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# Session Start: Wed Jul 18 00:00:00 2012
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <mconnor> kaie: your assumption is that we're tracking _you_
# [00:00] <kaie> you said your links are different, that means you're tracking me. you're tracking me, the recipient of this individual email, whether I have clicked links or not
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# [00:00] <kaie> and you're not giving me a chance to opt out, besides not clicking at all
# [00:00] <mconnor> kaie: was your email in English? did it have the same text?
# [00:00] <mconnor> :)
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# [00:01] <kaie> links for "new security features and developer tools": http://click.e.mozilla.org/?qs=07d0b83117e03d86f2cc6b72ae500f8501bdecb92a580675750407d4e6a2bf1d037d1d4631e00fa3
# [00:01] <espindola> rail, would turning off the qt build help?
# [00:02] <kaie> biesi, does my link match your link?
# [00:02] <mconnor> kaie: mine has the same prefix
# [00:02] <mconnor> http://click.e.mozilla.org/?qs=07d0b83117e03d86242dd982b0702e670721617c6a54440e281058d12002aa1a7cd921cd3d9378b1
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# [00:03] <biesi> kaie, which email is this?
# [00:03] <biesi> coz I can't find one with that text
# [00:03] <espindola> rail, or switching them to 64 bits
# [00:03] <kaie> biesi, "New security features, Running Gaia and more..."
# [00:03] <espindola> as those seem to be faster
# [00:03] <kaie> from today
# [00:03] <mconnor> kaie: "campaign source ID, marketing campaign ID, and a campaign referrer ID"
# [00:03] <biesi> kaie, funny, I never got that
# [00:03] <mconnor> dunno how those are segmented
# [00:03] <mconnor> biesi: are you on mozillians?
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# [00:03] <rail> espindola: don't think so, at least as a quick solution, we need to turn on those vms
# [00:03] <biesi> mconnor, yep
# [00:04] <mconnor> hmm
# [00:04] <mconnor> odd
# [00:04] <biesi> maybe it'll show up later
# [00:04] <@dolske> we use a URL without any tracking but send the email to 1 user are a time. :P
# [00:04] <mconnor> did you get the thunderbird email?
# [00:04] <biesi> I did get that one
# [00:04] <biesi> and several others
# [00:04] <@gavin> sending email to thousands of people often takes a while
# [00:04] <rail> espindola: those vms aren't bad actually, they were hammering the storage for some reason
# [00:04] <biesi> yeah, going to assume I'll get it later
# [00:04] <mconnor> kaie: I mean, nothing in our privacy policy says we send a per-user identifier in campaigns
# [00:04] <mconnor> if we did, that'd be against the PP, and we'd have a problem
# [00:05] <kaie> biesi, maybe greylisting. do you still have "Bringing social to Firefox" from july 6?
# [00:05] <kaie> oh wait no tracking in there
# [00:05] <kaie> "Weekend of Learning, Firefox on the street and more..." from july 3
# [00:05] <biesi> I do have that yeah
# [00:05] <biesi> o_O I do not have that
# [00:05] <kaie> well never mind. mconnor gave me his link
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# [00:06] <biesi> still, it is odd that I didn't get those emails
# [00:06] <kaie> mcomella, if all information were simply campain IDs, our links would be equal, but they aren't
# [00:06] <mconnor> kaie: so I think we have the same source id, but dunno how many ways they fork that
# [00:06] <sicking> bz, jduell: ping
# [00:06] <mconnor> kaie: there's three ids
# [00:06] <biesi> ah well, gotta go to a talk
# [00:06] <mbrubeck> I can't get Mozillians emails because of bug 774871. :/
# [00:07] <biesi> mbrubeck, oh that sucks
# [00:08] * @dolske wonders who else kaie will mis-autocomplete in this discussion. ;-)
# [00:08] <gaston> all your information belong to us^wmozilla^wexacttarget!!
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# [00:09] <espindola> decoder, new clang for you to try. I was able to reproduce the failure before and now it worked locally
# [00:09] <espindola> lets hope try is happy too
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# [00:11] <mark> mconner and kaie will have a high score this week
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# [00:17] <decoder> espindola: where's the manifest that I should try? :)
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# [00:18] <stephend> smaug: when you get a chance, can you take a look at bug 774892?
# [00:18] <benjamin> where is the chrome:// url resolved?
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# [00:18] <espindola> decoder, I updated the bug this time :-)
# [00:18] <espindola> but one of the ones in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f7ea93fb10a
# [00:18] <espindola> depending on the arch you want
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# [00:19] <espindola> decoder, and you will need to patch in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a430390ef8cd
# [00:19] <WeirdAl> benjamin: I think you want http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/chrome/src/nsChromeRegistry.cpp#305
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# [00:21] <benjamin> ah, I see; it registers itsself instead of being built into netwerk
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# [00:22] <decoder> espindola: thanks, trying! :)
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# [00:23] <@smaug> stephend|mtg: not in my todo list
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# [00:23] <@smaug> stephend|mtg: I'm not even CC'd or anything
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# [00:23] <espindola> decoder, 5a9fe44a2e20?
# [00:24] <stephend|mtg> smaug: yeah, sorry, it was just filed; any idea which component it should be in, too?
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# [00:24] <@smaug> Core: event handling
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# [00:24] <stephend|mtg> thx
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# [00:24] <@smaug> stephend|mtg: doesn't look like a bug to me though
# [00:24] <@smaug> if you're using testing mode, then you are
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# [00:25] <espindola> I guess not
# [00:25] <@smaug> if you're using browser normally, then you shouldn't use testing mode
# [00:25] <espindola> decoder, which rev?
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# [00:26] <decoder> espindola: not pushed yet, i can give you the try url when i pushed
# [00:26] <decoder> still patching
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# [00:27] <espindola> ok, thanks!
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# [00:32] <davehunt> smaug: the bug prevents Selenium from typing too..
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# [00:32] <jduell> jdm: ping
# [00:32] <davehunt> I can make that clear with an additional comment
# [00:33] <espindola> what is the procedure for backporting a patch to m-c?
# [00:33] <@smaug> davehunt: eh
# [00:33] <@smaug> davehunt: that is a bug, sure
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# [00:33] <@smaug> you missed the critical part in the bug report ;)
# [00:34] <davehunt> smaug: currently Selenium uses OS level interactions, so if a user can't do it, neither can Selenium
# [00:34] <decoder> espindola: pushed a8cec2d0e830 to try
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# [00:34] <espindola> decoder, thanks
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# [00:35] <davehunt> smaug: at least until there's a way to synthesize the user from within Firefox rather than using OS level interactions, but that's covered in a separate bug
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# [00:35] <mbrubeck> espindola: You can "hg export" the patch from inbound and then "hg qimport" it on central.
# [00:35] <@smaug> davehunt: how could I know anything about Selenium, and how it works internally...
# [00:35] <mbrubeck> There's also hg transplant
# [00:35] <espindola> mbrubeck, ah, the question was more like: do I need to ask for permission/review?
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# [00:36] <mbrubeck> no, review rules for m-c are the same as for inbound
# [00:36] <@smaug> davehunt: it is already possible to synthesize user input using the methods provided in DOMWindowUtils
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# [00:36] <mbrubeck> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules
# [00:36] <davehunt> smaug: It's been discussed on another bug, I'm pretty sure you've been involved in the discussion.
# [00:36] <@smaug> davehunt: could you debug this focus problem a bit
# [00:36] <espindola> cool, thanks
# [00:36] <davehunt> smaug: If I can, sure. What can I do?
# [00:36] <@smaug> davehunt: where is the focus after start? focusManager should be able to tell it
# [00:36] <davehunt> It's late here so I doubt I can be much use tonight
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# [00:37] <@smaug> davehunt: it is 1:30am here :)
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# [00:37] <davehunt> okay, so maybe I should rather say that I won't be awake much longer :)
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# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ae22909cef5a - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 774671 - Fix mismatched declarations. r=luke.
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# [00:41] <daniel> Hi, I'm looking for a modern tutorial or help or someting that shows how to use XPCOM in a firefox addon
# [00:41] <espindola> Loading failed: parsererror
# [00:41] <espindola> on tbpl :-(
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# [00:42] <daniel> Most everything being returned by google is either old, or refers to XPCOM c++
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# [00:43] <davehunt> smaug: focus appears to be in the text input for the Google search on the default home page
# [00:43] <daniel> I dug up some code that I wrote for firefox 3.x which basically loaded anything in components/foo.js, but it seems this method no longer works
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# [00:43] <@dolske> daniel: you probably want https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM and specifically https://developer.mozilla.org/en/How_to_Build_an_XPCOM_Component_in_Javascript
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# [00:44] <@smaug> davehunt: hmm, but perhaps the window isn't activated
# [00:44] <daniel> dolske: thanks...I've run into this page. As soon as I saw that C++ code though, I...kinda disregarded it
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# [00:44] <daniel> guess I'll read it further
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# [00:46] <davehunt> smaug: yeah, that would make some sense
# [00:47] <jlebar> Jesse, ping
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# [00:48] <daniel> dolske: ok, this is making sense. Thanks again
# [00:48] <Jesse> jlebar: yo
# [00:48] <jlebar> Jesse, So...new frecency
# [00:48] <@dolske> daniel: yay
# [00:48] <jlebar> Jesse, https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Jesse/NewFrecency
# [00:49] <Jesse> jlebar: yeah
# [00:49] <jlebar> Jesse, I'm confused about this conversion from score to "time 'till score == 1".
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# [00:49] <jlebar> Jesse, Suppose my URL's score, as a function of time is s(t) = e^(-at) + e^(-a(t - 30))
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# [00:50] <Jesse> jlebar: benfrancis was asking me about https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Jesse/NewFrecency too
# [00:50] <jlebar> Jesse, (Where |a| is lambda, but I don't want to type lambda)
# [00:50] <jlebar> Jesse, Yeah.
# [00:50] <jlebar> Jesse, In the case when my score is that function, how do you solve for s(t) = 1?
# [00:51] <Jesse> jlebar: does that mean you visited it twice, 30 seconds apart?
# [00:51] <jlebar> Jesse, I was thinking 30 days, but either way.
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# [00:55] <Jesse> jlebar: you can think of it as solving for the time of the single visit (likely in the future) that is equivalent to that pair of visits
# [00:56] <Jesse> jlebar: it's just t = (ln s) / a, right? where s is the current total score.
# [00:56] <jlebar> Jesse, Let me put this question a different way:
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# [00:57] <Jesse> isn't it amazing to be able to do math... for work?
# [00:58] <@dolske> as someone who has touched crypto code.... no. :)
# [00:59] <Jesse> how did you end up touching crypto code?
# [00:59] <njn> lasciviously, I presume
# [00:59] <jlebar> Jesse, A sum of exponentials is not itself exponential, right? Sum for i = 1..n over e^(x_i) has n degrees of freedom.
# [01:00] <jlebar> Jesse, So I don't see how one number can describe that sum.
# [01:00] <jlebar> Unless I'm missing some cute transformation...
# [01:00] <jhammel> acute transformation? ;)
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# [01:01] <jcranmer> biesi: I spent all day today doing nothing but trying to figure out how to get my modifications to build with clang on Try
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# [01:02] <Jesse> jlebar: but all those exponentials are decaying at the same rate
# [01:02] <jlebar> Oh, /me factors
# [01:02] <Jesse> jlebar: so you could factor out e^(-at) and end up with a sum of constants
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# [01:03] <jlebar> Jesse, Yeah. Okay; that was what I was missing.
# [01:03] <jlebar> Jesse, Thanks!
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# [01:08] <jcranmer> Waldo: ping
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# [01:08] <@dolske> s/if/is
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# [01:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1045701fee9 - Chris Jones - Bug 774139: Forward touch events across processes. r=felipe,smaug
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# [01:15] <njn> gavin: what is "monkey patching"?
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# [01:23] <mccr8> njn: monkey patching is when you alter the behavior of the program in a dynamic language while you are running it. I guess by setting the proto or whatever.
