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  5. # [00:02] <jviereck> can someone tell me how to change the loadGroup for loading background images?
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  50. # [00:57] * NeilAway assumes jviereck found .get() works with nsCString too
  51. # [00:57] <jviereck> NeilAway: I just ignored the problem and went on...
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  53. # [00:57] <jviereck> I think I tried nsACString that then it didn't worked - but don't remember anymore
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  55. # [00:58] <evilpie> RyanVM: what is the meaning of "a;r" ?
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  57. # [00:58] <Unfocused> pirate typo
  58. # [00:59] <RyanVM> android infra; restarted (as explained to me by philor)
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  62. # [01:03] <evilpie> RyanVM: mhm okay thanks
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  67. # [01:10] <beboki> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/security/manager/ssl/src/nsSDR.cpp#88 - why PK11SlotInfoCleaner is not clickable? where is it defined?
  68. # [01:10] <mbrubeck> beboki: Because MXR is not always smart enough; you can do a plain-text search instead: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=PK11SlotInfoCleaner
  69. # [01:11] <mbrubeck> That doesn't exactly answer the second question, though...
  70. # [01:11] <beboki> mbrubeck: I did, and I still don't know where it is defined :)
  71. # [01:11] <Unfocused> heh
  72. # [01:12] <beboki> looks like there is some black magic involved here somewhere... during building maybe, or sth? anyone knows this crypto code?
  73. # [01:13] <mbrubeck> beboki: http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSCertificateDB.cpp.html#l85
  74. # [01:13] <mbrubeck> DXR is smarter. :)
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  77. # [01:15] <beboki> OK, defined through macro... thanks, mbrubeck.
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  80. # [01:20] <beboki> this DXR thing is really cool indeed. thanks for a link.
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  103. # [01:58] <jviereck> what does it mean if FF crash with "Segmentation fault: 11"?
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  114. # [02:12] <scientes> can someone push the first two patches on bug 747257 to the try server for me?
  115. # [02:12] <scientes> if they pass that i think they are ready to land
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  117. # [02:12] <scientes> also they need --enable-gstreamer if the try server don't use that
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  128. # [02:29] <RyanVM> didn't tbpl used to have a link to the ftp directory for a build?
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  130. # [02:38] <zzzzz> yeah, but it was tricky to get to - and I don't know if I recall the steps :P
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  134. # [02:41] <zzzzz> damn, don't remember
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  136. # [02:42] <zzzzz> what is this not responding BS opening a log :P
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  217. # [05:01] <nigelb> anyone around with firefox beta on android. I want help reproducing a bug.
  218. # [05:02] <rnewman> nigelb: what's up?
  219. # [05:03] <nigelb> rnewman: can you hit, input.mozilla.org from beta and try to submit feedback?
  220. # [05:03] <nigelb> I have a bug that seems to say that it doesn't let you submit feedback.
  221. # [05:03] <rnewman> checking
  222. # [05:03] <nigelb> Thanks!
  223. # [05:05] <rnewman> submitted a "Firefox made me happy", "testing for nigelb"
  224. # [05:05] <rnewman> did have to click "Learn more", "Submit feedback for your version of Firefox"
  225. # [05:05] <rnewman> there was no feedback link on input.mo
  226. # [05:06] <nigelb> rnewman: were you on m.input.mo?
  227. # [05:06] <rnewman> no, and I'm using Phony
  228. # [05:07] <nigelb> Wait, what's phony?
  229. # [05:07] <rnewman> I kinda forget that mobile sites exist
  230. # [05:07] <rnewman> because I hate them
  231. # [05:07] <nigelb> lol
  232. # [05:07] <rnewman> it's an addon that allows me to spoof my UA
  233. # [05:07] <rnewman> as desktop
  234. # [05:07] <nigelb> ah
  235. # [05:07] <rnewman> probably the most popular mobile addon
  236. # [05:07] <rnewman> for that reason
  237. # [05:07] <nigelb> :)
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  239. # [05:08] <rnewman> m.input has no input option
  240. # [05:08] <nigelb> rnewman: m.input.m.o/feedback
  241. # [05:09] <rnewman> newer, older, statistics, settings, search
  242. # [05:09] <rnewman> ah
  243. # [05:09] <rnewman> yeah, worked
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  246. # [05:09] <nigelb> okay, so this bug is unreproducible. bah.
  247. # [05:10] <rnewman> but of course, still spoofing ua
  248. # [05:10] <nigelb> I did a wget with fennec ua.
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  277. # [06:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ed488f577c84 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 733553 - Allow multipart image streams to cope with stream changes. r=joe
  278. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/32cfab3a6aa5 - Brian Hackett - Use handles in API object hooks where possible, bug 750733. r=billm
  279. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0e2cc686b07b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
  280. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f1c93b5b549 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 733553 - Tests for multipart streams via mochitest-plain using httpd.js. r=joe
  281. # [06:26] <philor> nice, if you push aurora to try, the minimum expected outcome is 34 orange Android tests from branding, and 11 spuriously red builds from tooltool
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  292. # [06:52] <rnewman> man, I love our tests
  293. # [06:53] <cpearce> when the topic says "m-c > 17422a2d0c70 needs CLOBBER", that means locally we need to clobber to build??
