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# Session Start: Sun Jun 03 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:03] <Mano> NeilAway: http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/58c04223b055 fyi.
# [00:04] <Mano> NeilAway: suite/ browser-chrome-tests pass locally, by the way.
# [00:05] <@smaug> Mano: hey, since you're here. I'd like to get bug 758894 fixed for FF15 (well, actually for FF14 too, but no idea about the risky)
# [00:05] <Mano> smaug: the findbar bug?
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# [00:05] <@smaug> yes
# [00:06] <@smaug> leaks are *bad*
# [00:06] <@smaug> because they cause bad cycle collection times
# [00:06] <Mano> saw that, i don't know the highlight code very well (i copied it from blake's ross findbar implementation), so review is a little harder than you think :)
# [00:06] <Mano> and i knows that code sucks.
# [00:06] <Mano> but i'll get it done tomorrow.
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# [00:06] * Mano hopes that's good enough
# [00:06] <@smaug> oh dear, b.ross' code
# [00:06] <Mano> yup
# [00:07] <Mano> it alters the page's dom...
# [00:07] <Mano> anyway, i'll look into this asap
# [00:08] <Mano> did you test highlight after this change?
# [00:08] <@smaug> thanks
# [00:08] <@smaug> yes
# [00:08] <@smaug> and I uploaded the patch to try
# [00:09] <Optimizer> how to check if event.target is a window ?
# [00:10] <@smaug> Optimizer: in JS?
# [00:10] <Optimizer> yes
# [00:10] <@smaug> event.target instanceof Window might work
# [00:10] <Optimizer> from inside an event handler
# [00:10] <Mano> smaug: oh dear, this's just silly
# [00:10] <Optimizer> Window is not defined
# [00:11] <@smaug> depending on where you run the JS
# [00:11] <Mano> smaug: should be very safe
# [00:11] <@smaug> Optimizer: event.target instance of Components.interfaces.nsIDOMWindow
# [00:11] <Mano> the this._foo value is always overriden
# [00:11] <@smaug> something like that
# [00:11] <Mano> so it cannot matter
# [00:11] <@smaug> Mano: yes
# [00:11] <Optimizer> thanks
# [00:11] <@smaug> Mano: the code did look silly
# [00:11] <Mano> yup
# [00:12] <Mano> ok, will mark in a bit.
# [00:12] <@smaug> I was afraid I'm missing something important :)
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# [00:15] <Mano> smaug: ok, so, i found how this happened. your change is find
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# [00:15] <Mano> the code in highlightDoc used to be spitted into few functions
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# [00:19] <@smaug> ah
# [00:19] <Mano> marked
# [00:20] <Mano> smaug: and should be very safe for fx14, imo.
# [00:22] * Mano wonders if that code really needs to create the range using the content document.
# [00:23] <@smaug> Mano: ok, good
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# [00:32] <mbrubeck> gavin: I've been offline so I don't know if it's already been discussed, but your backout on inline has some xpcshell failures
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# [00:35] <philor> mbrubeck: I said so an hour ago, haven't heard from him
# [00:36] <philor> but I'm a couple of hours from a tree
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# [00:40] <philor> the really fun question, since he triggered nightlies on both central and aurora, is whether the test failures are just tests that now have the wrong expectations, or a sign that we're shipping busted dailynightlies
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# [01:00] <gavin> philor, mbrubeck: looking
# [01:00] <gavin> I tested the backout locally
# [01:01] <gavin> functionality is fine, just the tests weren't updated properly
# [01:01] <gavin> so the nightlies will be fine
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# [01:10] <dcamp> billm: around?
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# [01:28] <lduros> when you run make install in linux after building, it will create a standalone copy of dist/bin into dist/APPNAME correct?
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# [01:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82d895d433e9 - Gavin Sharp - Also back out the test changes from bug 720081 that depended on the autocomplete controller changes, a=backout
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# [01:49] <gavin> bustage should be fixed now
# [01:49] <dcamp> woo
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# [02:18] <dherman> any hints as to why the <base href="..."> is being ignored here? http://dherman.github.com/tc39-codex-wiki/
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# [02:20] * NeilAway wonders what dherman is expecting <base href=self> to do
# [02:20] <dherman> ?
# [02:20] <dherman> it's not self
# [02:20] <dherman> <base href="http://dherman.github.com/tc39-codex-wiki/">
# [02:21] <dherman> NeilAway: does <base> not affect URLs like "/foo/bar/baz.html" ?
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# [02:22] <NeilAway> dherman: I give up, how does the base differ from the default base?