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# [01:24] <njn> mccr8: thanks
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# [01:24] <mccr8> np
# [01:24] <njn> mccr8: 'This process has also been described as "duck punching" '
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# [01:25] <mccr8> hah. yeah. I guess the etymology derives from "duck typing".
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# [01:25] <mccr8> ("if it quacks like a duck..."
# [01:25] <jhammel> punch it? ;)
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# [01:29] <taras> thanks
# [01:29] <darktrojan> unless he's still playing with his new desks
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# [01:30] <biesi> jcranmer, ok... why did you tell me that?
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# [01:35] <darktrojan> mbrubeck, do you understand what I'm trying to do in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774055 ? I'm struggling to explain :/
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# [01:35] <jcranmer> biesi: that's what prompted my build system complaint
# [01:35] <biesi> jcranmer, ah ok
# [01:35] <biesi> heh
# [01:35] <biesi> good luck :)
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# [02:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a5808967288 - Chris Jones - Bug 745148, part 9: Hook up the pieces and enable direct compositor. r=roc
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# [02:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/100fd0a81f9e - Chris Jones - Bug 745148, part 7: Create a RefLayer type to temporarily contain a foreign layer subtree during composition. r=BenWa sr=roc
# [02:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1d2d986d4ef - Chris Jones - Bug 774939: Disable OOP browser-element tests for native-fennec. irc-r=jlebar
# [02:10] <mbrubeck> darktrojan: Yeah, I'll see if I can explain it more.
# [02:11] <darktrojan> mbrubeck, phew
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# [02:11] <espindola> are linux 32 builds scheduling at all on try? :-(
# [02:11] <darktrojan> I actually wrote a scratchpad script to do 90% of what I wanted
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# [02:12] <hub> some files have "js2" as the Emacs mode.
# [02:12] <hub> where do I find it?
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# [02:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcba8ae674df - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 771378 (part 0) - Add ScopedFreePtr to Utility.h. r=jwalden.
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# [02:29] <darktrojan> thanks mbrubeck, I hope that helps
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# [02:30] <darktrojan> then I can stop using desktop fennec to test stuff :)
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# [02:56] <cjones> does anyone know why the android tests are falling over?
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# [02:57] <cjones> one run where almost no tests ran, next they all fell over, next they ran fine, then next two they all fell over
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# [03:03] <sheppy> Is Firefox on Windows 64-bit yet? I have no idea.
# [03:04] <mbrubeck> cjones: Looks like cpeterson broke native Fennec.... https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=android%20tegra
# [03:04] <dwarfcrank> sheppy: afaik there should be some 64-bit builds, just not really advertised
# [03:04] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, yes. I am backing out part of my patch now. sorry!
# [03:04] <cjones> mrbkap, don't think so, the next run was clean
# [03:04] <cjones> mbrubeck, ^^
# [03:04] <sheppy> dwarfcrank: OK, thanks
# [03:04] <mbrubeck> cjones: XUL Fennec is fine; maybe that's what's confusing you? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=android%20xul
# [03:05] <cjones> mbrubeck, oh, no test results :(
# [03:05] <cjones> mbrubeck, thanks, i missed that
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# [03:48] <Jesse> lies. hg log --stat -r 3c5f8eb756bf
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# [03:56] <decoder> espindola: got "C compiler cannot create executables"
# [03:56] <decoder> ill investigate tomorrow
# [03:56] <decoder> not sure how I could have broken that though
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# [03:56] <decoder> oh wait
# [03:56] <decoder> i see it
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# [03:57] <decoder> ERROR - failed to fetch 'clang.tar.bz2': <urlopen error [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution>
# [03:57] <decoder> buildbot failure
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# [04:00] <jlebar> Jesse, http://mathb.in/705
# [04:00] <jlebar> Jesse, I think this is equivalent to your formulation.
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# [04:03] <espindola> decoder, it failed to download the package
# [04:03] <jlebar> Jesse, http://mathb.in/706 <-- fewer mistakes
# [04:03] <espindola> with network problems :-(
# [04:03] <espindola> and the rescheduled one is taking ages
# [04:04] <espindola> as everything else on try
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# [04:06] <decoder> espindola: ill push again tomorrow :D
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# [04:07] <decoder> for now, im off to bed
# [04:07] <decoder> gnite :D
# [04:07] <espindola> decoder, I requested a rerun...
# [04:07] <espindola> thanks
# [04:07] <Jesse> jlebar: pretty much. i just introduced the "time at which score is 1" concept so the thing stored in the file isn't exponential in size.
# [04:08] <Jesse> but maybe that doesn't matter
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# [04:08] <jlebar> Jesse, Well, it would in fact be helpful if we didn't have to re-convert to the exponentials before adding in a new visit.
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# [04:08] <jlebar> Jesse, But given that we have to do that, I think it's a wash.
# [04:08] <jlebar> Jesse, I am concerned about running out of precision, though.
# [04:09] <Jesse> what's a wash?
# [04:09] <jlebar> Jesse, Not sure what to do about that, in either case.
# [04:09] <jlebar> Jesse, Whether you store the score in the log/time-domain, or in the exponential domain.
# [04:09] <Jesse> ok
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# [04:23] <Jesse> jlebar: another possible benefit of living in the log/time-domain is that you can use ints (probably 64-bit) instead of floats when you're sorting. which might be more of a bottleneck than adding visits.
# [04:25] <jlebar> Jesse, That could be true, although I'm not sure it'd actually be a bottleneck; I thought comparing doubles was pretty easy.
# [04:25] <jlebar> Jesse, My bigger concern is that we'll run out of space in the double's exponent.
# [04:25] <jlebar> Jesse, I'm doing some calculations now, but we "only" have 10^300.
# [04:26] <jlebar> Jesse, I would really like to be able to do this whole thing in log-space.
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# [04:27] <jlebar> Jesse, Alternatively, we could import a JS bignum library. :)
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# [04:34] <bonnie> jlebar, ping
# [04:35] <@ehsan> espindola: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733905#c37 :(
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# [04:36] <bonnie> jlebar, question: how do i register the class with the nsIComponentManager so that I may get an object via do_CreateInstance?
# [04:36] * Jesse wonders if we have an hg hook to prevent people from checking in symlinks
# [04:36] <Jesse> jlebar: sounds like you understand NewFrecency better than i do now :)
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# [04:37] <jlebar> Jesse, Yay math. :)
# [04:37] <jlebar> bonnie, I think you add it somewhere...let me see.
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# [04:37] <bonnie> jlebar, i had a look at nsIComponentManager and there is a RegisterModule and RegisterCIDEntry but lead to dead ends
# [04:37] <jlebar> bonnie, You want to do this statically, right? At compile-time?
# [04:37] <bonnie> yes i do
# [04:38] <jlebar> bonnie, Where does your class live in the tree?
# [04:38] <bonnie> intl/uconv/src
# [04:39] <bonnie> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/intl/uconv/idl/nsIScriptableUConv.idl
# [04:39] <bonnie> unfortunately the people who appear on the changesets are in diff time zones!
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# [04:40] <jlebar> bonnie, I think you need to add your class to intl/build/nsI18nModule.cpp
# [04:40] <jlebar> bonnie, Perhaps a few other places too, but that's a start.
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# [04:41] <bonnie> jlebar, i see. thanks i think i can navigate from here
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# [04:41] <jlebar> bonnie, np
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# [04:50] <Mossop> ehsan: Is there already a bug on file to remove the global private browsing API when necessary?
# [04:51] <@ehsan> Mossop: yes, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=PBnGen
# [04:51] <@ehsan> Mossop: we've been handling this piecemeal, by making the global PB service set the correct docshell flag
# [04:51] <@ehsan> Mossop: and making the privateWindow getter return the docshell flag
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# [04:52] <Mossop> Yeah, just didn't know if there was something specific to handle the removal of the global API that I could point the AMO team to
# [04:52] <@ehsan> Mossop: the dependencies represent the work that has been happening to move all of the call sites to the new API
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# [04:52] <@ehsan> Mossop: yeah I guess when bug PBnGen gets fixed, everything about the global PB service has been removed...
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# [04:53] <@ehsan> Mossop: does that make sense to you?
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# [04:53] <Mossop> It makes sense but maybe isn't great for tracking. But I'll copy jorge on that bug and he can chime in
# [04:54] <@ehsan> Mossop: ok, please let me know if you can think of a cleaner way to handle this
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# [04:55] <Mossop> It's a large project, there probably is no clean way ;)
# [04:55] <Mossop> At least not that suits everyone
# [04:55] <@ehsan> heh, yeah... :/
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# [05:23] <Sirisian> masayuki, Did you see my message from yesterday? I think it's 2 PM in japan at least.
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# [05:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1dfcb36d7c17 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 771976 - Part 3: Make sure that nsEditorSpellCheck's refcount doesn't go down prematurely; r=roc
# [05:30] <bjacob> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704240
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# [05:44] <Jesse> "You should look at all the open bugs you've reported (see the 'My Bugs' link at the bottom of every Bugzilla page) at least every two months and test whether they still exist."
# [05:44] <Jesse> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/What_to_do_and_what_not_to_do_in_Bugzilla
# [05:45] <Jesse> or, i could not spend half my time by repeatedly going through the 1486 open bugs i have reported
# [05:45] <nigelb> heh
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# [05:46] <Havvy> Jesse: You just need to write a test suite for the bugs you've found. ;)
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# [05:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1bab07e4390 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 740744: Asynchronous dbus events for bluetooth, Start/StopDiscovery and device event firing; r=bent sr=mrbkap
# [05:53] <dzbarsky> ehsan: want me to push those patches?
# [05:53] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: already on it! :)
# [05:53] <dzbarsky> ehsan: ah, one day, I will beat you to it
# [05:53] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: btw, haven't had a chance to introduce myself in person yet, will hopefully do so tomorrow :)
# [05:53] <@ehsan> hehe
# [05:53] <dzbarsky> ehsan: sounds good. I've seen you around but haven't actually said hi yet
# [05:54] <@ehsan> dzbarsky: yeah, let's fix that tomorrow! :)
# [05:54] <dzbarsky> ehsan: alright, sounds like a plan
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# [05:56] <firebot> virtual functions and no virtual dtor (more dom parts); r=bzbarsky
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# [05:56] <firebot> virtual functions and no virtual dtor (more content parts); r=bzbarsky
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# [05:56] <firebot> virtual functions and no virtual dtor (docshell parts); r=bzbarsky
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# [07:09] <sawrubh> ehsan: ping
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# [07:10] <sawrubh> jdm: feels funny to have been asked for review , See : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769435 ;)
# [07:10] <jdm> sawrubh: yep. I would turn that into a feedback on your part
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# [07:10] <sawrubh> I thought of suggesting to use regsiterCleanupFunction to him
# [07:10] <sawrubh> do you think that would be correct
# [07:11] <jdm> sawrubh: what's the cleanup that needs to occur?
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# [07:12] <sawrubh> he's a) clearing History b) setting gOpenLocationLastURL.value to "" c) switching off PB mode
# [07:12] <jdm> sawrubh: well, those are specific tests that are being run, not really cleanup that is being performed
# [07:13] <sawrubh> hmm
# [07:13] <sawrubh> heh, that's why I'm not apt for reviews ;) :P
# [07:13] <jdm> don't worry, the most you look at patches with a critical eye, the better you get at it :)
# [07:14] <jdm> s/most/more/
# [07:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58525c0d69f2 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 774597. Avoid accessing MediaStreamGraphImpl members after the graph object may have been cleaned up by the main thread. r=jesup
# [07:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c59466c2042b - Bas Schouten - Bug 772726. Part 4: Fix SampleTextTexturesPS(Masked) shaders to premultiply TextColor. r=jrmuizel
# [07:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3ee29cb995c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 772726. Part 2: When BasicLayers is compositing directly to an Azure DrawTarget, Transform3D should handle the destination not having a CurrentSurface.
