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# [00:17] <espadrine> Has anyone looked at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2011Nov/0086.html? It allows drag and drop of folders from the desktop while keeping the tree structure.
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# [00:27] <sstangl> where do I go to file a bug against Rypple?
# [00:27] <Waldo|tablet> heh
# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e96e0eaa6d85 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 759885 - Add support for running mochitest-plain on B2G emulators, r=jmaher, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
# [00:27] <jhammel> i have an answer for that question, but not one befitting polite company ;)
# [00:28] <mwu> ooo
# [00:28] <mwu> mochitest on b2g.
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# [00:29] <Waldo|tablet> mwu: ph33r?
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# [00:29] <mwu> wha
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# [00:30] <Waldo|tablet> I'm sure philor must!
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# [00:31] <mwu> oh, in terms of oranges
# [00:31] <mwu> um, I guess we'll see.
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# [00:33] <heftig> http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/screenshots/webgl.png <-- misrendering in my firefox builds. any idea what could be happening here? mozilla builds work fine
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# [00:35] <philor> no real reason for them to be any worse than Android XUL mochitests, which are solid as a rock
# [00:36] <ejpbruel> heftig: you might have better luck in #gfx
# [00:36] <heftig> okay, thanks
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# [00:37] <philor> unlike a certain other class of tests with a five letter name including the letters s, a, and t but oddly not another a or an n
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# [00:37] <ejpbruel> heftig: no guarantees though, most of the graphics team is in New Zealand, apparently :P
# [00:37] <jhammel> SAT tests?
# [00:37] <philor> yeah, I'm haunted by them
# [00:38] <philor> my robocheck3 scores weren't high enough to get me in a decent school
# [00:38] <mbrubeck> jhammel: No, TSA tests. If you prefer to opt out then you must submit to an enhanced pat-down
# [00:38] <philor> is there some Windows option to snap the mouse cursor to buttons?
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# [00:40] * Waldo|tablet wants santa tests
# [00:41] <jhammel> Waldo|tablet: talos *does* currently have 666 files...i think that's as close as you're going to get
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# [00:43] <philor> now *that's* talos for you - "I want Santa!" "As close as you're going to get is the number of the beast" :)
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# [00:44] <jhammel> philor++
# [00:45] <jhammel> santa, satan....they're both red pagan beings with magical minions
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# [00:46] <philor> I love this new system where someone who isn't around pushes patches to beta for someone else who isn't around, and then they both ignore the burning
# [00:47] <mwu> teamwork ftw
# [00:47] <jhammel> well, as long as you're happy with it
# [00:47] <Mook_as> philor: yes, control panel, mouse, pointer options, section group, checkbox? ("Automatically move opinter to the default button in a dialog box")
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# [00:48] <philor> Mook_as: bless you! though "dialog box" won't explain why a reftest button is getting hovered on just one Windows slave, will it?
# [00:48] <Mook_as> no, and if that's set on a build slave, somebody's _very_ crazy
# [00:48] <philor> welcome to releng's world
# [00:49] <Mook_as> seems more likely that somebody VNCed in or something at some point and just left the cursor at an unfortunate point?
# [00:50] <ejpbruel> how do i run mochitests locally in gdb?
# [00:50] <philor> the mouse is rumored to be in the center of the screen, the reftest window opens off to the left, and yet, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761075
# [00:50] <philor> actually, *was* in the center, has since been moved
# [00:50] <rillian> ejpbruel, you can attach once the window is up and then re-run the test you're interested in with the browser interface
# [00:50] <ejpbruel> simply refresh?
# [00:51] <rillian> ejpbruel, if you're just on a single test page, yes
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# [00:51] <rillian> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mochitest#Debugging_individual_tests says you can ask it to run the debugger for you
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# [00:55] <philor> so then I was going to punt, since the test doesn't really seem like it needs the button, but when I back out the patch it tests to see if it would still fail without the button, it doesn't fail even with the button
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# [01:00] <mcsmurf> hi, question on mozilla-build (Windows)?
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# [01:00] <mcsmurf> do I need some trick to enable the command line history?
# [01:00] <Mook_as> mcsmurf: usually, no?
# [01:01] <mcsmurf> I remember this worked once, but now it doesn't work anymore (I'm using a new computer now, so installed from scratch)
# [01:01] <mcsmurf> hm..
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# [01:04] <mcsmurf> Mook_as: do you happen to know in which file the command line history gets stored? Maybe I have some bogus setting somewhere
# [01:04] <bonnie> jlebar, PING
# [01:04] <mcsmurf> as I copied a few settings/files from my old PC
# [01:04] <Mook_as> mcsmurf: ~/.bash_history ?
# [01:04] <bonnie> jlebar, my caps lock is a little messed up on ubuntu
# [01:05] <mcsmurf> oh...
# [01:05] <mcsmurf> now I have an idea :)
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# [01:12] <nthomas> philor: so should we just disable talos-r3-w7-026 for now ?
# [01:13] <nthomas> and/or reimage it
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# [01:14] <philor> nthomas: I guess reimage, I've run out of guesses about why it would hover a button miles from the mouse
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# [01:15] <mcsmurf> btw: I know that .bash_history problem from my old computer already, suddenly one day it did not update the bash history anymore
# [01:16] <mcsmurf> though I'm surprised that noone else seems to have that problem ;)
# [01:16] <bonnie> jlebar, sorry didn't msg you about the caps lock. just wanted to let you know that i think i've fixed the idle service bug. running tests within the iframe helped quite a bit. so thanks. waiting for my try result. the tests seem to pass on the loaner test slave. will see that try result!
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# [01:31] <mcsmurf> ah, I see...
# [01:31] <mcsmurf> I always closed the mozilla-build/msys bash shell by clicking the [X]
# [01:31] <mcsmurf> you need to use "exit", then it writes the bash history to disk
# [01:31] <mcsmurf> otherwise it doesn't
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# [01:32] <mcsmurf> silly Windows users, eh ;-)
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# [01:33] <jhammel> sounds more like silly windows programmers
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# [01:34] <mcsmurf> as an alternative you can use "export PROMPT_COMMAND="history -a" " in your .bashrc, then it writes the history to file after every command..
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# [01:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a567f52fa0d8 - Michael Wu - Bug 761808 - Fix OMX plugin build on OSX, r=doublec
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# [01:45] <mcsmurf> um..
# [01:45] <mcsmurf> "local changed build/pylib/blessings/blessings.egg-info/PKG-INFO which remote deleted"
# [01:45] <mcsmurf> should I choose delete or use changed?
# [01:46] <mcsmurf> probably delete I guess..
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# [01:47] <philor> yep
# [01:48] <philor> dbaron: reftest bustage
# [01:48] <philor> well, slight bendage
# [01:49] <@dbaron> philor, looking
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# [01:56] <@dbaron> philor, ok, it passed locally because of another patch in my tree that we decided in today's triage meeting not to take
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# [01:57] <@dbaron> philor, but it should be a simple adjustment to the test
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# [01:58] <philor> dbaron: sweet
# [01:58] <mcsmurf> btw, more or less interesting thing: My new PC has a mainboard that was released like ~3 month ago (Z77 chipset)
# [01:58] <mcsmurf> the Firefox version that was included on the utilities CD was 3.5.4, heh
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# [02:06] <Bas> jhammel: No, you don't get it, it's -always- Windows' fault. :P Crashes, usability errors.. everything! Because you know.. well, just, it is.
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# [02:06] <johanc> so, with tab.style.removeProperty("direction") I am getting an infinite loop
# [02:06] <jhammel> Bas: ah, so like the war in the mideast...windows fault
# [02:06] <philor> Bas: even https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761049?
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# [02:07] <Bas> jhammel: For sure.
# [02:07] <Bas> philor: Definitely looks like Microsoft probably injected some faulty code into Firefox or Linux there to sabotage things ;)
# [02:08] <Waldo> jhammel confirms what I already knew, that TCP packet loss is windows' fault
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# [02:08] <jlebar> bonnie, Congratulations!
# [02:09] <Waldo> er, I meant Bas, of course!
# [02:09] <Bas> waldo: Hehe, well, at some point the Windows TCP stack might've actually been at a point where that was true for Windows users :p
# [02:10] <Waldo> Bas: actually I was alluding to TCP's sliding windows
# [02:10] <Bas> Oooh, clever :)
# [02:10] <Bas> I hadn't even thought of that.
# [02:10] <Waldo> it's usually a mistake to take anything I say seriously
# [02:11] <jhammel> what about that? ^
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# [02:11] <Waldo> especially that
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# [02:11] <jhammel> oh noez
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# [02:16] <bonnie> jlebar, well still waiting for that green tree! so yeah you did help on friday :)
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# [02:17] <jlebar> bonnie, I'm happy to hear it. Mochitests can be really tricky sometimes.
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# [02:17] <bonnie> jlebar, i guess so.
# [02:18] <jlebar> bonnie, Do you have a new project lined up?
# [02:19] <bonnie> jlebar, i did get started on string encoding / decoding but returned to the idle api when i got a loaner test machine .... which i am sad to say i have returned. i ended up using it quite a bit after all and was super useful.
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# [02:19] <jlebar> bonnie, Well, it will always be there if you need it. :D
# [02:19] <bonnie> jlebar, but out of the kindness of my heart ... cough cough i've requested to return the machine back to the general public and pool!
# [02:19] <jlebar> lol
# [02:20] * njn wonders if anybody knows Ms2ger's real name
# [02:20] <bonnie> jlebar, i'm starting a campaign .... to get my own try server :) .... not happening but anyways so yeah working on string enc/dec.
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# [02:21] <Bas> Does anyone know what the thunderbird channel is?
# [02:21] <jlebar> njn, I think some people do. He's listed as ms2ger at w3c, but I bet he had to sign a contract...
# [02:21] <fabrice1> Bas: #maildev
# [02:21] <jlebar> njn, Or...he's a committer, right? So he signed a contract with Mozilla.
# [02:21] <Bas> fabrice1: Thanks, that's so intuitive too :)
# [02:22] <njn> jlebar: and presumably Ms2ger's mother knows his (her?) name... I was more wondering about the people in this channel
# [02:22] <njn> :)
# [02:22] <jdm> I missed the opportunity to ply it from him with beer
# [02:23] <khuey> Ms2ger is a him
# [02:23] <Waldo> em ess too jer
# [02:23] <bonnie> jlebar, njn, well johnny once told me that hr or the people who manage the contracts at mozilla know his real name... and that they are about the only ones at mozilla who do.
# [02:23] <khuey> yeah he has a commit access form on file
# [02:23] <khuey> so somebody has his real name
# [02:24] <jlebar> Although really, what would have stopped him from signing the form with a completely fake name?
# [02:24] <njn> Waldo: cool. Any idea what it means?
# [02:24] <jlebar> It's not like we ask for ID.
# [02:24] <Waldo> probably it's the same story as for moz_bug_r_a4 (sp?), a few people know, most don't
# [02:24] <firebot> The dictionary service is not accessible right now, sorry.
# [02:24] <bonnie> khuey, the downside of my new desk .... IT requests!
# [02:24] <njn> shut up, Firebot
# [02:24] <Waldo> njn: I was just saying how I pronounce it, but I think others have used the same; I don't know what it means
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# [02:24] <njn> Waldo: half the time I pronounce it in my head as "message 2 er"
# [02:24] <jdm> njn: me too.
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# [02:29] <lduros1> I'm looking for all the language packs for FF12 on ftp.mozilla.org
# [02:30] <lduros1> is it in pub/firefox/releases/?
# [02:30] <lduros1> :-)
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# [02:33] <lduros1> ah ok, it's in the OS folder
# [02:33] <nthomas> yup
# [02:33] <lduros1> there shouldn't be any difference between xpis for 32bit and 64bit
# [02:33] <lduros1> for linux, for instance
# [02:33] <nthomas> not really
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# [02:37] <khuey> bonnie: there are a lot of downsides
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# [02:45] <lduros1> to bundle extensions with a build of Firefox, all I need to do is unzip the xpi and place the folder inside /browser/app/profile/extensions -- or is there something else I should add in a conf file or elsewhere? thanks
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# [02:49] <bonnie> khuey, so i'm beginning to realise...
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# [02:49] <KWierso> lduros1: (I don't know this for sure, but...) do you even have to unzip the xpi anymore? Firefox can use not-unpacked extensions these days...
# [02:50] <lduros1> KWierso: yeh, that's true :-), so should it be {uuid}.xpi? :-) does it need the brackets?
# [02:50] <lduros1> :-)
# [02:50] <KWierso> dunno, never tried it :)
# [02:50] <lduros1> hehe
# [02:50] <lduros1> :-)
# [02:50] <Unfocused> yes
# [02:50] <darktrojan> yes
# [02:50] <Unfocused> the {} is typically part of the ID
# [02:51] <lduros1> ahhh, if only I could do: cfx make-firefox-with-some-random-addon ;-)
# [02:51] <lduros1> Unfocused: but it should still have the .xpi at the end?
# [02:51] <Unfocused> yes
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# [02:51] <lduros1> and just because it's in browser/app/profile/extensions, it will get bundled and installed?
# [02:52] <Unfocused> er, pass. i always forget how bundling stuff works
# [02:53] <lduros1> hmmm
# [02:53] <lduros1> some websites talk about a whole process of using install.rdf and blabla, unpacking, all sorts of crazy stuff
# [02:53] <lduros1> I was hoping there would be something easy
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# [02:54] <lduros1> there's an installed-extensions.txt file in that extensions/ folder
# [02:54] <lduros1> inside there's one line: theme,{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}
# [02:54] <lduros1> I wonder if I would have to add the other extensions
# [02:54] <darktrojan> that's the default theme
# [02:54] <lduros1> so it's installed by default, that's progress
# [02:54] <Unfocused> ignore installed-extensions.txt, it hasn't been used in many years
# [02:54] <lduros1> Unfocused: ah good
# [02:54] <darktrojan> is this for just you?
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# [02:55] <lduros1> no it's for IceCat
# [02:55] <darktrojan> oh right
# [02:55] <lduros1> I made the 12.0 release but screwed up
# [02:55] <lduros1> the extensions were in: browser/branding/unofficial/extensions/
# [02:55] <lduros1> and they got copied over fine in dist/bin/extensions
# [02:55] <lduros1> so I thought my job was done
# [02:56] <lduros1> but not true, because then you run sudo make install, and the extensions don't get copied over to /usr/local/lib/icecat...
# [02:56] <darktrojan> yeah they don't get copied to the package
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# [02:56] <lduros1> yeh it's kind of a niche thing
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# [02:57] <lduros1> unfortunately :-)
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# [02:57] <lduros1> ah well, I'll try to build
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# [02:57] <fabrice1> lduros1: you have to add in in browser/installer/package-manifest.in
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# [02:57] <lduros1> fabrice1: even when it's in browser/app/profile/extensions/
# [02:58] <fabrice1> yes
# [02:58] <darktrojan> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/installer/package-manifest.in#495
# [02:58] <lduros1> same for browser/branding/unofficial/extensions?
# [02:58] <fabrice1> yes
# [02:58] <lduros1> ok yeh someone mentioned it later on for unofficial/extensions
# [02:58] <lduros1> so technically I could call the xpi files anything, not the uuid?
# [02:58] <fabrice1> sure
# [02:59] <lduros1> that pdfjs doesn't look like a uuid haha
# [02:59] <lduros1> :-)
# [02:59] <lduros1> ok ok very good
# [02:59] <lduros1> so now I have to decide whether my extensions should be in browser/branding/unofficial/extensions or browser/app/profile/extensions... hmmm what makes more sense semantically?
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# [03:01] <fabrice1> lduros1: what is your extension?
# [03:01] <lduros1> i need to find that eight-ball thing again
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# [03:01] <lduros1> fabrice1: priv3, https-everywhere, librejs, ...
# [03:02] <lduros1> just bundling stuff for privacy and extra freedom :-)
# [03:02] <fabrice1> oh.. you're bundling a lot
# [03:02] <fabrice1> branding may be better for themes
# [03:02] <fabrice1> but I'm not really sure
# [03:02] <lduros1> yeh, that's the point of a custom FF :-)
# [03:02] <lduros1> to bundle some stuff that make it custom
# [03:03] <lduros1> maybe app/profile makes more sense then
# [03:03] <bhackett> does anyone know, for <script defer> scripts inside an iframe, whether those should execute after the iframe is done loading or after the outer document is done?
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# [03:03] <lduros1> fabrice1 darktrojan Unfocused: In any case, I thank you all for your help! :-)
# [03:04] <darktrojan> np
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# [03:12] <@bz> we support python back to 2.5, right?
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# [03:14] <khuey> unfortunately, yes
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# [03:26] <Waldo> when the only options are to laugh or to cry...
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# [03:54] <khuey> this is new
# [03:55] <cjones> http://hitchcock.tv/mov/rear_window/images/window2.gif
# [03:55] <jlebar> lol
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# [04:12] <darktrojan> I think I'm going to try to land megapatch now
# [04:13] <darktrojan> this could be entertaining
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# [04:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a15d75939cd5 - Geoff Lankow - Bug 749930 - Replace uses of nsILocalFile with nsIFile (compiled code only); r=bsmedberg
# [04:19] <darktrojan> we'll soon find out, I guess
# [04:19] <JonathanS> Unfocused, did you have it ready to cook?
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# [04:20] <darktrojan> he has an emergency stash by the microwave
# [04:20] <JonathanS> Microwave and WiFi share same frequency.
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# [04:21] <JonathanS> Unfocused, is it weird that gigabit sounds like too close to gigawatts?
