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7. # [00:01] <prazuber> So how can I actually test this embedding code?
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98. # [01:13] <@dolske> random wish:
99. # [01:13] <@dolske> when I push to try, it would be nice if the console output gave me a tbpl link for my push
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101. # [01:14] <@bsmedberg> dolske: instead of the email?
102. # [01:14] <@dolske> or in addition to.
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104. # [01:14] <jhammel> i thought there was a thing that someone did that put the changeset url on the console
105. # [01:14] <jhammel> which could be used to get the tbpl link
106. # [01:14] <@dolske> seems like it should be simple, it's just static url + changeset
107. # [01:14] <jhammel> or was going to do or something
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109. # [01:15] <@dbaron> dolske, I bet you could write a client-side hook to do that
110. # [01:16] <@ted> dolske: there's a bug for that
111. # [01:16] <@ted> it's just waiting on deployment to hg.mo
112. # [01:16] <@ted> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663585
113. # [01:16] <@bsmedberg> is it possible to use SVG images with border-image?
114. # [01:16] <@ted> probably doesn't give you tbpl
115. # [01:16] <@ted> but that'd be easy to fix
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117. # [01:18] <@dolske> dbaron: sure, would be nice to do globally
118. # [01:18] <@dolske> especially for noobs starting out with Try
119. # [01:18] <espindola> ted, ping
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121. # [01:18] <@ted> espindola: pong
122. # [01:18] <@ted> dolske: file a follow-up?
123. # [01:18] <@ted> or just fix the hook?
124. # [01:18] <espindola> ted, is there some documentation on which callbacks breakpad provides?
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127. # [01:19] <@dolske> ted: how about I file and you fix? ;)
128. # [01:19] <espindola> which one you think we can use to disable write poisoning during a crash?
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130. # [01:19] <@ted> dolske: unlikely!
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133. # [01:20] <@ted> but maybe graeme will fix it
134. # [01:20] <@ted> espindola: there's documentation in the source
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136. # [01:20] <@ted> espindola: 1 sec i'll find it
137. # [01:20] <@ted> espindola: sorry, been busy all weekend and then travelling and in meetings
138. # [01:20] <@ted> didn't get a chance to find that for you
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145. # [01:24] * @dolske submits bug 764207, for those playing along at home.
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148. # [01:25] <jhammel> bugzilla! the (japanese?) game show!
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166. # [01:34] <@ted> espindola: sorry, phone call
167. # [01:34] <@ted> argh
168. # [01:34] <@ted> espindola: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/client/mac/handler/exception_handler.h#54
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170. # [01:34] <@ted> also http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/client/mac/handler/exception_handler.h#86
171. # [01:35] <@ted> so that constructor lets you pass both a FilterCallback (called before the minidump is written) and a MinidumpCallback (called after the minidump is written)
172. # [01:35] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/nsExceptionHandler.cpp#789
173. # [01:35] <@ted> is where we instantiate the ExceptionHandler
174. # [01:36] <espindola> ted, cool, thanks
175. # [01:36] <espindola> Will give it a try
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177. # [01:38] <mattwoodrow> dholbert: Tried your reftest bug with DLBI, both tests pass
178. # [01:38] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, ok, good to know. OS X 64?
179. # [01:38] <mattwoodrow> yep
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181. # [01:39] <mattwoodrow> might be a bad thing, since its clearly not testing the overflow rects any more
182. # [01:39] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, wait... "pass"? yeah :)
183. # [01:39] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, they're both expected to _fail_
184. # [01:40] <mattwoodrow> DLBI is invalidating based on nsDisplayItems, not frames overflow rects
185. # [01:40] <mattwoodrow> so your 'break' does nothing to it
186. # [01:40] <dholbert> ah interesting
187. # [01:40] <dholbert> gotcha
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189. # [01:41] <mattwoodrow> but at least the rects that show up in the verbose log look correct with DLBI
190. # [01:41] <mattwoodrow> 0,0,800,1000 is only once each time
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192. # [01:42] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, ah, good
193. # [01:42] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, so DLBI may fix this
194. # [01:42] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, though...
195. # [01:43] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, I got expected results (both tests fail) on the 2 OS X platforms that have finished on a try run
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197. # [01:43] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, so mac might just be unaffected by this
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199. # [01:43] <mattwoodrow> if you want to test overflow rects you should try putting the frame offscreen, with the children on-screen
200. # [01:43] <dholbert> mattwoodrow, I got 'actual results' (1 test passes, incorrectly) on linux64
201. # [01:43] <mattwoodrow> or write a mochitest
202. # [01:44] <mattwoodrow> ah
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213. # [01:49] <@ted> espindola: that ought to work, since you can just disable write poisoning once you know you're crashing
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216. # [01:52] <@dbaron> Hmmm, we *almost* got all possible colors on the m-c tip android opt M5
217. # [01:53] <@dbaron> (4 runs, one red, one blue, one orange, one green)
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220. # [01:57] <darktrojan> quick, someone at the colo pull out the plug
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223. # [01:59] <@dolske> is the Toy Story render in danger?!
224. # [01:59] <jhammel> no purples?
225. # [01:59] <jhammel> we need TBPL colors that aren't in the visible spectrum
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227. # [02:00] <darktrojan> I think getting all the colours is probably worth one of dolske's trophies
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229. # [02:00] <jhammel> the wtf trophy?
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231. # [02:01] <@dolske> someone's push turned hard-xray and aaauuuggghhh...
232. # [02:01] <jhammel> might need a special monitor to display it
233. # [02:01] <cpeterson> ultraviolet
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235. # [02:01] <jhammel> although, if anyone was using a analog CRT i'm sure you could get the electrons to make hard x-rays
236. # [02:02] <jhammel> though it might also involve voltages that would do other bad things ;)
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239. # [02:02] <darktrojan> sounds good, let's do it
240. # [02:02] <jhammel> i'm also imagining svg would render more efficient on an analog monitor (exercise left to reader)
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243. # [02:03] <@dolske> "Best Viewed In Tektronix"
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245. # [02:05] <capella> last tecktronix i saw people were coding in APL
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262. # [02:16] <cpeterson> n
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270. # [02:19] <padenot> dolske: re. the tbpl url, the trychooser hg extension does that
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272. # [02:19] <padenot> dolske: https://github.com/pbiggar/trychooser
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278. # [02:22] <Jesse> bz: So.. http://bit.ly/LkQzBA
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282. # [02:24] <Jesse> when bz begins a comment with "So..", i know it's time to grab the popcorn
283. # [02:24] <mccr8> hah
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286. # [02:28] <Jesse> bz has commented in over 50000 bugs, but only starting with "So.." in ~700 bugs
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291. # [02:29] <@bz> Jesse: heh
292. # [02:30] <@bz> Jesse the "so..." thing is a bad habit I seem to have picked up
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295. # [02:31] <Jesse> i don't know what i accidentally pressed to make Thunderbird open 80 messages in separate tabs, but it did so very quickly!
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304. # [02:37] <@ted> wow
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312. # [02:41] <mrbkap> bz: you should have said "so... the "so..." thing is..."
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314. # [02:43] <jlebar> sheppy, fyi, we have 0 dev docs on mozbrowser, afaik.
315. # [02:43] <mrbkap> bz: the new dom bindings still go through domclassinfo right?
316. # [02:43] <sheppy> jlebar: I don't know what mozbrowser is
317. # [02:43] <jlebar> sheppy, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742944
318. # [02:43] <jlebar> sheppy, It's b2g only atm, and a privileged API.
319. # [02:43] <sheppy> jlebar: ah, yeah, that's something we'll need to document. I mentioned that in the gaia meeting.
320. # [02:44] <jlebar> sheppy, We'll definitely want to document it eventually, but you may not want to worry about it at the moment.
321. # [02:44] <sheppy> jlebar: If you can put dev-doc-needed keyword on anything that needs documenting, I will get them done. :)
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323. # [02:44] <sheppy> b2g docs are my one and only priority right now, other than getting the new Kuma wiki launched next month.
324. # [02:44] <sheppy> Once I finish build/install, the next thing is debugging, then I'm moving on to the APIs.
325. # [02:45] <jlebar> sheppy, Well, have a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693515 then. You can see all the fun dependencies there.
326. # [02:45] <sheppy> Definitely want the mozbrowser stuff on the horizon :)
327. # [02:45] <sheppy> jlebar: OK, I'll go through them and flag them off then.
328. # [02:45] <Callek> sheppy: very few docs on building for mobile as well, fwiw
329. # [02:46] <Callek> sheppy: as in I couldn't point someone at introduction docs for "Mobile" building yesterday (we do have Simple Firefox build/etc.)
330. # [02:46] <jlebar> sheppy, The tests are probably the best API docs atm. Which I know isn't fun for you.
331. # [02:46] <sheppy> jlebar: I'm used to it. Will be hitting you guys up a lot for info :)
332. # [02:46] <jlebar> sheppy, That's what I was afraid of. :)
333. # [02:46] <Callek> sheppy: p.s. hope you're feeling good this week ;-)
334. # [02:46] <jlebar> sheppy, the docs may be your priority, but they're not mine.
335. # [02:46] <sheppy> Callek: Unfortunately, we've got a limited writing staff and have been told B2G is our #1 priority, so mobile and desktop are going to suffer.
336. # [02:46] <sheppy> jlebar: as it should be :)
337. # [02:47] <sheppy> jlebar: don't worry, I'll try to be gentle :)
338. # [02:47] <jlebar> sheppy, thanks.
339. # [02:47] <Callek> sheppy: O, I understand on that writing staff
340. # [02:47] <sheppy> jlebar: and ask the build/install type guys; I wound up testing a lot of stuff for them and helping sort out problems, so it's not all bad :)
341. # [02:48] <sheppy> Tested new install scripts before they got checked in, etc.
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343. # [02:49] <sheppy> Callek: Like, literally, nobody on Mozilla staff will be working on desktop Firefox docs in a meaningful way until next year sometime.
344. # [02:50] <Callek> sheppy: will we have *any* form of "this is new in Firefox 14" for the dev side, even if its stub-docs about those features/api's, as long as we link/call-out those types of docs... or is that impossible near-term with the tasks you have?
345. # [02:50] <sheppy> Callek: The pages will exist, but there won't be much on them, and much of the sub-documentation will not get updated.
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347. # [02:51] <sheppy> I expect that DOM changes, new HTML features, CSS, etc will get done just because that does affect B2G.
348. # [02:51] <sheppy> But it's going to be very focused on B2G.
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352. # [02:52] <Callek> fair, and yea, teh DOM/HTML/Etc. changes is the *largest* concern of those pages for me. but I do want/etc. the other stuff, but I know how small your team is, and how *much* B2G work there is, so I won't complain
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354. # [02:52] <sheppy> I'm trying to rally the community to contribute that stuff, but realistically there aren't that many people who have the time to do more than a little writing. We love the ones that do though. :)
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362. # [03:01] <sheppy> Callek: Yeah. We'll see what we can do.
363. # [03:02] <sheppy> We have been basically telling people upward that unless we get more writers, docs are going to be in sad shape by the end of the year.
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371. # [03:05] <sheppy> We're trying to contract some stuff out. We'll see how that goes. :)
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374. # [03:06] <@dbaron> dolske, so do your rules for an "all green push" require that all the tests actually got run?
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376. # [03:06] <@dbaron> dolske, e.g., does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=880037c0ff1e count?
377. # [03:07] <@dbaron> (there was another push 20 minutes later, so a bunch of things got coalesced)
378. # [03:08] <@bz> mrbkap: no
379. # [03:09] <@bz> mrbkap: no classinfo
380. # [03:09] <@bz> mrbkap: except for the resolve hook on the window for the interface objects
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382. # [03:10] <mrbkap> bz: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking at.
383. # [03:10] <mrbkap> bz: It looks like we depend on the script namespace manager knowing about the interface?
384. # [03:10] <@bz> mrbkap: I _think_ so
385. # [03:10] <@bz> peterv and bholley did that part
386. # [03:11] <@bz> lemme look up the entry point here
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389. # [03:11] <@bz> yeah
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391. # [03:11] <@bz> #define REGISTER_PROTO(_dom_class) \
392. # [03:11] <@bz> aNameSpaceManager->RegisterDefineDOMInterface(NS_LITERAL_STRING(#_dom_class), _dom_class##Binding::DefineDOMInterface);
393. # [03:11] <mrbkap> bz: Yeah, but that depends on the namespace manager already knowing about that interface.
394. # [03:12] * @bz has no idea what the namespace manager does internally
395. # [03:12] <@bz> is there a concrete problem you're running into?
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400. # [03:12] <mrbkap> bz: bonnie is implementing a new interface with a constructor.
401. # [03:12] <mrbkap> bz: and the constructor isn't being bound to the window.
402. # [03:12] * @bz assumes adding a webidl interface with no corresponding xpcom stuff and it failing or something
403. # [03:12] <@bz> hmm
404. # [03:13] <@bz> you really want peterv here
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406. # [03:13] <mrbkap> Yeah.
407. # [03:13] <@bz> I mean, I can dig through this gunk, I've never really grokked the namespace manager bits in classinfo
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409. # [03:13] <@bz> basically the resolve hook is failing to find anything for the name?
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411. # [03:14] <@bz> I assume her interface appears in the generated RegisterBindings.cpp ?
412. # [03:14] <@bz> and is not marked NoInterfaceObject or anything?
413. # [03:15] <@bz> but yeah
414. # [03:15] <@bz> this stuff is using LookupNameInternal
415. # [03:15] * @bz pokes some more
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417. # [03:15] <@bz> nsScriptNameSpaceManager::RegisterDefineDOMInterface(
418. # [03:16] <@bz> if !s, should this fall back on AddToHash or something?
419. # [03:16] * @bz is not sure whether we could just stub out all the other members sanely, but hopes we could
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429. # [03:23] <bonnie> mrbkap, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661564
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437. # [03:27] <lduros> hello, what's the license for the xpi language packs?
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439. # [03:27] <lduros> is there a place where you can have a COPYRIGHT or LICENSE or COPYING file for these? :-)
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441. # [03:28] <@bz> mrbkap, bonnie: please file a bug, cc me and peter?
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443. # [03:28] <Ameya> ehsan: TO your question: I can track once addon accesses a particular interface... but not specific method..
444. # [03:28] <bonnie> bz, will do
445. # [03:28] <bonnie> bz, bug coming your way
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450. # [03:30] <Ameya> ehsan: is it possible to get caller of any perticular method..... ?
451. # [03:30] <@ehsan> Ameya: hmm, I don't know...
452. # [03:30] <@ehsan> Ameya: you should ask someone who knows xpconnect stuff
453. # [03:30] <Ameya> yes
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455. # [03:31] <@ehsan> like bholley (who's not around right now) or bz
456. # [03:31] <Ameya> ok
457. # [03:32] <Ameya> ehsan: right now I have put tracking in getService() method similarly it could work for others ... but not sure.
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461. # [03:33] <@ehsan> it's possible, but I don't know a lot about those areas of the code base...
462. # [03:33] <Ameya> ok
463. # [03:33] <@bz> it's possible to think that you're getting the caller
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477. # [03:38] <bonnie> bz, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764234 email should be coming your way
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490. # [03:43] <@bz> bonnie: thanks
491. # [03:43] <bonnie> bz, np
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504. # [03:51] <philor> we should track the average size of merges from inbound before and after m-cMerge
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526. # [04:03] <jrmuizel> ted: ping
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532. # [04:08] <jrmuizel> ted: ping again cause I was gone
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538. # [04:19] <aja> was there a decision on a 13.0.1 ?
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584. # [05:00] <@bz> bonnie: ping
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587. # [05:03] <@khuey> she's not here
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589. # [05:04] <@bz> yeh
590. # [05:04] <@bz> I gathered that
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606. # [05:22] <@bz> hrm
607. # [05:22] <@bz> so my 1337 skills are not helping
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613. # [05:23] <philor> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764234?
614. # [05:25] <@bz> oh
615. # [05:25] * @bz did find that one
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617. # [05:25] <@bz> that's kinda generic for the problem she was talking about. ;)
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740. # [07:24] <jonwil> Is there a way to pass specific flags to the linker via the .mozconfig? setting LDFLAGS or MOZ_LDFLAGS via mk_add_options doesnt seem to be working
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753. # [07:38] <philor> njn: how did you manage to make one extensions test crash on Linux64 opt only?
754. # [07:39] <mbrubeck> jonwil: Maybe just add "export LDFLAGS=foo" to .mozconfig?
755. # [07:39] <jonwil> ok, will try that
756. # [07:39] <jonwil> thanks
757. # [07:39] <mbrubeck> (It's a shell script that gets sourced by configure)
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759. # [07:40] <philor> njn: ah, awesome, "how did you manage to make bug 698743 magically reappear?"
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786. # [08:15] <njn> philor: which changeset of mine?
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788. # [08:16] <njn> philor: 484b7ec3f2ec ?
789. # [08:16] <philor> njn: nope, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/451ed5328312
790. # [08:17] <philor> the 484b one was the second time
791. # [08:18] <njn> philor: is "one extensions test crash on Linux64 opt only" and "make bug 698743 magically reappear" the same thing?
