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# [00:22] <Standard8> anyone familiar with mt.exe? I'm trying to update a manifest, but as soon as I do so its saying that the exe is failing the CRC check
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# [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dd6ec482a85d - Marco Bonardo - Bug 720081 - Part 1: backportable solution for autocomplete controller to provide a different final defaultComplete value for typeAheadResults
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# [01:32] <derf> njn: That's funny... bugzilla has been logging me out constantly ever since the BrowserID stuff went in.
# [01:33] <derf> But only on my desktop at the office.
# [01:33] <njn> derf: even if you don't use the BrowserID login?
# [01:33] <derf> Yes.
# [01:33] <derf> I've never used it.
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# [01:40] <scientes_> are you guys using the same library chromium uses for webrtc?
# [01:40] <scientes_> wheres the source? http://paulrouget.com/e/getUserMedia/
# [01:40] <scientes_> / bug
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# [01:41] <ekr> scientes: getusermedia and webrtc are being discussed primarily on #media
# [01:43] <ekr> scientes_: but to answer your question, the webrtc implementation will include a bunch of the webrtc.org code that Google is using
# [01:43] <scientes_> but be a fork?
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# [01:44] <derf> We work pretty closely with upstream to keep things from diverging.
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# [01:45] <ekr> scientes_: the person to ask here is jesup on #media, but my understanding is that we are treating the webrtc.org code like any other upstream dependency. there may be some local changes, either for compatibility or as we develop features in advance, but we plan to re-submit them.
# [01:45] <ekr> Which I think is what derf just said
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# [01:45] <scientes_> derf, thank you
# [01:46] <derf> I don't think we have any committed changes that aren't upstream outside the build system.
# [01:46] <scientes_> that was exactly what I was asking
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# [01:46] <ekr> derf: what's the status of opus?
# [01:46] <scientes_> so it could concievably be the same shared library between both browsers
# [01:46] <derf> ekr: The patches are still pretty preliminary, and need a lot of work.
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# [01:46] <scientes_> i saw alot of opus bugs on the mentor-available list
# [01:47] <derf> (for WebRTC... the <audio> tag support is pretty solid now)
# [01:47] <derf> scientes_: I think the only remaining one is multichannel support.
# [01:47] <ekr> scientes_: looking at the way things are being built, I would expect no. I.e., the webrtc.org code is part of gkmedias.
# [01:47] <ekr> Not standalone
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# [01:47] <derf> scientes_: We also don't use the same build configuration as Chrome.
# [01:48] <scientes_> well they have their own crazy build system (gyp)
# [01:48] <derf> I.e., Chrome has its own capture code and I assume doesn't build the code in the webrtc library.
# [01:48] <derf> But we do.
# [01:48] <scientes_> also, does webrtc build on arm?
# [01:48] <derf> Yes.
# [01:48] <scientes_> ok
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# [01:49] <derf> \o/
# [01:51] * @khuey wonders which part of 'pto-until-june-4' Ms2ger didn't understand
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# [01:51] <scientes_> your only one day off
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# [01:52] <@khuey> well, it's june 4 in his timezone ;-)
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# [01:55] <ekr> khuey: so it's ok if we call you at 12:01 anywhere on earth?
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# [01:56] <@khuey> you can try
# [01:56] <@khuey> it's unlikely to succeed though
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# [02:00] <derf> I'll take those odds.
# [02:01] <ekr> Remind me where you live again? We'll send smith over
# [02:01] <ekr> s/smith/bsmith/
# [02:01] <@khuey> uh
# [02:01] <@khuey> somewhere in Santa Clara
# [02:01] <@khuey> lets go with that
# [02:01] <ekr> oh, if it's santa clara, then I'm closer :)
# [02:02] <ekr> You would probably be happier with bsmith.
# [02:02] <@khuey> I have a response for that, but it's not appropriate for a public logged channel
# [02:03] <bsmith> I know where khuey lives and I'm looking through his window now
# [02:03] <@khuey> uh huh
# [02:04] <bsmith> khuey: you are not very good at PTO
# [02:04] <@khuey> actually I was pretty good about it this time
# [02:05] <@khuey> I only did work stuff once, for about 10 minutes, during my entire vacation
# [02:06] <bsmith> That is good
# [02:09] <ekr> that is pretty good. the last time I managed even that well was when I was backpacking in Yosemite for a few days and had no cell coverage. of course as soon as I got back in the Valley I started getting SMSes
# [02:10] <@khuey> well I was in Big Sur with no cell coverage ;-)
# [02:10] <ekr> a good plan. where did you stay?
# [02:10] <@khuey> amazing what getting away from civilization can do for you
# [02:11] <@khuey> I drove down to cambria and spent a night there and then worked my way back up
# [02:11] <@khuey> spent a couple nights at some inn off highway one that had a vacancy
# [02:11] <ekr> I know cambria--my brother got married there.
# [02:11] <bsmith> while you were gone, ted suggested using gyp for mozilla-central
# [02:11] <@khuey> it's a nice little town
# [02:11] <ekr> Indeed.
# [02:12] <@khuey> also I think I found the most expensive gas in America
# [02:13] <@khuey> there was a little dinky place in the middle of big sur that wanted 5.79 for a gallon
# [02:13] <ekr> Could be, though the gas station in Ely Nevada is pretty expensive
# [02:13] <@khuey> is that also the only gas station for 50 miles in every direction?
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# [02:14] <ekr> yeah, pretty much.
# [02:14] <bsmith> probably a liberal conspiracy against the working class
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# [02:14] <ekr> at least it was in 1992 when I rode US 50 on a motorcycle and we had to have spare gas cans to make sure we didn't run out of gas on 50
# [02:15] <@khuey> heh
# [02:16] <ekr> (typical range on a 1980s era 400-cc moto is order 150 miles)
# [02:18] <felipe> glandium: ping
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# [02:23] <felipe> khuey: is there something obviously wrong with this line? https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/28aad0de1ed3#l2.12
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# [02:24] <felipe> it's meant to skip Qt
# [02:24] <@khuey> felipe: there's an extra 'test' in there?
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# [02:25] <felipe> indeed
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# [02:26] <felipe> khuey: though, I guess it's also wrong in that it needs to wrap the -a Linux -o gtk2 in parantheses
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# [02:27] <@khuey> felipe: why can't you just test for MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT = "qt" and nothing else?
# [02:28] <felipe> dunno, I believe it was trying to be explicit about the supported platforms.. since it's set as =1 by default for simplicity somewhere else
# [02:28] <felipe> do parens work as expected there? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1654871
# [02:29] <felipe> actually I believe it should be -a inside too
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# [02:29] <felipe> hmm I'm confused, it's sunday
# [02:30] <felipe> oh no, -o is correct
# [02:31] <@khuey> you may need to escape the parens
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# [02:40] <felipe> hmm parens don't group conditions together
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# [02:52] * njn can't find Michael Lopp's talk on Air Mozilla
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# [03:24] <jesup> njn: I think he didn't want it generally available. It may be available to moco via a private channel, not sure
# [03:25] <njn> jesup: I know. I have the password. The email explaining this just said "it's available on Air Mozilla, protected by a password"
# [03:29] <jesup> Anyone available who can review a small Android patch? (Bug 738528)
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# [03:33] <jesup> njn: you may be able to figure out the 'normal' naming structure by looking at other videos and guess the correct URL. Maybe.
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# [05:14] <philor> where do I file "we're pretty damn busted on Linux, and nobody's going to feel like it's their fault"?
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# [05:17] <Unfocused> totally not my fault
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# [05:18] <JonathanS> Unfocused, it is not your fault.
# [05:18] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12340934&tree=Firefox
# [05:19] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12337181&tree=Fx-Team
# [05:19] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12340963&tree=Fx-Team
# [05:19] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12341024&tree=Mozilla-Inbound with extra bonus followup fun
# [05:19] <philor> and all the Tilt stuff that devtools spent the weekend fighting and wound up giving up and punting on
# [05:20] <Unfocused> ah
# [05:20] <Unfocused> :\
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# [05:20] <Unfocused> and such a useful stack too *sigh*
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# [05:28] <philor> tbsaunde: you better be awake and reviewing patches right now :)
# [05:30] <philor> also, I wonder who all the people trusting that things they throw at inbound will be merged think will merge them
# [05:32] <tbsaunde> philor: I am :) haha
# [05:33] <tbsaunde> well, if bugzilla will get off its but that is
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# [10:17] <@smaug> uh, my review queue looks depressing
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# [10:24] <@smaug> as Requestee
# [10:24] <@smaug> well, time to do some reviews today
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# [10:27] <gps> anyone know what time the m-c -> aurora cutover will happen?
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# [10:50] <@smaug> what is the reason for the uplift today
# [10:50] <@smaug> why not tomorrow?
# [10:50] <glandium> smaug: too much work when there is uplift + release
# [10:51] <@smaug> ahaa
# [10:51] <@smaug> makes sense
# [10:51] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ping
# [10:52] <@smaug> Ms2ger: do I recall correctly that you're trying to get rid of JSVAL_IS_OBJECT or some such
# [10:52] <Ms2ger> That was evilpie
# [10:52] <Ms2ger> And he did
# [10:52] <@smaug> ah, Bug 752226
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# [11:01] <gerv> Hello?
# [11:01] <Ms2ger> Good morning :)
# [11:01] <Ms2ger> Should we still keep the IBM stuff in license headers like in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/Loader.cpp ?
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# [11:06] <Ms2ger> gaston, there you go :)
# [11:07] <gerv> Ms2ger: Yes. It's not _necessary_, but the MPL 2 doesn't let you remove accurate copyright notices, so if IBM want it to be there, it should stay.
# [11:07] <gerv> And we have to assume they do, since they put it there.
# [11:08] <Ms2ger> OK, makes sense
# [11:08] <gerv> (They had a strict interpretation of a clause in MPL 1.1 which led to them scattering those things over the code in the 2000-2001 timeframe.)
# [11:08] <gerv> Clause 3.3, presumably.
# [11:08] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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# [11:10] <Ms2ger> "MPL Section 3.3" doesn't seem to exist anymore in the MPL we link to now
# [11:10] <Ms2ger> s/exist/refer to what it was meant to refer to/
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# [11:16] <jviereck> I have this one test failing on linux/win: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12315630&tree=Try. Is that a known random orange or is something broken there?
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# [11:20] <Ms2ger> Hmm, crashing in XPConnect...
# [11:20] <Ms2ger> !summon bholley
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# [11:25] <jfkthame> it doesn't look random, you're getting it too consistently - i'd say something is genuinely broken, unfortunately
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# [11:27] <glandium> Ms2ger, gerv: that would also depend how much of the original file is still in there...
# [11:27] <gerv> Ms2ger: It means MPL 1.1 section 3.3.
# [11:27] <gerv> In hindsight, they should have been more specific.
# [11:27] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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# [11:30] <firebot> jdm was last seen 11 hours, 38 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'what a shame' in #developers.