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# [04:22] <darktrojan> welcome to the english language
# [04:22] <KWierso> Power over ethernet?
# [04:23] <Unfocused> 1.21 gigawatts
# [04:23] <JonathanS> GREAT SCOTT!
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# [04:26] <@dbaron> I think that's less the English language than the metric use of prefixes.
# [04:27] <darktrojan> something like that
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# [04:32] <Unfocused> (says the american)
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# [04:47] <bsmith> what are the JS equivalents to NS_SUCCEEDED and NS_FAILED
# [04:47] <bsmith> ?
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# [04:48] <@bz> bsmith: hmm?
# [04:48] <@bz> bsmith: what do you mean?
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# [04:49] <bsmith> I have been asked to define a callback interface where the callback will have the signature signFinished(in nsresult rv, in AUTF8String somethingElse)
# [04:49] <bsmith> I know normally when an XPCOM method RETURNS a failure code, it gets converted into an exception
# [04:49] <bsmith> but, when an nsreuslt appears as a argument to a function, how should we test for success/failure
# [04:49] <@bz> bsmith: ah
# [04:49] <@bz> I see
# [04:50] <@bz> Components.isSuccessCode() should work, I think
# [04:50] <@bz> if you have a Components
# [04:50] <bsmith> Yes, I do have components. thank you
# [04:50] <Unfocused> yep
# [04:51] <bsmith> by the way, where does the IDL for Components live?
# [04:51] <@bz> js/xpconnect/idl/xpccomponents.idl
# [04:51] <bsmith> awesome, thank you
# [04:52] <@bz> no problem
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# [04:58] <darktrojan> bug 761049's become an intermittent green
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# [05:09] <robcee> darktrojan: any idea why?
# [05:10] <darktrojan> no
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# [05:10] <robcee> we had some suspicions
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# [05:36] <jcranmer> oka
# [05:36] <jcranmer> this is just sad
# [05:36] <Havvy> What is?
# [05:37] <jcranmer> when I can replace a perl script whose runtime is measured in hours
# [05:37] <jcranmer> with one whch barely takes a minute
# [05:37] <jcranmer> (a python vresion)
# [05:37] <Havvy> Ah.
# [05:37] <jcranmer> 58.494s according to time
# [05:37] <darktrojan> hah
# [05:37] <Havvy> What does the perl script do?
# [05:38] <jcranmer> effectively, combine four files together
# [05:38] <Havvy> And it took hours to do that?
# [05:38] <Havvy> What's the complication?
# [05:38] <jcranmer> only about an hour
# [05:38] <jcranmer> it's ~300MB of data
# [05:38] <jcranmer> which represents code coverage of all mozilla tests
# [05:39] <Havvy> Ah.
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# [05:39] <jcranmer> what it is, I think, is that reading the file moves at a glaial pace
# [05:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3585e062dd01 - Chris Jones - Bug 761894: Band-aid bustage from bug 760675 when using WebGL on same thread as GL compositor. rs=jrmuizel
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# [06:02] <philor> oh, maybe that's just hitting bz's 2006 assertion from bug 362649 at just the wrong time, and leaking a fetch of a 404 phishing data URL
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# [06:08] <taras> Jesse: i have jankblock+
# [06:09] <taras> awesome vid though
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# [06:22] <jwir3> nthomas: yes
# [06:23] <jwir3> nthomas: working it out now, thanks though
# [06:23] <nthomas> have fun
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# [06:38] <Ameya> How to store JSON string on file
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# [06:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a112464c2a7a - Scott Johnson - Bug 749186, Followup 2: Crashtest for bug 749186 [r=dbaron].
# [06:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/30e2c7c9f24e - Scott Johnson - Bug 749186, Followup Patch 1: Cache font inflation settings in pres shell to prevent crash. [r=dbaron]
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# [06:52] <ewong> is anyone else getting a "HTTP Error 414: Request-URI Too Large" when trying to clone hmo/releases/mozilla-release ?
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# [06:57] <philor> ewong: what version of Mercurial?
# [06:57] <ewong> philor 1.4
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# [06:57] <philor> fixed in 1.6
# [06:58] <ewong> oh ok.. thanks philor.. guess I need to update the hg on this centos system
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# [07:00] <darktrojan> woah 1.4
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# [07:02] <ewong> darktrojan: yeah.. didn't know |yum install mercurial| installs an old version.. ;/
# [07:02] <ewong> and this new version has progress.. *thumbs up*
# [07:02] <darktrojan> old? historic
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# [07:03] <darktrojan> like my webhost which has python 2.4
# [07:03] <darktrojan> :/
# [07:04] <khuey> dude
# [07:04] <khuey> you're on CentOS
# [07:04] <khuey> everything is old
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# [07:05] <larfdesk> ^ THIS ^
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# [07:07] <ewong> khuey: but this is CentOS 6.0..??
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# [07:10] <nigelb> khuey: hey! got a few minutes to chat about the github commit policy thing? I had some thoughts which I'm not sure is coherent yet.
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# [07:14] <khuey> nigelb: will you still be around in 15 minutes?
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# [07:14] <nigelb> khuey: yep!
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# [07:14] <khuey> ok, I'll ping you when I get back
# [07:14] <nigelb> cool
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# [07:15] <Unfocused> you should move to NZ to get better interne... oh
# [07:15] <darktrojan> hah
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# [07:22] * darktrojan is disappointed that more people point others to about:config to turn off the new tab page rather than clicking a button
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# [07:23] <Havvy> o.0
# [07:23] <derf> about:config has good discovery and good generalizability.
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# [07:24] <darktrojan> there's a button
# [07:24] <@bz> heh
# [07:24] <derf> Yeah, but nobody expects there to be a button.
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# [07:24] <@bz> also about:config has good rates of lead to foot delivery
# [07:25] <derf> And they _know_ the value is in about:config somewhere.
# [07:25] <darktrojan> clearly people are so disgusted with it they don't look long enough to see this
# [07:25] <@bz> and last but not least about:config can be used to turn the thing off
# [07:25] <@bz> whereas the button can't
# [07:25] <@bz> fwiw
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# [07:25] <@bz> (for my purposes; perhaps not for those of the other people trying to turn this off)
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# [07:26] <darktrojan> it needs to be in the preferences window/tab really
# [07:26] <philor> Thread 202 (crashed)
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# [07:28] <khuey> nigelb: ping/pong/whatever this is
# [07:28] <darktrojan> pung
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# [07:29] <khuey> nah, I'm American
# [07:29] <khuey> I don't like the letter u
# [07:29] <darktrojan> png
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# [07:30] <@dolske> hahaha
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# [07:30] <@dolske> darktrojan++ for blog post
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# [07:30] <darktrojan> is it cos I included a meme?
# [07:30] <darktrojan> (always include a meme)
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# [07:31] <@dolske> (or cat)
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# [07:33] <nigelb> khuey: hey, sorry, internet went down briefly.
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# [07:34] <khuey> no worries
# [07:34] <nigelb> khuey: anyway, I had two thoughts. One, is split the repos in github.com/mozilla into modules like webdev, automation, b2g, and have peers and owners like our current procedure.
# [07:34] <nigelb> But that adds more procedural overhead as gavin said in the bug.
# [07:35] <glandium> is spdy known to cause problems? I have an iceweasel reporting problems connecting to google with 13
# [07:36] <nigelb> Two, is when someone who hasn't submitted the committers agreement requests commit acess for the first time, have them file a bug requesting access and sending across the signed agreement. Once the agreement is in, then every other commit access request can be dealt with as is done these days. Ping an org owner.
# [07:36] <glandium> s/iceweasel/iceweasel user/
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# [07:36] <khuey> nigelb: what does commit access even mean on github?
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# [07:37] * khuey hasn't actually used it for anything serious ...
# [07:37] <nigelb> khuey: access to directly push to a repo on github.com/mozilla.
# [07:37] <khuey> as opposed to going through a pull request?
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# [07:37] <nigelb> Yep
# [07:37] <khuey> ok
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# [07:38] <nigelb> Does that sound reasonable/sensible?
# [07:38] <khuey> more or less
# [07:38] <darktrojan> nigelb, bug number?
# [07:38] <nigelb> bug 760153
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# [07:38] <khuey> nigelb: so there's two things
# [07:39] <khuey> one is that we have to hammer this into the existing commit access policy somehow
# [07:39] <khuey> and two is that we need to define modules for all this stuff
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# [07:39] <nigelb> Then I guess we have to go with 1.
# [07:39] <nigelb> Defining modules and owners and peers.
# [07:39] <@dolske> nsILocalFile / Found 676 matching lines in 284 files
# [07:39] <@dolske> half-way there! :D
# [07:40] <khuey> well, we need to do both
# [07:40] <khuey> (1) isn't hard, I don't think
# [07:40] <khuey> once (2) is done
# [07:40] <nigelb> true
# [07:40] <nigelb> well, then I'll add a summary of our conversation into the bug.
# [07:41] <khuey> since github supports per-repo permissions, it's easier
# [07:41] <khuey> our hg setup doesn't
# [07:41] <khuey> so anyone can push to anything
# [07:41] <nigelb> ah
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# [07:41] <khuey> which is why the walls are higher
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# [07:41] <nigelb> github, we have clear defined permissions.
# [07:41] <khuey> right
# [07:41] <khuey> so yeah, summarize this in the bug
# [07:41] <khuey> and I'll write up a strawman proposal tomorrow
# [07:41] <nigelb> Will do! Thanks for the time :)
# [07:41] <khuey> and then we can go from there
# [07:41] <nigelb> okay
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# [07:43] <darktrojan> dolske, uhh yeah
# [07:43] <darktrojan> at least I can get rid of the others bit by bit
# [07:43] <cjones> bz, ping
# [07:43] <@dolske> darktrojan: the real question is if you can get rid of them faster than they're re-added. :D
# [07:44] <darktrojan> hah
# [07:44] <khuey> hmm
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# [07:44] <darktrojan> dolske, thus blog post
# [07:44] <khuey> there's a zdnet link on firefox.com.cn that leads to a firefox *7* download
# [07:44] <@dolske> as if people read blogs
# [07:44] * @dolske goes back to writing blog post
# [07:44] <darktrojan> hopefully reviewers can use the clue bat
# [07:44] <khuey> and one on zol.com.cn that is a firefox 11 download
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# [07:47] * darktrojan isn't sure what the rules about reviews are on github stuff
# [07:47] <nigelb> darktrojan: what do you mean?
# [07:48] <darktrojan> well if I push to m-c I need r+
# [07:48] <nigelb> Most of the time we work in a branch, request review, and then check it in. But it's less stricter than m-c on needing r+
# [07:48] <darktrojan> if I send a pull request to zamboni I guess someone has to accept it before it lands, but
# [07:49] <nigelb> Depends on repo to repo.
# [07:49] <nigelb> Like, socorro team uses a pull request for every commit. And there's a conversation and review.
# [07:49] <khuey> well the firefox code is a bit different than our other repos
# [07:49] <khuey> anything that gets checked into m-c gets signed and shipped to a hundred thousand users with no human intervention ;-)
# [07:50] <nigelb> ^^ that too :)
# [07:50] <darktrojan> heh
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# [07:50] <darktrojan> ditto the AMO API, sort of
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# [07:50] <nigelb> ditto socorro.
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# [07:50] <nigelb> Firefox crashes go there!
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# [07:50] <darktrojan> it's probably just that I am new to working on it, I guess
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# [07:51] <KWierso> SDK does both pull requests and bugzilla bugs, for whatever that's worth. we don't have explicit r+ hooks and stuff like that, but it isn't supposed to land until someone on the team with approvalness looks at it somewhere
# [07:51] <darktrojan> (also being new to git makes it a PITA)
# [07:51] <Ameya> what could be better way to store "AString" of getBrowserState().
# [07:52] <Ameya> I need to store it till PM session ends...
# [07:52] <nigelb> darktrojan: heh. After you like git, it will be all unicorns and ponies ;-)
# [07:52] <darktrojan> that could take a while
# [07:52] <Ameya> Unfocused: Any idea..I mean does file seem ok..?
# [07:52] <darktrojan> I still have to remember not to type hg at the command line
# [07:53] <KWierso> darktrojan: it was pretty easy for me, though I came to the SDK team from doing stuff mostly in svn, so git was like a godsend to me ;)
# [07:53] <darktrojan> hah
# [07:53] <nigelb> darktrojan: I kept doing git status in bzr.
# [07:53] <darktrojan> svn :(
# [07:54] <nigelb> someone should invent someting like vcs status. That's vcs agonistic.
# [07:54] <nigelb> And just use the current vcs :P
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# [07:55] <Ameya> anyone..?
# [07:55] <Ameya> what could be better way to store "AString" of getBrowserState().
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# [08:24] <jwir3> Ameya: What are you writing in? JS?
# [08:26] <jwir3> Ameya: Could you use something like AutoRestore: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/AutoRestore.h
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# [08:32] <Ameya> jwir3: yes in JS
# [08:32] <jwir3> Ameya: Ah, I'm sorry then I don't know if I can be of help. More of a C++ dev than a JS dev :|
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# [08:32] <Ameya> Hmm...
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# [08:33] <Ameya> I mean I have to store browser state till the end of private mode..so that i can restore it back.
# [08:34] <Ameya> jwir3: So is storing getbrowser() in file is efficient ..?
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# [08:35] <jwir3> Ameya: Well, probably not as efficient as keeping it in memory...
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# [08:36] <jwir3> Ameya: Although, when talking about private mode browsing, it's possible that this type of thing might be explicitly unwanted (since the user wants to be in private mode to begin with)
# [08:37] <Ameya> jwir3: actually I am modifying PM little bit.. where I want to save browser state before entering into private mode...
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# [08:38] <Ameya> I am disabling suspicious add-ons before entering into private mode..
# [08:39] <jwir3> oh
# [08:39] <jwir3> Ameya: Is this a plugin in itself, or will this be part of the core browser?
# [08:39] <Ameya> part of core browser code..
# [08:39] <Ameya> making a patch
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# [08:40] <Ameya> jwir3:to bring disable operation in effect I myself had to restart FF hence default tab restoring does not work in this situation.
# [08:41] <sawrubh> Ameya: have you filed a bug for this patch ? which one is it btw ?
# [08:41] <Ameya> no...once I am done with full implementation I would file it
# [08:42] <jwir3> Ameya: It's probably better to file it now, that way we can kind of work through it with you, and at least the primary PM devs are aware of it.
# [08:42] <jwir3> Ameya: Then they can let you know of any pitfalls in working with that code.
# [08:42] <Ameya> ok...then its fine.
# [08:42] <jwir3> Ameya: What you can do is file the bug with as much detail as you can put into it, then assign it to yourself to let people know you're working on it
# [08:43] <jwir3> Ameya: Then, as you have work-in-progress patches, you can post those, too.
# [08:43] <jwir3> Ameya: And you'd be able to ask this very question on the bug, and receive a better answer than I can give you here. ;)
# [08:44] <Ameya> Ok...Its not a bug.. It is improvement... Ok.. I will file bug now itself...
# [08:44] <jwir3> Ameya: Yeah, we call everything a "bug" - enhancements, regressions, actual bugs, etc...
# [08:44] <Ameya> jwir3: ok
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# [08:44] <Ameya> today itself I will post bug...
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# [08:45] <jwir3> Ameya: Cool. Thanks for taking this on!
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# [08:51] <glandium> does anyone know how to tell osx to use less ram than there is in the machine?
# [08:51] <glandium> (that is, act as if there was less ram)
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# [08:59] <Mavericks> glandium: os x lion
# [08:59] <Mavericks> ?
# [08:59] <glandium> Mavericks: yes
# [08:59] <glandium> (does it make a difference?)
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# [09:01] <Mavericks> glandium: when i googled " how to make os x use less ram " it helped me focus on picking https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3193912?start=0&tstart=0 to read. otherwise not much
# [09:02] <Mavericks> haha 53 pages for that thread well well
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# [09:02] <glandium> Mavericks: that seems focused on apps.
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# [09:03] <Mavericks> glandium: i see
# [09:03] <glandium> i'm pretty sure mach is able to limit the amount of physical memory it takes, the question is how to make it do so
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# [09:04] <JonathanS> Mavericks, OS X is pretty good to handle the memory.
# [09:04] <glazou> bonjour
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# [09:05] <Mavericks> http://www.bresink.de/osx/300321023/Docs-en/pgs/Startup.html talks about 'limit memory size to' option
# [09:05] <Mavericks> glandium:
# [09:05] <Mavericks> JonathanS: ok
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# [09:06] <glandium> Mavericks: oh that's interesting
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# [09:07] <Mavericks> glandium: never mind, it looks like some sort of a evaluation and trial app or soething
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# [09:08] <glandium> Mavericks: the tool exists, but it looks like the newer versions don't have that pane
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# [09:15] <Mavericks> glandium: oic
# [09:16] <glandium> actually, it looks like it is there http://www.bresink.de/Images/TTS2-Full-en.jpg
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# [09:23] <Hughman> I just in installed firefox release and the first runpage and it said welcome to Beta
# [09:23] <glandium> Mavericks: it works
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# [09:24] <glandium> Mavericks: except it indeed is an evaluation software, and it only allows to be run 5 times
# [09:26] <sawrubh> ttaubert: ping
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# [09:29] <vikash> Simple #CSS3 transitions on stick figures http://thimbletest.org/p/dy0
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# [09:30] <vikash> ^ some might say trolling begins :-)
# [09:30] <vikash> sheppy would have said so for sure :D
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# [09:31] <alexdmt> Ms2ger: where are you from ? :)
# [09:31] <Ms2ger> The interwebs
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# [09:32] <alexdmt> hm
# [09:32] <JonathanS> Ms2ger, that is pretty big world
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# [09:33] <Ms2ger> Indeed so
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> bienvenu++
# [09:34] <glandium> Mavericks: fwiw, I found how to do it on the command line: sudo nvram boot-args="maxmem=2048"
# [09:34] <JonathanS> Ms2ger, do you heard about Internet2?
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# [09:35] <scientes_> how about ulimit?