# [02:22] <leo> I'm hear to bitch about firefox not compiling
# [02:22] <leo> *here
# [02:22] <leo> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1654407
# [02:22] <NeilAway> phew, I almost bitched about that
# [02:22] <leo> have fun ^ :P
# [02:22] <dherman> NeilAway: I want "/foo/bar" to be replaced with "http://dherman.github.com/tc39-codex-wiki/foo/bar"
# [02:23] <NeilAway> dherman: oh, base won't do that
# [02:23] <leo> (the error's right down at the bottom, just thought you might want to as much of the rest of it that bash decided to keep)
# [02:23] <dherman> NeilAway: so I'd have to write foo/bar ?
# [02:23] <dherman> NeilAway: IOW, the "/" is not treated as relative?
# [02:24] <NeilAway> dherman: now, if you had foo/bar you could use base to move it to /foo/bar
# [02:24] <NeilAway> leo: sorry that's in nspr and last time I had to change something there I got a headache :s
# [02:25] <leo> *sadface*
# [02:25] <leo> it compiled a few days ago
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# [02:26] <NeilAway> dherman: normally if it's relative then it's relative to the page; base just makes it relative to the base
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# [02:26] <leo> hrm...
# [02:26] <dherman> NeilAway: I couldn't sort out the terminology, since there's really two levels of relativity. site-relative and directory-relative
# [02:26] <leo> I think it must have something to do with the fact I had "--enable-gstreamer" set
# [02:26] <dherman> anyway, I get it now, thx
# [02:26] <NeilAway> dherman: if it begins with / then base can only change the host; if it begins with // then base can only change the protocol
# [02:26] <leo> it's compiling now that I don't have it set
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# [02:27] <NeilAway> leo: weird
# [02:27] <leo> yeah
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# [02:29] <darktrojan> dherman, /foo/bar is an absolute path on the same host as the page (or the base)
# [02:29] <dherman> k
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# [02:29] <dherman> I mean, I understand the ideas, just didn't know the terminology
# [02:30] <dherman> I thought that was still "relative" in the sense that it's relative to the host
# [02:30] <NeilAway> dherman: actually there's a third leve, protocol-relative
# [02:30] <NeilAway> +l
# [02:30] <dherman> which is spelled // ?
# [02:31] <dherman> I mean to say, "...which is spelled //, yes?"
# [02:31] <darktrojan> yeah
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# [02:32] <darktrojan> heh
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# [02:35] <dherman> sigh. the real solution for me would be to modify the links when generating the HTML, which means I node-module-depended-on-by-a-node-module-depended-on-by-me needs to change :(
# [02:35] <dherman> s/I/a/
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# [07:35] <Mavericks> so, hg clone <moz-central> ends halfway unexpectedly, firefox download manager says download's finished at 70/370 mb
# [07:36] <Mavericks> wget wins! , unexpected end, byte read error or something, retries, downloads, retries downloads , and finally all in onepiece
# [07:36] <Mavericks> :)
# [07:36] <Mavericks> so, now according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_Source_Code_%28Mercurial%29#Bundles
# [07:37] <Mavericks> Add the following lines to the file src/.hg/hgrc but I already have one in the parent same same directory moz-central is present
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# [08:23] <Jesse> is there a bug report on that? i've also had firefox think it's done downloading something when it's not
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# [11:38] <Optimizer> How can I get indexedDB without using window.indexedDB ?
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# [11:39] <Optimizer> from a chrome script point of view
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# [12:06] <AryehGregor> philor|away, what does the red here mean for Win opt? The error doesn't look related to my changes. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e43426497607
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# [12:09] <Unfocused> AryehGregor: that looks suspiciously like a slave config issue, i'd suggest filing a bug
# [12:09] <nthomas> AryehGregor: that should be fixed now, config problem for the build slave
# [12:09] * Unfocused does the "i was right" dance
# [12:09] <AryehGregor> Thanks!
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# [12:15] <jdm> Optimizer: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/indexedDB/nsIIndexedDatabaseManager.idl -> initWindowless looks useful
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# [12:20] <AryehGregor> So if I want to accept a type of A::B as a parameter, "void A::f(B)" works, but if I want to return one, "B A::f()" is a compile error and I have to write "A::B A::f()"?
