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- # [00:42] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: bustage ho
- # [00:42] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: i konw
- # [00:42] <dzbarsky> im trying to fix it locally
- # [00:42] <dzbarsky> I think that patch never actually compiled
- # [00:42] <RyanVM> also, I was planning to do bug 734891 by itself for easier regression finding
- # [00:43] <dzbarsky> ah, sorry. nothing else in my push touches the same code though
- # [00:44] <RyanVM> you checked in a bunch of stuff
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- # [00:45] <dzbarsky> do you want me to back it out?
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- # [00:47] <RyanVM> do you know what patch turned things red?
- # [00:47] <RyanVM> i'd back that out
- # [00:47] <dzbarsky> yeah
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- # [00:47] <dzbarsky> I have a fix
- # [00:47] <RyanVM> the rest just leave it at this point
- # [00:47] <dzbarsky> I'm making sure my fix compiles and I was planning to push that
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- # [00:51] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: also, you need to set target milestone, in-testsuite, etc when landing on inbound
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- # [00:52] <padenot> would anybody have any good pointer to learn how to write a service that implements an interface ?
- # [00:52] <padenot> like code, or actual doc ?
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- # [00:56] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: didn't know, doing now
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- # [01:05] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: do include the correct bug number in your bustage commit too ;)
- # [01:05] <RyanVM> lol, like that
- # [01:06] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: lessons for the future
- # [01:06] <dzbarsky> yep
- # [01:06] <dzbarsky> hopefully the tree is happy now
- # [01:06] <RyanVM> so the first is for bug 744157 and the second is 762801?
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- # [01:07] <dzbarsky> correct
- # [01:08] <RyanVM> good, because I was planning to do a merge tonight still
- # [01:08] <dzbarsky> excellent
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- # [01:27] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: just hoping nothing in your push has test failures
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- # [01:27] <RyanVM> of course, not much you can do about that :P
- # [01:27] <RyanVM> at which point, I'll just merge the push before yours
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- # [01:27] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: ok. sounds like a plan
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- # [01:41] <raymond> General question about the internals of content, and layout: I'm working on an enhancement to MathML; posting error messages to the console when problems with the markup occur. I'd like to be able to add some context information to the those errors (ideally, the line # & column on which the error occurs; but at the very least, the actual markup which originated the error.) The errors are being detected within the source files in l
- # [01:41] <raymond> ayout/mathml.
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- # [01:45] <padenot> raymond: maybe you want nsContentUtils::ReportToConsole ?
- # [01:46] <raymond> padenot, I'm using that to report the errors to the console.. my question is: I want to be able to extract the original MathML text from the nodes so I can provide some more contextual information to the user.
- # [01:48] <raymond> I've looked over the attributes & methods provided by nsINode, and nsIDocument.. but nothing there jumps out at me as "this is how you retrieve the original markup of this node."
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- # [01:50] <padenot> I was under the impression that we discard the code after the parsing
- # [01:52] <raymond> Hmm.. I suppose I could use the DOM information to rebuild the markup, modulo some whitespace.
- # [01:52] <padenot> raymond: then the line and column will be wrong, no ?
- # [01:53] <raymond> padenot, right..
- # [01:54] <padenot> raymond: for audio and video tags (which is what I know, we just mention the attribute and the tag that is misused
- # [01:54] <raymond> padenot, have you ever run into a case where multiple errors are produced for the same tag?
- # [01:54] <padenot> raymond: not sure, let me check real quick
- # [01:55] <raymond> That's my issue.. and it appears to be unavoidable from the way the parsing of MathML works.
- # [01:56] <raymond> So, I was thinking of providing the source line # and column # as a way to communicate to the user. I was wondering if anyone had run into a similar situation and solved it somehow. :)
- # [01:56] <padenot> it appears that we |return| when we encounter an error
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- # [02:05] <raymond> padenot: hmm.. maybe I should just output the error and tag name.. it's not a show-stopper at least. :) Thanks for the help, at least now I know that the information gets discarded.
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- # [05:44] <Hughman> im using win7 aurora 15, it may be specific
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- # [08:36] <Callek> what changed in m-c to cause |/builds/slave/comm-cen-trunk-lnx/build/mailnews/compose/src/nsMsgComposeService.cpp:435:47: error: no matching function for call to ‘nsISelection::ToString(nsGetterCopies)’|
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- # [10:27] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what's the difference in practice between return a Foo* and an already_AddRefed<Foo>?
- # [10:27] <AryehGregor> s/return/returning/
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- # [10:28] <Ms2ger> If you return an already_AddRefed pointer, the caller needs to call Release()
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- # [10:30] <Ms2ger> There's two reasons to use it; first is for creator functions, to avoid handing out an object with refcount 0
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- # [10:31] <Ms2ger> Second is if you hold a ref in the function that returns it, and need a ref in the caller, to avoid a Release/AddRef pair, for speed
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- # [10:33] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, I'm wondering how much sense this makes: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762841#c6
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- # [10:37] <Ms2ger> Mm, maybe
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- # [10:48] * AryehGregor interprets that as "yes, do what the reviewer says"
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- # [10:56] <sawrubh> ehsan: ping
- # [10:57] <darktrojan> it's really a bit early for that
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- # [10:59] * AryehGregor is puzzled by the Windows failures here https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e2557cde97f9
- # [11:00] <AryehGregor> Why would they be Windows only?
- # [11:01] <darktrojan> windows is stupid
- # [11:02] <AryehGregor> Oh, hmm . . .
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- # [11:04] * darktrojan doesn't have a useful answer
- # [11:05] <AryehGregor> Apparently I made nsISelectionController::getSelection return null in lots of cases, but only on Windows?
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- # [11:06] <AryehGregor> Good thing we have tests and a try server, right?
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- # [11:07] <darktrojan> that's what it's for
- # [11:07] <Ms2ger> Callek, yes, I know about selection.toString
- # [11:07] <Callek> ?
