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# [00:00] <tn> bent, if you can break on one of the calls the js stack and the frame tree would be helpful to see what is happening
# [00:00] <bent> it's an opt build...
# [00:01] <bent> but maybe!
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# [00:10] <decoder> gotta love "UnknownError" in the webconsole
# [00:11] <decoder> -.-
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# [00:14] <RealRaven> a question, what does !review mean?
# [00:14] <@gavin> where have you seen that?
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# [00:14] <khuey> decoder: indexedDB doesn't know what you did wrong :-P
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# [00:15] <RealRaven> I mean: r=mkmelin!
# [00:15] <RealRaven> I thought there is r+, r- and r?
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# [00:16] <bent> tn, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/scrollbox.xml#646
# [00:16] <bent> tn, it's on the animation timer
# [00:16] <dolske> RealRaven: sounds like someone was simply excited. :)
# [00:16] <dolske> r=foo implies "r+ by foo"
# [00:16] <decoder> khuey: and I also cant catch the error? :P
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# [00:17] <khuey> decoder: those are error events, not exceptions
# [00:17] <khuey> decoder: if you don't preventDefault on them, they bubble up to window.onerror
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# [00:17] <decoder> khuey: ah ok thx
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# [00:18] <RealRaven> dolske: aha does that mean I can add r+ for mkmelin in my next patch? the last patch was mainly style nits : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450302 (comment 74 at the top)
# [00:18] <joe> ted: ping
# [00:18] <RealRaven> dolske: or should I still r? ?
# [00:19] <tn> bent, you'd think that animation would finish at some point and so stopped being called, does that not happen?
# [00:19] <bent> tn, apparently not :)
# [00:20] <dolske> RealRaven: you don't have to, unless you find that in fixing those comments you actually need to make bigger changes
# [00:20] <mccr8> jlebar|afk: ping
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# [00:21] <dolske> RealRaven: it's common practice for someone to r+ a patch pending small changes. The asusmption being if the changes are small/obvious as suggested, there's not really any point in "reviewing" the patch again.
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# [00:21] <RealRaven> dolske: cool. so I will do that. who is then deciding to land it and how is it done?
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# [00:22] <dolske> RealRaven: do you have commit access?
# [00:22] <RealRaven> no, I don't. Also it is my first patch.
# [00:22] <dolske> (I assume not, since this is apparently your first patch :)
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# [00:23] <tn> bent, so is it a problem with the js doing the animation or the scroll code that makes it keep going forever?
# [00:23] <dolske> right. so you can either ask someone to land it for you, or put checkin-needed in the keywords field.
# [00:23] <edmorley|away> !seen bholley
# [00:23] <firebot> bholley was last seen 6 hours, 10 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying 'billm: awesome! :-)' in #jsapi.
# [00:24] <dolske> At least, I assume checkin-needed is good for comm-central... Callek?
# [00:24] <RealRaven> hmm, cool.
# [00:24] <bent> tn, hard to say
# [00:24] <bent> i guess it's both
# [00:24] <Callek> dolske: checkin-needed works for c-c yes
# [00:24] <Callek> RyanVM at the least does some of those run-throughs
# [00:24] <dolske> RealRaven: there you go. :)
# [00:25] <RealRaven> ok, it also has uiwanted, which I will leave in there as well.
# [00:25] <dolske> RealRaven: there's a set of people who watch for bugs with "checkin-needed" set, and will land the patch for you. Usually in a day or so.
# [00:25] <dolske> If the ui's been sorted out (which I assume it has, since you've got code), then you could remove uiwanted.
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# [00:25] <Callek> RealRaven: thanks for the patch btw
# [00:26] <RealRaven> your welcome. Hopefully more to come ...
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# [00:27] <RealRaven> dolske: yes UI is sorted as it was r+ by bwinton
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# [00:28] <RealRaven> by the way, the menu in Tb daily looks weird in XP. it is cut off at the top
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# [00:32] <@smaug> RealRaven: bug filed?
# [00:33] <RealRaven> no. I guess I won't because it is an "edge case" (boom boom)
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# [00:34] <RealRaven> I am using windowblinds. that doesn't take kindly to apps that overwrite the windows caption bar. Looks like Thunderbird has now been added to that list. And in a worse way than Firefox. (in Firefox, you could simply display the menu and would have a normal caption bar)
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# [00:38] <espadrine> Does anyone know what happens when Components.utils.import tries to resolve a cyclic dependency?
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# [00:39] <firebot> Check-in:
# [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22badde74fb9 - Ed Morley - Backout 14245bf85a3d (bug 778420), b9f603d3eef4 (bug 778420), e9bc27234022 (bug 72964), d5aa53121d29 (bug 778420), 959cc7ef5f5a (bug 726053) for m1 failures in
# [00:40] <firebot> test_offline_gzip.html
# [00:40] <decoder> khuey|away: im getting that error when doing deleteDatabase..
# [00:40] <decoder> that does sound wrong :(
# [00:41] <dolske> espadrine: how would it be cyclic?
# [00:41] <dolske> you mean like foo.jsm importing bar.jsm which imports foo.jsm?
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# [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc1c8194da40 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 777177 - Keep the social sidebar loaded, and dispatch events when it is opened/closed, r=gavin
# [00:42] <biesi> my guess is a "too much recursion" exception
# [00:42] <biesi> but maybe you'll get a crash instead!
# [00:42] <espadrine> dolske: I have A that imports B, and B extends an object in A. I am C, which A needs, and I need the extension that B builds.
# [00:42] <espadrine> (A, B, C being all js modules)
# [00:42] <dolske> I would assume it just works. aiui Cu.import is basically a no-op when the import's already been done (ie, it already exists), and so you'd simply get a reference as expceted.
# [00:43] <RealRaven> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780303 - Main Menu truncated in Windows XP
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# [00:43] <RealRaven> there is a screenshot that shows what I mean
# [00:44] <dolske> espadrine: seems like it would just depend on the order of execution for the Cu.imports().
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# [00:44] <espadrine> dolske: the strange part is that I get a "EXPORTED_SYMBOLS is not an array"
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# [00:44] <RealRaven> smaug: https://bug780303.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=648878
# [00:44] <RealRaven> (screenshot)
# [00:44] <espadrine> I wish I had the reference which was evaluated the first time…
# [00:45] <dolske> espadrine: does that get evaluated before the import?
# [00:46] <espadrine> dolske: you mean, does the EXPORTED_SYMBOLS get evaluated?
# [00:46] <espadrine> hmm, I don't think so
# [00:46] <dolske> you may have to reorder some stuff in your JSMs.
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# [00:48] <@gavin> you do need to be careful about import loops
# [00:48] <@gavin> if two modules import each other the second import will fail silently, IIRC
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# [00:49] <dolske> that seems surprising
# [00:50] <dolske> oh, hmm, well
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# [00:50] <jlebar> mccr8, ack
# [00:50] <@gavin> modules rarely need to access other modules while they're being initialized, so you can usually work aroudn it with a lazy module getter
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# [00:51] <dolske> seems like it would just depend on when EXPORTED_SYMBOLS gets set.
# [00:51] <espadrine> gavin: oh, ok
# [00:51] <espadrine> that explains it
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# [01:03] <Callek> de-facto-sheriff: sorry for the android tegra delay right now, should be back up soon
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# [01:05] <edmorley|away> Callek: mbrubeck is away until sunday, philor's 3 week vacation ends sunday/monday and i'm pretty much falling asleep... so I fear you are somewhat talking to yourself :-)
# [01:05] <Callek> edmorley|away: yea thats why I said "de-facto-sheriff"
# [01:05] <Callek> ;-)
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# [01:05] <Callek> edmorley|away: *someone* will care, when or who I have no idea
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# [01:07] <WG9s> Callek: I care, I have not been starring android builds becuase powerw that be seem to think it is better to just retrigger.
# [01:08] <WG9s> I maight try to star builds that map to known orange issues.
# [01:08] <WG9s> in the interim.
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# [01:09] <Callek> WG9s: yea, we're trying to get into a situation where "retrigger on orange" is NOT the de-facto solution
# [01:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83c9437ff26d - Eric Faust - Bug 742188 - Implement ToInt64 and ToUint64 per the WebIDL standard. (r=jorendorff)
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# [01:09] <Callek> WG9s: and I'd much prefer we get star/comments when a certain known-orange/issue is happening so it can help me/releng/ateam identify the current larger pain points here, and actually triage/fix them in a most-impact way
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# [01:10] <Callek> rather than going with what we *think* is the larger pain points/solutions and tackling those
# [01:10] <Callek> but the hard part is some of these "known orange" cases are harder to identify properly
# [01:10] <Callek> but thank you
# [01:11] <WG9s> callek: yes but issue is in the past the mobile deveoplers seemed to be adverse3 to getting orange builds to map to test failures on mobild.