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795. # [08:19] <philor> njn: yep, and since the previous instance was apparently triggered by something that landed on fx-team, I suspect that means storage is poking its nose where it shouldn't, in someone else's memory
796. # [08:20] <njn> philor: my patch only changed how JavaScript error and warning messages are printed
797. # [08:20] <Unfocused> yea, i'm totally blaming storage on that one
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799. # [08:21] <njn> philor: not clear what the interaction with storage could be
800. # [08:21] <njn> philor: and I actually did a try run for this one...
801. # [08:22] <philor> or maybe my bug comment meant that I was retriggering something on fx-team that touched the test, it's not very clear this much later on
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803. # [08:22] <njn> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=016c17bf0c03
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805. # [08:23] <njn> philor: it's possible that the test_expandosharing.xul failure I got on try masked the other failure
806. # [08:23] <njn> philor: oh wait, I was looking at the wrong tbpl instance
807. # [08:23] <njn> philor: my try run didn't have linux64 opt failures
808. # [08:24] <philor> nope, nor is it permaorange, it was green twice between the first time and the second two
809. # [08:25] <philor> we could trigger four more on your try push, but it wouldn't prove much of anything, I don't think
810. # [08:25] * philor does anyway
811. # [08:26] <njn> philor: yeah, I suspect I luckily caused it to reappear by disturbing the alignment of the universe
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833. # [08:53] <glazou> bonjour
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835. # [08:54] <@smaug> huomenta
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839. # [08:56] <glandium> こんにちは
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841. # [08:58] <KWierso> glandium: I agree
842. # [08:58] <KWierso> well, except for that whole "it's almost two in the morning" thing
843. # [08:58] <glazou> אַ גוט טאָג
844. # [08:59] * glazou fixes a completely broken googletranslate translation in yiddish
845. # [08:59] <derf> صباح الخير
846. # [08:59] <glazou> "bonjour" was "a good year"...
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848. # [09:00] <derf> Wow... that looks... unrecognizable here.
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908. # [09:45] <philor> gcp: you broked it
909. # [09:45] <gcp> w0t
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911. # [09:46] <gcp> oh craps
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916. # [09:48] <Ms2ger> Good morning, philor
917. # [09:48] <philor> Ms2ger: good evening!
918. # [09:49] <philor> gah, 00:40
919. # [09:49] <Ms2ger> I'm afraid so
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922. # [09:51] <philor> luckily, while pondering wake-to-music versus wake-to-shrill-beeping last night, I wound up not setting the alarm at all, so I've got a surplus I can sqander
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925. # [09:52] <darktrojan> nice one
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928. # [09:55] <philor> though I guess "already have" would be more accurate than "can"
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946. # [10:17] <jesup|laptop> philor: ping
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948. # [10:18] <jesup|laptop> looks like he actually went to sleep
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954. # [10:23] <Ms2ger> jesup|laptop, what's up?
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960. # [10:25] <jesup|laptop> Looking at a heavy-orange/etc android try push for Aurora for no reason I can figure out, I was wondering if this was an infrastructure thing
961. # [10:25] <jesup|laptop> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c9f75db7b1b0
962. # [10:26] <Ms2ger> Do you need the coverage?
963. # [10:26] <jesup|laptop> I just pushed a "clean" aurora try for android-only as a test
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965. # [10:26] <Ms2ger> That's also going to go orange
966. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> There's some branding issue
967. # [10:27] <jesup|laptop> Not really, but I wanted to show a clean try for an aurora uplift evaluation.
968. # [10:27] <jesup|laptop> Ah. So this is expected. Is there a bug #?
969. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> Probably
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971. # [10:27] <jesup|laptop> :-)
972. # [10:27] <jesup|laptop> Ok. that's what I needed to know. Thanks!
973. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> Np
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989. # [10:51] <AryehGregor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543645#c15 <-- Is there a problem with the built-in interdiff? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?oldid=631861&action=interdiff&newid=632189&headers=1
990. # [10:51] * AryehGregor wants to know before he responds
991. # [10:51] <Unfocused> there are meny problems with interdiff
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993. # [10:51] <Unfocused> er, many
994. # [10:51] * Unfocused really can't type today
995. # [10:52] <AryehGregor> Well, in this case it works nicely, though.
996. # [10:52] <AryehGregor> So can I just respond by saying "Sure, here's the link"? It would be more convenient if I were in a more normal timezone . . .
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998. # [10:54] <Unfocused> yea, though explicitly mention that it actually shows everything in this case :)
999. # [10:54] <Unfocused> sadly, it can be a bit unreliable
1000. # [10:54] <AryehGregor> Okay, thanks.
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1004. # [11:05] <AryehGregor> // XXX: can you have an empty text node? If so, what do you do?
1005. # [11:05] <AryehGregor> I guess I really shouldn't be surprised that someone who wrote editor/ code wasn't sure if you could have an empty text node or not.
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1007. # [11:07] <Ms2ger> No, you shouldn't :)
1008. # [11:09] <Ms2ger> Added in CVS 1.1 by buster@netscape.com, apparently
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1014. # [11:12] <gerv> Fallen|away: No, sorry. You'll need to apply the patches and then run the script on the resulting files.
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1026. # [11:24] <jonwil> it wouldn't surprise me if there is code in m-c that dates back to the days before the Netscape source release...
1027. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> There is, lots
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1030. # [11:30] <@smaug> Ms2ger: not lots
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1032. # [11:30] <@smaug> but some, yes
1033. # [11:31] <Ms2ger> Do you look at editor sometimes? ;)
1034. # [11:32] <@smaug> most of editor code is not from pre-Mozilla era
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1036. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> On another note... Docshell cleanup ;)
1037. # [11:33] <@smaug> yes yes :)
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1039. # [11:34] <@smaug> is there a try-syntax for triggering some tests few times
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1041. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> I don't think so
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1077. # [12:22] <glazou> AryehGregor: the editor cleans up empt text nodes, hence buster's question
1078. # [12:23] <glazou> s:empt/empty
1079. # [12:23] <AryehGregor> glazou, apparently it doesn't always.
1080. # [12:23] <glazou> sigh
1081. # [12:24] <glazou> and please don't joke at buster, he was a super-smart and cool guy
1082. # [12:24] <glazou> that was the beginning of the editor
1083. # [12:24] <glazou> and we were in unknown land
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1097. # [12:38] <AryehGregor> Yeah, it's easy to make fun when the DOM has been around for ages and we've all had years of experience with it.
1098. # [12:38] <AryehGregor> It might have been less obvious that long ago.
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1102. # [12:40] <AryehGregor> Sorry about that.
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1108. # [12:44] <AryehGregor> /mnt/extra/checkouts/mozilla-central/content/base/src/nsContentIterator.cpp:777:31: error: ‘bling’ wa
1109. # [12:44] <AryehGregor> s not declared in this scope
1110. # [12:44] * AryehGregor deleted the "si" somehow :/
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1119. # [12:51] * Ms2ger approves of more bling in content/
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1124. # [12:53] <darktrojan> is it in content/bling/ ?
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1130. # [12:59] <Ms2ger> *remembers
1131. # [13:00] <Ms2ger> jaws, intermittent failure in browser_bug743421.js on inbound :/
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1142. # [13:09] <hsivonen> is there a public mailing list where Mozilla UI design is discussed?
1143. # [13:09] <hsivonen> dev-usability seems not to be it
1144. # [13:09] <hsivonen> (no posts this year)
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1146. # [13:10] * hsivonen wants to complain about recent Android look and feel regressions
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1150. # [13:14] <glandium> hsivonen: what kind of things are you thinking about?
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1152. # [13:14] <Ms2ger> I guess netscape.public.mozilla.ui isn't it either
1153. # [13:16] <Unfocused> i was gonna suggest dev-usability, but...well.. yea
1154. # [13:16] <Unfocused> #ux is public, fwiw
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1157. # [13:17] <hsivonen> glandium: the system accent color is no longer used for focus and text selection
1158. # [13:17] <hsivonen> glandium: the app menu itself and the button that open it are no longer ICS-like on ICS
1159. # [13:17] <glandium> hsivonen: sounds like you should simply file bugsd
1160. # [13:18] <hsivonen> glandium: ok
1161. # [13:18] <Unfocused> what glandium said
1162. # [13:18] <glandium> hsivonen: please cc me on the app menu/button one, i'm interested :)
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1165. # [13:20] <hsivonen> glandium: ok
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1167. # [13:21] <glandium> thanks
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1170. # [13:22] <Ms2ger> error: unused variable ‘error’
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1179. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> #include "test_quota.c"
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1218. # [14:23] <jlebar> glandium, fyi, people want to land bug 764192 pretty soon. The related crasher is apparently a top one on beta.
1219. # [14:24] <glandium> jlebar: I'm already on it
1220. # [14:24] <jlebar> glandium++
1221. # [14:24] <glandium> jlebar: i just wonder if it would make sense to put that stuff under a #ifdef MOZ_TEMP_INVESTIGATION or something
1222. # [14:26] <jlebar> glandium, Specifically the memset calls? That would be OK with me, I guess. Would we leave the RELEASE_ASSERTS as they are?
1223. # [14:27] <glandium> jlebar: I'd say the whole thing. So, instead of removing the MALLOC_DEBUG ifdefs, you'd switch them to #if defined(MALLOC_DEBUG) || defined(MOZ_WHATEVER_IT_IS_CALLED), and RELEASE_ASSERTS would be conditional too
1224. # [14:27] <jlebar> glandium, But the RELEASE_ASSERTs should be there in debug builds...
1225. # [14:28] <glandium> debug builds don't have jemalloc
1226. # [14:28] <jlebar> glandium, They can.
1227. # [14:28] <glandium> arguably, debug builds should just have MALLOC_DEBUG
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1229. # [14:29] <jlebar> glandium, They probably do... That's just a lot of ifdefs around every assertion.
1230. # [14:29] <glandium> jlebar: i'm also tempted to have you add a kill switch that prevents this thing from being enabled on the release channel
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1233. # [14:29] <jlebar> glandium, But whatever, if I'm willing to uglify this file, we can uglify it further.
1234. # [14:29] <jlebar> glandium, How would we do that?
1235. # [14:29] <jlebar> (the kill switch)
1236. # [14:29] <glandium> jlebar: you can ifdef DEBUG; DEFINES+=-DMALLOC_DEBUG in the makefile
1237. # [14:30] <glandium> for the kill switch, i'd say setting the MOZ_WHATEVER_IT_IS_CALLED define only if the channel is not release
1238. # [14:30] <jlebar> glandium, Can we make the RELEASE_ASSERTs implicitly ifdef debug || temporary_debugging, rather than putting the defines around every call?
1239. # [14:31] <glandium> jlebar: so, something like ifneq (release,$(MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL))
1240. # [14:31] <jlebar> glandium, Okay.
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1242. # [14:31] <glandium> jlebar: oh sure, i wasn't asking for individual ifdefs around every call :)
1243. # [14:31] <jlebar> Great. :)
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1248. # [14:33] <@smaug> why oh why is this test failing occasionally
1249. # [14:33] <glandium> jlebar: ifneq (,$(filter release esr,$(MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL))) would be a better test, if that happens to stay until 17
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1251. # [14:34] * @smaug just loves focus handling
1252. # [14:35] <@smaug> dao: ping
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1257. # [14:38] <@smaug> do we have any "crash()" method available to JS tests
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1261. # [14:42] <darktrojan> evilpie, I like your console filter, well done
1262. # [14:42] <Fallen> smaug: check out what http://code.google.com/p/crashme/ does, maybe thats available for tests too
1263. # [14:42] <evilpie> darktrojan: thanks :O
1264. # [14:42] <evilpie> was my first time on xul and stuff
1265. # [14:42] <@smaug> that is addon
1266. # [14:43] <@smaug> perhaps I'll just pass null to some chrome stuff which expects non-null
1267. # [14:43] <Fallen> right, I just thought maybe its just js code that calls into something
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1270. # [14:43] <Fallen> especially since there is only one version for ff4+, lets me think there is no binary component
1271. # [14:44] <Fallen> ah, scratch that, binary components
1272. # [14:45] <Fallen> but maybe you can crash via jsctypes
1273. # [14:45] <WG9s> NIghtly tester tools extension includes the ability to cause crashes.
1274. # [14:46] <nemo> Huh. I wonder what Google did to give them that huge jump on AWFY
1275. # [14:47] <nemo> past 64 bit JM+TI on sunspider again
1276. # [14:47] <glandium> smaug: it's using js-ctypes
1277. # [14:47] <glandium> (iirc)
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1280. # [14:47] <nemo> omg. apple jsc which you guys just reenabled is doing really well. wow
1281. # [14:48] <@smaug> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/eventlistenerservice;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIEventListenerService).addSystemEventListener(null, "", null, false); works :)
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1287. # [14:50] <AryehGregor> I guess I've been doing more coding recently than usual!
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1290. # [14:51] <eto> hi
1291. # [14:52] <eto> would it be possible to remove/replace all of the browser ui?
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1293. # [14:52] * @smaug can't wait the time when AryehGregor is himself a reviewer ;)
1294. # [14:52] <AryehGregor> :)
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1299. # [14:53] <NeilAway> hsivonen: we discovered some old ui code which set the hint characterset to "", which is now failing; I know we shouldn't be setting the hint characterset to "", but I'd still like to know why Gecko started noticing the problem, if you happen to know?
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1302. # [14:54] <NeilAway> eto: with what?
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1305. # [14:55] <jonwil> Hey, Nokia did a brand new browser UI for the Nokia N900 :P
1306. # [14:55] <jonwil> new at the time that is
1307. # [14:55] <gaston> with rainbows and unicorns
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1309. # [14:55] <NeilAway> eto: for instance, Flock and SeaMonkey provide their own browsing UI in XUL, while Camino provides a browsing UI in cocoa widgets
1310. # [14:56] <glandium> is it even possible to use marketplace apps in the browser?
1311. # [14:56] <jonwil> The N900 browser UI is crap though :P
1312. # [14:56] <Fallen> Hmm I am getting a crash just under this code, quite reliably on mac, does someone know how I could fix it? http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/widget/cocoa/nsCocoaWindow.mm#2298
1313. # [14:56] * @smaug uses N900 browser all the time :)
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1315. # [14:56] <@smaug> better UI than in default N9 browser
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1318. # [14:57] <froydnj> mbrubeck: ping
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1344. # [15:03] <hsivonen> NeilAway: do you mean hint character set as in the user-configurable fallback encoding?
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1347. # [15:04] <hsivonen> NeilAway: it probably started noticing, because I thought the fallback character encoding given to the parser should be a real Gecko-supported encoding name
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1354. # [15:05] <eto> NeilAway: with xul for example
1355. # [15:06] <eto> NeilAway: but own custom tablist
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1357. # [15:06] <eto> NeilAway: own "dialogs"
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1389. # [15:19] <NeilAway> hsivonen: I suspected as much, do you have a bug# for that at all?
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1391. # [15:19] <hsivonen> NeilAway: the HTML5 parser landing
1392. # [15:20] <hsivonen> NeilAway: what's your code about?
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1394. # [15:20] <hsivonen> NeilAway: why would it pass something else than the encoding chosen in the charset menu?
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1397. # [15:20] <NeilAway> hsivonen: it was trying to clear it :-(
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1399. # [15:21] <NeilAway> hsivonen: stopped working around 2012-05-24
1400. # [15:21] <hsivonen> NeilAway: clear the menu?
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1402. # [15:21] <hsivonen> NeilAway: oh. then it's not my fault
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1406. # [15:21] <hsivonen> NeilAway: I have no idea what change happened on 2012-05-24
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1408. # [15:22] <NeilAway> hsivonen: hmm, maybe something else used to pass a better fallback charset when it had an empty string
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1410. # [15:22] <NeilAway> hsivonen: well, it's a long story
1411. # [15:23] <NeilAway> hsivonen: code A used to set the forced character set on docshell B to UTF-8
1412. # [15:23] <NeilAway> hsivonen: code C wanted to load document D with its default character set, so set it to null
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1415. # [15:23] <NeilAway> hsivonen: then code A was changed to set the hint character set instead, but nobody told code C, so now it set the hint character set to null
1416. # [15:24] <NeilAway> hsivonen: something goes wrong and the document doesn't get parsed, but apparently it happened to work before 2012-05-24 anyway
1417. # [15:24] <NeilAway> hsivonen: what doesn't help is that the check for illegal character sets fails to assert for null :s
1418. # [15:24] <hsivonen> NeilAway: the parser is supposed to assert and use Windows-1252 if the hint is bogus
1419. # [15:25] * jlebar smells something burning.[
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1421. # [15:25] <froydnj> jlebar: it's just android, who cares?
1422. # [15:25] <NeilAway> hsivonen: is there a good place I can put a breakpoint to see what the parser is doing with the character set?
1423. # [15:25] <hsivonen> NeilAway: if you find out the reason, please CC me on the bug
1424. # [15:25] <jlebar> froydnj, it's not just android. :)
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1426. # [15:25] <hsivonen> NeilAway: various places in nsHtml5StreamParser
1427. # [15:26] <jlebar> How the heck did that compile on my machine?
1428. # [15:28] <froydnj> no qref?
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1430. # [15:28] <Fallen> magic?
1431. # [15:29] <jlebar> I must not have compiled it. :)
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1435. # [15:34] <Ms2ger> jlebar, so why didn't you remove the QI?