- # [11:08] <Callek> Ms2ger: you mean you know about that bustage?
- # [11:08] <Ms2ger> Yes
- # [11:08] <Ms2ger> Bug 751785
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- # [11:11] * Ms2ger fixes
- # [11:11] <Optimizer> why do you guys hate windows so much ?
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- # [11:12] <AryehGregor> Because we're open-source hippies.
- # [11:12] <Optimizer> so you hate mac too ?
- # [11:12] <Ms2ger> And because it isn't Unix
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- # [11:13] <AryehGregor> Well, I use Linux myself, but Apple isn't the giant evil anti-open-source nemesis that Microsoft is.
- # [11:13] <AryehGregor> It may be giant, evil, and a nemesis, but at least it's not anti-open-source!
- # [11:13] <Ms2ger> Only anti-open-web :m)
- # [11:13] <Ms2ger> :)
- # [11:13] <Optimizer> thats not a reason to hate windows
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- # [11:14] <Havvy> Anti-Open-Web is far more evil than Anti-Open-Source.
- # [11:14] <AryehGregor> I dunno if they're even that. At worst they seem to be not very enthusiastically pro-open-web.
- # [11:14] <AryehGregor> I mean, they killed Flash. Maybe it was for strategic reasons on their part, but let's give them credit.
- # [11:14] <AryehGregor> Google is generally more pro-open-web than Apple, but they were big buddies with Flash on Android.
- # [11:15] <AryehGregor> s/generally/practically always/
- # [11:15] <Optimizer> but firefox works best on windows only
- # [11:15] <AryehGregor> Well, the vast majority of our users on are Windows, what do you expect.
- # [11:15] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, well, I'd say Google is pro-Google-web, more than pro-open-web
- # [11:16] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, be fair, they generally try to standardize their new techs sooner or later. Like SPDY.
- # [11:16] <AryehGregor> Sometimes more later than we'd like, but . . .
- # [11:16] <Optimizer> I still have doubts on SPDY
- # [11:16] <AryehGregor> Why?
- # [11:16] <Optimizer> that it is a small step by google to do something evil
- # [11:16] <AryehGregor> . . .
- # [11:16] <AryehGregor> How?
- # [11:17] <Optimizer> that it will lateron use SPDY for its benefit
- # [11:17] <Optimizer> :D
- # [11:17] <Havvy> It doesn't look nefarious to me.
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- # [11:17] <Optimizer> i dunno, its a hinch
- # [11:17] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, nope
- # [11:17] <Havvy> It already is using SPDY to its benefit.
- # [11:17] <Ms2ger> It's using SPDY for its own be.. that
- # [11:17] <Havvy> It's an optimization of the HTTP protocol.
- # [11:18] <Ms2ger> I'm no fan of the let's-replace-http-with-something-new part
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- # [11:18] <AryehGregor> Why?
- # [11:18] <AryehGregor> SPDY is Compatible Enough(TM) with HTTP anyway.
- # [11:19] <AryehGregor> It's more or less an extra layer stuck under it.
- # [11:19] <AryehGregor> At least last I checked.
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- # [11:19] <AryehGregor> And it's a pretty big perf win, right? So what's not to like?
- # [11:19] <Ms2ger> On something completely unrelated, https://twitter.com/bz_moz/status/211359691803078656 is fascinating
- # [11:20] <AryehGregor> What?
- # [11:20] <Optimizer> I heard that twitter's new icon was not loading up if spdy v3 was enabled
- # [11:20] * AryehGregor doesn't understand it
- # [11:20] <Havvy> Yeah..I used that knowledge today.
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- # [11:20] <AryehGregor> Oh.
- # [11:20] <AryehGregor> Hahahaha.
- # [11:20] <AryehGregor> You can have labels in JS? What are they good for?
- # [11:20] <Havvy> AryehGregor: Breaking from arbitrary for loops.
- # [11:21] <AryehGregor> http://es5.github.com/#x12.12
- # [11:21] <Havvy> (And continuing)
- # [11:21] <AryehGregor> Oh, I see.
- # [11:21] <AryehGregor> That's cool!
- # [11:24] <AryehGregor> PHP allows continue/break to take a numeric argument instead, which is maybe simpler.
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- # [11:24] <Havvy> Eh, it obscures meaning.
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- # [11:25] <AryehGregor> What's better, having a boolean variable that you check on each loop iteration?
- # [11:25] <Ms2ger> Yes :)
- # [11:25] <AryehGregor> Why?
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- # [11:39] <edmorley> good morning Ms2ger :-)
- # [11:39] <Ms2ger> Good morning :)
- # [11:39] <Ms2ger> I bet you'll like Android on m-c on this beautiful day :)
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- # [11:40] <edmorley> ooh yeah
- # [11:40] <edmorley> orange to match the fennec ICS theme
- # [11:40] <edmorley> apt
- # [11:47] <Callek> edmorley, Ms2ger, random "OMG do you know" so I have a "good" machine that properly collapses "Local Settings" in %TEMP% to "LOCALS~1" when expanded in a cmd.exe, but I have a bad VM that doesn't (though *both* do collapse "Documents and Settings" to the "DOCUM~1
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- # [11:47] <Callek> " format. any idea whatsoever in how to make it automatically work right?
- # [11:47] <Callek> or what to compare
- # [11:47] <Ms2ger> Windows?