# [11:31] <jviereck> jfkthame: thx!
# [11:34] <glandium> Ms2ger, gerv: in fact, the IBM code is not there anymore http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&root=/cvsroot&subdir=mozilla/layout/style&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&file=nsCSSLoader.cpp&rev2=3.45&rev1=3.44
# [11:35] <glandium> (that bonsai link being what the IBM code was)
# [11:35] <gerv> If you are sure, then in this particular case, you can remove it.
# [11:35] * Ms2ger doesn't care *that* much :)
# [11:36] <glandium> gerv: there's no PR_CALLBACK anywhere under layout/
# [11:36] <glandium> and the functions where it was applied are gone, too
# [11:37] <glandium> that's the problem with very old copyright notices... the code it applies to can be long gone
# [11:37] <Ms2ger> http://code.google.com/codesearch \o/
# [11:38] <glandium> oh, they reinstated it?
# [11:38] <glandium> when did that happen?
# [11:39] <@smaug> it has been working all the time, hasn't it
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# [11:41] <Ms2ger> A new URL, apparently
# [11:42] <glandium> smaug: they stopped it a few months ago
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# [11:43] <@smaug> I do remember that they indicated to shut down the service
# [11:43] <glandium> smaug: http://www.google.com/codesearch
# [11:43] <Ms2ger> "familiarity breeds a sense of, well, familiarity"
# [11:43] <glandium> Ms2ger: which, btw, is on "code.google.com". does that mean it only searches stuff on code.google.com ?
# [11:44] <@smaug> looks like I've been using http://code.google.com/codesearch
# [11:44] <Ms2ger> I don't know
# [11:44] <@smaug> ah, perhaps..
# [11:44] <Ms2ger> A twittering bird told me about it
# [11:45] <glandium> looks like the results are all on *.googlecode.com, or chromiumos
# [11:46] <glandium> stuff specific to mozilla, for instance, doesn't match anything
# [11:46] <glandium> so all in all, it's not that useful :(
# [11:48] <Ms2ger> Google--
# [11:50] <jviereck> smaug: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761008 a known issue?
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# [11:57] <AryehGregor> nsCOMPtr<nsIContentIterator> iter = do_CreateInstance("@mozilla.org/content/post-content-iterator;1", &rv);
# [11:57] <AryehGregor> How could that possibly fail?
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# [11:58] <@smaug> jviereck: no
# [11:58] * AryehGregor notices this code doesn't handle lots of other errors anyway
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# [11:59] <@smaug> jviereck: cancel certainly did work when I implemented clone-doc
# [11:59] <Ms2ger> It goes through a lot of code...
# [11:59] <@smaug> at least I think so :)
# [11:59] <jviereck> okay. Guess that means we land the mozPrintCallback stuff without abortion, as abortion/cancle is broken in the printing code
# [12:00] <@smaug> jviereck: could you perhaps try some old builds whether the cancel works
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# [12:00] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I think it can't fail, unless maybe if you're really early in startup and we fail to initialize basically everything
# [12:01] <jviereck> smaug: maybe, but guess not really. Try to get a clean table ASAP and concentrate on my university stuff :/
# [12:01] <jviereck> but let's see
# [12:01] <jviereck> sorry!
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# [12:02] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, so do you think it's safe for me not to handle it?
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I'd make NS_NewContentIterator not return nsresult, and then use it instead of the do_CreateInstance
# [12:03] <AryehGregor> . . . why is NS_NewContentIterator forward-declared in a bunch of .cpp files instead of being included via a header?
# [12:04] <Ms2ger> Because Netscape
# [12:04] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, should I make it return nsIContentIterator* or such?
# [12:05] <Ms2ger> already_AddRefed<nsIContentIterator>, I think
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# [12:05] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, do you have an example that I could copy from? I'm not totally clear on how all this AddRef stuff and whatnot works.
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# [12:06] <Ms2ger> nsCOMPtr<nsIContentIterator> iter = new nsContentSubtreeIterator();
# [12:06] <Ms2ger> return iter.forget();
# [12:06] <Ms2ger> bholley, .de?
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# [12:07] <bholley> Ms2ger: connected via my german mobile
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> I see
# [12:08] <bholley> Ms2ger: cheaper to roam with a german SIM in france
# [12:08] <bholley> no joke
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> Ah, France...
# [12:08] <glazou> hmmmm?
# [12:08] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, should I forward-declare in nsIContentIterator.h or such?
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> Bonjour glazou
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, sounds good
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# [12:09] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, should I declare it as NS_NewContentIterator(void), or is NS_NewContentIterator() okay?
# [12:09] <Ms2ger> (void) is only necessary in C
# [12:09] <glazou> hey Ms2ger
# [12:10] <Ms2ger> So, kill it, please :)
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# [12:12] <Ms2ger> bholley, you may be able to shed light on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12315630&tree=Try ?
# [12:12] * bholley looks
# [12:13] <Ms2ger> (for jviereck)
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# [12:13] <bholley> Ms2ger: bug 760118?
# [12:13] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, layout/build/nsLayoutModule.cpp seems to do weird stuff if NS_NewContentIterator's call signature changes.
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# [12:13] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [12:13] <Ms2ger> Hrm
# [12:13] <AryehGregor> There's a MAKE_CTOR macro.
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# [12:15] <jviereck> Ms2ger: thx, bholley, that try run is for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745025
# [12:15] <bholley> jviereck: is it reproducible with that patch?
# [12:15] * bholley would love easy repro steps
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# [12:15] <jviereck> bholley: I did another try push some time back and the same thing failed
# [12:16] <jviereck> bholley: haven't tested locally myself yet
# [12:16] <jviereck> sorry, got to run for lunch
# [12:16] <bholley> jviereck: are you on linux?
# [12:16] <jviereck> bholley: linux vm, yes
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# [12:16] <bholley> jviereck: if you can reproduce locally on linux, I'll fire up a vm and dig in
# [12:16] <jviereck_lunch> bholley: cool, thanks!
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# [12:18] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, You can probably use http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1655156 instead of the macro
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# [12:19] <@smaug> whimboo: pong
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# [12:20] <whimboo> smaug: had a problem with eventutils but have already found the culprit
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# [12:21] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what exactly does the .forget() do anyway?
# [12:21] <whimboo> smaug: it thought it was related to the focus manager
# [12:22] <whimboo> smaug: but finally it was a regression in mozmill 2
# [12:24] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, it nulls out the nsCOMPtr, so it doesn't call Release() after dieing
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# [12:24] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, it gives you a pointer the caller doesn't need to addref, but does need to release
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# [12:32] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, can I replace SameCOMIdentity with ==, or does it do something more than that?
# [12:33] <Ms2ger> It QIs both arguments to nsISupports
# [12:34] <Ms2ger> == should be fine if both pointers are the same type
# [12:34] <AryehGregor> What if one is nsINode and one is dom::Element?
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> That's fine
# [12:35] <@smaug> Element is an nsINode
# [12:35] <AryehGregor> What would be an example that wasn't fine?]
# [12:35] <AryehGregor> s/]$//
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# [12:37] <kanru> which context does a JS component live? should I get the context in order to use the JS::Value it returned?
# [12:41] <@smaug> hmm, perhaps lunch before reviewing this 100+kB patch :/
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# [12:48] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, multiple inheritance, aiui
# [12:49] <Ms2ger> In particular, if you have an nsIDOMNode and an nsINode, casting both to nsISupports and using == on those wouldn't work
# [12:51] <gps> I'm trying to star my oranges on m-c. what's that R1 failure under Android in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=a0b10aaad563
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# [12:54] <Ms2ger> gps, I guess you could try bug 638815 :)
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# [12:54] <gps> hmmm
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# [12:55] <gps> Ms2ger: maybe I should leave Android starring to the pros :/ thanks for the pointer
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# [12:55] <Ms2ger> NO!
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# [13:12] <bholley> jviereck_lunch: nevermind, got it figured out
# [13:13] <bholley> jviereck_lunch: I used mcmanus' repro steps
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# [13:13] <bholley> jviereck: and it's an issue we already know about, and that I've got patches for :-)
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# [13:13] <bholley> jviereck: patches are almost ready - I'm just hunting down some orange before flagging for review
# [13:14] <jviereck> bholley: do you mean the problem I run into when doing the try-server push for my mozPrintCallback patches?
# [13:14] <bholley> jviereck: the crash
# [13:14] <bholley> jviereck: assuming it's the same crash
# [13:15] <jviereck> cool. Still I get some other failures when running the test locally :/ Got to see what's going wrong there
# [13:15] <Ms2ger> ted, so, has it stopped raining?
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# [13:17] <firebot> I've never seen a 'natokirai', sorry.
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# [13:47] <@ted> Ms2ger: hard to tell
# [13:47] <@ted> keeps raining off and on
# [13:50] * gps ponders if this is literal "rain" or "patches"
# [13:50] <gps> if patches, I could make it rain!
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# [14:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/77f792cd4483 - Mike Hommey - Bug 761105 - Remove build/pylib/blessings/blessings.egg-info and other-licenses/virtualenv/virtualenv.egg-info. r=ted
# [14:02] <glandium> what's up with the osx perma orange ?
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# [14:03] <Ms2ger> Which?
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# [14:04] <glandium> ah forget it, i was watching ?noignore=1
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# [14:05] <Ms2ger> I suspected as much :)
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# [15:10] <gaston> how do you guys deal with an mq patch on m-c that needs to be 'transformed' in a proper commit/push on inbound, in terms of hg commands ?
# [15:10] <gaston> hg export | hg import ?
# [15:11] <@ted> sometimes i do that
# [15:11] <@ted> sometimes i just pull my mq repo into an inbound clone, apply the patches and qfinish them
# [15:11] <vikash> gerv, ping
# [15:11] <glandium> i pull inbound in my tree
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# [15:12] <glandium> so, in fact, i hg qpop -a , hg pull m-i , hg update , hg qpush , hg qfinish -a , hg push -r tip m-i
# [15:12] <vikash> gerv, I just wanted to ask, is there any tag that we have to follow while blogging? or is any planet being handled for the blogs?
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# [15:12] <gaston> hah, hg qfinish transforms a mq in commit, righ
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# [15:12] <gaston> t
# [15:13] <sheppy> glandium: gesundheit!
# [15:13] <gaston> glandium: so you work directly on m-i ?
# [15:13] <glandium> gaston: i work on m-c
# [15:13] <glandium> well, in fact, i work on whatever i pulled last
# [15:13] <glandium> sometimes it's m-c, sometimes it's m-i
# [15:13] <gaston> but you can have only one checkout for m-i and m-c ?
# [15:13] <gaston> (well, clone)
# [15:13] <glandium> i usually push to m-i, so i usually work on m-i
# [15:14] <glandium> gaston: in practice, that's what I have (one clone)
# [15:14] <gaston> good, that'll save space
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# [15:16] <gaston> so you switch between m-i and m-c with pull, and have m-i/m-c aliases/paths in .hgrc ?