# [01:11] <WG9s> not sure why, but if that has cahnged that would be great.
# [01:11] <Callek> WG9s: I think that adverse was a factor of how flakey some of the harness/releng code was.... we're MUCH better than we once were there
# [01:12] <WG9s> I can probalby try to star builds if they map to a known orange issue.
# [01:12] <WG9s> i tend to not do that becuase everyone else just seems to retrigger.
# [01:12] <WG9s> if it is an android issue
# [01:12] * Callek admits to the "just retrigger" hell on occassion too, fwiw so I don't fault anyone for it
# [01:13] <WG9s> or just star it with a it is android so we are ignoring.
# [01:13] <WG9s> tretrigger builds are starrted with r*
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# [01:14] <WG9s> but we also have issues starred with a* which as far as i know means we ignore all android oranges
# [01:14] <WG9s> and builods have been starred with a* even today.
# [01:14] <edmorley|away> WG9s: no; I am using 'a' for both
# [01:14] <edmorley|away> it's just easier not to type something different
# [01:15] <WG9s> edmorley|away: fopr both sahat?
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# [01:15] <edmorley|away> WG9s: for both retriggers and "don;t need to since next push green or load is high so just going to star and see"
# [01:15] <WG9s> edmorley|away: what does strrring with a as the reason mean?
# [01:16] <edmorley|away> WG9s: 'a' for android
# [01:16] <WG9s> so why is that a and not r?
# [01:16] <edmorley|away> it might as well be 'sausages' for all it matters
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# [01:16] <WG9s> exactly why is android treated differnetly?
# [01:16] <edmorley|away> I'll let you guess
# [01:16] <WG9s> we dont;l star things as w if windows only
# [01:17] <dolske> mmmm. sausage.
# [01:17] <WG9s> or m if mac only
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# [01:18] <WG9s> or l if linux only
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# [01:19] <dolske> or s if sausage only
# [01:20] <WG9s> we need to get all the random failures on android to have bugs filed and star builds ot those bugs
# [01:20] <WG9s> just like we do with other platforms
# [01:20] <dolske> we should get started right now!
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# [01:20] <dolske> I'm busy with a patch, you start.
# [01:21] <edmorley|away> WG9s: off the top of my head: (a) complete and utter unreliability & has been for a year, (b) 95% of items requiring manual starring so a PITA and a complete time sink, (c) the main faults were already identified months ago, so continually manually starring when we knew the top 5 priority items was pointless, (d) even people who looked at failures multiple times a day struggling to tell the different failure condition
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# [01:22] <WG9s> edmorley|away: tes those are all issues we need to fix
# [01:22] <WG9s> not a reason to jsut star things as it is android so we dont care.
# [01:22] <edmorley|away> WG9s: I agree, see the bugs I've filed
# [01:22] <WG9s> edmore
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# [01:23] <WG9s> edmorley|away: i wil lok at those bugs.
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# [01:23] <edmorley|away> ok
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# [01:24] <WG9s> me pint was that we need to treat android failures the same way we do other platform test failures.
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# [01:25] <WG9s> and i realize the last time we tried to do that the mobile developers were the issue in getting this to be done.
# [01:25] <edmorley|away> WG9s: until now, many of the failures have been infra/hardware/not test related (so very much not like the other platforms), but hopefully post bug 771626 and bug 779871, that will change (progress is being made on those two as we speak)
# [01:26] <edmorley|away> WG9s: I think we are in the unfortunate position where for some time, a number of problems have been infra/hardware/?? so product has understandably punted elsewhere; however as the 20+ disabled OOMing tests show (in bug 775227 and friends), the problem is in-product too
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# [01:26] <WG9s> edmorley|away: I hope you understand I am really not trying to criticise stuff done in the the past here, I really want to have a better way to have stuff going forward. Even though (because people asked) I pointed out issues from the past.
# [01:27] <edmorley|away> I'm thankful for you wanting to improve the current situation (I would like it improved too)
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# [01:27] <WG9s> edmorley|away: andi realize we have issues with hardware in the USB to device stuff
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# [01:28] <edmorley|away> it just seems that you think no-one is working on this, when that is the opposite of the truth
# [01:28] <WG9s> i thinki it might be nice to have devices that sust download the build fom a build system, kind of the wsay my build tests work.
# [01:28] <WG9s> so to be independednt on stupid hardwware issues.
# [01:28] <jhammel> WG9s: as long as we're bringing up history that was tried before too
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# [01:29] <jhammel> it had "other issues" though i can't recall the details
# [01:29] <edmorley|away> WG9s: eg https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=775227&hide_resolved=0 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=777436&hide_resolved=0 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=android_tier
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# [01:32] * edmorley|away will star with 'bacon' from now on, just to vary things up a bit (and keep dolske happy :-D)
# [01:32] <jhammel> edmorley|away++
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# [01:33] <NeilAway> invoking pymake on a missing target is not an error :-(
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# [01:35] <WG9s> edmorley|away: bacon is always good! ;-)
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# [01:36] <WG9s> my issue was i actually had a build i was going to star with a real bug it matched up with adn found it already starred with just "a" and was not sure at all that was usefull.
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# [01:37] <edmorley|away> WG9s: you can star again
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# [01:37] <edmorley|away> WG9s: orangefactor still counts it for stats
# [01:37] <WG9s> I had actually wated a lot of time finding the exadct issue this hsould have been mapped to but by the timne i figured it out it has already been stgarred with a useless "a"
# [01:37] <edmorley|away> WG9s: on the plus side, I am very excited to see what the anti-spontaneous reboot patches (that have landed in the last 24 hours) do for android reliability :-)
# [01:38] <WG9s> wel maybe wil help
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# [01:38] <WG9s> i tend to not star builds related top merges unless the person doing the merge had not already starred.
# [01:38] <edmorley|away> WG9s: oh and other issue, is that until failures are starred, they completely disrupt the j/k key workflow (so it isn't as simple as just saying "oh lets not star any android failures and leave them half a day until someone who can interpret the tea leaves is around"
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# [01:39] <WG9s> but iot seems if others jhuist retrigger or star as it is android so we don;t dare.
# [01:40] <WG9s> not much incentive for me to try to find the real issue.
# [01:40] <WG9s> s/dare/care/
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# [01:50] <eeejay> if PR_Now() is returning 1344036944114511
# [01:50] <eeejay> isn't that a bug?
# [01:51] <Mook> eeejay: Fri Aug 03 2012 16:35:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) ?
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# [01:51] <Mook> (well, thereabouts, time zone differences)
# [01:51] <eeejay> Mook, how did you parse that?
# [01:51] <Mook> eeejay: from JS: new Date(1344036944114511/1000)
# [01:52] <eeejay> Mook, oooh, it does say microseconds
# [01:52] <eeejay> i misread it as milliseconds, thanks
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# [04:14] <darktrojan> Unfocused, http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d7b0289ccc7#l18.93
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# [04:16] <Unfocused> damnit!
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# [04:16] <Unfocused> thought i had the indenting right :\
# [04:17] <darktrojan> no cigar
# [04:17] <Unfocused> i'll blame saturday and being ill
# [04:18] <darktrojan> again?
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# [04:18] <Unfocused> think it was something i ate :\
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# [04:19] <darktrojan> you've got to stop chewing on shrooms
# [04:19] <Unfocused> being gluten intolerant is a minefield when you're away from home
# [04:19] <Unfocused> :P
# [04:20] <kaie> does ssh://hg.mozilla.org listen on any additional port besides 22? my hotel blocks port 22 :/
# [04:20] <bkero> no
# [04:20] <kaie> ok thx. time for evil port forwarding.
# [04:21] <bkero> I would suggest port forwarding something :)
# [04:21] <kaie> :)
# [04:21] <bkero> ssh -L0.0.0.0:80:hg.mozilla.org:22 yourbox.com
# [04:21] <kaie> well
# [04:21] <kaie> my hotel blocks port 22 to any destinations
# [04:21] <bkero> do that from somewhere else :P
# [04:22] <bkero> I can set up a temporary non-22 ssh forward for you to somewhere if you'd like
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# [04:22] <kaie> Oh, I see I can connect to port 22 to hosts that are inside the red hat vpn
# [04:23] <kaie> thanks for the offer, I guess I found another solution
# [04:24] <Unfocused> file an it bug? having an alternate port seems generally useful
# [04:24] <darktrojan> you can get on irc but not ssh? wth
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# [04:25] <bkero> blocking port 22
# [04:26] <kaie> yeah, I suggest to use port 21 in addition. I used to do that on my own server, but forgot when I restinalled it :/
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# [04:26] <kaie> will file
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# [04:29] <@bz> since the alternative is too frightening to contemplate
# [04:29] <@bz> (in terms of port 23 use)
# [04:30] <dolske> 443 is convienent too, unless you're some place that requires usage of a proxy. :)
# [04:30] <kaie> well hg.mozilla.org already offers 443
# [04:30] <kaie> so that's not an option
# [04:31] <kaie> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780334
# [04:31] <kaie> (443 is for https)
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# [04:44] <jaws> lotza leaks on inbound...
