || pymake bustage fixed in bug 755277 || Next uplift for Fx15: 2012-06-05 || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
- # [06:56] <philor> well, Ed merged it to m-c without successfully clobbering, and the only effect was 30K mochitest-2 failures on the platforms that didn't happen to clobber, so I don't think I'd clobber until I actually needed to, unless I was merging to another branch
- # [06:56] <philor> or running mochitests locally, but who does that?
- # [06:57] <cpearce> Pretty sure everyone does that. It's just that local mochitests perform differently to tinberbox mochitests.
- # [06:57] <philor> and even then, you could just rm testrunnerwhosits.js from your objdir
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- # [06:59] <philor> well, no, the problem was replacing dom/imptests/testharnessreport.js.in with dom/imptests/testharnessreport.js, which causes you to not get the preprocessed version in your objdir replaced with the new version, so you don't have the new version which knows how to run those extra 30K tests
- # [07:00] <cpearce> hmm, no the problem I'm seeing is a local build failure, not a test failure.
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- # [07:03] <philor> that'd be different, then
- # [07:05] <philor> perhaps bug 756808?
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- # [09:07] <AryehGregor> /mnt/extra/checkouts/mozilla-central/editor/libeditor/text/nsPlaintextEditor.cpp:444:1: error: control reaches end of non-void function [-Werror=return-type]
- # [09:07] <AryehGregor> No it doesn't, I have a switch statement that handles all three possible enum values. :(
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- # [09:11] <squib> is anyone here having trouble updating dependencies on BMO?
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- # [09:19] <KWierso|outoftown> squib: I've seen a number of comments from people in bugmail where dependencies are getting wiped out
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- # [09:20] <squib> KWierso: yeah, that's what i was experiencing. i think i fixed it on the bug i munged up though, so maybe the problem went away?
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- # [09:31] <AryehGregor> I just updated a bug and a dependency was lost.
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- # [09:33] <KWierso> AryehGregor: what other fields did you touch?
- # [09:33] <AryehGregor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742240#c19
- # [09:33] <AryehGregor> Target Milestone, Flags. The bug that got incorrectly removed has an alias, if that helps.
- # [09:34] <nigelb> I don't understand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756762#c7
- # [09:34] <nigelb> Is that Fennec or Android's default browser there?
- # [09:35] <Unfocused> pretty sure that's androids browser
- # [09:35] <KWierso> nigelb: looks like the android default (or at least some webkit-based browser) to me
- # [09:36] <nigelb> KWierso: The bug feels like mild troll at this point then.
- # [09:36] <Unfocused> though, he could be using a user-agent switcher addon, which is more common on mobile
- # [09:36] <nigelb> Oh.
- # [09:36] <nigelb> I should ask that.
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- # [09:57] <KWierso> AryehGregor: I don't think anyone's filed a bug about this yet, want to file one?
- # [09:57] <AryehGregor> KWierso, not particularly.
- # [09:58] <KWierso> (you could point to what happened to RyanVM in bug 598873, bug 577867, and 597911)
- # [09:58] <smontagu> I don't know if it's the same bug or related, but I notice that all the dependencies of bug 627842 appear twice
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- # [09:59] <KWierso> smontagu: bug 756790?
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- # [10:00] <smontagu> "bug has alias" seems to be a common factor here
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- # [10:00] <KWierso> AryehGregor: disregard, looks like that is this bug :)
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- # [11:26] <NeilAway> I like how the hg log of 17422a2d0c70 shows one set of files as being changed and then gives you the diffs from a different set of files
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- # [12:16] <Fallen> how do I make bugzilla show me all bugs where the depends on field is empty? I tried "Depends On" "is equal to" "" but that doesn't seem to work
- # [12:20] <zzzzz_> Fallen: DEPND IS BROKEN i THINK https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756790
- # [12:20] <zzzzz_> oops
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- # [12:24] <Fallen> oh boy, everything I want to do today seems to be broken
- # [12:26] <darktrojan> I thought you were away
- # [12:28] <Fallen> I am, in Thailand :-)
- # [12:28] <Fallen> I should be on vacation more often though, I got a lot of good things done here :-)
- # [12:29] <darktrojan> heh
- # [12:29] <darktrojan> most people try not to work on vacation
- # [12:30] <Fallen> My loving wife told me I should take my laptop :-)
- # [12:31] <Fallen> btw: I was able to get depends field empty with "Depends on" "matches regular expression" "[0-9]+" and then clicking the negate checkbox
- # [12:31] <darktrojan> ew
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- # [12:32] <darktrojan> I thought there was a "is blank" but I was wrong
- # [12:32] <darktrojan> glob: fix it
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- # [12:35] <Fallen> there are some bugs like bug 345194 open for is empty
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- # [12:36] <Fallen> there seems to be something strange with the depends on field though, because the usual trick of "matches regex" "^$" doesn't work, nor does "does not match regex" "[0-9]+"
- # [12:38] <darktrojan> it's probably implemented as a table instead of a string field
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- # [12:44] <Fallen> I wonder why the matches regex and negate trick works then?