# [07:15] <firebot> r=mattwoodrow
# [07:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41f4bdd4b6bd - Dave Hylands - Bug 772734 - Fixes LaunchApp hang when launching. r=cjones
# [07:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af578c454d1e - Dave Hylands - Bug 773414 - Add PR_DuplicateEnvironment function. r=cjones
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# [08:26] <njn> is it possible to get the current JSRuntime out of thin air?
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# [08:29] <hsivonen> anyone familiar with fieldset/legend layout awake? bz? roc? dbaron?
# [08:29] <hsivonen> if you'd like to object to adding more complication to fieldset/legend, now would be the time to do it: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-200-objection-poll/
# [08:29] <hsivonen> (poll closes 23:59 on the 19th Boston time)
# [08:33] <Callek> hsivonen: suggest you send an e-mail around to layout/form peers ;-)
# [08:34] <Callek> so those +masayuki I suspect
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# [08:56] <hsivonen> Callek: ok
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# [09:04] <sawrubh> ehsan: I've done a blog post on conversion of xpcshell to mochitest :) http://sawrubh.tumblr.com/post/27468780076/converting-xpcshell-tests-to-mochitests
# [09:05] <KWierso> Urg, every time I use sync between my VM's firefox and my main Firefox profile, my NoScript whitelist gets reset :(
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# [09:05] <sawrubh> and also one on the review process and my opinions on it http://sawrubh.tumblr.com/post/27468791866/opinions-on-reviews ;)
# [09:07] <hsivonen> it would be interesting to see what percentage of mentions of Firefox for mobile adhere to our official guide of what that thing should be called
# [09:08] <hsivonen> my guess is that it's way less than 50%
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# [09:27] <@bz> hsivonen: ping
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# [09:30] <@smaug> bz: thanks for the reviews
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# [09:31] <@bz> smaug: no problem
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# [09:31] <@bz> smaug: thanks for the patches!
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# [09:36] <hsivonen> bz: pong
# [09:36] <hsivonen> bz: did you notice the HTML WG poll about <legend>? any layout-motivated objections?
# [09:36] <@bz> yes
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# [09:37] <@bz> so I'm a little confused
# [09:37] <@bz> The first change proposal seems to basically say "Do what Gecko and Trident do"
# [09:37] <@bz> but then goes off the rails with <ilegend> for some reason
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# [09:38] <@bz> The second change proposal seems to basically be "stick to the status quo, don't actually define the rendering behavior when <legend> is not a child of the fieldset, even though the parser lets you do that"
# [09:38] <@bz> Also seems broken at first glance
# [09:38] <@bz> Can I object to both? ;)
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# [09:39] <hsivonen> bz: you can object to both
# [09:39] * @bz works on that
# [09:39] <@bz> Do you understand what the story is with ilegend?
# [09:39] <@bz> What is it supposed to help?
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# [09:41] <hsivonen> bz: as far as I can tell, it just reacting to Hixie's arguments by "let's mint another element then"
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# [09:41] * @bz can't tell what hixie's arguments are
# [09:42] <@bz> So at some point the spec allowed <legend> in cases that are not just <fieldset>
# [09:42] <@bz> is that no longer the case?
# [09:42] <@bz> (e.g. I thought <figure> used it?)
# [09:42] <@bz> I guess that became figcaption?
# [09:43] <hsivonen> figure doesn't use <legend> due to some legacy parsing issue, IIRC
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# [09:43] <hsivonen> <legend> isn't special in the HTML5 parser
# [09:43] <hsivonen> maybe it was in legacy Gecko or legacy IE
# [09:43] <@bz> legacy IE more likely
# [09:43] <@bz> ok
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# [09:46] <hsivonen> yeah, <legend> parsing is completely broken in IE8 without a <fieldset> ancestor
# [09:46] <@bz> alright
# [09:47] <@bz> thanks
# [09:47] <@bz> ancestor, or parent?
# [09:47] <hsivonen> also, <fieldset>foo<legend> is bogus in layout in IE8
# [09:47] <hsivonen> bz: ancestor, apparently
# [09:47] <@bz> So is it fair to claim that <legend> is parsed just like <div>?
# [09:47] <@bz> hsivonen: interesting.
# [09:47] <hsivonen> <fieldset>foo<div><legend> looks saner than <fieldset>foo<legend> in IE8, also
# [09:47] <@bz> hsivonen: so if you have <fieldset><div><legend>, what happens in IE8?
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# [09:47] <@bz> heh
# [09:48] <hsivonen> bz: the legend is child of div, the div is child of fieldset and legend gets special color but isn't placed on top of the fieldset border
# [09:49] <@bz> hsivonen: ok, gotcha
# [09:49] <@bz> hsivonen: thanks
# [09:49] <@bz> do you know whether the spec defines anything about rendering a legend whose parent is not a fieldset?
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# [09:50] <hsivonen> however, in <fieldset>foo<legend>bar, the DOM is sane but in layout "bar" is hoisted above the fieldset
# [09:50] <@bz> yes
# [09:50] <@bz> everyone does that
# [09:50] <hsivonen> oh
# [09:50] <@bz> oh, I see what you mean
# [09:50] <@bz> yeah, that's just broken
# [09:50] <@bz> well, wait
# [09:50] <@bz> bar inside the legend?
# [09:50] <@bz> seems like it should become the legend
# [09:50] <@bz> anywy
# [09:50] <hsivonen> bz: I don't know what the spec says about rendering
# [09:50] * @bz is not too worried about IE8
# [09:50] <hsivonen> ooops.
# [09:51] <hsivonen> "foo" is hoisted
# [09:51] <hsivonen> "bar" is rendered on top of the border
# [09:51] <hsivonen> sorry
# [09:51] <@bz> ah
# [09:51] <@bz> yeah, that's slightly funky
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# [09:55] <hsivonen> I think I want to object to ilegend, but I'm not really that opposed to loosening the placement of <legend> as long as there's a <fieldset> ancestor
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# [09:57] <@bz> so here's the thing
# [09:57] <@bz> If I understand the first change proposal right
# [09:57] <@bz> it's that <legend> be allowed anywhere
# [09:57] <@bz> and that it just behave like a <div> in cases when it's not the child of a <fieldset>
# [09:57] <@bz> unless I'm totally misunderstanding it?
# [09:57] <@bz> (It doesn't help that Marat is not very good at explaining his thoughts)
# [09:58] <@bz> Either I'm not understanding the first change proposal
# [09:58] <@bz> or the author of the second change proposal did not understand it
# [09:59] <@bz> or the author of the second change proposal is arguing against a strawman
# [09:59] <hsivonen> bz: I think it's silent on behavior without a <fieldset> ancestor
# [09:59] * @bz can't tell which
# [09:59] <@bz> "silent" means "nothing special"
# [09:59] <@bz> it does specify display:block
# [09:59] <@bz> so....
# [09:59] <@bz> just like <div>
# [09:59] <hsivonen> bz: to me, it looks like the author of the second proposal assumed the legacy effects to be worse than they are
# [09:59] <hsivonen> bz: right
# [09:59] <@bz> to me it looks like the author of the second proposal doesn't want to fix his code. ;)
# [10:00] <hsivonen> :-)
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# [10:01] * @bz wonders whether he should cite the bug in which we made legends do basically what Marat wants
# [10:01] <@bz> So apparently in our old parser <legend> not inside <fieldset> would cause <fieldset> to be created
# [10:01] <@bz> or something
# [10:02] <@bz> anyway
# [10:03] <hsivonen> IE10 still has the layout weirdness for a text node child of fielset before legend
# [10:03] <@bz> ok
# [10:03] <@bz> that's just a bug, fine
# [10:03] <@bz> and in any case, that setup is _already_ conforming, no?
# [10:04] <hsivonen> I thought it wasn't
# [10:04] <@bz> Ah, interesting.
# [10:04] <@bz> so it's not conforming to not be the first child
# [10:04] <@bz> but of course it can happen
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# [10:05] <@bz> and the rendering is defined to be as if it were the first child
# [10:05] <@bz> ok, then
# [10:05] <hsivonen> it's currently not conforming to have a non-whitespace text node before the legend node
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# [10:08] <hsivonen> oh. cool. releases.mozilla.org has stopped carrying 3.6.x
# [10:08] <@bz> really?
# [10:08] <@bz> nice
# [10:08] <@bz> ftp.mozilla.org for you!
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# [10:13] <hsivonen> ftp.mozilla.org isn't responding to me via ftp://
# [10:13] <hsivonen> down for everyone or just for my three levels of NAT?
# [10:14] <hsivonen> maybe I have a legacy release on my Mac
# [10:14] <@bz> hmm
# [10:14] <@bz> worksforme
# [10:14] <@bz> you want me to grab a build for you and put it somewhere?
# [10:14] <@bz> if so, which one?
# [10:14] * @bz submits objections, sees them not show up on the results page yet...
# [10:15] <@bz> Ah, here we go
# [10:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/955bb9f6169c - Andrew Hurle - Bug 774495 - Get rid of ac-emphasize-alt in awesomebar. r=Unfocused
# [10:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce577fd16506 - Andrew Hurle - Bug 775010 - Preprocess autocomplete.css to fix some visual bugs on XP. r=MattN
# [10:15] <@bz> hsivonen: objected
# [10:15] <TheOne> hey guys, is it possible to somehow store which element of an textbox autocomplete popup the use selected?
# [10:15] <TheOne> s/use/user
# [10:16] <TheOne> it seems there is a "selectedIndex" property for the autocomplete panel tree. but it also seems the panel is already gone when the "ontextentered" method is called
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# [10:17] <hsivonen> bz: thanks for objecting. as for the build, my Mac already had a suitable old build
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# [10:18] <@bz> hsivonen: fwiw, I think either tab or I totally don't understand the first change proposal
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# [10:19] <@bz> hsivonen: bringing us back to quality of the writing. :(
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# [10:20] <hsivonen> or tab sees the pre-Firefox 4 parser behavior as a show-stopper
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# [10:21] <@bz> well
# [10:21] <@bz> "the extra work of adjusting the parsing and display of existing <legend> elements" ?
# [10:22] <@bz> "the possibility that existing content is (incorrectly) using <legend> in invalid locations, and the suggested change would alter the presentation of that element."
# [10:22] <@bz> those both seem off
# [10:22] <@bz> unless I totally misunderstood the change proposal
# [10:22] <hsivonen> yeah
# [10:22] <@bz> anyway
# [10:22] <@bz> I should sleep
# [10:22] <@bz> it's 4am
# [10:22] <hsivonen> nn
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# [10:24] <hsivonen> :-( Sync seems slower these days than in the Firefox 4 times
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# [10:34] <NeilAway> sawrubh: http://quickmeme.com/meme/3q4yy7/ ;-)
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# [10:35] <NeilAway> sawrubh: why all the text-align: center; in your blog though?
# [10:36] <sawrubh> NeilAway: it's the theme I used, it had that look :)
# [10:36] <darktrojan> glob, wtf? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1707124
# [10:36] <NeilAway> sawrubh: well, centred lists don't look too good :-P
# [10:37] <sawrubh> NeilAway: :P
# [10:37] * sawrubh looks for a better theme
# [10:37] * sawrubh was never expecting visitors on his blog before today
# [10:37] <darktrojan> NO ONE EXPECTS the visitors on their blog
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# [10:41] <glob> darktrojan, what's the problem?
# [10:41] <NeilAway> TheOne: no, because the user can go on to edit the string anyway
# [10:41] <darktrojan> apart from the email being confusing, the change in status happened 2 months ago
# [10:42] <TheOne> NeilAway: my problem is that my autocomplete panel might have more than one entry with the same label. But they are not actually the same. So I thought I would write the identifier of the items in the comment column and hide it
# [10:43] <TheOne> NeilAway: and then retrieving it again when the user selected an entry
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# [10:43] <NeilAway> TheOne: and what do you do if the user just types that label without completing it?