# [09:35] <scientes_> i thought that was portable
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# [09:39] <Ms2ger> "Renomming - blocks a blocker."
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# [10:04] <nigelb> Urgh. On aurora clearing my cache takes a lot of time. is that normal? bugworthy?
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# [10:09] <mimcpher> nigelb: longer than it used to? There's a nontrivial amount of disk I/O to clear the cache
# [10:09] <nigelb> mimcpher: Ah. It could be that. Then.
# [10:10] <nigelb> I'm clearing the entire cache because DNS cache got screwed somehow :/
# [10:11] <KWierso> isn't the cache also split up into dozens+ nested directories to help speed up access to files, but at the cost of increased time iterating through everything to clear it?
# [10:12] <KWierso> but that's not new, I don't think
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# [10:13] <edmorley> it's all main thread too iirc
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# [10:14] <nigelb> yeah, it makes that clear history window be on top of everything else while it's clearing the cache.
# [10:14] <KWierso> oh hey. 3am. we meet again :|
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# [10:15] <darktrojan> so um
# [10:15] <darktrojan> I can't log in to AMO
# [10:15] <darktrojan> just me?
# [10:16] <KWierso> darktrojan: works for me
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# [10:16] <darktrojan> damn
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# [10:16] <KWierso> darktrojan: any error messages?
# [10:17] <AryehGregor> froydnj_, we should never be shipping anything in a release that's exposed to webpages that no one else has implemented, right. That's a recipe for non-interoperability. We can innovate in non-release builds and encourage other engines to copy us (especially WebKit). But we don't want pages that work only in Firefox and no other browser.
# [10:17] <darktrojan> KWierso, did you use browserid or user/pass?
# [10:17] <AryehGregor> So we should put off enabling a feature in release builds until there's at least one other implementation that's known to be roughly interoperable. At that point we can still ship before they do, of course.
# [10:17] <KWierso> darktrojan: user/pass
# [10:17] <KWierso> I don't see the BrowserID button anymore
# [10:18] <darktrojan> neither
# [10:18] <darktrojan> nightly?
# [10:18] <KWierso> yep
# [10:18] * darktrojan wonders if the version bumpbroke it
# [10:18] <KWierso> I'm on 16.0a1
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# [10:21] <darktrojan> oh hey it worked that time
# [10:21] <KWierso> never log out
# [10:21] <KWierso> :P
# [10:23] <AryehGregor> Does "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ" mean anything specific? Could it include a null pointer dereference, or is that something else?
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# [10:27] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, could be, do you have a log?
# [10:27] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, yeah, I figured it out. Missing null check.
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# [10:28] <AryehGregor> I hate C(++). :(
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [10:28] <AryehGregor> Why has there been no satisfactory solution found to the problem of null pointer dereference in like forty years?
# [10:28] <AryehGregor> Well, I guess there has been: don't use C(++).
# [10:28] <Havvy> See: The billion dollar problem.
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# [10:29] <AryehGregor> Except in this case, a non-pointer-based solution would probably also raise some kind of fatal runtime error, since I'm calling a method on null.
# [10:29] <@dolske> stop writing bad code! :P
# [10:30] <AryehGregor> while (!IsBlockNode(blockParent)) { blockParent = blockParent->GetParent(); }
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# [10:30] <AryehGregor> So in, say, PHP or Python, that would be a fatal error too if GetParent() returned null or false or undefined or None or whatever.
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# [10:31] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [10:32] <Ms2ger> I had a patch to clean up the mess around IsBlockNode once
# [10:33] <edmorley> you have patches to clean up most things hoarded in your mq I'm sure :P
# [10:33] <edmorley> ( and good morning :-) )
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Good morning :)
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# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Hope you liked your jubilee :)
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# [10:34] <edmorley> yes thank you :-)
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# [10:35] <Ms2ger> And I thought you'd also like my push ;)
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# [10:36] <edmorley> :-)
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# [10:38] <glazou> it's really a pity it's not possible to restrict a filepicker to a given directory (and subdirs of course)...
# [10:38] <glazou> I could use that right now
# [10:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: you know it's going to get to the (sad) point one day, when you've done so much editor cleanup, you won't be able to mock it any more
# [10:39] <edmorley> or at least if you are still able to, then you'll be the one who's written the bad code... :-)
# [10:39] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
# [10:39] <AryehGregor> Can anyone reproduce the crash in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761861 on latest trunk? I can't.
# [10:39] <Ms2ger> edmorley, on my 700th birthday? :)
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# [10:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger++
# [10:41] <edmorley> heh :-)
# [10:41] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I'd try to, but I pulled a roc
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# [10:41] <Ms2ger> (Hit a fatal assertion in unrelated code)
# [10:41] <AryehGregor> :/
# [10:41] <AryehGregor> Not an editor assertion, I hope?
# [10:41] <Ms2ger> Netwerk
# [10:41] <AryehGregor> Easily fixed, at least?
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# [10:44] <AryehGregor> Hmm, might it be that this crash only affects non-debug builds? I'm not even getting anything printed to the console in my debug build.
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# [10:45] <Ms2ger> Just got it in a debug build
# [10:45] <NeilAway> edmorley: sorry, that was an unrelated ++
# [10:46] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, got it in gdb, fwiw
# [10:46] <AryehGregor> Hmm.
# [10:46] <AryehGregor> What revision?
# [10:46] <Ms2ger> Good question :)
# [10:46] <AryehGregor> I'm at 95861.
# [10:47] <AryehGregor> There are a whole bunch of cleanup patches by you at the top.
# [10:47] <AryehGregor> Maybe one of them fixed it by mistake.
# [10:47] * AryehGregor tests that theory
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> This is a build from yesterday evening with my patches
# [10:47] <AryehGregor> Hmm.
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# [10:48] <AryehGregor> It does happen in the latest nightly, it seems.
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# [10:49] <Ms2ger> I've got http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1656882 leading up to the abort, if that helps
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# [10:50] <AryehGregor> I see where the bug is, I just can't reproduce it.
# [10:50] <AryehGregor> Ugh, bisecting takes a long time!
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# [11:00] <NeilAway> wait, did it really spam "everyone"
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# [11:01] <edmorley> yup
# [11:02] <edmorley> bug 761484
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# [11:02] <edmorley> well and bug 752002
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# [11:02] <edmorley> ninja nick
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# [11:03] <Ms2ger> Hmm, talos spam for the aurora merge?
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> I guess I didn't land anything for 15
# [11:04] <Ms2ger> Either that or my spam filter works
# [11:04] <lahabana> hi all do you know what's special on the first reflow that would ruin my baseline (but only in the first reflow)
# [11:04] <ewong> Ms2ger: engine?
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> ewong, that works, I guess
# [11:05] <Mavericks> glandium: interesting.
# [11:05] <NeilAway> ewong++
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# [11:05] <ewong> ;)
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# [11:06] <AryehGregor> Of course -- doing "hg qnew" and hitting Ctrl-C right away doesn't cleanly abort. Instead, it creates a patch file in .hg/patches that contains only a header and isn't added to the series file, so qseries shows nothing and you have to delete it by hand to create a new patch by that name.
# [11:06] <AryehGregor> SIGH.
# [11:06] <AryehGregor> Why does anyone use hg again?
# [11:07] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: because most of are users run Windows
# [11:07] <NeilAway> *our
# [11:08] <AryehGregor> . . . and?
# [11:08] <AryehGregor> git works on Windows these days, or so I've heard it claimed.
# [11:09] <Ms2ger> You got away with just removing the patch file?
# [11:09] <Ms2ger> I've bricked repositories worse with ctrl-c on mq commands :)
# [11:11] <AryehGregor> Why are you such an hg fanboy, then?
# [11:11] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: well, I've heard the "these days" claim, but I can't really claim it to be true back when we switched away from cvs
# [11:11] <AryehGregor> Yeah, that's probably accurate.
# [11:11] <NeilAway> also, mq sucks
# [11:12] <NeilAway> I solve the problem by only using it when all else fails
# [11:12] <NeilAway> mind you, I managed to slightly break a repo using transplant
# [11:12] <ewong> go back to using rcs.. ;P
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# [11:12] <ewong> er cvs
# [11:13] <Ms2ger> I'm not an hg fanboy, I just hate git :)
# [11:13] <Ms2ger> And brz, cvs, rcs, and svn
# [11:13] <ewong> git is painful
# [11:14] <AryehGregor> git is scary.
# [11:14] <AryehGregor> But works pretty well once you know it well enough.
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# [11:16] <ewong> yes.. git is scary..
# [11:18] <ewong> just wish just one VCS is used throughout the whole Mozilla..
# [11:18] <ewong> preferably one that doesn't include the following {brz, cvs, rcs, svn}
# [11:18] <ewong> oh... forgot.. fossil
# [11:19] <AryehGregor> Now NS_ASSERTION isn't printing out stack traces locally.
# [11:19] <AryehGregor> The world loves me today.
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# [11:31] <gaston> anyone remembers where credits.html is versionned ? i've looked in build/webtools/mozilla.org on mxr but didnt found it there
# [11:31] <gaston> i know it's in svn 'somewhere'
# [11:31] <AryehGregor> Is there really no convenient way to find out what revision a given nightly is built from?
# [11:31] <AryehGregor> Like, in Help->About or anything?
# [11:32] <gaston> AryehGregor: about:buildconfig does ithink
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# [11:32] <AryehGregor> Ah, it's hidden there: 95065. Thanks.
# [11:34] <darktrojan> gaston, you mean about:credits ? http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.org/trunk/credits/index.html?view=log
# [11:36] <gaston> aaah
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# [11:36] <gaston> yeah finally found it too :)
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# [11:40] <gaston> glandium: do you know what part of the build adds RPATH pointing to where the libs gets installed in firefox ? there's no similar RPATH in tb, and since 13.0 this is causing me startup issues..
# [11:41] <glandium> gaston: there is no rpath in firefox
# [11:41] <gaston> objdump -p /usr/local/lib/firefox-13.0/libxpcom.so.32.0 | grep RPATH -> RPATH /usr/local/lib/firefox-13.0
# [11:42] <gaston> i see that linking xpcom theres -Wl,-rpath-link but it points to dist/bin and dist/lib
# [11:42] <glandium> gaston: that's definitely not something we set on linux
# [11:42] <gaston> that really puzzles me..
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# [11:42] <glandium> gaston: so that either comes from openbsd configure.in path, or from your mozconfig
# [11:43] <gaston> MOZ_FIX_LINK_PATHS='-Wl,-rpath-link,$(LIBXUL_DIST)/bin -Wl,-rpath-link,$(prefix)/lib'
# [11:43] <@roc> Ms2ger: file it!
# [11:43] <gaston> that's default for all platforms in configure.in
# [11:43] <glandium> gaston: rpath-link doesn't add an rpath
# [11:44] <Ms2ger> roc, I can't reproduce it
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# [11:45] <gaston> maybe -R/-rpath somewhere then...
# [11:46] <gaston> indeed libxpcom.so from one of my nightlies doesnt have RPATH, so that's something i added in the port..
# [11:47] <gaston> (but the nightly needs LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./firefox to find its libs anyway)
# [11:48] <glandium> gaston: not on linux
# [11:49] <gaston> grml
# [11:49] <glandium> gaston: and not on solaris, for that matter
# [11:49] <Ms2ger> > setTimeout("w('a')", { valueOf: function() { throw 7 } });
# [11:49] <Ms2ger> error: Second argument to setInterval must be a millisecond interval on line 3
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> Argument to what?
# [11:50] <gaston> glandium: yeah i'm used to 'but it works on all other oses!' :)
# [11:50] <gaston> hmm
# [11:50] <gaston> 2420 if test "$LIBRUNPATH"; then
# [11:50] <gaston> 2421 >---DSO_LDOPTS="-R$LIBRUNPATH $DSO_LDOPTS"
# [11:50] <gaston> 2422 fi
# [11:51] <glandium> gaston: what does dependentlibs.list contain?
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# [11:51] <gaston> on a nightly where LD_LIBRARY_PATH is needed you mean ? or on tb 13 ?
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# [11:52] <glandium> gaston: on both
# [11:52] <gaston> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1656912
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# [11:52] <glandium> gaston: are the libs really named that way?
# [11:53] <gaston> yes of course :)
# [11:53] <glandium> (since libxpcom is .32.0, are they really all .1.0 ?)
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# [11:53] <gaston> xpcom is 32.0 is firefox 13 port
# [11:53] <gaston> in the nightlies built outside the portstree it defaults to 1.0
# [11:54] <glandium> gaston: well, maybe openbsd's ld.so is just full of sh*t ;)
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# [11:54] <gaston> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1656915
# [11:55] <gaston> tell me something new..
# [11:56] <glandium> gaston: where are nspr and nss?
# [11:56] <gaston> thing is, 'firefox' from 13.0 port starts fine, 'thunderbird' or 'firefox' from nightly package says it cant find its libs (XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/landry/firefox/libxpcom.so.1.0)
# [11:56] <gaston> nspr and nss are in the default search path (usr/local/lib)
# [11:58] <glandium> gaston: what does ldd /home/landry/firefox/libxpcom.so.1.0 say?
# [11:58] <gaston> 'Cannot load specified object' :)
# [11:58] <glandium> gaston: readelf -d /home/landry/firefox/libxpcom.so.1.0 ?
# [11:58] <gaston> (if i add LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. it finds all its libs)
# [11:59] <gaston> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1656916
# [12:00] <gaston> what puzzles me more is if i ktrace/kdump firefox startup, it correctly finds and opens all libs (including xul.so/xpcom.so)
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# [12:02] <glandium> gaston: yeah, then i think it's your ld.so that sucks
# [12:02] <gaston> that i already knew
# [12:02] <lahabana> http://lahab.sandbox.nodester.com/searchbar.png hey do you think the fact that the image of the searchbar is so far due by a wrong overflow or a wrong sizing
# [12:03] <glandium> gaston: namely, it would suggest that if you dlopen("liba") and dlopen("libb"), where libb depends on liba, it tries to load liba from somewhere else instead of using the loaded one
# [12:03] <gaston> what annoys me know is that tb 13 doesnt start while 12 starts fine
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# [12:03] <lahabana> (this happens when I reduce the size of my window)
# [12:03] <glandium> gaston: that's because tb did the switch to use the startup stuff used in ff since (iirc) 6 or 7
# [12:04] <gaston> bug # ?
# [12:04] <lahabana> gaston: me?
# [12:04] <gaston> but i'll see if there was a specific hack for ff around that time
# [12:04] <gaston> lahabana: no, sorry :)
# [12:04] <lahabana> ok thx
# [12:04] <glandium> gaston: 668869
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# [12:05] <gaston> the startup stuff was replacing 'foo' script by 'foo' binary right ?
# [12:05] <glandium> gaston: the ff hack is you using an rpath
# [12:05] <gaston> maybe, but i dont see where it's applied in my builds
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# [12:06] <glandium> gaston: you must have something setting LIBRUNPATH
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# [12:06] <glandium> in the port
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# [12:08] <gaston> i dont see -R/-rpath in the fx 12 or 13 build logs, only rpath-link
# [12:09] <gaston> and LIBRUNPATH isnt set
# [12:09] <nemo> http://www.jeshua.me/blog/Spectrascade#comment3 errors in FF15 on 2 linux machines, ATI and nVidia. Demo was supposedly cross browser. File bug?
# [12:10] <gaston> AHA!
# [12:10] <gaston> -Wl,-rpath,'/usr/local/lib/firefox-12.0'
# [12:10] <gaston> indeed, it was well hidden
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# [12:11] <gaston> now to find out where it's added..
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# [12:11] <gaston> grrrrr
# [12:12] <gaston> patches/patch-config_rules_mk:+DSO_LDOPTS += -Wl,-rpath,'$(installdir)'
# [12:12] <gaston> patches/patch-config_rules_mk:+OS_LDFLAGS += -Wl,-rpath,'$(installdir)'
# [12:12] <gaston> i hate that legacy added ages ago by the previous maintainers without comments
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# [12:13] <gaston> glandium: can you explain me how a 'regular' linker would work in that case to go from firefox binary to ./libxul.so ? or . is in the default search path ?
# [12:13] <darktrojan> NeilAway, how do I do that then
# [12:14] <NeilAway> darktrojan: ???
# [12:14] <@roc> nemo: file a bug I think
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# [12:14] <glandium> gaston: all the libraries in dependentlibs.list are dlopen()ed
# [12:14] <darktrojan> NeilAway, build against libxul
# [12:14] <gaston> but from which 'path' ?
# [12:15] <glandium> gaston: they are dlopen()ed with a full path
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# [12:15] <gaston> and how is that full path found ? dirname(ffx's binary path) ?