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- # [13:02] <deLta30> I am trying to develope an addon using jetpack. It works with latest firefox but not with a nightly build.
- # [13:02] <deLta30> Does anyone know what might be the issue?
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- # [13:12] <NeilAway> bah, the dep deletion bug sucks
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- # [13:13] <Ms2ger> #if defined(DEBUG_ftang)
- # [13:18] * smontagu likes #ifdef DEBUG_crap better
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- # [13:34] <jviereck> how do I check if there is something on an nsCOMPtr?
- # [13:34] <jviereck> if I do | if (mLoadTimer) {|, this evaluates to true, although I never assigned something to |mLoadTimer| execpt doing |mLoadTimer(nsnull)| during the construction
- # [13:34] <atuljangra> jviereck: May be you can refer to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_nsCOMPtr
- # [13:36] <jviereck> thx!
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- # [15:14] <@smaug> pdf.js is just great
- # [15:15] <@smaug> I don't hate pdf files anymore
- # [15:15] <{V}> that good is it?
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- # [15:20] <AryehGregor> Chrome's equivalent is that good, I know that. At least by now. Initially it had lots of bugs.
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- # [15:20] <@smaug> Chrome's equivalent isn't open source
- # [15:20] <@smaug> so chromium doesn't have it
- # [15:21] <@smaug> but anyhow, interesting that Adobe hasn't managed to create a good enough pdf plugin
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- # [15:23] <jviereck> smaug: ping
- # [15:23] <@smaug> jviereck: hello
- # [15:24] <jviereck> smaug: do you have a bit - I need some help how to continue with the implementation - not sure I'm doing things the right way :/
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- # [15:25] <@smaug> jviereck: I'll be online for some time now yes
- # [15:26] <@smaug> afk occasionally for few minutes though
- # [15:26] <@smaug> so, just ask the questions :)
- # [15:26] <jviereck> smaug: I go the WebProgressListener working for font loads (images still load in the wrong loadGroup…). What's the best way to determ if all loads required for the page have finished loading? I would listen to the WebProgress callback, count the number of requests starting and the ones that finish and once they counter hits zero, I assume all resources are loaded
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- # [15:26] <@smaug> doesn't loadgroup have the listener
- # [15:27] <jviereck> smaug: listener that all loads have finished?
- # [15:27] <@smaug> groupObserver
- # [15:28] <@smaug> there is also isPending() method, but I'm not sure how that works with loadgroups
- # [15:28] <jviereck> smaug: in addition, should there be a small timeout before continue printing in case that another request get started after the counter became zero? Maybe also Gecko needs to do some other stuff first (like creating the actual platform font) that happen after the network has finished
- # [15:28] <@smaug> would have to look at the source code
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- # [15:28] <@smaug> well, timeout shouldn't be needed, but perhaps a runnable
- # [15:29] <jviereck> what is a runnable?
- # [15:29] <nigelb> Gah. I think I pissed a user off :/
- # [15:30] <@smaug> ah, nsLoadGroup::IsPending is for foreground only
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- # [15:31] <@smaug> jviereck: runnable is something you can dispatch to a thread (in this case main thread), and when thread's event loop spins, runnable's Run method is called
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- # [15:32] <@smaug> effectively async method call
- # [15:32] <@smaug> hmm, nsIRequestObserver is also for foreground requests
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- # [15:32] <@smaug> biesi and bz would remember more about loadgroup.
- # [15:32] <@smaug> but the source code looks pretty simple fortunately
- # [15:33] <jviereck> I don't get why you want to do an async call instead of an timeout
- # [15:33] <Ms2ger> Eww, timeouts ;)
- # [15:34] <@smaug> jviereck: because there shouldn't be need to timeout
- # [15:34] <@smaug> and what timeout value
- # [15:34] <@smaug> 10ms? 1000ms?
