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# Session Start: Wed Jun 20 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <mbrubeck> gregglind: You can pull from one into the other, I think...
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# [00:00] <gregglind> how do i fake the file path stuff?
# [00:01] <mbrubeck> oops, nope
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# [00:01] <espindola> ehsan, I don't think so, what are you trying to do?
# [00:01] <mbrubeck> "abort: repository is unrelated"
# [00:01] <espindola> the method is declared final
# [00:01] <@ehsan> espindola: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705541#c6
# [00:01] <espindola> and you then try to override it ...
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# [00:01] <gregglind> mbrubeck, my best idea so far is to cp -r the second one in, then do a diff.
# [00:01] <@ehsan> espindola: I'm trying to see if there's anywhere at all to do what the second paragraph there suggests
# [00:01] <gregglind> or rsync it rather
# [00:02] <mbrubeck> gregglind: Is there a reason you need to use hg diff instead of just diff?
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# [00:02] <gregglind> I need to make a patch for central
# [00:02] <mbrubeck> gregglind: Ah, you can use "hg pull -f" to pull an unrelated repo
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# [00:02] <mayhemer> philor|away: Phil, how exactly to use spidermonkey.sh ?
# [00:03] <espindola> ehsan, I still don't follow, so it found a case that should not be overriding a method but is?
# [00:03] <mbrubeck> gregglind: If the trees share a common ancestry, then you can just use "hg pull"
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# [00:03] <@ehsan> espindola: oh no, we're trying to get a non-virtual implementation of Addref and Release
# [00:03] <gregglind> mbrubeck to you remmber the command for making the paths line up?
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# [00:03] <gregglind> (for remapping them, I think it's a stock hg option)
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# [00:04] <@ehsan> espindola: and the problem is that if a class inherits from nsIDOMeventTarget *and* another interface inheriting from nsISupports, then there's no way to get that class to compile!
# [00:04] <espindola> ehsan, but your reduced testcase needs them to be virtual...
# [00:04] <mbrubeck> No, I've never done any sort of path remapping in hg
# [00:04] <gregglind> thanks!
# [00:04] <@ehsan> espindola: well, yes, but the compiler can be smart enough to convert virtual final to static calls :)
# [00:04] <mbrubeck> gregglind: I remember the services team did some fancy stuff with "hg transplant"...
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# [00:06] <anant> mounir: ping
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# [00:08] <espindola> ehsan, actually, you can use virtual inheritance to make Class have only one IBase...
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# [00:09] <espindola> and delete the method in Class, but not sure if that is what you want
# [00:09] <mounir> anant: fast pong
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# [00:09] <anant> mounir: :) just wondering about the pref thing. It seems to be not working as expected anymore since the nightly couple days ago. trying to understand why...
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# [00:09] <anant> mounir: the jsm is lazily loaded right? so init() should not be called unless something calls navigator.mozApps.*?
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# [00:10] <mounir> anant: that's a question for fabrice
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# [00:10] <@ehsan> espindola: hmm, yeah just tried it, if I use virtual inheritance on all of the inheritance chains, this compiles
# [00:10] <espindola> ehsan, or define the method in IFoo too, so that both paths define it
# [00:10] <anant> mounir: the pref is being set to true every-time I start nightly, even in a fresh profile. so either I misunderstand lazy loads, or something is indeed calling mozApps that's within firefox
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# [00:10] <anant> ah, ok thanks
# [00:10] <anant> fabrice: ^
# [00:11] <fabrice> which pref are you talking about?
# [00:11] <anant> fabrice: I made a new patch, let me grab a link
# [00:11] <@ehsan> espindola: well in xpcom we do have this limitation that we need a single definition of these methods for any concrete object
# [00:11] <anant> fabrice: bug 760898
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# [00:13] <fabrice> anant: and what's the issue?
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# [00:14] <anant> fabrice: the pref is being set to true on startup in a fresh profile, I don't understand why
# [00:14] <anant> is there any code in the latest nightly that's calling mozApps?
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# [00:15] <fabrice> the .jsm is loaded by nsBrowserGlue
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# [00:17] <glandium> tbsaunde: fyi, i got a green on try with 616262 and the a11y fix
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# [00:21] <philor> mayhemer: using it directly would be a pain, I meant it just to show you what commands are being run
# [00:21] <anant> fabrice: but it's lazily loaded? or init is called anytime
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# [00:22] <mayhemer> philor: aha! thanks
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# [00:23] <fabrice> anant: nsBrowserGlue class webAppsUI.init() that imports Webapps.jsm
# [00:24] <espindola> ehsan, I tried " using IEventTarget::AddRef;", but that also doesn't work...
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# [00:24] <@ehsan> espindola: yeah, using just makes the function visible in the scope
# [00:24] <anant> fabrice: ok, and importing it is enough to set the pref? then the pref is in the wrong place. I basically need the pref to only be set when a mozApps API call is made. how to do that?
# [00:24] <tbsaunde> glandium: :)
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# [00:25] <espindola> ehsan, looks like it has special meaning in c++11, but only for constructors.
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# [00:25] <glandium> tbsaunde: does marco irc?
# [00:25] <fabrice> anant: importing calls DOMRegistry.init(), yes
# [00:25] <espindola> you might want to ask in #llvm, but I don't think there is a way to say "just put this pointer in both vtable entries"
# [00:25] <tbsaunde> glandium: MarcoZ,\
# [00:26] <tbsaunde> s/,\\//
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# [00:26] <fabrice> anant: you probably want your pref to be set in receiveMessage()
# [00:26] <glandium> tbsaunde: i'll coordinate with him tomorrow, then
# [00:26] <tbsaunde> glandium: ok, thx
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# [00:27] <philor> mayhemer: one possibly significant part being where we only pass --enable-64bit for Mac, because we used to not need it at all, then something last summer caused us to build 32-bit on 64-bit Mac
# [00:27] <@ehsan> espindola: yeah
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# [00:28] <nemo> huh. according to statcounter, 3/4s of the pages they ID as chrome prefetches are unused.
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# [00:28] <nemo> I'm surprised that makes it worthshile to do, w/ a 0.250 batting average
# [00:28] <nemo> worthwhile
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# [00:31] <mayhemer> philor: so, in other words, I should try to build 32-bit spidermonkey on a 64bit OSX ?
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# [00:34] <philor> mayhemer: no, that was a very bad thing to do, didn't work out well for us at all ;)
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# [00:35] <philor> mayhemer: bug 679825 - suddenly, on 64-bit OS X, we were building 32-bit NSPR, using the exact same commands on the exact same slaves where before we got a 64-bit NSPR; this bug looks to me like the same thing, only with 64-bit Linux
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# [00:37] <mayhemer> philor: thanks, I'll take a look
# [00:38] <philor> nobody could or would explain why we suddenly, disconnected from any particular patch landing, had to pass --enable-64bit, or why we didn't before, or why I didn't have to, and probably there's nothing to explain why it would happen to Linux 10 months later
# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1f7af949b280 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 766206 - Add missing parameter to catch clause, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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# [00:48] <anant> fabrice: cool, ty going to try that, will ask for review once done
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# [00:48] <daleharvey> Ive asked about this before but keep forgetting, what is the native web app type functionality coming to firefox, so people can install web apps, have chromeless UI's etc
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# [00:50] <daleharvey> basically prism / fluid
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# [00:59] <Callek> daleharvey: iirc its WebRT, but I haven't been following closely
# [01:00] <jgilbert> daleharvey: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/WebRT
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# [01:01] <daleharvey> cheers Callek / jgilbert
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# [01:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f212d8c913f5 - Malini Das - Bug 766319 - Minor perfdata refactor, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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# [02:06] <njn> blassey: you're burning Window opt builds on inbound
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# [02:07] <taras> can someone explain to me why mozIndexedDB is treated as null?
# [02:07] <taras> --
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# [02:07] <taras> typeof ( window.indexedDB || window.mozIndexedDB || "should not get here")
# [02:07] <taras> gets me what i do not expect
# [02:08] <bent> taras, we do that when you're inside an iframe chain that crosses origins
# [02:08] <bent> or if you have the pref disabled i think
# [02:10] <taras> bent: i'm testing some html locally
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# [02:10] <taras> trying to use the exampel on mdn
# [02:10] <taras> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/IndexedDB/IndexedDB_primer
# [02:10] <bent> taras, oh, it is disabled from file:// too
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# [02:11] <bent> can't be run locally
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# [02:12] <taras> bent: that's a bit of a bummer
# [02:12] <taras> i'm trying to make a presentation on how people are supposed to use indexeddb + filehandle stuff for high perf io
# [02:13] <bent> taras, yeah, we have plans to relax this, but basically there are security problems with file urls
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# [02:14] <taras> bent: so solution here is to run a webserver?
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# [02:15] <bent> taras, for now, yes. or you can hack the code a little.
# [02:15] <bent> taras, or wait for khuey to fix this
# [02:15] <bent> (which he swears he doesn't want to do)
# [02:15] <taras> he says that about everything
# [02:15] <bent> yes, yes he does
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# [02:18] <bent> taras, btw, don't push filehandle in front of b2g/gaia folks yet because it doesn't yet work across processes ;)
# [02:19] <taras> oh i just wanna talk about dom storage sucking
# [02:19] <taras> at velocity
# [02:19] <taras> and for that I need a viable replacement to talk about
# [02:19] <bent> k
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# [02:19] <bent> taras, and if you get stuck please ping/email me
# [02:19] <taras> thanks
# [02:19] <bent> you bet
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# [02:25] <RyanVM> njn: I think we've given blassey enough time to back out
# [02:25] <RyanVM> ...and then tbpl refreshes
# [02:25] <RyanVM> *sigh*
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# [02:25] <dholbert> RyanVM, blassey says he pushed a fix
# [02:25] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: sorry
# [02:25] <dholbert> RyanVM, (he's standing near me -- let me know if his fix is busted or something)
# [02:26] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: ?
# [02:26] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: i pushed there
# [02:26] <dholbert> RyanVM, actually n/m, gtg
# [02:26] <RyanVM> dholbert: OK - I'm sure it's fine. tbpl hadn't refreshed with his push yet
# [02:26] <njn> RyanVM: when I burn the tree and notice and fix it I usually say something like "oh, give me a minute to fix that"
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# [02:29] <blassey> joduinn: you in mv?
# [02:29] <blassey> still
# [02:29] <joduinn> blassey: yep
# [02:29] <blassey> where?
# [02:29] <joduinn> in a b2g mtg, but it might be over soon.
# [02:30] <joduinn> 3rd floor pb&j. but i can ping when getting out of this.
# [02:30] <blassey> ok
# [02:30] <joduinn> can i buy you a latte ? :-)
# [02:30] <blassey> I'll take that
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# [02:32] <joduinn> red rocks. the way to go!
# [02:32] <joduinn> thx blassey
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# [04:06] <@bz_dinner> heycam: ping
# [04:06] <heycam> bz_dinner, hi
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# [04:06] <@bz> heycam: got a few minutes to talk about implements?
# [04:06] <heycam> yep sure
# [04:06] <@bz> heycam: so I'm trying to understand the basic goal of the design
# [04:07] <@bz> heycam: As I see it, there are a few possible reasons one might prefer to use implements instead of partial interfaces
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# [04:08] <@bz> 1) Ability to easily define arguments that take all objects that implement a given set of functionality without having to update the IDL every time a new object like that is added
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# [04:08] <@bz> 2) Ability to easily define functionality that's mixed in to lots of different objects without having to maintain multiple identical lists
# [04:08] <@bz> Those are pretty obvious
# [04:08] <heycam> yeah
# [04:08] <@bz> Are there other design goals for implements?
# [04:09] <@bz> This is in the context of my questions about this-validation behavior
# [04:09] <heycam> that's it, I think
# [04:09] <heycam> so you've definitely found something I wasn't thinking about -- what it means for these properties to be copied to different prototypes
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# [04:10] <heycam> whether they have the same Function object or not
# [04:10] <heycam> and I think we could define that either way, doesn't matter
# [04:10] <@bz> so from my perspective as an implementor
# [04:10] <@bz> 1) Having to have the same Function object on different prototypes would be a huge PITA
# [04:11] <@bz> It sounds like IE doesn't do that either. I have no idea what others do, or whether they even have anything like implements
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# [04:11] <heycam> ok
# [04:11] <@bz> 2) If we posit that the function objects on different prototypes are different, having any of them accept any of the object instances is somewhat of a PITA
# [04:12] <@bz> accept as this, that is
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# [04:12] <@bz> and in particular, it would make those functions slower to call than normal functions.
# [04:12] <heycam> hmm
# [04:12] <heycam> I see
# [04:12] <heycam> my feeling was that they would be checking the this object for whether it implements the rhs-interface
# [04:12] <@bz> And probably make any object that implements an interface that uses mixins somewhat larger
# [04:13] <heycam> but I can see how that would be slower
# [04:13] <heycam> and given that 99% of the time you would be calling that function on the one type of object
# [04:13] <@bz> it's not just the checking that's slower
# [04:13] <heycam> ...
# [04:13] <@bz> it's also the call that's slower
# [04:13] <@bz> because you have to do some sort of polymorphism
# [04:13] <@bz> however you do it (vtables, if cascades, whatever)
# [04:13] <heycam> right ok
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# [04:14] <@bz> Now I can probably still make common cases fast
# [04:14] <@bz> by adding more code
# [04:14] <@bz> but anyway
# [04:14] <@bz> it sounds like IE might be doing the "check for RHS" thing
# [04:14] <@bz> maybe
# [04:14] <@bz> if I understood whatshisname correctly
# [04:15] <@bz> I guess the big question is whether there are use cases for this sort of thing
# [04:15] <heycam> no explicit use cases no; if you were able to modify say MyMixedInInterface.prototype.f and have that affect all interfaces that implement MyMixedInInterface, then it might be worth keeping
# [04:16] <heycam> but as it is, you'll need to modify each prototype separately anyway
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# [04:16] <@bz> well, I meant use cases for grabbing a function off one object and applying it to others
# [04:16] <@bz> some people do in fact do this, apparently
# [04:16] <@bz> just not with mixin functions. ;)
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# [04:17] <@bz> e.g. apparently some libraries grab querySelectorAll off the documentElement and then .call() it on all other elements
# [04:17] * @bz has no idea WHY they do such a daft thing
# [04:17] <heycam> that's fine I suppose, since it'll be the same Function object right
# [04:17] <@bz> well
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# [04:17] <@bz> it's the same Function object because it's on Element or whatnot
# [04:17] <heycam> but grabbing mixin functions from one proto and applying it to other objects, can't think of a good reasons to do that
# [04:17] <@bz> if it were mixed in lower down....
# [04:17] <@bz> ok
# [04:18] <@bz> So the one other case to consider
# [04:18] <@bz> EventTarget
# [04:18] <@bz> which has things inheriting from it
# [04:18] <@bz> but also gets mixed in places, I bet
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# [04:18] <@bz> and the question is whether the EventTarget.foo versions should work on the objects it's mixed into
# [04:18] <heycam> mm
# [04:18] <@bz> In my current impl in Gecko they do not
# [04:18] <@bz> fwiw
# [04:19] <heycam> if we are generally going to make mixin functions not applicable to instances of other interfaces, then I think the EventTarget.prototype ones also shouldn't work
# [04:19] <@bz> ok
# [04:19] <@bz> worksforme!
# [04:19] <@bz> thanks!
# [04:19] <heycam> notice the "if" at the start ;)
# [04:19] <@bz> yes
# [04:19] <heycam> I'm happy with that if being true
# [04:20] <heycam> I'll chime in on the thread to say so
# [04:20] <@bz> if I have to make the former work, I get the latter for free
# [04:20] <@bz> sounds good.
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# [04:21] <@bz> I think that's all I have
# [04:21] <heycam> cool
# [04:21] <@bz> my other stuff is much less controversial and generally less important
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# [04:22] <heycam> ok
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# [04:22] <@bz> oh
# [04:22] <@bz> the named + indexed thing
# [04:22] <heycam> ah right
# [04:23] <heycam> I didn't read the mail properly yet
# [04:23] <@bz> ok
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# [04:23] <@bz> were you on vacation? ;)
# [04:23] <heycam> no, just concentrating on coding for the last little while :)
# [04:23] <@bz> and actually, one more thing
# [04:23] <@bz> ah
# [04:23] <@bz> good deal
# [04:24] <@bz> now that we've tried using webidl dictionaries, I think Jonas' proposal is spot-on
# [04:24] <@bz> which is that dictionaries should always be optional, and that not passing them or passing null or undefined should be equivalent to passing an empty dictionary
# [04:25] <heycam> ok, I can certainly understand that from the perspective of an author using it
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# [04:25] <@bz> Because it means you can write your IDL like so:
# [04:25] <heycam> it just grates *a little* to special case dictionary types to always make the argument optional
# [04:25] <@bz> void foo(MyDict arg);
# [04:25] <@bz> instead of always having to make sure to do:
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# [04:25] <@bz> and then having to write prose for what happens when the value is null.
# [04:26] <@bz> hmm
# [04:26] <heycam> ok, I can see that
# [04:26] <jwir3|away> when I build in 32 bit mode as opposed to 64 bit mode, is there a switch in the mozconfig that controls that, or is it controlled somewhere else?
# [04:26] * @bz thinks
# [04:26] <@bz> we could allow non-optional ones, I guess
# [04:27] <@bz> if we can just declare the void foo(optional MyDict arg) acts like empty dictionary if not passed
# [04:27] <@bz> er, s/the/that/
# [04:27] <@bz> or if null/undefined are passed.....
# [04:27] <@bz> anyway, that's my 2 cents
# [04:28] <heycam> ok, I'll think about it. it's probably the way to go -- might make it harder for readers of IDL to work out what valid overloads there are with this kind of special case though
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# [04:31] <@bz> hmm
# [04:31] <@bz> That's a good point
# [04:31] <@bz> on the other hand, the use cases are pretty slim
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# [04:32] <@bz> for overloading against a dictionary type
# [04:32] <@bz> imo
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# [04:32] <@bz> (just like I expect there to be 0 overloads of union types, because why the hell would one do that?)
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# [05:06] <philor> Callek: RyanVM is still awake, I don't have anything but saplings around the edge to watch :)
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# [05:29] <philor> "leaked 18446744073709551612 instances of nsEvent with size 56 bytes each (9223372036854775808 bytes total) "
# [05:29] <philor> hello, bent
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# [05:33] <@dolske> that can't be right
# [05:33] <@dolske> should be 110680464442257309672 bytes total
# [05:33] <bent> ha
# [05:33] <bent> no, that cannot be right
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# [05:37] <philor> wow, that's one angry log
# [05:38] <Callek> forget leaking, thats like a freaking bomb hit the hoover dam
# [05:38] <Callek> :-)
# [05:40] <jwir3|away> philor: you have 8 exabytes of memory?
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# [05:40] <bent> i must have forgotten that loop of 18446744073709551612 where I never delete anything
# [05:40] * jwir3|away is jealous
# [05:40] <jwir3|away> haha
# [05:41] <@khuey> if bent gets backed out he can actually address my review comments
# [05:41] <@dolske> snark!
# [05:41] <Callek> khuey++
# [05:43] <bent> pshaw
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# [05:50] <bent> omg
# [05:51] * @bz is _so_ tempted to reply with "you rang?"
# [05:51] <bent> khuey, bz, for 50 points, spot the 18446744073709551612 instance leak: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/nsGUIEvent.h#564
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# [05:52] <@bz> bent: no MOZ_COUNT_CTOR in the other ctor?