- # [11:47] * Ms2ger punts to edmorley
- # [11:47] <Callek> (the "System Environment Variables" for the user, is identical from one to the other, fwiw)
- # [11:48] <Callek> and yea, w2k3
- # [11:48] <Callek> this is causing me grief right now
- # [11:48] * AryehGregor shakes fist at Windows https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12494045&tree=Try
- # [11:48] <Callek> ...specifically because its causing |configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.|
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- # [11:49] <edmorley> Callek: the old style 8.3 filenames can be turned off with a registry switch; presuming you hadn't done that, then I'm out of ideas, sorry
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- # [11:49] <edmorley> Callek: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007
- # [11:49] <Callek> edmorley: |fsutil behavior set disable8dot3 0| --> reboot didn't fix it
- # [11:50] <edmorley> ok
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- # [11:53] <Dagger> Callek: you'd have to recreate (or rename?) the folder for that to have any effect... but you could also do a directory listing with `dir /x` to see if Local Settings does in fact have LOCALS~1 as a short name
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- # [11:54] <Callek> Dagger++
- # [11:54] <Callek> Dagger: ok, heres my conundrum
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- # [11:55] <Callek> Dagger: any idea how to "give" them a shortname after the fact? http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/1659915
- # [11:56] <Callek> (I had copy/pasted the correct folder, with explorer at one point, probably with fsutil .. thing set to 1
- # [11:57] <Dagger> I guess you'd have to rename the folder, or create a new one and move all the files over
- # [11:57] <Dagger> might be a bit of a pain when using the system in question
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- # [11:59] <Fallen> Ms2ger: your latest push to comm-central gives me a build error using clang…
- # [11:59] <Fallen> comm-central/mailnews/compose/src/nsMsgComposeService.cpp:435:24: error: non-const lvalue reference to type 'nsAString_internal' cannot bind to a temporary of type 'nsGetterCopies'
- # [12:00] <Ms2ger> You're on trunk m-c, right?
- # [12:00] <Fallen> yes, just did a full rebuild
- # [12:01] * Ms2ger is confused
- # [12:02] <edmorley> Callek: might a rename x2 sort it?
- # [12:02] <Ms2ger> Fallen, what does the signature of ToString look like in obj/mozilla/content/base/public/_xpidlgen/nsISelection.h?
- # [12:03] <Callek> edmorley: seeming like the state is attached to the actual file/dir
- # [12:03] <Fallen> Ms2ger: NS_SCRIPTABLE NS_IMETHOD ToString(nsAString & _retval NS_OUTPARAM) = 0;
- # [12:03] <Callek> so I'm seeing if/how I can correct that
- # [12:04] <edmorley> :-(
- # [12:04] <Ms2ger> Fallen, so this should work, right?
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- # [12:08] * Callek forces a restart, since I can't delete the profile dir due to a locked file [of course I disabled autologin first]
- # [12:10] * Fallen is not sure. Trying out things
- # [12:13] <Callek> Dagger: what country do you live in by the way?
- # [12:13] <Dagger> UK
- # [12:14] <Callek> Dagger: if this works, want a SeaMonkey shirt that I pay for
- # [12:14] <Callek> you just saved me probably 6 hours of frustration
- # [12:14] <Callek> :-)
- # [12:14] <Callek> (give or take)
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- # [12:15] <Fallen> Ms2ger: In other examples I see for example: PRUnichar * *_retval NS_OUTPARA
- # [12:15] <Fallen> M
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- # [12:16] <Callek> Dagger: AWESOME it works!
- # [12:17] <Fallen> of course thats not a DOMString
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- # [12:20] <Callek> Dagger: so.... about that shirt, if you want one pick one out from http://www.zazzle.com/seamonkeyproject/clothing and then e-mail me your address (say you're Dagger from IRC) at Callek@gmail.com and I'll order it
- # [12:21] <Callek> simple answer, but sooo increadibly helpful!
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- # [12:21] <Callek> Fallen, Ms2ger: p.s. thanks for looking into that nsISelection bustage ;-)
- # [12:21] <Dagger> Callek: I'd feel kinda bad accepting that... I'd have had no clue if edmorley hadn't mentioned 8.3 filenames
- # [12:21] <Callek> Dagger: heh I was about to mention the fsutil comment right about the time he said that ;-)
- # [12:22] <Callek> Dagger: but if you want to defer the shirt to edmorley I won't argue, *someone* deserves me buying a shirt for getting this figured out
- # [12:22] <Callek> in-fact maybe even nthomas for first suggesting that in another chan ;-)
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- # [12:22] <Callek> (though if nick wants one, might be easier for me to just ship one to me, and hand to him end-of-july)
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- # [12:31] <Fallen> Ms2ger: it compiles if you just drop getter_Copies
- # [12:31] <Fallen> not sure if its right w.r.t memory management thoug
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- # [12:33] <Ms2ger> Fallen, eh
- # [12:33] <Ms2ger> Fallen, https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/1608d7734acb
- # [12:34] <Fallen> Ms2ger: thanks :)
- # [12:35] <Ms2ger> (That was the push from before that you blamed for the bustage, btw ;))
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- # [12:37] <Ms2ger> Callek, np, it was my bug that broke you, as usual :)
- # [12:38] <Callek> Ms2ger: well there are still some bustages lingering, there is one due to ambiguity in namespaces breaking MSVC8 atm too
- # [12:39] <Ms2ger> Hmm, I thought that was fixed already
- # [12:40] <Callek> Ms2ger: not afaik
- # [12:40] <Callek> I know there was a patch for it, but bent thought it was "ugly" and basically wanted a different patch
- # [12:40] <Ms2ger> I thought bent was fine with the ugly...
- # [12:40] <Callek> Ms2ger: 761635
- # [12:41] <Callek> Ms2ger: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761635#c2
- # [12:41] * Ms2ger goes off to lunch
- # [12:41] <Callek> Ms2ger: of course, I was meaning to test ben's wanted fix before I headed to sleep (which I'm about to do now) but at this point I'm too tired
- # [12:42] <Callek> Ms2ger: if you have a chance/want to test it with MSVC8, you can have my rs+ to land on m-c as "bustage fix" and I'll handle bent's final nits ;-)
- # [12:42] <Callek> s/nits/rants-at-landing-with-my-review (if necessary)/
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- # [13:00] <Ms2ger> Because everyone and their dog includes it ::
- # [13:00] <Ms2ger> :/
- # [13:00] <AryehGregor> Or are results of iteration undefined if the tree changes or something like that?