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- # [15:35] <jviereck> I know that timeouts are a bad thing - but I don't understand how runnable will solve the problem
- # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Magic
- # [15:35] <jviereck> runnable = run a task in a different thread, right?
- # [15:35] <jviereck> Ms2ger: why do I get the feeling Gecko is all about Magic?
- # [15:36] <Ms2ger> Because that's the way it is.
- # [15:36] <Ms2ger> Sorry.
- # [15:36] <Ms2ger> And because IE and Netscape
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- # [15:36] <KaiRo> if any JS devs are around, someone landed a heavily crashing JS change on Friday, see bug 756796 (and bug 756797), would be really really nice if someone could take a look at what's wrong there
- # [15:37] <@smaug> nothing magic with runnables
- # [15:38] <@smaug> common thing with any event loop based software
- # [15:38] <@smaug> jviereck: so, if there is reason for something to be async, use runnable
- # [15:38] <@smaug> if you specifically want something to run after ~X ms, use timeout
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- # [15:42] <zzzzz_> grrr, m-c win32 opt Nightly burning -
- # [15:42] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, cc'd some more people; I don't think it was me :)
- # [15:42] <Ms2ger> (Yes, famous last words and all)
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- # [15:44] <jviereck> smaug: got that pice. Here is my problem: I notice all network requests finish. Maybe Gecko fires another network request after some time, so I don't want to continue with the printing right away. Assume I create a runnable to check if there are other network requests tiggered. But that runnable might run right away, so there is no value in starting it — I have the feeling I miss something
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- # [15:49] <@smaug> jviereck: why that "Maybe"?
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- # [15:49] <@smaug> but perhaps it can happen
- # [15:50] <@smaug> if there is some fallback behavior
- # [15:50] <@smaug> so in that case runnable should be ok
- # [15:50] <@smaug> I *think* loadgroup doesn't have quite what you want
- # [15:50] <@smaug> if notifies about foreground loads
- # [15:50] <@smaug> but in this printing case we want to check also background loads
- # [15:51] <jviereck> stick with the WebProgressListener?
- # [15:51] <jviereck> what's the difference between forground and background loads?
- # [15:51] <evilpie> jviereck: working all the time :p
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- # [15:52] <@smaug> an active background load doesn't prevent load event to be dispatched
- # [15:52] <@smaug> hmm
- # [15:53] <@smaug> I don't find any interesting case where background loading is used
- # [15:53] <@smaug> I mean interesting from printing point of view
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- # [15:53] <jviereck> that should all be about loading images & fonts
- # [15:54] <@smaug> ah, yes, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/image/src/imgLoader.cpp#1622
- # [15:55] <jviereck> btw, have I told you that loading of images still happen in the wrong load group after fixing stuff in CloneDocHelper?
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- # [15:56] <@smaug> then you need to check where the images get the loadgroup
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- # [15:57] <jviereck> k, I think I first try to get this runable thing working and see if it does as expected and then care about image loading :/
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- # [18:24] <sfink> he actually gets triple for Saturdays, oddly enough
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- # [18:28] <gcp> is there anything more specific for jpg decoding bugs than general?
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- # [18:29] <jlebar|away> gcp, imagelib?
- # [18:30] <gcp> which component/product is that?
- # [18:30] <jlebar|away> gcp, http://harthur.github.com/fileit/
- # [18:30] <gcp> Sorry, either the product imagelib does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into i
- # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, Did you type "imagelib" into that textbox? The first hit for me is "Core/ImageLib".
- # [18:31] <jlebar|away> There's an ajax-y dropdown...
- # [18:31] <gcp> jlebar|away: I did, that gave that error :)
- # [18:31] <gcp> I prolly typed/entered too fast
- # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, You probably pressed enter before the ajaxy-dropdown had a chance to do its magic, yeah.
- # [18:31] <gcp> thanks
- # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, Sure thing.
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- # [18:48] <zzzzz_> can someone re-kick the m-c win32 Nightly ?
- # [18:49] <zzzzz_> please ?
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- # [18:52] <jviereck> sorry, forget about that message
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- # [18:56] <gcp> is there a way to see all changes that went into a specific nightly?
- # [18:57] <gcp> or put differently, what's the easiest way?
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- # [19:34] <bsmith> Bas: where is the source code for the emacsModeline add-in?
- # [19:35] <bsmith> and, where does it get installed by default?