# [10:43] <NeilAway> (just playing devil's advocate)
# [10:44] <NeilAway> TheOne: autocomplete isn't designed as a replacement for a menulist, it's designed as a replacement for an *editable* menulist. Stop thinking of it as a menulist :-P
# [10:44] <TheOne> NeilAway: so there is no way to retrieve more than just the label?
# [10:45] <NeilAway> TheOne: no
# [10:45] <TheOne> NeilAway: ok, thanks for clarification
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# [11:36] <edmorley> any idea who the maintainers of the Qt builds are?
# [11:37] <edmorley> they are about to be hidden, due to bustage on inbound
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# [11:38] <edmorley> the qt builds aren't explicitly listed on https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Supported_build_configurations :-(
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# [11:45] <nthomas|away> romaxa asked for them originally
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# [11:46] <edmorley> nthomas|away: ah yes that name rings a bell, thank you
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# [11:47] <nthomas|away> why would that break on a clang change ?
# [11:47] <nthomas|away> ah, it was a later changeset
# [11:48] <nthomas|away> see also bug 772419
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# [11:50] <capella> ms2ger: Do I need to flag roc for review for Bug 769998 - Make nsIWidget::IsVisible return bool ?
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> Sounds good
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# [11:51] <capella> thanks
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# [11:52] <edmorley> nthomas|away: thank you, yeah had just seen that :-)
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# [12:06] <darktrojan> qfold ftw
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> darktrojan--
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# [12:07] <nigelb> git ftw.
# [12:08] <nigelb> although I'm stuck porting changing into a different branch for review :/
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# [12:08] <nigelb> but that's because my changes are *really* extensive.
# [12:10] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: wat? qfold is cool.
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# [12:11] <hsivonen> how is one supposed to start a 32-bit Linux build on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04?
# [12:11] <hsivonen> just trying to run the binary doesn't work anymore
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# [12:12] <hsivonen> also, what's the deal with offering only 32-bit Linux builds of desktop b2g?
# [12:13] <hsivonen> isn't it more likely that people who are interested and are running Linux are running 64-bit Linux?
# [12:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10a4ccffa7a4 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 774306 - Protect access to mFavicons behind a getter (r=margaret)
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# [12:13] <tbsaunde> hsivonen: I'd guess you don't have a 32 bit library installed that you need
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# [12:15] <tbsaunde> hsivonen: doesn't an error get printed to the terminal when you try and run it?
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# [12:17] <hsivonen> tbsaunde: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1707171
# [12:18] <hsivonen> oh. looks like my second argument for run-mozilla.sh was wrong
# [12:18] <hsivonen> but correncting the argument doesn't help
# [12:18] <hsivonen> this stuff used to just work :-(
# [12:19] <tbsaunde> hsivonen: do you have a 32 bit version of libdbus-glib around?
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# [12:24] <hsivonen> tbsaunde: looks like I don't
# [12:24] <hsivonen> isn't Ubuntu 12.04 supposed to autoinstall 32-bit libs?
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# [12:26] <tbsaunde> hsivonen: no idea, but I'd sugest installing it
# [12:27] <hsivonen> yeah, installing it moves the failure to the next missing 32-bit lib
# [12:27] <hsivonen> hooray for hunting these one by one
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# [12:33] <decoder> espindola: build successful! :)
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# [12:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c119555cd89a - Tim Taubert - Bug 765628 - Bookmarklets on the new tab page are able to run privileged javascript; r=gavin
# [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2149897d05a0 - Heather Arthur - Bug 712469 - Inspector Rule View selectors can be more visually scannable; r=dcamp
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# [13:19] <NeilAway> capella: hmm, I wonder whether anyone has filed a bug on nsIWidget::IsEnabled
# [13:20] <Ms2ger> I haven't
# [13:20] <capella> Not sure, ms2ger original requester .... looks like an enhancement vs bug fix
# [13:20] <capella> oh enabled
# [13:20] <capella> yah i saw that function also
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# [13:24] <capella> ms2ger: want me to open a new bug ? or add it on to bug 769998?
# [13:24] <Ms2ger> I'm filing a new bug
# [13:24] <capella> k !
# [13:24] <Ms2ger> bug 775041
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# [13:25] <Ms2ger> capella, and thanks a lot for taking over
# [13:25] <capella> yah - looking around @ new areas in the code
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# [13:44] <darktrojan> wat, firefox just picked a page out of my recent history and went back there
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# [13:47] <lduros> darktrojan: hey, that happens to me too1
# [13:47] <lduros> :-)
# [13:48] <lduros> it seems when I press a key, but I Haven't figured out what
# [13:48] <lduros> very odd
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# [13:48] <darktrojan> I know shift+scrolling goes forward and back, but this page was a long way back
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# [13:54] <lduros> odd
# [13:54] <lduros> i dunno
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# [13:55] <nemo> hm. did the new download manager land in stable?
# [13:56] <nemo> 'cause I got this feedback from a friend
# [13:56] <nemo> "17.07.12 23:24 Why has the new firefox gotten so much shittier? Now it can only do one thing at a time. If you save a page or a picture, it locks up every Firefox window until the download is done. If you print a file, it locks every browser window until the print job is queued."
# [13:56] <nemo> don't know if that would explain printing though. hum
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# [13:58] <gcp> i think that issue has been there for a while
# [13:58] <gcp> at least I've heard previous complaints about it
# [13:58] <gcp> (print window)
# [13:59] <gcp> downloads locking everything up -> very annoying indeed
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# [14:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a8efeb81c64 - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Factor out single-level checked unwrapping into a helper function. r=mrbkap
# [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9582ecb8db2b - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Reimplement LookupMethod. r=mrbkap
# [14:01] <nemo> gcp: well, I don't know about in stable, but the new download manager has a lovely corrupting files bug...
# [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3069c8d4a5ef - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Re-implement moz_bug_r_a4 trickery. r=mrbkap
# [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90ff0bdfdc2c - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Tests. r=mrbkap
# [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/500ccb7a5dd9 - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Add WrapperFactory and XrayWrapper machinery to allow same-compartment Xray wrapping. r=mrbkap
# [14:02] <nemo> gcp: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772394 - I've been able to reproduce that on Windows, Linux and OSX. Browser close while downloading = corrupt files. Particularly annoying since you are most likely to close while downloading if the file was enormous and a big waste of bandwidth.
# [14:03] <nemo> but. no lockups for me. I shall endeavour to learn more of his system
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# [14:19] <protz> do we have an api for copying text to the clipboard? I believe sites like github are using flash just for that very purpose, do we have a bug on file? I figured out that would be something we'd want to do for b2g
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# [14:20] <Ms2ger> protz, jrmuizel is working on it
# [14:20] <protz> coolbeans!
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# [14:34] <hsivonen> gotta love having a patch that introduces a random orange in an XSLT crashtest
# [14:34] <hsivonen> (yes, readyState still)
# [14:34] <hsivonen> and one that doesn't reproduce locally
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# [14:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/120e3d9d86f1 - Brian Hackett - Use distinct types and scripts for generic inner wrapper functions, bug 638794. r=jandem
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# [14:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a11f086069a - Brian Hackett - Treat known booleans like integers during bitops, bug 774812. r=jandem
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# [15:02] <Ms2ger> michal++
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# [15:03] <protz> paul: can I ask you a quick question on the css flexible box model?
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# [15:03] <Ms2ger> protz, ask away, others may be able to answer too
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# [15:04] <protz> I'm trying to put two boxes side by side, and one of them is too wide for the screen, to it needs to wrap
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> cjones++
# [15:04] <protz> s/to it/so it/
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# [15:04] <protz> however, the contents of the rightmost box just overflow on the right, instead of wrapping
# [15:05] <protz> oh! I just forgot to put a box-flex property on it
# [15:05] <Ms2ger> Sounds like flexbox :)
# [15:05] <protz> sorry for the noise, it works now, I just thought that I didn't need to specify a flex property in that case
# [15:06] <Ms2ger> No worries
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> It's not like this channel is busy this time of day :)
# [15:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa818c680cb2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 774245 - Remove unnecessary memset. r=mccr8
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# [15:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9c45b6a8dfb - Kyle Huey - Back out 353b4785836a which was landed even after the module owner explicitly said not to. r=me
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# [15:13] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, fuck off
# [15:14] <espindola> decoder, cool!
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# [15:18] <decoder> Ms2ger: i dont think insulting people is going to get anywhere near what we want to achieve
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# [15:19] <Ms2ger> decoder, I don't think people refusing to do their job is either
# [15:19] <bhearsum> ehsan, bbondy, _rs: i threw my two cents regarding mac signing into https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774618 - it seems like the primary problem there is unrelated to signing, but let me know if i can be of more help
# [15:19] <decoder> Ms2ger: being on vacation != refusing to do the job
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# [15:20] <bbondy> ehsan: k thanks, I'm trying to reproduce now, I can't reproduce on Windows
# [15:20] <@bsmedberg> glandium: what's up with the sed 's/$(AB_CD)/localized/' in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=643262&action=edit ?
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# [15:21] <glandium> bsmedberg: the chrome manifest in dist/bin/webapprt has "manifest chrome/en-US.manifest"
# [15:21] <@bsmedberg> oh
# [15:21] <@bsmedberg> blech
# [15:21] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: I don't think your characterization of vacation is appropriate
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# [15:22] <glandium> bsmedberg: this whole thing is a mess, it's great time that it's entirely rewritten as a single script that just does the right thing directly
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# [15:22] <@bsmedberg> glandium: true
# [15:23] <@bsmedberg> glandium: also about the hunk in toolkit/locales/l10n.mk
# [15:23] <@bsmedberg> glandium: why isn't that in a browser/ file? Just because we don't have one?
# [15:23] <glandium> bsmedberg: because we haven't moved to browser/ yet
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# [15:23] * @bsmedberg doesn't understand
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# [15:23] <@bsmedberg> moved what?
# [15:24] <glandium> bsmedberg: browser chrome is still mixed with XRE chrome
# [15:24] <@bsmedberg> glandium: sorry, I mean
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# [15:24] <glandium> bsmedberg: ah, why a change in l10n.mk instead of browser/locales/Makefile.in?
# [15:24] <@bsmedberg> glandium: this patch snippet it in toolkit/, but I would expect it to be in a Firefox-specific... yes
# [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a0746d9a89f - Jonathan Watt - Bug 774133 - Make nsDisplayTransform take account of zooming for SVG transforms. r=roc.
# [15:25] <hsivonen> do we have a stated policy for non-Free components in B2G?
# [15:26] <hsivonen> GPU and radio drivers will be non-Free, right?
# [15:26] <glandium> bsmedberg: one problem is to find the right place to do it ; and a separate concern is that other apps (think seamonkey) will hit the same problem and it's just better to do it in one place
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# [15:26] <@bsmedberg> hrm
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# [15:27] <@bsmedberg> hsivonen: we are treating them as system libraries from the phone manufacturer, I'm prettu sure
# [15:27] <@bsmedberg> glandium: ok, that still feels weird
# [15:27] <@bsmedberg> but I'll go with it for now
# [15:27] <bhearsum> bsmedberg: does that mean we never have to deal with them in terms of doing b2g builds?
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# [15:27] <bhearsum> +releases
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# [15:28] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum: I don't know. I wouldn't *expect* you to ever deal with them
# [15:28] <bhearsum> fair enough
# [15:28] <glandium> bsmedberg: i think in the end we should have a manifest for toolkit, one for browser, one for webapprt, and one for metro. and one script that handles them all
# [15:28] <@bsmedberg> but there's a lot I don't know about how that works
# [15:28] <bhearsum> that's true of everyone here i think :)
# [15:28] <khuey> Ms2ger: dude, bent told you specifically not to turn those tests off
# [15:28] <glandium> and in the darkness, bind them
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# [15:29] <hsivonen> bsmedberg: ok. It would be interesting to see some docs that explain the boundaries
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, then he should do something about them
# [15:29] <khuey> Ms2ger: he's on vacation, he's going to fix them when he gets back
# [15:29] <@bsmedberg> hsivonen: ask in dev.b2g ?
# [15:29] <hsivonen> bsmedberg: ok
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> khuey, then they can be disabled until then
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# [15:31] <rail> espindola: are we switching to clang on linux too?