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# [12:15] <glandium> gaston: basically, yes
# [12:16] <gaston> guess i'll reread browser/app/nsBrowserApp.cpp..
# [12:16] <glandium> gaston: check xpcom/glue/standalone/nsGlueLinkingDlopen.cpp
# [12:17] <glandium> gaston: basically, firefox computes the libxpcom path from the executable in nsBrowserApp.cpp, and then all libs path are derived from libxpcom's path
# [12:17] <glandium> gaston: so, if the error message gives the right path for libxpcom, it takes the libs from the right path
# [12:18] <gaston> yeah it gives the correct path
# [12:18] <gaston> so there might be a fluke after loading libxpcom
# [12:18] <gaston> or it fails to dlopen it because it cant find the libs libxpcom itself depends on
# [12:18] <glandium> the likely fluke is ld.so doing what i said earlier
# [12:18] <NeilAway> darktrojan: --with-libxul-sdk
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# [12:19] <gaston> okay
# [12:19] <gaston> i think i understand a bit better now, thanks :)
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# [12:26] <alexdmt> roc: ping
# [12:27] <@roc> howdy
# [12:27] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761297 gives me a new error: /mnt/extra/checkouts/mozilla-central/editor/libeditor/base/DeleteRangeTxn.cpp:67:12: error: variable result set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
# [12:27] <AryehGregor> (how did that pass tbpl?)
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# [12:27] <AryehGregor> (when I've done things like that, I get bustage on all opt builds)
# [12:28] <alexdmt> hi roc
# [12:29] <alexdmt> I've got a question about the reflow process in nsTextControlFrame (bug #716875 you commented on our attachment)
# [12:30] <Ms2ger> Gah
# [12:30] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, even for unused-but-set-variable? I think the buildbots are using too old a compiler to catch that
# [12:31] <alexdmt> during the Reflow() I set "aDesiredSize.ascent" so that I include the centered font baseline plus the top padding and border
# [12:31] <AryehGregor> Oh, figures. Feh.
# [12:31] <darktrojan> NeilAway, any other information you can give me?
# [12:31] <Ameya> I get abort: requirement 'dotencode' not supported! on "hg export qtip > ~/nameOfPatchFile.patch"
# [12:31] <AryehGregor> Then why is it set to be fatal if fatal errors are enabled?
# [12:31] <alexdmt> roc:It works fine in certain cases ; in others it seems to be wrong
# [12:31] <NeilAway> darktrojan: jhorak is your libxul build go-to guy really
# [12:31] <Ms2ger> Because it isn't explicitly excluded
# [12:32] <Ms2ger> I'll push a fix in a moment
# [12:32] <alexdmt> roc:What parameters could I have missed ?
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# [12:32] <glandium> Ms2ger: cheater
# [12:32] <Ms2ger> glandium, mm?
# [12:33] <edmorley> Ms2ger: thank you
# [12:33] <glandium> Ms2ger: you landed 558313 without killing nss :(
# [12:33] <Ms2ger> glandium, pointer to nss?
# [12:33] <jhorak> darktrojan: pm
# [12:34] <@roc> alexdmt: you probably shouldn't call GetClientRect
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# [12:34] <glandium> Ms2ger: wtf, it's not there anymore O_o
# [12:35] <@roc> instead of using clientRect.y, just use aReflowState.mComputedBorderPadding.top
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# [12:35] <Ms2ger> glandium, I accept your apology ;)
# [12:35] <@roc> that might help
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# [12:36] <Yoric> My local builds (which have --enable-debug) do not show the same results as the TryServer debug builds.
# [12:36] <@roc> GetClientRect might not return up-to-date values until reflow has finished
# [12:36] <Yoric> Actually, they don't seem to execute #ifdef DEBUG code at all.
# [12:36] <@roc> so use the values already computed for you
# [12:36] <Yoric> Am I forgetting something?
# [12:36] <alexdmt> roc: hm well this morning I removed that clientRect.y and just kept mComputedBorderPadding.top
# [12:36] <@roc> ah
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# [12:37] <@roc> then, narrow down the testcase that is wrong
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# [12:37] <AryehGregor> Wow, there is something seriously screwed up with the URL bar in a compile of latest trunk.
# [12:37] <AryehGregor> aryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformancetest/splitruntest.html?forecolorsoftware.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/#software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/#software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/#www-archive.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/www-archive.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/www-archive.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/aryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformancetest/splitruntest.html?forecoloraryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformance
# [12:37] <AryehGregor> test/splitruntest.html?forecoloraryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformancetest/splitruntest.html?forecolorhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=630374aryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformancetest/splitruntest.html?forecoloraryeh.name/tmp/editing/conformancetest/splitruntest.html?forecolorhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=630374https://bug761861.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=630374about:newtab
# [12:37] <@roc> and then I think you'll have to debug it
# [12:37] <gaston> glandium: one of our ld.so hackers suggests me to use the __GLIBC__ codepath in xpcom/glue/standalone/nsGlueLinkingDlopen.cpp#212
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# [12:37] <AryehGregor> That's what the URL bar contains when I try making a new tab.
# [12:37] <AryehGregor> . . .
# [12:38] <alexdmt> roc: and when I compare the ascent values from both original mozilla-central and my patch, I got the wrong value for the first reflow and the good one for all the other reflows
# [12:38] <AryehGregor> All navigation using the URL bar seems broken for me.
# [12:38] <glandium> Ms2ger: it was removed in bug 709575. so, Ms2ger++
# [12:38] <@roc> hmm
# [12:38] <alexdmt> roc: hm ok I'll try
# [12:38] <Ms2ger> glandium, (I did look around for the nss copy and didn't see it :))
# [12:39] <AryehGregor> Oh, wait.
# [12:39] <AryehGregor> That was stupid of me.
# [12:39] <AryehGregor> Never mind, it's my fault.
# [12:39] <glandium> gaston: not convinced it would make a difference
# [12:39] <Ms2ger> Phew
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# [12:39] * AryehGregor forgot the slight detail that NS_ASSERTION's argument isn't actually compiled in opt builds :)
# [12:39] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what's your fix going to look like?
# [12:39] <AryehGregor> Tell me when you have a patch.
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# [12:39] <glandium> gaston: you should do some stepping in nsGlueLinkingDlopen.cpp and see where it actually fails
# [12:40] <@roc> Ms2ger: how close are you to having converted editor entirely away from nsIDOM*?
# [12:40] <gaston> yes, that's the next step
# [12:40] <Ms2ger> roc, bwahahahahahahaha
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# [12:40] <gaston> glandium: 'In theory we should be doing the same thing as Linux and Solaris'
# [12:40] <@roc> bhwahahahahahaha?
# [12:40] <gaston> i'll see that
# [12:40] <AryehGregor> roc, $ grep -RI nsIDOMNode editor/ | wc -l
# [12:40] <AryehGregor> 2182
# [12:40] <Ms2ger> You reckon that will happen in my lifetime?
# [12:40] <AryehGregor> $ grep -RI nsINode editor/ | wc -l
# [12:40] <AryehGregor> 250
# [12:41] <AryehGregor> $ grep -RI nsIContent editor/ | wc -l
# [12:41] <AryehGregor> 508
# [12:41] <AryehGregor> Note: this does not count things like nsIDOMCharacterData or whatever that are used all over the place.
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# [12:42] <AryehGregor> nsIDOMElement: 549, nsIDOMDocument: 133, nsIDOMCharacterData: 122, . . .
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# [12:44] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, pushed the fix to inbound
# [12:44] * AryehGregor wonders why this crash happens only in opt builds anyway
# [12:45] <AryehGregor> Oh, DebugOnly<>, spiffy. How does that work?
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# [12:45] <@roc> It just works
# [12:45] <@roc> DebugOnly<int> foo = SomeExpression()
# [12:45] <Ms2ger> Magic
# [12:45] <AryehGregor> I was wondering about the implementation.
# [12:45] <@roc> NS_ASSERTION(foo, "booyeah");
# [12:46] <@roc> that's easy
# [12:46] <@roc> you can also have DebugOnly<> fields in structs
# [12:46] <heftig> http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/screenshots/webgl.png <-- misrendering in my firefox builds. any idea what could be happening here? mozilla builds work fine
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# [12:46] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Util.h#24
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# [12:47] <glandium> roc: DebugOnly<> fields in structs are likely to make them bigger
# [12:47] <AryehGregor> Oh, so it has an empty destructor and that tricks the compiler?
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# [12:51] <AryehGregor> What happens when they make compilers smarter and they figure out that the destructor is empty? :)
# [12:51] <@roc> AryehGregor: no
# [12:51] <@roc> glandium: never mind, the place I thought I'd used one, I was wrong :-)
# [12:51] <AryehGregor> glandium, why? It's a struct with no members and no virtual methods, right? What takes up space?
# [12:52] <@roc> I believe the minimum sizeof(anything) is 1
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# [12:52] <alexdmt> roc: http://lahab.sandbox.nodester.com/searchbar.png
# [12:52] <glandium> AryehGregor: I don't know why, I haven't checked the C++ lawyerspeak. I just know it does
# [12:52] <alexdmt> roc: here is another problem
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# [12:52] <alexdmt> roc: the magnifying glass is too far from the input
# [12:52] <@roc> indeed
# [12:52] <alexdmt> it seems that the GetMinWidth is too high
# [12:53] <alexdmt> but it currently returns GetPrefWidth
# [12:53] <@roc> I doubt that's it
# [12:53] <alexdmt> hmm
# [12:53] <glandium> AryehGregor: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1656957 compile with g++ -std=c++0x
# [12:53] <glandium> /tmp/test.cc:14:1: error: static assertion failed: FAIL
# [12:54] <alexdmt> could you tell me how the glass is positionned during reflow ?
# [12:54] <@roc> I don't know, it depends on the content structure used by chrome
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# [12:54] <@roc> you'd be best off fixing all the simple bugs you can find using HTML testcases before tackling XUL issues
# [12:54] <alexdmt> roc: ok thank you
# [12:55] <alexdmt> roc: ok
# [12:55] <alexdmt> thank you for your time :)
# [12:55] <@roc> pleasure
# [12:55] <AryehGregor> WTF? document.execCommand("insertParagraph", false, "_") isn't the same as document.execCommand("insertParagraph")?
# [12:55] <AryehGregor> . . .
# [12:55] <@roc> thanks for working o nthis
# [12:55] <alexdmt> pleasure ;)
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# [13:02] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I know some guy who wrote a spec on this... ;)
# [13:02] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, and the implementation too.
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# [13:10] <Ms2ger> edmorley, did you retrigger the rpm?
# [13:11] <edmorley> Ms2ger: nope
# [13:11] <Ms2ger> Regardless, that won't help, the code's broken
# [13:11] <edmorley> \o/
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# [13:12] <Ms2ger> Oh, and we merged the brokenness to aurora
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# [13:45] <AryehGregor> Note to self: running mochitests on opt builds is a *lot* faster than non-opt builds. Who'd have thought? :)
# [13:46] <Ms2ger> bholley, you didn't see him mentioned with the new hires? ;)
# [13:46] <nigelb> ... and that was a few weeks back too
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# [13:46] <nigelb> this is what happens when you skip the project meeting :P
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# [13:49] <@roc> this is what happens when you don't hang out on #gfx 24/7
# [13:50] <Ms2ger> bholley, it only looks green because we don't have enough tests? :)
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# [14:00] <AryehGregor> So it turns out bug 748307 broke the behavior of insertParagraph entirely, making it work just like insertText. It got merged to Aurora. Would a patch to revert insertParagraph to its old functionality be likely to be accepted for Aurora, so it can be properly fixed in 16?
# [14:00] <AryehGregor> The patch is probably only a few lines . . .
# [14:00] * AryehGregor tries it out
# [14:02] <AryehGregor> +1 line, -1 line.
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# [14:02] <Ameya> I use windows... I get abort: requirement 'dotencode' not supported! on "hg export qtip > ~/nameOfPatchFile.patch"
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# [14:02] <Ameya> I use mozilla build
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# [14:03] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: regression fixes sound like good aurora material
# [14:03] <AryehGregor> That's what I figured.
# [14:03] <AryehGregor> This is really just a partial backout.
# [14:03] <AryehGregor> So I'll write a backout for Aurora, then file a new bug to fix it properly.
# [14:03] <AryehGregor> (i.e., support the command properly -- which turns out to be nontrivial)
# [14:04] <@smaug> what is Marionette?
# [14:04] <Ms2ger> Another new testing thing
# [14:07] <jcranmer> test framework number ... 8 or so?
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# [14:11] <AutomatedTester> smaug: its the testing framework that will allow us to centralise testing frameworks
# [14:11] <AutomatedTester> well its actually a browser automation framework, not a testing framework
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# [14:19] <AryehGregor> So yay, I spent most of my day fixing two regressions I caused in Firefox 15.
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# [14:22] <gaston> that's still a productive day :)
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# [14:25] <@roc> tbpl isn't working for me :-(
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# [14:28] <edmorley> roc: wfm
# [14:29] <@roc> something's odd because Google searchers aren't working for me either
# [14:31] <nigelb> roc: I think your DNS cache has some issue. restart the browser or try clearing cache.
# [14:31] <nigelb> (I run into this often)
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# [14:32] <@roc> I've never run into this before
# [14:32] <nigelb> Is this Aurora or Nightly?
# [14:32] <@roc> nightly
# [14:32] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: wow
# [14:32] <@roc> ish
# [14:32] <nigelb> My nightly never hits this. aurora always does.
# [14:33] <@smaug> roc: I've seen similar issue
# [14:33] <nigelb> I spent 2 weeks wondering why google searches on aurora didn't work :)
# [14:33] <@smaug> but only with one network connection
# [14:33] <nemo> So...
# [14:33] <@smaug> (the ADSL connection @summer cottage )
# [14:33] <nemo> I know this is old news
# [14:33] <nemo> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/may-browser-usage-firefox-users-still-avoiding-updates/
# [14:33] <AutomatedTester> smaug: it in B2G at the moment. It allows us to automate without relying on Addons
# [14:33] <jesup> Hmmm. Does it try to hit the net, or does the request never leave your machine?
# [14:34] <nigelb> I've never investigated that.
# [14:34] <nigelb> I should look that up next time.
# [14:34] <nemo> I'm just surprised at how large that figure is. Sure a bunch of 'em are 3.5/3.6, that's not surprising. But are really that many 4+ users not updating?
# [14:34] <zzzzz> what's the pref to enable GC logging again ?>
# [14:34] <jesup> wireshark
# [14:34] <jesup> roc: are you hitting it now?
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# [14:35] <jesup> zzzzz: one of the js prefs - it's pretty obvious
# [14:35] <NeilAway> nemo: well, don't forget powerpc mac users
# [14:35] <zzzzz> oh ! was looking for something with gc in it
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# [14:35] * zzzzz looks
# [14:36] <jesup> js blah mem blah log or some such
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# [14:36] <@roc> yes
# [14:37] <jesup> Does your request cause traffic that wireshark captures? (either DNS or http/https)?
# [14:38] <@roc> I don't know
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# [14:38] <@roc> curiously I can visit a lot of sites just fine
# [14:38] <jesup> and what is the symptom? never loads, 404, ?
# [14:38] <@roc> never loads
# [14:38] <zzzzz> jesup: found it - thanks
# [14:38] <jesup> sounds like it might be a poisoned DNS almost
# [14:38] <nigelb> yep, same symptom here.
# [14:39] <jesup> or bugged
# [14:39] <nigelb> and restart / cache delete alway fixes it.
# [14:39] <nemo> NeilAway: those still exist? :)
# [14:39] <nigelb> Usually happens for me when my connection is unstable.
# [14:39] <nigelb> That made me assume poisoned DNS.
# [14:39] <jesup> nigelb: did you file a bug?
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# [14:39] <jesup> roc: can you reach the same url with ping or telnet blah 80?
# [14:39] <nigelb> jesup: I never did.
# [14:40] <jesup> (I assume yes)
# [14:40] <@roc> yes, I can ping
# [14:40] <jesup> nigelb--
# [14:40] <nigelb> :(
# [14:40] <darktrojan> hmm, these symptoms sound familiar
# [14:40] <jesup> ok, that means it's in our browser (as expected)
# [14:41] <darktrojan> not for google though
# [14:41] <nigelb> so, I was told we moved to cache DNS in memory.
# [14:41] <nigelb> That's around the point where Cmd + Shift + R stopped refreshing DNS cache.
# [14:41] <nigelb> and that's around the time these issues started popping up for me.
# [14:41] <glandium> roc: ipv6 day effect ?
# [14:42] <@roc> hmm?
# [14:42] <nigelb> glandium: Definitely not. ipv6 day doesn't mean the website isn't accessibly on ipv4.
# [14:42] <jesup> nigelb: not surprised we did so (though shift-reload should have linked to flush)
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# [14:42] <glandium> nigelb: it can mean many things in between him and google
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# [14:42] <nigelb> Argh. True.
# [14:43] <glandium> nigelb: there are so many ways for things to go wrong with ipv6
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# [14:43] <nigelb> glandium: If a browser restart fixes roc's problem, then it's probably what I ran into.
# [14:43] <glandium> typical case is your machine has an ipv6, resolves ipv6, but can't actually get any response from ipv6
# [14:43] <@roc> I'm not sure if I should restart
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# [14:44] <jesup> roc: you could check what your browser generates by running a quick wireshark trace
# [14:44] <nigelb> roc: alternatively, use a differnt instance of firefox if you have one.
# [14:44] <alexdmt> roc: I solved the ascent problem, it works well now. Thank you a lot !
# [14:44] <nigelb> Like, simultaneously use a different profile.
# [14:44] <jesup> that would tell you if it's IPV6, wrong IP address (busted cache), etc
# [14:44] <glandium> roc: yeah, you could start firefox with a new profile
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# [14:45] <nigelb> jesup: If I were to run into this again, what info would I need to file with?