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- # [13:08] <Callek> (concrete itself seemed to go down, -- but gravel was up)
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- # [13:41] <Fallen> Hmm what version of Xcode do I need? The Thunderbird build page says I need 3.2.6, the latest version is 4.3.2
- # [13:41] <Fallen> can I install 4.3.2
- # [13:41] <Fallen> ?
- # [13:41] <AryehGregor> ehsan, is there any sane way for nsEditor::GetSelection() to fail? If we could make it infallible, it would remove a huge number of error codepaths . . .
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- # [13:59] <NeilAway> ok, so what do I do when tbpl stops showing my build (even when using the right &rev)?
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- # [14:08] <AryehGregor> Okay, so what's the actual point of the index cache in nsContentIterator? What does it speed up?
- # [14:08] * AryehGregor isn't sure exactly what order nsContentSubtreeIterator is supposed to be returning stuff in anyway
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- # [14:09] * AryehGregor should probably figure that out :)
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- # [14:11] <AryehGregor> NeilAway, tbpl seems not to be working properly for me either. It hangs.
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- # [14:14] <sawrubh> firewolfbot: pbngen
- # [14:15] <firewolfbot> sawrubh: Sorry, I've no idea what 'pbngen' might be.
- # [14:16] <sawrubh> firewolfbot: pbngen bugs
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- # [14:28] <zzzzz_> Looks like Linux Nightly's are burning
- # [14:28] <zzzzz_> ooops, nm someone has started them
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- # [14:31] <NeilAway> oops, linux fail
- # [14:31] <NeilAway> (it just locked my screen as I was using it...)
- # [14:33] <AryehGregor> Why would nsEditor hold only a weak ref to its nsISelectionController?
- # [14:34] <AryehGregor> Oh, never mind.
- # [14:34] <AryehGregor> Irrelevant for my purposes.
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- # [14:38] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: where are all the guys with the badges(stars :P)
- # [14:38] <RattyAway> Hi! Does anyone recognize what this build error means?
- # [14:38] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
- # [14:38] <RattyAway> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1659944
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- # [14:40] <Ms2ger> edmorley? :)
- # [14:41] <edmorley> hmmm?
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- # [14:43] <Ms2ger> Ever seen /usr/bin/sh: line 0: fg: no job control?
- # [14:43] <Ms2ger> Also, sounds like you're out of luck for this test :)
- # [14:45] <edmorley> that that I remember
- # [14:45] * edmorley pokes mozilla memes to see if any new memes fall out
- # [14:45] <Ms2ger> Nope :(
- # [14:46] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what's supposed to happen to an nsEditor object if its mDocWeak goes away?
- # [14:46] <Ms2ger> Nothing, I think, why?
- # [14:47] <AryehGregor> What use it is with no document?
- # [14:48] <Ms2ger> Not much, I guess, but you can't really delete it if people are still holding pointers to it
- # [14:49] <AryehGregor> Why doesn't it keep a strong reference?
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- # [14:51] <Ms2ger> 1.67 <jfrancis@netscape.com> 1999-08-25 03:51
- # [14:51] <Ms2ger> making nsPresShell and nsDocument support weak references; using weak references to docs and pres shells within the editor
- # [14:51] <Ms2ger> That was a very helpful commit message, jfrancis
- # [14:52] <AryehGregor> It would be nice if the document and PresShell would always be there. Then GetSelection() would be infallible.
- # [14:52] <AryehGregor> Which would save a massive amount of error handling.
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- # [14:55] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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- # [15:05] <daleharvey> firefox doesnt get a menubar etc
- # [15:05] <NeilAway> bah, 210 test runs and no orange
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- # [15:06] <NeilAway> daleharvey: you need to run the app package, not the executable
- # [15:07] * NeilAway can't remember the techincal term for it
- # [15:07] <daleharvey> that is strange, because I am sure I use to use the executable, but that works perfectly, cheers
- # [15:08] <daleharvey> the same issue was brought up with the b2g executable vs .app, I may just have amnesia
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- # [16:13] <GPHemsley> Does anyone have any idea why updating my Netflix queue would cause the entire browser to enter a state where it looks like it's usable but in fact is entirely stuck?
- # [16:14] <GPHemsley> I don't even know how to describe it... everything seems to work (context menus, cursors, etc.), but actually clicking on things doesn't do anything
- # [16:14] <GPHemsley> The Netflix tab is just stuck with a loading favicon, even though no loading is actually going on
- # [16:14] <GPHemsley> it's not a regular hang, AFAICT
- # [16:15] <GPHemsley> and I noticed that all tabs suddenly have the same hover text, that of the Netflix tab
- # [16:15] <GPHemsley> and it's not necessarily reproduceable—I've updated my Netflix many times in between the two occurrences of this strange event
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- # [17:41] <Ms2ger``> http://status.mozilla.com/ isn't looking good lately
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- # [17:46] <zzzzz_> Ms2ger``: its been looking bad all morning - nightly's have failed twice for what appears to be infra problems - failed to upload
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- # [18:08] <vvas> amusing and/or depressing: i clicked on the BrowserID "Sign in" button on bugzilla and got "We are sorry, but currently your browser is not supported." and i'm running firefox 13...
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- # [18:17] <smaug> vvas: that is odd
- # [18:18] <smaug> file a bug
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- # [18:29] <vvas> hm, under which product is it?
- # [18:30] <vvas> i thought it'd be under mozilla services, but apparently not
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- # [18:31] <vvas> Mozilla Labs -> Identity ?
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- # [18:37] <Ms2ger> vvas, I think that probably works
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- # [18:39] <dveditz> where is nickserv/chanserv?
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- # [18:42] <Ms2ger> Down, apparently
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- # [19:23] <Ms2ger> khuey, what makes you think I compile stuff? :)
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- # [19:34] <Ms2ger> Looks like bugmail is coming in again
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- # [19:46] <Ms2ger> mounir, nice to see you on forms again :)
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- # [19:52] <Bas> This is weird, somehow something in my -own- nightly build objdir keeps re-creating libGLESv2.dll :s
- # [19:52] <Bas> I have no idea what's going on.