  294. # [06:54] <Callek> cpearce: yes. :(
  295. # [06:54] <philor> nope, it means you need to clobber to run, um, mochitest-2
  296. # [06:54] <Callek> locally or any branches you pull m-c to
  297. # [06:54] <Callek> philor: ooo hrm, was I extra-confused
  298. # [06:54] <cpearce> make clean && make distclean won't suffice?
  299. # [06:55] <cpearce> what a pain.
  300. # [06:55] * Callek changes topic to 'm-c > 17422a2d0c70 needs CLOBBER || pymake bustage fixed in bug 755277 || Next uplift for Fx15: 2012-06-05 || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
  301. # [06:56] <philor> well, Ed merged it to m-c without successfully clobbering, and the only effect was 30K mochitest-2 failures on the platforms that didn't happen to clobber, so I don't think I'd clobber until I actually needed to, unless I was merging to another branch
  302. # [06:56] <philor> or running mochitests locally, but who does that?
  303. # [06:57] <cpearce> Pretty sure everyone does that. It's just that local mochitests perform differently to tinberbox mochitests.
  304. # [06:57] <philor> and even then, you could just rm testrunnerwhosits.js from your objdir
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  306. # [06:59] <philor> well, no, the problem was replacing dom/imptests/testharnessreport.js.in with dom/imptests/testharnessreport.js, which causes you to not get the preprocessed version in your objdir replaced with the new version, so you don't have the new version which knows how to run those extra 30K tests
  307. # [07:00] <cpearce> hmm, no the problem I'm seeing is a local build failure, not a test failure.
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  309. # [07:03] <philor> that'd be different, then
  310. # [07:05] <philor> perhaps bug 756808?
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  361. # [09:07] <AryehGregor> /mnt/extra/checkouts/mozilla-central/editor/libeditor/text/nsPlaintextEditor.cpp:444:1: error: control reaches end of non-void function [-Werror=return-type]
  362. # [09:07] <AryehGregor> No it doesn't, I have a switch statement that handles all three possible enum values. :(
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  372. # [09:11] <squib> is anyone here having trouble updating dependencies on BMO?
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  382. # [09:19] <KWierso|outoftown> squib: I've seen a number of comments from people in bugmail where dependencies are getting wiped out
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  386. # [09:20] <squib> KWierso: yeah, that's what i was experiencing. i think i fixed it on the bug i munged up though, so maybe the problem went away?
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  404. # [09:31] <AryehGregor> I just updated a bug and a dependency was lost.
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  406. # [09:33] <KWierso> AryehGregor: what other fields did you touch?
  407. # [09:33] <AryehGregor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742240#c19
  408. # [09:33] <AryehGregor> Target Milestone, Flags. The bug that got incorrectly removed has an alias, if that helps.
  409. # [09:34] <nigelb> I don't understand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756762#c7
  410. # [09:34] <nigelb> Is that Fennec or Android's default browser there?
  411. # [09:35] <Unfocused> pretty sure that's androids browser
  412. # [09:35] <KWierso> nigelb: looks like the android default (or at least some webkit-based browser) to me
  413. # [09:36] <nigelb> KWierso: The bug feels like mild troll at this point then.
  414. # [09:36] <Unfocused> though, he could be using a user-agent switcher addon, which is more common on mobile
  415. # [09:36] <nigelb> Oh.
  416. # [09:36] <nigelb> I should ask that.
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  432. # [09:57] <KWierso> AryehGregor: I don't think anyone's filed a bug about this yet, want to file one?
  433. # [09:57] <AryehGregor> KWierso, not particularly.
  434. # [09:58] <KWierso> (you could point to what happened to RyanVM in bug 598873, bug 577867, and 597911)
  435. # [09:58] <smontagu> I don't know if it's the same bug or related, but I notice that all the dependencies of bug 627842 appear twice
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  439. # [09:59] <KWierso> smontagu: bug 756790?