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1438. # [15:34] <Ms2ger> Ah, there it is, in the wrong patch
1439. # [15:34] <NeilAway> hsivonen: hmm, so MarkAsBroken() gets called
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1446. # [15:40] <NeilAway> hsivonen: ah! bug 710693
1447. # [15:41] <edmorley> ehsan: I hadn't added bug 763898 as blocking randomorange since it was fixed permaorange and due to bustage more than anything else
1448. # [15:41] <NeilAway> intriguingly that's already in my history
1449. # [15:41] <nemo> whatever happened to krakenbenchmark.mozilla.org ?
1450. # [15:41] <@ehsan> edmorley: I have queries which tell me when a bug is marked as [orange] but not randomorange, and vice versa
1451. # [15:41] <@ehsan> edmorley: that was only to shut the whine up :)
1452. # [15:42] <edmorley> ehsan: ah cool, wfm :-)
1453. # [15:42] * mjschranz_away is now known as mjschranz
1454. # [15:42] <edmorley> ehsan: good queries to have, I've run the search manually a few times
1455. # [15:42] <edmorley> ehsan: and also for looking at summaries that seem orange-ish
1456. # [15:42] <@ehsan> I usually catch those bugs within a day :)
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1458. # [15:45] <edmorley> ehsan: oh and m-cMerge looking good, watched the output in the webconsole whilst running, everything other than the https bzapi calls is local
1459. # [15:45] <@ehsan> edmorley: yep, graememcc confirmed that yesterday
1460. # [15:46] <edmorley> yeah I saw, I meant as a checking for sure (given security access)
1461. # [15:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bdbed29aaaa6 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
1462. # [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cfe3d2e34040 - Joe Walker - Bug 761031 - GCLI edit command help seems unfinished; r=dcamp
1463. # [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0acca26e3763 - Joe Walker - Bug 761268 - GCLI has hard-coded strings; r=dcamp
1464. # [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c823ffa89a33 - Panos Astithas - Bug 754251 - Can't set breakpoint in Script Debugger; r=rcampbell
1465. # [15:47] <edmorley> ttaubert: try http://www.graememcc.co.uk/m-cmerge/?cset=bdbed29aaaa6
1466. # [15:47] <edmorley> (only a few bugs, but thought you might want to check it out :-))
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1473. # [15:52] <NeilAway> hsivonen: so, it turns out that SetupDecodingAndWriteSniffingBufferAndCurrentSegment only checks for one error code from the charset converter manager, which is handy because it only ever used to fail in one way ;-)
1474. # [15:52] <lahabana> hey who knows how I can specify a special number of asserts for a crashtest on winXP only?
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1476. # [15:53] <Ms2ger> Regex :/
1477. # [15:54] <hsivonen> NeilAway: ok. in any case, if you want behavior that means "overwrite previous explicit fallback with the charset menu selection", then the re-reading of the charset menu selection should happen somewhere before the data reaches the parser, IMO
1478. # [15:54] <Ms2ger> asserts-if(/^Windows\x20NT\x206\.1/.test(http.oscpu)), maybe?
1479. # [15:54] <hsivonen> NeilAway: certainly on the main thread
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1481. # [15:55] <lahabana> Ms2ger: ho god ;)
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1483. # [15:56] <Fallen> does anyone have experience with compiling and working on ffx/tbird on an SSD?
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1485. # [15:57] <gcp> yes
1486. # [15:57] <froydnj> yes
1487. # [15:57] <NeilAway> hsivonen: well, part of the problem was that code A was changed so that we don't need to overwrite anything any more ;-)
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1490. # [16:00] <lahabana> Ms2ger: in fact it's the opposite it's for windows 7
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1494. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> asserts-if(/^Windows\x20NT\x205\.1/.test(http.oscpu)) then
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1496. # [16:02] <lahabana> hmm thx
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1499. # [16:05] <mkaply> smaug: I apologize if I'm sounding like a jerk. I probably shouldn't post to bugs first thing in the morning :)
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1505. # [16:08] <espindola> ehsan, thanks for working on the warnings!
1506. # [16:08] <@ehsan> espindola: they were driving me nuts :)
1507. # [16:09] <@smaug> mkaply: I'm sorry about the bug
1508. # [16:09] <@smaug> mkaply: there really has been odd behavior for a long time
1509. # [16:09] <espindola> adding final should also remove some of the virtual dispatches is our "single implementation of an interface" pattern
1510. # [16:10] <@smaug> mkaply: and now that we're trying to kill connections etc more aggressively (to prevent leaks etc), that leads to the new bug ...
1511. # [16:10] <espindola> gosh, thunderbird thinks I have 89k new messages :-)
1512. # [16:11] * @smaug looks at his w3c folder in TB. 23k unread :)
1513. # [16:11] <@smaug> mkaply: just curious, are the addons you're talking about something not available in AMO ?
1514. # [16:12] <espindola> smaug, it is just the notification thing on linux that went crazy, it was actually 1 new message :-)
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1517. # [16:13] <mkaply> smaug: This one isn't yet. But is has a few million users. It's the web.de toolbar.
1518. # [16:15] <@smaug> mkaply: and you're using XHR to send some data
1519. # [16:15] <@smaug> and not really care about event listeners?
1520. # [16:15] <mkaply> smaug: We use XHR for all communication with the server. I think you'll find that most add-ons do this.
1521. # [16:15] <mkaply> It's the quickest and most effective way.
1522. # [16:15] <@smaug> yes
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1524. # [16:16] <@smaug> but the problem doesn't happen in most cases
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1526. # [16:16] <mkaply> So you say event listeners and that's where I get confused. Do you consider the onload and onerror functions on the XHR to be event listeners?
1527. # [16:16] <@smaug> mkaply: and if the window to which XHR is bound to is going away, event listeners wouldn't be called
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1530. # [16:16] <@smaug> (even in FF2.0)
1531. # [16:16] <@smaug> mkaply: yes, those are event listeners
1532. # [16:17] <mkaply> smaug: well they do get called in FF16 with the fix.
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1534. # [16:17] <@smaug> yes, FF16 is now different
1535. # [16:17] <mkaply> or is the fix to not bind the XHR to the modal window?
1536. # [16:17] <@smaug> in FF16 XHR created using createInstance isn't bound to any window anymore
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1538. # [16:17] <mkaply> smaug: that makes a ton of sense :)
1539. # [16:18] <mkaply> before the EventTarget change, we never had a problem with our event listeners being called when the modal window is closed.
1540. # [16:18] <mkaply> I know you say they shouldn't, but they were.
1541. # [16:18] <@smaug> sounds very much like timing...
1542. # [16:18] <mkaply> So obvious question, then. Do you think addon devs over use XHR? Is there a better choice?
1543. # [16:18] <@smaug> I assume the window ended up staying alive/open long enough
1544. # [16:19] <@smaug> mkaply: XHR is a good tool for many things
1545. # [16:19] <@smaug> (modal window isn't )
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1547. # [16:20] <mkaply> smaug: well unfortunately since threading was removed and postMessage isn't available to chrome windows, there's really no way in this case to have the modal window tell someone else to do the work.
1548. # [16:20] <mkaply> We're calling our function on the parent window.
1549. # [16:20] <mkaply> s/parent/opener
1550. # [16:20] <mkaply> but the JS is still in the modal window scope I guess.
1551. # [16:22] <@smaug> but if you're in parent window, why you use createInstance?
1552. # [16:22] <@smaug> and not 'new XMLHttpRequest()'
1553. # [16:22] <@smaug> (just curious)
1554. # [16:22] <mkaply> smaug: It's all in Javascript modules.
1555. # [16:23] <mkaply> so even though we're in the parent, we're going through a JSM to do the work.
1556. # [16:23] <@smaug> ok, so not parent window
1557. # [16:23] <mkaply> What context does code in the JSM run in?
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1559. # [16:24] <@smaug> I don't know about jsm
1560. # [16:24] <mkaply> I don't claim to know anything about how this works. I just know that more and more, we are being told to use Javascript Modules, so XHRs end up as Ci.XHR
1561. # [16:24] <@smaug> they are like components implemented in JS?
1562. # [16:24] <mkaply> smaug: pretty much.
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1564. # [16:25] <@smaug> so then they have their own js context
1565. # [16:25] <@smaug> global object isn't window
1566. # [16:25] <@smaug> you could always pass window as a parameter, if one wants to create XHR the normal way
1567. # [16:25] <@smaug> but I guess createInstance works now well enough too
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1569. # [16:26] <mkaply> but if you did that, couldn't you end up with the same problem? If you are mid XHR and close one Firefox window while opening another?
1570. # [16:26] <@smaug> you pass the right window
1571. # [16:26] <@smaug> the one you keep open
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1573. # [16:26] <@smaug> but sure, if that is closed...
1574. # [16:26] <mkaply> Well, ideally you would be able to use the hiddenDOMWindow like the code in MDN, but it doesn't have chrome privileges.
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1576. # [16:26] <mkaply> Do you have any idea where that sample came from?
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1578. # [16:27] <@smaug> IIRC I mentioned about using hiddenWindow if possible
1579. # [16:29] <mkaply> You end up getting an error using the hiddenDOMWindow. Or did you mean hiddenWindow, not hiddenDOMWindow
1580. # [16:29] <@smaug> er, hiddenDOMWindow, whatever it is called
1581. # [16:29] <sheppy> This discussion sounds like stuff someone should add to or fix on MDN when its's over. :)
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1583. # [16:29] <mkaply> yeah, hiddenDOMWindow doesn't work. You get URI security errors.
1584. # [16:29] <sheppy> So someone please do that. :)
1585. # [16:29] <mkaply> It doesn't appear to support XHR.
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1587. # [16:30] <mkaply> sheppy, well if all goes well, we can just remove that chunk from MDN
1588. # [16:30] <sheppy> Heh
1589. # [16:30] <mkaply> IT doesn't appear to support cross site XHR that is. You get the same error you would get when youtry to XHR in a web page to a different domain
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1591. # [16:32] <@smaug> mkaply: does the problem happen often in your addons?
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1597. # [16:34] <mkaply> smaug: No, it's just one particular case, but it's pretty obvious. It happens when you add a new email account in preferences and then close the preferences window. Because adding a new email account has some back and forth, it can take a few seconds to negotiate with the server.
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1602. # [16:42] <@smaug> mkaply: again, just curious :) ... when you develop addon, do you check whether they leak
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1604. # [16:42] <@smaug> s/addon/addons/
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1613. # [16:54] <froydnj> ehsan: thanks for taking care of bug 764376!
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1615. # [16:54] <@ehsan> froydnj: :)
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1617. # [16:55] <ttaubert> edmorley: oh that's cool, didn't see your message, will try it next time
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1626. # [16:57] <sid0> ehsan: thanks
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1629. # [16:58] <@ehsan> np
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1635. # [17:06] <AryehGregor> What's with all the "pending" in Windows try runs? Do we have a server shortage?
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1644. # [17:09] <edmorley> ehsan: inbound bruning
1645. # [17:09] <edmorley> burning even
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1656. # [17:18] <philor> jesup|laptop: pong
1657. # [17:19] <sewardj> gerv: did you get through the B2G on I9100 maze ok?
1658. # [17:19] <gerv> Yep; building now.
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1660. # [17:19] <gerv> (Having made some docs updates along the way :-)
1661. # [17:20] <jesup|laptop> philor: question was answered (android aurora try push being orange wasn't surprising)
1662. # [17:20] <sewardj> gerv: that is good :-) I staggered through this on Monday
1663. # [17:20] <gerv> Did you need to install adb?
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1665. # [17:20] <sewardj> gerv: well, I had it hanging around on the host from previous android hackery, so the real answer is, I don't know.
1666. # [17:21] <gerv> OK.
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1668. # [17:21] <mbrubeck> froydnj: pong
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1671. # [17:22] <froydnj> mbrubeck: went ahead and left note for you in bug 763991
1672. # [17:22] <mbrubeck> ok
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1677. # [17:23] <sewardj> ajuma: ping
1678. # [17:23] <@ehsan> edmorley: sorry, thanks for the backout
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1680. # [17:23] <jesup|laptop> philor: is there a bug # for the Aurora android orange issues? (ms2ger indicated it was some form of branding issue)
1681. # [17:24] <edmorley> ehsan: np
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1683. # [17:24] <mbrubeck> froydnj: I can land both patches together if yours is ready.
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1685. # [17:24] <froydnj> mbrubeck: wfm, thanks
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1689. # [17:26] <ajuma> sewardj: pong
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1692. # [17:26] <jprmc> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764406
1693. # [17:26] <sewardj> ajuma: did 756253 make it to some sane state?
1694. # [17:26] <philor> jesup|laptop: bug 725703, but if you need Android results, yeah, you just change http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-aurora/source/mobile/android/config/mozconfigs/android/nightly#19 (and the one in mobile/xul/) to be "nightly" instead of "aurora"
1695. # [17:27] <@ehsan> jprmc: cool, CCed dolske
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1701. # [17:27] <jesup|laptop> philor: thanks. I don't need them, but I wanted to explain them for an aurora request
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1703. # [17:28] <ajuma> sewardj: i saw invalid read/writes once with the patch applied, but then couldn't reproduce again (i tried a few times). so it seems to be in a mostly sane state.
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1705. # [17:29] <sewardj> ajuma:ok good.
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1713. # [17:32] <mkaply> smaug: No, we aren't checking for leaks.
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1715. # [17:33] <@bz_sleep> ehsan: ping
1716. # [17:33] <@ehsan> bz_sleep: hi!
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1719. # [17:33] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, land away
1720. # [17:34] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: ok
1721. # [17:34] <jwir3> firebot, uuid
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1724. # [17:34] <@khuey> jwir3: 00000000-0000-0000-c000-000000000046
1725. # [17:34] <jwir3> where is firebot?
1726. # [17:35] <@ehsan> jwir3: 35b2c7f0-b56c-11e1-afa6-0800200c9a66
1727. # [17:35] <@ehsan> jwir3: (from uuidgen)
1728. # [17:35] <@khuey> mine is better
1729. # [17:35] <jwir3> ehsan: thankx
1730. # [17:35] * bz_sleep is now known as bz
1731. # [17:35] <jwir3> :)
1732. # [17:35] <@khuey> it'll be much more fun to debug
1733. # [17:35] <@ehsan> khuey: yours is so good that at least two projects already use it :)
1734. # [17:35] <@bz> ehsan: if you want to talk about this webgl thing you're seeing without bugzilla latency...
1735. # [17:35] <@bz> ehsan: I'm here
1736. # [17:35] <@khuey> ehsan: indeed
1737. # [17:35] <@ehsan> bz: yeah, so I could repro on the latest m-c
1738. # [17:36] <@ehsan> as you have probably seen
1739. # [17:36] <@ehsan> bz: and I am sort of scared :/
1740. # [17:36] <@ehsan> bz: here's another observation
1741. # [17:36] <Ms2ger> Does anybody actually take the rhs of implements as an argument?
1742. # [17:36] <@ehsan> bz: when that page starts to execute, the constant values are correct
1743. # [17:36] * Ms2ger wouldn't mind forbidding that
1744. # [17:36] <@ehsan> bz: you can verify by alerting one of them right in the beginning
1745. # [17:37] <@ehsan> but seems like something which happens along the way corrupts them
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1748. # [17:37] <@ehsan> I have no clue on how to debug this
1749. # [17:37] <@ehsan> bz: wanna give me some ideas? :)
1750. # [17:38] <@khuey> are you sure the page doesn't replace them? :-P
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1755. # [17:39] <@ehsan> khuey: yeah
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1757. # [17:39] <@ehsan> khuey: can you even replace dom constants?
1758. # [17:40] * @ehsan hopes the answer is no
1759. # [17:40] <@bz> ehsan: well, for astart...
1760. # [17:40] <@bz> khuey: you sure can
1761. # [17:40] <@bz> er, ehsan: you sure can
1762. # [17:40] <@smaug> mkaply: that might be useful
1763. # [17:40] <@bz> ehsan: is this reproducible reliably?
1764. # [17:40] <@bz> ehsan: as in, is it amenable to bisection?
1765. # [17:40] <@ehsan> bz: yes, every single time
1766. # [17:41] <@khuey> ehsan: they're dom properties, like anything else
1767. # [17:41] <@ehsan> bz: all you need is a debug build
1768. # [17:41] * jcranmer rages
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1770. # [17:41] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: just to be sure I don't mess anything, please quickly look: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661868
1771. # [17:41] <@ehsan> bz: I can bisect, do you have a guess on a good revision?
1772. # [17:41] <@smaug> mkaply: about:cc has horrible UI, but tells often whether something is leaking
1773. # [17:41] <jcranmer> NS_DescribeCodeAddress doesn't work for me on x86-64 linux
1774. # [17:41] <@ehsan> khuey: so they're not readonly?
1775. # [17:41] <@smaug> mkaply: bug 726346
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1777. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, looks good, thanks!
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1779. # [17:41] <@bz> ehsan: mmm
1780. # [17:41] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: me too :)
1781. # [17:41] <@bz> ehsan: looking
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1783. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> ehsan, there's a patch to make them readonly, IIRC
1784. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> I should get that test imported so I can land it...
1785. # [17:42] <@bz> ehsan: check whether rev a3d080bb3dc7
1786. # [17:42] <@ehsan> yeah, allowing to overwrite them is retarded
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1788. # [17:43] <@bz> ehsan: shows the problem?