# [12:20] <AryehGregor> Yay for C++?
# [12:21] <evilpie> feeling reasonable awesome after writing a patch for toolkit and netwerk after never looking at that code before
# [12:22] <Ms2ger> evilpie, you don't have r+ yet, do you? ;)
# [12:22] <evilpie> no
# [12:22] <evilpie> but hey at least it works
# [12:22] <evilpie> bug 760951 & bug 471020
# [12:23] <Optimizer> jdm: So if I dovar idbManager = Cc[mozilla.org/dom/indexeddb/manager;1"].getService(Ci.nsIIndexedDatabaseManager);
# [12:23] <Optimizer> idbManager.initWindowless(myGlobal);
# [12:23] <Optimizer> myGlobal will be the database ?
# [12:23] <Ms2ger> The global object, I think
# [12:23] <Ms2ger> |this|, that is
# [12:23] <jdm> Optimizer: myGlobal will have the mozIndexedDB object defined on it
# [12:24] <Ms2ger> s/object/property/
# [12:24] <Optimizer> oh
# [12:24] <Optimizer> exactly like window.mozIndexedDB
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# [12:25] <sawrubh> jdm: the tests which I will need to change are these I guess are the last 5 entries on this page here : http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=usePrivateBrowsing . I am talking regarding 748477
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# [12:26] <jdm> sawrubh: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=privateWindow+%3D&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central is a much more useful search
# [12:26] <Optimizer> jdm: where will I get IDBKeyRange from them ? :(
# [12:26] <jdm> Optimizer: try reading the comment for that method in the IDL :)
# [12:26] <Optimizer> ah
# [12:26] <jdm> sawrubh: you need to change the tests that use the privateWindow setter
# [12:27] <Optimizer> but I want IDBCursor too
# [12:27] <sawrubh> jdm: oops, you are right :)
# [12:28] <sawrubh> about the search
# [12:28] <sawrubh> :P
# [12:28] <Ms2ger> jdm, no memes? :(
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# [12:29] <jdm> Ms2ger: if you could petition the tumblr interface to actually work in a logical manner, I would meme more often
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# [12:32] <Optimizer> jdm IDBCursors ?
# [12:33] <jdm> Optimizer: shrug! I'm just doing some searches for you; I don't actually know anything about what I'm finding.
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# [12:33] <Optimizer> :D
# [12:33] <Optimizer> I also looked into the c++ code for the initwindowless, it only defines keywanges and indexedDB
# [12:35] <Optimizer> indexedDB are mysterious, nobody knows about them
# [12:36] <Optimizer> Aha, I need IDBCursor only to get a const int from it, I can directly use 0 instead :P
# [12:40] <smontagu> what is the built-in profiler of which bug 760954 comment 0 speaks?
# [12:41] <Unfocused> smontagu: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
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# [12:43] <smontagu> thx
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# [15:05] <leo> yay! I have more build errors: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1654627
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# [15:06] <Ms2ger> leo, did your computer shut down while compiling?
# [15:07] <leo> oh, yeah, it crashed halfway through the last time I tried to build
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> That would be it
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> Remove objdir/content/base/src/nsXMLHttpRequest.o, and try again
# [15:07] <leo> okay, thanks
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> Np
# [15:08] <leo> :)
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# [15:10] <leo> Ms2ger: right, so, I got another "file truncated" error, I guess I just remove the file it's saying is truncated again, right?
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# [15:14] <@smaug> what is build/pylib/blessings/blessings.egg-info/PKG-INFO ?
# [15:14] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: can you explain how did you guess that his laptop shutdown.
# [15:14] <leo> sawrubh: how did you know it was a laptop? :O
# [15:14] <leo> :P
# [15:14] <sawrubh> leo: sorry , computer
# [15:14] <sawrubh> :P
# [15:15] <leo> it *is* a laptop though
# [15:15] <sawrubh> heh
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# [15:16] <@smaug> always feels strange when someone calls me Ollie
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# [15:17] <smontagu> Ollie++
# [15:17] <@smaug> calling me smaug is much more natural :)
# [15:18] <sawrubh> smaug: New Now Know How :)
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# [15:20] <@smaug> no dcamp here
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# [15:23] <@smaug> and at least one unknown failure
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# [15:24] <@smaug> oh dear
# [15:24] <@smaug> orion uses mutation events
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# [15:30] <robcee> wait what?
# [15:31] <robcee> smaug: where?
# [15:31] <@smaug> robcee: somewhere here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/sourceeditor/orion/orion.js#7029
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# [15:32] <robcee> wonderful