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- # [19:38] <Bas> bsmith: It installs itself in the Visual Studio path in your user profile dir. The source code is on my computer as there hasn't been any interest so far.
- # [19:38] <bsmith> Bas: I am very interested in it
- # [19:39] <bsmith> In particular, I would like to change the default tab spacing to 8
- # [19:39] <bsmith> I have been using it for a couple of weeks now, and it works well except for the default tab spacing
- # [19:39] <Bas> bsmith: My plan (when I have time) is to change the default to 'whatever was set to before it encountered a page with emacs modeline'.
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- # [19:40] <bsmith> Bas: also, it would be nice if you didn't have to switch tabs after adding a modeline
- # [19:40] <bsmith> for the modeline to take effect. probably hard to do
- # [19:40] <Bas> bsmith: Monitoring all content changes would become too expensive I believe.
- # [19:40] <Bas> Would be hard to justify the cost/reward.
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- # [19:41] <bsmith> Bas: FYI, in mozilla-central, there are many files with hard tabs in security/nss that I edit all the time
- # [19:42] <bsmith> because the coding style requirement for most of NSS is to use hard tabs (set at 8)
- # [19:42] <Bas> bsmith: Cairo has timilar issues.
- # [19:42] <Bas> That's mainly why I wrote the plugin.
- # [19:42] <Bas> s/timilar/similar
- # [19:43] <bsmith> It would be great to package the source code and the MSI together with mozilla-build
- # [19:43] <bsmith> even if it doesn't get installed automatically
- # [19:43] <bsmith> I also want to create an add-in that highlights hard tabs in files that shouldn't have them, and highlights trailing whitespace
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- # [19:45] <Bas> I'll have a look, I actually had no idea people were actually using it.
- # [19:45] <Bas> (other than me)
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- # [19:46] <bsmith> Bas: well, you have at least one user.
- # [19:46] <bsmith> Thanks for making it
- # [19:46] <Bas> Heh, no problem :)
- # [19:47] <bsmith> Bas: how did you create your visual studio project for mozilla-central?
- # [19:47] <bsmith> I know GPS was working on auto-generation of VS projects.
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- # [19:47] <dwarfcrank> http://benoitgirard.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/using-visual-studio-2010-ide/
- # [19:47] <Bas> bsmith: BenWa did a decent blogpost on the trick I do (I explained it to him)
- # [19:47] <Bas> There you go.
- # [19:48] <bsmith> Thanks.
- # [19:48] <BenWa> bsmith: Let me know if we ever get something to improve the steps I wrote above
- # [19:48] <bsmith> I have done something much more complicated than that
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- # [19:48] <bsmith> In particular, I do not add dist/include to the include path
- # [19:48] <BenWa> I only set up once in windows so I'm sure the steps could be easier
- # [19:48] <bsmith> instead, I have all the includes paths in the source tree
- # [19:49] <bsmith> so that when I navigate to a header, I can edit the source tree version
- # [19:49] <Bas> bsmith: That doesn't help you with generated headers though
- # [19:49] <dwarfcrank> BenWa: I think you should mention that you have to explicitly select files and add them to the project from the solution explorer, otherwise Intellisense won't pick up things
- # [19:49] <Bas> bsmith: And it doesn't work with a lot of he namespaced cases where relative paths from dist/include are different than in the tree.
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- # [19:49] <bsmith> That's true, Bas, I have also included dist/include at the end of the list, I guess
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- # [19:49] <Bas> Ah, right.
- # [19:49] <bsmith> Bas: Yes, I have solved that with links
- # [19:50] <bsmith> I created a directory mozilla/
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- # [19:50] <bsmith> and then linked Attrributes.h, Scoped.h, etc from mozilla/ to the source
- # [19:50] <Bas> bsmith: Right, so it's never really been enough of an issue for me to spend the time. I just manually load a header when I need to change it.
- # [19:50] <bsmith> Yes, it is very tedious
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- # [19:51] <bsmith> I also found that navigation (Ctrl+, or F12) is very slow if you have everything loaded in the IDE
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- # [19:52] <Bas> Yes! And sometimes it mysteriously gets slow when you have lots of files open, but then when you close all but one and re-open it's fine.