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# [04:45] <zwol> gonna ask this again here, just in case:
# [04:45] <zwol> Is anyone here who's going to USENIX Security and/or FOCI next week? I need someone with registered-attendee access to their webpage to look something up for me.
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# [05:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b97b846f6c3c - Chris Jones - Bug 780346: Add a sample label to refresh driver. irl-r=mattwoodrow
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# [05:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd329615ef3e - Benjamin Peterson - backout 6609595c84eb for leaking mutex
# [05:45] <espadrine> can anyone confirm that the dump() function doesn't support unicode?
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# [05:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d19bc0ab5a98 - Andres Hernandez - Bug 621564. Use Map in nsContentPrefService's cache. r=felipe
# [05:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01f85b0fe9fc - Felipe Gomes - Bug 775803. Move WebappsInstaller to toolkit. r=glandium
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# [07:13] <@dbaron> espadrine, it does if your console expects UTF-8
# [07:13] <@dbaron> espadrine, if you're talking about window.dump() in the browser, anyway
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# [08:10] <db48x> hmm
# [08:11] <dolske> hmmmm </harmony>
# [08:13] <benjamin> actually, <harmony>ES6....
# [08:13] <dolske> oh no
# [08:13] <dolske> you've reversed the tags
# [08:13] <benjamin> that's because it hasn't finished
# [08:14] <dolske> now everything is ES6 except for "\nactually, "
# [08:14] <db48x> :)
# [08:14] <benjamin> it's in the middle of a cdata bikeshedding section
# [08:14] * dolske mumbles something about being outside the asylum
# [08:16] <auscompgeek> <!-- *evil laughter*
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# [08:17] <dolske> <![CDATA[ *eviler laughter*
# [08:18] <auscompgeek> but your CDATA is in my comment
# [08:18] <heycam> document.createCDATASection("]]>"); // computer explodes
# [08:19] <dolske> <blink> I'm so, so, so, sorry.
# [08:19] <dolske> (somewhere, an irc log is becoming terribly malformed)
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# [08:19] <db48x> dolske: lol
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# [08:20] <auscompgeek> <marquee> try to catch me
# [08:20] <Mook> the most content-breaking HTML (tag soup) tag I've found was an open <object> tag; that basically ends up discarding the rest of the page :D
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# [08:26] <auscompgeek> console.log = <><something version=3.1></>;
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# [08:27] <espadrine> dbaron: I believe this isn't my terminal… http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7708718818_4ae942926e_m.jpg
# [08:28] <@dbaron> espadrine, window.dump() != js shell print() ?
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# [08:29] <espadrine> dbaron: is it? It seems to work the same way
# [08:30] <@dbaron> espadrine, nsGlobalWindow::Dump calls ToNewUTF8String on its UTF-16 input and sends that to stdout
# [08:31] <@dbaron> espadrine, PrintInternal in js/src/shell/js.cpp calls JS_EncodeString
# [08:32] <@dbaron> espadrine, which apparently depends on whether JS has been told strings are UTF-8
# [08:32] <@dbaron> espadrine, which defaults to off, based on my reading of jsapi.h
# [08:32] <@dbaron> espadrine, so it compresses to ISO-8859-1 or ASCII
# [08:32] <@dbaron> espadrine, by just knocking off the high byte
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# [08:35] <espadrine> dbaron: huh, so dump() *should* print unicode strings, and the files are encoded in utf-8, but my terminal doesn't show unicode characters right…
# [08:35] <espadrine> I need to test this further
# [08:35] <heycam> dbaron, btw let me know if my response to your (1) in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780337#c3 is fine (since you gave conditional r+)
# [08:36] <db48x> espadrine: pipe the output through hexdump -C to check that assumption
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# [08:41] <@dbaron> heycam, sounds fine
# [08:42] <@dbaron> heycam, looks like the only thing you disagreed with was not creating another test that you already had ;-)
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# [08:42] <heycam> dbaron, right, I'm just trying to follow the r+ conditions precisely. :)
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# [08:47] <espadrine> db48x: well, the output that dump() generates seems wrong
# [08:48] <espadrine> for the leftwards arrow, I get c3 a2 c2 86 c2 90
# [08:48] <db48x> double-encoded utf8
# [08:48] <espadrine> it's puzzling
# [08:51] <db48x> check that the input is correct
# [08:51] <db48x> echo the arrow straight into hexdump -C and make sure it's utf-8
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# [08:52] <espadrine> db48x: e2 86 90, unsurprisingly
# [08:52] <espadrine> what is double-encoded utf8?
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# [08:54] <db48x> that's when you take some string that has utf-8 in it, but thinking that it is ascii or iso-8859-1 (or whatever), you then convert it to utf-8
# [08:55] <@dbaron> $ echo ä | iconv -fiso-8859-1 -tutf-8
# [08:55] <@dbaron> Ã¤
# [08:56] <db48x> hixie's utf8-decoder has a mode you can use to undo that kind of damage
# [08:57] <db48x> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/unicode-decoder/utf8-decoder
# [08:57] <@dbaron> so does iconv :-)
# [08:57] <db48x> yes, but if you suspect that your terminal is mangling your bytes, then using iconv is tricky :)
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# [08:59] <espadrine> does that mean that dump() believes the input is latin-1 (which would indeed give the bytes I got)?
# [08:59] <espadrine> I'll try with a different terminal…
# [09:00] <db48x> espadrine: probably
# [09:00] <glandium> let's see if i can break the tree /o\
# [09:00] <KWierso|Home> you have my sword
# [09:00] <Mook> hg rm client.mk ?
# [09:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad1693a9b908 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 4 - Add check-sync-dirs exception for *.pyc under build/. r=ted
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3f1d6b6cd63 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 1 - Avoid Preprocessor.py replacing undefined variables with the attemptSubstitution filter. r=ted
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4218536a9e6 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 5 - Use explicit _NON_GLOBAL_ACDEFINES, and rely less on pattern matching. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4440a3d03b51 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 3 - Remove variables with no AC_SUBST in autoconf.mk.in. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c65fa0ee6e28 - Mike Hommey - Bug 776968 - Avoid modifying autoconf.mk after running nspr configure. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21c3069ddc4a - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 6 - Replace autoconf handling of config files and headers with our own. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ef51674316a - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 bonus - Use @DEPTH@ and @relativesrcdir@ in Makefile.in. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75ac79f11192 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 7 - Remove make-makefile and acoutput-fast.pl. r=ted
# [09:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc06248ee601 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 part 2 - Allow to disable markers in Preprocessor.py. r=ted
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# [09:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8c1c8501141 - Mike Hommey - Bug 780159 - Remove obsolete REGCHROME. r=ted
# [09:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea718abec95c - Mike Hommey - Bug 776561 - Avoid OS_LIBS containing -lrt when there is no config.cache. r=khuey
# [09:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/040c3b5a99d0 - Mike Hommey - Bug 778740 - Allow to use Linux kernel headers for perf events. r=khuey
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# [09:13] <Fallen> glandium: do you have a bug for comm-central to catch up filed, or should I do that?
# [09:13] <Fallen> or does Standard8 already know about these changes?
# [09:14] <glandium> Fallen: you should probably do that
# [09:14] <Fallen> ok, thanks
# [09:15] <glandium> Fallen: note i'm not sure how comm-central will react to these changes
# [09:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9564834bfe1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 780337 - @supports rule should not parse if property value is empty. r=dbaron
# [09:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efe20b02bab1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 778600 - Indent closing brace when listing GroupRules. r=dbaron
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# [09:19] <Fallen> glandium: how so? Anything specific I should write into the bug?
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# [09:21] <glandium> Fallen: looking into it, besides the lack of Preprocessor.py in c-c, it should be fine
# [09:21] <glandium> Fallen: you should only need bug 774032 and bug 780159
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# [09:25] <Fallen> glandium: ok, thanks. bug 776968 would probably avoid some reconfigs, for developers, right?
# [09:26] <glandium> Fallen: it changes nothing, actually, because there was a workaround to avoid them
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# [09:27] <glandium> Fallen: ah, looking at configure.in in c-c, bug 774032 is definitely going to break it, because it removes acoutput-fast.pl
# [09:28] <glandium> although, actually, it might still work if it doesn't error out
# [09:29] <glandium> likewise with make-makefile
# [09:30] <Fallen> well, its probably better to port those bugs to keep the files in sync
# [09:31] <glandium> Fallen: it's not like you have much choice :-p
# [09:33] <Fallen> yeah ;-) Anyway, I filed bug 780357 if you want to put yourself on CC
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# [09:54] <Ms2ger> glandium, looks like you managed to bust M3
# [09:55] <glandium> Ms2ger: and m5
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# [09:55] <Ms2ger> And android xul opt, but that looks like a clobber issue
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# [09:56] <glandium> the crazy thing is that i've made absolutely sure this patch set was *not* changing anything meaningful in the objdir
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# [10:03] <glandium> i'm trying a rebuild with clobber
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# [10:09] <glandium> heycam: you broke M4
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# [10:10] <heycam> glandium, so I did
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# [10:14] * heycam has a simple fix but it's going to take half on hour for my local build to be done before I can verify it, wonders if he should just land it
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# [10:18] <glandium> heycam: you can wait, i'm still waiting to see if i need to backout or not
# [10:18] <glandium> (for mine)
# [10:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92e7a70cc292 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 780337 - CSSSupportsRule serialization test fixup. r=burning
# [10:18] <heycam> glandium, oops I just landed :)
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# [10:23] <heycam> hmm how is it possible that my test failed on mac but not other platforms, that doesn't make sense
# [10:24] <edmorley> holding it wrong? :-)
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# [10:25] <edmorley> glandium: is a clobber going to fix the failures?
# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Morning, edmorley
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# [10:25] <glandium> edmorley: i hope so, that's what i'm currently trying
# [10:25] <edmorley> Good morning Ms2ger (and everyone else :-))
# [10:25] <edmorley> glandium: cool :-)
# [10:26] <heycam> oh my test is in M5 on linux, but M4 on mac, helpful
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# [10:26] * Ms2ger stars some more leaks
# [10:26] <glandium> edmorley: although i'm not too sure, because the patches were supposed to change nothing
# [10:27] * Ms2ger would not mind seeing a backout
# [10:28] * edmorley would not mind seeing Ms2ger backed out :P
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> I would :)
# [10:28] <edmorley> you and your massive mq dumps
# [10:29] <glandium> and my re-validation of the patch queue on try agrees: no significant changes to the objdir
# [10:29] <Ms2ger> What do you have against my massive mq dumps? :)
# [10:29] <glandium> it might just be that our make dependencies are so completely f*cked up
# [10:30] <Ms2ger> s/might be/is/?
# [10:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: not much! If it were anyone else they'd break everything, but I suspect your attention to detail (and actually testing stuff on try) saves you most of the time :-)
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# [10:31] <edmorley> glandium: have you clobbered, or would you like me to?
# [10:31] <edmorley> presume former?
# [10:31] <glandium> edmorley: i did
# [10:31] <edmorley> cool
# [10:31] <Ms2ger> Hey, be nice to dzbarsky, and nrc, and...
# [10:31] <edmorley> lol
# [10:32] <Ms2ger> And, I guess, glandium ;)
# [10:33] <glandium> Ms2ger: i'm just touching things that can break in too any ways, especially when the tree is not clobbered
# [10:33] <glandium> s/any/many/
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Sounds like me and editor :)
# [10:33] <edmorley> Ms2ger: clobber issues are acceptable, given it can be green on try
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# [10:34] <Ms2ger> glandium, yeah, can't blame you, except for working on that horrible mess ;)
# [10:34] <glandium> aha, it /might/ be the bonus patch
# [10:35] <edmorley> Ms2ger: that and I'm really looking forward to seeing the results of the renewed pimp-my-buildsystem efforts, so am willing to be a bit more flexible
# [10:36] <Ms2ger> Oh, me too :)
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# [10:38] <Ms2ger> A crash in PresShell::RenderDocument... Ever seen that before?
# [10:38] <edmorley> yes
# [10:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: bug 747602
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# [10:39] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [10:39] * edmorley carries on doing the we've-almost-got-pymake-on-tinderbox-dance
# [10:39] <Ms2ger> It exited with code 1 in this case, actually
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# [10:39] <Ms2ger> nsGlobalWindow #10243 https://motown-dev.mozillalabs.com/social/sidebar
# [10:40] <Ms2ger> I think I've seen it before, but apparently not blamed to this test
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# [10:42] <Ms2ger> 776554
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# [10:49] <Ms2ger> remote: You can view the pushlog for your changes at the following URL:
# [10:49] <Ms2ger> Neat
# [10:51] <glandium> edmorley: there's a problem on tbpl: ctrl+click on oranges opens the logs in a new tab when adding a comment
# [10:52] <edmorley> glandium: seems to only be with the comment window open and only occasionally
# [10:53] <edmorley> I never open the comment window until I've selected builds which is why I guess I've never seen that before
# [10:53] <glandium> edmorley: it just did it reliably for each ctrl+click i did
# [10:53] <glandium> and yeah, it doesn't without the comment window
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# [10:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fc17369c9a6 - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset 2ef51674316a (bug 774032 bonus) for various Mochitest bustages on a CLOSED TREE
# [10:54] <Ms2ger> browser_webconsole_bug_595934_message_categories.js | Timed out while waiting for: test #6 succesful finish
# [10:54] <Ms2ger> Is that new too?
# [10:54] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah
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# [10:54] <edmorley> Ms2ger: just sifting through now
# [10:54] <Ms2ger> Just on win debug... That's only slightly better than only on win pgo to debug :/
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# [10:56] <Ms2ger> Yep, it's dolske
# [10:57] <Ms2ger> fce1836888b4
# [10:59] <edmorley> bah, just seen his broken try push
# [11:00] <glandium> edmorley: is it possible to cancel a clobber, so that builders that haven't already clobbered, don't?
# [11:00] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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# [11:00] <edmorley> glandium: unfortunately not, though given weekend less of an issue I guess
# [11:00] <Optimizer> who is ncameron ?
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# [11:02] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, nrc, a canvas guy working out of Auckland, IIRC
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# [11:02] <Optimizer> !seen nrc
# [11:02] <firebot> nrc was last seen 28 hours, 49 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying 'edwin ^^^ any ideas?' in #mobile.
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# [11:03] <Optimizer> thanks Ms2ger
# [11:03] <evilpie_> mornin'
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> Morgen
# [11:03] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [11:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d5d1daa2505 - Ed Morley - Backout fce1836888b4 (bug 778608) for failures in browser_webconsole_bug_595934_message_categories.js on a CLOSED TREE
# [11:04] <evilpie_> yeah no problem at all
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# [11:31] <glandium> edmorley: you can reopen
# [11:33] <Ms2ger> "CLOSED until tip is green"
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# [11:48] <glandium> looks like the pre-existing R.java issue got more reliable
# [11:50] <edmorley> glandium: when I merge, I'm just clobbering android xl & os x 10.7 opt riht?
# [11:51] <edmorley> right
# [11:51] <glandium> edmorley: no clobber for my bugs
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# [11:52] <edmorley> glandium: so the two failures on your push are negated after the bonus patch was backed out?
# [11:52] <glandium> edmorley: ah, the osx opt failure is from bug 778259
# [11:53] <glandium> the android one is a pre-existing one
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# [11:53] <edmorley> glandium: so it does need a clobber?
# [11:53] <glandium> edmorley: it might
# [11:53] <glandium> android is a different story
# [11:53] <edmorley> ok lol
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# [11:55] <graememcc> Yay! My "print hg rev URL(s) when you push" hook was enabled.
# [11:55] <glandium> the android one is a race condition that's been there for a while, and that happens depending on phases of the moon
# [11:55] <glandium> it however looks like i made it more reliable
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# [11:57] <edmorley> yeah I know it was pre-existing, I just simply wanted to know which platforms to clobber when I merge to m-c (given that I'm going to have to clobber m-c, birch, profiling and then likely fx-team/services-central when they pull next or at least warn them)
# [11:58] <edmorley> guess we'll find out :-)
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# [14:43] <decoder> any people familiar with indexeddb here?
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# [15:10] <Ms2ger> decoder, a little
# [15:10] <decoder> Ms2ger: I think I got it resolved thanks. it wasnt an indexeddb problem actually but a JS one
# [15:10] <Ms2ger> Good :)
# [15:11] <decoder> i was doing something like for (var n = 0; n < 2; n++) { // Create some function here that uses n internally and store it somewhere }
# [15:11] <decoder> that breaks
# [15:11] <decoder> I always forget how the bindings in JS work
# [15:12] <decoder> i was under the impression that n would have the value at the time the function is created there. but it's actually 2 then
# [15:12] <Ms2ger> Ah, yes
# [15:12] <decoder> I tried doing var num = n in the loop and use num
# [15:12] <decoder> but that also didnt give me the desired results
# [15:13] <decoder> putting the stuff into a function itself and calling it, worked
# [15:13] <decoder> JS.. not even once
# [15:13] <Ms2ger> [0, 1].forEach(function(n) { ... ? :)
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# [15:16] <decoder> Ms2ger: that looks like a good solution too, thanks! :)
# [15:16] <decoder> btw
# [15:16] <decoder> event driven APIs suck for fuzzing
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> roc, ping
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> I can imagine
# [15:17] <Gossfunkel> Newbie q: what exactly is fuzzing?
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzz_testing
# [15:18] <Gossfunkel> Cheers :D I'm here to
# [15:18] <Gossfunkel> Mooch info*
# [15:18] <Ms2ger> roc, you're crashing in FrameLayerBuilder::GetThebesLayerScaleForFrame, I'm backing out
# [15:19] <@roc> ok
# [15:20] <decoder> Gossfunkel: essentially, random testing. randomly exercising some API for example. or randomly creating or mutating input (e.g. images to test an image decoder)
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# [15:21] <db48x> decoder: all of the functions you were creating were closed over the same variable, whose value you were mutating
# [15:21] <Gossfunkel> Ahh- makes sense :)
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# [15:22] <decoder> db48x: yea I realized that later too... but isnt it different if I create a variable inside the for loop (var num = n;) and then use num in the function?