# [15:32] <@smaug> robcee: do you happen to know about the recent fx-team to m-c merge?
# [15:32] <@smaug> there is at least one unknown failure
# [15:33] <@smaug> OSX opt
# [15:33] <@smaug> Mochitest-o
# [15:33] <robcee> yeah, I'm looking now
# [15:33] <@smaug> thanks
# [15:33] <robcee> we landed a bunch of debugger code yesterday
# [15:33] <robcee> we'll mark it up
# [15:33] <robcee> doesn't look like it's a consistent failure
# [15:34] <@smaug> robcee: btw, I filed Bug 760980
# [15:34] <@smaug> robcee: well, random failure is even more annoying :)
# [15:34] <robcee> oh I know
# [15:34] <robcee> ah thanks
# [15:35] <robcee> msucan: see smaug's bug up there ^^
# [15:35] <msucan> yep
# [15:35] <msucan> thank you smaug!
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# [15:36] <msucan> smaug: please do note that the mutation listener is added to the parent iframe that holds orion
# [15:36] <msucan> it's not added to orion's own iframe that displays the source being edited
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# [15:36] <msucan> and we wrap orion inside an iframe which is never really changed (two nested iframes)
# [15:37] <@smaug> k
# [15:37] <msucan> the upcoming orion update will remove its own iframe, which means we'll no longer have two nested iframes
# [15:37] <msucan> and hopefully they removed the mutation listener as well (will check when i do the update)
# [15:38] <@smaug> msucan: I noticed the problem since there devtools seem to cause warning about mutation events
# [15:38] <robcee> well, if you end up sending some patches up with your next update, you can include that in the list of things we should fix
# [15:38] <@smaug> s/there//
# [15:38] <msucan> true
# [15:38] <msucan> robcee: yep
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# [15:49] <jtcranmer> is the proper modeline for emacs 'Mode: Javascript' or 'Mode: JavaScript' ?
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# [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d2bf31e62b72 - Olli Pettay - Bug 758894 - 'Highlight all' feature causes zombie compartments, r=mano
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# [16:06] <robcee> jtcranmer: /* -*- Mode: js2; js2-basic-offset: 2; indent-tabs-mode: nil; -*- */
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# [16:08] <robcee> Unfocused: http://www.flickr.com/photos/swedish_heritage_board/5516993121/
# [16:08] <robcee> whups, wrong channel!
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# [16:12] <jtcranmer> robcee: not anything else?
# [16:12] * jtcranmer wonders why this isn't on devmo
# [16:12] <robcee> you should add it!
# [16:13] <jtcranmer> is it just me
# [16:13] <jtcranmer> or does every file I open have a different modeline?
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# [16:15] <jtcranmer> excluding the C++/Java incorrect ones
# [16:16] <jtcranmer> I've seen Javascript, JavaScript, and javascript
# [16:21] <past> I think there are quite a few JavaScipt mode implementations for Emacs, and js2 seems to be the most fashionable lately
# [16:21] <robcee> "lately"
# [16:21] <robcee> for like, 5 years :)
# [16:22] <past> ok, I'm old, I admin it!
# [16:22] <past> I even admit it
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# [16:26] <robcee> that's ok. old is the new 20.
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# [16:32] <leo> hrm, so I'm trying to compile mozilla-central with support for gstreamer, I add "ac_add_options --enable-gstreamer" to my .mozconfig, compile firefox... and it doesn't work
# [16:33] <leo> (H.264 <video> won't play and nothing appears under "Configure arguments" in about:buildconfig)
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# [16:33] <jdm> leo: bug 760899
# [16:33] <jdm> oh
# [16:34] <leo> firebot: bug 760899
# [16:34] <jdm> you got a working build, nevermind
# [16:34] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760899 nor, --, ---, stephen.moehle, ASSI, Cannot build debug Firefox with gstreamer enabled
# [16:34] <leo> oh, :P
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# [16:34] <leo> jdm: wait, if I change my mozconfig do I have to clear my objdir?
# [16:34] <jdm> leo: shouldn't have to.
# [16:35] <leo> hrm.
# [16:35] <jdm> might not hurt
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# [16:50] <@smaug> robcee: it very much looks like fx-team to m-c merge caused permanent orange
# [16:51] <@smaug> or almost
# [16:51] <@smaug> robcee: any chance to backout the merge? or some part of it?
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# [16:54] <past> smaug: which orange are you referring to?
# [16:54] <@smaug> linux pgo looks quite common
# [16:54] <robcee> smaug: yeah, but they're all different :/
# [16:54] <past> yes, but that is unrelated to this merge
# [16:54] <@smaug> 4 of the failures are about tilt
# [16:55] <robcee> yeah, victor's working on that
# [16:55] <@smaug> k
# [16:55] <robcee> something upped the frequency on those failures on linux
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# [17:17] <jesup> can anyone with a mac (mine arrives tomorrow) do a (cd /usr/include; grep -r IPPROTO_SCTP *)? Thanks
# [17:18] <derf> jesup: Nada.
# [17:19] <sheeri> jesup - scabral-07890:~ scabral$ cd /usr/include; grep -r IPPROTO_SCTP *
# [17:19] <sheeri> grep: gcc/darwin/default: No such file or directory
# [17:19] <sheeri> netinet/in.h:#define IPPROTO_SCTP 132 /* SCTP */
# [17:19] <sheeri> scabral-07890:include scabral$
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# [17:19] <sheeri> jesup I have Mac OS X 10.7.4 (snow leopard)
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# [17:20] <derf> Isn't 10.7 Lion, not Snow Leopard?