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# [14:45] <nigelb> Is there a way I can see what DNS entry firefox has for a domain?
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# [14:46] <jesup> Sounds like it *might* be a bug in our DNS cache triggered by some difference in the DNS responses (TTL? etc) which would explain the issue with it appearing on some ISPs and not others
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# [14:47] <jesup> nigelb: I doubt it, but Josh and/or Patrick might be on or on soon
# [14:47] <nigelb> ah, interesting.
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# [14:47] <nigelb> I hit this every day, and I assumed it was a problem on my end :)
# [14:48] <@roc> I think this is the first time this has happened to me, so I doubt I can reproduce
# [14:48] <jesup> nigelb: knowing if it makes a request, and where it makes it to, and where it makes a request to when you do it from another browser/profile
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# [14:49] <@roc> A different profile works fine
# [14:49] <jesup> If they're not the same, it points strongly to a browser DNS cache bug. (Though without the original DNS response it might be hard to figure out what triggered it; in that case run a wireshark capturing DNS packets (maybe with rollover) until the bug happens again
# [14:49] <nigelb> ^ that's what I run into too.
# [14:49] <@smaug> uh, webapps tries to implement all sort of C++-only stuff in JS
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# [14:50] <jesup> roc: if you have/install wireshark, comparing the two fetches would be great bug attachment material :-)
# [14:51] <jesup> wireshark rocks for looking at network packets
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> Yeah, silly people
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# [14:52] <@roc> Firefox has zillions of connections open
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# [14:55] <jesup> Right, but it should try to open a new connection when you hit reload/enter/whatever.
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# [14:56] <jesup> You can filter display for TCP or http opens
# [14:56] <jesup> Though wireshark has enough options (and syntaxes for filters/captures) to be confusing....
# [14:57] <Yoric> Anybody around here familiar with mozStorage -- in particular with AsyncClose?
# [14:57] <Yoric> I am trying to understand why my AsyncClose fails.
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# [15:00] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping on
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# [15:01] <@roc> jesup: how do I get wireshark to display resolved DNS names instead of IP addresses?
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# [15:03] <ttaubert> Yoric: hey
# [15:04] <sawrubh> ttaubert: ping++
# [15:05] <ttaubert> hm?
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# [15:05] <Yoric> ttaubert: I have a question about this thumbnail storage thingy.
# [15:05] <Yoric> browser_thumbnails_bug753755.js
# [15:05] <Yoric> Is there _any_ reason it should pass?
# [15:06] <ttaubert> heh, let me have a look
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# [15:06] <@roc> Wireshark has a billion features and I can't figure out how to get it to do reverse DNS lookups
# [15:06] <sawrubh> ttaubert: Although I'll be going offline soon, I have done some changes, and am currently stuck at a point and would like some of your opinion/advice on it. Should I attach the temporary patch on the bug or email the patch to you so that you get the context
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# [15:06] <froydnj_> darktrojan++
# [15:07] <darktrojan> good morning
# [15:07] <darktrojan> what've I done
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# [15:07] <ttaubert> sawrubh: I think attaching it to the bug and asking there is good. there it's public and in context
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# [15:08] <sawrubh> ok, I'll then post the patch there and ask it on the bug itself. Thanks
# [15:08] <ttaubert> Yoric: did you have a look at the bug belonging to the test?
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# [15:08] <Yoric> ttaubert: Nope.
# [15:08] <froydnj_> darktrojan: the nsI{,Local}File goo
# [15:08] <darktrojan> oh that small thing, it was nothing
# [15:09] <ttaubert> Yoric: so this bug fixes that just retrieving the file creates the patch implicitly. for people that turned off thumbnails at all this created empty folders
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# [15:09] <jesup> roc: 1 sec
# [15:09] <ttaubert> s/the patch/the path
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# [15:09] <Yoric> ttaubert: Mmmhhh...
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# [15:10] <Yoric> ttaubert: Something weird here. I don't have any option in PageThumbsStorage.getFileForURL
# [15:10] <ttaubert> Yoric: if you're really changing how the storage works this test might become obsolete?
# [15:10] * Yoric will double-check.
# [15:10] <Yoric> Well, yes, probably.
# [15:10] <Yoric> Good point, actually.
# [15:10] <ttaubert> :)
# [15:10] <@roc> jesup: never mind. I thought I'd be able to resolve DNS offline but I guess it can't do that. It works in a new capture
# [15:10] <darktrojan> Yoric, you're changing the thumbnail storage?
# [15:10] <darktrojan> to what?
# [15:11] <ttaubert> to being async
# [15:11] <darktrojan> oh
# [15:11] <darktrojan> I thought you meant some mystical way of not using files
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# [15:12] <Yoric> ttaubert: So I should probably create the directory lazily.
# [15:12] <Unfocused> we should use the cloud
# [15:12] <froydnj_> the cloud! the cloud!
# [15:12] <mounir> jlebar|sleep: don't pretend you are sleeping ;)
# [15:12] <Unfocused> :)
# [15:12] <jlebar|sleep> mounir, I just got up! :)
# [15:13] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes
# [15:13] <darktrojan> clouds are too far away, it'll lag
# [15:13] <ttaubert> darktrojan: well, that's not possible, unfortunately
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# [15:13] <mounir> jlebar|sleep: did you CC'd me on that OOP browser bug for any action or for my information?
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# [15:13] <Yoric> ttaubert: Which means that I really should get started on adding mkdir to OS.File :)
# [15:13] <jlebar|sleep> mounir, Well, I thought it was kind of like the key events bug you did.
# [15:14] <jlebar|sleep> mounir, Thought you might have insight.
# [15:14] <jesup> roc: View->Name Resolution->Network layer I think
# [15:14] <ttaubert> Yoric: glad you now have a reason to :)
# [15:14] <Yoric> Hum.
# [15:14] <Yoric> Or I can be lazy :)
# [15:14] <jesup> roc: aha
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# [15:14] <glandium> roc: what works is to save the capture and reload it once you have enabled name resolution
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# [15:15] <jesup> I'm always discovering new amusements in wireshark (or used to when I lived in it much of the time)
# [15:15] <Yoric> ttaubert: What is the reason to have several subdirectories, btw?
# [15:15] <mounir> jlebar|sleep: will check
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# [15:16] <mounir> jlebar|sleep: but never assume I might have insight, you will be disappointed
# [15:16] <mounir> ;)
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# [15:18] <ttaubert> Yoric: that's behavior I copied from the cache service. some file systems tend to get slow if there are too many files in one directory afaik. and using md5 to create the file names ensure a good distribution amongst those directories
# [15:18] <ttaubert> in retrospect I'm not sure that's completely necessary. we probably don't want to have so many thumbnails
# [15:19] <@roc> it looks like I get an HTTP 302 redirect and the browser never follows the redirect
# [15:19] <jimm> does anyone know if there's a pref that controls whether the browser caches front end xul content and script in the profile?
# [15:19] <Yoric> ttaubert: I thought we only had something like 9 thumbnails?
# [15:20] <ttaubert> Yoric: yeah, not exactly but maybe something like 9 + #{number of tabs} (panorama)
# [15:20] <ttaubert> Yoric: so, maybe you could remove all this overhead
# [15:20] <Yoric> So, glandium has about 2009 and everybody else has about 50 :)
# [15:21] <ttaubert> we're working on a fix for that :/
# [15:21] <Yoric> For glandium?
# [15:21] <jesup> roc: interesting. That's a useful trace. If you manually type in the redirect address, does it go there?
# [15:21] <bbondy> ejpbruel: I'll get through both patches for you today btw
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# [15:22] <ejpbruel> bbondy: thanks! i have a day off today, but if theres anything wrong with them still, ill try to file a new patch today
# [15:22] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes, a fix for glandium, only. no, actually to not keep that many thumbnails :)
# [15:22] <bbondy> sounds good
# [15:22] <glandium> Yoric: 2387 + 9 ;)
# [15:22] <Yoric> :)
# [15:22] <@roc> jesup: no
# [15:23] <Unfocused> jimm: nglayout.debug.disable_xul_cache
# [15:24] <darktrojan> Unfocused, how should I claim to have tested this overflow bug for a-aurora?
# [15:24] <jimm> Unfocused: do you know if that controls caching of script files like browser.js?
# [15:24] <Unfocused> darktrojan: manual + qa pass
# [15:25] <Unfocused> jimm: can't remember :\
# [15:25] <ttaubert> Yoric: so... feel free to remove all these sub-directories
# [15:25] <jimm> thx, I'll test and see.
# [15:25] <ttaubert> Yoric: if not we could do this in a follow-up patch. but I figured it might ease things for you
# [15:25] <AryehGregor> Why does printf("%p") not like pointers of type other than void*? Can't any pointer be used for void*?
# [15:25] <darktrojan> that'll do
# [15:26] <jesup> roc: ok. so it's not the redirect processing. I assume any reference to the site in the 302 doesn't cause network traffic.
# [15:27] <Yoric> ttaubert: Thanks.
# [15:28] <@roc> yeah
# [15:28] <@roc> it just stops
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# [15:28] <jesup> Probably a bad DNS cache entry for that site. I cna't think of a lot else to capture here; you could leave the browser running until a netwerk person is around just in case they know something to check - up to you and how painful it is to leave the profile locked.
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# [15:29] <jesup> My guess is there's no way to check more, unless there's something that triggers a DNS flush
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# [15:29] <jesup> shift-reload *should*, IMHO, but probably doesn't
# [15:29] <jimm> Unfocused: it does
# [15:30] <jesup> roc: probably bug-filing time. CC nigel (and me, because my interest is piqued)
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# [15:31] <nigelb> awesome.
# [15:31] <@roc> I don't think it's a bad DNS cache entry since I have actually seen it do a DNS lookup for www.google.com in Wireshark
# [15:31] <jesup> roc: smaug has seen it too, maybe cc him
# [15:32] <nigelb> where does the 302 lead to?
# [15:32] <jesup> roc: was the 302 also to www.google.com?
# [15:32] <Unfocused> jimm: good to know (again)
# [15:32] <@roc> yes
# [15:33] <jesup> Ah. wait a sec - so, some google fetches result in 302, and others result in no network traffic outgoing (such as the URL in the 302)?
# [15:34] <jesup> that's really weird
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# [15:34] <jesup> Any odd extensions that could be mucking the request? (shot in dark)
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# [15:35] <jesup> like antivirus things
# [15:35] <khuey> you know what's awkward?
# [15:35] <khuey> when someone leaves Mozilla to go work at a stealth startup
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# [15:35] <khuey> and then they announce what they're doing
# [15:35] <khuey> and you wonder "that person was smart, why did they go join these fools?"
# [15:35] <@roc> hmm, trying to open https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ opens 14 TLS connections to generic.zlb.phx.mozilla.net
# [15:36] <glandium> roc: you could attach a debugger to your weird firefox, and enable nspr logging for all log modules
# [15:36] <@roc> jesup: no
# [15:36] <jesup> khuey: only awkward if you talk to them. And almost as awkward if it's not stealth
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# [15:37] <jesup> glandium++ (does nspr logging constantly check the env var? or are you referring to calling an enable entrypoint?)
# [15:38] <glandium> jesup: i'm referring to trying to find the prlogging structures and enabling by hand :-p
# [15:38] <darktrojan> khuey, not the startup buying tons of gTLDs?
# [15:38] <khuey> darktrojan: haven't heard of that one
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# [15:38] <glandium> jesup: although there's maybe a way to trigger env var parsing
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# [15:39] <darktrojan> khuey, http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/05/2122255/startup-applies-for-307-gtlds
# [15:39] <darktrojan> had some great comments
# [15:40] <froydnj_> they want to domain-nate the search space
# [15:40] <@roc> jesup: navigating to http://google.com always successfully loads a redirect to https://www.google.com. navigating to https://www.google.com doesn't generate any network traffic apart from a DNS request sometimes
# [15:40] <glandium> jesup: mmmm not sure this would work very well. But looking for the logModules variable from prlog.c should do
# [15:40] <khuey> darktrojan: mmm, fun
# [15:40] <darktrojan> froydnj_, ew
# [15:40] <@roc> too bad Wireshark has never heard of multiple selection
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# [15:41] <khuey> darktrojan: we should get together with the other browsers and make our software not go to these new TLDs
# [15:41] <khuey> that would kill this insanity pretty quick
# [15:41] <darktrojan> :D
# [15:42] <darktrojan> IE11 would be the first browser to support the new TLDs by default though
# [15:42] <darktrojan> :(
# [15:42] <bhearsum> the new TLDs need special browser support?
# [15:42] <bhearsum> isn't that a DNS concern, not a browser one?
# [15:42] <khuey> that's ok, IE 11 wil lbe on Windows 9, which will have approximately 0% usage
# [15:42] <darktrojan> oh yeah
# [15:43] <@roc> I like this comment that typing the name of your destination site into a Google search box is safer than typing into the URL bar, since if you make a typo you'll still reach the right destination instead of some typo-squatting scammer
# [15:43] <khuey> bhearsum: pretenting the new TLDs don't exist needs special browser support
# [15:43] <darktrojan> details bhearsum
# [15:43] <khuey> *pretending
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# [15:43] <bhearsum> i see
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# [15:45] <glandium> khuey: while you're here, do you know when you can take a look to the last (small) part of 580408?
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# [15:46] <khuey> glandium: it's first on my list today
# [15:46] <jesup> roc: Hmmm. SPDY perhaps? can you try disabling SPDY in config and retest?
# [15:46] <glandium> khuey: \o/
# [15:47] <jesup> roc: but that wouldn't explain TBPL (I assume)
# [15:47] <@roc> yes
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# [15:48] <jesup> khuey: am I on your list today? :-) Is there a better bribe than oreos?
# [15:48] <khuey> it's further down the list
# [15:48] <khuey> we'll see how far I get
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# [15:49] <jesup> khuey: extensions can probably kill the new extensions too :-)
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# [15:49] <jesup> s/new extensions/new tlds/
# [15:50] <jesup> no breakfast yet
# [15:50] <jesup> khuey: Thanks
# [15:50] <bhearsum> jesup: maple cream cookies work well
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# [15:50] <khuey> ha
# [15:50] <khuey> I am running low on those
# [15:51] <jesup> bhearsum: now to check if Amazon carries them...
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# [15:51] <bhearsum> they do
# [15:51] <bhearsum> http://www.amazon.com/Maple-Cream-Cookies-Per-Box/dp/B000FKIYFS
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# [15:52] <Unfocused> roc: not always... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_google_failed_internet_meme.php
# [15:52] <lahabana> hey anybody could explain me something in Xul?
# [15:52] <@roc> jesup: yeah, disabling SPDY fixes it until I reenable SPDY again
# [15:52] <@roc> tbpl seems to work now, maybe toggling SPDY fixed it, not sure
# [15:52] <@smaug> lahabana: if you ask the question, someone might answer to it ;)
# [15:53] <lahabana> for sure ;)
# [15:53] <jesup> bhearsum: is there anything amazon *doesn't* sell?
# [15:53] <@roc> Loading tbpl seems to sometimes trigger a google.com DNS lookup so there may be some strange dependency there
# [15:53] <bhearsum> in canada there is
# [15:53] <jesup> roc: it may use a JS module on google
# [15:53] <lahabana> it's about xul:textbox I don't understand how the inner html:input is resized by the textbox
# [15:54] <jesup> roc: cool. At least we have a smoking gun. Over to Patrick!
# [15:54] <@roc> I hope he gets back to me before this browser session crashes
# [15:54] <glandium> roc: now the interesting question is, why does it fail for you and not for us
# [15:54] <@roc> I'm sure it's some crazy intermittent thing
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# [15:55] <@roc> this never happened to me before
# [15:55] <glandium> roc: I can already tell you I'm got an iceweasel user who has problems talking to google since he switched to version 13
# [15:55] <khuey> ooh
# [15:55] <jesup> glandium: almsot certainly a failed SPDY connection - hung at one end or the other, or some other state issue.
# [15:55] <khuey> looks like prop 29 failed
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# [15:55] <khuey> wasn't expecting that
# [15:55] <jesup> prop 29?
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# [15:55] <jesup> Sounds like a CA thing
# [15:55] <khuey> increasing cigarette taxes in CA
# [15:56] <khuey> and then spending the money in stupid ways
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# [15:56] <@smaug> lahabana: gavin, dao, Enn could probably tell you
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# [15:56] <zzzzz> Isn't 13 the first version to have SPDY 'on by default ' ? Maybe its SPDY acting weird
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# [15:57] <glandium> zzzzz: it is
# [15:57] <lahabana> smaug: ok thx
# [15:57] <jesup> SPDY certainly could have bugs. And they could be bugs at teh server
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# [15:58] <jesup> We should have code (if we don't) that tripwires SPDY and if it doesn't respond, kill the SPDY connection and re-establish. (we *should* have that)
# [15:58] <zzzzz> I had a crash yesterday on XP using 13 watching Youtube vids - that implecated SPDY in the crash-report - but that was at work and I don't have the CR available at this time - my days off
# [15:58] <jesup> But it certainly sounds like a non-responsive persistent SPDY connection
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# [15:58] <@roc> Patrick's already on it, cool
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# [15:59] <jesup> roc: excellent
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# [15:59] <jesup> hope I was helpful; time for breakfast. He might have to have you root around in GDB/etc
# [15:59] <lahabana> vingtetun gavin dao : can one of you explain me how xul:textbox resizes its inner html:input
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# [16:00] <@roc> jesup: yeah, thanks a ton
# [16:00] <@roc> but I'm on Windows, so no GDB for me
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# [16:01] <khuey> yeah, you have access to a real debugger
# [16:01] <jesup> ok, whatever debugger there (haven't run windows debuggers in ~14 years IIRC. I may have to learn again.)