# [05:52] <@dolske> bent: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080805200603AA4mCCA
# [05:52] <bent> or in the (generated) copy constructor that IPDL almost certainly tickles
# [05:53] <@bz> bent: mmmmhm
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# [05:53] <@bz> bent: copy ctor, indeed
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# [05:53] <bent> sigh
# [05:53] <JonathanS> in http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/first-look-at-the-curved-tabs-in-firefoxs-new-australis-design, How does he know about Aero Glass is not in Windows 8?
# [05:53] <bent> bz, r=you for that?
# [05:53] <bent> otherwise i might get backed out for a 18446744073709551612 instance leak
# [05:53] <@khuey> bent: fun
# [05:53] <@khuey> bz: don't r+ it!
# [05:53] <@khuey> he deserves to get backed out
# [05:53] <bent> khuey, shush
# [05:54] <@bz> bent: can I see the diff, please?
# [05:54] <@dolske> JonathanS: it's been widely reported in blogs that the final Win8 build will remove glass entirely.
# [05:54] <@khuey> hey if you would address review comments properly ...
# [05:54] <bent> one sec, need to do it
# [05:54] <bent> khuey, all but the one that is crazy?
# [05:54] <JonathanS> dolske, I know I seen a few screen shot, no glass.
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# [05:55] <bent> dolske, what are the chances
# [05:55] <@dolske> oh oh oh
# [05:55] * @khuey mumbles
# [05:55] <@dolske> now here is a fun question....
# [05:55] <@khuey> writing tests is hard
# [05:56] <@dolske> assuming that the leak numbers are real, whose fix will have fixed the bigger leak...
# [05:56] <bent> ooh me! ooh me!
# [05:56] <@dolske> khuey's khueyfix, or bent's fix for this?
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# [05:56] <bent> leak hunter extraordinaire: bent
# [05:56] <bent> gold star
# [05:56] <JonathanS> khuey http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/25246108208/khuey-wonders-why-his-patch-fails-tests xD
# [05:56] <qDot> Worst reality show ever.
# [05:57] <@khuey> JonathanS: I submitted that ;-)
# [05:57] <bent> qDot, i'd find some way to class it up, surely
# [05:57] <JonathanS> khuey. oh yeah, I love how that boat contain Florida ;)
# [05:58] <@khuey> hehe
# [05:58] <@dolske> "itl florida" nice.
# [05:58] <JonathanS> you accidentally a word.
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# [05:59] <@dolske> what? I never a word!
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# [05:59] <JonathanS> dolske, it is "ital" but you wrote "itl"
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# [06:00] <@dolske> yes, I knw. :/
# [06:01] <JonathanS> So no H.264 supports in Mac OS X?
# [06:01] <dholbert> bz, inside nsRuleNode::ComputePositionData(), is it bad to call GetParentContext()->GetStyleDisplay() (and rely on that actually returning the correct nsStyleDisplay computed-style for our parent)?
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# [06:04] <bent> bz, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668377
# [06:04] <bent> bz, whatcha think?
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# [06:05] <bent> actually, can i cheat and use the op= trick?
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# [06:06] <bent> msvc says yes
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# [06:06] <bent> bz, or http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668382
# [06:09] <@bz> bent: reading
# [06:09] <bent> i see no reason why gcc wouldn't like the second
# [06:09] <@bz> r=me on the second
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# [06:09] <bent> k, thanks
# [06:10] <@bz> shuld work, imo
# [06:10] <@bz> er, should
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# [06:10] <bent> i'll file a bug in any case
# [06:10] <bent> so we can back out if need be
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# [06:11] <@bz> mmm
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# [06:11] <@bz> ah, well
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# [06:12] <bent> hm?
# [06:12] <@bz> binding stuff
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# [06:14] <bent> bz, bug 766446 fwiw. thanks
# [06:14] <@bz> no problem
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# [06:18] <bent> are tbpl comments recorded somewhere?
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# [06:20] <Oob> where in the code would I go to work on fixing a bug involving the way buttons are rendered?
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# [06:20] <jwir3|away> Oob: Probably nsGfxButtonControlFra,e
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# [06:20] <jwir3|away> Oob: Probably nsGfxButtonControlFrame, rather
# [06:21] <jwir3|away> Oob: Or maybe nsHTMLButtonControlFrame
# [06:21] <jwir3|away> nsGfxButtonControlFrame inherits from nsHTMLButtonControlFrame
# [06:21] <Oob> Thanks
# [06:21] <Oob> is that in the /browser/ part
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# [06:22] <jwir3|away> Oob: No, it's in layout. One second
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# [06:23] <jwir3|away> Oob: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/forms/nsGfxButtonControlFrame.cpp
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# [06:23] <Oob> Cool, thanks!
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# [06:23] <jwir3|away> Oob: Well, actually that might only be the layout of buttons. There is probably an accompanying class in gfx that actually handles the rendering...
# [06:23] <jwir3|away> Oob: I may have misled you...
# [06:24] <jwir3|away> Oob: Or, at least it might give you a place to start. That's the representation of the buttons in the frame tree, at least.
# [06:25] <jwir3|away> Oob: Ah, it looks like the display list for the buttons are handled here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/forms/nsHTMLButtonControlFrame.cpp#122
# [06:25] <jwir3|away> Oob: I hope that's what you're looking for. :)
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# [06:36] <Oob> jwir3|away: thanks for the update
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# [06:36] <Oob> are the XUL buttons handled differently from the HTML form buttons?
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# [06:39] <jwir3|away> Oob: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/xul/base/src/nsButtonBoxFrame.cpp
# [06:39] <jwir3|away> (I think)
# [06:39] <Mook> you may also need to look at the LookAndFeel stuff for -moz-appearance fun
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# [06:43] <Callek> philor: what am I missing, I see (with a newly updated buildbot) |RETRY| getting triggered from the reboot step failing to reconnect to the tegra
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# [06:44] <philor> failing and logging what unfortunate message?
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# [06:45] <Callek> philor: one example: http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/1668401
# [06:46] <philor> devicemanager.DMError
# [06:46] <Callek> philor: this is in the reboot step, (last step of the job) and is causing buildbot to RETRY instead of fail/be green
# [06:46] <philor> yeah, sucks. used to suck a lot to have to retrigger all the other places with devicemanager.DMError.
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# [06:47] <philor> fortunately, hardly anybody looks at retries, so they don't try to take my pony away
# [06:47] <Callek> philor: ahh ok, I might try and take this pony away though relatively soon, but we shall see
# [06:48] <Callek> philor: on the bright side, I'm staging the "don't do updateSUT directly in buildbot (as in, no need for a reconfig to update SUTagent) ++ never cleanup/updateSUT without having something ping the tegra first"
# [06:49] <Callek> philor: so we should have a relatively good improvement :-)
# [06:50] <jwir3|away> grrr... this try job just won't finish. I suppose i'll have to push it tomorrow morning. *sigh*
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# [07:00] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681948#c97 - c97!
# [07:01] <philor> such a tiny number
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# [07:46] <hub> karl: ah
# [07:47] <hub> my bad
# [07:50] <karl> np
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# [08:20] <glazou> bonjour
# [08:20] <glazou> hsivonen: ping
# [08:21] <devd> if an IDL file has out AString, how do I implement it in Javascript?
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# [08:28] <glandium> devd: return a string
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# [08:30] <glazou> unless the IDL has a non-void value...
# [08:30] <glazou> right?
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# [08:31] <devd> yeah, I need to return a boolean
# [08:32] <devd> I can break it up into 2 functions, but it is cleaner to use 1 function with an out AString parameter
# [08:32] <glazou> and the IDL is yours ?
# [08:32] <devd> yeah
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# [08:32] <glazou> why don't you return an object containing both the boolean and the string ?
# [08:33] <devd> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/contentAreaDropListener.js#131 seems to indicate that just setting .value works
# [08:33] <devd> glandium: yeah.. but that would involve creating a new type in c++ that has a boolean and a string
# [08:33] <devd> the implementation is in JS, it is being used from C++
# [08:33] <glazou> yeah
# [08:34] <devd> glazou: ^^
# [08:34] <glazou> I admit I never tried the {}.value approach
# [08:34] <glazou> never had a use case for it
# [08:34] <devd> glazou: I guess I will go and test the .value approach
# [08:34] <glazou> should work
# [08:36] <devd> glazou: yup .. although I can't find an example that uses the IDL from C++
# [08:36] <@bz_sleep> The right way to do this is to define an interface type for the "boolean and string" thing
# [08:36] <@bz_sleep> imho
# [08:37] <@bz_sleep> and then you just return an object with the relevant properties
# [08:37] <@bz_sleep> and rely on XPConnect to synthesize the nsIWhatever for you
# [08:37] <devd> interface type?
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# [08:37] <glazou> make your own devdIFoo
# [08:37] <@bz_sleep> interface nsISomething {
# [08:38] <@bz_sleep> readonly attribute AString str;
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# [08:38] <@bz_sleep> readonly attribute boolean myBool;
# [08:38] <@bz_sleep> };
# [08:38] <@bz_sleep> and then your code returns { str: whatever, myBool: something }
# [08:38] <@bz_sleep> (need to make that a scriptable interface, of course)
# [08:38] <glazou> he want to create it from c++
# [08:39] <devd> bz_sleep: in C++ it would be a struct ?
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# [08:39] <jesup> philor: thanks! Didn't know you trolled try builds (I guess is you looked after I posted to .planning)
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# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> I thought you were returning the thing from JS to C++
# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> no?
# [08:40] <devd> yup from JS to C++
# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> ok
# [08:40] <devd> what would it look like in C++ ?
# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> so in C++ you get an nsISomething*
# [08:40] <devd> aah ok
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# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> which has a GetStr(nsAString&) and a GetMyBool(bool*)
# [08:40] <@bz_sleep> from the point of view of the C++ code
# [08:40] <glandium> jesup: hey, did you run the gkmedia test through try already?
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# [08:41] <glazou> probably not readonly attributes
# [08:42] <devd> thanks .. I will try one of the suggestions tomorrow; not sure what :)
# [08:42] <glazou> or the setters declarations won't be created by the IDL's compilation
# [08:42] <jesup> No; was on some calls and nailing down details/final minor reviews for the landing. I may push a try before I go (back) to sleep; I'm up early to start the landing.
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# [08:54] <jesup> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b5d3778c23c0
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# [08:55] <hsivonen> oops
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# [09:21] <glandium> MarcoZ: hi. could you check out bug 765172 and the try build I did with the fix on https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/mh@glandium.org-a8d3f0b1dfb8/ ?
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# [09:28] <hsivonen> glazou: pong
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# [09:29] <glazou> hsivonen: hi henri, nevermind ; I get a lot of feedback about namespaces in html5 (html serialization) in bluegriffon and sigh
# [09:30] <AryehGregor> Jesse, the way to tell where the selection is is to stick in something like this at the appropriate point: alert(getSelection().anchorNode + " " + getSelection().anchorOffset + " " + getSelection().focusNode + " " + getSelection().focusOffset);. That should give you a general idea (although of course, it needs to be tweaked if the stringification of anchorNode/focusNode is ambiguous).
# [09:30] <AryehGregor> Jesse, also, thanks!
# [09:33] <hsivonen> glazou: fwiw, I wasn't trying to provoke the screenshot I tweeted. I just started using BlueGriffon and BOOM, XML parse error.
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# [09:34] <glazou> you could file a bug but I need more steps to reproduce
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# [09:34] <hsivonen> glazou: ok. I'll file a bug
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# [09:35] <hsivonen> glazou: STR basically: create a new document, go to source view, type <hr>, switch back to WYSIWYG view
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# [09:35] <glazou> clarify "new document" please : dialect?
# [09:36] <glandium> MarcoZ: out of curiosity, what ux difference does correctness of that array does, with a11y on?
# [09:36] <hsivonen> glazou: the dialect that File: New gives me
# [09:36] <hsivonen> glazou: which is XHTML, which is the bug
# [09:37] <glazou> if you already used the cmd-shift-n dialog in the past, your last choice is remembered
# [09:37] <glazou> by default, for a new profile, the choice is html5 html serialization
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# [09:37] <glazou> sorry xml serialization
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# [09:38] <hsivonen> glazou: ctrl-shift-n default to HTML5
# [09:38] <hsivonen> glazou: ctrl-t defaults to XHTML
# [09:38] * glazou tests
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# [09:39] <glazou> ah there is a bug here
# [09:39] <glazou> default for "New" is xhtml5, default for the dialog is html5
# [09:39] * glazou will fix it right now, thanks hsivonen
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# [09:40] <glazou> I'll make xhtml5 the default everywhere
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# [09:43] <hsivonen> glazou: that won't solve my problem
# [09:43] <glazou> you want to be able to insert <hr> in xhtml5 ?
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# [09:43] <hsivonen> glazou: no, I want the default to be HTML5 and then writing <hr> will just work
# [09:44] <glazou> I don't remember why I made the default xhtml5
# [09:44] <glazou> I can change that
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# [09:52] <hsivonen> glazou: filed as http://bugzilla.bluegriffon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433
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# [09:54] <glazou> thanks
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# [09:58] <MarcoZ> glandium: The difference is subtle: It just gives the correct name for some of the accessibles, the definition term and definition item, for example. Most screen readers look in the sub tree themselves, too, so that's why we didn't actually notice it working right.
# [09:59] <AryehGregor> Jesse, also, FWIW, it's simpler to use getSelection().collapse()/.extend() to set the selection's position rather than addRange(). Also, this allows you to create backward selections, which you can't with addRange().
# [09:59] <MarcoZ> glandium: But with your patch, it behaves correctly in all cases now.
# [09:59] <edmorley> glandium++
# [09:59] <MarcoZ> glandium++
# [10:00] <edmorley> mine was for bug 734125, but that crazy crash bug was pretty cool too
# [10:01] <glandium> edmorley: i wouldn't say cool
# [10:01] <edmorley> s/cool/must have been 'interesting' tracking done/
# [10:01] <edmorley> down
# [10:02] <glandium> FSVO interesting, yeah
# [10:02] <glandium> I've had a lots of wtff moments
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# [10:08] <glazou> AryehGregor: why can't you with a range ? you can tweak the start/end container/offset as you wish
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# [10:08] <AryehGregor> glazou, you can't make the selection backwards. Meaning, have the cursor be at the start of the range. The cursor will always be at the end.
# [10:09] <AryehGregor> getSelection().collapse(document.body, 0); getSelection().extend(document.body, 1); is not the same as getSelection().collapse(document.body, 1); getSelection().extend(document.body, 0);
# [10:09] <AryehGregor> The first is like clicking at (document.body, 0) and dragging to (document.body, 1). The second is like the reverse.
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# [10:12] <AryehGregor> Jesse, BTW, have you considered generating a whole bunch of fuzz tests and just committing them all as crashtests to catch regressions, even if they find nothing now? Or do you get too few positives for that to make sense? (Maybe as a separate test suite that only gets run occasionally . . .)
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# [10:15] <AryehGregor> glandium, Ms2ger said at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764400#c3 that "inline" is implicit there. Is it actually not?
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# [10:17] <glandium> AryehGregor: it's supposed to. but maybe gcc makes some stupid decisions. it could very well be just moving these that made the difference
# [10:17] <AryehGregor> Well, it's not clear we wanted to move most of them anyway.
# [10:18] <AryehGregor> I only really want Tag().
# [10:18] <glandium> AryehGregor: anyways, i'd suggest backing out, and see what happens with the regression. the regression range also includes changesets from me, but none change anything to linux builds
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# [10:19] <AryehGregor> glandium, is there a way to run the backed-out revision on try or something to see if the regression goes away?
# [10:19] <glandium> AryehGregor: push it to try
# [10:19] <AryehGregor> Hmm, okay.
# [10:19] * AryehGregor has never dealt with talos before
# [10:19] <AryehGregor> First time for everything!
# [10:21] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/04c7d09b664f - Mike Hommey - Bug 765172 - Add missing entries in nsTextEquivUtils::gRoleToNameRulesMap. r=tbsaunde
# [10:21] <firewolfbot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/83369c1bb9af - Mike Hommey - Bug 616262 - Avoid cycle collection participant global variables adding static initializers. r=smaug,r=mccr8,r=Waldo
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# [10:23] <edmorley> glandium: have you clobbered osx on inbound too?
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# [10:24] <glandium> edmorley: only b2g needs a clobber, the osx and qt ones are a race condition in bug 763893. i'm backing out.
# [10:25] <edmorley> ok, thank you
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# [10:25] <glandium> edmorley: note that b2g needed a clobber for 763893, so if you merge after the backout, there's no clobber required
# [10:25] <edmorley> :-)
# [10:25] <glazou> hsivonen: fixed
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# [10:26] <glandium> gah, and the clobbered b2g hit the race condition
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# [10:27] <hsivonen> glazou: thanks
# [10:27] <hsivonen> glazou: with this sort of fixing speed, I should probably file more bugs :-)
# [10:27] <glazou> that one was really a trivial fix
# [10:28] <glazou> I got a really more complex one yesterday
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# [10:28] <glazou> related to <style></style> but in XHTML
# [10:28] <glazou> with a *.html file extension
# [10:28] <hsivonen> glazou: any plans for Ubuntu Software Center availability or otherwise having a Ubuntu-compatible .deb repository with updates?
# [10:29] <glazou> I unfortunately don't have time for that
# [10:29] <glazou> if anyone wants to contribute it, fine
# [10:29] <hsivonen> glazou: I see
# [10:29] <glazou> hold on
# [10:29] <glazou> see http://www.sourceslist.eu/software-tramite-repository/how-to-install-bluegriffon-editor-wysiwyg-on-ubuntu-12-04-from-ppa/
# [10:30] <hsivonen> glazou: thanks
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# [10:31] <hsivonen> glazou: I'm always slightly scared about installing software from random repos (i.e. neither owned by Canonical nor the app creator)
# [10:32] <edmorley> glandium: bug 616262 conflicts with inbound, can I leave you to merge across and resolve please
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# [10:33] <glandium> edmorley: what does the conflict look like?
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# [10:34] <glazou> hsivonen: I can understand that
# [10:34] <edmorley> glandium: no idea, threeway diff looked a mess but may be trivial
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# [10:34] <edmorley> it's more that you decided to use m-c, so... :-)
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# [10:35] <mounir> glazou: shouldn't inline be implicit when definining a method in the class declaration?
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# [10:35] <edmorley> glandium: I was aiming to pull inbound rev 803c17d3b0bd
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# [10:36] <glazou> mounir: hmmm?
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# [10:36] <glandium> edmorley: how do you do your merges?
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# [10:38] <edmorley> glandium: was between https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/83369c1bb9af/js/xpconnect/src/nsXPConnect.cpp and https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9118e53405c7
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# [10:39] <edmorley> glandium: hg pull inbound -r 803c17d3b0bd && hg merge && hg commit -m "Merge last PGO green changeset from mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central" && hg outgoing etc
# [10:39] <glandium> sigh. what's going on with the jsreftest red on 25b914405558
# [10:40] <edmorley> that's weird
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# [10:42] <glandium> edmorley: i'm waiting for the build log to check it
# [10:42] <glandium> man, how many things did i break today?
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# [10:50] <glandium> edmorley: afaict, the tests should be there :-/
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# [10:55] <glandium> edmorley: ah, i see what's wrong
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# [11:01] <Ms2ger> edmorley, morning
# [11:01] <edmorley> good morning :-)
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# [11:03] <glandium> edmorley: pushing the merge
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# [11:05] <NeilAway> mozilla14 is the next release, right?