# [15:22] <db48x> no
# [15:22] <db48x> you're just mutating num then
# [15:23] <decoder> okay. I thought num would be recreated since it lives inside the loop
# [15:23] <db48x> nope
# [15:23] <decoder> but yea, JS is complicated sometimes^^
# [15:23] <db48x> the var is actually hoisted to the top of the function
# [15:23] <db48x> it's the same as saying var num; for (...) { num = n; }
# [15:23] <decoder> oh ok.. that explains it then
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# [15:28] <@roc> I like the new hg push messages
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# [15:35] <Ms2ger> I guess for (n) { let num = n; } would work
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# [15:48] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: Is that osx orange on inbound real?
# [15:48] <Ms2ger> Which?
# [15:48] <RyanVM> the timeouts
# [15:48] * Ms2ger loads tbpl
# [15:48] <RyanVM> what's weird is that the m-c push was fine
# [15:49] <RyanVM> but M5 has timed out two pushes in a row on inbound
# [15:49] <Ms2ger> Oh, the identity stuff
# [15:49] <RyanVM> yeah
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# [15:51] <Ms2ger> Not sure how that would be my fault
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# [15:51] <decoder> Ms2ger: do you know why I would be getting the "A mutation operation was attempted on a database that did not allow mutations." error when calling createObjectStore on the db?
# [15:51] <decoder> MDN says "But before you can create any object store or index, you must first call the setVersion() method."
# [15:51] <decoder> but that method is deprecated
# [15:52] <Ms2ger> Then MDN is wrong, there's no such as setVersion anymore :)
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# [15:54] <decoder> Ms2ger: yea I figured so. but should it work to simply call createObjectStore then after opening successfully?
# [15:58] <Ms2ger> Looks like you need to call it from a versionchange transaction callback
# [15:58] <Ms2ger> Whatever that is
# [15:59] <decoder> i dont even have transactions yet^^
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# [16:00] <decoder> i hate specs
# [16:00] <RyanVM> what repo does releng use?
# [16:00] <RyanVM> i.e. bug 739030
# [16:01] <RyanVM> nvm
# [16:01] <RyanVM> *sigh* I love when I ask a question and see the answer to it 2 seconds later
# [16:02] <Ms2ger> decoder, we all do :)
# [16:03] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, I'm going to plead not guilty :)
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# [16:04] <RyanVM> OK, though that's somewhat disconcerting
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# [16:16] <Ms2ger> Just one commit in that push?
# [16:16] * Ms2ger raises an eyebrow
# [16:19] <sid0> hmm
# [16:19] <sid0> why am I not getting prompts for getUserMedia from http://neave.com/webcam/html5/?
# [16:20] <sid0> firefox nightly on windows
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# [16:25] <sid0> oh, it's behind a pref
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# [16:36] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: hrm, 3 pushes in a row now...
# [16:37] <Ms2ger> Not the M2, though...
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# [16:39] <RyanVM> i mean, I guess it's possible that something from the push is interacting badly with something that's only on inbound right now?
# [16:40] <Ms2ger> I don't have the faintest idea what would :/
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# [16:44] <RyanVM> the screenshot's not showing anything odd afaict
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> Er
# [16:44] <Ms2ger> Did we all retrigger that M5? :)
# [16:46] <Ms2ger> Oh no, they're all yours
# [16:47] <RyanVM> yeah, I retrigged on inbound and m-c
# [16:49] <RyanVM> awesome, the green retrigger on your inbound push was on the same machine as the orange run even
# [16:49] <RyanVM> at least M5 runs fast
# [16:50] <RyanVM> and all green on m-c
# [16:51] <sid0> oh wow, my try push was 1 orange and 1 red away from all green
# [16:52] <sid0> how soon can we merge inbound to central? there are some important fixes I'm waiting for there
# [16:53] <RyanVM> sid0
# [16:53] <RyanVM> gah
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# [16:53] <RyanVM> I'll probably do a merge in the next 10-15 minutes
# [16:53] <sid0> excellent, thanks!
# [16:53] <RyanVM> what are you waiting on?
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# [16:53] <sid0> the make-makefile conversion to python
# [16:54] <sid0> it's an important step to enabling pymake by default
# [16:54] <sid0> we're this close
# [16:54] <sid0> 5 patches away
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# [17:01] <RyanVM> sid0: out of curiosity, have you attempted a pgo build w/ pymake recently?
# [17:01] <RyanVM> because last time I tried it, it was broken
# [17:01] <RyanVM> xpidl pyc issues on the second pass
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# [17:03] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: the push prior to yours is all green on the retriggers. Your push's retriggers are looking like they're going to timeout
# [17:03] <RyanVM> but all green on m-c
# [17:03] <Ms2ger> Bah
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# [17:03] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I'm worried about merging inbound over to m-c
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# [17:05] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: especially because the inbound push prior to yours is the last PGO-green run :P
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# [17:08] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I'm sorry to say it, but it looks like I'm going to have to back you out...
# [17:08] <sid0> RyanVM: Hmm, no, not really
# [17:08] <sid0> I don't even know how to do a PGO build
# [17:08] <sid0> heh
# [17:09] <RyanVM> sid0: you may want to look into it, since it's kind of important if it becomes enabled by default :P
# [17:09] <RyanVM> btw, it's pretty easy
# [17:09] <sid0> well, I was thinking we can disable pymake for PGO builds in the beginning
# [17:09] <RyanVM> mk_add_options MOZ_PGO=1
# [17:09] <RyanVM> mk_add_options PROFILE_GEN_SCRIPT='$(PYTHON) $(MOZ_OBJDIR)/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py'
# [17:10] <sid0> I went through all the steps in the B column for windows opt, btw
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# [17:10] <RyanVM> the issue is on the second pass of the PGO build, so you wouldn't see it on a regular opt build
# [17:10] <sid0> how do you do the second pass?
# [17:10] <sid0> is it automatic?
# [17:10] <RyanVM> yes
# [17:11] <RyanVM> add the above lines to .mozconfig for a pgo build
# [17:11] <sid0> hm, what are PGO builds called on tbpl?
# [17:11] <RyanVM> win pgo
# [17:11] <RyanVM> you can't trigger pgo builds on try right now, though
# [17:11] <RyanVM> you have to manually add those lines with your push
# [17:12] <RyanVM> sid0: well, for the in-tree mozconfigs, you just need to add mk_add_options MOZ_PGO=1
# [17:13] <sid0> I have a loaner build machine I've been working on
# [17:13] <sid0> one of the win64 ones
# [17:13] <sid0> let me try it on that
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# [17:21] <sid0> RyanVM: btw, I love how quickly pymake builds happen :)
# [17:21] <RyanVM> yeah, I've not enjoyed going back to gmake for my personal builds!
# [17:22] <sid0> we should be able to halve win build times at the least
# [17:22] <sid0> *at the least*
# [17:23] <sid0> ok, time to write a blog post about how much python sucks
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# [17:30] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: edmorley|away: I just pushed a backout to try
# [17:30] <RyanVM> on top of inbound
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# [17:31] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: edmorley|away: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a68dc7bcfa7c
# [17:32] <kaiecar> can you recommend a good cafe with wifi anywhere around mountain view or surround? I want to work but dont want to sit in my hotel
# [17:33] <kaiecar> motel
# [17:33] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: If the try push is green, I'm going to push the backout to m-c and merge it back to inbound
# [17:33] <RyanVM> so I can do an inbound merge
# [17:34] <WG9s> but then why is this not orange on mozilla-central?
# [17:34] <WG9s> I am kind of starting to think this need a clobber.
# [17:35] <Ms2ger> Because it's not my push, but someone needs a scapegoat?
# [17:35] <RyanVM> i like torches and pitchforks
# [17:35] <RyanVM> i have some stuff to push to inbound
# [17:36] <RyanVM> i'll clobber and push it
# [17:36] <WG9s> becauxe a clobber would either fix it or make it fail more universally so that we understand shat is really going on.
# [17:36] <RyanVM> and we can see what happens
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# [17:38] <edmorley|away> Ms2ger: there is a lot of inbound that isn't on m-c (79 changesets), so one would presume your patches are just not playing nicely with whatever hasn't yet been merged
# [17:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ebe042fd624 - Tal Aloni - Bug 778413 - Fix table cell automatic width calculation when using box-sizing:border-box. r=dbaron
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# [17:38] <edmorley|away> one of the pitfalls of landing on m-c...