# [15:31] <hsivonen> I sure hope the driver situation won't prevent Mozilla from pushing kernel updates to B2G phones without hardware vendor veto
# [15:32] <glandium> hsivonen: haha
# [15:32] <glandium> hsivonen: we can't even build a useful kernel for the otoro device
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# [15:32] <hsivonen> but for now, I'm mostly interested in arguing that bundling Open Font License 1.1 fonts is a much smaller departure from our policies than proprietary drivers
# [15:32] <hsivonen> glandium: :-(
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# [15:33] <espindola> rail, not on this push at least
# [15:33] <glandium> hsivonen: missing driver for the lcd, the touchscreen, and most probably many radio things (3g, wifi, bt)
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# [15:33] <glandium> i got a kernel to boot, though, with adb access. but without lcd and touchscreen...
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# [15:34] <glandium> i'm exploring a different path to be able to add some features to my kernel for profiling...
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# [15:34] <hsivonen> glandium: I'm a bit surprised that a GPL kernel isn't rebuildable with proprietary stuff in dynamically-loaded blobs
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# [15:34] <espindola> these phone used to actually be two devices, a pda running linux
# [15:35] <espindola> and a rtos system that was actually the phone
# [15:35] <rail> espindola: the patch touches build/unix/mozconfig.linux, won't it change the compiler for linux?
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# [15:35] <espindola> rail, gosh, forgot to remove that one. Good catch, will fix i a second
# [15:35] <glandium> hsivonen: in practice the kernel we currently have is proprietary. the manufacturer doesn't want to hand the source, but they do hand the source for their released devices
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# [15:38] <protz> funny, I can see a youtube video playing under the black portions of another tab
# [15:38] <protz> graphics driver bug :(
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# [15:44] <Ms2ger> Mostly because actually, DOMClassInfo calls it
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# [15:49] <sawrubh> ehsan: Good morning
# [15:49] <sawrubh> ehsan: jdm waiting for you guys' commen on 722995
# [15:49] <jdm> heh
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# [15:52] <jdm> sawrubh: and definitely see what happens if you add the pref cleanup to every test
# [15:52] <Ms2ger> Dammit, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b7f3236f127b
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# [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0df827058bf5 - Josh Aas - Bug 772682: Make Mac OS X 10.6 the minimum required OS version. r=gavin
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# [16:00] <josh> FYI: I just pushed a patch disabling Firefox 17 on Mac OS X 10.5, ping me if you notice issues.
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# [16:02] <protz> I have inline svg in my document, I'm applying -moz-transform: scale(0.5) to the svg, but the outer <div> containing the svg doesn't shrink at all, it looks like the svg still occupies the same space, even though it's resized
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# [16:02] <protz> any ideas?
# [16:02] <roc> that's how CSS transforms work
# [16:02] <roc> they don't affect layout
# [16:02] <roc> only rendering
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# [16:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37898d7d1189 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 774775 (XRayWrapper does not handle new bindings constants) - refactor code. r=bz.
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# [16:25] <mattwoodrow> Ms2ger: hi
# [16:25] <jwir3> haha: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486918#c173
# [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ea6a7fd7cdd - Ekanan Ketunuti - Bug 774620 - Unprefix -moz-animation properties and @-moz-keyframes rules in browser/. r=dao
# [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8267d94c2d67 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 767133 - Add slide-in animation for arrow panels. r=Enn,Mossop
# [16:26] <Ms2ger> mattwoodrow, I get unused variable warnings around http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/tip/layout/base/nsDisplayList.cpp#l3297
# [16:27] <mattwoodrow> Ms2ger: Hrm, not sure what to do about those
# [16:27] <mattwoodrow> We need to check the returned parameter
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# [16:27] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [16:27] <mattwoodrow> do you know if we have any helpers to prevent this sort of warning?
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> mozilla::unused, maybe?
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# [16:32] <mattwoodrow> Ms2ger: actually, just removing the vars should be fine
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# [16:35] <Ms2ger> mattwoodrow, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1707330 r?
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# [16:35] <mattwoodrow> Ms2ger: r+
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# [16:36] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [16:36] <mattwoodrow> thanks for fixing it!
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# [16:36] <Ms2ger> Np, it broke my build :)
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# [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e038e82f416 - Elika Etemad - Bug 774835: Refactor nsHTMLReflowState::ApplyMinMaxConstraints to separate behavior of width and height. [r=roc]
# [16:38] <mattwoodrow> Building layout with warnings as errors? Bold
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# [16:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d440311c727c - Ms2ger - Bug 539356 - Followup: Fix unused variable warnings; r=mattwoodrow over IRC.
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# [16:39] <Ms2ger> Well, most of them are "maybe used uninitialized", and we turned off -Werror for those
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# [16:44] <Mavericks> hello all, please take few minutes of your precious time to voice your opinion or contribute here - http://www.ideastorm.com/Idea2SessionIdea?v=1340022352117&id=a017000000hIx3bAAC
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger> Yay, 176 emails sent for a comment in bug 539356
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# [16:51] <cpeterson> Android tests on m-i are unhappy. I backed out my busting patches, but Android_opt mochitest 3 is still crashing. I think the regression range is https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=a1d3f276e0ac&tochange=6aa560d1645d
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# [16:51] <edmorley> cpeterson: android m3 is one of the worst at best
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# [16:53] <cpeterson> the test seems to be aborting in nsACString_internal::MutatePrep()
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# [16:54] <edmorley> cpeterson: which failure cases? the bug 775053 (test_ipc.html) ones? I tried doing a bunch of retriggers to compensate for missing test runs due to coalescing.... but they got coalesced :-(
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# [16:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8ca855356d1 - Dale Harvey - Bug 709759 - Add stop() to mozbrowser API. r=jlebar
# [16:56] <cpeterson> edmorley, tbpl says test_ipc.html is timing out, but then it also says PROCESS-CRASH and has stack traces pointing to mozalloc_abort()
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# [16:57] <edmorley> cpeterson: yeah I filed the bug for that new case today, but I couldn't see where the actual abort was at
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# [16:58] <cpeterson> edmorley, this is the brief log for the first crashing cset (but the Android tests were burning or not running for a few hours prior): https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=13621110&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error3
# [16:59] <edmorley> cpeterson: oh yeah sorry I must have misread the stack, I see where you got nsACString_internal::MutatePrep() from
# [16:59] <edmorley> I'll add it to the bug
# [17:00] <edmorley> and try some more retriggers, to see if we can get the regression cset backed out
# [17:00] <cpeterson> thanks!
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# [17:06] <jcranmer> froydnj: I'd make a new NS_DECL_ISUPPORTS_THREADSAFE macro
# [17:07] <khuey> new macros
# [17:07] <khuey> r-
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# [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62ed10be002b - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 772050 - Remove 'classInfo' from AppsService and SettingsService. r=gwagner
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# [17:10] <ZER0> is there any way to obtain from XPCOM the equivalent of `navigator.mimeTypes`, without a `window` reference?
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# [17:11] <khuey> not really
# [17:11] <khuey> but you can get a window reference
# [17:11] <khuey> and then get the things
# [17:11] <ZER0> khuey, yeah I know, but I'd like to avoid it
# [17:11] <ZER0> :)
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# [17:12] <ZER0> If it's not possible it's okay, I want just to know if there is another way
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# [17:12] <jdm> ZER0: it doesn't look like it, according to how GetMimeTypes is implemented
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# [17:13] <ZER0> jdm, yeah, I saw in mxr as well, so I wondered if there was another method :)
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# [17:14] <ZER0> khuey, jdm, I have to say that I use `navigator.mimeTypes` to get the supported image's extensions: so if there is another way to do that rather than `navigator.mimeTypes` is welcome as well
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# [17:14] <ZER0> s/extensions/suffixes
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# [17:27] <espindola> ehsan, morning
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# [17:27] <@ehsan> espindola: hello
# [17:27] <@ehsan> espindola: is this the exciting day that we've been dreaming for a long time? :)
# [17:27] <espindola> ehsan, I think so, waiting fro your r+
# [17:28] <@ehsan> great, I'll look at the patch right now
# [17:28] <imphil> What is the easiest way to pass a message from another process to a xulrunner process on Windows? Like that Firefox opens a new tab if I call firefox.exe with an URL -- where is that code? I didn't find it
# [17:28] <espindola> try was slow, so we even had the m-i -> m-c merge
# [17:28] <espindola> my idea is check it in on try
# [17:28] <espindola> wait for one build
# [17:28] <espindola> and check it in to m-c
# [17:29] <@ehsan> espindola: r+ and sounds good!
# [17:29] <@ehsan> espindola: let's hope that we have a free mac builder :)
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# [17:31] <NeilAway> dao++
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# [17:32] <@ehsan> espindola: do you wanna land that on central as well?
# [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48127b02a061 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 733905 - switch OS X builds to clang. r=ehsan.
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# [17:33] <espindola> ehsan, just wait for one build to make sure
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# [17:33] <@ehsan> espindola: ah, so you meant inbound not try above :)
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# [17:33] <@ehsan> espindola: makes perfect sense
# [17:33] <espindola> yes, check tooltool and all
# [17:34] <@ehsan> espindola: and again, thank you soooo much for all of your work here :)
# [17:34] <espindola> thanks for the help!
# [17:34] <sawrubh> ehsan: what is going to happen today, that's exciting :) ?
# [17:34] <espindola> sawrubh, just did
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# [17:34] <@ehsan> sawrubh: we're switching OS X builds to clang
# [17:34] <espindola> check m-i :-)
# [17:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae3955b96bcd - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 766647 - Do a better job of coalescing the low-res screenshots. r=blassey
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# [17:37] <catlee> espindola: why disable ccache?
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# [17:38] <espindola> catlee, clang uses macro context for warnings
# [17:39] <espindola> catlee, we can uses an env variable to make it run the compiler with the original input
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# [17:39] <espindola> catlee, but clang without ccache is faster that gcc with it
# [17:39] <espindola> so we can try that as a separate step
# [17:40] <espindola> catlee, clang also has a -rewrite-includes which I also want to try...
# [17:42] <espindola> catlee, btw, how to you guys normally benchmark ccache x non-cache builds?
# [17:42] <espindola> that is probably my next work item once m-c is also switched
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# [17:46] <cpeterson> espindola, Android m3 is crashing on m-c. Your JS_FRIEND_API cset _seems_ to be the first (and subsequently 100%) failing push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=ae22909cef5a
# [17:47] <espindola> cpeterson, seems extremely unlikely
# [17:47] <espindola> that just marks declarations as hidden
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# [17:48] <espindola> the definitions already are
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# [17:48] <mbrubeck> There's one green 3 on that push
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# [17:48] <cpeterson> espindola, yeah, it did seem unlikely. And the prior cset was a huge merge from m-i.
# [17:48] <gaston> espindola: so now this builds against libc++ or libstdc++ ?
# [17:49] <espindola> gaston, libstdc++
# [17:49] <espindola> libc++ is only available on 10.7 up I think
# [17:49] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, oh yes, I see that green 3 now (buried in orange :)
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# [17:49] <espindola> we can only consider when we drop support for 10.6
# [17:49] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?jobname=android.tegra.*mochitest-3 does not seem much oranger now than it has been in the past
# [17:49] <mbrubeck> (sadly)
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# [17:50] <cpeterson> mbrubeck, oh. :\
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# [17:52] <edmorley> mbrubeck: that failure type is new admitedly
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# [17:55] <rail> espindola: did you clobber m-i? it looks like only macosx32 debug build picked it...