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- # [19:56] <Bas> WTF? GoogleUpdater.exe, whatever it is, keeps restoring libGLESv2.dll apparently..
- # [19:57] <Ms2ger> It updates your googles
- # [19:58] <Bas> Ugh, all this google mal/spyware, man.
- # [19:58] <Ms2ger> We'd call it "silent update" :)
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- # [19:58] <Bas> Ms2ger: I don't even have google software installed, pretty amazing. Must be some leftover from some chrome nightly build
- # [19:59] <glandium> Bas: it restores it in your objdir ?
- # [20:00] <Bas> glandium: Yes, for some mysterious reason, it did.
- # [20:00] <glandium> Bas: that's quite outrageous
- # [20:01] <Bas> Indeed, I am somewhat perplexed.
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- # [20:05] <Ms2ger> added 4627 changesets with 39119 changes to 22328 files
- # [20:05] <RyanVM> that sounds good
- # [20:06] <smaug> what is nsIDOMUSSDReceivedEvent o_O
- # [20:06] * NeilAway thwaps TBPL
- # [20:06] * Ms2ger is going to enjoy that merge
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- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> smaug, > mounir
- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, thanks for noting that bustage fix in the bug, I forgot
- # [20:07] <Bas> ms2ger: I guess that includes the license boilerplate update? :P
- # [20:07] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: Thanks for fixing it!
- # [20:07] <RyanVM> I retriggered the nightlies too
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- # [20:07] <smaug> could we please stop adding this insane almost-DOM-event-like event interfaces
- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> Np
- # [20:07] <Bas> Otherwise an average of ~10 hunks per changeset seems a little high :)
- # [20:08] <smaug> oh, hmm
- # [20:08] <smaug> perhaps this is a real event
- # [20:08] <Ms2ger> Yeah, it does
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- # [20:09] <smaug> can I still cry
- # [20:10] <Bas> glandium: I wonder if we have some process called GoogleUpdater in our nightlies? Sounds unlikely.
- # [20:10] <glandium> Bas: we obviously don't
- # [20:10] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: were you going to re-trigger the other m-c nightlies since apparently Linux worked?
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- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Bye again, concrete
- # [20:11] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: how are you changing so many files ? Are you upgrading to MPL2 or what ?
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- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> About two months of updates, apparently
- # [20:12] * sawrubh wonders what is happening to the irc, guess it's on a holiday too
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- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> Hi again
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- # [20:13] <sawrubh> :)
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- # [20:13] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'Everything is down, Bug 763293 || Next uplift for Fx16: 2012-07-16 || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
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- # [20:13] <RyanVM> woah
- # [20:14] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, you missed the 200 people quitting earlier? :)
- # [20:14] <RyanVM> apparently
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- # [20:14] <JonathanS> Ms2ger, I had "Socket closed by remote peer"
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- # [20:14] <RyanVM> anyway, want to re-trigger the other nightlies?
- # [20:14] <Ms2ger> Looking
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- # [20:15] <Ms2ger> JonathanS, I guess you're connected to concrete.m.o?
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- # [20:16] <JonathanS> Ms2ger, Yeah
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- # [20:16] <GPHemsley> oh, netsplits are fun! :)
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- # [20:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, done
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- # [20:18] <sawrubh> gravel.m.o ++
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- # [20:21] <sawrubh> hey my BrowserQuest character is lost, I've to start all over again :(
- # [20:21] * sawrubh wonders if he can file a bug for this ;)
- # [20:22] <ferjm> smaug: ping
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- # [20:23] <smaug> ferjm: pong
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- # [20:23] <ferjm> smaug: hi! :) what's the problem with Bug 734145 events ?
- # [20:24] <ferjm> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734145
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- # [20:24] <Ms2ger> And there are the services again
- # [20:24] <smaug> ferjm: usually you create events (in C++) using something like NS_NewDOMEvent
- # [20:24] <smaug> ferjm: also, events should have nowadays constructors
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- # [20:25] <smaug> so in JS one can do: var e = new Event("foo", { bubbles: false});
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- # [20:26] <smaug> ferjm: it is also odd to add dispatching code to the event class
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- # [20:28] <ferjm> smaug: hmm ok, it was my first DOMEvent creating. I took this as an example https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/dc410944aabc/dom/telephony/CallEvent.h
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- # [20:28] <smaug> ferjm: I'd look at content/events for examples
- # [20:29] <ferjm> smaug: I could file a follow-up bug to change the event code
- # [20:29] <smaug> ferjm: uh, I wasn't aware of CallEvent
- # [20:29] <ferjm> smaug: ok, thanks. I'll look for examples there
- # [20:30] <smaug> ahaa, I can blame bent :)
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- # [20:34] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: ping
- # [20:34] <Ms2ger> Yes?
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- # [20:34] <sawrubh> is this stuck https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280277 ?
- # [20:34] <ma1> does anybody know what the "::" stands for in <script>function::["top"]</script>?
- # [20:36] <Ms2ger> Hmm, let me have a look
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- # [20:38] <Ms2ger> sawrubh, let me comment on the bug
- # [20:39] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: ok
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- # [20:43] <Ms2ger> sawrubh, commented, I think it shouldn't be too hard
- # [20:44] <jcranmer> ma1: that's some e4x thing
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- # [20:44] <ma1> jcranmer: I suspected that. Wasn't e4x slated for removal, in content at least?
- # [20:46] <Ms2ger> Sorta
- # [20:46] <Ms2ger> Whether we'll get away with that is not entirely clear
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- # [20:50] <Jesse> e4x is now controlled by a pref: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753885
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- # [20:53] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: will you be around for some time. I might have some doubts so might need to ask.
- # [20:54] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: plus, should I continue from jwatt's patch or start from scratch
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- # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Most of jwatt's patch is introducing the new interface, but you don't need to do that
- # [20:55] <Ms2ger> So I don't think you'll be able to reuse much
- # [20:57] <Fallen> You guys already broke e4x effectively with cpg landing ;-)
- # [20:57] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: can you tell me one thing, what is meant by frozen interfaces ?