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# [17:20] <sheeri> oh right! derf, I am on lion
# [17:20] <sheeri> my brain thought "the newest one" and my fingers typed SL :D
# [17:20] <derf> _I'm_ on Snow Leopard, with a fairly old (at this point) Xcode (4.0).
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# [17:29] <ekr> Is it intentional that RefPtr is in mozilla:: and Scoped is not?
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# [17:32] <derf> I think you'd have to ask Waldo.
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# [17:53] <prazuber> Does somebody know, is there a way I can have nsXULTooltipListener object in my code?
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# [17:55] <_AtilA_> Have a question about nsRefreshDriver, What's meant to do? It's about graphics refreh rate ?
# [17:57] <_AtilA_> It finally triggers an Invalidate that causes screen to be painted
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# [18:13] <Ms2ger> ekr, Scoped is not?
# [18:13] <jviereck> is that just me or can't we cancel print jobs from Firefox? I see this progress bar and click "cancel", but the pages still get printed
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# [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e7ca047b71b2 - Mats Palmgren - Merge backout
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# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9f81724d820e - Mats Palmgren - Back out bug 575294, bug 726264. (cset 1727de7d26ec, 6bcea3a628d8, 011c1c8e9cc7, 0be261a5042b, d51338c5cd0c)
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# [18:20] <ekr> Ms2ger: if I am reading the code and my tests correctly, no
# [18:20] <ekr> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Scoped.h
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Gah
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Yooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Could you file a bug on that? Core::MFBT
# [18:20] <ekr> Ms2ger: I don't recognize the reference
# [18:20] <ekr> sure
# [18:21] <derf> Yoric is a person.
# [18:21] <Ms2ger> Yoric implemented the Scoped class
# [18:21] <Ms2ger> Also, a character in Hamlet
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# [18:23] <ekr> while I am asking mfbt questions: does it seem bad to others that you can do: mozilla::RefPtr<T> t; delete t; This is possible because RefPtr implements the implicit conversion to T * [ operator T* () ]. By contrast, std::tr1::shared_ptr<> throws a compile time error here.
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# [18:26] <ekr> my concern here is that there seems to be no legitimate reason to delete a RefPtr<T>, and so it should be a compile-time error.
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# [18:30] <Ms2ger> ekr, does it require .get() whenever you need the pointer?
# [18:30] <ekr> Ms2ger: it appears to me that std::tr1::shared_ptr<> does and RefPtr<> does not
# [18:31] <Ms2ger> I'll say that I prefer RefPtr, then :)
# [18:31] <ekr> I think this is actually the source of the difference.
# [18:31] <Ms2ger> Right
# [18:32] <ekr> Not sure I agree, but I can see how one would feel that way. If we had some clever way of keeping the non-get() behavior while detecting improper frees, would people think that was worthwhile?
# [18:33] <Ms2ger> Maybe
# [18:33] <Ms2ger> After all, you can always do foo(refptr.get()), where foo deletes the object
# [18:33] <ekr> Of course.
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# [18:33] <ekr> Actually, we could stop that too.
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> Some way to make delete private on refcounted classes would be more useful, IMO
# [18:34] <glandium> and forbid free in c++
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# [18:35] <jtcranmer> Ms2ger: fix NS_DECL_ISUPPORTS to make it add in a private: operator delete ?
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> And disallow stack-allocating them
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, hmm, you don't need to know the derived class name for that?
# [18:36] <jtcranmer> or we could restart our static checking initiatives and run them on tinderbox :-P
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> Heh
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# [18:36] <ekr> This seems sort of promising. Basically, I spent some time debugging stuff over on media where pointers were being raw deleted and also smart-ptr deleted, and it would be nice if that were harder to do.
# [18:36] <ekr> so I'm open to anything that makes it harder :)
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> I wonder if that's possible with mfbt RefCounted<>
# [18:37] <ekr> another possibility would be to do a run-time assert where Release() sets some bit that is then checked in ~T
# [18:37] <ekr> But I dom
# [18:37] <ekr> '
# [18:38] <jtcranmer> Ms2ger: void operator delete(void*);
# [18:38] <ekr> n't really see any way in which that is superior to private: ~T
# [18:39] <Ms2ger> I'd be interested to see what a patch adding that to NS_DECL_ISUPPORTS would catch...
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# [19:07] <dman> Hy everybody