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# [17:56] <espindola> rail, I didn't realized it was needed, since the mozconfig changed
# [17:56] <espindola> I assumed that was basically a clobber
# [17:56] <edmorley> I can do that now
# [17:56] <espindola> rail, so the opt build was done with gcc?
# [17:56] <espindola> rail, I will clobber it
# [17:57] <rail> espindola: it looks like that...
# [17:57] <espindola> rail, search for "compiler version" in the log
# [17:57] <edmorley> espindola: m-c done
# [17:57] <espindola> edmorley, m-i is the problem...
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# [17:57] <edmorley> espindola: and now inbound
# [17:57] <espindola> ah, cool
# [17:58] <espindola> someone, please check in something :-)
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# [17:58] <edmorley> espindola: we can just retigger :-)
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# [18:00] <rail> espindola: https://raw.github.com/gist/3137077/f74eb464357e7455853f5293c32ea68c70a37a48/gistfile1.txt
# [18:00] <@ehsan> espindola: I can check in something!
# [18:00] <romaxa> edmorley: ping
# [18:01] <espindola> rail, gah, it didn't run configure!
# [18:01] <froydnj> where's a comment typo fix commit when you need one?
# [18:01] <espindola> we really need another build system
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# [18:01] <espindola> froydnj, that works
# [18:01] <@ehsan> espindola: should I push?
# [18:01] <rail> we can just retrigger the build to match the real change and real build result
# [18:02] <espindola> ehsan, rail up to you
# [18:02] <@ehsan> no!
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# [18:02] <@ehsan> rail: I'll push something :)
# [18:02] <espindola> I would guess a push would be better
# [18:02] <rail> ehsan: ok :)
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# [18:03] <@ehsan> rail: espindola: done
# [18:03] <rail> \o/
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# [18:04] <firebot> Check-in:
# [18:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82e6dc758859 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 758992 - Make the classes which use the XPCOM nsISupports implementation macros final, to avoid the warning about deleting using a pointer to a base class with
# [18:04] <firebot> virtual functions and no virtual dtor (more xpcom parts); blanket-r=bzbarsky
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# [18:09] <edmorley> romaxa: hi :-)
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# [18:11] <edmorley> romaxa: commented in-bug if that helps? (about to go on a call)
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# [18:15] <espindola> ehsan, btw, now that I think of it, it would be nice to have a branch with gcc 4.2 and frame pointers
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# [18:15] <espindola> if we can't have it, that is fine
# [18:15] <espindola> we can just use the profiling branch
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# [18:16] <espindola> and do a "manual" build when we want to compare performance
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# [18:16] <@ehsan> espindola: I can take over birch
# [18:16] <espindola> ehsan, awesome
# [18:16] <@ehsan> cool, so I'll do that
# [18:17] <@ehsan> hmm but wait
# [18:17] <@ehsan> espindola: you want builds with gcc 4.2 *and* frame pointers?
# [18:17] <@ehsan> or without frame pointers?
# [18:18] <espindola> ehsan, what we have on m-c
# [18:18] <espindola> so with frame pointers, right?
# [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0be368bb172 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 773100 - Invalidate the frame bounds instead of deleting the frame property. r=roc
# [18:18] <@ehsan> espindola: no we don't.. we're using clang :)
# [18:18] <espindola> ehsan, heh
# [18:18] <wlach> kats: lmandel: btw, I'll be doing a short presentation this aft around 1pm on Eideticker if you're interested (presumably in the big room in toronto)
# [18:19] <espindola> so, it would be nice to have a branch whose only difference to m-c
# [18:19] <espindola> was that it used gcc-4.2
# [18:19] <kats> wlach: i am. hopefully the mobile meeting at 12:30 is quick
# [18:19] <@ehsan> espindola: ok, gotcha!
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# [18:20] <capella> dang ... shouldnt have run those OSX tests on TRY
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# [18:21] <espindola> khuey, would you mind a quick look at 775134?
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# [18:22] <jcranmer> wow, CSS transitions are so much nicer
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# [18:23] <bz_sleep> than?
# [18:23] <firebot> Check-in:
# [18:23] <khuey> espindola: didn't I tell you to just land these?
# [18:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d58b34ab81fe - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 758992 - Make the classes which use the XPCOM nsISupports implementation macros final, to avoid the warning about deleting using a pointer to a base class with
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# [18:23] <firebot> virtual functions and no virtual dtor (more toolkit parts); blanket-r=bzbarsky
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# [18:23] <khuey> espindola: I'm really not interested in spending time on semicolons
# [18:23] <espindola> khuey, so I really couldn't find any general approval for that
# [18:24] <@ehsan> espindola: blanket-r=me :)
# [18:24] <espindola> can I just write r=khuey on all of them?
# [18:24] <@ehsan> espindola: if someone complains, please direct them my way
# [18:24] <espindola> ok, that works
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# [18:24] <jcranmer> bz_sleep: JS-based animations
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# [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e06225418c28 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 775134 - Remove extra ; r=ehsan.
# [18:27] <khuey> espindola: please write r=someone on them
# [18:27] <khuey> me, ehsan, don't care
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# [18:28] <espindola> I only care that I am not the one bending the rules. What is and is not obvious at mozilla is truly not obvious to me.
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# [18:28] <@ehsan> BenWa: :(
# [18:28] <@ehsan> BenWa: you broke all of the things
# [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdef000532ce - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset f0be368bb172 (bug 773100) for broken builds across the board
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# [18:28] <@ehsan> BenWa: and I backed you out!
# [18:28] <BenWa> ehsan: I was told the patch was ready :(
# [18:28] <BenWa> sorry
# [18:28] <@ehsan> espindola: there are no rules being bent :)
# [18:29] <@ehsan> BenWa: please comment on the bug?
# [18:29] <@ehsan> ty
# [18:29] <BenWa> np
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# [18:29] <espindola> ehsan, where is documented these kind of patches can go in without code review?
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# [18:29] <wlach> kats: lmandel: ok, eideticker preso rescheduled to tomorrow at 1 instead. so no need to rush through mobile meetings
# [18:29] <kats> wlach: cool thanks
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# [18:34] <sawrubh> ehsan: Dao is not around, can you see if https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774660 is ready to land ?
# [18:35] <sawrubh> ehsan, jdm|f00d I've uploaded all the updated patches in 722995 , can you check and tell me if the changes I made in Part 6 are correct. Thanks
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# [18:37] <jcranmer> were the transition-* properties unprefixed in nightlies or something?
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# [18:41] <gps> espindola: congratulations!
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# [18:41] <espindola> gps, thanks!
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# [18:43] <ebassi> jcranmer: they should be; unprefixing transition and animation landed in mozilla-central last week
# [18:44] <Ms2ger> espindola, all patches where nobody will complain if you land them without code review, can land without code review :)
# [18:44] <@ehsan> espindola: nowhere... but it's fine
# [18:44] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, can you check if ehsan' build 82e6dc758859 is correctly using clang?
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# [18:44] <catlee-buildduty> espindola: on inbound?
# [18:44] <@ehsan> sawrubh: yeah, do you want me to push it for you?
# [18:44] <@ehsan> catlee-buildduty: yeah
# [18:44] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, yes
# [18:44] <Ms2ger> espindola, but please don't land with r=actual person if that person hasn't actually reviewed the patch
# [18:45] <jcranmer> ebassi: ah
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# [18:46] <catlee-buildduty> /builds/slave/m-in-osx64/build/clang/bin/clang -arch i386 -o plarena.o -c -fvisibility=hidden -Wall -fno-common -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk -pthread -O2 -g -fPIC -UDEBUG -DMOZILLA_CLIENT=1 -DNDEBUG=1 -DHAVE_VISIBILITY_HIDDEN_ATTRIBUTE=1 -DHAVE_VISIBILITY_PRAGMA=1 -DXP_UNIX=1 -DDARWIN=1 -DHAVE_BSD_FLOCK=1 -DHAVE_SOCKLEN_T=1 -DXP_MACOSX=1 -DHAVE_LCHOWN=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_DLADDR=1 -DFORCE_PR_LOG -D_PR_PT
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# [18:46] <@ehsan> espindola: actually, for this kind of stuff, I wouldn't bother filing a bug at all!
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# [18:46] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, yeah, we've been unprefixing everything for 16
# [18:47] <sawrubh> ehsan: If Dao wouldn't mind, then yes, please land it
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# [18:47] <espindola> ehsan, my problem is figuring out what the "this kind of stuff'" is at mozilla
# [18:47] <glandium> marcoz: ping
# [18:47] <espindola> I have had problems in the past getting reviews for patch I would have considered "this kind of suff" :-(
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# [18:48] <@ehsan> espindola: trivial fixes... we don't have exact criteria there. basically what I do is I ask myself is it worth anyone's time to look at this patch? if the answer is absolutely not, I'll just pushit
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# [18:48] <Ms2ger> espindola, depends on who the patch author is, and on whose code it's touching, and on the phase of the moon :)
# [18:48] <@ehsan> it also depends on how trusted the author is
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# [18:49] <@ehsan> if it's someone's first commit, I'd want to review their patch even if they're removing a semicolon
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# [18:49] <espindola> Ms2ger, yes, I think I just need another decade or two to develop a neural network that decides if I need code review or not :-)
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# [18:50] <catlee-buildduty> espindola, ehsan: yeah, it is using clang
# [18:50] <Ms2ger> sawrubh, whitelist for the L3 access, and blacklist inside that list, I guess
# [18:50] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, :-)
# [18:50] <@ehsan> sawrubh: both :)
# [18:50] <@ehsan> catlee-buildduty: hurray!
# [18:50] <@ehsan> sawrubh: pushed
# [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61b822ad93a1 - Saurabh Anand - Bug 774660 - openPreferences should consistently not return a window object; r=dao
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# [18:51] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: which code?
# [18:51] <Ms2ger> A branch in nsScriptNameSpaceManager::RegisterDefineDOMInterface
# [18:52] <Ms2ger> And you did :)
# [18:53] <jdm> sawrubh: darn, I was hoping the weak reference stuff would solve the problem
# [18:53] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm not sure what you're talking about!
# [18:53] <sawrubh> jdm: me too :(
# [18:54] * sawrubh now relies on Ehsan's divine intervention
# [18:54] <@ehsan> sawrubh: ?
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you removed the old bindings for the perf stuff, remember? :)
# [18:54] <sawrubh> ehsan: Bug 722995
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# [18:54] <sawrubh> :)
# [18:54] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: ah... is this about the static ctor stuff?
# [18:55] <@ehsan> sawrubh: I don't believe in divine interventions ;)
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# [18:55] <@ehsan> sawrubh: I'm not sure what's going on there without debugging...
# [18:55] <smontagu> ehsan: they happen all the time
# [18:55] <jhammel> is that where jesus shows up and says you have a drinking problem?
# [18:55] <Ms2ger> ehsan, no, there was just some code that only seems to be hit for interfaces without old bindings
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# [18:56] <marcoz> glandium: pong!
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# [18:56] <@ehsan> smontagu: heh, yeah maybe I've seen that happen in the editor code some of the times :)
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# [18:57] <glandium> marcoz: can you copy/paste your logcat output when your fennec build fails to start on cm9?
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# [18:57] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: hmm, and is that code causing problems?
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# [18:58] <Ms2ger> ehsan, no, I was just confused
# [18:58] <wesj> anyone know how resizable text areas work? Where would I need to hook in to make them work with touch events?
# [18:58] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: phew :)
# [18:58] <@ehsan> wesj: they add a resizer element to the textarea. do those elements work with touch events?
# [18:58] * @ehsan guesses not
# [18:58] * sawrubh will get down to debugging now, and hopes this will be the last time for 722995
# [18:58] <wesj> not yet
# [18:58] * sawrubh wants it to land badly!! now
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# [18:59] <wesj> ehsan: are resizers a special frame?
# [18:59] <@ehsan> sawrubh: I know...
# [18:59] <@ehsan> wesj: yes, nsResizerFrame
# [18:59] <@ehsan> iirc
# [18:59] <wesj> ahh. thanks!
# [18:59] <marcoz> glandium: mfinkle had a link to a pastebin where he had copied the relevant info. But I don't find the link any more right now. :( I can send you the log file if you like. Per mail.