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  441. # [10:00] <smontagu> "bug has alias" seems to be a common factor here
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  443. # [10:00] <KWierso> AryehGregor: disregard, looks like that is this bug :)
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  510. # [11:26] <NeilAway> I like how the hg log of 17422a2d0c70 shows one set of files as being changed and then gives you the diffs from a different set of files
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  548. # [12:16] <Fallen> how do I make bugzilla show me all bugs where the depends on field is empty? I tried "Depends On" "is equal to" "" but that doesn't seem to work
  549. # [12:20] <zzzzz_> Fallen: DEPND IS BROKEN i THINK https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756790
  550. # [12:20] <zzzzz_> oops
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  552. # [12:24] <Fallen> oh boy, everything I want to do today seems to be broken
  553. # [12:26] <darktrojan> I thought you were away
  554. # [12:28] <Fallen> I am, in Thailand :-)
  555. # [12:28] <Fallen> I should be on vacation more often though, I got a lot of good things done here :-)
  556. # [12:29] <darktrojan> heh
  557. # [12:29] <darktrojan> most people try not to work on vacation
  558. # [12:30] <Fallen> My loving wife told me I should take my laptop :-)
  559. # [12:31] <Fallen> btw: I was able to get depends field empty with "Depends on" "matches regular expression" "[0-9]+" and then clicking the negate checkbox
  560. # [12:31] <darktrojan> ew
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  562. # [12:32] <darktrojan> I thought there was a "is blank" but I was wrong
  563. # [12:32] <darktrojan> glob: fix it
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  565. # [12:35] <Fallen> there are some bugs like bug 345194 open for is empty
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  567. # [12:36] <Fallen> there seems to be something strange with the depends on field though, because the usual trick of "matches regex" "^$" doesn't work, nor does "does not match regex" "[0-9]+"
  568. # [12:38] <darktrojan> it's probably implemented as a table instead of a string field
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  570. # [12:44] <Fallen> I wonder why the matches regex and negate trick works then?
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  579. # [13:02] <deLta30> I am trying to develope an addon using jetpack. It works with latest firefox but not with a nightly build.
  580. # [13:02] <deLta30> Does anyone know what might be the issue?
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  588. # [13:12] <NeilAway> bah, the dep deletion bug sucks
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  594. # [13:13] <Ms2ger> #if defined(DEBUG_ftang)
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  603. # [13:34] <jviereck> how do I check if there is something on an nsCOMPtr?
  604. # [13:34] <jviereck> if I do | if (mLoadTimer) {|, this evaluates to true, although I never assigned something to |mLoadTimer| execpt doing |mLoadTimer(nsnull)| during the construction
  605. # [13:34] <atuljangra> jviereck: May be you can refer to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_nsCOMPtr
  606. # [13:36] <jviereck> thx!
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  610. # [13:44] <jviereck> if I add a new | nsCOMPtr<nsITimer> mLoadTimer;| to the nsPrintEngine, open print preview and close print preview again, I end up in an "Segmentation fault: 11" — are there some steps involved when adding a new nsCOMPtr<nsITimer> to clean it up later on, that I might have missed?
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  668. # [15:14] <@smaug> pdf.js is just great
  669. # [15:15] <@smaug> I don't hate pdf files anymore
  670. # [15:15] <{V}> that good is it?
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  673. # [15:20] <AryehGregor> Chrome's equivalent is that good, I know that. At least by now. Initially it had lots of bugs.
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  675. # [15:20] <@smaug> Chrome's equivalent isn't open source
  676. # [15:20] <@smaug> so chromium doesn't have it
  677. # [15:21] <@smaug> but anyhow, interesting that Adobe hasn't managed to create a good enough pdf plugin
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  680. # [15:23] <jviereck> smaug: ping
  681. # [15:23] <@smaug> jviereck: hello
  682. # [15:24] <jviereck> smaug: do you have a bit - I need some help how to continue with the implementation - not sure I'm doing things the right way :/
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  686. # [15:25] <@smaug> jviereck: I'll be online for some time now yes
  687. # [15:26] <@smaug> afk occasionally for few minutes though
  688. # [15:26] <@smaug> so, just ask the questions :)
  689. # [15:26] <jviereck> smaug: I go the WebProgressListener working for font loads (images still load in the wrong loadGroup…). What's the best way to determ if all loads required for the page have finished loading? I would listen to the WebProgress callback, count the number of requests starting and the ones that finish and once they counter hits zero, I assume all resources are loaded
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  691. # [15:26] <@smaug> doesn't loadgroup have the listener
  692. # [15:27] <jviereck> smaug: listener that all loads have finished?
  693. # [15:27] <@smaug> groupObserver
  694. # [15:28] <@smaug> there is also isPending() method, but I'm not sure how that works with loadgroups
  695. # [15:28] <jviereck> smaug: in addition, should there be a small timeout before continue printing in case that another request get started after the counter became zero? Maybe also Gecko needs to do some other stuff first (like creating the actual platform font) that happen after the network has finished
  696. # [15:28] <@smaug> would have to look at the source code
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  698. # [15:28] <@smaug> well, timeout shouldn't be needed, but perhaps a runnable
  699. # [15:29] <jviereck> what is a runnable?
  700. # [15:29] <nigelb> Gah. I think I pissed a user off :/
  701. # [15:30] <@smaug> ah, nsLoadGroup::IsPending is for foreground only
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  705. # [15:31] <@smaug> jviereck: runnable is something you can dispatch to a thread (in this case main thread), and when thread's event loop spins, runnable's Run method is called
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  708. # [15:32] <@smaug> effectively async method call
  709. # [15:32] <@smaug> hmm, nsIRequestObserver is also for foreground requests
  710. # [15:32] * @smaug reads some more code
  711. # [15:32] <@smaug> biesi and bz would remember more about loadgroup.