1789. # [17:43] <@ehsan> bz: ok let me convert that to a git commit :)
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1791. # [17:43] <@khuey> ehsan: hmm, maybe they aren't
1792. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> Hmm
1793. # [17:43] <@khuey> ehsan: the way xpconnect does this is kind of broken ...
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1795. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> s/the way// s/does this// s/kind of//
1796. # [17:44] <@ehsan> bz: ok, I'm building now
1797. # [17:44] <AryehGregor> remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:16452'
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1800. # [17:44] <@ehsan> khuey: but anyways, I'm pretty sure I don't have code which goes through *all* constants and overwrites them :)
1801. # [17:45] <@khuey> heh ok
1802. # [17:45] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: someone else pushing the same time as you
1803. # [17:45] <AryehGregor> Yeah, and taking a while!
1804. # [17:45] * Ms2ger looks at idlharness.js
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1806. # [17:45] <@bz> ehsan: that's the riv right before we switched to new bindings for webglcontext
1807. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, well yes, have you noticed how long it takes to push? :)
1808. # [17:45] <@bz> er, s/riv/rev/
1809. # [17:45] <@ehsan> bz: ok, I'll ping you when the build is finished
1810. # [17:46] <@bz> yeah, the try thing is sad
1811. # [17:46] <@bz> I _think_ releng is working on it
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1813. # [17:46] <@khuey> woo
1814. # [17:46] * @khuey is down to 2 test failures
1815. # [17:46] <@khuey> from approximately 10,000
1816. # [17:46] <@bz> this is idb?
1817. # [17:46] <@khuey> yeah
1818. # [17:46] <@khuey> not bindings though
1819. # [17:46] <@ehsan> cool!
1820. # [17:46] <@khuey> just refactoring it to be sane
1821. # [17:47] <@ehsan> hmm
1822. # [17:47] <@khuey> bindings are after this and some other stuff
1823. # [17:47] <@ehsan> do we have a known bug where calling requestPointerLock when going fullscreen hides the cursor?
1824. # [17:47] <@ehsan> (cursor being the mouse pointer)
1825. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> khuey, making idb sane? glwt ;)
1826. # [17:48] <@khuey> heh
1827. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, do you remember if idlharness.js supports enums and stuff?
1828. # [17:48] <@bz> hrm
1829. # [17:48] <@bz> bug 761780 claimed to remove all the heads a week ago
1830. # [17:48] <@bz> but try is still slow?
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1832. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> Sure feels slow to me
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1834. # [17:49] * ehsan changes topic to 'ssh people'
1835. # [17:49] * @bz should find something to push to try and time it
1836. # [17:49] <@ehsan> oh dammit
1837. # [17:49] <@ehsan> wrong tab :(
1838. # [17:50] <@ehsan> does anyone know what the topic was? :(
1839. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Heh
1840. # [17:50] * Ms2ger pulls it up
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1842. # [17:51] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'Next uplift for Fx16: 2012-07-16 || New/want to help? See irc://irc.mozilla.org/#introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/'
1843. # [17:51] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: thanks!
1844. # [17:51] <glandium> bz: i pushed several things today, it was not so bad
1845. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> Np
1846. # [17:52] <@bz> ok, good
1847. # [17:52] * @bz hasn't tried recently
1848. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> Also, you guys talk to much
1849. # [17:53] <Daeken> so, i got a talos regression report for a patch i just landed, but i find myself wondering WTF it means :P anyone have pointers on what a "Regression V8 increase" would be?
1850. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> $ wc -l <Mozilla-#developers.log
1851. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> 292509
1852. # [17:53] * @bz is reviewing
1853. # [17:54] <Daeken> (my first interaction with talos at all)
1854. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> Daeken, that our score on the V8 javascript speed benchmark got worse
1855. # [17:54] <Daeken> ah hah
1856. # [17:54] <Daeken> that makes sense, thanks
1857. # [17:54] <@bz> well, no
1858. # [17:55] <Daeken> now i have to wonder how a patch in an entirely unrelated area could affect JS perf.
1859. # [17:55] <@bz> it means that our score on the test talos calls "V8" (which is not the same as the benchmark) got worse
1860. # [17:55] <@bz> Daeken: was this on Windows?
1861. # [17:55] <Ms2ger> Was this about your push, or "this merge with a hundred other changes regressed it"?
1862. # [17:55] <Daeken> OS X only
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1866. # [17:55] <@bz> ah
1867. # [17:55] <@bz> how big is the change?
1868. # [17:56] <@bz> _could_ just be noise
1869. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> bz, sorry, shouldn't have expected sanity from talos names
1870. # [17:56] <Daeken> Ms2ger: should only be my own change, and it's maybe 100 lines of changes
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1872. # [17:56] <glandium> bz: +0.261 (2.78% / z=2.757)
1873. # [17:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: well, it runs similar code, but totally differently. Which is why increase is a regression.....
1874. # [17:56] <Daeken> however, the only changes _should_ be on moz_widget_gonk :P
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1876. # [17:56] <@bz> Daeken: just ignore it, then
1877. # [17:56] <Daeken> ok, fair enough :)
1878. # [17:56] <Daeken> thanks guys
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1880. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> bz, you make it sound like I know which way the real V8 scores :)
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1882. # [17:57] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
1883. # [17:57] <@bz> Ms2ger: it's an iteration count, larger is better
1884. # [17:57] * Ms2ger doesn't do perf
1885. # [17:57] <Ms2ger> bz, well, it's either that or the other way around :)
1886. # [17:57] <glandium> Daeken: if you look at the graph, you see it goes down again after your push http://mzl.la/M1dMYu
1887. # [17:57] <jonwil> The more I look into bug 744942 the more I am convinced there IS a way to make it work without the need to do multiple builds.
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1891. # [17:58] <glandium> jonwil: there's always a way. the question is whether it's maintainable
1892. # [17:59] <Daeken> glandium: oh, yea, good catch. thanks.
1893. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> uncaught exception: SyntaxError: Expected " ", "", " ", "/*", "//", "\n", "\r" or "implements" but "X" found.
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1896. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> That answer my question about idlharness.js neatly
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1898. # [17:59] <edmorley> mayhemer: please don't cancel builds outside of Try, it burns the next build
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1900. # [18:00] <mayhemer> edmorley: oh :( sorry...
1901. # [18:00] <mayhemer> edmorley: but it seems rinning
1902. # [18:00] <jonwil> it shouldn't be hard to make the build system say "if building vs11-on-xp build and we are l;inking to prohibited imports, throw an error and fail the build"
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1905. # [18:00] <edmorley> mayhemer: to be fair the footgun shouldn't be there on non-try trees :-)
1906. # [18:00] <jonwil> "prohibited imports" would mean anything from msvcr110.dll or msvcp110.dll as well as any kernel32 functions not present on XP
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1909. # [18:01] <mayhemer> edmorley: maybe just put a big red note to self-serv API web "DON'T USE THIS"
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1911. # [18:01] <edmorley> mayhemer: did you use the buildapi or the tbpl cross
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1913. # [18:01] <mayhemer> edmorley: the commit message is NOBUILD fo next time?
1914. # [18:01] <edmorley> s/buildapi/buildapi directly
1915. # [18:02] <edmorley> mayhemer: DONTBUILD
1916. # [18:02] <mayhemer> edmorley: will remember next time, tbpl cross
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1918. # [18:02] <edmorley> ok, will check a bug is filed on removing
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1921. # [18:04] <mayhemer> edmorley: there is button in self-serv to [cancel all builds on this revision], does it always blow all build on all following revisions too?
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1923. # [18:04] <edmorley> yes
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1925. # [18:04] <edmorley> mayhemer: just like it would (/could) break local builds if you kill the job mid run
1926. # [18:04] <edmorley> and then did a non-clobber build next
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1928. # [18:05] <mayhemer> edmorley: aha, DONTBUILD next time
1929. # [18:05] <edmorley> mayhemer: bug 664858 for stopping self-serve from letting you cancel
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1932. # [18:07] <mbrubeck> edmorley: Okay, I'm finally going to fix that one...
1933. # [18:07] <mbrubeck> edmorley: err, I'm thinking of fixing it on TBPL
1934. # [18:07] <edmorley> mbrubeck: yeah that's the plan B I was just going to file :-)
1935. # [18:07] <mbrubeck> even though there will still be a footgut in the self-serve gun cabinet
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1938. # [18:08] <edmorley> it is still sometimes useful to cancel Nightlies to avoid the snippet race, so disabling just at the TBPL level may be best, still let us do that
1939. # [18:08] <edmorley> s/still/it will still/
1940. # [18:10] <philor> edmorley: already filed, whether you want to fix it on tbpl or on self-serve
1941. # [18:10] <mbrubeck> I didn't find any bugs open under Tinderboxpushlog
1942. # [18:10] <philor> huh, I know I filed it
1943. # [18:11] <edmorley> mbrubeck: bug 664858
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1945. # [18:11] <edmorley> philor: yeah I meant a tbpl specific one, but guess best to morph
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1947. # [18:12] <philor> I meant a tbpl one too
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1950. # [18:12] <philor> I must have decided it wasn't a good idea to only get rid of one of the footguns, though I don't know why I would have thought so
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1955. # [18:15] <edmorley> lovely merge to real commit ratio on m-c tip hehe
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1958. # [18:18] <edmorley> ehsan / philor: either of you up for the review of the one line change in bug 762120? :-)
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1961. # [18:20] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, for [Constructor] with no arguments, does http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661890 look good to you?
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1964. # [18:21] <msucan> can mochitests expect multiple uncaught exceptions?
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1966. # [18:22] <msucan> i have a test that specifically triggers several exceptions and if i do expectUncaughtException() only one of the errors is allowed
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1970. # [18:23] <msucan> multiple calls to expect..() cause no change in behavior
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1974. # [18:24] <@bz> msucan: are you making the calls to expect.... before each exception?
1975. # [18:24] <@bz> msucan: but after the previous one?
1976. # [18:24] <froydnj> bz: who holds onto XUL documents? nsXBLService?
1977. # [18:25] <msucan> bz: no. i'm load a page in a tab that has the exceptions ... in a row (three <script> tags)
1978. # [18:25] <msucan> i call expect..() only once before i load the page
1979. # [18:25] <msucan> or multiple times - but with no effect
1980. # [18:26] <msucan> i was thinking now to use ignoreAllUncaughtErrors() until page onload fires
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1982. # [18:27] <@ted> smaug: ping
1983. # [18:27] <@smaug> ted: pong
1984. # [18:27] <@bz> msucan: you should be makign the expec... calls in that page
1985. # [18:27] <@ted> smaug: hey, so, updating my gamepad patch again...
1986. # [18:27] <@bz> msucan: between the script tags
1987. # [18:27] <@bz> msucan: is there a reason to not do that?
1988. # [18:27] <@ted> you had me remove the gamepad events from CreateEvent
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1990. # [18:28] <msucan> bz: it's a content page, not a mochitest
1991. # [18:28] <@ted> so the places where I"m currently using CreateEvent to construct the events, should i just be doing "new nsDOMGamepadWhateverEvent()" instead?
1992. # [18:28] <@smaug> ted: yes, document.createEvent("gamepadevent"); shouldn't work
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1994. # [18:28] <msucan> i could give it a ref to the expect...()
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1996. # [18:28] <@smaug> ted: you could use the NS_Foo method
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1998. # [18:28] <@ted> smaug: okay, so I should keep those?
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2000. # [18:28] <msucan> will try that - thanks for the suggestion
2001. # [18:29] <@smaug> ted: yes, since the code to implement event ctor (in nsDOMClassInfo) uses NS_foo
2002. # [18:29] <@ted> ah
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2004. # [18:29] <@ted> i haven't gotten around to that yet
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2006. # [18:29] <@smaug> or, it is easier to implement event ctor if you have the NS_fooo
2007. # [18:29] <@ted> right
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2009. # [18:29] <@bz> msucan: if its a content page, how is t triggering your onerror handler?
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2015. # [18:30] <@ted> smaug: where should the NS_foo declaration live now that nsIPRivateDOMEvent.h is gone?
2016. # [18:30] <@ted> guess i can just look at your change that removed it
2017. # [18:30] <@smaug> ted: atm in nsIDOMEvent.idl
2018. # [18:30] <@ted> okay
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2022. # [18:32] <edmorley> mbrubeck: thanks :-)
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2025. # [18:32] <msucan> bz: i didn't look into how the mochitest suite works, but ever since this feature has been added exceptions from any tab show up. we use mochitest-browser-chrome (fwiw)
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2032. # [18:34] <@bz> nsIEnumertor, eh?
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2036. # [18:37] <Ms2ger> String(XMLHttpRequestUpload) expected "[object Function]" but got "function XMLHttpRequestUpload() {\n [native code]\n}", eh?
2037. # [18:38] <@ted> smaug: hrmph, i have to get a prescontext to use NS_NewFoo
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2039. # [18:38] <@smaug> just pass nsnull
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2042. # [18:40] <@ted> ah
2043. # [18:40] <@ted> am I allowed to use NULL in dom/content code, or do i have to use nsnull? :)
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2046. # [18:40] <Ms2ger> ted, in new code, sure :)
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2048. # [18:41] <@ted> okay
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2070. # [18:49] <gfritzsche> hm, firebot is on vacation?
2071. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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2081. # [18:52] <zzzzz> well firebot was back yesterday for a time..
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2085. # [18:54] <gfritzsche> sending regards from a sunny beach i bet :)
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2151. # [19:10] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: what does MOZ_CRASH show up as in crash-stats?
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2155. # [19:11] <mikeh> Can anyone help me troubleshoot the following error: |JavaScript Error: "Error: Permission denied for <http://camera.gaiamobile.org> to create wrapper for object of class UnnamedClass"| ?
2156. # [19:11] <mikeh> I've added |mozCameras| to |navigator|, and I can see the readonly-attribute handler |Navigator::GetMozCameras()| getting called and returning valid values.
2157. # [19:11] <@ted> bsmedberg: it's a macro
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2159. # [19:11] <@ted> bsmedberg: so whatever called it
2160. # [19:11] <@ted> rather, whatever included it
2161. # [19:11] <@bsmedberg> blech
2162. # [19:11] <@ted> why?
2163. # [19:11] <@ted> we skiplist mozalloc_abort...
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2165. # [19:11] <@bsmedberg> we appendlist it
2166. # [19:12] <@ted> ah
2167. # [19:12] <@ted> we could probably make MOZ_CRASH add an annotation
2168. # [19:12] <@bsmedberg> I've used explosive lists to see new intentional aborts before
2169. # [19:13] <@ted> gotcha
2170. # [19:13] <@ted> file a bug on that?
2171. # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> ok
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2174. # [19:13] <Steve> Hi guys - plugin API query. Plugins can query whether windowless mode is supported, but as far as I can see there's no test to see if *windowed* mode is supported. Is that right ?
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2182. # [19:14] <Steve> I want to kill windowed mode (in my branch anyway)
2183. # [19:14] <nemo> http://lifehacker.com/5917714/browser-speed-tests-chrome-19-firefox-13-internet-explorer-9-and-opera-1164
2184. # [19:15] <nemo> heh they really should be more emphatic about "our tests aren't the most scientific"
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2186. # [19:15] <nemo> pretty darn sure no one has taught them how to test a cold boot
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2189. # [19:15] <@bz> nemo: hmm?
2190. # [19:15] <jhammel> i will wait for the most scientific tests ;)
2191. # [19:15] <@bsmedberg> Steve: correct
2192. # [19:15] <@bsmedberg> Steve: what branch?
2193. # [19:15] <Steve> :)
2194. # [19:15] <nemo> on my non-clean VM but after a fresh reboot and waiting for the disc to settle, I got 1s for firefox, 2s for Opera, 2s for Chrome
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2197. # [19:15] <nemo> bz: oh, I just think it is unlikely that Opera opens 4 times faster than firefox
2198. # [19:16] <Steve> have a modified tree which slots into our 3d web browser as a procedural texture.
2199. # [19:16] * @bz shrugs
2200. # [19:16] <@bz> it all depends
2201. # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> Steve: windowed is the default if you don't query anything, so getting rid of windowed mode in general isn't very practical
2202. # [19:16] <nemo> not that I often do a cold reboot
2203. # [19:16] <nemo> bz: sure
2204. # [19:16] <Steve> it's necessary for offscreen rendering
2205. # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> although I'd still like to get rid of it!
2206. # [19:16] <Steve> :))))))))))))))))))))))))
2207. # [19:16] <Steve> noticed NPNVsupportsAsyncWindowsDXGISurfaceBool
2208. # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> meeting with Adobe about that now, in fact!
2209. # [19:16] <Steve> that's the way to go
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2211. # [19:17] <nemo> bz: anyway, they were overall nice to you guys, apart from " Its UI may still feel a little laggy, but when it comes to actually conserving memory, Firefox kicks butt."
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2213. # [19:17] <Waldo> overholt: did you ever get any feedback on the noise-canceling headphone bit? I've idly considered getting some, have been too lazy to do any actual research
2214. # [19:17] <philor> edmorley: that looks like a trunk disable patch you put on bug 761049, which is unnecessary - it's fixed on trunk, though disabling it on Aurora might be reasonable
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2216. # [19:18] <Steve> there needs to be a way for gecko to ask the plugin to render in an offscreen friendly way. ideally DXGI sync shared surfaces on windows but to a DC when that isn't available.