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# [11:07] <NeilAway> mkaply: bug 278860 checks the wrong path
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# [11:10] <edmorley> glandium: thank you (I'll sorting the marking obviously)
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# [11:12] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: good morning
# [11:12] <Ms2ger> And a food morning to you too
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# [11:13] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: recently someone had asked about that their bugzilla.mozilla.org doesn't resolve to https://bugzilla....
# [11:13] <sawrubh> what had you proposed then ?
# [11:13] <Ms2ger> Did I propose something? :)
# [11:14] <sawrubh> this happens when I select the address from the dropdown
# [11:14] <sawrubh> :)
# [11:14] <Ms2ger> There were some DNS issues earlier, but I thought they were fixed
# [11:14] <sawrubh> I think you did ;)
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# [11:21] <darktrojan> why don't nsIFile.launch or nsIFile.reveal work on my linux build?
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# [11:24] <MarcoZ> So, is there *any* guideline to follow when to land something on central and when on inbound?
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# [11:27] <Unfocused> MarcoZ: ideally, always land on inbound
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# [11:28] <Unfocused> and land on central when you feel like playing russian roulette with everyone's tree
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# [11:33] <Ms2ger> Unfocused--
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# [11:34] <MarcoZ> ms2ger: ?
# [11:35] <edmorley> Unfocused++
# [11:35] <Unfocused> :)
# [11:35] <Unfocused> break-even!
# [11:35] <capella> unfocused++
# [11:35] <edmorley> not that firebot karma is even working, but hey :-)
# [11:35] <Unfocused> heh
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# [11:51] <sawrubh> I just cancelled a try run a few minutes back
# [11:52] <sawrubh> do I need to wait before pushing to try again again with something new
# [11:52] <Ms2ger> No
# [11:53] <sawrubh> and after I cancelled the try run, I got a few emails like this(since I had asked for all email alerts) : Your Try Server build (b25ac12acb6f) hit a buildbot exception on builder try-win32-debug.
# [11:53] <sawrubh> is that normal ?
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# [11:53] <nthomas> yep
# [11:54] * sawrubh phew! thank god
# [11:54] <Ms2ger> No, you should have got to the point where those emails are filtered to trash already :)
# [11:54] <sawrubh> Ms2ger: :)
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# [12:07] <smontagu> how do I prevent nightly builds downloading updates?
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# [12:08] <smontagu> I have all the nightlies that I downloaded for bisection, and I absolutely don't want them updating themselves
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# [12:08] <Unfocused> smontagu: using the same profile, or a new profile each time?
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# [12:09] <smontagu> Unfocused: not necessarily the same profile, but I am willing to keep a separate profile for bisection
# [12:10] <Unfocused> ah, then preferences -> advanced -> update -> never check for updates
# [12:11] <Unfocused> which maps to app.update.enabled
# [12:11] <smontagu> and can I get it to throw away the update that it already downloaded?
# [12:14] <Unfocused> er, pass. not sure if that would even matter or not
# [12:15] <edmorley> Ms2ger++
# [12:15] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
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# [12:15] <edmorley> only scrollback
# [12:15] <smontagu> well I can always re-un-tar the download
# [12:15] <smontagu> thx, Unfocused
# [12:15] <Ms2ger> Oh, for not approving of the m-c-landing-hating? :)
# [12:15] <Unfocused> :)
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# [12:16] <edmorley> Ms2ger: nah, just the tryserver filter to trash
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# [12:16] <edmorley> my treat for filing a bunch of new oranges was to read the last 30 mins of scrollback \o/
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# [12:17] <Unfocused> i hope you feel privileged
# [12:17] <Ms2ger> He's paid for it, at least
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# [12:39] <jfkthame> smontagu: ping
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# [12:39] <smontagu> jfkthame: yes?
# [12:39] <jfkthame> smontagu: think there's any chance you could look at bug 763703 fairly soonish? it seems to give a nice perf win on text-heavy pages like tbpl logs
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# [12:41] <smontagu> jfkthame: you talked me into it
# [12:41] <jfkthame> :)
# [12:41] * sawrubh likes Chatzilla for directly linking to the Bugzilla whenever a bug # is mentioned in the irc
# [12:41] <smontagu> but "fairly soonish" will be "today" rather than "this minute"
# [12:41] <jfkthame> that's fine, i wasn't meaning to imply the latter!
# [12:42] <NeilAway> darktrojan: well, last time I looked, unix version of launch/reveal was return NS_ERROR_FAILURE;
# [12:42] <Unfocused> i'm gonna start using "it makes TBPL faster" in all my review requests
# [12:42] <darktrojan> it is
# [12:43] <darktrojan> NeilAway, but it has code that should do something
# [12:43] <darktrojan> that's right Unfocused, appeal to what annoys people most
# [12:43] <jfkthame> smontagu: if you also wanted to steal the review in bug 764005 (note: makes TBPL faster) from jdaggett, as he's away, i wouldn't object
# [12:43] <NeilAway> sawrubh: yeah, well, up to 999999 anyway
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# [12:53] <darktrojan> dolske'll probably use it to say that developers should get flying cars
# [12:54] <edmorley> jfkthame: thank you for your work in bug 764005 and friends :-)
# [12:56] <Oob> is jimm mathies on
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> !seen jimm
# [12:57] <firewolfbot> jimm was last seen 10 hours, 55 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying 'timA: any luck?' in #windev.
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> Doesn't look like it
# [12:58] <Oob> thanks
# [12:58] <Oob> Im confused about something
# [12:58] <Oob> if someone posts code in a bug thread, but I don't see it in mozilla-central, does that mean I need to grab a specific branch?
# [12:59] <@smaug> which bug ?
# [13:00] <@smaug> and yes, that is possible
# [13:01] <jfkthame> edmorley: y/w, hope it'll help
# [13:03] <hsivonen> I made a debug build on Linux 64 and the stacks dumped by NS_ASSERTION don't have proper symbols
# [13:03] <hsivonen> what switches do I need to flip to get symbols again?
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# [13:09] <Oob> @smaug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373266
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# [13:09] <Oob> comment 53 for example, I don't see that code in the mozilla-central source I downloaded
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# [13:12] <jfkthame> Oob: the last comment in that bug says it got backed out, so that's hardly surprising
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# [13:29] <jesup> edmorley: ping
# [13:29] <edmorley> jesup: hi :-)
# [13:30] <Oob> jfkthame: oh ok
# [13:30] <jesup> Hi. I see inbound looks healthy
# [13:31] <edmorley> ?
# [13:31] <Ms2ger> Bah
# [13:31] <jesup> edmorley: fair warning: I'm about to land an aircraft carrier on inbound (500K loc from webrtc)
# [13:31] <edmorley> ah
# [13:31] <edmorley> jesup: looks good to me :-)
# [13:32] <jesup> edmorley: thanks. Try builds look good. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=c5b6ac34b293
# [13:32] <jesup> Just need a quick rebase-merge and I'm ready to go
# [13:33] <Ms2ger> Who touched WebIDL dictionaries?
# [13:33] <jesup> sorry: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=bd60359fa967
# [13:33] <jesup> wrong tbpl tab
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# [13:34] <edmorley> jesup: the linux m2 is possibly new
# [13:34] <edmorley> but could be new from someone else
# [13:35] <edmorley> 15 min run time, have retriggered
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# [13:37] <jesup> edmorley: yeah, I looked at that. Let me check the previous run (no change that should affect this); I don't remember seeing it there
# [13:38] <Oob> jfkthame: what does it mean he backed out? All the work is left undone and its up to someone else to do it?
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# [13:40] <@smaug> Oob: the patch needs some fixes before it can re-land to m-c
# [13:41] <jesup> edmorley: here's the previous try build (should have no changes since then that touch anything in a default build - mostly merging of patches and marking with proper summaries, etc) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a610534e5035
# [13:41] <@smaug> the bug is still assigned to jimm, so he have probably been busy with other things
# [13:41] <Oob> does that mean I shouldnt work on it
# [13:41] <@smaug> Oob: better to ask jimm
# [13:42] <Oob> jimm isn't here. deadlock achieved.
# [13:42] <jesup> edmorley: let me know if you want me to wait, or to land now
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# [13:42] <@smaug> Oob: jimm lives somewhere in US...
# [13:42] <@smaug> so a bit early for him
# [13:43] <@smaug> Oob: I think he lives somewhere in Florida
# [13:44] <@smaug> Oob: you could send him email
# [13:45] <jesup> edmorley: I don't expect problems of that sort (orange) from this landing, as the default for the pref is off, so it doesn't build by default. I also have a green (multipart) try run with it enabled, but my landing plan from dev.planning is to land disabled
# [13:45] <edmorley> jesup: the same native android rc failure was on both try runs
# [13:45] <edmorley> jesup: ok fair enough
# [13:45] <edmorley> :-)
# [13:45] <jesup> yeah, and it doesn't even do anything for android even if enabled. :-)
# [13:46] <edmorley> jesup: I say land away :-)
# [13:46] <jesup> gotcha! thanks
# [13:46] <jfkthame> i say "everyone duck" :)
# [13:46] <jesup> look for foxholes :-)
# [13:46] <jfkthame> firefoxholes?
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# [13:50] <jesup> fire in the hole... slowly. It's a kinda large patchset ;-)
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# [13:54] <glandium> jesup: your win try failed, btw
# [13:54] <jesup> Ok, autorollback. The webrtc import method stages the webrtc code in a repo I use to strip out stuff we don't want, and those commits (which got pulled into this) don't have bug #'s. Not sure the best way to go back to change that....
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# [13:54] <jesup> glandium: Yes. Haven't looked at that yet (that's the PGO stuff). I just fire-and-forgeted the try before crashing
# [13:55] <glandium> jesup: unresolved symbols
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# [13:55] <jesup> edmorley: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668660 has the errors. Suggestion as to the best way to proceed?
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# [13:56] <Ms2ger> jesup, write better commit messages
# [13:56] <tbsaunde> jesup: IGNOREBADCOMMITMESSAGES doesn't seem too unreasonable here imo
# [13:56] <jesup> edmorley: going forward I can revise how we handle the import repo to ensure commits have bug numbers
# [13:56] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, do you think we could have a constructor nsIDOMNode(nsINode*) that would work (and return null) if the input was null? ->AsDOMNode() doesn't work if the node is null, which complicates porting sometimes.
# [13:56] <Ms2ger> A constructor? No, that wouldn't work
# [13:56] <jesup> Ms2ger: :-P
# [13:57] <jesup> tbsaunde: how does that work?
# [13:57] <Ms2ger> Maybe a static function somewhere
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# [13:58] <edmorley> jesup: just looking up the hook wording
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# [13:58] <tbsaunde> jesup: add edmorley "IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES" looks like it
# [13:58] <AryehGregor> A constructor wouldn't work because nsIDOMNode is abstract, I guess?
# [13:58] <edmorley> jesup: you need "IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES" in the tip commit message
# [13:59] <edmorley> jesup: if a bug near the tip could have the bug # for this landing as well, that would be ideal
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# [13:59] <Ms2ger> No, because a constructor creates a new object
# [13:59] <edmorley> jesup: s/bug/changeset/
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# [13:59] <jesup> ok. You good with that? I think the tip changeset actually has the right bug. let me check
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# [14:00] <edmorley> jesup: yup wfm :-)
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# [14:02] <lahabana> ping roc
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# [14:04] <jesup> ok, ready to repush - tip is "Bug 749889 and Bug 688178: Make webrtc build without referencing third_party modules not in first tranche r=ted IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES" -- good by you?
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# [14:05] <jesup> If you want only one bug, I'd go back to bug 749889 (bug 688178 is the master "land it all on m-c" bug)
# [14:05] <jesup> edmorley: ^
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# [14:06] <edmorley> jesup: that's fine :-)
# [14:06] <jesup> ok, one more time with feeling
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# [14:06] <edmorley> (this is where someone pushes before you...!)
# [14:08] <jesup> Yeah, I was just waiting for that!
# [14:08] <jesup> hg incoming said clear, but you never know....
# [14:08] <jesup> That's why I'm doing this <8am EDT :-)
# [14:08] <jfkthame> obviously you didn't wait long enough!
# [14:09] <jesup> It's in. Be frightened
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# [14:10] <darktrojan> twss
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# [14:10] <jesup> Ok, time to go on vacation! :-D
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# [14:11] <Ms2ger> Is he gone?
# [14:11] * Ms2ger backs out
# [14:11] <jesup> ha!
# [14:13] <Ms2ger> Which reminds me
# [14:13] <jfkthame> i suppose it's too late to suggest it now, but i wish all those changesets with incremental webrtc import and removal of stuff could've been folded before hitting m-c
# [14:13] <Ms2ger> PSA: I will *not* be on the hook for any DOM bindings regressions in the first two weeks of July
# [14:14] <hsivonen> I removed everything in objdir built with ac_add_options --enable-debug-symbols but I still don't get symbols in stacks dumped by NS_ASSERTION with XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK=stack
# [14:14] <jesup> jfkthame: Can you fold merges? I didn't think so
# [14:14] <hsivonen> what can I do?
# [14:14] <hsivonen> this is on Linux 64
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# [14:14] <jfkthame> jesup: i don't know, maybe it wouldn't have been possible
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# [14:15] <jesup> jfkthame: I know mq won't allow you to qimport a commited changeset (or qnew an uncommitted one)
# [14:16] <jesup> if it's a merge, that is
# [14:16] <db48x> we need a dvcs that supports multiple nested views of the history
# [14:16] <Ms2ger> jesup, what's the point of a merge?
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# [14:16] <Ms2ger> You could have just taken the diff between m-c and your branch and landed that
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# [14:16] <db48x> start with a nice, linear 10,000-foot overview, then drill down through successive layers until you see the autosaves generated by people's editors
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> 500,000 foot in this case
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# [14:17] <db48x> sure
# [14:17] <db48x> and at the other end, perhaps just the ability to make a checkpoint commit when I leave for lunch
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# [14:18] <jesup> Ms2ger: Maybe; worried it might be error-prone in a 500K loc patch, plus non-code files including binary test files
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# [14:19] <jesup> I'll revise the import script to suggest commit messages with bug numbers
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# [14:21] <Ms2ger> Anyone who can pull a snippet of code from his objdir for me?
# [14:22] <NeilAway> darktrojan: bah, I can still see some nsCOMPtr<nsIFile> file = do_QueryInterface(otherFile);
# [14:22] <darktrojan> NeilAway, kill it!
# [14:22] <Ms2ger> Hmm, nvm
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# [14:24] <darktrojan> where, NeilAway?
# [14:25] <NeilAway> darktrojan: nsToolkitProfileService::CreateProfile
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# [14:26] <NeilAway> darktrojan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/toolkit/profile/nsToolkitProfileService.cpp#736
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# [14:26] <darktrojan> yeah, I got it
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# [14:27] <darktrojan> oh there's a few
# [14:27] <darktrojan> :/
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# [14:32] <ted> hsivonen: i think you need to pipe the output through fix-linux-stack
# [14:32] <hsivonen> ted: where do I find that?
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# [14:33] <ted> dist/bin/fix-linux-stack.pl
# [14:33] <hsivonen> ted: thanks
# [14:33] <ted> np
# [14:33] <hsivonen> ted: since when has this been necessary?
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# [14:34] <ted> probably years, since we switched our symbol visibility to default to hidden
# [14:34] <ted> the test harnesses do it for you
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# [14:34] <darktrojan> NeilAway, sending to you for rs
# [14:34] <hsivonen> hmm. printing stacks with NS_ASSERTION(false, "stack"); has previously worked for me
# [14:34] <ted> interesting
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# [14:36] <hsivonen> ted: do kernel interprocess restrictions have anything to do with this? NS_ASSERTION walks the stack in-process, right?
# [14:36] <hsivonen> ted: why are the symbols hidden? from whom are we hiding them in debug builds?
# [14:36] <ted> it does, yes
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# [14:37] <ted> symbols are hidden because it makes library loading faster
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# [14:37] <jesup> edmorley: Note: I typoed the bug numbers for the two just-before-landing merges from inbound. Please ignore (899 vs 889). Top changeset is correct
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# [14:37] <edmorley> jesup: ok, thank you :-)
# [14:37] <hsivonen> ted: seems like the wrong tradeoff for debug builds
# [14:38] <jesup> ted: though hiding them in debug builds may not be important
# [14:38] <ted> probably not
# [14:39] <ted> we could probably fix that
# [14:39] <ted> it's just passing compiler flags
# [14:40] <hsivonen> my current extra compiler flags are just export CFLAGS="-DI_FOOLISHLY_WANT_TO_IGNORE_THIS_LIKE_THE_OTHER_CRAP_WE_PRINTF"
# [14:40] <hsivonen> and same for CXXFLAGS
# [14:40] <ted> heh
# [14:41] <hsivonen> (yes, that's a real define in our codebase)
# [14:41] <ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/config.mk#492
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# [14:41] <ted> actually it'd be pretty trivial
# [14:41] <ted> you'd just ifdef the VISIBILITY_FLAGS bit
# [14:41] <jesup> ted: in case you didn't notice, webrtc tranche 1 is on inbound
# [14:41] <darktrojan> Unfocused, I can't decide if I like this or not :/ http://i.imgur.com/8GchD.png?3585
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# [14:41] <jfkthame> ted, wouldn't using different visibility settings on debug vs non-debug builds cause extra pain for people who normally build with debug and may not notice a latent linking problem until it hits the tree?
# [14:41] <glandium> jesup: i don't think it's really great to import stuff and remove them afterwards. because now, that stuff in the mercurial history forever
# [14:41] <ted> jfkthame: probably
# [14:42] <ted> jesup: hooray!
# [14:42] <darktrojan> Unfocused, I'm hoping it's because ugly default icon is ugly
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# [14:42] <ted> jesup: but we do have the try server etc
# [14:42] <Unfocused> darktrojan: it is
# [14:42] <Unfocused> shorlander needs to work his magic
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# [14:42] <darktrojan> chop chop shorlander
# [14:42] <darktrojan> :)
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# [14:43] <darktrojan> I still haven't convinced the AMO guys to land my patch
# [14:43] <jesup> glandium: true. Though some of those will be coming back later. I can make sure that doesn't happen in future updates
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# [14:44] <glandium> jesup: I doubt the .git directories are any useful ;)
# [14:44] <Ms2ger> teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
# [14:44] <Unfocused> slackers :)
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# [14:45] <Ms2ger> ted, can has r+ please?