# [15:16] <@bsmedberg> vikash: planet.mozilla.org ?
# [15:16] <vikash> bsmedberg, thanks, but I meant for GSoC selected students :-)
# [15:16] <glandium> gaston: i only "switch" when i am about to push to a different tree, so yeah, i do that with pull
# [15:17] <@bsmedberg> vikash: well, make sure you're on planet.mo, I don't know of/if there is another one
# [15:17] <vikash> bsmedberg, How can I do that?
# [15:17] <sheppy> Well, if its Mozilla work, do get onto plant.mo :)
# [15:18] <@bsmedberg> vikash: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Planet_Mozilla
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# [15:18] <vikash> sheppy, most of them will! wont they be scraping trough tags
# [15:18] <sheppy> See that URL for info.
# [15:18] <vikash> sure
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# [15:24] <vikash> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761129
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# [15:39] <gaston> ; ;
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# [15:47] <jlebar> mounir, Are you going to look at all these key-event bugs? (Not bugging you, just want to make sure you have cycles for it.)
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# [15:48] <mounir> jlebar: but I will at least try to have a look at the bugs today
# [15:48] <@smaug> ted: ping
# [15:48] <jlebar> mounir, Okay. I don't have any free cycles until I finish window.open, so if you have time, that would be great.
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# [16:16] <@bsmedberg> ted: ping
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# [16:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/59e7730d780b - Honza Bambas - Bug 753990 - Allow appcache to work with a custom cache (profile) folder within a single application, r=michal.novotny
# [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f2b089df69b3 - Honza Bambas - Bug 744719 - Change offline cache update to load files in parallel, r=michal.novotny
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# [16:23] <@smaug> um
# [16:23] <@smaug> I don't know anymore which integer types should be used
# [16:23] <@smaug> I use PRfoo
# [16:23] <@smaug> but the new types...
# [16:24] <@smaug> intfoo_t ?
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> For JSAPI, hal, and some more
# [16:24] <sheppy> When in doubt, create a new type! :)
# [16:25] * Ms2ger kicks sheppy
# [16:25] <Ms2ger> I'm going to make you document all the integer types we have
# [16:25] <Ms2ger> You won't like it
# [16:26] <@smaug> Ms2ger: but there isn't need to use those new types in DOM code
# [16:27] <Ms2ger> Well, we're moving towards getting rid of PRfoo types
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# [16:27] <Ms2ger> As fast as a glacier
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# [16:27] <sheppy> Ms2ger: if you do it faster, I'll be nicer to you.
# [16:27] <Ms2ger> sheppy, sorry, no can do, browserDI
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# [16:28] <gaston> and as soon as you replace a PRfoo by foo_t, you break my builds \o/
# [16:28] <sheppy> You can't get rid of those types faster because of browserID?
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# [16:29] <Ms2ger> gaston, back in my day, we had no 64-bit integers
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# [16:29] <Ms2ger> Those were the good days :)
# [16:29] <@smaug> Ms2ger: er, what
# [16:29] <sheppy> Back in my day, all integers were 8-bit integers. Get off my lawn!
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# [16:30] <@smaug> ah, nm
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# [16:30] <Ms2ger> Or would you copyedit that to "sets fire to sheppy's lawn"
# [16:30] * sheppy routes all Internet traffic through Ms2ger's brain.
# [16:31] <sheppy> Either would do. :)
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# [16:31] <sheppy> Ms2ger: bastard. :)
# [16:31] <vikash> :-)
# [16:31] <vikash> LoL
# [16:32] <glazou> :)
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# [16:33] <sheppy> Ms2ger: Watch out. I can block you from reading MDN if I want to. :)
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# [16:34] <lahabana> hey does anybody knows anything about GetBaseline?
# [16:34] <vikash> https://twitter.com/ivikashagrawal/status/209652236899454976/photo/1
# [16:35] <lahabana> :)
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# [16:36] <@khuey> Yoric: pong
# [16:36] <glandium> khuey: welcome back
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# [16:38] <@khuey> glandium: thanks
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# [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b4a1b0485188 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 761131 - Add reader button to all browser_toolbar.xml files (r=mfinkle)
# [16:44] <jlebar> My cpp files aren't being compiled. I imagine I've messed up this makefile, but it looks fine to me. Halp? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1655276
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# [16:46] <Ms2ger> sheppy, and that would affect me how? :)
# [16:46] <Yoric> khuey: hi
# [16:46] <sheppy> Ms2ger: Wow, you really know how to hurt a guy.
# [16:46] <Yoric> khuey: Do you have time to look at bug 747876?
# [16:46] <Ms2ger> sheppy, yw
# [16:46] <sheppy> Time for me to start introducing subtle but devastating inaccuracies into the docs for everything Ms2ger works on.
# [16:46] <Yoric> The changes that concern you are pretty trivial, but it would be great if you could review them.
# [16:46] <@khuey> jlebar: FORCE_STATIC_LIB=1
# [16:47] <jlebar> khuey, Why on earth...
# [16:47] <@khuey> Yoric: it's on the list
# [16:47] <Yoric> Thanks.
# [16:47] <glandium> jlebar: LIBRARY = something
# [16:47] <@khuey> Yoric: I just got back from vacation, have a bunch of catching up to do
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# [16:47] <Yoric> khuey: What a coincidence, my todo list contains "nag khuey until he has reviewed my patches" :)
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# [16:48] <@khuey> heh
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# [16:48] <jlebar> glandium, Yay, it was the one which was slightly less of a non-sequitur. Thanks. :)
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# [16:49] <@khuey> heh
# [16:49] <@khuey> the usual approach here is to copy/paste ;-)
# [16:49] <jlebar> khuey, Yeah, but you don't want to copy/paste *everything*.
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> And then to remove all the tabs :)
# [16:49] <jlebar> khuey, Maybe if we just gave these variables completely random names, I'd be more likely to cargo-cult the whole thing.
# [16:50] <@khuey> ha
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, :)
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# [16:52] <felipe> is anyone planning to merge inbound to m-c before the uplift?
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> felipe, ha. Ha. Ha.
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# [16:52] <Ms2ger> Did you see what inbound looks like?
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# [16:53] <felipe> the more colors the better, right?
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# [16:53] <sheppy> If it doesn't look like the Ginza, you're doing it wrong!
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# [16:55] <sheppy> What do I do if I have a friend who's been having perf trouble that appears to be GC related? They installed MemChaser by request, and did some logging when the problems were going on. Do I file a bug, mail the logs to someone...?
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# [16:57] <whimboo> sheppy: usually create a bug and attach the log. further talk to smaug because he is probalby interested in the CC log (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump)
# [16:57] <gaston> Ms2ger: can you give me a direction for bug 761136 ? (ie use PRUint64 vars or use a reinterpret_cast in the caller?)
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> Just land the patch
# [16:59] <sheppy> whimboo: any advice for a component?
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> gaston, you can even do that now :)
# [16:59] <gaston> ah didnt see it got r+ed in the meantime
# [16:59] <whimboo> sheppy: core:xpcom probably. it can be moved later
# [16:59] <sheppy> kk thx
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> sheppy, *bows*
# [16:59] <gaston> okay let's try and hopefully not break a tree..
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# [17:00] <Ms2ger> gaston, it's merge day, tree is burning no matter what you do :)
# [17:00] <glandium> sheppy: Ginza is not a good example nowadays
# [17:00] <sheppy> glandium: perhaps not.
# [17:00] <sheppy> But everyone gets the reference anyway :)
# [17:00] <gaston> Ms2ger: will there be an inbound->m-c merge first or i should land to m-c ?
# [17:00] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [17:01] <Ms2ger> I reckon you want to be able to build aurora next cycle?
# [17:01] <gaston> my buildbot does :)
# [17:01] <Ms2ger> Then you get to watch m-c :)
# [17:01] <gaston> esp for dumb build fixes (i also have 761123)
# [17:01] <gaston> okay, let's cause havoc then
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# [17:02] <jlebar> So if I want to expose a class backed by IDL to web pages, I have to do DOMClassInfo? It's not sufficient to do that other auto-QI thing which is simpler and whose name I forget?
# [17:02] <@smaug> sheppy: GC or CC related?
# [17:03] <janv> Ms2ger: which one ?
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# [17:03] <sheppy> smaug: seems to be GC, but I'm honestly not sure.
# [17:03] <sheppy> Bug 761156
# [17:03] <@smaug> sheppy: if GC related, talking to billm would be good
# [17:03] <Ms2ger> janv, the one I just starred; Ru
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# [17:03] <sheppy> smaug: this is way, way outside the area of things I can even pretend to know enough about to pretend to know anything about.
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> It uses templates
# [17:04] <sheppy> Well, no wonder.
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> And glandium has a leak he gets to star
# [17:04] <gaston> janv: r+ too for the new patch in 761123?
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# [17:04] <janv> gaston: looking
# [17:05] <@smaug> sheppy: oh, it is the first log which is bad
# [17:05] <glandium> Ms2ger: i was waiting for philor to not be away, which he is not anymore
# [17:05] <janv> gaston: done
# [17:05] <gaston> thx
# [17:05] <@smaug> sheppy: and it is cycle collection
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# [17:05] <sheppy> smaug: OK. CC then, you want to retarget that or should I try?
# [17:06] <@smaug> sheppy: so, it happens only with some addons?
# [17:06] <glandium> philor: does the osx debug leak on my push ring a bell
# [17:06] <glandium> ?
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# [17:06] <janv> Ms2ger: I don't see how can that orange relate to my push
# [17:06] <sheppy> smaug: as far as I'm aware it happens even in safe mode.
# [17:06] <sheppy> He says it does, anyway.
# [17:06] <glandium> philor: it's intermittent (retrigger was green)
# [17:06] <sheppy> At least the perf; obviously he can't get a log from MemChaser in safe mode.
# [17:06] <Ms2ger> janv, doesn't excuse you from starring if you land on m-c, dear
# [17:07] <gaston> pushing to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/
# [17:07] <whimboo> sheppy: he can disable all other extensions except memchaser
# [17:07] <gaston> that wont fly marty
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# [17:07] <@smaug> sheppy: is it about some particular website?