# [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02cbcf0159fa - Etienne Segonzac - Bug 779793 - Properly send a NO_PROVIDER error when there is no options to handle a WebActivity. r=vingtetun
# [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e7501faef12 - Etienne Segonzac - Bug 775638 - Set dom.send_after_paint_to_content to true in the gaia profile to ease compatibility when testing in nightly. r=vingtetun
# [17:38] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: worth closing inbound for now?
# [17:38] <RyanVM> was about to, yes
# [17:39] <RyanVM> i clobbered before my push
# [17:39] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: unrelated note: I've backported this lot to branches https://bugzil.la/770542,688897,649564,750241,773653,722956 and disabled these on trunk https://bugzil.la/661099,733848,760770,620598,661076,687972
# [17:39] <RyanVM> i saw!
# [17:39] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: so really hoping orangefactor going to be pretty good next week
# [17:40] <edmorley|away> + less annoying to star & mean easier to glance at the tree and see if there is real bustage :-)
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# [17:42] <RyanVM> :woowoo:
# [17:45] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: If things go green, I'll be sure to clobber m-c before merging :P
# [17:46] <RyanVM> apparently my backout patch is busted anyway, so fingers crossed...
# [17:46] <edmorley|away> there are a few needs-clobber from earlier too (os x 10.7 opt and android xul iirc)
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# [18:07] <sid0> RyanVM: is it normal for the xul.dll generation to take a long time on pgo builds?
# [18:07] <RyanVM> yes
# [18:07] <sid0> oh, it just got done
# [18:07] <RyanVM> sid0: you're still on the first pass I presume?
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# [18:07] <sid0> well, the xul.dll took 7 minutes or so
# [18:07] <sid0> does that tell you anything?
# [18:07] <RyanVM> sid0: no
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# [18:08] <RyanVM> if it gets to linking xul.dll on the second pass, that'll be saying something
# [18:08] <RyanVM> it'll probably die around linking js, which is early thankfully
# [18:08] <sid0> so yeah, I have no idea what pass I'm in
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# [18:10] <RyanVM> there's only two
# [18:10] <RyanVM> did the browser window pop up yet?
# [18:11] <sid0> ok, it just died
# [18:11] <RyanVM> pyc issues?
# [18:11] <sid0> in packager.mk
# [18:11] <RyanVM> ah crap
# [18:11] <RyanVM> do you have the installer disabled?
# [18:12] <RyanVM> basic gist of a pgo build:
# [18:12] <sid0> I'm using the in-tree mozconfig with the MOZ_PGO line added
# [18:12] <RyanVM> it does a full build with instrumentation, packages the browser, runs the browser through a suite of pages (some css stuff and sunspider), and then re-links everything based on the profiling information
# [18:12] <sid0> note that this is on one of the build machines
# [18:13] <RyanVM> sid0: that doesn't sound good, anyway :P
# [18:14] <RyanVM> but that may be a different issue than the one I've hit
# [18:15] <sid0> RyanVM: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1737408
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# [18:19] <RyanVM> looks fine
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# [18:20] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: I need to leave for ~2 hours in 20 minutes. Can you re-open the tree if things go green? I'll still do the inbound merge when I return unless sid0 badgers you into doing it sooner :P
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# [18:21] <RyanVM> actually, the tests just started
# [18:23] <Optimizer> can I find + and - icon for zoom in zoom out within firefox (that matches with devtools theme)
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# [18:25] <RyanVM> Optimizer: you mean the zoom controls when you right click on the toolbar and choose customize?
# [18:25] <Optimizer> yes
# [18:25] <Optimizer> for zoom controls only
# [18:26] <Optimizer> but those 2 are black, right ?
# [18:26] <Optimizer> I needed something to suite with devtools icons
# [18:26] <RyanVM> i guess
# [18:29] <RyanVM> edmorley|away: WG9s: Ms2ger: doesn't look like a clobber helped...
# [18:30] <Ms2ger> I don't see any that finished on your push
# [18:31] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: exactly. It's a 5 minute test
# [18:32] <WG9s> RyanVM, Ms2ger well did we do a clobbber on all builds?
# [18:32] <RyanVM> yes....
# [18:32] <RyanVM> i clobbered before I pushed
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# [18:32] <WG9s> I was really intgerested to see if a clobber either fixed the issaue onthe one failing platform or amde it fail on other platforms.
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# [18:32] <WG9s> so really was trying to suggest an across the board clobber.
# [18:33] <WG9s> is that what was done?
# [18:33] <RyanVM> yes, I clobbered all of inbound
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# [18:34] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: i may have to take it back. the two that finished are green
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# [18:35] <RyanVM> hwoever, one that started 19 minutes ago isn't finished yet...
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> All good, then
# [18:35] <WG9s> OK cause the whole failing only on os 64-bit opt buids and not on OSX 64-bitdebug builds, or on any other platform does not make a great deal of sense.
# [18:35] <RyanVM> and another from 15
# [18:35] <RyanVM> and another from 14
# [18:35] <RyanVM> and a few more from 14 and 13
# [18:36] <RyanVM> the two green finished in 6 minutes
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# [18:36] <WG9s> I was hoping aclbber would either clear the issue on this platform, or cause it to show up on others.
# [18:37] <RyanVM> i've gtg now
# [18:37] <RyanVM> i'll be back a couple hours
# [18:37] <WG9s> you know trying to get it to a state that made more sense.
# [18:39] <RyanVM> i'm going to clobber m-c and trigger another round of dep builds there quick
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# [18:40] <WG9s> OK
# [18:41] <WG9s> sounds like another good idea.
# [18:45] <WG9s> but oddly i fear it is still going to come down to al builds/tests work fine except for osx 64-bit/m5 adn if that is the result of what we find i have no idea how that makes any sense.
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# [18:49] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: sorry was at the shop (buying food on an empty stomach, big mistake lol)
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# [18:51] <edmorley|away> RyanVM: i can keep an eye
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# [18:55] <glandium> it looks like a focus problem. has there been focus changes recently?
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# [18:56] <WeirdAl> AryehGregor, NeilAway: I'll write up a patch for bug 779910 and submit it.
# [18:59] <NeilAway> sid0: pymake by default everywhere, you mean, or just on Windows?
# [19:00] <NeilAway> sid0++
# [19:00] <NeilAway> (I haven't even read the blog post yet, I just like the description)
# [19:01] <WeirdAl> NeilAway: unless you care to beat me to it :)
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# [19:02] <NeilAway> WeirdAl: be my guest ;-)
# [19:02] <WeirdAl> ok, it's gonna be a few hours
# [19:02] <glandium> NeilAway: on windows. on others, it's likely slower than gnu make
# [19:02] <WeirdAl> even though it's just one line, I want to see the bustage for myself
# [19:02] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, it isn't even written yet, is it?
# [19:03] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: what isn't?
# [19:03] <Ms2ger> The blog post
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# [19:03] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, fair enough
# [19:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: I hadn't even thought to check ;-)
# [19:04] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [19:06] <Ms2ger> Aw man, Cave Story exists for Linux?
# [19:06] <Ms2ger> How did I not know that?
# [19:08] * edmorley|away is just going to revert inbound to 3d5d1daa2505
# [19:08] <NeilAway> eek, maybe I shouldn't have commented on bug 115107
# [19:08] <NeilAway> the CC list is so big it doesn't even fit on my 1280x1024 screen
# [19:09] <edmorley|away> (given this could be anything from bad merge to who knows what; and the backout ryan tried was busted, so presumably not a clean backout)
# [19:09] <WeirdAl> :) been over three months since I did a trunk build
# [19:09] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, clearly you never commented on bug 78414
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# [19:10] <WeirdAl> on this machine anyway
# [19:11] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: indeed
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# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c801b99d726f - Ed Morley - Revert inbound to 3d5d1daa2505 to stop OS X M5 failures (backout not clean/could have been a bad merge) on a CLOSED TREE
# [19:18] <edmorley|away> Ms2ger: please may you mark the bugs for your changesets with https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c801b99d726f
# [19:19] <edmorley|away> Ms2ger: I feel bad that there was so much backed out - but another time maybe split up into smaller batches and land a few times a week rather than in one go? :-)
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# [19:22] <mccr8> edmorley|away: Ms2ger landed his patches on inbound initially, so they aren't really backed out. ;)
# [19:22] <mccr8> err on m-c, not inbound
# [19:23] <edmorley|away> ha true
# [19:23] <edmorley|away> :-)
# [19:24] <edmorley|away> whoops, must have pressed the retrigger dep builds not pgo on inbound tip
# [19:24] <edmorley|away> oh wel
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# [19:35] <sid0> interesting
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# [19:35] <sid0> it's erroring out at that build step because xpcshell depends on pgort100.dll
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# [19:41] <edmorley|away> graememcc: yeah I couldn't remember what format I was supposed to be using for reverts like that (was just going to adjust manually in m-cMerge or else give it the cset before the last one backed out
# [19:41] <GPHemsley> Firebug really needs to knock it off with these auto-loading firstrun pages after a restartless update
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# [19:45] <graememcc> edmorley|away: I'd anticipated "Revert to" but not "Revert <treename> to". Just thought I'd save the next merger some pain!