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2218. # [19:18] <Steve> the problem is, if the plugin doesn't know you don't want it rendering to a window, it won't try an alternative
2219. # [19:18] <Steve> so right now I can't ask flash to render how I want it which sucks
2220. # [19:19] <Steve> or any other plugin for that matter
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2222. # [19:19] <nemo> so why'd you guys kill off krakenbenchmark? and why not at least put a placeholder page in?
2223. # [19:20] <edmorley> philor: oh yeah whoops, midread the date on the orangefactor graph of occurence
2224. # [19:20] <edmorley> philor: would like for aurora
2225. # [19:20] <overholt> Waldo: I got a bit and decided to buy these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OMKR8E
2226. # [19:21] <overholt> Waldo: they've supposedly arrived so I'll let you know how they are when I try them
2227. # [19:21] <Steve> NPNVsupportsAsyncWindowsDXGISurfaceBool - Microsoft call this Syncronized shared surfaces as you need to acquire a mutex to render. So calling it Async in the source is incorrect isn't it ?
2228. # [19:21] <Waldo> shipped and arrived? the future is here
2229. # [19:22] <Steve> http://archive.msdn.microsoft.com/DXGISyncSharedSurf
2230. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> steve: no, its double-buffered if I understand the impl correctly
2231. # [19:22] <Steve> you don't. it's a shared surface. both processes access the exact same buffer.
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2233. # [19:23] <Steve> though you could double buffer that at either end if you want to.
2234. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> Steve: "there needs to be a way" is a bit naive, since you'd actually still have to have cooperation from the plugins themselves.
2235. # [19:23] <Steve> not naive but you're correct
2236. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> Steve: I believe that the NPAPI spec has two surfaces and it is double buffered
2237. # [19:24] <Steve> two hardware surfaces ?
2238. # [19:24] <Steve> that's not necessarily a bad plan but video memory is a costly resource
2239. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> pretty sure
2240. # [19:24] <Steve> that's fine, but we need a way of persuading plugins to use it
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2242. # [19:24] <Steve> some way to say pls pls don't render to an hwnd
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2245. # [19:26] <Steve> block NPP_SetWindow & have it always send null sounds like a plan unless you object
2246. # [19:26] <Waldo> overholt: what made you get those, versus the newer model that Amazon mentions on the page?
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2249. # [19:27] <overholt> Waldo: better reviews
2250. # [19:27] <Waldo> hum
2251. # [19:27] <overholt> Waldo: and joe said they fit his head well :)
2252. # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> steve: you can do whatever you want on a branch, but we're not going to make Acrobat stop working in-browser...
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2254. # [19:28] <Kailas> Can I inject HTTP header into a response when "ShouldProcess" method of nsIContentPolicy triggers?
2255. # [19:28] <Steve> I understand that. I have to force them to stop working to make them render the right way so they'll render offscreen. As it's a branch, it won't affect you.
2256. # [19:28] <Waldo> overholt: hmm, your phonebook picture head doesn't look joe-like ;-)
2257. # [19:28] <overholt> Waldo: ha!
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2259. # [19:30] <overholt> Waldo: first impression: wow
2260. # [19:30] <Steve> what's the deal with the dxgi sync shared surface implementation - expected any time soon ?
2261. # [19:30] <Waldo> heh
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2265. # [19:32] <Steve> got a link to that spec please boris ?
2266. # [19:32] <gfritzsche> steve, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Features/NPAPIAsyncDrawing
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2268. # [19:32] <Steve> thanks
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2270. # [19:32] <gfritzsche> steve, and https://wiki.mozilla.org/NPAPI:AsyncDrawing
2271. # [19:33] <Steve> ta
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2274. # [19:34] <Steve> the shared resource handle is the bit you want to pass to the plugin. then it can query for dx10 or dx11 or whatever interface it needs and afaik can query from another process
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2283. # [19:38] <Steve> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Features/NPAPIAsyncDrawing says this is complete. So it's definitely a ff13 feature ? very cool.
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2290. # [19:40] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: not sure... do you want me to check?
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2292. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: nevermind, ted answered
2293. # [19:41] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: what's the answer out of curiosity? :)
2294. # [19:41] <@ehsan> bz: the build before the new bindings is not affected
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2303. # [19:44] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: it's a macro and gets charged to the function which includes it
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2308. # [19:45] <@ehsan> bz: now I'm testing the switch bindings commit itself
2309. # [19:45] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: cool, thanks
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2311. # [19:48] <@bz> ehsan: mmmm
2312. # [19:48] <@bz> ehsan: here's hoping that wasn't it. ;)
2313. # [19:48] <Cwiiis> bz, ping?
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2315. # [19:48] <@bz> cwiiis: yes?
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2319. # [19:49] <gfritzsche> cjones: ping
2320. # [19:50] <Cwiiis> bz, I'm working on a patch where I'll be changing the size passed to the absolute containing block of absolute containers based on the set clampingScrollPortSize - I was hoping I'd be able to do this without reflowing by using something like the overflow areas change hint - does that sound feasible?
2321. # [19:50] <Cwiiis> bz, this is bug 758620
2322. # [19:50] <cjones> hi gfritzsche
2323. # [19:51] <Cwiiis> hmm, no bugbot... Here you go: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758620
2324. # [19:51] <@bz> Cwiiis: I really doubt it, since the size of that cb affects the sizes of the abs pos elements, no?
2325. # [19:51] <gfritzsche> cjones, hey... re bug 747055... the channel error not being delivered is a bug then?
2326. # [19:52] <Cwiiis> bz, well really I don't want to change the size, I just want the fixed pos elements to be laid out as if the size was different
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2328. # [19:52] <Cwiiis> bz, but perhaps it's still not (easily) feasible
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2330. # [19:53] <@bz> Cwiiis: umm... what do you mean by "not change the size"?
2331. # [19:53] <cjones> gfritzsche, it can't be delivered while there's channel C++ code on the stack
2332. # [19:53] <@bz> Cwiiis: What should happen in the "width: 50%" case?
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2334. # [19:53] <cjones> is it not being delivered later?
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2336. # [19:54] <gfritzsche> cjones, nope, never triggered
2337. # [19:54] <Ms2ger> philikon, yt?
2338. # [19:54] <Cwiiis> bz, It ought to still be 50% of the viewport it's a child to(?)
2339. # [19:54] <@bz> it ought to be 50% of the containing block
2340. # [19:54] <@bz> whatever containing block is
2341. # [19:54] <Cwiiis> bz, hmm, ok, it sounds like I can't really do it the way I'm doing it in that case
2342. # [19:54] <cjones> that's not expected unless PluginModuleParent is calling Close() on its own later
2343. # [19:55] <philikon> Ms2ger: aye
2344. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> philikon, new XMLHttpRequest({ mozAnon: true })
2345. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> philikon, should that work in content?
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2347. # [19:56] <philikon> Ms2ger: nope, only if allowed explicitly through the pref hack
2348. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Aha
2349. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Good, because it doesn't
2350. # [19:56] <philikon> yep
2351. # [19:56] <Cwiiis> bz, I suppose I'll need to have a look at the position calculation in this case to change only that and not the size calculation - is this a feasible thing?
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2354. # [19:57] <@bz> Cwiiis: I don't know
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2356. # [19:57] <@bz> Cwiiis: sorry, I'm not really sure what you're trying to do here and why
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2358. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> philikon, did someone file a spec bug / ask on the mailing list about using the dictionary instead of new AnonXMLHttpRequest()
2359. # [19:58] <@bz> Cwiiis: just missing too much context
2360. # [19:58] <@bz> Cwiiis: so it's hard to say anything useful.
2361. # [19:58] <Cwiiis> bz, do you have time for me to elaborate a bit?
2362. # [19:58] <@bz> Cwiiis: honestly, not right now
2363. # [19:59] <@bz> Cwiiis: maybe send mail?
2364. # [19:59] <Cwiiis> bz, ok, will do that - thanks
2365. # [19:59] <@bz> Cwiiis: or just put it in the bug and cc me?
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2367. # [20:00] <Cwiiis> bz, ok, will do, that's a bit easier :)
2368. # [20:02] <gfritzsche> cjones, so the process-link should trigger the error i assume... any ideas what i could check for?
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2370. # [20:04] <philikon> Ms2ger: sicking suggested mozAnon
2371. # [20:04] <philikon> Ms2ger: i later found out about AnonXHR
2372. # [20:04] <philikon> Ms2ger: but then we had already landed it
2373. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> philikon, yes
2374. # [20:04] <philikon> Ms2ger: not too idfficult to refactor
2375. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> philikon, I don't think this is worse
2376. # [20:05] <cjones> gfritzsche, one of two things should happen: (i) the error should be triggered, (ii) PluginModuleParent should Close() the channel
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2378. # [20:05] <@ehsan> bz: ok, so updating to that single commit reproduces the problem
2379. # [20:05] <@ehsan> bz: so this is a regression from something in that patch
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2381. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> philikon, I just want either us or the spec to change before we expose it to content
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2383. # [20:05] <philikon> Ms2ger: ok
2384. # [20:06] <@bz> ehsan: that's .... very interesting
2385. # [20:06] <philikon> Ms2ger: do you have an action item for me?
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2387. # [20:06] <@bz> ehsan: is this a 32-bit build or a 64-bit one?
2388. # [20:06] <@ehsan> hmm
2389. # [20:06] <@ehsan> 64-bit I think
2390. # [20:06] <@ehsan> let me make sure
2391. # [20:06] <@ehsan> yeah
2392. # [20:06] <@ehsan> 64-bit
2393. # [20:06] <@bz> ok
2394. # [20:07] <@bz> I'm testing 64-bit too....
2395. # [20:07] <Ms2ger> philikon, three options... file a spec bug, send an email to public-webapps@w3.org, or coerce someone else into doing one of these :)
2396. # [20:07] <gfritzsche> cjones, ok, and would making the DoWorkRunnable::Run() avoid running nested tasks be a proper option?
2397. # [20:07] <@bz> well, let me think about how to debug this
2398. # [20:07] <@ehsan> ok
2399. # [20:07] <@ted> jrmuizel: pong from last night
2400. # [20:07] <philikon> Ms2ger: 304 sicking :p
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2402. # [20:07] <jrmuizel> ted: where are you right now?
2403. # [20:08] <glandium> gaston: you should ditch openbsd and switch to bitrig. at least they have a decent compiler ;)
2404. # [20:08] <@ted> jrmuizel: in Warp Core
2405. # [20:08] <@bz> So these are just the interface constants
2406. # [20:08] <Ms2ger> philikon, that's option 3 for you, then ;)
2407. # [20:08] <@bz> and you're getting them via ctx?
2408. # [20:08] <philikon> Ms2ger: yuup
2409. # [20:08] <gaston> glandium: LOL :)
2410. # [20:08] <jrmuizel> ted: in a meetibg?
2411. # [20:08] <@ehsan> bz: correct
2412. # [20:08] <jrmuizel> n
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2416. # [20:08] <@bz> so what that does is goes through the interface object and proto object
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2418. # [20:08] <@bz> and for each constant does:
2419. # [20:08] <Ms2ger> gaston, so at this point each of the four BSD users has their own fork, right?
2420. # [20:08] <@bz> JS_DefineProperty(cx, obj, cs->name, cs->value, NULL, NULL,
2421. # [20:08] <@bz> JSPROP_ENUMERATE | JSPROP_READONLY | JSPROP_PERMANENT);
2422. # [20:09] <@ehsan> ok
2423. # [20:09] <gaston> Ms2ger: cant wait to see the patches on bugzilla adding the build stanzas for it :)
2424. # [20:09] <@ehsan> bz: note that the value of the constants change
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2426. # [20:09] <gaston> oh wait they have no idea how to do that
2427. # [20:10] <@bz> yes
2428. # [20:10] <@bz> I did note that
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2430. # [20:10] <@bz> that's pretty bizarre
2431. # [20:10] <@ted> jrmuizel: yeah
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2433. # [20:10] <@ted> jrmuizel: just finished
2434. # [20:11] <@ted> but i should probably get over to holodeck where we're meeting with adobe folks
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2439. # [20:12] <Waldo> ehsan: *changing* constants? that's madness
2440. # [20:13] <@ehsan> Waldo: madness is what I mostly deal with ;)
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2443. # [20:14] <@bz> Waldo: so a question
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2446. # [20:14] <@bz> Waldo: given that I set up my constants as described above
2447. # [20:15] <@bz> Waldo: and ehsan sees them have the right value
2448. # [20:15] <@bz> waldo: and then later on he sees the have a different value
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2451. # [20:15] <@bz> waldo: any idea what gives? ;)
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2453. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> Is it the same object you're getting them from?
2454. # [20:15] <@bz> ehsan: can you modify the JS involved at the place where it's seeing the 0x100 or whatever?
2455. # [20:15] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, looks plausible. I'm all in favor, if it works.
2456. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> Seems to!
2457. # [20:15] <@ehsan> bz: what do you mean?
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2459. # [20:16] <Waldo> bz: I kind of missed the start of this, but he should not be seeing them have two different values, if they're non-configurable/non-writable (permanent/readonly in our non-spec parlance)
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2462. # [20:16] <@bz> ehsan: are you able to examine the state of the JS objects involved at the point when the bug happens?
2463. # [20:16] * edmorley is now known as edmorley|away
2464. # [20:16] <@bz> ehsan: e.g. look at which object the prop is actually being found on?
2465. # [20:17] * philor|away is now known as philor
2466. # [20:17] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, and how about http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661932 ?
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2468. # [20:17] <@bz> waldo: well, yes, but he us
2469. # [20:17] <@bz> waldo: er, is
2470. # [20:17] <@ehsan> bz: yeah I control all of the ends here
2471. # [20:17] <@bz> ehsan: ok, could you check whether getOwnPropertyDescriptor on ctx returns a descriptor for the props?
2472. # [20:18] <@bz> ehsan: or whether we're really finding them on the proto
2473. # [20:18] <@bz> waldo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764166 fwiw
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2476. # [20:18] <Waldo> bz: I would call that a JS engine bug, I think, and/or a JSAPI design flaw that the browser is invoking inadvertently (or perhaps vertently, it being what it is)
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2478. # [20:18] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, I don't remember the specs offhand.
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2480. # [20:18] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, http://es5.github.com/#x15.3.4.2
2481. # [20:18] <@ehsan> bz: ok just a sec
2482. # [20:19] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, yeah, looks right in that case.
2483. # [20:19] <Ms2ger> Thanks!
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2485. # [20:19] <@bz> Waldo: the thing is, I'm not sure why the switch to new bindings would tickle this....
2486. # [20:20] <@bz> xpconnect also put the consts on the proto....
2487. # [20:20] <padenot> gerv: ping
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2496. # [20:22] <gerv> padenot: pong.
2497. # [20:22] <Waldo> okay, that was pointless :-)
2498. # [20:22] * armenzg_mtg is now known as armenzg
2499. # [20:22] <padenot> gerv: can we use lgpl code in firefox ?
2500. # [20:22] <gerv> padenot: possibly, under certain circumstances. Depends what you want to do.
2501. # [20:23] <gerv> We just changed the policy to allow it in principle,
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2503. # [20:23] <gerv> but we have to be careful about various things.
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2505. # [20:23] <gerv> If you have some particular code in mind, file a bug in mozilla.org/Licensing and tell us all about it.
2506. # [20:23] <padenot> gerv: will do, thank you
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2511. # [20:24] <@smaug> are we running out of try slaves?
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2516. # [20:25] <Waldo> bz: yeah, without knowing how bindings are defined, I wouldn't know
2517. # [20:25] <Waldo> bz: and I wouldn't know where to look to answer that quickly
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2519. # [20:25] <@bz> waldo: I just said how bindings are defined....
2520. # [20:26] <@bz> waldo: let me just pastebin the code, ok?
2521. # [20:26] <Waldo> sure
2522. # [20:27] <@bz> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661939
2523. # [20:27] <@ehsan> bz: ok, I have a minimal testcase now!
2524. # [20:27] <@ehsan> let me attach it to the bug
2525. # [20:27] <@bz> ehsan: awesome!
2526. # [20:27] <@dbaron> Has bugzilla been getting even slower lately?
2527. # [20:28] <Waldo> bz: out of curiosity, doesn't UINT_TO_JSVAL generate a static initializer?
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2529. # [20:29] * Waldo yearns for constexpr
2530. # [20:29] <@bz> Waldo: yes
2531. # [20:30] <@bz> Waldo: do you have a better idea?
2532. # [20:30] <@ehsan> bz: I'm afraid it doesn't make anything easier to understand
2533. # [20:30] <Ms2ger> Waldo, don't let glandium hear that
2534. # [20:30] <Waldo> bz: awful-er macro gunk perhaps
2535. # [20:30] <@bz> ehsan: er, it kinda does
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2537. # [20:30] <@ehsan> really?
2538. # [20:30] <@bz> ehsan: that testcase tells me the value is just wrong to start with
2539. # [20:30] <@bz> ehsan: just to check...
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2541. # [20:31] <glandium> Ms2ger: why?
2542. # [20:31] <@ehsan> bz: but only in debug builds!
2543. # [20:31] <@bz> ehsan: that testcase shows the bug for you in a debug build that you just start, right?
2544. # [20:31] <Waldo> wrong to start sounds like a browser/bindings bug, not a JS engine bug
2545. # [20:31] <Waldo> yay!