  712. # [15:32] <@smaug> but the source code looks pretty simple fortunately
  713. # [15:33] <jviereck> I don't get why you want to do an async call instead of an timeout
  714. # [15:33] <Ms2ger> Eww, timeouts ;)
  715. # [15:34] <@smaug> jviereck: because there shouldn't be need to timeout
  716. # [15:34] <@smaug> and what timeout value
  717. # [15:34] <@smaug> 10ms? 1000ms?
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  719. # [15:35] <jviereck> I know that timeouts are a bad thing - but I don't understand how runnable will solve the problem
  720. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Magic
  721. # [15:35] <jviereck> runnable = run a task in a different thread, right?
  722. # [15:35] <jviereck> Ms2ger: why do I get the feeling Gecko is all about Magic?
  723. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> Because that's the way it is.
  724. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> Sorry.
  725. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> And because IE and Netscape
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  727. # [15:36] <KaiRo> if any JS devs are around, someone landed a heavily crashing JS change on Friday, see bug 756796 (and bug 756797), would be really really nice if someone could take a look at what's wrong there
  728. # [15:37] <@smaug> nothing magic with runnables
  729. # [15:38] <@smaug> common thing with any event loop based software
  730. # [15:38] <@smaug> jviereck: so, if there is reason for something to be async, use runnable
  731. # [15:38] <@smaug> if you specifically want something to run after ~X ms, use timeout
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  734. # [15:42] <zzzzz_> grrr, m-c win32 opt Nightly burning -
  735. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, cc'd some more people; I don't think it was me :)
  736. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> (Yes, famous last words and all)
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  739. # [15:44] <jviereck> smaug: got that pice. Here is my problem: I notice all network requests finish. Maybe Gecko fires another network request after some time, so I don't want to continue with the printing right away. Assume I create a runnable to check if there are other network requests tiggered. But that runnable might run right away, so there is no value in starting it — I have the feeling I miss something
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  742. # [15:49] <@smaug> jviereck: why that "Maybe"?
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  744. # [15:49] <@smaug> but perhaps it can happen
  745. # [15:50] <@smaug> if there is some fallback behavior
  746. # [15:50] <@smaug> so in that case runnable should be ok
  747. # [15:50] <@smaug> I *think* loadgroup doesn't have quite what you want
  748. # [15:50] <@smaug> if notifies about foreground loads
  749. # [15:50] <@smaug> but in this printing case we want to check also background loads
  750. # [15:51] <jviereck> stick with the WebProgressListener?
  751. # [15:51] <jviereck> what's the difference between forground and background loads?
  752. # [15:51] <evilpie> jviereck: working all the time :p
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  754. # [15:52] <@smaug> an active background load doesn't prevent load event to be dispatched
  755. # [15:52] <@smaug> hmm
  756. # [15:53] <@smaug> I don't find any interesting case where background loading is used
  757. # [15:53] <@smaug> I mean interesting from printing point of view
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  759. # [15:53] <jviereck> that should all be about loading images & fonts
  760. # [15:54] <@smaug> ah, yes, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/image/src/imgLoader.cpp#1622
  761. # [15:55] <jviereck> btw, have I told you that loading of images still happen in the wrong load group after fixing stuff in CloneDocHelper?
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  765. # [15:56] <@smaug> then you need to check where the images get the loadgroup
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  768. # [15:57] <jviereck> k, I think I first try to get this runable thing working and see if it does as expected and then care about image loading :/
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  772. # [16:08] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: thanks - I know it's bad style to ping people about work on a Sunday, and Nightly always has the risk of being crashy and all - but for one thing, looking at this, I'm already doing work on a Sunday as well and then, I feel better if we keep our Nightly audience and don't make them flee to more stable variants ;-)
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  870. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, don't worry, I'm being paid just as much to work on Sundays as the rest of the week ;)
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  893. # [18:24] <sfink> he actually gets triple for Saturdays, oddly enough
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  895. # [18:28] <gcp> is there anything more specific for jpg decoding bugs than general?
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  897. # [18:29] <jlebar|away> gcp, imagelib?
  898. # [18:30] <gcp> which component/product is that?
  899. # [18:30] <jlebar|away> gcp, http://harthur.github.com/fileit/
  900. # [18:30] <gcp> Sorry, either the product imagelib does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into i
  901. # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, Did you type "imagelib" into that textbox? The first hit for me is "Core/ImageLib".
  902. # [18:31] <jlebar|away> There's an ajax-y dropdown...
  903. # [18:31] <gcp> jlebar|away: I did, that gave that error :)
  904. # [18:31] <gcp> I prolly typed/entered too fast
  905. # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, You probably pressed enter before the ajaxy-dropdown had a chance to do its magic, yeah.
  906. # [18:31] <gcp> thanks
  907. # [18:31] <jlebar|away> gcp, Sure thing.
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  917. # [18:48] <zzzzz_> can someone re-kick the m-c win32 Nightly ?