# [14:46] <NeilAway> darktrojan: wow @ mListFile one
# [14:46] <jesup> glandium: if it's a serious issue, we could back out and rejigger. I won't be adding .git directories.... (and find -name ".git" didn't find anything. Looks like 3 .gitignore's got committed though; I'll get rid of them later
# [14:46] <glandium> jesup: let me see how bigger the tree got
# [14:47] <shorlander> Unfocused: what bug is that?
# [14:47] <Ms2ger> jesup, well, backing out doesn't help anything for the code in the version history
# [14:47] <Unfocused> ohai! 64px icons for the addons manager
# [14:48] <glandium> Ms2ger: yeah, we'd need to actually strip the changesets
# [14:48] <Unfocused> darktrojan probably remembers the bug #
# [14:48] <jesup> glandium: Note that webrtc itself is huge. The import script is in media/webrtc/webrtc_update.sh
# [14:48] <Ms2ger> Too late for that, I guess
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# [14:48] <NeilAway> darktrojan: heh @ OpenWith's icon
# [14:48] <darktrojan> I don't but my awesomebar does
# [14:48] <glandium> Ms2ger: it would be too late if it were m-c
# [14:48] <darktrojan> firebot, bug 633640
# [14:48] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633640 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Need 48x48 and 64x64 sized versions of the default add-on icons
# [14:48] <darktrojan> NeilAway, :D
# [14:49] <Ms2ger> Anyway, now would be the time to do that, then
# [14:49] <NeilAway> darktrojan: you obviously haven't seen my r- yet then ;-)
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# [14:49] <darktrojan> yeah D:
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# [14:50] <NeilAway> darktrojan: how hard would it be to make nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> = do_QueryInterface(nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo>) illegal?
# [14:50] <darktrojan> I have no idea
# [14:51] <darktrojan> worth a look though
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# [14:51] <darktrojan> bsmedberg, ^ ?
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# [14:52] <darktrojan> ohhh
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# [14:52] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, pretty hard, I think
# [14:52] <Ms2ger> Because nsQueryInterface is untyped
# [14:52] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: wouldn't template<t> alreadyAddRefed<t> do_QueryInterface(t* foo) = delete; work?
# [14:53] <ted> Ms2ger: get in line
# [14:53] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: only on compilers that support delete
# [14:53] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, that's not how do_QueryInterface is implemented, because you can't make the template depend on the type it's being assigned to
# [14:53] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: that's just an insufficient indirection problem ;-)
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# [14:54] <NeilAway> (for untyped nsQueryInterface)
# [14:55] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: well, I'd probably say compilers supporting delete is close enough
# [14:56] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, hmm, I guess we could have template<typename U> do_QueryInterface(U*) instead of do_QueryInterface(nsISupports*)...
# [14:56] <glandium> jesup: oh my, and you added/deleted the extra stuff several times
# [14:57] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: actually we might be able to arrange for an ambiguous overload ;-)
# [14:57] <glandium> edmorley: how much of a disturbance would it be to strip the last push from m-i ?
# [14:57] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: well, you need that to have a return type that means u is being converted to u
# [14:58] <Ms2ger> ted, :(
# [14:58] <@ehsan> glandium: it's too late, people might have pulled it :(
# [14:58] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I could see that being possible
# [14:58] <edmorley> glandium: yeah too late sadly
# [14:58] <glandium> edmorley, ehsan: \o/ we're doomed for eternity
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# [14:58] <Ms2ger> ehsan, people who pull m-i are wrong anyway :)
# [14:58] <@ehsan> glandium: indeed we are
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# [14:59] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: no, that's you :P
# [14:59] <glandium> seriously, though, i think it would totally be worth the risk of being a slight pain for people who pulled m-i
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> Someone go and look if bug 766531 is spam, please
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# [15:00] <zzzzz> yup spam
# [15:00] <@ehsan> glandium: well those people would attempt to push this stuff again
# [15:00] <tbsaunde> ehsan: so, pull -f can't pull across a break in history? I thought it does in git atleast
# [15:00] <tbsaunde> ehsan: but they'd be introducing a new head no?
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, well, they'll just have to strip the local changesets
# [15:00] <edmorley> ehsan: unless we added another changeset after the strip and the single head hook would catch it?
# [15:00] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: in hg, it's hg pull ; hg up -C
# [15:00] <atuljangra> spam
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# [15:01] <glandium> ehsan: what edmorley said
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# [15:01] <Yoric> gavin: ping me whenever you're ready to chat on that metadata async loading bug.
# [15:01] <@ehsan> edmorley: the hook will catch pushes of extra heads
# [15:01] <Ms2ger> Aight, who can do this?
# [15:01] <@ehsan> but many people would not know how to fix their clones
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# [15:02] <@ehsan> and I have no idea what would happen to the builders who have already pulled, etc
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# [15:02] <@ehsan> and to things like the pushlog db
# [15:02] <edmorley> oh yeah that too
# [15:02] <glandium> ehsan: are there so many people?
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> Clobber
# [15:02] <@ehsan> glandium: not sure
# [15:02] <glandium> ehsan: there's only one builder of each
# [15:02] <zzzzz> Ms2ger: duped the spam
# [15:02] <@ehsan> really this is the sort of thing that somebody is suppoosed to catch _before_ pushing
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [15:03] <@ehsan> glandium: true
# [15:03] * darktrojan decides now is not a good time to push to inbound
# [15:03] <@ehsan> there's also the fact that there's gonna be a lag until IT gets to this
# [15:03] <Ms2ger> Close the tree while you decide, please
# [15:03] <@ehsan> glandium: are you more worried about history or blame?
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# [15:03] <edmorley> how large is the extra history?
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# [15:04] <glandium> edmorley: that's what I'm trying to determine right now
# [15:04] <glandium> edmorley: cloning takes time
# [15:04] <edmorley> (my tree is still updating)
# [15:04] <edmorley> ok
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> "Microsoft Wins Congressional Backing For Do-Not-Track Default In IE10"
# [15:04] * @ehsan pulls as well
# [15:04] <zzzzz> \o/
# [15:05] <glandium> ehsan: both
# [15:05] <glandium> ehsan: but more repository size, actually
# [15:05] <@ehsan> glandium: repo size is a lost cause ;)
# [15:05] <glandium> which also influences how slow it is to use mercurial
# [15:06] <NeilAway> tbsaunde, darktrojan, Ms2ger: ah, it turns out that NSCAP_ASSERT_NO_QUERY_NEEDED relies on it ;-)
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# [15:06] <@ehsan> glandium: it shouldn't be too bad after the first time you pull this stuff (and push it as well)
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# [15:06] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: relies on what? have we just had asserts you shouldn't do this already, but nobody payed attention?
# [15:07] <glandium> ehsan: if you don't work on webrtc
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> Oooh, a JSReftest failure
# [15:07] <Cork> Ms2ger: doesn't that kinda makes the header pointless?
# [15:07] <@ehsan> glandium: heh, true :)
# [15:07] <Cork> if its on by default it will just mean that the server ppl will ignore it
# [15:07] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: no, we have an assert that you can safely do nsIFoo = bar; without using do_QueryInterface
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> Cork, I guess, I haven't rtfa
# [15:07] <@ehsan> glandium: ok I'm convinced, let's at least try, wanna file a blocker IT bug?
# [15:08] <@ehsan> glandium: I'll close inbound in the mean time
# [15:08] <edmorley> ehsan: already closed
# [15:08] <@ehsan> cool
# [15:09] <jesup> sorry, was afk for a couple of min. What's the decision?
# [15:09] <edmorley> glandium: please CC me if you are filing (or else I can file if you'd prefer)
# [15:09] <@ehsan> jesup: we're considering stripping inbound from your webrtc push
# [15:09] <glandium> edmorley: you can go ahead, i'm sizing
# [15:10] <jesup> ok
# [15:10] * @ehsan notes that hg is reporting 2h37ms as the time remaining for pulling inbound
# [15:10] <ted> ick
# [15:10] <@ehsan> which is a loooong time ;)
# [15:10] <ted> stripping changesets out of inbound is going to break a ton of shit
# [15:10] <ted> FYI
# [15:10] <ted> we'll probably have to blow away and re-clone the whole repo
# [15:10] <@ehsan> ted: people's clones, pushlog db, what else?
# [15:11] <ted> mostly the pushlog
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# [15:11] <@ehsan> we can just remove a single entry from pushlog, right?
# [15:11] <ted> stripping and the pushlog are completely incompatible
# [15:11] <edmorley> we've had to manually fixup the pushlog before
# [15:11] <edmorley> this isn't much different from a ctrl+c, no?
# [15:11] <jmaher|afk> bholley: ping
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# [15:12] <ted> not sure
# [15:12] <ted> you'll have to disable the pushlog hook if you strip
# [15:12] <ted> i know that breaks things
# [15:12] <ted> and yeah, if anyone has pulled m-i that's going to break things
# [15:12] <ted> will tbpl cope with some revisions suddenly not existing?
# [15:13] <@ehsan> I think it should, if we fix pushlog that is
# [15:13] <edmorley> ted: yes, eg after try reset
# [15:13] <ted> edmorley: ah, good point
# [15:13] <glandium> so, if i pull from inbound, my .hg grows by about 250MB
# [15:13] <ted> okay
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# [15:14] <glandium> if i then take the diff between c5b6ac34b293 and the tip of inbound, and then apply it on another clone, .hg grows by... 14MB
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# [15:14] <@ehsan> hmm that's a significant difference
# [15:15] <hsivonen> how do I make sure the stderr pipe gets flushed when MOZ_ASSERT kills the app?
# [15:15] <glandium> ehsan: let me check if I have everything, though. i could be missing binary files
# [15:15] <@ehsan> ok
# [15:16] <jesup> yes. I'm ok with this. It wasn't an impact I expected or wanted. I'll need to revise how I merge the imported-and-stripped-of-stuff-we-don't-want code over
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# [15:17] <jesup> glandium: there are binary files, but I'm not certain there are any in the final merge (I removed the largest ones early on, and the smaller ones were removed in the final removal of third-party stuff
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# [15:17] <ted> hsivonen: hrm, that's tricky
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# [15:18] <jesup> 40MB .yuv files for example were in the original drop
# [15:18] <mounir> who hould I ping to give editbugs right to a few volunteers?
# [15:18] <ted> mounir: i can do it
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# [15:18] <@ehsan> glandium: so that could be a reason why you're seeing this much of a size difference
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# [15:19] <mounir> ted: can you give editbugs to bellot.zoe@gmail.com, charly.molter@gmail.com, dmt.alexandre@gmail.com and raphael.catolino@gmail.com
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# [15:19] <jesup> glandium: A raw pull or webrtc.org produces a 350MB directory... so we're landing a lot less than that
# [15:19] <glandium> ehsan: it's only a partial explanation. instead of 14MB, it's 56MB
# [15:19] <glandium> still far from 256MB
# [15:19] <ted> mounir: sure
# [15:19] <tbsaunde> hsivonen: couldn't you just add fflush(STDOUT) in MOZ_ASSERT() ?
# [15:19] <espindola> rail-buildduty, where do I find the logs you mentioned?
# [15:20] <ted> mounir: done
# [15:20] <mounir> ted: thanks :)
# [15:20] <ted> np
# [15:20] <glandium> jesup: the script should simply never import what is being dropped :)
# [15:21] <Oob> hey mounir
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# [15:21] <Oob> what's going on with the fade animation on windows vista/7 bug
# [15:21] <mounir> which fade animation?
# [15:21] <edmorley> filed bug 766533 for the stripping
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# [15:21] <jesup> glandium: I could take the final import set, generate a new clean directory/repo from that (details... I'd have to think), then pull from that
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# [15:21] <hsivonen> tbsaunde: maybe I can
# [15:22] <Oob> mounir: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373266
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# [15:22] <@ehsan> jesup: or just apply patches when importing into m-c
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# [15:23] <jesup> glandium: I was hoping to avoid having the stripping be hard-coded into the script itself (especially as they move files around), which is why I set up a scheme of import into one tag, then merge to another which deletes stuff I don't want
# [15:23] <mounir> Oob: I have no idea
# [15:23] <mounir> Oob: feel free to ask in the bug
# [15:24] <mounir> seems like there was a leak that had to be fixed
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# [15:25] <jesup> ehsan: effectively that's what I was thinking, to drop all the history/changesets. Have to make sure binary files are dealt with, and this will cause huge headaches when they move files and directories, which they do frequently (I have an hg addremove to save my ass there when they move files which we've modified)
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# [15:25] <jesup> But perhaps those headaches are worth it; and I hope they're slowing down at all the moving (one update they moved ~1100 files IIRC)
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# [15:26] <glandium> jesup: do they often move big files?
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# [15:26] <glandium> jesup: because if they do, that's also going to bloat our repository
# [15:26] <jesup> glandium: Dunno. If they move tests, then it's possible. Mostly it's entire directories of source files
# [15:26] <glandium> on top of not helping blame and log
# [15:26] <edmorley> not if it's done with hg rename surely?
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# [15:27] <glandium> edmorley: well, jesup was just telling he was not doing that...
# [15:27] <jesup> They're on svn
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# [15:27] <@khuey> anybody around who can set tracking+>
# [15:27] <jesup> I use hg addremove to catch the moves properly in hg
# [15:27] <@ehsan> svn!!!
# [15:27] <@khuey> er
# [15:27] <@khuey> tracking+?
# [15:27] <@ehsan> khuey: I can
# [15:27] <glandium> jesup: does addremove really catch moves ?
# [15:27] <@khuey> ehsan: can you fix bug 766280?
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# [15:28] <jesup> the .svn directories are part of what I strip... :-)
# [15:28] <glandium> jesup: as in, does it record them as renames, or as delete+add
# [15:28] <@khuey> ehsan: somebody midaired akeybl
# [15:28] <@ehsan> khuey: done
# [15:28] <@khuey> ty
# [15:29] <jesup> glandium: yes, it catches moves if you set the filter correctly. I've found with their stuff we need a 70-80% ish correlation (since we pull only so often)
# [15:29] <edmorley> ehsan, glandium, jesup: cancelling builds in progress on inbound yeah? seeing as we have to clobber anyway
# [15:29] <edmorley> s/builds/last push builds and tests/
# [15:30] <jesup> Sure. Things were looking green, which was good for when we reland
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# [15:32] <jesup> The main thing I want to preserve is so we can make sure we don't lose our changes to their code when we update, and we'll want to update reasonably frequently since we're tracking active development
# [15:33] <@ehsan> edmorley: already did
# [15:33] <gfritzsche> hm, how could i get more info on what leads to NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE on a .getService() in an xpcshell test?
# [15:33] <@ehsan> glandium: jesup: edmorley: ok guys I need to run, will be back online in ~1hr if this is still not resolved
# [15:33] <gfritzsche> any log or something that would me show errors for the actual component?
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# [15:34] <cshields> edmorley: re comment 2, am I to hold off on 766533?
# [15:34] <glandium> cshields: no, that was just for the record
# [15:34] <glandium> cshields: that's till 200MB too much
# [15:35] <glandium> +s
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# [15:35] <edmorley> which is about 30% of the size of the previous hg store
# [15:35] <jesup> glandium: so, we should think about how we go about redoing the import
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# [15:35] <cshields> that's nothing - friday someone checked in 2G of binaries to our puppet svn for sysadmins :(
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# [15:36] <edmorley> cshields: ouch
# [15:36] <darktrojan> Unfocused, still here?
# [15:36] <jmaher> bholley: hey, I wanted to know if you had thoughts on my specialpowers for jsreftests work
# [15:36] <Unfocused> darktrojan: yep
# [15:37] <darktrojan> can I do anything from the UI to cause stuff to be added to addons.sqlite?
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# [15:37] <bholley> jmaher: I'd prefer to get to the point where we can land bug 757046 as soon as possible
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# [15:37] <bholley> jmaher: so I'd be in favor of making sure that everything else is fixed first
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# [15:38] <jmaher> bholley: do you know much about the jstests themselves?
# [15:38] <bholley> jmaher: in what sense?
# [15:38] * bholley isn't sure whether the question was for thoughts about "whether we should do it (now)" or "how to do it"
# [15:39] <jmaher> well I am stuck on one test that is failing
# [15:39] <jmaher> and I really don't understand what it is doing
# [15:39] <darktrojan> Unfocused, nm, thought of something, I think
# [15:39] <glandium> jesup: Import webrtc code in all one changeset, and then land the remaining bugs?
# [15:39] <Unfocused> heh, good
# [15:39] <Unfocused> why?
# [15:40] <bholley> jmaher: which test
# [15:40] <darktrojan> schema change
# [15:40] <jmaher> bholley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/tests/js1_5/extensions/regress-369696-02.js
# [15:40] <darktrojan> adding icons
# [15:40] <bholley> jmaher: what changes are you making, exactly?
# [15:40] <glandium> jesup: so basically, fold from 3d3c19f6c09f to 056c7cd05c08 or 3510ada84733
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# [15:41] <jesup> glandium: Yes, that's probably the way to go, for the initial import. And probably for future ones, though I need to think about that and/or experiment
# [15:41] <Unfocused> ... that doesn't really answer my question :P
# [15:41] <jesup> glandium: can I fold merge changesets?
# [15:41] <nemo> *sigh* sooo
# [15:41] <glandium> jesup: you can qimport and qfold them
# [15:41] <jmaher> bholley: I am just fixing browser.js to use specialpowers
# [15:41] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/dl.dropbox.com/u/6213850/WebGL/nyanCat/nyan.html - why is it I *still* have to do the 2 minutes of work to make nyancat play ogg
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# [15:42] <glandium> jesup: maybe up to 13e9ef345838
# [15:42] <nemo> why can't the author of that add multiple source elements?
# [15:42] <nemo> is it really that hard?
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# [15:42] <glandium> yeah, definitely 13e9ef345838
# [15:42] <nemo> BTW, if anyone knows who wrote the webgl nyancat, I'd love to link them to this variant w/ the fixed music
# [15:42] <bholley> jmaher: oh, ok
# [15:42] <cshields> ted: I don't know of a way to disable the pushlog hook for just that repo, but I'm copying the pushlog db before I strip this anyway, will clean it out of that copy and then move it back.
# [15:42] <bholley> jmaher: so you've reimplemented all those functions in terms of SpecialPowers? nice
# [15:42] <jesup> glandium: Ok, let me start trying that
# [15:42] <cshields> ted: also, the single head hook was already enabled on that repo
# [15:43] <cshields> edmorley: ^
# [15:43] <jmaher> bholley: yeah, just a few of them is all that was needed, but this one test fails
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# [15:44] <edmorley> cshields: sorry, thinko, we don't need to re-enable it, since the prior paragraph was talking about the pushlog hook, not the single-head hook, sorry
# [15:44] <jesup> glandium: Hmmm. I seem to remember trying to qnew a merge and it saying "sorry", and I think that may apply to qimport -r as well
# [15:45] <glandium> jesup: are there merges in what you pushed ?
# [15:45] <jesup> let me hg clone my inbound (with all this stuff) before I start messing around...
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# [15:45] <jesup> glandium: yes
# [15:46] <edmorley> *** PSA: If pulling mozilla-inbound, only do so up to rev c5b6ac34b293 since we're having to strip the very last push (see bug 766533). If you've pulled it already (<~100mins), you'll need to strip locally or the single head hook will get you later. ***
# [15:46] <cshields> heh great.. we don't have strip :)
# [15:46] <cshields> "Strip is not part of hg either, and it's also only for advanced users.
# [15:46] <cshields> Telling a beginner to use strip is like handing them a loaded gun.[1]"
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# [15:47] <ashish> cshields: glad that you're doing this :)
# [15:47] <cshields> thanks :P
# [15:47] <edmorley> :-)
# [15:47] <glandium> cshields: it's part of the mq extension
# [15:47] <jesup> glandium: the import process for getting the webrtc code in and stripped down involves merges. the merges against inbound right before landing can probably be omitted. Let me see....