- # [20:58] <Ms2ger> An interface we promised not to change, to make life easier for extension developers
- # [20:58] <Ms2ger> We gave up on that in the Firefox 4 cycle
- # [20:58] <Ms2ger> (It turned out to make life harder for us in return)
- # [20:59] <Ms2ger> Bah, I bet gabor broke BSD
- # [20:59] <jcranmer> ma1: that's the plan
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- # [21:00] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e011e0440daf - Olli Pettay - Bug 761613 - Merge nsIPrivateDOMEvent to nsIDOMEvent, r=jst
- # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Ehehehe
- # [21:00] <Ms2ger> smaug, do you have a c-c tree ready? :)
- # [21:01] <smaug> nope
- # [21:03] <Ms2ger> Hmm, actually, it doesn't seem like c-c uses nsIPrivateDOMEvent
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- # [21:05] <Ms2ger> smaug, any chance I could get you to rs this? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1660071
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- # [22:09] <NeilAway> honestly, I don't know how you guys manage
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- # [22:11] <mounir> NeilAway: with?
- # [22:11] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/470130288d35 - L. David Baron - Fix source of slight test variation. (Bug 759755, patch 1)
- # [22:11] <mounir> smaug: I've heard you are a docshell guy :)
- # [22:11] <firewolfbot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/679e4b464c10 - L. David Baron - Make svg:foreignObject be considered a constrained height (now that I'm thinking about them). (Bug 759755, patch 4) r=roc
- # [22:11] <firewolfbot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/753567e35350 - L. David Baron - Do the necessary reflow when our font inflation data changes. (Bug 759755, patch 2) r=roc
- # [22:11] <@smaug> mounir: uh uh
- # [22:11] <firewolfbot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/876d3ce8a630 - L. David Baron - Properly dirty intrinsic widths when doing things that change inflation. (Bug 759755, patch 3) r=roc
- # [22:11] <NeilAway> mounir: well, it's totally keyboard inaccessible
- # [22:12] <mounir> NeilAway: there are a few shortcuts
- # [22:12] <mounir> enough for me except that I would love '+' to retrigger a build
- # [22:12] <mounir> smaug: yesterday, I was trying to find out where a document's docshell was created when not in an iframe
- # [22:12] <NeilAway> mounir: ok, so I need one key to get the next 10 pushes (because my push is way back, I'm only watching it to endlessly retrigger tests in the hope of seeing my randomorange on try rather than on m-i)
- # [22:13] <mounir> like if I load "http://mozilla.org", I need a docshell for that document, right?
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- # [22:13] <NeilAway> mounir: then I need one key to switch between build platforms and another key to retrigger them
- # [22:13] <mounir> NeilAway: you should get the rev url of your push
- # [22:13] <mounir> a key to retrigger is definitely a need
- # [22:13] <NeilAway> mounir: doesn't work, just gives me a blank list
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- # [22:14] <@smaug> mounir: so, the only case in FF is the top level document
- # [22:14] <@smaug> top level chrome document
- # [22:14] <@smaug> mounir: all the rest go through browser/iframe/etc
- # [22:14] <NeilAway> smaug: web shell window creates it in that case?
- # [22:14] <mounir> smaug: so if I load "http://mozilla.org" in a tab, it will create a docshell from nsFrameLoader?
- # [22:15] <@smaug> mounir: yes, frameloader creates the docshell
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- # [22:15] <mounir> but my breakpoint is never triggered for non-frames
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- # [22:15] <mounir> I guess I should double-check that
- # [22:16] <@smaug> yup
- # [22:17] <@smaug> mounir: or are you talking about b2g and top level content process page?
- # [22:17] <mounir> I was testing on Firefox
- # [22:18] <@smaug> mounir: ok, in FF it is frameloader
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- # [22:21] <capella> Pulled from nightly just now - and doing a clobber rebuild, getting WebGLRenderingContext.webidl TestCodeGen.webidl' failed, return code 1 TestCodeGen.webidl errors
- # [22:21] <capella> anyone else seen / report this? zaroo on bugzilla http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1660097
- # [22:22] <@smaug> mounir: in e10s http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/embedding/browser/webBrowser/nsWebBrowser.cpp#1128
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- # [22:23] <@smaug> mounir: and yes, NeilAway remembered right, the top most chrome docshell http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpfe/appshell/src/nsWebShellWindow.cpp#181
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- # [22:41] <mounir> sorry for the delay...
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- # [22:42] <mounir> smaug: I have a breakpoint in nsFrameLoader::MaybeCreateDocshell
- # [22:42] <mounir> and this is not called if I refresh a basic webpage
- # [22:43] <@smaug> refresh?
- # [22:43] <@smaug> reloading doesn't create a new docshell
- # [22:43] <mounir> CTRL+R or CTRL+SHIFT+R or even re-creating the page
- # [22:44] <@smaug> open a new tab
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- # [22:45] <mounir> smaug: and the docshell is created when I create the tab
- # [22:45] <mounir> I guess it is updated when loading inside it
- # [22:45] <@smaug> yes
- # [22:45] <@smaug> right
- # [22:45] <mounir> interesting
- # [22:45] <mounir> my entire design is proven to be broken :D
- # [22:45] <@smaug> when the first page is loaded to an iframe/browser/etc, docshell is created
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- # [22:46] * @smaug wonders what mounir has been "designing" :p
- # [22:46] <mounir> conquest of the world
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- # [22:47] <@smaug> You French still try to do that?
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- # [22:48] <mounir> we are missing Napoleon so much, you can't imagine :(
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- # [22:50] <@smaug> mounir: so, if you need something which gets re-created when reloading, try inner window
- # [22:50] <@smaug> or just the document itself
- # [22:50] <mounir> smaug: wouldn't plugging into LoadURI work?