# [17:07] <jesup> jlebar: I think you have to do DOMClassInfo, at least for now, but it's not my area
# [17:07] <janv> Ms2ger: I'll do it next time, dear
# [17:08] <sheppy> smaug: no, doesn't seem to be. just seems to happen. been going on for months.
# [17:08] <gaston> argh
# [17:08] <gaston> abort: empty revision set
# [17:08] <gaston> warning: post-push hook exited with status 255
# [17:08] <glandium> gaston: happens all the time here
# [17:08] <gaston> but it found my 2 changesets
# [17:08] <gaston> aha, interesting
# [17:08] <glandium> gaston: doesn't prevent pushes to happen fine
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# [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1dc3d837c727 - Landry Breuil - Bug 761019 - Remove extra comma at end of enum after bug 758236. r=jdaggett
# [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/382d639afa85 - Landry Breuil - Bug 761123 - Remove extra semicolon at end of NS_IMPL_EVENT_HANDLER() decl. r=janv
# [17:08] <@smaug> sheppy: "going for months" is vague. FF12 was the first one to have good optimizations for cycle collector
# [17:09] <@smaug> sheppy: so, please as which version
# [17:09] <@smaug> s/as/ask/
# [17:09] <gaston> doh, i pushed a cset that was already pushed to m-i
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# [17:09] <sheppy> smaug: I know. He's been having problems since well before that, but I kept telling him Firefox 12 would make things better. Once he got it, it didn't seem to improve.
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# [17:09] <philor> glandium: nope, I'm a little suspicious of the xslt things that are at the end of the leaked ULRs list, but I'm not positive they aren't just what's normally at the end of an M1 leak
# [17:09] <@smaug> sheppy: then I need some more information..
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# [17:10] <sheppy> smaug: I will try…
# [17:10] <@smaug> sheppy: do you think he could create CC logs
# [17:10] <@smaug> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump
# [17:10] <@smaug> the script in the first gray box
# [17:10] <sheppy> I'll ask next time I see him.
# [17:10] <@smaug> and send it to me
# [17:10] <sheppy> I hang out on another IRC server with him.
# [17:10] <felipe> it seems that inbound 778ba119ded6 has had a pgo build and everything is green or starred. any reason not to merge that?
# [17:11] <@smaug> sheppy: note, the log may contain urls of open/visited pages
# [17:11] <sheppy> smaug: OK
# [17:11] <gaston> Ms2ger: the first cset had already been pushed to m-i but since then it hadnt been merged to m-c, will it collide ?
# [17:11] <Yoric> mak: ping
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> gaston, if it's the exact same patch, no
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# [17:11] <mak> Yoric: pong
# [17:12] <glandium> philor: should i file a new bug?
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> gaston, if not... merge to m-i, please?
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# [17:12] <gaston> Ms2ger: it is the same patch
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# [17:12] <gaston> well, will triple check
# [17:12] <Yoric> mak: Just a reminder that I am waiting for a review from you.
# [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/16ba1a04c74d - Landry Breuil - Bug 761136 - fix uses of uint64_t vs PRUint64 after bug 666693. r=bent
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# [17:13] <gaston> well, the same patch besides the changesets checksums of course
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# [17:13] <gaston> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/699ded02ce5a vs http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1dc3d837c727
# [17:14] <gaston> oh well, now i'll just watch tbpl and cross fingers...
# [17:14] <philor> glandium: no, my memory was weak, RyanVM already filed it, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734680
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# [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ed00ab13fee9 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 761132 - Don't try to fetch display column on history items (r=margaret)
# [17:14] <Ms2ger> I have to say, edmorley's queen picked a good time to celebrate her jubilee...
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# [17:15] <glandium> Ms2ger: that's why he's not here?
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# [17:15] <philor> glandium: done
# [17:15] <glandium> philor: thanks
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> glandium, correct
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# [17:31] <alexdmt> someone_who_knows_anything_about_baseline() : ping
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# [17:44] <vlad> anyone know how to get CSV data for crash reports from the crash stats server?
# [17:44] <vlad> specifically all the reports for a particular query/signature
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# [18:03] <jtcranmer> I want a hex view of the data at $esp
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# [18:06] <jtcranmer> Debug > Windows > Memory
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# [18:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7fcb3f7d2b61 - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, chunk up whole page screenshots r=kats
# [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/12809c23e838 - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, screenshot only on idle r=kats
# [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6cf625ab6acd - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, only take one screenshot at a time r=kats
# [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5ee7f5d52664 - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, chunk up large updates as well r=kats
# [18:07] <glandium> jtcranmer: erf, now that you mention it, i used it a couble weeks ago
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# [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de42c0dc4413 - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, only update dirty rects, reuse a single bytebuffer and stop using
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# [18:07] <firebot> java bitmaps r=kats
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# [18:29] <bz> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/fullscreen/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
# [18:29] <bz> application/binary
# [18:29] <bz> lovely
# [18:29] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, ^
# [18:29] <gaston> Ms2ger: what does 'a;r' mean in your comment on the j1 android opt failure on my push ? :)
# [18:30] <Ms2ger> Android; retriggered
# [18:30] <jesup> bz: it's all binary. Live the 1's and 0's.. :-)
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# [18:30] <gaston> ah, okay :)
# [18:30] <gaston> also known as 'damn you f**k**g android tests' ?
# [18:31] <Ms2ger> gaston, relevant: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wp1yU15o1rspplwo1_500.jpg
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# [18:31] <gaston> haha :)
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# [18:33] <gaston> sometimes i'm wondering if tpbl wasnt designed as the ultimate firefox stress test
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# [18:33] <Ms2ger> Why do you think we all use Chrome?
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# [18:34] <@smaug> gaston: what is wrong with tbpl ?
# [18:34] <@smaug> the logs are a bit slow to load
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# [18:35] <gaston> on my 10 years old desktop it's... depressing :)
# [18:35] <@smaug> 10 years...
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# [18:35] * zzzzz would hae thought anything on a 10yr old desktop would be depressing
# [18:36] <@smaug> I hope we have bugs open to fix the performance problems
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> Back then, smaug's phd advisor still thought he was going to finish
# [18:36] <gaston> zzzzz: you have to carefully choose the software you use, and be patient, that's all
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# [18:36] <@smaug> bidi text used to cause some slowness but I don't know what the problem is nowadays
# [18:36] * zzzzz nods
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# [18:39] <jesup> ehsan: is bug 738528 actually uplifted to m-c, or was it backed out by mounir?
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# [18:39] <@ehsan> jesup: it was backed out, I have not got to that changeset yet
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# [18:41] <dougt> ehsan: ping?
# [18:41] <dougt> oh.. jesup is on it...
# [18:41] <@ehsan> dougt: hey
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# [18:41] <@ehsan> ?
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# [18:42] <dougt> i was wondering about why that getusermedia bug was pushed to m-c
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# [18:42] <@ted> smaug: pong
# [18:43] <@ted> vlad: i don't actually know that, i'd ask kairo or someone in #breakpad
# [18:43] <@ted> smaug: thanks for the spec bugs, btw
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# [18:43] <@ehsan> dougt: it is backed out
# [18:44] <@smaug> ted: so, I had missed that you have followup for the navigator part
# [18:44] <@smaug> (that was the latter ping. Don't remember the reason for the first ping)
# [18:44] <@ted> okay
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# [18:44] <@ted> that was more than i wanted to bite off at the moment
# [18:44] <@ted> bsmedberg: pong
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# [18:47] <daleharvey> anyone up for an indexeddb question?
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# [18:48] <daleharvey> cant figure out a way via the api to fetch the last item (by ordered key) in an objectstore
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# [18:50] <gerv> vikash: email me :-) (Day off today)
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# [18:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/42f8002ca13b - Simon Montagu - Bug 760954 - Fix the performance regression in the View Source windows; r=ehsan
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# [18:55] <lsblakk> peterv: have you landed the patch in bug 743666 anywhere yet? would like to be able to approve for aurora before the merge
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# [18:55] <WeirdAl> another week, another train departure
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# [18:58] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, (cc peterv) not landed anywhere yet
# [18:58] <mayhemer> is anybody interested in cpu-load hang during execution of websocket_basic test?
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# [18:59] <mayhemer> I can reproduce this quit regularly
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# [19:03] <gaston> Ms2ger: if i have a mochitest orange, the summary proposes me a 'candidate bug' for it, and i only need to click on the star to say that's the probably similar failure ?
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# [19:03] <gaston> (trying to understand the starring part)
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# [19:04] <Ms2ger> gaston, just the star next to the bug, and then the "add a comment" link at the left bottom of the screen
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# [19:05] <gaston> is there a particular syntax ?
# [19:05] <lsblakk> bz, khuey - can either of you land peterv's patch from bug 743666 so we can get it nom'd for aurora?
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# [19:08] <@khuey> lsblakk: I'm busy preparing the other things I need to do on aurora ;-)
# [19:08] <blassey> josh: bug 421128
# [19:08] <Ms2ger> gaston, the click on the star will fill in the bug #
# [19:08] <gaston> right
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# [19:08] <lsblakk> khuey: geez, excuses :)
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# [19:09] <@khuey> indeed
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# [19:11] <gregglind> is there a ref for transparent xul elements?
# [19:11] <gregglind> I want a transparent window
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# [19:12] <lsblakk> sicking: re bug 757284, are you working on an update to the patch for that failed build?
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# [19:13] <@khuey> lsblakk: I'm doing that
# [19:13] <@khuey> among other things :-P
# [19:14] <lsblakk> oh good, thanks khuey
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# [19:15] <blassey> so... I expect all android tests to fail for my last push to m-c
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# [19:15] <blassey> and I'm working on a follow up to fix it
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# [19:16] <blassey> philor: ^
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# [19:23] <jlebar> khuey, Kris is saying that we did not fix this issue. I dunno if that's right.
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# [19:24] <@ted> smaug: ugh, i forgot about your constructor comment
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# [19:24] <vlad> ted: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/common/linux/file_id.cc#144 looks kind of fragile to me -- won't that inner loop fail if we happen to have a text size that's a) smaller than 4096; and b) not a multiple of GUIDSize? We'll read beyond the end.
# [19:24] <@ted> also, i haven't actually looked much at what's in the spec, despite being a co-author...
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# [19:24] <@smaug> ted: the changes I asked should be reasonable small
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# [19:24] <vlad> which is probably fine, since the mapping will be page-aligned etc etc, but..
# [19:25] <@ted> smaug: yeah, not a big deal
# [19:25] <@ted> vlad: seems pretty unlikely to fail in practice, yeah
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# [19:26] <@ted> but yes, if you had a less-than-4k .text that wasn't 16 byte aligned you could read off the end
# [19:26] <vlad> yeah
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# [19:26] <@ted> so we could just use those
# [19:26] <glandium> ted: not hard to fix
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# [19:26] <@ted> yeah, that's all upstream in binutils, isn't it?
# [19:26] <glandium> ted: note that less-than-4k .text is what we have for libmozalloc
# [19:27] <@ted> oh
# [19:27] <@ted> huh
# [19:27] <glandium> ted: it's also possible without binutils support, i think i did a poc for that
# [19:27] <gavin> philor: do you know anything about these multiple talos windows regression emails from one of your merges to inbound?