  918. # [18:49] <zzzzz_> please ?
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  921. # [18:52] <jviereck> is there a way to figure out which line causes a
  922. # [18:52] <jviereck> sorry, forget about that message
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  927. # [18:56] <gcp> is there a way to see all changes that went into a specific nightly?
  928. # [18:57] <gcp> or put differently, what's the easiest way?
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  967. # [19:34] <bsmith> Bas: where is the source code for the emacsModeline add-in?
  968. # [19:35] <bsmith> and, where does it get installed by default?
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  982. # [19:38] <Bas> bsmith: It installs itself in the Visual Studio path in your user profile dir. The source code is on my computer as there hasn't been any interest so far.
  983. # [19:38] <bsmith> Bas: I am very interested in it
  984. # [19:39] <bsmith> In particular, I would like to change the default tab spacing to 8
  985. # [19:39] <bsmith> I have been using it for a couple of weeks now, and it works well except for the default tab spacing
  986. # [19:39] <Bas> bsmith: My plan (when I have time) is to change the default to 'whatever was set to before it encountered a page with emacs modeline'.
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  988. # [19:40] <bsmith> Bas: also, it would be nice if you didn't have to switch tabs after adding a modeline
  989. # [19:40] <bsmith> for the modeline to take effect. probably hard to do
  990. # [19:40] <Bas> bsmith: Monitoring all content changes would become too expensive I believe.
  991. # [19:40] <Bas> Would be hard to justify the cost/reward.
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  993. # [19:41] <bsmith> Bas: FYI, in mozilla-central, there are many files with hard tabs in security/nss that I edit all the time
  994. # [19:42] <bsmith> because the coding style requirement for most of NSS is to use hard tabs (set at 8)
  995. # [19:42] <Bas> bsmith: Cairo has timilar issues.
  996. # [19:42] <Bas> That's mainly why I wrote the plugin.
  997. # [19:42] <Bas> s/timilar/similar
  998. # [19:43] <bsmith> It would be great to package the source code and the MSI together with mozilla-build
  999. # [19:43] <bsmith> even if it doesn't get installed automatically
  1000. # [19:43] <bsmith> I also want to create an add-in that highlights hard tabs in files that shouldn't have them, and highlights trailing whitespace
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  1006. # [19:45] <Bas> I'll have a look, I actually had no idea people were actually using it.
  1007. # [19:45] <Bas> (other than me)
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  1010. # [19:46] <bsmith> Bas: well, you have at least one user.
  1011. # [19:46] <bsmith> Thanks for making it
  1012. # [19:46] <Bas> Heh, no problem :)
  1013. # [19:47] <bsmith> Bas: how did you create your visual studio project for mozilla-central?
  1014. # [19:47] <bsmith> I know GPS was working on auto-generation of VS projects.
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  1016. # [19:47] <dwarfcrank> http://benoitgirard.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/using-visual-studio-2010-ide/
  1017. # [19:47] <Bas> bsmith: BenWa did a decent blogpost on the trick I do (I explained it to him)
  1018. # [19:47] <Bas> There you go.
  1019. # [19:48] <bsmith> Thanks.
  1020. # [19:48] <BenWa> bsmith: Let me know if we ever get something to improve the steps I wrote above
  1021. # [19:48] <bsmith> I have done something much more complicated than that
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  1024. # [19:48] <bsmith> In particular, I do not add dist/include to the include path
  1025. # [19:48] <BenWa> I only set up once in windows so I'm sure the steps could be easier
  1026. # [19:48] <bsmith> instead, I have all the includes paths in the source tree
  1027. # [19:49] <bsmith> so that when I navigate to a header, I can edit the source tree version
  1028. # [19:49] <Bas> bsmith: That doesn't help you with generated headers though
  1029. # [19:49] <dwarfcrank> BenWa: I think you should mention that you have to explicitly select files and add them to the project from the solution explorer, otherwise Intellisense won't pick up things
  1030. # [19:49] <Bas> bsmith: And it doesn't work with a lot of he namespaced cases where relative paths from dist/include are different than in the tree.
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  1033. # [19:49] <bsmith> That's true, Bas, I have also included dist/include at the end of the list, I guess
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  1035. # [19:49] <Bas> Ah, right.
  1036. # [19:49] <bsmith> Bas: Yes, I have solved that with links
  1037. # [19:50] <bsmith> I created a directory mozilla/
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  1039. # [19:50] <bsmith> and then linked Attrributes.h, Scoped.h, etc from mozilla/ to the source
  1040. # [19:50] <Bas> bsmith: Right, so it's never really been enough of an issue for me to spend the time. I just manually load a header when I need to change it.
  1041. # [19:50] <bsmith> Yes, it is very tedious
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  1044. # [19:51] <bsmith> I also found that navigation (Ctrl+, or F12) is very slow if you have everything loaded in the IDE
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  1047. # [19:52] <Bas> Yes! And sometimes it mysteriously gets slow when you have lots of files open, but then when you close all but one and re-open it's fine.