# [15:47] <glandium> jesup: yeah, i just watched a hg log --graph. not nice to see
# [15:48] <glandium> (and 3d3c19f6c09f has no parent)
# [15:50] <edmorley> oh boy, why did I just hg up
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# [15:51] <glandium> jesup: you can also try hg diff -r c5b6ac34b293:13e9ef345838 | hg qimport -n webrtc -
# [15:51] <jesup> glandium: does that catch binaries?
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# [15:51] <glandium> jesup: let me check
# [15:52] <jesup> that seems like a better way to get a clean source for importing
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# [15:53] <edmorley> is there still supposed to be 60+mb of tests?
# [15:53] <glandium> jesup: looks like it does, provided you use the git format for hg diff
# [15:53] <rail-buildduty> espindola: back, see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=12819736&tree=Firefox&full=1 as an example
# [15:53] <jesup> glandium: cool
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# [15:54] <glandium> edmorley: the tip of inbound has 100M in media/webrtc, everything included
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# [15:54] <glandium> edmorley: in the work tree, that is
# [15:54] <jesup> edmorley: yes, but it might make sense to strip them for now - the plan is to hook those up to our test infrastructure
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# [15:54] <jesup> The landing plan has them landing now, but I can revise that
# [15:55] <cshields> edmorley: gonna be a few, taking a quick backup of inbound in case I fuck it up
# [15:55] <glandium> jesup: well, now or later, if they have to be in the tree, that doesn't make much diffference
# [15:55] <jesup> there may be some binaries in the 1-10mb size in testing
# [15:55] <edmorley> ok :-)
# [15:55] <jesup> glandium: we may find a bunch of them won't work in our tree, so waiting might make sense
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# [15:56] <glandium> jesup: sounds weird (why shouldn't they?), but ok
# [15:57] <espindola> rail-buildduty, ok, building a .tar and a setup.sh is trivial, but which scripts do we have to update for them to be used?
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# [16:00] <jesup> glandium: a lot are designed to be standalone, and others depend on third-party parts we aren't importing (i.e. libjingle - at least yet, and I hope to avoid importing it at all)
# [16:01] <glandium> jesup: then it makes sense to skip them for now
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# [16:01] <jesup> We already have plans to hook them up later in the plan; we'll import them then
# [16:02] <jesup> glandium: thanks for all the help!
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# [16:02] <jesup> I'm going to go work on rebuilding a smaller patchset for relanding
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# [16:03] <jesup> edmorley: (cshields, ehsan, etc) - thanks as well
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# [16:03] <espindola> rail-buildduty, http://runtime-binaries.pvt.build.mozilla.org/tooltool is still not visible from the outside, we will still have the joyous "put the packages in http://people.mozilla.org/~raliiev/"step :-(
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# [16:06] <espindola> rail-buildduty, can you put the gonk ones there so I can see what they look like?
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# [16:08] <rail-buildduty> espindola: sure, I can grab it, but using http://runtime-binaries.pvt.build.mozilla.org/tooltool is a sec requirement for now iirc, probably we need to relax it for try...
# [16:08] <catlee> yeah, we need a place for people to upload their own
# [16:09] <darktrojan> Unfocused, success! http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668766
# [16:09] <catlee> rail-buildduty: we have perms to put files there though, we don't need IT to do that
# [16:09] <rail-buildduty> great
# [16:09] <rail-buildduty> easy!
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# [16:12] <jcranmer> why do we still have xpcom/typelib/xpidl ?
# [16:12] <rail-buildduty> espindola: setup.sh looks like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668767
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# [16:13] <espindola> rail-buildduty, sec requirement that I can't see the packages?
# [16:14] <rail-buildduty> heh, not sure :)
# [16:15] <espindola> rail-buildduty, in the .sh
# [16:15] <espindola> it removes an unversioned dir
# [16:15] <espindola> and moves a versioned one there
# [16:15] <rail-buildduty> afaik, the main concern for m-c is that the server shouldn't be easily writable
# [16:15] <espindola> can the unversioned one be just a symlink?
# [16:16] <rail-buildduty> yeah, up to you
# [16:16] <espindola> how do we maintain multiple version
# [16:16] <espindola> read != write :-)
# [16:16] <rail-buildduty> I know :)
# [16:16] <espindola> rail-buildduty, in particular, how do we remove old ones?
# [16:16] <rail-buildduty> different versions == different sha512 sums
# [16:16] <espindola> rail-buildduty, tooltool remove every file that is not listed?
# [16:16] <rail-buildduty> and we use sha512 as a filename
# [16:17] <espindola> not from the scripts perspective
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# [16:17] <espindola> I is extracting a file named gonk-toolchain-3.tar.bz2
# [16:17] <Yoric> gaston: ping
# [16:18] <rail-buildduty> espindola: no, it just fetches the files, and may overwrite existing ones with the same name
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# [16:18] <espindola> rail-buildduty, I guess we don't really need to maintain multiple versions if this runs as part of every build
# [16:19] <espindola> * running try with a changed manifest will download and override the old one
# [16:19] <rail-buildduty> yeah, just specify files you need in the manifest
# [16:19] <espindola> * the next regular build will delete the one try used
# [16:19] <espindola> ok, I will skip the last mv then, just make the directory in the tar unversioned
# [16:19] <rail-buildduty> sounds good
# [16:20] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: once I've set up the right templates, I think all I need to do is to make the explicit assignment operator private
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# [16:20] <espindola> the install dirs are in a single namespace?
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# [16:20] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: then I can make Assert_NoQueryNeeded a friend :-)
# [16:20] <espindola> currently the package I am building creates a directory named 'inst'
# [16:21] <espindola> but I should probably renamed if it is in a global namespace
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# [16:21] <@smaug> hsivonen: could you explain the patch a bit
# [16:21] <@smaug> hsivonen: ...in the bug
# [16:21] <cshields> ted: is it going to hurt to have a missing rev in pushlogdb?
# [16:21] <mounir> gerv: ping
# [16:21] <cshields> or do they have to be absolutely sequential?
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# [16:21] <gerv> mounir: pong.
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# [16:22] <mounir> gerv: I sent an email to dev-governance about a new sub-module, I was wondering what is the process after that
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# [16:22] <mounir> will someone just add the module at some point?
# [16:22] <gerv> mounir: Wait for the module ownership team to chime in.
# [16:22] <mounir> or should I wait a few days for comments and do that myself?
# [16:22] <mounir> ok
# [16:22] <gerv> You need active support; silence is not consent.
# [16:22] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: ok :) I'd be interested to see the actual patch
# [16:22] <gerv> If you don't get any comments, ping them.
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# [16:23] <mounir> that wasn't very clear from the wiki page actually
# [16:23] <gerv> (I'm not on that team.)
# [16:23] <gerv> mounir: Noted.
# [16:23] <mounir> gerv: thanks :)
# [16:23] * gerv adds a note to self
# [16:23] <cshields> edmorley: ted jesup ashish https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766533#c4
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# [16:26] <edmorley> cshields: thanks :-)
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# [16:26] <jesup> ok. I can't comment about the pushlog stuff
# [16:26] <edmorley> pushlog is blank https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml
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# [16:27] <nemo> glandium: Sooo, when mozilla.debian.net have a non-404 link for squeeze-backports or even experimental for any 4.0+ version of Firefox for armel? :)
# [16:27] <nemo> glandium: reaaaallly want to try it on the pi
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# [16:28] <edmorley> ted: ideas about blank pushlog? https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml (see also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766533#c4)
# [16:28] <jesup> cshields: try that locally first; the hg strip command you gave stripped my entire tree looks like
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# [16:28] <cshields> oy
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# [16:28] <cshields> so pushlog is broke
# [16:28] <cshields> jesup: hrm? I didn't give any command for you to run
# [16:29] <cshields> edmorley: yeah looks like we'll have to fix up pushlog some more
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# [16:29] <jesup> cshields: I was trying the "hg strip" command you put in the bug on my local inbound clone (cloned from my inbound dir after I pushed)
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# [16:30] <jesup> Just trying to help make sure things are in a good state
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# [16:30] <edmorley> the repo itself looks good to me https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/summary
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# [16:30] <jesup> ok, cool
# [16:30] <cshields> let me see if I can clean up pushlog, jas
# [16:30] <ted> cshields: i uh, don't know offhand
# [16:30] <cshields> ted: I think https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml has our answer :)
# [16:31] <ted> heh
# [16:31] <ted> in fairness, i did say this was going to "break a lot of shit"
# [16:31] <cshields> hehe it always does :)
# [16:31] <jesup> Don't know why hg strip didn't work locally for me, but it doesn't matter
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# [16:32] <edmorley> page 2 of the pushlog works at least heh
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# [16:32] <jesup> yup. How many are missing?
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# [16:33] <lahabana> any layout master here?
# [16:34] <db48x> possibly. what's up?
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# [16:34] <lahabana> well it's about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157846
# [16:34] <froydnj> is there a way to get complete test summaries (ala tbpl's lower right window) quickly on tbpl?
# [16:35] <edmorley> froydnj: speed them up, or fetch outside of tbpl?
# [16:35] <nemo> glandium: hm. n/m apparently raspbian has it. I'll just switch to that :)
# [16:35] <@ehsan> edmorley: arewestrippedyet.com?
# [16:35] <lahabana> db48x http://pastebin.com/8AKfH30p
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# [16:35] <edmorley> yes, but pushlog
# [16:35] <froydnj> edmorley: speed them up would be nice, but I'd just like a bird's eye view of how, say, all the mochitest suites did
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# [16:36] <lahabana> we've got that http://mibpaste.com/jTTw6A to reflow the kids
# [16:36] <db48x> ah, that bug
# [16:36] <lahabana> the idea is at the moment we build reflowState
# [16:36] <edmorley> cshields: doesn't the entry from the pushlog table need to be deleted too, not just the changesets table?
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# [16:37] <NeilAway> tbsaunde, Ms2ger: the system works :-)
# [16:37] <cshields> there's only one pushlog entry
# [16:37] <lahabana> we should change so that mComputedPadding is equal to aReflowState.mComputedPadding
# [16:37] <cshields> and all of the changesets that go with it
# [16:37] <cshields> unless strip was supposed to pull out that whole commit and not just the change?
# [16:37] <rail-buildduty> espindola: I'm going to backout the last clang change if you don't mind (and revert to the previous one)
# [16:37] <cshields> ahh looks like it did
# [16:37] <cshields> I misunderstood strip
# [16:37] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: is there a way I can flag the unwanted function to warn me rather than error out?
# [16:38] <espindola> rail-buildduty, sorry, which one?
# [16:38] <db48x> lahabana: so what's your question, exactly?
# [16:38] <cshields> this is an easier fix then :) ashish: we just pull the single pushlog entry and all changesets entries where pushid='10884'
# [16:38] <cshields> jas
# [16:38] <rail-buildduty> espindola: 158158
# [16:38] <lahabana> we tried by violently changing reflowState.mComputedPadding and reflowState.mComputedBorderPadding to our desired values it works but as soon as you right in the field it goes back to no padding
# [16:38] <edmorley> cshields: yeah, but the bug says "delete from changesets where rev = '97127';" when I think we need: delete from changesets where pushid = '10884'; \n delete from pushlog where pushid = '10884';
# [16:38] <espindola> rail-buildduty, we should basically remove all traces of 158158
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# [16:38] <espindola> reverting back to 155xxx
# [16:38] <cshields> edmorley: right, I only removed the offending changeset
# [16:38] <cshields> not the whole commit
# [16:38] <cshields> let me do that
# [16:38] <edmorley> sorry missed scrollback when typing
# [16:39] <cshields> np
# [16:39] <rail-buildduty> espindola: ok, I'll do it
# [16:39] <lahabana> db48x is there a way at the creation of a nsHTMLReflowState to change the way to compute mComputedPadding
# [16:39] <espindola> it is really unfortunate that 155xx got removed on os X :-(
# [16:39] <lahabana> I mean create a nsHTMLReflowState with a different mComputedPadding
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# [16:39] * @smaug thinks lahabana wants dbaron or bz
# [16:39] <db48x> he does
# [16:40] <edmorley> froydnj: your best option is to use filter and 'mochitest'
# [16:40] <db48x> but he'd never get anywhere just by asking if there was a guru around ;)
# [16:40] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: in fact, Assert_NoQueryNeeded is a class member, so it can happily do_QueryInterface itself :-)
# [16:40] <db48x> lahabana: so, let's see
# [16:40] <edmorley> froydnj: there is a pre-cache logs bug, but it had to be backed out and hasn't been fixed up yet
# [16:40] <lahabana> smaug exactly ;)
# [16:41] <cshields> fixed
# [16:41] <lahabana> db48x: sorry
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# [16:41] <NeilAway> lahabana: I know some people have a utility that uploads directly to pastebin.com but if not could you consider pastebin.mozilla.org ?
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# [16:41] <lahabana> NeilAway: yes sorry just a question of habits I will force myself
# [16:42] <cshields> edmorley: R/F
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# [16:42] <db48x> lahabana: no need to be
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# [16:42] <froydnj> edmorley: hm, the filters thing doesn't quite DTRT. what's the component for tbpl bugs?
# [16:43] <edmorley> cshields: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml/ works but https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml/1 doesn't for some reason?
# [16:43] <cshields> wfm
# [16:43] <cshields> caching?
# [16:43] <edmorley> froydnj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Webtools&component=Tinderboxpushlog
# [16:44] <froydnj> edmorley: heh. thanks!
# [16:44] <ashish> edmorley: yeah, its cached
# [16:44] <edmorley> cshields: ah, wfm now
# [16:44] <ashish> wfm now
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# [16:44] <@ehsan> great, can we reopen?
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# [16:44] <cshields> cache rules everything around me
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# [16:44] <edmorley> one push first so others stopped by double head
# [16:45] <@ehsan> edmorley: I can do that ;)
# [16:45] <edmorley> :-)
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# [16:45] <edmorley> I need to strip now :-/
# [16:45] <smontagu> what's a good engligh word for "half a pair"?
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# [16:45] <smontagu> english, even
# [16:45] <db48x> lahabana: so you paste isn't a diff
# [16:45] <db48x> lahabana: you're adding that function?
# [16:45] <lahabana> yes
# [16:45] <db48x> smontagu: "half of a pair"
# [16:46] <@ehsan> edmorley: should I push on a closed tree?
# [16:46] <db48x> smontagu: enligsh words are composable
# [16:46] <smontagu> jfkthame: I'm looking for a less ambiguous way to say "closer"
# [16:46] <edmorley> ehsan: yup, just to be safe
# [16:46] <lahabana> db48x: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716875
# [16:46] <lahabana> it's the code that solves that
# [16:46] <db48x> smontagu: you can build "phrases" to use in place of single words for rarely-used concepts ;)
# [16:46] <@ehsan> cshields: oops
# [16:46] <@ehsan> pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/
# [16:46] <@ehsan> searching for changes
# [16:46] <@ehsan> remote: abort: Operation not permitted: /repo/hg/mozilla/integration/mozilla-inbound/.hg/journal.bookmarks
# [16:46] <lahabana> but isn't pushed now it's currently on try
# [16:46] <cshields> o_O
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# [16:47] <jfkthame> smontagu: pairEndingChar ?
# [16:47] <smontagu> db48x: but I want a nice concise variable name
# [16:47] <cshields> what is that??
# [16:47] <@ehsan> zero ideas
# [16:47] <@ehsan> zero ideas
# [16:47] <@ehsan> argh
# [16:47] <cshields> oh
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# [16:47] <cshields> jas
# [16:47] <@ehsan> trying again, same thing
# [16:47] <db48x> smontagu: half-of-a-pair (or halfOfAPair, or...)
# [16:48] <smontagu> db48x: german is more convenient in this respect
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# [16:48] <cshields> yeah, just a second..
# [16:48] <ashish> chown must be in order :)
# [16:48] <db48x> smontagu: heh, quite true
# [16:48] <smontagu> dampenSchiffFartGesellschaftHeilsGeschichte
# [16:49] <db48x> lol
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# [16:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, patch? :)
# [16:50] <armenzg_mtg> jimm: ping
# [16:51] <cshields> ehsan: hrmm.. what account name do you push with?
# [16:51] <edmorley> philor: thanks for the sw:[orange] addition, role on bug 764424 being pushed to prod :-)
# [16:51] <@ehsan> cshields: eakhgari@mozilla.com I believe
# [16:51] * @ehsan double checks
# [16:51] <cshields> odd.. you own that file
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# [16:51] <@ehsan> cshields: yep
# [16:51] <@ehsan> I do?
# [16:51] <cshields> or waitm no..
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# [16:52] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: pong
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# [16:52] <cshields> ehsan: try again, but I want another user to try after too - this one is a bit odd
# [16:52] <smontagu> jfkthame: lol @ s/poped/popped/ Henry VIII would be proud
# [16:53] <Ms2ger> jimm, someone was looking for you earlier
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# [16:53] <@ehsan> cshields: worked fine this time
# [16:53] <jfkthame> :)
# [16:53] <@ehsan> edmorley: wanna push a checkin-needed patch?
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# [16:53] <@ehsan> edmorley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=634895&action=edit
# [16:54] <armenzg_mtg> jimm: would you want to have access to the win8 testing machine to see why the build does not start?
# [16:54] <edmorley> ehsan: ok
# [16:54] <armenzg_mtg> if you can't before Friday that is fine because I will have the symbols working
# [16:54] <db48x> mmm
# [16:54] <db48x> lahabana: so, this might be what you want: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsHTMLReflowState.h#374
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# [16:55] <edmorley> ehsan: though that bug's patches have been known to bounce
# [16:55] <@ehsan> edmorley: I have another one too
# [16:55] <@ehsan> edmorley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=634809&action=edit
# [16:55] <@ehsan> :)
# [16:55] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: well I can certainly take a look if you like. did you try uninstalling/reinstalling vs?
# [16:55] <@ehsan> life is full of landing opportunities
# [16:55] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ah, now that could be a problem
# [16:56] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: you see, I'm RDPing though a VPN so that I can VNC to a VM from which I'm SSHing to my build machine...
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# [16:56] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, pbmoz.py :)
# [16:57] <glandium> nemo: the debian builders for backports don't want to build sqlite on armel, without which iceweasel won't build :(
# [16:57] <jimm> armenzg_mtg: I might be able to better diagnose that crashiness problem in the builds with direct access, although vnc is pretty crummy for doing anything other than the simplest of tasks.
# [16:57] <edmorley> ehsan: worked :-)
# [16:57] <cshields> *phew*
# [16:58] <edmorley> :-)
# [16:58] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: pbmoz.py?
# [16:58] <@ehsan> cool
# [16:58] <@ehsan> thanks, cshields, glandium and edmorley
# [16:58] <glandium> can someone explain to me why there was never a talos regression mail when bug 616262 was backed out, and yet not another one when it landed again?
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, https://gist.github.com/1110510
# [16:58] <cshields> cool! /me goes back to the conference
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# [17:00] <nemo> glandium: welp. I've been told raspbian is the way to go anyway :)
# [17:00] <@ehsan> edmorley: so should we reopen now?
# [17:00] <edmorley> ehsan: done
# [17:00] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: nice
# [17:00] <@ehsan> ty
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# [17:00] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: just need to wait for my build to finish
# [17:00] <Ms2ger> Yeah :)
# [17:00] <nemo> glandium: shame since I spent all this time setting up this image. ah well.
# [17:00] <edmorley> ehsan: added message to tree status, should we all@m.c etc?
# [17:00] <edmorley> oh dev.platform
# [17:00] <edmorley> or
# [17:01] * jcranmer sighs
# [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley: dev.platform
# [17:01] <jcranmer> one thing python doesn't have
# [17:01] <jcranmer> is decent ADTs
# [17:01] <Ms2ger> edmorley, yammer
# [17:01] <edmorley> Ms2ger: just for you :-)
# [17:01] <jcranmer> there's no equivalent to std::map or java.util.TreeMap :-/
# [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley: all@m.c should read dev.platform ;)
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> ehsan, even webdev people? Or are those banned from all@m.c?