- # [19:52] <Bas> *shrugs*
- # [19:52] <bsmith> so I only have the C++ (*.cpp, *.h) files and the tests for a few select modules in my projects
- # [19:52] <dwarfcrank> Try using VisualHG with the mozilla codebase, it totally kills your VS
- # [19:52] <bsmith> I should say, I have *all* the C++ files for libxul in the project,
- # [19:52] <bsmith> but only a subset of the test files. This helps a lot
- # [19:52] <Bas> I love Visual Studio, I just wish we had proper build files for it.
- # [19:53] <dwarfcrank> Yeah, that'd be lovely
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- # [19:53] <Bas> <1 min incremental builds, yay! :P
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- # [19:54] <bsmith> When you follow BenWa's instructions, do you get clickable error messages in the IDE?
- # [19:54] <bsmith> i.e. does <prev error> / <next error> work?
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- # [19:54] <Bas> bsmith: Yes, in files you included it does.
- # [19:54] <bsmith> cool.
- # [19:55] <Bas> I've also found Visual Studio can get confused with some of our namespace stuff btw.
- # [19:55] <Bas> i.e. the intellisense parser will make mistakes.
- # [19:56] <bsmith> I have not found many times where intellisense took me to the wrong place
- # [19:56] <bsmith> but sometimes it gives me too many options.
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- # [19:58] <bsmith> Bas dwarfcrank benwa: have you guys tried Source Insight? I heard that it is also good, but I haven't tried it (http://www.sourceinsight.com/)
- # [19:58] <bsmith> apparently it is (used to be?) popular even within MS
- # [19:59] <Bas> Nope, never tried it.
- # [19:59] <Bas> Not very expensive though so if it really does all it says it does well, I can imagine it being a good tool. But I'd also imagine making it understand the Mozilla build system is next to impossible.
- # [20:00] <dwarfcrank> Haven't tried it, sorry
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- # [20:40] <marco> is there a minimal requirement to run Firefox about the version of the linux kernel?
- # [20:42] <jlebar|away> marco, There surely is in practice. There may not be any official requirement written down somewhere.
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- # [20:42] <AryehGregor> Sigh. Who decided that ContentIsDescendantOf should return true if the two nodes are equal?
- # [20:42] <AryehGregor> Since when is a node its own descendant?
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- # [20:44] <marco> jlebar|away: ok, thank you
- # [20:44] <AryehGregor> Good thing we have lots of tests!
- # [20:44] <marco> I wanted to know if I can use a function that is supported since 2.6.33
- # [20:46] <AryehGregor> That seems awfully new.
- # [20:46] <AryehGregor> RHEL 6.2 is only up to 2.6.32 (although with a billion patches backported, of course).
- # [20:46] <marco> yes, it's from 2010
- # [20:46] <marco> I will not use it then
- # [20:46] <AryehGregor> I'd imagine we'd still want to support RHEL5.
- # [20:47] <AryehGregor> What function is it?
- # [20:47] <marco> a function to copy files, faster than using read/write
- # [20:47] <AryehGregor> Um, like sendfile?
- # [20:47] <marco> it is sendfile :)
- # [20:47] <AryehGregor> Linux only supports sendfile since 2010?
- # [20:48] <marco> to copy files, yes
- # [20:48] <marco> before 2.6.33 the output must be a socket
- # [20:48] <AryehGregor> Ah.
- # [20:48] <AryehGregor> I imagine you could do it conditionally, no?
- # [20:48] <marco> yes
- # [20:48] <AryehGregor> Figure it out at compile time.
- # [20:49] <AryehGregor> On Linux, no one expects to be able to use binaries compiled on another distro version.
- # [20:49] <AryehGregor> (also, don't listen to anything I say, there are probably people whose opinions actually matter on this kind of thing :) )
- # [20:49] <marco> or at runtime checking the error returned by sendfile (ENOSYS for example)
- # [20:49] <AryehGregor> Right, that seems easiest.
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- # [21:16] <NeilAway> gmail sucks
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- # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Use SeaMonkey
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- # [21:20] <Ameya> how to store preference
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- # [21:21] <Ameya> I mean i need to store IDs of addons into preferences..?
- # [21:21] <Ameya> How to store into preferences...?
- # [21:22] <Ms2ger> No idea
- # [21:23] <Ameya> Actually I need to create JSON array of addon IDs... & store into preferences...
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- # [21:26] <Ms2ger> I'm afraid not, I don't really work with prefs
- # [21:27] <Ameya> do u know anyone who works on it..?
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- # [21:27] <Ameya> Ms2ger: anyone else...?