2546. # [20:31] * Waldo runs
2547. # [20:31] <@bz> waldo: except OS-specific
2548. # [20:32] <glandium> Waldo: hey, while you're here, when do you think you can take a look at 616262? :)
2549. # [20:32] <@bz> waldo: and debug-only
2550. # [20:32] <@ehsan> bz: yes
2551. # [20:32] <@bz> ehsan: ok, let me pull up a Linux build here
2552. # [20:32] <glandium> Ms2ger: ah, static initializer
2553. # [20:32] <@bz> ehsan: might take ~20 mins
2554. # [20:32] <Waldo> glandium: pretty soon, might do it later today
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2556. # [20:32] <Waldo> glandium: yours is the oldest patch in my queue, so you're first up pretty easily
2557. # [20:33] <@ehsan> bz: ok
2558. # [20:33] <glandium> Waldo: \o/ thanks
2559. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> bsmith, yt?
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2561. # [20:33] <bsmith> I am here
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2563. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> bsmith, I've got Assertion failure: mCacheAsyncInputStream in gdb if that's any use to you
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2566. # [20:35] <bsmith> Ms2ger, I already have a fix for that bug
2567. # [20:35] <bsmith> thank you
2568. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> Excellent
2569. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> Get it landed already :)
2570. # [20:35] <glandium> bz: can't you just store the value instead of the jsval, and convert when you JS_DefineProperty ?
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2573. # [20:37] <geekboy> dveditz: do you know if there's a way to get the load context (e.g., "subdocument" or "image") from observers to the "http-on-examine-response" topic?
2574. # [20:38] <@dveditz> geekboy: dunno, sorry
2575. # [20:38] <@bz> glandium: at the point when we call JS_DefineProperty we don't know the type of the value
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2577. # [20:38] <@bz> glandium: it's not always a uint32!
2578. # [20:38] <@bz> glandium: just happens to be for this particular interface
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2581. # [20:39] <@bz> glandium: we could store the type in some enum, I guess, and switch inside the const-definition code...
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2584. # [20:39] <Waldo> bz: I think he means why not pass |cs->name, UINT_TO_JSVAL(cs->value)| in the call
2585. # [20:39] <@bz> because cs->value may not be a uint
2586. # [20:39] <Waldo> relatedly, typing cs-> is really really hard to do when cx-> rolls off the fingers that way
2587. # [20:39] <@bz> I thought I just said that
2588. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> You did
2589. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> However
2590. # [20:40] * fabrice is now known as fabrice|mtg
2591. # [20:40] <Waldo> I thought you meant the result of UINT_TO_JSVAL wasn't always a uint32_t
2592. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> Are there cases where we can't stick it into a uint32?
2593. # [20:40] <@bz> no, I meant the underlying type of the value can be whatever
2594. # [20:40] <@bz> Ms2ger: strings
2595. # [20:40] <@bz> Ms2ger: booleans
2596. # [20:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: enum values
2597. # [20:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: 64-bit ints
2598. # [20:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: float constants
2599. # [20:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: probably some others
2600. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> And in existing interfaces?
2601. # [20:41] <Waldo> we should be able to make UINT_TO_JSVAL and others expand to a constexpr {} initializer
2602. # [20:41] <@bz> existing in web platform or in our bindings so far?
2603. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> Former
2604. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> Though the latter makes for an easy existence proof
2605. # [20:42] <@bz> former certainly has float constants
2606. # [20:42] <@bz> oh, I lied
2607. # [20:43] <@bz> constants got restricted
2608. # [20:43] <@bz> so now:
2609. # [20:43] <@bz> The following types are known as primitive types: boolean, the integer types, float, unresticted float, double and unrestricted double.
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2611. # [20:43] <Ms2ger> Right
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2613. # [20:43] <@bz> The type of a constant (matching ConstType) MUST NOT be any type other than a primitive type or a nullable primitive type.
2614. # [20:43] <@bz> the point remains that we can't stick null or 5.5 in uint32
2615. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> Right
2616. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> Right
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2618. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> (Three times's the charm)
2619. # [20:44] <@bz> and in any case we'd need to communicate to the js engine whether our 0xffffffff bit pattern is -1 or UINT32_MAX
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2622. # [20:45] <@bz> we could store a union in the static data
2623. # [20:45] <Ms2ger> I know a 0xffffffff constant, I don't know a -1 one :)
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2625. # [20:45] <@bz> but statically initializing union members in C++ sanely is impossible
2626. # [20:45] <mayhemer> do I need to do anything special when doing push -f try from mozilla-release repository?
2627. # [20:45] <@bz> we could store uint as JSVAL_DOUBLE
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2629. # [20:45] <@bz> or something
2630. # [20:45] <@bz> but that still gives a static initializer, I bet
2631. # [20:46] <@bz> we could just use a char[8], make sure it's aligned, and reinterpret_cast like hell
2632. # [20:46] <@bz> the question is how much we want to do that
2633. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> Me? Not much :)
2634. # [20:47] <Waldo> we could also just macro up ourselves some constexpr and say that compilers/linkers that don't support it get static initializers
2635. # [20:47] <Waldo> which might only be gcc 4.2 now
2636. # [20:47] <@bz> worksforme
2637. # [20:47] <Waldo> and who uses that
2638. # [20:47] <@ted> can't wait till we can kill gcc 4.2
2639. # [20:47] <@ted> clang4life
2640. # [20:47] <Waldo> clangorgcc>4.2forlife
2641. # [20:48] * Waldo doesn't much care what people use if it's new enough
2642. # [20:48] <@ted> that'd be an awful long tattoo
2643. # [20:48] <Waldo> although clang is indeed happymaking
2644. # [20:48] <tbsaunde> so, out of curosity, don't the gcc people support using gcc > 4.2 on osx, so couldn't we do that if we wanted?
2645. # [20:48] <@ted> mostly i just want our mac builds not on an ancient compiler
2646. # [20:48] <@ted> tbsaunde: stock gcc != apple gcc
2647. # [20:49] <tbsaunde> ted: and there's a problem with stock gcc and mac headers or something?
2648. # [20:49] <@ted> not sure
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2650. # [20:49] <tbsaunde> I assume stock spits out reasonable match-o binaries atleast
2651. # [20:49] <@ted> but i'm sure there are lots of fiddly differences that will break shit :-/
2652. # [20:50] <@ted> yeah, that definitely works
2653. # [20:50] <tbsaunde> true
2654. # [20:50] <bdahl> dbaron: ping
2655. # [20:50] <@dbaron> bdahl, busy right now
2656. # [20:50] <bdahl> dbaron: when you get a chance i have some css @page questions
2657. # [20:50] <tbsaunde> ted: Idoesn't suprise me iether, but at some point it starts to look like a war worth fighting if it kills 4.2
2658. # [20:51] <@ted> tbsaunde: oh, we're just going to switch to clang
2659. # [20:51] <@ted> since that's what apple is shipping anyway
2660. # [20:51] <@ted> path of least resistance
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2662. # [20:52] <gaston> if you break gcc 4.2 you're going to make kitty sad :(
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2664. # [20:52] <froydnj> stock DTRT, but it's probably just easier to use apple-sanctioned stuff
2665. # [20:52] <bsmith> Ms2ger: bug 761228
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2667. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> bsmith, yeah, thanks!
2668. # [20:53] <tbsaunde> ted: is that actually going to happen?
2669. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> jduell, go review those patches :)
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2671. # [20:53] <tbsaunde> I mean for reals :)
2672. # [20:53] * jduell is on it
2673. # [20:54] <@bz> ehsan: sorry, being slow
2674. # [20:54] <@ehsan> bz: it's alright, I'm not in a rush :)
2675. # [20:54] <@bz> ehsan: my linux box can't actually build 64-bit, apparently, so recompiling 32-bit.....
2676. # [20:54] * @bz hopes _that_ will build
2677. # [20:54] <Ms2ger> ehsan, of course not, you're in Canada ;)
2678. # [20:54] <@bz> I should just update that box
2679. # [20:54] <Waldo> bz: I don't think Red Hat 7 is supported any more
2680. # [20:54] <@ehsan> bz: ok
2681. # [20:55] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm sorry ;)
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2687. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I heard the BBC claim recently that people from Iran were the smartest geeks around :)
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2689. # [20:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: it's true :P
2690. # [20:56] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: in fact, a recent study shows that is the upper limit on human intelligence ;)
2691. # [20:57] * @ehsan ducks
2692. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> Hah
2693. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> Fortunately I am inhuman, so that doesn't affect me :)
2694. # [20:58] <@ehsan> touche!
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2698. # [21:01] <jhammel|lunch> Ms2ger: forgot an 'e' at the end of 'inhumane'
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2703. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> jhammel|lunch, that too
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2705. # [21:07] <ahurle> tbsaunde: is there any magic to getting a single accessibility mochitest test to run locally?
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2707. # [21:07] <fryn> tbsaunde: we tried the line that you suggested here: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/accessibility/20120111#l-398
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2711. # [21:09] <tbsaunde> ahurle: fryn other than giving the right path I'm not aware of any
2712. # [21:09] <tbsaunde> what test do you want to run? and what path were you using?
2713. # [21:09] <ahurle> "TEST_PATH=accessible/tests/mochitest/events/test_focus_autocomplete.xul make -C objdir/ mochitest-a11y" is what I was using
2714. # [21:10] <ahurle> tbsaunde: ^
2715. # [21:10] <tbsaunde> ahurle: ah, get rid of tests/ in that path
2716. # [21:11] <tbsaunde> ahurle: oh, and mochitests/ so you want TEST_PATH=accessible/events/test_focus_lbah
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2718. # [21:11] <dzbarsky> ahurle: if you're not sure of a test path, you can just run the whole suite, stop it before it autostarts, and then go to mochi.test:8888/tests to find it
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2721. # [21:12] <mconley> BenWa: ping
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2723. # [21:12] <BenWa> mconley: pong
2724. # [21:13] <mconley> BenWa: hey - under which component should I be filing Profiler bugs?
2725. # [21:13] <BenWa> Core::Gecko Profiler
2726. # [21:13] <ahurle> tbsaunde: ah, that path does seem to work. Thank you!
2727. # [21:13] <BenWa> mconley: Did you get it working?
2728. # [21:13] <mconley> BenWa: ah, beautiful, thanks
2729. # [21:13] <mconley> BenWa: partially, yeah
2730. # [21:13] <BenWa> lets see
2731. # [21:14] <tbsaunde> ahurle: yw
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2735. # [21:15] <@smaug> BenWa: so what is the reason to keep profiler code in different branch?
2736. # [21:15] <@smaug> (if that is still true)
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2745. # [21:20] <BenWa> smaug: You mean the profiling branch?
2746. # [21:21] <BenWa> smaug: That's just m-c + frame pointers, which as discussed on dev.platform may just be enabled on m-c directly
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2748. # [21:21] <BenWa> You can actually profile directly on m-c but you'll get less useful information
2749. # [21:25] <@smaug> BenWa: but isn't frame pointers just something in .mozconfig ?
2750. # [21:25] <BenWa> smaug: Yes, we want to be able to profile nightly builds as well
2751. # [21:25] <@smaug> the d.platform is about Nightlies
2752. # [21:25] <@smaug> not about m-c
2753. # [21:25] <BenWa> so m-c + n enable-profiling will work
2754. # [21:25] <@smaug> ok
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2756. # [21:25] <BenWa> Yes exactly
2757. # [21:25] <@smaug> BenWa: and 64bit linux is supported?
2758. # [21:26] <BenWa> linux is crashy at the moment
2759. # [21:26] <BenWa> All other platforms work well
2760. # [21:26] <@bz> JavaScript warning: https://bug764166.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=632776, line 4: WebGL: Can't get a usable WebGL context
2761. # [21:26] <@bz> dammit
2762. # [21:26] <@bz> how am I supposed to test this?
2763. # [21:26] <@smaug> uh, /me still waits before testing profiling
2764. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> Hmm
2765. # [21:26] <BenWa> Linux already has decent profilers so it isnt my highest priority
2766. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: ping
2767. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> bz, set the force-webgl pref
2768. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> ?
2769. # [21:26] <@ehsan> bz: pong
2770. # [21:26] <@smaug> BenWa: what is the decent free profiler?
2771. # [21:27] <@smaug> Zoom is decent non-free profiler
2772. # [21:27] <@bz> ehsan: so one thing to check... you see the wrong values on ctx but not on the interface object?
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2774. # [21:27] <@bz> webgl.force-enabled
2775. # [21:27] <@bz> set it to true
2776. # [21:27] <@bz> do I need to restart?
2777. # [21:28] <@bz> still no gl
2778. # [21:28] <@dbaron> bz, so I posted a second patch to 764354
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2780. # [21:28] <@dbaron> bz, because the second approach feels a little safer to me
2781. # [21:28] <BenWa> smaug: Ohh I heard perf is good. I haven't been profiling on Linux myself
2782. # [21:28] <@ehsan> bz: lemme check
2783. # [21:28] <@dbaron> bz, could you have a look?
2784. # [21:28] <BenWa> smaug: If you have a bit of time you could help fix it up :)
2785. # [21:28] <@ehsan> bz: I'd ask bjacob about force enabling webgl
2786. # [21:29] <BenWa> smaug: it work but crash on fork or doesn't properly check when unwinding and crashes
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2789. # [21:29] <@bz> dbaron: looks reasonable
2790. # [21:30] <@bz> it's possible we just don't do webgl over remote X
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2792. # [21:30] <@ehsan> bz: how do I get the interface object?
2793. # [21:30] <@bz> ehsan: WebGLRenderingContext
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2796. # [21:30] <@smaug> BenWa: unfortunately I don't have time, and no knowledge about stack unwinding handling
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2798. # [21:31] <Waldo> bz: oh, erm, no, I don't think that'll work
2799. # [21:31] <@ehsan> bz: the web console says WebGLRenderingContext.ARRAY_BUFFER is undefined!
2800. # [21:31] <@bz> interesting
2801. # [21:31] * @bz goes to see what's up
2802. # [21:31] <Waldo> although I guess in *theory* remote X could be accelerated, but that seems like crazytalk
2803. # [21:31] * @smaug waits and uses sysprof to get at least hints where the time is spent
2804. # [21:31] <@bz> ok
2805. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hmm, web console
2806. # [21:31] <@bz> so that makes it a bit of a pain to test webgl on linux for me
2807. # [21:31] <@bz> gimme a sec
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2809. # [21:32] <@bz> yeah, the web console is just lying to you
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2811. # [21:32] <@bz> because it does Xrays
2812. # [21:32] <@bz> and this stuff is "expandos" as far as it knows
2813. # [21:33] <@ehsan> bz: ok let me modify the testcase then
2814. # [21:33] <@ehsan> bz: the interface returns 0x100 as well
2815. # [21:33] <@ehsan> (well, 256 to be precise)
2816. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> Ooh, ###!!! ASSERTION: Start parent and end parent give different root!: 'newRoot == IsValidBoundary(mEndParent)'
2817. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> That sure sounds fun
2818. # [21:34] <@bz> ehsan: iiiinteresting
2819. # [21:34] <@bz> ehsan: so you do know we have tests for this in the test suite, right? ;)
2820. # [21:34] <@bz> ehsan: I wonder wtf is going on
2821. # [21:35] <@ehsan> bz: I wonder the same
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2823. # [21:35] <blassey> bz: which patch on bug 764354 do you like better?
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2825. # [21:36] <@bz> blassey: the latter is probably safer as dbaron says
2826. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor++
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2834. # [21:42] <bjacob> ehsan: what?
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2836. # [21:42] <@ehsan> bjacob: talk to bz
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2838. # [21:43] <@bz> bjacob: any way I can force webgl to be enabled?
2839. # [21:43] <@bz> bjacob: just enough to get a context; I don't need drawing
2840. # [21:43] * @bz set webgl.force-enabled, but no luck
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2843. # [21:44] <@bz> hmm
2844. # [21:44] <bjacob> bz: that means that OpenGL context creation actually failed. we dont have a way of creating a dummy webgl context without opengl context although you could hack it
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2846. # [21:44] <@bz> "GLXtest process failed: Unable to load libGL.so.1"
2847. # [21:44] <bjacob> hah
2848. # [21:44] * @bz wonders what he needs to install
2849. # [21:44] <bjacob> bz: libgl-something
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2851. # [21:44] <bjacob> bz: or mesa-something
2852. # [21:44] <bjacob> bz: what gpu ?
2853. # [21:45] <hub> assigning a const nsString& to a nsString seems to cause an infinite recursion
2854. # [21:45] <hub> am I doing something wrong?
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2857. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> hub, well, if you have infinite recursion, yes :)
2858. # [21:46] <bjacob> bz: normally about all gpus, even nvida now, are handled out-of-the-box by mesa 8
2859. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> hub, pastebin your code? :)
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2863. # [21:48] <@bz> bjacob: dunno offhand
2864. # [21:48] <@bz> bjacob: let me poke around
2865. # [21:48] <bjacob> bz: lspci
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2867. # [21:49] <hub_> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661971
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2871. # [21:49] <@bz> nvidia corporation device 06fd (rev a1)
2872. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Fun
2873. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Who knows strings?