# [17:02] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I meant those who put stuff into m-i/m-c
# [17:02] <jcranmer> oh dear
# [17:02] <edmorley> ehsan: you mean like talos regression emails should work, or my christmas presents should have included a pony?
# [17:02] <jcranmer> python actually rejected adding a red-black tree, saying there's no use case
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# [17:03] <@bz_sleep> here, but need to restart irc client
# [17:03] <@bz_sleep> one sec
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# [17:03] <@ehsan> jcranmer: I think that's because if you're using python, you already don't care about perf/algorithmic complexity :P
# [17:03] <@ehsan> edmorley: the latter
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# [17:04] <@bz> ok
# [17:04] <@bz> whatsup?
# [17:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: ^
# [17:04] <@ehsan> omg osx 10.7 is really unstable
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# [17:05] <@ehsan> don't talk about anything important until I get back guys ;)
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# [17:06] <Ms2ger> bz, so, one thing is that nullable dictionaries are completely broken
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# [17:06] <@bz> mmm
# [17:06] <@bz> define completely broken?
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# [17:07] <NeilAway> oops, I forgot to put an N on my -j and my load average is now 100
# [17:07] <Ms2ger> As in, it creates a Nullable<Dict> and then const_casts .Value()
# [17:07] <mwu> I took down a machine forgetting to put that N in
# [17:07] <Ms2ger> Which asserts because mIsNull is true
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# [17:07] <@bz> ah
# [17:07] <@bz> ah
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# [17:07] <@bz> needs to SetValue()
# [17:07] <ted> jcranmer: there is a heapq module
# [17:07] <ted> but it's sort of annoying
# [17:08] <Ms2ger> The other thing is that I found a test that wants me to throw when null is passed
# [17:08] <ted> it just uses lists as the actual data structure, and requires you to use the module methods to insert/remove
# [17:08] <@bz> for a nullable dictionary?
# [17:08] <@bz> or for xhr or something?
# [17:08] <Ms2ger> For the dictionary
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# [17:09] <@bz> this is for xhr, right?
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [17:09] <@bz> where we're not supposed to have an arg at al?
# [17:09] <@bz> er, all
# [17:09] <@bz> So what is this test testing, exactly?
# [17:09] <@bz> can I see it?
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> content/base/test/test_XHR_parameters.html
# [17:10] <@bz> oh
# [17:10] <@bz> bogus test
# [17:10] <@bz> fix it
# [17:10] <jcranmer> ted: I basically need to do a "grab the value X from this tree which contains ranges of [A, A+B)"
# [17:10] <@bz> mm
# [17:10] <@bz> r=sicking
# [17:10] <@bz> makes it hard to get him to review your fix
# [17:11] <ted> jcranmer: you could probably do that with heapq but it'd be sort of a pain
# [17:11] <jcranmer> which is O(lg n) if you have a sorted tree, O(n) if you don't
# [17:11] <@bz> I'll review, and just double-check with him when he gets back
# [17:11] <jcranmer> ted: no, you can't
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> wfm :)
# [17:11] <lahabana> is it only me or bugzilla is down?
# [17:11] <@bz> or you could make the dictionary be non-nullable, of course
# [17:11] <ted> jcranmer: okay :)
# [17:11] <glob> lahabana, works for me
# [17:11] * ted sucks at data structures
# [17:11] <@bz> but I don't think it's worth it
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> OK
# [17:12] <@bz> since we definitely want to move in the direction of null == undefined == {} == nothing passed for dictionaries
# [17:12] <jcranmer> ted: heaps are basically "we can grab the smallest and reroot the tree in O(lg n) time"
# [17:12] <@bz> imho
# [17:12] <@bz> so for the Value() thing
# [17:12] <@bz> in the codegen
# [17:12] <db48x> lahabana: I see a dns error, oddly
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> I've got a fix for that
# [17:12] <lahabana> it's back...
# [17:12] <@bz> if type.nullable():
# [17:12] <@bz> selfRef = "${declName}.Value()"
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# [17:12] <@bz> That should become a SetValue()
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> That's too minimal
# [17:12] <@bz> hmm?
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Unless you want me to add const T& SetValue() const
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# [17:13] <@bz> oh
# [17:13] <@bz> I see
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# [17:13] <Ms2ger> I just declared it non-const
# [17:13] <jcranmer> ted: it also has the advantage that unsorted list -> heap takes O(n) time, not O(n lg n) and is 100% in place
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> That looks a lot happier :)
# [17:13] <@bz> mmm
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# [17:13] <@bz> we do want the const in general
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# [17:14] <@bz> const_cast your way to victory, please
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# [17:15] * @bz hates C++ when dealing with const here
# [17:15] <ted> heh
# [17:15] <ted> mutable! :)
# [17:15] * Ms2ger hates C++
# [17:15] <sheppy> Ms2ger: I love you, man.
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# [17:15] <Ms2ger> sheppy, if only we'd used templates here...
# [17:16] <sheppy> Ms2ger: I take that back then.
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> :D
# [17:16] <jesup> edmorley: should we update the topic?
# [17:16] <froydnj> now you have a hideousmassoftotallyunreadableerrormessages problems
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# [17:16] <Ms2ger> froydnj, shrug, I already have that
# [17:16] <lahabana> bz have u got a sec?
# [17:17] <jesup> edmorley: (and glandium) I have an almost complete set of patches that doesn't import any of the history or stuff we're not using; doing some check builds
# [17:17] <@bz> lahabana: if it's very quick
# [17:17] <lahabana> ok
# [17:17] <@bz> sheppy: so I started https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings
# [17:17] <lahabana> we're working on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157846
# [17:17] <@bz> sheppy: will try to fill out the skeleton some more as I go
# [17:17] <@bz> lahabana: yes, I recall. ;)
# [17:18] <@bz> lahabana: oh, it's not fixed by your other change?
# [17:18] <lahabana> and we're looking for a way to change the mComputedPadding of the child
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# [17:18] <lahabana> bz no sadly only the % padding is fixing
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# [17:18] <@bz> ah, I see
# [17:18] <@bz> ok
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# [17:18] <lahabana> but we think it's just a minor change to what we did
# [17:18] <sheppy> bz: you the man. I'll follow behind later and copy edit and sexy-ify as needed.
# [17:19] <@bz> lahabana: how about this. Please describe in the bug the approach you're trying to take?
# [17:19] <lahabana> ok for sure I'll do that
# [17:19] <@bz> lahabana: and I will comment with answers to questions?
# [17:19] <lahabana> bz thx
# [17:19] <@bz> lahabana: no problem. Thank you for being willing to defer it; I don't have time to go digging through reflow state code right this second
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# [17:20] <froydnj> hm, I bet the webrtc landing is going to totally screw with this event queue stuff
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# [17:20] <@bz_away> Ms2ger: btw... sounds like we need tests that actually run during make check or something, not just the tests we have now.
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> Yes
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# [17:20] <@bz_away> Ms2ger: or just more stuff using webidl so we exercise all the codepahts
# [17:20] <@bz_away> er, paths
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# [17:21] <Ms2ger> That too
# [17:21] <Ms2ger> And tests for that stuff
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# [17:22] <edmorley> jesup: good suggestion, thanks :-)
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# [17:23] <@ehsan> vladan-away: do we check whether we're in a debug build before reporting telemetry?
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# [17:23] <vladan> ehsan: we check whether we are in a release build, yes
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# [17:23] <@ehsan> vladan: ok thanks
# [17:23] <vladan> ehsan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/telemetry/Telemetry.cpp#1210
# [17:25] <@ehsan> vladan: that code makes me weep
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# [17:26] <tbsaunde> so, NS_Alloc() is infalible right?
# [17:26] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, correct
# [17:26] <Ms2ger> ehsan, how did it kill your kitten now?
# [17:27] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: ok, that's what I thought from teh 10 layers of macros and trivial functions ;)
# [17:27] <froydnj> it put his cat and dog together in peculiar ways
# [17:27] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/telemetry/Telemetry.cpp#1210
# [17:27] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, yeah, that one's pretty bad
# [17:27] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you mean XPCOM?
# [17:28] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: is using moz_xmalloc(0 directly disapproved of?
# [17:28] <glandium> MarcoZ: thanks for the a? on 765172, it completely got off my mind
# [17:28] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, no, I would personally prefer that over NS_Alloc
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# [17:28] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: no this is xpconnect's fault :)
# [17:29] <@ehsan> not that xpcom is great
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# [17:29] <@ehsan> but let's assign blame where it's due
# [17:29] <froydnj> ehsan: what's wrong at that link?
# [17:29] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I mean, that signature is pretty much standard XPCOM procedure
# [17:29] <@ehsan> froydnj: whatever happened to being able to |return true;|? :)
# [17:30] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: because that's how xpconnec returns values to js :)
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# [17:30] <ted> xpconnect does suck
# [17:30] <Ms2ger> You can't really blame XPConnect for solving the general problem when it's designed to do just that
# [17:30] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I can, watch me:
# [17:31] <@ehsan> xpconnect, you suck!
# [17:31] * Ms2ger shoots ehsan
# [17:31] <@ehsan> :D
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# [17:31] <Ms2ger> I agree it sucks, I've seen the code
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# [17:32] <Ms2ger> But within the constraints it has, you can't really avoid that signature
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# [17:33] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: sure you can, it could convert attribute getters to something like:
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# [17:33] <Ms2ger> If you know they can't throw, sure
# [17:33] <@ehsan> bool GetCanSend(nsresult* error /* can be ignored if no error */);
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# [17:34] <Optimizer> 8suppose from a parent, I acces a child, how do I know if the child is a label or a checkbox ?
# [17:34] <@ehsan> or even better drop the nsresult altogether if the IDL includes an attribute, etc.
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> But nsresult* sucks just as bad, UMO
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> IMO*
# [17:34] <@ehsan> not if you don't have to assign to it
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# [17:34] <Ms2ger> It's much worse if you do have to throw
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> *rv = NS_ERROR_FAILURE;
# [17:34] <AryehGregor> Clearly, we just need to start using C++ exceptions in Gecko.
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> return ???
# [17:34] <MarcoZ> glandium: YW! Let's see where we are allowed to land it. Are you prepared to land these yourself?
# [17:35] <glandium> MarcoZ: i can land them wherever we're allowed to
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> ehsan, and it's even more fun if you want the attribute setter to be consistent
# [17:35] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: and spend years making our code exception safe? ;)
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# [17:35] <glandium> AryehGregor: haha
# [17:35] <jcranmer> we need a [cantfail] attribute
# [17:35] <AryehGregor> ehsan, naturally.
# [17:35] <@ehsan> jcranmer: amen to than
# [17:35] <jcranmer> that does outparamdel
# [17:36] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: sounds good
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, right, that's why the new bindings have it :)
# [17:36] * @ehsan files the bug
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> ehsan, suped
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> duped*
# [17:36] <AryehGregor> What we need is to not have C++ code call the same functions as JS.
# [17:36] * Ms2ger cant' tpye tody
# [17:36] <jcranmer> it would only be valid on a builtinclass interface
# [17:36] <AryehGregor> Because C++ code has totally different needs.
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# [17:36] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: bah, someone used do_QueryInterface inside ?:
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, hah
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> r-
# [17:36] <jcranmer> or maybe it could generate a nonvirtual overload
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# [17:37] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, what's non-virtual got to do with that?
# [17:37] <Optimizer> can I know if an element is a label or checkbox ?
# [17:37] <@ehsan> Optimizer: element.localName
# [17:37] <Ms2ger> The issue with that is that's it's completely incompatible with how XPConnect works
# [17:37] <jcranmer> bool GetAttribute() { nsresult rv; bool _result; rv = GetAttribute(&_result); MOZ_ASSERT(rv); return _resul; }
# [17:37] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: yes, because xpconnect sucks ;)
# [17:37] <Optimizer> ehsan: thanks
# [17:37] <Ms2ger> ehsan, *shrug*
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> ehsan, as I said before, I've seen the code, I know it sucks
# [17:38] <@ehsan> well I'm not talking about its code
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I also hack on the new bindings, I'm not sure which one is better
# [17:38] <@ehsan> I'm talking about its design
# [17:38] <@ehsan> if you design something badly, you're going to be bound to suckiness no matter how well the code is written
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, nice trick, asserting that it didn't return NS_OK ;)
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# [17:39] <jcranmer> er. MOZ_ASSERT(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv));
# [17:39] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you mean the call-virtual-functions-through-assembly part?
# [17:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: well, that too, but I'm talking about the high level design
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# [17:40] <Ms2ger> ehsan, something more concrete, please :)
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# [17:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: blaming xpconnect would be like blaming RDF for solving the general database problem
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# [17:40] <froydnj> there's bug 755389 for poor man's idl devirtualization...
# [17:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: how it enforces every C++ method to return an error code even where it doesn't make sense?
# [17:41] <Ms2ger> ehsan, that's hardly "high level design"
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# [17:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: well, ok, call it whatever you will :)
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# [17:44] <Ms2ger> if (!const_cast<MozXMLHttpRequestParametersWorkers&>(const_cast<Nullable<MozXMLHttpRequestParametersWorkers>&>(arg0).SetValue()).Init(cx, &(0 < argc ? argv[0] : JSVAL_NULL).toObject())) {
# [17:44] <Ms2ger> bz_away, r?
# [17:45] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, the irony: both ?: arguments static cast to the interface anyway
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# [17:45] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, lovely
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# [17:46] <Ms2ger> ehsan, (this is the new bindings, not XPConnect, if you'd like to complain :))
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# [17:46] <tbsaunde> so, anyone have a good idea how we could make nsTArray methods return void if the array is infalible, andthe only failure mode is oom?
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# [17:46] <glandium> jlebar: there are inbound git clones ?
# [17:46] <froydnj> glandium: there are central ones
# [17:46] <jlebar> glandium, there are also inbound.
# [17:47] <jlebar> https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/tree/inbound
# [17:47] <jlebar> er.
# [17:47] <jlebar> Yes, that one. It has an inbound branch.
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# [17:47] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: although one is ambiguous, sigh
# [17:47] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: but that one should really be using do_QueryObject
# [17:47] <jlebar> I forget now doublec ever made an inbound clone similar to his m-c clone.
# [17:47] <Ms2ger> https://bitbucket.org/mozilla/releases-mozilla-inbound
# [17:47] <glandium> jlebar: well apparently, it has the webrtc landing :(
# [17:47] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: which ones?
# [17:48] <jlebar> ehsan, ^
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# [17:48] <@ehsan> jlebar: glandium: my clone is https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central
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# [17:48] <@ehsan> which has both central (master) and inbound
# [17:48] <@ehsan> and full history
# [17:48] <jlebar> ehsan, Right. And needs to be stripped.
# [17:48] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: for instance, when appending you may want a pointer to the new element
# [17:48] <@ehsan> oh
# [17:49] * @ehsan looks
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# [17:49] <jfkthame> smontagu: how would you feel about "pairEndChar" instead of "closer"?
# [17:50] <smontagu> jfkthame: prefer endPairChar
# [17:50] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: AppendElements() is the one I'm looking at
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# [17:50] <jfkthame> smontagu: ok, i'm fine with that - i'll update it throughout
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# [17:51] <tbsaunde> jlebar: well, s/stripped/push -f'd/
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# [17:51] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: is there a public version of EnsureCapacity()?
# [17:52] <gregglind> I am trying to strip out -moz selectors from my addon... where is the easiest list of whch ones I can 'unprefix'
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# [17:53] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I guess not, but AppendElments(n) is meh
# [17:53] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: SetCapacity
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# [17:53] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: but seriously, you might want a pointer to the new element(s)
# [17:54] <NeilAway> gregglind: unprefix them all, then check the error console ;-)
# [17:54] <@bz> gregglind: you there?
# [17:54] <@bz> gregglind: are you talking selectors, or properties?
# [17:54] <nemo> http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2927727&cid=40385687 I assume this person is hitting a site where cookies are being added from all over the place.
# [17:54] <nemo> and isn't bright enough to realise it, but still bright enough to enable whitelisting
# [17:54] <nemo> an interesting balance of foolishness
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# [17:54] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hmm, I should be able to write nsCOMPtr<nsIBase> base = /*nsCOMPtr<nsIDerived>*/ derived; ? I wonder what I messed up
# [17:55] <@ehsan> jlebar: I just needed to do git push -f, what needs to be stripped?
# [17:55] <Ms2ger> I hope so
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# [17:55] <jlebar> ehsan, I'd re-sync from a few days ago, just to be safe...
# [17:56] <jlebar> ehsan, but https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766533
# [17:56] <@ehsan> jlebar: but why? everything looks fine...
# [17:56] <@ehsan> jlebar: I do have those csets in my local clone
# [17:56] <@ehsan> but no bookmark points to them
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# [17:56] <@ehsan> so they're not in any git branches
# [17:56] <jlebar> ehsan, I mean, if you push -f'ed, that's probably all you needed to do.
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> if (!const_cast<Nullable<Dict>&>(const_cast< Nullable<Dict> & >(arg0.Value())).SetValue().Init(cx, &argv[0].toObject())) {
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [17:57] <Ms2ger> bz, I hope you like what you wrought...
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# [17:57] <@ehsan> jlebar: I'll investigate a bit more, and will fix things if I find a breakage
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# [17:57] <NeilAway> heh, my -j build ran out of pids
# [17:57] <@ehsan> jlebar: glandium: btw, the releases-foo repos are not maintained by me, they're maintained by hwine I believe
# [17:57] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I guess that's a use case for AppendElements(n) but why does SetCapacity() need to return a bool?
# [17:58] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: well, you're right that the infallible version doesn't need to
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# [17:58] <sawrubh> ehsan: ping
# [17:58] <@ehsan> sawrubh: hey
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# [17:59] <taras> rail-buildduty: can you reply to rafael's email?
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# [17:59] <@bz> Ms2ger: where what?