  1048. # [19:52] <Bas> *shrugs*
  1049. # [19:52] <bsmith> so I only have the C++ (*.cpp, *.h) files and the tests for a few select modules in my projects
  1050. # [19:52] <dwarfcrank> Try using VisualHG with the mozilla codebase, it totally kills your VS
  1051. # [19:52] <bsmith> I should say, I have *all* the C++ files for libxul in the project,
  1052. # [19:52] <bsmith> but only a subset of the test files. This helps a lot
  1053. # [19:52] <Bas> I love Visual Studio, I just wish we had proper build files for it.
  1054. # [19:53] <dwarfcrank> Yeah, that'd be lovely
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  1056. # [19:53] <Bas> <1 min incremental builds, yay! :P
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  1061. # [19:54] <bsmith> When you follow BenWa's instructions, do you get clickable error messages in the IDE?
  1062. # [19:54] <bsmith> i.e. does <prev error> / <next error> work?
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  1064. # [19:54] <Bas> bsmith: Yes, in files you included it does.
  1065. # [19:54] <bsmith> cool.
  1066. # [19:55] <Bas> I've also found Visual Studio can get confused with some of our namespace stuff btw.
  1067. # [19:55] <Bas> i.e. the intellisense parser will make mistakes.
  1068. # [19:56] <bsmith> I have not found many times where intellisense took me to the wrong place
  1069. # [19:56] <bsmith> but sometimes it gives me too many options.
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  1073. # [19:58] <bsmith> Bas dwarfcrank benwa: have you guys tried Source Insight? I heard that it is also good, but I haven't tried it (http://www.sourceinsight.com/)
  1074. # [19:58] <bsmith> apparently it is (used to be?) popular even within MS
  1075. # [19:59] <Bas> Nope, never tried it.
  1076. # [19:59] <Bas> Not very expensive though so if it really does all it says it does well, I can imagine it being a good tool. But I'd also imagine making it understand the Mozilla build system is next to impossible.
  1077. # [20:00] <dwarfcrank> Haven't tried it, sorry
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  1084. # [20:09] <zzzzz> tbpl m-c is failing to load :P
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  1122. # [20:40] <marco> is there a minimal requirement to run Firefox about the version of the linux kernel?
  1123. # [20:42] <jlebar|away> marco, There surely is in practice. There may not be any official requirement written down somewhere.
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  1125. # [20:42] <AryehGregor> Sigh. Who decided that ContentIsDescendantOf should return true if the two nodes are equal?
  1126. # [20:42] <AryehGregor> Since when is a node its own descendant?
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  1129. # [20:44] <marco> jlebar|away: ok, thank you
  1130. # [20:44] <AryehGregor> Good thing we have lots of tests!
  1131. # [20:44] <marco> I wanted to know if I can use a function that is supported since 2.6.33
  1132. # [20:46] <AryehGregor> That seems awfully new.
  1133. # [20:46] <AryehGregor> RHEL 6.2 is only up to 2.6.32 (although with a billion patches backported, of course).
  1134. # [20:46] <marco> yes, it's from 2010
  1135. # [20:46] <marco> I will not use it then
  1136. # [20:46] <AryehGregor> I'd imagine we'd still want to support RHEL5.
  1137. # [20:47] <AryehGregor> What function is it?
  1138. # [20:47] <marco> a function to copy files, faster than using read/write
  1139. # [20:47] <AryehGregor> Um, like sendfile?
  1140. # [20:47] <marco> it is sendfile :)
  1141. # [20:47] <AryehGregor> Linux only supports sendfile since 2010?
  1142. # [20:48] <marco> to copy files, yes
  1143. # [20:48] <marco> before 2.6.33 the output must be a socket
  1144. # [20:48] <AryehGregor> Ah.
  1145. # [20:48] <AryehGregor> I imagine you could do it conditionally, no?
  1146. # [20:48] <marco> yes
  1147. # [20:48] <AryehGregor> Figure it out at compile time.
  1148. # [20:49] <AryehGregor> On Linux, no one expects to be able to use binaries compiled on another distro version.
  1149. # [20:49] <AryehGregor> (also, don't listen to anything I say, there are probably people whose opinions actually matter on this kind of thing :) )
  1150. # [20:49] <marco> or at runtime checking the error returned by sendfile (ENOSYS for example)
  1151. # [20:49] <AryehGregor> Right, that seems easiest.
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  1182. # [21:16] <NeilAway> gmail sucks
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  1184. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Use SeaMonkey
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  1186. # [21:20] <Ameya> how to store preference
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  1188. # [21:21] <Ameya> I mean i need to store IDs of addons into preferences..?
  1189. # [21:21] <Ameya> How to store into preferences...?
  1190. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> No idea
  1191. # [21:23] <Ameya> Actually I need to create JSON array of addon IDs... & store into preferences...
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  1195. # [21:26] <Ameya> Ms2ger: any idea how to do it?