# [18:59] <wesj> i bet we can just add some touch event cases here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-beta/source/layout/xul/base/src/nsResizerFrame.cpp#65 and be fine....
# [19:00] <glandium> marcoz: yes please
# [19:00] <@ehsan> wesj: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/xul/base/src/nsResizerFrame.cpp#52
# [19:00] <@ehsan> hehe, yeah
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# [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d494d578acb5 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 770629 (Divs aren't rendered when using CSS 3D transforms) regression test for DLBI. r=mattwoodrow.
# [19:02] <marcoz> glandium: Done.
# [19:02] <glandium> marcoz: thanks
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# [19:04] <glandium> marcoz: okay, so the core problem is this: "/data/app/org.mozilla.fennec_marcozehe-1.apk!/libmozsqlite3.so: Text relocations are not supported
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# [19:10] <marcoz> glandium: Will do!
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# [19:11] <espindola> :-)
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# [19:15] <glandium> marcoz: unfortunately, the zip only contains the symbolic link, not the actual file :(
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# [19:17] <edmorley> ehsan: thanks for backing matt out (was on my 1:1 call)
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# [19:17] <@ehsan> np
# [19:17] <@ehsan> espindola: so can we land on m-c now as well?
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# [19:18] <espindola> ehsan, I think so
# [19:18] <espindola> ehsan, I will have to run at 2:30, should be back at 3:30
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# [19:18] <espindola> do you want me to land now or when I am back?
# [19:18] <marcoz> glandium: Crap, let me try that again.
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# [19:19] <@ehsan> espindola: please land now :)
# [19:19] <@ehsan> ty
# [19:19] <espindola> ehsan, ok
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# [19:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5f68f2de649 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 774072 - Close Favicons on background thread. r=mfinkle
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# [19:22] <@ehsan> NeilAway: it invokes the preprocessor to only rewrite #include directives and nothing else
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# [19:22] <@ehsan> NeilAway: so for example macros will not be expanded, etc
# [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9b876829ed32 - Rafael Ávila de Espíndola - Bug 733905 - switch OS X builds to clang. r=ehsan.
# [19:23] <@ehsan> NeilAway: but your code would no longer rely on #include dirs and such
# [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/97a2af80999b - Matt Brubeck - Bug 771989 - Don't hide the soft keyboard if another view is active [r=cpeterson, a=lsblakk]
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# [19:23] <espindola> ehsan, done
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# [19:23] <@ehsan> espindola: thanks! so for birch, I should just revert the CC and CXX variables, right?
# [19:24] <espindola> ehsan, correct
# [19:24] <@ehsan> espindola: good, I'll push a gcc version to birch in a couple of mins then
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# [19:25] <espindola> ehsan, awesome
# [19:25] <@ehsan> edmorley: can you please keep an eye on the birch branch in the next 6 weeks?
# [19:25] <@ehsan> edmorley: if something breaks builds/tests there but not on m-c/m-i, it should get backed out
# [19:26] <glandium> bsmedberg: iirc romaxa takes care of linux qt
# [19:26] <edmorley> ehsan: I suspect I've missed this in scrollback, but at a guess: birch is what is being repurposed for os x gcc right?
# [19:26] <marcoz> glandium: Here you go for real this time. :)
# [19:27] <@ehsan> espindola: I set up the merge cron job as well
# [19:27] <@ehsan> edmorley: correct
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# [19:27] <edmorley> ehsan: sure; can do :-)
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# [19:28] <@ehsan> edmorley: ty
# [19:28] <@ehsan> edmorley: I've also filed a bug to disable non-mac builds and tests there...
# [19:28] <edmorley> ehsan: 30 min cron job from m-c like profiling?
# [19:28] <glandium> marcoz: what version of the ndk are you using?
# [19:28] <@ehsan> edmorley: yeah
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# [19:29] <glandium> marcoz: and, what does the "checking whether the CRT objects have text relocations" test in configure say?
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# [19:30] <edmorley> ehsan: sounds good, thank you
# [19:30] <marcoz> glandium: The one that was offered to me on June 28, Android-NDK-R8.
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# [19:31] <edmorley> ehsan, espindola: I prsume you're doing this anyway, but a dev.* post explaining about birch and people may get backed out over it, would be good since I'd have something to point at in the future :-)
# [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d26ee2e87945 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 774819 - Handle system principals in nsPermissionManager when taking principals. r=sicking
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# [19:31] <@ehsan> edmorley: ok
# [19:31] <espindola> edmorley, my plane is to write a quick status update as soon as I get a m-c build
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# [19:32] <glandium> marcoz: if that test says "no", there's probably something wrong with the test. Please file a core/build config bug, and as a work around, you can try adding "export ac_cv_crt_has_text_relocations=yes" to your mozconfig
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# [19:34] <edmorley> espindola: great, thank you :-)
# [19:34] <espindola> clang: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64/1342626894/
# [19:34] <espindola> gcc: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64/1342625158/
# [19:34] <espindola> compare the dmg size :-)
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# [19:36] <marcoz> glandium: Where can I see what the response to that test is? Is that written out somewhere?
# [19:36] <@ehsan> espindola: nice!
# [19:36] <@ehsan> espindola: first time we decreased code size in years ;)
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# [19:38] <mbrubeck> almost the first: http://www.arewesmallyet.com/ :)
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# [19:41] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: huh, what caused that dip there in the graph?
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# [19:41] <marcoz> glandium: I mean, is it written to some log somewhere? If I have to re-run a whole build, with my speech synthesizer, trying to find that output in the console will take several hours with our huge build output.
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# [19:44] <glandium> marcoz: I was about to say it's in config.log, but the answer is not there :(
# [19:45] <glandium> marcoz: you can try the workaround anyway
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# [19:45] <marcoz> glandium: will do.
# [19:46] <marcoz> Thanks for your help!
# [19:46] <glandium> marcoz: you can also check if DSO_LDOPTS contains -nostartfiles in objdir/config/autoconf.mk. If it does, that corresponds to yes on the check.
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# [19:46] <glandium> marcoz: if not, then that's the problem
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# [19:47] <@ehsan> vlad: http://syntensity.com/static/night7/bb.html
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# [19:49] <khuey> espindola: what version of xcode is required now?
# [19:49] <espindola> khuey, as in "build firefox"
# [19:50] <khuey> xyes
# [19:50] <khuey> *yes
# [19:50] <espindola> or, "is supported"
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# [19:50] <espindola> I think xcode 4.2 should be able to build it, but I am not sure
# [19:50] <marcoz> glandium: the line says: DSO_LDOPTS = -shared -Wl,-z,defs
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# [19:50] <espindola> I would recommend using the open source releases
# [19:50] <khuey> ok
# [19:50] <espindola> or even better, the ones we use on the bots :-)
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# [19:51] <espindola> khuey, http://people.mozilla.org/~respindola/clang-160364/
# [19:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e672f4fc77 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 763524 - part 3: persist each ping to its own unique file; r=taras
# [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93b4fb5855a8 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 763524 - part 2: separate out finishRequest and rename it; r=taras
# [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9233c05bd8b0 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 763524 - part 1: pass the entire ping to doPing; r=taras
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# [19:54] <glandium> marcoz: so the workaround should work for you, and you should file that bug :)
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# [19:58] <marcoz> glandium: Umm, so the bug should say something like "test for CRT text relocations" should be positive, but isn't, on Mac", or something?
# [19:58] <jwatt> mattwoodrow: is bug 769942 in your queue?
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# [19:58] <mattwoodrow> jwatt: Nope, we should just land it
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# [19:58] <mattwoodrow> oh, wait never mind
# [19:59] <mattwoodrow> I'll add it though!
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# [19:59] <mattwoodrow> maybe land the test separately
# [19:59] <jwatt> mattwoodrow: :)
# [19:59] <jwatt> yeah, ok, I can do that
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# [20:05] <marcoz> glandium: bug 775182. I hope I got the stuff right on a basic level. Don't really have an idea how to phrase this correctly.
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# [20:09] <espindola> can you put the dmg somewhere?
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# [20:13] <espindola> rail, thanks
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# [20:29] <Primer> Hi, I understand that this is not the right channel for addon development, but that there is such a channel here. Anyone happen to know what it is?
# [20:30] <mbrubeck> Primer: #extdev
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# [20:30] <Primer> mbrubeck: thanks
# [20:30] <mbrubeck> Primer: You are also welcome to ask add-on dev questions in #introduction (especially if you don't find help elsewhere)
# [20:31] <Primer> mbrubeck: lovely!
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# [20:38] <Ms2ger> freelance writer
# [20:38] <jprmc> bz: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-chrome-20-firefox-13-opera-12,3228-2.html
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# [20:39] <bhearsum> ++ to whomever it was that made awesomebar fonts more awesome
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# [20:43] <@bz> jprmc: looking
# [20:43] <jhammel|lunch> Ms2ger: care to edit my storiez?
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# [20:44] <WorkerThread> is the source code for the native themes under /widget/?
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# [20:44] <@bz> jprmc: yeah, I've seen that one. What about it? ;)
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# [20:45] <vlad> oh dear
# [20:45] <vlad> indexeddb crash on nightly
# [20:45] <khuey> woo
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# [20:46] <NeilAway> ehsan: hmm, I don't quite see the point of that
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# [20:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78e6e0765f35 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 769594 - Make nsContentUtils use TestPermissionFromPrincipal instead of TestPermission. r=sicking
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# [20:51] <@ehsan> NeilAway: like if you want to trace where a macro is coming from for example
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# [20:54] <NeilAway> WorkerThread: nsNativeThemeXXX you mean?
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# [20:58] <espindola> tbpl is looking funny for m-c
# [20:59] <espindola> looks like the scheduled builds just disappear once they finish
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# [20:59] <@bsmedberg> vlad: for bug 775206 were you shutting down the browser at the time of the second crash?
# [20:59] <vlad> bsmedberg: nope
# [20:59] <vlad> just reloading the tab :/
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# [20:59] <vlad> I reproduced it twice in a row, but now I can't reproduce it a third time
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# [21:00] <@bsmedberg> nsThreadManager.mLock being invalid is really strange
# [21:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2373e19febf9 - Doug Turner - Bug 765498 - Device Storage - Gaia - ensure /sdcard is backed by a file system. r=dhylands
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# [21:00] <@bsmedberg> and thread 0 looks very stranage
# [21:00] <@ehsan> espindola: indeed... catlee-buildduty: do you know what's up with tbpl?
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# [21:01] <catlee-buildduty> ehsan: no
# [21:01] <catlee-buildduty> what are the symptoms?
# [21:01] <@ehsan> catlee-buildduty: builds disappear, check out m-c for example
# [21:01] <catlee-buildduty> which revision?
# [21:02] <@ehsan> tip
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# [21:02] <jdm> kaie: I found a person who has been writing C/C++ since 1986 and says he's interested in working on the NSS stuff
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# [21:03] <catlee-buildduty> ehsan: ah, that's the bug I'm working on right now
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# [21:03] <kaie> jdm, wonderful, I'd love to talk to him/her!
# [21:03] <jdm> kaie: I'll forward the email
# [21:03] <@ehsan> ok
# [21:03] <catlee-buildduty> why are we hitting that so often I wonder...
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# [21:03] <kaie> jdm, thx! I'll get back to you soon
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# [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a9f2d2b75d4 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 773100 - Invalidate the frame bounds instead of deleting the frame property. r=roc
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# [21:07] <Hixie> PSA: For those of you filing bugs on WHATWG specs (in particular HTML), note that we now have a dedicated component in the W3C Bugzilla: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/describecomponents.cgi?product=WHATWG
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# [21:07] <Hixie> If you have just been sending feedback to the whatwg@whatwg.org list or if you just use the widget in the HTML spec to file feedback, you should be unaffected
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# [21:10] <@ehsan> roc: can you please let me know when you have time to chat about audio stuff?