- # [21:28] <Ms2ger> No
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- # [21:32] <doktor5000> hi there, should automatic configuration/finding of server settings work for gmail accounts with tb ESR (10.0.4 in particular) ?
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- # [21:40] <@khuey> so, what changed in bugzilla recently that has everybody messing up bug dependencies all the time now
- # [21:40] <Ms2ger> See topic
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- # [21:41] <@khuey> topic
- # [21:41] <@khuey> er
- # [21:41] <smontagu> the "bug 756790" part
- # [21:41] <@khuey> yeah
- # [21:41] * @khuey upgrades severity
- # [21:44] <@khuey> dzbarsky: you're destroying bugzilla :-P
- # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Join the club :)
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- # [22:05] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=UNLOCK_DOC&filter=
- # [22:05] <Ms2ger> Lovely editorism
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- # [22:36] <philor> three fixes and only four disables, yay me
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- # [22:42] <philor> can I just call SimpleTest.finish() when I'm bored with running a test, or do I have to wrap all the rest of it in an else?
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- # [22:44] <Ms2ger> Depends
- # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Do you want the results for the checks after your finish() call to be reported for the next test?
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- # [22:46] <philor> sounds lovely!
- # [22:46] <philor> but the way that they aren't made me think I could get away with it
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- # [22:49] <philor> I do https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/175cd1127e12, the test does a KNOWN-FAIL and ends, and I don't see any more sign of it
- # [22:50] <Bas> Ugh bugzilla dependency lists are being real broken.
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- # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6e9d62160729 - Olli Pettay - Bug 750109, outerhtml crash, r=hsivonen,sicking
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- # [23:11] <lduros> is there a page that lists all the available build options for FF that you can put in .mozconfig?
- # [23:13] <padenot> lduros: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Configuring_Build_Options
- # [23:14] <lduros> padenot: ah ok. I found this page earlier but thought it didn't have it all. THanks, padenot
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- # [23:16] <philor> it doesn't, because a complete list would be hundreds of "don't ever use this, you don't know what it will do, but it will probably break in an unexpected way months from now"
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- # [23:22] <lduros> what's the difference between using 'make -f client.mk' or just 'make'
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- # [23:22] <jlebar|away> lduros, You do the first one in your srcdir, and the second one in your objdir.
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- # [23:23] <lduros> jlebar|away: ah, gotcha, thanks
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- # [23:24] <NeilAway> lduros: also the first one works if configure was changed by an update
- # [23:24] <lduros> hmm, ok
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- # [23:29] <lduros> is there a good page that gives an overview of the structure of FF source by directory etc
- # [23:29] <lduros> it's pretty big and a little hard to dive in just into the source code like that
- # [23:29] <lduros> where to start :-\
- # [23:30] <@smaug> s/pretty big/huge/ ;)
- # [23:30] <@smaug> lduros: I wouldn't start that way
- # [23:30] <jlebar|away> Oh god, I don't even want to comment in bugzilla anymore.
- # [23:31] <jlebar|away> I keep resetting depends flags.
- # [23:31] <jlebar|away> <troll>Tell me again why bugzilla is better than github?</troll>
- # [23:31] <Callek> jlebar|away: it *is*
- # [23:31] <Callek> jlebar|away: github doesn't even have dependancy flags
- # [23:31] <philor> because you can yell directly at the people who will fix bugzilla, on irc.m.o?
- # [23:31] <jlebar|away> Callek, It's true, github does not have this feature where dependency flags randomly break.
- # [23:32] <@smaug> lduros: if you have some feature you want to implement or some problem you want to fix, start looking at the code relevant to it
- # [23:32] <@smaug> not all the code
- # [23:32] <Callek> and this is a regression by glob, which will get fixed monday one way or the other
- # [23:32] <lduros> hehe
- # [23:32] <Callek> aiui
- # [23:32] <@smaug> lduros: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ is your friend
- # [23:32] <lduros> smaug: ah cool :-)
- # [23:32] <lduros> never actually saw the index page for that
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- # [23:32] <lduros> :-)
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- # [23:34] <@smaug> Callek: is there a bug# for this bugzilla regression?
- # [23:34] <dwarfcrank> Yeah, MXR is a really good friend
- # [23:34] <mbrubeck> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756790
- # [23:35] <lduros> hehe
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- # [23:38] <Jesse> jlebar|away: are you using session restore on bugzilla tabs? or reloading them without holding shift?