# [19:07] <dman> Tomorow I get new pc and I decided I want to start contributing to Firefox
# [19:07] <dman> So I was wondering what is better or more suitable platform to develop Firefox on. Linux or Windows?
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# [19:10] <IanN> both are equally valid, depends which you are most comfortable developing on
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# [19:11] <Ms2ger> Though, as a Linux user, I tend to prefer Linux :)
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# [19:14] <IanN> i find Linux easier to set up for building
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# [19:17] <dman> Well, until now I was mostly windows user because I'm .NET developer. But I would like to learn some C++ to get onto Firefox development. I like Linux quite a lot but It seems I can't pull myself away from windows :)
# [19:18] <mimcpher> dman: Most of the difficulty I had in getting firefox on windows compiling was installing visual studio, the Windows SDKs, and things. So if you're already comfortaable in that sort of world, there's no need to give it up.
# [19:18] <IanN> small steps I guess, start with Windows and then upgrade to Linux later ;)
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# [19:21] <dman> It is possible for me to contribute to ff since I'm not very proficient with c++. I mean I now some basics from school buy I'd like to change that, and I was thinking that ff project could be very good motivation to learn c++
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# [19:23] <Ms2ger> I learned C++ by working on Firefox, myself
# [19:24] <IanN> dman: look at the bugs that are marked with "[good first bug]" in the whiteboard field (also "[lang=c++]"
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# [19:26] <Ms2ger> IanN, you're out of date, it's [mentor= now :)
# [19:26] <dman> wow, thanks for motivation and help.
# [19:26] <dman> I am really happy that there is some stuff to do for people like me :)
# [19:26] <dman> I cant wait to get started tomorow
# [19:26] <IanN> Ms2ger: still a good few bugs that still have good first bug in though
# [19:27] <Ms2ger> Have a look at http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
# [19:28] <IanN> dman: ^^^
# [19:29] <dman> thanks for the link it looks really cool to pick up bugs like that
# [19:29] <dman> just bookmarked it :)
# [19:29] <dman> Ms2ger: which one is out of date [lang=c++] or [good first bug]
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> [good first bug] is
# [19:30] <dman> ok, thanks
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> But with Josh's tool, you don't really need to look at those annotations anymore
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# [19:35] <dman> If I may ask where and how is the best way to get familiar with mozilla codebase. And to get started with developing for ff.
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction maybe
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> IMO, the main thing to know about the code base is that it's *huge*
# [19:36] <Ms2ger> There are maybe two people who have a good idea of how most of the C++ code fits together
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# [19:38] <dman> then I suppose Its best for me to focus only on some sub-modules
# [19:39] <dman> so If I need some additional info/help on bug that I would like to work on I should find more or less all information on developer.mozilla.org?
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# [19:41] <IanN> that or from the mentor mentioned in the whiteboard of the bug
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# [19:43] <dman> IanN: thanks
# [19:45] <dman> ..it's good to know that I can ask a mentor directly
# [19:46] <dman> I just checked-out introduction link on developers.mozilla.org it is really helpfull
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# [19:48] <dman> Thank you guys for info/direction and to not dismiss a noob like me. Hopefully I will start contributing small patches soon :)
# [19:50] <Ms2ger> Welcome!
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# [19:53] <Ms2ger> G'morning, philor
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# [20:02] <firebot> shorlander was last seen 4 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying 'iNerd: what kind of graphics are you interested in designing?' in #ux.
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# [20:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/48918f0df283 - Jan Varga - Bug 726593 - Implement FileHandle. r=bent
# [20:23] <janv> finally
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# [20:25] <janv> that shouldn't happen :)
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# [20:53] <Callek> wth is up with IDBCursor for me
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# [20:55] <Callek> e:/builds/slave/comm-cen-trunk-w32/build/mozilla/dom/indexedDB/IDBCursor.cpp(42) : error C2872: 'ipc' : ambiguous symbol
# [20:55] <Callek> could be 'mozilla::dom::indexedDB::ipc'
# [20:55] <Callek> or 'mozilla::ipc'
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# [20:58] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [21:15] <Optimizer> Callek: Are you an indexedDB guy ?
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# [21:15] <Callek> Optimizer: no, I'm not, but I did just notice an indexedDB build bustage
# [21:15] <Optimizer> oh
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# [21:16] <Optimizer> can you point me to someone who could help me a little ?
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# [21:16] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, bent and khuey|pto-until-june-4
# [21:16] <Ms2ger> And sicking
# [21:16] <Optimizer> nobody actually here to help :(
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# [21:18] <Optimizer> sometimes I open a database with "NAME_TIMESTAMP" and the previously left databases also gets opened with it, whose name is totally different and when I read a lower bound data, data from previous database is read
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# [21:19] <Optimizer> then I have to go and delete the sqlite files manually
# [21:20] <janv> Optimizer: file a bug and cc bent, khuey and janv
# [21:21] <Optimizer> okay
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# [21:21] <Optimizer> component ?