2874. # [21:50] <bjacob> bz: ok. looking it up
2875. # [21:50] * Ms2ger eyes the two b's
2876. # [21:50] <hub> Ms2ger: it sounds pretty trivial to me, and if it was invalid, then compilation should fail ;-)
2877. # [21:51] <@smaug> Ms2ger: bsmedberg
2878. # [21:51] <@smaug> I know something
2879. # [21:52] <bjacob> bz: NVidia NVS 295 according to google. If your distro has mesa 8 (like ubuntu 12.04 does) i'd try it first, otherwise if it's convenient to install the binary driver do that
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2881. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> smaug, enough to explain the infinite recursion in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661971 ? :)
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2883. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> hub: are you assigning the string to itself?
2884. # [21:52] <@bz> I have mesa 7.7
2885. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> It doesn't look that way
2886. # [21:52] <@bz> and installing the binary driver is a bit of a pain
2887. # [21:52] <bjacob> bz: ouch.
2888. # [21:53] <hub> bsmedberg: no
2889. # [21:53] <@bz> well
2890. # [21:53] <@bz> "can have"
2891. # [21:53] * @bz installs mesa for a start
2892. # [21:53] <hub> bsmedberg: the pastebin show that I declare nsString text and assign what TextLeafAccessible::Text() returns
2893. # [21:53] <bjacob> bz: mesa 7.7 won't have a decent nvidia GL drivet
2894. # [21:54] <@bz> I don't care about decent
2895. # [21:54] <@bz> I just need a glcontext
2896. # [21:54] <@bz> not actual rendering
2897. # [21:54] <bjacob> bz: even just getting a context is not sure. you need the 'nouveau' package if you want to try
2898. # [21:54] <@dbaron> is it possible that bugzilla.m.o could show me a bug report in less than 15 seconds?
2899. # [21:55] <jlebar> foo.bind('x', undefined) is exactly the same as foo.bind('x'), right?
2900. # [21:55] <@bz> hmm
2901. # [21:55] <bjacob> nouveau only got decent about 2 years after your version
2902. # [21:55] <@bz> so mesa gave me a libOSMesa
2903. # [21:55] <bjacob> oh that works
2904. # [21:55] <@bz> but not a libGL
2905. # [21:55] <bjacob> yeah
2906. # [21:55] <bjacob> so
2907. # [21:55] <bjacob> go to about:config
2908. # [21:55] <@bz> and flip the "force mesa" pref?
2909. # [21:55] <bjacob> set webgl.osmesalib to libOSMesa.so.6 or whatever the filename without dir is
2910. # [21:55] <bjacob> that shouldnt even be needed
2911. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> hub: so you're hitting the case in nsTSubstring_Char
2912. # [21:56] <@bsmedberg> ::Assign where the current string is dependent on the incoming data
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2914. # [21:56] <@bz> bjacob: trying
2915. # [21:56] <hub> bsmedberg: I'm wondering if the string is actually valid at that point
2916. # [21:56] <hub> :-/
2917. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> hub: what type is "mText"?
2918. # [21:57] <bjacob> bz: osmesa support was my first mozilla patch as my card wasnt supported then :)
2919. # [21:57] <hub> bsmedberg: nsString
2920. # [21:57] <@bz> hmm
2921. # [21:57] * @bz tries to figure out the right filename here
2922. # [21:57] <lmandel> bsmedberg: I'm getting an error with your k9o triage dashboard. "There was an error: TypeError: gConfiguration.field[field] is undefined" Any recent changes?
2923. # [21:57] <bjacob> bz: libOSMesa.so.6 almost certainly... find will tell
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2925. # [21:58] <@bz> yeah
2926. # [21:58] <@bz> I think I need to install 32-bit mesa
2927. # [21:58] <@bz> since this is a 32-bit build
2928. # [21:58] <@bz> one sec
2929. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg> lmandel: no, but it's possible that bugzilla changed products/components and it hasn't been updated
2930. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg> lmandel: let me check
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2932. # [21:59] <tbsaunde> so, hub bsmedberg wouldn't it be better to use nsDependantString string = mGeckoAcc->Text() there assuming you don't need to modify the string there?
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2934. # [21:59] <hub> tbsaunde: I can try that indeed
2935. # [21:59] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: not really, it should just be a buffer-addref
2936. # [21:59] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: assuming the buffer is valid, of course!
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2938. # [21:59] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: what is mText.mData?
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2940. # [22:00] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: ask hub, I ahve no idea
2941. # [22:00] <@bz> ehsan: ping
2942. # [22:00] <@bsmedberg> oh bah, getting people confused
2943. # [22:00] <@bz> ehsan: so now I have this working
2944. # [22:00] <@bz> ehsan: with MESA
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2946. # [22:00] <@bz> ehsan: and the test passes for me...
2947. # [22:00] <hub> bsmedberg: at that point I have no idea, but let me restart
2948. # [22:00] <@bz> ehsan: the one you attached to the bug
2949. # [22:01] <hub> bsmedberg: the debugger is hosed, as usual
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2953. # [22:03] <bjacob> ehsan: bz: i can't reproduce either, the testcase says 34963 for me
2954. # [22:03] <@bz> bjacob: on Linux?
2955. # [22:03] <@bz> bjacob: 32-bit or 64-bit build?
2956. # [22:03] <bjacob> bz: linux 64 bit
2957. # [22:03] <@bz> interesting
2958. # [22:03] <@bz> so what's up with Ehsan's build?
2959. # [22:04] <@bz> ehsan: what compiler?
2960. # [22:04] <bjacob> ehsan: suggest valgrinding on your machine
2961. # [22:04] * @bz too
2962. # [22:04] <Waldo> haha, ehsan owns rdf!
2963. # [22:05] <bjacob> bz: do you know where in memory the values of IDL enums are stored? so we could set a watchpoint?
2964. # [22:05] <bjacob> oh right sorry, they become c++ enums so it's code
2965. # [22:05] <@bz> this isn't an enum
2966. # [22:06] <froydnj> ehsan needs to make better investments
2967. # [22:06] <@bz> it's an interface constant
2968. # [22:06] <@bz> bjacob: or are you talking about something else?
2969. # [22:06] <@ehsan> bz: ok so you can't repro?
2970. # [22:06] <@bz> ehsan: no (in a 32-bit build)
2971. # [22:06] <@ehsan> oh
2972. # [22:06] * @bz double-checks that it's a new enough build
2973. # [22:06] <@ehsan> I'm using a 64-bit build
2974. # [22:07] <bjacob> bz: no i was talking about that - sorry
2975. # [22:07] * @bz can't build 64-bit because of glib suck
2976. # [22:07] <@ehsan> bz: can I help you debug this somehow?
2977. # [22:07] <@bz> bjacob: I can point to the code that sets this thing up
2978. # [22:07] <@bz> ehsan: maybe
2979. # [22:07] <@bz> ehsan: valgrind it if you can?
2980. # [22:07] <@bsmedberg> lmandel: I think it's fixed now
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2983. # [22:08] <@bz> yes
2984. # [22:08] <@bz> this build has the new bindings
2985. # [22:08] <@bz> so that part is sane
2986. # [22:08] <@ehsan> ah, I bet I need to build with --enable-valgrind, right?
2987. # [22:08] <bjacob> bz: sorry, i meant these constants become enums in the c++ header generated by the idl ,s so from there on it's only code right?
2988. # [22:08] <@bz> ehsan: another interesting option is to check what actually gets defined
2989. # [22:08] <lmandel> bsmedberg: I still see the error. I'll have to check again in a bit.
2990. # [22:09] <@bz> bjacob: in the old setup, yes
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2992. # [22:09] <@bz> bjacob: in the new setup we do nothing interesting with them on the c++ side so far
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2994. # [22:10] <@ehsan> bz: the enum in the dist/include header is fine
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3000. # [22:10] <@bz> ehsan: that enum is irrelevant here; one sec
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3003. # [22:11] <@bz> so breakpoint in mozilla::dom::WebGLRenderingContextBinding::CreateInterfaceObjects
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3005. # [22:11] <@bz> and run
3006. # [22:11] <@bz> this should only get hit when we getContext() there
3007. # [22:11] <@bz> I hope
3008. # [22:12] <@bz> let me know when you hit that breakpoint?
3009. # [22:12] <Optimizer> I have a xul structure like this : <vbox1> <vbox2 /> <vbox3 /></vbox1> and both vbox1 and vbox2 have scroll:auto.
3010. # [22:12] <Optimizer> vbox2 has max-height 100px and vbox1 has 200px. vbox2 has content that takes up 400px.
3011. # [22:12] <Optimizer> The problem now is that there are 2 scrollbars , both in vbox2 and vbox1 while I think vbox1 should not have that
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3013. # [22:13] <testman42> Hi. I just noticed that my "main menu" is on the right instead of left. Tried left click -> Customize... , but it WILL NOT move. What to do? Screenshot: http://shrani.si/f/13/tD/3FcVUrZl/ff.png
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3020. # [22:14] <Optimizer> testman42: must be some addon
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3023. # [22:15] <testman42> I have just ShortenURL addon, nothing more
3024. # [22:15] <@ehsan> bz: ok, hit it
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3028. # [22:16] <@bz> ehsan: ok. what does sConstants_specs[37] look like?
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3030. # [22:17] <jwir3> akeybl: ping?
3031. # [22:17] <@ehsan> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661986
3032. # [22:17] <@ehsan> I see some 0x100's there!
3033. # [22:17] <@bz> ok
3034. # [22:17] <@bz> yes
3035. # [22:17] <@bz> the value is just wrong
3036. # [22:17] <@ehsan> \o/
3037. # [22:18] <@bz> ok, then
3038. # [22:18] <@bz> let's figure out why
3039. # [22:18] <@ehsan> alright
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3041. # [22:18] <akeybl> hey jwir3
3042. # [22:18] <@bz> UINT_TO_JSVAL(34963)
3043. # [22:19] <@bz> static JS_ALWAYS_INLINE jsval
3044. # [22:19] <@bz> UINT_TO_JSVAL(uint32_t i)
3045. # [22:19] <@bz> {
3046. # [22:19] <@bz> if (i <= JSVAL_INT_MAX)
3047. # [22:19] <@bz> return INT_TO_JSVAL((int32_t)i);
3048. # [22:19] <@bz> return DOUBLE_TO_JSVAL((double)i);
3049. # [22:19] <@bz> }
3050. # [22:19] <jwir3> akeybl: Sorry to bother you, but when you get a chance, could you look at the approval requests for bug 733614? They are all backout patches.
3051. # [22:19] <@bz> it's certainly getting set as an int
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3053. # [22:19] <@bz> but with totally the wrong value
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3055. # [22:19] <@bz> unless uint32_t happens to be 1 byte here somehow? ;)
3056. # [22:20] <akeybl> jwir3: definitely
3057. # [22:20] <akeybl> I'd seen it, but also saw review?(dbaron)
3058. # [22:20] <@ehsan> bz: that gives me the right thing
3059. # [22:20] <@bz> ok
3060. # [22:20] <akeybl> onn the beta patch - wasn't sure if that needed to be resolved
3061. # [22:20] <@ted> ehsan: hey, so uh
3062. # [22:20] <jwir3> akeybl: Yeah, only one of them is still r?
3063. # [22:20] <@bz> I wonder whether we can breakpoint in UINT_TO_JSVAL
3064. # [22:20] <akeybl> ok awesome
3065. # [22:20] <@ted> i just talked to one of the google engineers that worked on their metro support
3066. # [22:20] <@ted> they're building with vc2010
3067. # [22:20] <@bz> and see what happens there during startup
3068. # [22:20] <@ted> and patching the win8 SDK headers
3069. # [22:20] <jwir3> akeybl: And, it's actually probably unnecessary, because he's already reviewed the exact same patch on another branch
3070. # [22:20] <jwir3> akeybl: Thanks!
3071. # [22:21] <@ted> jimm: also you
3072. # [22:21] <@ehsan> bz: I can't break on startup, cause I can no longer run gdb as non-root :(
3073. # [22:22] <@bz> hrmph
3074. # [22:22] <@ehsan> ted: patching them how?
3075. # [22:22] <jlebar> Errors in BrowserElementParent.js (a JS component) seem to be silently swallowed. Can I fix this somehow?
3076. # [22:22] <@ted> ehsan: not totally clear, but he said he'd send me details
3077. # [22:22] <@bz> I assume running Firefox as root is undesirable? ;)
3078. # [22:22] <@ted> he said it was pretty minor tweaks to get it to build with 2010
3079. # [22:22] <@bz> so anyway
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3081. # [22:22] <@ehsan> bz: well, it doesn't launch
3082. # [22:22] <@bz> either the UINT_TO_JSVAL call did the wrong thing
3083. # [22:22] <jlebar> (As if debugging JS was not annoying enough.)
3084. # [22:22] <akeybl> jwir3: approved
3085. # [22:22] <@bz> or that something stomped on the memory somehow
3086. # [22:23] <@ehsan> ted: so I think that makes us unable to use some of the compiler features
3087. # [22:23] <jwir3> akeybl: Thank you!
3088. # [22:23] <@ehsan> which is why this was not an ideal solutio
3089. # [22:23] <@ehsan> *solution
3090. # [22:23] <@bz> any other hypotheses? ;)
3091. # [22:23] <jimm> ted: they aren't using component extensions though. to switch to vc2010 we would have to revamp the metro code down in widget pretty heavily.
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3093. # [22:23] <@ehsan> bz: I'd put my money on the latter
3094. # [22:23] <@ted> jimm: hrm
3095. # [22:23] <@ehsan> bz: cause I'm assuming that UINT_TO_JSVAL doesn't change its behavior at runtime
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3097. # [22:23] <@ted> i don't know what any of that means, so i don't have a great comeback
3098. # [22:23] <@ehsan> and calling it in the debugger does the right thing ;)
3099. # [22:24] <@bz> ehsan: yeah, so valgrind seems like the best option
3100. # [22:24] <@bz> ehsan: well it's _possible_ the static initializer is passing garbage into UINT_TO_JSVAL
3101. # [22:24] <@ehsan> bz: ok, let me do a rebuild then
3102. # [22:24] <@ehsan> oh hmm
3103. # [22:24] <@ehsan> wait
3104. # [22:24] <@ted> jimm: anyway, he promised to send me some more details about what they're doing
3105. # [22:24] <@bz> ehsan: it's a bit weird for this to be stomping: the pointer to the string is fine
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3107. # [22:25] <@bz> ehsan: and the jsval is a perfectly valid jsval for the int 256
3108. # [22:25] <jimm> ted: turning that off and building with vc2010 is certainly an option, but the code we would have to write would be pretty gross, and the apis mostly undocumented. However the amount of code we use there isn't that large so if we had to do it we could.
3109. # [22:25] <@bz> ehsan: and this is all down the array, right?
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3111. # [22:25] <@ehsan> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1661991
3112. # [22:25] <@ehsan> see a pattern there? ;)
3113. # [22:26] <@ehsan> ted: ok please keep me in the loop
3114. # [22:26] <@ehsan> bz: seems like the string pointer is the only thing that is consistent
3115. # [22:26] <@ehsan> so maybe it's not memory corruption...
3116. # [22:28] <@bz> yeah
3117. # [22:28] <@ted> ehsan: will do
3118. # [22:28] <@bz> that's what I was just thinking
3119. # [22:28] <@bz> wait
3120. # [22:28] <jwir3> akeybl: Can I assume that they are approved for beta and aurora as well?
3121. # [22:28] * @bz looks up the structure here
3122. # [22:29] <@bz> 0x2c8aae89, 0x7f40,
3123. # [22:29] <@bz> I guess that's the string pointer
3124. # [22:29] <@bz> ok
3125. # [22:29] <@ehsan> yeah
3126. # [22:29] <@bz> so yeah
3127. # [22:29] <@ehsan> ok
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3129. # [22:30] <@ehsan> I managed to set a breakpoint in UINT_TO_JSVAL!
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3131. # [22:30] <@bz> so that makes "broken static initializer" a more likely culprit....
3132. # [22:30] <akeybl> jwir3: if we take of the r? flag I can a+
3133. # [22:30] <@ehsan> which is called from the static initialized
3134. # [22:30] <akeybl> off*
3135. # [22:30] <@ehsan> *er
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3137. # [22:30] <jwir3> akeybl: Yeah, no problem. JUst a second
3138. # [22:31] <@ehsan> bz: guess what? it's parameter is 256!
3139. # [22:31] <@bz> ok
3140. # [22:31] <@bz> so wtf are you static initializers thinking?
3141. # [22:31] <@bz> s/your/your compiler's/
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3143. # [22:31] <@bz> fwiw, we could move away from static initializers here
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3145. # [22:32] <jwir3> akeybl: Done. :)
3146. # [22:32] <@bz> by the simple expedient of more data tables and runtime init
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3148. # [22:32] <@ehsan> bz: look at this:
3149. # [22:32] <@ehsan> bz: mov $0x100,%edi
3150. # [22:32] <@ehsan> this is where the value is coming from!
3151. # [22:33] <@bz> hmm
3152. # [22:33] <@ehsan> compiler bug?
3153. # [22:33] <@bz> can I ask you to test something?
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3155. # [22:33] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
3156. # [22:33] <@ehsan> oh yeah
3157. # [22:33] <@ehsan> sure
3158. # [22:33] <@bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/webidl/WebGLRenderingContext.webidl#60
3159. # [22:33] <@bz> Change thatvalue
3160. # [22:33] <jwir3> akeybl: Thanks much!