# [16:01] <@roc> Visual Studio isn't much better than gdb, it's just differently bad
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# [16:02] <khuey> gdb always segfaults for me right when I'm at the critical point in the debugging session
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# [16:04] <@roc> now I figure out how to turn on NSPR logging from the debugger
# [16:05] <@roc> I have had plenty of situations where Visual Studio went bananas and killed my debugee unexpectedly
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# [16:06] <glandium> khuey: that happens pretty rarely to me
# [16:06] <glandium> roc: you need to find the logModules static variable from prlog.c
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# [16:06] <@roc> I've bumped the log level
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# [16:07] <@roc> now I need to figure out how to set the log file safely, since Windows opt builds send stdout to the void
# [16:07] <@roc> I could try calling PR_SetLogFile from the debugger, but I'm afraid
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# [16:08] <glandium> roc: it should do what you want
# [16:08] <glandium> roc: pretty safely
# [16:09] <@roc> what the hell, it's 2am
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# [16:10] <@roc> haha it worked
# [16:10] <@roc> glandium++
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# [16:17] <@roc> alright, must sleep
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# [16:19] <Ms2ger> Good night
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# [16:37] <NeilAway> did we make the third parameter to addObserver optional at any point?
# [16:38] <Ms2ger> Doesn't look like it
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# [16:39] <Ms2ger> mounir, empty patch
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# [16:39] <mounir> damn
# [16:39] <mounir> again :)
# [16:40] <mounir> hmm
# [16:41] <@bsmedberg> Is there a web version/alternative to Things?
# [16:41] <lahabana> hey sorry to insist but can one of you explain me how xul:textbox resizes its inner html:input
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# [16:43] <Ms2ger> So...
# [16:43] <Ms2ger> Can someone explain to me why the debug code at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditRules.cpp#1908 doesn't leak?
# [16:43] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: how do you get to know of the all the changes instantly, do you take a look at https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ ?
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> Right
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# [16:44] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, are you making unwarranted assumptions there?
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> I think so
# [16:44] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: what makes you think that it doesn't leak?
# [16:45] <Ms2ger> Sorry, been working on DOM code :)
# [16:45] <mbrubeck> lahabana: See http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/textbox.css
# [16:45] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: come to think of it, we should addreff the node a bunch of more times, to make damn sure that we're gonna leak it ;)
# [16:45] <lahabana> thx mbrubeck
# [16:46] <mbrubeck> html|*.textbox-input has -moz-box-flex:1, which causes it to expand to the same size as its container -- does that answer your question?
# [16:47] <froydnj_> whee, mozilla is producing music in nyc now
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# [16:48] <sheppy> I read that as "producing music with *nsync at first and was sad and afraid.
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# [16:48] <lahabana> mbrubeck: yes it does
# [16:48] <lahabana> thx
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# [16:48] <sheppy> Ms2ger: :(
# [16:48] <lahabana> mbrubeck: though my problem is that currently it enlarges really well
# [16:48] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hmm, so how did http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/95862b813922#l2.60 ever work?
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# [16:49] <glandium> Ms2ger: why would that leak?
# [16:49] <lahabana> but when it comes to reducing it at some point it just stops
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, Is it your turn to make unwarranted assumptions?
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> glandium, XPCOM, outparam, addref without release
# [16:49] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ???
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, what makes you think it worked?
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# [16:50] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, it got checked in :-P
# [16:50] <lahabana> mbrubeck: and do stuff like that http://lahab.sandbox.nodester.com/searchbar.png (look where the magnifing glass is gone)
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# [16:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, so did that leak I just pointed out :)
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> (Daily editor jibe: check)
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# [16:50] <Ms2ger> (cc: edmorley)
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# [16:51] <glandium> Ms2ger: where would the addref happen?
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# [16:51] <Ms2ger> glandium, where it always happens, in the getter
# [16:51] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: leaks twice if the assert fails ;-)
# [16:52] <NeilAway> thus getter_AddRefs!
# [16:52] <Ms2ger> glandium, in particular, under CQI in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsRange.cpp#765
# [16:52] <NeilAway> lahabana: it won't reduce it beyond its min-width
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# [16:53] <lahabana> NeilAway: css min-width?
# [16:53] * Ms2ger steps back
# [16:53] <NeilAway> lahabana: I think you can use CSS to override its internal idea of min-width
# [16:53] <Ms2ger> Am I really explaining XPCOM to someone now?
# [16:53] * NeilAway isn't sure though
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# [16:54] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: you must be an xpcom peer by now ;-)
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> Alright, we're done.
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> I'm going to hack WebKit instead.
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# [16:55] <lahabana> NeilAway: I see I'm affraid that won't be parmanent enough
# [16:55] <mounir> Ms2ger: there code is understandable, there is no fun there!
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# [16:55] <glandium> Ms2ger: in this particular case, i'm not convinced
# [16:56] <glandium> Ms2ger: CQI only calls QI, QI doesn't addref, does it?
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> Er
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> You must really be new here
# [16:56] <NeilAway> glandium: QI nearly always addrefs
# [16:57] <NeilAway> glandium: you usually don't want to know when it doesn't addrefs
# [16:57] <NeilAway> s/s$//
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsISupportsImpl.h#610
# [16:57] <jlebar|sleep> smaug, ping re https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757182#c7
# [16:58] <glandium> Ms2ger: i stay away from xpcom implementation details as much as i can. And when i do end up looking at it, I manage to forget straight away
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# [16:59] <Ms2ger> I just hope you use smart pointers, or your code must leak like a Firefox 3
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# [16:59] <glandium> Ms2ger: i rarely use bare pointers
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# [16:59] <froydnj_> glandium's so smart that his pointers don't need to be
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> froydnj_, except it's the opposite ;)
# [16:59] <glandium> Ms2ger: that's when i do that i end up looking at xpcom implementation details
# [16:59] <@ted> i don't always use bare pointers, but when i do
# [17:00] <@ted> program terminated (segmentation fault)
# [17:00] <froydnj_> ted++
# [17:01] <alexdmt> ping ehsan
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# [17:01] <@ehsan> alexdmt: hi
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# [17:01] <alexdmt> hi ehsan
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# [17:02] <alexdmt> I am currently working on bug #716875 about nsTextControlFrame and during reflow I need to check that children overflow is always on the text control frame bounds
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# [17:03] <alexdmt> should I check this property for both the VisualOverflow and the ScrollableOverflow, or only the VisualOverflow ?
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# [17:05] <alexdmt> atm I'm doing the checking only for VisualOverflow and I am wondering whether it is correct
# [17:05] <froydnj_> anybody have mildly large pages they commonly use for about:memory testing? jlebar|afk?
# [17:05] <glandium> froydnj_: tinderbox logs ?
# [17:05] <glandium> html5 spec ?
# [17:06] <froydnj_> I asked for "mildly large", not insane :)
# [17:06] <@ehsan> alexdmt: I think only for visualoverflow
# [17:06] <mounir> froydnj_: html5 spec is midly large
# [17:06] <@ehsan> alexdmt: because it should be perfectly fine for the children to have scrollable overflow
# [17:06] <@ehsan> right?
# [17:06] <alexdmt> ehsan: right
# [17:06] <AryehGregor> ehsan, so what nodes exactly can exist under the root in a plaintext editor, anyway?
# [17:06] <glandium> froydnj_: if you think that's insane, you've not seen insanely big pages
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# [17:07] <alexdmt> ehsan: thank you a lot ;)
# [17:07] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: text nodes and at most one br node. anything other than that is A Serious Bug (tm)
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# [17:07] <@ehsan> alexdmt: thanks for working on that bug :)
# [17:07] <smontagu> ehsan: queue ping
# [17:07] <jesup> There are some fun O(n^2) layout bugs with nice tables of a million or so form elements
# [17:07] <AryehGregor> ehsan, and the <br> has to be trailing, or it can be leading also?
# [17:07] <@ehsan> smontagu: queue pong ;)
# [17:07] <alexdmt> ehsan: pleasure
# [17:07] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: the only case where it's "leading" is if there is no text node
# [17:07] * jesup exagerates, but only mildly
# [17:08] <smontagu> ehsan: I mean, ping when you finish with alexdmt and AryehGregor
# [17:08] <AryehGregor> ehsan, okay, that makes things a lot easier.
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# [17:08] <glandium> jesup: I don't remember the details, but i do remember I hit OOM once with an insane page
# [17:08] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: in fact, really there should only be two childs maximum these days
# [17:08] <froydnj_> mounir: well, for about:memory testing in a debug build, the html5 spec is > than mildly large (and we don't do well on it anyway :( )
# [17:08] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: one text node, followed by a br node
# [17:08] <AryehGregor> I saw that in the other place that does this same calculation. It's a lot simpler, no iteration needed or anything.
# [17:08] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: this used to not be the case where textareas would have one text node + a br node per line
# [17:08] <@ehsan> but I changed that behavior a while ago
# [17:09] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: so for the most part, iterating over the children shouldn't really be needed any more, but I'm not sure if we manage to get a single text node in all the corner cases
# [17:09] <@ehsan> (they would be bugs which we should fix if we ever find such cases)
# [17:09] <@ehsan> smontagu: :) ok what's up?
# [17:09] <AryehGregor> ehsan, nsTextControlFrame::DOMPointToOffset already assumes (and NS_ASSERTIONs) that there's at most one text node followed by a <br>.
# [17:10] <smontagu> ehsan: I'm nearing the end of dir=auto
# [17:10] <AryehGregor> (why the <br>?)
# [17:10] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: yeah (the br is there for historical reasons)
# [17:10] <@ehsan> smontagu: \o/
# [17:10] <smontagu> ehsan: I'm stuck with the TextNodeDirectionalityMap thing
# [17:10] <Yoric> Is there any way to dump the js stack in case of assertion failure?
# [17:10] <@ehsan> ok how can I help?
# [17:10] <AryehGregor> Can we get rid of it, so it only has one text node? Would be nice to not have to have a DOM here at all, in fact!
# [17:10] <@ehsan> Yoric: DumpJSStack()
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# [17:11] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: we can, but there's a lot of code which sort of depends on that...
# [17:11] <Yoric> ehsan: Yeah, that was my fallback plan :)
# [17:11] <@ehsan> Yoric: that's the only way afaik :) and it doesn't work all the time either
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# [17:12] <Yoric> ehsan: I can't find the header in which it is defined, though.
# [17:12] <smontagu> ehsan: firstly from the conceptual point of view, most of the time it seems to be indexed by the text node that sets the direction of elements which are dir=auto
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# [17:13] <Yoric> Ah, well, I'll manage.
# [17:13] <@ehsan> Yoric: it's not defined in a header http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/js/xpconnect/src/nsXPConnect.cpp.html#l2848, you need to delcare it on your own
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# [17:13] <smontagu> but suddenly in paragraph 7, it needs to be indexed by the settees
# [17:13] <Yoric> thanks
# [17:13] <smontagu> (references to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/dir-auto, if you remember)
# [17:14] <@ehsan> smontagu: let me look at what I wrote again :)
# [17:15] <lahabana> NeilAway: and when does it stops when there is no minWidth property set in css?
# [17:15] <@ehsan> smontagu: no, in such cases you need to iterate over the entire map and find (and remove) all of the entries which are mapped to the node being removed
# [17:15] <smontagu> :(
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# [17:15] <lahabana> NeilAway: I'm still talking of resizing with -moz-box-flex
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# [17:16] <@ehsan> smontagu: it's not the most efficient thing to do, I know, but it's way better than traversing the entire tree :)
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# [17:16] <smontagu> ok so this is why it needs to be per-document, which I was also unsure of
# [17:16] <@ehsan> smontagu: yeah
# [17:17] <@ehsan> smontagu: also, you don't want it to be global, cause that would complicate things that need to happen when a doc goes away for example
# [17:17] <smontagu> ehsan: now to implementation details
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# [17:18] <@ehsan> smontagu: ok
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# [17:19] <AryehGregor> How should I do min()/max()?
# [17:19] <AryehGregor> From some random file somewhere?
# [17:20] <AryehGregor> (I guess I can do a > b ? a : b or whatnot, but that seems less clear)
# [17:20] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: NS_MIN/NS_MAX
# [17:20] <AryehGregor> Thanks.
# [17:20] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: (when in doubt, prefix it with "NS_" ;)
# [17:20] * Ms2ger whacks ehsan
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> First prefix it with MOZ_, and if that doesn't work, prefix with NS_ :)
# [17:21] <@smaug> and if that doesn't work, try PR_
# [17:21] <@ehsan> also, when in doubt, doubt Ms2ger :P
# [17:21] <Ms2ger> ehsan, what do you mean, compile? :)
# [17:21] <@ehsan> come on guys, netscape for the win!
# [17:22] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I mean, I should probably review your future patches with more care now that I see you don't even attempt to compile them :P
# [17:22] <Yoric> ehsan: Unfortunately, ld won't find the symbol.
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# [17:22] <@ehsan> Yoric: hmm, which module are you in?
# [17:22] <mounir> ehsan: always doubt Ms2ger
# [17:22] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I'll attempt to compile them when I land... ;)
# [17:23] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: <grin>
# [17:23] <Yoric> ehsan: "cookie" (aka nsPermissionManager.cpp)
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# [17:23] <smontagu> ehsan: so it needs to be a nsSomethingHashTable?
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# [17:23] <Ms2ger> But with everyone being so nice, I guess I should be happy unpaid staff are still excluded from rypple
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# [17:24] <@ehsan> Yoric: hmm, I don't remember if that is linked out of libxul... sorry you may be out of luck
# [17:24] <@ehsan> Yoric: fwiw, you can emulate the same thing in gdb :)
# [17:24] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: trust me, some of us are not thrilled to be included in it ;)
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# [17:24] <Yoric> ehsan: Yeah...
# [17:25] <Ms2ger> ehsan, seeing the instructions, I can't imagine why not
# [17:25] <@ehsan> smontagu: hmm, probably
# [17:25] <@ehsan> smontagu: I mean, at the lack of better hashtable classes :)
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# [17:26] <@smaug> mounir: so what does <select>.size = -2 look like?
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# [17:26] <Yoric> ehsan: Actually, it looks like I had just forgotten |extern "C"|.
# [17:26] <mounir> smaug: if @multiple is set: 4 rows are shown
# [17:26] <mounir> otherwise, only 1
# [17:26] <mounir> IOW, like size=4 or size=1
# [17:26] <@smaug> mounir: but select.size would be 0 ?
# [17:27] <mounir> indeed
# [17:27] <smontagu> actually nsContentList looks interesting
# [17:27] <mounir> smaug: that's what you get because of the web's insanity
# [17:27] <@smaug> mounir: horrible API
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# [17:27] <@ehsan> smontagu: see the comments here: http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/xpcom/glue/nsTHashtable.h.html?string=nsTHashtable#l23
# [17:27] <mounir> smaug: I tried everything
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# [17:27] <@ehsan> smontagu: oh what is nsContentList?
# [17:27] <mounir> but we got major regressions
# [17:27] <@ehsan> a list I would guess?
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# [17:28] <smontagu> ehsan: I'm just trying to work that out
# [17:28] <mounir> smaug: some websites really set size to 0 sometimes
# [17:28] <@smaug> Ms2ger: whaat, do I ever criticize specs ?
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# [17:28] <Ms2ger> smontagu, an implementation of NodeList/HTMLCollection?
# [17:28] <smontagu> it seems to do things like the cells in a table row or the rows in a table
# [17:28] <@bz_sleep> nsContentList is an implementation class for "live" DOM lists
# [17:28] <mounir> specs are made by insane people
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# [17:28] <Ms2ger> smaug, no comment
# [17:29] <@bz> mounir: since we're the ones making them... hell, yes
# [17:29] <@bz> smontagu, ehsan: what's the question about nsContentList ?
# [17:29] <@smaug> mounir: so, why are we changing the behavior
# [17:29] <Ms2ger> mounir, I hear this one B2G guy in Paris is writing 'orrible specs
# [17:30] <@smaug> :p
# [17:30] <smontagu> bz: the question is how to implement "a per-document hash table mapping a text node to a set of elements" from https://etherpad.mozilla.org/dir-auto
# [17:30] <@smaug> mounir: do we have a test for <select size="-2"> ?
# [17:30] <@bz> ah
# [17:30] <jlebar|afk> froydnj_, html5 spec, or a medium-sized hg diff (say of an m-i to m-c merge).
# [17:30] <mounir> smaug: in the patch, sir
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# [17:30] * @bz looks
# [17:30] <mounir> smaug: we are changing the behavior to match the specs
# [17:31] <mounir> if select.size = -1 is set, we will actually do select.size = 0
# [17:31] <@smaug> mounir: the patch has a test for select.size = -1
# [17:31] <@ehsan> smontagu: yeah I don't think nsContentList fits the bill...
# [17:31] <mounir> smaug: what's the difference?
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# [17:31] <@smaug> setAttribute
# [17:31] <mounir> Ms2ger: I don't know that guy but really, I wouldn't let a French guy doing any spec
# [17:31] <@smaug> but ok, there seems to be a test
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# [17:31] <@bz> nsContentList doesn't seem like a great fit here
# [17:32] <@bz> since it handles cases where something about the element determines whether it's in the set
# [17:32] <@bz> and that's not quite the case here
# [17:32] <@bz> (also, you don't need a DOM-ordered list here, etc)
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# [17:33] <mounir> smaug: to be clear, the patch doesn't allow size=-2
# [17:33] <mounir> if you do so, '0' will be saved in the content attribute
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# [17:34] <@smaug> mounir: what will be the value of .size after setAttribute("size", "-2");
# [17:34] <mounir> so basically, it's very close to what we are doing right now but follows the specs, follows how we reflect a uint and follows Presto and Webkit's behavior
# [17:34] <mounir> smaug: we return 0
# [17:34] <@smaug> k
# [17:34] <@smaug> that is what I expected
# [17:34] <mounir> I believe we are using the rules for parsing non-negative integer
# [17:35] <mounir> so setAttr or .size will behave the same
# [17:35] <@smaug> yup, that is good
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# [17:36] <smontagu> bz: so do you have another suggestion?