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# [21:22] <janv> dom: indexeddb
# [21:22] <Optimizer> got it
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# [21:31] <Optimizer> janv: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761012
# [21:31] <janv> ok, thanks
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# [21:36] <janv> Optimizer: the db name is always unique ?
# [21:36] <Optimizer> yes
# [21:36] <Optimizer> the name is created according to the comment i mage
# [21:36] <Optimizer> made*
# [21:37] <janv> hmm
# [21:37] <Optimizer> "some-predefined-text" + (new Date()).getTime()
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# [21:38] <Optimizer> it happens occasionally, and I think, only when somehow either the database is not closed properly or deleted properly, either due to some other code's ealry exit due to an exception, or indexedDB early exit due to an exception
# [21:39] <janv> yeah, it can happen that the db is not deleted
# [21:39] <janv> but if you use a different name then a new one should be created (next time)
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# [21:40] <Optimizer> yeah
# [21:40] <janv> maybe the hashing function gives the same filename
# [21:40] <Optimizer> so I think the not being able to delete the db rashes something
# [21:40] <Optimizer> hashing function ?
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# [21:41] <janv> there's a hashing function that creates a filename from db name
# [21:41] <Optimizer> I manually added a prompt so as to check if I am passing the different name to the DataStore constructor
# [21:41] <Optimizer> oh
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# [21:41] <Optimizer> how to check that ?
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# [21:42] <janv> you should see a new xxx.sqlite created each time you open database
# [21:42] <Optimizer> nopes
# [21:42] <Optimizer> new does not gets created
# [21:43] <Optimizer> neither the one that was just created after I deleted all files, gets deleted when I try to delete the database
# [21:43] <Optimizer> this happens even when everything is working fine
# [21:44] <Optimizer> I can check this right now, I am getting the problem again, so Now I got and manually delete the sqlite file
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# [21:45] <janv> could you give me two db names ?
# [21:45] <Optimizer> as in ?
# [21:45] <janv> I mean the prefix and timestamp
# [21:46] <janv> some real db name you are using
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# [21:46] <Optimizer> okay
# [21:47] <Optimizer> timeline-database-1338752305903
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# [21:47] <Optimizer> timeline-database-1338752317607
# [21:48] <janv> ok, checking the hash function right now
# [21:48] <Optimizer> these are program generated names from two tries I just did
# [21:48] <Optimizer> but the thing is, it does not occur always
# [21:48] <janv> I can imagine
# [21:48] <Optimizer> around 50% time things work as they are supposed to
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# [21:53] <janv> Optimizer: those db names give two different file names
# [21:53] <philor> somebody sg: please tell https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746103 "https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/907a48923ab4" and resolve it fixed if it looks like it wants to be
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# [21:53] <gavin> philor: done
# [21:53] <philor> thx
# [21:54] <Optimizer> was one of the file name this : 1626091718udnedneif ?
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# [21:54] <janv> no
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# [21:54] <janv> 2173048386t3i0m9e5l0i3n2e5-7d8a and 3111771277t7i0m6e7l1i3n2e5-7d8a
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# [21:55] <janv> Optimizer: what's your platform ?
# [21:55] <Optimizer> windows 7
# [21:56] <Optimizer> these files should be in profile directory > indexedDB > chrome , right ?
# [21:56] <philor> poor cedricv - so close to making that merge, and only the horrors of Android reftests away from having had an all-green push in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=ddbc87ee85e4
# [21:56] <Optimizer> I am working from a chrome script
# [21:56] <janv> yes
# [21:56] <janv> they end with .sqlite
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# [21:57] <Optimizer> ok so using this db name : timeline-database-1338752893702 , I get this file name : 1626091718udnedneif.sqlite
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# [21:58] <Optimizer> so basically even If I delete the sqlite, make a new db using a new name, the file name is always same
# [21:58] <Optimizer> damn
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# [22:00] <Optimizer> Aahhh, I got my mistake
# [22:00] <Optimizer> janv: I am closing the bug now :P
# [22:00] <janv> heh
# [22:00] <janv> ok
# [22:02] <Optimizer> thanks for your help
# [22:02] <janv> np
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# [22:09] <zzzzz> any chance someone could check-in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752676 so it can get some bake time before the uplift tomorrow ?