# [19:27] <@ted> glandium: yeah, probably
# [19:27] <@ted> it's just a tiny little section that gets injected
# [19:27] <@ted> did you use a linker script or something?
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# [19:28] <@ted> vlad: i'd take a patch for that :)
# [19:28] <glandium> ted: iirc just a static variable with an __attribute__(section)
# [19:28] <@ted> gotcha
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# [19:29] <philor> gavin: if it's a merge from central to inbound, then I would expect that there was also email about central, or will be once there are enough pushes after it
# [19:29] <@ted> glandium: don't you need to regenerate that per-build though?
# [19:30] <glandium> ted: obviously, yes
# [19:30] <philor> gavin: don't tell anyone, but we don't actually pay the slightest bit of attention to talos regressions
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# [19:31] <gavin> philor: I do
# [19:31] <lahabana> dbaron ping
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# [19:31] <@dbaron> lahabana, pong
# [19:32] <philor> gavin: oh, good, it's *your* job, I wondered whose it was!
# [19:32] <lahabana> I've got a question about getBaseline
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# [19:32] <lahabana> If I got it write
# [19:33] <lahabana> it's the distance between the top border and the bottom of the text
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# [19:33] <lahabana> dbaron (btw I'm working on refactoring nsTextControlFrame)
# [19:33] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/43e3d0333d30 - Brad Lassey - bug 755070 - Scrolling causes after paint notifications which causes screenshotting which causes checkerboarding, follow up to use LinkedList instead of ArrayDequeu which is not
# [19:33] <@dbaron> lahabana, nsIFrame::GetBaseline() should be the distance between the top border edge and the baseline of the text
# [19:34] <lahabana> from nsStackFrame to nsContainerFrame
# [19:34] <firebot> supported on Froyo r=kats
# [19:34] <lahabana> yes that's what I meant
# [19:34] <lahabana> so I tried a few things
# [19:35] <lahabana> my first idea was to do firstChild.GetBaseline() + getBorderAndPAdding().top
# [19:35] <lahabana> but this seems too big
# [19:35] <lahabana> and I don't really understand why
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# [19:36] <lahabana> dbaron and also are we ok that the margin-top shouldn't enter the calculation?
# [19:36] <@ehsan> blassey: so are those oranges on your push to m-c just regular android intermittent failures?
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# [19:36] <blassey> ehsan: no, follow up pushed to fix them
# [19:36] <@dbaron> lahabana, the first child's baseline is relative to the first child's border-top, so you'd at the very least need to adjust for the offset between the two
# [19:37] <@dbaron> lahabana, but if you're inside reflow there are other rules (see nsHTMLReflowMetrics)
# [19:37] <blassey> ehsan: I'll star them
# [19:37] <@ehsan> cool
# [19:37] <blassey> ehsan: the test boards run an older version of android than most of my test devices
# [19:37] <blassey> so I didn't see that error
# [19:37] <philor> gavin: so I regressed it when I merged central to inbound mostly merging an fx-team merge, but fx-team regressed when it merged central on Saturday, and central regressed on Friday?
# [19:37] <@ehsan> ah, that's not helpful!
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# [19:38] <lahabana> dbaron: well I don't really understand cause in nsIFrame.h on the description of GetBaseline it's said "Only valid when Reflow is not needed"
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# [19:39] <@dbaron> lahabana, Reflow() is the function that does layout (position) computations
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# [19:39] <@dbaron> lahabana, if a frame's position hasn't been computed yet, or needs to be updated, then GetBaseline() isn't going to return the right thing
# [19:39] <gavin> philor: are you just going off of the regression finder emails?
# [19:39] <lahabana> dbaron ho yes
# [19:39] <gavin> I'm trying to look at graphs and can't get them to work
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# [19:39] <lahabana> I see that
# [19:40] <lahabana> thx
# [19:40] <@dbaron> lahabana, but nsHTMLReflowMetrics has comments about how it should be propagated from one frame to its ancestors *during* reflow
# [19:40] <gavin> I don't even know who to talk to about graphs.mozilla.org - ctalbert?
# [19:40] <@dbaron> I think
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# [19:40] <philor> gavin: rhelmer
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# [19:40] <gavin> rhelmer: ping?
# [19:40] <lahabana> yes I did that on my reflow
# [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9cd3ffd77a57 - Richard Newman - Bug 748475 - Bump Android Sync User-Agent version. r=trivial DONTBUILD
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# [19:41] <lahabana> though it seems I still need GetBaseline() (well that's what bz told me)
# [19:41] <rhelmer> gavin: pong
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# [19:41] <gavin> rhelmer: I can't seem to get http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[144,1,19],[144,1,1],[144,1,12],[150,1,19],[150,1,1],[150,1,12]]&sel=none&displayrange=7&datatype=running (or similar variants) to show me anything
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# [19:41] <gavin> am I doing something wrong?
# [19:41] <rhelmer> gavin: let me take a look
# [19:41] <Ms2ger> bz_away, the dvcs.w3.org issue is passed on
# [19:41] <lahabana> dbaron don't really get the exact way to compute it
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# [19:42] <rhelmer> gavin: doesn't seem to be any recent data? if i pull down "last 7 days" to "last 90 days" i see something
# [19:42] <gavin> ah, indeed...
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# [19:43] <rhelmer> gavin: the test names change a lot on the talos side, could be the culprit
# [19:43] <gavin> what would cause that? the talos regression finder emails are still reporting variations, do they use a different data set?
# [19:43] <gavin> rhelmer: oh, my mistake, I guess I selected the wrong test
# [19:44] <rhelmer> gavin: yeah i see there's a "tp5 row major" which i think replaces "tp5r" :P
# [19:44] <rhelmer> gavin: did the regression finder provide a link
# [19:44] <rhelmer> ?
# [19:44] <lahabana> dbaron just to be sure the width of the border of a frame is included in the baseline but not its margin?
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# [19:44] <gavin> rhelmer: ah yeah I suppose it does. didn't notice that
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# [19:46] <@smaug> ted: I don't care too much about the NS_IF_ADDREF
# [19:46] <Ms2ger> ted, and I want you to keep the forget ;)
# [19:46] <@smaug> just wondering why you wanted to write more code
# [19:46] <rhelmer> gavin: yeah sorry about the explosion of test names, not something I can really paper over on the graphs.m.o side :/ datazilla project should unify a lot of the talos/tbpl/graphs differences though so that'll be good
# [19:46] <@smaug> oh, I can blame Ms2ger
# [19:46] <Ms2ger> :)
# [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/844ed9db0464 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 760740 - Use compatible-screens to control filtering of split Android builds [r=blassey]
# [19:47] <jtcranmer> dbaron: ping
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# [19:47] <ted> heh, okay
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# [19:47] <gavin> rhelmer: cool
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# [19:48] <gavin> philor: looking at http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[178,1,1]]&sel=none&displayrange=7&datatype=running
# [19:48] <@smaug> ted: be lazy and keep what you have now
# [19:48] <gavin> philor: seems to point to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=9274e6b53af4&tochange=d0ebcaa7efb5
# [19:49] <Ms2ger> ted, did your toddler get hold of your iphone again? ;)
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# [20:25] <Callek> cjones, sicking: ping?
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# [20:26] <Callek> cjones, sicking: if I can verify locally the bustage fix that bent suggests in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666693#c24 can I get an rs+ to go ahead and land, or do you want a real patch/review?
# [20:26] <Callek> akeybl: and since today is a merge day, if it lands and makes things green can I get an over-irc a+ for aurora?
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# [20:27] <Ms2ger> Callek, you can have rs=me if you'll take it
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# [20:28] <Callek> Ms2ger: If you're a reviewer for that code in question, great. Otherwise I'd rather have an explicit from someone who can review that code.
# [20:28] <Callek> (in this case)
# [20:28] <@khuey> is that worth more or less than rs=lumpy
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# [20:28] <Ms2ger> khuey, of course, you're an actual peer there
# [20:28] <@khuey> uh oh
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# [20:28] <Ms2ger> khuey, so yours would be slightly more :)
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# [20:30] <@khuey> Ms2ger: only slightly?
# [20:30] <Ms2ger> Correcy
# [20:30] <Ms2ger> t
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# [20:31] <@khuey> is correcy like heresy?
# [20:31] <akeybl> Callek: why rush bug 666693?
# [20:31] <Callek> akeybl: primarily because it is (as of yesterday) *burning* seamonkey trunk
# [20:32] <Callek> akeybl: I'm asking for conditional aurora approval on that bustage fix alone
# [20:32] <Callek> (MSVC8 bustage fix)
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# [20:33] <akeybl> Callek: bustage fix is fine by me
# [20:33] <bz> Whom do I cc on devtools bugs?
# [20:33] <Callek> (since today is uplift day)
# [20:33] <Callek> akeybl: thanks
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# [20:33] <Callek> akeybl: yea, I'm not looking to uplift the main patch at all, that is far more risky than I'd care to drive, even if I knew much about the problem
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# [20:34] <bz> element inspector in particular
# [20:34] <akeybl> Callek: yeah that's what I was trying to figure out
# [20:34] <akeybl> but making the low risk change in comment 24 alone sounds fine by me
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# [20:34] <Ms2ger> bz, let's say.. msucan
# [20:34] <sid0> hm
# [20:35] <sid0> ehsan: I haven't been able to install a nightly update for a week
# [20:35] <sid0> it fails every time with rename_file: failed to rename file - src: C:\Program Files (x86)\Nightly, dst:C:\Program Files (x86)\Nightly.bak, err: 13
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# [20:35] <msucan> bz: element inspector? paul, dcamp, etc
# [20:35] <sid0> ehsan: is this known?
# [20:35] <sid0> it's even happening with the june 3 -> june 4 update
# [20:35] <dcamp> bz: paul mostly. Rob and I will see it if it's in the devtools component.
# [20:36] <msucan> i work more on the source editor, web console and when priorities align well, i also work on the js debugger
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# [20:36] <@ehsan> sid0: what error are you getting?
# [20:36] <@ehsan> sid0: and what platform?
# [20:36] <sid0> ehsan: win7
# [20:36] <@ehsan> sid0: (it's best if you would file a bug for it)
# [20:36] <sid0> ehsan: the error is: rename_file: failed to rename file - src: C:\Program Files (x86)\Nightly, dst:C:\Program Files (x86)\Nightly.bak, err: 13
# [20:36] <sid0> that's in the update.log
# [20:36] <@ehsan> hmm
# [20:37] <@ehsan> sid0: yeah that's known
# [20:37] <sid0> bug#?
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# [20:37] <sid0> I tried looking for it
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# [20:37] <@ehsan> sid0: although, I landed a fix on friday which would hopefully make it better
# [20:37] <@ehsan> sid0: bug 760577
# [20:37] <sid0> well in my case it hasn't worked
# [20:37] <@ehsan> sid0: but please file a new bug
# [20:37] <@ehsan> sid0: especially if you can consistently reproduce this
# [20:38] <sid0> ok
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# [20:41] <jlebar> I'm trying to pass a class I created (inherits from nsISupports, has full domclassinfo stuff) through nsCustomEvent.detail, but I'm getting NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_NATIVE. What gives?