  1196. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> I'm afraid not, I don't really work with prefs
  1197. # [21:27] <Ameya> do u know anyone who works on it..?
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  1199. # [21:27] <Ameya> Ms2ger: anyone else...?
  1200. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> No
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  1209. # [21:40] <@khuey> so, what changed in bugzilla recently that has everybody messing up bug dependencies all the time now
  1210. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> See topic
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  1212. # [21:41] <@khuey> topic
  1213. # [21:41] <@khuey> er
  1214. # [21:41] <smontagu> the "bug 756790" part
  1215. # [21:41] <@khuey> yeah
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  1217. # [21:44] <@khuey> dzbarsky: you're destroying bugzilla :-P
  1218. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Join the club :)
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  1221. # [21:45] <dzbarsky> khuey: heh, bugzilla is being very finnicky
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  1239. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=UNLOCK_DOC&;filter=
  1240. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> Lovely editorism
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  1255. # [22:17] <philor> you know what I wish our test logs had more of? pointless yammering about how US-ASCII documents like "<!DOCTYPE html><html><body></body></html>" need to declare an encoding so the characters outside US-ASCII that don't exist won't be misinterpreted when they aren't interpreted because they don't exist
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  1275. # [22:36] <philor> three fixes and only four disables, yay me
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  1281. # [22:42] <philor> can I just call SimpleTest.finish() when I'm bored with running a test, or do I have to wrap all the rest of it in an else?
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  1286. # [22:44] <Ms2ger> Depends
  1287. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Do you want the results for the checks after your finish() call to be reported for the next test?
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  1290. # [22:46] <philor> sounds lovely!
  1291. # [22:46] <philor> but the way that they aren't made me think I could get away with it
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  1294. # [22:49] <philor> I do https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/175cd1127e12, the test does a KNOWN-FAIL and ends, and I don't see any more sign of it
  1295. # [22:50] <Bas> Ugh bugzilla dependency lists are being real broken.
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  1308. # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6e9d62160729 - Olli Pettay - Bug 750109, outerhtml crash, r=hsivonen,sicking
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  1316. # [23:11] <lduros> is there a page that lists all the available build options for FF that you can put in .mozconfig?
  1317. # [23:13] <padenot> lduros: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Configuring_Build_Options
  1318. # [23:14] <lduros> padenot: ah ok. I found this page earlier but thought it didn't have it all. THanks, padenot
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  1320. # [23:16] <philor> it doesn't, because a complete list would be hundreds of "don't ever use this, you don't know what it will do, but it will probably break in an unexpected way months from now"
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  1327. # [23:22] <lduros> what's the difference between using 'make -f client.mk' or just 'make'
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  1330. # [23:22] <jlebar|away> lduros, You do the first one in your srcdir, and the second one in your objdir.
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  1332. # [23:23] <lduros> jlebar|away: ah, gotcha, thanks
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  1335. # [23:24] <NeilAway> lduros: also the first one works if configure was changed by an update
  1336. # [23:24] <lduros> hmm, ok
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  1345. # [23:29] <lduros> is there a good page that gives an overview of the structure of FF source by directory etc
  1346. # [23:29] <lduros> it's pretty big and a little hard to dive in just into the source code like that
  1347. # [23:29] <lduros> where to start :-\
  1348. # [23:30] <@smaug> s/pretty big/huge/ ;)
  1349. # [23:30] <@smaug> lduros: I wouldn't start that way
  1350. # [23:30] <jlebar|away> Oh god, I don't even want to comment in bugzilla anymore.
  1351. # [23:31] <jlebar|away> I keep resetting depends flags.
  1352. # [23:31] <jlebar|away> <troll>Tell me again why bugzilla is better than github?</troll>
  1353. # [23:31] <Callek> jlebar|away: it *is*
  1354. # [23:31] <Callek> jlebar|away: github doesn't even have dependancy flags
  1355. # [23:31] <philor> because you can yell directly at the people who will fix bugzilla, on irc.m.o?
  1356. # [23:31] <jlebar|away> Callek, It's true, github does not have this feature where dependency flags randomly break.
  1357. # [23:32] <@smaug> lduros: if you have some feature you want to implement or some problem you want to fix, start looking at the code relevant to it
  1358. # [23:32] <@smaug> not all the code
  1359. # [23:32] <Callek> and this is a regression by glob, which will get fixed monday one way or the other
  1360. # [23:32] <lduros> hehe
  1361. # [23:32] <Callek> aiui
  1362. # [23:32] <@smaug> lduros: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ is your friend
  1363. # [23:32] <lduros> smaug: ah cool :-)
  1364. # [23:32] <lduros> never actually saw the index page for that
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  1366. # [23:32] <lduros> :-)
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  1369. # [23:34] <@smaug> Callek: is there a bug# for this bugzilla regression?
  1370. # [23:34] <dwarfcrank> Yeah, MXR is a really good friend
  1371. # [23:34] <mbrubeck> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756790
  1372. # [23:35] <lduros> hehe
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  1379. # [23:38] <Jesse> jlebar|away: are you using session restore on bugzilla tabs? or reloading them without holding shift?