# [19:45] <edmorley|away> graememcc: thank you :-)
# [19:45] <edmorley|away> graememcc++
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# [19:47] <glandium> edmorley|away: i don't know how you plan to merge m-c after that backout, but you'll have to be extra-careful, because hg is likely to consider m-c still being merged
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# [19:48] <edmorley|away> glandium: how come? Ms2ger's csets have been merged in already?
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# [19:48] <edmorley|away> so other than the blocklist, nothing left to merge surely?
# [19:48] <glandium> edmorley|away: "Revert inbound to 3d5d1daa2505"
# [19:49] <glandium> i'd expect that to mean that ms2ger's csets are not on inbound any more
# [19:49] <edmorley|away> yeah but it's only a diff the other way
# [19:49] <glandium> if you merge m-c again, hg may consider they *are* on inbound
# [19:49] <edmorley|away> and a diff applied to the already merged heads
# [19:50] <edmorley|away> revert only affects the working directory, it doesn't look like a merge or like anything other than yet just another landing as far as hg is concerned
# [19:51] <edmorley|away> I could be missing something obvious to be fair :_)
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# [19:53] <glandium> edmorley|away: anyways, just be careful on next merge
# [19:53] <edmorley|away> will do :-)
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# [19:57] <Optimizer> can someone point me to the file where long press on back button opens popup is defined ?
# [19:58] <bjacob> Optimizer: i would ask on the fx-team channel
# [19:58] <Optimizer> oh
# [19:58] <Optimizer> you also need to know ?
# [19:59] * Optimizer just kidding
# [19:59] <bjacob> Optimizer: :)
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# [19:59] <Optimizer> thanks :)
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# [20:01] <edmorley|away> Optimizer: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#253
# [20:01] <Optimizer> oh its not an xul attribute
# [20:02] <Optimizer> :|
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# [20:02] <Optimizer> thanks edmorley|away
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# [20:02] <edmorley|away> np
# [20:03] <Optimizer> i thought it would be a property like the search bar has a property to dispatch event every some time
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# [20:05] <Optimizer> is there a property for a button so that it sends the command fired event repeatedly on click hold ?
# [20:05] <WeirdAl> Any xpidl.py experts around? I just had an idea, about using xpidl.py to generate JSON-stringified interface info, so that it's readable by a JSM (solving the scriptable interface info problem)
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# [20:06] <edmorley|away> sid0: ^
# [20:06] <glandium> edmorley|away: m5 is green :)
# [20:06] <edmorley|away> :-)
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# [20:08] <sid0> edmorley: I don't know anything about xpidl
# [20:08] <edmorley> sid0: oh, sorry I must be misremembering
# [20:08] <sid0> NeilAway: Windows
# [20:09] <sid0> NeilAway: Mac/Linux issues will be dealt with in their own time :)
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# [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a48f2d0e2a0 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 752764 - Nuke wrapped reflector during transplant. r=bholley
# [20:21] <edmorley> added 83 changesets with 2950 changes to 1570 files (+1 heads)
# [20:21] <edmorley> (run 'hg heads' to see heads, 'hg merge' to merge)
# [20:21] <edmorley> 1565 files updated, 0 files merged, 140 files removed, 0 files unresolved
# [20:21] <edmorley> \o/
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# [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef314df10881 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
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# [20:29] <glandium> edmorley: and what i was saying seems to have happened...
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# [20:29] <glandium> edmorley: if I look at the tree in changeset ef314df10881, and look for one of the changes from ms2ger, say, 18f2ed71b591, well, it's not there
# [20:30] <edmorley> glandium: yes, I intentionally backed him out
# [20:30] <glandium> try to find "MaybeCreateDoc" in http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/ef314df10881/dom/base/nsPIDOMWindow.h
# [20:30] <edmorley> I don't see what's wrong
# [20:31] <glandium> oh, so he's also backed out from m-c now
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# [20:31] <edmorley> yes
# [20:32] <edmorley> I used hg revert to get us back to the state before he landed, before he merged and before the couple of checkins just before we closed the tree
# [20:33] <glandium> oooookay
# [20:33] <edmorley> ultimately what was on inbound had priority, if his and some as yet to be determined inbound cset doesn't play nicely, well then that's the risk of landing on m-c
# [20:35] <glandium> i'm almost ready to reland the bonus patch from bug 774032
# [20:35] <glandium> (fixed)
# [20:35] <glandium> just waiting for a windows result
# [20:35] <edmorley> sweet :-)
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# [20:40] <edmorley> Ms2ger: bugs marked
# [20:40] <glandium> man, configure is taking forever
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# [20:41] <WeirdAl> glandium: pff, I usually see my CPU melt steel on DOMClassInfo
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# [20:42] <glandium> and here we go
# [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/162130598df0 - Mike Hommey - Bug 774032 bonus - Use @DEPTH@ and @relativesrcdir@ in Makefile.in. r=ted
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# [20:44] <bjacob> WeirdAl: that's why heatsinks are not made of steel
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# [20:44] <mccr8> obligatory: http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/28145053527/https-bugzilla-mozilla-org-page-cgi-id-splinter-h
# [20:44] <glandium> and the awesome thing is that it even though it modifies 1282 makefiles, it will mostly be a noop build
# [20:45] <WeirdAl> :)
# [20:45] <mccr8> bugzilla should have a spot for linking to associated memes.
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# [20:46] <glandium> mccr8: it's kind of not very nice to use a splinter review url for a meme, though... because they require to be logged on bugzilla
# [20:46] <mccr8> hah that's a good point.
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# [20:47] <mccr8> though I expect most people who look at mozillamemes have bugzilla accounts anyways.
# [20:47] <glandium> looks like bjacob's push was coalesced
# [20:47] <glandium> mccr8: i don't always look mozillamemes with a browser that is logged on bugzilla
# [20:48] <glandium> as a matter of fact, that's how i figured splinter review requires to be logged in
# [20:48] <mccr8> yeah I've hit that a few times (not from the memes)
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# [20:49] <glandium> bjacob: with both pushes coalesced, it means if something breaks due to my push, you take the blame ;)
# [20:49] <glandium> anyways, i'm pretty confident this won't break, this time
# [20:50] <glandium> i'm so confident that i'm going afk
# [20:52] <bjacob> glandium: the bigger patch takes the blame, ok?
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# [20:54] <WeirdAl> not again...
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# [20:54] <WeirdAl> impossible to tell whether it's a real CPU churn, or if it's actually doing something
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# [20:58] <LenoirINT> I am getting this error when I try to build. Not sure what it means. http://mibpaste.com/YW5Ohn
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# [21:00] <@khuey> remove the -s and maybe it'll tell you
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# [21:02] <LenoirINT> khuey was that for me or someone else?
# [21:02] <@khuey> that was for you
# [21:02] <LenoirINT> Remove the s from where?
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> LenoirINT, $ pymake -sj4 -f client.mk --> $ pymake -j4 -f client.mk
# [21:03] <Kailas> Hi, Does anyone knows how to get origin of URI that generated request in http-on-examine-response?
# [21:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f0244595d42 - Jonathan Kew - bug 721750 - reftests for text-shadow in ::-moz-selection. r=dbaron
# [21:03] <@khuey> also do you have a -s flag in your .mozconfig?
# [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4084a5a23a5 - Jonathan Kew - bug 721750 - support text-shadow property on ::-moz-selection. r=dbaron
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# [21:04] <LenoirINT> Ms2ger it says no make file found.
# [21:05] <LenoirINT> khuey yes I do.
# [21:05] <@khuey> yeah you should remove that too
# [21:06] <@khuey> -s is suppressing hte error message ,apparentyl
# [21:06] <@khuey> Kailas: yes
# [21:06] <@khuey> Kailas: the object you get with http-on-examine-response is the channel
# [21:06] <@khuey> Kailas: so just QI to nsIChannel and grab it's URI
# [21:06] <Kailas> khuey: var httpChannel = aSubject.QueryInterface(Ci.nsIHttpChannel);
# [21:06] <WeirdAl> finally
# [21:07] <WeirdAl> thirteen minutes on one file :(
# [21:07] <@khuey> Kailas: right
# [21:07] <Kailas> khuey: I used above command to get httpChannel
# [21:07] <RyanVM> my, what a good time I missed
# [21:07] <@khuey> Kailas: and then grab httpChannel.URI, and do whatever you want with that?
# [21:07] <Kailas> khuey: but how can get URI that generated request
# [21:08] <@khuey> oh, that generated the request
# [21:08] <Kailas> khuey: that gives URI for resource, but not the URI of Origin
# [21:08] <@khuey> right
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# [21:09] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I'm planning to push your patches to Try in blocks on top of inbound. I'll land said blocks as they go green
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# [21:10] <LenoirINT> khuey I removed that from my .mozconfig and I am still getting the same error.