# [20:41] <jlebar> smaug, ^?
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# [20:43] <dougt> hi
# [20:43] <Yoric> Hi
# [20:43] <@smaug> jlebar: it really has all the classinfo stuff?
# [20:44] <Yoric> dougt: As per team regulations, let me remind you that you have reviews pending :)
# [20:44] <@smaug> jlebar: missing QI to classinfo perhaps?
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# [20:44] <dougt> Yoric: i see that.
# [20:44] <dougt> this afternoon!
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# [20:44] <Yoric> dougt: great :)
# [20:44] <jlebar> smaug, I *think* it's got everything...biolerplate is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1655410
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# [20:45] <dougt> Yoric: btw... i saw a 6s fsync pause on my mpb last night.
# [20:45] <dougt> from javascript - > SafeFileOutputStream -> fsync
# [20:45] <dougt> maybe flush() -> fsync
# [20:45] <@smaug> jlebar: btw, if you have just one nsCOMPtr to traverse/unlink, there is a helper macro for that
# [20:45] <dougt> i have the spin control profile if you want to look at it.
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# [20:46] <jlebar> smaug, That's exactly what I need, another helper macro. :-p
# [20:46] <@khuey> biolerplate?
# [20:46] <sid0> ehsan: ah, oh god, never mind. i just read 757907 and I realized I had a command prompt open
# [20:46] <sid0> :(
# [20:46] <philor> dougt: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12359536&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [20:46] <sheppy> We need helper macros to help with our helper macros.
# [20:47] <philor> I'm as surprised as you that the copious use of setTimeout didn't work, maybe you need big magic numbers?
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# [20:47] <jlebar> khuey, ?
# [20:47] <@smaug> jlebar: doesn't your QI miss nsISupports
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# [20:47] <@ehsan> sid0: oh :)
# [20:47] <@ehsan> sid0: well bug 760577 will provide a fallback in these cases
# [20:48] <jlebar> smaug, Yay.
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# [20:48] <Yoric> dougt: That may be interesting, thanks.
# [20:48] <jlebar> smaug, Ah, I copied from something which did an NS_ISUPPORTS_*INHERITED*.
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# [20:48] <jlebar> smaug, Thanks.
# [20:49] <@smaug> np
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# [20:49] <@smaug> s/np/yw/
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# [20:52] <Yoric> dougt: Was your system busy at the time?
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# [20:53] <dougt> Yoric: not notability, but clearly the operation took forever.
# [20:54] <Yoric> That's scary.
# [20:54] <Yoric> Well, any data you have on that is interesting.
# [20:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/26dcd1b1a208 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 761252 - Set devtools.debugger.remote-enabled from Marionette, a=test-only, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [20:55] * Ms2ger wonders why people dump a diffstat in their commit message
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# [20:58] <luke> has the aurora branch already occurred?
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# [20:59] <Fallen> Ms2ger: I think some tools do this automatically
# [20:59] <Ms2ger> luke, no
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# [21:00] <zzzzz_> still waiting for those that only check-in on merge days to get done j/k :P
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# [21:02] <Ms2ger> zzzzz_, well, yes
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# [21:04] <thakis> sicking: thoughts on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757664 ?
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# [21:05] <@dbaron> lahabana, yes, the frame's rect is its border box; see the comments above GetRect() in nsIFrame.h
# [21:05] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, pong
# [21:06] <xabolcs> gerv: hi! can i have a question about inspiration and licensing?
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# [21:06] <gerv> xabolcs: Can you email me? :-)
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# [21:06] <gerv> Or is it really urgent?
# [21:06] <sicking> thakis: i agree we should do something like that, but I won't have time to review before vacation :(
# [21:07] <thakis> sicking: are you fine with smaug reviewing then?
# [21:07] <xabolcs> gerv: of course i can, it isn't urgent. thanks :)
# [21:07] <sicking> thakis: yeah, i'll put some comments in the bug
# [21:07] <thakis> thanks
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# [21:17] <jimm> armenzg: ping
# [21:18] <armenzg> jimm: pong
# [21:18] <amsingh> hey i want to contribute to mozilla..where do i get started??
# [21:18] <amsingh> do i need to fix a bug for this?
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# [21:18] <jimm> armenzg: hey, just an fyi, we've decided to switch to the visual studio RC release.
# [21:18] <armenzg> jimm: move to VS2012 RC?
# [21:18] <armenzg> 2012 rather than VS2011
# [21:18] <armenzg> right?
# [21:18] <armenzg> jimm: which of all the versions that can be downloaded?
# [21:18] <jimm> armenzg: yep, the two are not compatible. sorry. :/
# [21:18] <sawrubh> amsingh: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction
# [21:18] <jimm> armenzg: I grabbed the professional
# [21:18] <sawrubh> and #introduction
# [21:19] <tbsaunde> we haven't branched yet right?
# [21:19] <thakis> sicking: replied
# [21:19] <jimm> armenzg: hopefully some of the install problems you ran into got fixed
# [21:20] <zzzzz_> tbsaunde: no
# [21:20] <armenzg> jimm: this one? correct? http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#professional
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# [21:20] <jimm> armenzg: yes. the next release probably won't be out till the fall, so we'll stick with that for a while.
# [21:20] <jtcranmer> dbaron: what needs to be done for bug 80713>
# [21:20] <jtcranmer> ?
# [21:21] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, address review comments in comment 114
# [21:21] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, and possibly some other comments elsewhere
# [21:21] <jtcranmer> dbaron: so, the person who was working on it has stopped development work
# [21:22] <jimm> armenzg: I
# [21:22] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, no idea
# [21:22] <jtcranmer> (I talked to him via email, so I know he stopped)
# [21:22] <jimm> armenzg: I'll be landing some patches on elm later today that get things building properly using the RC.
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# [21:23] <armenzg> jimm: by when would you need me to install VS2012 RC unto w64-ix-slave22?
# [21:23] <jtcranmer> dbaron: so do you know who would be capable of picking it up?
# [21:23] <armenzg> and the other 2 slaves (I think)
# [21:23] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, I don't know who would have time
# [21:23] <@dbaron> jtcranmer, but I suspect a lot of people could do it
# [21:23] <armenzg> jimm: I am thinking of installing to C:\Tools\msvs12_rc
# [21:24] <jtcranmer> dbaron: :-/
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# [21:24] <xabolcs> gerv: e-mail sent, thanks again!
# [21:24] -lsblakk:#developers- Aurora and Beta trees closing for migration in 10 minutes
# [21:25] <jimm> armenzg: up to you based on what you have in your current schedule. Obviously we would like to get nightly builds going again as soon as we can.
# [21:25] <jtcranmer> dbaron: would it be possible to get it on someone's schedule to finish in the next development cycle or the one thereafter?
# [21:26] <philor> fortunately, aurora only has 5 pushes with Windows builds still *pending*
# [21:26] <@khuey> what's the worst that could happen?
# [21:26] <@khuey> it's not like I've broken the tree before
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# [21:27] <philor> :)
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# [21:27] <philor> it's not like we don't know how to tell you to back out the backout of the backout, itym
# [21:27] <armenzg> jimm: WRT to "nightly" builds I have to say that what we do are "builds-on-checkin" and we are not doing "nightly builds" per say
# [21:27] <jimm> armenzg: right, sorry, those are the builds I was referring to
# [21:28] <davidb|mtg> armenzg: can you take a look at bug 761256
# [21:28] <davidb|mtg> (i want you to be aware of it and possibly help us turn off tests if necessary)
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# [21:28] <davidb|mtg> hub: ^
# [21:29] <armenzg> davidb|mtg: I am on it
# [21:29] <hub> how long to I have before uplift?
# [21:29] <philor> and speaking of backing out
# [21:29] <Ms2ger> hub, 6 minutes
# [21:29] <philor> dougt: how's that backout of https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f4307a63c18 coming along?
# [21:29] * dougt looks
# [21:30] * Ms2ger gets http://backedoutbykylehuey.com/ ready
# [21:30] <dougt> oh, werid
# [21:31] <philor> probably dougt has other tests that add listeners and don't remove them, you should yell at him about that
# [21:31] <jtcranmer> dbaron: I'd work on it myself but a) I'm overcomitted already and b) I don't know my way around layout
# [21:31] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: Hulk backout!
# [21:31] <dougt> philor: thanks. backed out.
# [21:31] <WeirdAl> you wouldn't like him when he's angry
# [21:31] <Ms2ger> jtcranmer, I think khuey likes working on layout
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# [21:31] <dougt> philor: yeah, i am angry with that guy.
# [21:32] * @khuey glares at Ms2ger
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# [21:33] <hub> so I guess I'll have to get aurora approval instead
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# [21:35] <lsblakk> khuey/philor - we'll merge and wait for green on the other side.
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# [21:35] <lsblakk> i trust khuey is around this aft if cleanup on aisle 9 is needed
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# [21:38] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, not in the next hour, he won't be ;)
# [21:39] <lsblakk> we won't have results on the other side for another ~5 hrs
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# [21:39] <@khuey> I might be asleep by then
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# [21:40] <lsblakk> khuey: where are you?
# [21:40] <@khuey> SF
# [21:41] <lsblakk> alright.
# [21:41] <philor> lsblakk: reconfig first? otherwise you're not going to have a good time
# [21:41] <lsblakk> philor: aki|buildduty is reconfiging
# [21:41] <lsblakk> while i start the merge
# [21:41] <@khuey> lsblakk: but that's around my nap time
# [21:41] <lsblakk> khuey: we'll figure it out
# [21:41] <zzzzz_> if your not over the age of 60 , no naps allowed
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# [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/946579ceaeb8 - Lukas Blakk - Added tag FIREFOX_AURORA_15_BASE for changeset 26dcd1b1a208
# [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fe758ebc1707 - Lukas Blakk - Merging in version bump NO BUG
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# [22:03] <philor> mbrubeck: might you have a robocheck not-close-enough failure?