  1380. # [23:39] <philor> no, he's using a bugzilla with bug 756790 in it
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  1382. # [23:40] <Jesse> oh
  1383. # [23:40] <Jesse> i guess i need to stay out of bugzilla until that's fixed
  1384. # [23:41] <philor> eh, it's easy enough to see that your submit is "checking for dependency changes on ..." and go back and fix them, appears to only happen once per bug
  1385. # [23:41] <philor> nothing wrong with taking a Sunday off, but you don't actually *have* to
  1386. # [23:42] <jlebar|away> That's out-of-character-ly half-full thinking for you, philor. :)
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  1388. # [23:42] <mbrubeck> philor is just highly acclimated to manually working around deficient tools
  1389. # [23:43] <jlebar|away> <-- really away
  1390. # [23:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fb3036d9b9e6 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 756851 - add missing call to object->markIfUnmarked before GCMarker::pushObject. r=billm
  1391. # [23:43] <philor> it's a subtle difference, but "this is shit and being ignored" is what I rage about, not "this is shit and being worked on"
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  1393. # [23:45] <lduros> ok this may sound stupid... but I have just used ./configure && make -- is the binary created located in dist/bin? htat's the only place I can see it
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  1395. # [23:45] <lduros> it says it's nightly
  1396. # [23:45] <lduros> nightly 12, not FF 12
  1397. # [23:46] <lduros> although I used FF12 source... ah well. I guess it's just the way it is
  1398. # [23:46] <Jesse> yes, on windows and linux, you can expect to find your firefox binary in objdir/dist/bin
  1399. # [23:46] <lduros> Jesse: ok :-)
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  1402. # [23:47] <Jesse> wtf why is building ESR making VLC skip
  1403. # [23:47] <bjacob> anyone knows how tell github to serve a html page straight off the git repo?
  1404. # [23:47] <@smaug> lduros: just curious, why you want to build FF12 ?
  1405. # [23:48] <lduros> interest in learning
  1406. # [23:48] <lduros> smaug: also i'm working on GNU IceCat. adding librejs to it, etc, ...
  1407. # [23:48] <lduros> that part is easy to figure out
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  1411. # [23:48] <lduros> smaug: i'm using fossology to check FF12 source too
  1412. # [23:49] <lduros> smaug: so you know, I'm just familiarizing myself with the source
  1413. # [23:49] * @smaug has no idea what IceCAT and librejs are, so can't comment more :)
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  1416. # [23:50] <lduros> smaug: icecat is an unbranded version of firefox, akin to iceweasel
  1417. # [23:50] <@smaug> ah, IceCAT is the old IceWeasel
  1418. # [23:50] <lduros> yes
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  1421. # [23:50] <lduros> and librejs is an extension that detects and blocks nonfree nontrivial JS
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  1424. # [23:50] <@smaug> oh
  1425. # [23:50] <lduros> nonfree == js without license notice written a certain way. which is a minority of scripts online currently.
  1426. # [23:51] <@smaug> really
  1427. # [23:51] <mcsmurf> does not sound very useful, heh
  1428. # [23:51] <@smaug> I would have guessed all the JS from Google and Facebook etc are non-free
  1429. # [23:51] <lduros> yes
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  1433. # [23:51] <lduros> well, pretty much any js that doesn't have clear license statements is considered nonfree
  1434. # [23:51] <lduros> unless it's very trivial
  1435. # [23:51] <@smaug> ah, right
  1436. # [23:52] <lduros> in practice they may be free
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  1438. # [23:52] <lduros> but the goal is to get "webmasters" to be more concerned about license notices
  1439. # [23:52] <lduros> and to consider their javascript files as real pieces of software they should release as free
  1440. # [23:52] <Jesse> if you put a GPL notice on a minified JS file i will hunt you down
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  1443. # [23:53] <lduros> Jesse: you can also add a link on your HTML page, which links to a table where you have pairs your files with licenses
  1444. # [23:53] <lduros> that's accepted also
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  1446. # [23:54] <lduros> anyway, more info is here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
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  1448. # [23:54] <Jesse> oh i like their "// @source:" suggestion
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  1450. # [23:55] <nthomas> Is anyone aware of a bug in Nightly or bugzilla that gives you two dependencies on a bug, and when you remove one it removes both ?
  1451. # [23:56] <Jesse> they want gigantic license notices, though :(
  1452. # [23:56] <nthomas> n/m
  1453. # [23:56] <lduros> Jesse: the only license notice you want is for the html page, then for the external files, you can add a table that lists the files and the canonical urls to their license
  1454. # [23:56] <dzbarsky> nthomas: its a bugzilla bug thats being worked on
  1455. # [23:56] <lduros> Jesse: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/javascript-labels.html
  1456. # [23:57] <lduros> this way you can keep your minified stuff to the minimum number of characters if you want
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