# [21:10] <edmorley> RyanVM: thank you :-)
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# [21:11] <RyanVM> edmorley: thanks for taking care of things
# [21:11] <@khuey> Kailas: something like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Code_snippets/Tabbed_browser#Getting_the_browser_that_fires_the_http-on-modify-request_notification may work
# [21:11] <@khuey> but that might be out of date, I'm not sure
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# [21:11] <Kailas> khuey: Thanks! I will try it out.
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# [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91e49679104c - Etienne Segonzac - Bug 779793 - Properly send a NO_PROVIDER error when there is no options to handle a WebActivity. r=vingtetun
# [21:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d802da5c4ed2 - Tal Aloni - Bug 778413 - Fix table cell automatic width calculation when using box-sizing:border-box. r=dbaron
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# [21:18] <Kailas> khuey: that codes gives - ReferenceError: gBrowser is not defined
# [21:19] <@khuey> Kailas: ah, this in a component?
# [21:19] <@khuey> or a jsm or something?
# [21:19] <@khuey> Kailas: regardless, it shouldn't matter, once you have the document you can get the URI from that
# [21:20] <@khuey> you don't need the actual <browser>
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# [21:21] <Kailas> khuey: thanks!
# [21:22] <Optimizer> does "td" element has "value" attribute ? so that I can do document.createElement("td").setAttribute("value", "cell content"); ?
# [21:23] <Mook> Optimizer: they have a .textContent... or you can poke its children
# [21:24] <Optimizer> td's children ?
# [21:24] <Optimizer> what children can a cell have ? daughter cells ? :P
# [21:24] <Mook> while (td.firstChild) td.removeChild(td.firstChild); td.appendChild(document.createTextNode("pants"));
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# [21:25] <Optimizer> so table's cells can also have any kind of html tags ?
# [21:25] <Optimizer> div or anything
# [21:26] <Kailas> khuey: its nsIDOMWindow interface. Do u know How to get URI from it?
# [21:26] <Mook> sure, within the limits of what the engine can cope with (what it does with a <body> may be nonsensical, but it will probably accept it)
# [21:26] <Optimizer> :D
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# [21:26] <Optimizer> thanks Mook
# [21:27] <RyanVM> edmorley: Ms2ger: FWIW, I've already had to un-bitrot 2 of the 5 patches I've applied. I'm wondering if it was indeed a bad merge.
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# [21:27] <edmorley> RyanVM: ah
# [21:28] <@khuey> Kailas: .location?
# [21:28] <edmorley> RyanVM: revert was a bit drastic, but I thought it would at least rule out the bad merge possibility (and also seeing as your test backout had burnt on try) and get us fixed quicker in the long run
# [21:28] <RyanVM> agreed 100%
# [21:29] <edmorley> RyanVM: thank you for relanding bits now
# [21:29] <RyanVM> and honestly, it doesn't take long to hg export changesets to the patch directory and re-apply
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# [21:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7abce15d1cb3 - Ed Morley - Bug 780373 - scrollbars-01.svg & scrollbars-02.svg are perma-orange on Android. r=mfinkle
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# [21:44] <@khuey> ugh
# [21:44] <@khuey> nsGlobalWindow::SetNewDocument is such a terrible place
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# [21:48] <RyanVM> edmorley: err https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=14132679&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [21:51] <edmorley> RyanVM: funky!
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# [21:58] <RyanVM> edmorley: I'm going to go ahead and call that python randomness
# [21:59] <edmorley> I'll file if needs be?
# [21:59] <edmorley> bugs are cheap :-)
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# [21:59] <RyanVM> i guess
# [21:59] <Optimizer> my cells in the table are not vertically aligning :(
# [22:00] <Optimizer> Mook:
# [22:00] <Optimizer> ^
# [22:00] <Optimizer> I am dynamically adding the rows and cells
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# [22:20] * edmorley has been going through the recent top unfixed (/not-since-disabled) oranges and is coming across the same components/modules again and again :-/
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# [22:23] <jlebar> ../config/autoconf.mk:668: ../src/config/baseconfig.mk: No such file or directory
# [22:23] <jlebar> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780414, in case anyone else hits this.
# [22:23] <edmorley> jlebar: glandium should be able to help
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# [22:24] <RyanVM> edmorley: No comment other than to say that I wish said module owners felt more of a need to see their tests run reliably
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# [22:26] <edmorley> RyanVM: agreed
# [22:26] <Optimizer> do we have to do something special to vertically align the cells in a column in a table
# [22:26] <Optimizer> my first cell of each row is of diff width
# [22:26] <RyanVM> it's probably been a couple years now since the last major effort was made to reduce the amount of random orange
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# [22:26] <Optimizer> and the second cell just comes after it, without any spacing, so basically its not in a vertical line
# [22:26] <RyanVM> I still remember one of roc's blog posts about using record and replay to track one down that only occurred once every 500 runs or so
# [22:26] <RyanVM> but it was a legitimate bug in the code
# [22:27] <edmorley> RyanVM: a couple of individuals are going to no doubt feel I'm singling out every test they have written; but I'm just going by orangefactor top oranges :-(
# [22:27] <RyanVM> can you CC me to whatever bug you're filing on this?
# [22:27] * jlebar whistles innocently
# [22:27] <RyanVM> indexeddb has to be close to the top
# [22:28] <edmorley> RyanVM: I'm replying to existing filed oranges, I don't wish to name names, my bugzilla activity is within your reach, were you curious
# [22:28] <edmorley> :-)
# [22:28] <jlebar> Actually, it looks like my tests are no longer in the top.
# [22:28] <jlebar> Yay.
# [22:28] <RyanVM> mediastream would have been another guess had you not just disabled the worst offenders
# [22:30] <RyanVM> btw, edmorley, I see no harm in publicly shaming people/module owners for not acting on randomorange bugs for months
# [22:31] <derf> RyanVM: Why should reducing random orange be a major effort, instead of a continuous effort?
# [22:31] <@khuey> edmorley: all in DOM? :-P
# [22:31] <RyanVM> derf: continuous implies that it's being done...
# [22:31] <derf> Yes.
# [22:31] <derf> That is what I was trying to imply.
# [22:31] <RyanVM> derf: try starring the trees for a few days and tell me how much continuous effort is being made
# [22:32] <derf> No, I agree with you it is not currently being done.
# [22:32] <RyanVM> I agree 100% that it shoudl be continuous
# [22:32] <Optimizer> anyone ?
# [22:32] <RyanVM> derf: but that doesn't seem to be how it ends up playing out
# [22:33] * RyanVM says that as he stars Bug 619623
# [22:34] <RyanVM> where the last non-tbpl commen was in december of last year
# [22:34] <RyanVM> with a "fix" being checked in
# [22:34] <RyanVM> 540 stars later...
# [22:35] <edmorley> khuey: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/?display=OrangeFactor&includefiltertype=quicksearch&includefilterdetailsquicksearch=&includefilterdetailsexcludeResolved=true&includefilterdetailsnumbugs=15&includefilterdetailsresolvedIds=&excludefiltertype=ids&excludefilterdetailsbugids=778179,661099,759707,733848&excludefilterdetailsresolvedIds=778179,661099,759707,733848&tree=trunk&startday=2012-07-31&endday=2012-08-04
# [22:36] <@khuey> edmorley: ah, <video>
# [22:37] <@khuey> I should have known
# [22:38] * edmorley will just keep on disabling video tests on linux until people care enough to spend the time to look at the failures
# [22:38] <edmorley> s/video/video+audio/
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# [22:39] <edmorley> moaning about linux media failures... it's like I've turned into philor already :-)
# [22:40] <edmorley> khuey: thank you for taking a look at bug 774770
# [22:40] <edmorley> <3
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# [22:40] <@khuey> edmorley: yeah, I wish I had more time to do this stuff
# [22:41] * @khuey should probably try to catch 689328 too
# [22:41] * edmorley thinks it's about time to file the 'figure out how to clone our devs' bug
# [22:42] <KWierso|Home> | git clone people://mozilla.org/khuey
# [22:42] <capella> hmmm ... latest pull [Error 193] %1 is not a valid Win32 application
# [22:42] <KWierso|Home> |
# [22:42] <capella> clobber time ....?
# [22:43] <edmorley> it means your clone of khuey failed :-(
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# [22:47] <capella> oic - could be Bug 780414 - Build failing with
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# [22:47] <RyanVM> pretty sure I didn't touch the mouse or keyboard during the test, either
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# [23:14] <edmorley> RyanVM: are you sure? :p
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# [23:15] <edmorley> it very clearly says you did...
# [23:15] <RyanVM> actually, I probably was touching my mouse and keyboard while that test was running
# [23:15] <edmorley> see! :-)
# [23:19] <RyanVM> on the bright side, I should have Ms2ger relanded in the next half hour or so
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# [23:33] <edmorley> RyanVM: cool :-)
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# [23:35] <capella> dang ... still getting [Error 193] %1 is not a valid Win32 application
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# [23:54] <@khuey> test_xhr_progressevents.html doesn't always run the same number of tests :-P
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# [23:57] <@khuey> I guess that's not too surprising
# [23:58] <@khuey> since the number of progress events can vary
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