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# [22:04] <mbrubeck> hmm
# [22:04] <mbrubeck> *probably* not me
# [22:04] <mbrubeck> maybe blassey's last patch?
# [22:04] <philor> have to be next-to-last
# [22:04] <mbrubeck> yeah, that one
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# [22:05] <mbrubeck> The only change I made in native Fennec is one to a package attribute which the docs say is not used at runtime
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# [22:07] <mbrubeck> philor: Hmm, the last green rc run https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=42f8002ca13b does not actually seem to have run the testOverscroll tests
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# [22:07] <philor> that's one of my least favorite robocop features
# [22:07] <@khuey> actually running the tests?
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# [22:08] <philor> no, not caring whether or not it runs them
# [22:08] <@khuey> ah
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# [22:09] <philor> hmm, tbpl must still load the full pushlog, and then elide it
# [22:10] <philor> I just heard my drive humming and rattling to tell me that the merge to beta had happened
# [22:10] <mbrubeck> Oh, the last two rc failures are not actually identical either
# [22:10] <jtcranmer> dbaron: so ... ?
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# [22:14] <Shondoit> When is nsPresContext->IsRoot() true? I mean, is it true for the main window, tab, main web page, iframe?
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# [22:19] <@smaug> Shondoit: it is true for the top most chrome window
# [22:19] <@smaug> IIRC
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# [22:20] <Shondoit> smaug: is there any way to know for sure?
# [22:20] <@smaug> look at the source code
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# [22:21] <glandium> yay for number of constructors inflation
# [22:21] <glandium> 381
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# [22:23] <@smaug> Shondoit: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp#816
# [22:23] <scientes_> glandium, you might be interested in bug 761274
# [22:23] <tbsaunde> armenzg_mtg: if its easier for you I think I have a pile of gross hacks that makes mochitest-a11y always pass without accessibility on, if its easier for you to not worry about redoing configs
# [22:24] <armenzg_mtg> tbsaunde: no, don't worry. my patch was wrong nevertheless
# [22:24] <Shondoit> smaug: So only the top-most chrome window becomes root and all others have a containerView?
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# [22:25] <@bsmedberg> ted: I need a decision in bug 755724
# [22:26] <@smaug> Shondoit: I believe so
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# [22:26] <@smaug> I could check some more code to be sure..
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# [22:26] <@smaug> Shondoit: may I ask why you need to know this stuff?
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# [22:27] <Shondoit> Right. I'm trying to reduce fingerprinting by making CSS Media Queries only available to the windows chrome and not the web page.
# [22:28] <Shondoit> It works great, but I want to make sure that the queries can not be accessed in some obscure context.
# [22:28] <@smaug> IsRoot doesn't really mean chrome
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# [22:28] <@smaug> there can be non-root chrome
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# [22:29] <Shondoit> Well, the way we did it before was to rip out media queries in it's entirety.
# [22:30] <Shondoit> The problem was that the theming got screwed up.
# [22:30] <Shondoit> Using IsRoot() is a better solution.
# [22:31] <Shondoit> Do you have any other suggestions? Does aPresContext have a chrome flag or something of the kind?
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# [22:32] <ted> bsmedberg: bleh
# [22:32] <ted> that turned out to be more complicated than i expected
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# [22:32] <hobophobe> Shondoit: there is an IsChrome()
# [22:32] <@smaug> Shondoit: nsPresContext::IsChrome()
# [22:33] <hub> so inbound is post uplift and OPEN?
# [22:33] <davidb> ehsan: my a11y check add-on is currently broken :(
# [22:33] <Shondoit> smaug, hobophobe: Seriously? How did I miss that... -.-
# [22:34] <philor> hub: yes to both
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# [22:34] <Shondoit> smaug, hobophobe: Thanks a lot. =)
# [22:34] <@bsmedberg> ted: yeah, well....
# [22:35] <davidb> robcee: you fixed my script for check a11y right? (cc ehsan)
# [22:35] <robcee> I just replied to ehsan and the list
# [22:35] <davidb> perfecto
# [22:35] <@ehsan> davidb: this really sucks, cause it means that all bi-lingual people will have a11y turned on!!!
# [22:35] <robcee> yeah, I have a canadian flag on my bar as well
# [22:35] <robcee> this is brutal
# [22:36] <robcee> also 12.75% of users on nightly!
# [22:36] <davidb> ehsan: yeah - we're gonna create a whitelist
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# [22:36] <davidb> in the meantime we're turning a11y off for nightly
# [22:36] <@ehsan> robcee: how do I get to that scratchpad?
# [22:36] <@ehsan> davidb: cool
# [22:37] <robcee> ehsan: shift-F4 or the web developers menu under Tools
# [22:37] <ted> bsmedberg: i would like to have glandium's FF-on-XR concerns addressed, at least
# [22:37] <@ehsan> robcee: I mean, how do I get to a chrome scratchpad?
# [22:37] <robcee> you'll need to set devtools.chrome.enabled to true to get a browser scratchpad
# [22:37] <@ehsan> oh ok
# [22:37] <ted> bsmedberg: the "forget to set that makefile var and shit breaks" scenario is a little scary
# [22:38] <ted> but not much worse than the million other ways you can break shit with makefiles and packaging etc
# [22:38] <glandium> ted: but do we really need one more way to fuxk things up?
# [22:38] <@ehsan> robcee: where does the result of the expression being evaluated go?
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# [22:38] <glandium> ted: when the value could be auto-determined
# [22:38] <@khuey> what's the shutdown notification where we have to finish doing stuff in the profile directory?
# [22:38] <jtcranmer> profile-after-change?
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# [22:39] <robcee> ehsan: if you use "Display", it'll get appended as a comment
# [22:39] <robcee> (in the scratchpad)
# [22:39] <bbondy> NeilAway: review ping! :)
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# [22:39] <@khuey> profile-before-change, it looks like
# [22:39] <@ehsan> robcee: ok, I gotta say, scratchpad is not easy to use ;)
# [22:39] <@ehsan> davidb: and, turns out that I don't have a11y enabled!
# [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cf878715fdc6 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 700000 - Bump Sync version to 1.18.0
# [22:40] <ted> glandium: your comment 30 suggestion sounds plausible
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# [22:40] <ted> except that'd mean that *all* appdir code gets installed to $(DIST)/$(app)
# [22:40] <ted> even for non-firefox apps
# [22:40] <ted> unless we have a confvars.sh opt-in
# [22:40] <NeilAway> bbondy: your channels-resolve-symlinks patch broke subscribing to feeds in builds using symlinked subscribe.xhtml :s
# [22:40] <blassey> philor: I know I've asked before, but what does "a;r" mean?
# [22:40] <ted> or unless you were thinking of putting that into a common.mk or something
# [22:41] <robcee> ehsan: first time's always painful.
# [22:41] <Ms2ger> blassey, android;retriggered
# [22:41] <philor> blassey: "android; retriggered", unless you want the long version
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# [22:41] <glandium> ted: a confvars.sh opt-in sounds reasonable
# [22:41] <philor> for which we first need to clear the channel of minors
# [22:41] <bbondy> NeilAway: what channel does that use?
# [22:41] * gps ponders if I should get the official tree cutover procedure updated to include Sync version bumps...
# [22:41] <ted> bsmedberg: would you be okay with that?
# [22:41] <blassey> thanks
# [22:41] <jtcranmer> humph: it's interesting that your old, old, old DXR instance on the seneca site still comes up on search results
# [22:41] <bbondy> file?
# [22:41] <Ms2ger> gps, yes
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# [22:41] <gps> Ms2ger: how would I do that?
# [22:42] <ted> bsmedberg: firefox sets something in confvars.sh to say that everything under browser/ should get stuck under dist/browser ?
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# [22:42] <glandium> ted: although, bsmedberg is maybe interested in having webapprt use the same facility
# [22:42] <ted> yeah...
# [22:42] <Ms2ger> gps, it's on the wiki somewhere, I think... Ask lsblakk?
# [22:42] <ted> i guess that only solves the "on by default for browser" bit
# [22:42] <NeilAway> bbondy: when a document attempts to access the feed reader, the feed writer checks whether the document is really the subscribe page, by looking at the channel's uri
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# [22:42] <NeilAway> bbondy: it expects that to match the uri obtained by converting the chrome uri for the subscribe page (which is what the page is redirected to internally)
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# [22:43] <bbondy> NeilAway: Maybe it should check originalUri
# [22:43] <bbondy> ?
# [22:43] <glandium> ted: we could add some kind of generic thing that include a common.mk file from $(topsrcdir)/first-sub-dir
# [22:43] <NeilAway> bbondy: but if you have a symlinked subscribe page in your chrome, then the channel looks up the original file, but the conversion does not
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# [22:43] <bbondy> NeilAway: bug#?
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# [22:44] <NeilAway> bbondy: no, the original uri is the uri of the feed itself
# [22:44] <glandium> ted: so that any browser/**/Makefile.in would include browser/common.mk, any webapprt/**/Makefile.in would include webapprt/common.mk, etc.
# [22:44] <NeilAway> bbondy: only just now figured it out
# [22:44] <ted> glandium: seems workable
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# [22:45] <NeilAway> bbondy: you made the channel check the target of the symlink, am I right?
# [22:45] <bbondy> NeilAway: that doesn't suprise me fwiw, I expected fallout from that
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# [22:46] <bbondy> NeilAway: yes correct, bz asked me to, take it up with him if you don't like it :)
# [22:46] <NeilAway> bbondy: do you remember which file you had to patch?
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# [22:46] <bbondy> NeilAway: I'll cc you on the bug with the patch
# [22:46] <glandium> ted: and i have the right make-fu to get $(topsrcdir)/first-sub-dir, I'll paste it in the bug
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# [22:47] <@bsmedberg> glandium: yeah, I am
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# [22:47] <@bsmedberg> ted/glandium: how about every makefile has to specify DIST_SUBDIR
# [22:47] <bbondy> NeilAway: CC'ed you on bug 670514
# [22:47] <@bsmedberg> but the platform makefiles will just leave it empty for now
# [22:47] <@bsmedberg> since I don't actually want to move the files
# [22:48] <glandium> bsmedberg: that'd require to keep a list of what does not opt-in to that
# [22:48] <@bsmedberg> glandium: no, I mean every makefile
# [22:48] <NeilAway> bbondy: I didn't really want that, but nm
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# [22:48] <@bsmedberg> would have to specify it
# [22:48] <NeilAway> bbondy: I could have just read the changeset or something
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# [22:49] <glandium> bsmedberg: that's imho a recipe for (small scale) disaster
# [22:49] <@bsmedberg> what kind of disaster?
# [22:49] <bbondy> NeilAway: This gives a bit more context regarding the motivation for the change in question. You can thank me later.