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# [17:40] <lahabana> bz ping
# [17:40] <@bz> smontagu: not sure
# [17:41] <@bz> smontagu: are all the relevant elements ancestors of the textnode or not?
# [17:41] <NeilAway> lahabana: sorry, I was away... sorry but I don't know all the places where a minimum width gets calculated
# [17:41] <@bz> smontagu: basically, there are two issues
# [17:41] <lahabana> NeilAway: ok no probs
# [17:41] <@bz> smontagu: 1) How to store the elements. An nsTArray<nsCOMPtr<Element> > should be fine
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# [17:41] <@bz> lahabana: ack
# [17:41] <@bz> smontagu: 2) How to correctly update the set of elements. I don't understand how this set is determined well enough to comment on it.
# [17:41] <lahabana> bz first thx for the review yesterday and we are wondering about something
# [17:41] <lahabana> http://mibpaste.com/BpB6cU
# [17:42] <lahabana> bz we do CSS_MINIMAX on the height
# [17:42] <lahabana> should we do it on the width too?
# [17:42] <@bz> lahabana: the reflow state does it on the width
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# [17:42] <lahabana> ho ok thx for the answer bz
# [17:43] <lahabana> also you know our layout problem
# [17:43] <lahabana> with the searchbar for example
# [17:43] <@bz> nope
# [17:43] <@bz> I don't
# [17:43] <lahabana> and xul's searchbox
# [17:43] <lahabana> ?
# [17:43] <mkaply> Is there any way to use printdialog.xul on windows? Setting print.extend_native_print_dialog isn't it.
# [17:43] <lahabana> ho ok sorry
# [17:43] <AryehGregor> ehsan, bah, you posted to the bug just before I posted my patch.
# [17:43] <@bz> oh, the one where the browser UI looked messed up?
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# [17:43] <lahabana> let me send u a screenshot
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# [17:43] <lahabana> http://lahab.sandbox.nodester.com/searchbar.png
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# [17:43] <smontagu> bz: the elements are ancestors of the text node
# [17:44] <lahabana> bz look at the magnifying glass
# [17:44] <lahabana> bz this happens when u resize the window we realized that until a certain size everything is fine
# [17:44] <@bz> smontagu: ok. so the hard case is how to handle changes to the textnode's text?
# [17:44] <lahabana> but when u go under a certain size it stops resizing
# [17:45] <smontagu> when the text node is added to the document, we walk up its ancestors and set the directionality of any of them with dir=auto to the direction of the text node
# [17:45] <@bz> lahabana: ok.. what's the behavior without your patch?
# [17:45] <smontagu> bz: indeed
# [17:45] <@bz> smontagu: so when the text changes....
# [17:45] <lahabana> bz apparently it's due to a min-width though it doesn't seem to be set at all
# [17:45] <@bz> smontagu: you'd walk the list of things the textnode affects
# [17:45] <lahabana> bz without the patch u can reduce to a size of 0
# [17:45] <@bz> smontagu: and either leave them in the list or not, right?
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# [17:46] <@bz> smontagu: depending on the new text?
# [17:46] <lahabana> bz just the padding and borders
# [17:46] <lahabana> no width
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# [17:46] <lahabana> ours get stuck quickly
# [17:46] <smontagu> bz: if the only thing that has changed is the text, I don't think the list needs to change
# [17:46] <@bz> smontagu: or could it be that now a different textnode would affect them and you have to find which one?
# [17:46] <@bz> smontagu: ok
# [17:46] <@bz> smontagu: so when _does_ the list need to change?
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# [17:46] <lahabana> bz we also noticed that if we return simply 0 in the GetMinWidth it does work well
# [17:47] <@bz> lahabana: right
# [17:47] <@bz> lahabana: but that's incorrect for html layout
# [17:47] <@bz> lahabana: how did this use to work?
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# [17:47] <smontagu> bz: if textnodes get removed, or a textnode gets inserted before the node that currently determines the direction
# [17:47] <lahabana> though you told us yesterday that we shouldn't that getPrefWidth and getMinWidth should return the same
# [17:47] <@bz> lahabana: because it's not like we returned a 0 from GetMinWidth before
# [17:47] <@bz> ok
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# [17:47] <@bz> well, in the latter case you would just remove the no-longer-determining textnode from the hashtable
# [17:47] <@bz> and add the new thing
# [17:47] <@bz> right?
# [17:47] <@bz> in the former, similar?
# [17:48] <smontagu> I suppose a change to the textnode could also change the list on second thoughts
# [17:48] <smontagu> if it changed from directional to neutral
# [17:48] <@bz> right
# [17:48] <lahabana> getMinWidth and getPrefWidth were returning the same value
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# [17:48] <@bz> lahabana: yes
# [17:49] <@bz> lahabana: so why did it shrink?
# [17:49] <lahabana> bz roc thinks it's something to change in xul
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# [17:49] <lahabana> don't know
# [17:49] <@bz> lahabana: indeed
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# [17:49] <lahabana> I don't agree with roc (yes I know...)
# [17:49] <@bz> lahabana: have you considered changing the XUL textbox binding to put "width: 100%" on the html input
# [17:49] * @bz agrees with roc
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# [17:49] <@bz> XUL was basically relying on the behavior of the box reflow methods here somehow
# [17:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/233a5180da19 - Panos Astithas - Bug 761231 - Font for the Debugger panels should be message-box; r=dao
# [17:49] <lahabana> mainly cause it does exactly the same in html
# [17:49] <@bz> now you no longer have box reflow
# [17:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/715f521dd3e2 - Chris Lee - Bug 523140 - Improve language of 'Start New Session' string in about:sessionrestore; r=zpao
# [17:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7f6e0921d3c8 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
# [17:50] <@bz> for HTML the behavior is correct
# [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e767617a0003 - Victor Porof - Bug 760868 - Gmail includes scripts names that make the debugger script list too long; r=past
# [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f0a331cf5ec - Victor Porof - Bug 753225 - Intermittent browser_dbg_createRemote.js; r=past
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# [17:51] <lahabana> I see
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# [17:52] <lahabana> bz I'm going to try that
# [17:53] <smontagu> bz, ehsan: so I think I need a pointer on the element to the textnode that determines its direction, AND an array on the textnode of elements whose direction it determines
# [17:54] <smontagu> and nothing on the document
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# [17:55] <nemo> huh. alt key no longer seems to show File menu?
# [17:55] <nemo> Could someone add style sheet switching to Web Developer menu then?
# [17:56] <@bz> smontagu: that seems plausible
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# [17:57] <espindola> are we suposed to compile js with c++ exceptions enabled?
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# [18:00] <espindola> or ehsan, do you guys know?
# [18:01] <jlebar> khuey, ping?
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# [18:01] <jlebar> khuey, Next time, could you ask me before disabling one of my tests? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740626#c32
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# [18:02] <jlebar> khuey, please?
# [18:03] <khuey> jlebar: sorry :-(
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# [18:04] <smontagu> except that adding 4 bytes to nsINode isn't going to win me any popularity contests
# [18:05] <Ms2ger> If bz approves...
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# [18:05] <@smaug> smontagu: for what?
# [18:05] <@bz> why would you add 8 bytes to nsINode?
# [18:05] <@bz> or rather...
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# [18:06] <@bz> what's the common case here?
# [18:06] <smontagu> the common case is that no elements have dir=auto so no textnode is setting their direction
# [18:06] <Ms2ger> Slots!
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# [18:06] <@bz> ok
# [18:06] <@bz> so put it in an element property?
# [18:07] <jlebar> khuey, Well, it would have been much easier to understand if TBPL didn't spam bugs like it does.
# [18:07] <@bz> with a boolean flag indicating that the prop is present?
# [18:07] <@bz> no need to add to element size
# [18:07] <khuey> jlebar: yeah
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# [18:27] <bhearsum> Pike: any idea about this error on mac aurora l10n? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1657132
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# [18:30] <Pike> bhearsum: on the rypple thing right now
# [18:31] <bhearsum> ok
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# [18:39] <bhearsum> Pike: i see some successes sprinkled in, must be an l10n or code issue
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# [18:47] <mounir> Ms2ger: bug file, patch attached, waiting for your review
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# [18:51] <ajuma> is there a pref for increasing the amount of time before the slow script warning fires?
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# [18:52] <@smaug> ajuma: yes
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# [18:54] <@smaug> ajuma: somewhere in nsJSEnvironment...
# [18:54] <@smaug> looking
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# [18:54] <ajuma> smaug: thanks.
# [18:54] <ajuma> smaug: dom.max_script_run_time?
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# [18:54] <@smaug> ajuma: I think so
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# [18:55] <@smaug> ajuma: and there is another one for chrome
# [18:55] <ajuma> thanks, will give that a try
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# [18:56] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: are you around to land bug 761861 or do you want me to?
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# [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e5b003aaf179 - John Ford - bug 760138 - build redit.exe for b2g rs=cjones
# [18:59] <Pike> bhearsum: no idea where those are coming from, but they're purely inside the build logic, and not localizers fault
# [18:59] <bhearsum> yeah, alright
# [18:59] <Ms2ger> ehsan, 8PM... Go for it, I think ;)
# [18:59] <@ehsan> ok
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# [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c4da1c7555ee - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 761861 - Fix crash in nsHTMLEditor::DeleteSelectionImpl; r=ehsan
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# [19:08] <jesup> glandium: bug 319143 is an example of a memory/perf killer (O(n^1.5)-ish until you page)
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# [19:16] <froydnj_> ehsan: could you comment in bug 674922 on whether numbers for individual frame classes would be useful (vs. aggregate total frame #bytes), since you filed the bug?
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# [19:18] <mounir> Ms2ger: 8pm ?
# [19:19] <Ms2ger> Israel is one hour further
# [19:19] <Ms2ger> Like the silly Fins
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> froydnj_: will look in a sec
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# [19:26] <froydnj_> ehsan: thanks!
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# [19:29] <dietrich> anyone know what this regression in today's nightly is from? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762105
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# [19:32] <Ms2ger> Bisect?
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# [19:36] <Ms2ger> ehsan, yt?
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# [19:38] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: yeah
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> So, looking at
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditor.cpp#4308
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/editor/libeditor/html/nsHTMLEditor.cpp#4357
# [19:39] <@ehsan> froydnj_: it would definitely be useful to get per-frametype bytes
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> Why don't those look the same?
# [19:39] <@ehsan> froydnj_: is that easy to do?
# [19:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: GetNextHTMLNode should probably be fixed to take the active editing host into account
# [19:40] <froydnj_> ehsan: it's quite easy; the concern was cluttering up about:memory with 150+ frame-type #s
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# [19:41] <@ehsan> froydnj_: wouldn't that only appear in the verbose output?
# [19:41] <froydnj_> ehsan: but if per-frame-type is desirable, then we can look at ways of reducing the clutter. thanks!
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# [19:41] <@ehsan> froydnj_: yeah, cause that could give you valuable information on what is casing the frametree memory to be larger than you would expect
# [19:41] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so if I copied the GetPriorHTMLNode implementation with s/Prior/Next/g, would you take that?
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# [19:41] <@ehsan> froydnj_: great work on that bug btw
# [19:41] <froydnj_> ehsan: thanks
# [19:42] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: if you run it through try (and the compiler ;)
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# [19:42] <Ms2ger> That takes all the fun out :)
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# [19:42] <@ehsan> hehe
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# [19:47] <AryehGregor> ehsan, should I use out params when returning two offsets, or would it be nicer to return a struct of some kind?
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# [19:49] <edmorley> mounir: intermittent orange to file on your push
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# [19:49] <edmorley> philor: about to clobber android on m-c unless you've done so?>
# [19:49] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: I'd use out params
# [19:49] <philor> edmorley: nope, haven't even looked at it
# [19:49] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: now, if we used std::pair... ;)
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# [19:51] <Ms2ger> ehsan, how do you get the members out? std::iter<std::pair>(pair, std::get_first_element<std::pair>())?
# [19:51] * Ms2ger expects the actual API to be worse
# [19:52] <mounir> edmorley: thanks, bug filed
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# [19:52] <edmorley> mounir: awesome, thank you :-)
# [19:53] <froydnj_> Ms2ger: pair.first, pair.second
# [19:53] <edmorley> mounir: was comment 0 meant to be empty?
# [19:53] <Ms2ger> froydnj_, how did that ever get into the stl?
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# [19:54] <froydnj_> Ms2ger: sekret post-ballot modifications, I guess
# [19:54] <mounir> edmorley: oups
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# [19:55] <mounir> edmorley: done
# [19:55] <mounir> sorry, on the phone ;)
# [19:55] <Waldo> C++11 has a tuple type, which obviously depends on variadic templates and other new stuff
# [19:55] <Waldo> better and more general than pair, obviously, but requires more work to understand/work with
# [19:55] <edmorley> mounir: np, thank you :-)
# [19:55] <Waldo> and newer compilers
# [19:55] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: the members of what? pair?
# [19:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: .first, .second :P
# [19:56] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you're slower than froydnj_, how does that make you feel?
# [19:56] <froydnj_> probably happy that he is getting Real Work done
# [19:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: like a person who hangs on multiple channels, and doesn't read backlog? ;)
# [19:56] <@ehsan> froydnj_: I wish that were the case ;)
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# [19:57] <froydnj_> ehsan: we won't tell anybody :)
# [19:57] <jesup> bhearsum: Ok, I've upped the going rate for reviews from khuey. Hope no one outbids me...
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I'll have to put that on rypple
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# [19:58] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you can't <laughter type=evil> ;)
# [19:58] <Ms2ger> That's what they made you think :)
# [19:58] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: (I was kidding -- if that wasn't obvious!)
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# [19:59] <edmorley> ehsan: we've not had a green native android R3 at all since youur bug 157681 push, do you think it's made things worse? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=Android%20Tegra%20250%20mozilla-inbound%20opt%20test%20reftest-3
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# [19:59] <edmorley> ha
# [19:59] <@ehsan> hmm
# [20:00] <edmorley> it was never the best, but does seem quite a bit worse now
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# [20:00] <@ehsan> edmorley: can you read these logs?
# [20:01] <jhammel> of course not! it is <laughter class="evil"/> :P
# [20:01] <@ehsan> I can't find where gecko has actually started up?
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# [20:01] <@ehsan> jhammel: go away you xml person ;)
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# [20:02] <glandium> who's going to fsck?
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# [20:03] <edmorley> ehsan: I'm not the best at interpreting them yet sorry
# [20:04] <@ehsan> edmorley: can you ask somebody on #mobile to take a look at these logs?
# [20:04] <@ehsan> edmorley: I'm not opposed to backing out if I'm really at fault, but I wanna make sure first :)
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# [20:07] <edmorley> ehsan: done
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# [20:10] <@ehsan> edmorley: I'm not opposed to backing out if I'm really at fault, but I wanna make sure first :)
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# [20:11] <edmorley> ok :-)
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# [20:12] <@ehsan> edmorley|away: sorry wrong window!
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# [20:14] <InvisibleSmiley> akeybl: Hi. Can you take a quick look at bug 758530 approval requests? SM needs this one on all branches in order to build our next beta. Patch has r+ now. Thanks!
# [20:14] <akeybl> InvisibleSmiley: looking now
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# [20:16] <akeybl> InvisibleSmiley: this hasn't been in a nightly yet - are we certain there won't be risk of FF regression
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# [20:17] <InvisibleSmiley> akeybl: I wouldn't know how - I just added back SM as one of the apps using Sync (Weave), didn't remove or change anything else
# [20:17] <mfinkle> akeybl, i removed "3.6" from the template
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# [20:19] <lahabana> bz just to make sure it's not normal if the width property doesn't work on inputs?
# [20:20] <InvisibleSmiley> akeybl: if you feel safer, consider postponing your decision until after the next FF nightly is out. We plan our next beta for Friday so probably won't build until tomorrow
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# [20:20] <akeybl> mfinkle: thanks, I bumped the versions too
# [20:21] <akeybl> InvisibleSmiley: that'd be great - I'll ask the question in the bug in case we don't need to wait
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# [20:21] <jcranmer> this is pathetics
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# [20:21] <lahabana> bz this is my bad though the width:100% doesn't work
# [20:22] <jcranmer> I hacked up a script in python over the past two days
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# [20:22] <jcranmer> and it's faster than the combination of a c program and a perl script
# [20:22] <jhammel> not surprising
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# [20:22] <jcranmer> this is using the regular, slow python interpreter
# [20:23] <jcranmer> and I'm not trying to heavily optimize it
# [20:23] <@bz> lahabana: the width property should work on inputs, generally
# [20:23] <lahabana> bz it does except when the input is in a -moz-box div
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# [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/794751c0c8f4 - Olli Pettay - Bug 762007 - mozIDOMApplication* interfaces shouldn't inherit builtinclass interfaces, r=fabrice
# [20:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5fb42dae7200 - Olli Pettay - Bug 761621 - interfaces inheriting a builtinclass-interface should be builtinclass too, r=khuey
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# [21:06] <lahabana> bz well there's definitely a problem with width and display box on inputs
# [21:06] <lahabana> as the width property doesn't work on them
# [21:06] <@smaug> philor: thanks
# [21:06] <@smaug> for star'ing
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# [21:07] <lahabana> bz but I've got like no idea on how what can cause that
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# [21:09] <@bz> lahabana: is this in XUL or HTML?