- # [23:39] <philor> no, he's using a bugzilla with bug 756790 in it
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- # [23:40] <Jesse> oh
- # [23:40] <Jesse> i guess i need to stay out of bugzilla until that's fixed
- # [23:41] <philor> eh, it's easy enough to see that your submit is "checking for dependency changes on ..." and go back and fix them, appears to only happen once per bug
- # [23:41] <philor> nothing wrong with taking a Sunday off, but you don't actually *have* to
- # [23:42] <jlebar|away> That's out-of-character-ly half-full thinking for you, philor. :)
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- # [23:42] <mbrubeck> philor is just highly acclimated to manually working around deficient tools
- # [23:43] <jlebar|away> <-- really away
- # [23:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fb3036d9b9e6 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 756851 - add missing call to object->markIfUnmarked before GCMarker::pushObject. r=billm
- # [23:43] <philor> it's a subtle difference, but "this is shit and being ignored" is what I rage about, not "this is shit and being worked on"
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- # [23:45] <lduros> ok this may sound stupid... but I have just used ./configure && make -- is the binary created located in dist/bin? htat's the only place I can see it
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- # [23:45] <lduros> it says it's nightly
- # [23:45] <lduros> nightly 12, not FF 12
- # [23:46] <lduros> although I used FF12 source... ah well. I guess it's just the way it is
- # [23:46] <Jesse> yes, on windows and linux, you can expect to find your firefox binary in objdir/dist/bin
- # [23:46] <lduros> Jesse: ok :-)
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- # [23:47] <Jesse> wtf why is building ESR making VLC skip
- # [23:47] <bjacob> anyone knows how tell github to serve a html page straight off the git repo?
- # [23:47] <@smaug> lduros: just curious, why you want to build FF12 ?
- # [23:48] <lduros> interest in learning
- # [23:48] <lduros> smaug: also i'm working on GNU IceCat. adding librejs to it, etc, ...
- # [23:48] <lduros> that part is easy to figure out
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- # [23:48] <lduros> smaug: i'm using fossology to check FF12 source too
- # [23:49] <lduros> smaug: so you know, I'm just familiarizing myself with the source
- # [23:49] * @smaug has no idea what IceCAT and librejs are, so can't comment more :)
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- # [23:50] <lduros> smaug: icecat is an unbranded version of firefox, akin to iceweasel
- # [23:50] <@smaug> ah, IceCAT is the old IceWeasel
- # [23:50] <lduros> yes
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- # [23:50] <lduros> and librejs is an extension that detects and blocks nonfree nontrivial JS
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- # [23:50] <@smaug> oh
- # [23:50] <lduros> nonfree == js without license notice written a certain way. which is a minority of scripts online currently.
- # [23:51] <@smaug> really
- # [23:51] <mcsmurf> does not sound very useful, heh
- # [23:51] <@smaug> I would have guessed all the JS from Google and Facebook etc are non-free
- # [23:51] <lduros> yes
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- # [23:51] <lduros> well, pretty much any js that doesn't have clear license statements is considered nonfree
- # [23:51] <lduros> unless it's very trivial
- # [23:51] <@smaug> ah, right
- # [23:52] <lduros> in practice they may be free
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- # [23:52] <lduros> but the goal is to get "webmasters" to be more concerned about license notices
- # [23:52] <lduros> and to consider their javascript files as real pieces of software they should release as free
- # [23:52] <Jesse> if you put a GPL notice on a minified JS file i will hunt you down
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- # [23:53] <lduros> Jesse: you can also add a link on your HTML page, which links to a table where you have pairs your files with licenses
- # [23:53] <lduros> that's accepted also
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- # [23:54] <lduros> anyway, more info is here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
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- # [23:54] <Jesse> oh i like their "// @source:" suggestion
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- # [23:55] <nthomas> Is anyone aware of a bug in Nightly or bugzilla that gives you two dependencies on a bug, and when you remove one it removes both ?
- # [23:56] <Jesse> they want gigantic license notices, though :(
- # [23:56] <nthomas> n/m
- # [23:56] <lduros> Jesse: the only license notice you want is for the html page, then for the external files, you can add a table that lists the files and the canonical urls to their license
- # [23:56] <dzbarsky> nthomas: its a bugzilla bug thats being worked on
- # [23:56] <lduros> Jesse: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/javascript-labels.html
- # [23:57] <lduros> this way you can keep your minified stuff to the minimum number of characters if you want
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