- # [22:51] <@smaug> possibly
- # [22:51] <@smaug> I still don't know how you're going to use Gecko to conquest of the world
- # [22:52] <mounir> smaug: we are going to add a way to put some stuff is jars/silos like cookies, indexedb, etc
- # [22:52] <mounir> so they can't be accessed by different apps
- # [22:52] <mounir> those things need identifier that would be more complex than simply the origin
- # [22:53] <mounir> (for the moment, that would be the origin and the app manifest url)
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- # [22:54] <@smaug> couldn't you somehow hack jar: protocol ?
- # [22:54] <mounir> jar: ?
- # [22:54] <@smaug> or add a new similar protocol
- # [22:55] <mounir> hmm, i'm not sure I understand the link
- # [22:55] <mounir> that would simply be an identifier that would replace the origin for some stuff like cookies, indexeddb, etc.
- # [22:55] <mounir> the identifier would be carried by the docshell and the principal
- # [22:56] * @smaug doesn't understand
- # [22:56] <@smaug> what identifier
- # [22:56] <@smaug> how would you use the id?
- # [22:57] <mounir> we would change the backends
- # [22:57] * @smaug doesn't know for what this all is
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- # [22:57] <@smaug> webapps?
- # [22:58] <@smaug> b2g?
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- # [22:58] <@smaug> perhaps I shouldn't even ask :)
- # [22:59] <mounir> that would be for apps
- # [22:59] <mounir> otherwise APP A would be logged to facebook if APP B is logged to facebook
- # [22:59] <@smaug> I don't understand how
- # [23:00] <@smaug> webapps use separate profiles
- # [23:00] <mounir> smaug: not on b2g
- # [23:00] <@smaug> I guess you mean b2g app
- # [23:00] <mounir> those are still b2g apps ;)
- # [23:00] <mounir> s/b2g apps/web apps/
- # [23:00] <@smaug> but there is the separate webapps thing in mozilla
- # [23:01] <mounir> ?
- # [23:01] <@smaug> I mean OWA
- # [23:01] <@smaug> perhaps b2g apps are something similar
- # [23:01] <@smaug> or same?
- # [23:02] <Yoric> Reminds me of bug 737403.
- # [23:02] <NeilAway> bah, what sort of language has true != "true"
- # [23:02] <@smaug> couldn't b2g apps have separate profiles ?
- # [23:02] <Yoric> Well, anyway, time to call this a night.
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- # [23:02] * @smaug knows very little about b2g
- # [23:03] <Mook> NeilAway: C ;)
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- # [23:05] <mounir> smaug: hmm, with OOP, maybe... I don't know the details regarding this
- # [23:05] * @smaug is a bit worried. b2g should be using OOP all the time, but apparently it isn't
- # [23:05] <mounir> but AFAIK, on desktop, apps are launched from different profiles because they are some kind of standalone, right?
- # [23:05] <@smaug> mounir: yes, webapps are separate things
- # [23:06] <mounir> smaug: it should be using OOP or will be
- # [23:06] <Callek> heh stupid mozilla build system
- # [23:06] <Callek> for i in `hg -R ../../sources/comm-central/mozilla stat --all | grep -v "^C" | grep -v "^?"`; do if [ "$i" != "I" ]; then rm -vf /d/sources/comm-central/mozilla/$i; fi; done
- # [23:06] <@smaug> what "will be" is the worrisome part
- # [23:06] <Callek> made me do that
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- # [23:07] <mounir> smaug: I'm not directly working on b2g, I don't know where they are on everything
- # [23:07] <@smaug> mounir: I believe there will be 3 levels processes, least when browser app is used. But things like message manager hasn't been designed for that
- # [23:07] <mounir> smaug: that's what I've heard too
- # [23:07] <@smaug> but hopefully someone will fix it when needed
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- # [23:08] <@smaug> though, perhaps the mm which jlebar|away added is enough
- # [23:08] <mounir> smaug: is it technically doable to use another profile with OOP?
- # [23:08] <mounir> seems weird
- # [23:09] <@smaug> mounir: content process wouldn't use another profile, but we could add a different type of child process
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- # [23:11] <mounir> I think it's too late on a Sunday for me to think about that
- # [23:12] <Callek> who wants to take bets on when we'll exhaust PGO RAM space on w64 btw
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- # [23:14] * Mook is thinking middle of 2013
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- # [23:17] <NeilAway> Callek: wtf is that for loop?
- # [23:17] <Callek> NeilAway: its how I cleaned my egg-info, and .pyc crap from my source tree
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- # [23:17] <NeilAway> Callek: there are better ways
- # [23:17] <Callek> NeilAway: since I got build errors again from .pyc being there
- # [23:18] <Callek> NeilAway: possibly, that was just the fastest
- # [23:18] <Callek> (that I could find)
- # [23:18] <NeilAway> Callek: that's the slowest, actually
- # [23:18] <Mook> hg status --ignored | xargs -d '\n' -i@ rm @ ?
- # [23:18] <Callek> Mook: is it really that easy? ;-) /me chuckles
- # [23:19] <NeilAway> Callek: no, it's even easier than that
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- # [23:19] <Callek> well it was the fastest from "I see the problem"->"problem gone" that I could find
- # [23:19] <NeilAway> hg stat -in | xargs rm
- # [23:19] <Callek> as in, I didn't want to hunt :-)
- # [23:19] <Mook> that would be "re-clone the tree" XD
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- # [23:19] <Callek> Mook: re-clone would have been easiest, not fastest ;-)
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- # [23:27] <Callek> ...anyone seen this error: http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/1660128
- # [23:28] <Callek> (it looks new)
- # [23:28] <capella> yes - i did
- # [23:29] <Callek> capella: any luck figuring it out, and what product are you building?
- # [23:29] <Callek> capella: ah-ha: Bug 763212
- # [23:29] <capella> nope - building FF nightly on a WIN7 machine ... been working fine till I pulled today
- # [23:29] * Callek resorts to slow-make for the time being
- # [23:29] <capella> cool!