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# [17:59] <Ms2ger> A nullable optional dictionary
# [17:59] <Ms2ger> if (!const_cast<Nullable<Dict>&>(const_cast< Nullable<Dict> & >(arg0.Value())).SetValue().Init(cx, &argv[0].toObject())) {
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# [18:00] <sawrubh> ehsan: I'm writing a test for Bug 763468. This is what I've done : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668816
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# [18:01] <@bz> Ms2ger: looks about right for the generated code
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# [18:01] <Ms2ger> bz, I wasn't going for "wrong", I was going for "incredibly ugly"
# [18:01] <@bz> Ms2ger: good thing all those casts don't result in any generated assembly. ;)
# [18:01] <sawrubh> ehsan: When I'm running the test I am getting some errors in my own tests, which are this : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668817
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> bz, ... are you sure? ;)
# [18:02] <@ehsan> sawrubh: you should wait for the tab to load before reading its currentURI
# [18:02] <sawrubh> ehsan: I wanted to know if what I'm doing to access the URL's is correct
# [18:02] <@bz> Ms2ger: yes. ;)
# [18:02] <@bz> Ms2ger: I've checked, on several compilers. ;)
# [18:02] <sawrubh> ehsan: how do I do that ?
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> bz, I knew it! ;)
# [18:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: plus it's obvious from theoretical first principles.
# [18:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: anyway
# [18:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: I agree it's incredibly ugly
# [18:03] <Ms2ger> Logic? What logic?
# [18:03] <@ehsan> sawrubh: similar to this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/privatebrowsing/test/browser/browser_privatebrowsing_viewsource.js?force=1#15
# [18:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: I'd love to have a better way to do this!
# [18:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: all I want is a "make this const" cast.
# [18:04] <Ms2ger> const T& MakeThisConst(T& foo) { return foo; }
# [18:04] <Ms2ger> Does that work?
# [18:04] <@bz> oh, hmm
# [18:04] <@bz> Very very interesting idea
# [18:04] <@bz> We should try it!
# [18:04] <@bz> could really simplify the code
# [18:05] * @bz had been thinking in terms of a constifier class of some sort, but an inline function sounds good
# [18:05] <Ms2ger> Next time you've got hard problems with C++... ;)
# [18:05] <@bz> heh
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# [18:05] <@bz> I've been asking about this one for literally weeks
# [18:05] <@bz> ok
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# [18:05] <sheppy> Ms2ger: switch to assembly!
# [18:05] * Ms2ger strangles sheppy
# [18:05] <@bz> let's get unions landed
# [18:05] <@bz> and then give this a shot
# [18:05] <@bz> want to file?
# [18:05] <Ms2ger> Not before I land this patch, you ain't! ;)
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# [18:06] <sheppy> Ms2ger: that must mean you want my job. :)
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# [18:09] <jesup> edmorley: (glandium, ehsan, cshield, philor) Updated patchqueue in try, without all the history (and with 65MB of test data files removed from now) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=03fa35c60bd1
# [18:09] <jesup> s/from/for/
# [18:10] <@ehsan> jesup: cool
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# [18:10] <jesup> local linux build was happy
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# [18:12] <jlebar> edmorley, How can I disable a mochitest specifically on native Android?
# [18:12] <jlebar> edmorley, I guess I write a conditional in the Makefile?
# [18:12] <glandium> jesup: looks good, thanks
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# [18:13] <philor> jlebar: there's a separate json file for disabling on Android
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# [18:13] <edmorley> jlebar: maybe ask jlebar if there is a way to specify native in the android.josn?
# [18:13] <jesup> ehsan/glandium/edmorly/etc: patches dir is 27MB
# [18:13] <philor> there's no documentation for it that I know of
# [18:13] <edmorley> jlebar: jmaher even
# [18:13] <jlebar> If not, I'll disable it on all of Android.
# [18:13] <jlebar> But yes, native-only would be nice.
# [18:14] <edmorley> jlebar: eg http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97c101cc5839
# [18:15] <jmaher> jlebar: yeah, please edit testing/mochitest/android.json and add the test case that you want to disable for native android
# [18:15] <jlebar> jmaher, But that also disables for XUL android?
# [18:15] <jmaher> jlebar: no
# [18:15] <jmaher> on xul we run a set of hardcoded directories
# [18:15] <jlebar> jmaher, Okay, perfect. Thanks.
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# [18:16] <jlebar> Ah, I see.
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# [18:16] <gregglind> sorry, bz, i thin I have some of each, let me look at my list
# [18:17] <jlebar> jmaher, I can put whatever I want after the colon -- "TIMED_OUT", "RANDOM", etc. don't have any specific meaning?
# [18:17] <jmaher> jlebar: right now it is just a notes section
# [18:17] <jmaher> although in the future that could be used as metadata
# [18:17] <gregglind> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668820
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# [18:18] <jmaher> jlebar: the more info we have in the android.json as to why a testcase is in there (reason, bug, etc...), the better we will be suited for fixing tests in the future
# [18:18] <jlebar> jmaher, Hm. So should I use one of the existing tags, or should I put the bug number?
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# [18:19] <gregglind> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668821 rather
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# [18:19] <jmaher> jlebar: if it matches an existing tag, crash, timeout, random that would be good, and just add a bug number in as well
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# [18:20] <jlebar> jmaher, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668822 ?
# [18:20] <@bz> gregglind: oh, so that's not selectors, but property stuff
# [18:21] <@bz> gregglind: layout/style/nsCSSPropList.h has a list of all the supported property names
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# [18:21] <jmaher> jlebar: looks great
# [18:21] <@bz> gregglind: prefixed values are harder. :(
# [18:21] <jlebar> jmaher, Awesome. Thanks.
# [18:21] <jmaher> btw, are those new tests?
# [18:21] <@bz> wow
# [18:21] <@bz> hg strip
# [18:21] <@bz> on repos people can pull from
# [18:21] <@bz> ballsy!
# [18:22] <jlebar> jmaher, Yes. Something is going wrong with them, and I'm not sure what. But that code isn't going to be run on native Android anytime soon.
# [18:22] <jlebar> jmaher, So with a b2g deadline in a month, it's hard to prioritize figuring it out.
# [18:22] <jmaher> cool, just making sure I didn't overlook anything when I turned all the tests on last week
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# [18:23] <jesup> bz: fun, eh?
# [18:23] * @bz wonders how easy it would be to get per-source-line blame in our profiler
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# [18:23] * @bz bets "hard"
# [18:23] <jesup> bz: integrate it with emacs
# [18:23] <jlebar> bz, You almost always want the disassembly anyway.
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# [18:24] <@bz> jlebar: hmm
# [18:24] <@bz> jlebar: well, yes
# [18:24] <jlebar> bz, I just mean, that is kind of easier.
# [18:25] <@bz> jlebar: per-instruction blame?
# [18:25] <jlebar> bz, The profiler can capture the pc when it samples?
# [18:25] <@bz> jlebar: per-instruction blame would be great too, but going from instruction to source seems like a solved problem if you have debugging symbols
# [18:25] <@bz> jlebar: that would be nice, yeah
# [18:25] <gregglind> thanks bz... i figure the xul ones are what they are (-moz-menu and such )
# [18:26] <jlebar> bz, I guess you're right, about debug symbols, yeah.
# [18:26] <@bz> I wonder....
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# [18:26] <@bz> could cleopatra make use of symbol servers for those?
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# [18:26] <@bz> do we have symbols for nightlies on there?
# [18:26] <@bz> because if I could get reliable per-instruction and per-source-line output...
# [18:27] <@bz> that would be really useful. ;)
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# [18:27] <jesup> bz++
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# [18:27] <froydnj> vladan is working on symbol-server stuff for the profiler...
# [18:27] <@bz> awesome
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# [18:28] <@bz> the context here, obviously is profiling something like the binding code
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# [18:28] <@bz> where it's all microoptimization and everything is inlined
# [18:28] <@bz> so per-function blame just tells you how screwed you are, not how to fix it.
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# [18:35] <jesup> edmorley: ping
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# [18:37] <edmorley> jesup: sorry just on a call, will follow up later
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# [18:39] <jesup> k
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# [18:45] <sawrubh> ehsan: I've https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=81ad018dc43a for 722990
# [18:46] <sawrubh> :)
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# [18:46] <@ehsan> sawrubh: ok then, I'll land it for you
# [18:46] <@ehsan> sawrubh: it's a good idea to add the link to your try pushes to the bugs you work on
# [18:46] <@ehsan> so that everybody can see them
# [18:47] <sawrubh> I linked it in the bug earlier itself
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# [18:47] <@ehsan> yeah, just saw :)
# [18:47] <sawrubh> will do in future too :)
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# [18:48] <@ehsan> thanks
# [18:48] <@ehsan> sawrubh: landed
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# [18:48] <sawrubh> thanks
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# [18:50] <sawrubh> ehsan: someone appreciates your speed of landing (read ttaubert ) ;)
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# [18:52] <ttaubert> yeah that was fast :)
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# [19:00] <gregglind> hg help... reset all modified files in a directory back to tip version
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# [19:01] <mkaply> Does anyone know how Firefox actually restarts itself? Does it close the original firefox.exe and start a new firefox.exe process (like during add-on install restart)
# [19:01] <@bz> gregglind: hg revert
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# [19:02] <@smaug> mkaply: bsmedberg probably knows
# [19:02] <gregglind> bz, thanks! 'hg revert .' was perfect
# [19:02] <@bz> ;)
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# [19:03] <NeilAway> mkaply: yes, that is how restarts work
# [19:04] <jhammel> NeilAway: via exec (if you happen to know)?
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# [19:07] <NeilAway> jhammel: platform-specific code
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# [19:08] <jhammel> fair nuff
# [19:08] <mkaply> NeilAway: how does an app do that? I can't find the code.
# [19:08] <NeilAway> jhammel: looks like execv on linux
# [19:09] <NeilAway> mkaply: well you'd have to check out LaunchChild in nsAppRunner.cpp
# [19:09] <mkaply> NeilAway: perfect. tx
# [19:09] <jhammel> NeilAway: makes sense...i've noticed i keep the pid between restart
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# [19:10] <gregglind> is there an in-content error console, or just hte xul one? (ie., it would be nice to about:errors :) )
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# [19:10] <gavin> gregglind: chrome://global/content/console.xul ? :)
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# [19:11] <gregglind> awesome gavin, thanks!
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# [19:12] <Mook_as> mkaply: for a more xpcom view, nsIAppStartup::quit(eRestart) ?
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# [19:12] <mkaply> Basically I'm trying to figure out if Firefox was started as a child process initially, how to keep it as a child process on the restart
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# [19:13] <Mook_as> mkaply: sounds more like you want process groups?
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# [19:16] <jlebar> smaug, ping?
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# [19:19] <@smaug> jlebar: in a meeting
# [19:19] <jlebar> smaug, Okay, I'll respond in the bug.
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# [19:28] <edmorley> jesup: free now :-)
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# [19:36] <jlebar> bz, ping?
# [19:37] <@bz> jlebar: ack
# [19:37] <jlebar> bz, Suppose I want to know when to check whether the back/forward buttons should be enabled.
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# [19:37] <jlebar> bz, It seems that desktop FF uses nsIWebProgressListener::OnLocationChange.
# [19:37] <jlebar> bz, But suppose I remove an iframe from a document.
# [19:38] <jlebar> bz, Couldn't that disable the back button?
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# [19:39] <sawrubh> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=cbba65c8d180 has an orange, is it coz of my patch ?
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# [19:40] <@bz> jlebar: erm
# [19:40] <@ehsan> no
# [19:40] <@bz> jlebar: probably
# [19:40] <@bz> jlebar: you really want smaug here....
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# [19:41] <@bz> jlebar: so wait
# [19:41] <jlebar> mm, okay. He's in a meeting, I'll find him in the bug.
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# [19:41] <@bz> jlebar: shouldn't you just use CanGoBack/CanGoForward?
# [19:41] <jlebar> bz, The question is, when should I query those?
# [19:41] <@bz> oh, I guess those would need to be polled or something
# [19:41] <@bz> right
# [19:41] <jlebar> exactly.
# [19:41] <@bz> yeah, we may just not have a good solution here
# [19:41] <jlebar> Okay.
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# [19:41] <@bz> which is dumb
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# [19:56] <jesup> edmorley: Hi. back to lunch in a sec, but the updated patchset is running in try and looking happy - all green so far except for one blue. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=03fa35c60bd1
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# [19:56] <edmorley> jesup: ok, I'll keep an eye :-)
# [19:56] <jesup> This one is circa 27MB (du .hg/patches)
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# [19:57] <jesup> Once we're good on that, I'd like to coordinate on relanding. The previous landing was looking green until we yanked it
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# [19:58] <jesup> We could do it once we're green, later tonight, or tomorrow morning
# [19:58] <mbrubeck> edmorley: It occurs to me that "Do you want to cancel? [cancel] [ok]" is a bit ambiguous. Darn JavaScript confirm() prompts.... :)
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# [19:59] <Oob> hey jimm are you there?
# [20:00] <jimm> Oob: yes
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# [20:01] <edmorley> mbrubeck: heh true; though not really sure what other way we could word it without it sounding silly
# [20:01] <mbrubeck> Yeah, I think it's okay for an internal tool.
# [20:01] <mbrubeck> We could rename "cancel" to "kill" or "exterminate" :)
# [20:01] <edmorley> abort
# [20:02] <edmorley> mbrubeck: "If you stop this build"
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# [20:03] <mbrubeck> Yeah, I'll make that wording change.
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# [20:03] <mbrubeck> I like "abort"
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# [20:03] <edmorley> mbrubeck: or "Interrupting non-clobber builds is unsafe. If you stop this build you must request a clobber (bug 658934). Continue?"
# [20:04] <Oob> jimm: can I pm you?
# [20:04] <jimm> sure
# [20:04] <mbrubeck> edmorley: nice
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# [20:07] <Waldo> mozilla::dom::prototypes::id::ID
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# [20:07] <@bz> Waldo: yeah, thanks C++ for its sucky handling of enums
# [20:07] <mark> Waldo: typedef to int?
# [20:08] <@bz> mark: its's an enum type
# [20:08] <@bz> Waldo: the ::prototypes::id part is .... eh
# [20:08] <@bz> Waldo: the fact that it can't be prototypes::ID is just C++ being dumb
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# [20:10] <padenot> khuey: would you mind a quick question about the build system ?
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# [20:11] <bjacob> bz: c++11 has good enums :)
# [20:11] <jcranmer> bz: C++11 fixes that with enum : int
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# [20:13] <jcranmer> bz: if we can bump our min gcc requirement to 4.4, we can actually use that
# [20:13] <jwatt> how do I rerun only the failed reftests again?
# [20:13] <@bz> jcranmer: how does enum:int help?
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# [20:13] <@bz> bjacob: so I hear. ;)
# [20:14] <@bz> jcranmer: I mean, it helps ensure the size class, but doesn't help woth the namespace issue
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# [20:14] <jcranmer> that's enum class
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# [20:15] <jcranmer> it's not clear when MSVC first supported scoping
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# [20:19] <jlebar> Do mochitests set some flag so that window.open always succeeds?
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# [20:19] <Ms2ger> jlebar, yes, IIRC
# [20:19] <jlebar> Ms2ger, Do you know what that is? I don't see us checking a flag in nsGlobalWindow::OpenJS.
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# [20:20] <Ms2ger> dom.popup_maximum?
# [20:20] <Ms2ger> dom.disable_open_during_load?
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# [20:21] <jlebar> Ms2ger, the second one, looks like. Thanks!
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# [20:22] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [20:22] <Ms2ger> For future reference, automation.py.in is the place to look
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# [20:24] <@khuey> padenot: what's up?
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# [20:25] <padenot> khuey: re. bug 567077, I'm wondering two things
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# [20:25] <padenot> khuey: where should I put the code for a component that does media sniffing ?
# [20:26] <padenot> khuey: do I really have to create a component to be able to register it in a category at startup, for it to be called by necko ?
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# [20:27] <@khuey> padenot: this isn't really a build question
# [20:27] <@khuey> padenot: and I don't know how our content sniffers work
# [20:27] <@khuey> padenot: try bsmedberg/biesi/bz?
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# [20:27] <padenot> khuey: well, I already have all the non build system pieces working
# [20:28] <@khuey> padenot: XPCOM component registration is not the build system
# [20:28] <padenot> it seemed pretty connected, but then again, I've little idea what I'm doing
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# [20:29] <biesi> padenot, yes.
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# [20:29] <padenot> biesi: yes to the second question ?
# [20:30] <biesi> padenot, to the "do I really have to create a component" question
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# [20:30] <padenot> biesi: okay. that means I have to have a nsMediaSnifferModule.cpp file in a build/ directory with all the macros ?
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# [20:31] <@khuey> no
# [20:31] <biesi> padenot, could be implemented in JavaScript
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# [20:31] <@khuey> you can just add your registration data to an existing module
# [20:31] <biesi> or what khuey said
# [20:31] <biesi> is this an extension or part of firefox?
# [20:32] <padenot> biesi: it is part of firefox, basically a sniffer for the media for the audio and video elements
# [20:32] <padenot> biesi: same thing we do for the images, but for the videos
# [20:32] <biesi> padenot, oh yeah, then add it to an existing build file
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# [20:32] <biesi> or even an existing sniffer
# [20:33] <padenot> biesi: I sticked it content/media/sniffer, but I have hard time making it build
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# [20:33] <Waldo> media picked a bad week to start sniffing with macros in its own file
# [20:34] <derf> Was there a good week?
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# [20:38] <GPHemsley> Are there any OS-specific differences in the preferences panel beyond its actual name?
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# [20:44] <cviecco> I am trying to use a static nsDataHashtableMT<nsCStringHashKey, nsCString> to store some data for pinning. However when terminating the process I get "mFreeCount: $SOMENUMBER -- LEAKED $LITTLE_NUMBER !!" where $LITTLE_NUMBER is the number of entries I have placed on the hash table x2. If I place a
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# [20:45] <cviecco> ...oops.. question in process... (please wait)
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# [20:46] <@khuey> cviecco: you can't use static hashtables
# [20:46] <@khuey> you have to new/free them at runtime
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# [20:46] <@khuey> cviecco: and you almost certainly don't want an nsDataHashtable_MT_
# [20:47] <cviecco> thank you.
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# [20:58] <jesup> edmorley: did you retrigger android opt #4? I did, and I see two pending 4's
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# [21:00] <jhford> is it possible to turn off the new tab history thing?
# [21:00] <dholbert> cviecco, (e.g. you could create the hashtable the first time you need it, and then listen for the XPCOM shutdown event and free it at that point)
# [21:00] <jlebar> jhford, Little grid at the top right.
# [21:01] <jhford> ahh! great, thanks
# [21:01] <@bz> jhford: turn off in what sense?
# [21:01] <jlebar> (Judging by how many people have been asking, I do not have a lot of hope our users will find this.)
# [21:01] <jhammel|lunch> hmmm, an [x] would make that more clear
# [21:01] <jhford> i don't want to see it, ever
# [21:01] <dholbert> jhford, (that'll hide it -- but the information is still all there)
# [21:01] <@bz> jhford: just not have it be in your face, or actually not on?
# [21:01] <jhford> i'd prefer not on, but hiding it is fine too
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# [21:01] <@bz> browser.newtab.url to about:blank in about:config
# [21:02] <jhford> bz: much appreciated
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# [21:02] <@bz> no problem
# [21:02] <cviecco> dholbert: thank you for the suggestion, but then it comes: how to I prevent the race condition of say two instances trying to create it?
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# [21:03] <Ms2ger> If you're unable to attend we'll
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> provide you with a recording of the session.We'll follow up shortly
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> with participation instructions.
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# [21:04] <jhammel|lunch> Ms2ger: they're cryptographically encoded messages
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# [21:04] <Ms2ger> Does look that way
# [21:05] <qDot> ROT \n
# [21:05] <WG9s> I just think it is odd to be restrictive in attendance on this especially since I had so mouch of an issue with getting my mozillians account working even after being vouched.
# [21:05] <dholbert> cviecco, race condition? is this an object that is accessed from multiple threads?
# [21:06] <dholbert> cviecco, if it is, you probably already need to be locking access to it somehow (and maybe that lock can be a static member or something; I'm not sure)
# [21:06] <WG9s> ONe of the things that gets me pissed off aobut the Mozilla outreach to new people projects. they make it so difficult to get included that it is really a negative.
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# [21:07] <cviecco> dholbert: thank you.