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# [21:11] <@roc> sure
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# [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50a9cfae125a - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 767337; crash test. r=roc
# [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4394691ba481 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 767337; remove D3D10_RESOURCE_MISC_GDI_COMPATIBLE flag from D3D10 layer manager. r=roc
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# [21:18] <zzzzz> Linux and Android bustage on the clang checkin on m-c
# [21:18] <catlee-buildduty> ehsan: caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741688 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775168 if you want to know
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# [21:19] <catlee-buildduty> the bustage isn't related to clang
# [21:19] <zzzzz> ok
# [21:19] <catlee-buildduty> also, rebuilding them won't work
# [21:20] <catlee-buildduty> need to trigger fresh builds on that revision
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# [21:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9923c05eafd - Ted Mielczarek - bug 763621 - Fix a Breakpad issue, patch from upstream r792. r=upstream
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# [21:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f9d8eb30fb7 - Brian Birtles - Bug 765107 - Fix transformed filter drawing with Azure; r=bas
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# [21:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/497967ad20bf - Dave Hylands - Bug 773414 - Add PR_DuplicateEnvironment function. r=cjones
# [21:35] <@bsmedberg> wow that's an ugly commit ;-)
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# [21:39] <khuey> what is gecko-unsigned-unaligned.apk?
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# [21:40] <@bsmedberg> why isn't it obvious? It's unsigned and unaligned! ;-P
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# [21:42] <espindola> ehsan, catlee-buildduty upload failures
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# [21:42] <espindola> that probably explains why the build were not showing up
# [21:43] <catlee-buildduty> yep
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# [21:43] <catlee-buildduty> if you trigger a new set of builds via self-serve they should succeed
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# [21:44] <Callek> ted: ummm, I *thought* we still had the concept of needing r+ for even upstream landings into our prod tree
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# [21:45] <Callek> even if its a blanket-r or a rs+-on-whole-version-bump stuff
# [21:45] <Callek> ted: am I wrong?
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# [21:49] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg, sorry for the comment spam on 642807, but i think i've isolated the issue now
# [21:50] <@bsmedberg> np
# [21:50] <@bsmedberg> comment spam is only bad if there are 100 people cc'ed on the bug
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# [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1da77bc0bc2 - Chris Jones - Bug 774989: Transform touch-event coordinates for remote content. r=smaug
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# [22:10] <marcoz> glandium: Just a quick wrap-up: It worked. With the workaround after a full new build, that new build no longer crashes.
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# [22:11] <Austin__> Is there a particular format required for browser/config/version.txt; config/milestone.txt; and js/src/config/milestone.txt?
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# [22:12] <Austin__> I'm making a lightly-modified build and would like to change the version so that it's (say) 13.0.1.1 or 13.0.1-1 so that it's clear that it's not a build from Mozilla.
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# [22:17] <mccr8> Will a crash test fail if it triggers an NS_ASSERTION?
# [22:18] <khuey> yes
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# [22:19] <NeilAway> there's no easy way to specify a repeating double size background image in css is there?
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# [22:23] <mbrubeck> NeilAway: Only if you pre-compute the size, I think. (Assuming by "double size" you mean twice the image's intrinsic size.)
# [22:23] <jhammel> so JS
# [22:23] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg, shall i wait for you to talk with josh about bug 642807 or start looking into a patch tomorrow?
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# [22:25] <josh> gfritzsche: We should fix that immediately, you or me
# [22:25] <josh> gfritzsche: what might bsmedberg want to discuss with me?
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# [22:26] <gfritzsche> josh, thought you wanted to talk about how to approach this, but i might remember wrong :)
# [22:26] <josh> gfritzsche: Let's fix it and get the patch to aurora ASAP
# [22:26] <josh> gfritzsche: Do you have a good idea of how to fix it yet?
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# [22:27] <gfritzsche> josh, basically yes, but i'm not sure about side effects for refresh(true) and the resulting delayed destruction
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# [22:28] <gfritzsche> josh, but i can look into it tomorrow
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# [22:30] <NeilAway> mbrubeck: indeed
# [22:31] <josh> gfritzsche: I know that stuff well enough, I can look into it in review
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# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b42e44601363 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 761831 - Be less ambitious in GetMemberInfo. r=bholley
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# [22:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/260ccc75c211 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 774841 - Check the proper extension before using ImageTargetTexture2D - r=bgirard
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# [22:55] <@ehsan> roc: do you know what the web audio bug# is?
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# [23:05] <jesup|laptop> Grrr. Gecko Profiler doesn't get served (off github) with the right type - offers save or select an application.
# [23:05] <BenWa> jesup|laptop: I was going to fix that but the wiki was read-only
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# [23:07] <jesup|laptop> BenWa: aha. Just saved and ^O'd to open the file - annoying to people who don't know what an .xpi is though
# [23:07] <BenWa> Yes I will fix it
# [23:07] <jhammel> fwiw, i was annoyed by the same thing
# [23:08] <jhammel> and also had to ask here how to fix
# [23:08] <jesup|laptop> Won't likely help me with this bug anyways - i-loop refeshing a page at >100% zoom (bug 61684, comment 67 (I'll spin it into a new bug likely)
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# [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6312d382ffc3 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 767809 - BrowserToolbar.show/hide must be called on the UI thread [r=margaret]
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# [23:18] <sawrubh> ehsan: feel free to land 722996 when you're free :)
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# [23:21] <@ehsan> sawrubh: do you need me to review it again?
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# [23:23] <sawrubh> ehsan: sure take a quick look, it's just a couple of lines :)
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# [23:24] <@ehsan> ah that was the checkin? flag!
# [23:25] <sawrubh> ehsan: re Bug 722995, btw, so Josh suggested that maybe I might try calling setFile(null, null) while inside PB mode, which could solve the problem
# [23:25] <@ehsan> ok
# [23:25] <sawrubh> ehsan: I'm not sure sure, how else to debug the probable causes
# [23:25] <sawrubh> any ideas ?
# [23:26] <sawrubh> ehsan: Josh said that this was "cheating" :P and I should maybe first ask you too :)
# [23:26] <@ehsan> sawrubh: nothing concrete... probably by sticking a lot of dump() calls all around the code and try to follow the execution path
# [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82b78defe027 - Saurabh Anand - Bug 722996 - cookieAcceptDialog.js uses global Private Browsing state to make decisions; r=ehsan
# [23:26] <@ehsan> well let's first have something working and then we can discuss whether I like it or not :)
# [23:27] <sawrubh> sure
# [23:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4a04cc38326 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 774059 - Fix up references to glEGLImageTargetTexture2D - r=bjacob
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# [23:28] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, uploads still failing :-(
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# [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44f8cae1dcf0 - Jonas Sicking - Bug 769594: Make nsObjectLoadingContent use TestPermissionFromPrincipal. r=mounir
# [23:29] <sawrubh> ehsan: so now that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774660 will land, how will it change/affect Bug 722978 ? Does your suggestion hold ?
# [23:29] <espindola> on another note, I have a patch that lets us use ccache with clang
# [23:29] <catlee-buildduty> espindola: did you create new builds or just re-build the failing ones?
# [23:29] <espindola> cadecairos_away, I clicked on the + in tbpl
# [23:29] <@ehsan> sawrubh: see dao's comment about the observer stuff, I don't know how that works really
# [23:29] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, ^ (silly auto complete)
# [23:29] <gps> when looking at xpcshell under a profiler, I couldn't help but notice there are tons of .xpt files in dist/bin/components being opened at process start time. seems a bit wasteful. (of course I have no clue what this actually is for)
# [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be1e9d076b8a - Shane Caraveo - Bug 755136: implement social sidebar, r=gavin
# [23:30] <catlee-buildduty> espindola: yeah, that won't work
# [23:30] <espindola> ah, sorry, what do I have to do?
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# [23:31] <catlee-buildduty> espindola: go here: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-central
# [23:31] <catlee-buildduty> at the bottom is "create new dep builds"
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# [23:33] <espindola> catlee-buildduty, what is 'dep' in this context?
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# [23:34] <catlee-buildduty> espindola: 'depend' build (vs. 'clobber')
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# [23:34] <espindola> ah
# [23:34] <espindola> I used tip for the revision
# [23:34] <espindola> got
# [23:34] <espindola> {
# [23:34] <espindola> "status": "OK",
# [23:34] <espindola> "request_id": 49960
# [23:34] <espindola> }
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# [23:35] <espindola> it is not showing up on tbpl, should I used a hash for the revision?
# [23:36] <@gavin> you can just leave it blank
# [23:36] <@gavin> it takes a while to show up on tbpl, too
# [23:36] <@gavin> or even in buildapi, there's some lag because it's cached
# [23:37] <espindola> ah, ok, thanks
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# [23:40] <jlebar> How do I run a mochitest in the msvc debugger?
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# [23:43] <hub> I have a n00b question: do we have something to check the javascript syntax?
# [23:44] <kaie> that's a good question. you mean check it prior to building and running? I wish we had something like that
# [23:44] <kaie> I guess the JS syntax won't be checked until executed at runtime.
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# [23:45] <gps> hub: I think the answer is you should have tests exercising your code before you check it in
# [23:45] <kaie> mrbkap or Wes probaly know
# [23:45] <hub> gps: no that's before even testing it. like the compiler would do
# [23:45] <kaie> gps, but you cannot run the tests before you do a full build cycle, right?
# [23:45] <hub> but I guess the answer is no :-(
# [23:46] <gps> kaie: you can cheat and do a partial build
# [23:46] <kaie> gps, well, ok, a depend build, but you still must do the build and wait for the big link phase to complete
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# [23:47] <gps> if you change javascript only and need to perform a link, you are doing it wrong
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# [23:47] <kaie> which means, a couple minutes waiting after every JS syntax error you run into
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# [23:48] <gps> see https://hg.mozilla.org/users/josh_joshmatthews.net/smartmake
# [23:48] <@dolske> nothing in m-c, but there's a tool called jslint
# [23:48] <@dolske> I think most people just rely on syntax hilighting in vim/emacs for the basics.
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# [23:48] <gps> does jslint work with the latest languange features commonly found in Mozilla code?
# [23:48] <@dolske> I thought the newest versions did, for at least some stuff.
# [23:48] <gps> isn't jslint the crappy one that isn't configurable? crock's way or no way?
# [23:49] <hub> the worst is when you have to flash the device first
# [23:49] <@dolske> ah, jshint is the fork
# [23:49] <@dolske> in any case, it likely isn't the tool you want. :P
# [23:50] <gps> anant: what's the JS style/linter that doesn't suck?
# [23:50] <espindola> gavin, still not showing on tbpl...
# [23:50] <kaie> gps, is there a readme/howoto/wiki page/any instructions for smartmake?
# [23:51] <anant> gps: jshint is the one I use
# [23:51] <gps> kaie: ask jdm?
# [23:51] <anant> it has a "browser" checkbox unlike jslint that makes things nicer
# [23:51] <gps> also ask people on your team what they use as a make shortcut
# [23:51] <gps> what directory is this for?
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# [23:52] <mbrubeck> kaie: http://www.joshmatthews.net/blog/2011/05/build-smarter-not-harder/ has a very brief introduction
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# [23:52] <mbrubeck> anyway, for JS changes you typically need to rebuild only in the directory containing the JS files you're editing
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# [23:53] <mbrubeck> and if you use --enable-chrome-format=symlink then you don't need to rebuild at all (unless the file is preprocessed)
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# [23:55] <gps> mbrubeck: that only applies to js files packaged into jars
# [23:58] <kaie> mbrubeck, both hints are interesting, thx
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# [23:58] <kaie> hub, you cannot use an emulator for testing your code?
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# [23:59] <mrbkap> hub: if you build the js shell, you can use "js -c path/to/your/file" which will syntax check it.
# [23:59] <mrbkap> hub: it won't help with things like typo'd identifiers, but it'll catch missing braces, etc.
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