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# [22:50] <glandium> bsmedberg: DIST_SUBDIR missing
# [22:50] <glandium> where it should be
# [22:50] <NeilAway> bbondy: I saw the bug before actually, just couldn't remember the #
# [22:50] <Cork> is there any special person to cc on css translate:transform bugs?
# [22:50] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I don't understand, it would just fail to build with an $(error)
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# [22:50] <@khuey> Cork: dbaron is a good start
# [22:51] <Cork> thx
# [22:51] <bbondy> NeilAway: I don't keep track of who has acces to sec bugs, but feel free to un-CC yourself
# [22:51] <@smaug> sheppy: any news about the CC issue?
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# [22:51] <bbondy> *feal
# [22:51] <bbondy> *access
# [22:51] <sheppy> smaug: not yet, he's doing some testing
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# [22:51] <@smaug> k
# [22:52] <glandium> bsmedberg: apart from the fact that it would be as annoying as mercurial saying that it doesn't know a command and tells you what extension you need to enable, that would need to keep track of subdirectories where this needs to be done, (if you don't want a build failure in platform)
# [22:52] <NeilAway> bbondy: well, now I'm there, I can see I traced it from 751905
# [22:52] <glandium> bsmedberg: and doing so would actually be more code than making the variable set automatically
# [22:52] <glandium> bsmedberg: (with a common.mk file as suggested)
# [22:53] <@bsmedberg> I really don't like the magicness of interpreting the source directory
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# [22:53] <@bsmedberg> because we have been talking about moving code out of browser/ into smaller chunks in many cases, and this would change build results based on something that isn't evident
# [22:54] <glandium> bsmedberg: you'd have to do that to decide whether building platform or not.
# [22:54] <gavin> moving code out of browser/?
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# [22:54] <gavin> who's been talking about that?
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# [22:54] <Ms2ger> Out of browser.js, maybe
# [22:55] <glandium> bsmedberg: if you move something that has DIST_SUBDIR=browser into platform, then you end up with something in the platform that installs stuff in browser, that's not much better...
# [22:55] <Ms2ger> ehsan, are you going to continue reviewing? I can add some more... ;)
# [22:55] <@bsmedberg> gavin: consolidating the places code, for example
# [22:55] <glandium> gavin: I can imagine a few things that could move from browser to toolkit
# [22:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: sure!
# [22:56] <gavin> well the places code lives in toolkit
# [22:56] <gavin> unless you mean the UI, which I don't see moving anywhere
# [22:57] <gavin> I don't know of any pieces of browser/ code that are immediately suitable for moving, into "core" or otherwise
# [22:59] <zzzzz_> this was on planet http://blog.mozilla.org/dolske/2012/06/03/boom-goes-the-dynamite/
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# [23:00] <gavin> that's browser.js, quite separate from what we're talking about
# [23:00] <gaston> the python EGG.INFO file bites! you lose 1.
# [23:00] <glandium> bsmedberg: why wouldn't the stock xulrunner stub work for browser? (I understand for metro or webapprt)
# [23:01] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so, I'd do that, but it's kind of a weird loop
# [23:01] <@ehsan> heh, agreed
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# [23:02] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I can end = GetChildAt(aEndOffset); while (child != end) { ... }?
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# [23:03] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: what would be the point?
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# [23:03] <Ms2ger> ehsan, addressing your comment :)
# [23:04] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you don't need to grab the end of the list at all
# [23:04] <Ms2ger> Why not?
# [23:04] <@ehsan> because you can just loop while child is not null
# [23:05] <Ms2ger> That's not the loop we're doing now
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# [23:05] <@ehsan> hmm, what was the bug # again?
# [23:05] <Ms2ger> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=761299&attachment=629903
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# [23:08] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: so what the existing loop does is to go through all children and create delete transactions for each right?
# [23:08] <Ms2ger> Not *all* the children
# [23:08] <Ms2ger> The children in the range [aStartOffset, aEndOffset)
# [23:08] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [23:09] <@ehsan> yeah
# [23:09] <@ehsan> hrm
# [23:09] <Ms2ger> That's kinda the point :)
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# [23:09] <@ehsan> heh yeah you're right
# [23:09] <@ehsan> r=me then
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# [23:09] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
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# [23:11] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: why is this patch correct? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=761308&attachment=629913 :)
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# [23:12] <Ms2ger> ehsan, because GetChildNodes always returns a list, even if it's a node type that can't have children
# [23:12] <@ehsan> really?
# [23:13] <@ehsan> that's stupid! ;)(
# [23:13] <Ms2ger> (And it got in the way of removing all calls to GetChildNodes in editor/)
# [23:13] <Ms2ger> Yes, really
# [23:13] <Waldo> sure, wouldn't it be crazy to have the no-kids case look arbitrarily different?
# [23:13] <Ms2ger> See, my spec says so! http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
# [23:13] <bdahl> does anyone have any suggestions on figuring out a talos memory regression?
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# [23:13] <bdahl> i've found https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools but there are 100 tools there
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# [23:14] <@smaug> bdahl: what is the regression range
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# [23:15] <@smaug> knowing the regression range helps choosing the right tool
# [23:15] <bdahl> smaug: looking at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.tree-management/sN60GtP4aBc/WxksjMpaAroJ
# [23:15] <@smaug> and perhaps it is so obvious that no tool is needed
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# [23:19] <@smaug> bdahl: so mbrubeck commented
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# [23:19] <@smaug> bdahl: pdf.js thingie
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# [23:19] <bdahl> smaug: yes, i'm the one submitted the patch
# [23:19] <bdahl> s/one/one who
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# [23:19] <lsblakk> peterv: ping
# [23:20] <mbrubeck> I have no idea either, bdahl. :(
# [23:20] <@smaug> bdahl: ah, didn't realize that
# [23:20] <@smaug> bdahl: so, do we now default to pdf.js ?
# [23:20] <bdahl> yes
# [23:20] <@smaug> is it possible that we had other pdf viewer on linux/talos
# [23:20] <mbrubeck> I don't even know what the "Trace Malloc" benchmark does or measures exactly
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# [23:21] <jwir3> lsblakk: Thank you for backing out bug 733614 from ff14. I had forgotten about it. :0
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# [23:21] <mbrubeck> I guess there's some explanation at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Trace-malloc
# [23:22] <Ms2ger> lsblakk, peterv isn't around today, fwiw
# [23:22] <lsblakk> hm. can anyone else land bug 743666 on mozilla-beta?
# [23:22] <lsblakk> XHR.onuploadprogress
# [23:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f918d74f736c - Malini Das - Bug 752065 - add importScript method to Marionette, r=jgriffin, a=test-only, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [23:22] * Ms2ger looks bz's way
# [23:23] <Ms2ger> And with that, I'm really off
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# [23:25] <bdahl> smaug: mbrubeck: do you know who I could ping to get more info about this test and debugging?
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# [23:25] <gregglind> is there an in-app svg rasterizer?
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# [23:26] <gregglind> (i.e., here is my svg, give me an PNG/JPG)
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# [23:28] <@smaug> bdahl: don't know. But I'd figure out if talos contains pages which have inline pdf files
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# [23:29] <bz> lsblakk: ping?
# [23:30] <lsblakk> bz: pong
# [23:30] <bz> lsblakk: I can land https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743666 on beta/aurora/m-c as needed
# [23:30] <bz> lsblakk: later tonight
# [23:30] <lsblakk> bz: excellent, ty - migration is complete so i believe we need it on mozilla-beta
# [23:31] <bz> lsblakk: beta is 14 now? Then yes
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# [23:31] <bz> lsblakk: ok, I'll do that in a few hours
# [23:31] <bz> lsblakk: back to dinner. ;)
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# [23:32] <bdahl> ctalbert: ping
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# [23:35] <ctalbert> bdahl: pong - in mtg
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# [23:36] <bdahl> ctalbert: do know who to ping about helping figure out a talos regression?
# [23:37] <bholley> blassey: I'm mostly done, but could talk for a sec if you want
# [23:38] <blassey> if you're about to post a patch, no need to talk to me
# [23:38] <blassey> just get it up, reviewed and landed
# [23:38] <blassey> :-)
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# [23:39] <bholley> blassey: er, huh?
# [23:39] <bholley> blassey: I meant "done for the day"
# [23:39] <bholley> blassey: as in MFBT
# [23:39] <blassey> ahh
# [23:39] <blassey> ok
# [23:39] -lsblakk:#developers- Beta/Aurora trees have been returned to APPROVAL REQUIRED
# [23:40] <blassey> tomorrow morning then?
# [23:40] <bholley> blassey: I'm sending mail
# [23:40] <blassey> thanks
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# [23:40] <blassey> I'm also pretty done if you can't tell
# [23:40] <blassey> done as in "brain not functioning"
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# [23:41] <ctalbert> bdahl: I'd ping jmaher if I were you, he'd be best able to help sort things out
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# [23:44] <jmaher> oh, did I hear my hane
# [23:44] <jmaher> s/hane/name/
# [23:44] <philor> gps: ping
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# [23:44] <gps> philor: pong
# [23:45] <gps> ... I don't see any tree breakages
# [23:45] <philor> gps: release doesn't have 755339, because the merge to there happened last Thursday
# [23:45] <philor> heh
# [23:45] <philor> not yet, but you would, when someone had to land something on release for a chemspill :)
# [23:45] <gps> I know. it is a build infra only patch
# [23:46] <bdahl> jmaher: I'm looking for advice on figuring out a talos memory regression
# [23:46] <bdahl> http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[29,63,18]]&sel=1338818805921.5896,1338829385513.4265&displayrange=7&datatype=running
# [23:46] <gps> I'm not touching release - it should get the fix from beta when the merge happens
# [23:46] <philor> gps: no, I'm telling you that the merge from beta to release happened before you landed on beta
# [23:46] <gps> oh
# [23:46] <gps> in that case I should land on release!
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# [23:47] <gps> but I'm about to go to bed. maybe I should wait until tomorrow
# [23:47] <gps> was going to wait for greens on esr to come in before I hit the sack
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# [23:51] <philor> oh noes, burning Android on aurora, whatever could that be?
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# [23:51] <NeilAway> gregglind: draw it to a canvas?
# [23:52] <gps> philor: I was just making the patch to release and the patch got messed up again!
# [23:52] <gps> luckily I didn't push :)
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# [23:54] <bdahl> mbrubeck: looks like we both filed bugs
# [23:54] <bdahl> i'll close mine
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# [23:54] <mbrubeck> oops, sorry. :)
# [23:55] <jmaher> bdahl: ok, do you know how to run talos locally?
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# [23:56] <bdahl> jmaher: just started looking into it...https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools
# [23:57] <bdahl> jmaher: is there a better page?
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# [23:57] <jmaher> bdahl: if you want to run stuff locally before/after a changeset, you will need to run talos on your desktop: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos#Running_locally_-_Source_Code
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# [23:58] <gregglind> NeilAway, I am trying to find a reference for it, or example code, but having trouble. I am okay with limiting to Fx only if necessary.
# [23:59] <philor> lsblakk: I just clobbered aurora and beta, if you get any more surprise build bustage
# [23:59] <lsblakk> ok
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# [23:59] <lsblakk> i clobbered them before pushing - was there a reason to re-clobber?
# [23:59] <philor> your clobber didn't take, apparently
# [23:59] <lsblakk> sigh.
# [23:59] <lsblakk> this happened last time too
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