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# [21:17] <Ms2ger> Boo
# [21:18] <Ms2ger> What's wrong with doing a merge on New Year? These trains need to run on time, people!
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# [21:20] <@bz> mrbkap: ack
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# [21:26] <@bz> mrbkap: pong
# [21:26] <mrbkap> bz: I might be able to help with some of the reviewing in bug 653881, fwiw.
# [21:26] <devd> I am creating a nsAutoString strValue, followed by strValue.AssignLiteral("unknown"); then PR_LOG call with strValue.get(), but PR_LOG only shows the first character
# [21:26] <devd> anyone know whats happening ?
# [21:26] <Ms2ger> devd, yes
# [21:26] <@bz> mrbkap: good deal
# [21:26] <@bz> devd: yes
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> devd, nsAutoString is 16-bit, PR_LOG expects 8-bit
# [21:27] <qheaden> When was MozillaBuild last updated?
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> In particular, the second byte in strValue.get() is null
# [21:27] <@bz> mrbkap: which part, and how did you get roped into it? ;)
# [21:27] <devd> ohh so I should use one of the "convert UTF16 to ASCII functions " ?
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> You want NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8(strValue).get()
# [21:27] <@bz> devd: yes, or just use nsCAutoString to start with
# [21:27] <@bz> devd: if that makes sense in your situation
# [21:28] <devd> bz: ohh yeah
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> Or if you really want to log the literal string "unknown"... ;)
# [21:28] <mrbkap> bz: Well, I got roped into it as part of the web components stuff...
# [21:28] <mrbkap> bz: We want that patch in order to implement shadow DOM.
# [21:29] * jhammel|lunch wonders if that's more like shadow government or shadow banking
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# [21:30] <mrbkap> bz: as for which part, I'll take anything you're willing to let me review.
# [21:30] <@bz> mrbkap: ok
# [21:30] <@bz> well, so here's the deal
# [21:31] <@bz> I expect that the parts that suck to review are part 1 and part 3 and pat 4
# [21:31] <@bz> er, part 4
# [21:31] <mrbkap> Yeah.
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# [21:32] <Ms2ger> I thought 1 through 6 :)
# [21:32] <jesup> edmorley: looks like that #4 test is an android random orange - first retrigger just finished green, second still pending. Remarkedly green so far overall
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# [21:33] <@bz> want to give part 3 a once-over?
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# [21:34] <mrbkap> bz: Sure.
# [21:34] <@bz> and if you want to read part 1....
# [21:34] <@bz> I would be pretty happy
# [21:34] <mrbkap> bz: I suspect I'll have to read it anyway.
# [21:34] <@bz> I need to read it too
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# [21:34] <@bz> but it could use multiple sets of eyes
# [21:34] <@bz> I figure part 4 is all me
# [21:34] <@bz> and part 6 is easy
# [21:34] <@bz> and part 5 who knows
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# [21:35] * @bz hopes taken all together the rambling above made some sense
# [21:35] <mrbkap> Can get get hyatt to review that? :)
# [21:35] <@bz> mrbkap: haha
# [21:35] <@bz> mrbkap: the right answer might be "sicking"
# [21:35] <@bz> mrbkap: except we want it reviewed....
# [21:35] <mrbkap> part 5 looks relatively straightforward, actually.
# [21:35] <mrbkap> Right.
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# [21:36] <mrbkap> That's why I'm volunteering.
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# [21:36] <dougt> fabrice: thanks
# [21:36] <jcranmer> are we implementing xbl2? shadow dom? neither? both?
# [21:36] <jesup> philor: thanks
# [21:37] <fabrice> jcranmer: mrbkap will implement web components
# [21:37] <mrbkap> jcranmer: xbl2 is officially dead.
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# [21:38] <mrbkap> bz: So I'll start with part 1 and 3, time permitting.
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# [21:38] <philor> jesup: oh, -t none, no wonder it's so shockingly green :)
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# [21:42] <qheaden> For those who debug with gdb, do you use a visual frontend to it?
# [21:42] * mrbkap does not.
# [21:43] <biesi> I don't
# [21:43] <froydnj> my visual frontend is emacs
# [21:43] <jcranmer> visual frontend? wazzat?
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# [21:43] <qheaden> I tried using command line gdb, and I had the hardest time examining Mozilla string variables, even when I used the tips suggested on the Mozilla developers site.
# [21:43] <qheaden> I guess that's what I get for being a Visual Studio person. :P
# [21:44] <biesi> qheaden, mozilla is actually one of the easier strings to examine
# [21:45] <qheaden> How about examining PRUnichar strings?
# [21:45] <biesi> x/hs your_prunichar_pointer
# [21:45] <biesi> e.g. x/hs foo.mData
# [21:45] <froydnj> hoo boy, that's going to be a lot of changes to necko :(
# [21:45] <biesi> froydnj, what will be?
# [21:45] <qheaden> biesi: Thanks.
# [21:45] <@bz> mrbkap: 1 and 3 sounds good
# [21:46] <biesi> I should put that one on the wiki, I guess
# [21:46] <biesi> or you can!
# [21:46] <sfink> qheaden: I have heard rumors that the latest Eclipse works reasonably well with Gecko. There was a recent blog post about it.
# [21:46] <biesi> I only recently found out about that trick
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# [21:46] <qheaden> sfink: Hmm. I might have to try that out.
# [21:46] <froydnj> biesi: bug 715376
# [21:46] <qheaden> I'm comfortable with command line debugging, but that PRUnichar stuff really threw me for a loop.
# [21:46] <qheaden> The code I am working on now is filled with them. :P
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# [21:47] <sfink> Didn't a .gdbinit with a |pu| command recently get checked into the root?
# [21:47] <biesi> froydnj, mmm
# [21:47] <sfink> I use python extensions to have it all displayed automatically, so I'm not sure
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# [21:47] <froydnj> sfink: yes, the .gdbinit has a bit of help
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# [21:50] <Yoric> gavin: ping
# [21:51] <gavin> Yoric: pong
# [21:51] <Yoric> gavin: Do you have some time to discuss the aforementioned bug?
# [21:51] <Yoric> arf, afk, I will return in 10 minutes
# [21:51] <gavin> ok
# [21:52] <philor> bent: you should have addressed khuey's review comments, probably would have fixed all these things including the one I'm about to file
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# [21:52] <bent> philor, turns out khuey didn't actually look at what i pushed
# [21:52] <bent> (they were all addressed)
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# [21:53] <Ms2ger> philor, crash at js::gc::MarkKind in transitions-inline-already-wrapped-2.html, known?
# [21:53] <bent> philor, but yeah, our first-gen OOP tests aren't going to be perfect right away
# [21:53] <sfink> I call shenanigans. khuey doesn't give review comments. He either does an immediate r+ or says you're an idiot for wanting to do whatever it was.
# [21:53] <gregglind> Octal literals deprecated? suggest me a replacement for "foStream.init(file, 0x02 | 0x08 | 0x20, 0664, 0);"
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> gregglind, parseInt("0664", 8), duh
# [21:54] <jhammel> sfink: sounds like the khuey|away i know ;)
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# [21:54] <sfink> jhammel: you left out the "and love" part
# [21:54] <gregglind> thanks! Ms2ger
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# [21:54] <Ms2ger> gregglind, (but you're right, file permissions are the one genuine use case for octal literals)
# [21:55] <jhammel> sfink: i'm guessing he modified bugzilla tweaks so that he just has a radio button choice between the options
# [21:55] <Yoric> gavin: I'm back.
# [21:55] <jesup> philor: -t none since the code I'm landing is preffed off by default. So, since the new staging & try are looking good. When should I try relanding it? Once we're green enough/done? later tonight (after 10pm EDT - I can stay up until things are happy)? In the morning?
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# [21:58] <philor> jesup: later is always better than during the day for anything half-scary - you land something now, half the tests will get run five or ten pushes later
# [21:58] <gavin> Yoric: so as mentioned earlier, I'm not sure I see the value in tracking the initialization progress in "steps"
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# [21:59] <jesup> 10-11pm EDT-ish good then?
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# [21:59] <philor> sure
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# [21:59] <jesup> ok
# [21:59] <jesup> thanks
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# [22:00] <gregglind> style question: how worried should I be about "Warning: anon fn doesn't return a value" messages?
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# [22:00] <gregglind> and what value should these things return, if I mean it be irrelevant? null? false? true?
# [22:00] <gregglind> (stylistically)
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# [22:02] <Ms2ger> Never seen those
# [22:02] <Ms2ger> What I've seen is warnings for functions that only sometimes return a value
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# [22:04] <gregglind> ah, what is the accepted canonical value there?
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# [22:04] <philor> Ms2ger: js::gc::MarkKind feels like something I searched for without much success yesterday, but my mind starts to wander around js::gc::Mark
# [22:04] <gregglind> (I guess it will vary, won't it?)
# [22:04] <dholbert> bz, ping
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# [22:04] <Ms2ger> philor, so does mine :)
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# [22:04] <Ms2ger> gregglind, well, match the type the function already returns, I'd say
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# [22:06] <qheaden> biesi: That x/hs trick worked extremely well. Thanks again. :)
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# [22:08] <biesi> qheaden, np :) please update the wiki!
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# [22:09] <terrence> philor: js/src/gc/Marking.h and Marking.cpp
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# [22:10] <nical> Hi, i'm getting a crash on this address 0x5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5a, does anyone know what this address means?
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> firebot, 0x5a5a5a5a?
# [22:11] <firebot> Ms2ger: 0x5A5A5A5A = 1515870810, 013226455132, 0b1011010010110100101101001011010
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> firebot, 0xa5a5a5a5?
# [22:11] <firebot> Ms2ger: 0xA5A5A5A5 = 2779096485, 024551322645, 0b10100101101001011010010110100101
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> Pff
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> nical, it's some kind of freed memory
# [22:11] <padenot> nical: jemalloc uninitialized memory
# [22:11] <jcranmer> nical: you've got a function call to uninitialized memory
# [22:12] <nical> thanks
# [22:13] <gavin> word knows
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# [22:13] <gavin> <word> 0x5a5a5a5a is jemalloc allocated but unused memory (MALLOC_FILL) - or possibly dead land (deleted memory). same fill.
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# [22:16] <dholbert> gavin, who/what is word?
# [22:16] <gavin> an infobot on this network
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# [22:16] <Ms2ger> firebot knows too, it just doesn't want to tell
# [22:16] <firebot> Ms2ger: Sorry, I've no idea what 'knows too, it just doesn't want to tell' might be.
# [22:16] <dholbert> what differentiates word from firebot?
# [22:16] <gavin> firebot's info module was disabled, IIRC
# [22:17] <dholbert> ah
# [22:17] <Ms2ger> firebot, tell gavin about 0x5a5a5a5a
# [22:17] <firebot> Ms2ger: told gavin
# [22:17] <gavin> or at least its number conversion module beats it out
# [22:17] <Ms2ger> That, I guess
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# [22:19] <Mook_as> firebot: literal 0x5a5a5a5a
# [22:19] <firebot> Mook_as: 0x5a5a5a5a is 'jemalloc freed junk memory (cf. 0xa5a5a5a5)'.
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# [22:20] <qheaden> biesi: Will do.
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# [22:31] <Wes> firebot: literal 0xdadadada
# [22:31] <firebot> Wes: 0xdadadada is 'what 0xbabybaby calls his pop or the MSVC debug-alloc boundary-marker or PL_FREE_PATTERN (deallocated PLArena) or JS_FREE_PATTERN (deallocated JSArena - GC()d)'.
# [22:31] <Wes> coool
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# [22:32] <Wes> :(
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# [22:34] <armenzg> jimm: do you have time to look at this log? http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=MozillaTest/1340222710.1340222737.4455.gz&fulltext=1 this is a slave that got VS2012 RC install cleanly on the default path
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# [22:34] <jimm> armenzg: looking..
# [22:35] <armenzg> you're are awesome
# [22:35] <jimm> armenzg: hmm, that's the same error, seems to be related to finding that makepri tool. I can disable that check, we currently aren't using the tool.
# [22:36] <armenzg> jimm: you are not hitting this issue? that would be great
# [22:36] <armenzg> I can land on my own tree to avoid churcn
# [22:36] <jimm> armenzg: gimmie a sec
# [22:36] <armenzg> *churn
# [22:36] <armenzg> sure
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# [22:37] <kennyluck> hmm… does anyone know how nsNodeUtils::AttributeChanged calls nsPresShell::AttributeChanged? There seems to be a missing link, but I can't quite find it.
# [22:37] <jimm> armenzg: odd though, we should be spitting out an error when we don't find it.
# [22:38] <NeilAway> gregglind: use -1 which defaults to the right octal value ;-)
# [22:38] <jimm> armenzg: hmm, that might be something else. "configure: error: $(CC) test failed. You must have MS VC++ in your path to build."
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# [22:39] <qheaden> I've updated the wiki: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_Mozilla_with_gdb#section_7
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# [22:40] <jimm> armenzg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#489
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# [22:40] <jimm> armenzg: looks like it can't build executables.
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# [22:41] <armenzg> jimm: I was looking at that code but was not able to figure much out of it
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# [22:42] <jimm> it's trying to invoke the compiler and build a really simple program.
# [22:42] <armenzg> jimm: do you have something for me to try? or should I ask for IT to grant you access to the machine?
# [22:42] <jimm> armenzg: nothing I can do in the code for this, it a config error. might as well hook me up with access.
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# [22:43] <armenzg> jimm: OK I will get back to you
# [22:43] <armenzg> thanks a lot
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# [22:56] <armenzg> jimm: how could I try compiling a simple hello world?
# [22:56] <armenzg> cl.exe file ?
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# [22:58] <jimm> armenzg: create a tmp file like 'test.c', add a main function, and then from the command line 'cl test.c' should be about all you need
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# [23:00] <jimm> armenzg: echo "int main(void){return 0;}" > test.c; cl test.c
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# [23:01] <armenzg> jimm: that works :(
# [23:01] <jhammel> not `cl $(echo "int main(void){return 0;}")` ? :P
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# [23:01] <armenzg> :)
# [23:01] <jhammel> of course i guess if the file extension matters....that may not work ;)
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# [23:02] <jimm> armenzg: using the same env variables that get exported?
# [23:02] <Mook_as> that log says 'checking whether the C++ compiler (cl ) works... yes' though; is there a config.log available?
# [23:03] <armenzg> jimm: I will have to test that
# [23:03] <jimm> Mook_as: the build appears to be failing here - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#489
# [23:04] <jimm> maybe it's the include that fails.
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# [23:06] <gps> if I'm on Windows and have a path like "c:/Users/gps/" what is the best way to obtain an nsIFile? nsIFile.initWithPath() is throwing NS_ERROR_FILE_UNRECOGNIZED_PATH
# [23:06] <gps> ignore for the moment I should not be using forward slashes on Windows
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# [23:10] <jimm> armenzg: try compiling something more complex like this - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1668955
# [23:11] <armenzg> jimm: I have got access for you if you want to look at it
# [23:11] <armenzg> I was planning on emailing you all the info
# [23:11] <armenzg> I was doing that
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# [23:11] <jimm> ok
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# [23:18] <jimm> armenzg: haven't received anything via email, is the address and login info still on it's way?
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# [23:19] <armenzg> jimm: just sent
# [23:19] <jimm> sweet thanks
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# [23:20] <jimm> armenzg: am I supposed to telnet to that or should I use vnc?
# [23:20] <armenzg> jimm: let me know if you can at least connect
# [23:20] <armenzg> RDP
# [23:20] <armenzg> jimm: I might have given you the wrong port; maybe it is 3389
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# [23:32] <gregglind> so, how gross it is if I want to use jquery for testpilot admin pages? Is that going to cause annoyance in trunk?
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# [23:36] <@khuey> uh
# [23:36] <@khuey> does MDN not have a stylesheet anymore?
# [23:36] <@khuey> oh
# [23:36] <@khuey> &print
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# [23:36] <@khuey> stupid google sending me to the print version
# [23:37] <jhammel> haha
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# [23:37] <jhammel> google is clearly getting into the printing business
# [23:37] <_AtilA_> Hi!, TimerThread is used on Gecko to process timing like events (instanaces of nsTimerImpl like nsRefreshDriver), true ?
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# [23:38] <_AtilA_> I see that TimerThread has a collection of nsTimerImpl, that "Dispatches" when they're timeouts are reached..
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# [23:39] <_AtilA_> (on Run() method)
# [23:39] <armenzg> jimm: need anything from me before I head out? I think tomorrow will be a better day
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# [23:40] <jlebar> gregglind, chrome JS, or content JS?
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# [23:42] <jimm> armenzg: still trying to get connected. will keep playing with it.
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# [23:43] <jimm> armenzg_dinner: vnc password is rejected.
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# [23:44] <gregglind> jlebar, content (resource://..../debug.html). side note: how much do I need to worry about license block mismatched in patches.
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# [23:46] <jlebar> gregglind, Then it *might* be OK. I just know it's definitely /not/ OK to use jquery in chrome. Don't do that.
# [23:46] <jlebar> gregglind, WRT license blocks, I'm not sure what your question is.
# [23:46] <jlebar> gregglind, (jquery in chrome has led to all sorts of weird leaks and so on as jquery stores stuff in globals.)
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# [23:47] <armenzg_dinner> jimm: I can update the VNC password but I was hoping that you would use RDP (I know I gave you the wrong port)
# [23:48] <jimm> armenzg_dinner: regular Windows RDP?
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# [23:49] <jimm> will try that
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# [23:50] <armenzg_dinner> jimm: yep
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# [23:50] <armenzg_dinner> if it doesn't work I will try to figure VNC after dinner
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# [23:54] <hobophobe> How to get callgrind to function properly? If I exit at the profilemanager it dumps correctly, but if Firefox runs and I quit after, it never gives me data.
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# [23:55] <NeilAway> eek
# [23:56] <NeilAway> hmm, neither Ms2ger or darktrojan around
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# [23:56] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: consider the code nsCOMPtr<nsRefreshTimer> = do_QuerInterface(callback);
# [23:57] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: nsRefreshTimer isn't an interface, which is a bug, so what happens is that nsITimerCallback is used instead
# [23:57] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: ok?
# [23:57] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: sadly callback was already an nsITimerCallback...
# [23:57] <gregglind> jlebar, so the tp version in trunk has mostly "mpl 2, get it somewhere". TP in amo has mostly "pick your poison: Version: MPL 1.1/GPL 2.0/LGPL 2.1" and paritcular contributor names.
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# [23:58] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: even more sadly, I changed the nsCOMPtr to an nsCOMPtr<nsITimerCallback> in bug 317937 without noticing that callback was already an nsCOMPtr<nsITimerCallback> ...
# [23:58] <jlebar> gregglind, So you want to check in files to trunk with MPL 1.1 tri-license?
# [23:58] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: ugh
# [23:58] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: indeed...
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# [23:58] <jlebar> gregglind, I don't quite understand.
# [23:59] <gregglind> testpilot exists in trunk (1.1), I am trying to merge in 1.2.x. in trunk the licenses are:
# [23:59] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: so, why does does do_QUeryInterface() end up deciding it should try and QI to nsITimerCallback?
# [23:59] <jlebar> gregglind, I understand what the situation is, I guess I'm confused how you want to solve it.
# [23:59] <gregglind> Well, I have to do something
# [23:59] <tbsaunde> doesn't it just do NS_GET_IID(type)?
# [23:59] <jlebar> gregglind, Shouldn't you just use MPL2 in the code you check in to trunk?
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