3161. # [22:33] <akeybl> jwir3: you're good togo
3162. # [22:33] <@bz> er, that value
3163. # [22:33] <@bz> rebuild
3164. # [22:33] <@bz> see if the new value gets stomped on everything?
3165. # [22:34] <@bz> (that's the first value in the list, and just happesns to be 0x100)
3166. # [22:34] <@ehsan> oh wait
3167. # [22:34] <@ehsan> this is also the first call to UINT_TO_JSVAL
3168. # [22:34] <@bz> ok
3169. # [22:34] <@bz> well, "cont"
3170. # [22:35] <@ehsan> hmm
3171. # [22:35] <@ehsan> ok now this is weird
3172. # [22:35] * @bz had missed that part at first
3173. # [22:35] <@ehsan> that is the _only_ call to UINT_TO_JSVAL!
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3175. # [22:35] <@bz> _very_ interesting
3176. # [22:35] * @ehsan checks his sanity
3177. # [22:35] <@bz> looking at the generated C++ there should be a bajillion of them
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3180. # [22:36] <@ehsan> yes
3181. # [22:36] <@ehsan> there definitely is
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3183. # [22:36] <@ehsan> oh noes
3184. # [22:36] <@ehsan> I had disabled the bp somehow
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3186. # [22:36] <@ehsan> restarting causes bajillions of those calls
3187. # [22:36] <@ehsan> all with 0x100
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3191. # [22:37] <@ehsan> bz: let me try to compile this file with another compiler :)
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3196. # [22:39] <BenB> BenWa: hey... I hear the Gecko profiler is your baby.
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3198. # [22:39] <hub> bsmedberg: if I try to use directly the string without assigning it, it crashes too, so the problem is likely in our code here....
3199. # [22:39] <BenB> can it also profile RAM use? this is what we have most issues with (with we = Thunderbird, as well as other XUL applications)
3200. # [22:39] <@bsmedberg> yeah, ok
3201. # [22:39] <hub> bsmedberg: mLength has a value that's not reasonable
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3203. # [22:40] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that sounds right
3204. # [22:40] <hub> (in the string)
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3210. # [22:41] <BenWa> BenB: It's planned at some point
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3213. # [22:41] <BenWa> BenB: Maybe provide a RAM graph along the sample graph to show ram usage over time and be able to roughly see what were doing when the RAM usage is changing
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3217. # [22:42] <BenWa> BenB: Don't expect it anytime soon (several months). So if you want it you'll have to find someone that can write the patches
3218. # [22:42] <BenB> BenWa: yeah... something that shows who's the worst RAM-eating culprit and where we can optimize to use less RAM.
3219. # [22:42] <BenB> BenWa: mostly, that would be JavaScript, and C++ stuff triggered by JavaScript callers.
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3222. # [22:44] <BenWa> BenB: The problem with correlating RAM usage with sampling it wont show you whos allocating
3223. # [22:44] <BenB> yes
3224. # [22:44] <@bz> ehsan: what compiler is involved?
3225. # [22:44] <@ehsan> bz: clang :(
3226. # [22:44] <BenWa> There's stuff we can do but I rather focus on profiling before I move to looking at memory
3227. # [22:44] <BenB> BenWa: I'd like to point to a JS function and say: "YOU! You eat 50 MB RAM!"
3228. # [22:44] <@bz> ehsan: ah
3229. # [22:45] <@bz> ehsan: so my linux builds are with gcc at the moment
3230. # [22:45] <BenB> BenWa: including any C++ references the JS code holds.
3231. # [22:45] <@bz> ehsan: so yes, this might be a clang bug....
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3233. # [22:45] <BenWa> BenB: Well if you're interesting in writing the patch I would take it. You need to provide a way to get current ram usage that is signal safe and cross platform, and some UI work to graph it
3234. # [22:45] <@ehsan> bz: it is, I recompiled the binding file with gcc and relinked, and the bug is gone
3235. # [22:45] <BenB> BenWa: nope, sorry, I can't help.
3236. # [22:46] <@ehsan> bz: I'll update the bug
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3238. # [22:46] <BenB> BenWa: this is just feedback what devs (and users) need.
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3249. # [22:51] <@bz> ehsan: thanks
3250. # [22:51] <@ehsan> bz: sorry for wasting your time :)
3251. # [22:52] <@bz> ehsan: not a waste
3252. # [22:53] <jlebar> BenB, This seems like something we could handle in the JS engine.
3253. # [22:53] <@bz> ehsan: good reminder to not trust the machine. ;)
3254. # [22:53] <@ehsan> heh
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3256. # [22:53] <jlebar> BenB, You set a pref or whatever, and then all allocations above some size are tagged with a backtrace.
3257. # [22:53] * @ehsan hopes that this is fixed on clang ToT
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3260. # [22:53] <jlebar> BenB, In addition, smaller allocations are also tagged, with some probability.
3261. # [22:54] <jlebar> BenB, Then we can surface that data in about:memory or wherever.
3262. # [22:54] <BenB> jlebar: yeah, whatever way works.
3263. # [22:54] * jlebar was not volunteering to do this.
3264. # [22:54] <jlebar> :)
3265. # [22:55] <BenB> jlebar: but it would be necessary to also track which C++ objects the JS objects hold
3266. # [22:55] <Optimizer> can anyone help me with nested vbox problem ?
3267. # [22:55] <jlebar> BenB, Mm, indeed.
3268. # [22:55] <jlebar> BenB, Are you trying to use this to debug reproducable problems?
3269. # [22:55] <BenB> Optimizer: I thought that wasn't supported on most CPUs
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3271. # [22:55] <jlebar> lol
3272. # [22:56] <jlebar> I don't think that's what he meant.
3273. # [22:56] <fryn> Optimizer: why are you nesting vboxes?
3274. # [22:56] <Optimizer> not virtual box
3275. # [22:56] <jlebar> Although BenB++
3276. # [22:56] <Optimizer> vbox, an xul tag
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3278. # [22:56] <fryn> Optimizer: yes, i understand. if you have <vbox><foo/><vbox><bar/><baz/></vbox></vbox>
3279. # [22:56] <fryn> you should flatten it.
3280. # [22:57] <BenB> jlebar: no, I just want to know why 1. Thunderbird leaks like a sieve 2. a certain XUL app uses more RAM in FF 12 than (say) FF4 3. FF mem usage jumps by 50 MB when I start a certain website, and how that website could improve.
3281. # [22:57] <BenB> Optimizer: oh, lol, sorry.
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3283. # [22:57] <jlebar> BenB, A lot of that information is already surfaced in about:memory.
3284. # [22:58] <jlebar> You don't get stack traces, it's true. If you're debugging a certain website, you could even use the chrome debugger.
3285. # [22:58] <jlebar> er, s/chrome/Google Chrome
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3287. # [22:59] <BenB> jlebar: "Google Chrome" Did you mean "Firefox"?
3288. # [22:59] <@smaug> BenB: for 1. debug the leaks. a memory profiler won't fix anything
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3290. # [22:59] <BenB> smaug: well, that's what this is for.
3291. # [22:59] <jlebar> BenB, No, I meant, load up Chrome and look at the site's memory usage in their memory profiler.
3292. # [23:00] <jlebar> smaug, I don't think he actually meant "leaks".
3293. # [23:00] <@smaug> are you talking about runtime leaks or shutdown leaks ?
3294. # [23:00] <jlebar> smaug, I think he meant "Thunderbird uses a bunch of memory."
3295. # [23:00] <BenB> jlebar: I know, I was joking. "No such thing as Google Chrome, but I know Firefox"
3296. # [23:00] <@smaug> well, 1. was about leaking
3297. # [23:00] <BenB> smaug: runtime
3298. # [23:00] <@smaug> create CC log of TB and analyze it
3299. # [23:00] <jlebar> smaug, Like I said, I don't think BenB has any reason to believe thunderbird is actually "leaking" memory, by what you or I mean by that.
3300. # [23:01] <@smaug> create JS dump log and analyze it
3301. # [23:01] <@smaug> jlebar: yeah, maybe
3302. # [23:01] <jlebar> It's "using" memory.
3303. # [23:01] <BenB> jlebar: Thunderbird really is leaking (as in: using forever more RAM, with the same tasks) about 100 MB/day.
3304. # [23:02] <jlebar> BenB, That's still not necessarily a leak that you're going to find by analyzing JS stacks.
3305. # [23:02] <jlebar> BenB, Memory can increase for lots of reasons, not just leaks.
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3308. # [23:02] <jlebar> BenB, For example, allocator fragmentation.
3309. # [23:02] <BenB> jlebar: well, 1 GB after 10 days, 2 GB after 20 days, etc.
3310. # [23:02] <jlebar> BenB, If you want to figure this out, you should get about:memory working in thunderbird.
3311. # [23:02] <jlebar> BenB, I say that as someone who's worked on MemShrink for the past year now.
3312. # [23:02] <BenB> jlebar: well, if the JS engine was the culprit, that'd be poor and sad. I assumed that's not the case.
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3314. # [23:03] <BenB> jlebar: appreciated
3315. # [23:03] <@smaug> I'd assume TB just keeps lots of JS objects alive
3316. # [23:03] <@smaug> and not release them ever
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3318. # [23:03] <BenB> smaug: which would be a leak
3319. # [23:03] <@smaug> well, depends
3320. # [23:03] <jlebar> That's quite possible. And about:memory will give you some indication of what's going on.
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3322. # [23:04] <@smaug> perhaps it actually uses those objects
3323. # [23:04] <@smaug> for search or something
3324. # [23:04] <BenB> smaug: if I do the same thing every day, and it needs 1 GB after 10 days, and 2 GB after 20 days, there's something seriously wrong somewhere.
3325. # [23:05] <@smaug> sure
3326. # [23:05] <BenB> jlebar: bug 708530
3327. # [23:05] <jlebar> BenB, It's just a question of the word "leak", which means something very specific to us.
3328. # [23:05] <@smaug> BenB: are there shutdown leaks?
3329. # [23:05] <@smaug> I'd start fixing shutdown leaks
3330. # [23:05] <BenB> jlebar: well, as I said, I assumed that these are JS objects that TB hangs on to for some technical reason, but never uses anymore.
3331. # [23:05] <@smaug> and then check cc logs and fix the leaks it possibly shows
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3333. # [23:06] <BenB> jlebar: but the reason could be anything, up to mem fragmentation in the JS engine of malloc
3334. # [23:06] <BenB> s/of/or/
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3338. # [23:08] <@ted> josh: ping
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3340. # [23:09] <florian> smaug: yes, Tb has large shutdown leaks :(
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3343. # [23:10] <@smaug> florian: anyone looking at to fix those
3344. # [23:11] <florian> there's some discussion in bug 738778, but nobody with a clear plan of how to fix them
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3346. # [23:11] <florian> I started by fixing the JS errors related to observers, but that didn't help with the leaks, just made shutdown logs less noisy
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3349. # [23:12] <@smaug> florian: wrong bug?
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3351. # [23:12] <Standard8> florian: one place to start is probably trace-malloc
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3353. # [23:12] <florian> irving seemed interested in working on that (he suspects the cause could be a race condition in the order in which some services shutdown)
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3355. # [23:13] <josh> ted: pong
3356. # [23:13] <Standard8> I think somewhere along the lines ages ago, we regressed that somehow
3357. # [23:13] <@smaug> Standard8: I'd start from XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG
3358. # [23:13] <@ted> josh: smooney was coming to look for you
3359. # [23:13] <Standard8> smaug: iirc, that's zero on our bloat builds, though I might be wrong
3360. # [23:14] <@ted> to see if you wanted to talk about network crash issues etc
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3362. # [23:14] <@smaug> Standard8: oh, so no that kinds of leaks
3363. # [23:14] <@smaug> I wonder what you're then leaking
3364. # [23:14] <@smaug> on shutdown
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3366. # [23:15] <@smaug> (although runtime leaks are more important, yet trickier to fix)
3367. # [23:15] <florian> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1662020
3368. # [23:15] <@smaug> that is XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG
3369. # [23:15] <florian> that's what I have with XPCOM_MEM_LEAK_LOG when I just start and then shutdown my Mac debug Tb build without doing anything with it
3370. # [23:15] <Standard8> florian: is that just a start & shutdown?
3371. # [23:15] <Standard8> ouch
3372. # [23:16] <@ted> smooney: found josh
3373. # [23:16] <@ted> he's here
3374. # [23:16] <Standard8> smaug: florian: that's the world :-(
3375. # [23:16] <@smaug> yeah, if you leak an nsGlobalWindow, you end up leaking a lot
3376. # [23:16] <@smaug> document etc
3377. # [23:16] <florian> Standard8: a few months ago, that happened only if the 3 pane view tab wasn't focused at shutdown (ie if the add-on manager or the chat tab was selected). Now that's all the time.
3378. # [23:17] <@smaug> leaking nsDocShell is suspicious
3379. # [23:17] <@smaug> fixing that might fix a lot other problems
3380. # [23:18] <florian> Standard8: that's what we discussed in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738778 "Every time I close my debug/trunk Thunderbird, I get a couple of Javascript exception messages followed by a pile of warnings, leak reports, and other signs of a non-clean shutdown."
3381. # [23:19] <florian> smaug: my concern at this point is that we leak so much by default that I can't know if the code I'm adding leaks or not ;)
3382. # [23:19] <@smaug> florian: which is why someone should get the shutdown leaks fixed
3383. # [23:19] <@smaug> FF used to leak on shutdown
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3385. # [23:20] <@smaug> now it is not, at least not usually
3386. # [23:20] <florian> smaug: I would be willing to be that someone, if I knew were to start
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3391. # [23:20] <florian> smaug: what I've done to fix the leaks in my chat code is that I just tested it in Instantbird which doesn't leak at shutdown by default :) But that doesn't seem like an acceptable long term solution
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3393. # [23:21] <@smaug> florian: at least you could check what is leaked atm, and not leak more :)
3394. # [23:21] <@smaug> 4 globalwindows is enough
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3396. # [23:22] <florian> I think most of my code lives in the global windows that are already leaked though :)
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3400. # [23:24] <Standard8> well one place to start is that -addressbook doesn't leak
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3402. # [23:25] <florian> Standard8: ah, interesting :)
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3406. # [23:26] <florian> Standard8: if I open the compose window from the address book, it leaks
3407. # [23:26] <Standard8> florian: yeah
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3419. # [23:30] <KaiRo> josh: https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/rkaiser/2012-06-12/2012-06-12.firefox.beta.13.0.components.html#netwerk
3420. # [23:31] <bjacob> i had a weird idea the other day to solve the void* static_cast loophole (that reinterpret_cast can be implemented just with static_cast by going through void*) ... there should be two different void* pointer types: "initial void*" that could be static_casted to any ptr type, and "final void*" that any ptr type could be static_casted to. So malloc() would return an initial void* and free() would take a final void*. Sound like a good idea?
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3432. # [23:36] <jlebar> bjacob, A good idea for what?
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3437. # [23:38] <bjacob> jlebar: for c++ :) to solve the problem that static_cast allows to easily implement reinterpret_cast
3438. # [23:38] <jlebar> bjacob, I just mean, as a modification to the language?
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3440. # [23:38] <bjacob> jlebar: yes :)
3441. # [23:38] <bjacob> pie-in-the-sky
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3443. # [23:39] <jlebar> bjacob, That's not very C/C++-like, is it?
3444. # [23:39] <bjacob> jlebar: no? ok
3445. # [23:39] <jlebar> bjacob, That's kind of fancy-type-theory-y.
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3449. # [23:39] <jlebar> bjacob, I dunno...I can't think of any other type features like that in the language.
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3457. # [23:45] <KaiRo> josh: https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/rkaiser/2012-06-12/2012-06-12.firefox.release.13.0.components.html#netwerk
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3472. # [23:53] <bjacob> jrmuizel: ping, what's the bug # for certain-devices-dont-allow-more-than-8-contexts-globally
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3475. # [23:53] <jrmuizel> bjacob: sort of bug 754257
3476. # [23:53] <jrmuizel> bjacob: what are you looking for more specifically?
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3478. # [23:55] <bjacob> jrmuizel: just adding a comment around the return nsnull in GetGlobalContext
3479. # [23:56] <jrmuizel> bjacob: there's not a great place to put that
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3481. # [23:57] <bjacob> jrmuizel: you mean not a great bug to mention?
3482. # [23:57] <bjacob> i mention the tegra bug already anyway
3483. # [23:57] <jrmuizel> yeah
3484. # [23:57] <jrmuizel> sorry
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3486. # [23:58] <bjacob> jrmuizel: seems like we need to opt out of global context on windows as well. we shouldn't use it anyway there
3487. # [23:58] <jrmuizel> there's isn't a great place to put a comment about returning null form GetGlobalContext
3488. # [23:58] <jrmuizel> bjacob: sounds reasonable to me
3489. # [23:58] <jrmuizel> down with share groups
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3491. # [23:59] <bjacob> jrmuizel: what's the plan with mac once we do omtc? is there a CGL equivalent of EGLImage? is that IOSurface?
3492. # [23:59] <jrmuizel> yes IOSurface should do fine
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3494. # [23:59] <jrmuizel> bjacob: share groups also work ok on OS X
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3496. # [23:59] <bjacob> jrmuizel: ken pointed to a couple nasty race conditions with IOSurface with multiple threads/processes and workarounds for them... ping me when we're there
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