# [22:10] <zzzzz> otherwise, pdf.js is going to suck for those jumping on Aurora when they can't turn it off
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# [22:13] <Optimizer> janv: now if I look at the file name that was being created : "1626091718udnedneif.sqlite", remove the number part "udnedneif", moved the alphabets here and there, I get this : "undefined"
# [22:14] <Optimizer> which was exactly the case, does the hashing function makes an anagram kind of thing ?
# [22:16] <janv> maybe
# [22:17] <janv> the function is called HashString()
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# [22:17] <jfkthame> zzzzz: what exactly are you expecting to be checked-in there? i see two patches but it's not clear that both have been r+'d
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# [22:18] <Jesse> zzzzz: one of the patches is to pdf.js, what are the rules for those changes? do they go in github?
# [22:19] <zzzzz> jfkthame: no idea - didn't realize there were two patches
# [22:19] <zzzzz> Jesse: no idea
# [22:19] <zzzzz> guess we wait for the patch-writer to clarify
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# [22:26] <gavin> zzzzz: don't worry, bdahl is on it
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# [22:26] <zzzzz> gavin: thanks
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# [22:30] <Optimizer> zzzzz: This one's for you www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
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# [22:32] <KWierso> zzzzz, Jesse: looks like both of those patches are for mozilla-central. One's just taking stuff from the upstream pdfjs github repository and putting it downstream into /browser/extensions/pdfjs, and the other's doing stuff elsewhere in m-c...
# [22:32] <zzzzz> Optimizer: haha
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# [22:40] <zzzzz> KWierso: help me out here - looking at the path in comment #32 - appears to me its not been reviewed ? does it need to be ?> I'm so not good at this stuff, but I understand some or I wouldn't be asking :P
# [22:41] <zzzzz> errr comment 31
# [22:42] <KWierso> zzzzz: the previous version of the patch got r+ already, so I assume they're just carrying the r+ forward
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# [22:43] <zzzzz> ok
# [22:43] <zzzzz> makes sense - somewhat
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# [22:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7e578ad2c6f9 - Panos Astithas - Bug 737808 - Separate breakpoints and scripts handling in the client from the server; r=rcampbell
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ec971b2d6a30 - Paul Rouget - Bug 757477 - [Responsive Mode] restore previous size / preset. r=dcamp
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aba0194d088f - Victor Porof - Bug 759157 - Intermittent browser_tilt_02_notifications.js, browser_tilt_03_tab_switch.js, browser_tilt_04_initialization.js, browser_tilt_picking_miv.js,
# [22:51] <firebot> browser_tilt_picking_highlight01.js | Exited with code 1, timed out after 330 seconds, could not initialize Tilt; r=rcampbell
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/482e07a4fb05 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 664688 - JavaScript evaluation "permission denied" after navigation to a different domain; r=past
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e60ac3f6119d - Panos Astithas - Bug 757282 - Pause when an exception is hit; r=rcampbell
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ebd52606c461 - Tim Taubert - Bug 742047 - Part 1 - Create SessionStorage.jsm and migrate existing code; r=zpao
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7dded40bb32b - Rob Campbell - Bug 761007 - Intermittent failure in browser_tilt_ | Exited with code 1 during test run or NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure at resource:///modules/devtools/TiltGL.jsm:1316 followed by other
# [22:51] <firebot> errors and out of memory on Linux Opt; a=TESTONLY
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0e4f8e1a141b - Rob Campbell - merge m-c to fx-team
# [22:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/329aa567fec9 - Tim Taubert - Bug 742047 - Part 2 - Refactor SessionStorage.jsm and its API; r=zpao
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# [23:21] <jdm> anybody know if the integrated JS debugger supports chrome debugging yet?
# [23:22] <jdm> hmm, what's this Browser Debugger webdev tool?
# [23:22] <jdm> doesn't seem to do anything
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# [23:28] <lduros> what's the best way to make a build with extensions enabled? Is it to add extension directories to browser/branding/unofficial/extensions -- or is there a better way
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# [23:31] <mbrubeck> lduros: I'd look at /browser/app/profile/extensions if you want to bundle extensions with the browser
# [23:32] <lduros> yeh, so these get copied over when you run ./configure && make and then make install? :-)
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# [23:32] <lduros> mbrubeck: I've some extensions in browser/branding/unofficial/extensions, when I run make it gets placed properly in dist/bin/extensions, but then with make install, it doesn't get copied anymore
# [23:32] <lduros> to my horror
# [23:32] <lduros> :-)
# [23:33] <lduros> I'll test the path you provided.
# [23:33] <lduros> thanks much
# [23:34] <anant> mbrubeck: hi, ping
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# [23:51] <past> jdm: the UI is there (hidden beneath devtools.chrome.enabled) but the platform APIs arent't ready yet
# [23:51] <jdm> what a shame
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# [23:51] <past> we'll get there
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