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- # [23:30] <Callek> capella: see workaround https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763212#c5
- # [23:30] * Callek tries that
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- # [23:31] <capella> let me know if that works ... ill need to ask for more explicit directions unless I can grok it here
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- # [23:34] <Callek> capella: ok, afaict it worked for me
- # [23:34] <Callek> capella: with your current-working-directory in your objectdir base
- # [23:34] <Callek> |cd dom| |make|
- # [23:34] <Callek> *this will fail* but it does get you past the error
- # [23:35] <Callek> then you cd back out and re-run pymake
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- # [23:37] <cpearce> What version of the Visual C++ RunTime do we ship Firefox with on Windows?
- # [23:37] <capella> ummm .... WIN , using python build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk
- # [23:37] <Callek> cpearce: MSVC2010's runtime, why
- # [23:38] <Callek> cpearce: for ESR we ship with MSVC2005's (MSVC8)'s runtime
- # [23:39] <Callek> cpearce: and we do *not* ship the debug version, due to legal restrictions, even in our debug builds
- # [23:39] <cpearce> Callek: gstreamer for windows recommends removing the dependency on MSVCRT, and linking against the one which shipped on WinXP and every windows version since.
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- # [23:39] <Callek> ummmm...... that sounds dangerous/bad
- # [23:39] <cpearce> I'm just wondering if that would be a problem, if we were to ship gstreamer on windows that is.
- # [23:40] <cpearce> that was my gut reaction too....
- # [23:40] <Callek> but yea, I'm not the one to make the call/decision there
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- # [23:40] <Callek> cpearce: especially, since -- iirc the WinXP "shipped" one was VC6
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- # [23:42] <Callek> cpearce: without knowing why gstreamer recommends it -- it might be because not everyone likes to bundle a MSVC CRT in with their binaries, instead expecting/hoping the user will already have it
- # [23:42] <Callek> and of course if you link gstreamer with a CRT thats not existent, things will fail ;-)
- # [23:42] <capella> callek: | make | just like that? all by itself? doesnt seem right ... says no targets specified ...
- # [23:42] <cpearce> Callek: they don't say why, other than saying that GStreamer links against the "basic" C runtime, and that if your app links against another you'll get problems.
- # [23:43] <cpearce> Callek: http://docs.gstreamer.com/display/GstSDK/Installing+on+Windows
- # [23:43] <Callek> capella: if your current directory is inside your *object* directory, yes
- # [23:43] <capella> oooops .... cd'd into mozilla-central/dom
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- # [23:44] <Mook> the CRT shipped with windows is basically a fork (with constant merges back and forth) of the MSVC one; IIRC, win7 is ~= vc2010 or something?
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- # [23:45] <Mook> it's got more things than older versions, at least. but all in a backwards-compatible way.
- # [23:45] <Callek> cpearce: ahhh given that wording I agree that it can be a problem -- |Furthermore, GStreamer itself is built using a “basic” C runtime which comes in every Windows system since Windows XP, and is named MSVCRT.DLL. If your application and GStreamer do not use the same C Runtime, problems are bound to crop out.|
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- # [23:45] <Callek> cpearce: basically if THEY built the gstreamer binaries, and we use them wholesale, and mix-and-match CRT bad things can happen
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- # [23:45] <Callek> cpearce: but if *we* build the gstreamer runtime files with the same CRT we build with, things *should* be fine, aiui
- # [23:45] * Mook suspects the main problems are still just making sure to use the right allocators
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- # [23:46] <Callek> Mook: sure, but you don't want to have, say, MSVCRT.dll alloc get scope-polluted against what we think is the VC2010 alloc ;-)
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- # [23:47] <Callek> or to have a MSVC2010 memory function get corrupt because it ends up trying to use a function pointer from the MSVCRT dll
- # [23:47] <cpearce> We may need patent licenses to build GStreamer ourselves, have to investigate. Maybe Collabora can build us a version linked against MSVCRT2010.
- # [23:47] <Mook> I don't think dynamic linking works like that - pretty sure imports are solved with library name at that point.
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- # [23:48] <Mook> cpearce: I suspect patent licenses are involved with _shipping_ things, in practice. doesn't matter who builds them.
- # [23:48] <Callek> cpearce: yea, the *safest* approach is if we have a version linked against MSVC2010 imo
- # [23:48] <Mook> (collabra might have nice blanket licenses they can hook people up with, thoughl dunno)
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- # [23:49] <Callek> cpearce: of course, I'd note that if we want local devs to be able to build with gstreamer enabled, this will have to be public binaries of it, in the way we use it, imo.
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- # [23:49] * Callek would hate to patent encumber our local devs, even TALKBACK was a major pain point, and local devs didn't even need it to feature-parity for themselves
- # [23:49] <Callek> :-)
- # [23:50] <Mook> and if local devs can't build with it enabled, tbpl is going to be all sorts of fun? :D
- # [23:50] <capella> callek: cd'd to mozilla-central/obj/dom .... did make ... cd'd back to mozilla-central .... re-started with python build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk as usual, same result ... can you see what I may have missed / did wrong?
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- # [23:51] <Callek> capella: hrm not sure (I just got another error myself, so not sure yet)
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- # [23:52] <capella> callek: yah and when I did the make command it suggested i do c:/Users/Master/mozilla-central/build/pymake/make.py instead
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- # [23:52] <capella> which im trying now
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- # [23:52] <Callek> capella: ahhh that means (likely) that your setup *requires* pymake
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- # [23:52] <Callek> that won't fix you here then :(
- # [23:52] <capella> so no workaround?...
- # [23:52] <capella> oic
- # [23:53] <capella> guess ill ++ the bug
- # [23:54] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f6242d0169f0 - Olli Pettay - Bug 763014 - crash in PresShell::HandleEventInternal, r=mats
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- # [23:59] <Callek> but either way, it won't help you :(
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- # [23:59] <capella> DOH
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