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# [21:10] <lahabana> both
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# [21:11] <lahabana> bz: http://mibpaste.com/8vVvSs this is what I do
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# [21:11] <@bz> oh
# [21:11] <@bz> take out the -moz-box crud
# [21:11] <@bz> if you take _that_ out
# [21:11] <@bz> does width have an effect?
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# [21:12] <lahabana> bz I feel stupid....
# [21:12] <lahabana> bz yes it does
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# [21:13] <@bz> lahabana: ok
# [21:13] <@bz> lahabana: and in the box case, your flex is probably overriding things...
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# [21:14] <@bz> lahabana: I am guessing
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# [21:14] <@bz> lahabana: e.g. if you used a width larger than auto width, it would work
# [21:14] <@bz> lahabana: does it?
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# [21:15] <khuey> damn shaver for ever making me a peer
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# [21:15] <jhammel> muahaha ;)
# [21:15] <Waldo> haha
# [21:15] <lahabana> bz u mean on the main box? (the div here)
# [21:16] <Ms2ger> khuey, it's only getting worse now :)
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# [21:17] <lahabana> bz in the display: -moz-box (like in textbox in xul) the input resizes to get bigger really well
# [21:17] <lahabana> bz but when it get smaller it just fails
# [21:17] <@bz> lahabana: right
# [21:17] <lahabana> well it stays at auto width
# [21:17] <@bz> lahabana: because the box itself has no width set
# [21:17] <lahabana> that's the smaller it can get to
# [21:17] <@bz> lahabana: and so it makes itself the size of the input's intrinsic width or something
# [21:18] <@bz> lahabana: you may have to look at the XUL code to see what exactly it's calling and why
# [21:18] <@bz> lahabana: again, a good starting point is figuring out why this _used_ to work
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# [21:18] <lahabana> bz ok I'll try to
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# [21:23] <Jesse> i love you too, ms2ger
# [21:23] <Ms2ger> You love ccing me on editor bugs :/
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# [21:31] <espindola> Fallen, looking at callOrderedServices
# [21:31] <espindola> it looks like the problem is one of the callbacks faling
# [21:32] <espindola> and we stopping before calling all the shutdown methods
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# [21:34] <lahabana> bz apparently it was because we removed getMinSize
# [21:34] <@bz> lahabana: ah, interesting
# [21:34] <lahabana> should I then put back getMaxSize etc
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# [21:35] <@bz> lahabana: which the XUL code was calling and which was returning something quite different from GetMinWidth?
# [21:35] <lahabana> yes
# [21:35] <@bz> lahabana: one sec
# [21:35] <@bz> no need to put back in GetMaxSize
# [21:35] <@bz> because that was forwarding to parent anyway
# [21:36] <@bz> hrmph
# [21:36] <@bz> but so was GetMinSize???
# [21:36] <@bz> I'd just restore GetMinSize for now
# [21:36] <@bz> and see if anything goes wrong. ;)
# [21:37] <@bz> so in particular
# [21:37] <@bz> GetMinSize used to land in nsBox::GetMinSize
# [21:37] <@bz> now it lands in nsFrame::GetMinSize
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# [21:37] <@bz> which is a pretty different beastie
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# [21:38] <lahabana> yes
# [21:38] <@bz> But the GetMaxSize impls are pretty similar
# [21:39] <@bz> so it should be ok to not implement GetMaxSize
# [21:39] <@bz> I suspect
# [21:39] <Fallen> espindola: hm have you found out which one is failing?
# [21:39] <lahabana> ok we'll see
# [21:39] <lahabana> btw is there any kind of automated tests for layout
# [21:39] <lahabana> appart from reftest
# [21:40] <lahabana> but reftests can just be wrong for us as I we generate wrongly it's just won't see it
# [21:40] <lahabana> ...
# [21:40] <@bz> there are some mochitests that test layout too
# [21:40] <@bz> but in general, reftest is it
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# [21:40] <lahabana> ok thx
# [21:41] <lahabana> well I think our patch is getting close to the end...
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# [21:41] <lahabana> ho and btw the padding in "%" works now
# [21:41] <espindola> Fallen, looks like calCalendarManage.js, debugging it...
# [21:41] <lahabana> there was a bug filed for that
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# [21:42] <lahabana> and changing nsContainerFrame solved it too
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# [21:42] <lahabana> not Container sorry nsTextControlFrame
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# [21:43] <Fallen> espindola: probably makes sense to ensure all such services have their startup/shutdown functions wrapped in try/catch and possibly a finally block
# [21:45] <@bz> lahabana: nice. ;)
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# [21:48] <espindola> Fallen, I made the function look like
# [21:48] <espindola> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1657249
# [21:48] <espindola> what I get is
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# [21:48] <espindola> 5, 6, 7, 8 (i.e., the last service shutdown is ok)
# [21:48] <espindola> then
# [21:48] <espindola> 5, 6,7 and the error
# [21:49] <espindola> * Call to xpconnect wrapped JSObject produced this error: *
# [21:49] <espindola> [Exception... "Illegal operation on WrappedNative prototype object" nsresult: "0x8057000c (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_OP_ON_WN_PROTO)" location: "JS frame :: resource://calendar/modules/calUtils.jsm -> file:///home/espindola/mozilla/comm-central/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/mozilla/dist/bin/extensions/%7Be2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103%7D/calendar-js/calStartupService.js :: callOrderedServices :: line 24" data: no]
# [21:49] <espindola> ************************************************************
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# [21:50] <espindola> The second from last is calMgr...
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# [21:51] <Ms2ger> FTBFS?
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# [21:53] <Fallen> espindola: could you add similar dump functions to calCalendarManager's shutdown function?
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# [21:53] <espindola> Fallen, I added a dump to
# [21:53] <espindola> shutdown: function ccm_shutdown(aCompleteListener) {
# [21:53] <espindola> but it never prints
# [21:53] <espindola> something goes wrong in the parameter binding?
# [21:54] <Fallen> yeah looks like it. what is line 24 of calStartupService for you? for me its a comment line...
# [21:54] <espindola> Fallen, it is the
# [21:54] <espindola> onResult: function() {
# [21:55] <espindola> the numbers ar shifted because of the dumps..
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# [21:58] <Fallen> now that is strange...
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# [21:59] <espindola> Fallen, another thing ,in 760243
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# [21:59] <espindola> if I use localDB
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# [21:59] <espindola> I don't need the bind(this)
# [21:59] <espindola> correct?
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# [22:01] <Fallen> espindola: correct
# [22:01] <Fallen> espindola: you could try adding this to the listener: QueryInterface: XPCOMUtils.generateQI([Components.interfaces.calIGenericOperationListener]),
# [22:01] <Fallen> (and Cu.import ing XPCOMUtils
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# [22:02] <Fallen> maybe its wrapping it and then not knowing what it is
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# [22:03] <espindola> will try
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# [22:04] <Fallen> espindola: this is happening on shutdown only, right?
# [22:04] <espindola> Fallen, I was only looking at the end of the log
# [22:04] <espindola> let me check what happens during startup
# [22:05] <Fallen> no just asking, go ahead and fix the shutdown case first
# [22:05] <Fallen> I'm trying to reproduce
# [22:05] <JonathanS> all caps menu bar, oh dear from MS
# [22:06] <Fallen> espindola: Hmm for me its calling into the calendar manager shutdown function, but it fails when removing the profile-after-change observer
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# [22:06] <espindola> Fallen, I see at the start of the log:
# [22:06] <espindola> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1657255
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# [22:08] <espindola> Fallen, the full patch I have applied is
# [22:08] <espindola> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1657258
# [22:08] <espindola> and tip is 686474e9b65d
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# [22:15] <espindola> fabrice, adding the QueryInterface you suggested
# [22:15] <espindola> produces
# [22:15] <espindola> Exception... "Illegal operation on WrappedNative prototype object" nsresult: "0x8057000c (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_OP_ON_WN_PROTO)
# [22:16] <espindola> on the line where it is added
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# [22:18] <jlebar|mac> <rant>Why the heck is vidyo's video stream interlaced?</rant>
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# [22:20] <jcranmer> because 1080p sucks :-P
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# [22:24] <Standard8> smaug: update to latest Thunderbird
# [22:24] <@smaug> Standard8: I just did
# [22:24] <@smaug> and it failed badly
# [22:24] <@smaug> or is there a new daily ?
# [22:24] <Standard8> smaug: there should be a fixed one
# [22:24] * @smaug moved to EarlyBird already
# [22:24] <@smaug> ah
# [22:24] <@smaug> Standard8: I'll try
# [22:25] <Standard8> m-c broke us a little before nightlies were generated
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# [22:25] <Standard8> but we fixed it and respun
# [22:27] <@smaug> Standard8: ok, works now
# [22:27] <@smaug> thanks!
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# [22:39] <gavin> bz: I vaguely recall there being some way to hook into a "root" progress listener" that will get notified for everything (in the gecko process, across windows etc.) - is that recollection correct, and if so can you give me something to mxr?
# [22:40] <Fallen> espindola: hmm ok, when I remove the removeObserver calls for profile-before-change and profile-after-change, it seems to complete the calmgr shutdown and does the timezone service shutdown, which fails because it can't close the db
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# [22:41] <gavin> I fear my recollection is incorrect. I can add a listener to the root tree item but that's not app-global iirc
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# [22:42] <espindola> Fallen, strange. Any idea why ge get different errors?
# [22:43] <Fallen> espindola: maybe because I don't have a debug build
# [22:43] <Fallen> the error i get is NS_ERROR_STORAGE_BUSY
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# [22:43] <Fallen> I think that is caught though
# [22:43] <espindola> Fallen, ok, that would do it
# [22:43] <@ehsan> bz: Y U NO R+?
# [22:43] <espindola> Fallen, my .mozconfig is
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# [22:44] <espindola> ac_add_options --enable-debug
# [22:44] <espindola> ac_add_options --enable-calendar
# [22:44] <espindola> mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j8"
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# [22:44] <Ms2ger> gavin, hh dear
# [22:44] <Ms2ger> oh*
# [22:44] <Fallen> espindola: I assume the debug build is just making some error more visible.
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# [22:45] <jhammel> pass
# [22:45] <jhammel> er, ignore that ;)
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# [22:45] <Fallen> I've never seen that error before tbh
# [22:45] <@bz> ehsan: because I don't want to deal with reading all that code and I'm trying to hand off all the necko stuff to the necko owner and multiple peers we have? ;)
# [22:45] <@bz> ehsan: at least if that was a serious question....
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# [22:45] <@bz> gavin: you there?
# [22:46] <gavin> bz: yes
# [22:46] <@bz> gavin: ignoring e10s, you can in fact hook up to a global nsIWebProgress
# [22:46] <gavin> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL_School/Intercepting_Page_Loads is horribly out of date and/or wrong
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# [22:46] <gavin> bz: just give me a keyword to MXR :)
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# [22:47] <@bz> gavin: working on it
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# [22:47] <espindola> rail, I upgraded to f17 and now I am recreating my centos vmv
# [22:47] <espindola> s
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# [22:47] <gavin> Cc['@mozilla.org/docloaderservice;1']. getService(Ci.nsIWebProgress) ?
# [22:47] <espindola> I can't find the 32 bit yasm
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# [22:47] <@bz> "@mozilla.org/docloaderservice;1"
# [22:47] <espindola> would you mind uploading it somewhere?
# [22:47] <@bz> gavin: ^
# [22:47] <@bz> gavin: yes
# [22:47] <gavin> thanks
# [22:48] <espindola> could only find the 64 bit one in http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/yasm-1.1.0-1.x86_64.rpm
# [22:48] <rail> espindola: sure, in a bit, mtg
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# [22:48] <espindola> rail-mtg, thaks
# [22:50] <Fallen> espindola: ah ok, my error is gone now. Did you remove the removeOberver calls for profile-after-change and profile-before-change in calMgr's shutdown function?
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# [22:51] <espindola> Fallen, no, let me try that
# [22:51] <rail-mtg> espindola: http://people.mozilla.org/~raliiev/clang/yasm-1.1.0-1.i386.rpm
# [22:51] <espindola> rail-mtg, awesome, thanks
# [22:51] <rail-mtg> yw
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# [22:51] <espindola> if the bootstrap + m-c builds are green I will update the clang packages
# [22:52] <rail-mtg> great
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# [22:52] <espindola> (and restart benchmarking it once I disable exceptions :-( )
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# [22:57] <kats> tn: ping
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# [22:58] <tn> kats, pong
# [22:58] <kats> tn: i don't see artifacts where it doesn't draw the right half of the page. what device were you testing with?
# [22:59] <tn> kats, galaxy s ii. with the testcase in the bug it is less obvious, you have to pinch zoom and scroll around a little, i'll msg you a better testcase
# [22:59] <kats> what i do see is touch events going haywire, presumably because of the layer not being created when processing touch events. i'm rebuilding with that half of the condition taken out
# [22:59] <espindola> Fallen, same errors with
# [22:59] <espindola> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1657299
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# [23:00] <@ehsan> bz: it wasn't serious :)
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# [23:02] <tn> kats, i think that actually matches what we do with regular scroll layers
# [23:03] <kats> tn: sorry, what matches?
# [23:03] <kats> i'm still not seeing artifacts on your test page
# [23:03] <@bz> ehsan: ok, good. ;)
# [23:03] <tn> kats, not creating the layer for events
# [23:03] <kats> the worst thing i've seen is https://people.mozilla.com/~kgupta/tmp/frameset.png - where you can see the frameset divider get thicker halfway down
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# [23:04] <kats> i'll try some other devices
# [23:04] <tn> kats, what does the craigslist forum link look like for you?
# [23:04] <tn> kats, portrait is easier to see the problems than landscape
# [23:05] <kats> the craigslist form looks the way i would expect it to look. let me post a screenshot
# [23:05] <@bz> hmm
# [23:05] <@bz> the profiler extensions dumps stuff to console
# [23:05] <@bz> that's kinda annoying
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# [23:05] <kats> tn: https://people.mozilla.com/~kgupta/tmp/frameset.png
# [23:06] <kats> again the thickish frame borders but otherwise ok
# [23:06] <@bz> ok, so a question
# [23:06] <@bz> say I do a profile
# [23:06] <@bz> with the cleopatra stuff
# [23:06] <@bz> how do I link someone to it?
# [23:07] <tn> kats, hmm weird, the right frame is completely missing for me
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# [23:07] <@bz> ah
# [23:07] <@bz> "upload full profile" button
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# [23:08] <Fallen> espindola: I'm out of ideas :-/
# [23:08] <espindola> can you try a debug build?
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# [23:09] <kats> tn: ah, on the droid RAZR the right frame isn't drawn, it's just white
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# [23:09] <Fallen> espindola: yeah, I'll have to create one. I'm about to head off to bed though, so I'll look tomorrow
# [23:10] <tn> kats, yeah, thats what i see
# [23:10] <kats> tn: ok, i will look into it more
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# [23:10] <tn> kats, thanks
# [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/af1e2967c7e8 - Ben Turner - Bug 762203 - 'Potential crash in IDBObjectStore::UpdateIndexes'. r=khuey.
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# [23:12] <espindola> Fallen, np
# [23:12] <espindola> thanks
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# [23:13] <Fallen> espindola: thank you for looking into that bug! :)
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# [23:21] <kats> tn: this looks very similar to the clipping problem i was seeing in bug 757362. In nsSubdocumentFrame, the size of the dirtyRect is the size of the screen rather than the size of the CSS viewport. (I think). And so anything that has CSS coordinates that exceed your screen pixel size will be clipped out and not drawn
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# [23:22] <kats> tn: on the droid razr the screen width is 540x960 pixels so anything that's outside that in CSS coordinates gets clipped out
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# [23:23] <kats> tn: the galaxy nexus I was testing with originally has 720 width so that right frame doesn't get clipped out and draws fine
# [23:23] <kats> tn: that being said i don't know what the correct fix is
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# [23:23] <@bz> happy days!
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# [23:23] <@bz> http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/06/06/Transforms%2C-Transitions-and-Animations
# [23:23] <tn> kats, that makes total sense, let me see if i can fix that
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# [23:24] <tn> kats, thanks
# [23:24] <kats> tn: no problem. if you think it should be fixed in browser.js let me know
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# [23:31] <biesi> don't know about a
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# [23:34] <nthomas> probably just 'android' - meaning a bit flaky
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# [23:39] <nemo> bjacob: http://www.jeshua.me/blog/Spectrascade#comment3 - Firefox bug?
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# [23:42] <bjacob> nemo: no, these are bugs in this webgl app, these enums are indeed invalid to pass to these functions
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# [23:42] <bjacob> nemo: 0x1906 is gl.ALPHA, they probably meant gl.SRC_ALPHA or some such
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# [23:43] <bjacob> nemo: and 0x0 is obviously an invalid value for enable()
# [23:44] <bjacob> nemo: replying
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# [23:45] <nemo> bjacob: interesting they went to the trouble of ensuring it used ogg for firefox, but didn't launch it in firefox. maybe it worked in some older version?
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